#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-03-05

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[0:00] <jamesaxl> Ryccardo: sometimes people do a silly mistake as i did :)
[0:00] <Ryccardo> reverse polarity?
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[0:00] <jamesaxl> Ryccardo: exactly :) ,
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[0:00] <jamesaxl> Ryccardo: have you ever done it before ?
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[0:01] <Ryccardo> not on a Pi and I usually check it before (the + is physically smaller if you look inside most round/rectangular ones), but when I'm lazy I use trial and error :)
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[0:17] <shiftplusone> Hm... calling Australian department of human services... "...If you are calling about <insert something reasonable here>, press 6. If you are calling about New Zealand, press 8." Why NZ!?
[0:17] <Criggie> shiftplusone: cos we're awesome
[0:17] <shiftplusone> Maybe so, but I wouldn't call Australia to tell them that.
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[0:17] <Criggie> they already know, and they're jealous.
[0:17] <shiftplusone> heh
[0:17] <jamesaxl> i feel happy :) with servo motor now
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[0:18] <shiftplusone> Kind of tempted to press 8....
[0:18] <Criggie> DO IT!
[0:18] <shiftplusone> "So... lot's of sheep, ey?"
[0:18] <shiftplusone> *lots
[0:18] <Criggie> not really - down to 20 million or so now. it was up around 70 million at once point, but dairy is increasing.
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[0:20] <shiftplusone> That's.... still a lot.
[0:20] <ppq> i wish we had that many sheep
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[0:20] * ppq likes sheep
[0:21] <ppq> very tasty :)
[0:21] <SpeedEvil> Mint lube.
[0:21] <SpeedEvil> err - sauce
[0:21] <shiftplusone> AAAAAAAAh! Waited on hold. Forgot I had my mic muted. She hung up!
[0:21] <ppq> lol
[0:21] <SpeedEvil> I have a lovely lamb chop in the fridge that I need to get to ooking.
[0:21] <shiftplusone> Well.... I tried. Not my problem now.
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[0:35] <segv> blah man
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[0:35] <segv> I wish my TV left it's usb ports always on
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[0:35] <segv> I am using the pi for xbmc, any of you think just turning the tv off will corrupt the stick all the time?
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[0:36] <Ryccardo> "all the time" very unlikely
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[0:36] <Ryccardo> though you'll benefit by using a journaled filesystem and/or mounting read only...
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[0:39] <shiftplusone> depends... there's so much variation in flash media that it's impossible to say anything general about it when it comes to data corruption
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[0:40] <aberrant> hey
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[1:07] <shiftplusone> Wow... just noticed that if I go on a journey through a dark tunnel of hidden links on my bank's website, I find an option to automatically pay off the credit card before any interest is added every month. That's convenient.
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[1:09] <Criggie> shiftplusone: nice - do it
[1:09] <shiftplusone> already done
[1:09] <Criggie> shiftplusone: but watch out - I bet they're not liable if they miss it.
[1:09] <Criggie> read the fine print
[1:10] <shiftplusone> Of course I'll still keep an eye on it and I don't think they'll get much interest on a few dollars here and there anyway.
[1:10] <shiftplusone> but yeah, good point
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[1:11] <derpingit> hi guys
[1:12] <shiftplusone> hi guy
[1:13] <derpingit> i have a pi2 running openelec kodi on a 8gb sd card.. as i do not watch media all the time, i would like to install a NES emulator to entertain myself with mario bro (the only game i've ever really completed) . can i dualboot the pi2? or should i just run a separate sdcard for the emu ? what are your toughts
[1:14] <Ryzari> you should be able to install it into openelec itself
[1:14] <derpingit> orly ?
[1:14] <IT_Sean> Personally, I'd run a seperate SD for each OS, this way a single SD card corruption doesn't kill all your OS installs.
[1:14] <shiftplusone> ideally, there's a nes emulator addon for it. If not, yes, you can dualboot
[1:14] <IT_Sean> But that's just me
[1:15] <derpingit> omg this is gold. thanks :D
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[1:15] <abnormal> IT_Sean, that's what I do also... and suggest to others...
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[1:15] <Ryzari> derpingit: http://www.misapuntesde.com/post.php?id=502
[1:15] <derpingit> yeah sdcards are so cheap nowdays.. can you point the way to a good emulator os ?
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[1:16] <Ryzari> otherwise grab a retropie sd image and toss on a separate sd card
[1:16] <derpingit> thanks, Ryzari
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[1:18] <shiftplusone> how well does pi2 emulate megadrive/genesis, anyway?
[1:19] <muriani> Should be nearly perfect I'd think
[1:19] <muriani> haven't got retropie all up and running yet
[1:20] <derpingit> muriani when you do, can u please let me know ?
[1:20] <shiftplusone> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L9nJ5Nf3vQ&t=304
[1:20] <derpingit> i really want to try crash bandicot on ps emu :D
[1:20] <shiftplusone> ah... all I needed to know =D ^
[1:20] <Ryzari> pretty sure it has no issues with genesis
[1:20] <muriani> I mean, I've had pretty much perfect genesis emulation on less
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[1:21] <shiftplusone> thanks
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[1:21] <Ryzari> it can run some n64 and psone games.. so genesis prolly doesn't even make it sweat
[1:21] <muriani> I mean, it does... yeah that
[1:21] <ring0> as i read only 5th generation consoles are still experimental. like n64, sega saturn and ps
[1:22] <Ryzari> pi2 could prolly do a lot better with n64 if it had a better emu
[1:22] <shiftplusone> well... what do the pandora folks run?
[1:22] <buZz> percore its also faster than pi1
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[1:23] <shiftplusone> the new handheld from evildragon seem to do n64 really well, so I suspect we steal whatever software they use.
[1:23] <muriani> they use mupen64plus as well I think
[1:23] <shiftplusone> hm
[1:23] <muriani> but the GPU on pandora may be a little better
[1:24] <shiftplusone> Well... all the youtube videos are really making me want to get my Slice sooner >=/
[1:25] <buZz> new pandora still uses TI chips right? with TI video ..
[1:25] <muriani> yeah
[1:25] <muriani> omap5 last I looked
[1:25] * shiftplusone adds 'Pester Gordon about Slice... again' to the todo list.
[1:25] <muriani> actually it's pvr video
[1:26] <muriani> which is owned by.... crap I forgot
[1:26] <muriani> MIPS now I think?
[1:26] <buZz> satan
[1:27] <buZz> the compute modules have no ethernet, right?
[1:27] * niston nods
[1:28] <buZz> so, has anyone thought of a different way to network them vs adding usb ethernet per module?
[1:28] <shiftplusone> buZz: usb is really the only viable option right now.
[1:28] <buZz> i was thinking about the many-raspi-in-1U problem
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[1:29] <muriani> I don't think the raspi's the best thing for that
[1:29] <muriani> networking is pretty much bollocks on it
[1:29] <muriani> I'd probably go odroid
[1:29] <buZz> it doesnt need to be superb, some applications only need limited resources
[1:29] <buZz> odroid-w ?
[1:30] <buZz> or whicever, that raspi 2.54mm pitch board
[1:30] <buZz> heh, someone modeled this; https://i.imgur.com/KiSz876.jpg
[1:31] <buZz> 120 compute modules in 1U with spare room
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[1:31] <derpingit> what would that do if u don;t mind explaining
[1:31] <buZz> some ppl just need a tiny shell machine
[1:31] <derpingit> i've seen people stack like 10 boards together
[1:32] <muriani> well, the -w is gone now no?
[1:32] <buZz> i'm just considering if hosting 1U of raspi would be viable economically to run for offering hosted raspi in a datacenter
[1:32] <jamesaxl> could i connect 16 servo motors ?
[1:32] <buZz> with gbit uplink etc
[1:32] <derpingit> aah.. for like vps use ?
[1:32] * derpingit very noob
[1:32] <buZz> i mean, more viable then a server with 120 VMs
[1:32] <ozzzy> why bother with gigabit
[1:33] <buZz> yeah but not vps, real actual server
[1:33] <jamesaxl> should i have a shield ?
[1:33] <buZz> depends if its raining
[1:33] <derpingit> what could u possibly serve with 1gb ram ?
[1:33] <buZz> 512mb :P
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[1:33] <muriani> derpingit: my VPS only has 1GB
[1:33] <Ryccardo> derpingit: does it run minecraft?
[1:33] <derpingit> i realize thats probably a very stupid question but please enlighten me
[1:34] <buZz> derpingit: linux, nginx, bitcoin daemon, database server, minecraft
[1:34] <buZz> voip server, icecast relay
[1:34] <buZz> eh
[1:34] <muriani> you can do all sorts of stuff under 1GB
[1:34] <buZz> so much
[1:34] <derpingit> ah ok
[1:34] <derpingit> very neat
[1:34] <Simonious> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/withpiper/piper-a-minecraft-toolbox-for-budding-engineers/description raspi II inside :)
[1:34] <Simonious> I'm guessing everyone here already knows about that though..
[1:35] <derpingit> actually, now that i think about it, i have a 1gb vps runing linx
[1:35] <muriani> I have a VPS with one core, 1GB ram, runs linux, XMPP server, wordpress, stuff
[1:36] <derpingit> Simonious that is actually very cool..
[1:36] <Simonious> I'm thinking about ordering one for my 7 yr old
[1:36] <Simonious> He loves his electronics kit
[1:36] <derpingit> i could gift this and feel super cool aboiut it :D
[1:36] <Simonious> And really wants to do more with that stuff.
[1:38] <ozzzy> I wouldn't touch a kickstarter
[1:38] <Simonious> I would and have
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[1:38] <muriani> I have as well. Good has come of it
[1:38] <muriani> still waiting on others
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[1:55] <derpingit> ozzzy i sympathize with you. the only one thing i've ever bough via kickstarted looked like an awesome idea, but it sucks so bad i just have it as a novelty. however, they;re only really putting a kit together instead of fabricating the electronics..
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[3:12] <willmore> shiftplusone, my C1 came today. It's way faster than the pi. I really want to get a pi2 now.
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[4:55] <Foxhoundz> Help!
[4:55] <Foxhoundz> I need help!
[4:55] <Foxhoundz> How do I configure a print server on raspbian?
[4:57] <aberrant> Foxhoundz: did you see this? http://www.gaducated.com/raspberry-pi-powered-scan-and-print-server/
[4:57] <aberrant> or this? http://www.libregeek.org/2013/12/01/how-to-using-your-raspberry-pi-as-a-cups-print-server/
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[4:59] <cehteh> just install cups (iirc thats even default)
[5:00] <cehteh> and the point your browser to http://localhost:631
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[5:08] <jpleau> hello, I'm trying to enter recovery mode with NOOBS. My shift key somehow doesn't work on during boot, so I'm trying to do what's written here: "Append gpiotriggerenable to the argument list in the recovery.cmdline file which is found in the root NOOBS directory" Is that file available from inside raspbian?
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[5:13] <kisak> jpleau: it's not press and hold shift right after giving the pi power, it's press shift just after the instruction appears on the screen
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[5:14] <jpleau> kisak: Yes I'm doing exactly that. I'm waiting for the instructions to appear.
[5:15] <jpleau> I found that the first partition contains the recovery.cmdline file, I'm going to try appending the line there
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[5:22] <Foxhoundz> aberrant: I still need help! :(
[5:23] <aberrant> Foxhoundz: then you’ll have to be more specific about what you’ve tried, what didn’t work, etc.
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[5:31] <Foxhoundz> aberrant: I set up the printer fine
[5:31] <Foxhoundz> but how do I find a ppd file
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[5:32] <Froolap> is there a maximum resolution for connecting lcd to the gpio?
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[5:33] <Froolap> I have an old dell laptop that I'm going to retire, would be nice if I could use the lcd display from that on the PI.
[5:34] <McBride36> i think you need a chip for that
[5:34] <McBride36> using a display
[5:35] <abnormal> get the one on ebay the converter board with the push button controls.
[5:35] <Froolap> Since I'm going to trash the laptop...... anything that I could easily hook up and have it work?
[5:35] <Froolap> I'm not really picky about using the gpio..... just functionality.
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[5:37] <Froolap> and someone was asking about a cool accessory for the PI. It would be cool to have a granny picture frame, where you could be on the beach, and upload pictures to the pi for it to display to granny in the nursing home.... without granny needing to be technical....
[5:38] <McBride36> that can be done and would be a cool project
[5:38] <Froolap> I heard of something like that being advertised a long time ago, but I'm not seeing any picture frames being advertised with network connectivity any more.
[5:38] <McBride36> make your own
[5:38] <McBride36> get an lcd display, put it on a frame
[5:39] <Froolap> That's why I was asking about the lcd display on my laptop. :)
[5:39] <McBride36> those screens aren't plug and play, there's often converter chips needed
[5:39] <McBride36> what model is the lappy
[5:40] <Froolap> Inspirion 8100 or inspirion 7500 take your pick, both are slated for the trash once data has been cleaned.
[5:40] <Froolap> dell
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[5:40] <Froolap> sad to think that I paid $5000 for that laptop and now the PI is faster. lol
[5:41] <abnormal> what processors did they have in them?
[5:42] <Ullarah> Anybody use the standard dosbox from the debian repo on their RPi2? Just want to know how well it performs.
[5:42] <Froolap> I don't even remember at this point..... I think the faster one was 650 mhz cpu with 256 meg ram.
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[5:44] <Froolap> the bios only supports 126 gig drive max
[5:49] <abnormal> well can you update the BIOs? I'm sure there is a way to save them and still use that lappy as a back up unit.
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[5:53] <Froolap> the cpu and ram is so slow as to not be worth it, it takes minutes to boot xp, and well no support for that and no other os really works.....
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[5:54] <Froolap> fighting with the nvidea gforce to get x going isn't worth the effort. I'll never have another nvidea vid card again
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[5:56] <Froolap> if I could take my roto tool and cut a section out of the mainboard and then solder wires to the pi to have the display working, I would do it.....
[5:57] <Froolap> as for a cool accessory, having a 10 inch lcd lanel that I could velcro the pi on the back of with wireless keyboard/mouse. that would rock.
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[6:02] <Froolap> as best as I can tell the insp 8100 was Processor Speed: 1.13 GHz RAM 256MB
[6:03] <Froolap> I want to think that the 900 mhz quad core with twice the ram would be faster, maybe I'm wrong.
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[6:12] <McBride36> imma hit the hay, but Froolap no harm in taking it apart and seeing what's up
[6:12] <McBride36> if there's any sorts of chips and whatnot, grab those
[6:12] <McBride36> i think it'll be near the displayport cable, but not sure
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[6:12] <McBride36> that's what mine was like anyways
[6:13] <McBride36> night
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[6:21] <Ziak> hi all I'm new to doing anything with raspberry pi and I was wondering if the B+ could power this ( www.amazon.com/dp/B000AYHY7I/ )?
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[6:26] <y007ghg7> Ziak, Power Consumption: 2W-4.5W
[6:26] <y007ghg7> doubt it
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[6:27] <cehteh> this usb display protocoll is also a bit ugly implemented usually
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[6:28] <cehteh> you can get a 'real' monitor for less .. or one of these small supported touchpad screens
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[6:30] <Ziak> well the idea is I want to make a "digital picture frame" project, something I can keep on my office desk but instead I want it to automatically every day go out and download webcomics for the day, so I want something that dosen't take up that much space
[6:30] <Ziak> on an office desk
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[6:31] <Froolap> cehteh: I was looking at http://www.amazon.com/HP-23-Inch-Screen-LED-Lit-Monitor/dp/B00GJO7GOE/ref=sr_1_27?ie=UTF8&qid=1425532591&sr=8-27&keywords=portable+monitors
[6:31] <Froolap> I dunno about the HDCP though....
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[6:32] <cehteh> rpi doesnt do hdcp iirc
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[6:33] <cehteh> Ziak: linux has displaylink drivers for monitors over usb connection, but often vendors fail to implement the spec correctly, or add some propietary encryption and whats not
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[6:33] <cehteh> either way if you are new to that then its prolly a nogo
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[6:36] <Ziak> cehteh: yea I think I'm leaning more to just using hdmi monitor I shouldn't have any problem using that right?
[6:36] <Froolap> Yeah, I figured it would be lovely to get a monitor that won't display anything.
[6:36] <cehteh> just add some cronjob @daily wget http://webcomic | lpr ... if you have a laser printer it cost few cents per day :D
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[6:37] <Ziak> lol I could do that but not as cool as it just being on my desk in the morning
[6:37] <cehteh> build a paper management robot with the pi which places the printout on your desk, that would be cool :)
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[6:38] <Froolap> Ya know, I got an interesting problem with using a samsung tv as a monitor.... Hook up the babana pi to the PC/vga input, and I get unsupported mode while using an hdmi to vga converter. however it works when I plug directly into the hdmi port.
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[6:39] <Froolap> I know the hdmi-vga converter is working properly as it functions on another TV......
[6:39] <cehteh> Ziak: http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/07/19/how-to-get-lilliput-displaylink-based-usb-monitor-um-70-17e902a9-working-in-ubuntu-linux/
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[6:39] <cehteh> .. you could google that by yourself :D
[6:39] <Triffid_Hunter> Froolap: why would you use a converter when it has hdmi?
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[6:41] <cehteh> Ziak: so basically it works, but certainly needs some tinkering, rebuilding kernel and maybe more
[6:41] <Froolap> Because I have a KVM, and I haven't seen any HDMI based kvm. :)
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[6:41] <cehteh> also its power is a bit much, you need a reasonable big enough power supply and maybe bridge the fuse on the pi or power it externally
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[6:42] <Ziak> cehteh: yea I'm thinking about just getting a standalone monitor and doing it that way
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[6:43] <cehteh> http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2012/08/17/lilliput-displaylink-usb-monitor-um-70-17e902a9-with-raspberry-pi-on-raspbian/
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[6:51] <Froolap> using the same kmv and hdmi2vga converter on a different tv works..... most annoting. don't want to have to get another tv and hope it supports the resolution.
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[7:06] <anunnaki> hey anyone using openelec on their pis? if so.. whats a server i can put on openelec? i tried asking in #openelec but the only ppl talking in there dont use pi
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[7:07] <anunnaki> media server that is.. unless apache and mysql can be used to control my media for my network
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[9:20] <Energia> one shouldn't worry about changing ssh server settings on rpi if it is behind a router with no port forwarding, right?
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[9:25] <ShorTie> i never change anything if that means anything
[9:25] <Energia> yeah I just saw this thread on reddit http://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/2xumdy/raspberry_pi_webserver_just_got_hacked/?sort=hot
[9:25] <hugogee> so what is the preferred method of extending the sdcard lifespan?
[9:25] <Energia> and was wondering how the hell they were getting "hacked"
[9:25] <ShorTie> what settings are you talking about ??
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[9:25] <hugogee> ha
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[9:26] <Energia> port, default password, maybe those ssh keys
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[9:27] <ShorTie> as long as port 22 is closed on your router you should be fine
[9:28] <ShorTie> default password, didn't know there was 1, thought it was/is user specific
[9:28] <Energia> that's what I thought but was confused how those people in the comments there that had www server were hacked, they probably redirected all external ports to rpi
[9:29] <Energia> pi/raspberry is the default one afaik
[9:29] <ShorTie> keys i think you can regenerate with like 'dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server'
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[9:30] <ShorTie> oh, well changing that password is the 1st thing you should do
[9:30] <ShorTie> right after expanding file system in raspi-config
[9:30] <Energia> i changed it to pi, haha, but I was certain nobody from the outside could access it
[9:31] <ShorTie> i use 3 letters, but it deffentitly needs a changing
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[9:32] <ShorTie> might acually be best just to make a new user and delete pi
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[9:33] <ShorTie> the bots are gonna be banging port 22 l@@kin for pi
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[9:33] <mortal> why does overvolt 2 give me the same temps as overvolt 8 in turbo mode
[9:34] <mortal> I have a 2 Amp psu
[9:34] <ShorTie> so even if you change the password, they will still know a pi is there i believe
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[9:42] <Energia> mortal: was it in idle?
[9:43] <Energia> you should test it with cpu usage to the max
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[10:05] <Froolap> I found that when I opened ssh on my router that I had 1000 incomming attempts to connect within one hour. All originating from china.
[10:05] <ShorTie> it's called port scanners
[10:05] <Froolap> and that was with fail2ban blocking after 6 attempts.
[10:05] <ShorTie> they look for port 22
[10:06] <Froolap> There's a difference between pinging port 22 and attempting to login with auth, root, apachi, etc.
[10:06] <ShorTie> make it some other port if you want to ssh in
[10:07] <Froolap> when they pass a userid it's no longer a port scan.
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[10:07] <ShorTie> they start with a ping
[10:07] <ShorTie> from there who knows what they do
[10:07] <ShorTie> block pings too...
[10:07] <vlt> Froolap: I don't think there's such a thing as "pinging port 22".
[10:08] <Froolap> and oncwe they get that ping they distribute it to 100 different ip blocks which then use 100 different ip addresses and hammer.
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[10:14] <ShorTie> this is a very usefull tool peeps should run https://www.grc.com/shieldsup
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[11:10] <Tenkawa> hi all
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[12:31] <avrdude> on https://github.com/raspberrypi/hats/blob/master/designguide.md it says that only a non-paged 16-bit addressable device is allowed, but then they recommend OnSemi CAT24C32 which looks like it is 8 bit?
[12:32] <avrdude> can someone explain?
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[12:35] <ShorTie> most likely, i'm guessing, that is because that is all you need for a id eeprom
[12:36] <avrdude> what exactly is ID EEPROM? is it a special kind of eeprom?
[12:36] <avrdude> there isn't much about it on google
[12:36] <ShorTie> id eeprom doesn't do much but say who it is
[12:36] <ShorTie> no, don't think so
[12:37] <avrdude> so i flash it once, with the info i want, and then stick it on my hat?
[12:37] <ShorTie> even xbox have them, and it is just some stupid little thing
[12:37] <avrdude> are there any schematics available?
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[12:38] <ShorTie> on a xbox, you need to jtag it to get the id so you can put that info into a different hard drive
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[12:40] <ShorTie> have no idea on schem's, best i could say is find some hats that use it with schem's and borrow there circuit
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[12:51] <SpeedEvil> The ID eprom is simply a eeprom on an external board that can be read by the 'BIOS' - and kernel to configure things for that card onboot
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[13:03] <kivutar> hello, who runs mupen64plus-libretro on the RPi2? I get no audio
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[13:05] <buZz> win10 for raspi isnt released yet, is it?
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[13:06] <Tenkawa> not yet
[13:06] <Tenkawa> at least I havent seen it up on iot yet avail for testing yet
[13:07] <ShorTie> 'Windows 10 will launch in late-2015.', so i wouldn't expect much sooner then that
[13:08] <buZz> hmhm k
[13:08] <buZz> just received my first raspi2 :D
[13:09] <Tenkawa> cool
[13:09] <buZz> only .15 btc <3
[13:09] <Tenkawa> did you have any rpi1?
[13:09] <Tenkawa> s
[13:09] <buZz> i have 4 rpi1's
[13:09] <buZz> 3 running infrastructure stuff, 1 idle
[13:09] <Tenkawa> what do you think of the 2 so far?
[13:09] <buZz> fast <3
[13:09] <Tenkawa> i have been very pleased
[13:09] <buZz> i borrowed one 2 weeks ago, to try out compiling ROS.org on it
[13:09] <buZz> very nice and fast :)
[13:10] <Tenkawa> yep
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[13:19] <Tenkawa> lets see if kernel-next-4 will run yet on a pi2
[13:19] <Tenkawa> heehehehehh
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[13:20] <Tenkawa> once my compile finishes that is heheeh
[13:21] <buZz> hehe
[13:21] <buZz> dont forget -j4 ;)
[13:21] <Tenkawa> oh i didnt
[13:21] <buZz> good good
[13:21] <Tenkawa> (I'm compiling on another machine with a lot more cpu power)
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[13:55] <NecessaryEvil> Op a gangbang style !
[13:57] <shiftplusone> no
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[14:44] <Froolap> does it work yet?
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[15:36] <Wazza> quiet in here today
[15:37] <Armand> SSshhhhh... We're huntin' wabbits!
[15:39] <Flipo> anyone got their raspberry pi 2 from newark ? ordered a while ago and still not news :/
[15:39] <ozzzy> I got two from them
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[15:40] <Flipo> guess I did not order soon enough
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[15:50] <Bilby> check microcenter, they were on the shelf there a week ago
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[15:52] <ahop> Hi!
[15:52] <ahop> Have some of you already tested Win10 for RPi2 ?
[15:52] <strobelight> not i
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[15:52] <Armand> Has it even been released yet?
[15:53] <Bilby> newp. I'm not sure if the SDK has even ocme out
[15:53] <Armand> ^
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[15:55] <hugogee> whats the best way to extend sdcard lifespan? load /var/.. as tmpfs? usb?
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[15:56] <Bilby> hugogee ignore everything everyone says and just use the thing.
[15:56] <Bilby> stop overthinking it ;)
[15:56] <hugogee> hehe
[15:57] <hugogee> i have heard stories of people systems just keeeling over.
[15:57] <hugogee> that would not make me happy.
[15:57] <Bilby> anything you can do will only marginally increase the life span of an SD card
[15:57] <strobelight> usually power-related
[15:57] <Bilby> ^
[15:57] <Bilby> if you're talking about write cycles, ain't nuthin you can do
[15:57] <hugogee> Oh
[15:57] <hugogee> Bilby, is that so?!
[15:58] <muriani> pretty much
[15:58] <Bilby> if you're talking about "in general" - have good power, don't shut down unexpectedly, don't eat the card and let it process through your digestive tract
[15:58] <hugogee> hmm all this time i have been spinning my tiny wheel
[15:58] <muriani> outside of building a read-only rootfs
[15:58] <hugogee> muriani: that is what i presently do
[15:59] <muriani> I mean, then you're really limiting write cycles
[15:59] <muriani> but you're also limiting your usability
[15:59] <hugogee> pls explain
[15:59] <Bilby> and seriously, it's a $10 card
[15:59] <muriani> right
[15:59] <muriani> storage is cheap
[15:59] <muriani> just make backups of your stuff
[15:59] <Bilby> on a $30 computer
[15:59] <hugogee> right
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[16:00] <Bilby> so if you spend more than ~2 hours doing anything unnecessary with it, you are now costing yourself money for no benefit
[16:00] <hugogee> so true
[16:00] * Bilby finds it fascinating that humans everywhere consistantly undervalue their own time
[16:01] <Bilby> a-la "i'll drive across town to save 5c/gal on gas!"
[16:01] <muriani> yeah, THAT's dumb
[16:01] <hugogee> Bilby where art is concerned oftimes logic does not apply.
[16:01] * IT_Sean drops muriani's Pi into a blender, hits the 'frappe' button
[16:01] <muriani> since you probably use that much in case anyway
[16:01] <muriani> *gas
[16:01] <muriani> at least driving across town here, because that's an hour or so >_<
[16:01] <muriani> IT_Sean: noooooooooooo
[16:02] <IT_Sean> muriani: YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUP!
[16:02] <muriani> at least take it out of the case first
[16:02] <muriani> I like my case
[16:02] <ahop> Armand Bilby oh it's not released yet ?
[16:02] <IT_Sean> nope.
[16:02] <ahop> even as beta?
[16:02] <muriani> oh well I can print another case
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[16:03] <Bilby> mmmm, RaspSmoothie
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[16:05] <McBride36> SD cards are cheap, no sense in beatin' yourself up on trying to extend the life
[16:06] <hugogee> McBride36: what is the typical lifespan of an sdcard, if i just use it?
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[16:06] <McBride36> with my luck? months
[16:07] <hugogee> McBride36: its not so much the money. I wanted,have been useing the PI for infrastructure. I dont like my boxes going down.
[16:07] <McBride36> i would assume if you took good care of it, like with what Bilby said, it'd last longer
[16:07] <McBride36> what are you doing with them?
[16:07] <hugogee> email,web,notification apps i wrote
[16:07] <ahop> do you know if it will be only Win10 via telnet
[16:08] <ahop> only command line or also to be able to run normal windows softwares?
[16:08] <hugogee> git svr
[16:08] <ahop> (about Win10 on Rpi2 )
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[16:09] <McBride36> i mean, if you're concerned about read/writing too often you can have the data read to/from a external drive
[16:10] <hugogee> McBride36: yup thats where im headed.
[16:10] <hugogee> just wanted to see what others were doing.
[16:11] <McBride36> ahop, don't quote me but i think it's IoT
[16:11] <McBride36> won't be a full win10 distro on devices
[16:11] <hugogee> To have to rebuild and restore data. That is a waste of time. Time spent trying to create a solution is in my opinion, time well spent.
[16:11] <McBride36> *arm devides
[16:12] <ahop> McBride36 oh ok, so I won't be able to run VST (virtual music instruments as .dll) on a Pi2?
[16:13] <McBride36> i have absolutely no idea lol
[16:13] <McBride36> you're better off asking someone smarter than me
[16:14] <Bilby> ahop DLL files are compiled against the architecture (I think) so you'd need ones compiled against ARM7
[16:14] <ahop> Bilby oh really ? arghh
[16:14] <Bilby> hypothetically the Pi could run WinRT with a Gui, but I'm not sure if that's what is going down
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[16:15] <Bilby> MS is very specifically calling it a version of windows "for IoT" which usually means no UI
[16:16] <mgottschlag> and even then, WinRT only can run ARM Windows programs
[16:16] <mgottschlag> not arbitrary programs compiled for x86
[16:17] <McBride36> ^ what those guys said
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[16:19] <Bilby> Yep, DLL must be cross-compiled to be compatible with ARM architecture
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[16:21] <McBride36> Bilby, so basically would it be "when in doubt, is it ARM? if not, then it woudln't work?"
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[16:24] <mgottschlag> the exception is that .NET DLLs are platform compatible
[16:24] <mgottschlag> *platform agnostic
[16:24] <mgottschlag> whatever
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[16:25] <ahop> hum...
[16:25] <ahop> ok so Steinberg VST .dll won't run on RPi 2 :(
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[16:26] <Bilby> McBride36 pretty much
[16:27] <Bilby> mgottschlag yeah. msft website says "certain DLL files have been compiled for compatibility on both platforms"
[16:27] <Bilby> i mean, it's not a huge hit... you can get ATOM boards pretty cheaply these days. not $30 cheap, of course
[16:28] <willmore> Bilby, I got one for $37.
[16:28] <McBride36> that's certianly not $30 cheap!
[16:28] <muriani> ahop: yeah, if you're running VSTs you'd need to get them built for ARM
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[16:29] <muriani> mgottschlag: yeah, .net would be agnostic... but instruments are rarely, if ever, built in .net :)
[16:29] <willmore> It's in the rpi price range. :)
[16:30] <turtlehat> has any of you worked with these guys https://communities.intel.com/servlet/JiveServlet/download/231331-77151/sku_220194_1.jpg ?
[16:30] <turtlehat> and some simple c/c++ libraries?
[16:30] <muriani> What would be interesting to see though, an XNA port for games to PiWin10
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[16:30] <turtlehat> i say simple, cause i wish to dissect and understand
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[16:33] <turtlehat> these guys == 433 mhz receiver / transmitter
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[16:34] <Bilby> what? where?
[16:34] <Bilby> because i'm getting sick of playing with this ESP8266
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[16:45] <dob1> hi, which secure(not paranoid) and fast ssl cipher can i use on raspberry to not load too much che cpu while trasferring files?
[16:46] <Bilby> how have you decided to transfer them? sftp?
[16:47] <SpeedEvil> And how fast are you tranferring files
[16:47] <dob1> Bilby, i am using burp backup to backup files on raspberry, it uses ssl to transfer files, i can decide the cipher but i see that the speed is limited to 1-2 mb/s
[16:47] <dob1> with the default cipher
[16:47] <SpeedEvil> Is the CPU pinned?
[16:47] <SpeedEvil> Or is something else interfereing
[16:47] <dob1> pinned means?
[16:48] <SpeedEvil> 100% utilised
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[16:48] <dob1> not at all, but i consider that it transfer large/small files, so maybe transferring small files it doesn't reach 100%
[16:49] <SpeedEvil> What storage are you using
[16:49] <dob1> usb hdd
[16:49] <SpeedEvil> Have you checked what the HD can actually do ?
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[16:50] <dob1> well my test involves iperf, i have full speed with iperf (ethernet card limit), i understand that encryption slows dows things, but if i can get better performance. I don't need a super encryptio
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[16:52] <SpeedEvil> yes - but if the encryption is not actually mattering to performance - and you're limited on the hard disk side
[16:52] <SpeedEvil> ...
[16:52] <dob1> currently it uses DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384
[16:52] <SpeedEvil> Try large files
[16:52] <SpeedEvil> Also - pi1, or 2
[16:52] <dob1> testing the hdd speed with dd, i get good performance
[16:52] <dob1> 1
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[16:53] <dob1> just to mention, using burp to backup i get a lot of smsc95xx 1-1.1:1.0 eth0: kevent 2 may have been dropped
[16:54] <dob1> i am ignoring it by now, i am not expert in networing, but if the connection is via tcp, i think is safe to ignore them
[16:55] <leio> dob1: dd returning and reporting whatever it did doesn't mean it actually wrote to storage; might be pending in dirty buffers still; maybe dd with fsync option would be interesting if you for some reason want to use dd as a benchmarking tool
[16:55] <leio> (disclaimer: I didn't read the full backlog)
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[16:56] <leio> and I guess over network drives buffers might be in play as well
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[16:57] <dob1> ok but for example, via sftp, changing the algorithm makes a big difference
[16:57] <dob1> not so big :)
[16:58] <dob1> so encryption is more responsable than the hdd
[16:58] <BobFrankly> rpi2, 2A power sufficent for the pi + keyboard and HDMI out? or should I be aiming higher?
[17:00] <BobFrankly> apoligies if this has been asked/answered repeatedly before
[17:01] <muriani> BobFrankly: that's just fine
[17:01] <muriani> More than enough
[17:01] <BobFrankly> thank you, did the google-fu, but most looked like speculation :D
[17:03] <willmore> blowfish is the fastest and still-sufficiently-secure cipher that I would consider using on a pi.
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[17:05] <BobFrankly> any considerations for class or size on the SD card?
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[17:05] <muriani> BobFrankly: class10 at least
[17:05] <muriani> size, eh
[17:05] <muriani> depends on what you want
[17:05] <muriani> you can get 32GB pretty cheap
[17:06] <BobFrankly> that's what I was looking at, but thought I had seen something somewhere saying larger cards = slower on pi
[17:06] <willmore> The sd interface on the pi is slow enought that it won't benefit from high speed cards.
[17:07] <willmore> 'faster' SD cards are often optimized for large writes over small writes. Most workloads you'll see on the pi are small writes so these 'faster' cards don't perform as well.
[17:07] <BobFrankly> TBH, this is going to be the cpu for a MAME project I'm building
[17:07] <BobFrankly> so it'll be more reads then writes I would think
[17:07] <willmore> Then read speed may be the most important spec, then.
[17:08] <BobFrankly> is there a closely matching speed/class, or am I overthinking it ?
[17:08] <willmore> Pick a card with good read speed, then. I'm partial to the Samsung and SanDisk cards.
[17:08] <willmore> There was supposed to be at one point.
[17:08] <willmore> But it's a very vague spec and doesn't really mean much.
[17:08] <BobFrankly> same with sandisk, had a few non-sandisk failures
[17:09] <willmore> I have SanDisk C4 cards that beat the pants off of C10 Patriot cards.
[17:09] <BobFrankly> I'm overthinking it. Got it :D
[17:09] <willmore> Yes, :)
[17:09] <BobFrankly> rpi is completely new to me, so I'm trying to make sure I'm not cutting my legs off in the ordering process :D
[17:09] <dividuum> I just release a new version of my Lua/GL/OpenMax powered visualization tool for the pi: https://info-beamer.com/lnk/0.8.3 :-)
[17:10] <muriani> I've got transcend now and it's running great
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[17:10] <willmore> BobFrankly, no worries.
[17:10] <muriani> but yeah. Get the capacity you want
[17:10] <BobFrankly> 32 would be overkill/room for growth and experimentaion
[17:10] <muriani> I started with a 32
[17:10] <willmore> a Pi probably can't even keep up with gunzip as fast as a cheap SD card can provide it :)
[17:11] <BobFrankly> lol
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[17:11] <willmore> And your ROMs are probably zipped up.
[17:11] <willmore> So don't sweat it.
[17:11] <BobFrankly> I unzip em :D
[17:12] <BobFrankly> but I'm still in sub 8GB terriroty and trimming
[17:12] <willmore> Ahh, wasn't sure if the emulator did that for you. Some of the ones I use on my tablet will take zip'ed roms as is.
[17:12] <willmore> 16GB cards are cheap. :)
[17:13] <BobFrankly> any grounding issues I need to be concerned with? I'm planning to mount with standoffs to painted wood
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[17:15] <willmore> BobFrankly, What kind of board?
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[17:15] <BobFrankly> MDF
[17:15] <willmore> No, which Pi board.
[17:15] <willmore> :)
[17:15] <BobFrankly> rpi2
[17:16] <willmore> Are you worried about the standoffs shorting out the board?
[17:16] <SpeedEvil> BobFrankly: OSB supports overclocking better
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[17:16] * BobFrankly chuckles
[17:16] <BobFrankly> had to see what OSB was first :D
[17:17] <BobFrankly> probably does support OC better, because it likely breathes better :D
[17:17] <willmore> Not something you use for cabinetry is you want it looking pretty.
[17:17] <BobFrankly> of course paint ruins the breathing :D
[17:17] <willmore> 'chip board' I think it's called outside of NA.
[17:17] <SpeedEvil> willmore: OSB is not chipboard
[17:17] <willmore> SpeedEvil, no?
[17:17] <SpeedEvil> Chipboard has ~1-2mm particles -OSB 20-50mm
[17:17] <BobFrankly> chip board is what that stuff is usually called around here as well
[17:18] <SpeedEvil> At leat in the UK
[17:18] <BobFrankly> at least by those NOT in construction
[17:18] <willmore> Oh, yeah, that's not it.
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[17:18] <willmore> The small wood particle stuff is 'particle board' in NA.
[17:19] <willmore> The supersized cardboard is MDF.
[17:19] <BobFrankly> I did my arcade controller project over a year ago, and I'm still finding MDF dust from the routing...
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[17:19] <willmore> Route PCBs some day.
[17:19] <BobFrankly> no thank you :D
[17:19] <willmore> fiberglass and epoxy bits everywhere.
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[17:19] <willmore> I got a buddy to lathe some fiberglass insulators for me, once. He swore never to do that again. :(
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[17:20] <McBride36> lol
[17:20] <McBride36> set up vaccums
[17:20] <willmore> He did finish it, though.
[17:20] <willmore> Yeah, I think that's the way to do it.
[17:20] <BobFrankly> I've got a dust collector, but I'm still building out the process and getting organized
[17:20] <willmore> They were powerline guywire insulators that I needed cut down to make into insulators for a colinear antenna I was building.
[17:20] <McBride36> shops are never done
[17:20] <BobFrankly> ^^
[17:21] <willmore> Yep.
[17:21] <willmore> Like homeownership in general.
[17:21] <McBride36> can't wait to find that out myself, savin' up for a house
[17:22] <willmore> Good luck.
[17:22] <BobFrankly> I'm happy renting
[17:22] <BobFrankly> something breaks, phone call WITHOUT checking the bank balance
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[17:23] <McBride36> my dad builds houses for a living, i'd just call him lol
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[19:29] <derpingit> h iguys
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[19:38] <Froolap> hi
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[19:39] <Bilby> \o
[19:39] <Mut> Hello, could someone please help me set up an SSH server under Pidora?
[19:40] <Bilby> since it's fedora, i believe it uses yum
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[19:40] <Mut> I have ssh installed but I can't seem to get the ports to open.
[19:41] <Bilby> this guide says it should automatically open the port
[19:41] <Bilby> http://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-start-and-connect-to-ssh-server-on-fedora-linux
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[19:41] <Bilby> if it didn't, maybe see if you can open the port manuall
[19:42] <muriani> and you're sure the service is running?
[19:42] <ShorTie> on your firewall or the pi ??
[19:42] <Mut> On the Pi.
[19:42] <Mut> And yes.
[19:42] <Mut> it seems the iptables can't be updated.
[19:42] <ShorTie> like muriani said, you sure service is running
[19:43] <ShorTie> just because you install it, doesn't mean the service starts
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[19:44] <Mut> I know silly.
[19:44] <Mut> I ran the comand to start it.
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[19:45] <ShorTie> silly me hushs, have fun
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[19:46] <muriani> Dude, we were trying to help, no need for name-calling.
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[19:46] <ShorTie> again the rulez too, did you read the Topic ??
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[19:49] * Mut nods. "Just did."
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[19:52] <Mut> Here, let me try to explain this better.
[19:52] <wiiguy> silly = considered name calling ?
[19:53] <Mut> ^
[19:53] <wiiguy> if not, it should be
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[19:54] <Mut> Anyway like I was saying, I need to open port 22 on Pidora bit it says the iptables can't be updated.
[19:54] <muriani> is iptables itself running, and are you trying to update them as root?
[19:54] <muriani> I'm not sure if fedora still uses iptables
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[19:54] <Mut> How would I check that? With sudo.
[19:55] <Mut> it does.
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[19:55] <sauerkrause> Mut: are you sure it's not running firewalld?
[19:55] <muriani> well iptables --list should print the current chain iirc
[19:56] <Mut> Yes.
[19:56] <Mut> OK, hang on...
[19:56] <BobFrankly> silly is a gateway to extreme name calling, like pansy and smelly
[19:57] <sauerkrause> whoa now.
[19:57] * Mut giggles. "Sure."
[19:57] <BobFrankly> I'm teasing of course :D
[19:57] <Mut> Good.
[19:57] <Mut> Silly head.
[19:57] <BobFrankly> but I'm also new in here
[19:57] <BobFrankly> so what I say has no bearing :D
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[20:00] <Mut> https://i.imgur.com/kpwdCfJ.png
[20:00] <Mut> There you go.
[20:01] <muriani> doesn't systemctl normally return something when starting a service?
[20:02] <muriani> ps ax | grep ssh please?
[20:03] <Mut> https://i.imgur.com/wKiO5sC.png
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[20:04] <muriani> hm. It definitely *is* running there
[20:04] <muriani> dunno what the deal is with iptables
[20:04] <Ryzari> netstat -lpn .. maybe it's ust not on port 22
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[20:04] <muriani> oh, sudo iptables list
[20:04] <muriani> er, --list
[20:05] <sauerkrause> Mut: which version of fedora are you running?
[20:05] <Mut> 22 I think.
[20:06] <wiiguy> mut ay running a minecrafts erver on it ?
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[20:06] <wiiguy> server*
[20:06] <Mut> No.
[20:07] <wiiguy> why is it called mineserver ? :p
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[20:07] <wiiguy> bitcoin ?
[20:07] <Ryzari> mine(my)server?
[20:07] <Mut> Nu, I just suck at spelling.
[20:07] <wiiguy> AH
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[20:08] <wiiguy> let all know, i never actually asked
[20:08] <wiiguy> there is no prove !!!
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[20:09] <Mut> Hmhmhm.
[20:09] <Mut> https://i.imgur.com/OS4AFG0.png
[20:09] <Mut> Sorry it took so long.
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[20:13] <muriani> that's... the same image you posted earlier?
[20:13] <Mut> Wops.
[20:14] <Mut> https://i.imgur.com/4VVOTmg.png
[20:14] <Mut> Tere you go.
[20:14] <Mut> *there
[20:16] <muriani> is ip_tables listed when you lsmod?
[20:16] <Mut> Oh? That's the mod name?
[20:17] <muriani> that's what I'm getting from a cursory google search
[20:17] <muriani> if you lsmod you should see something recognizable as iptables?
[20:17] <muriani> if it's actaully there
[20:17] <muriani> otherwise try modprobe ip_tables?
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[20:18] <Mut> Nope that didn't work.
[20:19] <Ryzari> it's not being loaded in the kernel then
[20:19] <Mut> Yep.
[20:19] <Mut> That and I can't load it wirh mod probe.
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[20:21] <Godfath3r> hello everyone
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[20:22] <Mut> I'll do with later, I really need lunch. >_<
[20:22] <Godfath3r> is someone aware of a way to measure/present raspberry pis computation capabilities?
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[20:22] <Godfath3r> some sort of benchmark or anything like it?
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[20:22] <SpeedEvil> yes.
[20:23] <SpeedEvil> Run 'some sort of benchmark or anything like it' on it
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[20:23] * strobelight laughs
[20:23] <SpeedEvil> Or google raspberry pi benchmarks
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[20:25] <Ryzari> save ya the time.. Results: Unimpressive.
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[20:25] <muriani> eh
[20:25] <muriani> It's a $35 system
[20:25] <turtlehat> i dont know, gpu aided fft are pretty impressive for the price class
[20:26] <muriani> It's decent enough for the money :)
[20:26] <turtlehat> agreed
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[20:28] <MY123> turtlehat, for FFT, an ASIC is cheaper
[20:28] <MY123> and faster
[20:29] <turtlehat> yes, but not if yuo need to program it
[20:30] <muriani> Of course ASICs are cheaper
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[20:30] <muriani> er
[20:30] <muriani> yeah
[20:30] <muriani> but that's more hardware to deal with
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[20:30] <MY123> turtlehat, anyway, there is full GPGPU on the RPi
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[20:31] <MY123> (36Gflops on the RPi1 GPU)
[20:31] <turtlehat> that was kind of my point, sorry i singled out fft
[20:31] <MY123> (for Broadcom people,and RPF engineers, for me, GPU means VPUs + QPUs)
[20:32] <muriani> yeah
[20:32] <muriani> videocore is kinda cool like that
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[20:32] <muriani> once you take advantage of it
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[20:34] <McBride36> this is neat: http://blog.reasonablycorrect.com/raw-dpi-raspberry-pi/
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[20:35] <wiiguy> raspberry site down ?
[20:35] <MY123> wiiguy, yes
[20:35] <wiiguy> ah ok
[20:35] <MY123> The forum is offline for now
[20:36] <wiiguy> guess no apt update then :p
[20:36] <wiiguy> guess i will ahve to wait
[20:36] <MY123> muriani, the VPU is a full dual-core SMP CPU @250MHz with 16-way SIMD
[20:37] <MY123> It runs ThreadX which is @start.elf and the OpenGL|ES runs @ default with it with RPC calls from the ARM.
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[20:38] <muriani> MY123: yup
[20:39] <muriani> I didn't know that much details, but I knew it was a dualcore CPU
[20:39] <MY123> muriani, even the shader compiler runs in the GPU :-)
[20:39] <muriani> nice
[20:41] <MY123> muriani, https://github.com/freeblob/samples
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[20:41] <MY123> for some $(code)
[20:42] <MY123> You can see that it uses an ugly busyloop workaround
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[21:09] <MY123> RPF forums still offline
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[21:09] <IT_Sean> 7we know.
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[21:10] <MY123> IT_Sean, changing servers?
[21:10] <MY123> [to 1 thousand RPi2s?]
[21:10] <IT_Sean> Why are you asking me?
[21:10] <MY123> \anyway, will disconnect now
[21:10] <IT_Sean> I meant "we" as in "those of us in the channel"
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[21:18] <exobuzz> http://status.mythic-beasts.com/
[21:18] <exobuzz> in case anyone is wondering
[21:18] <exobuzz> the forums might be down, but what about my servers in SOV with mb ;-) much more important!
[21:18] <exobuzz> they are on it anyway
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[21:20] <shiftplusone> exobuzz, thanks
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[21:22] <IT_Sean> exobuzz: Noone cares about your servers! We want the Pi website back up! :p
[21:23] <exobuzz> :)
[21:24] <exobuzz> tell that to my customers who are skyping me
[21:24] <exobuzz> heh
[21:25] * IT_Sean disables exobuzz's skype account, thus solving his problem
[21:25] <exobuzz> good idea!
[21:25] <exobuzz> damn you are good
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[21:27] <englishman> hi
[21:27] <IT_Sean> exobuzz: I work in IT.
[21:27] <IT_Sean> hello englishman.
[21:27] <McBride36> never would've thought that
[21:27] <IT_Sean> No?
[21:27] <englishman> herro
[21:27] <exobuzz> you work innit ? :)
[21:27] <McBride36> nope, you give absolutely no indication about IT
[21:27] <IT_Sean> I work innit.
[21:27] <IT_Sean> McBride36: Good. I like to be subtle about it.
[21:27] <Ryccardo> IT_Sean: Italy isn't this good of a place to work in, tbh
[21:28] <englishman> is archive.raspberrypi.org down for anyone else
[21:28] <IT_Sean> no, not italy... I.T.
[21:28] <IT_Sean> englishman: Nope... it's just you. ...and the rest of the planet.
[21:28] <exobuzz> i work in IT, but i still had to phone a helpdesk when on site for a customer to work out how to turn on a monitor. the on button was totally hidden! honest..
[21:28] <exobuzz> need new glasses
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[21:28] <englishman> :)
[21:28] <Ryccardo> englishman: yup
[21:28] <IT_Sean> the entire site is fuzzy donuts.
[21:28] <exobuzz> http://status.mythic-beasts.com/
[21:28] <englishman> my apts werent getting
[21:29] * exobuzz hopes MB have someone in London, and they are not having to drive from Cambridge
[21:30] <exobuzz> they think there is a switch failure
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[21:31] <IT_Sean> Have they tried turning it off and on again?
[21:31] <exobuzz> lol
[21:31] <englishman> maybe theyre upgrading to rpi2
[21:31] <exobuzz> although the idea of emailing that amuses me, I wont ;-)
[21:31] <IT_Sean> exobuzz: DO IT!
[21:31] <IT_Sean> or give me the email address and I will.
[21:31] <exobuzz> lol
[21:31] <exobuzz> I want my servers to come back online eventually..
[21:32] <IT_Sean> :(
[21:32] <IT_Sean> Subject: Outage Body: Have you tried turning it off and on again? [send]
[21:33] <exobuzz> they are on the phone to the onsite engineers there too
[21:33] <IT_Sean> Have the onsite engineers tried turning it off an on again?
[21:33] <exobuzz> hehe
[21:35] <exobuzz> I think the cleaning lady unplugged the router to plug the kettle in
[21:35] <exobuzz> kettle/vaccuum.. read a bunch of tales like
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[21:36] <Matt> IT_Sean: I suggested that to someone in jest a few weeks back
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[21:37] <Matt> I was slightly surprised when they responded a few minutes later with "thanks - annoyingly that seems to have fixed the problem"
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[21:40] <exobuzz> hehe
[21:40] <BobFrankly> funny how often that happens
[21:41] <exobuzz> 2015-03-05 20:38 — we are still waiting for the data centre engineer to get to our equipment, and have been given an ETA of 8:45. We also have our own staff en route to the data centre.
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[21:43] <englishman> gmt?
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[21:43] <englishman> i guess so
[21:43] <IT_Sean> Matt: Awesome!
[21:44] <exobuzz> The retropie forums are online btw - http://blog.petrockblock.com/retropie/ </spam> ;-)
[21:44] <englishman> do people here perfer openelec or raspbmc
[21:45] <Matt> I run openelec at the moment
[21:45] <exobuzz> i prefer openelec on my pi, but if i wanted it to do anything other than kodi, I would use a full distro etc
[21:45] <englishman> i tried it out, seems really nice
[21:45] <Matt> but I really ought to roll a custom image so I can change the root password
[21:45] <exobuzz> matt - use public key instead ?
[21:46] <englishman> ehh, its on a home network, and still allows to disable ssh password
[21:46] <exobuzz> http://wiki.openelec.tv/index.php/Config_connect_ssh_wo_password
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[21:52] <Matt> I still dislike default root passwords
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[21:53] <[Ex0r]> Hmm, what is the other device like the pi, but has a gig of ram with it?
[21:53] <[Ex0r]> Can't remember what it's called, it was like $37 for the base one
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[21:54] <englishman> bananapi?
[21:54] <exobuzz> the pi2 ? :)
[21:54] <mortal> odroid c1?
[21:54] <[Ex0r]> nope
[21:54] <[Ex0r]> odroid im thinking
[21:54] <shiftplusone> pi 2?
[21:55] <[Ex0r]> wait, pi2?
[21:55] <exobuzz> yeh..
[21:55] <shiftplusone> had a feeling you didn't know =P
[21:55] <[Ex0r]> When did that come out? I just got a b+ on christmas and the 2 wasn't out yet..
[21:55] <exobuzz> http://www.pcpro.co.uk/components/1000356/raspberry-pi-2-review-the-pi-you-didnt-know-you-wanted
[21:56] <[Ex0r]> wtf... looks like its time for another upgrade!
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[21:56] <IT_Sean> [Ex0r]: mind the language please.
[21:56] <[Ex0r]> Does it have all the same stuff the other one did?
[21:56] <[Ex0r]> Sorry, got a little excited.
[21:56] <IT_Sean> cleary.
[21:56] <IT_Sean> *clearly
[21:57] <shiftplusone> and then some
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[21:57] <shiftplusone> well.. it's actually identical to the B+, just has quad core a7's and a gig of ram
[21:58] <[Ex0r]> I am going to have to check it out.. my current media center pi is the original model b, and its time to upgrade.
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[21:59] <sydney_untangle> [Ex0r]: I have your B+ then :P
[21:59] <shiftplusone> heh... twitter....
[21:59] <shiftplusone> <Raspberry_Pi> [06] We think someone may have taken a photo of our web server
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[22:00] <IT_Sean> shiftplusone: LOL!
[22:00] <exobuzz> :)
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[22:10] <Tenkawa> hi all
[22:11] <shiftplusone> Hello again
[22:11] <Tenkawa> miss anything interesting today?
[22:11] <TheLostAdmin> it depends on how you define interesting.
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[22:14] <englishman> zomg its back up
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[22:18] <McBride36> Tenkawa, you missed a lot of people telling us that archive.raspberrypi.org and the forums are down
[22:18] <McBride36> or were
[22:18] <Tenkawa> ouch
[22:18] <Tenkawa> what was the reason
[22:19] <McBride36> beats me
[22:19] <Tenkawa> ahh
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[22:23] <exobuzz> 2015-03-05 21:13 — we believe that the problem is now resolved. We will be checking for any machines that have been affected by the outage. If you are still seeing problems, please contact support@mythic-beasts.com.
[22:23] <exobuzz> yay
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[22:23] <Tenkawa> thats still ouch
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[22:25] <ShorTie> http://www.raspberrypi.org/ still seems lost in space
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[22:27] <ShorTie> interesting read http://blog.mythic-beasts.com/
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[22:29] <Tenkawa> time to run a rpi2 with an ssd soon
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[22:32] <Tenkawa> brb.. i hope
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[23:01] <Tenkawa> Can the rpi boot from attached sda without recompiling the kernel?
[23:01] <Tenkawa> (using an sd to bootloader)
[23:01] <shiftplusone> yup
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[23:02] <Tenkawa> do I need to add oe of the dts?
[23:02] <shiftplusone> nope
[23:02] <Tenkawa> it just sits waiting for sda1 to be found
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[23:02] <Tenkawa> I've got to be missing something simple
[23:02] <shiftplusone> can you capture the output in any way?
[23:02] <Tenkawa> nope
[23:02] <ShorTie> you changed cmdline.txt ??
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[23:02] <Tenkawa> ShorTie: yep
[23:02] <shiftplusone> if it's waiting for sda1.... of course.
[23:02] <Tenkawa> changed mmcblk0p2 to sda1
[23:03] <Tenkawa> shiftplusone: the usb attached drive is sda right?
[23:03] <Tenkawa> or another devicename?
[23:03] <Tenkawa> it was sda booted from sd
[23:03] <shiftplusone> yeah, it should be the same
[23:03] <Tenkawa> mmcblk0? i wouldnt think it would be that connected to the usb port
[23:04] <shiftplusone> same as in what it showed up as before... sda
[23:04] <Tenkawa> well crap
[23:04] <shiftplusone> no serial adapter?
[23:04] <Tenkawa> not handy.. boxed up
[23:05] <shiftplusone> serial adapters should really be mandatory... don't know how I'd get by without mine.
[23:05] <shiftplusone> what's the filesystem?
[23:05] <Tenkawa> well dang
[23:05] <ShorTie> can you boot to sdcard and then mount sda1 and see / ??
[23:05] <shiftplusone> well, I suppose if the filesystem wasn't supported, you'd get another error
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[23:05] <Tenkawa> its booted up on sd right now and fdisk -l definitely sees the /dev/sda
[23:05] <Tenkawa> ooogh
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[23:05] <shiftplusone> do you see a message about a hard drive being attached at all?
[23:06] <shiftplusone> (when trying to boot with root=/dev/sda1)
[23:06] <Tenkawa> found it!
[23:06] <Tenkawa> it "does" need a module
[23:06] <Tenkawa> to be loaded at boot time
[23:06] <shiftplusone> Are you not running the standard foundation kernel?
[23:06] <Tenkawa> ssg and uas
[23:06] <Tenkawa> shiftplusone: nope.. hexxeh's
[23:06] <Tenkawa> er sg not ssg
[23:07] <Tenkawa> well at least now I know "why"
[23:07] <shiftplusone> oh... so an exotic drive. No idea what you mean by hexxeh's though... he doesn't compile kernels
[23:08] <Tenkawa> I used his updater
[23:08] <shiftplusone> if you mean github.com/hexxeh/firmware, then that's the official kernel, just bleeding edge.
[23:08] <Tenkawa> kernel.. so wherever those come from
[23:08] <Tenkawa> ok
[23:08] <shiftplusone> don't use it without a good reason to do so.
[23:08] <Tenkawa> thats fine
[23:08] <Tenkawa> shiftplusone: I only run bleeding edge...
[23:08] <Tenkawa> I just needed to verify i wasnt losing my mind
[23:09] <Tenkawa> time to config an initrd
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[23:12] <Tenkawa> the nice times to have initrd
[23:12] <ShorTie> this on a rpi or rpi2 if i can ask ??
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[23:12] <Tenkawa> rpi2
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[23:13] <ShorTie> i'd sortta think on a rpi2 debian for arm7 would be more bleeding edge
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[23:15] <Tenkawa> I'm running debian
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[23:15] <Tenkawa> thinking of building up at least one slackware rpi
[23:16] <TheLostAdmin> I didn't know slackware was an official OS for the rpi.
[23:16] <Tenkawa> its not
[23:16] <Tenkawa> so?
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[23:16] <Ryccardo> I didn't know they have an ARM port either
[23:17] <TheLostAdmin> So, it means I'm not going to bother but I'm confident other people could port it.
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[23:17] <Tenkawa> Ryccardo: yep
[23:18] <Tenkawa> Ryccardo: hard float has been its difficulty
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[23:19] <Tenkawa> slackware was my first distrib
[23:19] <Tenkawa> back in 93/94
[23:20] <TheLostAdmin> Slackware was the only Linux I felt did it right.
[23:20] <Mut> Could someone help with this? https://i.imgur.com/LusB4Sb.png
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[23:21] <TheLostAdmin> Mut: people are going to want to see the details that were indicated as the place to look in the error message(s).
[23:21] <TheLostAdmin> Mut: and cool background.
[23:22] <Mut> You mean like what I did before I got this?
[23:22] <Mut> And thanks. ^///^
[23:22] <muriani> ok, I'd start by running journalctl -xn
[23:22] <TheLostAdmin> I mean like where it says "see 'systemctl status iptables.service' and 'journalctl -xn' for details. The out put of those commands
[23:22] <pksato> if is systemd system, I can not help. :)
[23:22] <muriani> that *might* give you the error messafe
[23:23] <muriani> unfortunately, it is systemd
[23:23] * Mut nods.
[23:23] <Mut> OK, one thing at a time but I'll get to it all.
[23:23] <TheLostAdmin> Mut: right now the best I can say is that something is messed up with your iptables config (that's software firewall stuff).
[23:24] <Tenkawa> systemd... shudder
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[23:24] <muriani> TheLostAdmin: yeah, he's been fighting that most of the day
[23:24] <TheLostAdmin> ah
[23:24] <TheLostAdmin> the easy answer is if you don't need a software firewall, turn iptables off.
[23:24] <Mut> I do need one as I want to use this as a server.
[23:25] <TheLostAdmin> I'm not the best person to debug this. In my opinion if it isn't BSD it is just wrong.
[23:25] * Mut giggles.
[23:25] <Mut> Can I use that on a Pi?
[23:25] <pksato> if not direct connected to internet, not need a firewall. Or you LAN is a danger zone?
[23:25] <TheLostAdmin> There is a FreeBSD port for the Pi, yes.
[23:26] <Mut> Oh? I may try that if this keeps falling.
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[23:28] <Tenkawa> hmm.. might have to throw fbsd on one of my pi2's
[23:28] * sydney_untangle snorts
[23:29] <sydney_untangle> If it isnt bsd its jsut wrong :P
[23:29] <sydney_untangle> Eh, i will jeep using my debian. :)
[23:29] <Ryccardo> Tenkawa: just be happy it doesn't have broadcom wifi :)
[23:29] <Mut> Sorry this is taking so long, everyone seems to want to talk to me today. >_<
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[23:30] <Tenkawa> Ryccardo: indeed
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[23:32] <TheLostAdmin> I'm wondering why I'm looking at a screenshot of QEMU with IPTables enabled. It would make more sense to have the software firewall on the host OS.
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[23:33] <Mut> I'm using QEMU to set up SSH so I can cintrol it that way as I don't have a monitor I can use. ^^;
[23:34] <ShorTie> it even more sense to me to have it between your modem and router to me
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[23:35] <ShorTie> firewall on a pc just hogs resources for no reason, imho
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[23:37] <Mut> Here we are.
[23:37] <Mut> https://i.imgur.com/9q4eqn1.png https://i.imgur.com/vpnYId5.png https://i.imgur.com/Hp3gO3C.png
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[23:40] <TheLostAdmin> Mut, I'm afraid that didn't help me understand how to fix it. I do have a few general suggestions that might help, though.
[23:41] <TheLostAdmin> First, I still don't understand the point of QEMU. If you need SSH to get to the RPI, then why not use SSH from the desktop (it looks like a Linux desktop so there's probably an ssh client already installed).
[23:42] <sydney_untangle> ShorTie: Oh, blocking 100 ads a day is nothing? Or sorting through my email and doing web cache? or scanning all my downloads and maintaining alot of backups? ;)
[23:42] <sydney_untangle> 1000*
[23:42] <TheLostAdmin> Second, connect the PRP up to a monitor and keyboard until you get this sorted out.
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[23:42] <Ryccardo> TheLostAdmin: it's faster (I believe) :)
[23:43] <TheLostAdmin> Third, try pastebin.org instead of all the screenshots on imgur. pastebin lets you past text.
[23:43] <ShorTie> sorry, i guess i do not understand
[23:44] <TheLostAdmin> Ryccardo: are you saying that QEMU on a modern desktop runs faster than a RPI? Probably. But it also might be causing the problem if he's doing this on an emulated system.
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[23:44] <TheLostAdmin> (or she, I don't actually know).
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[23:45] <azizLIGHT> can anyone recommend a decent powersupply. ive had 2 die already and its getting quite annoying
[23:45] <Ryccardo> I've surprisingly had the most success with a 7 € no-name thing
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[23:45] <azizLIGHT> i need it for both: pi 1 original, and pi2
[23:45] <ShorTie> how amp supply are you using ??
[23:46] <Ryccardo> it says 2,3 A but it actually has a 1 A socket and a 2,1 A one
[23:47] <Mut> Sorry, I was getting food.
[23:47] <azizLIGHT> the ones which died are: 100v-240v, 50/60hz, 5.25v dc 1a
[23:47] <azizLIGHT> both
[23:47] <azizLIGHT> pi just wouldnt boot up with them anymore, it blinks red
[23:47] <ShorTie> ya, 1a is not enough, imho
[23:47] <azizLIGHT> they were working ok for months
[23:47] <muriani> I can run it on 700mA
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[23:48] <Mut> Anyway, I don't own a monitor or the money to get one, I'm usinf QEMU to set up the SSH server so I can control it that way.
[23:48] <TheLostAdmin> No worries Mut. I can't really help much.
[23:48] <Mut> That's OK.
[23:48] <ShorTie> anything >= 2amp should be fine
[23:48] <Bilby> Pi1 @ 1A is fine if it's decent quality
[23:48] <muriani> sometimes PSUs that claim 1A aren't actually 1A
[23:48] <muriani> etc
[23:48] <Ryccardo> ^^^^^^^^^^
[23:48] <Bilby> pretty much that
[23:48] <azizLIGHT> i connected a blackberry blade microusb charger now that uses 5v 1.8a
[23:48] <ShorTie> pi1 can pass 1.1amp, so you can blow a 1amp supply
[23:48] <Mut> Thanks for trying, I'll just have to try another distro I think.
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[23:49] <azizLIGHT> i use it to charge my nexus5 with it, and calculated amperage on that comes out to 1600mAh
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[23:49] <muriani> Here's a good little article on how one of these things is sometimes not like the other: http://www.righto.com/2012/10/a-dozen-usb-chargers-in-lab-apple-is.html
[23:49] <azizLIGHT> should i just get more of this blackberry blade charger?
[23:49] <muriani> azizLIGHT: that's a decent one
[23:49] <muriani> also, love your nick
[23:50] <TheLostAdmin> Mut: start with raspbian. I don't understand why you need QEMU for ssh but okay.
[23:50] <azizLIGHT> :)
[23:50] <muriani> my fiancee and I are always calling for Aziz when we need a light turned on
[23:50] <ShorTie> and for safty sakes, you shouldn't draw anymore then 60-80% of rated current for any length of time, imho
[23:50] <azizLIGHT> muriani: hehehe, well i imagine youre still sitting in the dark
[23:50] <Bilby> @ muriani hah, I do the same thing with my wife
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[23:50] <muriani> I dunno, someone answers the call usually
[23:51] <azizLIGHT> hehe
[23:52] <azizLIGHT> problem with finding good chargers is that thers a lot of chinese knockoffs
[23:52] <muriani> yeah
[23:52] <Bilby> Mean Well, if you're being serius
[23:53] <muriani> most of mine are bought independently from reputable makers, or they're spares from devices that have decent chargers.
[23:53] <azizLIGHT> i found these blackberry blade chargers after lots of digging around on xda forums for nexus5 and certain ebay resellers
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[23:53] <muriani> yeah, I've heard those are good
[23:53] <azizLIGHT> i wish id gotten more
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[23:54] <Bilby> [Saint] suggested hitting up thrift stores for mobile device chargers
[23:54] <muriani> or pawn shops
[23:54] <Bilby> right
[23:54] <muriani> Ithik he said sometimes there's boxes of them
[23:54] <muriani> right now I'm using a samsung charger
[23:54] <Bilby> I think i need to go to more shifty thrift stores, the ones near me don't have anything like that :/
[23:54] <muriani> 700mA
[23:54] <Bilby> I have a blackberry charger and a couple of samsung chargers that work okay
[23:54] <muriani> although I think it's being supplemented by the USB connection to the lapdock
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[23:55] <Bilby> ... and a 30-Amp benchtop power supply. But that's kind of scary to use.
[23:55] <muriani> because i can unplug the samsung psu and the rpi still runs
[23:55] <azizLIGHT> thats a good idea. ill check some thrift stores
[23:55] <muriani> backpowered through the USB-A
[23:55] <azizLIGHT> haha you know i went to the extent of setting up a widget on my phone which shows amperage, and then asked stores to let me test the charger
[23:55] <azizLIGHT> most failed to meet stated amperage
[23:56] <Bilby> How do you know the widget is accurate?
[23:56] <Ryccardo> depends on kernel and hardware
[23:57] <azizLIGHT> it uses some internal android system files to calculate
[23:57] <azizLIGHT> i cant remember how
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[23:58] <azizLIGHT> theres also an app which does the same
[23:58] <Ryccardo> /sys/class/power_supply/battery/current_now
[23:58] <azizLIGHT> yea thats the file
[23:58] <azizLIGHT> you could do it yourself or get an app
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[23:58] * Ryccardo -436551 if you care
[23:58] <Bilby> interesting
[23:59] <azizLIGHT> might be on different places on different phones, like you said

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