#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-03-03

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[0:09] <ali1234> Aerosonic: what ages is it meant for?
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[0:09] <Aerosonic> ali1234: Elementary school to harvard!
[0:10] <ali1234> sorry, i'm not american. what ages is that?
[0:10] <Aerosonic> 7 and up.
[0:10] <Aerosonic> And we're shipping worldwide.
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[0:11] <ali1234> what hardware components does it have besides LEDs and switches?
[0:11] <SpeedEvil> redstone
[0:12] <ali1234> redstone sucks without mods :(
[0:13] <Aerosonic> We aren't using redstone.
[0:13] <ali1234> good because that stuff is just confusing
[0:14] <Aerosonic> ali1234: Cables to connect the screen, Pi2, powerbank, LCD, the box, breadboards, motion detectors, and a custom pi case!
[0:14] <Aerosonic> With your name engraved on it.
[0:15] <McBride36> i bet the engraving is the expensive bit
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[0:15] <Aerosonic> There's also a mouse, 8GB sd card, wires, buttons, lights, switches, etc etc.
[0:15] <Aerosonic> Oh and there is engraving on the box itself. With lasers. Because lasers are awesome.
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[0:16] <ali1234> Aerosonic: yes but specifically what electronics components? it seems like essentially all you have is inputs and outputs?
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[0:17] <Aerosonic> ali1234: We're using GPIO pins to activate python scripts. Basically yes.
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[0:17] <ali1234> so where does the problem solving aspect come in?
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[0:19] <Aerosonic> ali1234: Well, you're presented with puzzles in minecraft which you have to solve by figuring out how the circuitry works. You get hints and if you get stuck you get more hints.
[0:19] <ali1234> when you say "circuitry" you mean in the minecraft world, or the switch connected to the gpio pins?
[0:20] <Aerosonic> ali1234: Both! You get feedback in the game of what you're doing to the GPIO pins.
[0:20] <Aerosonic> ali1234: I recommend watching the video.
[0:20] <Aerosonic> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/withpiper/piper-a-minecraft-toolbox-for-budding-engineers
[0:20] <ali1234> i have done
[0:21] <ali1234> it doesn't explain any of this stuff
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[0:22] <Aerosonic> ali1234: http://www.withpiper.com/
[0:22] <ali1234> yeah i've seen that too
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[0:24] <ali1234> as the page says "What else could I make with this?"
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[0:27] <Aerosonic> ali1234: You can build your own levels, you can learn Python, and we will be updating the game and adding more levels.
[0:27] <ali1234> when i was a kid the problem i always had with legos is you never have enough to build what you want
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[0:28] <ali1234> minecraft is great for that. you have unlimited resources so long as you put in some work. or play creative mode
[0:28] <Aerosonic> But see, minecraft has unlimited resources :D
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[0:28] <ali1234> but i guess i don't see what adding physical switches brings to the table
[0:29] <Aerosonic> Well, for kids to learn how electronics work.
[0:30] <ali1234> switches are barely electronics
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[0:30] <ali1234> you can't really do electronics without covering ohm's law, which unfortunately would be rather hard given the pi has no analogue capability
[0:31] <ali1234> i mean if you compare it to something like the classic electronics kits like this https://www.quasarelectronics.co.uk/Item/30-in-1-electronic-project-lab-kit-maxitronix-elenco-mx-903?gclid=Cj0KEQiAsdCnBRC86PeFkuDJt_MBEiQAUXJfLcPO-kKeQSlw5IxdqvKci_wD57_KGzPepx86oCbmZqMaAvIk8P8HAQ
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[0:38] <steve_rox> messing with alcahol gas sensor again
[0:38] <steve_rox> wish there was way to use on rpi :-P
[0:38] <ali1234> datasheet?
[0:38] <steve_rox> sainsmart mq3
[0:39] <steve_rox> http://www.amazon.co.uk/SainSmart-10-1000ppm-Alcohol-Detector-Arduino/dp/B00E5X2VZA
[0:39] <steve_rox> one them basiclly
[0:39] <ali1234> yeah, lack of ADC strikes again
[0:40] <steve_rox> ive managed to hookup a multimeter to one its data outs
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[0:40] <steve_rox> and voltage increases per how angry it is
[0:40] <gtsnexp> someone experienced with the Geertboard?
[0:40] <gtsnexp> Any new alternatives?
[0:40] <gtsnexp> Compatible with Pi2, of course...
[0:40] <steve_rox> spose id need some adc conversion thing
[0:40] <ali1234> something like this should allow you to connect it to pi http://www.adafruit.com/products/1083
[0:40] <steve_rox> i dont have enough experence tho
[0:41] <steve_rox> loading
[0:41] <ali1234> it comes with libraries
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[0:41] <ali1234> no doubt there are cheap clones on amazon
[0:41] <steve_rox> sensor is rated 5v if that means anything
[0:41] <ali1234> maximum yeah
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[0:43] <steve_rox> i did see a way to read a LDR or resistor with rpi
[0:43] <steve_rox> not exactly accurate
[0:43] <steve_rox> prob couldent use a simular thing
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[0:45] <ali1234> you could wire up an oscillating circuit including the sensor and then measure the frequency it oscillates at
[0:45] <ali1234> but that would kind of suck
[0:45] <steve_rox> ah
[0:45] <steve_rox> theres pins labled Ao and Do
[0:45] <steve_rox> the A seems to get higher voltage on detect
[0:45] <steve_rox> and the D deceases in voltage
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[0:46] <Ryzari> isn't AO analong output, and DO digital?
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[0:47] <steve_rox> i thoughtt that
[0:47] <ali1234> i suspect the d0 is a digital output yes
[0:47] <steve_rox> but i lack the tools to scan whats comeing out
[0:47] <ali1234> it probably just flips at a certain threshold configured by the pot
[0:47] <Ryzari> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=75872
[0:47] <Ryzari> check that? it's for a moisture sensor
[0:47] <ali1234> the board only has a pot and an op-amp and some passives
[0:48] <steve_rox> when no gas detected the Do reads highest voltage
[0:48] <steve_rox> picture for ants ;-)
[0:49] <steve_rox> no one else has mentioned of trying a gas sensor on rpi
[0:49] <steve_rox> maybe its not dooable
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[0:49] <Ryzari> it's just a sensor, prolly functions basically the same as any other
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[0:50] <steve_rox> also needs quite a bit of MA to warm up
[0:50] <steve_rox> so powering off rpi rail is prob bad idea
[0:50] <ali1234> don't run it off the 3.3v rail
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[0:51] <ali1234> 5v rail should be okay as long as the total of everything is within limits
[0:51] <ali1234> and yes the D0 just gives a clean on/off signal
[0:52] <steve_rox> hmmz
[0:52] <ali1234> it will flip from 0 to 1 at a certain point, rather than slowly building up
[0:52] <steve_rox> im not brave enough to try it
[0:52] <Aerosonic> Whoo! We are a staff pick on kickstarter! <3
[0:52] <steve_rox> eh?
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[0:53] <ali1234> Aerosonic: so do you have an interface for i2c/spi?
[0:53] <ali1234> connecting a 3d compass to i2c and then using it in minecraft somehow... now that would be interesting
[0:54] <steve_rox> interestin
[0:54] <steve_rox> indeed
[0:54] <Aerosonic> ali1234: That's a pretty good idea.
[0:54] <Aerosonic> ali1234: I'll pass it along.
[0:55] <ali1234> there's two things i always wanted in minecraft
[0:56] <ali1234> one is the ability to have a block with a tiny map inside it
[0:56] <steve_rox> i wish they would of given us a version with red stone support
[0:56] <ali1234> so you go "inside" the block and build whatever machinery, and then you can place it in the overworld level like an integrated circuit
[0:56] <steve_rox> oh yea IC chips would be nice
[0:57] <steve_rox> space saving
[0:57] <ali1234> the other thing i want is computercraft but with real virtual machines created on demand, with a virtual network that makes connections when you connect the computers with redstone
[0:57] <ali1234> seems like i won't be getting either of these things though
[0:58] <steve_rox> or some script that can display what computers on the network?
[0:58] <ali1234> not really the same
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[1:07] <AirForce590> Hey, I just got my new rPi 2, and the SD card isn't booting. The lights are just staying stable. I am using the latest raspbian image, and have tried several different methods on my ubuntu machine. Any help?
[1:08] <AirForce590> I did it with dd, and tried 4M and 1M
[1:08] <ali1234> block size doesn't matter
[1:08] <AirForce590> Should I use NOOBS?
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[1:11] <steve_rox> video output check?
[1:12] <AirForce590> not working
[1:12] <Ryzari> no rainbow?
[1:12] <steve_rox> hdmi or composite
[1:12] <AirForce590> I tried it with an SD from my b+ and I saw the rainbow
[1:12] <AirForce590> HDMI
[1:13] <steve_rox> hmmz
[1:13] <Ryzari> did you format fat32?
[1:13] <AirForce590> yep, SD Formatter tool
[1:13] <AirForce590> official
[1:13] <AirForce590> getting noobs now
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[1:20] <AirForce590> Yes. NOOBS. Colored screen!
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[1:20] <cehteh> now you have it official: you are a noob
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[1:21] <AirForce590> but I own a b, a b+, a cam board, and a b2
[1:21] <cehteh> noob�
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[1:22] <AirForce590> What would be a nice, beneficial-to-society robot idea I could build?
[1:22] <AirForce590> using pi of course
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[1:22] <ali1234> i guess "attack drone" is out of the question
[1:23] <cehteh> depends on what it attacks :)
[1:23] <AirForce590> I have 2 continuous servos, 4 standard servos, 2 micros, and a bunch of sensors\
[1:23] <cehteh> drone counterattack drone :)
[1:23] <AirForce590> oh, and a distance sensor, and a lib for voice control of the pi
[1:23] <cehteh> what kind of voice control?
[1:24] <cehteh> i am interested in that, almost thinking about coding something by myself
[1:24] <nomis> can someone tell me to what distribution http://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/pin-configuration.md applies? I am trying raspbian and it does not have a /boot/dt-blob.bin
[1:24] <cehteh> what lib
[1:24] <AirForce590> programmable, with a config file. You can program it to do commands, and wolfram alpha integration
[1:24] <AirForce590> stephen hickson's voicecommand
[1:24] <AirForce590> link incoming
[1:25] <AirForce590> http://stevenhickson.blogspot.com/2013/06/installing-and-updating-piauisuite-and.html
[1:25] <cehteh> found it
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[1:26] <cehteh> is that rpi only .. eh where is the source
[1:26] <cehteh> got it
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[1:28] <cehteh> ah no .. fuck .. why does anyone want to have google listening in your bedroom
[1:29] <cehteh> cant anyone come up with a standalone offline voicecommand thingy
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[1:29] <SpeedEvil> cehteh: It is clearly impossible.
[1:29] <Ryzari> like google really cares about your lack of sex life =/
[1:29] <SpeedEvil> cehteh: never mind that it worked quite well in 1995 on 240MHz pentiums
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[1:29] <cehteh> SpeedEvil: exactly :)
[1:30] <steve_rox> wish we could get unreal1 on the rpi ;-)
[1:30] <cehteh> i only want a dozen commands or so, trained for a single speaker
[1:30] <cehteh> everyone tries to do speaker agnostic continous speech recognition and says thats too hard
[1:30] <AirForce590> cehteh
[1:30] <AirForce590> guess what
[1:30] <cehteh> what?
[1:31] <ali1234> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFth9K_IvwA&feature=youtube_gdata
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[1:31] <AirForce590> I can give you sweet speech recog just ask me a question
[1:31] <cehteh> eh?
[1:31] <AirForce590> I am the engine
[1:31] <cehteh> yeah ok offline
[1:31] <ozzzy_> I am the power
[1:31] <AirForce590> ok
[1:31] <AirForce590> ask me
[1:32] <cehteh> speaking german? :)
[1:32] <AirForce590> I am your mother
[1:32] <AirForce590> sure
[1:32] <cehteh> my mother does no internets she has a typewriter
[1:32] <AirForce590> your mother is a typewriter?
[1:32] <AirForce590> oh crap misread
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[1:32] <AirForce590> Please input command.
[1:32] <cehteh> failed even at typed text recognition :DDDD
[1:33] <cehteh> rm -rf AirForce590
[1:33] <AirForce590> Command not understood. Please try again
[1:33] <cehteh> anyway, seriously someone interested in starting a project for command recognition?
[1:34] <ozzzy_> Answer hazy. Try again later.
[1:34] <AirForce590> self destruct https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIrX8YpiJgA
[1:35] <niston> cehteh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_%28software%29
[1:35] <AirForce590> Oh my god
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[1:36] <AirForce590> source code plz
[1:36] <AirForce590> must.... compile.....
[1:38] <AirForce590> hye, noobs is ready!
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[1:45] <cehteh> niston: i know julius and sphinx .. both need a complicated corpus for each language which is hard to construct and needs a lot resources, thats not what i am thinking about
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[1:47] <cehteh> i dont want it to know grammars and languages .. it should just be trained to some phrases, maybe with a *few* variables for numericals and enumerations
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[1:48] <Tenkawa> hi all
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[1:48] <cehteh> "Turn the light on|off" ... "set temperature to 20 Degree" etc
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[1:48] <edman007> Hi, does anyone else have issues with the pi locking up on SPI/I2C use? My program keeps freezing and this is getting spit out in dmesg http://pastebin.com/JRttk4Qg
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[1:52] <stevenjames> why does it say Disconnected(Invalid Argument) when i didn't even get to state my side?
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[1:53] <edman007> stevenjames, uhh...because you provided an invalid argument?
[1:53] <edman007> without context I don't think you're getting a better answe
[1:53] <edman007> *answer
[1:54] <stevenjames> why does it say Disconnected(Invalid Argument) ********when i didn't even get to state my side?*****
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[1:56] <Tenkawa> stevenjames: whats the problem?
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[1:56] <cehteh> ENOCONTEXT
[1:57] <cehteh> speaking about IRC? [01:49] <-- stevenjames has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
[1:57] <cehteh> .. flacky network, maybe cable
[1:57] <Tenkawa> not all cable networks are flaky
[1:58] <Tenkawa> and not all non-cable aren't
[1:58] <Tenkawa> heheh
[1:58] <granfalloon> Anyone here have CEC working with Kodi on Retropie?
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[2:02] <Tenkawa> granfalloon: not I
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[2:03] <stevenjames> cehteh word to big bird
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[2:10] <granfalloon> Ok, so anyone have CEC working on raspbian without an xbmc variant directly installed?
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[2:16] <ozzzy_> what's CEC
[2:18] <granfalloon> it's what lets your TV remote control the pi
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[2:20] <ozzzy_> ah
[2:20] <ozzzy_> I just bought a remote that plugs into the USB
[2:20] <ozzzy_> it pretends to be a mouse and keyboard
[2:21] <granfalloon> yeah, I have one of those, but want to be able to navigate xbmc with the TV remote for convenience
[2:21] <granfalloon> works great with all of the xbmc variants for the pi, but I haven't been able to get it working under retropie
[2:22] <granfalloon> tried this, but just get all kinds of errors: http://blog.petrockblock.com/forums/topic/cec-remote-control/
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[2:23] <ozzzy_> AND IT TYPES BAD
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[2:23] <McBride36> ozzzy_, link?
[2:23] <ozzzy_> hehe... I haven't figured out the typing thing yet
[2:23] <McBride36> i need to know what not to buy
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[2:24] <ozzzy_> http://goo.gl/rIlC07
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[2:25] <McBride36> looks good sorta
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[2:27] <ozzzy_> cheaper than heck
[2:27] <ozzzy_> but it works
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[2:31] <granfalloon> I have one like this, and it is OK: http://tinyurl.com/laq4m3w
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[2:38] <cehteh> bigger than mine :D
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[2:39] <hybr1d8> I use the Flirc device (http://flirc.tv/) - you can train it with any existing IR remote and it shows up as a normal keyboard to the pi
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[3:21] <teknic111> anyone running raspbian on a pi2?
[3:23] <abnormal> yeh, me
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[3:23] <muriani> yeah
[3:24] <teknic111> can you guys do me a favor and check if you get artifacts on your screen if you switch to portrait mode?
[3:25] <abnormal> my pi ain't on now.. I am on a lappy for now.
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[3:25] <abnormal> but I can suggest one thing, install clamav.
[3:26] <teknic111> muriani, how about you?
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[3:26] <teknic111> why clamav?
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[3:27] <teknic111> it's definitely not a virus. Artifacts appeared right after a clean install from noobs.
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[3:28] <abnormal> ok then it's something I don't know about, sorry.
[3:28] <teknic111> no problem
[3:28] <teknic111> thanks anyway
[3:28] <niston> someone else mentioned this, didn't they
[3:28] <niston> ugly gfx faults in portrait mode
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[3:30] <teknic111> not sure, which is why I'd like to confirm if this is a bug or isolated to my Pi 2.
[3:31] <niston> well all I can tell is someone else mentioned the exact same problem concerning Pi2, and even posted a screenshot
[3:31] <teknic111> that might of been me
[3:31] <niston> could be, I don't remember who it was
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[3:32] <teknic111> I posted about this problem about a week or two ago.
[3:32] <niston> but if you could repost the link to the screenshot, I'm pretty confident I'd remember it
[3:32] <teknic111> sure
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[3:34] <teknic111> here's the screenshot http://i.imgur.com/6pCGX4O.jpg
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[3:35] <niston> yeah
[3:35] <niston> that was it
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[3:38] <abnormal> what the flip was that?
[3:39] <abnormal> looked like the processor went belly up... lol
[3:39] <teknic111> that's what happens when i switch to portrait mode, however, landscape works perfectly fine.
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[3:41] <abnormal> I see.. a glitch in the OS to execute the libreoffice app correctly?
[3:42] <teknic111> not sure what you mean?
[3:43] <abnormal> well if the raspbian version of libreoffice is not coded correctly to be executed properly it'll morph like that.
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[3:45] <teknic111> that's just a terminal. Libreoffice is not installed.
[3:46] <teknic111> it doesn't matter whats opened. as you move a window around the screen, you get artifacts
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[3:48] <abnormal> ok, I never experienced that before.. so can I ask if your PSU is powering the pi correctly?
[3:50] <teknic111> yes, I am using the usb wall adapter, so I know I'm getting enough power
[3:50] <muriani> teknic111: sorry, my system's at the office atm
[3:50] <RoyK> teknic111: rated at what? those rated at 1A commonly can't do even 800mA without dropping voltage
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[3:51] <teknic111> muriani, no problem
[3:51] <steve_rox> on b+/a+ they can sence if they are low power
[3:51] <RoyK> cheap ebay things rated at 1A may start to drop voltage at 600mA or even less
[3:52] <steve_rox> can read the stat of power from a gpio pin too
[3:52] <teknic111> royk, the adapter came with my pi, so I would assume it would give enough power
[3:52] <RoyK> steve_rox: if they sense (not sence) voltage drop, what do they do? clock down?
[3:52] <steve_rox> errr
[3:52] <steve_rox> i think it does
[3:52] <RoyK> teknic111: those are usually rated for 2A and should work well
[3:52] <steve_rox> so if you were set to turbo i think it auto stops oc
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[3:53] <steve_rox> i made a script that starts counting when low voltage is detected
[3:53] <steve_rox> so in theory i could tigger a auto shutdown
[3:53] <steve_rox> when a time is reached
[3:54] <RoyK> steve_rox: somewhat doubt it, but then, not sure - cpufreq etc seems largely static on the pi - not even normal cpu frequency scaling is enabled
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[3:54] <steve_rox> well i think it can scale back when it reaches a certain temp
[3:54] <RoyK> with a userspace governor it should be possible to drop to 600MHz or so in case of power loss
[3:54] <steve_rox> so i guess it wouldent be hard to set it on other events
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[3:55] <RoyK> steve_rox: standard governor is "performance" meaning it does all it can to make it perform well
[3:55] <RoyK> doesn't seem like the pi is built for power saving
[3:56] <cehteh> huh?
[3:56] <RoyK> but then - low voltage will make it turn off
[3:56] <RoyK> cehteh: having the cpu clocked at a constant rate regardless of use isn't that smart
[3:56] <steve_rox> i gotta find a way to exec python scripts and have em run silent in bg without terminal
[3:57] <RoyK> steve_rox: cron?
[3:57] <cehteh> the normal pi kernel does cpufreq, also throttles back if temperature is over 85�C
[3:57] <steve_rox> no idea what cron is
[3:57] <cehteh> besides at 600Mhz its possibly less energy efficient, less time for sleep states
[3:58] <cehteh> you can install 'powertop' and watch the cpufreq transistions and states
[3:59] <steve_rox> interesting
[3:59] <niston> crond
[3:59] <niston> read up on it
[4:00] <RoyK> cehteh: cehteh doubtfully, since capacitive load increases with frequency. also check cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq - it doesn't scale down
[4:01] <RoyK> cehteh: google cron - or run 'man 5 crontab'
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[4:02] <steve_rox> hopefully this cron will run stuff as root
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[4:04] <cehteh> RoyK:
[4:04] <cehteh> http://nopaste.ghostdub.de/?1089
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[4:08] <Tenkawa> so... anyone got a large distcc array of rpis yet?
[4:09] <cehteh> send me some rpi's for that :D
[4:09] <Tenkawa> hehehehh
[4:09] <cehteh> srsly .. dont need the pi2 is fast enough for me
[4:09] <Tenkawa> I have a few of them so far and I am very impressed
[4:10] <cehteh> compiling the kernel takes a bit, but its much faster than on the old B with 256MB ram
[4:10] <Tenkawa> heheheh
[4:10] <Tenkawa> yep
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[4:11] <Tenkawa> its amazing considering what components it started with and what its become
[4:11] <Tenkawa> steve_rox: what are you trying to do with cron btw?
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[4:11] <steve_rox> i wanted to exec a script on boot and make it run in bg
[4:12] <cehteh> reconfigured the kernel to get it smaller .. my kernel was over 8MB ... the stock kernel is 3MB .. i guess i added too much cruft
[4:12] <Tenkawa> why use cron? build an init script for it
[4:12] <cehteh> or maybe there is some way to strip more debug crap out of it
[4:12] <steve_rox> well that guy suggested it
[4:12] <Tenkawa> and run it through rc.d or systemd if you use that
[4:12] <cehteh> just @reboot cron rule is fine for that
[4:13] <Tenkawa> cehteh: yeah but it adds a seperate dependency
[4:13] <cehteh> of course you can make a init script for that as well, depends on the purpose
[4:13] <Tenkawa> init doesnt need external dependencies (crond running)
[4:14] <Tenkawa> I'm just picky though about that
[4:14] <cehteh> cron is a given on my systems :D
[4:14] <Tenkawa> runnint it through rc.local at boot would do it too
[4:14] <cehteh> but i only use that for things a 'user' wants to be running/installed
[4:14] <cehteh> could be root as well .. but its not for normal services
[4:15] <RoyK> cehteh: which governor is this? cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[4:15] <cehteh> ondemand
[4:15] <Tenkawa> is that ondemand?
[4:15] <Tenkawa> heh guess si
[4:15] <Tenkawa> er so
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[4:16] <RoyK> cehteh: hrmf - seems xbian doesn't support ondemand - my bad :P
[4:16] <cehteh> RoyK: well i dont run the standard kernel
[4:17] <cehteh> ah dunno xbian .. raspbian here
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[4:17] <RoyK> cehteh: need proper kodi support - xbian has that - afaik raspbian doesn't
[4:18] <cehteh> iirc its all defined in the standard kernel as well, at least enabled, maybe the performance governor is default
[4:19] <RoyK> cehteh: which scaling_driver?
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[4:19] <RoyK> cehteh: root@pi2 /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq # cat scaling_available_governors
[4:20] <RoyK> powersave performance
[4:20] <cehteh> haha that sux
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[4:20] <cehteh> i have all governors at least as modules
[4:21] <cehteh> cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors
[4:21] <cehteh> conservative userspace powersave ondemand performance
[4:22] <cehteh> cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/stats/time_in_state
[4:22] <cehteh> 600000 55147
[4:22] <cehteh> 1000000 98186
[4:22] <RoyK> module wasn't loaded...
[4:22] <RoyK> so on ondemand now
[4:22] <RoyK> danke :)
[4:22] <RoyK> but time to try some more sleep
[4:22] <cehteh> nacht :D
[4:23] <cehteh> btw what resets laptop_mode to 0 in the boot process, i havent figured that out yet
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[5:05] <RoBo_V> guys this works with Rpi
[5:05] <RoBo_V> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Arrival-Wifi-Antenna-150-Mbps-USB-Wi-Fi-Adapter-WI-Fi-Dongle-Daydaymall-Wireless-N/32228348570.htmlhttp://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Arrival-Wifi-Antenna-150-Mbps-USB-Wi-Fi-Adapter-WI-Fi-Dongle-Daydaymall-Wireless-N/32228348570.html
[5:05] <RoBo_V> ^^err: double link posted
[5:06] <cehteh> it does?
[5:08] <RoBo_V> I'm asking, it is question. Forgot '?' :)
[5:09] <cehteh> without any information what chipset it has you hardly get any answer
[5:09] <cehteh> looks like cheao trash, no CE prolly no FCC either
[5:10] <RoBo_V> looks similar like this http://www.aliexpress.com/item/-/1935925253.html
[5:10] <cehteh> better google for something which is known to work
[5:11] <cehteh> yes chinaware .. just different packaging, stickers, branding .. sells for the dozen
[5:11] <cehteh> no one knows what it really is
[5:11] <cehteh> http://blog.gsmarena.com/how-do-you-spot-fake-chinese-usb-hard-drives-well-you-take-them-apart/
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[5:22] <niston> lol
[5:23] <niston> I wonder though, it says eSATA on the label
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[5:39] <diegoaguilar> Hello, using python for gpio programming
[5:39] <diegoaguilar> I'm Im expecting to read bits from an ADC
[5:40] <diegoaguilar> should I configure it to pull-up or put-down?
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[6:03] <methuzla> diegoaguilar - what ADC are you using?
[6:03] <diegoaguilar> 0808
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[6:10] <methuzla> is that a TI ADC0808 ?
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[6:18] <methuzla> try niether, assuming the pull-up/down is being taken care of in the 0808
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[6:25] <diegoaguilar> methuzla, I got ADC0804LCN
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[6:25] <gtsnexp> someone experienced with the Geertboard?
[6:26] <gtsnexp> Is it compatible with the new Pi 2?
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[6:29] <methuzla> diegoaguilar i haven't used them, but o
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[6:29] <methuzla> diegoaguilar but same answer - niether pull up or down
[6:30] <diegoaguilar> any?
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[11:44] <thescatman> Is there a way to boot up my pi 2 remotely?
[11:44] <thescatman> It's plugged in, and obviously I'm getting no ssh access to it
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[11:46] <SpeedEvil> Why obviously!
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[11:57] <RoyK> thescatman: no support for wake on lan on the pi
[11:57] <RoyK> thescatman: since that requires native ethernet (not connected to USB as inside the pi) and an ethernet BIOS supporting WoL
[11:58] <thescatman> Damn it. I'm at uni, and I left my pi off lol
[11:58] <thescatman> Want to change some stuff
[11:59] <RoyK> cehteh et al: seems if I use the ondemand governor, it does clock up under load, but it doesn't look like the cpu (or the linux driver) supports individual clock rate for the cores
[12:03] <SpeedEvil> Attempting to powersave by underclocking one or two cores is likely futile
[12:03] <SpeedEvil> The rest of the board and components in the CPU draws too much power to make it very meaningful
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[12:04] <RoyK> makes sense
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[12:19] <qubitnerd> how much does the new pi take on idling
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[12:22] <Lirux> where is the cheapest place to order pi2 with worldwide shipping?
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[12:23] <shiftplusone> depends when in the worldwide, I suppose.
[12:23] <shiftplusone> *where
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[12:27] <qubitnerd> Lirux: seeedstudio has free prices it at 44 usd and free shipping for > 50 usd of purchase
[12:28] <qubitnerd> *seeedstudio prices it at 44 usd
[12:28] <qubitnerd> but why does everybody price the pi2 > pi b+
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[12:28] <shiftplusone> because they want to get rid of the b+es
[12:29] <qubitnerd> ah
[12:29] <ShorTie> foundation lowered the price of the B+'s
[12:29] <qubitnerd> so the prices will drop soon when all the b+'s have been got rid off
[12:29] <Lirux> qubitnerd, I saw some god priced pi2's on ebay from chinese sellers, Does all the pi2 are made in china or uk?
[12:29] <qubitnerd> ^but the sellers arent reflecting it in their prices
[12:30] <shiftplusone> the pi2 is priced at the RRP
[12:30] <qubitnerd> rrp ?
[12:30] <qubitnerd> recommended retail price
[12:30] <shiftplusone> the distributors who have a huge stock of b+s are just trying to get rid of them. That doesn't mean that they will drop the pi 2 price when they do.
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[12:32] <qubitnerd> element14 however sells the b2 at the same price that i bought my original b for
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[12:37] <qubitnerd> shiftplusone: is there an A2 on the agenda ... (if you are allowed to speak about it)
[12:38] <shiftplusone> Nuh, can't speak about any upcoming hardware at all.
[12:38] <qubitnerd> ah .. okay
[12:38] <shiftplusone> (as a general rule... I'm not saying there is upcoming hardware, heh)
[12:38] <kisak> right, seems the original retailers that were promoted by raspberry pi (org) are not playing silly games with the price
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[12:39] <Armand> shiftplusone: "I cannot confirm nor deny...."
[12:39] <qubitnerd> lol .. theve got you trained to not leave any room for interpretations eh
[12:40] <ShorTie> heck, Eben does that
[12:40] <qubitnerd> anyways ... i dont work for arstechnica or cnet or soemthing :P
[12:42] <shiftplusone> >.>
[12:42] <shiftplusone> <.<
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[12:44] <kisak> because affiliation matters somehow?
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[12:46] <qubitnerd> no because journalist are known to make the kind of interpretations that he cleared earlier
[12:46] <qubitnerd> :P
[12:47] * ShorTie just hopes there is a rpi3 in the near future to put the competition to bed once and for all like the original pi did, at least for awhile that is
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[12:54] * canton7 loves the fact that there is so much competition. The hardware you can get nowadays simply didn't exist a few years ago, before the rpi came along
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[12:56] <thescatman> ShorTie, competition is good :D
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[12:56] <ShorTie> that is just simple computer evolution, what will be out next year simple didn't exist last year
[12:57] <canton7> yeah, but it's driven by competition. People weren't bothering to make cheap low-power compact hardware before, because no-one else was. You had to buy the expensive hardware instead
[12:57] <ShorTie> yes it is
[12:57] <shiftplusone> I think trying to win on specs and price alone won't work. Anything the foundation makes can be copied with cheaper components, cheaper labour, less QA and a different SoC. Instead, the foundation's education goals, community focus and support seems to be what differentiate it from the others.
[12:57] <canton7> the rpi has a community unlike anything else out there
[12:58] <shiftplusone> others are growing as well though
[12:58] <ShorTie> thats living on a name, which only works for so long, imho
[13:01] <shiftplusone> No argument there. I don't think anybody is planning to sail on past success.
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[13:04] <shiftplusone> Hmm... wonder why gcc avr compiles i++ to subi r24, 0xFF rather than inc r24.
[13:05] <shiftplusone> seems to take 1 clock cycle either way O_o
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[13:07] <ali1234> shiftplusone: there's a large thread about it on the mailing list
[13:08] <ali1234> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/avr-gcc-list/2008-11/msg00029.html
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[13:11] <shiftplusone> Either I fail an comprehension or there's no answer there. It is a bit of a meaningless question though, so I guess that's what you'd expect.
[13:11] <ali1234> it's a half answer
[13:14] <btcNeverSleeps> If I want to use a Pi 2 hooked to a stereo to play mp3s, which distro should I install and is there anything I need to buy in addition to the Pi 2? (like an USB soundcard?)
[13:14] <btcNeverSleeps> (btw hooked to the TV too + keyboard/mouse, so it doesn't need to be headless)
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[13:15] <ShorTie> 'USB soundcard' would be determined by the quality of the sound you want i believe
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[13:16] <btcNeverSleeps> ShorTie: ok but without any, does the Pi 2 already have audio output?
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[13:17] <ShorTie> yes, but it needs amplifacation which your stereo should provide
[13:18] <btcNeverSleeps> Ah cool! (yup, I've got an amp)
[13:18] <ShorTie> get a 3.5mm adapter and you should be able to hook right up to your stereo
[13:19] <btcNeverSleeps> ah perfect, I already have that!
[13:19] <btcNeverSleeps> And which distro can I use where audio works right out of the box? Raspbian?
[13:19] <ShorTie> make sure connections are right, there is no standard for them
[13:19] <btcNeverSleeps> ah, what do you mean?
[13:20] <ShorTie> yes, raspbian should work like out of the box
[13:20] <btcNeverSleeps> (btw I'm familiar with the Pi 1: I installed one with Raspbian / FreePBX as a VoIP "server" for a few SIP phones)
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[13:20] <ShorTie> which wires are connected to which terminal of the plug is not standardized
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[13:21] <btcNeverSleeps> but there's only one 3.5mm jack on the Pi 2 right?
[13:21] <ShorTie> correct
[13:21] <ShorTie> http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2014/07/raspberry-pi-model-b-3-5mm-audiovideo-jack/
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[13:22] <btcNeverSleeps> ShorTie: oooh, gotcha, I see what you mean! Thanks a lot, this is precisely the kind of info I was after ^ ^
[13:22] <ShorTie> Your Welcome
[13:22] <ShorTie> No Problem
[13:24] <btcNeverSleeps> I've also got a "DAC Magic" from Cambridge Audio and I think it can be made to work with the Pi (the DAC has a USB input), but first I'd like to simply have the Pi working "as is". Or I may try later on a DAC specifically compatible with the Pi. But first, make the thing work : )
[13:24] <ShorTie> the wolfson sound hat is preaty good from what i hear
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[13:26] <btcNeverSleeps> (saving notes) ; )
[13:27] <pksato> to play sound, you need a new "Sony Low Noise Audiophile SDXC Memory Card" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO-vbzLPwSc
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[13:27] <btcNeverSleeps> pksato: when I read "audiophile", I'm scared about the price ^ ^
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[13:28] <ShorTie> maybe http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6TJ2CT7755&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC-_-pla-_-Sensors+%26+Transducers-_-9SIA6TJ2CT7755&gclid=CL2KqLaXjMQCFUlk7AodOBgAhg&gclsrc=aw.ds
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[13:30] <btcNeverSleeps> I'll first start with a bare Pi 2 and try to find a 3.5mm cable which works...
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[13:42] <btcNeverSleeps> If I take a cable with a 3.5mm jack on one side and three (yellow, white, red) plugs on the other, do I risk damaging the Pi or my amp trying the three possibilities? (ignoring the left / right issue which I can sort later on)
[13:43] <btcNeverSleeps> <-- coding since more than 20 years but ashame to admit I know next to nothing about electricity
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[13:53] <SpeedEvil> btcNeverSleeps: no
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[14:04] <ahop> Hi!
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[14:05] <ahop> I'm working on a hardware sampler project
[14:05] <ahop> that would need to be able to load 500MB of samples in memory from a 32GB SD card
[14:05] <ahop> and allow some audio playback...
[14:06] <ahop> Do you think this could work with a Raspberry?
[14:06] <MY123> ahop: RPi2 mini
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[14:08] <ahop> MY123 is it the evolution of the model B?
[14:08] <MY123> ahop, Evolution of the B+
[14:08] <MY123> Anyway, I have to go now
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[14:28] <ahop> are there 2 versions : Rpi 2 / Rpi 2 mini ?
[14:29] <shiftplusone> ahop, no, there's no such thing as an rpi 2 mini.
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[14:32] <ahop> shiftplusone: do you mean this one : http://www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-2-model-b/ ?
[14:32] <ahop> It's called "Raspberry Pi 2 Model B" ?
[14:32] <ahop> (I asked the question because MY123 said RPi2Mini before)
[14:32] <shiftplusone> I don't mean anything, I just wonder what MY123 was on about.
[14:34] <ahop> shiftplusone do you have a Rpi2?
[14:34] <shiftplusone> yes sir
[14:34] <ahop> I only have a Rpi1 B, but the sound quality was not so good
[14:34] <ahop> If I remember well this was 12bit instead of 16bit
[14:34] <ahop> is it improved on RPi 2?
[14:34] <shiftplusone> I believe it was improved on a B+, which is the same circuitry as on a pi2, but I don't know how much.
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[14:41] <ahop> What's the limit for the µSD card?
[14:41] <ahop> 32GB is ok?
[14:42] <shiftplusone> no limit, as long as the card itself isn't too exotic.
[14:43] <ahop> ok
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[14:45] <ahop> shiftplusone are you in europe?
[14:46] <ahop> wher's cheapest to buy RPi2 in France / europe ?
[14:46] <shiftplusone> no idea. I think the cheapest place in UK might be amazon or cpc.farnell
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[14:57] <ahop> What's the most powerful Rpi available nowadays
[14:57] <ahop> RPi 2? or is there a special version, with more CPU or RAM or
[14:57] <shiftplusone> pi 2 b (the one you linked)
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[15:03] <ahop> ok
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[15:05] <ahop> shiftplusone are Rpi2 already available and shipping? I can't find in France/Europe : everywhere: delay 2 weeks
[15:05] <shiftplusone> yeah, check other distributors.
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[15:12] <ahop> ok I just ordered
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[15:22] <g105b> Does the Raspberry Pi 2 have any analogue inputs?
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[15:24] <Tenkawa_> hi all
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[15:26] <shiftplusone> g105b, nope
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[15:26] <shiftplusone> Tenkawa_, ahoy
[15:27] <Tenkawa_> whats new?
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[15:27] <Tenkawa_> wow my ccache is getting huge
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[15:28] <ahop> can I plug a SD card reader to one of the USB ?
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[15:30] <Tenkawa_> ahop: sure
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[15:39] <paxcoder> I'm sshing into my install, and trying to upgrade it, but it freezes each time. This time it's stuck at "Reading package lists... 96%" (apt-get update), and not accepting any input - ie I can't even press enter to make a newline, the terminal is completely unresponsive.
[15:39] <paxcoder> Any ideas?
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[15:40] <muriani> paxcoder: my first thoughts are sdcard or insufficient power
[15:40] <paxcoder> Oh and I'm getting "no route to host" until I reset it by pulling the plug.
[15:41] <shiftplusone> paxcoder, sounds familiar. Which sd card is it?
[15:41] <shiftplusone> and also check your voltages
[15:41] <muriani> huh, so network drops
[15:41] <muriani> yeah, sounds more like power to me. Are you on wifi?
[15:41] <muriani> oh, no, wired you just said
[15:41] <paxcoder> nomis, cable
[15:41] <muriani> hm
[15:41] <paxcoder> I'm using some cellphone charger.
[15:41] <Ryccardo> are the network lights alwayso n?
[15:41] <paxcoder> Yes
[15:41] <muriani> what's the output on that charger?
[15:41] <paxcoder> Though 1 I think is blinking
[15:42] <paxcoder> (of the four)
[15:42] <Ryccardo> hmmm, ethernet is the first thing to go when power is low
[15:42] <paxcoder> muriani, wouldn't know
[15:42] <Ryccardo> is it an Apple?
[15:42] <paxcoder> no
[15:42] <paxcoder> Sec, let me see what I can find out.
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[15:43] <muriani> I seem to be able to power it well on 700mA (at least that's what the charger claims)
[15:43] <muriani> although I'm also plugged into a lapdock for display/input, so I might be getting more power there backfed through the USB connection
[15:43] <ahop> Can we power RPi2 with battery?
[15:44] <ahop> example : 6x NiMh batteries AA
[15:44] <Ryccardo> yeah, 0,7A should be enough, but some chargers cheat and advertise peak output or made up numbers
[15:44] <shiftplusone> ahop, yes, but you'll want a regulator on there.
[15:44] <ahop> how long would it last with normal CPU usage?
[15:44] <shiftplusone> depends
[15:44] <Ryccardo> ahop: sure, with those AA to USB things (Mintyboost, etc)
[15:44] <paxcoder> It's a Transcend 8GB micro SD, and an Alcatel charger 5V 400 mA
[15:45] <Ryccardo> aha!
[15:45] <muriani> paxcoder: power's your problem
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[15:45] <muriani> 400mA is definitely not enough
[15:45] <Ryccardo> ahop: many are not designed with efficiency as a priority
[15:45] <paxcoder> What's the lower bound?
[15:45] <ahop> Do you think 10 hours would work ?
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[15:45] <muriani> I wouldn't go any lower than 700mA for safety
[15:45] <ahop> with 6x AA ?
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[15:46] <paxcoder> Alright, thanks for the help
[15:46] <Ryccardo> there are AAs of wildly varying capacities, but I would believe (no maths done) 10 hours is way unrealisitc
[15:46] <muriani> ahop: depends on the mAh rating of the batteries, and the regulator being used
[15:47] <muriani> adafruit has a boost converter that looks decent, I've been thinking about grabbing one for use with a LiPo
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[15:48] <muriani> https://www.adafruit.com/product/1903
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[15:48] <muriani> I'd get the 1000 myself, it'll push a bit more current
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[15:49] <muriani> https://www.adafruit.com/products/2030
[15:49] <muriani> either one of those would get you on the path though
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[15:56] <diegoaguilar> Hello, can use those SPI or I2C pins in gpio as normal inputs/outpus while they're not set up to implement such protocols?
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[15:56] <shiftplusone> diegoaguilar, yes
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[15:59] <SpeedEvil> https://40.media.tumblr.com/11f925fe456999fe6d747f7f475a6b28/tumblr_nklxb59vlk1tcjwl9o1_540.jpg
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[16:04] <diegoaguilar> thanks shiftplusone
[16:04] <diegoaguilar> lol SpeedEvil
[16:04] <diegoaguilar> :P
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[16:36] <Bilby> Woo, that was a nice week of vacation
[16:37] <Bilby> and I came back to work to an immediate change in workflow, eliminating any capability to actually do my job
[16:37] <Bilby> 10:30 AM? Looks like whiskey o'clock to me...
[16:37] <IT_Sean> Bilby: I would really hate to have to murder you this morning, so, I am going to assume you did not just mention "vacation", mm'kay.
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[16:38] <Bilby> IT_Sean scheduled 3 months ahead, had no money available to do anything so i stayed home. next vac availability is 3.5 - 4 months
[16:38] <Lope> is it possible to run windows7 in qemu on a RbPi?
[16:38] <Bilby> I sppent half of my week "off" working for my personal clients. siiiiiiish
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[16:39] <Bilby> Lope I would think not... processing overhead there is pretty massive
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[16:39] * Bilby did spend part of the time working on the ESP8266 Wifi chip though!
[16:39] <Bilby> I got it working on my Pi, though not to any functional extend
[16:39] <Bilby> *extent
[16:39] <IT_Sean> Lope: I doubt it. But a Pi2 can do the ARM version of Windows 8!
[16:40] <shiftplusone> IT_Sean!
[16:40] <shiftplusone> Where are you getting your information from?
[16:40] <Tenkawa_> IT_Sean: how does one "get" the arm version of 8 though
[16:40] <muriani> Is there a downloadable BSP somewhere?
[16:40] <IT_Sean> um... Win 8 has been annouanced for the Pi, hasn't it?
[16:40] <muriani> win10
[16:40] <Tenkawa_> no
[16:40] <Tenkawa_> 10
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[16:40] <shiftplusone> win 10... IoT
[16:40] <muriani> and it's IoT, right
[16:40] <Bilby> hahaha
[16:40] <Lope> IT_Sean: yeah, I know about the Arm version of W8. I want to run the x64 version of W7 though.
[16:40] <shiftplusone> so... not even close >_<
[16:41] <muriani> so no desktop, etc
[16:41] <IT_Sean> Oh, Win 10, sorry.
[16:41] <Bilby> it sounds like you're insulting him. You IoT!
[16:41] <IT_Sean> Jeez.
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[16:41] <Tenkawa_> and I havent seen an image/alpha/beta for that yet
[16:41] <IT_Sean> I'm on, like, zero sleep today. Cut me a little slack :p
[16:41] <Tenkawa_> soon as I do I'm testing it
[16:41] <IT_Sean> I meant Win 10. My apologies, everyone.
[16:41] * IT_Sean pokes shiftplusone
[16:41] * shiftplusone puts IT_Sean in the noob pile.
[16:41] <Lope> okiedokey so I'm better off running W7 x64 with an Atom.
[16:42] <ShorTie> W8 not worth the code it's made out of
[16:42] <Tenkawa_> IT_Sean: i dont think anyone minds :)
[16:42] <Lope> in KVM.
[16:42] <diegoaguilar> whats difference in using wither a 4 pins push button or a 2 pins one?
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[16:44] <mortal> very nice. put 2 usb sticks on raid0 and getting 7 MB/s write 43 MB/s read
[16:44] <Bilby> Lope sounds like
[16:44] <Bilby> the current crop of low-power boards are still pretty swift with decent ram and an SSD especially
[16:44] <Bilby> diegoaguilar - it depends on the button
[16:45] <diegoaguilar> like for example I want to do this push button and raspberry pi test
[16:45] <diegoaguilar> http://razzpisampler.oreilly.com/ch07.html
[16:45] <Bilby> 4 pins could be DPST or SPDT + dummy pin
[16:45] <diegoaguilar> I got a single 2 pins push button�
[16:45] * strobelight asks to be let back in
[16:46] <Bilby> ah, so your button just has 2 pins right?
[16:46] * IT_Sean lets strobelight back in, but takes his coffee and pours it down the sink.
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[16:47] * strobelight dang
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[16:49] <diegoaguilar> right Bilby
[16:49] <diegoaguilar> I dont even they have polarity
[16:49] <diegoaguilar> do they ...
[16:49] <IT_Sean> vile beanfluid.
[16:49] * IT_Sean gives strobelight a cuppa tea
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[16:50] <Bilby> diegoaguilar it will work exactly as the example does
[16:50] <Tenkawa_> green or oolong sounds really good right now
[16:50] <Bilby> and no, no polarity
[16:50] * yohnnyjoe is heating up some water for tea right now
[16:51] <diegoaguilar> thanks Bilby
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[16:53] <diegoaguilar> damn .... Im having some mcblk0 errors
[16:53] <Bilby> You're welcome :)
[16:53] <diegoaguilar> at bootup
[16:53] <Tenkawa_> diegoaguilar: ouch
[16:53] <Tenkawa_> card going bad?
[16:54] <Tenkawa_> reseated it?
[16:54] <Tenkawa_> (after a shutdown of course)
[16:54] <thescatman> hi I'm having trouble following this...
[16:55] <thescatman> http://blog.petrockblock.com/forums/topic/changing-the-splash-screen/
[16:55] <thescatman> How do I actually copy the image there?
[16:55] <thescatman> it's on my pc
[16:56] <Wazza> thescatman: sftp should do the trick
[16:57] <thescatman> how do I do that through putty?
[16:57] <Tenkawa_> pscp
[16:57] <Tenkawa_> or whategver putty's scp client is nowdays
[16:57] * strobelight accepts the tea, in hopes of not offending the Britts.
[16:57] <Wazza> thescatman: use filezilla
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[16:58] <thescatman> ah I think this might be easier http://www.howtogeek.com/112888/3-ways-to-access-your-linux-partitions-from-windows/
[16:59] <diegoaguilar> Tenkawa_, I got this when trying to boot
[16:59] <diegoaguilar> http://i.imgur.com/QXQu1H6.jpg
[16:59] <diegoaguilar> :/
[16:59] <Bilby> I use filezilla and notepad++ via sftp
[16:59] <yohnnyjoe> not sure about putty, this is the linux cmd: scp /path/to/image pi@10.0.0.10:/where/you/want/file/on/pi
[16:59] <Bilby> super handy
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[17:00] <steve_rox> image corrupt?
[17:00] * shiftplusone sighs
[17:00] <shiftplusone> I hate sd cards
[17:00] <yohnnyjoe> of course change pi if needed and ip address to yours
[17:00] <Tenkawa_> diegoaguilar: no graphica; access atm
[17:00] <thescatman> honestly, I'm not sure what IP and paths would be there
[17:00] <steve_rox> if the image mattered id be running fsck on it
[17:00] <diegoaguilar> hehe well someone can see?
[17:00] <diegoaguilar> http://i.imgur.com/QXQu1H6.jpg
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[17:01] <diegoaguilar> what!? I removed sd card, swiped with my tshirt
[17:01] <diegoaguilar> et voila
[17:01] <steve_rox> lookin at that file name haveing squares and other random stuff i guess heavy corruption
[17:01] <diegoaguilar> it booted up
[17:01] <steve_rox> re image
[17:01] <Wazza> thescatman: have a play with filezilla, it's easier than you'd think.
[17:01] <diegoaguilar> steve_rox, well it booted now ...
[17:01] <thescatman> Wazza, I'll try it, i guess...
[17:01] <steve_rox> i wouldent trust it myself
[17:02] <steve_rox> brb i guess
[17:02] <thescatman> Wazza, do I get the server for my windows pc? then somehow install filezilla on the pi?
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[17:03] <Bilby> thescatman Filezilla is a freeware FTP client for windows
[17:03] <Wazza> thescatman: download filezilla client for your pc, then use the same details you use to ssh to your pi
[17:03] <Bilby> you install and configure sftp on the Pi, and install and configure Filezilla on your computer
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[17:04] <thescatman> I'll put the client on my pc first then
[17:04] <thescatman> then work out how to configure sftp...
[17:05] <Wazza> thescatman: you shouldnt need to configure anything on your pi, just use your root login and password through sftp
[17:05] <Wazza> thescatman: then navigate to /etc/ and upload your splashscreen.png
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[17:06] <Tenkawa_> thescatman: is the image you want on a webserver?
[17:06] <Tenkawa_> if so
[17:07] <thescatman> awesome I connected straight to my pi through filezilla
[17:07] <Tenkawa_> just do a curl -O http://url/imatge.blah
[17:07] <thescatman> the image's on my desktop, splash.png
[17:07] <Tenkawa_> then copy that file
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[17:09] <Bilby> thescatman / Wazza the way i did it was to install vsftpd on the Pi and configure it to host
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[17:09] <thescatman> :\
[17:09] <thescatman> um
[17:09] <Tenkawa_> Bilby: why so much added work?
[17:09] <thescatman> brb
[17:09] <Tenkawa_> Bilby: if sshd is already running thats all you need
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[17:10] <Bilby> Idn... that's just what I did lol. maybe i was looking at the wrong guide
[17:10] <Wazza> Bilby: yup Tenkawa_ is correct :) no need for that
[17:10] <Bilby> eh, it's working
[17:10] <Wazza> Bilby: it would have worked anyway :)
[17:10] <Tenkawa_> it definitely works
[17:10] <Tenkawa_> just added overhead/setup
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[17:11] <Bilby> I may have done it so notepad++ can connect directly as well
[17:12] <Bilby> I don't recall the why, build log just lists the what lol
[17:12] <Tenkawa_> heheheh
[17:12] * Bilby logs what steps he takes when he's building servers / systems
[17:13] <Bilby> which has saved my bacon so many times
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[17:17] <thescatman> I can't seem to find the /etc/ folder
[17:18] <Tenkawa_> define cant find
[17:18] <Tenkawa_> whats the highest level up you can?
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[17:18] <thescatman> using filezilla I can't see the folder "etc" on the pi..
[17:19] <thescatman> highest level?
[17:19] <Tenkawa_> what do you see?
[17:20] <Tenkawa_> if you go up directories?
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[17:20] <thescatman> well there's / , and home/ and pi
[17:20] <thescatman> home* not home/
[17:20] <Wazza> thescatman: are you logged in as root?
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[17:20] <Tenkawa_> that sounds like the ftp config is set to chroot
[17:20] <thescatman> Not sure how I'd become root with filezilla
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[17:21] <thescatman> http://blog.petrockblock.com/forums/topic/changing-the-splash-screen/
[17:22] <thescatman> umm
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[17:23] <thescatman> Could I copy the file into the roms folder on my pi... and then somehow use a command to move it to the /etc/bit?
[17:23] <Tenkawa_> sure
[17:23] <Tenkawa_> if you can upload it there then you just need to login to the pi and do:
[17:24] <thescatman> ok, it's on the pi now
[17:24] <thescatman> in the roms folder
[17:24] <Tenkawa_> sudo cp -i "source" "destination"
[17:24] <thescatman> is cp copy?
[17:24] <Tenkawa_> -i so you get prompted to overwrite just in case
[17:24] <Tenkawa_> yes
[17:25] <thescatman> so...
[17:25] <thescatman> sudo cp -i splashscreen.png /etc/splashscreen.ping
[17:25] <thescatman> ?
[17:25] <Tenkawa_> yep
[17:25] <thescatman> cool.
[17:25] <Tenkawa_> from the roms dir
[17:26] <Tenkawa_> or you need to put the source full path
[17:26] <Tenkawa_> or cd to that dir
[17:26] <thescatman> I don't know what the full path is
[17:26] <thescatman> /roms/ maybe
[17:26] <Tenkawa_> find / -type f -name "thatfile.png"
[17:26] <Tenkawa_> whatever you called it
[17:26] <Tenkawa_> where i have thatfile....
[17:27] <Tenkawa_> find it?
[17:27] <thescatman> aha found it
[17:27] <Tenkawa_> so cp -i thatpath /etc/sp......
[17:27] <thescatman> /home/pi/retropie/roms/spashetc
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[17:27] <thescatman> cool.
[17:28] <yohnnyjoe> Tenkawa: why use cp instead of mv? just wondering
[17:28] <Tenkawa_> then it should work
[17:28] <Tenkawa_> yohnnyjoe: I just prefer to keep the copy just in case I want to use it again
[17:28] <Tenkawa_> its always easy to rm it when done
[17:28] <yohnnyjoe> makes sense
[17:28] <Tenkawa_> vs mv it and then need it more than once and try to find it
[17:29] <thescatman> :/
[17:29] <hinv> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRyucaSzkfk
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[17:29] <thescatman> cp: cannot stat blablabla: no such file or directory ...
[17:29] <Tenkawa_> thescatman: good/bad/ugly?
[17:29] <thescatman> Oh, does capitalisation matter?
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[17:29] <thescatman> of directory
[17:29] <Tenkawa_> yes!!!
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[17:30] <Tenkawa_> all case sensitivity matters in unix/linux
[17:30] <thescatman> ah ok
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[17:30] <thescatman> I think it did it
[17:30] <thescatman> just went onto next line
[17:30] <strobelight> haven't tried myself with the pi, but you could also use sshfs to the pi, and always have its directory structure available.
[17:30] <Tenkawa_> some filesystems dont support case sensitivity however in general keep the case sensitivity consistent
[17:30] <Tenkawa_> strobelight: meh
[17:31] <Tenkawa_> strobelight: too dependent on connectivity
[17:31] <thescatman> well that's weird. It didn't change the image.
[17:31] <strobelight> makes sense if pi networking flaky or going up/down
[17:31] <Tenkawa_> strobelight: file locking, lag, etc can make it interesting
[17:32] <Tenkawa_> thescatman: did you re-init whatever process uses it
[17:32] <thescatman> I restarted the pi
[17:32] <Tenkawa_> and confirm the file is there
[17:32] <Tenkawa_> ls -lad /etc/pathtoimage
[17:32] <Tenkawa_> make sure it matches what you expect to see
[17:32] <Tenkawa_> size, date,etc
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[17:34] <Tenkawa_> thescatman: verfified?
[17:34] <thescatman> did ls -lad /etc/splashscreen.png
[17:34] <thescatman> it came out with:
[17:34] <thescatman> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 33423 mar 3 time /etc/splashscreen.png(in pink)
[17:35] <thescatman> I checked, the size is right
[17:35] <Tenkawa_> ok
[17:35] <Tenkawa_> what uses this image?
[17:35] <thescatman> apparently the RetroPie setup Script?
[17:35] <Tenkawa_> make sure its compatible with it
[17:35] <Tenkawa_> \
[17:35] <Tenkawa_> (format/res)
[17:36] <Tenkawa_> let me check something too
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[17:36] <strobelight> was "transfer in binary" mentioned?
[17:36] <thescatman> when?
[17:37] <thescatman> I didn't see anything about that
[17:37] <Tenkawa_> strobelight: good point too
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[17:38] <strobelight> ftp can transfer in ascii or binary, not sure what the default is for png files
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[17:38] <thescatman> I'd go into the gui but it doesn't let you do that with the new retropie
[17:38] <Tenkawa_> ahhh haaa!!!!
[17:38] <thescatman> I dragged and dropped the .png from my windows desktop to my pi's ROMS folder
[17:38] <thescatman> Tenkawa_, sounds promising
[17:39] <Tenkawa_> thescatman: do you have a /home/pi/RetroPie-Setup/supplementary/splashscreens directory
[17:39] <thescatman> how do I see that again? :/
[17:39] <willmore> Hmm, there isn't even a pi 2 in the first page of NewEggs search engine any more. That's not good.
[17:39] <Tenkawa_> from what I'm reading this changed recently
[17:39] <thescatman> Ahh
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[17:39] <Tenkawa_> thescatman: ls -l /thatpath
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[17:40] <Tenkawa_> I'll brb.. need to test a reboot..
[17:40] <Tenkawa_> brb
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[17:40] <thescatman> Yes! apparently I do have that
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[17:42] <Tenkawa_> back
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[17:43] <thescatman> so I'd need to copy the image to that directory?
[17:44] <Tenkawa_> I think so
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[17:45] <thescatman> I've heard of that directory though, I think there's a way I need to actually change what one it pulls up each time it loads
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[17:46] <Tenkawa_> brb again
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[17:57] <Tenkawa_> did I miss anything
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[17:58] <shiftplusone> everything
[17:58] <Bilby> bill gates and linus torvolds came in and had an impromptu rap battle
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[17:58] <shiftplusone> everyone pack up and go home... all the things have already happened
[17:58] <Tenkawa_> Bilby: now that would be funy
[17:59] <Tenkawa_> er funny
[17:59] <shiftplusone> funny? I think it would very awkward for everyone involved.
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[18:06] <Tenkawa_> thescatman: any luck?
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[18:06] <thescatman> not really, but I'm trying to cook at the same time
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[18:07] <willmore> If the universe is deterministic, then, everything has already effectively happened.
[18:08] <ozzzy_> good thing it isn't
[18:08] <willmore> prove it. :)
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[18:08] <shiftplusone> he already has
[18:08] <ozzzy_> I'm doing a talk on that at the next meeting of the time travellers society which meets last thursday
[18:08] <shiftplusone> wait a minute...
[18:09] <willmore> It was last thursday, but that doesn't really matter.
[18:09] <thescatman> time traveller's society..?
[18:09] <RaTTuS|BIG> http://uk.rs-online.com/web/generalDisplay.html?id=promotions/topsellers
[18:10] <thescatman> Wow, bback ordered for a month and a half
[18:10] <willmore> All I need is to fly to the UK...
[18:10] * IT_Sean goes back in time, orders one fore anyone else, comes back with it
[18:10] <willmore> You forgot to ship them in the past, too, IT_Sean!
[18:11] <IT_Sean> willmore: that step goes without saying
[18:11] * willmore checks the mailbox
[18:11] <RaTTuS|BIG> well they seem to ship then in a few days TBH - but i wonder how many have been sold
[18:11] <thescatman> Guess I was lucky to pick mine up within the first couple of hours
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[18:12] <ozzzy_> I got two from element14... they shipped in a couple days
[18:12] <MY123> RaTTuS|BIG: At this speed, 800K
[18:12] <RaTTuS|BIG> ;-p
[18:12] <MY123> (if it continued like the first two week)
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[18:12] <MY123> *s
[18:13] <MY123> *continues
[18:13] <RaTTuS|BIG> I think it probably has
[18:15] <MY123> RaTTuS|BIG: The Pi still solds less than iPads
[18:15] <MY123> []<--
[18:15] <RaTTuS|BIG> I have more pi than ipads
[18:15] * ozzzy_ wouldn't waste money on an ipad
[18:16] <MY123> RaTTuS|BIG, also me, but I have 0 iPads :-)
[18:16] <MY123> (and three RPis)
[18:16] <Bilby> If i was going to buy an ipad, i would just buy a surface
[18:17] <Bilby> since it's essentially the same price and size and is, you know, a computer
[18:17] <MY123> Bilby: I prefered buying an A20 tablet from a reputable brand
[18:17] <MY123> (and I wrote a page about it on linux-sunxi)
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[18:18] <MY123> with an u-boot and SPL port
[18:19] <ozzzy_> tablets aren't much use
[18:19] <ozzzy_> reading things and watching vids
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[18:20] <MY123> ozzzy_: I'm posting this from Debian on this tablet with an external keyboard
[18:20] <MY123> (it also has an microHDMI port)
[18:20] <MY123> using XChat
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[18:20] <Bilby> MY123 neat. I picked up a samsung (i htink) tablet for my mother for christmas. she loves it
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[18:21] <Bilby> spent ~ 5 minutes explaining the android OS concept and she's been fine. of course, she was a programmer for 20+ years...
[18:21] <MY123> Bilby: It is a good tablet running without blobs
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[18:21] <MY123> ( I erased Android from the NAND the first day)
[18:21] * ozzzy_ has a tablet.... it's not as good as a Kobo for reading stuff and not as good as a desktop for watching stuff and doesn't do much else
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[18:22] <MY123> ozzzy_, mine is also a laptop
[18:23] <MY123> (when you have a connect base keyboard for 7inch tabs with touchpad)
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[18:23] <ozzzy_> yeah... I have one of them
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[18:23] <ozzzy_> tablet, netbook, notebook, desktop
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[18:23] <ozzzy_> and the 12v mini'puter
[18:24] <MY123> ozzzy_, of course running Android makes it bad
[18:25] <ozzzy_> yeah... android is just a toy for me
[18:25] <MY123> ozzzy_, I'm running Debian with Gnome3
[18:25] <ozzzy_> I can't run linux on my main machines
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[18:25] <MY123> (much more adapted for touch)
[18:25] <ozzzy_> which is why I jumped from linux back to windows
[18:25] <MY123> ozzzy_, why?
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[18:26] <ozzzy_> no hardware/software support for what I do
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[18:31] <willmore> Ahhhhh!!!! I tried to use element14 to buy a pi2, but it sent me to Newark and their web site is a horrowshow!
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[18:32] <willmore> Web site: "give us your CC info!" Me: "why?" site: "To charge you for your order." Me: "You haven't even told me how much my order costs. no CC for you!"
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[18:33] <willmore> It asks if my account is personal or business. I chose business. Later it asks *manditory field* what my business name is.
[18:33] <ozzzy_> well... you told it 'business' LOL
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[18:37] <Armand> We only care about business or personal when it comes to domain purchases, as it makes a difference in some cases.. Otherwise we don't care. :P
[18:37] <willmore> Oh, typed that wrong, sorry. Said 'personal'.
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[18:38] <Armand> We produce VAT invoices for all clients, so it doesn't make a difference to us for accounting purposes.
[18:38] <willmore> Armand, not sure what you're refering to, but this is for a US purchase from a US company. Not much to do with VAT.
[18:39] <Armand> "Sales tax"
[18:39] <Armand> Same thing.
[18:39] <willmore> Armand, who is 'we'?
[18:40] <Armand> The company I work for.
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[18:45] <willmore> ozzzy_, are you in NA? I'm curious what chunk of element14 fulfilled your order.
[18:46] <ozzzy_> newark.ca
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[18:46] <muriani> I bought mine from MCM
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[18:47] <willmore> muriani, Yeah, they want $10 for one and $16 for two. That's pretty high shipping costs.
[18:47] <willmore> ozzzy_, ahh, okay. Who fulfills for them in Canada?
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[18:47] <muriani> t'was the best I could get, everyone else was out
[18:47] <ozzzy_> I dunno... I just click 'buy' and they come in the post
[18:47] <muriani> I'm in the US though, shipping from here to CA is kind of dumb
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[18:48] <willmore> muriani, I hear you! Finding a lot of that.
[18:49] <willmore> MCM is one state away. If I could find some other excuse to drive over there. :)
[18:49] <ozzzy_> it appears to have come from Greer, SC
[18:49] <Bilby> Element14's website is design gore, for sure
[18:50] <IT_Sean> Had I known, I'd have stolen it!
[18:50] <IT_Sean> ozzzy_: ^
[18:50] <willmore> Bilby, the really ugly part is the newark website that it sends US customers to. *shudder*
[18:51] <willmore> I can't seem to find any way to determine shipping costs from element14/newark.
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[18:58] <willmore> Looks like the supply/demand for pi2 boards is still crazily on the side of demand >>> supply. I'll just wait another month and try again. If the USPS is to be believed, I'll have a C1 to keep me occupied until then. :)
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[19:40] <Tenkawa_> hi all
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[19:43] <Tenkawa_> thescatman: any luck?
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[20:20] <muriani> Ok, so the pi2 runs for about 5 hours on an Atrix Lapdock battery
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[20:20] <muriani> most of the time spent compiing with -j3 and with the screen on max brightness
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[20:30] <Tenkawa_> Anyone build a lcd panel + keyboard onto one of the new rpi2's yet as a not quite laptop/notebook
[20:30] <Tenkawa_> ?
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[20:31] <MY123> There is clearly a new VideoCore coming
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[20:33] <Tenkawa_> oh?
[20:33] <Tenkawa_> MY123: what indications of that is there?
[20:33] <Tenkawa_> that will be pretty darn cool
[20:33] <MY123> Tenkawa_: Vulkan will have a Broadcom implementation
[20:34] <MY123> (and as the current V3D is too limited, then ...)
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[20:35] <Tenkawa_> ahhh
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[20:36] <MY123> Tenkawa_: I hope that the Pi3 will come soon :-)
[20:37] <ozzzy_> what do you want a pi3 to be
[20:37] <Tenkawa_> brb.... i may havw figured out something finally Ive been trying to fix
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[20:38] <MY123> ozzzy_: a newer GPU
[20:38] <kisak> yeah, you can't magically get GLES3.1 out of GLES2 hardware
[20:38] <MY123> kisak: And as they are preparing Vulkan
[20:38] <MY123> ...
[20:39] <ozzzy_> having never used the gpu... is there a problem with it?
[20:39] <MY123> ozzzy_, no 3D textures and a few other HW limits
[20:39] <MY123> (no culling,...)
[20:39] * ShorTie thinkz, oter then old and anaquated
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[20:40] <shiftplusone> Hm? The pi's GPU is still holding up fine O_o
[20:40] <kisak> ozzzy_: no real problem, it's just not feature-ful enough for next generation stuff
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[20:41] <MY123> shiftplusone: Broadcom is preparing a Vulkan GPU...
[20:41] <MY123> (and GLES 3.1 capable)
[20:42] <MY123> PowerVR already demonstrated Vulcan samples
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[20:42] <shiftplusone> Well, in the past, you've been known to pull (wrong) information out of nowhere, so I'll take that with a pound of salt.
[20:43] <MY123> shiftplusone, Broadcom is a member of the Vulcan constorium....
[20:43] <MY123> shiftplusone, they may leave it for future
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[20:45] <MY123> Maybe that's the 2018 remix
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[20:46] <MY123> As they laid of a bunch of engineers,...
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[20:47] <Tenkawa_> who did?
[20:47] * Tenkawa_ missed the early part
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[20:56] <acidjazz> hey all.. the raspberry pi gpio cable is 40 pins. can i use like.. ide cables? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005IQWH98/ref=pd_luc_rh_sim_01_03_t_img_lh?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[20:57] <MY123> Tenkawa_:the BCM CEO, 3000 engineers
[20:58] <Tenkawa_> oh wow
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[21:13] <paxcoder> Hey. Previously I was getting "no route to host" which went away after I switched from the insufficient USB cell charger like muriani et al suggested. Now I'm connected the rpi to a PC, and compiling EmulatorStation froze at 83% for the second time. It doesn't appear to be the same problem this time, as there is a route, however the connection hangs.
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[21:15] <paxcoder> I don't know what this could be except running out of memory, but I had 4GB free last time I checked (during compilation). Help?
[21:15] <Tenkawa_> paxcoder: whats wrong?
[21:16] <muriani> I assume you mean storage, since the pi2 has only 1GB ram
[21:16] <thescatman> Tenkawa_, no luck yet, just got back onto pc
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[21:16] <Tenkawa_> thescatman: hmmm
[21:16] <thescatman> rusty now haha
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[21:16] <Tenkawa_> thescatman: is there any kind of log for it?
[21:16] <Tenkawa_> I havent used that setup
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[21:17] <thescatman> I assume you're not talking to me?
[21:17] <Tenkawa_> what is retropi's emphass btw?
[21:17] <Tenkawa_> thescatman: actually yes I was
[21:17] <paxcoder> Tenkawa_, It's absolutely unresponsive.
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[21:17] <Tenkawa_> paxcoder: even at the console or just remotely?
[21:18] <paxcoder> Actually, it pongs.
[21:18] <paxcoder> I can't connect though
[21:18] <Tenkawa_> which error?
[21:18] <paxcoder> No error, unresponsive.
[21:18] <thescatman> Tenkawa_, log for what?
[21:18] <paxcoder> hanging
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[21:18] <Tenkawa_> thescatman: that piece of retropi software that would try to load the screenshot
[21:18] <thescatman> ah
[21:18] <thescatman> I have no idea :/
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[21:19] <paxcoder> Tenkawa_, ^
[21:19] <Tenkawa_> I'll brb.. switchingcomputers
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[21:25] <paxcoder> Hmm. I just got some feedback. My old session printed out the prompt. It really looks like low memory to me.
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[21:27] <Tenkawa_> ugh I hate short power cables
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[21:27] <muriani> paxcoder: you're doing this via retropie script right?
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[21:28] <paxcoder> muriani, no
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[21:28] <paxcoder> muriani, ES instructions for manual install
[21:28] <muriani> oh
[21:29] <muriani> dunno then honestly
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[21:29] <muriani> I'm using retropie
[21:29] <muriani> or trying to, anyway
[21:29] <Tenkawa_> paxcoder: how long does it run before it becomes non responsive?
[21:29] <paxcoder> I dd'd the retropie image onto rpi and I got no partitions afterwards.
[21:30] <aberrant> anyone try installing gnuradio on an rpi2?
[21:30] <paxcoder> I verified the checksum in my torrent client beforehand.
[21:30] <Tenkawa_> paxcoder: you dd'ed it to a card?
[21:30] <paxcoder> Tenkawa_, up to 83%, and something like that the time before (maybe the same)
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[21:31] <Tenkawa_> what was your dd command?
[21:31] <paxcoder> But I said above I got a response from the rpi, the other session I had opened printed a prompt
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[21:31] <paxcoder> It's unusable, but it's proof that it was trying to work
[21:31] <paxcoder> Tenkawa_, yes
[21:31] <paxcoder> Same as for raspian, just with retropi's image
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[21:32] <Tenkawa_> did the dd complete or not?
[21:32] <paxcoder> Not that I care, I prefer to do it myself.
[21:32] <paxcoder> Tenkawa_, it completed. I just didn't dd back to an image to checksum
[21:32] <Tenkawa_> oh ok
[21:33] <Tenkawa_> so it boots.. then?
[21:33] <muriani> I'm using the retropie script on raspbian
[21:33] <Ryccardo> paxcoder: hmmm, tried loading the image you downloaded in a loop device to check if you can see the partitions there?
[21:33] <paxcoder> Tenkawa_, the retro? I'm not sure. I didn't connect it to a display
[21:33] <Tenkawa_> oh
[21:34] <paxcoder> Ryccardo, how'd I do that?
[21:34] <Tenkawa_> losetup
[21:34] <muriani> Oh yeah, I've got a local display on the pi... doing all this over ssh would be a pain
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[21:40] * paxcoder wonders where his loop device is if not in /dev/loop
[21:40] <paxcoder> oh they're numbered i guess
[21:40] <Tenkawa_> yup
[21:41] <Tenkawa_> loop0
[21:41] <Tenkawa_> loop1, etc
[21:44] <paxcoder> Tenkawa_, I losetup'd the image, and only got /dev/loop0 as the output
[21:44] <paxcoder> I assume that implies there's only one partition?
[21:44] <muriani> then that's where it is
[21:44] <paxcoder> (or none at all)
[21:45] <Ryccardo> try opening it with fdisk/gdisk/etc
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[21:45] <Ryccardo> I don't think you can get loop0a, loop0b etc
[21:45] <Tenkawa_> just a sec
[21:45] <Tenkawa_> you need to use losetup -P
[21:45] <Tenkawa_> had to get the flag
[21:46] <Ryccardo> (or maybe you could have used it directly on the image, not sure)
[21:46] <paxcoder> /dev/loop0pN
[21:46] <Tenkawa_> yep
[21:46] <paxcoder> where N is a number
[21:46] <Tenkawa_> no
[21:46] <paxcoder> got it
[21:46] <paxcoder> was dd's fault then
[21:46] <willmore> aberrant, I have not yet, but i will be in the future.
[21:46] <Tenkawa_> losetup -P blah
[21:46] <willmore> I don't have a pi2 yet. *mumbles* I will have a C1, though....
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[21:46] <Tenkawa_> then it should create all the loop*p*
[21:46] <paxcoder> I guess. But anyway, back to the hang. Can USB power from a dekstop PC be insufficent too?
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[21:47] <muriani> yes
[21:47] <Tenkawa_> paxcoder: very likely
[21:47] <muriani> paxcoder: USB spec is 500mA for devices
[21:47] <paxcoder> :/
[21:47] <Ryccardo> depends, some have it wired directly to +5, others are tight about the standard
[21:47] <willmore> If you dd to a drive and that changes the partition table, you have to tell the kernel to reread the partition table.
[21:47] <paxcoder> I just can't catch a break
[21:47] <muriani> you are only guaranteed that much from a PC port
[21:47] <shauno> one of the specs is 500mA. there's so many to choose from!
[21:47] <muriani> true
[21:47] <willmore> Also, that 500ma is *after you talk to the host*.
[21:47] <Ryccardo> ^^^
[21:47] <willmore> If you don't talk, it's like 90 or 100ma
[21:47] <Ryccardo> 100 bebore
[21:48] <aberrant> willmore: trying http://www.rs-online.com/designspark/electronics/eng/blog/taking-the-raspberry-pi-2-for-a-test-drive-with-gnu-radio-2?/designspark/electronics/blog/taking-the-raspberry-pi-2-for-a-test-drive-with-gnu-radio-2=
[21:48] <willmore> Knew it was around there, thank Ryccardo.
[21:48] <willmore> Cool link, thanks, aberrant.
[21:48] <aberrant> :)
[21:48] <paxcoder> Ok, thanks for the help again.
[21:48] <Ryccardo> willmore: 90 for all intents and purposes if you use a non-powered hub on a strict chipset :)
[21:48] <aberrant> 59 upgraded, 197 newly installed, 0 to remove and 666 not upgraded.
[21:48] <aberrant> Need to get 147 MB of archives.
[21:48] <aberrant> hahaha
[21:49] <paxcoder> Btw, T, how do I unproject this image from the lo?
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[21:49] <willmore> Ryccardo, so I was right twice? Awesome. :)
[21:49] <willmore> aberrant, gonna be a while...
[21:49] <aberrant> yah.
[21:49] <aberrant> at least I don’t have to build from source
[21:49] <willmore> Well, it's a 2, so it should be a good deal faster than an original.
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[21:49] <Ryccardo> willmore: my hub projects a very bright and sharp blue ring across the room, I bet that LED uses more than 10 milliamps!
[21:50] <willmore> paxcoder, unproject?
[21:50] <paxcoder> willmore, unmap?
[21:50] <willmore> Ryccardo, probably does. Normal T1/T1 3/4 LEDs are spec'ed at 20mA.
[21:50] <paxcoder> detatch with -d, got it
[21:50] <willmore> paxcoder, yes. losetup -d /dev/loop<thing>
[21:51] <aberrant> willmore: it took 4 hours or so on a vm on my macbook pro. :)
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[21:51] <paxcoder> thanks cya when i get a decent power source :(
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[21:51] <willmore> Ryccardo, I have a motorola cable modem with blue and white LEDs on it. I'm guessing the designer wanted them to be visible in direct daylight....
[21:51] <willmore> good luck... oh, he's gone.
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[22:03] <aberrant> 460 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 203 not upgraded.
[22:03] <aberrant> wow
[22:03] <aberrant> it’s only been like a week since I last upgraded
[22:03] <aberrant> oh, it’s ‘cause I added jessie to apt sources
[22:05] <Ryccardo> there are people still not on (at least) jessie? :)
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[22:06] <eggy> jessie is current development at the moemnt, right?
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[22:07] <Ryccardo> it's already mostly frozen
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[22:07] <eggy> ah
[22:07] <aberrant> Ryccardo: well, yes
[22:08] <eggy> its in testing, gottcha
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[22:08] <Ryccardo> so if you want to only be one month behind you must use sid at the moment
[22:08] <aberrant> Ryccardo: since the raspbian distro is still wheezy....
[22:08] <eggy> yeah
[22:08] <eggy> dunno if there is a sid for pi though
[22:08] <Ryccardo> never heard of one tbh
[22:08] <mrmoney2012> anyone know how i can get raspberry to stop turning off my dell monitor, presumably power save or screensaver - i tried lots of forum tips but still no good
[22:09] <eggy> same
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[22:09] <Ryccardo> happens automatically after some time or immediately/randomly?
[22:10] <mrmoney2012> yes..
[22:10] <mrmoney2012> haha, well after some time
[22:10] <mrmoney2012> automatcially after some time...
[22:10] <Ryccardo> on the GUI or the console?
[22:11] <mrmoney2012> dell P2210 screen HDMI from pi in to DVI
[22:11] <mrmoney2012> i have chromium running in kiosk mode - so GUI i guess!
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[22:11] <mrmoney2012> kinda.
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[22:12] <Ryccardo> `xset -dpms` will turn off display energy saver (assuming a "power manager" doesn't change it back but LXDE doesn't have one by default)
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[22:12] <nomis> Hi all. Is it possible to control the polarity/length of the hsync/vsync signals on the dpi interface?
[22:12] <mrmoney2012> Ryccardo: ok, thanks, where do i put it ?
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[22:13] <Ryccardo> mrmoney2012: if you launch the GUI with startx, in ~/.xinitrc -- varies depending on how it starts
[22:13] <mrmoney2012> ahh
[22:13] <Ryccardo> generically, run it somehow after X starts
[22:14] <mrmoney2012> i’ve just used the sudo raspi-config way to startx on boot
[22:14] <willmore> mrmoney2012, what have you tried?
[22:14] <mrmoney2012> whatever that does - i’m ssh’d in… setup a great info screen in my kitchen..
[22:14] <Ryccardo> it goes through lightdm, no idea on how it autoruns stuff
[22:15] <mrmoney2012> various guides copy and paste, and a script
[22:15] <mrmoney2012> like thi… https://www.danpurdy.co.uk/web-development/raspberry-pi-kiosk-screen-tutorial/
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[22:16] <aberrant> so - upgrading from wheezy to jessie is just a matter of adding the jessie into apt sources and dist-upgrade, right?
[22:17] <Ryccardo> apt-get update between those 2 steps, but yup :)
[22:17] <aberrant> well, yes
[22:17] <aberrant> of course
[22:17] <aberrant> :)
[22:17] <aberrant> I’m doing an upgrade before I do a dist-upgrade also
[22:17] <aberrant> then I’ll do an autoremove afterwards
[22:18] <aberrant> do I keep the wheezy lines in the sources?
[22:18] <mrmoney2012> Ryccardo: i have that line already
[22:18] <mrmoney2012> in here /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart
[22:18] <mrmoney2012> amongst others
[22:18] <Ryccardo> aberrant: nope, unless you want to keep the ability to force an old package with "apt-get -t wheezy install ..." -- which will probably be counterproductive
[22:19] <aberrant> Ryccardo: thanks. can you paste your sources for me somewhere just so I can make sure mine’s right?
[22:19] <mrmoney2012> @xset s noblank and @xset s off and @xset -dpms
[22:19] <Ryccardo> not on Debian now, but if you paste yours I'll check them
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[22:19] <aberrant> Ryccardo: ok, one sec
[22:19] <jamesaxl> hello
[22:20] <aberrant> Ryccardo: http://dpaste.com/37BH6AD
[22:21] <jamesaxl> why, we could not use 5v and GNR from RaspberryPi board ?
[22:21] <Ryccardo> aberrant: change the first row too, but that's it
[22:21] <aberrant> to jessie from wheezy?
[22:21] <Ryccardo> yup
[22:21] <Ryccardo> jamesaxl: as an output you can (but there's little to use), as an input you can (but provide your own current limiting)
[22:21] <aberrant> can I just add “contrib non-free rpi” to the end of the last line?
[22:22] <Ryccardo> nah, first word after url is "version", the other are "suites" whose possible names depend on the repo
[22:22] <aberrant> oh
[22:22] <jamesaxl> Ryccardo: for example servo motor , i have 5v
[22:23] <aberrant> wait, so what should line 1 look like?
[22:23] <dreamon> Did a C program 1Year ago. last week I wanted to go on. It worked fine. Today though give a update a try. and did "sudo apt-get upgrade & apt-get dist-upgrade" after that my OneWire devices were not found.
[22:23] <mrmoney2012> drat - screen off again!
[22:23] <Ryccardo> aberrant: just checked though and those suites are also on raspbian.org, so you can add them
[22:23] <aberrant> Ryccardo: deb http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian jessie main contrib non-free rpi
[22:24] <dreamon> Anybody know if there was a change in W1 device usage or is it a different reason?
[22:24] <Ryccardo> aberrant: btw, the second line would be a duplicate of the first (the first autodetects a mirror of the second)
[22:24] <aberrant> the sources line?
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[22:24] <geerlingguy> dreamon: just a sec
[22:25] <Ryccardo> aberrant: you could completely replace the file with →→ deb http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ jessie main contrib non-free rpi
[22:25] <geerlingguy> http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/a/27793/6506
[22:25] <aberrant> ah, ok
[22:25] <aberrant> thanks
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[22:26] <dreamon> geerlingguy, Ok. I give it a try. (coming back and tell you.. :)
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[22:27] <Ryccardo> is rpi-update slow for you? it's been taking 13+ minutes for the last... 5 months?
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[22:28] <Ryccardo> mrmoney2012: do you have xscreensaver installed, which works off its own settings?
[22:28] <mrmoney2012> hmmm
[22:28] <mrmoney2012> don’t think so
[22:28] <dreamon> Ryccardo, Yes It took same time I think.
[22:29] <mrmoney2012> Package 'xscreensaver' is not installed, so not removed
[22:29] <dreamon> Ryccardo, Thank you so much. Now all sensors are back!! Cool
[22:30] <Ryccardo> ?
[22:30] <dreamon> geerlingguy, , Thank you so much. Now all sensors are back!! Cool
[22:30] <dreamon> Ryccardo, sorry
[22:30] <Ryccardo> heh, no problem
[22:31] <aberrant> wow
[22:31] <aberrant> 203 packages kept back
[22:31] <aberrant> need to dist-upgrade
[22:31] <aberrant> 203 upgraded, 328 newly installed, 14 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[22:31] <aberrant> hah
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[22:31] <geerlingguy> dreamon: nice!
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[22:43] <Simonious> I'm given to believe image processing on the raspi 2 is really tough... truth?
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[22:45] <derpingit> hey guys.. so a while back i asked the question if i could have a pi2 with openelec powered via the service usb port in the back of my tv..
[22:45] <derpingit> i wanna report it actuallt works.. just in case anyone else asks the same question down the line :)
[22:46] <derpingit> the only usb device i have attached to it is a wireless adapter tho, so maybe that's why
[22:46] <aberrant> anyone got access to a jessie system at the moment?
[22:47] <aberrant> -vm.swappiness=1
[22:47] <aberrant> -vm.min_free_kbytes = 8192
[22:47] <aberrant> are different in /etc/sysctl.conf
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[22:54] <Tachyon`> ahh, not all service USB ports are guarnateed to provide enough current
[22:55] <Tachyon`> but good that it worked for you ;p
[22:55] <Ryccardo> is it an LG?
[22:55] <Tachyon`> it varies by TV so you can't really give a definitive answer, perhaps someone should start a compatibility list
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[22:56] <derpingit> Ryccardo.. yes. it is
[22:56] <Ryccardo> most are designed to run a flash drive, but are crippled in software
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[22:57] <derpingit> also, i should point out that the pi2 is running overclocked, so it's pulling more juice than usual
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[23:11] <teclo-> derpingit: ah, sounds a good idea... power the raspberry pi from the TV's USB port...
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[23:24] <acidjazz> woudl it be hard at all to send a webkit/chrome tab to an lcd screen
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[23:29] <Ullarah> I keep suggesting this to many people who want to replace apache with something else, I like lighttpd and nginx, but you can always go smaller, and imo 'gatling' is one of the best simple web servers out there, it also includes FTP and readonly SMB support! http://www.fefe.de/gatling/
[23:30] <Ullarah> Been using on my super slim RPi for a simple status screen, and it's been going great!
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[23:31] <Ullarah> Of course you have to compile it yourself, I don't think 0.13 is in any repo, but I could be wrong.
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[23:40] <aberrant> this: “Quick-and-dirty SSL/TLS support (see README.tls)” gives me pause
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[23:43] <ppq> gatling is a project that aims at the education of its author
[23:43] <ppq> it's not really intendid to be used by others, as far as i know.
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[23:44] <Ullarah> ppq, I've been using it for years, mind you, only for my hobby projects.
[23:45] <Ullarah> It supports PolarSSL aberrant :)
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[23:45] <aberrant> you mean mbed?
[23:45] <Ullarah> You know what I meant :P
[23:46] <aberrant> no, if it’s still calling it polarssl then it hasn’t been updated in a while
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[23:46] <aberrant> at least a month :)
[23:46] <Ullarah> Well yeah, I meant mbed. I keep calling it polarSSL, because that's what it was for yearrrrrs.
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[23:49] <aberrant> hm
[23:49] <aberrant> actually mbed looks pretty cool
[23:49] <aberrant> lightweight.
[23:50] <aberrant> not thread safe though :(
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[23:54] <Ullarah> Yes it is aberrant ._.
[23:54] <Ullarah> https://tls.mbed.org/kb/development/thread-safety-and-multi-threading
[23:54] <aberrant> check out the docs on ssl_init
[23:54] <aberrant> the ssl contexts are not.
[23:54] <aberrant> “The default philosophy is: Unless specifically wrapped or indicated in a function, a context should only be used or accessed by a single thread at the same time."
[23:55] <Ullarah> Why the hell would the use thread safety on memory buffers and what not, but not what it's actually used for!?
[23:55] <aberrant> you tell me.
[23:55] * Ullarah sighs
[23:55] <Ullarah> Oh well. I don't actually use mbed, most of my projects are all in-house.
[23:56] <aberrant> heh
[23:56] <aberrant> I’m trying to find a replacement for gnutls
[23:56] <aberrant> which is a piece of CRAP
[23:56] <Ullarah> LibreSSL?
[23:56] <aberrant> nah
[23:56] <aberrant> too new
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[23:56] <aberrant> it’ll probably be openssl.
[23:56] <aberrant> which sucks
[23:57] <ppq> at least it sucks for a lot of people and not just a few.
[23:57] <Ullarah> Well OpenBSD uses it as mainstream I believe.
[23:57] <IWriteBugs> LibreSSL was forked from OpenSSL.. I hardly call it new just divergant
[23:58] <IWriteBugs> Isn't LibreSSL developed by the OpenBSD team now?
[23:58] <Ullarah> Well I was just merely giving alternatives, not to start another SSL war :P
[23:58] <IWriteBugs> Theo's response to heartbleed?
[23:58] <Ullarah> Haha, yep.
[23:58] <IWriteBugs> Sorry, I'm not arguing anything and I'm not dogmatic about it. Just having a discussion.
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