#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2015-02-22

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[0:19] <Bilby> nefarious - Pyro but I generally multiclass
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[0:20] <Bilby> ShadowJK true enough i suppose. still a couple of dedicated pins or holes would have been plesant
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[0:20] <ShadowJK> all the misb pins as holes would've been nive
[0:21] <Bilby> true
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[0:28] <nefarious> Ah nice; not often you come across someone who plays tf2, heh
[0:29] <nefarious> "Greatest game never played"
[0:30] <Bilby> hah
[0:30] <Bilby> you mean "Greatest hat simulator"
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[1:03] <OffensiveUser> helo
[1:03] <ShorTie> Good Morning
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[1:04] <OffensiveUser> anyone here knowledgable on small displays
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[1:04] <ShorTie> like what kind, that is kinda vage
[1:05] <OffensiveUser> well https://www.fasttech.com/products/1230/10012142/2062707-4-3-tft-foldable-car-vehicle-mounted-rearview this one to be exact
[1:06] <ShorTie> not that perticular 1, but ya i got a couple tft rearview screens
[1:06] <ShorTie> ws
[1:06] <ShorTie> whats sup ??
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[1:06] <OffensiveUser> i've read of similar displays regulating to 5v somewhere inside
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[1:07] <interest1ng> hey, I am having a peculiar issue
[1:07] <interest1ng> my network is unreliable on the rpi (2)
[1:07] <interest1ng> internet completely stops working after a few hours
[1:07] <interest1ng> but local network works :/
[1:07] <ShorTie> yup, you can hook them up like this https://www.dropbox.com/s/kpe5ek17e7e4fkf/IMAG0003.JPG?dl=0
[1:07] <interest1ng> if i shutdown (and wait) i can usually reconnect to the internet
[1:08] <interest1ng> could anyone tell me where i can start looking to troubleshoot
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[1:08] <ShorTie> wifi ??
[1:09] <interest1ng> ShorTie: i am using a wireless bridged adapter, which works fine with other devices
[1:09] <ShorTie> so wifi
[1:09] <ShorTie> you need a ping script to keep it alive or try wicd-curses
[1:09] <interest1ng> yes, but certainly no driver issues
[1:10] <interest1ng> there are network applications running 24/7 on it
[1:10] <interest1ng> that's how i know internet stops working ;0
[1:11] <ShorTie> give wicd-curses a try
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[1:11] <interest1ng> its a bridge, the raspberry pi is connected via ethernet to it
[1:11] <OffensiveUser> so if I understand your connection is AP > receiving ap > pi
[1:12] <interest1ng> OffensiveUser: yes
[1:12] <interest1ng> it works fine on the old pi and on other devices
[1:12] <OffensiveUser> and you can reach the pi from the first ap if internet gives out?
[1:13] <interest1ng> OffensiveUser: yes, the pi can communicate with the local network. it's just the internet that does not work
[1:13] <OffensiveUser> does restarting the network adapter on the pi do anything
[1:14] <interest1ng> its strange: if i reboot the pi/the bridge, the internet doesnt work
[1:15] <interest1ng> but if i shut down the pi and wait, say an hour, and boot it up again, it works
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[1:16] <interest1ng> what is extremely strange is that when the internet stops working on the pi, if a ping, it says the ping is "from", when my whole network is on a 192.168.2.x subnet, and the pi is
[1:16] <interest1ng> but i can still ssh into it
[1:17] <OffensiveUser> hmm
[1:18] <OffensiveUser> dhcp?
[1:19] <Bilby> It sounds like the bridge may be assigning itself an IP address as well
[1:19] <interest1ng> no, using static, so i can ssh into it
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[1:20] <interest1ng> Bilby: hmm interesting idea
[1:20] <Bilby> the pi is set up with a static IP - any chance it's within the DHCP range of the router and the router is handing the same IP to something else?
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[1:21] <Bilby> what's the model on the bridge?
[1:22] <interest1ng> bridge is a tp-link WR703N
[1:22] <OffensiveUser> have you checked the settings on it
[1:22] <interest1ng> it has been setup for over a year, and never failed me before
[1:22] <Bilby> are you running openwrt on it?
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[1:23] <interest1ng> i havent touched the config of it for so long ;) but i believe it was running ddwrt
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[1:25] <Bilby> I wooooonder if something ended up turning on the dhcp server in it...
[1:25] <OffensiveUser> I'd check everything from wall to pi and back again
[1:25] <OffensiveUser> even if it's running for over a year
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[1:26] <interest1ng> Bibly: however the ip address of the pi doesn't change, i can still ssh into it
[1:26] <Bilby> interest1ng because it's static and just cross-routing on the tp-link
[1:27] <interest1ng> i havent touched the bridge for so long, i forgot its ip :P
[1:27] <Bilby> it would account for the out-of-range ip address, at lesat
[1:27] <interest1ng> i dont even know if i CAN configure it if it is a bridge
[1:27] <Bilby> Plug it directly into a computer and see if DHCP assigns an IP address?
[1:27] <interest1ng> you might be right, there could be a conflict with the ips because of bridge
[1:28] <interest1ng> dhcp will assign an address, because it did before, i just told the pi to use static
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[1:29] <Bilby> take it outside the wifi network or turn wifi network off temporarily and see if plugging a cat5 between the tp link and a computer gives you a 192.168.2.* address ;)
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[1:30] <interest1ng> that's an interesting test
[1:30] <interest1ng> so that will check if the bridge is trying to use dhcp
[1:31] <Bilby> right
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[1:32] <Bilby> if you get a 192.186.2 address you know the tp-link is handing them out like they're going out of style
[1:32] <Bilby> then, get into it and make sure it's set to just do bridgework
[1:32] <interest1ng> alright brb ;)
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[1:33] <OffensiveUser> why not just get in the tp-link and check if the deamon is running
[1:34] <Bilby> because he doesn't know if it's the problem and apparently doesn't have easy access
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[1:37] <OffensiveUser> true
[1:38] <Bilby> Also if he already has a dhcp address he's in the right subnet to connect to the config page or ssh in
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[1:43] <OffensiveUser> should tell him to jot down the ip of the bridge and tape it to the bottom of it for future reference
[1:43] <OffensiveUser> probably needs a username and password too
[1:44] <Bilby> yeah hah
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[1:45] <OffensiveUser> having used ddwrt i know this for certain actually
[1:46] <Bilby> For that kind of thing it's a great solution
[1:46] <Bilby> for more official applications i keep it in a password file ;)
[1:47] <teclo-> OffensiveUser: I got a weird problem with my dd-wrt. My subnet is 10.20.*, but once in a while dd-wrt gives me an address
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[1:48] <interest1ng> alright im back
[1:48] <interest1ng> my computer failed to connect to the bridge (because main AP was down) and there was no ip address assigned (so no DHCP)
[1:48] <OffensiveUser> teclo-, you seem to be having a similar problem as interest1ng
[1:48] <interest1ng> oh, i just connected, what is telco's problem
[1:49] <OffensiveUser> dd wrt assigns an ip thats not in the subnet
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[1:49] <interest1ng> the IP IS in the subnet
[1:49] <Bilby> interest1ng hmm
[1:49] <interest1ng> it stays as
[1:49] <interest1ng> thats why i can ssh into it
[1:49] <interest1ng> however INTERNET is not working. pretty strange issue.
[1:50] <Bilby> yes
[1:50] <interest1ng> and internet works fine, its after a few hours/days it completely stops working
[1:50] <Bilby> that is pretty strange
[1:50] <OffensiveUser> can you get into the main access point? maybe that'll list ips of connected devices
[1:50] <interest1ng> and requires a shutdown, long wait, and boot
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[1:50] <Bilby> no way to swap out or bypass the bridge efor a little bit to test it?
[1:50] <OffensiveUser> then you can trail and error until you hit the bridge
[1:50] <OffensiveUser> check if it's running the dhcp deamon
[1:52] <Bilby> it's pretty strange stuff interest1ng i'll give you that. I had a somewhat similar problem at one client, it ended up being the stupid bloody SBC dsl box though
[1:52] <interest1ng> OffensiveUser: as i noted previously, my computer failed to receive an IP from the bridge alone
[1:53] <OffensiveUser> oh yeah
[1:53] <OffensiveUser> sorry
[1:53] <OffensiveUser> uh
[1:53] <Bilby> sporadic IP issues are insanely frustrating to troubleshooting
[1:55] <Bilby> interest1ng no way to run a cat5 all the way?
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[1:55] <teclo-> well in my case ww-drt gives me an adress which is not in the subnet
[1:55] <OffensiveUser> how do you have yours set up?
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[1:56] <teclo-> one subnet, to
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[1:56] <teclo-> and onece in a while it gives me
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[1:58] * ShorTie thinkz, but you don't get ip address from a bridge
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[1:58] <Bilby> all right lads, i'm off-shift, going to get a drink and have supper
[1:58] <Bilby> ShorTie with dd-wrt you can
[1:59] <Bilby> it's the meth of wireless device hardware
[1:59] <ShorTie> don't think you can/should have 2 dhcp servers on a network
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[2:00] <ShorTie> or you shouldn't
[2:00] <OffensiveUser> you can
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[2:00] <OffensiveUser> but you shouldn't
[2:00] <Bilby> that
[2:00] <Bilby> it causess lots of problems
[2:01] <ShorTie> i hear that
[2:03] <OffensiveUser> hmm
[2:03] <interest1ng> i'm honestly giving up trying to troubleshoot the bridge. i'll inconveniently connect the rpi directly to the AP for a while and see if it works
[2:04] <OffensiveUser> hows the range on that ap set
[2:05] <OffensiveUser> is your pi's address in range
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[2:05] <acidjazz> lol you got a log of tis chat
[2:05] <acidjazz> this chat
[2:05] <acidjazz> lol its in html
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[2:06] <interest1ng> OffensiveUser: if you are talking to me, then yes the ip address should be in range (im connected with various devices as things like, etc. and rpi is .115)
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[2:07] <geosmin> can i use the BFQ schedueler on the raspberrypi?
[2:08] <OffensiveUser> acidjazz, yeah hold on lemme pastebin it
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[2:09] <OffensiveUser> http://pastebin.com/Y0RKECFJ
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[2:28] <thescatman> guys, if I were to solder something like this http://www.arctic.ac/eu_en/arctic-f8.html fan
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[2:28] <thescatman> to a usb cable's power lines, and plug it into the pi, it would run fine right?
[2:28] <thescatman> it says it requires .1A at 5v
[2:29] <OffensiveUser> you could run it of the gpio pins
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[2:29] <OffensiveUser> but yeah
[2:30] <thescatman> 5V and GND GPIO pins?
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[2:31] <OffensiveUser> yeah
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[2:31] <thescatman> would I need to put a resistor on it or something?
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[2:34] <OffensiveUser> don't think so
[2:35] <thescatman> can't seem to find how many amps would be out from the gpio
[2:35] <thescatman> and looking at how many people have killed their GPIO i think i'll stick to usb :|
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[2:36] <OffensiveUser> it's the same 5v rail
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[2:45] <OffensiveUser> thescatman, people have run higher draw fans from the gpio
[2:46] <thescatman> alright
[2:47] <OffensiveUser> http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/8830/adding-5v-fan-to-gpio-2-and-6
[2:47] <OffensiveUser> max 300ma draw it seems
[2:48] <OffensiveUser> idk what model thats about tho
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[2:59] <teknic111> How can I change the timezone in Raspbian?
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[3:01] <OffensiveUser> teknic111, tried dpkg-reconfigure tzdata?
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[3:02] <OffensiveUser> sudo raspi-config will get you into the config menu and you can find it there for sure
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[3:03] <teknic111> i'll give it a shot
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[3:04] <simiuskong> Hey all, if I wanted to put a temperature sensor into my rbpi, could I just connect it directly to the GPIO? Never done anything with it
[3:05] <OffensiveUser> try looking on adafruit maybe you can find a guide
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[3:09] <simiuskong> Yeah i've been looking at Adafruit for the past hour, it seems like every example has you connecting via a breadboard
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[3:18] <givemefive911> simiuskong: u can solder temp sensor and resistor together and then attach wires and hook that straight to the GPIO
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[3:20] <givemefive911> simiuskong: that's pretty ugly tho, a better way would be to use a gpio breakout like this is:issue
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[3:20] <givemefive911> simiuskong: oops http://shop.ciseco.co.uk/product_images/f/636/IMG_4569__49260_zoom.JPG
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[3:21] <simiuskong> givemefive911: So that sits on the GPIO and then I can just push the temp sensor pins into the black area?
[3:21] <chipmadness> whats up guys
[3:21] <givemefive911> simiuskong: solder them into the holes
[3:22] <ctorp> This may sound ridiculous, but is it possible to use something like virtualbox to setup an OS then to use that VM's filesystem to preload a pi's physical usb?
[3:23] <givemefive911> preload?
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[3:23] <ctorp> preconfigure. sorry. basically slap that usb into the pi, power on, and the system is setup the way it was in the VM
[3:24] <givemefive911> look at meta-raspberrypi and the yocto project. you could build an image and then load it into qemu and then write the image to SD and boot it
[3:24] <givemefive911> ctorp: https://github.com/agherzan/meta-raspberrypi
[3:25] <ctorp> thanks, givemefive911. I'll go take a look
[3:25] <givemefive911> ctorp: There's a pretty new book on amazon for yocto if you want to go that route. It's pretty much the best way to build embedded images and there's good r-pi support
[3:26] <ctorp> yeah. I'm lazy in that I want to set up a few pis without having to connect a keyboard and mouse to each one in turn and set things up
[3:27] <simiuskong> givemefive911: If I bought this - https://www.adafruit.com/products/1109 - and https://www.adafruit.com/products/1112 - could I stack the screen and the board you linked me? Would they interfere with one another?
[3:27] <givemefive911> well there are alternatives if that's all you want, you can install raspbian on one and then replicate the sd cards and modify the host, ip, ssh keys and such
[3:28] <givemefive911> simiuskong: no
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[3:33] <ctorp> that's what I'm hoping to accomplish by using a VM to setup an image and then copy it to multiple sd cards. just trying to figure out how to not have to use my keyboard at all on the pis if possible (it is bluetooth). if i can preconfig them to connect to wifi and enable ssh, I can then remotely make any adjustments needed.
[3:35] <ctorp> I'm not sure meta-raspberrypi can do that? I'm not seeing how it can.
[3:35] <givemefive911> ctorp: just use QEMU then
[3:36] <givemefive911> ctorp: use a raspbian image with QEMU
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[3:37] <ctorp> givemefive911: like this? http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/a/15891
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[3:56] <givemefive911> ctorp: seems like that would work
[3:57] <ctorp> I'm trying it now. here's hoping.
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[4:02] <diegoaguilar> Hello, if I forgot raspbian user password
[4:02] <diegoaguilar> how can I reset it?
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[5:26] <JohnnyBitcoin> I need help!
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[5:27] <JohnnyBitcoin> I have an LCD that plugs into the GPIO pins, but I have no idea how to get it to display what I want.
[5:27] <McBride36> JohnnyBitcoin, with what?
[5:27] <JohnnyBitcoin> I would like to display a simple "hello world"
[5:28] <shiftplusone> JohnnyBitcoin, that's nowhere near enough information. There are thousands of things which could be described as LCD.
[5:28] <JohnnyBitcoin> this is the lcd in question... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MVWR404/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1#customerReviews
[5:28] <JohnnyBitcoin> the only thing this came with was a image of raspbian that displays the OS to the LCD.
[5:28] <shiftplusone> looks like one of the pitft ones
[5:29] <shiftplusone> should just be a framebuffer device... up to you what you want to do with that.
[5:29] <McBride36> have you tried following the adafruit instructions?
[5:29] <JohnnyBitcoin> no
[5:29] <shiftplusone> something like pygame should work
[5:30] <McBride36> https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-pitft-28-inch-resistive-touchscreen-display-raspberry-pi/software-installation
[5:30] <JohnnyBitcoin> I didn't know adafruit had instructions for this
[5:30] <JohnnyBitcoin> this instruictions that came with this thing are in chinese
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[5:31] <shiftplusone> https://www.coursera.org/learn/chineseforbeginners
[5:31] <shiftplusone> =P
[5:31] <JohnnyBitcoin> lol...no thanks
[5:32] <shiftplusone> psh... some people just aren't serious about learning
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[5:34] <McBride36> you have to know ~50,000 characters to read a chinese newspaper
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[5:44] <JohnnyBitcoin> It seems that these instructions on adafruit tell you how to make this display your main display. What I'd like to do is use it as a secondary display that only outputs simple text
[5:46] <JohnnyBitcoin> essentially i'd like a python script to output data to the pitft
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[5:49] <JohnnyBitcoin> is there a way to achieve this without modifying the kernel?
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[8:05] <john_rambo> Hi, I am trying to download Ubuntu using qbittorrentbut when I open the .torrent file qbittorrent opens but without any active downloads. Same this is happening with transmission
[8:05] <McBride36> why not direct download then?
[8:06] <john_rambo> My connection is unstable ..and torrents provide error checking
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[8:14] <botnut> anyone know of a decent gprs board compatible with rpi?
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[11:03] <heller\> about lcd's can someone suggest me a nice lcd for raspberry?
[11:03] <heller\> and a good and easy to use ADC. MPC3424 is not one :P
[11:04] <SpeedEvil> What for
[11:04] <SpeedEvil> i mean - what sort of resolution and ...
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[11:08] <heller\> to use with ACS712-5A for current, and a voltage divider for voltage
[11:08] <heller\> PCF8591 is easy to use. but seems to be almost too cheap on ebay
[11:08] <Giddles> i have the cheapest power supplys :) and it works fine
[11:15] <shiftplusone> Is there a betting pool for when Giddles burns down his house or is electrocuted?
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[11:17] <Giddles> well i run a 12v dc wind/solar system ;) nothing ever happened
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[11:21] <Giddles> if youre paranoid of a fire, use a fuse...
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[11:22] * shiftplusone starts writing down quotes for the Darwin award. =P
[11:24] <Giddles> are you afraid of flying an aeroplane?
[11:25] <shiftplusone> Only if it's designed by the same principles the cheap power supplies are.
[11:25] <Giddles> hmk
[11:25] <Giddles> i opened it and found a glass fuse
[11:25] <Giddles> i can sleep very comfortable (hehe with of cause smoke warners)
[11:26] <shiftplusone> Wait, I thought you said flying ON an aeroplane. Yes, I think I wouldn't trust myself to fly one just yet.
[11:26] <Giddles> im not an english native
[11:26] <shiftplusone> ah, fair enough.
[11:26] <Giddles> with an aeroplane or onboard.. your choice
[11:26] <Giddles> its six sigma
[11:26] <Giddles> i can sleep ;)
[11:27] <heller\> Giddles: what sort of wind/solar?
[11:27] <Giddles> like a baby.. :)
[11:27] <Giddles> heller\: selfmade
[11:27] <heller\> specs?
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[11:28] <Giddles> 38a, ~ 100w wind power, 50w solar power (when its sunny/not in wintre/no when its too hit), dc/ac changer, lightning security, i run my laptopc actual with
[11:29] <Giddles> hit= hot
[11:29] <heller\> where you at?
[11:29] <Giddles> germany
[11:29] <heller\> wonder how much does 50W panel really make current
[11:29] <Giddles> 5x 10w panels
[11:30] <Giddles> 17,1? when its sunny
[11:30] <SpeedEvil> heller\: It depends on the arrangement of the panels
[11:30] <shiftplusone> How do you store the energy? Car batteries or something?
[11:30] <Giddles> i store it in batterys with glue (Gel?) in it
[11:31] <SpeedEvil> Gelled electrolyte lead-acid
[11:31] <Giddles> right
[11:31] * shiftplusone googles
[11:32] <Giddles> we call it simple Blei/Gel
[11:33] <heller\> SpeedEvil: i ordered 50W for dads sailboat
[11:33] <shiftplusone> Sounds.... the same as a normal lead acid battery, but with gel O_o
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[11:34] <heller\> wonder will it take care of fridge and lights
[11:34] <Giddles> you load it different than a car battery
[11:34] <Giddles> i enlight my garden with led
[11:34] <Giddles> :) and this i called "free energy"
[11:34] <Giddles> but it aint free ;)
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[11:35] <Giddles> free - investment
[11:35] <Giddles> id think it never amortizes
[11:35] <advx_> hi good afternoon all..
[11:35] <shiftplusone> Psh, haven't tapped zero point energy yet? =P
[11:35] <Giddles> hehe
[11:36] <advx_> help needed trying to make tp-link drivers 8188 for Rpi 2, giving make error
[11:36] <shiftplusone> what find of error?
[11:36] <shiftplusone> blahblah/build not found?
[11:36] <heller\> Giddles: what charge controller you have?
[11:37] <Giddles> im using some hybride
[11:37] <Giddles> before i run it on some itv very nice..
[11:37] <advx_> make[1]: *** /lib/modules/3.18.7-v7+/build: No such file or directory. Stop.
[11:37] <advx_> Makefile:147: recipe for target 'modules' failed
[11:37] <advx_> make: *** [modules] Error 2
[11:37] <heller\> i ordered a tracer MPPT 10A
[11:37] <shiftplusone> ah, so 'yes'
[11:38] <shiftplusone> advx_, there's no headers package available
[11:38] <shiftplusone> advx_, actually, are you willing to be a guinea pig?
[11:38] <advx_> what is the best bet?? wht can I do, tp-link wifi dongle works great with Rpi1 B+
[11:38] <Giddles> im shunted :D
[11:38] <advx_> ok
[11:38] <shiftplusone> hang on... let me upload a headers package to test.
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[11:39] <advx_> ok shiftplusone
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[11:39] <advx_> shiftplusone, whts the worst thing that can happen?
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[11:39] <Giddles> whats your project heller\
[11:39] <shiftplusone> I don't want to talk about it =P
[11:39] <Giddles> only led lightning?
[11:40] <advx_> :-(
[11:40] <clever> advx_: simplest answer, build the whole kernel&modules, but you need to use an arm7 compiler, and rasbian only has an arm6 compiler
[11:40] <shiftplusone> advx_, don't worry, you can leave great legacy behind? Heard of Laika?
[11:40] <advx_> ouch...
[11:41] <advx_> worst case, will it fry Rpi2 or tp-link wifi??
[11:41] <clever> advx_: the better answer, is to fetch the right kernel headers, and the sym file, and an arm7 compiler, and build the module against all of that
[11:41] <clever> but its more complex
[11:41] <clever> but nothing can fry the pi
[11:41] <clever> except a deep frier :P
[11:41] <heller\> Giddles: just powering dads sailboat
[11:41] <advx_> hmm
[11:41] <advx_> hi clever
[11:41] <shiftplusone> advx_, nuh, it will be fine, you'll just be able to uninstall the package if it doesn't work
[11:42] <Giddles> ah ok, thats more risky ;)
[11:42] <advx_> I have downloaded git source
[11:42] <Giddles> no current, no radio, lost
[11:42] <Giddles> :D
[11:42] <advx_> shiftplusone, ok
[11:42] <advx_> currently talking to u guys from Rpi2
[11:42] <Giddles> i would double the system @ sailboat power suppl
[11:42] <Giddles> y
[11:42] <shiftplusone> agh.... the headers package is 18MB
[11:42] <shiftplusone> and I'm on Australia internet
[11:43] <advx_> where can I get it any url?
[11:43] <shiftplusone> Uploading
[11:43] <shiftplusone> 25 minutes =(
[11:43] <Giddles> even an (back to) airplaine got an APU :)
[11:43] <advx_> shiftplusone, ok... I m here...
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[11:43] <advx_> shiftplusone, clever u guys checked my make error...
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[11:44] <shiftplusone> yup
[11:44] <advx_> its saying build directory not found....
[11:44] <shiftplusone> don't worry.... top men are on it.... top men.
[11:44] <advx_> great
[11:44] * shiftplusone lied.
[11:45] <advx_> shiftplusone, do u have Rpi2?
[11:45] <shiftplusone> yeah
[11:45] <advx_> and clever? u got Rpi2?
[11:46] <zenguy_pc> still out of stock?
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[11:46] <clever> not yet
[11:46] <shiftplusone> I've given about 7 away last week. Got one left for myself =/
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[11:46] <SpeedEvil> heller\: speaking in general, most solar panels do not exceed 6A - as that's the most common largest cell size
[11:46] <Giddles> hehe
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[11:46] <Giddles> i could show you exapmes of panels that are running on munch more :)
[11:47] <SpeedEvil> Sure - which is why I said most.
[11:48] <Giddles> you mean the tiny ones?
[11:48] <SpeedEvil> No, up to 250W or so
[11:48] <SpeedEvil> 300 even.
[11:48] <SpeedEvil> Larger aren't really commonly available.
[11:48] <Giddles> you pulg them i would call parallel or in reihe
[11:48] <Giddles> :)
[11:48] <SpeedEvil> They pretty much all use simple series string of all of thepanels
[11:48] <Giddles> you could also mit it
[11:48] <Giddles> mix
[11:48] <SpeedEvil> all of the cells
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[11:50] <advx_> ..... how much uploaded shiftplusone
[11:51] <Giddles> what system you actual now want to see that got more than 6a :D small medium or big bertha
[11:51] <shiftplusone> advx_, 12 minutes left
[11:52] <Giddles> by the way rpi runs great on converted 12v wind/solar energy to 5v
[11:53] <SpeedEvil> I did the sums for here in scotland.
[11:53] <SpeedEvil> To run the pi - 2.5W - constantly. I need 250W of solar panel and a 100Ah 12V battery.
[11:53] <SpeedEvil> And it may still go down some days in Jan/FEb
[11:53] <Giddles> hehe
[11:53] <SpeedEvil> This is not counting snow.
[11:53] <Giddles> well in wintre you can forget solar totally
[11:53] <SpeedEvil> Not quite true - but it does suck
[11:53] <Giddles> i got 0.6A with 5 panels :)
[11:54] <SpeedEvil> If you want true 24*7 - then you can do it with solar - you just need much, much more - so you can cope with short dull days
[11:54] <Giddles> under 6a if its summer
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[11:54] <Giddles> i use wind ;)
[11:54] <SpeedEvil> Wind sucks as bad in many locations.
[11:55] <SpeedEvil> Especially with planning restrictions
[11:55] <Giddles> im lucky ;) a small mountain
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[11:55] <Giddles> restrictions? ;)
[11:56] <SpeedEvil> Giddles: For example here - from memory - I can't put a turbine up which extends more than 1.2m above the ridgeline of my property
[11:56] <Giddles> hmk
[11:56] <Giddles> 1.2m? :D
[11:56] <SpeedEvil> yes.
[11:56] <Giddles> oh i have no answer for that ^^
[11:57] <Giddles> condolences
[11:57] <Giddles> here its above ecact 10,00m
[11:58] <Giddles> exact
[11:58] <advx_> lsmod from Rpi2
[11:58] <advx_> Module Size Used by
[11:58] <advx_> snd_bcm2835 18850 0
[11:58] <advx_> snd_pcm 75388 1 snd_bcm2835
[11:58] <advx_> snd_seq 53078 0
[11:58] <advx_> snd_seq_device 5628 1 snd_seq
[11:58] <advx_> snd_timer 17784 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
[11:59] <advx_> snd 51667 5 snd_bcm2835,snd_timer,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_seq_device
[11:59] <advx_> sg 18207 0
[11:59] <advx_> r8188eu 435113 0
[11:59] <advx_> joydev 8903 0
[11:59] <advx_> evdev 9950 4
[11:59] <advx_> uio_pdrv_genirq 2958 0
[11:59] <advx_> uio 8119 1 uio_pdrv_genirq
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[12:01] <heller\> SpeedEvil: well the panels says, its max 2.7A
[12:01] <SpeedEvil> heller\: ##electronics may be better
[12:02] <heller\> nah
[12:02] <heller\> its nothing to discuss about :)
[12:02] <heller\> panel is ordered and thats that
[12:02] <heller\> well see if its enough
[12:02] <Giddles> nice
[12:02] <Giddles> look that you load battry with right loading cycle
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[12:02] <Giddles> and when you use it real for a boat, get a backup :D
[12:03] <heller\> just worrying about my calculations. if there is enough sun, its ok
[12:03] <Giddles> selfmade is the best, you can repair by yourself and you dont must look on every cent while you ordering the parts
[12:03] <heller\> i cant make my own MPPT-charge controller :)
[12:04] <Giddles> of cause not but the system
[12:04] <Giddles> you need fuses, supressor diods
[12:04] <heller\> diodes?
[12:04] <Giddles> lightning?
[12:04] <Giddles> :D
[12:04] <Giddles> ever heard of?
[12:05] <heller\> sure
[12:05] <heller\> but why do i need diodes :p
[12:05] <Giddles> supressor to prevent too damage
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[12:05] <heller\> hmm
[12:05] <Giddles> my panels were delivered with own diods, i put them out
[12:05] <heller\> you talking about the controller?
[12:05] <Giddles> only got warm and less a
[12:05] <Giddles> no
[12:05] <Giddles> the panel
[12:05] <heller\> ah
[12:06] <Giddles> check and measure, run a test
[12:06] <heller\> dont know about the panel actually
[12:06] <heller\> just that its 50W
[12:06] <heller\> and 79€
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[12:06] <Giddles> i payed less for 50w :)
[12:06] <heller\> i would like to get my hands on a 15-30W
[12:07] <heller\> i had a deal 50W for 50€ but i was too late :p
[12:07] <Giddles> well you run the system battery with it?
[12:07] <heller\> system battery?
[12:07] <Giddles> or only chare a battery
[12:07] <heller\> the panel will charge two batteries
[12:07] <Giddles> two
[12:07] <Giddles> :D
[12:07] <Giddles> hmk
[12:07] <heller\> one is for engine and one is for anything else
[12:08] <heller\> fridge, lightning, heating, umm navigation
[12:08] <Giddles> 50w? :D
[12:08] <heller\> yeah! :D
[12:08] <Giddles> youre kidding me
[12:08] <heller\> not really
[12:08] <heller\> there are only two lamps :)
[12:08] <heller\> navigation is ~200mA
[12:08] <Giddles> ah ok :D
[12:09] <Giddles> i thought of garmin :D
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[12:09] <heller\> its just a basic plotter and separate echo*
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[12:09] <heller\> according to my calculations, it would be max 333W per day
[12:09] <Giddles> i thought of graphical module :)
[12:09] <heller\> which is 27.8A per day
[12:09] <Giddles> with an 7.5" or so
[12:09] <heller\> hell no
[12:10] <heller\> its a boat from 80's :)
[12:10] <Giddles> hehe interesting
[12:10] <heller\> last summer i reworked all electronics there
[12:10] <heller\> well actually lots of old cable was used
[12:10] <heller\> but made fuses and stuff quite smartr
[12:10] <Giddles> use supressor diods thats my personal tip
[12:10] <heller\> for what really?
[12:10] <Giddles> the big ones, not the 600w
[12:10] <Giddles> lightning
[12:10] <heller\> dont know what for?
[12:11] <heller\> you mean TVS-diodes?
[12:11] <Giddles> right
[12:11] <heller\> charge controller will do that stuff for me
[12:11] <Giddles> backups are better
[12:11] <Giddles> im doing this since 4 years now?
[12:11] <heller\> do u have any calculations about the 50W panel output?
[12:12] <heller\> how much current it delivers per day?
[12:12] <Giddles> well my panels made about 1.1A per 10w
[12:12] <heller\> wow
[12:12] <heller\> what panels are they
[12:12] <Giddles> cheapest shit
[12:12] <Giddles> :)
[12:12] <heller\> url? :)
[12:12] <Giddles> nooo wait
[12:13] <Giddles> 0,8 (sorry solar is not very interesting)
[12:13] <heller\> http://www.hongkong.fi/fi/ekoenergia/aurinkopaneelit/aurinkopaneeli-50-w/p/722963/
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[12:13] <heller\> im getting that
[12:13] <heller\> max 2,91A
[12:13] <heller\> guessing not so good though
[12:13] <Giddles> hmm
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[12:14] <Giddles> looks ok
[12:14] <heller\> yeah
[12:14] <Giddles> one second
[12:16] <Giddles> this fi language drives me crazy
[12:16] <Giddles> :D
[12:16] <heller\> haha
[12:17] <Giddles> im wrong youre right
[12:17] <heller\> ofcourse!
[12:17] <heller\> :D
[12:17] <heller\> just kidding :p
[12:18] <Giddles> its 0.58A..., i found my calculation.. well fucking hybride made me thinking solar was better
[12:18] <heller\> hybride?
[12:18] <Giddles> so back to my theory: solar is shity
[12:18] <Giddles> hybride controller
[12:18] <heller\> i like solar
[12:18] <heller\> no moving parts
[12:18] <nefarious> Isn't this supposed to be a family friendly channel?
[12:18] <Giddles> no power :D
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[12:18] <Giddles> okok im sorry
[12:19] <Giddles> ill better watch my language
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[12:22] <Giddles> kind of emotional, i opened the green, buyed some cable tunnes, build a retainer for the panels.. and not munch fun and happyness of the electric harvest of my "seeds"..
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[12:30] <advx_> shiftplusone, u there..
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[12:31] <shiftplusone> and here
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[13:14] <lord4163> why can't I change the audio output from hdmi to headphone jack?
[13:14] <lord4163> it's stuck on hdmi
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[13:21] <shiftplusone> lord4163, sudo amixer cset numid=3 1
[13:21] <lord4163> shiftplusone: that does not work
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[13:22] <shiftplusone> what software are you using?
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[13:22] <lord4163> shiftplusone: raspbian
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[13:22] <shiftplusone> not which distro
[13:22] <shiftplusone> what are you running that's supposed to be playing the sound
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[13:25] <TyrfingMjolnir> Which keyboard to buy for raspberry pi 2?
[13:25] <lord4163> shiftplusone: omxplayer
[13:26] <TyrfingMjolnir> My Das Keyboard BAD ASS 4 uses too much power obviously
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[13:26] <shiftplusone> lord4163, that doesn't use alsa. There should be a -o flag you can use, I think. Something like omxplayer -o pwm, I think.
[13:26] <shiftplusone> omxplayer -o local
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[13:27] <shiftplusone> TyrfingMjolnir, any sensible (non-'gamer') keyboard should be fine.
[13:27] <MrKillius24> Hi
[13:27] <shiftplusone> though my razer is fine
[13:28] <MrKillius24> Well
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[13:28] <shiftplusone> MrKillius24, hi
[13:28] <MrKillius24> Hey shiftplusone
[13:29] <MrKillius24> I still have my wifi problem. Yay
[13:29] <shiftplusone> What is it with people and problems today? >_<
[13:29] * shiftplusone is caught in a support spiral.
[13:29] <MrKillius24> What do you mean ?
[13:30] <MrKillius24> I've had this problem for a couple days now. not like I've been beggin around irc for an answer
[13:30] <lord4163> shiftplusone: doesn't work
[13:30] <MrKillius24> What does not work ?
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[13:31] <shiftplusone> lord4163, does it complain or do you just not hear the sound?
[13:31] <shiftplusone> MrKillius24, what's the problem?
[13:31] <Giddles> hey i got a question too
[13:31] <Giddles> on my rpi2 theres a orange foil on the hdmi
[13:31] <Giddles> could i extract it?
[13:31] <MrKillius24> I have the drivers loaded for my usb wifi adapter
[13:32] <TyrfingMjolnir> shiftplusone: Got a name?
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[13:32] <MrKillius24> But even after editing the wpa and interfaces configs I cannot get anythig when I scan
[13:33] <MrKillius24> It's quite frustating
[13:33] <MrKillius24> Why on earth you do that Giddles ?
[13:34] <shiftplusone> MrKillius24, do this https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#WPA-PSK_and_WPA2-PSK. Try to connect and post the output.
[13:34] <MrKillius24> Done that already
[13:34] <MrKillius24> Nothing happens
[13:34] <shiftplusone> What does it say?
[13:34] <lord4163> shiftplusone: that works indeed :)
[13:34] <shiftplusone> where does it fail?
[13:34] <shiftplusone> lord4163, excellent
[13:34] <MrKillius24> iwconfig says nothing but the model name of the chipset
[13:34] <lord4163> shiftplusone: how do I set that for all applications then?
[13:35] <MrKillius24> It's a rt5370 by the way
[13:35] <MrKillius24> Is that supported by default ?
[13:35] <shiftplusone> lord4163, that amixer command does it. omxplayer is just an exception.
[13:35] <lord4163> shiftplusone: great
[13:35] <MrKillius24> I have the lastest raspbian
[13:35] <MrKillius24> So it should be in the kernel right ?
[13:36] <MrKillius24> I had no problems using the same adapter under mac or linux or even windows
[13:36] <MrKillius24> Why is it not working on raspbian ?
[13:36] <shiftplusone> if ifconfig -a shows it, it's fine.
[13:36] <shiftplusone> why you can't connect... is another matter.
[13:37] <MrKillius24> I can see it in ifconfig -a
[13:37] <shiftplusone> pastebin your interfaces file (feel free to add some stars to the psk.
[13:37] <MrKillius24> Will do
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[13:37] <MrKillius24> I would rather take screenshots as I'm sshed into the pi
[13:38] <shiftplusone> whatever works
[13:38] <MrKillius24> http://gyazo.com/933f169df12163195c830ce3f20a8178
[13:38] <shiftplusone> that is NOT what https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#WPA-PSK_and_WPA2-PSK says to do
[13:38] <MrKillius24> http://gyazo.com/88db1332b8917aca09d09f280f992190
[13:39] <MrKillius24> What can I not have both eth0 and wlan0 ?
[13:39] <shiftplusone> Get wlan0 worrking first, then come back to eth0
[13:39] <shiftplusone> but you can have both, yes
[13:40] <MrKillius24> So to get wlan0 working I have to get rid of the eth0 config ?
[13:40] <shiftplusone> Just add auto eth0
[13:40] <shiftplusone> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[13:40] <shiftplusone> no, you don't.
[13:40] <MrKillius24> Then what do I need to change in the interfaces?
[13:41] <shiftplusone> bring the one you don't need down.
[13:41] <MrKillius24> I could try that
[13:41] <MrKillius24> But I am sshed into the box and I don't want to lose that connection
[13:41] <shiftplusone> just.... get your interfaces file right first.
[13:42] <MrKillius24> Is allow-hotplug needed ?
[13:42] <shiftplusone> Here's mine http://pastebin.com/xMtEr7tW
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[13:42] <MrKillius24> Ohh
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[13:42] <MrKillius24> I hate whitespaces because Python made me hate them
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[13:43] <MrKillius24> So the wpa conf is not needed ?
[13:43] <shiftplusone> nope
[13:44] <MrKillius24> I recently set my pi to a static ip from my router I just learned that Debian likes to ignore that sometimes
[13:44] <MrKillius24> If you set it from the config
[13:45] <shiftplusone> Networks are.... fun.
[13:45] <MrKillius24> ^^
[13:45] <MrKillius24> Wait don't you need string quotes ?
[13:45] <MrKillius24> Pretty sure all the configs are parsed that way ?
[13:46] <shiftplusone> works fine, it's not like there are spaces there
[13:46] <MrKillius24> True
[13:46] <MrKillius24> I've read that this exact wifi adapter I'm using is such a pain to set up
[13:46] <MrKillius24> Because of the cheap chipset
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[13:49] <MrKillius24> I just did wpa_cli status and it could not connect to wpa_supplicant
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[13:51] <MrKillius24> I'm bound to an ip yeah
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[14:05] <heller\> oooh i like rsnapshot
[14:05] <MrKillius24> ?
[14:05] <MrKillius24> Wait if I can ping to my router but cannot ping to google is that good ?
[14:06] <shiftplusone> MrKillius24, nope. Can you ping
[14:06] <MrKillius24> I will try
[14:07] <MrKillius24> Network is unreachable
[14:07] <MrKillius24> I did ifdown on eth0
[14:07] <MrKillius24> I only have wlan0 up
[14:07] <MrKillius24> I am still on ssh
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[14:07] <MrKillius24> But considering where my setup is does not have a great wifi connection might be it
[14:08] <shiftplusone> nope, sounds like a gateway issue.
[14:08] <MrKillius24> Are you sure?
[14:08] <MrKillius24> I can ping to my router though
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[14:08] <shiftplusone> Well... sounds like an issue of some kind.
[14:08] <shiftplusone> related to routing... I don't know network stuff >.>
[14:09] <MrKillius24> How would it be a routing problem ?
[14:09] <MrKillius24> If it can connect to the router that's amazing
[14:09] <MrKillius24> That means all the configs on my side worked
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[14:29] <MrKillius24> I got wifi working
[14:30] <shiftplusone> yay
[14:32] <Giddles> and my problems? ;)
[14:32] <Giddles> can i depalce the orange foil on rpi2
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[14:33] <MrKillius24> Why would you want to remove that ?
[14:33] <Giddles> dont knew tought its just cover foil
[14:34] <MrKillius24> Leave it
[14:34] <MrKillius24> If it's there there is a reason
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[14:43] <kblin> hi folks
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[14:45] <kblin> I
[14:45] <kblin> I've got a rpi model B, and I'm trying to use it with some DS18B20 temperature sensors
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[14:47] <kblin> however, I'm not seeing any devices show up in /sys/bus/w1 after booting, even if I load w1-gpio and w1_therm
[14:47] <kblin> any idea what the problem could be?
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[14:48] <kblin> or at least how I'd go about debugging this?
[14:48] <kblin> I've tried three different sensors, none of them showed up
[14:48] <kblin> but the master device isn't showing up either
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[14:51] <teepee> kblin: I can't comment on the raspi part as I never tried that, but the one wire bus needs the pull-up resistor. do you have that?
[14:51] <kblin> yes, the circuit worked before
[14:53] <kblin> basically, I've got a 4.7 kOhm resistor betwen the 3.3v lead and "signal"
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[14:55] <kblin> just some of the cables got disloged during the last time I transported the setup around, and I suspect the "signal" pin on the raspberrypi side made contact with ground instead of the signal pin of the sensor
[14:55] <kblin> but I don't see what'd happen that'd break the pi in that case
[14:57] <Stephini_> what would be the best way to rig an LED to light up only when the rpi AND my xboxadapter are both powered on?
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[14:59] <kblin> also something seems to be detected, because if I boot the pi without the breakout board attached, dmesg doesn't show anything about the 1-wire stuff, but if I boot with the breakout board with the ds18b20 attached, I get a line in dmesg about 1-wire stuff initialising
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[15:18] <clever> kblin: did you enable one-wire in config.txt ?
[15:20] <igraltist> hi
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[15:22] <igraltist> i have mpd running but when i stream to icecast or use mpd httpd then its use nearly 100% cpu
[15:22] <turtlehat> im using raspbian on the pi2, would it make sense to compile some of the programs i use as opposed to getting from repositories?
[15:22] <igraltist> it there some tweak possibil
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[15:25] <Sonny_Jim> turtlehat: I would just wait for other people to compile them
[15:25] <Sonny_Jim> Unless you have a crosscompile environemnt it'll take a long while
[15:25] <Sonny_Jim> igraltist: It depends what format the stream is
[15:25] <turtlehat> ok
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[15:28] <igraltist> Sonny_Jim: format "44100:16:1"
[15:28] <Sonny_Jim> What format is the music you are playing?
[15:28] <igraltist> i use as encoder "vorbis" and encoding "ogg"
[15:30] <igraltist> ok mp3 with lame lower the cpu usage to ~66%
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[15:30] <igraltist> Sonny_Jim: at moment just streaming radio
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[15:36] <whizter> Hi
[15:38] <whizter> is there a way to turn off the behaviour that the Pi starts the TV via hdmi-cec on bootup?
[15:38] <teclo-> good question whizter
[15:38] <thescatman> there might be an option for it on your tv - mine has that option
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[15:39] <teclo-> well what I did is disabling CEC on my TV :)
[15:39] <whizter> thescatman, I need hdmi-cec, but not at boot-time :)
[15:39] <thescatman> ah, i dunno then
[15:40] <whizter> I turn on my TV via a script, but the problem is I don't want to turn it on after boot
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[15:43] <whizter> I have an idea. I just turn it off again with echo "standby 0" | cec-client -s after booting, so the tv can't consume power all the time after a power-blackout :)
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[15:54] <MrKillius24> well
[15:55] <MrKillius24> I need to find a cool use to my pi
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[15:55] <MrKillius24> I was thinking of some sorts of way of it playing random music
[15:55] <Sonny_Jim> mpd on shuffle
[15:55] <MrKillius24> mpd?
[15:56] <MrKillius24> Ohh
[15:56] <MrKillius24> That would be amazing
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[15:56] <thescatman> Sonny_Jim, is that updated for pi 2?
[15:56] <thescatman> I think i might do that...
[15:57] <thescatman> actually ya know what i'll do it on the pi 1
[15:57] <OffensiveUser> do what
[15:57] <thescatman> mpd (I didn't realise it existed..)
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[15:59] <AirForce590> guess what? I'm building a voice-controlled Wolfram|Alpha hooked robot named Melissa.
[16:00] <H__> sounds like a fun project
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[16:00] <MrKillius24> Wait would the pi be able to host both a samba server and run the mpd deamon ?
[16:01] <AirForce590> H__: I'm using Steven Hickson's PiAUISuite
[16:01] <AirForce590> MrKillius24: I think so
[16:01] <MY123> MrKillius24, yes, Linux is a multitasking OS
[16:01] <MrKillius24> I've been using Ubuntu since 8.04 I know that
[16:01] <MrKillius24> But I did not know if the hardware would permit it
[16:01] * AirForce590 slaps MrKillius24 around a bit with a large trout
[16:01] <AirForce590> shame on you
[16:02] <MrKillius24> Well I am new to the pi
[16:02] <MY123> MrKillius24: 1GB of RAM is enough
[16:02] <MrKillius24> You'd think so ?
[16:02] <AirForce590> MrKillius24: Understandable
[16:02] <MY123> MrKillius24, yes,with the quad-core CPU
[16:02] <MrKillius24> I just got the pi a couple days ago
[16:02] <MrKillius24> I don't have the pi2 , I have the b+
[16:03] <MY123> MrKillius24: You don't have luck
[16:04] <MrKillius24> How so ?
[16:04] <AirForce590> MrKillius24: I got a B+ for my bday, last october. I want the pi 2 so bad
[16:04] <AirForce590> MrKillius24: who did you buy it from
[16:04] <AirForce590> your pi
[16:04] <MrKillius24> Element14
[16:05] <MrKillius24> With shipping and stuff the b+ was cheaper
[16:05] <AirForce590> send them an email. For $5, they will exchange your b+ for a 2
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[16:05] <MrKillius24> Well element14 sent me the pi but I bought it off amazon
[16:05] <MrKillius24> and I do not want to change it
[16:05] <AirForce590> oh
[16:05] <AirForce590> but why not? It's a huge performance increase
[16:05] <MrKillius24> That is true
[16:05] <MrKillius24> but with shipping and resending fees
[16:05] <AirForce590> and just email amazon. They will refund you
[16:06] <MrKillius24> I need to refund my b+ case and wifi adapter anyway
[16:06] <AirForce590> and ship it to themselves for free
[16:06] <AirForce590> amazon will pick it up for free
[16:06] <MrKillius24> Would I be elligible for the upgrade ?
[16:06] <AirForce590> Just tell them it wasnt what you expected
[16:06] <MrKillius24> But I clearly bought the b+
[16:07] <AirForce590> well, it cant hurt to try
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[16:07] <MrKillius24> That is true but now that I have my lil pi
[16:07] <MrKillius24> I want to keep it
[16:07] <MrKillius24> I am in need of projects to do with it
[16:07] <AirForce590> oh
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[16:08] <AirForce590> well, if you don't want a free 3.5x performance increase.... fine then
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[16:08] <AirForce590> now, do "/slap AIrForce590
[16:08] <MrKillius24> It would be too complicated to deal with customer support and I am frankly not in the mood right now
[16:08] <AirForce590> oh
[16:09] <AirForce590> now, do /slap "your mom"
[16:09] * AirForce590 slaps "your around a bit with a large trout
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[16:09] * AirForce590 slaps MrKillius24 around a bit with a large trout
[16:09] * AirForce590 slaps Eben-Upton around a bit with a large trout
[16:09] <AirForce590> I'm done now
[16:09] <MrKillius24> ok
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[16:17] <thescatman> I wonder if I could trade in my pi B purchased 2 years ago for a pi 2 for $5 lol
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[16:19] <MrKillius24> That would be great
[16:19] <MrKillius24> Does the audio from the pi sound bad?
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[16:20] <thescatman> MrKillius24, it's not great
[16:21] <MrKillius24> but is it bad?
[16:21] <thescatman> you can get a sound card for it iirc
[16:21] <thescatman> i'd say it's 'ok'
[16:21] <MrKillius24> I could
[16:21] <MrKillius24> but then again I do not want to spend more money
[16:21] <thescatman> my pi 2 crackles a lot more than my pi 1
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[16:21] <MrKillius24> Ohh
[16:21] <thescatman> i'm not sure if sound through hdmi is better though
[16:21] <igraltist> i have on my pi a usb dac
[16:22] <MrKillius24> I haven't gotten vlc to play anything yet
[16:22] <MrKillius24> Is there a command line version of vlc?
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[16:29] <markit> MrKillius24: probably a vlc flag
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[16:29] <MrKillius24> yeah?
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[16:31] <markit> MrKillius24: what do you want to do with it?
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[16:31] <MrKillius24> Well I want to do two things
[16:31] <MrKillius24> I want to use the pi as a media center on my tv
[16:31] <MrKillius24> and to play some background music here and there
[16:32] <MrKillius24> The problem is I wanted to do it with web pages and stuff but they perform horribly
[16:32] <markit> MrKillius24: try cvlc command
[16:32] <MrKillius24> I will look into it
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[16:43] <Giddles> re, is it possible to run amazon instant video watchlist on rpi?
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[16:44] <Giddles> did anyone got some experience with it?
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[16:48] <cehteh> what can be used as LIRC transmitter for the rpi? i want to remote control other appliances
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[16:50] <CoJaBo> cehteh: I've heard you can do it with literaly an IR LED and maybe a resistor
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[16:51] <el3> cehteh: any ir transiever you can find
[16:51] <cehteh> ok, just googleing, i thought maybe someone here has some recommendation
[16:51] <el3> cehteh: and a 4.7 capasitor
[16:52] <cehteh> the transmitter should have some transistor as driver, but lemme look i was hoping for something ready to use
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[16:52] <el3> cehteh: I found a old dvd player, took the remote from there and harvested the transiever
[16:52] <el3> no transistor
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[16:53] <cehteh> how much mA can he arm drive?
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[16:54] <CoJaBo> not much
[16:54] <el3> cehteh: look at this. He describes it all to details. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV_QmDKx0kQ
[16:54] <Tenkawa> these new rpi's are really fun
[16:54] <Tenkawa> wish I could get cases for mine locally
[16:54] <OffensiveUser> that pi 2 is looking legit
[16:54] <Tenkawa> OffensiveUser: it is.... I am very pleased
[16:55] <Strykar> Hi, Is the best way of getting Dolby DTS output off the RPi2 an HDMI extractor?
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[16:56] <OffensiveUser> Strykar, hanging it off the tv and running the tv through a receiver will work the same
[16:57] * Tenkawa just wishes he could actually get a good set of speakers his cats wouldnt knock off the stands/table/etc and destroy
[16:57] <Strykar> I have a DAC that will take SPDIF input/output, my tele doesn't have an SPDIF output and I don't have a receiver with HDMI input
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[17:00] <OffensiveUser> https://www.hifiberry.com/hbdigi/ this'll work
[17:00] <el3> Tenkawa: you could make electrical fence arround them
[17:00] <Tenkawa> el3: dont want to hurt them either ...
[17:01] <el3> Tenkawa: they will only touch it once
[17:01] <el3> Tenkawa: or have mice to guard them
[17:01] <Tenkawa> ha
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[17:02] <Tenkawa> nah.. I just need to mount them higher up
[17:02] <Strykar> OffensiveUser, that looked like it uses an interface that wouldn't passthrough Dolby DTS/5.1 audio
[17:02] <el3> Tenkawa: I dont think that will stop the cats
[17:02] <el3> Tenkawa: They will be like. Oh Yaeh?
[17:03] <Tenkawa> el3: they cant reach my upper wall fortunateky
[17:03] <cehteh> Tenkawa: mount them to the surface somehow, velcro, hotglue, screws
[17:03] <Tenkawa> 100 year old house with high walls
[17:03] <Tenkawa> cehteh: they mangle most of that stuff on a regular basis
[17:04] <Tenkawa> and I'm not messing up 100 year old wood
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[17:04] <cehteh> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/elanlee/exploding-kittens
[17:04] <Tenkawa> up high is the best avenue I think
[17:05] <OffensiveUser> Strykar, seems like it's not supported by much as of yet, found an experimental xbmc build
[17:05] <OffensiveUser> so yeah the extractor would be the better option
[17:07] * Tenkawa wonders how a distcc/ccache setup with 3 of the rpi2's will run
[17:07] <Tenkawa> that should be nice
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[17:08] <cehteh> yes prolly nice
[17:08] <OffensiveUser> I wonder when the fist pi2 supercomputer is built
[17:09] <cehteh> network performs quite well and you dont need much io
[17:09] <Tenkawa> cehteh: I'm startig with 3.. going to add 5 more or so once I can get them
[17:09] <cehteh> at some point distcc will not improve anything anymore
[17:09] <Tenkawa> I'm an hour away from MCM electronics :)
[17:09] <Tenkawa> takes me a day to order more in
[17:09] <Tenkawa> heheheh
[17:10] <Tenkawa> I just cant believe the great direction computing technology is going again
[17:10] <cehteh> with things that are massively parallelizeable and prolly can use gpgpu stuff it wont be that bad
[17:10] <Tenkawa> this feels like when the home computer started getting popular in the 80's
[17:11] <cehteh> but you need to acknowlege the rather poor bandwidth of the pis
[17:11] <Tenkawa> the 70's were just so slow hehh
[17:11] <Tenkawa> cehteh: true
[17:11] <Tenkawa> however for my purposes it wont be a bottleneck
[17:12] <Tenkawa> all I know right now is I'm having a lot of fun
[17:12] <Tenkawa> and I havent been able to in hardware for a long time
[17:14] <Tenkawa> this advent of much larger microsd's is helping dramaticly too
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[17:15] <OffensiveUser> http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.nl/2013/12/howto-watch-netflix-on-bodhi-linux.html
[17:15] <OffensiveUser> hmm
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[17:17] <OffensiveUser> so, if you spoof windows ff you can watch netflix
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[17:17] <Tenkawa> nice
[17:17] <OffensiveUser> can this be done with a xbmc plugin i wonder
[17:20] <Sonny_Jim> Does anyone in here use gdb on the raspberrypi?
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[17:21] <Giddles> i need to buy mpeg2 coded..
[17:21] <Giddles> damn
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[17:27] <Tenkawa> Sonny_Jim: I will be using gdb when needed
[17:27] <Tenkawa> gdb debugger correct?
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[17:40] <Sonny_Jim> Tenkawa: Yes
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[17:40] <Sonny_Jim> I can't get it to work when using gdb foor
[17:40] <Sonny_Jim> *foo
[17:40] <Sonny_Jim> It just crashes, although I can attach to a running process
[17:41] <Tenkawa> oh?
[17:41] <Tenkawa> whats the segfault?
[17:41] <Sonny_Jim> It's a fairly common one
[17:41] <Tenkawa> hmm
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[17:42] <Sonny_Jim> https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/766
[17:42] <Sonny_Jim> I get the same problem, right down to the address
[17:42] <Sonny_Jim> But like I said, attaching to a running process works fine
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[17:43] <Tenkawa> intriguing
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[17:51] <clever> Sonny_Jim: seen that problem before, the fix is simple
[17:51] <clever> you need to delete a file in /lib
[17:51] <clever> if i remember correctly, there is an extra lib that overrides memcpy, with a specialized version that runs faster on the pi
[17:51] <clever> and that screws up gdb
[17:52] <Tenkawa> oh
[17:52] <Tenkawa> the fills/etc one?
[17:52] <clever> deleting that file solves the problem, and leaves slightly higher cpu usage
[17:52] <clever> yeah i think thats it
[17:52] <Tenkawa> copies and fills
[17:52] <Sonny_Jim> You sure?
[17:53] <Tenkawa> thats the raspi-copies-and-fills
[17:53] <Sonny_Jim> Because I thought that was a problem with valgrind that needed that fix? Not gdb?
[17:53] <clever> ah maybe
[17:53] <clever> cant hurt to test, just rename and see what happens
[17:53] <Sonny_Jim> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20066215/valgrind-unrecognizes-memcmp-instruction-in-raspberry-pi
[17:53] <Sonny_Jim> yes, you are getting confused
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[18:00] <thescatman> what does it mean if you ssh into the pi and you time out?
[18:00] <thescatman> my pi seems to have crashed and I can't seem to get it out of the gui
[18:01] <teclo-> thescatman: you shouldn't worry about timing out when ssh fails
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[18:01] <thescatman> how do you mean?
[18:01] <thescatman> I'm worried that I can't shut down the pi and will get a corrupt card
[18:02] <teclo-> thescatman: as on all Unix systems, if you connect, see "login:" and don't type anything, the server will "hang up" after like two minutes
[18:02] <teclo-> thescatman: ah if you really can't login then there's an issue, yes
[18:02] <GentileBen> I'll find you wherever you are, thescatman.
[18:02] <thescatman> teclo-, I mean no login or anything comes up
[18:02] <teclo-> and powering off without proper shutdown might indeed cause corruption on the filesystem
[18:03] <teclo-> thescatman: you got a display connected to the Pi ?
[18:03] <thescatman> I can't actually log in
[18:03] <thescatman> yes
[18:03] <teclo-> what does it show ?
[18:03] <thescatman> it's crashed after I left it on an emulator for a few hours
[18:03] <thescatman> a frozen game paused screen
[18:03] <teclo-> hm, weird, however it's very unlikely Linux has crashed
[18:04] <thescatman> how would you try to get out of it?
[18:04] <teclo-> I'd say AdvanceMAME has stalled
[18:04] <thescatman> I was trying to SSH into it so i could sudo shutdown but it just times out without even letting me log in
[18:04] <teclo-> thescatman: tried pinging ?
[18:04] <thescatman> i'll try that
[18:05] <thescatman> timed out
[18:05] <thescatman> oh
[18:05] <thescatman> 1 sec. :|
[18:05] <teclo-> are you sure it isn't a cable problem ?
[18:06] <thescatman> yes
[18:06] <Sonny_Jim> Can you ping the pi?
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[18:07] <thescatman> destination host unreachable
[18:07] <OffensiveUser> have you tried yelling at it
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[18:07] <thescatman> i've tried percussive maintenance
[18:07] <thescatman> that didn''t work
[18:07] <teclo-> thescatman: got a USB keyboard around ?
[18:07] <thescatman> yeah, it's plugged into the pi
[18:08] <teclo-> thescatman: then try ctrl-alt-del,on Linux it triggers shutdown to reboot the machine
[18:08] <thescatman> (2)
[18:08] <thescatman> doesn't seem to be doing anything
[18:08] <thescatman> hm.
[18:08] <thescatman> seems like it's totally crashed.
[18:08] <Sonny_Jim> Pull the power plug, it's hung
[18:09] <thescatman> The board is showing a red LED
[18:09] <thescatman> okie
[18:09] <teclo-> thescatman: it looks like your pie is frozen
[18:10] <Sonny_Jim> Nothing worse than frozen pie
[18:10] <thescatman> heh, no corruption I think. all good.
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[18:10] <teclo-> well there are some frozen pies you can put in the microwave, heat up and then eat, it's called pizza
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[18:13] <thescatman> I swear half the documentation for the pi ispie jokes
[18:13] <teclo-> thescatman: it's weird Linux crashed though, nowadays it almost never happens, the only cases I know of is once in a month, when using proprietary Nvidia kernel modules...
[18:14] <thescatman> I reckon it might be to do with my overclock
[18:14] <thescatman> or the emulator itself
[18:16] <teclo-> thescatman: ah well, I personally never overclock....
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[18:16] <teclo-> thescatman: the failure might be related to overclocking and running an intensive app
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[18:21] <Sonny_Jim> 99% it'll be advancemame
[18:21] <Sonny_Jim> MAME/MESS isn't supported on ARM properly
[18:21] <thescatman> does retropie use MAME?
[18:22] <thescatman> I was on mupen64plus emulator (n64) on retropie
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[18:30] <Sonny_Jim> Yes, but that version of MAME is about 4 years old iirc
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[18:33] <thescatman> oh, ok :/
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[18:43] <abaday> Hi, is there a linux OS I can install on my 2GB sd card for my pi?
[18:44] <heller\> anyone have info on raspberry curren consumption
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[18:45] <TheLostAdmin> my recently installed raspbian is using 1.4GB.
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[18:48] <DropBear> I get ~500mw max depending on what usb devices are plugged in ymmv
[18:48] <heller\> i measured somewhat about 400mA max with keyb and wlan on usb
[18:48] <heller\> getting it to 300mA would be great
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[18:53] <Tenkawa> abaday: many of them
[18:53] <Tenkawa> have you read the raspberrypi.org starting pages?
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[18:55] <Tenkawa> time to clone my pi's :)
[18:55] <Tenkawa> I'll brb
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[19:08] <Tenkawa> anyone got a list of "optimal" ext3 mkfs options for a rpi root fs?
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[19:20] <teclo-> Tenkawa: I guess the default options are good enough
[19:21] <teclo-> It's ext4 by the way :)
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[19:22] <OffensiveUser> does anyone have a recommendation for a linux music player that rivals foobar2k?
[19:22] <Tenkawa> bah.. i typoed the 3
[19:22] <Tenkawa> I use f2fs a lot but not ready to test it on rpi yet
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[19:30] <cehteh> Tenkawa: i tested i recently, performance wise its compareable to ext4 or even a tad slower
[19:31] <Tenkawa> yeah it works nice on my chromebook
[19:31] <cehteh> my main partition is dmcrypt and btrfs .. and there the crypto is the limiting factor
[19:31] <cehteh> about half as fast as plain ext4
[19:32] <cehteh> f2fs on dmcrypt isnt father either
[19:32] <cehteh> i prolly change to that (f2fs on top of dmcrypt) when btrfs fails again on me :D
[19:32] <Tenkawa> its pretty swift on my cb
[19:33] <Tenkawa> f2fs that is
[19:33] <cehteh> compared to what?
[19:33] <Tenkawa> ext4
[19:33] <cehteh> ok
[19:33] <Tenkawa> ext4 requires a lot of tweaking
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[19:33] <Tenkawa> extents, superblock, etc
[19:33] <cehteh> well i consider that an option, but here dmcrypt will certainly stay the bottleneck
[19:34] <Tenkawa> nod
[19:34] <cehteh> zswap is nice btw
[19:34] <cehteh> worth to set enable
[19:34] <Tenkawa> I dont use swap at all right now
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[19:34] <cehteh> ah i have zswap and swappiness=100 :)
[19:34] <Tenkawa> oh
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[19:35] <cehteh> works like a charm .. only tests with huge processes get killed at 2GB because of the 32bit os and 2gb userspace limit :)
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[19:36] <cehteh> when do we get a 64bit rpi with 16G of memory? :)
[19:36] <Tenkawa> indeed
[19:37] <cehteh> i havent tried yet to make the kernel split at 3gb user/1gb kernel
[19:37] <Tenkawa> ahh
[19:38] <Mad_Wack> why would my pi be refusing an ssh connection? normal I can ssh in without issue
[19:38] <cehteh> but that wont help that much because if a process tends to be huge, 1G more makes not that much of a difference and i dont know if the clib and everything else can handle that or needs recompilation, which would be too much efforts
[19:38] <Sonny_Jim> Mad_Wack: Can you ping the pi?
[19:38] <cehteh> Mad_Wack: cable unplugged?
[19:38] <Mad_Wack> Sonny_Jim: yes
[19:38] <Mad_Wack> I can ping it
[19:38] <cehteh> sshd stopped/killed
[19:38] <cehteh> firewalled?
[19:38] <Sonny_Jim> ^
[19:39] <Mad_Wack> it's also running my znc bouncer so I wouldn't be here
[19:39] <Mad_Wack> cool I'll vnc in and restart it
[19:39] <Sonny_Jim> Log in locally and check that the sshd is running
[19:39] <Sonny_Jim> ps fuxaw|grep sshd
[19:39] <cehteh> heh vnc works but ssh dont .. wtf
[19:40] <Sonny_Jim> If it's running, make sure you are connecting to the right port
[19:40] <Mad_Wack> yeah it is running, lemme check the port
[19:41] <Mad_Wack> uh how do I check what port it's listening on for ssh - I thought it was the default of 22
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[19:43] <Sonny_Jim> If you haven't changed it, then yeah 22
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[19:43] <Sonny_Jim> Make sure you are using the right port in the ssh client
[19:43] <OffensiveUser> hmm
[19:43] <Sonny_Jim> Also, have you messed around with iptables at all?
[19:43] <Mad_Wack> ssh: connect to host port 22: Connection refused
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[19:43] <Mad_Wack> not that I'm aware of
[19:43] <OffensiveUser> could you fit a pi in a psp1000 case
[19:43] <Sonny_Jim> And you sure that's the same IP address as the Pi?
[19:43] <cehteh> netstat -tnlp
[19:43] <Sonny_Jim> How did you check that sshd was running?
[19:44] <cehteh> tcp 0 0* LISTEN 2661/sshd
[19:44] <cehteh> for example. sshd listening on 22
[19:44] <Mad_Wack> I did ps fuxaw|grep sshd
[19:44] <cehteh> ps aux | grep sshd
[19:44] <Sonny_Jim> Use netstat
[19:44] <Mad_Wack> but yeah it's not on netstat
[19:44] <cehteh> does that show anythinf?
[19:44] <Mad_Wack> at all
[19:44] <Sonny_Jim> Ah ok
[19:44] <Sonny_Jim> What you did was this;
[19:44] <cehteh> then its not running
[19:45] <Mad_Wack> how do I restart it?
[19:45] <cehteh> dmes .. did it got killed by OOM
[19:45] <Sonny_Jim> pi 18171 0.0 0.3 3552 1720 pts/3 S+ 18:45 0:00 | | \_ grep --color=auto sshd
[19:45] <Sonny_Jim> You saw that and thought it was the sshd running maybe?
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[19:45] <Mad_Wack> yes Sonny_Jim
[19:45] <Mad_Wack> I'm not very good with the CLI yet :-/
[19:45] <Sonny_Jim> That's actually the process of grep you saw ;-)
[19:45] <Mad_Wack> lol
[19:46] <Sonny_Jim> sudo service sshd restart isn't it?
[19:46] <Sonny_Jim> Nope
[19:46] <cehteh> btw recent oxmplayer broke subtitles here, i reinstalled the older version, anyone knows if thats fixed meanwhile?
[19:47] <Sonny_Jim> sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[19:47] <Mad_Wack> that did it
[19:47] <Mad_Wack> thank you Sonny_Jim & cehteh
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[19:58] <Sonny_Jim> Bit weird that it failed
[19:58] <Sonny_Jim> sshd is normally very stable, it has to be
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[20:06] <cehteh> i would suspect OOM or some config issuem is it configured to startup at reboot at all?
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[20:32] <methuzla> on A+, which side of polyfuse goes to micro USB connector?
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[20:48] <Sonny_Jim> methuzla It'll be on the schematics
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[20:51] <methuzla> Sonny_Jim trying to find it on actual board, for soldering a wire to
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[20:52] <Sonny_Jim> Use a multimeter and buzz it out
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[20:53] <rlmccormick> hi everyone, is there a windows app that allows for realtime viewing of the camera?
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[20:53] <methuzla> fuse = short (if not blown)
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[20:54] <Sonny_Jim> rlmccormick: You could always use a webbrowser or VLC
[20:54] <Sonny_Jim> Pretty sure there's guides available to do that
[20:54] <rlmccormick> got it, just looked at the page on the raspberry pi website
[20:55] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm
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[20:55] <Sonny_Jim> What's the RRP of a Pi2 in £s?
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[20:55] <rlmccormick> saw the command line tools but will keep looking
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[20:55] <Sonny_Jim> Because Maplins has them for £40, whereas RS has them for £24 :\
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[20:56] <Sonny_Jim> Pretty big price difference!
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[20:56] <rlmccormick> price on pi2 is very high from most places at the moment
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[20:57] <rlmccormick> i do have one though and the performance difference from the B+ is incredible
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[20:57] <Sonny_Jim> I can't believe that Maplins would mark them up nearlt 100%
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[20:57] <Sonny_Jim> Actually, yes I can :-p
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[20:57] <OffensiveUser> round here cheapest you can get em is $40
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[20:57] <OffensiveUser> not too bad i suppose
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[20:57] <rlmccormick> i got one for 45
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[20:58] <OffensiveUser> that was supposed to be a euro sign
[20:58] <rlmccormick> $10 over isn;t too terrible
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[21:01] <Milenko> Afternoon
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[21:02] <bint> what i dont get, why is my usb hub with a 5v 1.2A powersupply capable of booting everything, from the rpi2 to the keyboard, mouse, wlan etc.. while my rpi suffers with the same amount of voltage and ampere to fire up only a external 2.5 harddisk
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[21:03] <Sonny_Jim> harddisks take quite a lot of current
[21:03] <Sonny_Jim> Spinning disks and all that
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[21:04] <wiiguy> bint ya usb hub might have 1.2 ampere input
[21:04] <bint> yes but why can my usb hub boot the rpi + all that stuff
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[21:04] <Sonny_Jim> Because the Pi1 is limited to 250mA (or maybe 400mA I forget) on the USB ports
[21:05] <Sonny_Jim> Pi2 can supply a larger current, as can probably your USB hub
[21:05] <bint> oh i'm talkin only about rpi2
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[21:06] <bint> well nvm aslong as it works its all good
[21:06] <Sonny_Jim> "from the rpi2 to the keyboard" "while my rpi"
[21:06] <Sonny_Jim> The way you phrased it was that you were comparing Pi2 to Pi1
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[21:06] <bint> nah sorry
[21:06] <Sonny_Jim> But anyway, the USB hub can provide more than the USB ports on the Pi2, probably
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[21:06] <bint> i'm comparing rpi2 powered by usb hub and rpi2 powered by its own powersupply
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[21:07] <Sonny_Jim> If you look in the wiki it probably has the numbers for USB current output on the Pi2
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[21:07] <bint> well thats the thing i guess.. the hub might provide more mah per usb port
[21:08] <Sonny_Jim> generally, you'd want to use external power on an external HDD anyway
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[21:08] <Sonny_Jim> I've had laptops/PCs that would struggle to power USB IDE/SATA adapters
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[21:11] <BurtyB> bint, iirc there's an option to allow more current usage on the pi 2
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[21:13] <methuzla> this seems to have worked: soldered +5V to PP2, GND to PP3
[21:13] <methuzla> based on B+ info here: http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=89522
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[21:15] <keetrainchild> Does anyone here know how to make a Raspberry Pi start X with the correct resolution and colour depth?
[21:16] <Sonny_Jim> define 'correct'
[21:16] <keetrainchild> Whenever I try to start kodi, it complains that it's not using 24-bit colour.
[21:16] <Sonny_Jim> I believe that you do that via config.txt
[21:16] <Sonny_Jim> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=8359&p=101557
[21:17] <keetrainchild> Thanks. I was trying http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=5851 .
[21:18] <Sonny_Jim> It's always wise to check the dates when things were posted, to make sure you are using current information
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[21:21] <BOSIG> Hi
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[21:22] <OffensiveUser> helo
[21:22] <OffensiveUser> o
[21:22] * Sonny_Jim waits for OffensiveUser to say something offensive
[21:22] <OffensiveUser> "no response in 1.30m chan has to be permadead"
[21:23] <OffensiveUser> oh sorry
[21:23] <OffensiveUser> uh
[21:23] <OffensiveUser> python sucks
[21:23] <OffensiveUser> anyone offended yet
[21:23] <travnewmatic_> i know my friend luke would be
[21:23] <travnewmatic_> but i dont think he's here
[21:24] <OffensiveUser> why did they call it python anyway
[21:24] <OffensiveUser> "yeah lets call out language a dangerous snake"
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[21:24] <OffensiveUser> python - it'll choke the life out of you
[21:26] <McBride36> i for one am very offended. expect an angry letter from me in the future
[21:26] <keetrainchild> Kodi no longer complains about the color depth, but now it shows just a blank screen.
[21:26] <OffensiveUser> McBride36, will it be strongly worded
[21:26] <keetrainchild> I know that X is working (basically) because I can load twm or Openbox.
[21:27] <Sonny_Jim> Does kodi have a log option?
[21:27] <OffensiveUser> I just got bodhi working how I want it
[21:28] <OffensiveUser> this means it's gonna die next month probably
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[21:31] <travnewmatic_> OffensiveUser, its named after monty python
[21:31] <OffensiveUser> lol, include shrubbery.py
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[21:31] * McBride36 hopes travnewmatic_ is serious
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[21:32] <OffensiveUser> we are the knight who call ni
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[21:33] <travnewmatic_> McBride36, I chose Python as a working title for the project, being in a slightly irreverent mood (and a big fan of Monty Python's Flying Circus).
[21:33] <travnewmatic_> https://www.python.org/doc/essays/foreword/
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[21:34] <McBride36> ah that makes fuzzy feelings appear in my heart
[21:34] <McBride36> ty
[21:35] <Milenko> 'You' chose?
[21:35] <Milenko> As in you're the brains behind python?
[21:35] <McBride36> no he's quoting the foreword in what he linked
[21:35] <Milenko> Oh lol
[21:35] <Milenko> I was about to say. This man is like nobility.
[21:36] <OffensiveUser> is python a good language for a beginner to learn?
[21:36] <Milenko> I don't believe so, no.
[21:37] <Milenko> Hnnnng wife just brought home French toast crunch
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[21:38] <McBride36> OffensiveUser, yeah python is a good beginner language
[21:38] <methuzla> OffensiveUser - it's ok
[21:39] <OffensiveUser> i have basic html/css and php skills if that helps
[21:40] <McBride36> if you can php, you can python
[21:41] <OffensiveUser> will it make me want to strangle things less
[21:41] <OffensiveUser> error: bird flew by window wrong on line 46
[21:43] <Sonny_Jim> Ooh you should try MAX/MSP
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[21:43] <Sonny_Jim> Programming language designed by musicians
[21:43] <Sonny_Jim> It's ridiculous
[21:43] <McBride36> don't listen to his lies
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[21:44] <Sonny_Jim> I suppose it's fine if you've never had any programming experience before, but it has the weirdest idosyncrasies
[21:44] <Sonny_Jim> You can bang a bang, for example
[21:45] <keetrainchild> disable_overscan=1 fixed the resolution problem... now on to kodi, which says "Failed to determine egl config for visual info".
[21:46] <travnewmatic_> Milenko, why dont you think python is a good language for a beginner to learn
[21:46] <keetrainchild> It looks like http://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?f=95&t=8512 might apply to that.
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[21:47] <Sonny_Jim> keetrainchild: What distro are you using?
[21:47] <keetrainchild> Gentoo
[21:47] <Sonny_Jim> Eek
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[22:37] <aberrant> python encourages lazy coding practice. It’s a great language for beginners because it’s so tolerant, but if that’s all you know you’ll be missing out on a ton of stuff that makes programming fun.
[22:38] <aberrant> of course, I’m a bit biased - I abandoned python for julia a couple months ago :)
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[23:09] <codestorm> hi all. I'm planning to write a program that displays images from a feed/API. What's the best way to display graphics things on a pi?
[23:09] <McBride36> aberrant, lazy practices like what?
[23:09] <OffensiveUser> lazy practices sound good
[23:09] <aberrant> McBride36: duck typing seems to encourage folks not to think about optimization and efficiency
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[23:10] <aberrant> 2) relying on exception handling as a valid logic branch is lazy as well.
[23:10] <aberrant> JMHO, of course
[23:10] <OffensiveUser> i want to make a dank ui for retroarch
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[23:11] <aberrant> but I can tell you the best graph package for Python is 100x slower than the one I made for Julia, specifically because of the optimizations in the latter and strong typing.
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[23:12] <aberrant> and there’s nothing wrong with being lazy, for the record - if you need to crank out some “just gonna use it here” code, python’s awesome.
[23:12] <McBride36> you sound like you'd like c++
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[23:14] <OffensiveUser> whats a good language for that
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[23:16] <codestorm> Do people use x11 for graphics? or make web apps and use the browser?
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[23:17] <l_r> whats up
[23:17] <aberrant> gah, network lag
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[23:18] <aberrant> yay network lag
[23:19] <aberrant> McBride36: I hate C++ :)
[23:20] <Sonny_Jim> codestorm: Depends on what sort of thing you are doing
[23:20] <Sonny_Jim> If you want cross-platform and it's simple, then do it in browser
[23:20] <Sonny_Jim> If you want cross-platform and it's more complicated and not 3D, SDL is a popular choice
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[23:34] <l_r> hmm..silence..
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[23:39] <Nine_9> hey guys, I don't understand something, if the USB2 specifies that the max current on the port is 500mA, and the pi does output 500mA, how is it possible that a USD2 HDD won't work on pi?
[23:40] <Nine_9> USB
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[23:40] <phire> usb2 hardrives exceed the spec
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[23:41] <Triffid_Hunter> Nine_9: lots of HDDs take more than 500mA
[23:41] <phire> and the pi doesn't implement the full spec
[23:41] <Triffid_Hunter> yeah, it starts getting a bit flakey at merely 200mA last time I checked
[23:41] <Nine_9> so, the ports on PC they supply more than 500mA? Cause i've never heard of incompatibility problems with USB HDDs for power reasons
[23:42] <ozzzy> my Pi2 won't drive a usb-powered hdd or dvd
[23:42] <phire> the pi will only negotiate to supply 100mA
[23:42] <phire> which is allowed by the usb spec
[23:42] <Triffid_Hunter> Nine_9: yep. typically they have a 500mA polyfuse which won't blow until about 650mA
[23:42] <[Saint]> They /shouldn't/, though.
[23:42] <Sonny_Jim> Yeah I have had desktop PC's that didn't like USB powered harddrives
[23:42] <Triffid_Hunter> they shouldn't, but they do
[23:42] <[Saint]> Unless its a dedicated fast-charging port.
[23:42] <Sonny_Jim> It's hit and miss whether they work without a external PSU
[23:42] <phire> or they share a 1A polyfuse between two ports
[23:43] <[Saint]> And even then, only if the device enumerates its requirements
[23:43] <phire> or they don't have polyfuses at all
[23:43] <Nine_9> but I heard the pi can output up to 600mA, not 100
[23:43] <Nine_9> what are the official numbers?
[23:43] <[Saint]> This is, of course, in a perfect world - where all USB components follow spec.
[23:43] <phire> the Pi will only negotiate 100mA
[23:43] <Nine_9> phire: sauce please?
[23:44] <[Saint]> Its USB spec. Look that up.
[23:44] <[Saint]> If a device doesn't enumerate, it only gets 100mA
[23:44] <phire> Nine_9, http://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/usb/README.md#powerlimits
[23:44] <[Saint]> Otherwise "Bad Things" may happen, for example, blindly giving a device 500mA even though it maxes out at 200mA, etc.
[23:45] <phire> well, no device should be relying on the usb port to only give it the requested power
[23:45] <[Saint]> Either way, the maximum any port can give, unless its a fast charging port (which typically doesn't have data lines), or an Apple port, is 500mA.
[23:45] <phire> especially since it's a polyfuse instead of a constant power supply.
[23:46] <[Saint]> Apple has its own magic for high-supply ports.
[23:46] <phire> and devices shouldn't draw more than 100mA until they have requested a higher limit from the host
[23:46] <[Saint]> But that doesn't really apply here, unless you're specifically tricking said port into believeing the pi is an Apple product.
[23:47] <[Saint]> ...which is possible.
[23:47] <phire> anyway, dpm
[23:47] <phire> anyway, don't plug usb2 hdd directly into a Pi
[23:48] <phire> supply power externally, or use a hub
[23:48] <[Saint]> The B+/pi 2 /can/ handle this amount of draw, IFF you specifically allow the ports to dish out that much in the config.
[23:48] <[Saint]> and IFF the PSU is up to the task.
[23:48] <[Saint]> Otherwise, no.
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[23:49] <Nine_9> [Saint]: can the pi 2 run USB2 HDDs without external power supply?
[23:49] <[Saint]> But unless the PSU has a _really_ clean and stable supply, even if you have enables the extra current draw in the config, it'll likely brown out when the drive spins up.
[23:49] <[Saint]> see above
[23:50] <phire> you still have the main input polyfuse
[23:50] <phire> which is rated at 700mA
[23:50] <phire> iirc
[23:50] <Nine_9> in fact my supply is way oversized for the pi
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[23:51] <phire> bypass the pi, supply power directly from the pi to the hdd
[23:51] <phire> *from the power supply
[23:52] <Nine_9> phire: you mean, by connecting the power wires of the usb to an external supply?
[23:52] <phire> yeah
[23:52] <Nine_9> i have the pi 2, perhaps I could config the ports as [Saint] said :)
[23:53] <phire> like I said, there is still a polyfuse which might (or might not) mess things up
[23:53] <[Saint]> the B+/pi 2 etc can allow for as much as 2.1A (IIRC) from the USB ports, but I'm not confident on how much each port _alone_ can deliver.
[23:53] <[Saint]> IIRC, that's up to 2.1A _total_.
[23:53] <[Saint]> ...and I can't offhand remember the config magic to do so.
[23:53] <ozzzy> the polyfuse on mine didn't do anything... the Pi recognized the drive just wouldn't read it
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[23:54] <Nine_9> I always fear that the colors of the USB cables I have won't be obeying the logic and i'll wire power in the data and blow my beloved pi :D
[23:54] <phire> ozzzy, probally because the the usb drive didn't get the power it requested and won't spin up
[23:55] <Nine_9> i can't test the microusb... too tiny pins :P
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[23:55] <phire> green and white are data
[23:55] <phire> black and red are power
[23:56] <Nine_9> phire: not always, not always :)
[23:56] <phire> except you still need to config the port to say it's provided extra power
[23:56] <ozzzy> phire, yep
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[23:56] <phire> the usb port has no way of knowing you have bypassed the power
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[23:56] <phire> the forums should have instructions on changing the port configuration
[23:57] <phire> ask google
[23:57] <Nine_9> even the wires of the fuel pump in my car are all messed up. you can't rely on the colors nowadays
[23:57] <[Saint]> If you buy dirt cables, sure.
[23:58] <[Saint]> buy cheap, get crap.
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[23:58] <Nine_9> [Saint]: yeah, sure.
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[23:59] <Nine_9> anyway, I'm going to try configuring the ports (i hope it's just a matter of editing a text file, not recompiling stuff) and if that doesn't work, i'm going to use external power

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