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IRC Log for 2015-02-11

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[0:00] <shiftplusone> ah... the downside of buildroot... you end up rebuilding everything quite often... and it takes.... a while.
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[0:00] <phire> I've just build myself a new computer at work
[0:01] <phire> but still
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[0:04] <phire> yeah, you create a external toolchain in crosstools-ng
[0:04] <phire> and then point buildroot at it
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[0:05] <leio> shiftplusone: nope, I didn't post anything stupid; can't, no activation mail
[0:09] <shiftplusone> that's good.
[0:09] * Phosie twiddles thumbs waiting for raspbmc to install
[0:09] <Phosie> hi guys
[0:09] <shiftplusone> Phosie, welcome back.
[0:09] <Phosie> shiftplusone: Thank you! It's been a while
[0:11] <Phosie> 2%...yay! \o/
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[0:11] <shiftplusone> Woo... you'll be able to watch some movies this time next week =D
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[0:12] <Phosie> I've been putting off reinstalling because of just how terrible my internet is at the moment.
[0:12] <Phosie> I feel like i'm using dial up
[0:13] <shiftplusone> I miss dial-up. >.>
[0:13] <Phosie> I miss the sound
[0:13] <pksato> from time tunnel http://www.righto.com/2014/12/inside-intel-1405-die-photos-of-shift.html
[0:13] <shiftplusone> Those screechy noises...
[0:14] <shiftplusone> and having to dial a special thing on the phone to block incoming calls so you don't get knocked offline is someone calls and then have to pay 20 cents to reconnect >.>
[0:14] <Phosie> According to my routers page - DownStream Connection Speed 512
[0:14] <shiftplusone> pksato, that blog iss awesome.
[0:14] <Phosie> yay for hidden characters
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[0:18] <shiftplusone> Phosie, if you don't have the download speed, why not stick to openelec for now?
[0:20] <Phosie> shiftplusone: I guess I'm just sticking with what I know. I've never used openelec
[0:20] <shiftplusone> Fair enough (but openelec for the win)
[0:21] <Phosie> I'm committed now anyway :p
[0:22] <shiftplusone> Heh.... packing for a flight to Australia. So far I've got a bag full of electronics. Pretty sure security are going to want to open that one. =/
[0:22] <Phosie> That's going to be fun.
[0:23] <Payo> take a huge blob of blutack and run wires from it to a rpi
[0:23] <Phosie> I'm surprised I managed to get some blades from China, I expected customs to take them.
[0:23] <Phosie> Payo: Heh
[0:23] <shiftplusone> and I'll be coming back with all of that plus an oscilloscope and a bench power supply.... agh.
[0:24] <Phosie> I'd love a scope
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[0:25] <shiftplusone> They're quite affordable nowadays.
[0:25] <Phosie> Not for me lol
[0:25] <shiftplusone> Or get whatever the local uni throws away.
[0:25] <Phosie> Well, I'm just cheap
[0:25] <Phosie> I don't think that's the right word, hmm
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[0:27] <shiftplusone> Payo, well, I do have about 5 pis and 3 Babbages in there to confuse them a little bit.
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[0:27] <Phosie> I'd love to see their faces
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[0:29] <shiftplusone> I've always wondered what they do when the bag is shrink wrapped or locked... do they cut it open or something =/
[0:29] <Phosie> Probably
[0:29] <shiftplusone> hmm, well that makes the experiment less interesting =(
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[0:30] <Phosie> I think if it was locked they may let you unlock it, but if it was a sealed bag i think they'd cut it.
[0:30] <Phosie> But I'm no expert
[0:31] <shiftplusone> I haven't seen them scan the checked in luggage, so I assume that happens at some point later. Anyway... we'll find out... for science.
[0:32] <Phosie> It reminds me of a video I saw where someone got a ticket on his bike, for science.
[0:32] <shiftplusone> hm?
[0:32] <Phosie> Riding his motorbike in the cycle lane, because the paperwork says it's a bicycle or something like that.
[0:33] <Phosie> Just to see what the cop would do.
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[0:33] <shiftplusone> was that by SvenGalie?
[0:33] <Phosie> Yes!
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[0:33] <shiftplusone> =)
[0:33] <shiftplusone> poor guy though =(
[0:33] <Phosie> R.I.P
[0:34] <shiftplusone> yeah
[0:34] <shiftplusone> follow m13 by any chance?
[0:34] <Phosie> I don't.
[0:34] <shiftplusone> ah well.... another motovlogger who has had some misfortune lately.
[0:35] <Phosie> The only other motovlogger I watch is LaurieJennifer
[0:35] <Phosie> Oh wow, I cannot watch videos and download Raspbmc at the same time.
[0:36] <shiftplusone> Do you ride as well?
[0:36] <Phosie> I want to but I have nowhere to keep a bike.
[0:36] <Phosie> That and I'm afraid of getting killed.
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[0:37] <shiftplusone> There's always that.
[0:37] <Phosie> It's mostly not having anywhere to keep it really.
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[0:40] <shiftplusone> I've moved countries recently and am wondering whether to get a bike again. On one hand... they're awesome. On the other hand, the roads here are boring, everything is within walking distance and I don't want to be run over by a bus any time soon either.
[0:41] <Phosie> Some nice roads here apparently
[0:42] <shiftplusone> I've come off a few the bike once and was lucky enough to get away with a few scars, but it could've been much worse. It's one of those hobbies where losing attention for a second can mess things up for the rest of your life, so I think I'll put bikes behind me for now. >.>
[0:42] <shiftplusone> Phosie, near mountains?
[0:42] <Phosie> No mountains I'm afraid
[0:43] <shiftplusone> how do you get interesting roads then? O_o
[0:43] <Phosie> Bikers seem to like them. *shrug*
[0:44] <shiftplusone> they normally like twisty roads, which are generally near mountains. Or is it just scenery there?
[0:44] <Phosie> 42%....
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[0:45] <shiftplusone> Best road I've done https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO27i19IfQA
[0:45] <shiftplusone> but that was a while back
[0:45] <Phosie> http://cdn3.coresites.mpora.com/rcuk/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/YorkshireRoadOne1.jpg
[0:45] <shiftplusone> oh, nice
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[0:46] <Phosie> http://www.myrides.co.uk/uploads/images/Dales1.JPG :)
[0:48] <shiftplusone> Seems like a bit far from cambridge
[0:48] <acidjazz> what you mean you done shiftplusone are you talking sex
[0:48] <Phosie> I'm looking forward to July... http://www.theridersdigest.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Barton-Bikenight-2013-from-air.jpeg
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[0:49] <acidjazz> holy bikes
[0:49] <shiftplusone> acidjazz, always O_o
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[0:53] <seitensei> rpi2 here~
[0:53] <shiftplusone> hurray
[0:54] <Phosie> I think I'll get a pi2 next pay day
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[0:57] <shiftplusone> oh, I thought that raspbmc was for a pi 2. Figured that's why you've returned.
[0:57] <shiftplusone> seitensei, any plans for it?
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[0:58] <Phosie> shiftplusone: it was the pi 2 that made me decide to get my rev 1 B going again :)
[0:59] <Phosie> I've been putting it off for months
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[1:00] <Phosie> and I want to see if this new webcam works with it
[1:01] <shiftplusone> usb or camera module?
[1:01] <Phosie> usb
[1:01] <shiftplusone> ah... those don't seem to work too well.
[1:01] <Phosie> an upgrade from my PS2 EyeToy I've been using
[1:02] <seitensei> shiftplusone: So far, it's building node pretty quickly compare to the older one
[1:02] <Phosie> and if it doesn't work I'm not bothered, it was cheap. I'm sure I'll find another use for it
[1:03] * omfgtora is now known as omfgtora_work
[1:03] <shiftplusone> fair enough
[1:04] <Phosie> I can't even remember how to set up webcams :P this is going to be fun
[1:05] <seitensei> Looks like mine is made in the PRC though, my last pi was UK
[1:05] <seitensei> e14, for whatever reason, decided to make the box bigger and throw in a heavy manual
[1:05] <shiftplusone> seitensei, shouldn't really make much of a difference.
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[1:06] <shiftplusone> seitensei, the new manual size is actually there to justify making the box bigger. Now it's machine packable =P
[1:06] <seitensei> Haha.
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[1:06] <shiftplusone> true story
[1:06] <seitensei> Actually, I really like that they specifically displayed it as PRC
[1:06] <seitensei> as opposed to 'China'
[1:07] <PovAddict> isn't "Made in China" some sort of trademark, even?
[1:07] <shiftplusone> Should make the Taiwanese happy >.>
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[1:07] * seitensei personally supports the ROC
[1:07] <seitensei> my family line traces back to mainland though
[1:08] * ukgamer is now known as ukgamer|away
[1:09] <shiftplusone> seitensei, wouldn't most non-aboriginal taiwanese folk trace back to mainland China?
[1:09] * ozzzy has no idea where his family line goes
[1:10] <seitensei> shiftplusone: Yeah, but mine doesn't trace to Taiwan at all, was what I meant to say
[1:10] <shiftplusone> ah okay
[1:10] <seitensei> To be fair though, honestly, most people in that part of the world trace back to mainland at some point
[1:10] <seitensei> Except maybe the Koreans
[1:10] * shiftplusone traced to Ukraine->Russia->Germany... but that's not interesting <.<
[1:10] <shiftplusone> *traces
[1:11] <seitensei> Could be worse
[1:11] <seitensei> My ancestors moved from China and founded a village in Vietnam
[1:11] <shiftplusone> Hm... may lazy parents never founded any villages >=/
[1:11] <seitensei> My grandfather still lives there... it's really creepy, since basically I'm related to an entire village
[1:12] <shiftplusone> I propose we go find some land and establish Piland.
[1:13] <Phosie> Raspberries can be the national dish
[1:13] <shiftplusone> exactly!
[1:13] <ShorTie> i got a couple extra acres
[1:13] <shiftplusone> And the national animal too... somehow.
[1:13] <Phosie> Babbage?
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[1:14] <shiftplusone> Okay, that would make more sense >.>
[1:14] <shiftplusone> Well, it's all coming together.
[1:15] <shiftplusone> I can be the supreme ruler. Anyone caught with an odroid will be.... no, I'm getting carried away.
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[1:15] * ShorTie snickers
[1:16] <Phosie> We need a national song
[1:16] <Phosie> Anthem, not song, anthem
[1:16] <shiftplusone> can it just be dial up noises?
[1:17] <Phosie> Perfect
[1:18] <ShorTie> Pleaze hold for the next ... (dial up noises)
[1:19] <Phosie> It cuts out midway because someone used the phone.
[1:19] <seitensei> Phosie: I'm assuming by babbage, he means this: http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=MCIMX51EVKJ&fsrch=1&sr=10
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[1:20] <shiftplusone> seitensei, this guy http://swag.raspberrypi.org/products/babbage-bear
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[1:20] <seitensei> A lot less geeky, haha
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[1:21] <seitensei> and now i need this
[1:21] <shiftplusone> heh
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[1:21] <Phosie> "(he's so soft and fuzzy, ooh!)" made me giggle
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[1:23] <PovAddict> seitensei: the correct spelling is 'I need dis'
[1:24] * Phosie twiddles thumbs some more
[1:24] <PovAddict> https://i.imgur.com/5Fjfx.jpg
[1:25] <Phosie> If this doesn't work after spending forever installing it I'll scream
[1:26] <abnormal> lol, PovAddict
[1:26] <PovAddict> :)
[1:27] <Phosie> Aww that cat's adorable.
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[1:35] <graybis> guys quick question here
[1:35] <graybis> I have a raspberry pi+
[1:35] <seitensei> That's cool
[1:35] <seitensei> Do you like it?
[1:35] <graybis> I am using it as a backup server. Recently I got a WD ELEMENTS 1TB
[1:35] <graybis> It's amazing :)
[1:36] <graybis> But, when I connect the wd elements in my raspberrypi I hear a sound
[1:36] <graybis> It works on my debian 7.0 and windows 8 and mac
[1:36] <shiftplusone> What kind of sound?
[1:36] <graybis> something like that I think
[1:36] <graybis> but less
[1:36] <graybis> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z9wCcFab7I
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[1:36] <graybis> like "clicking"
[1:36] <seitensei> graybis: Is the Elements plugged into an external power source?
[1:37] <graybis> nope, it's directly to the raspberrypi usb oprt
[1:37] <graybis> port*
[1:37] <graybis> It's not required to use an external power source, I can plug it directly like I would do on a PC? right?
[1:37] <seitensei> Ok. You'll want to plug it into an external port- sounds like the Pi might not be providing enough juice
[1:37] <graybis> yea
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[1:37] <graybis> Juice = electricity?:p
[1:37] <seitensei> Yep
[1:37] <Phosie> Step one with pi hardware troubleshooting is always the power supply
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[1:38] <seitensei> USB sticks aren't an issue, but for hard drives of any sort, you'll want to use an external power supply or powered USB hub
[1:38] <graybis> Okay cool
[1:38] <seitensei> Moving parts and motor = power drain
[1:38] <seitensei> Not sure if the same applies to SSDs
[1:39] <graybis> so, I will get a USB hub
[1:39] <shiftplusone> Hmm... wonder if my niece will like this or just think wth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlRN3ImUB_I
[1:39] <seitensei> The catcher is 'externally powered'
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[1:41] <Phosie> shiftplusone: They're cool!
[1:42] <shiftplusone> Yeah, but her parents aren't the type to guide her through using them, so I'm not sure if it's a stupid gift. Well, there's always babbage to fall back on... can't go wrong there.
[1:42] <Phosie> Every girl loves a bear
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[1:43] <shiftplusone> that's the logic >.>
[1:45] <shiftplusone> Once you rule out dolls and all that stupid crap she already has lots of, picking a gift is hard =/
[1:46] <Phosie> I'm terrible at choosing gifts
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[1:48] <shiftplusone> damn, I was hoping for hints for next time
[1:48] <Phosie> ooh time to see if my pi is functional
[1:48] <Phosie> I'm the worst person to task, I can't even shop for myself, nevermind someone else
[1:48] <seitensei> shiftplusone: Get her a kano
[1:48] <Phosie> ask*
[1:49] * shiftplusone rolls eyes
[1:49] <shiftplusone> ...kano
[1:50] <shiftplusone> I'm personally not a fan of kano, though I guess their OS might be a good starting point.
[1:50] <Phosie> ugh....
[1:51] <seitensei> It's a fun kit that has colorful kid-friendly accessories for the pi
[1:51] <seitensei> I'm getting a few for my younger cousins
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[1:53] <Phosie> dammit
[1:53] <Phosie> guess I'll be trying openelec shiftplusone
[1:53] <shiftplusone> hurray
[1:53] <Phosie> Can it be installed to usb?
[1:53] <seitensei> \o/
[1:54] <seitensei> Phosie: Are you using a B+/B?
[1:54] <shiftplusone> don't think so. it's just a tiny xbmc OS, so you don't really need to.
[1:54] <Phosie> seitensei: rev1
[1:54] <Phosie> shiftplusone: I found raspbmc to be quicker on the usb than on the card, that's all
[1:54] <seitensei> Phosie: try berryboot
[1:54] <Phosie> ohh
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[1:55] <seitensei> http://www.berryterminal.com/doku.php/berryboot
[1:55] <Phosie> nah I'll just reinstall.
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[1:55] <seitensei> It's kinda like noobs, but will also let you boot from USB
[1:55] <Phosie> hmm
[1:56] <Phosie> I'm not the only one with the issue i've just had, and it seems the fix is installing via ethernet instead of wifi. Just a bit annoyed because it takes me so long to do
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[2:14] <shiftplusone> starting to regret my decision not to sleep tonight =|
[2:14] * shiftplusone yawns
[2:16] * Phosie also yawns
[2:16] <Phosie> I might have a moan to sky broadband tomorrow and get my internet fixed
[2:16] <shiftplusone> seitensei, read us a story
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[2:17] <seitensei> what's 1 + 1?
[2:17] <Arbition> So rPi 2, with the USB issues in v1, have they been addressed?
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[2:17] <seitensei> Arbition: Which USB issues are you referring to?
[2:17] <phire> rpi2 has identical usb hardware as rpi1
[2:17] <Arbition> There were lost frames
[2:17] <shiftplusone> Arbition, it's still the same core, but the faster CPU handles it better.
[2:18] <phire> however software has improved massivly since 2012
[2:18] <phire> and yes, faster cpu helps
[2:18] <Arbition> I saw someone say something about there being an issue baked in hardware, but I actually couldn't follow that up
[2:18] <shiftplusone> so I wouldn't say it has been addressed... just improved to the point where most people don't need to worry about it.
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[2:19] <seitensei> We did get the Xenon Death in the RPi 2, though
[2:19] <seitensei> that's pretty cool
[2:19] <Arbition> yeah I saw that
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[2:19] <Arbition> Good thing I don't like posting photos of everything I do
[2:20] <Arbition> But yeah the increase in power is promising
[2:20] <Arbition> if the USB issues are resolved
[2:20] <shiftplusone> Arbition, what sort of devices do you intend to use?
[2:20] <Arbition> Well, the onboard ethernet for one
[2:21] <shiftplusone> check
[2:21] <Arbition> flash drives
[2:21] <Arbition> probably wireless
[2:21] <shiftplusone> I haven't had problems with those sorts of thing in a long time.
[2:21] <Arbition> keyboard and mouse
[2:21] <shiftplusone> yeah, you should be fine.
[2:21] <Arbition> I was going to say that if the USB is resolved then it should actually work ok as a user interface computer
[2:21] <Arbition> well my concern was basically UDP over the ethernet
[2:23] <shiftplusone> maybe someone a little more unbiased than me might weight in with their experience with those things.
[2:24] <ali1234> i've hammered a wireless USB on the A+
[2:24] <ali1234> no problems detected
[2:26] <ali1234> parsing strings in C stucks :(
[2:29] <Arbition> ali1234: Yeah but if you are using TCP it should, in theory, hide the issue
[2:29] <ali1234> on wireless? true, but i was streaming video and i got <1 second latency and no errors
[2:30] <ali1234> retransmissions would have been pretty obvious i think
[2:30] <Arbition> ah ok
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[2:33] * ozzzy orders an IR remote for his Pi
[2:34] <shiftplusone> still waiting for my Slice, which comes with a nice remote... but that's taking a while to ship out. =(
[2:35] <ozzzy> supposedly the new Pi runs Kodi quite zippily
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[2:35] <Phosie> What is Kodi anyway?
[2:35] <Phosie> All I know is it's giving me issues
[2:36] <shiftplusone> Slice with compute module 2 should be awesome, but that's probably not happening any time soon. =)
[2:36] <shiftplusone> Phosie, what xbmc was renamed to.
[2:36] <chipmadness> HOLLA
[2:36] <seitensei> Phosie: Kodi is XMBC
[2:36] <Phosie> Ahhhh
[2:36] <Phosie> Thank you :)
[2:36] <Phosie> Bonjour chipmadness
[2:36] <shiftplusone> and if you don't know what that it is, it's the home theatre application.
[2:36] <ozzzy> Priwet
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[2:36] <shiftplusone> zdarova
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[2:38] <Phosie> I don't know why but I really like the lights on the pi...
[2:38] <shiftplusone> O_o
[2:39] <Phosie> I just think it looks nice in the corner of a dark room
[2:39] <PovAddict> Phosie: it looks even nicer with the CanaKit USB dongle
[2:39] <PovAddict> which has a tiny *blue* LED
[2:40] <shiftplusone> I'm against all the pointless blinkenlights in modern electronics
[2:40] <seitensei> I don't care for blue leds on boards
[2:40] <Phosie> I don't mind blinky lights if they're small
[2:40] <seitensei> too bright
[2:40] <seitensei> The BeagleBone is a horrible offender of horrible leds
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[2:41] <shiftplusone> I understand that the lights are necessary as 'everything is okay' indicators, but I'd rather we just had 'everything is NOT okay' indicators instead.
[2:42] <Phosie> Like car check engine lights
[2:42] <shiftplusone> psh, that thing's on all the time too
[2:42] <Phosie> seitensei: Oh wow, they are bad
[2:43] <shiftplusone> brb... I'll go to pi towers and steal some office supplies... from myself.
[2:43] <chipmadness> Anyone here have the Pi 2?
[2:43] <ozzzy> yep
[2:43] <chipmadness> ozzzy what distro you running?
[2:43] <chipmadness> or i should say, OS
[2:43] <ozzzy> raspbian wheezy
[2:43] <chipmadness> Ahhh
[2:43] <chipmadness> have you tried ubuntu core?
[2:43] <ozzzy> nope
[2:43] <shiftplusone> bah, too cold to go outside right now =/
[2:43] <chipmadness> I want to try it but i have a raspberry pi 2 model b....
[2:44] <chipmadness> im two years behind
[2:44] <shiftplusone> chipmadness, I've read that the ubuntu image is somewhat alpha right now.
[2:44] <chipmadness> shiftplusone: thanks man, I been wondering about that image
[2:44] <chipmadness> I am super excited for Windows 10
[2:44] <shiftplusone> haven't tried it myself though.
[2:44] <ozzzy> we'll see what it looks like
[2:44] <seitensei> chipmadness: are you developing anything for Windows?
[2:44] <chipmadness> I hate windows personally but its cool that microsoft is doing this
[2:44] <ozzzy> why would you hate Windows
[2:44] <chipmadness> setensei: As of right now, no
[2:44] <chipmadness> ozzzy windows is only good for gaming lol
[2:44] <seitensei> iirc the Windows 10 for RPi doesn't have shell access, but it'll run universal apps
[2:45] <ozzzy> chipmadness, what makes you think that
[2:45] <chipmadness> directx and microsoft word is only good
[2:45] <seitensei> I disagree
[2:45] <chipmadness> ozzzy because coding on windows sucks
[2:45] <seitensei> OpenGL is where it's at
[2:45] <ozzzy> chipmadness, sure it does
[2:45] <chipmadness> OpenGL is nice setensei
[2:45] <chipmadness> but not optimizable like DirectX
[2:45] <seitensei> OpenGL is supported everywhere
[2:45] <seitensei> DirectX isn't ^^
[2:45] <chipmadness> True seitensei, but 80% of this world is on Windows....
[2:46] <seitensei> I'd disagree with that, actually.
[2:46] <chipmadness> Probs even more
[2:46] <chipmadness> 2% of the world uses Linux
[2:46] <seitensei> That may be true for consumer computers
[2:46] * ozzzy was on Linux from 1996 to 2014.... now he's on Windows
[2:46] <ali1234> openGL and directX are now little more than a way to upload geometry, textures, and shaders to the video card
[2:46] <seitensei> but I'd bet that Linux has a lot more share on server architecture
[2:46] <seitensei> and embedded devices
[2:47] <chipmadness> seitensei are you planning to develop windows apps when Windows 10 ARM is released?
[2:47] <seitensei> Microsoft is only in homes and offices, where Linux is everywhere
[2:47] <seitensei> chipmadness: Nope, I'm a web developer ^^
[2:47] <ali1234> oh you want to talk about market share? android out numbers windows PCs...
[2:47] <seitensei> Android, interestingly enough, uses a linux-based kernel
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[2:47] <ali1234> why do you think ubuntu closed bug 1?
[2:48] <chipmadness> ohhhh android.....
[2:48] <chipmadness> i hate that mobile OS
[2:48] <chipmadness> lol
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[2:48] <ozzzy> android is ok
[2:48] <ozzzy> but I need Windows
[2:48] <seitensei> chipmadness: I dunno, dude. Android is pretty swell when you consider the alternatives.
[2:48] <chipmadness> ozzzy, i will admit, windows 10 looks promising
[2:48] <ozzzy> dunno about Win10... but I need Win7 or Win8
[2:49] <chipmadness> Win8 = junk
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[2:49] <ozzzy> no it's not... it's quite useable
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[2:49] <seitensei> Win8 is actually pretty nice
[2:49] <shiftplusone> to each his own
[2:49] <seitensei> It runs well
[2:49] <seitensei> Has a nice interface for touch displays
[2:49] <ozzzy> no ASCOM on linux (or any other OS for that matter)
[2:50] <ozzzy> just Windows
[2:51] <seitensei> I think each OS/platform excels at what it does
[2:51] <ozzzy> yep
[2:51] <ozzzy> 'buntu was great until I needed ASCOM
[2:51] <ozzzy> I still keep bash and the gnu utilities on Windows
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[2:55] <chipmadness> ozzzy: windows would be awesome if it was unix based
[2:56] <ozzzy> it's awesome enough without it being unix. [shrug]
[2:56] <ozzzy> we used HP/UX at work and I ran UnixWare back in the 90s
[2:56] <PovAddict> well there is a unix subsystem over the NT kernel, isn't there?
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[2:56] <PovAddict> oh god, HPUX
[2:56] <ozzzy> CDE sucked
[2:57] <ozzzy> all of our systems ran either HP/UX or QNX
[2:58] <ozzzy> before I retired they want to Sun kit with SuSE
[2:58] <seitensei> Honeslty
[2:58] <seitensei> Windows would be awesome if it was POSIX compliant
[2:58] <ali1234> windows used to be posix compliant but they removed it
[2:59] <ozzzy> doesn't need to be
[2:59] <ozzzy> POSIX compliance isn't that big a deal anymore
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[2:59] <ali1234> posix is outdated and pointless now
[3:00] <ali1234> it was always meaningless anyway
[3:00] <ali1234> there are loopholes in it you could drive a truck through
[3:00] <ozzzy> pretty much
[3:00] <ali1234> just try to write portable code that uses gethostname and you'll understand...
[3:02] <chipmadness> I wonder if the security background on Windows 10 ARM will be different than Windows 10 x86
[3:02] <ozzzy> operating systems and environments are plumbing... you run the one your applications need
[3:02] <seitensei> or code for browsers ^^
[3:03] <ozzzy> code for browsers?
[3:03] * ]DMackey[ is now known as DMackey
[3:03] <seitensei> JavaScript runs essentially everywhere now
[3:03] <ozzzy> pretty much
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[3:04] <seitensei> And it's fairly performant on v8
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[3:06] <Triffid_Hunter> ozzzy: I run the one I can fix when it breaks, which basically is just linux
[3:08] <seitensei> Triffid_Hunter: Do you fix it though?
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[3:08] <Triffid_Hunter> seitensei: yes
[3:09] * seitensei has never done anything with the kernel
[3:09] <seitensei> :x
[3:09] <seitensei> or the GNU utils
[3:10] <Triffid_Hunter> eh I've only done minor stuff like re-enabling HUP for FTDI and adding 250k baud support
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[3:15] <chipmadness> I wish there was a political IRC channel
[3:15] <chipmadness> anyone know of one?
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[3:15] <chipmadness> #politics
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[3:19] <ozzzy> Triffid_Hunter, I've never had anything but Linux break LOL
[3:20] <ozzzy> chipmadness, there art several on undernet
[3:20] <Triffid_Hunter> ozzzy: ah, see I've had all the major OSes give me serious grief, but with windows and OSX I quickly run into the wall of closed source and can't progress any further
[3:20] <chipmadness> ozzzy undernet?
[3:20] <chipmadness> deep web?
[3:20] <ozzzy> chipmadness, another IRC network
[3:20] <chipmadness> ahhhhh okay
[3:20] <chipmadness> im only familiar with freenode
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[3:21] <ozzzy> Triffid_Hunter, I spent most of my personal computing life in Unix, OS/2 and Linux
[3:21] <ozzzy> so I'm used to things breaking
[3:22] <ozzzy> Unix didn't break so much...
[3:23] <ozzzy> OS/2 didn't either until they decided that they had to pander to the masses
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[3:23] <bandroidx> hi, if i have a problem with watchdog on rasbian on raspberry pi, will killall watchdog stop it?
[3:24] <bandroidx> i am trying to catch my pi booting in the 5 seconds i have to login and run a command if i am lucky before it reboots again
[3:24] <bandroidx> as i must have made a mistake configing watchdog and was dumb and set it to run on boot before testing it
[3:24] <bandroidx> and its in a remote hard to get to location
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[3:24] <bandroidx> so i am trying to login via ssh really quick and run killall watchdog
[3:24] <ali1234> watchdog daemon probably feeds the hardware watchdog
[3:24] <ali1234> so no
[3:25] <bandroidx> but it seems the couple times i was able to run killall watchdog it actually made it reboot
[3:25] <ali1234> but idk
[3:25] <ali1234> yeah that would be what i would expect
[3:25] <bandroidx> i am wondering if i can echo something to proc to disable it
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[3:25] <PovAddict> bandroidx: how did you configure it?
[3:25] <ali1234> the idea is if userland freezes, the hardware reboots
[3:25] <PovAddict> bandroidx: I recommend putting the SD card on a computer and undoing your configuration from there
[3:25] <bandroidx> PovAddict: i followed this exactly: http://blog.ricardoarturocabral.com/2013/01/auto-reboot-hung-raspberry-pi-using-on.html
[3:26] <bandroidx> only difference is i also set it to ping an ip which i assume is the problem
[3:26] <bandroidx> PovAddict: i can not get to the device, its in a remote location
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[3:26] <PovAddict> oh :/
[3:26] <bandroidx> it looks like possibly i can do something like echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/nmi_watchdog
[3:27] <ali1234> bandroidx: if you can log in quickly, do not kill watchdog. instead, mv /etc/modules to a different name
[3:27] <bandroidx> i get about 1 second to run a command on 1 out every 10 boots
[3:27] <bandroidx> ali1234: geniuous idea
[3:27] <ali1234> it will reboot once
[3:27] <ali1234> after that it should not
[3:27] <bandroidx> yeah that is really smart
[3:27] <ali1234> or... wait
[3:27] <ali1234> don't do that until i check
[3:27] <bandroidx> or even rm /etc/init.d/watchdog
[3:27] <bandroidx> there is 1 other module in there, i think a sound module
[3:27] <ali1234> no that won't work
[3:28] <ali1234> yeah it is safe to rename /etc/modules so do that
[3:28] <ali1234> i will explain how it works
[3:28] <bandroidx> awesome
[3:28] <bandroidx> i just gotta get lucky now
[3:28] <bandroidx> sometimes i can get logged in, in time, othertimes i cant
[3:28] <ali1234> the module sets the hardware to reboot after some seconds if it does not receive a keep aline message
[3:28] <ali1234> the watchdog daemon sends the keepalive
[3:28] <ali1234> so if you kill it, or it doesn't run, this guarantees it will reboot
[3:29] <ali1234> so you need to disable the module, not the daemon
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[3:29] <bandroidx> ahhh, so its the module, not watchdog
[3:29] <bandroidx> i think i got it!
[3:29] <ali1234> correct
[3:29] <ali1234> watchdog daemon is what prevents the module from rebooting the system
[3:29] <bandroidx> we will find out shortly lol
[3:29] <bandroidx> i feel so dumb i didnt think of something like thast
[3:30] <Phosie> bandroidx: Don't feel dumb :)
[3:30] <bandroidx> i kept trying to killall watchdog, but thats due to my misunderstanding how it works
[3:30] <ali1234> like i said, the idea is to reboot the system if the userland crashes - so if watchdog daemon crashes or stops for any reason, it reboots
[3:30] <bandroidx> i also could have done rmmod on the module too i guess
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[3:30] <shaun413> hello!
[3:30] <shaun413> anyone get a 2 yet?
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[3:30] <ali1234> bandroidx: maybe, depends if the module is buggy or not lol
[3:31] <ali1234> it might not turn off the hardware watchdog when rmmod'ing it
[3:31] <bandroidx> it hasnt come back up yet :/
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[3:32] <bandroidx> wait it just did but it seems to not have worked
[3:32] <bandroidx> it came up for a second and then back off again
[3:32] <ali1234> perhaps changes were not written to sdcard
[3:32] <bandroidx> shit you are probably right
[3:32] <bandroidx> probably didnt have time to flush
[3:32] <ali1234> this could be tricky - rebooting like this will corrupt the sd card eventually
[3:32] <bandroidx> perhaps i could try rmmod ?
[3:32] <shaun413> has anoyne gotten a 2 yet?
[3:33] <ali1234> bandroidx: worth a try
[3:33] <bandroidx> or something like: echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/nmi_watchdog
[3:33] <ali1234> yeah, on a loop
[3:33] <bandroidx> is that the correct proc file for rpi?
[3:33] <ali1234> i don't know
[3:34] <ali1234> consult the module source...
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[3:34] <PovAddict> shaun413: many people have; ask an actual question
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[3:34] <shaun413> oh, well ive never had a rpi
[3:35] <shaun413> looking to get one, should i get a 2, and from where
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[3:36] <SeeThruHead> i've got a question, would it be possible to connect an analog stick directly to the pi without an intermediate interface?
[3:36] <ali1234> SeeThruHead: no
[3:36] <ali1234> raspberry pi has no analog
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[3:37] <ali1234> you could get a USB joystick though
[3:37] <amigojapan> hi
[3:37] <Phosie> hello
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[3:37] <jamesd> hi
[3:37] * amigojapan had a Sheldon, from the big bang theory dream, whcih was really funny, I took a note of the whole dream….
[3:37] <SeeThruHead> well i was thinking about that, was going to connect action buttons via gpio and use the https://github.com/petrockblog/SNESDev-RPi
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[3:38] <amigojapan> oh wrong channel
[3:38] <ali1234> SeeThruHead: yes but raspberry pi has no ADC, so no analog sticks can be done that way
[3:39] <SeeThruHead> could i convert to i2c or something
[3:39] <ali1234> sure
[3:39] <ali1234> all modern game controllers work that way
[3:39] <ali1234> it's much easier to just use USB though
[3:39] <SeeThruHead> yeahhh
[3:39] <SeeThruHead> not going to be much space though
[3:40] <Phosie> wii nunchuk uses i2c, never done it with a pi but fairly easy with arduino
[3:40] <SeeThruHead> so i was thinknig to design my own pcb
[3:40] <Phosie> get a stick, 2 buttons and also the accelerometer (probably spelt wrong)
[3:41] <SeeThruHead> also is it possible to cut the pi board to reduce it's size in any way, i'm trying to get this into the smallest space possible
[3:42] <ali1234> get a A+
[3:43] <SeeThruHead> needs to be a pi 2
[3:43] <SeeThruHead> going to desolder most stuff that i don't need
[3:43] <bandroidx> ali1234: tried to remove the module but i get Error: Module bcm2708_wdog is not currently loaded
[3:43] <bandroidx> oddly
[3:44] <ali1234> bandroidx: rebooting might not be enough to disable watchdog
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[3:44] <ali1234> might need to be explicitly turned off with register writes, or a full power off
[3:45] <ali1234> but at this point... i don't know
[3:45] <bandroidx> ali1234: well next i am going to try to rm /etc/modules and then run a fsync
[3:45] <bandroidx> try to get it flushed to the sdcard quickly
[3:45] <ali1234> sounds like a recipe for sd card corruption but okay
[3:45] <bandroidx> well tbh its worth it
[3:45] <bandroidx> its enough of a hassle to get access to it that i am willing to try anything
[3:45] <bandroidx> if it corrupts so be it
[3:47] <bandroidx> i cant find a a way to disable it via proc
[3:47] <bandroidx> that would be ideal
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[3:50] <bandroidx> i found the module source but its no help
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[3:51] <ali1234> look at the source of the watchdog daemon
[3:51] <bandroidx> there is a way to stop it according to the module but i have no clue how
[3:51] <ali1234> find out what it does, and do that
[3:52] <bandroidx> as in fake the singal?
[3:52] <ali1234> yeah
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[3:52] <bandroidx> yeah that is not a bad idea
[3:53] * Phosie crosses her fingers
[3:53] <Phosie> ughhhh
[3:53] <Phosie> i give up
[3:54] <Phosie> "kodi pre start process terminated with status 1"
[3:54] <PovAddict> aww
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[3:56] <phire> stop the actual hardware watchdog?
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[3:56] <ali1234> phire: he's got into a pickle... activated watchdog, and it keeps rebooting 5 seconds after boot
[3:57] <bandroidx> phire: that is what i am trying to do
[3:59] <phire> ali1234, without opening the /dev/watchdog file?
[3:59] <ali1234> phire: no idea
[3:59] <ali1234> seems like watchdog is active, watchdog userspace daemon is not starting correctly
[4:00] <Phosie> "relax, Kodi will restart shortly" great....
[4:00] <bandroidx> it looks like /etc/modules is actually deleted and its still running
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[4:00] <bandroidx> perhaps the watchdog service is also to blame?
[4:00] <ali1234> bandroidx: try modprobing and then removing themodule really fast
[4:01] <phire> the watchdog does nothing until /dev/watchdog is opened
[4:01] <bandroidx> phire: any idea how to short circuit the entire thing with a single command?
[4:01] <bandroidx> i only have time to run 1 command
[4:02] <ali1234> phire: what if you open /dev/watchdog and subsequently the watchdog reboots the system, and then on reboot the watchdog daemon is disabled
[4:02] <ali1234> does a watchdog initiated reboot... disable the watchdog?
[4:02] <phire> yes
[4:02] <phire> otherwise there wouldn't be enough time to finish the reboot
[4:03] <ali1234> good point
[4:03] <phire> I have a custom program which opens the watchdog
[4:03] <ali1234> well, the module is not being loaded on reboot
[4:03] <phire> it doesn't run till about 20 seconds after boot starts
[4:03] <bandroidx> phire: the problem is i only have time to run a single command about 1 out of every 10 boots
[4:03] <ali1234> so there should not even be a /dev/watchdog
[4:03] <bandroidx> and that is if i get lucky
[4:03] <phire> bandroidx, can you edit the sd card on a computer?
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[4:03] <ali1234> maybe the problem isn't the watchdog at all?
[4:03] <bandroidx> phire: i wish, its in a remote location and extremely hard to get to
[4:04] <bandroidx> ali1234: the problem started right after i enabled watchdog
[4:04] <phire> oh, ssh?
[4:04] <PovAddict> bandroidx: the single command could be multiple commands separated by a semicolon :)
[4:04] <ali1234> bandroidx: the problem started right after you "added a ping" - what exactly does that mean?
[4:04] <bandroidx> lol my current command is this
[4:04] <bandroidx> sudo rm /etc/modules ; sudo fsync ; sudo echo 1 > /dev/watchdog ; sudo rm /etc/watchdog.conf ; sudo killall watchdog
[4:04] <ali1234> bandroidx: don't echo 1 > /dev/watchdog
[4:04] <phire> yeah, that's not really going to work
[4:05] <phire> focus on disabling the watchdog daemon so it doesn't run at next boot
[4:05] <bandroidx> seems fsync is also a waste of time as it says command not found
[4:05] <ali1234> the command is called sync
[4:05] <bandroidx> ah derp
[4:05] <ali1234> watchdog daemon loads the module?
[4:05] <phire> and deleting modules is pointless
[4:06] <phire> udev will possibly load it anyway
[4:06] <bandroidx> phire: ali1234 suggested it and it sounded like a good idea, to keep the watchdog module from running at next boot
[4:06] <phire> you need to add it to the blacklist
[4:06] <bandroidx> so perhaps i just need to delete /etc/watchdog.conf ?
[4:06] <bandroidx> ah another good idea
[4:07] <phire> no, delete the symlink which is starting the watchdog daemon
[4:07] <bandroidx> but wont the module still cause it to reboot without a ping from the daemon?
[4:07] <phire> something like /etc/rc*/?
[4:08] <bandroidx> i was going to delete /etc/init.d/watchdog
[4:08] <phire> I think the ping feature you are talking about is the watchdog daemon will try to ping an external ip address
[4:08] <bandroidx> yeah and i found out after i enabled it that it doesnt work for wlan
[4:08] <ali1234> the module isn;t going to get loaded if the watchdog daemon isn't running and you don't touch /dev/watchdog
[4:08] <bandroidx> well my new command is this: sudo rm /etc/watchdog.conf ; sudo rm /etc/init.d/watchdog ; sudo sync ; sudo killall watchdog
[4:08] <ali1234> because you deleted /etc/modules
[4:08] <ali1234> phire: part of the "guide" was to put bcm2708_wdog in /etc/modules
[4:08] <phire> don't bother killalling watchdog
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[4:09] <phire> if you kill watchdog it will reboot
[4:09] <bandroidx> ahhh
[4:09] <phire> that's kind of the point
[4:09] <ali1234> i did try to explain this...
[4:10] <bandroidx> i really have zero experience with watchdog is the problem
[4:10] <ali1234> next time, make the watchdog time out like 30 minutes...
[4:10] <bandroidx> ali1234: trust me, i have learned my lesson
[4:10] <phire> whatever you do, don't configure the watchdog remotely
[4:11] <bandroidx> the device froze up yesterday and i had to go through a huge hassle to get someone to reboot it, so i had the brilliant idea of addign watchdog
[4:12] <bandroidx> the main problem is i get so little time to do it
[4:12] <bandroidx> usually i get only 3 pings
[4:12] <bandroidx> sometimes 8
[4:12] <bandroidx> one out of every 10 boots i get 8 pings and i can run 1 command if i am fast
[4:13] <bandroidx> as in pings from the pi as i have a constant ping going to watch when it comes up
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[4:14] <phire> yeah, much lower watchdog timeout
[4:14] <phire> er, higher
[4:14] <bandroidx> i just used the defaults
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[4:20] * Phosie crosses her fingers again
[4:20] <Phosie> WOHOO
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[4:27] <ali1234> https://github.com/ali1234/raspi-teletext - done and released :)
[4:28] <PovAddict> :))
[4:28] <ali1234> and it works flawlessly on my TV too
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[4:28] <ali1234> much better than the nvidia version, or the avr version
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[4:30] <shiftplusone> ali1234, any video of it in action?
[4:30] <shiftplusone> or stills
[4:30] <ali1234> i'll do one tomorrow
[4:31] <ali1234> actually, i'll do one now
[4:32] <Phosie> Just need to install motion now, transfer some videos across and then I can go to bed
[4:33] <ali1234> shiftplusone: https://plus.google.com/117474986382867317779/posts/9XanVvRKB2f
[4:33] <shiftplusone> =D
[4:34] <ali1234> i can display a carousel too, hang on i'll do a video
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[4:35] <PovAddict> :D
[4:39] <Phosie> don't you love it when things just...work? =D
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[4:45] <Phosie> shiftplusone: webcam works :)
[4:45] <shiftplusone> Phosie, oh, nice.
[4:46] <shiftplusone> decent frame rate and resolution?
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[4:46] <Phosie> haven't tweaked that yet so it's still at 2fps and 320x240
[4:48] <shiftplusone> oh
[4:48] <shiftplusone> different definitions of 'works' =P
[4:48] <Phosie> I'm happy with it :)
[4:48] <Phosie> 640*480 works, not sure what resolution to try next
[4:50] <Phosie> The limitation is more from motion than the camera I think
[4:50] <shaun413> should I get a rpi2?
[4:50] <shaun413> and from where
[4:51] <PovAddict> where do you live?
[4:52] <shaun413> usa
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[4:55] <shaun413> can beef make you gassy
[4:56] <shaun413> or was it bad
[4:56] <shaun413> umm ww...
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[5:22] <Phosie> goodnight!
[5:22] <shiftplusone> take care
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[5:26] <bandroidx> FINALLY!
[5:26] <bandroidx> ali1234: got it!
[5:27] <PovAddict> ooh tell us
[5:27] <bandroidx> i used plink for windows
[5:27] <bandroidx> it allowed me to define the ssh password on the command line
[5:27] <bandroidx> it also allowed me to put the remote commands i wanted run in a file
[5:27] <bandroidx> i ran it in batch mode
[5:27] <bandroidx> the command i ran was sudo rm /etc/init.d/watchdog ; sudo rm /etc/watchdog.conf ; sudo sync
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[5:28] <bandroidx> using plink that way allowed me to run the command fast enough
[5:28] <bandroidx> took about 90 tries
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[5:29] <phire> congrats
[5:29] <bandroidx> thanks :)
[5:29] <bandroidx> saves me a huge hassle of getting access to the pi
[5:30] <bandroidx> learned my lesson lol
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[5:32] <PovAddict> now that you're in, you may want to uninstall the package properly
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[5:32] <bandroidx> PovAddict: that is what i am doing right now actually :)
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[5:32] <bandroidx> i did an apt-get remove
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[5:34] <bandroidx> its erroring out trying to reinstall it thoug
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[5:39] <ali1234> shiftplusone: video is 128MB, it will go on my G+ when it's finished uploading
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[5:48] <shiftplusone> ali1234, I'm off to catch a plane, but looking forward to seeing it later.
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[6:31] <ali1234> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G39IF8Ul9oU&feature=youtu.be
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[6:58] <agent_white> Two raspberry pi's. One with a little screen. No internet access besides IRC. What do for a project?
[6:58] <agent_white> :D
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[7:08] <Naphidia> i am setting up to wifi nics on my raspberry pi. i have the first one setup to connect to my wifi network.. the 2nd one is being used for hostapd
[7:09] <Naphidia> how can i get it to assign the static ip at boot... so dhcp server and tor daemon willstart
[7:09] <Naphidia> whats happining is i have it in the interfaces file with the standard iface static blah blah
[7:09] <Naphidia> but when it boots up fails to get ip and tor and dhcpd damon fail to start
[7:10] <Naphidia> allow-hotplug wlan1
[7:10] <Naphidia> iface wlan1 inet static
[7:10] <Naphidia> address 192.168.42.1
[7:10] <Naphidia> netmask 255.255.255.0
[7:10] <Naphidia> is what i have
[7:11] <Naphidia> ive tried with and without auto wlan1
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[7:17] <Naphidia> how can i bring both wifi adaptors up at the same time?
[7:17] <Naphidia> at boot
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[8:15] <Jck_true> Uff :| I killed my SD card..... My IRC bouncer had filled my 8gb card... Then I attempted to run a SQL "VACUUM" command;
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[8:19] <Jck_true> After 1½ hours my Pi just went belly up :|
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[8:29] <Mr_Sheesh> Maybe put the logs into an external USB HDD?
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[8:31] <jamesd> or something over the network.. good remote logging tools exist
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[8:35] <Mr_Sheesh> Server HDD would do too, yep
[8:35] <turtlehat> heys guys, in lxde, if a dropdown menu goes offscreen because its very long, why doesnt it scroll when the menu cursor goes offscreen?
[8:35] <turtlehat> is there a way to set that?
[8:35] <turtlehat> srsly frustrating
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[8:51] <Akiraa> can you get breakout boards for the individual r-pi components?
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[9:30] <Jck_true> Mr_Sheesh: That defeats the purpose of it being a lost cost low power IRC bouncer and webserver :)
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[9:30] <Jck_true> Mr_Sheesh: And it was my own fault - I forgot to clear the backlog before they filled out the flash
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[9:31] <Jck_true> And then I played smart thinking I could just delete from the table instead of just doing an SQL dump of the specific tables I need
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[9:32] <Mr_Sheesh> Uh my file server's always on so the HDD's always available; 2 RPi's running 24/7 doing some embedded stuff, other laptop always on... Everyone uses computers differently
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[11:30] <shiftplusone> ali1234, the folks at pi towers love it, want to do a blog about it and make sure future software updates preserve that functionality.
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[11:52] <ShorTie> hmmm, my 7x eyeloop just reappeared
[11:52] <ShorTie> I can see again, lol.
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[11:54] <shiftplusone> seeing is overrated
[11:55] <ShorTie> so says the blind man
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[12:53] <Noltari> Raspberry PI 2 with OpenWrt -> http://pastebin.com/TJ52SQxK :D
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[12:59] <ShorTie> Cool
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[13:24] <mortal> wow the pi2 is really fast
[13:24] <mortal> if you liked the pi1 and used it interactively
[13:25] <mortal> you will absolutely love the pi2
[13:25] <mortal> reminds me of back in the days using a 700 MHz duron
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[13:28] <H__> nice, seems i should get one :)
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[13:34] <Saphyel> best website about raspberry pi?
[13:34] <MarkSX> http://www.raspberrypi.org/
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[13:35] <solrize> 38 bogomips?
[13:35] <ShorTie> oh ya, how fast can we actually do nothing
[13:36] <ShorTie> don't ja just love it
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[13:36] <leio> ARM measures bogomips very differently.
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[13:36] <ShorTie> tisn't that a linux thingy ??
[13:37] <leio> Linux ARM architecture code udelay implementation.
[13:37] <ShorTie> rpi doesn't even show/have bogomips
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[14:31] <Hix> shiftplusone you about for a tar quick Q?
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[14:40] <qubitnerd> Hix: you can ask and if someone knows they could answer too
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[14:43] <Hix> trying to get to grips with the tar czpf backup of the SD card. I managed to back up both partitions, though the tarball has /media as its root followed by /boot and /partition-id-of-the-parition-from-ubuntu doesn't seem right, wanted to check I wasn't completely off track
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[15:09] <Hix> what about multiple wireless networks on the pi? Is it simple a case of adding more networks to the /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf file? Or do I need to do more? It would be nice to be able to fire it up and allow it to connect to wifi in different locations automatically
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[15:14] <djazz> Hix: that works yeah
[15:14] <djazz> AFAIK
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[15:15] <Hix> cool
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[15:29] <grumbel> Does anybody have some working example code for OpenGL-ES2 via SDL2?
[15:30] <grumbel> I can create a GL context manually with EGL, but I don't have any luck with SDL2 (compiled from source with RPI support enabled)
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[15:31] <Sonny_Jim> grumbel: What configure options did you use?
[15:31] <Sonny_Jim> I managed to get it working with:
[15:31] <Sonny_Jim> ./configure --disable-video-x11 --disable-video-opengl
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[15:31] <grumbel> ./configure --disable-video-x11 --prefix=/home/pi/run/SDL2-2.0.3/ --disable-pulseaudio --disable-esd --disable-video-opengl
[15:31] <Sonny_Jim> This was with SDL2-2.0.3
[15:32] <Sonny_Jim> Bear in mind that some of the test programs don't work properly
[15:32] <grumbel> SDL2-2.0.3 here as well
[15:33] <grumbel> SDL itself works for me, but I can't get a working OpenGL-ES2 context created with it
[15:33] <Sonny_Jim> You might want to try asking in #SDL
[15:33] <Sonny_Jim> But if it helps, I can confirm that it works, it's just a pita to set it up
[15:33] <grumbel> Sonny_Jim: does OpenGL work for you?
[15:34] <grumbel> I do you have any pointers to example code that should work?
[15:34] <Sonny_Jim> Erm
[15:34] <Sonny_Jim> Lemme dig out something a minute
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[15:35] <Sonny_Jim> https://github.com/SonnyJim/pisound/blob/master/src/gfx.c#L224
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[15:35] <grumbel> already looked at that, but that's just using SDL_Renderer, not OpenGL
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[15:35] <Sonny_Jim> Ah, sorry. Not much of a coder
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[15:36] <Bilby> http://hackaday.com/2015/02/05/benchmarking-the-raspberry-pi-2/
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[15:39] <blib> Bilby: Beaglebone black is still faster on integers!
[15:40] <Bilby> *using one core
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[15:42] <Bilby> granted, i have no idea how much multi-core affects integer performance
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[15:43] <blib> Bilby: why didn't pi 2 try to beat odroid/beaglebone in performance?
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[15:45] <Bilby> blib I'm assuming they were shooting to stay at the standard B price point
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[15:52] <blib> Bilby: odroid c1 was released earlier, at the same price point, and is faster?
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[16:04] <leio> shiftplusone: if you catch someone appropriate, or know yourself, what's the deal with wayland wsys not going mainline for over a year and not seeing any push forward; and relatedly why no pkg-config files for egl and glesv2 integrated yet? Having a very hard time keeping things in /opt and having other projects find it via usual pkg-config, forcing to play patchmonkey or various CPPFLAGS crazyness, as those other upstreams don't accept patches to
[16:04] <leio> use pkg-config on rpi because rpi-userland upstream doesn't have them
[16:04] <mwuk> blib: Pi 2 is mostly compatible with Pi 1 and manufactured in UK
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[16:04] <mwuk> Odroid is different ARM arch is it not?
[16:04] <leio> under manufactured, you mean components soldered onto the PCB
[16:05] <mwuk> lelo well yeah :P
[16:05] <Armand> Odroid use Samsung Exynos.
[16:05] <mwuk> but even then UK assembly costs more than China etc.
[16:05] <Sonny_Jim> Pi's are 'assembled' in the UK?
[16:05] <mwuk> so there’ll always be a slight penalty
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[16:06] <Sonny_Jim> I thought they got the bulk done in China, then like soldered on the ethernet port so they could get the subsidy from the government?
[16:06] <mwuk> Sonny_Jim: Yep, they’re “made” in an old Sony factory in Wales somewhere
[16:06] <mwuk> oh is that so
[16:06] <Sonny_Jim> Assembled can be a vague term
[16:06] <niston> eh
[16:06] <mwuk> yeah, I wouldn’t be surprised if you were spot on with that
[16:06] <niston> "Raspberry Pi 2 Model B (1000 MHz)*"
[16:06] <niston> why 1Ghz
[16:07] <Armand> Why not?
[16:07] <niston> stock clock is 900Mhz isn't it
[16:07] <niston> whats the point in benchmarking an OC'd Pi2 against a non-oc'd Pi?
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[16:07] <Armand> Huummm
[16:07] <Armand> Good point.
[16:07] <gyeben> hi
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[16:08] <Lausi> The numbers look more impressive.
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[16:09] <gyeben> currently, when I run a program that uses SDL for graphics (eg: supertux), I get a black screen
[16:09] <Noltari> I guess it's OC to deal with BeagleBone Black 1GHz stock clock
[16:09] <Noltari> that way it's more equitable
[16:09] <niston> impressive and pointless. just like the fuel consumption of a VW XL1 electric car!
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[16:10] <niston> Noltari: well but why not OC the Pi1 to 1000Mhz then?
[16:10] <Noltari> isn't 1Ghz much fo Pi1 without any cooler?
[16:11] <niston> nope
[16:11] <Noltari> dunno, I've never OC it
[16:11] <niston> cooling doesn't help I mean :)
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[16:13] <Sonny_Jim> You don't really need to cool the Pi from what I've read, unless you are running it in a desert or something
[16:14] <blib> http://www.amazon.com/Tobestronger-WXD3-13-Multi-Wirewound-Potentiometers/dp/B00N8LGNX6 - is there a better place to buy these in the us?
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[16:15] <grumbel> gyeben: found a working example, SDL2-2.0.3/test/testgles2.c creates a rotating cube
[16:15] <Sonny_Jim> grumbel: Like i said, most of the examples don't work for one reason or another
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[17:19] <Sasha> Hai, I'm having a bit of an issue with a 148f:7601 Ralink Technology, Corp. wifi dongle
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[17:20] <Sasha> I tried a bunch of different solutions (https://github.com/jamesfoley/raspberry-pi-MT7601 and http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=49864 and http://askubuntu.com/questions/457061/ralink-148f7601-wifi-adaptor-installation and others) but I can't get it to work
[17:20] <SpeedEvil> What power suply are you using?
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[17:21] <Sasha> Farnell 2a 5v
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[17:22] <PovAddict> you didn't say what your issue is
[17:22] <Sasha> well it's not recognised by ifconfig
[17:22] <Sasha> and in dmesg I can see that it's driver isn't even loaded
[17:23] <PovAddict> raspbian?
[17:23] <Sasha> yup
[17:23] <Sasha> Linux raspberrypi-wifi 3.18.5+ #744 PREEMPT Fri Jan 30 18:19:07 GMT 2015 armv6l GNU/Linux
[17:23] <PovAddict> do you have firmware-ralink installed?
[17:23] <Sasha> yup
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[17:23] <Sasha> firmware-ralink is already the newest version.
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[17:25] <Sonny_Jim> Have you unplugged/replugged after installing the firmware?
[17:26] <Sasha> I've rebooted but not unplugged it - does it change anything?
[17:26] <PovAddict> no
[17:26] <Sonny_Jim> No, I think rebooting should be enough
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[17:26] <Sonny_Jim> What does dmesg look like when you plug it in?
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[17:28] <Lobosque> what is the name of this little connector here? https://www.adafruit.com/images/970x728/1512-02.jpg
[17:29] <Sasha> Sonny_Jim: can I send you via pm? I don't want any personal info leaking
[17:30] <pksato> the white connector? huum.. ah... is...
[17:30] <Sasha> jst?
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[17:31] <Sonny_Jim> There shouldn't be any personal info in dmesg tbh
[17:31] <Lobosque> haha pksato I want to put these in some of my bare cables but I don't know what to search for
[17:31] <Sasha> ok ok here it is http://sprunge.us/TDIM
[17:31] <Sonny_Jim> 668.973299] mt7601Usta: disagrees about version of symbol module_layout
[17:31] <PovAddict> huh
[17:31] <Sonny_Jim> That's interesting
[17:32] <Sasha> yeah I just noticed, looks like it's a incompatibility between what the driver was compiled on and what it's run on
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[17:35] <blib> what's the best way to debug the serial port connection? I've a controller that I'm sending serial commands to, no output.
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[18:52] <_Trullo> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Raspberry-Pi-512-rev3-RPI3-Box-case-shell-generation-B-acrylic-shell-latest-box-2-heat/1999391505.html
[18:53] <_Trullo> just ordered that, can't beat that price, free shipping aswell
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[18:56] <Yohio> I have that case for original B, it's a good case for the price
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[18:57] <Yohio> aliexpress is a funny place though, it says free shipping for me but won't offer it for me (not that I care, I already have that one and there are thousands of other sellers as well)
[18:58] <Yohio> *free shipping for you
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[19:07] <PovAddict> lol
[19:07] <PovAddict> $2 case, $33 shipping to Argentina
[19:09] <abnormal> wow.. might as well buy the 3D printer and make your own and sell in Argentina.. you prolly make some dough...
[19:10] <PovAddict> my sister is in the US for a few weeks, I'll probably order a rpi2 and case and ship it to her hotel :)
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[19:13] <abnormal> lol
[19:14] <abnormal> hope it gets there b4 she leaves, lol
[19:14] <Bilby> PovAddict I hear that a lot of the time the majority cost of electronics in SA is shipping. It's a shame. Some of the DIY stuff I've seen from Argentina and Brazil is so dang creative.
[19:14] <PovAddict> abnormal: shipping within the US tends to be fast
[19:16] <abnormal> sometimes, not always... depends where she is and what weather conditions are for delivery to succeed...
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[19:20] <abnormal> usually takes Newark to deliver 5 days to me...
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[19:30] <woox2k> does raspbian have any safety measures builtin that cleanly shut the device down if something occurs?
[19:30] <woox2k> i have a problem with my pi that shuts itself down randomly
[19:31] <Bilby> I don't think so, besides something causing a kernel panic. Are you supplying enough current to the Pi?
[19:31] <woox2k> and it does it completely cleanly, sending broadcast message and all... normal halt command
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[19:31] <woox2k> pi should have enough power yes
[19:31] <woox2k> power led doesnt blink or anything, 2.1A charger attached to it
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[19:31] <ecstaticpessimst> Does anyone know the name of a switch which looks like this https://imgur.com/cJMgAo0 kind of like a limit switch except the trigger is small triangular wire?
[19:32] <woox2k> i have B+ (power led goes out when supply voltage drops)
[19:32] <woox2k> i was messing in console like 5mins ago and root just sent me a message about system halt and then it shut itself down
[19:33] <PovAddict> weird
[19:33] <woox2k> theres no way someone has broken the root shell though
[19:33] <Bilby> O_o that ain't right
[19:33] <woox2k> internet doesnt even allow any external connections
[19:33] <woox2k> from outside i mean
[19:34] <woox2k> and root login is turned off from the sshd conf
[19:34] <woox2k> like it normally is
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[19:35] <woox2k> so thats why i thought maybe something is failing and raspbian may have some safety measures builtin
[19:35] <woox2k> i know normal linux doesnt do that
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[19:37] <woox2k> if not then i'm out of ideas :D
[19:37] <Sonny_Jim> You didn't 3-finger salute by accident?
[19:38] <woox2k> nope and i thing i cannot do that over ssh anyway
[19:38] <woox2k> think*
[19:38] <woox2k> i was logged in remotely
[19:38] <Sonny_Jim> If I didn't know any better, I'd say someone pushed the power button
[19:38] <Sonny_Jim> Except there isn't one
[19:39] <woox2k> exactly
[19:39] <Sonny_Jim> Is there a keyboard plugged into it locally?
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[19:40] <woox2k> i would think thats it's a isolated incident but my pi has shut itself down randomly before as well, i didn't see the broadcast before though
[19:40] <woox2k> i'm sure it was the same case
[19:40] <woox2k> i just wasnt logged in before at the same time
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[19:41] <Sonny_Jim> cron job gone wonky?
[19:41] <woox2k> hopefully not but i will look at it when i get it up again
[19:41] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm
[19:42] <woox2k> i have no shutdown commands in any of my scripts though
[19:42] <woox2k> and i only use like 2 cron jobs
[19:42] <Sonny_Jim> I wonder if it actually shutdown or it just halted and you lost ssh access
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[19:42] <Sonny_Jim> anyway, you might find somthing in /var/log that explains it
[19:43] <woox2k> i got the normal kernel message when you shutdown the machine "the machine is going to halt now" or something similar
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[19:43] <woox2k> and it said halt nor reboot
[19:43] <woox2k> not*
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[19:44] <woox2k> and message was from root@.... so it was root user giving the command
[19:44] <Sonny_Jim> Like I said, have a look in /var/log, you'll find out where/how the command was issued
[19:45] <woox2k> i will
[19:45] <woox2k> at least i got the answer i was looking for from here
[19:45] <woox2k> at least there is no known thing that does that in raspbian
[19:46] <Sonny_Jim> not AFAIK
[19:46] <Sonny_Jim> There's thermal protection
[19:46] <Sonny_Jim> But I don't think it initiates a shutdown, rather just halts the CPU
[19:47] <woox2k> yeah kernel panics and things like that are to be expected on hw failure
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[19:49] <Sonny_Jim> Well, what I mean is that I think it just cuts power to the system, so you wouldn't see any messages
[19:49] <Sonny_Jim> but I'm not 100% sure of that
[19:49] * Sonny_Jim looks
[19:50] <Sonny_Jim> What is your temp_limit set to?
[19:50] <woox2k> default, i havent changed it
[19:50] <woox2k> anyway the cpu temp is 22-23 degrees
[19:50] <woox2k> no way thats a problem
[19:50] <woox2k> C
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[19:52] <Sonny_Jim> Well, temp_limit could have been set absurdly low for some reason and that may have caused it
[19:52] <Sonny_Jim> in fact, I wonder if I can force it to shutdown on mine
[19:52] <woox2k> how do i check it?
[19:53] <benighted> Yay! 2x Pi 2 showed up today.... What should I do... Maybe a docker cluster?
[19:53] <Sonny_Jim> woox2k: Not sure, I'm just looking into now
[19:54] <woox2k> i can only see how to set it but not how to read it
[19:54] <Sonny_Jim> cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/trip_point_0_temp
[19:54] <Sonny_Jim> will tell you what it's set to
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[19:55] <woox2k> ugh what units does it use? it says 85000
[19:55] <woox2k> does it mean 85.000?
[19:55] <Sonny_Jim> yup
[19:55] <woox2k> then it's fine
[19:55] <Sonny_Jim> You can set it using the temp_limit option in config.txt apparently
[19:55] <woox2k> yeah i saw that but 85 is ok
[19:55] <Sonny_Jim> But even then, from what I've read it just turns down dynamic overclocking/overvoltage
[19:56] <woox2k> okay
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[19:58] <benighted> hey chief, what up?
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[19:58] <Sonny_Jim> You haven't got anything funky plugged into the USB?
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[20:36] <Veryevil> evening
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[20:38] <Veryevil> i was wondering if any one know how much current can be taken from the 3.3v rail on the B2
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[20:40] <Sonny_Jim> presumably whatever the 3.3v fuse is rated at
[20:41] <Veryevil> cannot find the schematic or a part number for the regulator
[20:42] <Sonny_Jim> Schematic should be availble
[20:42] <Sonny_Jim> https://github.com/raspberrypi/documentation/tree/master/hardware/raspberrypi/schematics
[20:42] <Sonny_Jim> None of those?
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[20:43] <Veryevil> only covers up to B+ and that doesnt list the part number on the regulator
[20:44] <Sonny_Jim> Looks like they haven't released the schematics for the Pi2 yet then
[20:46] <Veryevil> is there no specs for making HATs?
[20:47] <Sonny_Jim> Human African Trypanosomiasis?
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[20:47] <Veryevil> add on boards
[20:48] <Sonny_Jim> Just curious, what's the acronym?
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[20:48] <Sonny_Jim> Because nothing I can think of fits HAT
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[20:51] <Amnesia> hi, question is anyone over here familiar with qemu 2.x and the emulation of rpi's ?
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[20:56] * Xark notes HAT specs are at https://github.com/raspberrypi/hats
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[20:56] <Sonny_Jim> Ah ok
[20:56] <Xark> Sonny_Jim: I suspect it is retro-nym Hardware Attached on Top
[20:56] <Sonny_Jim> Hardware Attached on Top
[20:56] <Sonny_Jim> I wondered WTH it was
[20:57] <BigShip> do any of you use your RPi for home automation?
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[20:57] <Sonny_Jim> Not me, but I'm sure people do
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[21:06] <benighted> BigShip, get A+ pi's for that
[21:06] <benighted> BigShip, anything more is overkill for most applications
[21:07] <BigShip> benighted: Was going to just use my B because I have an extra one. Wasn't sure how people go about using it for that though. Thought it might be possible to use it instead of WeMo or something
[21:09] <benighted> BigShip, yeah... I got my old B, two B+'s, and my 2x B+ v2's showed up today
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[21:09] <benighted> BigShip, any projects interest you?
[21:10] <meowrobot> i'm thinking of buying a second pi-v2 for streaming things on my television
[21:10] <Amnesia> is no one over here emulating arm1176 on his/her computer:)?
[21:10] <meowrobot> since i've been looking for a solution to stream hitbox/twitch or even just watch youtube on the side for a while
[21:10] <BigShip> benighted: I just kickstarted Neeo and so I've been looking for things to control other than my monitors. I really wanted to get into controlling my lights. Simple on off for the most part
[21:10] <meowrobot> it'd be very space efficient.
[21:10] <seitensei> Amnesia: You could, but it's quicker to use hardware
[21:11] <Amnesia> seitensei: not if you don't have a monitor anywhere near
[21:11] <seitensei> I've looked into it, and a lot of it seems to be focused towards running linux ARM on hardware
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[21:11] <seitensei> Amnesia: I use my Pi headless...
[21:11] <seitensei> So I don't use a monitor for it anyways ^^
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[21:11] <seitensei> ssh <3
[21:11] <seitensei> serial <3
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[21:11] <Amnesia> that requires a working os^^
[21:12] <Amnesia> all documentation on qemu and arm1176 seems to be focused on qemu 1.x
[21:12] <seitensei> Which you can make using an SD card
[21:12] <seitensei> Certainly different, if you're planning on writing your own OS
[21:12] <Amnesia> and qemu 2.x doesn't seem to have arm 1176 support
[21:13] <Amnesia> that's exactly what I'm doing:)
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[21:13] <seitensei> Amnesia: There's a Qemu branch/fork with some pi support
[21:13] <Amnesia> o0
[21:13] <divx118> BigShip I have build something similar to http://pihome.harkemedia.de/
[21:13] <Amnesia> seitensei: link?
[21:14] <seitensei> but it appears geared more towards towards running linux ARM in qemu, as opposed to purely emulating the CPU
[21:14] <seitensei> Amnesia: https://github.com/Torlus/qemu/tree/rpi
[21:14] <Amnesia> ty
[21:16] <seitensei> There's also this http://xecdesign.com/compiling-qemu/
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[21:33] <l_r> what's up
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[21:34] <Encapsulation> is the rpi2 actually going to ever be available to purchase in the USA for 35 dollars like it should be?
[21:34] <Encapsulation> or is it going to stay at 50
[21:35] <ozzzy> Encapsulation, I bought 2 for 35
[21:35] <ozzzy> where are you looking
[21:35] <Encapsulation> ebay, and there was a site I found but the shipping was 10+
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[21:35] <ozzzy> I just ordered mine from Element14
[21:36] <_Trullo> don't forget the 2 dollar case
[21:36] <_Trullo> http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/6496092171.html?orderId=65819831114697
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[21:37] <Encapsulation> 45 shipped from mcm... I wonder if it will go 35 free shipping like all over ebay on the pi 1
[21:37] <Encapsulation> 'just' 10 dollars, but thats almost 1/3 of a pi 1
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[21:38] <ozzzy> shipping is shipping... part of life
[21:39] <Roxxor91> Hey! I downloaded a minimal raspbian image and equipped it with my favorite set of packages. I now have the standard boot partition and a 900MB ext4 partition. How can I now create a image out of those 2 partitions? By googling I could just find commands for creation of an image of the whole sd card, which would be to big.
[21:40] <Sonny_Jim> I used to use a Norton Ghost like thing for linux, can't remember the name
[21:40] <Roxxor91> Is it somehow possible with dd? That would be the easiest version I guess...
[21:41] <Sonny_Jim> Sure, then you could gzip it afterward
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[21:41] <Sonny_Jim> But I'm sure someone has written a guide somewhere
[21:41] <Amnesia> seitensei: got any experience with the fork?
[21:41] <seitensei> Encapsulation: I got mine for 35 from Newark (+tax +shipping, not included)
[21:42] <seitensei> Amnesia: nope, I don't use it
[21:42] <Amnesia> ah k
[21:42] <seitensei> When I did bare metal, I used the bootloader to run code over serial
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[21:42] * Amnesia is quite surprised theres so little people that want to emulate an rpi..
[21:42] <Roxxor91> Sonny Jim: well gzip doesnt really help as the unpacked image is still 8GB (size of the sd card). I would need dd to directly create the image just of the first two partitions. Is this somehow possible?
[21:43] <Amnesia> seitensei: first I just want to emulate a linux distro
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[21:43] <seitensei> Amnesia: It's a cheap box, so I don't think there's a lot of incentive
[21:43] <seitensei> not to mention that it's unbrickable, and has serial
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[21:44] <Amnesia> hm, guess I'll take a look at the serial port then
[21:44] <seitensei> Amnesia: https://github.com/dwelch67/raspberrypi
[21:44] <seitensei> you might check that out
[21:44] <seitensei> He has code for loading code over serial
[21:44] <Amnesia> ty
[21:47] <phire> codeception
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[21:51] <H__> can we choose low or high initialization for GPIO.setup(pin, GPIO.OUT) ?
[21:53] <BigShip> divx118: that looks pretty cool! Was hoping I could do it without buying a lot of hardware though
[21:53] <Bilby> H__ yes
[21:53] <BigShip> Bilby: Hi!!
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[21:54] <H__> Bilby: thanks. do you perhaps also have any documentation pointers on that ?
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[21:54] <Bilby> 'sup BigShip
[21:55] <BigShip> not much, just looking around for home automation ideas :)
[21:55] <BigShip> you?
[21:55] <Bilby> H__ hmm... if you mean right at initialization maybe not. I usually just set them high right after i initialize them
[21:55] <Bilby> BigShip, walking a @#%$ mac business owner through troubleshooting software
[21:55] <BigShip> ouch.
[21:55] <Bilby> yarp
[21:55] <Bilby> I installed LAMP on my pi though, running a test site
[21:56] <H__> Bilby: I'm driving a relais, I need it to start 'low'. Perhaps I should use a pull-down resistor ?
[21:56] <Bilby> maaaybe. or a logic inverter?
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[21:58] <Bilby> H__ if you set GPIO.setup() and GPIO.output() on the next line, it should be almost immediate
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[21:58] <Lobosque> guys, I bought this touchscreen https://www.adafruit.com/products/2354 and this decoder https://www.adafruit.com/products/2219 . I get a white screen connecting my Pi. Pi works fine with my monitor and touchscreen works fine with my computer. so they are both OK but not working well together. any thoughts on how to fix this?
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[21:59] <H__> Bilby: i'm trying that now, but it may be too long already. The relais drives a 3-phase motor speed controller and it might already see this as a signal
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[21:59] <Bilby> H__ look at this page -> https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/raspberry-gpio
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[22:00] <Bilby> it indicates you can set up a third param on GPIO.setup to specify a pull-up or pull-down resistor
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[22:01] <Bilby> but you could always do an inverter or use a second pin with a logic option to enable the first
[22:01] <H__> ah, trying that !
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[22:04] <H__> no effect ?! I tried both pull_up_down=GPIO.PUD_DOWN and pull_up_down=GPIO.PUD_UP . The example is about GPIO.IN whereas I'm using GPIO.OUT, I wonder if the pull_up_down is only for GPIO.IN
[22:05] <Sonny_Jim> Pulldown/pullup resistors don't set the state of a pin
[22:05] * Sonny_Jim wonders where GordonDrogon is
[22:06] <Sonny_Jim> But anyway, just set the state of the pin either before or just after you enable it and you should be fine
[22:06] <Sonny_Jim> The problem you have with the relay is design related
[22:06] <Sonny_Jim> What you want to do is to set the pin state on boot, which isn't possible
[22:06] <Sonny_Jim> Use an inverter chip with a enable line as someone suggested
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[22:07] <ali1234> pull up/pull down is for inputs
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[22:08] <pksato> H__: set pin to low before set it as output.
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[22:08] <H__> pksato: I tried that : RuntimeError: The GPIO channel has not been set up as an OUTPUT
[22:09] <ozzzy> does tightvnc send the entire desktop every update or just what's changed?
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[22:09] <pksato> humm...
[22:09] <ali1234> H__: that's a bug then, the GPIO driver should not force you to set direction before setting the state
[22:09] <ali1234> and i mean it's a design bug
[22:10] <ali1234> let me check the GPIO docs...
[22:10] <phire> "we prefer the more PC term 'design issue'"
[22:10] <utack> phoronix has a nice test. http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1502103-KWAR-140722031
[22:11] <pksato> H__: python ?
[22:11] <H__> pksato: yes, python3 on raspbian
[22:12] <phire> is mp3 encoding a single threadded task?
[22:12] <utack> yes
[22:13] <utack> with lame at least
[22:13] <ali1234> "All GPIOs revert to general-purpose inputs on power-on reset. The default pull states are also applied, which are detailed in the alternate function table in the ARM peripherals datasheet. Most GPIOs have a default pull applied."
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[22:14] <pksato> GPIO.setup(channel, GPIO.OUT, initial=GPIO.HIGH)
[22:14] <dli> how to use all 1GB of pi2, instead of 750MB ?
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[22:14] <ali1234> dli: edit /boot/config.txt but you can't use all the 1GB
[22:15] <ali1234> gpu_mem=128
[22:15] <dli> ali1234, that's weird, I remember you can at least use 1024 - 128 = 896MB for 32 bit kernel
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[22:15] <pksato> H__: you set initial output state of pin on setup, with 3th parameter initial= .
[22:16] <H__> pksato: that seems to work. however I get this : ./test4.py:18: RuntimeWarning: This channel is already in use, continuing anyway. Use GPIO.setwarnings(False) to disable warnings.
[22:16] <ali1234> dli: gpu_mem must be a power of 2 and it must be at least 16 or 32, i don't remember which
[22:16] <H__> with line 18 being : GPIO.setup(left_relay, GPIO.OUT, initial=GPIO.LOW)
[22:16] <dli> ali1234, I see, it's 1024 - 128 - 128 = 768MB
[22:17] <pksato> H__: you cleanup pins on exit? even on error?
[22:17] <H__> pksato: ah right, i did not. The end of my test program has "GPIO.cleanup()" but i quit()-ed out halfway !
[22:18] <dli> my pi2 can only run at 700MHz to avoid overheating/crashing :(
[22:18] <ali1234> dli: if you put an invalid number for gpu_mem it will just use the default amount
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[22:18] <H__> pksato: works perfectly now. thanks !
[22:19] <dli> ali1234, I put gpu_mem=64 , which seems to be the default
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[22:28] <ali1234> A+ and USB wifi, composite video out, RF modulator, camera board, and h264 streaming with gstreamer - total power use: 350mA
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[22:29] <Sonny_Jim> How are you measuring that?
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[22:29] <ali1234> one of those cheap USB charger doctors
[22:30] <ali1234> it's probably not very accurate
[22:30] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm, I wouldn't trust one of those
[22:30] <Sonny_Jim> More accurate reading can be had by splicing in a multimeter
[22:30] <ali1234> it's not going to be 100% out
[22:30] <phire> it doesn't sound too far off
[22:30] <ali1234> just for you i will test the accuracy of it with my meter
[22:31] <H__> :)
[22:31] <Sonny_Jim> Seems to be almost too close
[22:31] <phire> A+ uses quite a bit less power than the original B
[22:31] <ali1234> i'm impressed - i read the camera board uses 300mA and a USB wifi will use 300mA
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[22:31] <Sonny_Jim> As 350mA is part of the USB spec iirc
[22:31] <ali1234> Sonny_Jim: nope, 100mA or 500mA
[22:32] <phire> which clocked in at ~600mA for me, with extra usb hub, gps, usb2serial converter and networked enabled
[22:32] <ali1234> RF modulator is from an N64
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[22:33] <ali1234> runs off 5V, must have low low power use
[22:33] <TedTheTechie> Hey!
[22:33] <pepijndevos> Wait, so the proper way to install wiringpi is to git clone the source? On Arch there is a package, but not or Raspbian??
[22:33] <TedTheTechie> What's the minimum voltage requirement for the Pi 2?
[22:33] <phire> same as the b+
[22:33] <TedTheTechie> 5v?
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[22:34] <phire> complains at anything less than 5v
[22:34] <phire> works on less
[22:34] <Sonny_Jim> pepijndevos: Depends what you mean by 'proper' I suppose. The author probably can't be bothered to keep a package up to date
[22:34] <phire> actually works on lower voltages than the original b
[22:34] <TedTheTechie> How long do you assume a 50000mAh battery would run the Pi?
[22:35] <phire> I believe I got the b+ running on 3.5v
[22:35] <phire> crashed with anything less
[22:35] <pepijndevos> I had thought that messing with the GPIO is such a big part of what Raspi is about, that it would be included.
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[22:35] <Sonny_Jim> TedTheTechie: You can work it out, although I doubt that battery you have is 50,000mAh
[22:35] <pepijndevos> Or are people using different libraries for that?
[22:36] <Sonny_Jim> pepijndevos: You can use a variety of different languages/libraries, but a lot of people use wiringPi
[22:36] <TedTheTechie> Sonny_Jim I'm aware, how long should a "50000mAh" battery last though?
[22:36] <Sonny_Jim> AFAIK there's no 'official' library
[22:36] <Sonny_Jim> TedTheTechie: It's a fairly simple equation
[22:36] <phire> also depends on the voltage of the battery
[22:37] <Sonny_Jim> First, work out how many Amps your Pi is using
[22:37] <TedTheTechie> I've yet to order my Pi :P
[22:37] <Sonny_Jim> http://spellfoundry.com/raspberry-pi-battery-runtime-calculator/
[22:37] <Sonny_Jim> Or you know, google ;-)
[22:37] <H__> phire: with 5v the minimum do you know what is max ? and what is advised ?
[22:37] <TedTheTechie> phire: http://www.ebay.com/itm/261728610924
[22:37] <PovAddict> Amnesia: I'm interesting in emulating the rpi
[22:37] <TedTheTechie> That's the battery I'm using
[22:37] <PovAddict> Amnesia: mainly so I can create SD images on my computer and then copy them to the SD
[22:38] <Amnesia> exactly:)
[22:38] <pepijndevos> Sonny_Jim, I want something in C that's fast and usable. WiringPi seems to fit the bill, it's just weird there is no package for it.
[22:38] <TedTheTechie> phire: Outputs 5V 1A (Max)
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[22:38] <Amnesia> PovAddict: there's http://xecdesign.com/qemu-emulating-raspberry-pi-the-easy-way/ but it's deprecated
[22:38] <Sonny_Jim> pepijndevos: Like I said, not every author can be bothere to package up their things to be included. I've used wiringPi for my C program and was happy with it
[22:39] <pepijndevos> ok
[22:39] <Sonny_Jim> Although performance isn't nowhere near what that benchmark page that is floating around
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[22:39] <PovAddict> ozzzy: VNC always sends only the parts that changed; tightvnc is even smarter than that and can do JPEG and other compression tricks
[22:39] <ali1234> Sonny_Jim: it reads about 10% below what my meter says
[22:39] <Sonny_Jim> What do you plan to use the GPIO for?
[22:39] <Sonny_Jim> ali1234: 10% is a fairly large error margin
[22:40] <ali1234> Sonny_Jim: what do you want for $1?
[22:40] <ali1234> it's enough for my needs
[22:40] <phire> aww, I only have 3 model b+'s left
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[22:40] <TedTheTechie> Question, working on a mobile computer with pi 2. Should I use a 7 inch non touchscreen with a keyboard and mouse, or 4 inch touchscreen?
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[22:41] <ali1234> TedTheTechie: i just measured that my A+ is using something less than 500mA so a 50000mAh battery would power it for at least 100 hours
[22:41] <phire> 1 model B 1.1
[22:41] <phire> and 1 model B 1.0
[22:41] <phire> need more Pi's
[22:41] <TedTheTechie> ali1234: Thanks <3
[22:42] <ali1234> 50000mAh battery would be quite large though, i don't know if my motors could handle it
[22:42] <TedTheTechie> Not using it for anything externally
[22:42] <ali1234> lithium ion would probably be okay
[22:42] <TedTheTechie> Just for powering the Pi and maybe a phone :P
[22:43] <Sonny_Jim> Bear in mind that the backlight on a screen will draw quite a bit of current
[22:43] <Lobosque> how do I configure epiphany to start in fullscreen mode?
[22:43] <TedTheTechie> Speaking of that
[22:43] <ali1234> phones usually have a ~2000 mAh battery
[22:43] <ali1234> and tablets ~10000 mAh
[22:43] <TedTheTechie> 'Sonny_Jim, Should I go 4 inch screen with touch or 7 inch without touch?
[22:43] <Sonny_Jim> Yeah, which is why I'm slightly sceptical of a 50Ah battery
[22:43] <phire> I bet that's 50000mAh at 3.7v
[22:44] <phire> not 5v
[22:44] <ali1234> absolutely yeah
[22:44] <ali1234> and if it is lithium ion it's probably a big lie anyway
[22:44] <Sonny_Jim> TedTheTechie: I guess it's all down to form factor and screen res
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[22:45] <ali1234> http://www.amazon.co.uk/UPG-Mobility-Scooter-Batteries-UB12500/dp/B00CDK4FEW
[22:45] <ali1234> 12V 50Ah
[22:46] <TedTheTechie> Totally forgot to check that
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[22:46] <Sonny_Jim> IIRC, you can interface a Nintendo DS Lite screen with the Pi and those things are *dirt* cheap
[22:46] <Sonny_Jim> Actually, maybe it's just the touchscreen overlay
[22:46] * Sonny_Jim looks
[22:46] <TedTheTechie> 800 x 480 is the 7 inch.. same res as the 4 inch but 320x480
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[22:47] <ali1234> http://www.mincost.co.uk/horizont-lantern-battery-6v-50ah-electric-fencing.ir
[22:47] <Sonny_Jim> Those seem suspiciously DS sized
[22:47] <ali1234> TedTheTechie: so what kind of battery do you have?
[22:47] <TedTheTechie> ali1234 none right now, trying to find a mobile one for the pi
[22:47] <ali1234> (that second one is not rechargable)
[22:48] <phire> ebay special: http://www.ebay.com/itm/261728610924
[22:48] <TedTheTechie> Planning on buying the pi once I get paid
[22:48] <TedTheTechie> That's the one I had in my cart :P
[22:48] <TedTheTechie> The one I'm talking about
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[22:48] <ali1234> yeah there's no way that is 50aH
[22:49] <ali1234> i think i';ve seen a teardown of that actually
[22:49] <ali1234> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDTTz_ftj3E <- yeah i'd say that's the same
[22:51] <ali1234> TedTheTechie: before you buy anything like that, you need to research 18650 batteries, cos that is what they all use
[22:51] <TedTheTechie> watching it now :P
[22:51] <ali1234> when you know about 18650s it's easy to detect the obvious fakes
[22:51] <ali1234> you can also buy power banks without the batteries and scavenge them from old laptop battery packs
[22:51] <ali1234> that guy has lots of videos about it on his channel
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[22:52] <TedTheTechie> Alright
[22:53] <TedTheTechie> Trying not to go overkill on the battery, and one reasonable one to power the pi for 7 hours
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[22:53] <ali1234> 18650s are usually around 2000mAh - 2600mAh
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[22:54] <TedTheTechie> Those good or bad?
[22:54] <ali1234> depends where you get them
[22:54] <ali1234> there are a LOT of fakes
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[22:55] <ali1234> and a lot of sellers will just rebrand old laptop batteries
[22:55] <ali1234> so you might as well cut out the middle man and do that yourself
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[22:56] <ali1234> 18650s are like big AA batteries except 3.7V and lithium ion
[22:56] <ali1234> you need a charger/protection circuit to use them
[22:56] <TedTheTechie> http://www.ebay.com/itm/5600mAh-Portable-External-Battery-Charger-Power-Bank-for-Cell-Phone-iPhone-HTC-/371072358869?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item5665a2d9d5
[22:56] <TedTheTechie> Probably fake?
[22:56] <ali1234> absolutely no way to know
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[22:57] <ali1234> TedTheTechie: you can buy the case/circuits and add your own 18650s... search for "DIY USB power bank"
[22:57] <ali1234> and then search for "laptop battery job lot"
[22:57] <TedTheTechie> I'd rather not
[22:58] <ali1234> this is exactly what you'll get if you buy something already made, except you'll pay 10x as much
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[22:59] <ali1234> eg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDCSDTV0yUo
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[23:01] <TedTheTechie> ali1234 18650 is bad right?
[23:01] <ali1234> bad?
[23:01] <TedTheTechie> like not such a good battery ?
[23:01] <ali1234> 18650 just describes the physical shape of the battery
[23:02] <ali1234> it's like saying "AA is bad"
[23:02] <TedTheTechie> k
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[23:17] <benighted> Is the newest NOOBS rpi 2 compatible?
[23:17] <ali1234> yes
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[23:22] <benighted> hmm, well the noobs_lite just failed
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[23:24] <ali1234> benighted: http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/ says which models each distro supports
[23:24] <dli> my pi2 displays a color block on screen, what's it? http://picpaste.com/20150210_234244-7jUm6cSU.jpg (see the color block close to the upper right corner)
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[23:25] <ali1234> dli: i think it means the power supply isn't good enough
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[23:25] <ali1234> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=82373
[23:26] <dli> ali1234, thanks, I got overheating already, with insufficient power. Too bad
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[23:27] <diffra> overheating?
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[23:27] <diffra> the SoC that the pis use is rated for pretty high temps, so what you may consider hot is just normal operating parameters.
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[23:29] <dli> diffra, it crashes, unless I set the arm_freq=700 (for pi2)
[23:29] <diffra> I'd wager that's a result of a bad power supply as well
[23:29] <diffra> lower frequency = lower power draw
[23:29] <benighted> finally got it
[23:29] <benighted> geez, must have been a flakey usb
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[23:30] <dli> diffra, thanks, I will try again.
[23:30] <diffra> gl
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[23:30] <dli> diffra, I already tried many power supplies, and USB3 ports from computers also, the same
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[23:31] <phire> hmm, buildroot didn't like my toolchain
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[23:32] <phire> "/dev/null uses VFP register arguments, /tmp/ccTwrMey.o does not"
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[23:44] <Tenkawa> so... whats the reports on the quad pi so far? good/bad/indifferent?
[23:44] <Tenkawa> I'm still trying to acquire one to start my own devel work
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[23:48] <libc> it's camera shy
[23:49] <Tenkawa> elaborate?
[23:49] <Tenkawa> er ,
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[23:52] <benighted> not very photogenic... xenon flash kills it
[23:52] <Tenkawa> oh that problem...
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[23:52] <Tenkawa> yeah... where they would be running here thats no problem haahaa
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[23:53] <benighted> Tenkawa, basically it should have been released last year, still has no gigabit, and still a bit underpowered when compared to something like odroid c1
[23:53] <Tenkawa> ah
[23:53] <Tenkawa> thanks for the info..
[23:53] <Tenkawa> cheersall
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[23:53] <seitensei> hmm
[23:53] <seitensei> Anyone good with calculus/math?
[23:54] <ozzzy> gigabit isn't really needed
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[23:55] <ozzzy> seitensei, what's up
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[23:55] <Bilby> I think the RasPi is a stronger option for me because of the level of support, now that it's about on-par with the Odroid
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[23:55] <seitensei> Trying to figure out how to show that f'(x) = f(x)^2 with algebra lol
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[23:56] <phire> define that f' == f(x) * f(x)
[23:57] <phire> I'm not so good with math
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[23:57] <Bilby> I don't even know what f' is
[23:58] <phire> that was my point
[23:58] <seitensei> Bilby: derivative of a function
[23:58] <Bilby> I can calculate ohms law and some geometry and that's all i've needed so far as an adult lol
[23:58] <Bilby> Ohms law and Pythagorean's theorum
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[23:58] <phire> I occasionally find my self needing to solve massive simultaneous equations at work.
[23:58] <seitensei> Haha.
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