#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-01-25

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[0:06] <q_a_z_steve> Anyone else seeing issues where PiWriter won't open on OSX Yosemite?
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[0:27] <Travis> Hello.
[0:27] <snowcatman> i think i need some mentoring
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[0:29] <Basketball> vidioc_dqbuf no such device no frames captured
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[0:34] <willmore> Does anyone use an rPi camera to make time lapse photos?
[0:34] <willmore> I'm looking for a good workflow to take a ton of jpg files and make a video.
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[0:35] <shiftplusone> http://www.raspberrypi.org/learning/timelapse-setup/
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[0:37] <Basketball> vidioc_dqbuf no such device no frames captured
[0:37] <willmore> shiftplusone, yeah, that would make sense...
[0:37] <willmore> Thanks. :)
[0:38] <shiftplusone> heh, np
[0:38] <Basketball> shiftplusone,
[0:38] <shiftplusone> I think it would make more sense to use mmal to encode the video rather than use mencoder, but I haven't stumbled across a tool like that.
[0:38] <Basketball> willmore,
[0:39] <shiftplusone> Basketball,
[0:39] <shiftplusone> context
[0:39] <shiftplusone> with words
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[0:40] <Basketball> i ran fswebcam -d /dev/video0 -r 320x240 test.png
[0:41] <shiftplusone> haven't used fswebcam. What does "lsmod" say? Also "ls -la /dev/video0". Please use pastebin.
[0:42] <willmore> Well, foo. the mencoder command line they gave doesn't work for me.
[0:42] <willmore> To the man page!
[0:42] <giddles> hey
[0:42] <giddles> i used fswebcam motion
[0:42] <giddles> make me grey hair :D
[0:42] <giddles> whats the problem?
[0:43] <Basketball> so i was following https://medium.com/@Cvrsor/how-to-make-a-diy-home-alarm-system-with-a-raspberry-pi-and-a-webcam-2d5a2d61da3d
[0:43] <shiftplusone> ah... Mr. Giddles to the rescue.... I'm going to go make some tea.
[0:44] <giddles> hehe
[0:44] <Basketball> and i finished the guide and i went to vlc to go view the camera and it didnt work
[0:44] <giddles> so you got the rpi cam?
[0:44] <giddles> ok
[0:44] <Basketball> no
[0:44] <willmore> Okay, fixed--I think. movie making...
[0:44] <Basketball> it is a webcam
[0:44] <giddles> try sudo modprobe v4l2
[0:44] <giddles> check and then tell what happened
[0:45] <Basketball> fatal module v4l2 not found
[0:45] <giddles> hmk
[0:45] <giddles> is the driver correctly in created in the file.. i forget deb ....
[0:45] <giddles> 'deb ...'
[0:46] <Basketball> what do i do
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[0:47] <giddles> did you try sudo modprobe v412
[0:47] <giddles> ?
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[0:48] <Basketball> i told you
[0:48] <Basketball> fatal module v4l2 not found
[0:48] <giddles> sudp apt-get update
[0:48] <giddles> sudo apt-get upgrade
[0:48] <shiftplusone> I don't think that's the right track
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[0:49] <giddles> hm try 'locate v4l2'
[0:49] <Basketball> .__ .__ .__
[0:49] <Basketball> ______ | | ____ _____ ______ ____ | |__ ____ | | ______ _____ ____
[0:49] <Basketball> \____ \| | _/ __ \\__ \ / ___// __ \ | | \_/ __ \| | \____ \ / \_/ __ \
[0:49] <Basketball> | |_> > |_\ ___/ / __ \_\___ \\ ___/ | Y \ ___/| |_| |_> > | Y Y \ ___/
[0:49] <Basketball> | __/|____/\___ >____ /____ >\___ > |___| /\___ >____/ __/ |__|_| /\___ >
[0:49] <Basketball> |__| \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ |__| \/ \/
[0:49] <niston> oO
[0:50] <giddles> hm
[0:50] <shiftplusone> Basketball, that's a good way to get banned.
[0:50] <shiftplusone> (again)
[0:50] <giddles> shiftplusone why is that not a good track :)
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[0:51] <giddles> ok question basketball
[0:51] <giddles> did you add bcm2835-v4l2 in your /etc/modules ?
[0:51] <shiftplusone> unspecified lazy reasons
[0:52] <giddles> if he followed a guide like me for v4l
[0:52] <giddles> :D
[0:52] <shiftplusone> you're using the official camera though
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[0:52] <giddles> ah ok no driver
[0:53] <giddles> :D
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[0:53] <giddles> information i didnt knew..
[0:53] <shiftplusone> which the bcm2835-v4l2 driver is for.... I don't know what's needed to get a v4l2 driver for that particular cam he's using, but it won't appear simply by running apt-get upgrade.
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[0:54] <giddles> im sorry though hes using rpi cam and do the same shit as me
[0:55] <giddles> thought
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[0:55] <shiftplusone> happens
[0:56] <willmore> I'm using my crappy old cell phone with a silly program that takes pictures at specified intervals.
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[1:01] <giddles> why not
[1:01] <giddles> rpi cam cheaper as a ms v4l friendly webcam
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[1:11] <Basketball> please
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[1:11] <Basketball> shiftplusone,
[1:12] <shiftplusone> don't highlight me, I can't help you.
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[1:30] <[Saint]> I very highly suspect that translates to "wouldn't help you, even if I could" ;)
[1:32] <shiftplusone> yes, based on past experience with that user.
[1:33] <[Saint]> Simply based on the past ~100 lines of scrollback, I can totally see that happening.
[1:34] <[Saint]> Patience is not a virtue you're lacking, when its tested, I know there's a reason for it.
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[1:34] <shiftplusone> I don't seem to have much of it left nowadays. I've rage quit IRC a few times recently >.>
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[1:36] * niston blames it on zombies
[1:37] <[Saint]> I would prefer to blame it on the (relatively small, but extremely vocal) percentage of users that fail to put in even a single mote of effort into solving their own issues besides using this channel and its occupants as an intermediary to google.
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[2:24] <Bilby> I'm learning more about transistors and current flow by watching Dave rant about free energy devices than I have in the last year... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoqF3gjLIyI
[2:25] <shiftplusone> I enjoyed that video too
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[2:28] <Bilby> shiftplusone he has too many toys. always jealous.
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[2:29] <ozzzy> he who dies with the most toys wins
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[2:30] <Bilby> Dave has a -lot- of shiny.
[2:31] <shiftplusone> what kind of shiny do you want?
[2:31] <Bilby> all of it? lol
[2:31] <Bilby> well, i could do with some of the knowledge, but a sub-volt accurate power supply and a 4-channel oscilloscope would be quite handy here and there :P
[2:32] <shiftplusone> I don't know... stuff tends to pile up if you don't have an infinitely sized desk. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/175702/desk.jpg
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[2:34] <Bilby> haha yeah... mine is about that bad, but slightly different gear
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[2:35] <Bilby> I also liquidated 90% of my belongings in 09 and had everything pretty much in storage until 2011, so a lot of my vintage parts are gone
[2:35] <Bilby> But I've picked up a few tools here and there... some day some client is going to have a problem that requires an oscilloscope :P
[2:36] <shiftplusone> Ah, I moved countries, so I don't have anything here. But everything I need is at the office anyway, so it's not a problem.
[2:37] <Bilby> that's nice. I have a home office, but otherwise my office is wherever I'm working... and I have to assume that whoever I'm helping doesn't even have a screwdriver (so often they don't)
[2:38] <shiftplusone> ah, makes sense.
[2:39] <Bilby> I have a little temperature-controlled soldering station at home, but half the time I end up using a cheap pencil I've had for years, because it lives in my tech kit so i always have it
[2:41] <Bilby> damn... he has a long shot of that power supply, that thing is huuuuge
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[3:48] <Encapsulation> I figured it out, the cheap h brdiige board is worthless for pi
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[3:48] <Encapsulation> I checked it with a meter 12v coming out of input pin
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[3:49] <Encapsulation> 12v ---> pi gpio pin >>> burnt pi
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[3:50] <willmore> Encapsulation, bad Encapsulation, no!
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[4:53] <u-ou> uh
[4:53] <u-ou> you know how rpi uses hdmi
[4:53] <u-ou> does that work with all versions of hdmi
[4:53] <u-ou> like there's 1.3, 1.4 and 2.0 and sh*t
[4:54] <u-ou> (i'm shopping for monitors and i hate it :P)
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[4:54] <ali1234> there is also HDCP to worry about
[4:54] <ali1234> i don't know the answer anyway, sorry
[4:55] <u-ou> how does anyone ever buy anything ever
[4:55] <u-ou> with all these things to worry about
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[4:56] <FrankD> is there a certain way to configure X in Raspbian to get 1920x1080?
[4:56] <FrankD> i can only get 1680x1050, I assume because I'm using some framebuffer driver
[4:58] <clever> framebuffer is the normal method for the pi
[4:59] <FrankD> ok
[4:59] <FrankD> is there a way to tell it i have a 1080p monitor hooked to it?
[4:59] <clever> i think the normal method is config.txt, to override the hdmi mode
[4:59] <FrankD> ok
[4:59] <ali1234> what is the model of your monitor?
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[5:00] <u-ou> ali1234: i'm not really understanding HDCP. in what situations would someone need it?
[5:00] <shiftplusone> FrankD, yes, using config.txt. Just set the correct mode. You can use tvservice to check what's supported by your display.
[5:00] <FrankD> ali1234, ehh some LG
[5:00] <ali1234> u-ou: nobody needs HDCP... it's like DRM
[5:00] <u-ou> oh, lol
[5:00] <u-ou> ok :P
[5:00] <FrankD> shiftplusone, how would i use tvservice?
[5:01] <u-ou> uh.
[5:01] <FrankD> ah i see --modes=DMT
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[5:01] <FrankD> so i have to reboot to get 1080?
[5:02] <clever> tvservice would let you change things without a reboot
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[5:08] <FrankD_> well that almost worked well, maybe it wouldve been better to not have had X up :p
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[5:08] <FrankD> i feel like screen redraws are notably slower now
[5:08] <clever> more space to draw on, needs more cpu cucles
[5:09] <FrankD> of course.. not that it should need CPU cycles :\
[5:09] <FrankD> i have an odroid C1 coming in, hopefully the mali GPU is supported well.. so I can use my Pi for something less intensive
[5:10] <FrankD> well, the 4 pis I have..
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[5:16] <FrankD> lets see if we can get 1150 stable :p
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[5:20] <FrankD> well i guess an extra 15% doesnt necessarily help according to human senses :P
[5:20] <FrankD> ah well
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[5:29] <ali1234> 1920x1200 is quite a big difference to 1080 actually
[5:30] <u-ou> so 1920x1200 is pretty laggy on an rpi?
[5:31] <u-ou> but 1600x1050 is ok?
[5:31] <ali1234> no idea, i use composite video and a text terminal
[5:31] <ali1234> i would imagine any kind of GUI would be horribly laggy on a pi
[5:31] <ali1234> terminal is slow enough
[5:32] <FrankD> it wasnt too bad at 1680x1050 with a 1GHz clock
[5:32] <FrankD> 1.15GHz and 1920x1080 is still laggy.. if there was something better than an fb driver it'd be fine
[5:32] <ali1234> my desktop has a 3.2GHz quad core, 16GB ram, dual SSDs, and a gtx 780. so i am kind of spoiled
[5:33] <FrankD> my desktop has a 3.3GHz 16 core, 32GB of RAM SSDs and 10GbE with a GTX 970, so im kind of spoiled
[5:33] <FrankD> my other desktop has a 4.5GHz 8 core, 16GB of RAM, SSDs, 10GbE and two GTX 670 FTWs
[5:33] <ali1234> i don't believe you :P
[5:33] <FrankD> no?
[5:33] <FrankD> want an lscpu?
[5:33] <FrankD> dual opteron 4284s
[5:33] <ali1234> in a desktop?
[5:33] <FrankD> yup
[5:34] <ali1234> is it good?
[5:34] <FrankD> my fileserver has 4x4 (16 cores), 128GB of RAM and an MSA70 drive array (25x2.5" drives)
[5:34] <ali1234> does firefox finally run without lag?
[5:34] <FrankD> and my VM server has 4x6 (24 cores), 64GB of RAM and 10GbE to the iSCSI/ZFS server
[5:34] <FrankD> lol
[5:34] <FrankD> not really :P
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[5:46] <FrankD> firefox isnt too laggy on the RPi.. I just run it from a VM with X forwarding :P
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[6:35] <Xark> ...it is fine until you load a page or move the mouse. :)
[6:37] <[Saint]> Yeah, its totally fine if you don't plan on using it as, y'know, a web browser.
[6:38] <Xark> "Dedicated about:blank renderer" :)
[6:43] <[Saint]> "Now uses only 120% of available RAM!"
[6:46] <abnormal> sweet
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[8:46] <y007ghg7> ParkerR, h
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[9:04] <u-ou> how well do pi's handle youtube?
[9:05] <Triffid_Hunter> u-ou: they don't. use youtube-dl or similar to grab mp4s and feed them to omxplayer
[9:06] <u-ou> ok. and then the result plays fine?
[9:06] <Triffid_Hunter> yes
[9:06] <u-ou> cool :)
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[9:29] <u-ou> will this work fine with a pi? http://www.asus.com/nz/Monitors_Projectors/VE248H/
[9:33] <[Saint]> yes, sure, but that's largely overkill.
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[9:34] <u-ou> I guess :P
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[9:35] <[Saint]> and the material they have published there is bordering on trolling.
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[9:35] <[Saint]> the "with and without Full HD" comparisons are hilarious.
[9:35] <u-ou> hahaha yeah
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[9:35] <[Saint]> aaaaaaaaand the response times.
[9:36] <Guest67561> a tv might be more economical
[9:36] <u-ou> does response time even matter
[9:36] <[Saint]> only if you're an insect.
[9:36] <u-ou> hehe
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[9:36] <[Saint]> ~2ms response times aren't really anything we can actively percieve as being smoother.
[9:37] <u-ou> I wouldn't think so either
[9:37] <[Saint]> In fact, humans show time and time again that they actually _dislike_ realistic reproduction in videos.
[9:37] <[Saint]> we seem to prefer around 22~24fps
[9:38] <[Saint]> I'm not sure why. But, hey.
[9:38] <u-ou> mmm
[9:38] <[Saint]> I /think/ it has something to do with our eyes applying some degree of natural motion blur as compensation.
[9:38] <q_a_z_steve> how can I manage getting WiPi up on Raspberry-Asterisk ? I've tried adding things to /etc/network/interfaces, I created a file based on Raspian: /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf Just because I saw that in the Raspian /etc/network/interfaces right after I set up WiPi on it. At this point I don't even know if WiPi drivers or WPA is installed.
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[9:39] <[Saint]> Its been a fair while since I read about this, but our brains do quite a lot of assumption, guesswork, and filling int he expected blanks with image processing.
[9:39] <u-ou> ah
[9:42] <[Saint]> But various manufacturers of high end gaming gear will tell you that its _absolutely_ important to push as many frames to the screen as possible, and have the monitor display as many as possible, even though there's no way we've been able to actively percieve a difference for a number of years.
[9:42] <[Saint]> 'cos...money.
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[9:45] <readwrite> +bragging rights
[9:52] <[Saint]> well, yeah, that too.
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[10:02] <q_a_z_steve> Can someone give me a hand on the wipi stuff?
[10:03] <[Saint]> Only if you ask a question about it.
[10:04] <[Saint]> One can't possibly know if they can answer you before you've asked the question.
[10:06] <q_a_z_steve> [Saint]: My first post was How do I get WiPi working on Raspberry-Asterisk?
[10:06] <q_a_z_steve> I thought I would get close by using what Raspbian does, especially since I think they are both based on Wheezy, for now.
[10:08] <[Saint]> Its the first time I've even heard of the project personally.
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[10:08] <[Saint]> I wouldn't be surprised if that was true for most people.
[10:10] <u-ou> [Saint] there's also all this talk about contrast ratio does that matter
[10:10] <q_a_z_steve> Running Asterisk on a Pi, possibly. But I love the idea. Especially hardware footprint and energy. I'm actually considering proto-boarding an ATA.
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[10:46] <q_a_z_steve> [Saint]: I'll table the issue of wifi if I can get SSH working. I need some way to enable SSH, and raspi-config didn't work last time. I have wiped and reinstalled on a different SD to see if there may have been some weird issue with the dd copy I did, this time I used ApplePi to write the image. How do I enable SSH connections?
[10:48] <[Saint]> I have absolutely no idea about the image you're using, sshd should be a default component, if its not, I have no idea what they're doing.
[10:50] <q_a_z_steve> raspi-config exists, but I think it might not be the best way to configure some things, based on Asterisk needing to control other factors about OTHER settings. There's no documentation about this that I have found.
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[10:52] <q_a_z_steve> I can only say that the thing immediately denies connection "by peer" whatever terminology is actually used. It never comes to a password, it shouldn't be a port choice issue, but I'm willing to be explicit to -p 22.
[10:54] <Guest67561> where did you get your image from ??
[10:55] <q_a_z_steve> Could it be an issue of hwclock? raspberry-asterisk.org, or sourceforge.
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[10:56] <Guest67561> sounds like an image issue, try http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/raspbian_latest
[10:57] <q_a_z_steve> Guest67561: I'm not running straight raspbian. ?? And I just confirmed the SHA-1 of my file to the source.
[10:59] <Guest67561> then we are of like no help, it's up to you to figure out why sshd is not running, because it is in the offical release
[11:00] <Guest67561> but maybe could try '/usr/sbin/sshd start'
[11:00] <q_a_z_steve> Guest67561: but it's not enabled by default, is it?
[11:01] <Guest67561> tis in the offical image
[11:01] <Guest67561> who knows what is in that image
[11:01] <Guest67561> may not even be there, got me
[11:02] <q_a_z_steve> I'll try running the daemon. I wasn't sure if that was all I would need, especially with hwclock or other questions looming about the rest of this process. If I had an HDMI tv near my wired internet this wouldn't be nearly the bane it is.
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[11:02] <Guest67561> try 'apt-get install sshd' maybe
[11:02] <q_a_z_steve> Just starting the daemon once still won't enable it each time, though right?
[11:03] <Guest67561> nop, gotta add it to rc.update or what ever it tis
[11:03] <Tachyon`> if you apt-get it it should install each time, I think it might just be ssh though, not sshd to include both client and server
[11:03] <Tachyon`> yes, the installation script should already do that
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[11:04] <q_a_z_steve> Their docs say it's definitely there. And anyway, it should be even if they stripped out other stuff. Meanwhile, is there any way I can confirm my actual install? After booting confirm permissions or something?
[11:04] <Guest67561> you said you got raspi-config, l@@k in there to see how it's started on boot
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[11:06] <q_a_z_steve> Look where? I enabled it the first time. At least if it was successful. My composite monitor leaves much to be desired. And the first time I booted with the monitor there was no internet at all. I moved it to internet to try ssh with no luck.
[11:07] <[Saint]> at the end of the day, this is us making assumptions about an image that may or may not include God only knows what, that none of us (involved in this conversation at least) but you have ever used.
[11:07] <[Saint]> So its all going to be speculation.
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[11:08] <q_a_z_steve> where would you look on a straight wheezy Raspbian?
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[11:08] <[Saint]> nowhere, because sshd is up be default.
[11:08] <[Saint]> *by
[11:09] <[Saint]> at the very first boot, sshd is up and reponsive.
[11:09] <Guest67561> i'd l@@k to 'apt-get install sshd' or what ever it tis
[11:09] <q_a_z_steve> And if it were disabled, where would you find out? Not how would you enable is again.
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[11:11] <RudyValencia> Hi, how do you upgrade NOOBS on your RPi's SD card?
[11:12] <Guest67561> might go bug #asterisk about it
[11:12] <Guest67561> do you really use NOOBS ??
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[11:13] <Guest67561> or do you have your os of choice ??
[11:13] <q_a_z_steve> If Asterisk were the OS, perhaps that would be best. Give me a minute. I enabled it for sure (as much as I can tell) in raspi-config. I'll reboot and wire in to the LAN.
[11:13] <RudyValencia> I thought it was the only way to boot the RPi
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[11:13] <Guest67561> nop
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[11:14] <Guest67561> a striaght image is better, imho
[11:14] <RudyValencia> Is there one for Arch Linux?
[11:15] <Guest67561> sure, well sort of
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[11:15] <[Saint]> No - is the correct answer here.
[11:15] <RudyValencia> ah
[11:16] <[Saint]> alarm stopped doing images aaaaaaages ago.
[11:16] <Guest67561> new arch has no image, it's a different type of install
[11:16] <[Saint]> its a bit, but not much, more convoluted.
[11:16] <RudyValencia> I have Arch as my desktop OS
[11:16] <Guest67561> but you can still get the old 1 and just update it
[11:16] <RudyValencia> is this how it's done now: http://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv6/raspberry-pi
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[11:16] <Guest67561> Yuppers ... :)
[11:16] <[Saint]> beat me to it, yes.
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[11:17] <[Saint]> You're rather lucky you have a *nix OS on your host already
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[11:18] <[Saint]> the alarm and arch docs are pretty militant about assuming Windows doesn't exist.
[11:18] <Guest67561> or grab http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/arch/images/ and update it with pacman
[11:18] <RudyValencia> and that should work with a larger SD card than the default 8gb (using 32gb)?
[11:18] <[Saint]> Guest67561: that's so ancient you'll end up downloading more than the image's size in updates and end up with a bunch of *.pacnew configurations to sort through.
[11:19] <[Saint]> likely numbering in the dozens.
[11:19] <[Saint]> it won't be a fun way to proceed.
[11:19] <Guest67561> same thing NOOBS uses
[11:19] <[Saint]> yes, which is why it arguably shouldn't be in there.
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[11:20] <[Saint]> I don't see the point in using a vastly updated image for a distro like Arch that updates so frequently.
[11:21] <[Saint]> You'd have to download a LOT of data to bring it up to current, and then potentially have to fight with a bunch of configs, its just not fun.
[11:21] <Guest67561> i just giving options, it up to them to pick and choose is all
[11:22] <[Saint]> Not a lot of point, if the user is already running Arch on their host, its fairly safe to assume they're comfortable with the system and the alarm install poses no barrier.
[11:22] <[Saint]> If the user was not, I would be tempted to agree.
[11:22] <Guest67561> granted, in the long run http://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv6/raspberry-pi is most likely better
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[11:23] <[Saint]> I hadn't updated arch in a few days a while ago as a scheduled task had failed.
[11:23] <[Saint]> 3 days of no updates == ~120MB of compressed binaries to download. :)
[11:25] <[Saint]> the alarm base install images are usually current to within a week or so I believe - vs multiple months for the NOOBS version.
[11:26] <[Saint]> built yesterday, apparently. Nice timing.
[11:26] <Guest67561> heck if the foundation cared at all
[11:26] <[Saint]> WHat can they do about it?
[11:27] <Guest67561> i'm sure they could make there own image in about 10 minutes
[11:27] <[Saint]> Its not like RPF can do anything about Arch's alarm release cycles.
[11:27] <Guest67561> but they got they'it's our way or the hiway' attitude about it, lol.
[11:27] <[Saint]> apart from saying "could you perhaps, maybe, not do that?"
[11:27] <[Saint]> Ummm...what?
[11:28] <[Saint]> I'm not sure where you're getting that from.
[11:28] <RudyValencia> I'm working with another fella on an OS project and we are thinking about having the RPi as an ARM example
[11:28] <Guest67561> from it disappearing from http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/
[11:28] <[Saint]> ...because they stopped producing images.
[11:28] <[Saint]> what would you have them do?
[11:29] <[Saint]> (honest question - what's an alternative here?)
[11:29] <q_a_z_steve> Alright SSH is up, now I can move on to actually using the thing. Fun times.
[11:29] <Guest67561> ya, it would take them so long to make a new 1 for arch users of there product
[11:29] <RudyValencia> What toolchain can I use to cross-compile binaries for the RPi?
[11:29] <Guest67561> but no, they want arch to change for them
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[11:30] <[Saint]> I...what?
[11:30] <RudyValencia> ah armv6l
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[11:31] <[Saint]> Guest67561: I'm not entirely sure what point you're making here.
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[11:31] <Guest67561> the foundation thinkz it's god
[11:32] <[Saint]> Alarm stopped producing images that could be trivially dd'ed onto a storage volume, RPF stopped supplying the images, as they stopped existing. That's pretty much the entirety of it.
[11:32] <[Saint]> Where you get the idea that RPF thought they could enforece some control here, or tried to, is completely foreign to me.
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[11:33] <Guest67561> i've made my point on it, i'm with with the argument of it
[11:33] <[Saint]> You've made a point, sure, and consistently failed to back it up.
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[11:33] <[Saint]> extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
[11:34] <Guest67561> not in my opion, you just closed minded on it, imho
[11:34] <[Saint]> for failing to believe in something there's no evidence of?
[11:34] <[Saint]> ...well, forgive me.
[11:34] <[Saint]> It'll be unicorns next.
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[11:35] <Guest67561> like i said, if they still wanted to supply a current arch image for there product, it would not take that long to make 1
[11:36] <[Saint]> that's not what I took issue with, the issue I have is with your accusation of RPF having a God complex.
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[11:36] <[Saint]> That's...a bold accusation.
[11:36] <Guest67561> but they want arch to do it all for them
[11:36] <[Saint]> Based on what?
[11:37] <Guest67561> from it disappearing from http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/
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[11:38] <[Saint]> alarm stopped supplying images, RPF stopped supplying the images they stopped supplying. That supplies no evidence of RPF wanting arch to "do it all for them", it just provides evidence of RPF not providing a third party image they're not obligated to supply, at all, because its incompatible with teir documentation and RPF has no business supplying support when alarm can do so.
[11:38] <Guest67561> [05:33:01] <Guest67561> i've made my point on it, i'm with with the argument of it
[11:38] <[Saint]> your accusation that RPF tried to force some degree of control here is, frankly, bordering absurd.
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[11:39] <Guest67561> Laughs Out Loud
[11:39] <[Saint]> Hey, I'm not the one failing to back up my claims with facts bud.
[11:39] <[Saint]> I could speculate about random shit all day, but, why?
[11:42] <[Saint]> As I stated. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, ...hell, at least some evidence would be nice here. Not random speculation that seems to be largely paranoid and completely unwarranted.
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[11:43] <Guest67561> it's not arch trying to sell a product, it's the foundation !!
[11:43] <[Saint]> That isn't connected to your argument _at all_.
[11:44] <[Saint]> Frankly, you made a claim, can't back it up, and now you're just stumbling trying to argue something that's beyond your capacity.
[11:44] <[Saint]> Its mildly amusing.
[11:46] <Guest67561> Its mildly amusing how your stuck in your ways to only look at one side of it
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[11:47] <[Saint]> Do as I've asked multiple times and present a single shred of evidence to support your claim.
[11:48] <[Saint]> Repeated failure to do so has me with little option but to believe you're simply a troll.
[11:48] <Guest67561> [05:37:00] <Guest67561> from it disappearing from http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/
[11:48] <[Saint]> or, largely misguided, at best.
[11:48] <[Saint]> That is not any evidence of your claim.
[11:49] <[Saint]> Alarm made the specific choice to make their image incompatible with the current way of handling things as it was, why don't you see them as the evil ones?
[11:49] <niston> what's the claim? free energy?
[11:50] <[Saint]> RPF is some form of evil empire for not supplying Alarm images...or...something.
[11:50] <[Saint]> Its frankly ridiculous.
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[11:50] <niston> ah.
[11:51] <[Saint]> and apparently the burden is on the RPF to do so, for...some reason.
[11:51] <niston> all hail imperator Eben
[11:52] <Guest67561> claim, [05:27:36] <Guest67561> but they got they 'it's our way or the hiway' attitude about it
[11:52] <[Saint]> Alarm made the specific choice to make their image incompatible with the current way of handling things as it was, why don't you see them as the evil ones?
[11:53] <[Saint]> I could do this all day honey.
[11:53] <Guest67561> it's there product, they can do what they wish with it !!
[11:53] <[Saint]> And the same is true of the RPF, no?
[11:53] <[Saint]> Boom - logic.
[11:54] <[Saint]> you just played yourself.
[11:54] <Guest67561> yup, but RPF wants them to conform to there wishs
[11:54] <[Saint]> No, they don't.
[11:54] <Guest67561> not RPF conform to arch's
[11:54] <[Saint]> ...nope.
[11:55] <Guest67561> yes sir
[11:55] <[Saint]> You, dear sir or madam, are a troll.
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[11:57] <[Saint]> Oh god...it all makes sense now.
[11:57] <niston> Grand Moff Governor Saint, deploy the Tie Fighters.
[11:57] <[Saint]> Yep.
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[12:43] <u-ou> is 1920x1080 useable if you want to run X (but don't care about video playback)
[12:43] <skyroveRR> Yup.
[12:43] <skyroveRR> But give your gpu some more memory.
[12:44] <u-ou> how do I do that? ;o
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[12:44] <u-ou> also, i might use some lightweight wm like i3
[12:44] <niston> raspi-config
[12:44] <skyroveRR> u-ou: check out the file /boot/config.txt and the options it uses.
[12:44] <niston> has an option to set GPU memory
[12:44] <u-ou> ah
[12:44] <skyroveRR> And that also.
[12:44] <u-ou> cool, cool
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[13:36] <u-ou> how much memory should i give it ;p
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[13:44] <[Saint]> Precisely fourhundred and seventytwo trillion petabytes.
[13:44] <[Saint]> No more, no less.
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[13:48] <u-ou> o_o
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[13:51] <SirLagz> It can haz ALL the RAMZ
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[13:54] <ShorTie> work your way up the memory split options, 16/32/64/128/256, in raspi-config and see what 1 you like best maybe ??
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[13:54] <u-ou> oh ok
[13:54] <u-ou> didn't realise it had those
[13:54] <u-ou> i don't have access to my pi right now
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[13:55] <ShorTie> yes, under Advanced Options/Memory Split
[13:56] <ShorTie> i'd probily start in the middle to see what it's like, then go up or down 1 from there
[13:57] <[Saint]> I would say start by just leaving it as it is.
[13:57] <[Saint]> see if that suits you, it likely will.
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[13:57] <[Saint]> its not like you've got heaps of RAM to spare.
[13:57] * ShorTie thinkz, which is the middle
[13:58] <[Saint]> isn't the default 16MB?
[13:58] <[Saint]> If its not, I would question why.
[14:00] <ShorTie> 16 probily only really works as a server with no gui, but just guessing
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[14:05] <MrRick> I'm just getting started with 'Pi. Where do I find documentation on pigpio module?
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[14:07] <ShorTie> sortta depends on the language your gonna program in i would think
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[14:12] <[Saint]> well, considering its a python module, choices are limited one would think.
[14:13] <[Saint]> http://abyz.co.uk/rpi/pigpio/python.html
[14:13] <[Saint]> ahhh, ...really?
[14:14] <ShorTie> sorry, was thinking of C and wiringPi as an option
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[14:32] <dalep73> Hi. I've installed piMAME to run the old arcade games but struggling to find the ROMS
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[14:35] <[Saint]> dalep73: that's not something we can help you with here really.
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[14:35] <ShorTie> sorry, no help on copyrighted stuff here
[14:35] <[Saint]> Doing so kinda flies in the face of Freenode policy
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[16:11] <granden> Hi, I'm trying to setup a stream from my RPis camera using the following cammand I found. http://pastebin.com/XffacSyx Everything seams to work, I think. I can not connect to the stream and check
[16:12] <granden> It says its not a valid stream I have tried rtsp://my.local.ip.adress:12345 in VLC but without luck
[16:13] <thor77> you have to use http i think
[16:13] <thor77> "'#standard{access=http,mux=ts,dst=0.0.0.0:12345}'" says http
[16:14] <thor77> granden: ^
[16:14] <granden> Ok I try that
[16:14] <granden> Thanks
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[16:16] <granden> Nix, that did not help.
[16:17] <ShorTie> dst=0.0.0.0:12345 l@@ks goofy to me, sure it's not like 127.0.0.1... ??
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[16:17] <granden> I dont know acctually. As I said, fonud this on the magical interweb ;)
[16:18] <granden> I'm going to try though. Thanks.
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[16:23] <granden> Ha, damn, did not help either.
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[16:28] <ShorTie> only other thing i see goofy is the 3 /'s after v4l2
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[16:31] <einalex> netstat is your friend
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[16:35] <granden> ShorTie: I think that is becasue first two is like the protocoll-thingy and the third one should be the adress to the videocamera that is /dev/video0 I think?
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[16:35] <granden> einalex: How should I use that?
[16:38] <ShorTie> could be, is there a /dev/video0 ??
[16:39] <giddles> pi cam? *ill better ask before the hat0rs blow me up*
[16:39] <giddles> or whats the problem
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[16:41] <thor77> giddles: yes
[16:41] <thor77> giddles: he tries to use this script: http://pastebin.com/XffacSyx
[16:42] <thor77> but it doesnt work
[16:43] <giddles> i had done it with fswebcam and motion
[16:46] <giddles> even http stream works with motion ;-)
[16:50] <ShorTie> sorry giddles if it seemed like i was haiting, just going of off old info they gave me in v4l, glad to see /dev/video0 is working, might play with it again after taxes
[16:51] <giddles> i dont think that was you shortie :D
[16:51] <ShorTie> guess that is why you gotta check the web page's date on any howto your trying to follow, things do change
[16:52] <giddles> yes
[16:52] <giddles> sudo modprobe :D
[16:52] <giddles> thank you again ;)
[16:52] <giddles> it works very fine and stable
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[16:54] <giddles> ill now try to buy two more pi's and noir cams :-)
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[17:05] <ShorTie> you always use them in the dark or for day light too ??
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[17:08] <giddles> both
[17:08] <ShorTie> somebody posted about these if you want like true daylight i think http://www.dx.com/p/small-ir-cut-filter-switcher-for-cctv-camera-black-362506#.VIx7VHuQ99M
[17:08] <giddles> in dark with some ir light above 840nm
[17:08] <giddles> :)
[17:08] <giddles> works perfect
[17:08] <giddles> ^^
[17:08] <giddles> and you really cant see, you only see a ring of red diods small glewing
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[17:09] <ShorTie> ya, but that brings the day light stuff to more truer colors
[17:09] <giddles> onpicam you can see the whole power of the light
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[17:09] <giddles> ah ok
[17:09] <giddles> i dont need more, black/white is quite ok
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[17:09] <ShorTie> oh, ok
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[17:11] <ShorTie> i hook up some ir-lights to see when the deer cross my driveway
[17:12] <giddles> oh that sounds more spectacular project as my home monitoring
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[17:17] <r3dsm0k3> giddles: Im also on the same project, except Im using gstreamer and nginx-rtmp
[17:18] <r3dsm0k3> not with raspicam though. I use Logitech C920.
[17:19] <HoloPed-> hi all, I want to move 720p images across the screen. I'm using pygame and the FPS is really low. Is this a hardware limit or software?
[17:19] <r3dsm0k3> giddles: but with gstreamer and gst-omx hardware encoding it wont be a problem at all
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[17:21] <r3dsm0k3> HoloPed: maybe check htop?
[17:21] <r3dsm0k3> see if it is httting max
[17:21] <r3dsm0k3> *hitting
[17:22] <giddles> gstreamer hmk
[17:22] <giddles> never heard about
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[17:27] <r3dsm0k3> giddles: Ah. Its awesome. the swiss army knife.
[17:27] <HoloPed_> r3dsm0k3, yeah its at 95% cpu
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[17:36] <HoloPed_> Will C++ OpenGL be faster than PyGame on the PI? For blitting large images.
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[19:06] <funkster> whats other next options if i need something more stable then relying on sdcard/OS mishaps/etc. i will be installing devices in remote locations so the less possibilities of problems the better. sort of like flash code on arudio less issues arise. but i need USB/ETHERNET
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[19:11] <HoloPed_> My camera is alive!
[19:11] <HoloPed_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd7LKRB63qI
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[19:11] <HoloPed_> Raspberry powered thermal-printer instant camera
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[19:14] <r3dsm0k3> HoloPed_: \m/
[19:15] <r3dsm0k3> Looks pretty neat.
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[19:19] <ldiamond> Anyone know how to setup sound for mpd on the raspberry pi?
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[19:20] <ldiamond> I have xbian installed, the sound works for xbmc, but I dont seem to have alsa or anything else.
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[19:21] <ldiamond> when I try to play music through mpd/mpc, I get an error saying "problem opening audio device"
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[19:36] <funkster> anyone familiar or can link me to a way so i can power rpi pi and led strip off one power supply?
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[19:44] <thor77> funkster: buy a second power supply
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[19:44] <funkster> thor77: ......
[19:45] <thor77> :P
[19:48] <ShorTie> how does the power supply output the power ??
[19:49] <ShorTie> solder pads, screw terminal, lug nuts, ......
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[19:53] <ShorTie> most likely the easiest to power the pi is cut the big end off of a micro-usb cable, dig out the red and black wires, and attach those to the power supply
[19:54] <SpeedEvil> _first_ check that the friendly chinese operative has not reversed red and black
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[19:56] <ShorTie> kinda standard, but yes ALWAYS a good idea to ohm things out
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[20:00] <SpeedEvil> ShorTie: yes, it is a standard colour marking.
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[20:01] <SpeedEvil> Which works just as well if the guy puts the reels into the machine backwards.
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[20:41] <Kunsi> hello, i'm trying to get my raspi working as car pc. it's working, but i want it to automatically shut down if i switch my car off. any recommendations on hard/software? currently have a button connected to SCL0 to shutdown and start my pi, so i'd assume i have to have some sort of relais to issue a pulse on ignition on/off
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[20:46] <funkster> Is it possible to check if the crednetial of a wireless network work without connecting? i am looking to have one wireless card and run a access point and then check if credentials of another wireless network work. anyone know?
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[20:54] <ali1234> funkster: it's possible, but probably not at the same time as running an AP
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[20:56] <CoJaBo_> Kunsi: You could use a voltmeter to save the effort of running extra wiring. Or frankly, just leave it on all the time..
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[20:57] <[Saint]> This is what I would put in the "bad idea" category without some sufficient magic to attempt to keep the device alive for a clean shutdown.
[20:57] <[Saint]> else you're going to find out about the wonders of trashed filesystems in short order.
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[21:01] <Kunsi> CoJaBo_: leave it on is not an option, sadly.
[21:01] <Kunsi> but … how would i use a voltmeter?
[21:02] <CoJaBo_> Switch based on the input voltage; it'll be several volts higher when the engine is running
[21:03] <Kunsi> yeah … but how would i connect that to my pi?
[21:04] <CoJaBo_> There should be voltmeter circuits that are pi-compatible; just need 3v3 pins and SPI or whatnot.
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[21:04] <Kunsi> hmkay
[21:04] <Kunsi> i'll have a look at that
[21:04] <CoJaBo_> It could shut itself down when it sees the voltage drop (turning on automatically would require a bit more parts tho, but probably not difficult)
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[21:05] <[Saint]> its going to need its own dedicated line (which is going to draw some small amount of vampire current), or a battery backup.
[21:05] <[Saint]> else power will just get cut abruptly when the accessory line goes out.
[21:05] <[Saint]> ...and we really don't wan tthat.
[21:05] <CoJaBo_> Depends on the vehicle
[21:05] <CoJaBo_> Mine even has 2 outlets, one switched one not
[21:06] <[Saint]> well the 'one not' isn't the accessory line.
[21:06] <[Saint]> so, no.
[21:06] <ali1234> there's a lot of lipo usb battery packs out there
[21:06] <[Saint]> anyhoo - you definitely don't want this 'shutting down' by abruptly killing power to it.
[21:07] <[Saint]> that's only going to work, largely by chance, for so long.
[21:07] <ali1234> you could also make the filesystem read only
[21:07] <Kunsi> that's what i have here, too. raspi should be powered by "not switched" line, and should boot up/shut down depending on switched line state
[21:08] <CoJaBo_> Kunsi: If you can access the switched line, you just need a circuit to convert that to 3v3 levels that the pi can read
[21:08] <Kunsi> everything's there, just have to wire it up
[21:08] <ali1234> CoJaBo_: that won't be able to turn it on though
[21:09] <[Saint]> you could flip a rely on accessory on that bridges the testpoints and brings it back up.
[21:09] <[Saint]> *relay
[21:09] <ali1234> the control circuit needs to be able to work with the pi off, but it also needs to be controlled by the pi as well
[21:09] <CoJaBo_> If you do that, make sure the pi has a boot delay of a few seconds
[21:10] <Kunsi> currently i'm converting 24V (truck) to 12V (display) and 5V (pi), so converting to 3V3 should not be a problem
[21:10] <[Saint]> on the B1/B2 its the P6 header that will bring a powered but off pi back up.
[21:11] <[Saint]> on the +...its called something I can't remember offhand.
[21:11] <[Saint]> on most of mine I just jammed a surface mount button on there.
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[21:12] <[Saint]> being able to bring up a powered-but-off pi easily is very handy.
[21:13] <ali1234> so you need a circuit that pulses one pin when the ignition goes off, and another pin when it goes on
[21:13] <ali1234> but that still has problems
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[21:13] <[Saint]> yeah, its sure not bullet proof.
[21:13] <ali1234> eg if you disconnect the battery then reconnect it, the pi will turn on even though the ignition isn't on
[21:14] <CoJaBo_> That's why I like the voltmeter solution :P
[21:14] <[Saint]> that's hardly bullet proof either.
[21:14] <[Saint]> in fact, less so.
[21:14] <ali1234> that is even worse
[21:14] * [Saint] nods
[21:14] <CoJaBo_> ?
[21:15] <ali1234> i would just make the filesystem read only personally. and then power it from the accessory power that goes off with the ignition
[21:16] <ali1234> has anyone ever seen a usb power pack that can report charge level to the device over usb?
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[21:16] <[Saint]> if its going to be particularly useful, its going to have write access to some part of the attached storage.
[21:16] <[Saint]> and power suddenly dissappearing here is not "A Good Thing"
[21:16] <ali1234> that's what ram disks are for
[21:17] <[Saint]> ~100MB of media...woo! :p
[21:17] <CoJaBo_> You could use an HDD
[21:17] <ali1234> you don't need write access to media
[21:18] <[Saint]> CoJaBo_: using an HDD doesn't fix this.
[21:18] <CoJaBo_> Just make sure its well cusioned lol
[21:18] <[Saint]> No disks like power suddenly disappearing.
[21:18] <ali1234> ssds usually have enough capacitor to guarantee write operations finish
[21:18] <[Saint]> ali1234: that's a bold claim, we have no idea what OP is doing.
[21:18] <ali1234> then you just need a journaling filesystem
[21:18] <ali1234> there are actually many solution to this problem
[21:19] <[Saint]> one can't flatly say 'you don't need write access to media'
[21:19] <RudyValencia> How about a UPS-like battery that is charged while the car is running but supplies power while the car is stopped?
[21:19] <ali1234> but in the main it is unneccessary to even have write access
[21:19] <CoJaBo_> [Saint]: I don't think I've seen a case where an HDD screwed up on power loss; not since like, Win98 lol
[21:19] <[Saint]> its probably true, catagorically true? no.
[21:19] <[Saint]> CoJaBo_: well, that's nice, but it doesn't mean it doesn't happen or is isn't possible
[21:19] <RudyValencia> There is something similar in Nintendo cartridges to cut out the save battery while the game is powered on
[21:20] <CoJaBo_> [Saint]: If you have to repair the filesystem every 5 years, that still seems like reasonable risk :P
[21:20] <[Saint]> withthe amount of cold starts a vehicle would be presenting this machine...5 years seems like a very long estimate
[21:21] <ali1234> the bullet proof solution is a lipo battery pack and a circuit which the pi can use to determine if there is vehical power or not
[21:21] <ali1234> this is also the simplest solution
[21:21] <[Saint]> I would honestly be surprised if the filesystem lived through a month of several hard shutdowns a day.
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[21:21] <CoJaBo_> [Saint]: The drive would probably fail physically before getting corrupted. There isn't all that much that can go wrong.
[21:22] <[Saint]> keeping in mind there's "weird shit" TM like the driver accidentally pulsing the accessory line by jerking the keys, etc.
[21:22] <[Saint]> there's a whole lot of fun stuff to have to gaurd against.
[21:22] <CoJaBo_> Yeh, that's why I mentioned probably needing a boot delay in the pi..
[21:22] <ali1234> [Saint]: i used to design IVI systems
[21:23] <[Saint]> ali1234: Oh God...what terrible messes can I blame you for? ;)
[21:23] <ali1234> [Saint]: nothing you've ever used, you might have been annoyed by one of the TV trucks i worked on though
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[21:24] <CoJaBo_> I had a PSU fail once by switching rapidly on and off; the drive connected to it reported Fun Things in the SMART data, but worked perfectly fine afterwards
[21:24] <ali1234> anyway, filesystem corruption was pretty far down the list of problems we had... after vibration killing the hard drives and dirt/fumes clogging up the air vents
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[21:24] <[Saint]> assumedly you used systems that didn't like to occasionally trash their filesystems at the drop of a hat anyway, though.
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[21:25] <CoJaBo_> Linux is one of those systems :P
[21:25] <ali1234> we used commodity PCs running linux through an inverter powered by the vehical
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[21:25] <ali1234> didn't even have a readonly filesystem
[21:25] <ali1234> never had a problem with corruption
[21:26] <ali1234> those trucks were driving around for 16 hours a day though
[21:27] <CoJaBo_> The reason Bad Things happen to Flash media on hard-poweroff is due to the very exotic ways data is stored. HDDs don't have the same problem
[21:27] <funkster> so i used my RPI to build a proof of concept solution workds great, but i need a more stable solution then risking sdcard corruption/OS issues i haven't anticipated. it only controls LEDs and does http calls. nothing a full OS is needed for. So any insight into what hardware i should look into next?
[21:27] <[Saint]> yeah, I mean, I'm definitely not saying that this can't work, it can, sure. But I am saying that just a simple acc-on pi boot, acc-off, pi cuts out cold, is likely going to end up annoying the hell out of someone at some point.
[21:27] <ali1234> CoJaBo_: indeed, that's why flash media has big capacitors now
[21:27] <ali1234> although microsd cards don't have that luxury
[21:27] <ali1234> you're supposed put the caps on the board
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[21:27] <CoJaBo_> funkster: You could do "bare-metal programming", if you're up for that kind of fun
[21:28] <funkster> CoJaBo_: basically in a since, that would be arduino like things? write the code, it boots and runs that code, and thats all
[21:28] <CoJaBo_> Pretty much. There's guides to doing it on the pi
[21:30] <CoJaBo_> You still need the bootloader code (because that's not OSS), but you can get rid of the kernel and rest of OS, and just run programs directly
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[21:30] <[Saint]> a cheap (and boy are they cheap) generic arduino clone would be plenty for this.
[21:30] <[Saint]> and the myriad of shield clones out there.
[21:31] <[Saint]> quality is sometimes a bit sketchy, but, when they're literally a few bucks...meh.
[21:32] <[Saint]> if one's DOA, its not like its something to cry about, vs. spending quite a bit more on a brand name solution.
[21:33] <funkster> right. know any names off hand?
[21:33] <ali1234> do you want ethernet or wifi?
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[21:34] <funkster> ali1234: yeah, wifi would be ideal.
[21:34] <ali1234> well, that's going to be tricky without usb
[21:35] <ali1234> and atmega series don't have host usb
[21:35] <funkster> i can do ethernet route.
[21:35] <funkster> wired.
[21:35] <ali1234> i would just keep using the pi. get a model a+ and once again... read only filesystem
[21:36] <ali1234> http://www.amazon.co.uk/ENC28J60-Ethernet-Network-Schematic-Arduino/dp/B00IOB9FPI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1422218086&sr=8-2&keywords=avr+ethernet
[21:36] <ali1234> you could use that though ^
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[21:38] <funkster> ahh gotcha - yah a readonly filesystem on RPI might be pretty stable.
[21:38] <funkster> may go that route.
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[21:38] <funkster> i'd have to learn c+ if i go the arduino/bare metal route also. thats too much time. heh
[21:39] <ali1234> you'd have to learn C and assembler actually
[21:39] <ali1234> or wiring if you use arduino
[21:40] <ali1234> wiring isn't really very much like C++, it's even less like C++ than the common "C with classes" dialect of C++ that most people write
[21:41] <[Saint]> if you're looking at the embedded/electro-things field, learning C, and some ASM, is pretty much unavoidable.
[21:41] <[Saint]> there will come a time it'll be forcibly thrust upon you.
[21:41] <ali1234> yoou should use it anyway
[21:42] <ali1234> writing proper interrupt handlers is so much better than the "massive polling for loop" style used by all arduino sketches ever
[21:42] <[Saint]> There's really plenty of great resources for learning some C grounding out there.
[21:43] <[Saint]> No so much for ASM, but, they do exist.
[21:43] <ali1234> AVR assembly is really easy to learn
[21:43] <ali1234> it only has like 100 instructions
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[21:45] <funkster> yah if i had the time i would def learn it, but i need to get this project to market, asap.
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[21:46] <[Saint]> I find it largely impossible to believe you don't have a spare hour or so every other day.
[21:46] <[Saint]> its not as large an investment of time as you might think it to be.
[21:47] <ali1234> if you know how to use a calculator you can learn AVR assembly in 1 day
[21:47] <[Saint]> ^ this
[21:48] <ali1234> also if you are making something to sell, consider that AVR chips cost like 50p
[21:48] <[Saint]> people just seem to have this 'dude, ...stuffs hard, I ain't gots no time fo that" mentality, and I have no idea what triggered this.
[21:48] <ali1234> which will save you about £15 per unit over a raspberry pi
[21:48] <[Saint]> we live in a world of near-instant gratification now, I guess.
[21:49] <ali1234> "assembler is hard, i want to program my microcontroller with java"
[21:49] <[Saint]> but, yeah, there's a tonne of decent free resources that will walk you through a grounding in C out there.
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[21:49] <[Saint]> I *wish* I had access to what I do today ~20 years ago...
[21:50] <[Saint]> I learned C from real books.
[21:50] <[Saint]> like, actual paper books, remember those things? ;P
[21:51] <steve_rox> whats paper
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[21:51] <[Saint]> I still really need to go back and finish up on some of the more 'higher order' language techniques, but, meh. I can usually figure it out as required.
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[23:00] <shiftplusone> What's the plan for it?
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[23:03] <ldiamond> Anyone know how to get mpd to work on an xbian pi?
[23:03] <ldiamond> It's as if there is no soundcard (though xbmc outputs sounds without problem)
[23:04] <ldiamond> mpc says: ERROR: problems opening audio device
[23:04] <ldiamond> aplay -l says : aplay: device_list:252: no soundcards found...
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[23:07] <AnTi_MTtr> shiftplusone: not sure, maybe some sort of rover robot
[23:07] <AnTi_MTtr> would like to see how it can outshine an arduino
[23:07] <shiftplusone> Ah, there was someone here recently with the same plan. Camera, remote control and everything?
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[23:07] <AnTi_MTtr> yeah why not
[23:07] <AnTi_MTtr> if it can stream video that'd be cool
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[23:32] <BenStrike[ATL]> hi guys, could someone tell me if a project I'm considering is feasible/possible?
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[23:34] <[Saint]> Not if you don't tell someone what that something is.
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[23:35] <BenStrike[ATL]> i more or less want to make it display baseball box scores, then scroll through the days games
[23:36] <[Saint]> that is entirely feasible.
[23:36] <BenStrike[ATL]> and I don't really know my starting point, have a little python experience with arcmap
[23:36] <BenStrike[ATL]> but none with the pi
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[23:37] <[Saint]> There's a number of different ways one could do it, the one that stands out to me as being the easiest to implement would be a locally hosted webpage on the raspi that reads from as RSS feed (or feeds, plural) of baseball game scores - that I am going to assume without even looking there's umpteen dozen different implementations of.
[23:38] <[Saint]> If there's not $generic_sportsball_score_RSS_feeds, I would be _very_ surprised.
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[23:39] <[Saint]> Heh..I just checked, and there's approximately seventynine bajillionteen and twelve different RSS feeds for baseball scores.
[23:39] <[Saint]> give or take a few.
[23:40] <BenStrike[ATL]> haha
[23:40] <BenStrike[ATL]> what would be the best way to display all this? say I wanted to have it in a standalone box or something
[23:40] <BenStrike[ATL]> LCD screen? LEDS?
[23:41] <nid0> an lcd screen would be easiest, cos then its just have a webpage displaying the output from your feed, and plug a screen into hdmi
[23:41] <nid0> you could perfectly well do it with scrolling leds, but its more work
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[23:42] <[Saint]> There's any number of different ways you could do it, I would personally lean to an LCD with some magic to parse the rss feed and draw that as a proper looking baseball park scoreboard.
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[23:42] <[Saint]> I think, personally, that if you didn't make it look like a proper score board, you're missing a golden opportunity.
[23:42] <BenStrike[ATL]> so it would be more less pulling an RSS feed, then displaying it on a locally run webpage?
[23:43] <[Saint]> The other (VERY simple) way is just an LED matric with a "stock ticker" type scroling display.
[23:43] <Tachyon`> you could do that with an arduino
[23:43] <BenStrike[ATL]> i have no experience with any of this, so its just sorta research atm
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[23:45] <[Saint]> For the record, I think you'd be missing a golden opportunity if you didn't make it look like:
[23:45] <[Saint]> http://i.imgur.com/ltKSmLK.jpg
[23:46] <[Saint]> parsing scores and teams from an rss feed and rendering such a thing would not be overly difficult at all.
[23:46] <[Saint]> And, actually, would make a fairly fun project.
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[23:47] <[Saint]> every N seconds/minutes/whatever have it switch between $teams
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[23:47] <BenStrike[ATL]> I mean ideally it would just be a self contained screen that would scroll through a bunch of different leagues/sports
[23:48] <[Saint]> Ahhhh, right, in that case, the "stock ticker" type display would be by far the easiest.
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[23:48] <[Saint]> But, I think rendering different professional sports scoreboards would be preeeeeeeetty awesome.
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[23:49] <BenStrike[ATL]> ya that would be cool
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[23:49] <BenStrike[ATL]> what's the easiest way to buy one of these things? kit off amazon?
[23:50] <[Saint]> But just reading a bunch of rss feeds (and parsing for valid info, and trimming, if desired) and scrolling them across an LED matrix cyclically would be by far the easiest to implement.
[23:50] <[Saint]> http://www.raspberrypi.org/products/
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