#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-01-21

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[2:43] <seitensei> Why is it that, when I actually need to solder something, I can't find the soldering iron
[2:44] <ParkerR> Heh
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[2:56] <DMackey> The iron is always supposed to be on the work bench.... like mine :)
[2:59] <seitensei> It's always there when I don't need to use it >_<
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[3:07] <snowcatman> DS3231 RTC Real Time Clock Module for my pi b+ fallowed instructions on the amazon link. i think those instruction helped me install the hard ware but did not help with the time an boot?
[3:09] <seitensei> snowcatman: there's a nice walkthrough in the raspbian section
[3:09] <seitensei> lemme grab it
[3:10] * nils_2 (~nils_2@unaffiliated/nils-2/x-2480262) Quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
[3:10] <seitensei> snowcatman: http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=85683&sid=cd362195786f1b5c094602b00881fa27 check 4th post
[3:10] <snowcatman> ok` thank you... :-)
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[3:33] <ozzzy> hmmm... X ain't forwarding
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[3:36] <seitensei> Anyone know of any enclosures for the Pi (b+) that include space for a breadboard INSIDE of the enclosure?
[3:38] <Triffid_Hunter> 3d printer time ;)
[3:38] <ozzzy> get a box from Pactec or Hammond and make one
[3:39] <seitensei> Triffid_Hunter: that's always the possibility
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[8:48] <Jusii> what's the general opinion about kernel 3.18 on pi, is it production stable?
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[11:32] <niston> seitensei: I'm designing one
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[12:08] <shiftplusone> Jusii, we think so but are cautiously rolling it out in stages and seeing if people have any major issues with it (other than not reading the documentation).
[12:08] <pksato> http://mouse-box.com/
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[12:08] <shiftplusone> Jusii, if I were you, I'd wait a little, but the next release of NOOBS and Raspbian will use 3.18 as standard
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[12:57] <Jusii> shiftplusone: thanks, we'll stay with 3.12 for this release then.
[12:58] <Jusii> overlayfs is what I've been waiting for and thats in from 3.18 -> I think
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[12:59] <ShorTie> OverlayFS is a filesystem service for Linux which implements a union mount for other file systems. It was introduced in kernel 3.18.
[13:00] * ShorTie was wondering what it was
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[13:05] <Jusii> just spent couple days debugging and the reason was feature (or bug) in AUFS. Time to switch
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[13:12] <zamba> how do i check if my pi has a fpu?
[13:13] <zamba> floating point unit, that is
[13:13] <shiftplusone> they all do O_o
[13:13] <zamba> oh?
[13:14] <pksato> if have a black retangle on center, have one. :)
[13:14] <zamba> shiftplusone: and it's supported in rasbian?
[13:14] <shiftplusone> yes
[13:14] <xxValiumxx> lol
[13:14] <shiftplusone> (but not in debian armel, which nobody uses nowadays)
[13:14] <zamba> "It does have hardware floating point support. As far as I'm aware this isn't available in the default Debian distro provided for the RPi (yet)."
[13:14] <zamba> ah, ok
[13:15] <zamba> xxValiumxx: what's so funny?
[13:15] <shiftplusone> zamba, where's that quote from and what's the date on that?
[13:15] <zamba> http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/545/does-the-raspberry-pi-have-hardware-floating-point-support
[13:15] <xxValiumxx> <pksato> if have a black retangle on center, have one. :)
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[13:15] <zamba> so that means that i should be able to realtime mp3 encoding on it?
[13:15] <shiftplusone> so... almost 3 years ago.
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[13:16] <pksato> on B+ is not on center.
[13:16] <shiftplusone> I haven't done mp3 encoding on it, but I would be surprised if it was worse than realtime.
[13:16] <xxValiumxx> pksato close enough :P
[13:16] <zamba> shiftplusone: someone has written that you need to use an encoder like shine on it :)
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[13:18] <xxValiumxx> http://nthmost.com/2013/01/using-raspberry-pi-as-streaming-radio-source/
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[13:20] <zamba> how do i disable the gpu?
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[13:20] <shiftplusone> you don't\
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[13:22] <xxValiumxx> zamba if you're talking about the line in that artice where she talks about deactivating the GUI, thats simple
[13:23] <zamba> xxValiumxx: oh?
[13:23] <xxValiumxx> don't ever type 'startx'
[13:23] <zamba> hehe
[13:23] <zamba> i do't
[13:23] <zamba> don't
[13:23] <xxValiumxx> there you go then
[13:23] <ShorTie> gui != gpu
[13:23] <xxValiumxx> of course, that means you're doing everyhting in commandline, but that shouldn't be an issue, frankly.
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[13:25] <ShorTie> doesn't the pi use the gpu to boot, so diabling it means like no bootie
[13:25] <zamba> xxValiumxx: that's perfect
[13:25] <zamba> xxValiumxx: that's the way i work anyway
[13:25] <zamba> nah.. mp3 encoding doesn't work
[13:25] <zamba> at least not with liquidsoap
[13:25] <zamba> 2015/01/21 13:25:49 [clock.wallclock_main:2] We must catchup 17.95 seconds!
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[13:26] <zamba> that's generally not a good sign
[13:26] <zamba> and you can hear it on the stream as well
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[13:28] * ShorTie hands zamba the time machine
[13:29] <pksato> In theory, GPU can be used to encode mp3 (or other codec). Or at least help on FTs.
[13:29] <zamba> ShorTie: hm?
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[13:29] <ShorTie> We must catchup 17.95 seconds!
[13:29] <zamba> ShorTie: hehe
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[13:45] <zlimvos> a tutorial for installing squeezelite suggests to remove wolfram-engine from the rpi. any opinions? (i am not plannin gto use wolfram anyway)
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[13:46] <ShorTie> it's ok to remove it
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[14:22] <zlimvos> so another one (thanks ShorTie ) is the command "sudo update-rc.d shairport remove" enough to remove shairport from boot?
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[14:24] <ShorTie> believe so
[14:25] <zamba> wow.. tried with darkice and mp3 encoding.. only uses around 25% cpu
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[14:25] <zamba> with liquidsoap it consumed 100% and still lagged
[14:26] <shiftplusone> wow... these applications have stupid names
[14:26] <zamba> hehe
[14:26] * ShorTie snickers
[14:26] <shiftplusone> at least it's not as bad as liquidice or darksoap
[14:26] <zamba> hehe
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[14:27] <ShorTie> or how about soyouwanttobearockstar
[14:27] <ShorTie> little long though
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[14:33] <zamba> is there a way i can try and figure out what causes this huge difference?
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[14:35] <ShorTie> i'd guess it is how the programs use the resources of the system, so dig thru the code and take a l@@k is about the only way i would know
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[14:39] <zamba> is there a way i can get these packages into my raspbian: https://packages.debian.org/search?arch=armhf&keywords=liquidsoap ?
[14:40] <zamba> basically i need the packages for jessie
[14:40] <ShorTie> what makes you think they are not ??
[14:41] <zamba> old version
[14:41] <ShorTie> apt-cache search liquidsoap
[14:41] <ShorTie> liguidsoap - control GUI for liquidsoap
[14:41] <ShorTie> well that is an all together diferent thing
[14:41] <shiftplusone> backport from jessie
[14:42] <zamba> Version: 1.0.1+repack1-1.1
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[14:42] <zamba> shiftplusone: how do i go about getting that?
[14:42] <ShorTie> guess that is where that pinning comes into play
[14:42] <shiftplusone> google debian backporting
[14:42] <shiftplusone> then click the first link, which should be this https://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation
[14:43] <shiftplusone> download from raspbian.org, not debian.org though
[14:43] <ShorTie> don't forget, there maybe dependancy differances which might make it not run in wheezy
[14:44] <pksato> outdated raspibian?
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[14:47] <jala_office> Hello
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[14:48] <zamba> hm.. nah.. i give up this :)
[14:48] <zamba> i'll install from source instead, i think
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[14:48] <pksato> or need to change to jessie/testing.
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[14:49] <ShorTie> don't think that works real well anymore, gotta do a net-install of jessie now i believe
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[14:50] <SohamG> Has someone(website) compiled a list of science-y rasp pi projects?
[14:50] <SohamG> If so, can I have a link to it?\
[14:51] <jala_office> i have a question: i'm trying to use "objdump -M intel ..." on a rpi, but get an error saying: "Can't use supplied machine intel"
[14:51] <ShorTie> maybe because the pi isn't intel based ??
[14:52] <ShorTie> it's a arm thing, not x86
[14:52] * ozzzy goes to buy a chicken to disembowel in order to get x forwarding working
[14:53] * ShorTie thinkz, eat more chicken
[14:53] <jala_office> that makes sense, i just thought objdump can do the mnemonics independet of the processor
[14:54] <ozzzy> X11Forwarding yes is set in sshd_config..... but echo $DISPLAY shows nothing
[14:55] <pksato> ozzzy: started client with xforwarding enabled?
[14:56] <ozzzy> this used to work... before apt-get update/upgrade LOL
[14:56] <SohamG> PLease can somebody bother to answer my question?
[14:57] <ozzzy> SohamG, if Google comes up with nothing then I can't help
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[14:57] <SohamG> ozzzy, haha....but isnt this the rpi channel?
[14:57] <dreamreal> "science-y raspi projects?" That's your question?
[14:58] <ozzzy> SohamG, yep... it appears to be
[14:58] * dreamreal is not sure where to go with that one, besides "google for science-y raspi projects," or "refine your question a lot"
[14:58] <jala_office> ShorTie: so i misunderstood what objdump does, i thought it's just translating the hex instructions based on a dictionary so it would be independet of the actual processor.
[14:58] <jala_office> *independent
[14:59] <Triffid_Hunter> jala_office: assembly is extremely processor specific
[14:59] <Triffid_Hunter> and objdump doesn't know a thing about C or anything higher
[14:59] <Triffid_Hunter> it only knows about the processors it's compiled to know about
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[15:00] <jala_office> thanks! that's good to know. But why is there a syntax switch at all then?
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[15:01] <jala_office> does an intel processor understand AT&T and intel?
[15:02] <jala_office> (for example)
[15:02] <Triffid_Hunter> jala_office: there's a number of different arm cores. there's also a few types of intel core.. objdump could probably be made to understand a couple of tyepes
[15:02] <Triffid_Hunter> types*
[15:02] <Triffid_Hunter> also many other cores have several similar variants
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[15:05] <jala_office> cool. sorry for asking so many noobish questions, but what would be the way to "make it understand other types" or to list qhich types are understood
[15:06] <jala_office> *which
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[15:07] <Triffid_Hunter> jala_office: that depends on the CHOST specified when you compile the toolchain
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[15:10] <ozzzy> well... no incantations have worked... there's no X forwarding
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[15:11] <jala_office> Triffid_Hunter: thank you! *reading about cross-compiling now*
[15:13] <ShorTie> jala_office, this might help http://linux.die.net/man/1/objdump
[15:13] <ShorTie> if you haven't already l@@ked
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[15:15] <jala_office> ShorTie: thanks! :) apparently i was looking at the wrong manpage, this one is much more detailed!
[15:16] <Peetz0r> Hey! What is the best way to stream video from the raspi camera over wifi to another computer (using vlc on that computer)?
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[15:20] <Bilby> Peetz0r you should be able to host a stream on the sending computer and pipe the camera into it, i think
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[15:21] <Bilby> Peetz0r start here, i think http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/23182/how-to-stream-video-from-raspberry-pi-camera-and-watch-it-live
[15:23] <niston> ozzy: waving a dead chicken?
[15:24] <Peetz0r> Bilby: I have tried that first method, but it does not work. I don't know why
[15:25] <niston> weee https://www.vitesse.com/products/product/VSC8211
[15:26] <niston> I'd use a broadcom chip, but there's no datasheet and nowhere to buy small quantities
[15:26] <Peetz0r> the second answer also does not work
[15:27] <shiftplusone> niston, eh?
[15:27] <ozzzy> niston, tried that... didn't work so I ate the chicken
[15:27] <shiftplusone> niston, what happened with the maplin stuff?
[15:27] <niston> ozzy: werd
[15:27] <niston> shiftplusone: maplin stuff?
[15:27] <niston> you mean the switching chip?
[15:27] <shiftplusone> aye
[15:27] <niston> unfortunately it cant be linked straight to SFPs
[15:28] <shiftplusone> but you can get a datasheet and buy it in small quantities, right?
[15:28] <niston> like, there's SGMII data/clock but the SFP has only SGMI data (LVDS)
[15:28] <niston> for the switch chip? yes, mouser has it
[15:28] <shiftplusone> ah sorry... I meant mouser, not maplin
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[15:29] <niston> hahahahaha! tax collector says I earned 40k last year and need to pay 3k2 in taxes
[15:30] <niston> HAHAHA
[15:30] * niston earned close to 120k
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[15:30] <niston> deductions ftw!
[15:30] <shiftplusone> yay
[15:30] <Armand> *cough* tax dodger *cough*
[15:30] <Bilby> Peetz0r not sure then, sorry
[15:30] <niston> hey. its legal!
[15:30] <Armand> Hehe
[15:31] <niston> 3k2 lol. lowest tax bill ever.
[15:32] * niston dances
[15:32] <ShorTie> that include self employment stuff ??
[15:33] <ShorTie> sound real low for 'total taxes' to me
[15:33] * ozzzy pays no taxes
[15:34] <ShorTie> thats my dream, lol.
[15:34] <niston> shortie yes
[15:34] <niston> and deductions for driving around LOTS
[15:34] <niston> and education
[15:34] <niston> and and and :D
[15:34] <ShorTie> ya, make money off that .55/mile thing
[15:36] * shiftplusone doesn't pay taxes. The government just takes it. >.>
[15:36] <niston> funky thing is, back after I completed my first education, I made around 52kpa
[15:37] <niston> and had to pay 14k in taxes
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[15:37] <niston> so glad I moved to another canton!
[15:37] <ozzzy> they withold something from my pension... but give it all back
[15:39] <niston> hmm this would ne nice http://www.broadcom.com/collateral/pb/8012S-PB00-R.pdf
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[15:39] <niston> but I can't find any datasheet, just this 2 page "product brief"
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[15:40] <niston> also, I don't think it can be had without buying like at least 10'000'000 pcs ?
[15:41] <ShorTie> you gotta work for broadcom to get the good stuff
[15:41] <niston> so, broadcom: hire me
[15:41] <ShorTie> i thought they where in the anti-hire mod
[15:42] <niston> speaking of hiring, I need to make a fone call
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[15:45] <niston> damn CEOs
[15:45] <niston> always busy
[15:45] <niston> >_<
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[17:12] <antoon> good morning internet
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[17:16] <ozzzy> well... other than x forwarding.... all is functioning... the ethernet, wifi, 12v step-down supply...
[17:18] <xxValiumxx> mmm X Forwarding
[17:18] <ozzzy> http://ozzzy.dyndns.org/images/mypi.png
[17:18] <ozzzy> yeah... I can't get X Forwarding to work... used to... then I updated/upgraded and now it doesn't
[17:18] <xxValiumxx> huh, what did you update/upgrade?
[17:18] <ozzzy> everything
[17:19] <xxValiumxx> oh lol
[17:19] <ozzzy> apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[17:19] <xxValiumxx> well, did you make sure that it was turned on in /etc/ssh/sshd_config ?
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[17:19] <ozzzy> yep
[17:20] <ozzzy> all the incantations went well, there was no thunder and no owl hooting
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[17:21] <ozzzy> but... echo $DISPLAY shows nothing
[17:21] <xxValiumxx> what are you sshing in with?
[17:21] <ozzzy> putty
[17:21] <shiftplusone> ozzzy, you win the slowest server of the year award
[17:21] <ozzzy> yep
[17:22] <antoon> maybe that server is the pi
[17:22] <shiftplusone> dial-up?
[17:22] <ozzzy> nope
[17:22] <ozzzy> DSL
[17:22] <antoon> ah
[17:22] <antoon> explains it
[17:22] <shiftplusone> well... thanks for reminding me of the 90s.
[17:22] <xxValiumxx> and you have this set up? http://puu.sh/ePo2D.png
[17:22] <antoon> decrease the size next time, ozzzy :p
[17:22] <ozzzy> xxValiumxx, yep
[17:23] <xxValiumxx> and Xming is running
[17:23] <ozzzy> yep
[17:23] <ShorTie> it's called 'lots of curious clickers'
[17:23] <antoon> i actually never got to use dsl, shiftplusone :<
[17:23] <shiftplusone> I think we went from dial up to cable and then to adsl.. O_o
[17:23] <ozzzy> and xming's log says that it has assigned a display
[17:24] <antoon> i went from dial up to fiber :(
[17:24] <ozzzy> I'll get fibre in Feb sometime
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[17:24] <xxValiumxx> dang ozzy, I dunno what to tell you mate.
[17:24] * kiely_elsewhere is now known as kiely
[17:24] <ozzzy> neither do I.... I checked all the 'expert websites' and everything is according to Hoyle
[17:25] <antoon> and x is actually running, etc?
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[17:25] <xxValiumxx> irrelevant, the x server is running on his local machine
[17:26] <xxValiumxx> though, what DOES happen when you try to run something ozzzy?
[17:26] <antoon> Oh, I thought the rpi had to have some sort of x-thingie running, so it could send the data
[17:26] <antoon> I might be going full retard though
[17:26] <xxValiumxx> nah, its just backwards thinking
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[17:27] <ozzzy> 'cannot open display:'
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[17:28] <ozzzy> and I'm assuming that's because there's no display
[17:29] <ShorTie> are you fourcing hdmi ??
[17:29] <antoon> my god, ozzzy. picture is still loading
[17:29] <ozzzy> it's only 1200x800
[17:29] * ShorTie concours, lol.
[17:29] <shiftplusone> someone get the man a dropbox account
[17:29] <ozzzy> I dumped dropbox
[17:30] <antoon> or stop uploading big pictures, shiftplusone. :-D
[17:30] <shiftplusone> because it took you 3 hours to upload anything to it?
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[17:30] <antoon> now now, shiftplusone. lets be gentle
[17:30] <shiftplusone> never
[17:30] <antoon> though, i'm getting faster connection this year (just wanted to put it out there)
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[17:32] <niston> damn, I went lethal on my subtenant
[17:32] <niston> now I have a headache -.-
[17:32] <niston> dude just hangs around, smokes pot all day and doesnt move a finger
[17:32] <niston> owes me close to 1k in rent
[17:33] <niston> and has the nerve to ask me for more money so he can go party
[17:33] <shiftplusone> Why did it get to the stage where he owes you 1k in the first place? You're not getting that money back.
[17:33] <niston> yeah I know
[17:34] <Bilby> niston bad times
[17:34] <niston> its not the money that pisses me off
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[17:34] <niston> im angry because the dude just hangs around and tells everybody how sick he is
[17:34] <Bilby> being married doesn't count... i never want a roomate again
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[17:34] <niston> next thing you see him partying around and meeting girls from internet chat
[17:34] <niston> I asked him to do his "job" and take care of the scrap paper
[17:35] <niston> and he gives me BS about how hes so tired
[17:35] <niston> all that no 3 minutes after asking me for 100 bucks to go party!
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[17:36] <niston> freaking retard he is
[17:36] <niston> I will throw him out
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[17:36] <antoon> do it
[17:36] <antoon> i approve of this eviction
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[17:37] <niston> I will have completed my education in may
[17:37] <niston> so no reason to stay here
[17:37] <niston> so I'll just terminate my contract for the flat
[17:38] <niston> by law his subcontract ends the day mine does
[17:38] <niston> even without prior notice
[17:38] * niston tempted to give him some BS back
[17:38] <ozzzy> http://imgur.com/dWszbTr
[17:38] <ozzzy> there... that'll be faster
[17:38] <ozzzy> LOL
[17:39] <antoon> i've spent the past 15 minutes waiting for your picture, ozzzy. i'm not about to quit now!
[17:39] <niston> whats that ozzy?
[17:39] <ozzzy> the case I built for the Pi
[17:39] <niston> raspi, powersupply led and button?
[17:39] <niston> nice
[17:40] <niston> was hoping it be an automatic eviction machine or something
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[17:40] <ozzzy> it's actually a mom switch for now.... all my buttons are NC (for some odd reason) and I didn't want to stick a p-channel fet in just to make it work
[17:41] <ozzzy> time to walk the dog
[17:41] <ozzzy> ttfn
[17:41] <thor77> hey, im trying to control this http://www.amazon.de/dp/B00KGGPGB6/ led-strip with my pi, its connected to this http://www.amazon.de/dp/B00KGKFKKO power supply. 5v and gnd are connected to the power supply's + and -, the pi is powered by my handy power-supply. if i try to run the test from https://github.com/tdicola/rpi_ws281x only the first led begin to light
[17:41] <thor77> what did i wrong?
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[17:42] <thor77> the led strip's DIN is connected to pin 18
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[17:44] <instigator> Hello. Does the raspberry pi ethernet card support promiscuous mode?
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[17:45] <pksato> instigator: that happen if try ip link set promisc on dev eth0 ?
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[17:46] <niston> data sheet says the chip supports it
[17:47] <niston> http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/268/9512db-369558.pdf
[17:50] <niston> shiftplusone: to answer your question: heating cost bill is the biggest part of the 1k.
[17:50] <niston> heating/water/other costs
[17:51] <shiftplusone> hm
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[17:51] <shiftplusone> Public service announcement: http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=97314
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[17:52] <xxValiumxx> thor77 its the timing
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[17:54] <niston> thanks shiftplusone
[17:54] <niston> interesting read
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[17:55] <shiftplusone> Np
[17:55] <shiftplusone> want to make sure it's widely known about before it becomes standard
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[17:57] <niston> I'll require dtoverlay=iqaudio-dac
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[18:00] <thor77> xxValiumxx: what should i do now?
[18:00] <[Saint]> What genius wrote "It is always important to read the small print, even if the small print is so small as to be invisible."
[18:01] <[Saint]> That's the most awkward phrase I've read in a long while.
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[18:01] <[Saint]> ...its possibly deliberate, but I'm not sure *what* its saying, in either case.
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[18:01] <xxValiumxx> thor77 attach some sort of AVR microcontroller
[18:01] <[Saint]> "always know stuff there may not be any realistic way of you knowing"
[18:02] <[Saint]> totally legit, RPF.
[18:02] <xxValiumxx> doesnt have to be a full arduino, even certain ATTiny chips will work
[18:03] <xxValiumxx> to be more clear thor77, some strips are more tolerant than others regarding timing, and the rpi cant achieve the exact timing requirements.
[18:03] <xxValiumxx> a microcontroller can.
[18:04] <xxValiumxx> thor77, you are sending data fror the shole strip, right?
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[18:04] <xxValiumxx> whole*
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[18:15] <thor77> xxValiumxx: yes
[18:15] <thor77> at least im trying too
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[18:20] <thor77> i thought it would be possible to control this led-strip only with the pi :/
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[18:24] <ApolloJustice> LOL, I just found out how good iPhone 4 cases fit a Pi
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[18:25] <ApolloJustice> the ringer switch even is aligned to the microUSB and everything
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[18:26] <thor77> what do i excactly need to archieve controling this led-strip with the rpi?
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[18:27] <thor77> here (https://learn.adafruit.com/neopixels-on-raspberry-pi/wiring) it looks like i only need a level conversion and everything should work
[18:28] <thor77> but they say it could work without the level conversion, too
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[18:28] <ApolloJustice> no, it won't. NeoPixels (and lots of other led strips too) draw too much current
[18:29] <ApolloJustice> which the Pi won't supply via it's 5v port
[18:29] <ApolloJustice> so you need both a power supply and level converter
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[18:29] <ApolloJustice> or a diode, either or
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[18:30] <thor77> i have a power spply
[18:30] <ApolloJustice> in both cases you'd need something that can provide 5v
[18:30] <thor77> i have a power supply that provides 5v
[18:30] <thor77> its connected to the pi and to the led-stripe
[18:30] <ApolloJustice> with a diode, i assume?
[18:30] <thor77> no, without a diode
[18:31] <ApolloJustice> that probably won't work or would be very unsafe
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[18:31] <thor77> the din-input of the led-stripe is directly connected to gpio-pin 18 of the pi
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[18:32] <thor77> like here https://learn.adafruit.com/neopixels-on-raspberry-pi/wiring but without the diode
[18:33] <ApolloJustice> well, try it but if something blows up don't blame anyone lol
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[18:35] <thor77> ApolloJustice: i tried it and it doesnt work. only the first led lights up
[18:36] <ApolloJustice> did you tell the python module how many LED's your strip has?
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[18:36] <thor77> ApolloJustice: yes
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[18:37] <ApolloJustice> if your code is correct, then your power supply might not be supplying enough power, or it's backfeeding because no diode
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[18:39] <thor77> ApolloJustice: okey, i will buy a diode and try it again
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[18:44] <thor77> ApolloJustice: oh, yes. it looks like its an issue with too less power, if the led lights up, the connected wlan-stick turns off... maybe i rly should try it with a diode
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[18:44] <thor77> uhm, you think it should work with a connection like on the adafruit-website?
[18:44] <thor77> so the diode between the DIN-input and the pin18?
[18:45] <ApolloJustice> uhh, were you running the ledstrip off the Pi's 5V pin?
[18:45] <thor77> no
[18:45] <thor77> led strip is directly connected to 5v
[18:45] <thor77> * 5v power supply
[18:45] <thor77> and pi's 5v-gpio-pin is connected to the same power supply
[18:46] <ApolloJustice> why?
[18:46] <thor77> ?
[18:46] <ApolloJustice> that's how you kill a Pi
[18:47] <thor77> i tried powering the pi via mini-usb but it results in only one led lightning up, too
[18:47] <thor77> kill?
[18:47] <thor77> i dont think it died
[18:47] <thor77> it works fine, right now
[18:47] <ApolloJustice> you're supposed to power the Pi via microusb, use another power supply to give 5V to the ledstrip via a diode, then connect DIN to gpio 18, and connect ground to the led strip's ground and the Pi's ground
[18:48] <thor77> can i try this without a diode?
[18:48] <ApolloJustice> i mean i guess, but again, it's not recommended
[18:49] <ApolloJustice> for this you would be using two power supplies
[18:49] <ApolloJustice> one for the Pi via microusb
[18:49] <ApolloJustice> and one for the led strip
[18:49] <Bilby> i haven't read the upscroll, but why two power supplies
[18:49] <Bilby> ?
[18:49] <thor77> i will try it without a diode
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[18:49] <thor77> and on adafruits website it looks like you explained...
[18:49] <ApolloJustice> Bilby, the LED strip draws too much power from the Pi
[18:51] <Bilby> right but if he powers the strip directly from the PSU, there's no reason not to use the same one for the pi, so long as it can supply enough current for both
[18:51] <ApolloJustice> it can't
[18:52] <ApolloJustice> since he said that once he powers the LED strip, USB peripherals die
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[18:53] <Yohio> Bilby: he's trying to power Pi through GPIO, which isn't even possible?
[18:53] <Bilby> ApolloJustice yeah, that'll be a problem...
[18:53] <thor77> Yohio: but it worked
[18:53] <thor77> and.. uhm
[18:53] <Bilby> Yohio you can, but you have to be careful as it's bypassing the power protection on the pi
[18:53] <thor77> now again only the first led lights up
[18:54] <thor77> its white
[18:54] <thor77> doesnt change the color
[18:54] <thor77> everything connected like you explained but without diode
[18:55] <ApolloJustice> with two power supplies?
[18:55] <ApolloJustice> what's the current for the power supplies?
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[18:57] <ShorTie> woohoo, after about week, finally got exim4 workin .. :)~
[18:59] <Bilby> Yohio do you have a guide or walkthrough you're following so i can see how you have it hooked up?
[18:59] <Yohio> Bilby: you mean thor77, surely?
[18:59] <ApolloJustice> Bilby, he's got it hooked up like https://learn.adafruit.com/assets/19659 without a diode
[18:59] <Bilby> <<
[19:00] <ApolloJustice> (presumably correctly)
[19:00] <Bilby> Oh, thse sare pixels
[19:00] <Bilby> *are
[19:01] <ApolloJustice> yeah, they draw 60mA each, so he needs a 1A supply if he has a 16-led strip
[19:01] <ApolloJustice> well 60mA max
[19:02] <Bilby> so if those are showing white... it's going to depend on how the programming is on the pixels. that may just be the "no signal" default
[19:02] <ApolloJustice> yeah but only one of his LED's lights up, that's the issue
[19:04] <Bilby> thor77 is it showing up white?
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[19:04] <ApolloJustice> <thor77 > > now again only the first led lights up
[19:04] <ApolloJustice> <thor77 > > its white
[19:05] <Bilby> only the first LED and white, to me, means it's not getting a valid signal
[19:05] <Bilby> so it's not passing the signal on, and it's going 255 255 255 on the three sub-pixels
[19:06] <ApolloJustice> well he told me he had programmed them correctly so that looked like an issue to me
[19:06] <Bilby> possible the pixel is bad. any way to test it with a known-good controller, or cut it off and try the next?
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[19:14] <Bilby> assuming thor77 is using the adafruit neopixels, the step-by-step looks super easy... http://www.adafruit.com/product/1138
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[19:22] <thor77> Bilby: where do you see a step-by-step-guide there?
[19:23] <thor77> Bilby: i dont think its broken, one time i powered it up, it was orange
[19:23] <thor77> and the next led was orange sometimes, too
[19:23] <Bilby> orange would be red and green (i think... i am not an artist)
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[19:24] <thor77> yes
[19:24] <thor77> it looks like the led's are fine
[19:24] <thor77> the signal will be the problem
[19:24] <thor77> or the power
[19:24] <Bilby> thor77 https://learn.adafruit.com/neopixels-on-raspberry-pi
[19:25] <Bilby> red has the lowest power requirement, blue the highest, so amperage problems would probably skew "white" into "yellow" or "orange".
[19:26] <ozzzy> well... I've tried everything.... no X Forwarding
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[19:26] <thor77> Bilby: that was the guide i was following
[19:26] <thor77> "Note that you might be able to get your NeoPixels to work without any level conversion, "
[19:27] <Bilby> how many pixels do you have on your string or how many meters/
[19:27] <thor77> 60pixels
[19:27] <thor77> 1m
[19:27] <Bilby> hmm... what size is your power supply?
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[19:28] <thor77> 5v
[19:28] <thor77> 8a
[19:28] <thor77> 40w
[19:28] <thor77> and.. uh, now the first led is green
[19:28] <thor77> (after power off power on)
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[19:30] <thor77> but still cant control it
[19:30] <Bilby> it looks like you eithere have to have a level converter or that diode to drop the voltage down
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[19:31] <thor77> are you sure it will work then?
[19:31] <Bilby> the wiring page of the guide indicates so, and indicates (and i agree) that a level converter is the better option
[19:33] <Bilby> always sucks when you need more parts :(
[19:33] <thor77> yes :(
[19:33] <Bilby> if you have a diode tat will work, you can always try it with the diode as proof of concept
[19:34] <thor77> i don't have any diodes
[19:34] <Bilby> problem is RasPi is UART 3.3v, pixels made to work on 5v. the difference in voltages means the signal is not "triggering" the pixel reliably.
[19:35] <thor77> hm, okey, but its still very curious, that the first sometimes have a different color
[19:35] <thor77> *first led
[19:35] <Bilby> level converter means the pixel gets 5v power and 5v signal and is happy. diode means pixel gets ~ 3.3v power and 3.3v signal and is slightly less happy
[19:35] <thor77> okey, i will look for a level converter and hope to get it working :)
[19:36] <Bilby> iirc with pixels each one receives the signal and re-transmits it, so the first pixel is getting -some- data and trying to make the best of it but is messing up a bit :P
[19:36] * Bilby sounds very scientific (not)
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[19:37] <thor77> Bilby: thanks for your help so far :)
[19:38] <thor77> now i have some hope, i will get it working :)
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[19:43] <Bilby> welcome, good luck :)
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[19:43] <Bilby> I've had 2-3 times when i wanted to do something like controlling LEDs with a pi, but i ended up either doing something else or using a dedicated controller
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[19:55] <johang> someone should add CONFIG_MODULES=y to upstream bcm2835_defconfig
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[20:44] <Peetz0r> so, I fixed my camera streaming thing
[20:44] <Peetz0r> http://82.197.212.29/ (use vlc)
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[20:47] <Bilby> Peetz0r neat! pretty smooth.
[20:47] <Bilby> apparently it's night where you are <<
[20:48] <ApolloJustice> that's a nice setup Peetz0r
[20:48] <thor77> Bilby: looks very nice :)
[20:48] <Bilby> fairly low noise considering the light levels :)
[20:48] <Peetz0r> yes, it's night
[20:49] <Peetz0r> also, I have fiber
[20:49] <Bilby> aaaaand now I want to travel to europe <<
[20:49] <Bilby> aaaand now i'm super jealous
[20:49] <Peetz0r> 50/50 (more like 50/80)
[20:49] <Peetz0r> also, then can deliver gigabit, but that would be actual overkill
[20:49] <Peetz0r> yes, gigabit to the home, not kidding
[20:50] <ApolloJustice> tfw i have 2/0.3
[20:50] <Bilby> 50/5 at home, but i'm about to drop it down because the cost is a bit rediculous
[20:50] <Bilby> i really want some up bandwidh ;__;
[20:50] <ApolloJustice> the cost for 10/3 here is absolutely stupid
[20:51] <ApolloJustice> 2/0.3 is $70/mo
[20:51] <ApolloJustice> like WT
[20:51] <ApolloJustice> h
[20:51] <Bilby> owie
[20:51] <ApolloJustice> well $799 pesos
[20:52] <ApolloJustice> which is about 70 or 72
[20:52] <ApolloJustice> dollars
[20:52] <Bilby> aha
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[20:53] <ApolloJustice> you can get 100/50 but it's ridiculous it's something like 2500 pesos /mo
[20:53] <ppq> Peetz0r, sweet, how much do you pay for that line?
[20:54] <Armand> I dread to think how much our 40Gb lines cost. :P
[20:54] <Bilby> what kills me is 50/5 for home use is $70 / month but 20/2 for business is $120
[20:54] <Armand> More than I earn, no doubt.
[20:54] <ozzzy> I have 6/640K... it's fine
[20:55] <ApolloJustice> mine is 2/300K
[20:55] <ozzzy> and that's fine too
[20:55] <ApolloJustice> it's really noot
[20:55] <ApolloJustice> lol
[20:55] <ozzzy> you must learn patience grasshopper
[20:56] <ApolloJustice> never lol
[20:56] <ApolloJustice> 300kb/s downloads are painful
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[20:56] <ozzzy> good thing you have 2mb download speed
[20:56] <ApolloJustice> 2 megabit
[20:56] <Peetz0r> this one, 50/50, is €35/month
[20:57] <ppq> do want :O
[20:57] <ozzzy> they've run fibre past the house.... dunno if I'll get it or not
[20:57] <ppq> i have 10/1 for 25€
[20:57] <ApolloJustice> i get 400KB/s down and 23 KB/s up
[20:57] <Peetz0r> ozzzy: they won't run fiber and not let you use itt. that'd be a waste of money and time
[20:57] <ApolloJustice> it's painful
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[20:57] <Peetz0r> but it could take a few months
[20:57] <ozzzy> Peetz0r, I don't know if I'll have them put it in
[20:57] <Peetz0r> it took a few months here when they did it
[20:58] <Peetz0r> ozzzy: do it. it's stupid to not do it
[20:58] <ozzzy> depends on the price/cap
[20:58] <Armand> 110MB/s downloads are SSHHWWEEEEEETT!
[20:58] <Armand> ^_^
[20:58] <Armand> Sadly, I only get that from a few sources.
[20:58] <Peetz0r> ozzzy: oh, wait, you mean actually subscribing to a isp
[20:58] <ozzzy> yep
[20:58] <Peetz0r> that's a seperate thing here
[20:59] <ozzzy> same ISP... just switching DSL for fibre
[20:59] <Peetz0r> here, the first step is to let the network operator to install the fiber in your house (for free), and the next step is to actually get a service from an ISP (which costs you anywhere from €30 to €100 permonth)
[21:00] <ozzzy> here the ISP installs the fibre or copper
[21:00] <Peetz0r> not doing the first step is stupid, because getting that afterwards is difficult and takes time and possibly money
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[21:01] <Peetz0r> here many isp's *and* the network operator are actually owned by the same company (KPN, used to be government owned until late 90's), but they are seperate things
[21:01] <ApolloJustice> here if you get an installation from X company, you are forced to subscribe to their internet service, and if you switch, they un-install the wiring
[21:01] <ozzzy> they don't uninstall it here... they just turn it off and leave it LOL
[21:02] <Peetz0r> here it was designed as an 'open network' (that was before KPN (biggest telco) bought Reggefiber (network operator in most fiber projects)) but today it's getting more and more closed
[21:02] <Peetz0r> more and more KPN-owned
[21:03] <Peetz0r> My ISP is the only one that offers their own IPTV platform, all the other ones are just KPN resellers
[21:03] <Peetz0r> also, my ISP is possibly the only one that lets you have a root shell on the routers they supply
[21:03] <ApolloJustice> here the only telco that does the wiring is Telmex, and if you unsubscribe to their internet service, they take off the wiring, so if you want to go to other company, you have to get a 3rd-party to run the wiring again
[21:04] <ppq> Peetz0r, are you forced to user their box?
[21:04] <ApolloJustice> ugh they also make me use their router, they don't give you the PPPoE credentials
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[21:04] <Peetz0r> nope
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[21:05] <Peetz0r> they post instructions on their website how to configure your vlans and routing :)
[21:05] <Peetz0r> also, they offer usenet for free to their own customers, and also to others
[21:05] <Peetz0r> https://www.tweaknews.eu/ ;)
[21:06] <Peetz0r> also, their HQ is in my hometown
[21:06] <Peetz0r> also, they have a semi-official irc channel
[21:06] <Peetz0r> where most of their tech staff hangs out
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[21:08] <Peetz0r> so.... now everyone here is moving to NL because of fiber?
[21:08] <ozzzy> no... I can get fibre here
[21:08] <ppq> i thought about moving there to study
[21:08] <ppq> if they have good interwebs, all the better
[21:09] <ozzzy> I don't think I'd want to live in Europe
[21:09] <Peetz0r> ppq: please do :)
[21:09] <Peetz0r> you *are* welcome
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[21:09] <ppq> finishing my master's in germany at the moment, maybe after that :)
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[21:09] <Peetz0r> ah, close enough
[21:09] <ozzzy> mind you.... I think Europe would be better than the US and a LOT better than Asia
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[21:10] <Peetz0r> yeah, US can't even get their healthcare straight
[21:10] <ozzzy> they're a mess
[21:10] <Peetz0r> that makes it a 3rd world country by my not-so-humble standards
[21:10] <Peetz0r> also the most arrogant 3rd world country ever
[21:11] <Peetz0r> also way behind china
[21:12] <ppq> i have some friends who study in groningen, delft and amsterdam.. maybe in 2016 i'm going
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[21:26] <ozzzy> well that busts it... I have to get this xforwarding working
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[22:21] <ozzzy> well... still no XForwarding but at least vnc works
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[22:29] <jeeshofone> ozzzy: whats up with your Xforwarding?
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[22:30] <ozzzy> jeeshofone, doesn't work
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[22:31] <jeeshofone> raspbian?
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[22:32] <ozzzy> yep
[22:33] <shiftplusone> every time I glance at this channel, it's something about X forwarding O_o
[22:34] <ozzzy> geez... if it worked nobody would mention it [gring]
[22:35] <shiftplusone> works fine... ssh -Y and bam... forwarded...
[22:36] <ozzzy> oh... darn... no 'ssh' here... only putty
[22:36] <[Saint]> You forgot the bone casting and shamanism.
[22:36] <[Saint]> and ritual sacrifice.
[22:36] <ozzzy> [Saint], did that... AND the chicken disembowelling at midnight
[22:36] <shiftplusone> works fine with xming and putty too
[22:37] <ozzzy> not here
[22:37] <jeeshofone> only putty :(
[22:37] <ozzzy> used to
[22:37] <[Saint]> Did you try rebooting the chicken first?
[22:37] <ozzzy> ever since apt-get update/upgrade it's broke
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[22:37] <jeeshofone> ssh -vvvXY if you can to get debugs
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[22:38] <ozzzy> maybe putty -vvvXY
[22:38] <[Saint]> anyhoo - all laughs aside, it is very much a "Just Works" thing, with a minimal amount of points of failure during setup.
[22:38] <ozzzy> [sheesh]
[22:38] <[Saint]> hahahahaha! cute.
[22:38] <Werel> It's been about six months since my last install, and I'm sunning an SSH server I use away from home... as well as some apache LAMP stuff.. I'm gonna try apt-get upgrade ( after updating ) for the first time, is this usually THE smart thing to do, or should I be worried about packages breaking, or?
[22:39] <[Saint]> My regex must be somewhat busted.
[22:39] <ozzzy> well... I've been through all the 'expert' sites, all the stuff they say to do is done... xming is opening a display
[22:39] <[Saint]> I just got a nick highlight on '[sheesh]' lol
[22:39] <ozzzy> but sshd isn't setting $DISPLAY
[22:40] <[Saint]> Werel: remote upgrades aren't ever really a "smart" thing to do.
[22:40] <pksato> humm... this is set by shell. sshd only pass.
[22:40] <[Saint]> Not unless you can guarantee you won;t kick yourself off the network.
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[22:40] <ozzzy> sshd should start setting displays at 10.0
[22:40] <pksato> shellshock?
[22:40] <Werel> [Saint], what I was alternately planning was manually going apt-get upgrade on specific packages.. can I do that, for example, "sudo apt-get upgrade apache2" or whichever
[22:40] <ozzzy> doesn't
[22:40] <Werel> ?
[22:40] <[Saint]> If sshd falls over, say, and its your only point of access to that machine...what then?
[22:41] * ozzzy goes to drive his son home
[22:41] <[Saint]> Werel: you can, sure, but the same applies.
[22:41] <Werel> [Saint], I gotcha..
[22:41] <Werel> I just want to be secure <:)
[22:41] <Werel> I run it headless at home, it's really convient
[22:42] <[Saint]> Right, well, it all depends on cost vs. gain.
[22:42] <Werel> kkk
[22:42] <Werel> erm
[22:42] <Werel> kk
[22:43] <Werel> faux pas x.x
[22:43] <[Saint]> ie. - what will, or could, it cost you? (multiple hours, days, weeks, months downtime?), vs. what could it gain you? (does the system work fine now? If so - why upgrade at all? etc.)
[22:43] <ozzzy> guess I'm not leaving yet
[22:44] <[Saint]> If you're not there right now able to look at and touch the machine physically, and it is currently in complete working and functional order - golden rule is, don't touch it.
[22:44] <[Saint]> Never poke a running system unless there's a good reason.
[22:45] <[Saint]> ANd unless there's a glaring and actively exploited CVE that you _know_ has been patched in a specific update, these things can wait.
[22:45] <[Saint]> But if the downtime won't hurt you, and you're bored, and like poking at things - sure, go for it, its how we learn.
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[22:49] <Werel> allrighty, thanks for the tip!
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[22:50] <ozzzy> I wonder if the USB monitor will work with the pi
[22:50] * ozzzy fires up google
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[22:56] <scytale> Anyone in here tested 18650 batteries with raspberry pi?
[22:56] <ozzzy> not I (wonder what they are)
[22:58] <scytale> they are usually inside some notebook batteries and they are fairly cheap when you order from china
[23:01] <ozzzy> ahhh
[23:01] <ozzzy> my pi runs from a 12V wallwart or an automotive battery
[23:01] <scytale> I plan to put mine on a tree in the woods ;)
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[23:33] <SpeedEvil> you need a step-up or down to 5V
[23:33] <SpeedEvil> then it's just a 5V supply.
[23:33] <SpeedEvil> If using your own batteries, you need to ensure tehy're not over-discharged
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[23:54] <niston> ozzy: does it have a displaylink chip?
[23:55] <niston> theres a linux driver around for the gen 1 ones at least
[23:57] <niston> http://www.anup.info/blog/2012/10/13/raspberry-pi-mimo-monitor/
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