#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-01-28

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[0:15] <arrakian> woox2k, i had that problem with logitech hd cam when she was little bit more away from router
[0:15] <woox2k> what do you mean?
[0:16] <arrakian> i have 2 webcams. I was C series and one is HD series from logitech. The HD one was loosing signal when Raspi was in front of the house. 1 wall away from router.
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[0:17] <arrakian> so i am guessing its either cause it was far away from router or high quality PIC getting streamed or combination of 2
[0:18] <woox2k> hmm, i don't stream live with motion
[0:18] <arrakian> woox2k, Try to cut down framerate and size of image
[0:18] <arrakian> I was streaming only on local network
[0:18] <woox2k> size is 640x480... pi should surely handle it
[0:18] <woox2k> and fps delay was 4s
[0:18] <arrakian> try to cut it down to defualt size and check
[0:19] <ali1234> when you say it "loses" the camera
[0:19] <ali1234> you mean it doesn't show up on lsusb?
[0:19] <ali1234> and dmesg has lots of USB descriptor errors?
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[0:19] <woox2k> it is still listes but camera shuts off and motion say's it cannot connect to camera
[0:19] <woox2k> i have to restart motion and then it starts working again
[0:20] <arrakian> ali1234, in my case it was showing grey feed
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[0:20] <woox2k> also theres an example of the corrupted image i get from time to time: http://ee.hack.ee/rpi/20150127231614-00.jpg
[0:20] <ali1234> woox2k: this sounds like USB hardware problems, probably not enough power or noisy power supply or some other kind of interference
[0:20] <woox2k> sometimes it's half of the picture and sometimes only one of three color channels
[0:21] <ali1234> arrakian: in your case it's probably too high streaming rate :)
[0:21] <woox2k> i have tried with different usb power devices
[0:21] <arrakian> woox2k, try to connect that camera to PC and see what happens
[0:21] <woox2k> also camera is running on it's own power
[0:21] <arrakian> ali1234, thanks
[0:21] <woox2k> it works just perfectly on my pc
[0:21] <woox2k> with the same motion settings
[0:21] <woox2k> and with even higher fps
[0:22] <woox2k> no curruption or lost feeds
[0:22] <arrakian> woox2k, maybe its camera driver problem... its just pure guess
[0:22] <ali1234> unlikely but possible if it is some really obscure camera
[0:22] <woox2k> it's logitech quickcam so it should be well supported
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[0:23] <ali1234> the raspberry pi camera module works well...
[0:23] <arrakian> sorry bro i helped as much as i could
[0:23] <woox2k> also i'm running 3g modem on the usb as well and it works fine, doesn't sound like a pi hw problem though
[0:23] <ali1234> ah-ha!
[0:24] <ali1234> try putting the 3g modem on a USB extension cable. get it far away from the pi and the camera
[0:24] <ali1234> they put out a lot of RFI, for obvious reasons
[0:24] <woox2k> i ordered a pi cam but it looks like pi cannot even handle 640x480, it might have been a waste :(
[0:24] <woox2k> hmm
[0:25] <ali1234> picam can stream 720p video in real time
[0:25] <woox2k> bad thing is that it doesn't like extensions :D
[0:25] <ali1234> maybe more, i haven't tried pushing it
[0:25] <ali1234> well, try doing a test without the 3g modem
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[0:25] <ali1234> try to eliminate any external causes :)
[0:25] <woox2k> i should do that yeah, i never thought about it!
[0:25] <arrakian> any of you tried sainsmart nightvision camera?
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[0:26] <woox2k> i always thought it's the power but after moving all the devices to external supply i ran out of ideas
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[0:26] <ali1234> 3g uses a lot of power as well
[0:26] <ali1234> more than wifi usually
[0:26] <woox2k> pi is able to handle it apparently
[0:27] <woox2k> but not with camera
[0:27] <ali1234> maybe with just the 3g, yes :)
[0:27] <secrettriangle> Hi, anyone here have node on their raspberry pi?
[0:27] <woox2k> if they both are connected then power led blinks like crazy :D
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[0:27] <woox2k> that's why i took the power from somewhere else
[0:27] <woox2k> no +5 output from the usb is used
[0:27] <ShorTie> model B+ i guess ??
[0:27] <woox2k> yes
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[0:28] <woox2k> running from a car battery but it surely has enough power
[0:28] <ShorTie> did you do the usb power hack ??
[0:28] <woox2k> i don't see why if i don't even use the pi's usb power
[0:28] * lupinedk is now known as Lupinedk
[0:28] <woox2k> like i said i even disconnected the +5v line between pi and usb devices
[0:29] <woox2k> and powered them individually
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[0:29] <ShorTie> blinky power light on B+ says problems with power
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[0:29] <woox2k> like i said it was only blinking when i had the high powered usb devices taking power from the pi
[0:29] <ShorTie> might be worth a try https://projects.drogon.net/testing-setting-the-usb-current-limiter-on-the-raspberry-pi-b/
[0:29] <woox2k> they are not anymore and power doesn't blink at all
[0:30] <ShorTie> to see if it helps
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[0:30] <woox2k> entire thing uses like 3.5W so 1A supply is easily enough
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[0:31] <woox2k> 3.5W from the car battery, including losses in the conversion from 12 to 5
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[0:32] <woox2k> the RFI from the 3g modem is interesting though
[0:32] <woox2k> i must try to move it away from the pi
[0:32] <woox2k> would it help if i shield the pi?
[0:32] <ali1234> i saw a forum thread where someone had RFI issues with a wifi dongle
[0:32] <ali1234> i have no idea, just saying it could be an issue
[0:33] <ali1234> random corruption that happens after it has been running for a while does seem like an impulse noise issue though
[0:33] <woox2k> 3g modems sure spit out a lot of RFI
[0:34] <woox2k> and rpi is not exactly shielded too well :D
[0:34] <woox2k> and it's right next to it
[0:34] <woox2k> camera itself is 1m away
[0:35] <woox2k> must try that tomorrow!
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[0:38] <ShorTie> 1m away is like an antenea, might want to put some extra foil around the wire
[0:38] <ali1234> indeed
[0:38] <woox2k> camera cable is shielded
[0:39] <woox2k> i'm sure of it because i had to break it when rerouting the 5v supply
[0:39] <woox2k> shielded the connections as well ofcourse
[0:39] <ShorTie> don't think you will pickup much rf at the pi, but that 1m antenea sure will
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[0:40] <ali1234> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=91542&start=25
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[0:41] <woox2k> shielded wire should not be as an antenna
[0:42] <woox2k> but can pi get interference from the supply line as well?
[0:42] <woox2k> that is unshielded and also >1m cable
[0:42] <ShorTie> 'but the A+ passes class B FCC and CE EMC by a country mile...'
[0:43] <woox2k> mh then where is the problem then? :S
[0:43] <ali1234> anyway, the thing to do is eliminate as many possible causes as you can
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[0:43] <woox2k> pi sitting in the forest alone is not a good place to start losing camera connections :D
[0:44] <ali1234> that means no 3G at all
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[0:44] <ali1234> is it possible that you have temperature and/or moisture issues?
[0:44] <woox2k> not an option... last sentence explains
[0:44] <Stanto> Huh? what's the problem?
[0:44] <ali1234> do a bench test...
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[0:44] <woox2k> i don't think so, it did the same indoors
[0:44] <woox2k> when i first tried it
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[0:45] <woox2k> i just thought my camera is starting to die
[0:45] <woox2k> then the problem became worse and i ran the camera on my pc seeing it worked just fine
[0:46] <Stanto> "<woox2k> are there any known issues with rpi, usb webcam and motion software?" Yes, the Pi is usually too slow to handle it depending on how fast you're capturing frames and what USB webcam you're using and the resolution you're using it at. "i'm getting some corrupted images with it and quite often it just loses the camera completely" You might want to also check your length on the USB cable (USB2 has a length limit if that's relevant)
[0:46] <Stanto> "woox2k> The same camera/motion combination works perfectly on my desktop" it will do, your desktop's faster than your SDCard/Pi
[0:47] <woox2k> sure but 640x480 @ 0.5 (0.25) fps should be enough even for the pi
[0:47] <Stanto> You'd think so
[0:47] <woox2k> or is the motion software so wasteful?
[0:47] <Stanto> How're you saving the images and what're you using to capture them ?
[0:48] <woox2k> also pi's cpu usage is less than 8% when everything is running
[0:48] <woox2k> motion to capture and it saves pics when theres movement on the screen
[0:48] <Stanto> Saves it to the SDCard ?
[0:49] <woox2k> for a minute or so yes
[0:49] <woox2k> then rsync takes them to my pc over the internet
[0:49] <Stanto> What class is your sd card?
[0:49] <woox2k> class 10
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[0:49] <Stanto> Looking at the graphic you posted: http://ee.hack.ee/rpi/20150127231614-00.jpg - I'm assuming your software is adding the date/time stamp
[0:50] <woox2k> motion is doing that yes
[0:50] <Stanto> So the problem is that the data from your camera is being cut off in transfer
[0:50] <woox2k> when saving files to disk
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[0:50] <woox2k> what do you mean?
[0:50] <ali1234> the picture came in bad from USB, then motion added the timestamp, then it was saved correctly to the SD card
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[0:50] <Stanto> ^ this
[0:50] <ali1234> so it is definitely a USB issue
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[0:51] <woox2k> good point
[0:52] <Stanto> If you have other USB devices connected I'd assume that something either interrupted it (like another usb device) or the usb chip isn't happy. Else it could be a flaw in the driver for either the camera (not handling buffer for the data) or for the USB chip
[0:52] <Stanto> Or some type of odd power saving put it to sleep before it was finished
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[0:52] <woox2k> usb chip is on pi board so that would mean the pi is bad?
[0:52] <Stanto> Pi's USB handling's bad regardless unfortunately
[0:53] <Stanto> Have you tried lowering the resolution and/or using a different webcam?
[0:53] <woox2k> so in that case the problem *should* disappear with pi camera?
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[0:53] <Stanto> In theory
[0:53] <Stanto> yes
[0:53] <woox2k> i haven't yet tried another camera because i cannot use them out of the box, i have to remove he IR filter
[0:53] <woox2k> rendering them inusable in everyday life
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[0:54] <woox2k> i just assumed the camera is fine after it worked on my pc (runs linux as well)
[0:54] <Stanto> Yes but assumably your PC isn't running an ARM processor
[0:55] <Stanto> the binaries are compiled differently, so it isn't using exactly the same driver
[0:55] <ali1234> compiler differences are unlikely to be the problem, USB is too high level for that
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[0:56] <woox2k> ok then i have to try another camera until rpi camers comes in
[0:56] <ali1234> do a bench test without that 3G modem...
[0:56] <Stanto> ali1234, ok, I guess the point I was really making was that someone else probably writ the driver and introduced errors
[0:56] <svm_invictvs> I bet this gets asked allt he time, but how do you take the final unit to production when ready?
[0:56] <Stanto> svm_invictvs, final unit?
[0:57] <svm_invictvs> Stanto: You write your software, you want to have the product fabricated and produced en masse
[0:57] <woox2k> another thing would to try another motion capturing software ... are there any others for pi?
[0:57] <Stanto> svm_invictvs, so you want to distribute software, or hardware?
[0:57] <svm_invictvs> hardware
[0:57] <woox2k> besides motion i mean
[0:58] <Stanto> svm_invictvs, get it produced in prototype, get it safety tested electrically (EC or FCC) and then you could crowdfund it on kickstarter or approach an electronics company like premier farnell
[0:58] <svm_invictvs> Stanto: I'm working with guys who are already funded and making hardware, thinking of moving to a new board platform.
[0:58] <svm_invictvs> Stanto: More looking for estimating the cost of doing that.
[1:00] <Stanto> svm_invictvs, you can approach companies for costs for board manufacture but then it depends on what scale you're talking about
[1:00] <Stanto> If it's 10-100 then that's pretty small.
[1:00] <svm_invictvs> Yeah
[1:00] <svm_invictvs> Who would I talk to?
[1:00] <Stanto> woox2k, opencv maybe?
[1:00] <Stanto> svm_invictvs, well what's the scale ?
[1:01] <svm_invictvs> 1000 units
[1:01] <svm_invictvs> Let's just say
[1:01] <Stanto> If it's a large amount you're looking at possibly Premier Farnell as they are linked with Embest that produce boards for larger companies
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[1:01] <Stanto> larger/chip supplier
[1:02] <svm_invictvs> I see
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[1:02] <Stanto> The first thing companies like them look for is the safety compliance else they're not necessarily interested
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[1:03] <svm_invictvs> Yeah
[1:03] <Stanto> I work for them if you want me to pass on details/get you in touch with the Embest rep
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[1:04] <Stanto> If it's smaller scale, then there's Ragworm in the UK
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[1:26] <RockyTV> I'd like to ask for help, but I'm not sure if this is the right channel to do so?
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[1:27] <abnormal> ask away......
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[1:28] <pksato> RockyTV: if is about raspberry pi, ask.
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[1:28] <RockyTV> yes it is
[1:28] <RockyTV> kernel ver: 3.18.3, trying to install the silicon labs cp210x driver
[1:28] <pksato> or tech related.
[1:29] <RockyTV> does not work. I get the following error: could not insert module cp210x.ko: Invalid module format
[1:29] <pksato> but, some time you not get answer.
[1:30] <Triffid_Hunter> RockyTV: that happens if a different compiler was used to build the module and the kernel, or the module wasn't built against your specific kernel
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[1:30] <RockyTV> I used linux-header 3.10
[1:30] <RockyTV> because the driver itself wouldn't compile with the actual version I'm using
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[1:31] <RockyTV> linux-headers-3.10-3-rpi 3.10.11-1+rpi7
[1:31] <RockyTV> was the one I installed
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[1:31] <Triffid_Hunter> RockyTV: sorry, it must compile against your actual kernel, not against generic linux headers
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[1:31] <Triffid_Hunter> RockyTV: if it won't compile against your actual kernel, you have to modify the code until it does
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[1:33] <RockyTV> damn...
[1:34] <Triffid_Hunter> RockyTV: the generic linux headers are for userspace applications, eg libc and friends
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[1:36] <shiftplusone> if you run uname -a, the problem might become more apparent.
[1:36] <RockyTV> Linux RASPBERRY-PI 3.18.3+ #742 PREEMPT Mon Jan 26 18:27:18 GMT 2015 armv6l GNU/Linux
[1:36] <RockyTV> ?
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[1:37] <shiftplusone> 3.10-3-rpi != 3.18.3+
[1:37] <shiftplusone> short version is that the headers for 3.18.3+ are not currently available.
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[1:38] <evil_dan2wik> hmm
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[1:38] <RockyTV> I know
[1:38] <evil_dan2wik> Would there be any reasons for a Pi to be taking about 30 seconds to connect to using SSH, and 20seconds between entering username before the password prompt appears?
[1:39] <RockyTV> I am also getting that too, evil_dan2wik
[1:39] <pksato> connection dns fqdn timeout.
[1:40] <pksato> login, cpu?
[1:41] <Triffid_Hunter> evil_dan2wik: they're slow. slow disk and slow at encryption handshake and slow at networking
[1:41] <evil_dan2wik> Triffid_Hunter, but my other Pi connects and logs in almost instantly
[1:41] <RockyTV> so uhm, no cp210x driver for me then?
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[1:42] <Triffid_Hunter> evil_dan2wik: I've never had a pi that would ssh quickly
[1:42] <Triffid_Hunter> I actually set up hpn sshd with the null cipher to speed things up on mine
[1:42] <nasuga> Triffid_Hunter: My Pi works fine. Logins instantly.
[1:43] <evil_dan2wik> Triffid_Hunter, My B+ runs a web server and minecraft server for friends and I can connect and get to terminal in less than 10 seconds
[1:43] <ali1234> 10 seconds is not really very good
[1:43] <evil_dan2wik> its better than the minute it takes for my other Pi
[1:44] <RockyTV> I think that it depends on the network interface the Pi is using
[1:44] <ali1234> 1 minute sounds like reverse DNS lookup timeout
[1:44] <RockyTV> when I had mine on Ethernet, it'd connect almost instantly. with WiFi, it takes a few seconds.
[1:44] <evil_dan2wik> ali1234, would that happen in a network without internet?
[1:44] * nasuga has a B+
[1:45] <ali1234> could do yeah
[1:45] <evil_dan2wik> ok, that might be it then
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[1:45] <Triffid_Hunter> if that's the issue, you can turn off reverse dns in sshd config
[1:51] <evil_dan2wik> yes, this works
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[3:05] <RockyTVm> (RockyTVm) hey uhm, tech support needed. I installed the linux-headers for my kernel version (3.18.3), however, still no build directory at /lib/modules/3.18.3+/. do I need to install another package?
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[3:51] <willmore> RockyTV|away, yeah, there should be a -source package as well.
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[3:52] <codepython7771> does anyone know what the TXD and RXD pins are on the gpio?
[3:52] <bytme> what model?
[3:52] <willmore> Wrong channel, codepython7771.
[3:52] <codepython7771> willmore: nope :)
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[3:53] <codepython7771> bytme: http://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/usage/gpio/ - saw them here
[3:53] <bytme> and TXD and RXD do you mean for serial com?
[3:53] <codepython7771> http://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/usage/gpio/images/gpio-led.png
[3:53] <codepython7771> bytme: I think its serial com, just confirming
[3:54] <willmore> looks like 8 and 10
[3:54] <bytme> they are different for the different models. I have 2 B+s
[3:54] <bytme> (I was looking at the same page.) B+ has a new 40 pin GPIO which is different
[3:55] <bytme> No, still 8 and 10. I've actually used them to communicate with a serial GPS
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[3:56] <willmore> http://pi.gadgetoid.com/pinout
[3:56] <codepython7771> bytme: did you have to connect ground?
[3:56] <bytme> I did not
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[3:57] <willmore> bytme, how did you power the GPS?
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[3:57] <bytme> this was a standalone handheld GPS I've had for years
[3:58] <bytme> actually, I'm not sure what I did. I'm almost thinking I was going through serial-to-usb
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[5:00] <sundhaug92> I have a pican-module connected to a network running canopen. I've loaded vcan, can_raw, can, mcp251x, can_dev, spi_config and spi_bcm2708. ifconfig shows IF up and receiving some packages, but it appears to come in batches, often after I reset the IF. Is this normal?
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[5:03] <yehnan> Hello, can I use rpi's camera module on other boards? like Beaglebone?
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[5:05] <SpeedEvil> In principle, yes, if they can use CSI cameras.
[5:05] <SpeedEvil> Most can't.
[5:11] <yehnan> SpeedEvil: thanks. in this link http://www.ics.com/blog/raspberry-pi-camera-module#.VMhhICxR7TQ
[5:12] <yehnan> it says " The camera drivers are proprietary in the sense that they do not follow any standard APIs. "
[5:12] <yehnan> SpeedEvil: so is it possible bring the camera's driver to other Linux distributions?
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[5:13] <yehnan> SpeedEvil: I think no. But not 100% sure because I'm not familiar with the software layer of drivers in linux.
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[5:14] <SpeedEvil> No, that's irrelevant
[5:14] <yehnan> SpeedEvil: driver is irrelevant?
[5:15] <SpeedEvil> you don't care about that at all, because 'no' other devices use the same hardware to read the camera
[5:15] <SpeedEvil> you will need a driver It will not be related to the PI driver.
[5:15] <SpeedEvil> At all.
[5:15] <yehnan> SpeedEvil: ok, image I have a board like Beaglebone and it has CSI. Then what I do?
[5:15] <yehnan> SpeedEvil: I see.. ...allow me to think it over.
[5:16] <SpeedEvil> You get the full camera datasheet and/or some register information, and then you either find a driver for that, or you code one
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[5:17] <SpeedEvil> The camera is sort-of two busses - a low speed and a high speed bus. You properly configure it over the low speed bus, and then configure the CPU hardware camera unit to receive the high speed data
[5:17] <yehnan> SpeedEvil: bingo. I get it. Thanks a lot. And "rpi foundation doesn't release the source code of camera module's driver", is this statement true?
[5:17] <SpeedEvil> That's irrelevant
[5:18] <yehnan> SpeedEvil: just want to know.
[5:18] <SpeedEvil> It doesn't help you at all to use the camera on other devices
[5:18] <yehnan> SpeedEvil: I know that. Still want to be sure.
[5:18] <SpeedEvil> The camera driver runs mostly on the non-public bits of the SoC
[5:18] <SpeedEvil> So no, it's not public
[5:18] <yehnan> SpeedEvil: thanks. :)
[5:19] <SpeedEvil> The Pi camera isn't anything special.
[5:19] <SpeedEvil> It's just a relatively ordinary module on a tiny PCB
[5:21] <yehnan> SpeedEvil: thanks. Have a good day.
[5:21] <SpeedEvil> Thanks, though it's looking unlikely.
[5:22] <sundhaug92> Can GPU-code write to arbitrary memory-addresses?
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[5:23] <SpeedEvil> Seems likely.
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[5:24] <sundhaug92> SpeedEvil: I've seen some code for the rpi-GPU, have you seen anything that can do that?
[5:25] <SpeedEvil> I haven't - but I'm just referring to the general heirarchy.
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[5:27] <sundhaug92> Yeah, SpeedEvil. I'm just worried that someone could escalate access to the GPU to root-access
[5:27] <SpeedEvil> I would say that's almost certain.
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[5:27] <SpeedEvil> Though I have little concrete to base that on.
[5:28] <sundhaug92> Malware on the GPU could remain hidden for quite long as long as you don't reboot
[5:28] <SpeedEvil> It relies on the GPU hardware and drivers being adequately written to prevent it.
[5:28] <SpeedEvil> And - well - while in principle that could be the case - a sane person would want to see actual evidence of that.
[5:29] <sundhaug92> SpeedEvil: But isn't the default user a member of the video-group and thus able to start tasks on the GPU?
[5:30] <SpeedEvil> That doesn't quite mean that they in principle have more than user access to the system - if the hardware and software is properly written and audited.
[5:30] <SpeedEvil> (the GPU driver and GPU hardware)
[5:32] <sundhaug92> Sure, can't a member of video start a compute-shader? If that shader has arbitrary DMA the it's a lost cause
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[5:46] <sundhaug92> looks like it requires a character-node to be made first so not too much an issue
[5:46] <codepython7771> has anyone here made a .1mm connector themselves using crimp connector casings?
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[6:26] <xxValiumxx> boogity boogity boogity amen
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[6:30] <abnormal> lol
[6:30] <abnormal> having fun, eh?
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[6:40] <[Saint]> lol...Joe Nelms.
[6:40] <[Saint]> He's an ummm, interesting fellow.
[6:41] <abnormal> what about Tim Horton?
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[7:08] <yehnan> SpeedEvil: hello, someone asked me a question. Can I install Android on rpi and use rpi's camera module?
[7:08] <SpeedEvil> no idea
[7:08] <[Saint]> No.
[7:08] <SirLagz> yehnan: doubt you can use the RPI camera module on Android
[7:08] <[Saint]> You can barely use Android _at all_.
[7:09] <[Saint]> It runs like a giant bag of crap, to be blunt.
[7:09] <yehnan> [Saint]: I know that. I tried to install android on rpi. very slow.
[7:10] <[Saint]> Broadcom demoed a GPU accelerated build years ago, and it looked great, but tis pretty apparent that its never going to see the light of day.
[7:10] <yehnan> [Saint]: someone just asked such a question. don't quite know the clear way to explain.
[7:10] <[Saint]> likely because it involved a GPU binary they're not willing to distribute.
[7:10] <[Saint]> yehnan: the clearest way is "No."
[7:10] <[Saint]> that's pretty clear. ;)
[7:11] <yehnan> [Saint]: so the rpi's camera module drivers(not open) can be used with Raspbian?
[7:11] <yehnan> [Saint]: well, one word 'no' is not enough. Maybe two or three sentences. :)
[7:12] <[Saint]> yes.
[7:12] <[Saint]> and, its enough for the question you asked.
[7:12] <[Saint]> you asked a simple yes or no question.
[7:12] <yehnan> [Saint]: what about other rpi's linux distributions?
[7:12] <[Saint]> if they asked /why/, then, I agree.
[7:12] <[Saint]> yes.
[7:13] <yehnan> [Saint]: ok, i see. thanks.
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[7:29] <secrettriangle> Anyone here have node on their pi?
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[8:07] <yehnan> [Saint]: hello, someone asked a question again. He wants a dev boaord which can run Android and can use a camera module.
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[8:08] * [Saint] looks around and blinks
[8:09] <[Saint]> This is very strage. Not only am I an intermediary to Google, I'm now a third-party intermediary to Google.
[8:09] <[Saint]> *strange
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[8:11] <[Saint]> Why much he use a camera module when there are literally thousands of USB digital cameras out there?
[8:12] <yehnan> [Saint]: i think usb digital camera is also ok.
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[8:13] <[Saint]> Anyway - I didn't mean to be rude (I just re-read my response), but it basically boils down to "If I wanted to answer queries on whatever forum or blog this is, I would be a member there and do so."
[8:14] <[Saint]> And if that person would like to come here and address either myself or others directly, they are more than welcome to.
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[10:06] <antoon> If the power source were to be too low to power a pi, would the red led (on the back) still be on though?
[10:07] <Xark> antoon: Yes, it will. Not a good indicator of good power AFAIK.
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[10:21] <antoon> Awesome
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[10:57] <scytale> Guys did they roll out patch for glibc?
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[12:21] <RaTTuS|BIG> scytale http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=97887#p679399
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[12:25] <scytale> RaTTuS|BIG, so news portals are jump month behind lol
[12:27] <ShorTie> plugwash gets updates into raspbian just as fast as debian pushes them out normally
[12:27] <RaTTuS|BIG> ? no - that raspbain has been patched AFAIK
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[12:35] <scytale> Guys i need advice. My second RPi just arrived so i was wondering if its better to put new image on microSD or clone from another microSD?
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[12:35] <RaTTuS|BIG> depends - whatever is easier for you ....
[12:36] <RaTTuS|BIG> perosnally I'd go with a new raspbian and follow my notes on setting it up to make sure I know what to do in future - YMMV
[12:39] * ShorTie concures with the note idea
[12:40] <scytale> only major difference is that i update firmware on existing RPi
[12:41] <ShorTie> how so ??
[12:41] <RaTTuS|BIG> only use rpi-update if you really really need to and you know what you are doing
[12:41] <ShorTie> most recent stable version is in apt-get
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[12:45] <scytale> New RPi just arrived 10 minutes ago... And I update first one using rpi-update
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[12:52] <AirForce590> I want to connect my ms sidewinder joystick to my b+ running pimame. It works fine in the menus, but not in advmame. any ideas?
[12:56] <AirForce590> anyone?
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[14:52] <Bilby> the downside to being a Jack of all Trades... when you have to brush up on a skill you used to have but haven't used in a while >_<
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[16:19] <Bilby> yay, finally got 2-way encryption working
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[16:33] <RockyTV> why the 3.18.3+ linux headers are not available on the raspbian's repo?
[16:34] <shiftplusone> because I haven't sorted it out yet.
[16:34] <shiftplusone> and it wouldn't be on the raspbian's repo because raspbian don't build the + kernels. Those come from the raspberry pi foundation.
[16:34] <RockyTV> it's weird because the latest one is 3.10.x
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[17:12] * Bilby wonders if anyone does like he does and basically forgets / remembers different kinds of skillsets as he uses them
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[17:16] <shiftplusone> of course
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[17:20] <shiftplusone> aha... minimal jessie image works well enough... now then... to have another go at redoing the kernel/firmware packaging
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[17:23] <scytale> guys whats replacing command "lspci" on raspberry pi?
[17:24] <nid0> depends on what you want.
[17:24] <shiftplusone> nothing... there's no pci
[17:24] <nid0> the literal answer is lspci
[17:24] <shiftplusone> but there's lsusb and lshw
[17:24] <nid0> it just returns nothing because there's no pci on the pi
[17:25] <scytale> yeah but camera i still connected over camera port so it needs to be something
[17:25] <shiftplusone> it's CSI
[17:25] <shiftplusone> but that has nothing to do with those probing commands
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[17:28] <scytale> shiftplusone, is there any specific program preinstalled for temp monitoring or i can go with gkrellm?
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[17:29] <shiftplusone> you should drop the PC mindset... why do you need to monitor the temperature? Check it once, be satisfied that it's nowhere near high enough to worry about and carry on about your day.
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[17:31] <scytale> shiftplusone, i've got new camera connected with 2 IR lamps so trying to see how much electricity its and heating up the PI
[17:32] <shiftplusone> checking the current is a good idea... using something like gkrellm is a waste of resources. Anyway, vcgencmd measure_temp will tell you the temperature
[17:33] <shiftplusone> 85 is when the SoC will throttle itself to cool down. You probably won't get above 70
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[17:34] <scytale> Pi went up all the way up to 1.25A on outside measuring unit... but actually wondering if there is any internal measuring hardware/software... i am playing with PI for less than a month so i ask million question to anyone who is able to answer
[17:36] <shiftplusone> nope, can't measure the current from the pi itself.
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[17:37] <scytale> oh well USB doctor will have to do for now
[17:37] <shiftplusone> ShorTie, did you run into issues setting the keymap in jessie?
[17:38] <scytale> Thanks for info shiftplusone
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[17:48] <shiftplusone> np
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[19:22] <ShorTie> shiftplusone , keymap in jessie ??
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[20:06] <ShorTie> dpkg-reconfigure console-setup and dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration seem to work ok
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[20:07] <ShorTie> if your trying to use raspi-config, that doesn't even work in whezzy
[20:07] <ShorTie> at least for me that is
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[20:13] <secrettriangle> Anyone here have node on their pi?
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[20:19] <shiftplusone> ShorTie, nope, I was using dpkg-reconfigure which didn't complain but the keymap wouldn't change even after rebooting. =/
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[20:20] <ShorTie> oh, ok, didn't change anything, just ran thru it
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[20:22] <ShorTie> what is in /etc/default/keyboard ??
[20:22] <ShorTie> what you change too, or what was there ??
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[20:27] <shiftplusone> Home now, so... no idea.
[20:27] <shiftplusone> but yeah, I'll go through the other methods. Just figured you might've stumbled across this issue already.
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[20:29] <ShorTie> sorry, nop, i really only change locals and time zone
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[20:44] <_dotsky> Hi
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[21:52] <starkn> Hello people
[21:53] <shiftplusone> hello person
[21:53] <shiftplusone> if that is your real name O_o
[21:53] <starkn> :)
[21:53] <starkn> it feels weird
[21:54] <starkn> no one have thrown the man linux yet
[21:55] <Stanto> ?
[21:56] <starkn> just a joke, dont worry
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[21:57] * starkn tries without big expectations to avoid all the incoming linux, and he fails...
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[22:16] <shiftplusone> Gadgetoid, looks like dt aliases i2c_arm and i2c_vc were added just in case. Doesn't sound like you'll need them, but... it's there.
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[22:21] <Gadgetoid> shiftplusone: thanks for the update!
[22:21] <shiftplusone> np
[22:22] <Gadgetoid> shiftplusone: been busy writing code for new and shiny things, but I will be testing against dt-based kernel ASAP
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[22:33] <woox2k> hello
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[22:39] <starkn> hey, i have a usb hub for my raspberry pi, which i made a power adapter for (5v,2a), do i need to plug the raspberry on it once or twice?
[22:40] <starkn> i mean once only as master of the hub, or once as the master and second as slave so that he gets power from the hub too?
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[22:41] <ShorTie> if it back feeds power, which it's a good idea, then once i guess
[22:41] <starkn> how do i know that it backfeeds power?
[22:41] <ShorTie> hook it up and try it
[22:42] <starkn> yeah, i guess empirical methods would do
[22:42] <shiftplusone> can't backfeed a b+
[22:42] <starkn> its only a regular b
[22:42] <shiftplusone> well you can, but it won't power it up from off state
[22:42] <shiftplusone> ah okay
[22:43] <shiftplusone> you're bypassing input protection, but if the hub backfeeds, it will work
[22:43] <starkn> does that mean that this methode is not safe?
[22:43] <shiftplusone> it's safe enough assuming your power supply isn't terrible.
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[22:46] <starkn> okay
[22:46] <starkn> thank you for your answers
[22:46] <starkn> you were most helpful
[22:46] <shiftplusone> good luck
[22:46] <starkn> one last question though, how do people usually proceed?
[22:46] <shiftplusone> proceed with what? O_o
[22:47] <ShorTie> step 1, plug cord into pi
[22:47] <starkn> i dont mean that
[22:48] <ShorTie> oh, ok
[22:48] <starkn> how do people plug their pi's to get them juice and their peripherals
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[22:48] <starkn> what is the most common setup?
[22:48] <shiftplusone> I would imagine the most common, but not most robust, method is microusb power from a phone charger.
[22:52] <starkn> okay, thank you
[22:52] <ali1234> the micro usb port on the pi is power only right? it can't be a USB device or OTG or anything like that?
[22:52] <shiftplusone> correct
[22:53] <ali1234> ah, but the bi USB port is OTG capable? so that can act as a USB device with correct drivers?
[22:53] <ali1234> *big USB port
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[22:56] <shiftplusone> only on the A/A+ and I don't think anybody has done it.
[22:57] <shiftplusone> In other words, it's only possible in theory. I don't think there's any software support.
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[22:57] <shiftplusone> But it is how the compute module is flashed. You load special firmware on it which turns it into a mass storage device.
[22:57] <ali1234> ah... another reason to prefer the A+ :)
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[23:02] <shiftplusone> on the pi, 'theoretically possible' usually means 'not going to happen unless somebody from the foundation does it'
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[23:05] <blib> how do I use the TXD_B and RXD_B pins as serial port from python?
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[23:06] <ali1234> blib: open /dev/ttyAMA0 and read/write it
[23:06] <shiftplusone> or use pyserial
[23:06] <ali1234> wait, that's the GPIO serial port
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[23:07] <shiftplusone> hm? is *XD_B something else?
[23:08] <ali1234> it might be, i dunno
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[23:08] * shiftplusone is too lazy to pull up the documentation
[23:08] <ali1234> there's another unpopulated serial header on the board isn't there?
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[23:08] <shiftplusone> yeah, but I don't know the specifics
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[23:08] <ali1234> me neither
[23:08] <shiftplusone> wouldn't be surprised if it's undocumented or unpopulated for a reason
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[23:09] <ali1234> it's unpopulated to save 5p on a header
[23:09] <ali1234> if it didn't work at all it wouldn't be on the board
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[23:10] <shiftplusone> could be there only for gpio
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[23:11] <ali1234> i think it is configured as kernel console by default, which means you need to rebuild the kernel to actually use it
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[23:12] <ali1234> no, apparently that's the GPIO header serial port
[23:12] <shiftplusone> and you wouldn't need to rebuild it, just disable it in cmdline
[23:12] <shiftplusone> and inittab
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[23:13] <ali1234> well, only AMA0 shows up in my /dev, so if it does have another serial port, it's not enabled by default - and probably requires a kernel tweak to the board file
[23:14] <shiftplusone> or a driver to be written for it
[23:14] <ali1234> i doubt the SoC uses two different serial port controllers
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[23:15] <ali1234> most likely all that needs to be done is poke the pin mode registers and define the uart memory address
[23:15] <ali1234> assuming it even exists... i dunno
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[23:15] <blib> wow- so using the serial pins on gpio as serial is complicated?
[23:15] <ali1234> no, it's easy
[23:16] <ali1234> we don't know what TXD_B means though
[23:16] <shiftplusone> ali1234, they are definitely different controllers
[23:16] <ali1234> the GPIO serial pins are UART0_TXD and UART0_RXD according to the docs i am looking at
[23:16] <pksato> New stock of rpis on brazilian farnell, A+ US$68, B+ US$106
[23:17] <blib> pksato: that sounds expensive?
[23:17] <ali1234> import fees
[23:17] <pksato> custons.
[23:17] <blib> ali1234: indeed. I am using a gpio that is supposed to be pin compatible with rpi. http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G141578608433&tab_idx=2 - they seem to name the pin as TXD_B and RXD_B - scroll down that link to see the pins
[23:18] <ali1234> blib: that's a totally different SoC. it has the same pin layout on the header, but the way you actually use them might be totally different. so we have no idea, sorry
[23:18] <pksato> B+ with 8GB SD.
[23:18] <shiftplusone> oh.... we don't provide support for non-pi products here and it's definitely not compatible with the pi in any way. You'll want to ask in #odroid
[23:19] <blib> I've a pi as well. I was hoping that the TXD and TXD_B pins behave the same?
[23:20] <blib> would be nice if I did not have to redo the code
[23:20] <ali1234> blib: it's just a matter of opening the right serial port in /dev
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[23:21] <pksato> RPi have only one serial port. but, Two uarts,
[23:21] <shiftplusone> pksato, eh?
[23:22] <pksato> as I know
[23:22] <blib> ali1234: tried both ttyS0 and S2 - those are the ones visible
[23:22] <blib> ali1234: is there a command to list the ttys that might work?
[23:23] <ali1234> blib: you can look at the early boot log
[23:23] * shiftplusone thought all UART is serial, but not all serial is UART....
[23:23] <ali1234> you;re best off asking people who know about odriod though
[23:23] <ali1234> *odroid
[23:23] <ali1234> shiftplusone: nah, you can has a UART connected to SPI, or I2C
[23:24] <ali1234> UART is just an async two way FIFO queue
[23:24] <shiftplusone> So you can have UART which can't do serial?
[23:24] <ali1234> yes
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[23:24] <shiftplusone> oh
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[23:25] <pksato> two UARTs but only one can be used at time.
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