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IRC Log for 2015-02-01

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[0:00] <Lobosque> libc: I can buy a tablet with an extra usb port for that. but I will be using the pi ethernet port to connect to the internet. I wonder if is possible to use a usb<->usb cable to connect the tablet to the pi?
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[0:04] <libc> Lobosque: oh, I misunderstood. I thought you needed a wired connection to the internet and didn't have ethernet... What is the pi connected to in order to access the internet?
[0:05] <libc> Since you're asking I have to assume that whatever it is doesn't have wireless
[0:05] <Lobosque> libc: pi will be connected to a router through ethernet. pi server will talk to cloud server. tablet needs to connect to pi (and pi only, no internet), tablet client will talk to pi server.
[0:06] <Lobosque> correting: to the internet throught a router, lol.
[0:06] <libc> right, and the router doesn't have wireless?
[0:06] <Lobosque> I can't rely on that. so no.
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[0:07] <libc> You could get a wifi dongle for the pi and then set it up as an AP for the tablet
[0:08] <Lobosque> yeah I thought about that. but if I could do it using a wire it would be so much easier and probably more realiable too
[0:09] <libc> idk, IMO it'd be about the same or easier to set up an AP
[0:12] <libc> you could just plug in USB but I'm not sure how you'd set up the network connection, though I supposed it is possible
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[0:36] <SOLIDPIZZA> anyone know of tiny, cost effect projectors
[0:36] <SOLIDPIZZA> effective*
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[0:40] <niston> like this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/UC28-PRO-HDMI-Portable-Mini-LED-Projector-Home-Cinema-Theater-AV-VGA-USB-1080P-/291229870610?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43cea72a12
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[0:43] <SOLIDPIZZA> niston: I was imagining something smaller, perhaps there are none... :/
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[0:44] <niston> this one is even smaller http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pico-Genie-P50-Pro-Ultra-Portable-Nano-Projector-40-Lumens-with-HDMI-VGA-USB-/231374620305?pt=UK_Computing_Sound_Vision_Projectors&hash=item35df008691
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[0:46] <SOLIDPIZZA> "worlds smallest projector" haha
[0:46] <SOLIDPIZZA> I like it
[0:46] <niston> dunno. might be hard to find a smaller one.
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[0:48] <niston> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004CSZVDM/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B004CSZVDM&linkCode=as2&tag=iprojector-20&linkId=IXDSYQ3BJUFHZXDX maybe
[0:48] <niston> http://www.amazon.com/AAXA-Projector-Minute-Battery-Mini-HDMI/dp/B005TAXDPK/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=0K9F7YMSVDF8QK5EK79V
[0:48] <niston> dunno. doubt it gets much smaller than this.
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[0:49] <niston> maybe you could dissect it and remove the audio crap
[0:49] <SOLIDPIZZA> instead of projection. I can maybe just use a screen
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[0:50] <SOLIDPIZZA> i was going to attempt to just use my pi as a computer with the screen projected onto the desk... but maybe it's not a good option
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[0:52] <niston> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-wbOlWa-gk might be fun
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[0:53] <seitensei> niston: the tech showcase at my uni has one of those projected keyboards plugged into a nexus 7 on display
[0:54] <niston> its a neat idea
[0:54] <niston> although me myself, I'd prefer a regular keyboard
[0:54] <niston> but could be cool for portable equipment I guess
[0:54] <niston> or for the sci-fi looks of it perhaps :)
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[0:55] <seitensei> I'd imagine it be pretty slow, since you won't be able to rest your hand on the keyboard
[0:57] <SOLIDPIZZA> it does seem kinda neat actually haha
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[0:57] <niston> could create a "tron legacy" style user interface with a LED projector and this gadget
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[3:02] <yggdrasil> ye
[3:02] <yggdrasil> aye
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[3:06] <AI6K> I have a 16GB SD that got corrupted again by my Pi, and Windows won't recognize it. I remember seeing this before, but last time, Diskpart would fix it. Any hints/advice?
[3:07] <AI6K> I do have a Linux box I could boot up, I've heard that may be the answer?
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[3:08] <AI6K> Right now I'm using a 2GB card, and about the only thing I can do is run Mumble-server, I'm at 41MB left :(
[3:08] <AI6K> Wanted to run SickBeard, but not enough space :(
[3:09] <AI6K> (I do have a network share mounted, but simply need more space)
[3:09] <djhworld> do you need to recover data from it
[3:11] <shiftplusone> AI6K: it's not a 16GB Samsung card you got from newegg or amazon by any chance, is it?
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[3:15] <AI6K> I do NOT need to recover any data.
[3:15] <AI6K> It does say samsung, and it's been working for a couple years, but just failed a few days ago.
[3:16] <plugwash> personally i'd put the card in a linux box and see what it sees
[3:16] <AI6K> Yea, think I'll boot up the tower.
[3:17] <AI6K> Doubtful it's from newegg or amazon, probably Costco.
[3:17] <Stanto> AI6K, how've you tried altering it in windows?
[3:17] <Stanto> Out of interest.
[3:17] <AI6K> I tried diskpart
[3:17] <djhworld> format it ans start again
[3:18] <AI6K> It fails when I try to format it.
[3:18] <AI6K> I/O error sometimes.
[3:18] <Stanto> Could be that your Pi didn't corrupt it but your card is failing.
[3:19] <Stanto> Unless it's showing up in Disk Management in Microsoft Management Console.
[3:19] <AI6K> That's possible, I could just go buy another card from Costco, I'll be there tomorrow grocery shopping.
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[3:19] <Stanto> But if it keeps doing it, and you're not particularly doing anything to the Pi, then I'd suspect the sd card.
[3:19] <Stanto> By doing anything I'd mean such as hotplugging USB devices on a model A/B
[3:19] <AI6K> I just put in in my Win8 box, and it said it needed to be formatted. So tried a quick format, and 'Windows was unable to complete the format)
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[3:20] <Stanto> AI6K, that would either be Windows trying to format the linux partition and failing because the SDCard has gone into read only mode or it just can't handle the file allocation table of the SDCard due to corruption.
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[3:23] <Stanto> I'm not sure if you said whether or not it still had identifiable partitions on the sdcard
[3:23] <AI6K> Ok, Disk Management sees it. 56MB raw partition and 14.68GB unallocated.
[3:24] <AI6K> Won't let me delete the raw partition :(
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[3:25] <Stanto> AI6K there's a free tool called Active Partition Manager that works well.
[3:25] <Stanto> version 2.6.5 is what I use - I think there may be more recent versions but they don't seem as nice.
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[3:26] <Stanto> http://www.pcdisk.com/download.html you can grab version 4 at least.
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[3:40] <AI6K> Diskpart has encountered an error. IO device error.
[3:40] <AI6K> Thanks Stanzo, will check it out.
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[4:14] <SOLIDPIZZA> can you use a monochrome lcd with linux?
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[4:16] <SOLIDPIZZA> I think I would need to write a program for it
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[4:28] <seitensei> SOLIDPIZZA: Depends
[4:29] <AfterDarkness> hello everyone. I have a question does the apt-get install, downloads the binary files or the source code and compiles it
[4:29] <seitensei> AfterDarkness: binaries
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[4:30] <AfterDarkness> that is pretty stupid from me...
[4:30] <[Saint]> that's ain't gentoo
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[4:30] <[Saint]> Though, hilariously, people do run gentoo on the pi
[4:30] <[Saint]> Why?
[4:30] * [Saint] shrugs
[4:31] <AfterDarkness> I have seen a video the guy used apt-get to install chromuniom on the pi how is that possible?
[4:31] <AfterDarkness> I don't own a pi so I don't know
[4:31] <AfterDarkness> are they using diffrenet repos?
[4:31] <seitensei> AfterDarkness: because someone compiled a Chromium build
[4:32] <[Saint]> nah.
[4:32] <[Saint]> its a default package.
[4:32] <AfterDarkness> I feel a bit embarrassed :)
[4:32] <[Saint]> apt-get install chromium-browser
[4:32] <[Saint]> boom
[4:32] <[Saint]> it'll run like a leper, though.
[4:32] <[Saint]> a one legged one at that.
[4:32] <seitensei> without toes
[4:32] <[Saint]> indeed
[4:33] <AfterDarkness> [Saint], obv it is not the default repo
[4:33] <AfterDarkness> xD are you guys making fun of me
[4:33] <[Saint]> AfterDarkness: huh?
[4:33] <seitensei> AfterDarkness: Nope, Chromium-browser is in the raspbian repos, just like how it's in debian's repos
[4:33] <[Saint]> ^ this
[4:34] <AfterDarkness> then I don't know how the server side work on apt-get
[4:34] <[Saint]> I'm not sure what you're trying to say...
[4:34] <[Saint]> I seems you're confused. About what? I have no idea.
[4:34] <seitensei> AfterDarkness: There's a repository with an index file
[4:35] <seitensei> apt-get checks the index file, which tells it where to get the package
[4:35] <AfterDarkness> I am confused about how apt-get work
[4:35] <seitensei> it gets the package
[4:35] <seitensei> which includes instructions on how to install it
[4:35] <AfterDarkness> okay so the index is downloaded with apt-get update right
[4:35] <AfterDarkness> it downloaded only the packages which support armv6
[4:36] <AfterDarkness> or x86 if it is on x86
[4:36] <seitensei> And all the software on the raspbian repo is armv6
[4:36] <AfterDarkness> ofc
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[4:37] <[Saint]> There's a script that pulls from the debian repos and recompiles if necessary, then it ends up in the raspbian repos.
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[4:37] <[Saint]> which is why its always ~12h behind or so
[4:37] <[Saint]> the upshot is it "just works"
[4:37] <AfterDarkness> I see
[4:38] <[Saint]> all that magic happens server side and we don't need to care about it.
[4:38] <AfterDarkness> that leads to this question, did apt-get get recompiled on armv6?
[4:39] <[Saint]> it didn't need to be.
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[4:40] <seitensei> AfterDarkness: apt-get doesn't get compiled by your pi, if that's what you're asking
[4:40] <[Saint]> Here we go, the slight clarification on why I'm technically wrong that doesn't matter at all from a user's perspective.
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[4:40] <AfterDarkness> no I am asking about the process making linux work on armv6
[4:40] <AfterDarkness> [Saint], xD
[4:40] <seitensei> AfterDarkness: apt-get got compiled for armv6 at some point, along with all the core components of the raspbian distro
[4:41] <AfterDarkness> I see
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[4:42] <seitensei> If you're specifically wondering about how it happens at an earlier stage, it's not pretty :x
[4:42] <plugwash> heh
[4:42] * seitensei is tired of writing mips
[4:42] <seitensei> :x
[4:42] <AfterDarkness> xD I figured I was just confused about couple of things I wanted to correct my info
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[4:44] <seitensei> luckily, someone at some point spent a great deal of time writing an assembler for arm, so i don't have to bother writing any assembly code for the pi
[4:44] <[Saint]> MIPS? Uuuugh.
[4:44] <[Saint]> I'd rather open an artery.
[4:45] <AfterDarkness> I suppose I should get a raspberry to learn about arm more
[4:46] <[Saint]> The 'problem' there, so to speak, is then you get stuck on what is, for lack of a better way of putting it, a completely dead architecture.
[4:47] <[Saint]> Were it not for the pi, almost exclusively, pretty much no one would care about ARMv6 at all today.
[4:47] <[Saint]> It was well on its way to a quiet death before this mass revival.
[4:47] <[Saint]> And many would argue it should've stayed that way.
[4:48] <ozzzy> it's a development board... the processor is irrelevant
[4:48] <[Saint]> That's a bold statement.
[4:48] <AfterDarkness> the newer arm architectures would be compatible with armv6 I imagine no?
[4:49] <ozzzy> it's a learning tool.... that's all
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[4:49] <AfterDarkness> ozzzy, I disagree on ces I saw a lot of applications for arm other than phones
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[4:50] <ozzzy> The Raspberry Pi is a credit card-sized single-board computer developed in the UK by the Raspberry Pi Foundation with the intention of promoting the teaching of basic computer science in schools.
[4:50] <ozzzy> you can use it for whatever you want... but that is it's purpose
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[4:51] <seitensei> <AfterDarkness> the newer arm architectures would be compatible with armv6 I imagine no?
[4:51] <AfterDarkness> ?
[4:51] <ozzzy> I've never had a 'phone' so I have no idea what arms do in them
[4:52] <seitensei> That's not necessarily important to consider, unless you plan on coding at a lower level/on bare metal, I'd say
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[4:52] <[Saint]> ozzzy: they hug you back then you make a phone call
[4:52] <seitensei> As a linux device, most of your code is going to be based in c/c++ anyhow, and all it takes is an assembler that changes that to machine code
[4:52] <[Saint]> tiny little face cuddles.
[4:52] <plugwash> For the most part armv6 binaries will run fine on armv7 systems, there are a few corner cases where that is not true
[4:52] <AfterDarkness> ozzzy, that might be its essential purpose, anyway I was talkin about ARM architecture. lol at the arm thing :)
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[4:53] <plugwash> though I don't think i've ever run into one of those corner cases in practice
[4:53] <AfterDarkness> seitensei, I know, but I was wondering if a recompiling would be needed
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[4:54] <AfterDarkness> I mean, i don't need to recompile my program for haswell to make it work on broadwell
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[4:54] <AfterDarkness> assuming it is on windows
[4:55] <AfterDarkness> i mean the same platform
[4:55] <AfterDarkness> oh plugwash I didnt see your comment
[4:56] <seitensei> AfterDarkness: in the case of haswell and broadwell, you're not making any changes (like ARMv6 to ARMv7)
[4:56] <AfterDarkness> I see
[4:56] <plugwash> and I don't think C compilers can produce output that sits in said corner cases, we are talking handwritten assembler exploiting obscure cpu features
[4:56] <plugwash> certainly we build the binaries for raspbian on armv7 hardware and they run fine on the buildboxes
[4:57] <ozzzy> embed some ASM and they can =)
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[5:01] <AfterDarkness> ozzzy, I am not sure if I can compare controllers with desktop cpus or ARM but pic 16 instruction set would work on a bigger instruction set pic
[5:03] <AfterDarkness> ever since I worked on pic I have thought that this was the case with all CPUs because it makes since to make them this way
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[5:04] <AfterDarkness> ozzzy, are you from Australia?
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[5:06] <plugwash> ozzzy, well techincally yes but in general upstreams care more about armv7 than armv6 so the chances of them writing inline assembler that works on armv6 but not armv7 is pretty negligable
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[5:18] <ozzzy> AfterDarkness, nope
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[5:52] <trohrt> I'm running raspbian. Whenever I play a video, subtitles won't display, and after i play a video once, omxplayer won't display any audio or video until I reboot.
[5:52] <trohrt> Has anyone had this issue also?
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[7:00] <triogenes> hey guys - is there a canonical place you point people when they start flailing about asking about netflix?
[7:01] <ApolloJustice> www.lmgtfy.com
[7:01] <ApolloJustice> i send everyone who asks easily-googleable questions there
[7:01] <triogenes> well i've been reading tons of things from googling
[7:01] <ApolloJustice> i even wrote a plugin that lets me do /lmgtfy search terms here and it will give me a LMGTFY url ready to copy and paste into a message
[7:02] <ApolloJustice> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=triogernes+hi+there
[7:02] <triogenes> all somewhat dated. but i know netflix support has come to linux very recently
[7:02] <ApolloJustice> yup, with Chrome
[7:02] <ApolloJustice> not chromium
[7:02] <ApolloJustice> so nothing relevant to the Pi yet
[7:02] <triogenes> right, so - correct me if i'm wrong, never used a pi. but what stops people from doing something like x-forwarding over ssh?
[7:03] <ApolloJustice> nothing i guess
[7:03] <ApolloJustice> i was talking more of natively using netflix over Kodi/etc.
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[7:42] <seitensei> time to build golang
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[8:00] <[Saint]> Hahahahaha
[8:00] <[Saint]> "Waterboarding at Guantanamo Bay sounds super rad if you don't know what either of those things are."
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[8:02] <shiftplusone> jesus
[8:02] <shiftplusone> a little messed up, but... true.
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[8:04] <[Saint]> That was my "I'm gonna go to Hell for this" chuckle for today.
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[8:22] <seitensei> [Saint]: lol
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[9:13] <foul_owl> Hi folks. Anyone have a Bitscope?
[9:13] <foul_owl> Sorry wrong channel
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[9:16] <ShorTie> http://www.raspberrypi.org/bitscope-micro/
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[10:20] * ShorTie thinkz, woohoo got procmail workin .. :)~
[10:21] <ShorTie> now i need an led, lol.
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[10:25] <[Saint]> hijack the activity LED.
[10:26] <ShorTie> thats an idea
[10:26] <ShorTie> Thankz .. :)~
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[14:15] <turtlehat> can anyone point me in the direction of an introductory project to working with C and gpio on the pi?
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[14:17] <ShorTie> wiringPi.com
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[14:17] <turtlehat> thanks shortie
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[14:31] <raboof> hi! i want to measure temperature and got http://www.dx.com/p/ds18b20-digital-temperature-sensor-module-for-arduino-55-125-c-135047
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[14:32] <raboof> i understand for a regular DS18B20 I need to add a 4k7 resistor, but I see there's a small led and resistor already on that board
[14:32] <raboof> do I still need to add one?
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[14:34] <ShorTie> 'small led and resistor already on that board' that is a power indicator
[14:35] <ShorTie> so yes the the 4.7k
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[14:35] <raboof> ok thanks!
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[14:40] <turtlehat> apt-get says "Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead."
[14:40] <turtlehat> how do i update those`?
[14:41] <ShorTie> most likely just a server down
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[14:42] <ShorTie> try again in a few
[14:43] <turtlehat> alright
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[14:44] <ShorTie> seems ok for me now, if not for you, which 1 is it ??
[14:45] <turtlehat> yea its up now i think
[14:45] <turtlehat> its http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/
[14:45] <ShorTie> �k�� ��K��
[14:46] <turtlehat> thankie
[14:46] <shiftplusone> turtlehat: you should really provide the full output rather than a tiny snippet.
[14:48] <turtlehat> yea
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[14:50] <ShorTie> does the B+ always blink the act light, or is sumfin going on i don't know about ??
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[14:51] <ShorTie> it's a preaty steady blink, very quick/faint, but it's there
[14:52] <shiftplusone> ShorTie: on SD card activity (so things like logging will keep it flashing)
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[14:54] <ShorTie> it's a preaty stead blink for logging, would that show up in top ??
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[14:55] <ShorTie> i'd consider it a heart beat it's so steady
[14:55] <shiftplusone> there is a heartbeat feature, but I don't know if that's on by default
[14:55] <shiftplusone> you could use iotop, perhaps.
[14:58] <ShorTie> iotop is showing no activity
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[14:59] <Vanfanel> hi! Do you guys know where can I find DISPMANX documentation?
[15:00] <Vanfanel> I need help with vc_dispmanx_update_submit(), because the callback function I pass to it is not called
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[15:03] <shiftplusone> heh.... documentation.
[15:04] <shiftplusone> the hello_dispmanx example is it
[15:04] <Vanfanel> shiftplusone: great, but it doesn't use vc_dispmanx_update_submit_sync(), not vc_dispmanx_update_submit()
[15:05] <shiftplusone> Yup
[15:05] <Vanfanel> shiftplusone: I mean, it uses vc_dispmanx_update_submit_sync(), not vc_dispmanx_update_submit()
[15:05] <Vanfanel> I need a vc_dispmanx_update_submit() example
[15:05] <shiftplusone> if you send me a testcase, I can take a look at it some during the week
[15:05] <Vanfanel> that works
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[15:05] <shiftplusone> *some time
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[15:06] <shiftplusone> or open an issue on github
[15:06] <Vanfanel> shiftplusone: that's a good idea: the funny thing is that I opened a related issue two years ago and it seems that vc_dispmanx_update_submit() was working as expected by then...
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[15:13] <ShorTie> must be enabled i guess, new image sitting at raspi-config and it's still blinking
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[15:17] <ShorTie> cat /sys/class/leds/led0/trigger
[15:17] <ShorTie> none [mmc0] timer oneshot heartbeat backlight gpio cpu0 default-on
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[15:27] <igraltist> hi
[15:27] <igraltist> my pi does only show 256mb ram insteed of 512MB
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[15:28] <igraltist> where can i tweak the memorey?
[15:28] <shiftplusone> set gpu_mem to 16 in config.txt, I'm guessing.
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[15:33] <igraltist> in config.txt i have: gpu_mem=16
[15:33] <igraltist> hdmi_drive=2
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[15:34] <ShorTie> what model pi is it ??
[15:34] <igraltist> the b
[15:34] <igraltist> its a problem with the raspyfi distro i guess
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[15:35] <igraltist> at moment i do an upgrade so maybe after reboot i will see
[15:38] <ShorTie> what revision does 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' show ??
[15:40] <igraltist> http://paste.debian.net/143356/
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[15:42] <ShorTie> ya, says it suppose to have 512 000e Q4 2012 B 2.0 512MB (Mfg by Sony)
[15:43] <ShorTie> some early B's didn't, was just check`n
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[15:50] <Vanfanel> shiftplusone: found the problem, I wasn't passing the callback function with () at the end in vc_dispmanx_update_submit()
[15:50] <Vanfanel> shiftplusone: stupid me in the end :P
[15:50] <shiftplusone> heh
[15:50] <shiftplusone> happens
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[15:51] <Vanfanel> shiftplusone: I'm trying to implement a triple buffering mechanism using dispmanx (all my projects and contributions are free, of course). Have you played around with that kind of things?
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[15:53] <shiftplusone> Nope, unfortunately not.
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[15:53] <Vanfanel> *free = open and free :D
[15:53] <Vanfanel> shiftplusone: thanks anyway, it's VERY hard to find someone who even knows what dispmanx is...
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[15:55] <igraltist> ShorTie: after upgrade its working
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[15:56] <shiftplusone> np
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[16:11] <lb5tr> Hi, how can I know the physicall address of PWM controler in bcm2835?
[16:11] <lb5tr> I can't find it in the datasheet
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[16:16] <Bremsstrahlung> Hi, all.
[16:16] <Bremsstrahlung> So, in a nutshell, I was thinking of maybe purchasing a Raspberry Pi. What are the things I can do with it?
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[16:19] <ShorTie> oh way cool, it works, lol.
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[16:19] <Bremsstrahlung> lol
[16:19] <ShorTie> text Startup from my phone and it turns the ACT light on
[16:20] <ShorTie> text Stop and it shuts it off
[16:20] <ShorTie> 'What are the things I can do with it?' about any thing your little heart desires
[16:21] <ShorTie> l@@k what i just got it to do
[16:22] <pwillard> wow... I thought bluetooth would be easier on Raspian... :(
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[16:38] <niston> ah
[16:38] <niston> Bremsstrahlung :)
[16:38] <Bremsstrahlung> \o
[16:39] <niston> certain benefits come with the berrypie's GPIO ports
[16:39] <niston> another benefit is that it is very small and consumes very little electrical power
[16:40] <niston> so if you've ever dreamed of working some embedded project that needs a computer inside, there you go
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[16:46] <niston> of course its also, unlike for example a BASIC stamp, a Linux computer, meaning you can program it in Python. Or C. Or C#, for that matter.
[16:46] <niston> rapid prototyping ftw!
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[16:49] <niston> here's what niston built from a berry pi: https://niston.wordpress.com/2014/10/10/niston-stream-one/
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[18:50] <turtlehat> is there some way to fix it so i dont have to use sudo with my c programs in which i use the wiringpi library?
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[19:00] <abnormal> try su instead of sudo
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[19:01] <turtlehat> abnormal, i meant so an unpriveledged user is able to run the program
[19:01] <turtlehat> or normal user, or whatitscalled
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[19:02] <abnormal> hmmm
[19:02] <abnormal> su is the rootest of the root user..
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[19:07] <turtlehat> yea, i know, its not that im annoyed that i have to log in as root to test it, but i want to be able to run it without logging in as root
[19:07] <turtlehat> can i add gpio capabilities to my normal user?
[19:07] <turtlehat> isnt there some trick for that?
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[19:08] <turtlehat> if i write gpio readall with my normal user, it reads all with no complaints
[19:08] <turtlehat> so i figure there is some way to do that
[19:08] <ShorTie> this thread might help http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=119218#p119218
[19:09] <turtlehat> ahhh thanks again shortie
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[19:09] <abnormal> ty, ShorTie
[19:10] <ShorTie> don't thank me, i'm just the middle man to Mr.Google is all
[19:10] <ShorTie> Laughs Out Loud
[19:11] <turtlehat> im "killing" the messenger in this case ;)
[19:11] <abnormal> lol
[19:13] <ShorTie> he has answers for the world, just gotta ask the right question, which canbe hard at times
[19:13] <abnormal> tell me about it.. most of you are way ahead of me anyways...
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[19:16] <ShorTie> i end up with 20 brower windows each with atleast a hafe dozen tabs sometimes when l@@kin for stuff
[19:17] <turtlehat> yea same here, its mostly the terminology that gets in the way
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[19:23] <pvinis> i tied
[19:23] <pvinis> oops
[19:23] <pvinis> i tried making a 2x2 led matrix, and connected a 9V battery for power
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[19:23] <ShorTie> tied the knot, poor poor man
[19:24] <pvinis> but when all 4 are on, they are very very dim
[19:24] <pvinis> is that normal?
[19:24] <pvinis> shouldnt 9V battery be enough for 4 leds? oO
[19:24] <Tachyon`> it should, it depends how you wired them
[19:24] <ShorTie> may not
[19:24] <Tachyon`> you had a resistor for each LED
[19:24] <Tachyon`> rather than for all four aye?
[19:25] <pvinis> i had a resistor for each line
[19:25] <pvinis> so for 2 leds 1 resistor
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[19:25] <Tachyon`> er, well, that'd certainly make them dimmer if more were on...
[19:25] <ShorTie> leds in series or parallel ??
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[19:27] <ShorTie> you could play with the size of the resistor to see if they will brighten up
[19:28] <ShorTie> 1 led = 330 ohm, 2 led more like 150 ohm
[19:29] <ShorTie> need to Tim Taylor it, and give it more juice, hehe.
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[19:33] <pvinis> so
[19:33] <pvinis> so should i have a 330Ohm per led?
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[19:35] <pvinis> if i wanna have one resistor per line, then by default, when one led is lit up it will be brighter than two on the same line, right?
[19:35] <ShorTie> 330 ohm is for more for 3.3v, 470 ohm for like 5v
[19:35] <pvinis> cause each line is serially connected
[19:35] <ShorTie> what size you got in there now ??
[19:36] <pvinis> lol just got the tim taylor joke btw
[19:36] <pvinis> now i had 100 ohm
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[19:36] <pvinis> for 2 leds
[19:37] <ShorTie> is this just like Bat+ -- led1 -- led2 -- resistor -- Bat-
[19:38] <pvinis> when i put it like you say
[19:38] <pvinis> everything is bright
[19:38] <ShorTie> �k�� ��K��
[19:38] <pvinis> but then i put a transistor, and all goes dim
[19:38] <ShorTie> but ??
[19:39] <pvinis> basically i got this
[19:39] <pvinis> http://www.armory.com/~spcecdt/electronics/LED_matrix/LED_matrix_schem.gif
[19:39] <pvinis> but with one level of resistors on each axis
[19:39] <pvinis> and 9V
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[19:40] <ShorTie> transistor is dropping the voltage and pulling some current then i would think
[19:41] <ShorTie> got any smaller resistors ??
[19:41] <pvinis> a ok
[19:41] <pvinis> how much?
[19:41] <pvinis> how much lower?
[19:41] <pvinis> also, if i put lower resistors, then when one led is on, it will be very very bright or maybe fried?
[19:41] <pvinis> or no?
[19:42] <ShorTie> if it is alot dimmer, try like a 50 maybe
[19:43] <ShorTie> could, so it's ok if you only turn 1 led on, is that what your saying ??
[19:43] <pvinis> i want to be able to light each led individually, and also many at the same time
[19:44] <pvinis> so for this to work i need one resistor for each led?
[19:44] <ShorTie> got a volt meter ??
[19:44] <pvinis> yea
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[19:46] <ShorTie> to check if it is the battery, check voltage with 1 led and then 2, see what the difference is
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[19:46] <pvinis> one sec
[19:47] <ShorTie> i see they are using 12v@1.5amp, don't think your very close to that with a 9v battery
[19:47] <ShorTie> not sure the current handling capacity of a 9v is
[19:48] <pvinis> mmm
[19:49] <pvinis> with one led and 100 ohm resistor i get 8V
[19:49] <pvinis> from the voltometer
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[19:53] <ShorTie> and with 2, it kills his connection
[19:53] <ShorTie> Just Kidding
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[19:54] <[Saint]> He added resistors until the mass became so dense it triggered the singularity.
[19:56] <pvinis> if i put 2 leds parallel i get 8V from the meter
[19:56] <pvinis> and 2 leds serial i get 7V
[19:56] <pvinis> so what does that mean?
[19:57] <Syliss> hmm i need to find a bt adaptor for my ps3 controllers so i can hook them up to my pi
[19:57] <Syliss> prolly should get a newer pi too
[19:57] <[Saint]> there's really very little need to.
[19:58] <ShorTie> battery really doesn't have the current capacity to keep the voltage up
[19:58] <[Saint]> the differences are negligible.
[19:58] <[Saint]> Syliss: ^
[19:58] <[Saint]> If you current pi works for you, keep it.
[19:58] <[Saint]> If you want to spent ~$35 on another SBC, don't make it a pi.
[19:58] <Syliss> lol
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[19:59] <Syliss> i have the first gen/run of pis
[19:59] <Syliss> the b with 256mb ram
[19:59] <[Saint]> I say that in the nicest possible way, with all due respect to RPF, but there's clearly better alternatives.
[19:59] <[Saint]> Have a look at the ODROID C1.
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[19:59] <Syliss> yeah but price wise
[19:59] <[Saint]> Its almost identical.
[19:59] <[Saint]> Did you look?
[20:00] <Syliss> i just pulled it up
[20:00] <[Saint]> Prepare to be amazed.
[20:00] <Syliss> am at work so delayed looking at stuffs
[20:04] <Syliss> yeah decent, but damn not on amazon yet
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[20:15] <Syliss> id prefer something that can be powered over usb tho
[20:17] * ShorTie thinkz, adapter cable maybe
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[20:17] <willmore> rPi failed again with mmc block read/write errors. :(
[20:17] <willmore> I'm starting to think it's the pi.
[20:18] <willmore> Maybe I'll have to swap in one of the B+'s for it. :(
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[20:18] <willmore> Oh, well. It's reliable enough for messing around with, just not 'production' use.
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[20:49] <Flipo> Hello, anyone has an idea on how I could update libc6 to 2.17 (the one on the pi is 2.13)
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[20:53] <ShorTie> why ??
[20:53] <Flipo> ShorTie: I want to install a package that needs lb6c 2.14 or higher
[20:53] <ShorTie> the latest security fix is in what is in apt-get
[20:55] <ShorTie> oh, 2 choice i guess then, compile yourself or try jessie, not sure what is in it
[20:55] <Flipo> ShorTie: where can I find jessie installs ?
[20:56] <ShorTie> Debian fixed the upgrade to jessie, so all you have to do is go into sources.list and change to it
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[20:57] <ShorTie> then the old update/upgrade/dist-upgrade
[20:57] <ShorTie> but it does take a few
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[20:58] <ShorTie> and i'd suggest to install the new lightdm.conf when asked that question
[20:58] <Flipo> thanks will try
[20:59] <ShorTie> if you want auto login in back
[20:59] <ShorTie> it's 'sudo sed -i 's/#autologin-user=/autologin-user=pi/' /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
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[21:02] <Flipo> nice seems like it's version 2.19 in jessie
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[21:08] <ShorTie> Cool
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[21:34] <Encapsulation> can someone tell me where I went wrong? http://pastebin.com/TAiGswVK
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[21:43] <l_r> Encapsulation, void start(int m); is not defined?
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[21:50] <ShorTie> m is defined, but not set to anything is my thinkin'
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[21:54] <ShorTie> but then again you got 'void start(' twice
[21:54] <ShorTie> and '};' looks goofy too...
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[22:06] <turtlehat> void start that takes an int and void start that takes no arguments looks fine afaik
[22:07] <turtlehat> but if m == 1, then why print m?, why not just write 1 in your string?
[22:07] <ShorTie> never heard of using the same name twice though
[22:07] <turtlehat> yea if you want to have with different number of arguments
[22:07] <turtlehat> but theres no body for the version that takes an int as argument
[22:08] <turtlehat> however, yes, m in the case of "start()" is not set
[22:08] <turtlehat> not initialized
[22:08] <turtlehat> but when calling motor.start(1); nothing happens
[22:08] <turtlehat> cause that version has no body
[22:09] <turtlehat> void start(int m);
[22:09] <ShorTie> l@@ks to it might be better to set it up as a real program with a .h and .c
[22:09] <turtlehat> should have been; void start(int m) { /* body goes here*/ }
[22:10] <ShorTie> but i'm just a dum chicken farmer, what do i know
[22:10] <turtlehat> using seperate header and source files are confusing when youre a beginner
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[22:10] <turtlehat> its fine to do that later, it doesnt interfere with the program function
[22:11] <turtlehat> imho ;)
[22:12] <turtlehat> try this, Encapsulation: http://hastebin.com/oxadilequm.cpp
[22:12] <ShorTie> c/p is my art of programming, hehe.
[22:12] <turtlehat> hehe ok
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[22:14] <turtlehat> should read "Motor1Started" before quitting
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[22:20] <ShorTie> maybe try printing out m as like the first thing of start to see if it is getting thru
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[22:22] <ShorTie> like printf("m = %d",m); or how ever it goes
[22:23] <turtlehat> cout << "this is printed";
[22:24] <turtlehat> btw ##c++--general has a bot that can evaluate c++ as you go
[22:24] <ShorTie> ya but, that after your if
[22:24] <ShorTie> check m before if so you know what it is going in, is what i'm thinkin
[22:25] <ShorTie> check/print
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[22:25] <ShorTie> printf's are great for debugging, imho
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[22:26] <turtlehat> http://ideone.com/QvOKXl
[22:26] <turtlehat> compiles fine
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[22:27] <ShorTie> how you hooking the motor up to the pi ??
[22:28] <ShorTie> most motor stuff i'm seeing is using softpwm
[22:28] <turtlehat> this piece of code that Encapsulation posted isnt using any function in wiringpi
[22:28] <turtlehat> only std c++ and iostream
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[22:39] <ShorTie> simple thing amuses me .. :/~
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[23:04] <v0latil3> AH
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[23:05] <v0latil3> anyone have any idea whats wrong with this? http://imgh.us/leds_bb_2.svg ? The battery is really a 5v power supply. I'm using this bus buffer with the raspberry pi because it has 3.3v not 5v, which the leds need https://www.adafruit.com/images/product-files/1787/1787AHC125.pdf
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[23:08] <pksato> v0latil3: you breadboad is same as from image?
[23:08] <v0latil3> pksato, yes
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[23:08] <pksato> have saperation on power lines?
[23:09] <v0latil3> yeah
[23:09] <v0latil3> the far 2 bottom rows with the blue and red stripes you mean?
[23:09] <pksato> on some breadboard, power lines are not continuos.
[23:09] <v0latil3> oh fuck
[23:09] <v0latil3> wow im blind
[23:09] <v0latil3> all this touble
[23:10] <pksato> need to interconnect this lines.
[23:10] <pksato> but, check with multimeter.
[23:10] <pksato> or led+resistor+bat
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[23:11] <pksato> 125 are correct wired,
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[23:12] <pksato> but, I not check to Rpi.
[23:12] <SOLIDPIZZA> I think I fried my gpios in the past :/
[23:12] <SOLIDPIZZA> good reason to buy the new pi at least haha
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[23:17] <v0latil3> pksato, what do you mean 125?
[23:18] <v0latil3> :( i fixed the power but its still not working
[23:18] <pksato> 74HCT125
[23:18] <v0latil3> i think this website is correct http://pi.gadgetoid.com/pinout/pin22_gpio25
[23:19] <pksato> use led + resistor as logic/signal probe.
[23:20] <v0latil3> pksato, ok
[23:21] <v0latil3> also lol i was wrong the power rails are continous
[23:21] <v0latil3> it just looks like they arent
[23:24] <v0latil3> pksato, is a red led and 220 ohm resistor right?
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[23:24] <pksato> y
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[23:26] <freezer> hi
[23:27] <freezer> can someone recommend a fast sdcard for the RPi rev1?
[23:27] <freezer> (one that i can pick up in a local store)
[23:28] <ShorTie> fast ??
[23:28] <ShorTie> anything over a c6 is a waste
[23:29] <freezer> hmm
[23:29] <freezer> my last Sandisk 8GB suddenly broke
[23:29] <freezer> so maybe fast & good quality
[23:30] <v0latil3> pksato, weird pin 23 is always high and 24 low
[23:31] <v0latil3> WAHHHH
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[23:31] <v0latil3> i took out the data/clock pins and it went white all the way down
[23:33] <v0latil3> heehee oh fuck
[23:33] <v0latil3> these breadboard wire get got
[23:33] <v0latil3> with like 10 amps accross them derp
[23:33] <v0latil3> i shouldnt do that
[23:33] <Encapsulation> turtlehat, that's true. I just started coding it
[23:34] <Encapsulation> turns out I was defining or prototyping two functions in there
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[23:34] <Encapsulation> I just removed the first start() function line
[23:35] <turtlehat> yes
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[23:38] <freezer> so, what SD card?
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[23:39] <chris_99> transcend ones seem to work ok for me
[23:39] <v0latil3> ShorTie, sorry
[23:40] <freezer> chris_99: also vor rev1 Pi?
[23:40] <freezer> do you have a link?
[23:40] <chris_99> not handy, just amazon for 'transcend' sd card
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[23:42] <freezer> how is the Pi in terms of compatibility, can i just buy any 8gb card?
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[23:43] <Vidar_> freezer: I believe so
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[23:44] <ShorTie> don't get no super high speed 1, more like the most economical you can find
[23:44] <ShorTie> anything more then a c6 is not needed
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[23:47] <freezer> the higher the class number, the faster the card right?
[23:47] <SOLIDPIZZA> freezer: believe so, yes.
[23:47] <ShorTie> ya, but the pi does not benifit from any thing over a c6
[23:48] <freezer> think i'm getting this one: http://geizhals.at/de/kingston-microsdhc-32gb-kit-sdc10-32gb-a544101.html?hloc=at&hloc=de
[23:48] <freezer> it's also microSD so it can be re-purposed
[23:49] <ShorTie> it should be fine
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[23:50] <ShorTie> if your worried about re-purposed, you could always use a regular usb flash drive
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[23:51] <ShorTie> still need a sdcard to boot from, but root can go on the usb drive
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[23:58] <v0latil3> pksato, how would i do the led probe like you said? just connect led ground into the pi and put the led + into the gpio pins im using?
[23:58] <freezer> ya, but i think i rather have it all on one media

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