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IRC Log for 2015-02-20

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[0:01] <avrdude> Has anyone here successfully completed this tutorial? http://qt-project.org/wiki/RaspberryPi_Beginners_guide
[0:01] <thyrth> it looks really complicated
[0:01] <Sonny_Jim> avrdude: Are you having a problem with it?
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[0:03] <Cprossu> nope I've only done this one -> http://qt-project.org/wiki/Native_Build_of_Qt5_on_a_Raspberry_Pi
[0:03] <avrdude> yes, i can't seem to build and deploy the example project
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[0:03] <avrdude> getting all kinds of errors
[0:04] <avrdude> i would prefer developing on a desktop, and not on the pi itself
[0:05] <Sonny_Jim> Fair enough
[0:05] <thescatman> Guys, I was wondering, I'm going to be installing a raspberry pi at work but they have brown outs every day. If I were to plug a battery into the wall and into the pi, I could use it as a makeshift UPS right>
[0:05] <thescatman> ?
[0:05] <Sonny_Jim> I was about to point out why you don't download the pre-complied QT5
[0:06] <avrdude> what do you mean?
[0:06] <Sonny_Jim> thescatman: Depends if the battery works like that, it might cause a reset
[0:06] <Sonny_Jim> "We are generating Qt 5 nightlies for the Raspberry PI reference Raspbian image, and these are available here:"
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[0:06] <Sonny_Jim> from http://qt-project.org/wiki/RaspberryPi
[0:07] <avrdude> i dont get it.. i havent done anything to the pi.. the trouble is setting up the cross compile environment on the desktop
[0:07] <avrdude> am i supposed to have changed something on the pi?
[0:07] <H__> thescatman: only is that battery allows being charged i think
[0:07] <thyrth> Can I change icons to Like Numix on Pidora?
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[0:08] <Sonny_Jim> avrdude: From glancing at the doc you linked to, you download and modify a raspbian image
[0:08] <thescatman> H__, sorry I don't understand
[0:08] <avrdude> why would you modify the image though? isnt all the work done on the desktop?
[0:08] <Sonny_Jim> Are you planning to use qt5 or are just looking for a cross-compile guide?
[0:08] <thescatman> http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00J1V6ESQ/ref=noref?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&s=computers this is the battery
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[0:08] <avrdude> Sonny_Jim, i want to make qt5 apps for the pi, on my desktop
[0:08] <Sonny_Jim> avrdude: Because you need to link it against various libraries that are in the image
[0:09] <Cprossu> well now that there's qt talk happening... http://pastebin.com/DhE6ZpPu what the heck do I have to do in order to either get Qt5X11Extras installed/compiled or what the heck do I have to do to tell cmake where it is (and where would it be?) I've compiled qt5 viat the guide I mentioned earlier.
[0:09] <thescatman> Do you mean only if the battery allows to be charged and to give charge at the same time?
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[0:09] <avrdude> Sonny_Jim, i have mounted a copy of the image though, and used that
[0:09] <H__> thescatman: i assume you want a 5V battery in parallel to the 5V power supply, That means you have to use a battery that allows being charged, so not a normal battery.
[0:10] <thescatman> i mean having the power go:
[0:10] <thescatman> wall plug -> battery pack -> pi
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[0:10] <thyrth> Has any installed Numix icons on Pidora ?
[0:11] <Sonny_Jim> thescatman: http://www.piups.net/plus/?lp=ose
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[0:11] <H__> thescatman: yes, that's the situation i'm describing. That battery must allow a charge or you risk exploding it
[0:12] <thescatman> oh. :|
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[0:12] <ShorTie> like this maybe ?? http://www.repairhub.co.uk/content/resources/raspberry-pi-battery-backup
[0:12] <Cprossu> technically you could have a lead acid batt on a trickle charger/tender and that hooked to an rpi through a regulator
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[0:13] <Sonny_Jim> Cprossu: Bit overkill, really.
[0:14] <thescatman> I was hoping to do it with just that battery :L
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[0:15] <ali1234> most of those battery packs will allow the wall plug to power whatever is plugged in to their down stream port
[0:15] <Sonny_Jim> You need to have an 'intelligent' charging circuit when using NiMh or LiPo
[0:15] <Sonny_Jim> Oh I see what you mean
[0:15] <Sonny_Jim> You are on about those mobile phone backup battery things
[0:15] <ali1234> however this interferes with the charging circuit, and depending on whether it is properly designed or not, could wear out the cells quicker or even set on fire
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[0:16] <thescatman> umm.. oik
[0:16] <ali1234> and the thing is... a lot of those cheap USB lipo packs are REALLY badly designed
[0:16] <ali1234> if they are not outright fake
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[0:16] <Sonny_Jim> Yeah, I saw one advertised the other day at 50AH
[0:16] <thescatman> http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00J1V6ESQ/ref=noref?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&s=computers would only be plugged into the wall with a 5V 2Amp plug anyway
[0:16] <Cprossu> the packs are badly designed, and the batties themselves are often worse
[0:16] <Cprossu> beware lipo =P
[0:16] <Sonny_Jim> That's huge!
[0:16] <ali1234> yeah 50AH is a blatant lie
[0:16] <thescatman> lol 50Ah
[0:17] <thescatman> that's car battery size
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[0:17] <ali1234> not with lipos
[0:17] <thescatman> then again 5 of mone would be 50Ah
[0:17] <Cprossu> ever seen these though?
[0:17] <ali1234> but it would still be bigger than the thing they were claiming was 50AH (and it was mostly empty inside too)
[0:17] <Cprossu> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Easyjumper-Multi-function-Emergency-Flashlight-Smartphone/dp/B00QZKSKGK
[0:17] <thescatman> mine*
[0:17] <Cprossu> these are INSANE
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[0:18] <thetora> maybe we should get them taken away to the loony bin
[0:19] <thetora> oh hey! i totally have one of those
[0:19] <Cprossu> I wish they sold them here
[0:19] <thetora> a friend gave one to me
[0:19] <ali1234> the way to spot fakes is to know what's inside those things
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[0:20] <ali1234> when you know the dimensions of the standard cells they use you can tell from the shape of the case how many cells are in it, and from that the approximate capacity
[0:20] <thetora> i thought to myself "oh... a car starter. well, that is cool." then i see the USB and 2.1 amps and the flashlight... it's a LiPo battery
[0:21] <thetora> i was like.... oh damn! this is way cooler than i thought, and i dont think they (the person that gave it to me) realize how awesome this is!
[0:21] <Cprossu> that being said I wouldn't want to store it in my car in the arizona heat
[0:21] <Cprossu> still it's awesome
[0:21] <thescatman> so you basically wouldn't ever plug my kind of battery pack into the wall and the pi at the same time
[0:21] <ali1234> no, i would
[0:21] <ali1234> after taking it apart and verifying the circuit actually works
[0:22] <Sonny_Jim> lol that link is awesome
[0:22] <Sonny_Jim> "The car jump starter is compact and portable, can jump start your car 3000 times in emergency if fully charged"
[0:22] <Sonny_Jim> 3000 times!
[0:22] <thescatman> ali1234, is there any way I personally could do that with AS level experience in electronics
[0:22] <thescatman> (1 year at age ~16)
[0:23] <Sonny_Jim> Peak Current:400A
[0:23] <Sonny_Jim> lol
[0:23] <ali1234> thescatman: all you need is a oscilloscope with logging, or a multimeter and patience
[0:24] <ali1234> actually that's not really true
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[0:24] <ali1234> you also need to reverse engineer the charging circuit
[0:25] <thescatman> um... Think i'll pass then
[0:25] <ali1234> but that will almost certainly be a dw01, an 8205a mosfet, and a one-chip charge controller
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[0:25] <ali1234> you can also build the thing yourself quite easily
[0:26] <ali1234> you can buy the charging modules on ebay for about 50p each
[0:26] <ali1234> and the 5v boost regulator for about the same
[0:26] <thescatman> All I have at home is a crappy soldering iron tbh, I'm at uni
[0:26] <ali1234> you just provide the cells
[0:26] <thescatman> all I have here*
[0:26] <thescatman> oh sorry, bad* soldering iron
[0:27] <ali1234> if you obtain any recently deceased laptop battery, chances are it has about 10 good cells and 2 bad ones in it
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[0:27] <ali1234> that breett thing probably has 5 or 6 cells in it, if it isn't massively overstating it's capacity
[0:28] <ali1234> which it almost certainly is at that price
[0:28] <thescatman> it's not, from my testing
[0:29] <ali1234> oh, you already bought it and have it?
[0:29] <thescatman> yeah I have it...
[0:29] <ali1234> how heavy is it?
[0:29] <thescatman> pretty heavy
[0:29] <ali1234> (not that they couldnt just fill it with rocks or something)
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[0:30] <ali1234> well, to "test" it, what you want to do is wear down the battery a bit
[0:30] <thescatman> it seems to charge about 75-80% of what it says
[0:30] <ali1234> then plug it in to the wall and the pi
[0:30] <ali1234> and see if it ever stops charging the battery
[0:30] <ali1234> as long as it does eventually stop, it is theoretically safe
[0:30] <ali1234> as safe as lipos ever get anyway
[0:31] <thescatman> so what you're saying, is if it stops charging the battery when it gets full, with the pi running from it, it should be safwe
[0:31] <ali1234> yeah
[0:31] <ali1234> that's the main concern
[0:31] <ali1234> lipo batteries will keep on drawing a charge current after they are charged
[0:31] <ali1234> the charger circuit stops when that current gets down to a certain level
[0:32] <ali1234> say 100mA
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[0:32] <chod> voltage pushes the current through the resistance
[0:32] <ali1234> but if you are running a pi at the same time, it will use some current
[0:32] <thescatman> right
[0:32] <ali1234> so the charger might be confused by this, and never stop trying to charge the batteries
[0:32] <ali1234> which would be bad
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[0:32] <ali1234> obviously don't leave this test running unsupervised
[0:33] <AirForce590> How can I power a pi and servos from the same li-ion?
[0:33] <thetora> *sigh* i've been trying settings all day. i cant get the pi to output video correctly on a VGA adapter
[0:34] <ali1234> thescatman: here's dave https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6mKd5_-abk
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[0:34] <AirForce590> Anyone?
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[0:34] <thescatman> ali1234, thanks! I learn something new every day it seems
[0:34] <ali1234> AirForce590: have two regulators, one for the pi and one for the servo power?
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[0:34] <thetora> i've got "hdmi_mode=1" and "hdmi_group=1" uncommented, but it still has to connect using a digital signal before it can output a analog
[0:35] <thetora> s/a/an
[0:35] <AirForce590> Yeah, but how could I up the voltage
[0:35] <ali1234> with a boost regulator
[0:35] <AirForce590> Ok
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[0:36] <thescatman> thetora, are you using an active hdmi-vga adapter
[0:36] <thetora> how would i determine if it is an active HDMI-VGA?
[0:36] <thescatman> http://img.misco.eu/resources/images/products/100/SRH/HD/HD2VGAE2//HD2VGAE2_1600x1600.jpg
[0:36] <chod> how much was it
[0:36] <thescatman> that kinda thing is active
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[0:37] <thescatman> i don't think the pi would work with passive
[0:37] <thetora> yeah, it looks almost exactly like the one in the image
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[0:40] <thetora> if i do sudo reboot, it keeps working
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[0:41] <thetora> but if i unplug the power it has to boot with HDMI first
[0:41] <chod> does the adaptor have its own power?
[0:41] <thetora> no
[0:41] <thetora> the power adapter i am using supplies 2.1A
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[0:43] <thetora> oh cool, now i got it to work... but the resolution and overscan is still off
[0:44] <thetora> and by "off" i mean "not perfect and a little blurry"
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[0:56] <thetora> i guess everyone went home
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[0:59] <thetora> i figured it out
[0:59] <thetora> using this page: http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/tags/config.txt/info
[1:00] <thetora> i set hdmi_group=2 and hdmi_mode=16
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[1:06] <thyrth> has any one gotten Numix on Pidora?
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[1:10] <PovAddict> can I be notifie when an input GPIO changes, as opposed to polling it every $interval?
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[1:17] <[Saint]> http://imgur.com/a/m1bYv
[1:17] <[Saint]> blargh - whoops
[1:18] <[Saint]> Sorry, didn't mean to paste that - but if anyone's interested, that's me fiddlin' around with a couple of (named in the album title) Xposed modules on Android 5.0.2
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[1:23] <PovAddict> oh I see RPi.GPIO 0.5.1 has interrupts :O
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[1:28] <hinv> Does cyanogenmod work on the RPi2 yet?
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[1:47] <Sonny_Jim> Am I the only person who thinks it would be quite fitting to have a BBC B emulator running on the Pi?
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[1:59] <scatoverflow> that'd be so cool Sonny_Jim
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[1:59] <scatoverflow> All my comp sci teacher in sixth form reminisced about was the bbc micro
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[2:02] <Sonny_Jim> I'm surprised no one has tried it yet
[2:04] <Bilby> hah, that would be funny
[2:05] <thescatman> I actually thought retroPie had it
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[2:05] <Sonny_Jim> I've never checked
[2:06] <Sonny_Jim> Unless RetroPie ships with MESS, but I didn't think it did
[2:06] <thescatman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vETfAB2N5Sc
[2:06] <thescatman> seems like it's doable lol
[2:06] <thescatman> What I'd LOVE to do is get a pi and put it in a BBC micro
[2:07] <Sonny_Jim> Never thought Beebit was that compatible
[2:09] <Bilby> thescatman if you did, I think the Rpi folks would lose their little shiny marbles :P
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[2:10] <Bilby> you going to post that to the sub?
[2:10] <ali1234> the BBC needs a quite large ROM to do anything, and that ROM is still copyrighted by an active company
[2:11] <Bilby> that guy's voice is borderline ASMR
[2:12] <Sonny_Jim> Ah it seems BeebIt will run Elite which is good enough for me ;-)
[2:12] <Sonny_Jim> ali1234: Tell that to archive.org, courtesy of the MAME/MESS project you can grab the ROM from there
[2:14] <Bilby> holy heck, that risc os looks like windows 3.1
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[2:15] <Sonny_Jim> There's a very good reason for that ;-)
[2:15] <Sonny_Jim> Although RISC OS had a few advantages over Windows which I won't go into
[2:15] <Bilby> it does look fast
[2:15] <Bilby> i'm reading faqs ;)
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[2:23] <Bilby> RISC OS is a full desktop OS, where the core system including windowing system and a few apps fits inside 6MB.
[2:23] <Bilby> :O
[2:24] <PovAddict> 6MB?
[2:24] <PovAddict> that's too many floppies
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[2:24] <shiftplusone> A full desktop OS which can do absolutely nothing =P
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[2:26] <thescatman> that's waht I was thinking.. it's gonna be pretty useless
[2:26] <Sonny_Jim> What shiftplusone said;
[2:27] <Sonny_Jim> Whilst RISC OS on the Pi is a fun novelty, you'll quickly miss all those things that you got used to having with a mature Linux kernel
[2:27] <Sonny_Jim> Like WiFi drivers etc
[2:27] <Sonny_Jim> Or even just basic software
[2:28] <shiftplusone> It's great if you want to play with writing asm
[2:28] <shiftplusone> but who does
[2:28] <Sonny_Jim> iirc in BASIC V you can drop to ASM right in the middle of a BASIC program
[2:28] <Sonny_Jim> At least I know you could on a BBC B
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[2:29] <shiftplusone> a SYS call or something?
[2:30] <Sonny_Jim> Nah it was even easier than that, lemme look it up
[2:30] <Sonny_Jim> I remember I would sketch out a program in BASIC, then convert the loops/intensive stuff to ASM
[2:30] <shiftplusone> ah
[2:30] <Sonny_Jim> No, you were right, it's a CALL command
[2:31] <Sonny_Jim> http://www.worldofspectrum.org/z88forever/dn327/basicasm.htm
[2:31] <Bilby> I wonder how big Win3.1 was. I remember it not being too many floppies
[2:31] <Sonny_Jim> Oh and I was right as well;
[2:31] <Sonny_Jim> "Assembler source may simply be placed within the BASIC program, surrounded by square brackets."
[2:31] <McBride36> like six or eight
[2:31] <thescatman> Ah I jsut found you can put the ZX spectrum on a pi to
[2:31] <Sonny_Jim> Don't forget the DOS floppies as well
[2:31] <thescatman> too*
[2:32] <McBride36> lol, i have some sort of game on an eight inch floppy
[2:32] <Bilby> Just watching this guy ASMR his way through the OS makes me long for something more polished lol
[2:32] <Bilby> it feels very retro though. Should start kids out on that :P
[2:33] <Bilby> probably not going to catch a virus, that's for sure
[2:33] * shiftplusone has a floppy of early MS excell (not quite) for the C64 >_<
[2:33] <McBride36> speaking of kids, anyone messed with scratch?
[2:33] <McBride36> i feel like python is easier than scratch
[2:33] <thescatman> never bothered going near it
[2:33] <Bilby> I think scratch is easy if you know no programming languages... otherwise python is easier.
[2:34] <thescatman> seems like a pre-programming kinda thing
[2:34] <shiftplusone> McBride36, I doubt python is easier for kids. I think drag and drop is pretty intuitive, but if you're familiar with programming concepts, it just gets in the way.
[2:34] <Bilby> speaking of programming, i'm going to go have dinner, a drink, and maybe a quick romp under the covers >_>
[2:35] <Sonny_Jim> shiftplusone: You should try MAX
[2:35] <Sonny_Jim> It's a drag/drop programming language for musicians and hoo boy does it suck if you are used to any other language
[2:35] <shiftplusone> heh
[2:36] <shiftplusone> There's also PLC ladder logic, which is terrible.
[2:36] <McBride36> DON'T GET ME STARTED ON LADDER LOGIC
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[2:36] <shiftplusone> Designed for electricians, so it's....
[2:36] <shiftplusone> yeah
[2:36] <Sonny_Jim> It's a descendant of PureData
[2:36] <McBride36> i work with PLCs occasionally
[2:36] <shiftplusone> heh
[2:36] <shiftplusone> when learning about PLCs, all I could think was ".....wwwwhy!?"
[2:37] <Sonny_Jim> I mean just look at this;
[2:37] <Sonny_Jim> http://cdn.instructables.com/F7C/IK4H/HLZH2FZK/F7CIK4HHLZH2FZK.LARGE.jpg
[2:37] <thescatman> PLC?
[2:37] <shiftplusone> but it makes sense in the context they're used, I suppose.
[2:37] <McBride36> huh, all i could think was "i hate everything"
[2:37] <McBride36> thescatman, programmable logic controller
[2:37] <Sonny_Jim> And that's from a starter tutorial, you can imagine what a complex MAX program can look like
[2:37] <McBride36> shiftplusone, fun fact, one of my projects right now involve the pi as a controller
[2:38] <McBride36> i coudln't get the stepper motor to work
[2:38] <McBride36> so i put a PLC in and it worked
[2:38] <shiftplusone> hm
[2:38] <McBride36> switched back to Pi, used a different GPIO library and it worked. turns out the pi has a higher clock speed
[2:39] <McBride36> wait.. i don't think that's what i mean
[2:39] <McBride36> higher PWM rate iirc
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[2:40] <McBride36> either way, python is easier than anything else
[2:40] <shiftplusone> well
[2:40] <thescatman> scratch i'm sure is easier
[2:40] <thescatman> but that's not really programming afaik
[2:40] <shiftplusone> until you get to OOP, decorators and all that fun stuff which I'm not interested in touching, so it's C all the way for me.
[2:41] <McBride36> C and it's like go over my head
[2:41] <thescatman> ugh oop
[2:41] <thescatman> Having to learn java atm. don't like it.
[2:41] <shiftplusone> ouch
[2:42] <Sonny_Jim> I really should start doing OOP, but it's never set in. I can barely get my head around pointers
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[2:42] <shiftplusone> heh
[2:42] <thescatman> just plugging in a retropie card... this had better go better than raspbian
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[2:43] <McBride36> shiftplusone, do you work with PLCs at all?
[2:43] <thescatman> corrupted then couldn't even get a clean os to work on it
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[2:44] <shiftplusone> McBride36, nope, just had to learn to program them for uni.
[2:44] <McBride36> ah
[2:44] <shiftplusone> I currently do only pi stuff
[2:44] <McBride36> i'm trying to figure out a good way for error checking
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[2:46] <shiftplusone> Gadgetoid, heh... I see eevblog has retweeted something of yours.
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[2:48] <thyrth> pidora is odd
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[2:49] <shiftplusone> yes
[2:49] <thyrth> I'm on it right now Its weird ah ha
[2:50] <thyrth> I think I might go back to Rasperrain ah ah
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[2:51] <thyrth> IS there more desktop envorments in the wiki ?
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[2:54] <thescatman> uhh
[2:54] <thescatman> can someone clarify something for me
[2:54] <thescatman> EmulationStation (retropie) has DOSBOX emultor
[2:54] <thescatman> emulator*
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[2:55] <Sonny_Jim> Was that a question or statement?
[2:55] <thescatman> Does that mean I can run windows 98 on DOSBOX in the raspberry pi?
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[2:55] <PovAddict> you can't run windows on dosbox
[2:55] <Triffid_Hunter> thescatman: win98 doesn't work in dosbox, the latest one that works is 3.11 for workgroups afaik
[2:55] <Sonny_Jim> I dunno, I bet someone has tried it though
[2:56] <Triffid_Hunter> dosbox doesn't have protected mode
[2:56] <thescatman> so why would it work in something like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EASlvkZ-_wU
[2:56] <Sonny_Jim> http://dosbox95.darktraveler.com/
[2:56] <Sonny_Jim> I think recently you can run Win95
[2:56] <thescatman> do you need to have a 64 bit processor then to run it i assue
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[2:57] <Triffid_Hunter> thescatman: well if that's a recent addition, I expect it would be abysmally slow on the RPi
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[2:57] <Sonny_Jim> thescatman: Why do you assume that? It's an emulator
[2:57] <thescatman> hmm... do you think 95 would run fine on it?
[2:58] <thescatman> I don't know. Haven't really used emulation/VMs much Sonny_Jim
[2:58] <Triffid_Hunter> thescatman: dosbox is an emulator. RPi has poor performance at the best of times. it's going to be abysmally slow no matter what you do
[2:58] <thescatman> Even the Pi 2?
[2:58] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm, I wonder if the RPi version of dosbox can do protected mode
[2:58] <thescatman> that's what I was talking about*
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[2:59] <Triffid_Hunter> thescatman: Pi2 is faster, but emulating x86 is still gonna be slow as a stoned snail
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[2:59] <thescatman> lol, ok, i won't bother. I'l try and put w 3.1 on it
[3:00] <Triffid_Hunter> thescatman: that vid is running in bochs, not dosbox
[3:00] <thescatman> ok
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[3:01] <Triffid_Hunter> or at least they generated the image with bochs.. not really sure what's going on just yet
[3:02] <thescatman> how would I I jsut installed retropie, and i'm working through it for the first time- are there onmly 6 emulators installed on it at stock?
[3:03] <Triffid_Hunter> thescatman: how many do you need?
[3:03] <thescatman> I can only see mac, x86, apple 2, scummVM, amiga and ports
[3:03] <Triffid_Hunter> should be MAME too ?
[3:04] <thescatman> am just working out how it works atm but i wanted to put some n64/ mame / ps1 games on it
[3:04] <Triffid_Hunter> thescatman: lol I seriously doubt the RPi could emulate n64/ps1
[3:04] <thescatman> pi 2*
[3:04] <thescatman> it seems like it does, pretty well
[3:05] <PovAddict> aren't those emulators typically written in assembly, and thus not portable outside their original architecture?
[3:05] <thescatman> regardless how do I get to the other emulators? I found this 'scrape sites' thing and it's jsut showing those 6 systems
[3:07] <Triffid_Hunter> thescatman: apt-get?
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[3:08] <Sonny_Jim> Triffid_Hunter: There's videos o the Pi2 running PS1/N64 fulls pped on the front page of raspberrverrypi.org
[3:09] <Triffid_Hunter> oh nice
[3:09] <thescatman> ya
[3:09] <Sonny_Jim> pov Very little emulators are written in ASM nowadays
[3:09] <thescatman> a couple of games are unplayable with the pi 2 on n64, like goldeneye
[3:10] <thescatman> but most have good performance
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[3:10] <Sonny_Jim> Well, some still use x86 ASM CPU cores
[3:10] <Triffid_Hunter> what happens with goldeneye? I remember emulating that on PC ages ago, and half the walls were transparent
[3:10] <Sonny_Jim> But the good news is that there's quite a few more ARM CPU cores around now
[3:10] <Triffid_Hunter> was fun, but a bit cheaty
[3:11] <thescatman> 15fps
[3:11] <thescatman> it seems is the main problem.
[3:11] <thescatman> umm
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[3:13] <Sonny_Jim> As it happens I'm actually just compiling MAME now, it's only taken 3 days lol
[3:13] <Sonny_Jim> linking when using a 1GB swap file is slooooow
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[3:13] <PovAddict> lol
[3:14] <Sonny_Jim> MESS has compiled OK if anyone wants to try that, although you might need SDL2 installed
[3:14] <Sonny_Jim> Don't know if that's in the raspbian repos yet
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[3:17] <Sonny_Jim> The good news is that I've managed to get OpenGLES2 acceleration to work, so maybe it won't be entirely glacial
[3:17] <Sonny_Jim> But with MAME/MESS it's usually bound by the CPU rather than GPU
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[3:18] <thescatman> so confused
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[3:22] <Triffid_Hunter> Sonny_Jim: sounds like it'd be quicker to set up a cross compiler
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[3:26] <chipmadness> has anyone thought of making a magnet generator?
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[3:31] <thescatman> has anyone here done retropie?
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[3:31] <thescatman> i did startx and it's not working
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[3:32] <Sonny_Jim> I don't think there's a desktop environment in Retropie
[3:32] <Sonny_Jim> It's all done through the framebuffer (ie console)
[3:32] <phire> no framebuffer
[3:32] <phire> egl
[3:33] <phire> if you want to get things to the screen quickly, use egl or dispmanx
[3:34] <thescatman> I was following this
[3:34] <thescatman> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL4bcQOkULM#t=283
[3:34] <thescatman> they type startX which brings them to raspbian where they set some stuff up
[3:35] <Sonny_Jim> Either way, I seem to remember emulation station all ran under the console, not X
[3:35] <thescatman> i thought so too
[3:35] <thescatman> i'll try to do it just through console but idk what to do now as it seems to have frozen
[3:35] <phire> it's just launching the gui to configure wifi
[3:35] <phire> you can do that from the console too
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[3:37] <thescatman> http://imgur.com/fXD7Hjb is what it did
[3:38] <thescatman> tiny white box in the corner of my screen, and unresponsive
[3:39] <[Saint]> chipmadness: http://i.imgur.com/lyi7Gb3.png?1
[3:39] <[Saint]> (and, anyone else)
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[3:39] <thescatman> stuff it i'll pull the power and hope it doesn't corrupt
[3:40] <[Saint]> Actually, I might make one of those for my desktop.
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[3:41] <[Saint]> "RASPBERRYPI, HOW DO THEY WORK? YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN THAT"
[3:41] <shiftplusone> O_o
[3:41] <[Saint]> image is SFW, BTW (as per channel guidelines)
[3:42] <Triffid_Hunter> thescatman: try ctrl+alt+f1, it may have just switched to vt7 then failed to start the server
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[3:43] <thescatman> i'll write that down for reference
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[3:44] <thescatman> Triffid_Hunter, tried the same thing again, same thing happened, ctrl alt f1 got me out
[3:44] <Triffid_Hunter> thescatman: alt+f1 through alt+f6 are usually virtual terminals (set up by /etc/inittab), f7 is usually used by X. Since X itself eats alt+fn shortcuts, we have to add ctrl to get out of it
[3:44] <ozzzy_> [Saint], I have a copy of the 13th century book of spells... it explains how they work
[3:44] <thescatman> right.
[3:45] <Sonny_Jim> Does ctrl-alt-backspace still work?
[3:45] <thescatman> Triffid_Hunter, Is there a way I could get startX to work? or not even bother and do it through terminal
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[3:48] <Triffid_Hunter> thescatman: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for what it's choking on, or ask around in retropi circles
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[3:53] <chipmadness> ozzzy_ u have a book about magnet generator?
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[3:55] <thescatman> sime question
[3:55] <thescatman> simple* it's 3am here..
[3:56] <thescatman> if it goes from pi@retropie ~ $
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[3:56] <thescatman> where i can input a command
[3:56] <thescatman> to nothing, because something broke and i came out of it
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[3:56] <thescatman> how do i get back the pi@retropie thing
[3:58] <Sonny_Jim> ctrl-c?
[3:58] <abnormal> that's copy
[3:59] <abnormal> and ctrl - v is paste
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[3:59] <PovAddict> not in the console
[4:01] <abnormal> in the console is right click stuff
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[4:01] <Sonny_Jim> It's ctrl-a, esc, cursor keys then enter :-p
[4:01] <Sonny_Jim> then ctrl-]
[4:02] <Sonny_Jim> Or y twice in visual mode
[4:02] <Sonny_Jim> Isn't Linux really intuitive?
[4:02] <Sonny_Jim> (sracasm)
[4:02] <tacoexe> D:
[4:02] <shiftplusone> for what it's worth, it's not any easier in windows
[4:03] <Sonny_Jim> Oh come on now
[4:03] <shiftplusone> can't just ctrl-c ctrl-v in command line
[4:03] <Sonny_Jim> Oh I see
[4:03] <tacoexe> welcome to unix
[4:03] <Sonny_Jim> I was about to say, that's one thing windowsdid do right, uniffied copy/paste commands
[4:04] <Sonny_Jim> Yay MAME has finished linking
[4:04] <Sonny_Jim> real 540m14.714s
[4:04] <tacoexe> in linux... you can make your own command
[4:04] <tacoexe> or... not...use...a mouse!!!
[4:04] <shiftplusone> I find gpm to work the way you'd expect
[4:05] <tacoexe> i need sleep
[4:05] * tacoexe sleep
[4:05] <thescatman> Sonny_Jim, is that the old pi?
[4:05] <shiftplusone> nobody NEEDS sleep. You just want sleep.
[4:05] <Triffid_Hunter> gpm is nice on console
[4:05] <thescatman> why does mame on pi need to compile for days anyway? unlike retropie
[4:06] <Triffid_Hunter> thescatman: installing precompiled binaries != compiling
[4:07] <Sonny_Jim> That was just for linking btw
[4:07] <Sonny_Jim> The actual compile took longer
[4:08] <thescatman> ah ok
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[4:14] <Sonny_Jim> lol
[4:15] <Sonny_Jim> After all that, it segfaults when starting a game
[4:15] <thescatman> :l
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[4:16] <jamesd_> if the game segfaults, the game adknowledges your awesomeness, and just gives up.
[4:16] <jamesd_> YOU WIN\
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[4:47] <McBride36> gg no re Sonny_Jim
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[5:03] <dr4ke> Guys, I'd like a second opinion on this project: https://thinkrpi.wordpress.com/2013/05/22/opencv-and-camera-board-csi/comment-page-1/#comment-2709
[5:03] <dr4ke> Could this be done on ALARM? Or only Raspbian?
[5:03] <shiftplusone> either
[5:04] <dr4ke> More importantly, has anyone done it on ALARM?
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[5:04] <shiftplusone> it's.... all the same.
[5:04] <shiftplusone> really doesn't matter what distro you use
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[5:06] <shiftplusone> dr4ke, I have a hello_mmal example which is stripped down raspivid with opencv face detection and dispmanx to draw a square over it. I need to polish it a little and push it to github still, but it's coming, if you're interested.
[5:06] <dr4ke> shiftplusone: Thanks for your input. I didn't think so either because this dude is basically just using make to compile a package off of Github.
[5:07] <dr4ke> shiftplusone: Of course I am!
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[5:07] <dr4ke> shiftplusone: I'll be on here a lot more often... so just let me know when you push it.
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[5:07] <shiftplusone> I'm currently on holidays and my todo list has filled up in the meanwhile, but I'll see how soon I can push it out when I get back. Maybe in a week or two.
[5:08] <dr4ke> Hey... no sweat. Take your time. Good stuff always takes time.
[5:08] <dr4ke> I'm going to attempt this dude's tut using Arch and see how it goes.
[5:09] <dr4ke> shiftplusone: Thanks again. I'll probably be back over the weekend.
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[5:09] <shiftplusone> np
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[5:10] <McBride36> i just can't get alarm set up properly
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[5:19] <[Saint]> Police auctions man...
[5:19] <[Saint]> partially copy/pasted from another channel since I'm lazy:
[5:20] <[Saint]> double wide server case with 2PCIe x16 and two PCIe x8 rails, 8PCI slots, an Intel (ewwww) Xeon (yay!) X7460 (2.7GHz x6 w/ HT for 12 effective cores), 16GB of RAM (2GB x8 w/ 2 slots free), 8TB of assorted SSDs, and 8TB of WD Greens.
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[5:20] <[Saint]> FOr $115 NZD
[5:20] <[Saint]> (nope - I didn't miss a 0 on the end)
[5:20] <McBride36> link
[5:20] <McBride36> i want that
[5:21] <[Saint]> I already bought it hun. ANd its not an online auction anyway.
[5:21] <McBride36> >:(
[5:21] <[Saint]> Police auction, proceeds for the victims of crime.
[5:22] <[Saint]> All ~40-odd kg of the bugger is sittin' in the car now. It was a mission getting it in there, I need a break before getting it out again.
[5:22] <[Saint]> I feel the need to E-brag about this one. Its my second police auction server, but this one takes the cake.
[5:23] <[Saint]> Are you in NZ, McBride36?
[5:24] <[Saint]> If not, I would think shipping would be prohibitively expensive.
[5:24] <McBride36> i'm looking to move out
[5:24] <McBride36> it'd be a good excuse
[5:27] <[Saint]> Hahahaha
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[5:28] <McBride36> well congrats on the server [Saint], imma hit the hay myself
[5:29] <[Saint]> Sleep well bud.
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[6:16] <JohnnyBitcoin> anyone now how I can change my monitor orientation in Raspbian?
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[6:26] <chithead> JohnnyBitcoin: display_rotate in config.txt http://elinux.org/RPiconfig
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[7:23] <Bojangles> would i need a raspberry pi or arduino? i want to use piezo trigger to send the right velocity and information in midi form to a program on my computer. essentially a midi controller?
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[9:09] <swif> hey guys ! do u know if sandisk microSD 64GB class 10 have an issue compatibility with Pi2 ?
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[9:10] <ShorTie> most likely not, if they are formatted right
[9:10] <swif> with sdformater
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[9:11] <swif> all 32gb work except 64gb
[9:11] <ShorTie> ummm, sorry, not sure how sdformater handles >32meg stuff
[9:11] <swif> yup in v4.0
[9:12] <ShorTie> >32g stuff normally format exfat, which doesn't work
[9:12] <swif> do u know an alternative program ?
[9:14] <clever> from what i know, as long as the 1st partition is the usual size (under 500mb), there should be nothing stopping you from just using the right FS
[9:14] <ShorTie> there is a format changer out there, but the name eludes me right know
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[9:14] <clever> the total disk size shouldnt matter at all
[9:14] <ShorTie> it's the formatting that causes problemo's
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[9:15] <swif> yeah, i tried a 32Mb partition and nothing worked, green led and no display
[9:15] <ShorTie> google exfat format changer maybe
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[9:17] <ShorTie> try this maybe http://rufus.akeo.ie/
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[9:18] <swif> nope,just for usb stick
[9:19] <ShorTie> isn't that what a sdcard in a adpter is ??
[9:21] <ShorTie> here is another maybe http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?guiformat.htm
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[9:22] <swif> yup i see that, i retried with rufus and now he see my microsd, currently formatting, thx
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[10:04] <Froolap> mumble
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[10:55] <kevireilly_> aberrant: around by chance?
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[12:33] <djhworld> hi there, I was just wondering if anyone can help me with this? http://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/2wj8n4/need_help_with_2_pin_switch/
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[12:37] <SpeedEvil> For a two pin switch - you connect one pin of the switch to ground, one to a GPIO.
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[12:37] <SpeedEvil> Also to the same GPIO, you connect a 1K or so resistor to the 3.3V supply
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[12:44] <djhworld> so for the GPIO side, it goes, pin on switch -> GPIO -> resistor -> 3.3v line?
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[12:48] <pksato> djhworld: https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/projects/raspberrypi/tutorials/robot/buttons_and_switches/
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[13:00] <Muchoz> I'm most probably gonna buy 2 new 1440p monitors. I've got a Raspberry Pi that comes in handy quite some time even though I don't use it that often but am wondering whether it will output 1440p which I highly doubt or whether it will output 1080p and that my monitor will upscale it.
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[13:01] <Muchoz> I'm thinking 1080p since I read that people who use a console get upscaled 1080p. But PCMR member here.
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[13:04] <thescatman> i duno if the pi would even output to the display, but i ccan confirm 140p is the best thing ever
[13:04] <thescatman> 1440*
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[13:08] <Muchoz> Have you tried it on your display?
[13:09] <thescatman> nope
[13:09] <thescatman> I use a 1080 / different display for the pi
[13:09] <thescatman> I don't think I have an adapter that would do hdmi to dual link dvi anyway
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[13:10] <Muchoz> Unfortunate, the one I'll be buying has 2 HDMI inputs, a Displayport 1.2 in and passthrough and a Mini DisplayPort 1.2 in.
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[13:11] <thescatman> ah - only single input dual dvi 1440p monitors can be overclocked
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[13:13] <cehteh> question of the day: is there some protocoll to controll monitor attributes over hdmi (brightness,contrast,... ) like ddc did for vga?
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[13:13] <shiftplusone> hm? were you the guy on the forum making a fuss about that earlier?
[13:14] <shiftplusone> ah, nope, nvrm http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=100410
[13:14] <cehteh> no i am not on the forum
[13:16] <cehteh> well the answers there are a bit unfriendly, because such things worked on good old VGA with DDC
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[13:17] <cehteh> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#CEC
[13:17] <cehteh> looks like there is such a thing at least
[13:18] <pksato> I never see VGA monitor with brightness controll from computer.
[13:18] <shiftplusone> and there is libcec... Don't know if that will support the brightness stuff
[13:18] <shiftplusone> And the answers are unfriendly because the guy asks the question in a very loaded way.
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[13:18] <cehteh> yes it was there but poorly implemented and used
[13:19] <cehteh> but with a digital link i always wondered why there is no standardized and easy to use way to get the monitor state back to the computer
[13:20] <cehteh> here in my case its a bit unrelated to the rpi i just want to change brightness of the laptop screen and external screen in sync
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[13:21] <cehteh> iirc with DDC it was also possible (in theory at least) to wake a suspended computer when the monitor gets switched on by the user
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[13:45] <PigFlu> my +5v pin on the raspberry pi 2 is only showing 4.61 V.. what is the threshold for the pwr led to turn off?
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[13:47] <ShorTie> pi likes 5.0vdc +/-0.2vdc
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[13:53] <RaTTuS|BIG> 5% so 4.75V to 5.25V
[13:53] <ShorTie> The red power LED is wired to an APX803 supervisor[2] which kicks in when the 5V power supply drops below 4.63V[3]. If it does, the LED will blink. Check your connections, cable, and power supply.
[13:53] <ShorTie> so 4.63vdc i guess
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[13:54] <ShorTie> from http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#Red_power_LED_is_blinking
[13:54] <RaTTuS|BIG> I had a model 1 running off 3.6V - USB stuff didnt work
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[13:55] <ShorTie> just needed a voltage pump to get back up to 5v for it
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[15:24] <cyanide> are there any good gui resources for creating touchscreen apps?
[15:25] <cyanide> i find qt and the like to be quite inadequate
[15:25] <Tenkawa> cyanide: really good question
[15:26] <Tenkawa> I havent thought about that much lately but yeah that could be very "preference"
[15:27] <Tenkawa> I'm personally just enjoying setting up my rpi2's
[15:28] <cyanide> quite a lot of it is just horrible
[15:28] <cyanide> touchscreen shouldn't just mean bigger buttons and textboxes
[15:29] <BurtyB> a web browser? ;)
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[15:31] <Tenkawa> uggh is it ever going to warm up
[15:31] <cyanide> BurtyB, asking me?
[15:31] <cyanide> no
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[15:34] <BurtyB> cyanide, awe it works for me heh
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[15:40] <Tenkawa> these new rpi's are nice
[15:40] <ozzzy> yep... they're pretty good
[15:40] <Tenkawa> ozzzy: I am very impressed so far
[15:41] <ozzzy> and I'm impressed by this cheap case from China Inc.
[15:41] <Tenkawa> getting my cases today hopefully
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[15:42] <ozzzy> http://ozzzy.dyndns.org/images/new_pi_case1.jpg
[15:42] <Tenkawa> I'm just trying to figure out now what to do with all of my model b's and beaglebone blacks
[15:42] <Tenkawa> I think at least one is going to be sorta a san
[15:42] <ozzzy> make a mobile
[15:42] <Tenkawa> ozzzy: yeah thinking about that
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[15:43] <Tenkawa> This is just a great time to be back in computer building
[15:43] <Tenkawa> Its been too long
[15:44] <Tenkawa> I even use an arm notebook to do my development
[15:44] <Tenkawa> hehehh
[15:45] <ozzzy> I'm just waiting for Win10 to put on this Pi
[15:46] <Tenkawa> e
[15:46] <Tenkawa> yep
[15:46] <Tenkawa> same here
[15:47] <Tenkawa> tech preview runs great on my tablet/notebook
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[15:53] <Tenkawa> yay.. compile done
[15:53] <ozzzy> I haven't looked at it, but my biz partner is using it
[15:53] <Tenkawa> ahh
[15:53] <Tenkawa> I think they are going in the right direction
[15:53] <Tenkawa> its still a bit busy
[15:53] <Tenkawa> however much more tuneable in my opinion than 8.x
[15:55] <Tenkawa> so far one of the biggest things I like about this new rpi is the switch to the newer arm revisi
[15:55] <Tenkawa> n
[15:55] <Tenkawa> opens up a lot of possibilities
[15:56] <seitensei> I like the addition of more cores and memory
[15:56] <Tenkawa> well that too
[15:56] <Tenkawa> heheeh
[15:57] <seitensei> Especially since it opens up more possibility to teach on concurrency
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[15:58] <Tenkawa> indeed
[15:59] <seitensei> All the more since there's been some movement away from a traditional computer science education- bootcamps instead of a university degree, for example
[15:59] <Tenkawa> oh
[15:59] <Tenkawa> intriguing
[16:00] <seitensei> If you're starting kids off early, then you can address more topics later on- some of which don't usually pop up until later on in a computer science curriculum in university
[16:00] <Tenkawa> I've been out of school a little while *laugh*
[16:01] <seitensei> Which is important, if you want to increase the number of compenent programmers to fill the massive job market that'll be popping up
[16:01] <seitensei> Especially in back end web development- where you're going to have a healthy amount of concurrency
[16:02] <Tenkawa> what about infrastructure? think it will make a big push again?
[16:02] <Tenkawa> would seem it would be needed to support all of the frontend/application growth
[16:02] <seitensei> infrastructure?
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[16:03] <seitensei> devops? :x
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[16:04] <McBride36> you guys heard any of the hullabaloo about win10 being subscription based?
[16:05] <seitensei> hullabaloo?
[16:05] <Sonny_Jim> rabble rabble rabble
[16:05] <McBride36> talk
[16:05] <seitensei> Wasn't it confirmed anyhow?
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[16:05] <cyber37> Hi guy's, is there a problem with 2015-02-16 version of raspbian ?
[16:05] <McBride36> last i heard was unconfirmed but a possibility
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[16:05] <cyber37> I download it, extract it, i DD it to a SD card
[16:05] <cyber37> The raspberry doesn't boot
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[16:06] <seitensei> cyber37: Does it give you any readout?
[16:06] <cyber37> I am actualy trying to download again de file
[16:06] <seitensei> walls of text
[16:06] <cyber37> seitensei no boot, no informations on HDMI too, the light stay RED, the same as "without sd cards"
[16:07] <seitensei> cyber37: Can you try with a different card?
[16:07] <seitensei> Maybe using a different image
[16:07] <McBride36> are you copying over the folder and everything in? or just everything in the folder
[16:08] <seitensei> McBride36: He's dd'ing it
[16:08] <seitensei> [10:05:54] <cyber37> I download it, extract it, i DD it to a SD card
[16:08] <McBride36> oh
[16:08] <cyber37> i am dding the .img
[16:09] <cyber37> But
[16:09] <cyber37> That i see is gparted doesn't see the partition he see "unknown" partition type.
[16:09] <cyber37> So maybe there is a problem with the .img,
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[16:10] <cyber37> I think when i DD all of the img file, i copy every bytes, so "partitions parts" too . And maybe there is a problem around "partition part" in the file
[16:10] <cyber37> i have try 2 times, i try to re download the zip.
[16:11] <McBride36> why not just use noobs?
[16:11] <cyber37> noobs is debian based ? i have never try noobs
[16:11] <seitensei> cyber37: Can you post the dd args you're using?
[16:11] <cyber37> I already used rapbian
[16:11] <cyber37> sudo dd if=./2015-02-16-raspbian-wheezy.img of=/dev/sdb1
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[16:12] <seitensei> cyber37: Can you try doing it with a block size?
[16:13] <seitensei> also, instead of /dev/sdb1, you'll want /dev/sdb
[16:13] <Sonny_Jim> Ah that'll be i
[16:13] <Sonny_Jim> *it
[16:13] <seitensei> dd bs=4M if./2015-02-16-raspbian.img of=/dev/sdb
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[16:14] <seitensei> dd bs=4M if=./2015-02-16-raspbian.img of=/dev/sdb
[16:14] <Sonny_Jim> You need to write to the *disk* and not a partition on the disk
[16:14] <Sonny_Jim> sdb being the disk, sdb1 being a partition on the disk
[16:14] <cyber37> first i need to format the sd card, because actualy it's not reconised.
[16:14] <Sonny_Jim> Shouldn't need to with dd, unless you are using Windows iirc
[16:14] <seitensei> cyber37: shouldn't matter, actually, since it should show up in /dev even if you can't mount
[16:15] <day> the images @raspberrypi.org/download are usuable for all raspberrys?
[16:15] <seitensei> day: nope
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[16:15] <day> so what are they for then?
[16:15] <day> they dont state it
[16:15] <seitensei> day: click 'More Info+'
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[16:15] <Tenkawa> wow this new rpi2 is fun
[16:16] <day> just did :X
[16:16] <seitensei> There should be a label that says 'Pi Version supported'
[16:16] <day> yy T_T i never asked. you never saw me :x
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[16:16] <seitensei> Good blackmail
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[16:16] <Tenkawa> haahaaa
[16:17] <IT_Sean> I saw it.
[16:17] <cyber37> I try sudo dd bs=4M if=./2015-02-16-raspbian-wheezy.img of=/dev/sdb
[16:17] <Tenkawa> brb
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[16:17] <cyber37> I will come back maybe around 1545 seconds (last time it take that time) so around 20 mins maybe
[16:18] <notday> there is no minimal debian? :/
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[16:20] <Tenkawa> ok thats better
[16:23] <Tenkawa> now to see if theres enough power to run my dvd
[16:25] <thetora> so, how do i use win32imager or whatever it's called to make an image from a microSD?
[16:25] <thetora> what the crap is an answer file, anyway?
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[16:25] <ShorTie> hit the read button instead of write
[16:26] <Sonny_Jim> ^ ninja'd
[16:26] <GentileBen> sup ShorTie
[16:27] <ShorTie> not the temp, or not enough
[16:27] <ShorTie> was like 2F out there
[16:27] <thetora> what read button? wat?
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[16:28] <thetora> nvm...
[16:28] <thetora> thanks\
[16:28] <thetora> i feel dumb now
[16:28] <thetora> but also, thanks
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[16:28] <ShorTie> ah, i feel like that all time, so no worries
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[16:29] <thetora> win32 disk imager doesnt let me read though
[16:29] <day> the joys of dd :)
[16:29] <thetora> do i need to make an image file?
[16:29] <McBride36> need? no
[16:29] <McBride36> but it's sure nice when you mess things up beyond repair
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[16:30] <thetora> no i mean, need to make one first
[16:30] <thetora> i NEED an image file
[16:30] <thetora> because i want to keep all the same settings
[16:30] <McBride36> you make an image of your SD.
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[16:31] <McBride36> http://lifehacker.com/how-to-clone-your-raspberry-pi-sd-card-for-super-easy-r-1261113524
[16:31] <ShorTie> keep all the same settings, that is what good notes are for
[16:31] <Tenkawa> darn.. dvd draws too much
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[16:31] <Sonny_Jim> Yeah back up /home and /etc, keep a list of what packages you've installed
[16:31] <McBride36> ShorTie, you mean you do all your messing aroud sober and can remember what you do?
[16:32] <Sonny_Jim> Means you can upgrade to the latest distro with the same settings
[16:32] <Tenkawa> all I get is overcurrent messages in dmesg
[16:32] <Sonny_Jim> There's a switch for apt-gt that will list what packages are installed iirc
[16:32] <ShorTie> no, i mean i c/p all the stuff into notepad and save it
[16:32] <McBride36> oh
[16:32] <thetora> aha! see! this tutorial it seems he already has an image file
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[16:32] <McBride36> no he doesn't
[16:33] <ShorTie> then there is always bash.history too...
[16:33] <McBride36> the image file is the path to where you'll save it
[16:33] <Tenkawa> cheers all.. bl
[16:33] <Tenkawa> er bbl
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[16:34] <Sonny_Jim> ShorTie: If you backup /home you'll get your bash.history as well
[16:34] <thetora> yay! i did it (maybe)
[16:37] <ShorTie> but i normally live on the wild side as root .. :/~
[16:37] <Sonny_Jim> Naughty naughty, very naughty
[16:38] <ShorTie> ya, ya, i know
[16:38] <ShorTie> but i don't like a pc telling me i can do sumfin
[16:38] <ShorTie> and that s thing is 5 extra pokes
[16:39] <McBride36> alias it
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[16:42] <Sonny_Jim> ha
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[16:48] <cyber37> ok it's working well now
[16:48] <cyber37> thanks
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[16:51] <ShorTie> hehe, maybe killall -9 triggerhappy might work, lol.
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[16:56] <day> lol the standard rasbian image exands to 3.3GB :D
[16:56] <day> my desktop OS needs less than that
[16:57] <ShorTie> so shrink it .. :)~
[16:57] <McBride36> if you rm -rf everything, it'll take less space
[16:57] <day> shrinking is much harder than adding
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[16:57] <ShorTie> na, https://www.dropbox.com/s/c0t13u5awa60kwy/Image_Shrinker.tar.bz2?dl=0
[16:58] <Sonny_Jim> There's free space on the image
[16:58] <day> ah ok
[16:58] <Sonny_Jim> Think about it
[16:58] <Sonny_Jim> Boot the 3.3GB image and type "df -h" to see how much is actually used
[16:59] <ShorTie> there has to be free space or it will not boot
[16:59] <ShorTie> and a desktop needs more then cli
[16:59] <MY123> I successed to connect Wine on RPi2 with the Visual Studio debugger
[16:59] <ShorTie> but image_shinker does all that for ya
[16:59] <MY123> (for Windows RT)
[17:00] <Sonny_Jim> Also there's other things in there apart from just the OS, tools to compile etc
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[17:05] <thescatman> Is it possible to get into the command line while inside an emulator?
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[17:06] <thescatman> I'm trying to find the core temps, as I think it's throttling (cpu is very hot and framerate dies)
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[17:07] <theugster> thescatman: SSH to it from another box?
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[17:08] <ambro718> Hey, how do I connect a stable 5V supply to Rpi2? I can't find a pinout even.
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[17:09] <RaTTuS|BIG> use the micro usb socket
[17:09] <IT_Sean> ambro718: via the micro-USB port. That's the power gazinta.
[17:10] <ShorTie> can't boot a rpi2 powered thru gpio pin
[17:10] <ambro718> For the Pi1 it worked fine by putting it on the right pins
[17:10] <MY123> ShorTie: It works here
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[17:11] <MY123> (with powering both the 5V and 3V3 lines)
[17:12] <ShorTie> ok, just going but was said by other
[17:12] <ambro718> would it be possible to connect an external USB disk that is powered via USB?
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[17:14] <thescatman> theugster, good idea, i've not set up ssh for it though :/
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[17:14] <ambro718> it would be nice if the power pins of the USB were exposed, so one would not need to destroy a USB cable
[17:15] <pksato> buy a spare micro usb connector. :)
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[17:16] <day> isnt the voltage connected to one of the pins?
[17:16] <IT_Sean> or, just buy a microUSB cable, like a normal person.
[17:16] <day> voltage rail*
[17:16] <thescatman> lol
[17:16] <SpeedEvil> USB cables are so expensive.
[17:16] <pksato> http://www.ebay.com/itm/50PCS-Micro-USB-5-Pin-T-Port-Male-Plug-Socket-Connector-Plastic-Cover-DIY-/261782292804?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cf370c944
[17:16] <day> its not about price. its about perfection
[17:17] <day> pin 1 3V3; pin 2 5V; pin 6 GND
[17:17] <day> what happens if you power the board via those pins?
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[17:17] <McBride36> monoprice
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[17:22] <WACOMalt> Anyone know how to completely remove lxde from raspbian and replace it with i3?
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[17:23] <WACOMalt> I tried sudo apt-get remove openbox
[17:23] <WACOMalt> and lxde
[17:23] <WACOMalt> after that lxde still starts on boot
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[17:26] <CoJaBo> pksato: ..why does it specify it's "very funny" in the description lol
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[17:32] <Sonny_Jim> WACOMalt: Because you need to reconfigure to start a different window mananger
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[17:33] <Sonny_Jim> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=19042
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[17:35] <zleap> popey: are you able to help in #oggcamp please i think they need to change the topic so it reads oggcamp 15
[17:35] <zleap> popey: thanks
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[17:43] <WACOMalt> where exactly does raspbian read the commands to launch lxde on desktop startup?
[17:44] <WACOMalt> like... what do I replace to make it not boot lxde no matter what?
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[17:44] <teknic111> hello
[17:45] <day> ups
[17:45] <WACOMalt> hi
[17:45] <day> dont do apt-get remove X11* lxde Xorg*
[17:45] <Sonny_Jim> WACOMalt: Did you not read the link I posted?
[17:45] <WACOMalt> oh sorry howd'd I miss that?
[17:45] <teknic111> anyone know how to change screen orientation in Raspbian?
[17:45] <WACOMalt> T_T
[17:46] <Sonny_Jim> TL/DR
[17:46] <Sonny_Jim> sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager
[17:46] <WACOMalt> righto
[17:46] <WACOMalt> thanks!
[17:47] <WACOMalt> do you know if i3 is both a session manager AND a window manager?
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[17:49] <WACOMalt> hmm... the only option I have for session manager is startlxde, lxsession, and startlxde again
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[17:57] <pandather> What media player do you use for video playback on your Pis? I'm thinking MPV, but how does it compare to Mplayer2 and other alternatives?
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[17:57] <qubitnerd> hi pandather :)
[17:57] <qubitnerd> :P
[17:57] <WACOMalt> dangit.. I cannot get i3 to start
[17:57] <WACOMalt> without lxde
[17:58] <WACOMalt> they're kinda mashed together right now and nothing works
[17:58] <pandather> oh hey qubitnerd. :p
[17:58] <qubitnerd> omxplayer is nice
[17:58] <pandather> have you uninstalled lxde and all its dependencies?
[17:59] <pandather> like "pacman -Rs lxde"
[17:59] <WACOMalt> (raspbian) and I tried sudo apt-get remove lxde
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[17:59] <day> my apt get remove ended in no PAM available :P
[18:00] <WACOMalt> and it seems i3 doesnt come with a session manager/desktop manager so Im not sure what I should use for that. or do I need one?
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[18:00] <pandather> oh gotcha, no idea on raspbian, what not try arch if you can't figure it out?
[18:00] <day> WACOMalt: i3 runs perfectly fine on its own, no need for anything else
[18:00] <WACOMalt> because arch is always a pain for me to get my network working on
[18:00] <pandather> you don't need one, i3 is a window manager
[18:00] <WACOMalt> day, so... just uninstall lxde and be good?
[18:00] <WACOMalt> I cant even figure that part out
[18:00] <pandather> gotcha, I have the same issue sometimes
[18:01] <day> you need to link i3 so it starts when you type in startx i think
[18:01] <pandather> OMXplayer, I'll look into that
[18:01] <WACOMalt> day, any idea how to do that?
[18:01] <WACOMalt> is that in the Xinitrc files or whatever?
[18:01] <day> checking
[18:01] <day> yeah
[18:01] <pandather> or install SLiM or something
[18:01] <WACOMalt> thanks btw
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[18:01] <pandather> ~/.xinitrc
[18:01] <pandather> is the file
[18:01] <day> exec i3
[18:02] <day> put that in there
[18:02] <WACOMalt> that file is nonexistent fo rme
[18:02] <WACOMalt> should I make it?
[18:02] <day> :/ i can only speak for my arch desktop
[18:02] <pandather> oh omxplayer seems like just what I'm looking for, I thought it was some media center like kodi/xmbc
[18:03] <pandather> WACOMalt
[18:03] <WACOMalt> hi
[18:03] <pandather> type "ls -a /etc/skel"
[18:03] <pandather> I think
[18:03] <day> y
[18:03] <day> u should be able to copy it to your user home folder
[18:03] <pandather> I think the example .xinitrc is in there
[18:04] <pandather> yeah it is
[18:04] <pandather> "cp /etc/skel/.xinitrc ~"
[18:04] <WACOMalt> nope, no example file
[18:04] <pandather> is xorg-xinit installed?
[18:05] <WACOMalt> I have a .profile .bashrc .bash_logout pistore.desktop
[18:05] <WACOMalt> maybe...
[18:05] <pandather> I guess apt-get install xorg-xinit
[18:05] <day> http://dpaste.com/2GM7WSD
[18:05] <day> there u have one
[18:05] <pandather> but did you check if the example file was in /etc/skel
[18:05] <WACOMalt> unable to locate package xorg-xinit
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[18:05] <WACOMalt> its not in there pandather
[18:06] <pandather> hmm, never messed with Raspbian, does startx work normally?
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[18:06] <day> btw. why are the raspberry holes to small for standard mainboard screws? Did they accidently make them to small? :D
[18:06] <WACOMalt> I'll check. one moment
[18:07] <WACOMalt> I think that's what it does normally when you choose boot to desktop
[18:07] <WACOMalt> it does startx
[18:07] <WACOMalt> I think...
[18:07] <englishman> anyone know a good place to get rpi2 in canada? not newark
[18:07] <Lihis> SLiM is no longer maintained so maybe consider something else DM?
[18:07] <WACOMalt> do I even have to use a DM?
[18:07] <WACOMalt> i3 by itself is fine
[18:07] <pandather> okay, so yeah copy the textfile day linked to ~
[18:07] <pandather> no DM is needed
[18:07] <WACOMalt> cool
[18:08] <day> i just do a console login then type startx on my desktop. you really dont need one
[18:08] <pandather> you can set it to automatically do startx
[18:08] <zleap> or you can put startx in.bashrc so x starts after console login
[18:08] <WACOMalt> can I make it automatically sign in and startx without a DM?
[18:08] <zleap> but just type startx manually
[18:09] <zleap> you can startx without a display environment yeah, i think things like sharing the desktop to remote computers uses that
[18:09] <WACOMalt> oh hey it all worked
[18:09] <WACOMalt> just removing all lxde packages after installing i3 made it boot i3 fine, logged in
[18:09] <pandather> cool
[18:09] <pandather> :)
[18:09] <WACOMalt> so I guess... thanks lol!
[18:10] <WACOMalt> didnt have to do any of that
[18:10] <pandather> haha
[18:11] <day> and always remember the following commands in the terminal ^w ^e ^a ^u :3
[18:11] <WACOMalt> what do those do?
[18:11] <pandather> holy balls, archlinuxarm.org is blocked at my school for mature content
[18:11] <day> WACOMalt: type a sentence and try them
[18:11] <day> cursor positioning, deleting etc..
[18:12] <pandather> do you guys just use MPD for music? The Pi2 should easily decode music via software, right
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[18:13] <teclo-> isn't there some way to tell the Raspberry Pi to reboot without plugging a keyboard in it and without using the network interface ?
[18:13] <WACOMalt> day, cool
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[18:13] <WACOMalt> cant use them right now though. installing software
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[18:14] <day> thy work pretty muc h everywhere in the cli. nano, lynx, terminal emulators etc...
[18:14] <WACOMalt> fantastic
[18:14] <pandather> oh also, how do turn on the pi after "shutdown 0"?
[18:14] <pandather> just unplug and replug is what I've been doing
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[18:15] <clever> pandather: connect a button to the reset header
[18:15] <clever> its a 2 pin hole between power and HDMI on a rev2b
[18:16] <pandather> oh cool, will do, and will that signal a shutdown signal if I press it while on?
[18:16] <clever> nope, hard reset it
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[18:17] <clever> nearly the same as yanking the power cord
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[18:17] <pandather> damn, that's too bad
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[18:17] <clever> i have seen other mods, let me find the link
[18:17] <pandather> I'll just deal with the power cord then
[18:17] <clever> one sec
[18:18] <clever> pandather: http://spritesmods.com/?art=rpi_arcade&page=5
[18:18] <clever> when you run a shutdown, an extra script will flip a GPIO pin, which cuts the power from the battery
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[18:18] <clever> and that external circuit will then handle re-connecting power at on time
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[18:18] <clever> and if you push the button while its on, its just a normal GPIO, a script starts a normal shutdown
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[18:19] <clever> and as an extra feature, if you hold the power button for 5 sec, it hard cuts power, just like a normal pc
[18:19] <clever> thats actualy what the pi does to turn itself off
[18:19] <pandather> that's pretty badass
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[18:20] <clever> it switches the button from input to output, so the pi can hold its own power button
[18:20] <pandather> and the pi should run just fine from an external power bank for phones and stuff, right?
[18:21] <clever> ?
[18:21] <day> mine does righ now
[18:21] <day> just make sure it has 5V and enough current rating
[18:21] <clever> oh yeah, cellphone charges, those work fine as long as it can supply the current
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[18:21] <clever> you could even use car cellphone charges if you want to run it from 12v
[18:22] <pandather> Awesome, I don't think I'll mess with a power button, at least until I wanna go headless
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[18:22] <clever> you can make seperate on and off buttons if you just use the gpio util
[18:22] <pandather> clever, cool, and yeah my thing is rated at 5V 2A
[18:22] <clever> i believe gpio can be setup to wait until you hit a button
[18:22] <clever> and it will wait until you push an off button
[18:22] <pandather> I may do that, never messed with the gpio stuff yet
[18:22] <clever> so you could basicaly do gpio --wait some_pin ; shutdown -h now
[18:23] <clever> then you have a seperate reset button, which also powers it on
[18:23] <pandather> and just load that script on boot?
[18:23] <clever> yeah, make sure to run it in the background
[18:23] <pandather> yeah the reset button would just hardpower on and off
[18:23] <clever> one difference between the reset button and yanking the cord
[18:23] <pandather> okay thanks, that seems nice and easy. :)
[18:23] <day> wolfram-engine 448MB
[18:24] <day> seriously?
[18:24] <clever> the power rails wont slowly decay and make it do wonky things as it dies
[18:24] <clever> it will just instantly HALT and go back to the bootloader
[18:24] <clever> less SD card corruption
[18:24] <pandather> oh, and what's the best way to play youtube videos? does OMXplayer support it
[18:24] <teclo-> the pi has a power button ? Great then... but where is it ?
[18:24] <clever> but if you properly shutdown before yanking the cord, there is nothing to mess up
[18:24] <pandather> oh gotcha, then I'll toats do that
[18:25] <clever> pandather: i have heard that some people have piped youtube-dl into omxplayer
[18:25] <pandather> oh yeah I properly shutdown ofc
[18:25] <pandather> and that sounds great
[18:25] <pandather> gtg, school, thanks guys
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[18:25] <clever> teclo-: it has a hard reset button, which brings it back to life after shutdown -h now
[18:25] <clever> anything more is extra software you need to add, that just monitors gpio
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[18:29] <MustBeLucky> does any version on openelec work on the pi2?
[18:30] <RaTTuS|BIG> http://openelec.tv/get-openelec
[18:30] <MustBeLucky> TY
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[18:42] <Payo> damn ntfs performance is pretty sick on the pi 2 compared to the old pi
[18:42] <Payo> :)
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[18:51] <teclo-> clever: thank you but... where is the hard reset button... well my hard reset button is to plugoff and plugon the microusb connector
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[18:57] <MustBeLucky> Pi 2is arm 11 or 7?
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[18:58] <Payo> 7
[18:58] <MustBeLucky> TY
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[19:11] <WACOMalt> Ok lets see how long it takes to compile FFMpeg on Pi2
[19:11] <WACOMalt> it took 3.5 hours on my B+
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[19:13] <zleap> ouch
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[19:21] <wiiguy> does anyone know the command to see the temp of a rpi2 ?
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[19:22] <piney0> wiiguy, I think it's vcgencmd measure_temp, if not, it should be enough to google
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[19:24] <wiiguy> ah that works :)
[19:24] <wiiguy> i was trying that on a other os before
[19:24] <wiiguy> that did not work back the :p
[19:24] <wiiguy> it does not though :p
[19:24] <clever> teclo-: between the usb input and the hdmi is a 2 pin header hole
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[19:26] <piney0> My pi 2 shipped yesterday. I'm getting a little excited.
[19:27] <thescatman> piney0, it's so good
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[19:27] <WACOMalt> is 48 degrees Celcius good or hot?
[19:27] <thescatman> it's good
[19:27] <WACOMalt> cool
[19:28] <piney0> yea, I waited about 4 months for my first one. Not complaining since I ordered this one on the 6'th of this month.
[19:28] <WACOMalt> wow, 4 months?
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[19:28] <WACOMalt> I just drove to a local warehouse and picked one up :X
[19:28] <WACOMalt> I'm lucky enough to live near MCM electronics warehouse and showroom
[19:29] <piney0> back then, they weren't expecting to sell as much as they did. That and a few holdups on fcc compliance and other stuff slowed it down.
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[19:30] <WACOMalt> ah, you bought back then. makes sense
[19:30] <WACOMalt> I got in late and it was all already ramped up
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[19:32] <piney0> yes. This one will be my third.
[19:32] <WACOMalt> this is my 3rd too, but only because I accidentally friend my first B+ messing with GPIO
[19:32] <WACOMalt> *fried
[19:33] <piney0> I can relate, I fried my first one doing something stupid.
[19:33] <piney0> only the uart pins tho. still works
[19:33] <WACOMalt> ah
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[19:34] <clever> due to the alt functions, you can maybe remap the uart to another pin
[19:34] <thescatman> have you guys used retropie?
[19:34] <WACOMalt> I havent personally no
[19:34] <wiiguy> the gaming os ?
[19:34] <clever> but you may wind up putting the uart somewhere really weird
[19:34] <piney0> clever, interesting thought
[19:34] <thescatman> the controller works differently for the n64 emulator than it does in other ones
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[19:34] <thescatman> which is annoying because i set it once for all the emulators so i don't think i can edit it for a specific one
[19:35] <piney0> no need really with having a few. I just avoid projects that use those pins on that board. It's a 256meg B also, so not the first one i go to
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[19:36] <clever> piney0: http://elinux.org/RPi_BCM2835_GPIOs
[19:36] <clever> piney0: dang, tx can only be moved to gpio32 and gpio36, neither is routed out to a pin
[19:37] <clever> same for rx
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[19:37] <piney0> i wonder what the crossed off ones mean
[19:38] <piney0> ahh rev b 2
[19:38] <WACOMalt> I can already tell this FFMpeg compile is going way faster than on my B+
[19:39] <wiiguy> whya ya compiling FFMpeg ?
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[19:40] <thescatman> I've found compiling took about 1/8 of the time on my pi 2
[19:41] <piney0> im wondering how much it will speed up sql queries. That's the first thing i will test.
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[19:48] <thescatman> any idea why A is mapped as B on the N64 emulator..?
[19:48] <thescatman> it's really annoying
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[19:50] <WACOMalt> what controller are you using?
[19:50] <WACOMalt> N64 USB adapter?
[19:51] <WACOMalt> if not it may simply be remapped to make the layout match N64 placement even if the button letters dont match
[19:51] <WACOMalt> not sure...
[19:51] <WACOMalt> brb
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[19:52] <thescatman> WACOMalt, o sry, was playing wipeout on it
[19:52] <thescatman> I'm using an xbox 360 controller
[19:53] <thescatman> ah you're right
[19:53] <l_r> is retropie funny ?
[19:53] <l_r> what games are there
[19:54] <thescatman> they're in kinda a different position to the xbox one. wonder if I can customise controls per emu
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[19:55] <thescatman> l_r, it's great, you just have to get the ROMs for the games
[19:55] <l_r> thescatman, from where?
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[19:57] <l_r> thescatman, would it be possible to play a game on the network ?
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[19:58] <ambro718> weird, the USB cable that I put apart has the + wire colored black and the - wire colored red
[19:58] <thescatman> o.O
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[20:00] <thescatman> ugh I just need a little more performance eked out of n64 games
[20:01] <l_r> thescatman, use a rpi2
[20:02] <l_r> thescatman, but is it possible to play games on internet for example vs a friend running the same game???
[20:02] <thescatman> I am using a pi 2.
[20:02] <thescatman> I don't know, haven't worked any of that out yet
[20:02] <wiiguy> that actually depends, if the emulator supports it
[20:02] <l_r> wiiguy, i see plenty of emulators... mame ,does it support it?
[20:03] <wiiguy> no idea
[20:03] <wiiguy> im just saying the emulator has to support it
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[20:03] <l_r> thescatman, so with the rpi2 you can play better games?
[20:04] <l_r> thescatman, ..with emulators that the old rp1 could not run
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[20:05] <thescatman> hmmm
[20:06] <thescatman> oh, yes l_r
[20:06] <Tenkawa> ozzzy: hey.. you tried running a dvd drive on one of the new rois?
[20:06] <thescatman> Am just trying to get wipeout runing at full speed on the pi 2, i'M JUST CALCULATING IT'S RUN SPEED
[20:06] <thescatman> whoops
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[20:07] <Tenkawa> wondering if it will work ok using a powered usb hub
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[20:07] <thescatman> ah, it's running at exactly 2/3 of full speed...
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[20:08] <thescatman> l_r, mainly you can run playstation 1 games and n64 games now which you can't on the old pi
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[20:12] <WACOMalt> Well, the build of FFMpeg only took 1 hour
[20:12] <WACOMalt> vs 4 previously on the B+
[20:12] <Tenkawa> definitely an improvement
[20:13] <Tenkawa> was it what you were hoping for though?
[20:13] <thescatman> I just calculated to run my N64 games at 100% speed I'm going to need to overclock to 1.35GHz
[20:13] <thescatman> how impossible is that? I've overclocked a lot before, and have a ton of cooling kit
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[20:13] <thescatman> There seems to be a distinct lack of info on overclocking the pi 2 atm
[20:15] <ozzzy> Tenkawa, nope
[20:16] <MustBeLucky> thescatman: please let us know when you figure that out
[20:17] <ozzzy> Tenkawa, just tried... reboot
[20:17] <ozzzy> LOL
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[20:18] * ozzzy wonders why one would even want to overclock a Pi
[20:19] <WACOMalt> Tenkawa, not hoping for anything but a shorter build
[20:19] <WACOMalt> which I got and now I am happy :)
[20:19] <jthomas__> anyone know if Linux desktops work for transparencies on the Pi, either the original or the new Pi 2? I want to overlap some GUI windows and I'd like to know before I install an OS etc to test
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[20:20] <teclo-> to kill it ?
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[20:21] <teclo-> to me overclocking is never a good idea
[20:23] <Payo> thescatman from what I've read (people who had test boards etc) 1.35 is not going to happen
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[20:25] <ali1234> jthomas__: what do you mean exactly? alpha blending?
[20:25] <thescatman> MustBeLucky, figure out what clock I can get?
[20:25] <Tenkawa> ahh
[20:25] <thescatman> Payo, that sucks then. Have been talking to someone on another irc- they say it'll probably fry the pi at 1.35GHz
[20:25] <Tenkawa> shorter builds are nice
[20:25] <thescatman> as arm11's not rated for that.
[20:26] <jthomas__> ali1234 eek, maybe? generally, desktop effects require a decent GPU and driver, and I want to fade (make transparent) a window and contents
[20:26] <ali1234> jthomas__: possible, but not with normal X
[20:27] <jthomas__> ok thanks mcuh
[20:27] <ali1234> it has a good GPU, X just doesn't use it fully
[20:27] <jthomas__> saved me a lot of time
[20:27] <ali1234> at least not yet anyway
[20:28] <thescatman> Stuff it, time to put on some massive heatsinks and see how much it can take
[20:28] <ali1234> thescatman: i don't think heat is the limiting factor for overclocking, i think it's how much you can overvolt it
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[20:29] <ali1234> i've heard people say 1.2 is the most they can get
[20:29] <IT_Sean> thescatman: A) A heatsink won't do much, and B) You arent gonna get 1.35 GHz.
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[20:29] <thescatman> I know. Am going to probably stick to 1.1 for now
[20:30] <thescatman> SSH'd into the pi to see temps I was getting when running turok on n64, was at 75 on stock speeds
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[20:31] <thescatman> maybe 1.15/1.2
[20:31] <thescatman> hey what have i got to lose
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[20:32] <jthomas__> working hardware
[20:33] <thescatman> £30
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[20:45] <thescatman> the original pi got to 5GHz :/
[20:46] <thescatman> *kinda
[20:49] <tchiwam> Funny thing is, Between 900 and 1Ghz I didn't find any worth the trouble improvements in any benchmarks, sometimes a bit slower.
[20:49] <thescatman> on the pi 2?
[20:49] <thescatman> that's weird O.o
[20:49] <tchiwam> I meant on the Pi 1
[20:50] <thescatman> i was just about to work out if the 100MHz overclock on the pi 2 actually increases performance by 10%
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[20:50] <tchiwam> I made a loop of 1 mul add, then added mul adds * k2 +k1 ... until I could fill the inner cache to find out the max ops / fetch I could get...
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[20:54] <thescatman> well in game it seems to perform actually a good amount smoother
[20:55] <thescatman> and irl 1 minute is 1 minute 12 now instead of 1.25
[20:55] <thescatman> (in game time)
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[20:59] <Tenkawa> the game?
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[21:01] <Encrypt> Tenkawa, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_%28mind_game%29
[21:01] <Tenkawa> ahhhh
[21:02] <PovAddict> damn, now I lost the game too
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[21:06] <Encrypt> :þ
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[21:09] <teclo-> clever: ok I've got the Raspberry Pi and I'm looking for the "reset switch" you were talking about... how is it labeled on the board ?
[21:09] <thescatman> you have to add a reset switch, no?
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[21:16] <IT_Sean> there is no reset switch. There is a reset /header/ though, to which you can ADD a switch.
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[21:20] <thescatman> just wondering, what's the point of a reset switch?
[21:21] <thescatman> is it not the same as pulling the power? I have a reset switch I could add but don't have the pins to solder on the board
[21:22] <ali1234> it's not quite the same as pullling power
[21:22] <ali1234> you can have some external logic assert reset
[21:22] <thescatman> sorry, what does that mean?
[21:22] <ali1234> doing that on the power line would require a power transistor that can handle the current
[21:23] <thescatman> oh i meant pulling out the power cable while it's on
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[21:24] <ali1234> reset line will keep peripherals powered too
[21:24] <ali1234> means less chance of sd card corruption for one thing
[21:24] <thescatman> oh great
[21:24] <ali1234> theoreticaly at least
[21:24] <thescatman> that's what i was hoping you'd say... I need to do that then
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[21:28] <teclo-> I see L1 and L2 just near the HDMI conenctor... is that the reset "feature" ?
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[21:31] <thescatman> teclo-, I think it's those two holes next to the power LEDs, that says RUN under it
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[21:35] <WACOMalt> http://pastie.org/9966968 Can anyone explain to me why the result of the last lines in my config is NOT libreoffice on workspace 1, pcmanfm and audacious on workspace 2, and terminal screen on 3?
[21:35] <WACOMalt> (using i3 window manager)
[21:37] <ambro718> I'm having problems attaching a USB powered disk to Rpi2, even one that claims needs only 0.45A. Though it worked on Rpi1 if attached at boot.
[21:37] <ambro718> Is it reasonable to expect an SSD would work (says power usage is 0.31A).
[21:37] <thescatman> why use an ssd?
[21:37] <WACOMalt> I would assume so. but Id go ahead and get a powered hub anyways
[21:37] <WACOMalt> better choice
[21:38] <ambro718> too much cables :)
[21:39] <ambro718> Is someone here successfully running an SSD powered over USB on Rpi2?
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[21:40] <thescatman> I'd do it if I had a spare ssd out, but don't right now :/
[21:40] <thescatman> why not get a cheap memory stick
[21:40] <ambro718> they are slow and wear out
[21:40] <ambro718> I need this for compiling.
[21:41] <ambro718> I'll just screw out an SSD from a machine and try it...
[21:41] <WACOMalt> Pi for compiling?
[21:41] <WACOMalt> ...why not just cross compile on something better?
[21:41] <ambro718> cross compiling sucks
[21:41] <ambro718> I'm porting NixOS
[21:41] <WACOMalt> ah, ok
[21:42] <ambro718> I mean, it would be totally great if everything could be cross compiled, but from a practical perspective it's insanity :)
[21:44] <WACOMalt> I hear ya. I figured it was for small compiling jobs, not a full OS :P
[21:44] <Tenkawa> with the right machine crosscompiling works great
[21:46] <WACOMalt> I'm about to give up on i3. it seems great but no one in their chat can help me :/
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[21:46] <Tenkawa> i3?
[21:46] <WACOMalt> window manager
[21:46] <teclo-> thescatman: okay I'm looking
[21:46] <WACOMalt> i3wm.org
[21:46] <Tenkawa> ahhh that i3
[21:47] <Tenkawa> my brain instantly went to intel's
[21:47] <WACOMalt> ah, right
[21:47] <WACOMalt> I had to ask when I joined #i3
[21:47] <WACOMalt> since it had no topic or indicator
[21:48] <Tenkawa> heheheh
[21:48] <McBride36> seems like a very helpful community
[21:48] <WACOMalt> oh wait, their main channel isnt on freenode lol
[21:49] <Tenkawa> WACOMalt: oops
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[21:50] <Tenkawa> anyone know usb modeswitching well enough to make ports "just" supply power?
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[21:50] <Tenkawa> so I can load up more amperage to my usb dvd drive
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[21:51] <Tenkawa> I think that will solve my dilemma
[21:51] <ozzzy> Tenkawa, don't connect the data lines
[21:52] <ozzzy> that's what the usb splitters do
[21:52] <Tenkawa> ozzzy: I'd have to modify the connector I think
[21:52] <ozzzy> yep
[21:52] <Tenkawa> fun...
[21:52] <ozzzy> you can buy splitter cables
[21:52] <Tenkawa> however yeah I think its going to be the only way
[21:52] <Tenkawa> oh
[21:52] * Tenkawa looks up microcenter
[21:53] <Tenkawa> whats a good description to search for?
[21:54] <thescatman> ozzzy, do you mean, say, 2 usb ports go to 1 usb powered device
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[21:55] <Tenkawa> thats what my cable is already doing
[21:55] <Tenkawa> its got 2 usb connectors to 1 mini
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[21:55] <ozzzy> yep
[21:56] <ozzzy> one came with my monitor
[21:56] <Tenkawa> it starts up... then drops
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[21:56] <ozzzy> http://goo.gl/JeroRf
[21:57] <Tenkawa> thats the last hardware component I need to finish on my rpi2
[21:57] <Tenkawa> then I'll be set
[21:57] <thescatman> if I were to make one would that work?
[21:58] <thescatman> out of a usb cable, and a usb cable that I attach to the power lines
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[21:59] <Tenkawa> ozzzy: gives me some ideas though so thanks.
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[22:01] <Tenkawa> mind you if I could find a sata-usb converter that would actually work with one of my sata laptop drives now that would be even better
[22:02] <Tenkawa> laptop dvd drives that is
[22:02] <ppq> why not buy an external drive right away, might be cheaper and certainly easier
[22:03] <Tenkawa> ppq: been trying to find oe
[22:03] <Tenkawa> er one
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[22:03] <Tenkawa> oh there we go
[22:03] <Tenkawa> bingo
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[22:03] * ozzzy has one of those
[22:04] <Tenkawa> ppq: thanks for the advice
[22:04] <ppq> there are plenty, starting from 20 bucks
[22:04] <ppq> or so
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[22:04] <Tenkawa> they had been having inventory probs here
[22:04] <Tenkawa> that'll do nicely
[22:05] <Tenkawa> bunch of them now
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[22:05] <Tenkawa> this will be the last component yay
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[22:10] <ozzzy> I might do a kernel recompile so that the Pi will run my usb monitor
[22:10] <Tenkawa> interesting
[22:10] <Tenkawa> I want to do a recompile too just to tune a few things
[22:11] <ozzzy> I don't need to tune anything up.... but they didn't compile in the DisplayLink drivers
[22:11] <Tenkawa> ouch
[22:11] <Tenkawa> not eeven a module eh?
[22:11] <ozzzy> nope
[22:11] <Tenkawa> bummer
[22:12] <ozzzy> and this is such a slick monitor LOL
[22:12] <Tenkawa> hehee
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[22:15] <McBride36> ozzzy, link to the monitor?
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[22:16] <ozzzy> I got mine at staples... AOC e1649fu or something
[22:17] <ozzzy> http://us.aoc.com/monitor_displays/e1649fwu
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[22:22] <l_r> thescatman, where could i find roms for playstation1 and n64?
[22:23] <ambro718> On Rpi2, I see in /proc/meminfo MemTotal: 759644 kB
[22:24] <ambro718> where's the rest of the 1GB?
[22:24] <pksato> GPU?
[22:24] <ambro718> how does one reclaim it?
[22:25] <IT_Sean> you can adjust your memory split, but, you need to have SOME of the memory assigned to the GPU.
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[22:26] <pksato> RPI have xMB of memory chip, not x
[22:27] <pksato> RPI have xMB of memory chip, not xMB to OS and prograns.
[22:28] <ozzzy> ?
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[22:45] <Tenkawa> wow distcc + ccache on 3 of these new quad cores could be "interesting"
[22:46] <Tenkawa> heheh
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[22:53] <SpeedEvil> Extremely SD constrained likely
[22:54] <jamesd_> perhaps the pi 3 will give us gigabit and usb3 direct to the northbridge instead of via usb
[22:55] <IT_Sean> don't hold your breathe
[22:56] <abnormal> jamesd_, just buy a lappy
[22:56] <IT_Sean> that ^
[22:56] * ShorTie exhales
[22:56] <Tenkawa> time to run.. hopefully by monday I'll have everything running..
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[23:00] <Sonny_Jim> Odroid UX3 :-)
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[23:01] <jamesd_> abnormal: i can run my laptop for 5 hours on an external battery that fits in my pocket and doesn't give me a hurnia
[23:02] <WACOMalt> jeeesus... why is the pi SO much worse than a normal PC at handling dirty shutdowns?
[23:02] <abnormal> lol
[23:02] <WACOMalt> I plugged it into a VGA adapter and stuff and the settings werent right to show. So only way to turn off is power down
[23:02] <WACOMalt> aaand corrupted
[23:02] <abnormal> it's called operator error
[23:02] <WACOMalt> its called wtf is everyone else doing to not run into this at least once a day?
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[23:02] <abnormal> lol
[23:02] <WACOMalt> I've had corruptions even on clean shutdowns
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[23:03] <WACOMalt> now I have to start from scratch again
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[23:03] <McBride36> and that's why you make backups!
[23:03] <WACOMalt> is there ANY way to try to repair?
[23:03] <abnormal> I never had one prob with all 5 of my pi's
[23:03] <WACOMalt> never once got corrupted?
[23:03] <abnormal> nope
[23:03] <Giddles> hey folkz, what im doing wrong, py pi2 only shows rgb color sheme
[23:03] <WACOMalt> how do you shut down if you cant see the display and dont have ssh set up yet?
[23:03] <Giddles> :(
[23:03] <McBride36> i've never had a problem with the pi, but yes with the SD's i've bought
[23:03] <Giddles> thats not good
[23:04] <abnormal> unplug and plug back in
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[23:04] <Giddles> i unplugges 10 times
[23:04] <Giddles> :(
[23:04] <WACOMalt> your card is corrupted
[23:04] <WACOMalt> welcome to Pi world
[23:04] <Giddles> its a new card
[23:04] <ali1234> just put it in a computer and run fsck
[23:04] <brennen> WACOMalt: i pretty much just keep a recent image of the card and dd over it every time i have this happen.
[23:04] <WACOMalt> and did you put an OS on it?
[23:04] <brennen> which is once or twice a week.
[23:04] <Giddles> noobz
[23:04] <Giddles> :)
[23:04] <WACOMalt> ok
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[23:05] <WACOMalt> I need to actually install linux at some point I guess
[23:05] <abnormal> in pi?
[23:06] <ali1234> this doesn't happen on PCs because magnetic media can directly overwrite one bit, and SSDs have capacitors in them so that they finish writing the block even if the power goes out
[23:06] <abnormal> but the SD cards don't have caps in them
[23:06] <ali1234> right because they are tiny
[23:07] <brennen> one of these days i need to figure out either some kind of net boot arrangement or keeping the filesystem on an ssd or something.
[23:07] <abnormal> of course
[23:07] <abnormal> why?
[23:07] <WACOMalt> So... Is there any way to store nothing but the bootloader on the SD card?
[23:07] <WACOMalt> and keep the OS on a USB stick or something?
[23:08] <WACOMalt> or would that even help
[23:08] <abnormal> you do the boot on SD card correctly you'd never have to mess with it again.
[23:08] <WACOMalt> teach me
[23:09] <abnormal> yes that has been done.. look in the pi forums there is a topic of that in there
[23:09] <WACOMalt> ok
[23:09] <WACOMalt> brb
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[23:14] <Giddles> there is some orange foil at pi b2 on hmdi
[23:14] <Giddles> is that needful?
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[23:18] <Giddles> hehe 6mb/s is the actual rewirte rate of the mini sd card
[23:18] <WACOMalt> now I remember why I never use linux despite loving it...
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[23:18] <WACOMalt> Tried to switch to my linux drive after months of windows.
[23:18] <WACOMalt> Black screen. no errors
[23:19] <WACOMalt> so freaking easy to break your display drivers
[23:19] <WACOMalt> especially nvidia
[23:19] <WACOMalt> sorry for offtopic... in a ranting mood since I just lost 6 hours of work... again
[23:19] <WACOMalt> I never want to make a backup until I'm done setting it up.. but I keep not making to being done with setup
[23:19] <Peetz0r> Hey! When I boot my raspi using a known working SD card, the green led flashex exactly twice? What does that mean? I cannot find the meaning of 2 flashes in http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#Green_LED_blinks_in_a_specific_pattern
[23:20] <WACOMalt> Peetz0r, known working as in it currently works in another Pi of the same model?
[23:20] <WACOMalt> I get one long and one short and never see any display. turns out my card is corrupted again
[23:20] <Peetz0r> WACOMalt: I only have one Pi here, but the card works in my laptop, and I've just successfully written a brand new image to it
[23:21] <Peetz0r> the exact same image has been used before on the exact same pi
[23:21] <WACOMalt> ok. and did your boot.config change at all?
[23:21] <WACOMalt> er, config.txt I mean
[23:21] <Peetz0r> WACOMalt: nope, just default settings
[23:21] <WACOMalt> but the LED should keep blinking with activity if it's working
[23:21] <WACOMalt> so... Id say your SD is corrupted for no reason
[23:21] <WACOMalt> which seems to happen a ton
[23:21] <Giddles> whey
[23:22] <Giddles> it works
[23:22] <thescatman> uh how would you guys back up my SD before it randomly corrupts like it did before?
[23:22] <Giddles> thanks for the advice ;)
[23:22] <WACOMalt> thescatman, which OS you on?
[23:22] <McBride36> thescatman, make an image
[23:22] <Peetz0r> my previous SD broke, but this one is almost new, and works in my laptop just fine
[23:22] <thescatman> Windows 8 :/
[23:22] <WACOMalt> on windows Win32 DiskImager
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[23:22] <thescatman> ah ok
[23:22] <thescatman> I can do that.
[23:22] <WACOMalt> choose drive, and hit read instead of write
[23:22] <Giddles> wll
[23:22] <WACOMalt> type a filesname to save to
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[23:22] <thescatman> coolcoolcool
[23:22] <Giddles> i ever get 6,6gb with noobd
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[23:23] <Giddles> even formatted in win32diskimager as 7,4gb :(
[23:23] <thescatman> huh?
[23:23] <[Saint]> 'sup dawgs, yo.
[23:23] <[Saint]> word.
[23:23] <[Saint]> etc.
[23:23] <thescatman> an 8GB SD will show as 7.4GB
[23:23] <McBride36> sup [Saint]
[23:23] <Giddles> right
[23:23] <McBride36> how's that server treating you
[23:24] <Giddles> but when i install raspberryian on noobs it stands available: 6600
[23:25] <[Saint]> I've only just powered it up a few minutes ago - its doing a diagnostic self test on its RAM and disks presently, which is going to take...a while.
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[23:25] <[Saint]> I actually ended up picking up another server about 20 minutes ago.
[23:25] <ozzzy> well... the Pi2 is trying to read the dvd.... the drive shows up in dmesg and the file manager
[23:25] <McBride36> >:(
[23:25] <[Saint]> The guy who won that action yesterday never came and picked it up, and I had second bid, so it went to me.
[23:26] <[Saint]> *auction
[23:26] <[Saint]> But this other server is significant;y less fancy.
[23:27] <McBride36> still probably a good deal
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[23:28] <[Saint]> HP Proliant DL 5...something. Still in the car.
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[23:29] <[Saint]> Though, it /could/ be a lot fancier than the one I picked up yesterday, I can't be bothered populating the other three sockets, so its going to stay with "only" a single Xeon hexacore and become my new webserver.
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[23:29] <McBride36> nice. well i'm off work, so i'll be back later
[23:29] <[Saint]> I'm not a fan of all this Intel gar coming into the house.
[23:29] <[Saint]> I've been an AMD man for decades.
[23:30] <[Saint]> o/
[23:30] <McBride36> \o
[23:30] <McBride36> cheaper
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[23:30] <thescatman> not really
[23:30] <thescatman> but let's not get into that actually >_>
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[23:40] <seitensei> [Saint]: lol intel lol amd
[23:40] <seitensei> ARM ftw
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[23:41] <[Saint]> seitensei: yeah...'cos of all the powerful ARM server cores out there in the world....not...lol ;p
[23:42] <[Saint]> "The Year of the ARM Server" is going to happen at the same time as "The Year of the Linux Desktop".
[23:42] <[Saint]> hahahahaha! ;)
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[23:44] <nefarious> lol
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[23:46] * Kane (~Kane@au321-1-78-232-149-217.fbx.proxad.net) Quit (Quit: Night all o/)
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[23:48] * hadifarnoud (~hadifarno@31.59.91.143) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[23:49] * qdk (~qdk@188.120.76.163) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
[23:49] * hadifarn_ (~hadifarno@31.59.91.143) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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[23:50] * gbaman (~gbaman@host81-148-160-23.in-addr.btopenworld.com) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[23:50] * hamrove (~hamrove@96-8-209-215.block0.gvtc.com) Quit (Quit: hamrove)
[23:50] <thescatman> [Saint] YearOfLinux=CurrentYear+3,
[23:50] <thescatman> anyway...
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