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IRC Log for 2015-02-16

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[0:01] <chipmadness> anyone here know a decent amount about sonar?
[0:01] <McBride36> heh, nice to see you here chipmadness
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[0:02] <chipmadness> McBride36: hows it going
[0:03] <McBride36> good
[0:03] <McBride36> you still want to do sonar for the underwater cave right?
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[0:05] <chipmadness> McBrike36, wrong person,
[0:05] <chipmadness> I never said any of that :p
[0:06] <chipmadness> I want to make a home security system
[0:06] <chipmadness> using my wifi network
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[0:08] <McBride36> heh, oops
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[0:16] <rcombs> anyone here know MMAL?
[0:17] <rcombs> I'm getting "buffer header callback not defined" errors, but I called mmal_port_enable with a callback on both ports
[0:17] <rcombs> (using vc.ril.video_decode)
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[0:40] <rcombs> ah, needed to register a callback on the control port as well (not mentioned in the example code)
[0:40] <rcombs> apparently I'm getting MMAL_EIO
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[0:43] <ShorTie> oops, wrong plug, lol.
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[0:47] <Sonny_Jim> chipmadness: I've seen people talk about using WiFi to detect people in a room, not seen any actual working hardware though
[0:47] <Sonny_Jim> http://hackaday.com/2012/08/11/seeing-through-walls-using-wifi/
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[0:48] <Sonny_Jim> http://hackaday.com/2009/10/01/see-through-walls-via-wireless-network/
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[0:54] <niston> Yeah Science!
[0:59] <ShorTie> science is cool, it makes the earth go around
[0:59] <niston> Yes Mr. White :P
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[1:05] <CaNsA> guys, would i rip a hole in time and space if i have a "temp_limit=80" and "arm_freq_min=1000" "and arm_freq=1000"
[1:07] <Sonny_Jim> The wiki has some suggested settings iirc
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[1:08] <CaNsA> Sonny_Jim, you wanna see my cat who is also called Sonny Jim?
[1:09] <Sonny_Jim> I only ever look at pictures of cats if they have the name "Chairman Meow"
[1:09] <CaNsA> I have a Dylan SupaCat
[1:10] <CaNsA> and a King Fake Genie of The Sofa
[1:11] <McBride36> i'm fairly sure my cat sat on my pi/router
[1:11] <McBride36> and borked the SD card
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[1:13] <CaNsA> i have 4 of the tollmaster fuckface overlords
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[1:23] <Xark> McBride36: Cats tend to hate wearing anti-static collars. :)
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[1:24] <McBride36> more like they'll just sit on anything warm
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[1:35] <DropBear> or square
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[2:35] <anunnaki> hi, is the /etc/network/interfaces file supposed to be empty ? im following this guide in setting up apache and it said to "replace the line iface eth0.." but there were no lines to replace period. so i basically just added the line
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[3:10] <Sonny_Jim> chipmadness: Don't PM me, ask in channel
[3:10] <Sonny_Jim> I have no further information apart from those links I posted
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[3:11] <chipmadness> Sonny_Jim
[3:11] <chipmadness> I did not see the links
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[3:14] <djbpython> trying to ssh to my pi via ip address which has worked in the past but getting no route to host error. pi is on wifi and has internet connectivity
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[3:14] <djbpython> pi cant ping my laptop, any thoughts?
[3:14] <Sonny_Jim> chipmadness: http://hackaday.com/2012/08/11/seeing-through-walls-using-wifi/
[3:14] <Sonny_Jim> chipmadness: http://hackaday.com/2009/10/01/see-through-walls-via-wireless-network/
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[3:15] <Sonny_Jim> djbpython: Are you sure the Pi is actually working/connected to the network?
[3:15] <Giddles> i mosty must try ssh 3-4 times to get a con ;)
[3:15] <djbpython> Sonny_Jim, yup im on the pi now and can see it connected to the wifi network
[3:16] <djbpython> Giddles, yea tried a bunch, rebooted the pi a few times, tried a different power supply
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[3:16] <Giddles> i accept it ;)
[3:16] <chipmadness> thanks Sonny_Jim
[3:18] <BurtyB> djbpython, different IP?
[3:18] <djbpython> oh hmm i wonder if this is related to docker...
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[3:22] <djbpython> yup, docker0 bridge is conflicting with my wlan0 bridge
[3:22] <djbpython> hmm
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[3:24] <anunnaki> i disabled dhcp and entered in my static ip that i set in /etc/network/interfaces and have ports 22 and 80 forwarded in my router of the same static ip which is 192.168.1.13. but now that i changed /etc/network/interfaces.. the pi wont connect to my wifi network
[3:25] <anunnaki> oh this is in raspbmc settings under "programs" in Raspbmc.. anyone know what the problem is?
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[3:29] <aberrant> boo
[3:29] <aberrant> my rpi2 keeps freezing
[3:30] <aberrant> 100% reproduceable
[3:30] <PovAddict> aberrant: doing what?
[3:30] <aberrant> during dpkg-upgrade
[3:30] <aberrant> extracting wolfram alpha
[3:30] <aberrant> also during a build of julia
[3:30] <aberrant> and freezing = everything. pings stop, everything stops
[3:31] <aberrant> I wonder if it’s a compatibility issue with my sd card.
[3:31] <McBride36> that's my thought
[3:31] <McBride36> happened to me a couple days ago
[3:31] <McBride36> had bad sectors on the card
[3:31] <aberrant> Unpacking replacement wolfram-engine ...
[3:31] <aberrant> Write failed: Broken pipe
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[3:31] <aberrant> McBride36: how’d you fix it?
[3:31] <McBride36> bought a new card :/
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[3:31] <aberrant> heh
[3:32] <aberrant> this is a 32 gig samsung micro sd
[3:32] <McBride36> have you reformatted and reinstalled?
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[3:32] <aberrant> yup
[3:32] <aberrant> three times
[3:32] <aberrant> well, not formatted. Just used dd
[3:32] <McBride36> ah
[3:32] <McBride36> did you have a backup or somethin?
[3:32] <aberrant> is a format necessary?
[3:33] <aberrant> it’s brand new, so there’s nothing on it to lose
[3:33] <aberrant> I was dding raspbian
[3:33] <McBride36> i mean, it couldn't hurt?
[3:33] <McBride36> but idk
[3:33] <McBride36> i don't have the pi2...yet
[3:34] <aberrant> I have an 8 gig sd card that I know works in my rpi 1
[3:34] <McBride36> rpi2 only takes micro right?
[3:35] <Arbition> well unless you use an adapter, which would hang off and be awkward
[3:35] <PovAddict> there are adapters for that direction? :O
[3:36] <aberrant> nothing in the logs
[3:36] <aberrant> right. just micro
[3:36] <aberrant> but my sd card is a micro in an adapter, so I can use it
[3:36] <McBride36> there's adapters for everything ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[3:36] <aberrant> Feb 16 02:17:23 redshift kernel: [ 0.000000] Truncating RAM at 0x00000000-0x3e000000 to -0x2f800000
[3:36] <aberrant> that’s suspicious, but whatever.
[3:36] <McBride36> i actually had problems with mine because it was in an adapter i think
[3:37] <Arbition> PovAddict: http://www.dx.com/p/sd-to-microsd-transflash-card-converter-module-27001
[3:37] <Arbition> it is a little dodgy though
[3:37] <plugwash> PovAddict, yup you can see a few of them on https://www.google.com/search?q=microsd+sd+adapter&client=iceweasel-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:unofficial&biw=1280&bih=609&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=rVfhVJmhDYu6Uc6KguAI&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAg
[3:37] <Arbition> the micro side is too thick, though it fits ok in the B+ but other micro slots don't like it
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[3:38] <plugwash> OOI why did you buy it?
[3:39] <PovAddict> my Rpi1B came with a microSD in an adapter, so I'll be able to use the same card in a B+ or 2
[3:39] <Arbition> Because I was looking for a device that had native SD rather than a mass storage abstraction layer, at the time I could only think of my Beaglebone Black
[3:40] <Arbition> I didn't end up using it really though
[3:40] <plugwash> you were trying to interface an SDIO device?
[3:40] <Arbition> no I just wanted access to low level commands
[3:41] <Arbition> because as far as I could tell, the mass storage ones don't send actual delete commands
[3:41] <Arbition> and you know, flash and wear leveling not so good
[3:41] <Arbition> these aren't SSDs with decent controllers
[3:43] <aberrant> I wonder why free -m only shows 744 megs total
[3:43] <PovAddict> well the GPU is getting some
[3:43] <aberrant> I resized it to 16
[3:45] <plugwash> aberrant, what kernel are you using?
[3:45] <aberrant> raspbian
[3:45] <aberrant> Linux redshift 3.18.5-v7+ #225 SMP PREEMPT Fri Jan 30 18:53:55 GMT 2015 armv7l GNU/Linux
[3:46] <aberrant> I am disappointed. I can make the box freeze just by doing an apt-get upgrade or a compile.
[3:46] <aberrant> It’s gotta be the sd card.
[3:46] <PovAddict> try another card
[3:46] <aberrant> will do tomorrow.
[3:46] * aberrant sighs
[3:46] <plugwash> the memory thing is a known issue with older kernels, updating to the latest should fix that
[3:46] <McBride36> they're only 10 dollars!
[3:46] <plugwash> dunno about the crashes though
[3:46] <aberrant> how old?
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[3:47] <aberrant> doing an rpi-update
[3:47] <plugwash> iirc the change that made all the memory available was pushed to the foundation's raspberrypi-bootloader package a few days ago, it's been available through rpi-update for longer
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[3:48] <aberrant> rebooting
[3:48] <aberrant> *** If no errors appeared, your firmware was successfully updated to b2f6c103e5355bee90ff57f55cdf6d7005485a23
[3:48] <plugwash> (it was being held back from the packages because it caused problems with sonic pi, sonic pi has since been fixed)
[3:49] <aberrant> Linux redshift 3.18.7-v7+ #755 SMP PREEMPT Thu Feb 12 17:20:48 GMT 2015 armv7l GNU/Linux
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[3:49] <aberrant> there we go?
[3:49] <aberrant> gonna try that apt-get upgrade again
[3:49] <aberrant> oh, lemme check free -m
[3:49] <aberrant> I was stress-testing the sd card, no issues there
[3:50] <aberrant> Mem: 974 129 844 0 8 93
[3:50] <aberrant> there we go
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[3:50] <aberrant> Unpacking replacement wolfram-engine ...
[3:50] <aberrant> wow, so far so good
[3:51] <aberrant> plugwash: thanks.
[3:51] <aberrant> any idea how to increase the amount of swap?
[3:52] <aberrant> that might be the issue
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[3:54] <aberrant> got it.
[3:54] <aberrant> vi /etc/dphys-swapfile :)
[3:55] <aot2002> Are there any performance gains using an SSD over the regular SD card for a raspberry pi 2? Is the SSD adapter any faster on IO performance?
[3:55] <aberrant> hm
[3:55] <aberrant> didn’t come back up after boot.
[3:55] <PovAddict> aot2002: well, you always need a SD card
[3:55] <PovAddict> aot2002: but I assume you mean putting most of the data in a SSD
[3:56] <aot2002> PovAddict: yes boot kernel from SD and then off SSD but before going down that road just curious how much of a performance gain there was.
[3:56] <niston> not too much I guess
[3:57] <aot2002> niston: you guess?
[3:58] <niston> well I have no data available but the SSD will presumably connect to the Pi via USB
[3:58] <niston> so data transfer rates will be... unimpressive
[3:59] <niston> as for seek rates
[3:59] <niston> http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sdxc-sdhc-uhs-i,2940-9.html
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[4:00] <aberrant> ok, gonna try this build
[4:01] <aberrant> I’ll probably run out of memory
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[4:06] <aberrant> Unpacking gfortran (from .../gfortran_4%3a4.6.3-8_armhf.deb) ...
[4:06] <aberrant> Write failed: Host is down
[4:07] <aberrant> this machine is fuxx0red
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[4:07] <PovAddict> host is down on a local write? wtf?
[4:07] <PovAddict> or are you using NFS?
[4:07] <aberrant> local write
[4:07] <aberrant> but I was sshed in
[4:07] <aberrant> machine froze again
[4:07] <PovAddict> ahh
[4:07] <PovAddict> ssh write failed
[4:08] <aberrant> no
[4:08] <aberrant> I was doing an apt-get install
[4:08] <aberrant> of gfortran
[4:08] <aberrant> and that froze the machine which timed out my ssh session
[4:08] <PovAddict> at first I thought the Write failed message came from apt-get, but it came from ssh
[4:08] <aberrant> yeah
[4:08] <aberrant> this has been happening all day :(
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[4:10] <aberrant> are there any diagnostics I can do? syslog / dmesg has nothing
[4:10] <aberrant> the rpi light is solid red, no green
[4:11] <McBride36> the green is just activity, no disk activity is being monitored
[4:11] <PovAddict> maybe you could configure the green LED to monitor CPU activity instead of SD activity
[4:11] <PovAddict> then make it freeze again
[4:12] <PovAddict> I don't remember *how* to change that though
[4:12] <PovAddict> but it's somewhere in /sys/something/leds/
[4:13] <PovAddict> also, try connecting a monitor
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[4:13] <PovAddict> kernel panic information (if there is one happening) probably goes to the tty
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[4:14] <aberrant> it’s not a panic
[4:14] <Tachsomniac> wouldn't help, lol, I have some quacky ones from boots that do nothing
[4:14] <Tachsomniac> almost homeopathy
[4:14] <aberrant> I’m going to return the sd card and get another.
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[4:16] <seitensei> Are there any significant differences between raspbian and rpf's raspbian builds?
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[4:18] <aberrant> maybe it’s the speed of the ssd? This is an ultra-fast one
[4:18] <aberrant> sd, s/ssd/sdcard
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[4:19] <aberrant> this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00M55BS8G/
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[4:21] <seitensei> aberrant: There were some issues related to the speed of the SDs a while back, but it should've been fixed as of December 2014
[4:21] <aberrant> seitensei: do you have a reference?
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[4:24] <seitensei> aberrant: https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/commit/c23c0022740bb4531e841bd1321d2a652c8b3b0d
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[4:25] <PovAddict> where's the source code of that?
[4:26] <seitensei> PovAddict: You can check the changes that for that particular commit on that link
[4:26] <aberrant> seitensei: thanks
[4:26] <aberrant> seitensei: it doesn’t sound like the problem I’m having though
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[4:26] <PovAddict> that repo only has compiled binaries
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[4:27] <PovAddict> let's take "firmware: arm_loader: Avoid gpioman spam when POWER_LOW is not defined", where is the source code diff for that change?
[4:28] <seitensei> PovAddict: I don't think firmware source is provided to begin with, actually
[4:28] <plugwash> Afaict tha'ts a change to the firmware which runs on the videocore, so no source is available
[4:29] <aberrant> so, amazon’s refunding me $25
[4:29] <seitensei> aberrant: It does sound like your issue, though- you were failing on wolfram-engine, right?
[4:29] <aberrant> seitensei: and julia builds
[4:29] <aberrant> but I wasn’t seeing those errors
[4:29] <plugwash> For the kernel changes theres a file "extra/git_hash" which tells you the corresponding version of the raspberrypi/linux repository
[4:30] <aberrant> seitensei: http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=5057&start=275#p626694
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[4:30] <aberrant> is that the summary?
[4:30] <seitensei> aberrant: That's the thread linked to the commit- where the engineers specifically were involved
[4:31] <seitensei> If you do your research though, the same card/issue that they addressed does the same thing- failed on wolfram engine during update
[4:31] <aberrant> right. I did the rpi-update, and I have a different card, and am not getting the bus error message
[4:31] <aberrant> where do you see that? (I haven’t gone through all 12 pages yet)
[4:32] <seitensei> It's not in that thread, but the reason why the update process broke was fixed: http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=85210
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[4:33] <seitensei> I had looked into this when I upgrade to the B+, since I use the Samsung UHS-1 cards on my other stuff- so that's what I had around
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[4:34] <aberrant> hm
[4:34] <PovAddict> seitensei: I'm surprised github hasn't taken it down yet then
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[4:36] <kisak> I was wondering ... will noobs net install of arch work on the RPi2?
[4:36] <aberrant> seitensei: trying the sdformatter
[4:36] <seitensei> PovAddict: Why's that?
[4:36] <McBride36> kisak, worked on the B+ for me yesterday
[4:37] <kisak> McBride36: right, the B+ is not arm6hf, while the RPi2 is arm7
[4:38] <McBride36> things probably won't work as expected
[4:38] <seitensei> kisak: Assuming that noobs checks which model of Pi you have, it shouldn't be an issue
[4:39] <seitensei> If you see options for RISC or Pidora in the list, then it might not be linking to the Pi2 release
[4:40] <kisak> seitensei: prices are not sane yet where I live, so I'm just trying to do proper research ahead of time
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[4:42] <seitensei> PovAddict: Unless RPF is violating licenses, I don't see why GitHub would take them down
[4:43] <seitensei> The linux kernel sources are in raspberry/linux, while binaries and proprietary firmwares are in raspberry/firmware
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[4:56] <aberrant> ok
[4:56] <aberrant> ordered a different card
[4:56] <aberrant> Samsung MB-MG32DA
[4:56] <McBride36> good luck!
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[5:10] <Talen> Is booting from USB flash drive more trouble than it is worth?
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[5:11] <McBride36> i don't think you can boot from usb
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[5:11] <McBride36> not completely
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[5:14] <seitensei> You can 'boot' from USB
[5:15] <seitensei> Just your OS, though- you will need to run the firmware on the SD card
[5:15] <seitensei> Talen: If you're looking for an easy way, berryboot should support booting from USB
[5:16] <seitensei> berryboot itself will live on the SD card
[5:16] <Talen> Thx
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[5:44] <djbpython> im new to electronics but can i power a device that requires 5v and 1.5 amps off of the same power supply the raspberry pi uses?
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[5:45] <chipmadness> djbpython are you using GPIO?
[5:46] <djbpython> chipmadness, i could i guess
[5:46] <chipmadness> do that, what are you trying to power?
[5:46] <djbpython> basically i want to power this thing: http://www.adafruit.com/products/597
[5:47] <djbpython> but id rather not have to have 2 power adapters
[5:47] <seitensei> djbpython: Are you considering building the Pi into that?
[5:47] <niston> this requires 9v
[5:47] <niston> not 5v
[5:47] <chipmadness> djbpython buy a power supply
[5:47] <chipmadness> yeah requires 9v
[5:47] <niston> eh.
[5:47] <niston> no.
[5:47] <niston> 5 to 9v
[5:48] <djbpython> niston, it says 5 to 9
[5:48] <niston> sorry didnt read throughoutly
[5:48] <djbpython> yea
[5:48] <chipmadness> djbpython your rpi power supply supports 2.5 amps
[5:48] <seitensei> djbpython: Ada has a doc on how to build it into a pi, so
[5:48] <chipmadness> i believe
[5:48] <niston> meanwell 25W power supply
[5:48] <niston> 5VDC 5 amps
[5:48] <niston> should power both pi and printer nicely
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[5:49] <ShorTie> 9 to 5 with Dolley Partten the buck converter
[5:49] <djbpython> so i use the micro usb power supply to the pi and then use the gpio to power the printer?
[5:49] <niston> seems like a cool little printer.
[5:49] <niston> imma get myself one
[5:49] <niston> I think
[5:49] <niston> djbpython don't do that
[5:49] <seitensei> https://learn.adafruit.com/pi-thermal-printer/soldering
[5:50] <seitensei> No, you create a power supply that supplies both the printer and the pi
[5:50] <niston> yes
[5:50] <niston> do what seitensei advises
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[5:51] <seitensei> RPi GPIO can't run the current you need for the printer
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[5:53] <chipmadness> yeah djbpython dont use GPIO for that printer, i would just recommend getting a powersupply that supports power for both
[5:54] <ShorTie> Rosewill rhb-500 usb hub could power both pi and printer http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182208
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[5:55] <ShorTie> 'gpio to power the printer' don't think you can pull 1.5amps thru the gpio
[5:55] <djbpython> ok i think i see, so id get the new power supply with the female power jack, and from there id split it in to the pi and the printer
[5:59] <chipmadness> can someone 3d print me a raspberry pi case lol
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[6:00] <seitensei> chipmadness: sure, for 50cents/gram of material and shipping costs lol
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[6:01] <chipmadness> setensei how much you think? $10?
[6:01] <seitensei> Depends
[6:01] <chipmadness> i just need a case that can block the pi, but show my 16x2 display
[6:02] <seitensei> Do you have the STL?
[6:02] <niston> make one out of cardboard :P
[6:02] <chipmadness> niston: i thought about that lol
[6:02] <chipmadness> STL?
[6:02] <seitensei> chipmadness: the cad file
[6:02] <chipmadness> oh hell no
[6:02] <chipmadness> lol
[6:03] <chipmadness> idk anything about 3d modeling and cad
[6:03] <chipmadness> hated that stuff in high school
[6:03] <niston> djbpython: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1pc-Switching-Power-Supply-RS-25-5-5V-5A-25W-AC100-240Vin-78x51x28mm-Mean-Well-/141101085649?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20da47b3d1
[6:03] <chipmadness> drawing shapes doesnt amuse me
[6:03] <niston> highly recommended
[6:04] <chipmadness> well yeah niston, thats nice
[6:04] <chipmadness> cheap also
[6:04] <niston> and small :D
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[6:06] <chipmadness> oh does anyone know the distance for sonar?
[6:06] <niston> huh?
[6:06] <niston> some high powered military sonar systems cover hundreds of miles
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[6:07] <niston> they work at sound levels above 230dB
[6:07] <niston> standing infront of them will kill you
[6:07] <djbpython> niston, interesting, not sure id know what to do with that
[6:08] <niston> djbpython: its a power supply
[6:08] <niston> feed it 120/230VAC and you get 5VDC out
[6:08] <niston> 5 amps will be enough to power both a raspberry pi and that printer you linked, at the same time
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[6:10] <djbpython> so i cant just use a 5v 2 amp power supply and split it?
[6:10] <niston> nope
[6:10] <niston> 2 amps is insufficient
[6:11] <niston> the printer alone requires 1.5 amps
[6:13] <chipmadness> wtf did you guys know windows 10 for the pi 2 doesnt have a gui?!?!
[6:13] <niston> yup
[6:13] <chipmadness> wtf is the point lol
[6:13] <niston> its much like windows server core in that respect
[6:13] <niston> Idk
[6:14] <chipmadness> niston: i will stick to linux
[6:14] <niston> if I want to develop with Visual Studio for the Berry Pi I will just use mono
[6:14] <chipmadness> niston: if i wana develop in visual studio, i will go on my desktop
[6:14] <niston> yup
[6:14] <niston> thats what I do
[6:14] <chipmadness> lmfao gosh microsoft
[6:14] <niston> develop with VS on windows
[6:15] <niston> upload .exe to raspberry pi
[6:15] <niston> and run with mono
[6:15] <chipmadness> lmfaooooo
[6:15] <chipmadness> they should make the windows 10 for pi 2 open soure
[6:15] <chipmadness> source*
[6:15] <chipmadness> someone could add a gui
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[6:16] <niston> chipmadness: https://niston.wordpress.com/2014/10/10/niston-stream-one/
[6:17] <shiftplusone> chipmadness, you're just speculating. windows 10 for IoT CURRENTLY doesnt have a GUI because it was developed for a platform which doesn't even have video output. All the currently available information can be found here https://www.windowsondevices.com/
[6:18] <chipmadness> niston lol nice power supply
[6:18] <niston> he he
[6:18] <niston> 15W meanwell :P
[6:18] <chipmadness> what internet radio does it connect to?
[6:18] <niston> shoutcast/icecast
[6:18] <chipmadness> is it possible to grab pandora?
[6:18] <niston> it can also play OGG streams
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[6:19] <chipmadness> shiftplusone: i will just wait for intels new development board and run the real Windows 10 lmfao
[6:19] <chipmadness> niston: dude nice device
[6:19] <chipmadness> I like it
[6:19] <niston> thx :)
[6:19] <niston> I'll soon build two monoblock amps for it
[6:19] <niston> and add a cd drive
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[6:20] <abnormal> have you sold any yet?
[6:20] <niston> nope
[6:20] <niston> still looking for someone to make the cases
[6:20] <abnormal> what the hell?
[6:20] <abnormal> oh
[6:21] <chipmadness> niston: how much?
[6:21] <abnormal> well don't wait too long
[6:21] <abnormal> fifty cents
[6:21] <chipmadness> abnormal its not fifty cents lol
[6:21] <niston> dunno. maybe I should just manufacture them manually
[6:21] <chipmadness> niston: http://www.amazon.com/MTX-Terminator-TNE212D-200-Watt-Enclosure/dp/B001JECAM2
[6:22] <chipmadness> there is your sound system (bass wise)
[6:22] <niston> lol
[6:22] <chipmadness> yall gona make me lose my mind, up in here, up in here
[6:23] <abnormal> gud
[6:23] <abnormal> be glad to
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[6:24] <niston> chipmadness: I have these http://pics.ricardostatic.ch/2_742030568_Big/lautsprecher/mb-quart-350-s.jpg
[6:24] <chipmadness> how much power does it need?
[6:25] <chipmadness> the speakers
[6:25] <abnormal> about two watts
[6:25] <chipmadness> abnormal: please....
[6:25] <niston> currently have a NAD 912 power amp connected
[6:25] <niston> but I'm not satisfied
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[6:26] <chipmadness> Nice man, i love good speakers. i just bought a 250w 8in subwoofer for my desktop
[6:26] <chipmadness> its more than enough bass for a computer lmfao
[6:26] <niston> the NAD 912 has 30W
[6:27] <niston> into 8 Ohms
[6:27] <niston> a bit too low for those quart speakers
[6:27] <chipmadness> niston thats pretty sweet man, im currently working on a cool project myself. I am making a fully autonamous quadcopter at my university
[6:28] <niston> so the monoblocks Im planning to build will have at least 50W into 8 Ohms
[6:28] <niston> probably a BTL bridged class D configuration
[6:28] <niston> I know, class D, yeah yeah. It's got to be small :P
[6:28] <chipmadness> shit.... my battery is dead on my laptop, ill see you guys tomorrow. Its also late here.... :p seeya pi lovers
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[6:29] <niston> l8s chipmadness and good luck with your copter :)
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[6:40] <niston> abnormal: your guess wasn't too bad
[6:40] <niston> those speakers require 2.2 watts to produce 90dB/1m
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[7:07] <ShorTie> i use to a set of radio shack mach 1 speakers till a 'friend' blow them, 15" woofer, that was some bass
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[7:14] <niston> who needs enemies with this kind of friends? :>
[7:15] <ShorTie> i hear that, or hurd
[7:18] <niston> had those way back http://i.imgur.com/F2ALD.jpg
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[7:19] <niston> Jamo, don't remember the model
[7:19] <ShorTie> Nice
[7:20] <niston> 350W RMS
[7:20] <niston> IIRC
[7:20] <niston> we used them for parties
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[7:37] <DropBear> 1/8w 330 ohm resistor should be ok for just a small generic led on the gpio right? brain is fry'd atm
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[7:39] <niston> sounds about right
[7:40] <seitensei> I tend to use 560's
[7:40] <seitensei> but I have a lot of those
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[8:19] <Bebbzor> hi I have an appletv at home and I have heard that you can run plexconnect, openplex, plex channels, unsupported appstore and a bunch of other cool stuff on it but I might consider to buy an raspberry pi 2 and make it a xbmc/kodi mediabox, which option is best/has most content/is most useful?
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[8:51] <TyrfingMjolnir> Where can I find sensors? I would like to have a lens detector.
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[8:51] <TyrfingMjolnir> And also radio frequency strength meter of some kind
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[9:11] <SpeedEvil> A lens detector?
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[9:18] <TyrfingMjolnir> directional lens detector
[9:18] <TyrfingMjolnir> Should be able to respond with location of lense in 3D space as x, y, z
[9:20] <TyrfingMjolnir> Also of interest fully grounded 230V on/off switch
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[9:22] <SpeedEvil> Err - what?
[9:22] <SpeedEvil> You're not making much sense.
[9:22] <SpeedEvil> What do you mean by 'lense'
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[9:25] <TyrfingMjolnir> lens
[9:25] <TyrfingMjolnir> like in camera lens/objective
[9:25] <SpeedEvil> What are you actually trying to do.
[9:25] <SpeedEvil> DEtect where cameras are?
[9:25] <SpeedEvil> Why?
[9:26] <TyrfingMjolnir> Where can I get an overview of the GPIO equipment already available?
[9:26] <SpeedEvil> Pretty much anything.
[9:26] <SpeedEvil> As long as there are software drivers, and there is some way to connect it.
[9:26] <SpeedEvil> Otherwise look at ebay for 'raspberry pi' for some ideas.
[9:28] <TyrfingMjolnir> Is there some page that reviews these GPIO equipment?
[9:28] <SpeedEvil> GPIO is just an interface.
[9:28] <SpeedEvil> you can attach anything you like to it.
[9:28] <SpeedEvil> In general, google 'raspberry pi' thing - to get an idea of what's been tried.
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[9:29] <TyrfingMjolnir> I see there is a way to extend the GPIO port here: http://hertaville.com/2013/04/01/interfacing-an-i2c-gpio-expander-mcp23017-to-the-raspberry-pi-using-c/
[9:29] <TyrfingMjolnir> And how will I interface this programmatically
[9:29] <TyrfingMjolnir> ?
[9:29] <TyrfingMjolnir> NodeJS?
[9:30] <SpeedEvil> Programming.
[9:30] <SpeedEvil> You understand how to use the I2C bus, you talk to it over I2C, and it does the apropriate things on its pins.
[9:30] <SpeedEvil> Or you find someone that's abstracted out the task onto a library
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[9:31] <SpeedEvil> What do you mean by 'extend the GPIO port'
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[9:32] <SpeedEvil> Do tyou mean beyond this?
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[9:51] <TyrfingMjolnir> I mean if I would like to control all 50 lightbulbs in the house
[9:51] <TyrfingMjolnir> There will not be enough pins on the Raspberry Pi board
[9:51] <TyrfingMjolnir> to connect them all
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[9:52] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-Eight-Channel-Relay-Board-for-Automation-12-V-/170433621706?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27aea2aeca
[9:52] <SpeedEvil> this sort of thing
[9:52] <SpeedEvil> you can connect GPIO extenders over SPI or I2C easily
[9:52] <SpeedEvil> Or even usB
[9:53] <TyrfingMjolnir> http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/17159/how-to-add-isolation-between-raspberry-pi-and-relay-board
[9:53] <SpeedEvil> There are many optoisolated relay boards.
[9:53] <SpeedEvil> However - relays provide their own isolation
[9:53] <SpeedEvil> at least if they're decent quality
[9:54] <TyrfingMjolnir> Like this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-16-Channel-Relay-Module-Board-for-Home-Automation-/170623383382?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27b9f23756 ?
[9:54] <SpeedEvil> yes
[9:54] <TyrfingMjolnir> Do these break connection on all 3 cords? or just 1 of them?
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[9:57] <cehteh> are there onewire controlled relays available?
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[10:00] <cehteh> either way for home automation i would consider an arduino or such to control the relays, then one can implement timers, bistable action, watchdogs on the arduino which can operate even when the main controlling comuter (rpi) reboots, and one can add some bus system or wifi connectivity
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[10:04] <TyrfingMjolnir> Why would anyone use wifi for an installation? wifi is for drafting only, no?
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[10:05] <Gadgetoid_> Only need 9 more backers, NINE!
[10:06] <seitensei> For?
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[10:06] <Gadgetoid_> Flotilla: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pimoroni/flotilla-for-raspberry-pi-making-for-everyone
[10:06] <Gadgetoid_> Also 15 minutes... eep!
[10:06] <seitensei> :x
[10:07] <Gadgetoid_> My F5, is just cannae take it!
[10:07] <cehteh> TyrfingMjolnir: we living in an old house, its hard to lay additional cables
[10:08] <Gadgetoid_> Woah woah, only 5 to go!
[10:08] <Gadgetoid_> The last minutes really do entice out all the Ebay ninjas
[10:08] <cehteh> with wifi i mant this small serial rf modules, forgot the name
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[10:09] <Froolap> Hi
[10:09] <Vialas> hi
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[10:12] <Gadgetoid_> 4 backers to go!
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[10:29] <AlexYoung29> Hi, What would be a good bit of software for using a USB webcam and access via a website? I've tried RPI Cam Web Interface but not able to use USB webcam's with that.
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[10:30] <ShorTie> v4l2
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[12:07] <Essobi> If anyone wants it.. Raspberry Pi2 Kali 1.1.0 Hardfloat image... 1.1.0 https://t.co/wzQ0HamDbf root/toor ssh enabled.
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[12:26] <Akagi201_> Essobi: sounds good
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[12:55] <ShorTie> blaaaa, outside temp 6.2F
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[13:23] <Akagi201_> Is raspberry pi2's compile toolchain different than pi1?
[13:24] <Akagi201_> Is raspberry pi2's compile toolchain different from pi1?
[13:24] <Akagi201_> Basicly, I mean the cross compile toolchain
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[13:30] <DropBear> The toolchain is the same, thought I read on the site that wasn't going to change for a bit
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[13:39] <Akagi201_> DropBear: pi2 is armv7, pi1 is armv6
[13:40] <DropBear> yep
[13:43] <taza> Pi2 is compatible with Pi1 software; however, the Pi2 can do so much more... eventually.
[13:44] <mortal> what is the status of pi2 optimisations
[13:44] <ShorTie> so i guess your saying that the toolchain will 'work' but not optimized for the rpi2 ??
[13:44] <Akagi201_> taza: pi1's software can run on pi1 directly?
[13:45] <Akagi201_> taza: pi1's software can run on pi2 directly?
[13:45] <DropBear> the toolchain is multi target, always has been
[13:45] <taza> Akagi201_: Sure can.
[13:45] <Akagi201_> taza: Thanks
[13:46] <Akagi201_> I think it's CPU instruction set back compitable
[13:46] <Akagi201_> ARMV6's code on run on ARMV7
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[13:48] <taza> Thanks to a bunch of software not supporting ARMv6 at all, the Pi2 has so much more potential... now it just gotta get to the point of being actually supported.
[13:50] <Mikk36> hey
[13:50] <Mikk36> trying to use the same microSD that i used on my RPi B on the new RPi2
[13:50] <Mikk36> but am getting only the coloured splash screen
[13:50] <Mikk36> any hints what i could do?
[13:51] <Mikk36> there is enough power, checked with a fresh raspbian
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[13:59] <ShorTie> ya, either do a full upgrade or reflash it
[14:00] <ShorTie> old rpiB's sdcards don't know of a rpi2
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[14:01] <Mikk36> yeah, i guess i might have forgot to do an upgrade very recently
[14:02] <ShorTie> had to be done like this month to work
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[14:16] <Davespice> stand by for incoming blog update...
[14:16] <Davespice> boom: http://www.raspberrypi.org/astro-pi-mission-update-1/
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[15:05] <tacoexe> is it safe to power the pi with a computer?
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[15:12] <Encrypt> tacoexe, If your compuer can provide enough energy, it should be
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[15:13] <IT_Sean> Good morning, minions.
[15:14] <anunnaki> is there a commmand line option for the user in Raspbmc like ctrl alt F ttys, as there is in recovery mode,, but user cant log into it
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[15:27] <thescatman_> hi guys, what do I do if my raspbian's corrupted? :/
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[15:28] <thescatman_> I can use the command line, but it won't usually boot into the gui, and it says the dirty bit is set - the Fs was not properly unmounted, for some reason
[15:28] <thescatman_> I haven't unplugged it once without shutting down first :/
[15:29] <Encrypt> thescatman_, fsck ;)
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[15:30] <thescatman_> Encrypt: what do you mean?
[15:31] <thescatman_> http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2285992 ah i think i found a fix
[15:31] <Wec> thescatman_ You seem to be doing well again
[15:31] <thescatman_> Wec: lmao
[15:31] <thescatman_> bloody sd decided to corrupt itself
[15:31] <Encrypt> thescatman_, Do:
[15:31] <Wec> Did you OC?
[15:31] <Encrypt> sudo touch /forcefsck
[15:31] <Encrypt> sudo reboot
[15:32] <thescatman_> okay
[15:32] <Encrypt> It should check the filesystem and repair it if needed
[15:32] <thescatman_> Wec: ah... yeah
[15:33] <thescatman_> sudo touch /forcefsck
[15:33] <thescatman_> doesn't seem to have done anything
[15:34] <thescatman_> ah it's doing something on reboot. duh
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[15:35] <Encrypt> thescatman_, "$ sudo touch /forcefsck" creates a file "forcefsck" at the root
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[15:35] <Encrypt> Once it reboots, the system detects this file and runs fsck before booting
[15:35] <thescatman_> awesome, I'm back into the os.
[15:35] <thescatman_> that makes sense
[15:36] <Encrypt> Then, once the fsck is done, "forcefsck" is deleted
[15:36] <Encrypt> ;)
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[15:36] <thescatman_> Aaand it's crashed
[15:36] <thescatman_> lol
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[15:41] <thescatman_> Encrypt: fsck: warning... wsck.vfat for device /dev/mmcblk0p1 exited with signal 6.
[15:41] <thescatman_> fsck died with status code 8
[15:41] <thescatman_> blablabla, pls repair fiule system manually :/
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[15:44] <Encrypt> Arf :/
[15:44] <Encrypt> That doesn't seem good
[15:45] <abnormal> whut don't seem good?
[15:45] <thescatman_> i'll take a pic of it
[15:45] <abnormal> ok
[15:46] <Wec> abnormal fsck is failing on his SD card
[15:46] <abnormal> o ooo... sorry
[15:46] <abnormal> re do it again
[15:47] <abnormal> or start a new SD card
[15:47] <thescatman_> i'll re-do it...
[15:47] <abnormal> ok good plan
[15:47] <thescatman_> i dont want to lose what's on my os :/
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[15:48] <abnormal> I don't blame you...
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[15:51] <thescatman_> aw god
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[15:52] <abnormal> now whut?
[15:53] <thescatman_> not sure how to upload a pic of what it said before i did the fsck thing the second time
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[15:53] <thescatman_> but this is what it looks like after:
[15:53] <abnormal> ok
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[15:54] <MrKillius24> hey
[15:54] <thescatman_> http://imgur.com/nlZhkm2
[15:54] <thescatman_> abnormal
[15:54] <MrKillius24> How is everyone doing ?
[15:55] <thescatman_> terrible thanks :)
[15:55] <MrKillius24> Ok
[15:55] <Wec> That corruption on the bottom looks great
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[15:55] <thescatman_> it's beautiful
[15:56] <Wec> thescatman_ quick take a better pic of it and post to /r/glitch_art
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[15:56] <Wec> sweet karma
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[15:56] <thescatman_> doubtful
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[15:57] <abnormal> ewww... well shut it all down and turn off then unplug everything then plug back together including SD card and reboot.
[15:57] <thescatman_> s' what i did.
[15:58] <abnormal> try different monitor?
[15:58] <thescatman_> imgur.com/rddqjHL
[15:58] <MrKillius24> Well this is more of a programming question in general towards the pi. But I am wondering I need a simple server that would be able to get input.What would you guys recommend for performance in terms of apps to do this or any progrmaming language to do it in ?
[15:58] <thescatman_> www.imgur.com/rddqjHL
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[15:59] <abnormal> ok, that tells me it's time to re burn the SD card. sorry
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[16:01] <thescatman_> :[
[16:01] <thescatman_> there must be some way i can repair the file system manually
[16:02] <abnormal> ok then wait for ShorTie , shiftplusone , niston , or IT_Sean can help you.
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[16:03] <thescatman_> cool cool, thanks anyway
[16:04] <abnormal> they are more experienced than I am.. so be patient.
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[16:04] <thescatman_> lolwut I tried logging in anyway and it worked
[16:05] <thescatman_> aaand it's crashed
[16:05] <thescatman_> yeah i'll wait
[16:06] <abnormal> you have powered USB hub?
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[16:06] <IT_Sean> Hmm? Someone say my name?
[16:07] <IT_Sean> abnormal?
[16:07] <abnormal> yeh, good morning, thescatman_ needs your help pls.
[16:07] <IT_Sean> thescatman_: wassabi?
[16:07] <thescatman_> IT_Sean: I'm getting problems after I've done sudo touch /forcefsck
[16:07] <IT_Sean> is it failing fsck?
[16:08] <thescatman_> http://imgur.com/nlZhkm2 happens
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[16:08] <thescatman_> yeah i think so
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[16:09] <IT_Sean> Time for a new SD image, i'd say.
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[16:09] <thescatman_> aww
[16:09] <thescatman_> Alright.
[16:09] <IT_Sean> Do you have backups?
[16:10] <thescatman_> nah, I was just going ask that
[16:10] <IT_Sean> Next time keep backups.
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[16:10] <IT_Sean> Use another machine to make an .iso of the SD card. Then you can use that to image another SD card if your primary one goes all pear-shaped again.
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[16:10] <thescatman_> is there a way to backup the uSD to another one using the Pi so you can swap it straight away?
[16:10] <IT_Sean> Use another machine to make an .iso of the SD card. Then you can use that to image another SD card if your primary one goes all pear-shaped again.
[16:11] <thescatman_> alright.
[16:11] <thescatman_> Cheers
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[16:15] <abnormal> thescatman_, look at this and see if there is a fix, if not, then you will have to do what IT sean suggested. ===> http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl8_fsck_.htm
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[16:25] <ShorTie> thescatman_ use dd to make image of sdcard, then run that image thru image_shrinker.sh maybe, see if it fixes it
[16:27] <ShorTie> or maybe try rpi-clone
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[16:30] <abnormal> ty, ShorTie
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[16:50] <abnormal> ok I back, lol, pi got unplugged... dang
[16:51] <teclo-> hi, know where I can buy some raspberry pi stickers to put on SD cards ?
[16:51] <IT_Sean> Did you check the foundation's Pi store?
[16:51] <abnormal> lol, never seen them... maybe adafruit.com?
[16:51] <IT_Sean> They used to sell them. Dunno if they still do or not.
[16:51] <IT_Sean> You can also try Google. Google is good at finding stuff.
[16:52] <abnormal> yay, Mr. Google.. lol
[16:52] <abnormal> or is it Mrs.?
[16:52] <PovAddict> I bought my raspi from Canakit, it came with a SD card preloaded with noobs and printed with the logo
[16:52] <IT_Sean> It's neither. Google is asexual.
[16:53] <abnormal> lol... a dud, eh?
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[17:19] <ziggee> Hello all, just testing
[17:20] <IT_Sean> testing... what?
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[17:20] <ziggee> IRC, I am new to it
[17:21] <abnormal> seeing if we alive, eh?
[17:21] <ziggee> Yes :)
[17:21] <abnormal> well, guess you found out, eh?
[17:22] <ziggee> Guess so - or it could be automated Pi's answering me back!
[17:23] <abnormal> no, just human automation... lolrof
[17:24] <ShorTie> Welcome to the family, pull up a chair and have a squat for awhile
[17:25] <ziggee> Will do, and thanks :)
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[17:27] <abnormal> and have fun learning with us...
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[17:30] <ShorTie> learning, is that what you call it, i thought it was depopulation of hair
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[17:32] <abnormal> well on my head it is...
[17:33] <IT_Sean> What is this "hair" of which you speak?
[17:34] <abnormal> on my head.. slowly dissipating
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[17:53] <Lobosque> how do I automatically startx and login on boot and run a browser? I'm trying "1:2345:respawn:/usr/bin/startx -e /home/pi/kiosk-browser/browser http://127.0.0.1:8080 tty1 </dev/tty1 >/dev/tty1 2>&1" in my inittab but it is not working. here is the whole file: https://gist.github.com/Lobosque/5143af4f3832c049ac57
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[17:54] <ppq> use a display manager, like lightdm, and configure it to do auto login
[17:55] <Sonny_Jim> Can't you just use raspi-config to do that?
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[17:55] <Sonny_Jim> Yeah much easier
[17:55] <Sonny_Jim> Lobosque: sudo raspi-config, option 3
[17:56] <Lobosque> I can't configure raspi-config to run my browser for me, can I?
[17:56] <Sonny_Jim> Well, it does the first bit
[17:56] <Sonny_Jim> Pretty sure you can set the window manager to autostart applications
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[17:57] <Sonny_Jim> http://www.raspberry-projects.com/pi/pi-operating-systems/raspbian/gui/auto-run-browser-on-startup
[17:58] <Lobosque> thanks
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[18:00] <Sonny_Jim> Generally, inittab is for starting system stuff, everything else should go into init scripts
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[18:05] <heller\> hello
[18:05] <Sonny_Jim> Hi
[18:05] <heller\> can someone suggest me an easy small lcd/display to show temperature and humidity?
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[18:36] <heller\> hmm
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[18:44] <WACOMalt> Man, I cannot get openarena to work anywhere near as good as the videos I see on youtube
[18:44] <WACOMalt> I get maybe 1 frame every 3 seconds
[18:44] <Syliss> ouch
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[18:46] <McBride36> better make some popcorn then, you'll be waiting awhile
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[18:48] <WACOMalt> They say to launch it without doing startx
[18:48] <WACOMalt> but if I do it from console then it just says it couldnt find the x display
[18:48] <WACOMalt> because... its not been started
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[18:49] <McBride36> what are you trying to do?
[18:49] <McBride36> ah, it's a game
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[18:50] <WACOMalt> yeah, opensource quake3
[18:50] <WACOMalt> is there a way to set the color depth on raspbian?
[18:51] <McBride36> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=29412&p=258474
[18:51] <McBride36> try that?
[18:52] <WACOMalt> cool thanks
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[18:54] <thescatman_> What OS would you guys use to run as an emulator box on the pi 2?
[18:54] <WACOMalt> brb
[18:55] <Sonny_Jim> Linux ;-)
[18:55] <thescatman_> there's like 4, and none afaik explicitly support / run better on the pi 2 from what I can see
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[18:57] <WACOMalt> awesome, that worked
[18:57] <WACOMalt> thanks
[18:57] <Essobi> What
[18:57] <WACOMalt> setting my color depth onraspbian
[18:57] <Essobi> What's the best video driver currently?
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[18:57] <Essobi> For X...
[18:57] <WACOMalt> no clue sorry
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[18:58] <WACOMalt> Im just in whatever rasbian has by default and I just added a config.txt line to make it 32bit color depth
[18:58] <WACOMalt> a little slower now but prettier
[19:00] <WACOMalt> woah weird... wince changing that now the default brower is invverted hues
[19:00] <WACOMalt> epiphany that is
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[19:06] <thescatman_> What OS would you guys use to run as an emulator box on the pi 2? there's like 4, and none afaik explicitly support / run better on the pi 2 from what I can see
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[19:13] <Sonny_Jim> Pedant mode activated:
[19:13] <Sonny_Jim> Linux is the OS that all the distributions use
[19:14] <Sonny_Jim> I think RetroPie does it's own distribution which might be what you want
[19:15] <Syliss> just have to make sure they are compiled for the pi 2
[19:16] <Tachyon`> Linux is the kernel, the OS is mostly GNU
[19:17] * Tachyon` says out pedanting a pedant
[19:17] <SpeedEvil> Not android
[19:17] <McBride36> butthat's getting off topic
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[19:17] <SpeedEvil> Android has been run on pi, so not
[19:17] <McBride36> really?
[19:17] <TyrfingMjolnir> I just bought my first Raspberry Pi 2 Model B
[19:18] <TyrfingMjolnir> What to do?
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[19:18] <ShorTie> mail it to me
[19:18] <SpeedEvil> http://www.raspberrypi.org/tag/android/
[19:18] * ShorTie snickers
[19:18] <ozzzy> I prefer Aero
[19:18] <SpeedEvil> See if it will blend
[19:18] <TyrfingMjolnir> Why install android on a raspberry pi?
[19:18] <ozzzy> why not
[19:18] <abnormal> lol, ShorTie
[19:18] <TyrfingMjolnir> When there is apt why java?
[19:19] <SpeedEvil> TyrfingMjolnir: I diddn't say it was a good idea
[19:19] <McBride36> lol
[19:19] <McBride36> SpeedEvil, it's for the pi2 though, correct?
[19:19] <McBride36> not B+
[19:19] <cehteh> you can already install windows 10 .. so i doubt argueing about android makes any point :)
[19:20] <TyrfingMjolnir> Both of them are proprietary shet.
[19:20] <TyrfingMjolnir> I'm debating in my head to get a Note 4 to install Ubuntu Touch
[19:20] <cehteh> i wont install either
[19:21] <cehteh> rather thinking about a init=/bin/emacs .. EmacsOS distribution :).. maybe i can do that for the 1. April release date
[19:21] <TyrfingMjolnir> vim FTW!
[19:22] <cehteh> haha
[19:22] <McBride36> idk about you guys, but i definitely prefer nano
[19:22] <McBride36> it's just so useful
[19:22] <thescatman_> Sonny_Jim: ugh distro, os, you know what i mean
[19:22] * TyrfingMjolnir prefers cat/echo/xxd
[19:23] <TyrfingMjolnir> But vim is quite OK too
[19:23] <ozzzy> emacs
[19:23] <TyrfingMjolnir> emacs I never used...
[19:23] <TyrfingMjolnir> Guess it's like Canon and Nikon?
[19:24] <TyrfingMjolnir> Nikon has more realistic click sound apart from that those are basically the same?
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[19:24] <PigFlu> what does it mean if the PWR led is red, and the ACT led is green?
[19:24] <PigFlu> i get no hdmi output
[19:24] <TyrfingMjolnir> Would just me annoying for me to change from vim to emacs to learn new menues, and no real new features...
[19:24] <McBride36> TyrfingMjolnir, i bet someone has made a vim plugin for emacs or something
[19:24] <McBride36> sillier things have been done
[19:26] <TyrfingMjolnir> I never tried nano, pico I tried though...
[19:26] <ozzzy> nano is great for simple text entry
[19:26] <thescatman_> damn it the pi is such a fkin pain...
[19:26] <thescatman_> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=14577
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[19:27] <thescatman_> this exact thing is happening on my brand new mounted raspbian... the task bar's completely missing too
[19:29] <ozzzy> I dunno... I turned mine on and logged in.... all worked
[19:29] <thescatman_> How do you open the terminal without being able to click on it
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[19:30] <ozzzy> ctrl-alt-f2
[19:30] <abnormal> thescatman_, sounds like you are having power issues... check every power source.
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[19:30] <thescatman_> abnormal: ah, maybe...
[19:31] <thescatman_> abnormal: I'm not getting the rainbow box thing, but it does appear on boot for a second sometimes
[19:31] <thescatman_> always*
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[19:31] <abnormal> yeh, sounds like power issues... I always use powered USB hubs...
[19:34] <abnormal> I have 5 pi's and never had a glitch of problems with them because I made sure they all have powered USB hubs to power everything so pi is fed properly.
[19:34] * ozzzy has his plugged into a USB3 port
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[19:35] <thescatman_> ugh wtf
[19:36] <abnormal> now what?
[19:36] <thescatman_> can powering it on once with a dodgy psu mess up the files...?
[19:36] <thescatman_> I'm still getting that http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=14577
[19:36] <abnormal> check the power sources!!!
[19:36] <thescatman_> I did.
[19:37] <abnormal> under powered pi will malfunction easily...
[19:37] <ozzzy> sounds like a flakey sd card to me
[19:37] <thescatman_> Swapped out the plug to a 2.5A iPad one
[19:37] <abnormal> check the voltage?
[19:38] <thescatman_> that's probably it actually
[19:38] <abnormal> with a digital volt meter?
[19:38] <abnormal> over voltage will damage the pi
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[19:39] <McBride36> SD cards are the biggest pain
[19:39] <thescatman_> I don't have one
[19:39] <ozzzy> what're you booting from
[19:39] <thescatman_> http://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-SDSDQXP-008G-X46-Extreme-MicroSDHC-Memory/dp/B008HK25BC/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1424111918&sr=8-7&keywords=sandisk+extreme+pro+micro+sd is what I'm using but i'll try one of my crappy ones
[19:39] <ozzzy> oh... LOL
[19:39] <IT_Sean> thescatman_: you need an SD card!
[19:39] <ozzzy> too many things going on
[19:39] <thescatman_> yes I know it's super overkill for the pi
[19:39] <thescatman_> eh?
[19:39] <ozzzy> IT_Sean, I think he meant he doesn't have a DMM
[19:40] <IT_Sean> OOOH!
[19:40] <thescatman_> yeah the multimeter is at my parents'
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[19:43] <ozzzy> just touch the leeds to your tongue
[19:44] <McBride36> that'll wake you up
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[19:44] <thescatman_> good idea, brb
[19:45] <thescatman_> while I'm at it i think I will put my tongue on some paperclips that i'll plug into the wall socket
[19:45] <genewitch> where do i edit (in raspbian) to tell swap to shut off before dhcp gets released?
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[19:46] <abnormal> well, be careful, youngsters read this channel too, so don't wanna teach them idiot ideas..
[19:46] <genewitch> it's in rc.d somewhere
[19:46] <Sonny_Jim> touche, Tachyon`
[19:46] <Tachyon`> -.o
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[19:50] <genewitch> anyone? Need to tell init.d or rc to swapoff before dhcp release
[19:51] <WACOMalt> Anyone know how to make a program fullscreen with the window manager? like just hide the window borders and make it full screen?
[19:52] <PovAddict> depends on the wm
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[19:52] <WACOMalt> Im on whatever the default for raspbian is
[19:52] <WACOMalt> lightdm?
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[19:54] <genewitch> nevermind. I don't even have swap on. So when i sudo shutdown -r|-h now it never actually shuts down or reboots, it stops printing stuff after "releasing DHCP"
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[19:54] <WACOMalt> PovAddict, do you know how to do it with lightdm?
[19:55] <WACOMalt> or.. whatever the default window manager for raspbian is
[19:55] <genewitch> is this program a web browser
[19:55] <genewitch> or a video player
[19:55] <WACOMalt> no, librewriter
[19:55] <WACOMalt> office program
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[19:55] <genewitch> F11?
[19:55] <WACOMalt> my keyboard doesnt have F# keys
[19:55] <WACOMalt> :/
[19:56] <PovAddict> lightdm is the login manager
[19:56] <PovAddict> not the window manager
[19:56] <WACOMalt> oh
[19:56] * PovAddict isn't sure if lxde has its own wm or what
[19:56] <WACOMalt> how can I find out what window manager I'm using?
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[19:58] <thescatman_> abnormal etc: Swapping the uSD actually made a huge difference
[19:59] <thescatman_> would have thought the top performance micro sd you can buy wouldn't have an issue with the pi :L
[19:59] <abnormal> cool!
[19:59] <genewitch> WACOMalt: LXDE it looks like
[20:00] <genewitch> or openbox, if you actually mean window manager
[20:00] <WACOMalt> ok. searching now for "borderless fullscreen lxde"
[20:00] <WACOMalt> I... dont know :/
[20:00] <genewitch> me neither, but only because i don't use gui
[20:00] <WACOMalt> whatever is responsible for managing the window of libreoffice
[20:01] <WACOMalt> I dont usually either.
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[20:03] <Sonny_Jim> grep fuxaw|grep dm
[20:03] <Sonny_Jim> If the display manager has "dm" in it's name
[20:03] <Sonny_Jim> oh wait, ignore me
[20:03] <genewitch> done
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[20:04] <WACOMalt> blargh... yeah I can right click the title and choose "undecorate"
[20:04] <WACOMalt> and thats one half of the problem solved
[20:04] <WACOMalt> but it doesnt expand to the full screen even if I maximize. the navigation bar is still visible below the window
[20:05] <Sonny_Jim> You don't need to issue a swapoff command before shutdown
[20:05] <Sonny_Jim> I mean, it *is* swap after all
[20:06] <Sonny_Jim> WACOMalt: What are you trying to do?
[20:07] <WACOMalt> I am trying to launch Libreoffice writer in an undecorated, and full screen mode
[20:07] <WACOMalt> I managed to achieve this manually by choosing undecorate, then manually resizing the window over the navigation bar
[20:07] <WACOMalt> and choosing always on top
[20:07] <Sonny_Jim> How are you starting X?
[20:07] <WACOMalt> but... I need to be able to do this on launch
[20:07] <WACOMalt> "startx"
[20:07] <WACOMalt> I currently boot to console
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[20:08] <Sonny_Jim> Well, you can try starting X with no desktop environment
[20:08] <WACOMalt> how do I do that?
[20:08] <Sonny_Jim> X
[20:08] <WACOMalt> oh ok
[20:09] <WACOMalt> OK I did CTL alt backspace to kill x
[20:09] <WACOMalt> Then X
[20:09] <WACOMalt> Now I'm at a blackscreen
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[20:11] <Sonny_Jim> Right, so switch to a terminal using ALT-F1 or ssh in and start libreoffice
[20:12] <WACOMalt> "Failed to open display"
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[20:12] <Sonny_Jim> DISPLAY=:0 blah
[20:13] <Sonny_Jim> It's complaining as there is no DISPLAY env variable set
[20:13] <thescatman_> man... using a random micro sd makes the os unresponsive as shit
[20:14] <thescatman_> even a command like raspistill -o -t (just to view what's going on) crashes...
[20:14] <thescatman_> then tons of random characters
[20:15] <WACOMalt> Ah there we go
[20:16] <WACOMalt> Perfect! Thanks Sonny_Jim
[20:16] <Sonny_Jim> np
[20:16] <WACOMalt> Now I do wish I could pull this off in a desktop though
[20:17] <genewitch> yeah, there's all kinds of weird idiosincratic stuff about rasbian and iscsi and i decided i don't care. it boots (after 2 tries) and i can just sync && reboot and then pull the plug to shut it off.
[20:18] <Sonny_Jim> afaik reboot will sync disks for you
[20:19] <genewitch> Sonny_Jim: mine crashes on rc6 - K06networking
[20:19] <Sonny_Jim> Then I would fsck the disk
[20:19] <genewitch> i mv K06 to K09 and that didn't help (it still didn't reboot on its own)
[20:19] <Sonny_Jim> It sounds like there's filesystem corruption
[20:19] <genewitch> it did this from the first run
[20:20] <genewitch> and i'm not entirely sure how you fsck an iscsi / partition anyhow
[20:20] <Sonny_Jim> mount it as readonly first
[20:20] <Sonny_Jim> mount -o remount,ro /
[20:21] <Sonny_Jim> Or I'm pretty sure there's an option to force fsck on boot
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[20:21] <Sonny_Jim> In any case, there's something really badly wrong if a fresh install crashes on reboot
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[20:27] <genewitch> okay so the solution is to do this: sudo mkdir /etc/iscsi && sudo touch /etc/iscsi/iscsi.initramfs
[20:27] <genewitch> and then it will shut down and reboot properly.
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[20:27] <genewitch> Sonny_Jim: &
[20:29] <genewitch> found via line 62 of /etc/init.d/networking
[20:32] <PigFlu> after i install raspbian, can i simply connect the pi to my network and i can then ssh into it?
[20:32] <PigFlu> so i never have to actually connect a keyboard to it?
[20:32] <WACOMalt> Sonny_Jim does this look right? http://imgur.com/MBxgnA5
[20:33] <WACOMalt> That's my profile
[20:33] <WACOMalt> Its not working, no errors, just never loads libre office and I'm stuck at black screen
[20:34] <Sonny_Jim> PigFlu: Yes, if you can figure out what the IP address of the Pi is
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[20:35] <Sonny_Jim> WACOMalt: There's a reason for that
[20:35] <WACOMalt> I figured there was lol
[20:35] <Sonny_Jim> When you issue commands like that, it'll wait for the previous command to finish/exit before continuing
[20:35] <WACOMalt> Aahh
[20:35] <Sonny_Jim> So the script gets to the line "X" and waits for X to finish
[20:36] <Sonny_Jim> You'll need to background the X task using the & symbol
[20:36] <Sonny_Jim> so "X&"
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[20:36] <Sonny_Jim> You may have to introduce a small wait in the script to give X time to load
[20:36] <Sonny_Jim> before trying to start libreoffice
[20:36] <WACOMalt> Ok
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[20:39] <Jusii> if I remember correctly, I used xwininfo to see if X is up and loop that with sleep 1
[20:39] <Sonny_Jim> That's probably a better way to do it tbh
[20:39] <Jusii> so no need to guess or put too long delay
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[20:41] <genewitch> PigFlu: yes, but you have to enable sshd on boot
[20:41] <genewitch> PigFlu: and you can get the ip via your router or whatever (that's how i do it)
[20:41] <Sonny_Jim> I seem to remember that sshd is enabled by default with Rasbian
[20:41] <Sonny_Jim> Might not be though
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[20:42] <WACOMalt> Perfect Sonny_Jim thanks again man
[20:42] <genewitch> WACOMalt: read what Jusii said too, it's programatic
[20:42] <genewitch> meaning in the future if X takes longer to load you don't have to edit your sleep timer
[20:43] <WACOMalt> Ah, good call. Thanks Jusii
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[20:44] <Jusii> WACOMalt: i think I just used: xwininfo -root and when succesfull it's up
[20:45] <Jusii> returns 0 then
[20:45] <WACOMalt> Kk
[20:46] <WACOMalt> Here's another question
[20:46] <WACOMalt> When I switch to console again I see X server outputs
[20:46] <WACOMalt> Is there any way to have that not show up there?
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[20:47] <genewitch> use a different console
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[20:47] <WACOMalt> Then I have to log in again
[20:47] <kisak> this is norma;
[20:47] <genewitch> WACOMalt: yeah instead of X& you use
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[20:48] <genewitch> WACOMalt: yourcommand > /dev/null 2>&1 &
[20:48] <genewitch> so X > /dev/null 2>&1 &
[20:48] <WACOMalt> OK. Giving that a try
[20:48] <genewitch> then your checking code and sleeps
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[20:49] <genewitch> WACOMalt: or you can use nohup i guess
[20:49] <genewitch> nohup X&
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[20:50] <genewitch> X & my spacebar is acting up
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[21:01] <mattupstate> anyone know whats going on here? http://s17.postimg.org/3r3prsupq/download_20150216_144403.jpg
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[21:02] <mattupstate> getting kernel panics
[21:02] <PovAddict> huh
[21:02] <PovAddict> is it reproducible?
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[21:02] <mattupstate> its not my rasberry pi unfortunately, it was a gift i gave to my brother in law
[21:03] <mattupstate> so i can't say if its reproducable
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[21:03] <mattupstate> i'm guessing there's a problem with the SD card
[21:03] <IT_Sean> Have you tried a different SD card?
[21:03] <mattupstate> don't have one
[21:03] <IT_Sean> Get one.
[21:03] <IT_Sean> Then try it.
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[21:04] <markfletcher> Hi, I just got my raspberry pi 2 today. Ive installed the latest version of noobs and have logged in and started the x server using startx. Everything looks ok, but theres a small square artifact in the top right corner that looks like a colour palette. When I move a window over it, it obscures the window. Has anyone else experienced this?
[21:04] <IT_Sean> You should be able to get an SD card from any electronics shop, then image it.
[21:04] <PovAddict> markfletcher: that's an indicator given by the firmware
[21:04] <McBride36> oh hey mattupstate that happened to me
[21:04] <mattupstate> McBride36: yeah?
[21:04] <markfletcher> is there a way to disable it, or does it indicate an error?
[21:04] <PovAddict> IIRC there's an indicator for high temperature and another for power issues, I forget which is which
[21:04] <McBride36> most likely bad sectors on the sd card
[21:05] <McBride36> so yeah, get a new SD card
[21:05] <markfletcher> ok I’ll google some more, thought there was a quick fix for it. Thank you.
[21:05] <mattupstate> McBride36: what shall i do w/ the new SD card?
[21:05] <mattupstate> "image it" is a bit vague
[21:06] <McBride36> it's basically throwing a copy of the OS you had before onto the new card
[21:06] <McBride36> you can just put NOOBS on it and do a fresh install also if you wanted
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[21:06] <mattupstate> Ok, what tools do i need for that/
[21:06] <McBride36> sd card reader and internet
[21:06] <PovAddict> from Linux or from Windows?
[21:07] <IT_Sean> you can image an SD card in OS X, Windows, or Linux.
[21:07] <mattupstate> Windows or OS X
[21:07] <McBride36> http://www.raspberrypi.org/help/noobs-setup/ mattupstate
[21:07] <IT_Sean> It's a fairly easy process.
[21:07] <McBride36> ^
[21:07] <McBride36> if windows, win32imageformatter or something of the like
[21:07] <mattupstate> gotcha
[21:07] <PovAddict> mattupstate: http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=82373
[21:08] <PovAddict> mattupstate: oops wrong person
[21:08] <mattupstate> ha, was gonna say
[21:08] <PovAddict> mattupstate: you were with the SD card issue :P
[21:08] <PovAddict> markfletcher: http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=82373
[21:09] <markfletcher> Its a rainbow square, so likely an undervoltage. Thanks!
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[21:09] <PovAddict> how are you powering the pi?
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[21:11] <markfletcher> Using an old blackberry charger, output 5V, 1.1A
[21:12] <PovAddict> do you have anything plugged to the pi USB ports?
[21:12] <markfletcher> Mouse and Keyboard
[21:12] <IT_Sean> Have you tried a different PSU?
[21:13] <WACOMalt> Can I make it so as soon as one command finishes another runs? When the first command is being run with &
[21:13] <markfletcher> Its the only one I have at the office, can try another when I get home
[21:13] <PovAddict> WACOMalt: in bash you can do (one; two)&
[21:13] <WACOMalt> I want if libreoffice exits the system shuts down with sudo shutdown now
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[21:13] <mattupstate> thanks for the help, everyone
[21:14] <WACOMalt> OK so maybe (nohup libreoffice; sudo shutdown now)& ?
[21:15] <markfletcher> Looks like that PSU should work, docs say at least 600ma @ 5V
[21:15] <markfletcher> I’ll try another PSU when I get home tonight, but thank you for the info
[21:16] <WACOMalt> Like http://imgur.com/MYRAkTZ ?
[21:16] <PovAddict> WACOMalt: I think that's OK; try it :)
[21:16] <IT_Sean> markfletcher: cheap PSUs like. Just because it SAYS it's outputting X does not necessariy make it so.
[21:16] <IT_Sean> *lie
[21:16] <markfletcher> agreed,
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[21:18] <WACOMalt> Worked, kinda
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[21:19] <WACOMalt> Why would sudo shutdown now tell me "sulogin: root account it locked, starting shell
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[21:25] <niston> markfletcher: I had a model B running on a 1A samsung charger. nothing but a keyboard connected to it. when I hit numlock/capslock/scroll lock and the associated led lit up, the Pi would crash.
[21:26] <PovAddict> I have a model B running on a 0.7A LG charger, and with a Wi-Fi dongle, and it works perfectly
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[21:28] <VoIP_Student> anyone know where I can find the win 10 image?
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[21:29] <Stephini> woudl there be any difference between a 40 pin gpio cable and an old ide cable i no longer need?
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[21:31] <VoIP_Student> ^^ i would like to know the same
[21:31] <VoIP_Student> doesnt IDE have one pin blocked out?
[21:32] <Stephini> they look like the same dimensions and unless i misscounted they have the same pin count. (mine doesn't have a blockage that i can see) but i wonder if the way master slave works would cause some snafu
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[21:33] <PovAddict> Stephini: trying to search the webz about it
[21:34] <PovAddict> only finding instructions on how to *modify* an IDE cable for model B GPIO (which has less GPIO pins)
[21:34] <Stephini> i did a cursory search and found nothing that's why i figured i'd go strait to people with some semblance of experience. :P
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[21:34] <PovAddict> I'd try the forums
[21:35] <PovAddict> if you get an answer it'll be searchable for the rest of the world later :)
[21:35] <Stephini> hrm if there are guides on modifying for less pins that seems like it may imply the cable to be the same.
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[21:36] <plugwash> has anyone else seen a pi kernel (supposedly configured to support device tree) refuse to boot in device tree mode but boot ok in non device-tree mode
[21:36] <McBride36> VoIP_Student, yeah ide has one blocked out but you can make a tiny hole
[21:36] <McBride36> it works, i've done it
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[21:37] <McBride36> Stephini, just make a tiny hole where the ide cable has the pin blocked out
[21:37] <plugwash> just don't use 80 wire IDE cables, they short various pins together
[21:37] <McBride36> but idk about just B, i have the B+
[21:38] <Stephini> b+ is also the oldest i have. :P
[21:38] <Stephini> only for now but i want a 2b so bad. :P
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[21:38] <McBride36> if you've got a B+, a 40 pin IDE cable will work
[21:39] <Stephini> blast i think my daughter stole the bloody thing. >.<
[21:39] <PovAddict> the cable or the pi? o.O
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[21:40] <Stephini> ahh found where she hid it. yeah non of the ports are blocked out on any of the 3 headers.
[21:41] <McBride36> you're all set then, the IDE cables i had were "39" pin
[21:41] <Stephini> would i need to cut off or remove one of the headers
[21:41] <McBride36> you can if you want
[21:41] <Stephini> but it isn't necissary?
[21:41] <BurtyB> did you forget 0?
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[21:42] <McBride36> no it isn't
[21:42] <McBride36> i cut it off for aesthetic purposes
[21:42] <McBride36> wire is wire, it'll carry a signal regardless
[21:43] <VoIP_Student> :) i got the 2 last friday, running raspbuntu now like a dream
[21:43] <PovAddict> raspbuntu?
[21:43] <VoIP_Student> ill send link
[21:43] <Stephini> ah. how do HDDs tell the MOBO which header to use? i've always found that odd. unless one of the pins were dead on slave or master or there was some pair twisting type thing going on but i'm guessing neither is the case.
[21:43] <VoIP_Student> it snappy core with GUI
[21:43] <VoIP_Student> trying to find page
[21:45] <VoIP_Student> lol dont laugh at me im a n00b ---- http://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-get-ubuntu-desktop-on-the-raspberry-pi-2/
[21:45] <VoIP_Student> i guess its lianro
[21:45] <VoIP_Student> linaro**
[21:45] <VoIP_Student> with LXDE
[21:46] <VoIP_Student> either way seems to be running quite nicely on the pi2
[21:46] <PovAddict> ah good, it's actually compiled for arm7
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[21:46] <VoIP_Student> heck, i couldnt get raspbian to boot, but that did
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[21:48] <VoIP_Student> ok arm7, (sorry new here), thats instruction set used by rasppi?
[21:48] <PovAddict> by pi2
[21:48] <VoIP_Student> ok
[21:48] <VoIP_Student> ty
[21:49] <BurtyB> Stephini, in the old days we had a jumper on the back of the hdd
[21:49] <niston> ugh... "cable select"
[21:49] <Stephini> yeah i've seen that but while you can flag master and slave you can also flag cable select which somehow is supposed to distinguish between the middle header and the end header which is what i never understood.
[21:49] <IT_Sean> Stephini: You used ot have to set a Master / Slave jumper on the drive itself. Later iterations had a cable select feature
[21:50] <niston> yeah
[21:50] <niston> the cable select crap was notoriously unreliable
[21:50] <IT_Sean> ndeed
[21:50] <IT_Sean> *indeed
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[21:50] <Stephini> i never had issue with cable select.
[21:50] <IT_Sean> Stephini: it either consistantly worked, or it consistantly didn't :p
[21:51] <VoIP_Student> <=-- has only head of cable select
[21:51] <BurtyB> Stephini, with CS one of the pins goes to the master and not the slave
[21:52] <Stephini> ok i'm looking at the NES pinout and it says i need voltage and ground both of which i know i can share between the two ports. one data per port which i know i cant. and then latch and clock which i think i can?
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[21:52] <Stephini> BurtyB, so if i use an IDE cable for my pi which header i use matters?
[21:53] <IT_Sean> Indeed. It's just a cable.
[21:53] <niston> one of the headers has a few signal pins twisted over I think
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[21:53] <IT_Sean> Just be sure it hasn't got a blocked pin
[21:53] <niston> although I might confuse that with floppy cables
[21:53] <BurtyB> Stephini, if you use the "master" plug or just the cut cables you should be OK
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[21:55] <Stephini> kk thanx. once i have a breadboard that cable will make it much easier to link up to my pi and i wont need to spend 3 bucks at adafruit. :P
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[22:06] <ShorTie> Stephini, make sure it is a 40 conductor cable , NOT a 80 conductor 1
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[22:06] <ShorTie> 80 conductor ide will total screw your pi!!!
[22:07] <Stephini> ShorTie, is there a way to tell? i counted the threads and it's got 40 of em.(well it has 20 by the time you hit the midpoint)
[22:07] <ShorTie> ok, you can tell the 80 has much smaller wires
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[22:08] <Stephini> k well as far as i can tell this one is like every IDE or FDD cable i've ever seen on wire thickness. :P
[22:09] <Stephini> hey did any of you guys start with some sort of kit to get your resistor/capacitor/switch/sensor/diode collection started? if so what are good kits? or is it best just to buy al a carte?
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[22:10] <ShorTie> kits are ok, but you tend to get to much stuff you'll never use and not enough of what you need, imho
[22:11] <Sonny_Jim> ^ That
[22:12] <Stephini> ah. so al a carte then. now just gotta figure out what parts i'll end up wanting for my first few builds. :P
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[22:13] <ShorTie> with a little work, making a list, you can hit a place like Newark and get a life time supply of what you need
[22:13] <Stephini> ok for the nes controller ports i'm guessing since they call for 5v i need some sort of resistor between them and the clock/latch/ground/data...
[22:14] <niston> Stephini: here you'll find resistor sets and the like for a good price: http://www.ledsee.com/
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[22:14] <plugwash> guessing is not generally a good idea, understanding what you are doing is
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[22:17] <Stephini> plugwash. guessing is completely fine. acting on a guess is stupid. start with a guess. research, maybe discuss the idea with people and then when it's no longer a guess then you can act. no?
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[22:21] <plugwash> I expect with a basic NES controller you will be ok powering the controller off 3.3V and connecting it's IO up directly. 4000 series CMOS worked over a very wide range of voltages
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[22:22] <PovAddict> Stephini: I have an old Spanish electronics kit
[22:22] <plugwash> controllers with special features may need to be run off 5V but if you run the controller off 5V then you open up a large can of worms interfacing wise. Signals from the controller to the pi will need to be reduced in voltage (a resistive divider is probablly sufficient here) and signals from the pi to the controller may need to be buffered up to 5V
[22:23] <PovAddict> Stephini: came with magazines like this http://mla-s1-p.mlstatic.com/8-revistas-de-electronica-modular-4946-MLA3984833900_032013-F.jpg and a bunch of components on each
[22:25] <Stephini> plugwash when you say interface it's GPIO directly are you saying to wire the controller up to the pi instead of the ports? (ports would be much preferable so i could unhook the controllers from the build)
[22:25] <teclo-> hi I'm getting "macblk... I/O error.... "
[22:26] <plugwash> no connectors don't matter, what I mean is if you connect the controllers power pin to 3.3V you can safely connect the data lines to the Pi without needing any level shifting
[22:26] <Sonny_Jim> It's very easy to interface a NES controller to GPIO
[22:27] <plugwash> that should work ok with basic nes controllers but may have problems with fancier stuff
[22:27] <Sonny_Jim> I managed to get my Pi to work as a SNES controller
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[22:27] <Sonny_Jim> as in GPIO -> SNES
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[22:27] <Stephini> ahh kk. for nes all i want is the basic controller. same for snes if i ever rig it. i'd love to at some point get paddle controllers workinb but i think i'll do that through USB. :P
[22:28] <ruif13> hia anyone can help i'm tryng to use my emacs eshell to raspberry and i need to use that with my ide of arduino
[22:28] <Sonny_Jim> So NES controller -> GPIO?
[22:28] <ruif13> anyone can help''?
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[22:28] <Sonny_Jim> There's a board that can make that very easy Stephini
[22:28] <Stephini> Sonny_Jim, exactly.
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[22:28] <Sonny_Jim> Lemme find the name of it
[22:29] <Sonny_Jim> http://blog.petrockblock.com/2012/10/21/the-retropie-gpio-adapter/
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[22:29] <Sonny_Jim> Cheap and it does exactly what you need
[22:29] <Stephini> Sonny_Jim, I can't afford said board and also dont want to give up EVERY GPIO pin to it as i also want to build a power switch, menu switch and led on the front of the build.
[22:29] <teclo-> hi I'm getting "macblk... I/O error.... " ... does that mean issues in the SDHC card ?
[22:29] <Sonny_Jim> It costs as much as the bits to do it yourself....
[22:30] <Sonny_Jim> You need some form of IC as you can't interface the controllers directly
[22:30] <Stephini> Sonny_Jim, like most premades it does most of what i need and everythign less picky people need. but since i want something more than that it is not eh best option. :P
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[22:30] <Sonny_Jim> Well, if you want to support just NES, you'll need a 4021
[22:31] <shauno> teclo-: usually, yup. that's usually the dreaded "oops, maybe I should have shutdown properly" error
[22:31] <Sonny_Jim> Or rather, you can use a 4021
[22:31] <teclo-> shauno: indeed I did not shutdown properly :(
[22:31] <Sonny_Jim> Ah wait, that's for going the other way
[22:31] <PovAddict> does the pi support SDXC?
[22:32] <plugwash> as I said with a basic nes pad you can just power it off 3.3V and hook it up directly
[22:32] <Sonny_Jim> You'll need a level shifter as the 4021 in the NES controllers doesn't like to run at 3.3v
[22:32] <Sonny_Jim> Oh really?
[22:32] <Sonny_Jim> TBH I've only messed around with SNES controllers and they worked better with 5V
[22:32] <Stephini> Sonny_Jim, i've seen plenty of builds that direct wired controllers to the pi. but maybe i'm missing what you mean by IC
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[22:32] <teclo-> shauno: actually, now my problem with my raspberry pi is that it often won't boot, only the red light lights up, and nothing. Then I remove the microusb and plug it again....
[22:33] <Sonny_Jim> Ideally, you should use some sort of buffer IC on the GPIO
[22:33] <Sonny_Jim> But it's your Pi
[22:33] <plugwash> Sonny_Jim, hmm, gordondrogon had it hooked up directly and claimed it worked. 4000 series parts are supposed to work down to pretty low voltages
[22:34] <plugwash> though they do get slow at low voltages, so if your software scans too fast that may be a problem
[22:34] <Sonny_Jim> Yeah, again I was messing around with the SNES protocol which is very similar but subtly different
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[22:35] <plugwash> iirc snes is the same except it has a second shift register chained for more buttons
[22:35] * Sonny_Jim nods
[22:35] <Sonny_Jim> Plus, I was going the other way with it, Pi -> SNES controller poirt
[22:35] <Sonny_Jim> Rather than SNES controller -> Pi
[22:35] <plugwash> yeah you will want level shifting to do that
[22:36] <PovAddict> controlling a snes from a virtual pi-based controller?
[22:36] <Sonny_Jim> Yeah
[22:36] <Sonny_Jim> Was fun
[22:36] <Sonny_Jim> lemme grab a video
[22:36] <Sonny_Jim> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da7j4CaIf8g&list=UU2RYN65FwHMOqLuzTqLii2g
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[22:36] <Sonny_Jim> It would play the games all by itself :-)
[22:37] <PovAddict> how does it know what buttons to press o.O
[22:37] <IT_Sean> why would you want to do that?
[22:37] <PovAddict> recorded sequence?
[22:38] <Sonny_Jim> IT_Sean: So I could use save data from Tool Assisted Speedruns on real hardware rather than an emulator
[22:38] <niston> back in the day, I used to play double dragon II on the NES, with a friend. we could finish the first 3 or so levels without even turning the TV on.
[22:38] <Sonny_Jim> Helps emulator authors improve their emulator accuracy
[22:38] <PovAddict> niston: :D
[22:38] <IT_Sean> Wow... that some serious nerdcore.
[22:39] * ozzzy has never had a game console
[22:39] <Sonny_Jim> It was actually fairly easy
[22:39] <Sonny_Jim> hardest part was converting the save data from emulator format to something my bot could read
[22:39] <Sonny_Jim> Because most emulators don't emulate each frame exactly the same as real hardware
[22:40] <teclo-> are these macblk errors on the dos boot partition or on the ext4 partition ?
[22:41] <Stephini> Sonny_Jim, what games were you TASing on real hardware? :P
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[22:43] <Sonny_Jim> Just the SMAS lost levels run, as that was the only one that was recorded using an accurate enough emulator (bsnes/lsnes)
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[22:43] <Sonny_Jim> But I could record myself playing using a USB joystick plugged into the Pi and play it back fine
[22:43] <Sonny_Jim> Was weird watching SuperGB with Gameboy Tetris playing itself lol
[22:43] <Sonny_Jim> My github has all the details
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[22:44] <Sonny_Jim> https://github.com/sonnyjim/snesbot
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[22:56] <DropBear> Sweet! Figured out how to set 8 gpios without having to loop (I'm easily humored)
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[22:59] <Sonny_Jim> Bitmask?
[23:01] <quantumfoam> so my googling is failing me, I'm wondering if this exists...probably does?
[23:02] <quantumfoam> I have an Rpi B+ in my living room running Raspbmc
[23:02] <quantumfoam> so
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[23:02] <quantumfoam> what I would like to do is use a webcam attached to it to record video (triggering recording is another thing I'm working on)
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[23:03] <quantumfoam> preferably to cloud storage but that's probably not a big deal to handle
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[23:04] <Sonny_Jim> There's quite a few tutorials on how to do that
[23:04] <niston> keywords "motion" +"raspberry pi"
[23:05] <Sonny_Jim> motion isn't that great for smooth video
[23:05] <Sonny_Jim> But as a security cam solution it works pretty good, can upload "to the cloud"
[23:05] <quantumfoam> ah, well I was specifically searching for an add-on for raspbmc
[23:05] <quantumfoam> which may not in fact exist
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[23:06] <quantumfoam> doesn't have to be super smooth; I just want decent video if my landlord enters my house without telling me when I'm not there
[23:06] <quantumfoam> could also be potentially useful if I get broken into but this house would be difficult to break into
[23:06] <quantumfoam> built in the 40s, tough as nails
[23:07] <quantumfoam> (tough on wifi, too, damn plaster walls)
[23:07] <Sonny_Jim> Yeah motion would do the trick nicely
[23:07] <ozzzy> hehe... if I locked my door on the way out I'd never get back in
[23:08] <quantumfoam> my state has shitty tenancy law so he can technically come in, and I want to know if he is because my lease has a lengthy and detailed "THOU SHALT NOT SMOKE THE HERB" clause
[23:08] <Sonny_Jim> http://technicallytom.com/2013/12/16/raspberry-pi-webcam/
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[23:08] <quantumfoam> my stuff is locked up, but still :P
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[23:09] <quantumfoam> Sonny_Jim: that looks pretty good
[23:09] <quantumfoam> thanks
[23:09] <quantumfoam> I have a cat who will trigger it so eventually I want to have a sensor on the door
[23:10] <quantumfoam> and trigger it with that, but that should be possible
[23:12] <niston> http://jeremyblythe.blogspot.ch/2012/07/raspberry-pi-gpio-and-motion.html
[23:12] <quantumfoam> sweet
[23:12] <quantumfoam> hmm wireless would be nice though...I'll have to see.
[23:12] <niston> you could use a reed relay for the door
[23:13] <l_r> i am interested in how the cpu usage during time would affect the rpi temperature, are there any links about this topic?
[23:13] <quantumfoam> my other thinking was that I could set up a remote xbee module and hook up both the door sensor and a doorbell to it
[23:13] <Sonny_Jim> TBH unless you are using your Pi in the desert, you don't really need to worry about temperatures
[23:13] <quantumfoam> ^
[23:13] <quantumfoam> mine barely gets warm even when playing 1080p content
[23:14] <l_r> quantumfoam, what's the cpu usage and how long does it work that way?
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[23:15] <quantumfoam> I haven't monitored the CPU usage while playing
[23:15] <quantumfoam> let me look
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[23:21] <quantumfoam> averaging about 26% actually
[23:21] <quantumfoam> but that makes sense considering it's getting offloaded to the GPU
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[23:23] <quantumfoam> currently at 40C
[23:23] <quantumfoam> so 104 F
[23:23] * ShorTie thinkz, facal reconigtion so it doesn't record all my movements .. :/~
[23:23] <quantumfoam> never really seen it any hotter than that
[23:24] <l_r> quantumfoam, what's the main process?
[23:24] <quantumfoam> l_r: are you overclocked?
[23:24] <l_r> motion?
[23:24] <l_r> quantumfoam, no...
[23:24] <l_r> quantumfoam, is it rp1 or rp2?
[23:24] <quantumfoam> kodi is the primary process
[23:24] <quantumfoam> that's the master process for xbmc
[23:24] <quantumfoam> RpiB+
[23:25] <iRaven> hi all
[23:26] <quantumfoam> if you were overclocking then temperature might be an issue
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[23:26] <quantumfoam> and even then adding a passive heatsink is likely all you'd need to do
[23:26] <Sonny_Jim> The Pi will underclock itself when it goes over 80c
[23:26] <Sonny_Jim> So you've got *plenty* of headroom
[23:27] <Sonny_Jim> Or maybe it's 85c?
[23:27] <taza> RPiB+ doesn't need any additional cooling even overclocking
[23:27] <Sonny_Jim> Nor does the Pi
[23:27] <Sonny_Jim> That's my point
[23:27] <taza> Unknown about Pi2, but
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[23:28] <quantumfoam> 80C would be rather hot
[23:28] <taza> All versions of the Pi don't need additional cooling - you'll fry the processor with overvolting before the cooling becomes relevant
[23:28] <taza> Assuming you're running it anywhere resembling room temperature anyway
[23:28] <ShorTie> ya, 80c i believe too...
[23:28] <taza> That is, all versions of the original Pi.
[23:28] <taza> Pi2 might be different
[23:29] <quantumfoam> I mean it's a really low power/efficient SoC
[23:29] <quantumfoam> that's why it runs off so little current
[23:29] <McBride36> that's why i got a heatsink for mine /s
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[23:29] <taza> Yes, but it can't even handle enough power to overheat it
[23:29] <quantumfoam> but even the power supply circuits don't need heatsinking
[23:30] <taza> Something else will kill the Pi long before overheating does, is the point.
[23:30] <kisak> my understanding was the broadcom chip was taking 5v directly and doing the conversion internally for what it needs
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[23:31] <niston> theres a PAMsomething chip that generates 3.3v and 1.8v
[23:31] <kisak> niston: but that's not used by the broadcom chip
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[23:31] <niston> or was it 2.5
[23:32] <kisak> mind you, this is second-hand information I heard on this irc channel
[23:33] <kisak> so I easily could be wrong
[23:33] <niston> the 2.5v is for the video DAC iirc. the DAC isn't a discrete chip, so..
[23:34] <iRaven> hi alll has anyone got a program called synchronet working on the raspberry pi
[23:36] <kisak> niston: seems like my information is incomplete? I may have heard something that only applies to the RPi2
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[23:39] <niston> I think shiftplusone would know the details
[23:40] <niston> but IIRC, it is the LAN chip that has indeed an internal regulator
[23:41] <niston> there was some issue with regulators fighting, leading to increased heat production on the LAN chip
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[23:45] <teclo-> hmmm now I'm stuck... when I plug my Raspberry Pi in, the red light is lit, and then... nothing... tried already 20 times
[23:46] <iRaven> i had that yesterday .... sd card was not in all the way or not seated correctly ...
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[23:57] <plugwash> kisak> my understanding was the broadcom chip was taking 5v directly and doing the conversion internally for what it needs <-- that's true for the core voltage on pi1 (pi2 has an external core voltage regulator) but the core voltage isn't the only supply the chip needs
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[23:58] <plugwash> <niston> there was some issue with regulators fighting, leading to increased heat production on the LAN chip <-- the lan chip has an internal 1.8V regulator whose output was inadvertantly connected to the main 1.8V rail on early models, I'm not sure the regulators really fought as such but depending on tolerances the regulator in the lan chip could end up taking all the 1.8V load
[23:59] <plugwash> I *think* the 1.8V is used for the memory but I'm not positive on that
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[23:59] <niston> yeah
[23:59] <niston> thats why the lan chip regulator got hot

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