#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-03-12

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[0:01] <[Saint]> Sites like that make me really bitter.
[0:01] <[Saint]> Its so cheap and easy to get unlimited, legal music, and yet people choose to be dicks about it.
[0:01] <[Saint]> ....sigh.
[0:01] <Cirrus_Minor> [Saint]: the latest commit pulls from youtube vids and music
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[0:02] <[Saint]> And that's supposed to be better?
[0:02] <[Saint]> There's nothing legal about that, either.
[0:02] <Cirrus_Minor> did i say it was better ?
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[0:03] <Cirrus_Minor> contact the developer or maybe github where its hosted if it irks you so much dood
[0:04] <Cirrus_Minor> rms approves
[0:04] <shiftplusone> Cirrus_Minor, nobody cares, just keep it out of Freenode.
[0:04] <[Saint]> ^ this
[0:04] <Cirrus_Minor> ok sorry
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[0:09] <chod> Cirrus_Minor: still looking, good stuff
[0:10] <Cirrus_Minor> cool chod i dont think there's anything else in there that would be frowned upon
[0:10] <Cirrus_Minor> maybe my code
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[0:16] <nissim> does anyone know where I can go to disable the accelerometer for my ps3 controller ?
[0:17] <nissim> i went to the sixad directory where the profile should exist and its empty
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[0:19] <Cirrus_Minor> nissim: maybe you need to create it ? im guessing
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[0:20] <nissim> i was worried you'd say that lol
[0:20] <nissim> i dont want to fuck it up.
[0:21] <Cirrus_Minor> nissim look in skel (default profiles go there) on many linux
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[0:21] <nissim> etc/skel ?
[0:21] <Cirrus_Minor> yer
[0:22] <nissim> mk ill have a look
[0:22] <nissim> it has to be some where because the controller is pairing fine & also the led for player 1 works
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[0:22] <Cirrus_Minor> also look in /etc/ for sixad
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[0:23] <nissim> nah no luck
[0:23] <nissim> in either
[0:23] <nissim> ill keep looking though
[0:24] <Cirrus_Minor> cd / && find sixad
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[0:25] <nissim> ok let me try that
[0:25] <nissim> "/etc/default/sixad" is the location it should be
[0:25] <nissim> but its empty
[0:26] <Cirrus_Minor> ok, looks like you gona have to create it, but should be a default one u can scp over and edit idk
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[0:27] <nissim> ok Cirrus_Minor i found this doc http://qtsixa.sourceforge.net/manual.pdf
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[0:27] <Cirrus_Minor> maybe search around google/github for one ( many folk dump their dotfiles on github)
[0:27] <nissim> on pg 5 do I just copy and paste that to a blank txt file and save as .cfg ?
[0:28] <Cirrus_Minor> nissim: yes it looks like it
[0:28] <Cirrus_Minor> comment/uncomment wot u need
[0:29] <Cirrus_Minor> try as is first tho
[0:30] <nissim> so # everything i dont need ?
[0:30] <Cirrus_Minor> 1 = yes 0 = no jic
[0:30] <nissim> and does file name matter ?
[0:30] <Cirrus_Minor> no everything after a # comment will not be seen
[0:30] <Cirrus_Minor> so other way around
[0:31] <Cirrus_Minor> try as is first
[0:31] <Cirrus_Minor> file name should matter
[0:31] <Cirrus_Minor> try config
[0:31] <nissim> config.cfg ?
[0:31] <Cirrus_Minor> no
[0:31] <nissim> just "config"
[0:32] <Cirrus_Minor> yessir
[0:32] <nissim> mk
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[0:32] <Cirrus_Minor> or could be sixad.conf
[0:32] <nissim> I wish they told us lol
[0:32] <nissim> made a whole pdf without mentioning it
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[0:35] <willmore> Is the audio output on the pi2 the same as the B+?
[0:35] <willmore> As in "good, but you probably don't want to play your music over it".
[0:35] <shiftplusone> yeah, none of that has changed
[0:36] <willmore> Okay. So I need to keep picking up cheap USB audio sticks when I can find them.
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[0:37] <willmore> Honestly, what I really want is just an S/PDIF (sp?) output. That would be ideal.
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[0:37] <willmore> I should look at the schematics for some of those audio boards and see what they do to manage one. I bet it's pretty darn simple.
[0:37] <nissim> Cirrus_minor seems to ignore it
[0:37] <Anorion> So, I ended up buying the AmazonBasics wall wart USB charger
[0:37] <Anorion> price was pretty good, and 2.1A
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[0:39] <Cirrus_Minor> nissim: idk m8 try starting sixad with sixad -c /path/to/configfile
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[0:40] <nissim> ok will do!
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[0:42] <willmore> nissim, using a ps3 controller with a pi?
[0:42] <nissim> yessir
[0:42] <nissim> through a BT adapter
[0:42] <plugwash> willmore, well what you would want is an I2S to spdif converter chip
[0:43] <willmore> plugwash, which is probably just a level converter/line driver, no?
[0:43] <nissim> just want to disable the annoying accelerometer
[0:43] <willmore> Or is there more protocol work to be done?
[0:43] <plugwash> Pretty sure there is some protocol work, I2S is seperate clock and data, SPDIF is a single line
[0:43] <willmore> nissim, let know what you find. I may be following in your footsteps before long. I got a controller for $19 on sale at fry's and it was too good of a deal to pass up.
[0:44] <willmore> plugwash, true, yeah, wasn't thinking of that.
[0:44] <willmore> I was assuming that the I2S controller had a sp/dif mode setting.
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[0:45] <nissim> willmore will do. I use a 360 controller on my pi but setting this up for a friend. 360 config was stupid easy, this one has been a pain.
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[0:47] <willmore> nissim, yeah, I saw that after I bought mine. If I had it to do, I would have gone that route. Oh, well.
[0:47] <willmore> 'do again...'
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[0:48] <plugwash> looks like theres a cheapish spdif board on banggood, no idea how well it works though
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[0:48] <plugwash> http://www.banggood.com/Specific-HIFI-DiGi-Digital-Sound-Card-For-Raspberry-Pi-AB-p-961775.html?currency=GBP&refreshTmp=1&utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping&utm_content=saul&utm_campaign=Electronic-xie-uk&gclid=COXn35--ocQCFRHLtAod8E0AkA
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[0:50] <nissim> is http://webchat.freenode.net/ the server url for this channel ?
[0:50] <Bilby> no
[0:51] <Bilby> freenode is the IRC network
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[0:51] <willmore> Hmm, plugwash the IR goes to the chip in the middle. And there only seems to be one chip. Wonder what that chip is..
[0:51] <Bilby> webchat is a browser-based IRC client hosted on the freenode web server
[0:51] <nissim> thanks Bilby
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[0:52] <plugwash> willmore, hifiberry have a similar (but more expensive board) which looks like it has a similar chip, I dunno if they release their schematics though
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[0:53] <willmore> wm8804 seems to be what it says. Ahh, Analog Devices bought the maker.
[0:53] <willmore> And now I have the datasheet.
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[0:55] <willmore> Yeah, it's just a i2s to s/pdif converter. Cool. Looks pretty darn simple to use. I wonder if they still do free samples?
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[0:56] <willmore> Oh, where's my brain? That's not AD, that's Cirrus! Do'ah!
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[0:58] <willmore> Looks like the CS8406 is just the transmitter for s/pdif which is all I need. Now, to see if they're compatable...
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[1:06] <nissim> has anyone in here ever created a custom sixad config ?
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[1:07] <shiftplusone> bah, how many times do I need to 'dislike' stuff on spotify before it stops playing it... useless functionality if they don't do anything with it.
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[1:11] <stevenjames> shiftplusone spotify is tired....we should open a new pandora or soundclick/soundcloud lmao
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[1:11] <shiftplusone> pandora is really good with taste profiles, but doesn't have much of the stuff I like.
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[1:20] <stevenjames> Iota calm the hell down
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[1:24] <stevenjames> Iota we talked about this
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[1:31] <Sonny_Jim> Well, it's not called a "IRC bouncer" for nothing...
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[1:32] <Sonny_Jim> boing
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[1:41] <aaa801> how can i drop to console from osmc ?
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[1:57] <ali1234> cool i have buildroot booting over USB
[1:57] <ali1234> what's the password though?
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[2:02] <abnormal> admin
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[2:03] <ali1234> nope
[2:03] <abnormal> pi is login, raspberry is pw
[2:03] <ShorTie> may not be one if you didn't set one
[2:04] <ali1234> nope
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[2:05] <willmore> If I download the standard raspbian image is pi2 support built in out of the box?
[2:05] <ali1234> yes
[2:05] <willmore> cool, thanks.
[2:05] <ShorTie> just so the image was made after like 2/1/2015
[2:06] <ali1234> it says on the downloads page what each image supports
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[2:08] <ali1234> the login is actually root/raspberry
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[2:14] <[Saint]> ali1234: its not, actually.
[2:14] <[Saint]> its pi / raspberry
[2:14] <Xark> Hmmm. New ssh in the Raspbian repro...I wonder what this fixed.
[2:15] <ali1234> yeah, okay, if you say so.
[2:15] <ali1234> the buildroot image doesnt even have a pi user
[2:15] <[Saint]> ali1234: check the download page dude...
[2:15] <Xark> However, pi is alloed as sudo-er. :)
[2:15] <Xark> allowed*
[2:15] <ShorTie> he's not doing raspbian, it's some buildroot thingy
[2:15] <jmak642> [Saint]: I managed to get my pi v2 working, needed the correct image and i was good to go. thanks for your help earlier
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[2:16] <ali1234> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10583148/
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[2:17] <[Saint]> Yeah, that's nice...
[2:17] <[Saint]> But, like I said, if you check the supplied images, click on "+more info":
[2:17] <[Saint]> Default login:pi / raspberry
[2:17] <[Saint]> Bam. Right there.
[2:17] <ali1234> lol.
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[2:19] <ali1234> https://github.com/raspberrypi/tools/blob/master/usbboot/buildroot.patch#L1279
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[2:20] <doomlord_1> does any web browser on the rpi handle youtube yet
[2:20] <shiftplusone> collabora's epiphany and maybe minimal kiosk browser?
[2:21] <doomlord_1> (i know there are ways of watching youtube on the rpi2) ^ i mean rpi2, not rpi
[2:21] <Xark> doomlord_1: Supposedly there is (a crappy) one that does. Still works best to cut the link and use get_flash_video and omxplayer (IMHO).
[2:21] <shiftplusone> rpi2, rpi1... doesn't matter.
[2:22] <Xark> doomlord_1: Ice Weasel (nee Firefox) will play it at a FPS. :)
[2:22] <[Saint]> I use youtube-dl piped to omxplayer
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[2:22] <[Saint]> well, use(d), past tense.
[2:23] <Xark> [Saint]: I think the get_flash_video is a wrapper script for that...
[2:23] <[Saint]> likely so.
[2:25] <[Saint]> ali1234: pretty sure that was linked for my "benefit", and, once again - yes, that's very nice, but in the supplied Raspbian images from RPF, its pi / raspberry
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[2:25] <[Saint]> I'm not sure why that's even being contested.
[2:26] <ali1234> nobody ever contested it
[2:26] <[Saint]> Ummmm, yeah, yeah you did.
[2:27] <[Saint]> <ali1234> the login is actually root/raspberry; <ali1234> yeah, okay, if you say so.; <links to patch trying to prove point that's totally irrelevant if that's not the given context>
[2:27] <shiftplusone> Ooh, are we trying to argue over nothing?
[2:27] <ali1234> (00:57:47) ali1234: cool i have buildroot booting over USB
[2:27] <ali1234> (00:57:55) ali1234: what's the password though?
[2:28] <ali1234> the login/password is root/raspberry
[2:28] <ali1234> the passwd file from the target confirms there is no pi user and the buildroot patch confirms that it sets the default root password to raspberry
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[3:26] <CoJaBo> rpi on csi cyber. nice
[3:27] <abnormal> yup
[3:27] <abnormal> and it's even getting further around the world...
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[3:32] <[Saint]> Raspi made several hilarious appearences on Arrow as well.
[3:33] <[Saint]> At one point, I believe they used s schematic diagram of a raspi as a diagram of an "explosive".
[3:33] <[Saint]> And there was a raspi sitting out on a table at one point scattered amongst various other "electronicy things" designed to look important and techy.
[3:34] <[Saint]> I guess the set designers used it because its cheap, and looks "techy".
[3:34] <[Saint]> And...seriously, you're watching CSI: Cyber?
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[3:35] <[Saint]> RIP: brain cells that were sacrificed in vain - we will miss you.
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[3:45] <willmore> [Saint], the wife and I are watching Arrow. Where are the pi sightings?
[3:46] <willmore> Ahh, okay, I should read further....
[3:46] <[Saint]> Season 2, IIRC.
[3:46] <willmore> friends don't let friends watch CSI.
[3:46] <willmore> Okay, that's where we are.
[3:46] <willmore> Near the end.
[3:46] <[Saint]> ep. 3 or 4 I think. Going from meory.
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[3:46] <[Saint]> (God I know too much about Arrow...)
[3:46] <willmore> Okay, I'll look back at it.
[3:47] <[Saint]> YouTube knows, ask it. lol
[3:47] <willmore> Did you enjoy the product placement?
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[3:47] <willmore> All hail youtube!
[3:47] <[Saint]> Ah - its used as a "tracking system", not an "explosive", my bad.
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[3:48] <willmore> Hmm, I think I remember that horrible plot point.
[3:48] <[Saint]> There's a few other instances I've caught in the series as well, The Interwebz likely knows about them.
[3:48] <willmore> Half of knowing something is knowing it exists and should be looked for.
[3:49] <[Saint]> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQok6v2p-mc&t=30
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[3:51] <willmore> Ahh, it's a mechanical mock up of the early rpi. Look at that big electrolytic cap!
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[3:51] <[Saint]> Its not a cap - its a thumb rest for prying out the microUSB power.
[3:51] <[Saint]> Everyone knew that!
[3:52] <[Saint]> (which is why they changed it, I assume)
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[3:52] <[Saint]> Soooooooooooo many people popped those 'lil suckers off.
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[3:53] <willmore> >.<
[3:54] <willmore> I used to be a people person, but people ruined that for me.
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[3:58] <[Saint]> Ms. [Saint] recently finished the 50 Shades of Oh God I can Literally Feel My Brain Cells Dying As I Read This Drivel trinity.
[3:59] <[Saint]> I took great delight in telling her that it was adapted to suit the mass market from a Twilight Saga fanfiction.
[3:59] <[Saint]> Its actually really weird if you change the names to Edward and Bella and imagine it then...
[4:00] <McBride36> it's just really weird in general
[4:00] <McBride36> i opened it to a random page and they were talking about ben wa balls...i put the book back down
[4:01] <CoJaBo> [Saint]: CSI Cyber is apperently not written by the normal CSI people
[4:01] <[Saint]> CoJaBo: precisely.
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[4:02] <[Saint]> The original CSI: * series are at least watchable if you have 40 minutes to kill (sans advertising).
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[4:02] <[Saint]> CSI: Cyber made me want to kill myself.
[4:02] <CoJaBo> lol why
[4:03] <CoJaBo> They actually use real things; no other show does that
[4:03] <McBride36> you sure? i'm fairly sure they've talked about VB to make a GUI
[4:03] <McBride36> that is real
[4:03] <[Saint]> Its *so* deteched from the real world its not even funny. Its not even remotely close to how digital forensic analysis is done.
[4:03] <[Saint]> When I first saw it advertised, I said to myself "I bet they'll have an emo chick and a fat guy with a beard"
[4:04] <CoJaBo> Yep
[4:04] <CoJaBo> That's required by law.
[4:04] <[Saint]> ...first episode, ~10 minutes in, bingo! fat guy with a beard.
[4:04] <[Saint]> And then...emo chick!
[4:04] <CoJaBo> lol
[4:04] <[Saint]> It was like playing "cliche stereotype bingo"
[4:04] <CoJaBo> It's a LOT closer than regular CSI tho
[4:04] <[Saint]> Well, granted.
[4:04] <[Saint]> But...Gibbs.
[4:04] <CoJaBo> No more IP-tracking VB GUIs
[4:05] <CoJaBo> Normal CSI: "Enhance! Zoom into that screw-reflection! Rotate 90°... on the Z AXIS!!"
[4:05] <CoJaBo> CSI Cyber: "Let's treat these shots as bracketed exposures and create an HDR composite! There, it's moderately less grainy!"
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[4:05] <[Saint]> I love the cut scenes, that's how you know they're doing "cyber-stuff", its all...cyber...and...stuff.
[4:05] <CoJaBo> The cutscenes are awful
[4:06] <McBride36> nothing can happen without a montage
[4:06] <CoJaBo> "Packet: release malworm" .........:/
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[4:06] <[Saint]> s/cutscenes are/whole program is/g
[4:07] <CoJaBo> They breached an airgapped network in a vaguely plausible way. And used the word "airgapped" correctly. Gotta give em points for that at least xD
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[4:07] <[Saint]> I love the shots they do of "the world supply of CAT cables in overhead racking".
[4:07] <[Saint]> That's how you know its serious business.
[4:07] <CoJaBo> lol
[4:07] <[Saint]> Those are CSI grade CAT cables.
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[4:09] <CoJaBo> [Saint]: The one that just ended had the "basement hacker with cables and screens everywhere scrolling random gibberish" cliche
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[4:11] <[Saint]> Kidnapping 2.0; CMND:\Crash; ...;URL, Interrupted
[4:11] <[Saint]> Oh God screenplay writers, just kill yourselves.
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[4:13] <Ullarah> You know they do it for a reason right?
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[4:14] <shiftplusone> hmm turns out, jenkins doesn't go well with pi.
[4:15] <Ullarah> shiftplusone, depends what you are building :P
[4:15] <shiftplusone> nothing
[4:15] <Ullarah> rofl
[4:15] <Ullarah> I have one that just builds spigot for me every 3 days.
[4:15] <Ullarah> That's all the RPi does :P
[4:16] <shiftplusone> Does the master run on the pi?
[4:16] <Ullarah> Yep.
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[4:16] <shiftplusone> I'm finding that just navigating through it shoots the CPU usage up and it takes quite a while for pages to load
[4:17] <Ullarah> I could just have it build by cron, but it was an experiment, so I kept it going.
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[4:18] <Ullarah> shiftplusone, you could try, https://github.com/Strider-CD/strider
[4:19] <shiftplusone> thanks, I'll try it
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[4:27] <Ullarah> I ask this everyday hoping for a response, how does DosBox on a RPi2 compare to the earlier models?
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[4:30] <Xark> Ullarah: Without trying, it is a safe bet at least 1.6 times faster (perhaps more if it can utilize NEON etc. - doubt it). :)
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[4:32] <Xark> Ullarah: A forum post here http://www.raspberrypi.org/benchmarking-raspberry-pi-2/ claims "Dosbox compiled with dynamic core for B+: Struggles to play wolfenstien 3D smoothly (286/early 386 era) Dosbox compiled with dynamic core for 2B with neon: Wolf3d is smooth as butter and descent (late 486 era) has a reasonable frame rate."
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[4:34] <Ullarah> Thanks Xark! :)
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[4:34] * plugwash doubts neon will help much with the core emulation (though I guess it may help with some perhiperal stuff)
[4:35] <Xark> plugwash: Agreed. -mthumb could help...
[4:35] * plugwash is doubtful of that too
[4:36] <Xark> plugwash: I can see it causing issues for Dosbox (with DRC), however, in my tests it has been like 3-5% faster than ARM32 (presumably due to smaller executable).
[4:36] <Ullarah> Doesn't mthumb just reduce the size, that wouldn't increase performance.
[4:36] * Xark notes Thumb2 is pretty nice (don't confuse with crappy Thumb1). :)
[4:37] <plugwash> It does depend a bit on the code in question, thumb2 reduces code size which can reduce cache presure which can potentially improve performance
[4:37] <Xark> Ullarah: Well, smaller size can mean increased performance (fore sure in my tests - and this is also my professional experience on some ARM devices [for games]).
[4:37] <Ullarah> Ah ok, I'll have to look thumb2 up then ^_-
[4:37] <plugwash> BUT thumb2 can increase the number of instructions the core must execute to perform a given task
[4:37] <Ullarah> THUMBS UP!
[4:37] <Ullarah> Sorry.
[4:37] <Xark> plugwash: Try it, as I said it is faster on my code. :)
[4:38] <plugwash> most of the reports i've seen say "no noticable difference"........
[4:38] <Xark> plugwash: I suspect it depends. However, it is sure to be smaller, so even if no faster a minor win.
[4:38] <plugwash> Xark, to confirm this was on pi2 with otherwise identical compile options?
[4:39] <Xark> Yes, using g++-4.8
[4:39] <Xark> I believe I had -static -mcpu=cortex-a7 -mfpu=neon-vfpv4 -O3 -mthumb (and without thumb). Smaller and faster with thumb2.
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[4:39] <shiftplusone> Hm? I just fired up dosbox and played prince of persia... pretty sure it was laggy on the pi 1.
[4:40] <shiftplusone> oh, nvrm
[4:40] <Xark> This was on a C++11 "macro assembler" I wrote on a huge asm file.
[4:40] <shiftplusone> missed that you were talking about thumb2
[4:40] <Ullarah> I'm gonna have to order a RPi2 and hook all 3 up and do a proper dosbox test :P
[4:41] <Ullarah> B, B+, 2 :P
[4:41] <shiftplusone> b and b+ will be the same
[4:41] <Ullarah> 256mb ^_-
[4:41] <Xark> Ullarah: Yeah. I am disappointed Google didn't find some good benchmarks. :)
[4:41] <Ullarah> Heehee.
[4:41] <shiftplusone> I don't think dosbox would use anywhere near that
[4:41] <Ullarah> Xark, I know right? They have comparisons for everything else! :P
[4:42] <Ullarah> I use one of my RPi mainly for scummvm and dosbox :P
[4:42] <Xark> Ullarah: Indeed. Who cares about "Sunspider" (terrible game). :)
[4:42] <Ullarah> Hahaha
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[4:43] <Ullarah> There is rpix86, but never used it, so not sure if it's better/worse than dosbox.
[4:44] <Ullarah> I know it's probably less compatible.
[4:44] <Xark> I also saw something called FastDOSBox...
[4:44] <plugwash> Xark, hmm, most of the comparisions I heard about were quite some time ago, it's possible your code is an unusual case, it's also possible that the A7 has different characteristics in this regard than the A8 and A9
[4:44] <Xark> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?&t=44406
[4:44] <Ullarah> Xark, that is just recompiled dosbox with dynamic core :P
[4:44] <Ullarah> There is /no/ difference :P
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[4:45] <Xark> plugwash: Maybe. Thumb2 was also faster on PSVita (for what it is worth). Similar cortex architecture.
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[4:45] <Xark> Ullarah: I see
[4:47] <Xark> plugwash: I think if you look at what compiler generates for thumb2, it is rarely more opcodes, but often 16-bit ones. ARM32 mostly wastes bits on condition codes etc., that are better spent on other things.
[4:48] * Xark finds "if-then-else" opcode pretty clever in Thumb2 (vs condition bits all over)
[4:49] <Ullarah> Interesting, "~16.5 fps on doom (-timedemo demo3) - an increase of 3-4 fps. Pretty decent :) (this is on an overclocked rpi2 @1ghz)" @ http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=78&t=95421
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[4:51] * Xark notes according to ARM "Thumb-2 has the performance close to or better than that of the ARM instruction set and has the code density of the original Thumb ISA." -> http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.ddi0338g/ch01s02s01.html
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[4:53] * Xark notes "compare and branch on zero/non-zero" is also a nice 16-bit Thumb2 opcode (that compilers can easily use).
[4:53] <lickalott> gents, what are you thoughts on the vilros wireless adapter vs any other?
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[4:58] <Ullarah> lickalott, if it works, then yay, if it doesn't, get another one :P
[4:59] <lickalott> LOL! thanks Ullarah.
[5:00] * Xark has been happy with Edimax WiFi dongle (effortless support and seems to work nicely).
[5:00] <lickalott> My buddy got one for his pi 2 and he says it works, but he runs his mostly hardwired. I just threw one in my garage and wireless would be my only source of internet so i was wondering if someone had a better one in mind.
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[5:03] <shiftplusone> +1 for those edimax nano ones
[5:03] <shiftplusone> they have a good chipset
[5:04] <lickalott> http://www.edimax.com/edimax/merchandise/merchandise_detail/data/edimax/global/wireless_adapters_n300/ew-7722utn_v2/
[5:04] <lickalott> ^ those?
[5:04] <shiftplusone> unlike 80% of dongles out there which just seem to use the cheapest one which doesn't even have hardware decoding.
[5:04] <shiftplusone> I only have experience with these ones http://www.edimax.com/edimax/merchandise/merchandise_detail/data/edimax/global/wireless_adapters_n150/ew-7811un
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[5:05] <lickalott> pretty easy to configure on the pi?
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[5:05] <shiftplusone> yeah
[5:05] <lickalott> i'm only running the B in the garage
[5:06] <Xark> lickalott: I think I have a cheaper version...
[5:06] <Ullarah> I use a Netgear WNA1000M :P
[5:06] <Xark> lickalott: Mine is like http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Edimax/EW7811UN
[5:07] <Ullarah> One of these, http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/like/371088381390
[5:07] <shiftplusone> Ullarah, I think that has the same chipset
[5:07] <Ullarah> Probably :P
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[5:08] <lickalott> does this do well for streaming, say 1080p?
[5:08] <Ullarah> Well I don't stream a lot.
[5:08] <shiftplusone> I don't use it that way either
[5:08] <Ullarah> Ethernet would be better for streaming.
[5:09] <shiftplusone> a gbit adapter would work best (lets you use more of the usb bandwidth than the 100mbit you get otherwise)
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[5:09] <lickalott> thats my issue. I don't have any network drops in the garage and it's a two story so it's either wirelss or PLE
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[5:10] <Ullarah> lickalott, powerline adapter?
[5:10] <lickalott> yeah
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[5:10] <lickalott> i'm not a fan....but I'm short on options at this point.
[5:10] <Ullarah> Those are hit and miss sometimes :P
[5:10] <lickalott> i tried a set and immediately ripped them out of the wall
[5:10] <Ullarah> LOL
[5:11] <shiftplusone> I'm using a power line adapter at home.... can't complain
[5:11] <Ullarah> ...yet :P
[5:11] <lickalott> i was getting 3mbps to the device. I have a 55mbps account
[5:12] <lickalott> basically i have a TV and rpi out there so i can watch stuff while I'm reloading. It will mostly be tv shows and 720 type movies. I have a WDTV in the living room and it seems to stream fine from the server over wireless but I don't know what the internal wireless chipset is.
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[5:14] <lickalott> could one assume that if the 150 works the 300 will be okay? - http://www.amazon.com/Edimax-EW-7722UTn-Wireless-Mini-Sized-Adapter/dp/B005GSGPDM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1426133606&sr=8-1&keywords=EW-7722UTn+V2
[5:15] <shiftplusone> not without knowing the chipset
[5:15] <Ullarah> Most adapters should work fine.
[5:15] <shiftplusone> yeah, but some may require you to build an external module
[5:15] <Ullarah> Which isn't too hard.
[5:15] <shiftplusone> and since we don't provide kernel headers yet, it's a little fiddly
[5:16] <Ullarah> I had to compile drivers for my wifi way back when :P
[5:16] <shiftplusone> it isn't hard if you know what you're doing, but if you're a beginners, it's quite a lot information to digest
[5:16] <Ullarah> Yeah, true.
[5:16] <lickalott> would it not be the same shiftplusone ? it's the next model up from the 150
[5:16] <shiftplusone> Hey, I still have nightmares about compiling Nvidia TNT2 drivers when I was a beginner D=
[5:17] <shiftplusone> lickalott, i highly doubt they use the same chipset in both versions, that doesn't make sense.
[5:19] <Ullarah> shiftplusone, Early days of compiling, https://youtu.be/evlrs5Bi_6E?t=1m25s
[5:19] <shiftplusone> heh
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[5:20] <lickalott> i'm gonna try the edimax 150. it's only $10 on amazon, what do i have to lose.
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[5:20] <shiftplusone> $10
[5:21] <lickalott> lol
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[5:21] <shiftplusone> I'd rather get a few sandwiches for that price.
[5:22] <Ullarah> It'll take me at least 5 weeks to save up for an RPi2 :P
[5:22] <lickalott> done
[5:22] <Ullarah> Good luck lickalott! ^_^
[5:22] <lickalott> i'll let you know how it works out
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[5:23] <lickalott> Ullarah, just the board or the kit?
[5:23] <Ullarah> Board :P
[5:24] <lickalott> this is pretty slick - http://www.amazon.com/CanaKit-Raspberry-Ultimate-Starter-Components/dp/B00G1PNG54/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1426134173&sr=8-6&keywords=rpi+2
[5:25] <shiftplusone> or... just buy the things you need and don't waste money
[5:25] <shiftplusone> then you can have more money for sandwiches.
[5:25] <lickalott> lmfao!
[5:26] <lickalott> i'm lazy and impatient. and I have a wife for sandwich making
[5:26] <Ullarah> I wonder if it's possible to reverse one of the usb ports.
[5:26] <shiftplusone> reverse?
[5:26] <Ullarah> As in point it inwards.
[5:26] <shiftplusone> w....why?
[5:26] <Ullarah> At the moment I have one of the ports remove and have soldered the wifi onboard :P
[5:27] <shiftplusone> that's... odd.
[5:28] <Ullarah> Why is that odd? It's so I can keep it slimmer.
[5:28] <Ullarah> I 3d print my cases and keep it in a nice small package.
[5:29] <Ullarah> I have a wifi and bluetooth adaptor connected directly to the board, the only thing that sticks out is the hdmi cable and usb power :P
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[5:30] <nizmow> anyone know how quick you can push gpio on a pi2?
[5:30] <nizmow> say, making a square wave
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[5:30] <shiftplusone> using what language?
[5:31] <nizmow> I saw some benchmarks for the pi that suggests 22MHz with native C libaries
[5:31] <nizmow> shiftplusone: whatever is fastest :)
[5:31] <shiftplusone> wiringpi
[5:31] <nizmow> right, ok
[5:31] <Cessna1090> is it possible to have 2 dallas 1-wire (w1-gpio) devices running at the same time?
[5:31] <nizmow> and i2c can clock higher than 1MHz from the looks...
[5:32] <shiftplusone> nizmow, what's this for?
[5:32] <nizmow> shiftplusone: hmm
[5:32] <nizmow> considering writing a gameboy cartridge emulator in software
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[5:32] <nizmow> the pi2 might actually be quick enough
[5:32] <nizmow> gameboy cartridge slot clocks at 1MHz
[5:32] <shiftplusone> I think SPI is the fastest thing there, but depending on the application....
[5:32] <shiftplusone> oh... that's easy
[5:32] <nizmow> might not have enough pins tho
[5:33] <nizmow> so I may have to... maybe use i2c for writes or something
[5:33] <nizmow> yeah, could be fun
[5:33] <nizmow> after that I'm going to try some other crazy shit, like maybe a disk drive emulator for old machines
[5:33] <shiftplusone> you can just disable i2c, uart and all that and use them as normal gpio pins
[5:33] <shiftplusone> you need about 20 pins, right?
[5:33] <nizmow> oh
[5:34] <nizmow> sweet! I didn't know that
[5:34] <nizmow> um, well
[5:34] <nizmow> clock, 16 addr, 8 data
[5:34] <nizmow> read/write pins
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[5:34] <nizmow> if I can disable uart and i2c and use as io
[5:34] <nizmow> then there'll be enough on a B+/pi2
[5:34] <shiftplusone> yeah, I think you've got plenty to work with
[5:35] <nizmow> awesome
[5:35] <nizmow> I dont' know much about gpio on pi
[5:35] <nizmow> done some on arduino, but I like the idea of a pi solution
[5:35] <shiftplusone> same as gpio on anything else really
[5:35] <shiftplusone> except keep in mind it's 3.3v and not advertised as 5v tolerant
[5:36] <Ullarah> nizmow, are you making a gb cart dumper? :P
[5:36] <nizmow> Ullarah: opposite
[5:36] <Ullarah> Reader?
[5:36] <nizmow> a gb cart emulator
[5:36] <shiftplusone> a dumper would be too easy!
[5:36] <Ullarah> Interesting.
[5:36] <nizmow> ie: plug to gameboy
[5:36] <nizmow> ./fakecart tetris.gb
[5:36] <Ullarah> Oh. Plug IN to gameboy!?
[5:36] <nizmow> that's the plan
[5:36] <Ullarah> Wow. Count me in as interested.
[5:36] <nizmow> there'll be a few sacrificial gameboys...
[5:36] <Ullarah> I have 2 gameboy colours.
[5:37] <Ullarah> Would be very interested.
[5:37] <shiftplusone> You make me want to get my C64 out and do the same =D
[5:37] <nizmow> I've got a couple of gameboys lying around
[5:37] <nizmow> shiftplusone: that's also the extended plan!
[5:37] <shiftplusone> but I have work to do =(
[5:37] <nizmow> hook a pi up to the disk port
[5:37] <shiftplusone> though the work is awesome so... can't complain.
[5:37] <nizmow> and yeah, 5v is annoying
[5:37] <nizmow> http://www.adafruit.com/product/395 -- few of those I guess
[5:37] <shiftplusone> nizmow, any bidirectional signals?
[5:38] <shiftplusone> you can just use a voltage divider to read and write the 3.3v (it will probably register)
[5:38] <shiftplusone> or use a buffer
[5:38] <doomlord_1> i dont suppose a Pi can use an external GPU..
[5:38] <Ullarah> The hard carts to emulate would be the ones with the RTC clocks wouldn't they?
[5:39] <Ullarah> doomlord_1, never heard of anything, but you never know!
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[5:39] <doomlord_1> pci interface etc. i guess anyone who might want that would just get a cheap amd motherboard/cpu
[5:40] <nizmow> shiftplusone: hmm... I'm a software dev and haven't messed with a great deal of electronics yet, luckily the electronics for this project are pretty basic aside from that
[5:40] <Ullarah> I think if you did end up getting an external GPU, you would be limited with the CPU.
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[5:40] <nizmow> bidirectional, yeah the data pins can be used for input or output (writing save games)
[5:40] <Ullarah> The only thing I've done with GPIO ports is flash my router :P
[5:41] <shiftplusone> ah.... then I'd use a combination of voltage dividers, a 74AC541 and the one you linked to cover all the bases.
[5:41] <nizmow> ah ok
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[5:41] <doomlord_1> certainly i wouldn't expect a pi to match an intel or even AMD chip, but some graphics code would still benefit.. whatever the pi can do with its' own gpu, just scale up the resolution. (render the same scenes with higher resolution, more detailed shaders, higher triangle counts..) - its just drawcalls that would bottleneck surely
[5:42] <doomlord_1> oh of course the ARM would be more closely coupled to the internal gpu on the same SOC than on an external interface, fair enough.
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[5:43] <shiftplusone> anyway.... back to work.
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[5:49] <nizmow> hmm
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[5:49] <nizmow> I think a difficulty is going to be getting some of the timing right -- gameboy is really annoying
[5:50] <Ullarah> Ah, you'll get there nizmow, I believe in you!
[5:50] <nizmow> for example, after clock high it seems to be ~200ns until the address is ready on the bus
[5:50] <nizmow> Ullarah: thanks bro :D
[5:50] <shiftplusone> do you have a scope?
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[5:57] <nizmow> shiftplusone: no, I was going to look at buying a second hand analogue scope somewhere
[5:57] <nizmow> for this level work a 10-20MHz one would do I guess
[5:57] <nizmow> in case you hadn't noticed, this is the first time I've had a nice idea which would involve me gathering all this equipment. it might be a little ambitious, but not terribly so...
[5:57] <nizmow> however I found this
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[5:58] <nizmow> http://dhole.github.io/post/gameboy_cartridge_emu_1/ -- http://dhole.github.io/media/gameboy_stm32f4/screen_dump_read_timings.png
[5:58] <nizmow> thank you kind stranger
[5:58] <nizmow> (not all addr / data pins shown)
[5:58] <shiftplusone> ah, I was just going to suggest you try to generate some waveforms and note the jitter and frequency
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[5:58] <shiftplusone> I think you'll find that the pi will cope just fine
[5:58] <nizmow> so someone has basically done this on arduino
[5:58] <nizmow> hmm, it's that 150ns gap that I'm worried about -- not sure Linux will cope
[5:59] <Ullarah> Wow. 150ns!
[5:59] <shiftplusone> heh, and stm32f4 is no arduino XD
[6:00] <nizmow> hm, you're right. pretty hefty machines
[6:01] <nizmow> right
[6:01] <nizmow> I gotta go, thanks for the tips guys. further experimenting this weekend!
[6:01] <Ullarah> Have fun!
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[6:14] <xMopxShell> Hi, I just set up my raspi2. But it’s detecting my 1080p monitor as 1824x984?
[6:14] <Ullarah> ._.
[6:15] <Ullarah> xMopxShell, put in config.txt: disable_overscan=1
[6:15] <shiftplusone> that shouldn't affect the resolution
[6:16] <shiftplusone> but yes, edit config.txt to set the right display mode
[6:16] <Ullarah> xMopxShell, shiftplusone, http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5786
[6:16] <shiftplusone> you can use tvservice to dump the modes your tv claims to support
[6:16] <xMopxShell> Ullarah: i tried the overscan setting both ways using raspi-config
[6:16] <Ullarah> xMopxShell, http://wiki.raspberrytorte.com/index.php?title=HDMI_Configuration
[6:16] <Ullarah> That should give you a couple more pointers.
[6:17] <shiftplusone> Ullarah, I sit corrected.
[6:17] <xMopxShell> oh
[6:18] <xMopxShell> i did something in raspi config and now its fullscreen
[6:18] <xMopxShell> weird
[6:18] <Ullarah> Find out what changed so that you can fix it in future.
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[6:19] <Ullarah> If you can, output your config.txt in pastebin or dpaste
[6:19] <shiftplusone> My brain failed and decided 1080p < 1824x984, so yeah.... it's that overscan option.
[6:19] <Ullarah> shiftplusone, Yeah, that was me too, need another coffee! :P
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[6:22] <shiftplusone> I'm way past coffee... it's 5am. It's almost bed time.
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[6:22] <Ullarah> It's 3:20pm here :P
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[6:23] <shiftplusone> no sleep until the sammich shop opens though... haven't eaten in a few days >.>
[6:24] <Ullarah> shiftplusone, need to invest in a slow cooker. Cook up meat, eat for a week :P
[6:24] <shiftplusone> yeah all my housemates seem to have their own slow cookers...
[6:25] <shiftplusone> perhaps there's a reason for that
[6:25] <shiftplusone> I've been living on takeout and pizza, which is not a good long term solution.
[6:26] <Ullarah> Expensive!
[6:26] <Ullarah> You can make a pizza in a slow cooker!
[6:26] <shiftplusone> what? madness
[6:26] <Ullarah> shiftplusone, come join us in /r/slowcooking :P
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[6:26] <shiftplusone> heh
[6:27] <shiftplusone> looks like people take their slowcooking seriously
[6:29] <Ullarah> They really do.
[6:29] <Ullarah> Plus it smells better than candles.
[6:29] <Ullarah> And you get to eat it!
[6:29] <Ullarah> Win/win
[6:29] <shiftplusone> aint nobody got time for that
[6:31] <Ullarah> shiftplusone, easy, fill slow cooker with tasty beverage, chuck in meat, leave it for 6-8 hours, hooray!
[6:31] <Ullarah> Then freeze the rest.
[6:31] <Ullarah> My wife and I do freezer feeding on sundays, we cook up a storm for 4 weeks in advance.
[6:31] <shiftplusone> to bring this back to the pi... they were testing the Chef HAT in the office to slow-cook things in an aquarium... >_<
[6:31] <Ullarah> Oooooh.
[6:32] <Ullarah> Got a link?
[6:32] <shiftplusone> the heating element broke XD
[6:32] <Ullarah> rofl
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[6:32] <shiftplusone> Nuh, no link
[6:32] <Ullarah> Dang :P
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[10:49] <Jusii> is there way to determine if audio is enabled on hdmi? more details:
[10:50] <Jusii> if audio capable display is connected when Pi is powered on, it will detect hdmi audio support and enable it. If I power Pi without display and plug it after few seconds, audio isn't enabled.
[10:51] <Jusii> I can then use tvservice -o ; tvservice -p to make Pi re-detect HDMI audio support, and if the display is now connected and supports audio, audio will be enabled on hdmi
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[10:51] <ShorTie> might be like video and goes out the 3.5mm jack, if hdmi is not hooked up at boot
[10:52] <Jusii> what I'm trying to do is so that IF there's currently no audio enabled on hdmi, THEN I would -o / -p to get it enabled. BUT, if audio is already there, then I wouldn't need to do that
[10:52] <Jusii> yeah that exactly happens then
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[10:55] <Jusii> I tried config options to always enable audio, even when not detected. Ok, it works, audio is enabled on HDMI but then DVI connected displays get flickerin...
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[11:01] <ShorTie> best i can say is tvservice is part of userland, so you could dig threw the sources to figure out how it does it maybe https://github.com/raspberrypi/userland
[11:01] <Jusii> ah, thanks
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[11:01] <Jusii> I'll dig into that
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[11:03] <Jusii> so far I've found that using tvservice -d to dump edid data to file and then use edidparser I can figure out if the display supports audio. But so far couldn't find the current status of it
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[11:04] <AirForce590> Yo
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[11:05] <AirForce590> How can I stream video from a USB cam on the rPi to a webpage on an adhoc network that the pi creates?
[11:06] <AirForce590> I have a usb Wifi dongle for the Pi as well
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[11:07] <AirForce590> chispas-elek: sup
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[11:09] <AirForce590> hey lazy_prince
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[11:20] <shiftplusone> Jusii, didn't notice you found the edid stuff. I asked the folks here and they say that the edid may tell you.
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[11:20] <shiftplusone> doesn't help you though, since I don't know the specifics >.>
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[11:27] <Jusii> shiftplusone: yeah that info I can find, but I can't figure out what's the current status in Pi, has the Pi audio enabled on HDMI or not.
[11:27] <shiftplusone> you can't ask alsa?
[11:28] <Jusii> no alsa in use
[11:28] <shiftplusone> =S
[11:28] <Jusii> we use only omxplayer
[11:29] <shiftplusone> not sure what you mean by 'current status in pi then'
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[11:30] <Ryccardo> what sound driver are you using, then? o.o
[11:30] <shiftplusone> Ryccardo, omxplayer talks to the hardware directly
[11:30] <Jusii> I want to know is Pi outputting audio to HDMI or not in its current state
[11:31] <Jusii> or do I have to turn hdmi off / on to have audio detected from the display
[11:32] <Jusii> Ryccardo: I think omxplayer doesn't need any sound drivers
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[11:32] <Jusii> and shiftplusone already said that...
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[11:33] <shiftplusone> I'm starting to get the impression you'll need to read an omx parameter
[11:35] <Jusii> I'll check alsa too, if I can get the info from there and use alsa only for this.
[11:36] * shiftplusone is digging through omxplayer source
[11:39] <Jusii> well I think I should do that also, there has to be the answer
[11:39] <Jusii> maybe...
[11:40] <shiftplusone> Jusii, https://github.com/popcornmix/omxplayer/blob/master/omxplayer.cpp#L1106
[11:42] <Jusii> hah, thanks!
[11:42] <shiftplusone> np
[11:42] <sonium> is there a way to find out what kernel-drivers (compiled into the kernel, not modularized) are in use?
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[11:43] <shiftplusone> how would you distinguish between a driver that's in use and one that's simply loaded?
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[11:44] <shiftplusone> ah sorry, there's usually 'used by...'... hmm
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[11:44] <shiftplusone> no idea
[11:44] <sonium> just like ask the kernel: if this was a module, would you load it?
[11:46] <chris_99> zcat /proc/config.gz
[11:46] <shiftplusone> not sure what you means... that all depends on the bus type and /etc/modules.
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[12:05] <ivh> Hi. I have a webcam that offers an mjpeg-stream at a http-URL in the same net as my Pi2. I wonder if it is possible to use the GPU to encode that into h264 in the same way as is possible for the PiCamera. Ideally I would like to use it with the picamera Python module, but just saving the encoded stream would be fine, too. Can you point me in the right direction?
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[12:09] <waveform> ivh, very unlikely that can happen; the GPU expects to chat to the camera over the CSI-2 link, not a TCP/IP link
[12:10] <shiftplusone> waveform, hm? if he can grab the frames, he can pass them to an encoder component, no?
[12:11] <waveform> the mmal api does provide a means to push unencoded frames to the h.264 encoder, but picamera doesn't expose that part of the mmal api at the moment (it's on the list, mostly for stop-motion projects)
[12:12] <shiftplusone> yeah, that's how I understood the question. I'd go with 'you can't use picamera, but you can encode it... good luck figuring out mmal though, it's not that fun'
[12:12] <waveform> still, that'd be a pretty low level way of using picamera - you'd have to handle constructing your own camera object and hooking it to the encoder manually
[12:12] <ivh> waveform: ok, thx. so no encoder (gstreamer or whatever) can use the gpu for encoding arbitrary input?
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[12:14] <waveform> ivh, they can (via mmal/openmax) but the other limitation to recognize is that getting stuff from the CPU to the GPU is *slow* and trying to push 30 fps of video data through the Pi's CPU is likely to be too much for it (not sure about the Pi2 though)
[12:14] <chris_99> interesting so the Pi camera can encode to h.264 via the GPU?
[12:15] <waveform> chris_99, my (limited) understanding of the system is that the camera is hooked to the GPU via the CSI-2 path which provides raw bayer data straight to the GPU
[12:15] <ivh> Oh, I think I misread. So using picamera would be difficult because one would need to wrap the stream in a camera object.
[12:15] <waveform> chris_99, the GPU then handles all the post-processing (de-mosaic, denoise, agc, awb, lens shading, blah blah blah)
[12:15] <waveform> ivh, that's correct
[12:16] <waveform> chris_99, via the mmal/openmax APIs one can set up various "components" on the GPU to handle further processing like video/image encoding
[12:17] <waveform> chris_99, then finally you hook up some callbacks to have the GPU ping you the output and set it running
[12:17] <ivh> I've searched a bit already and if I read this page correctly, they havve raspivid to hardware-encode an external camera: http://www.sonsoftone.com/?page_id=287
[12:17] <chris_99> what program do you use to actually encode to h.264 though, via the hardware
[12:18] <ivh> s/havve/have\ hacked/
[12:18] <waveform> chris_99, there isn't an application which currently wraps that part of the API
[12:18] <chris_99> ah
[12:18] <waveform> chris_99, (at least not to my knowledge) - it's something I'm intending to add to picamera in the future but don't hold your breath (many family commitments coming shortly so I'm going to be offline for a few months!)
[12:19] <ivh> waveform: thanks for the info - and for picamera. :)
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[12:21] <chris_99> oh this is how i'm doing it atm - raspivid -o - -t 0 -hf -w 1920 -h 1080 -fps 25 | cvlc -vvv stream:///dev/stdin --sout '#rtp{sdp=rtsp://:8554}' :demux=h264 so that'll just be software encoding i guess
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[12:21] <waveform> ivh, no prob - incidentally that page you linked to is using the Pi's camera module - not an external camera
[12:22] <ivh> waveform: yes, I just saw that when reading again. my bad.
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[12:24] <waveform> no worries :)
[12:24] <ivh> chris_99: no, this should be the gpu making the h264. the raspi-CPU is too slow to do it in software, as far as I've seen.
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[12:24] <chris_99> ivh, oh you think that is using the GPU then?
[12:25] <waveform> chris_99, indeed - raspivid is doing hardware encoding in that case (raspistill and raspivid are the demo applications for the mmal api). I thought you were talking about encoding video from some external source (like a file / http stream)
[12:25] <ivh> chris_99: I'm still new to all this, but yes, I think so.
[12:25] <chris_99> ah ok sorry, cool :)
[12:26] <ivh> waveform: I was talking about external source, yes.
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[12:28] <waveform> and ivh is also correct: the Pi's CPU is nowhere near fast enough for real-time h264 video encoding (I doubt the Pi2's is either) - but the GPU's got enough grunt for it (and then some)
[12:29] <chris_99> gotcha
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[12:50] <citroniks> hi
[12:52] <citroniks> im doing project on pi "pen drive to pen drive data transfer " pleas tell me any code
[12:52] <citroniks> in advance thanks
[12:54] <chris_99> ?
[12:56] <GIANT_CRAB> citroniks lol
[12:57] <GIANT_CRAB> this is hilarious
[12:57] <ShorTie> like 'cp -R /dev/sda/* /dev/sdb' basically
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[12:58] <chris_99> that wouldn't work though
[12:59] <ShorTie> ya, probily have to use thier mount points
[12:59] <chris_99> mmm
[13:00] <chris_99> maybe cp /dev/sda /dev/sdb might work if they're the same size disk, never tried cp for that kind of stuff though
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[13:02] <ShorTie> cp -R $(fgrep "/dev/sda1" /etc/mtab | cut -f 2 -d ' ')/* $(fgrep "/dev/sda2" /etc/mtab | cut -f 2 -d ' ')
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[13:02] <chris_99> heh
[13:03] <chris_99> cp /dev/zero /dev/random seems to work so cp /dev/sda /dev/sdb could actually work
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[13:12] <citroniks> thanks ...
[13:13] <citroniks> but i already had one code it is of ARM9 made some changes its not working
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[13:42] <JSharpe> Hello, could some one tell me what platform.system() outputs from there rpi please
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[14:06] <chris_99> http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-31834927 seems a nice idea 'BBC gives children mini-computers in Make it Digital scheme'
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[14:08] <Ryccardo> chris_99: inb4 people complaining Microsoft is helping it
[14:08] <chris_99> haha
[14:08] <SpeedEvil> Has a seventies theme.
[14:08] <SpeedEvil> Array of LEDs, and all
[14:09] <chris_99> they're going to give out 1 million of them apparently
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[14:09] <shiftplusone> why all the fuss about an avr with some leds? =S
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[14:09] <SpeedEvil> I can see the atmel brand
[14:09] <SpeedEvil> what one is it?
[14:10] <SpeedEvil> And good luck encouraging kids to code on an 8 bit micro
[14:10] <shiftplusone> probably an attiny
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[14:10] <chris_99> on HN someone says 'The pictures I've seen show the CPU as an ATMEL Mega32U4: http://www.atmel.com/devices/atmega32u4.aspx'
[14:10] <SpeedEvil> Done right I suspect you could hit under $2 at 1M
[14:10] <shiftplusone> ah
[14:11] <shiftplusone> If it's cheap and has good educational resources, maybe I see the point.
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[14:12] <Hix> any decent alternatives to the HDMIPi?
[14:13] <shiftplusone> the official display when it comes out Soon+1 (TM)
[14:13] <Hix> oh, any info? link?
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[14:14] <shiftplusone> http://raspi.tv/2014/raspberry-pi-official-7-inch-dsi-prototype-preview
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[14:14] <shiftplusone> it has been coming out 'soon' for ages thought, so don't hold your breath or anything... plus it's fairly small, so not good to actually work on
[14:15] <shiftplusone> same goes for HDMIPi though
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[14:15] <Hix> hmm <$70 nice
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[14:16] <Hix> I really wanted a mini monitor mostly for IR wildlife filming. Aim is to use some lairy Hi-powered IR LEDs as a lightsource and try to film owls etc through a spotting scope / one half of binocular
[14:16] <zlimvos> http://raspi.tv/2014/raspberry-pi-official-7-inch-dsi-prototype-preview
[14:16] <zlimvos> oops sorry. misclick
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[14:17] <Hix> ahh seems its 800 x 480 so not that great really
[14:18] <Hix> plus exclusively DSI, HDMI would be more useful as could use with a DSLR too.
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[14:19] <willmore> Until you can beat a $50 refurbed 1280x1024 monitor, keep walking.
[14:21] <SirLagz> I got a 1280x1024 for free...does that count ? :P
[14:22] <Hix> 240V isn't an option in a field :)
[14:22] <aawe> I'd like an E-ink display for the pi
[14:22] <aawe> 10 inches
[14:22] <muriani> SirLagz: that indeed beats $50 :)
[14:22] <SirLagz> workmate was doing a cleanout. scored 4 1280x1024 monitors
[14:22] <muriani> I score 3 mac minis like that
[14:22] <aawe> who wants a screen when you can have a sheet of e-ink
[14:22] <SirLagz> only problem is they needed a power supply lol
[14:23] <chris_99> monitors have built in AC psus don't they?
[14:23] <SirLagz> not all
[14:24] <SirLagz> some still have power bricks
[14:24] <buZz> some do
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[14:24] <chris_99> oh interesting, not seen a power brick one
[14:24] <SirLagz> I'm using 3 of em right now haha
[14:24] <buZz> willmore: i scored a 23" 1080p for 0 euro
[14:24] <chris_99> wow
[14:24] <muriani> chris_99: samsung uses bricks
[14:24] <chris_99> ah
[14:24] <buZz> willmore: had slighty broken backlight, was a 5 euro fix
[14:24] <muriani> most "slim" LCD monitors will
[14:25] <SirLagz> muriani: my LCDs were just old...that's why they had power bricks haha
[14:25] <SirLagz> s/were/are/
[14:25] <muriani> ah
[14:25] <muriani> yeah some older ones did too
[14:26] <SirLagz> and not had...have. lol
[14:26] <muriani> I have an old Sony that does
[14:26] <SirLagz> these are old 17" square monitors
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[14:35] <ivh> waveform: when using PiCameraCircularIO, does the Pi's memory split play a role?
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[14:35] <JSharpe> may some one please tell me what platform.system() outputs from there rpi please, i'm writing some cross platform code and not able to access my rpi in the near future
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[14:37] <ivh> JSharpe: mine says "Linux"
[14:37] <ivh> JSharpe: assuming you talk about Python... :)
[14:37] <JSharpe> yeah :) thanks
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[14:44] <willmore> SirLagz, indeed!
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[14:45] <willmore> Hix, they made these nice devices with displays and CPUs in them. They even include batteries....
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[14:45] <Hix> what like a laptop?
[14:46] <willmore> Tablet.
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[14:46] <Hix> with HDMI input?
[14:46] <willmore> They connect the CPU to the display for you.
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[14:46] <Hix> from a Pi or DSLR....
[14:47] <willmore> Well, the nice thing about tablets is that they have the CPU built in, no need to hook it to a Pi for that. If it's I/O you need, there are boards that hook to tablets and do that portion of the job.
[14:47] <buZz> ?
[14:47] <buZz> i have a battery powered HDMI screen
[14:47] <willmore> If you want an external display for a DSLR, then it really depends on what you're trying to do with it.
[14:47] <buZz> with usb keyboard, usb mouse
[14:48] <buZz> costed ~50 usd
[14:48] <willmore> Interesting.
[14:48] <buZz> called the 'motorola lapdock'
[14:48] <willmore> :)
[14:48] <buZz> no joke
[14:48] <Hix> willmore "<Hix>I really wanted a mini monitor mostly for IR wildlife filming. Aim is to use some lairy Hi-powered IR LEDs as a lightsource and try to film owls etc through a spotting scope / one half of binocular"
[14:48] <willmore> Was that the companion for the Atrix?
[14:48] <buZz> willmore: mine was for the droid bionic
[14:49] <Hix> so either usng the pi noir or a DSLR
[14:49] <buZz> monitors dont film
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[14:49] <willmore> Hix, you have a displayless DSLR?
[14:49] * SpeedEvil ponders.
[14:49] <waveform> ivh, only in so far as determining how much memory you've got for the ring buffer
[14:49] <SpeedEvil> 10W 808nm laser diode in one side of the binoculars, camera in the other
[14:50] <willmore> All you'd need would be a shark.
[14:50] <Hix> buZz the pi or DSLR will film the monitor is for focus. willmore the display on DSLR is not very useful for focus
[14:51] <Ryccardo> on mine you can click the button that zooms an already recorded image
[14:51] <Hix> hence the requirement for a bigger monitor. SpeedEvil i was going for more of a torch beam rather than laser
[14:51] * willmore finds that Magic Lantern on his T3i works great for that.
[14:51] <SpeedEvil> LASER does not imply point-beam
[14:51] <SpeedEvil> It's simply a very bright IR source that is efficient and cheap
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[14:51] <Encrypt> +1
[14:51] <SpeedEvil> you would move it slightly defocussed so it makes a beam that fills the lens
[14:51] <willmore> But, *evil* and laser does imply shark.
[14:52] <SpeedEvil> err
[14:52] <Hix> fair nuff found some cheap Osram LEDs with 45� beam
[14:52] <SpeedEvil> fills the camera view as looked at through the lens
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[14:52] <Encrypt> Lasers are now used in cars
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[14:52] <buZz> Hix: so wait, you just need a portable HDMI screen?
[14:52] <Encrypt> As "general" lighting
[14:52] <willmore> 10W 808nm laser just sounds like 'do not look into with remaining good eye'.
[14:53] <Hix> Ryccardo this is for live view to frame and focus. Have you ever tried to film a wild animal in the dark? They don't lay by any rules :)
[14:53] * willmore has strapped his camera to his night vision scoped and gone 'hunting'.
[14:53] <Hix> buZz yes, that is what I was looking for, like the hdmi-pi
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[14:53] <Ryccardo> Hix: I wouldn't use contrast detection mode on wild animals!
[14:53] <SpeedEvil> willmore: it's not quite that bad
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[14:54] <Hix> Ryccardo for focus? Manual all the way inc exposure
[14:54] <SpeedEvil> willmore: the idea is that the beam starts out 50mm in diameter, and diverges at 6 degrees
[14:54] <buZz> Hix: there is a lot of nice stuff on https://www.adafruit.com/category/63
[14:54] <willmore> SpeedEvil, might not even need the other half of the bino's.
[14:54] <SpeedEvil> willmore: It is _considerably_ more dangerous if it doesn't start out at 50mm in diameter
[14:55] <Hix> cheers buZz that's more like it
[14:55] <willmore> SpeedEvil, oh, you were including the bino, got it.
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[14:55] <buZz> much love
[14:55] <willmore> I though you were saying you had a laser with an existing 50mm exit aperature.
[14:55] <SpeedEvil> I mean a bare diode like http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/808nm-10W-C-Mount-Laser-Diode-with-Square-Optical-Pattern-/251335122336?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a84bd9da0
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[14:56] <Hix> SpeedEvil think that is a little bit of overkill for what I was after :)
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[14:57] <willmore> SpeedEvil, I can't see how that could go wrong.
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[14:57] <willmore> Are you trying to watch the animals or cook them?
[14:58] <SpeedEvil> willmore: 'or' ?
[14:58] <SpeedEvil> Why or?
[14:58] <willmore> Sorry, keep forgetting the 'evil' part.
[14:58] <Hix> not sure I'd want to eat owl or badger round my way :D
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[14:58] <ozzzy> wilderness stew
[14:59] <buZz> badger badger badger?
[14:59] <buZz> mushroom
[14:59] <buZz> mushroom
[14:59] <Hix> wilderness spew
[14:59] <willmore> Snake!
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[14:59] <Hix> buZz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL6CDFn2i3I
[15:00] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2p4RvvE00Y&list=PL173311BFCF677C1C
[15:01] <willmore> Original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIyixC9NsLI
[15:01] <buZz> Hix: exactly, mr weebl for worldpresident
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[15:02] <willmore> He already owns the internet.
[15:02] <willmore> Or did 8 years ago.
[15:02] <buZz> our voluntary benevolent dictator
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[15:02] <willmore> No, we must force him to do it!
[15:02] <buZz> well i think he mostly owns Children's BBC webpages now :D
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[15:03] <willmore> How the mighty have fallen.
[15:03] <buZz> willmore / Hix : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL7KcHUt1W8
[15:05] <willmore> Oh, my...
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[15:22] <heller\> hello
[15:22] <heller\> i would need to read a phototransistor with raspberry pi
[15:22] <heller\> i only need to read rising edges
[15:23] <heller\> im trying to use this tutorial https://sites.google.com/site/therobotronics/arduino/connect-a-phototransistor-to-arduino
[15:23] <heller\> but im not reading anything
[15:24] <heller\> http://pastebin.com/U5Wfnzq0 should this be okay?
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[15:30] <SpeedEvil> Step 0.
[15:30] <SpeedEvil> measure with a voltmeter.
[15:30] <SpeedEvil> Does it work
[15:30] <heller\> i have a scope telling me its working
[15:32] <heller\> jumping from 1.046V to 3.134V
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[15:33] <Encrypt> 3.
[15:33] <Encrypt> 3.134 might not be a real "HIGH" for the Pi? :/
[15:33] <Encrypt> However, I heard HIGH starts at 3V
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[15:34] <heller\> Its high.
[15:35] <heller\> Internet tells me +2V is HIGH
[15:36] <heller\> the code is right, right?
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[15:40] <designbybeck> Has anyone used RaspberryPi for RiseVision slideshow? Having problems with their ISO and Wifi
[15:40] <pksato> heller\: GPIO.setmode(GPIO.BCM), prefer GPIO.BOARD, number correspond to header pin.
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[15:40] <pksato> 23 are translated to correct header pin?
[15:41] <pksato> and, RPi dont have a ADC (analog input).
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[15:42] <pksato> only read if have intense ligth or not.
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[15:49] <heller\> yeah i know it doesnt have ADC. but i care for rising edges only
[15:49] <heller\> actually the pin was wrong
[15:49] <heller\> but still nothing
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[15:50] <heller\> according to this http://www.megaleecher.net/sites/default/files/images/raspberry-pi-rev2-gpio-pinout.jpg its GPIO11
[15:50] <heller\> changed it in the program
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[15:56] <kisak> does omxplayer do point releases, or is it versionless?
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[15:58] <kisak> looks like it's versionless?
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[15:59] <waveform> kisak, the containing package (omxplayer) has a version (0.3.6~git20150210~337004e) but the inclusion of a git tag in there suggests to me that the package is following upstream closely without worrying about "official" point releases much
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[16:06] <heller\> damn this
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[16:07] <Tenkawa> hi all
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[16:08] <Tenkawa> whats new?
[16:08] <kisak> you are ... new to the channel, welcome here
[16:08] <TheLostAdmin> The raspberry Pi 3 is OUT already and like OMG! (ha ha)
[16:09] <Tenkawa> kisak: umm... no
[16:09] <Tenkawa> TheLostAdmin: that would just be scary
[16:09] <TheLostAdmin> ya, boring morning
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[16:09] <Ryccardo> Apple bought the Pi Foundation
[16:09] <Tenkawa> heheheh
[16:10] <Tenkawa> Ryccardo: now that would be funny..
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[16:10] <TheLostAdmin> Ryccardo, as much as I enjoy my apple stuff, please no.
[16:10] <Tenkawa> although I see a lot of potential for apple computers that size
[16:10] <Ryccardo> ...and collaborates with Microsoft to port Secure Boot
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[16:11] <TheLostAdmin> ha ha ya right.
[16:11] * BobFrankly takes the cup away from Ryccardo
[16:11] <BobFrankly> this isn't water! it's vodka man!
[16:11] <Tenkawa> I had a hard enough time turning secure boot off on this tablet so I could install non-ms os'es
[16:11] <Tenkawa> but it was darn worth it
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[16:13] <TheLostAdmin> Tenkawa: one of those MS surface things?
[16:13] <Tenkawa> TheLostAdmin: clone.. microcenter Winbook
[16:13] <Tenkawa> Its very similar hardware
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[16:14] <Tenkawa> comes with win 8.1 by default.. now its running native debian :)
[16:14] <Tenkawa> had to do the baytrail 64/32 bit efi shuffle
[16:14] <McBride36> i still need to get my tablet repaird
[16:14] <Tenkawa> however it was so worth it
[16:15] <Tenkawa> especially now that I can run vmware
[16:15] <Tenkawa> hehehehehehehe
[16:15] <Tenkawa> or kvm.. etc
[16:15] <Tenkawa> only need the one box for now
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[16:17] <Tenkawa> I was looking yesterday and wow they've made some high end surface tablets
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[16:17] <Tenkawa> if those could have keyboards attached like this and run linux I'd think about getting one
[16:18] * ozzzy can live without linux
[16:18] <ivh> waveform: ok, thanks. Do I calculate the duration by just multiplying resolution*3*8bit*fps ?
[16:18] <Tenkawa> ozzzy: what do you use?
[16:18] <ozzzy> I used slack/rh/mandrake/mandriva/'buntu from 1996 to last year... then switched to Win8 when I bought this machine
[16:19] <Tenkawa> ahh
[16:19] <ozzzy> oh... had os/2 and unixware in the mix for a while
[16:19] <Tenkawa> I like to work on them all
[16:19] <Tenkawa> nice
[16:19] <Tenkawa> i miss sco some days
[16:19] <ozzzy> to me an operating system is just plumbing... it's the apps that matter
[16:20] <Tenkawa> I'm an os/hardware/infra guy
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[16:20] <Tenkawa> although I try to mess with it all
[16:21] <Tenkawa> low level kernel devel was my thing for years
[16:21] <ozzzy> I don't care what the OS is as long as my hardware and software needs are met
[16:21] <TheLostAdmin> You're in the Pi forum, ozzzy. Are you running Win 8 on your Pi?
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[16:21] <ozzzy> nope... but I'm waiting for Win10
[16:21] <Tenkawa> TheLostAdmin: ozzzy: same here
[16:21] <Tenkawa> got 2 sit aside waiting to run 10
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[16:23] <ozzzy> until then the Pi is just sitting there increasing the entropy of the universe
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[16:23] <lee> http://www.pjsmprints.com/ :(
[16:23] <lee> er, ww
[16:24] <lee> but still, :(
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[16:24] <leev> wow, you just confused me. i'm 'lee' on other networks and was thinking I didn't just type that
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[16:24] <lee> leev, glad to be of service
[16:24] <leev> :)
[16:24] <amigojapan> I wonder if I can get 3dpl to run on a RPI2 with ubuntu running on it… I dont know if there are any intel specific things in Unity packages…. as far as I udnerstand it is mostly based on Mono…. so it may just run…. it is not that expensive , so i may buy one and try it out.
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[16:25] <amigojapan> has anyone run a unity program on a raspberry pi 2 yet?
[16:26] * ozzzy doesn't know that unity is
[16:26] <Payo_> has anyone tried pcsx rearmed on raspbian ? I compiled it but when I run "./pcsx" the screen just goes black and nothing after that
[16:26] <muriani> there's unity for arm/linux?
[16:26] <Payo_> not sure if there's a log I could check
[16:27] <muriani> Payo_: only via retroarch/libretro
[16:27] <muriani> you may have to supply a disc image file as an argument to pcsk
[16:27] <muriani> *pcsx
[16:27] <muriani> there's no UI iirc
[16:27] <Payo_> I tried that too, same thing
[16:27] <Ryccardo> http://www.parsicitalia.it/parsic%20italia%20prodotti.html hmph, no Pi2
[16:27] <Payo_> i'll try with another image
[16:27] <muriani> I installed retropie on raspbian
[16:28] <muriani> works great
[16:28] <amigojapan> muriani: unity3d, not unity the WM (should have been clear about that)
[16:29] <Tenkawa> and the kernel compiles......
[16:29] <muriani> amigojapan: right, I assumed so
[16:29] <Payo_> do I need X for retropie muriani?
[16:29] <muriani> Payo_: nope
[16:29] <Payo_> ok
[16:29] <amigojapan> unity3d supports Ubuntu, so since ubuntu now runs on the RPI2, assumming no intel specific things, I think it should owrk
[16:29] <muriani> in fact it doesnt' like X
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[16:30] <muriani> amigojapan: unless it's recompiled for arm, then it's intel-specific
[16:30] <muriani> ubuntu's just linux
[16:30] <amigojapan> muriani: not sure about that, cause I think the Unity things are based on Mono
[16:30] <muriani> oh lord I would hope not.
[16:30] <amigojapan> how not what?
[16:31] <amigojapan> hope not what?
[16:31] <muriani> Mono.
[16:31] <amigojapan> it is based on Mono
[16:31] <amigojapan> I know that
[16:31] <muriani> the entire engine is based on .net?
[16:31] <amigojapan> I just dont know if there is any intel specific stuff as well as the mono parts
[16:31] <amigojapan> yes muriani , that is how they got it to play on Linux to begin with
[16:32] * muriani shudders
[16:32] <amigojapan> which means it may just work… but I dont have a RPI2 yet… so I cant tell
[16:33] <kisak> I just asked a Unity3d dev on your behalf, as of today, unity3d does not work on armv7 linux
[16:33] <amigojapan> ah ok kisak , bummer
[16:33] <Tenkawa> bbl...
[16:33] <Tenkawa> kernel tuning calls
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[16:34] <kisak> also, Unity3d is working on armv7 with other platforms
[16:34] <amigojapan> yeah, android works… is there andriod for RPI2 yet?
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[16:36] <Payo_> no amigojapan
[16:36] <Ryccardo> amigojapan: nope (and neither for the 1)
[16:36] <amigojapan> ok…
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[16:37] <heller\> if i know how long led is on and off, how can i calculate how many times per second it blinks?
[16:37] <amigojapan> hmmm, I guess the onlyw way to get 3dpl to work on RPI2 would be on windows 10… but unfortunately that is not free
[16:37] <amigojapan> heller\: how long is the led on and off?
[16:38] <heller\> led_on()
[16:38] <heller\> time.sleep(0.0005)
[16:38] <heller\> led_off()
[16:38] <heller\> time.sleep(0.005)
[16:38] <amigojapan> oh wait, that would also probably be intel specific… nevermind… bummer
[16:38] <heller\> emm..
[16:38] <heller\> sorry for paste.
[16:39] <amigojapan> heller\: I am not experienced with this, but try setting sleep to 1.0, and see if it sleeps one second…
[16:39] <Tachyon`> sleep is in ms
[16:39] <amigojapan> heller\: soudns to me like it is waiting 5Milliseconds
[16:40] <Tachyon`> oh wait, that's not arduino code, ignore me
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[16:40] <heller\> no its not :p
[16:40] <amigojapan> ok no idea then heller\ , sorry
[16:41] <heller\> amigojapan: that was for Tachyon`
[16:41] <amigojapan> ah ok
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[16:41] <Tachyon`> that's the trouble with coding for various platforms in the same language
[16:41] <Tachyon`> they begin to merge after a while
[16:42] <heller\> i think its 0.5milloseconds
[16:42] <heller\> 0.5ms on and 5ms off
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[16:42] <amigojapan> heller\: if it is that, then you can easily calculate how many times it goes on and off…. which part is not clear?
[16:43] <amigojapan> heller\: there are a thousand milliseconds to a second….
[16:44] <heller\> well the calculating part :p
[16:44] <ring0> heller\, divide 1 second by (time ledon+ledoff) equals cyles per second
[16:44] <amigojapan> so we just need to do a little math here
[16:44] <methuzla> blink rate = 1 / (time off + time on)
[16:44] <ring0> methuzla, o/
[16:45] <heller\> is that 181 times per second?
[16:45] <nefarious> My Pi's uptime is into triple digits now!
[16:45] <methuzla> time in seconds, rate in hz
[16:45] <amigojapan> nefarious: I have kept my pi running 24/7 for over a year now
[16:46] <Payo_> muriani: I don't see pcsx rearmed in the list in retropie_setup.sh ?
[16:46] <ring0> heller\, yes
[16:47] <muriani> it's later on, libretro playstation 1 I think
[16:47] <heller\> thank you guys
[16:47] <muriani> it's the pcsx rearmed core
[16:48] <Payo_> ok
[16:48] <muriani> runs like a champ, was playing Descent and Jumping Flash with it last night
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[16:49] <Payo_> I just instlal the emulators I want + emulationstation right ?
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[16:49] <nefarious> amigojapan, nice. Just on a normal psu or with a backup?
[16:50] <BobFrankly> if it's not in the list, you'll have to add it to the ES config file
[16:50] <amigojapan> nefarious: no just directly on the wall socket… electricity has never gone out in Japan in a year
[16:51] <muriani> Payo_: I'd install the emus I want, and leave all the other options in the script checked
[16:51] <muriani> only uncheck emus you don't want
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[16:52] <BobFrankly> muriani just curious, did you do a full build process, or DL the binaries?
[16:52] <muriani> since the psx core runs through libretro you'll need to have retroarch installed
[16:52] <muriani> I did a full build
[16:52] <Payo_> ok
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[16:52] <Payo_> I don't want to install all the emus :/ it'll be too long
[16:52] <muriani> however, I went into the build options in one of the scripts and added -j3 to the make flags
[16:52] <BobFrankly> I unchecked about half the stuff, probably took about 5-6 hours to build on my rpi2
[16:52] <muriani> because I've got four cores and would like ot use them thanks
[16:53] <BobFrankly> ^^ found out about that mid-build when I saw it was only using 1 core...
[16:53] <muriani> yeah I started a build and was all awww heeeelll naw
[16:54] <Payo_> when I start the setup (binaries) it doesn't ask me what ot install and just starts installing stuff
[16:54] <Payo_> is that normal ?
[16:55] <muriani> dunno
[16:55] <muriani> didn't do binary setu
[16:55] <muriani> Ibuilt from source
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[16:56] <Payo_> where can I add -j3 ?
[16:57] <BobFrankly> -j3 wont affect binary install
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[16:57] <Payo_> i'm going to try the source install
[16:57] <Payo_> binary install doesn't ask what to install :(
[16:58] <BobFrankly> space limitations?
[16:58] <Payo_> no, I just have no use for them
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[16:58] <BobFrankly> binary install will be much faster then source install
[16:58] <muriani> /home/pi/RetroPie-Setup/scriptmodules/system.sh
[16:58] <BobFrankly> just making sure you know that :D
[16:58] <Payo_> I know, but I don't want all those emus
[16:58] <Payo_> __default_makeflags="-j4"
[16:58] <Payo_> like that ? in the rpi2 function
[16:58] <muriani> yup
[16:58] <Payo_> k thanks
[16:59] <muriani> I used j3 because I like to leave a core free
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[16:59] <muriani> just a personal preference
[16:59] <muriani> some emus use a different build system that doesn't respect that so it'll only use one
[16:59] <BobFrankly> -j3.5
[16:59] * BobFrankly snickers
[16:59] <muriani> but most will use that flag
[16:59] <muriani> lol
[17:01] <Payo_> meh I'm not doing anything else on the pi so i'll do 4 :p
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[17:05] <fractaline> hi peeps
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[17:11] <fractaline> iam just playing with my first set up of raspbian. i hav lost my desktop settings, where one would set the wallpaper. i pressed a button to show openbox menu when desktop is clicked but now i cant get back to the original right click menu on desktop... to set the wallpaper
[17:12] <fractaline> any ideas would be appreciated
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[17:15] <stevenjames> fractaline i can't even get my raspbian persistent idk
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[17:16] <muriani> how are you install raspbian?
[17:16] <muriani> I installed via NOOBS netinstall and it's pretty much perfect
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[17:16] <stevenjames> i downloaded the raspbian image onto microsd using dd in terminal
[17:16] <stevenjames> *downloaded then wrote
[17:17] <Hix> fractaline this any help? https://lkubaski.wordpress.com/2012/06/29/adding-lxde-start-menu-and-desktop-shortcuts/
[17:18] <Ryccardo> fractaline: you can change that from start>settings>openbox IIRC
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[17:20] <Ryccardo> http://i47.tinypic.com/311x2ps.png
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[17:22] <buZz> stevenjames: ran raspi-config on first boot to fix filesystem for the card?
[17:23] <ShorTie> stevenjames what is your dd line ??
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[17:27] <stevenjames> buZz no i didn't should i redo everything? i created a new sudo user and passwd also but when i log in the login screen just refreshes
[17:28] <stevenjames> ShorTie the dd line from the instructions on raspberrypi.org
[17:28] <ShorTie> sorry, missed you where past that part
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[17:29] <stevenjames> that doesn't even make sense
[17:29] <ShorTie> i'd probily stick to user 'pi' just change the password
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[17:29] <ShorTie> thought your dd write didn't go well
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[17:30] <stevenjames> my dd write went fine. i'm not taking advice from someone who can't spell and doesn't know the difference between where and we're
[17:30] <kisak> ShorTie: 'hunter2' not good enough?
[17:30] <stevenjames> thanks anyway though
[17:30] <ShorTie> �k�� ��K��
[17:30] <ShorTie> have fun
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[17:31] * ShorTie thinkz, you did read the Topic right ??
[17:32] <buZz> stevenjames: so the user works on second boot?
[17:32] <buZz> stevenjames: fyi you just blocked like 100% of USA from helping you :D
[17:32] <buZz> maybe 150%
[17:33] <kisak> buZz: gee, thanks
[17:33] * ShorTie thinkz, 'sed -i "s/#autologin-user=/autologin-user=pi/" /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf' has sumfin to do with it
[17:34] <buZz> dont feel bad :) generalisation never applies to single ppl ;)
[17:35] <McBride36> unplugging the hdmi while the pi is building python3.4.3 won't bork anything will it?
[17:35] <buZz> McBride36: it shouldnt, no
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[17:35] <kisak> McBride36: as long as it doesn't loose power
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[17:35] <amigojapan> spelling does not make anyone smarter, I am dyslexic, and I think I am not stupid
[17:35] <kisak> s/loose/lose/
[17:36] <ShorTie> i'm stupid and i know it, lol.
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[17:36] <buZz> ShorTie: isnt that a LMFAO song :D
[17:36] <amigojapan> ShorTie: but not if it just comes to spelling, that is an elitist thing … I dont believe it
[17:37] <ShorTie> i flunk spelling
[17:37] <buZz> you know what they called the guy correcting hitler's speeches?
[17:37] <McBride36> i remember i lost the spelling bee on the word quiche
[17:37] <amigojapan> ShorTie: that is fine, for every person that makes fun of my spelling, I can probably speak more languages than they can
[17:37] <buZz> the grammernazi
[17:37] <McBride36> how dare they give a silent q word to a deaf kid
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[17:39] <amigojapan> ShorTie: it is not like stevenjames did no understand what you ment… context is more improtant than spelling
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[17:40] <buZz> such wisdom
[17:41] <fractaline> what is the hot keys to show hidden files on raspbian?
[17:41] <stevenjames> your write i apologize
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[17:42] <amigojapan> stevenjames: and that was udnerstood by context :)
[17:42] <amigojapan> fractaline: I dont know hte hotkeys, but you can see hidden files int eh terminal by doing ls -alF
[17:43] <stevenjames> i know, i think fb memes with no grammar/spelling have led me to a permanent state of frustration. ShorTie i apologize
[17:43] <amigojapan> fractaline: hidden files will be the ones that start with a .
[17:43] <amigojapan> :)
[17:44] <fractaline> yes the dot files ...
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[17:44] <waveform> fractaline, I think it's Ctrl+H (same as Ubuntu)
[17:44] <waveform> yup, Ctrl+H works in the raspbian file manager
[17:45] <waveform> (and as mentioned above, the "-a" option to "ls" shows all files, including dot-files)
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[17:45] <stevenjames> buZz the USA helps no one but for a motive or image
[17:45] <buZz> dont we all do stuff for motives? :D
[17:46] <stevenjames> not help no
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[17:47] <amigojapan> stevenjames: we can help other people to get satisfaction for it…
[17:47] <stevenjames> amigojapan agreed
[17:48] <buZz> that could be the motive :)
[17:48] <stevenjames> yes it could
[17:49] <fractaline> satisfaction is a good motive
[17:49] <fractaline> waveform: thanks t hought so
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[17:50] <stevenjames> the US only helps, strictly, when they can gain. whether image or resource or money whatever. that's what i was saying. and satisfaction makes you feel good but it's not under false pretenses and doesn't take from who you're helping
[17:50] <stevenjames> anyway, i was an asshole for no reason and i apologize
[17:51] <stevenjames> there is probably no motive behind my apology
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[17:51] <amigojapan> stevenjames: ok, dont worry, no hard feeelings :)
[17:51] <designbybeck> We can't seem to get a Rpi to connect to our university's secure wifi network, even though we have the cert file and all settings are setup like another Linux box. Any suggestions
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[17:52] <Aboba> get a new wifi network
[17:52] <amigojapan> designbybeck: you are using a wifi dongle I guess,
[17:52] <designbybeck> yes amigojapan
[17:52] <amigojapan> ok
[17:52] <designbybeck> amigojapan, it sees the network
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[17:53] <amigojapan> designbybeck: I am nto sure about the current software, but there used to be a wifi config GUI tool on the desktop
[17:54] <designbybeck> amigojapan, we see that, and have set it up through that gui
[17:54] <amigojapan> ok
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[18:09] <didzan> Hello all, I have a raspbian wheezy installed in my raspberry pi. Login screen shows the boxes for user and pass, and red X indicating the profile image, how can I change it?? Any help??
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[18:28] <didzan> Hello all, I have a raspbian wheezy installed in my raspberry pi. Login screen shows the boxes for user and pass, and red X indicating the profile image, how can I change it?? Any help??
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[18:28] <didzan> Hello all, I have a raspbian wheezy installed in my raspberry pi. Login screen shows the boxes for user and pass, and red X indicating the profile image, how can I change it?? Any help??
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[18:30] <kisak> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/122160/set-lightdm-user-picture maybe?
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[18:31] <kisak> I forget which login manager raspbian uses uses
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[18:58] <Ryccardo> kisak: lightdm is preinstalled but disabled by default
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[19:58] <Payo_> anyone who uses retropie with the psone ? I can't figure out where to put (or how to name) the bios file I have
[19:59] <Payo_> I put it in ~/RetroPie/BIOS and added that to /opt/retropie/configs/psx/retroarch.cfg but it doesn't see it
[20:01] <muriani> the BIOS I used was scph7502.bin
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[20:01] <Payo_> where did you put it ?
[20:01] <muriani> per these instructions: https://github.com/petrockblog/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/Advanced-Configuration
[20:01] <Payo_> ok
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[20:01] <muriani> in ~/RetroPie/BIOS
[20:01] <muriani> I assume it's being used since games work
[20:02] <muriani> I never see the bios screen though
[20:03] <Payo_> when I start a game it says "no bios found, expect bugs"
[20:03] <Payo_> and yeah the 2 games I tried didn't run great
[20:03] <Payo_> /home/pi/RetroPie/configs/all/retroarch.cfg
[20:03] <Payo_> that file doesn't exist
[20:03] <Payo_> do I create it ?
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[20:05] <muriani> hm
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[20:05] <muriani> it should have been created already with defaults by the retropie_setup script
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[20:05] <MarconM> any run cacher server on rpi 2
[20:05] <MarconM> ?
[20:06] <muriani> run the retropie_setup.sh script again, and look in the SETUP section
[20:06] <muriani> there may be some retroarch ones you need to run for initial config
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[20:06] <muriani> my pi2 is down atm while I migrate to a new sdcard
[20:07] <Payo_> i grabbed a scph7502.bin file and now it works
[20:07] <Payo_> thanks :)
[20:07] <Payo_> I was using the retropie image so there isn't any setup to do
[20:07] <Payo_> the compilation failed for some reason i'm going to try again on a fresh image
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[20:08] <brennen> not sure if this has been mentioned here yet, but if anyone's looking to do adafruit pitft on a pi 2, we've got support for that up now: https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit-PiTFT-Helper
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[20:09] <ozzzy> whats a pitft
[20:09] <Payo_> a screen I would assume
[20:10] <brennen> little display - these critters: https://www.adafruit.com/products/1601
[20:10] <ozzzy> ahhh
[20:10] <ozzzy> tks
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[20:12] <MarconM> where can i buy a rpi 2
[20:12] <MarconM> ?
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[20:12] <Payo_> probably not on IRC
[20:12] <muriani> Payo_: aah. I just ran it off the raspbian image
[20:13] <Payo_> yeah I'm using the ua-netinst so not sure if something is missing etc
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[20:15] <atouk> mcmelectronics has them in stock. just got 2
[20:15] <muriani> I bought mine from MCM
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[20:16] <ozzzy> I got mine from element14
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[20:20] <kisak> I got an element14 boxed unit from newegg.com
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[20:21] <muriani> yeah, the one I got from mcm has an element14 box
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[20:23] <kisak> newegg is on my shortlist of preferred warehouses, due to a regional advantage + competitive pricing -- 3-5 day shipping has a chance of arriving next day, which is nice
[20:24] <ozzzy> shipping isn't high on my list... I'm used to waiting a month+ for orders
[20:24] <kisak> yeah, it's just a nice bonus for me
[20:25] <ozzzy> most of the stuff I order come from china... with free shipping
[20:25] <muriani> ozzzy: lol yeah
[20:25] <muriani> I'm still waiting on a shipment from china
[20:25] <kisak> china-special priced heatsinks came in yesterday for my pi
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[20:26] <ozzzy> I generally have 3-4 in transit somewhere LOL
[20:26] <muriani> I still haven't bothered with a heatsink for the pi yet
[20:26] <muriani> I did on my pandaboard, that thing got warm
[20:27] <kisak> I have a low-height acrylic case, and I still can't tell if the heatsink is hitting the top panel or not
[20:28] <muriani> I printed the slotted pi case off thingiverse
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[20:29] <muriani> although I modified it to hang off the lid of the atrix lapdock
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[20:31] <willmore> kisak, there is a werehouse in the city I live near. If my item comes from there, it's next day even with the cheap shipping.
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[20:34] <Encrypt> Hi! o/
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[20:35] <Encrypt> Offtopic question: Is there anybody from Plymouth here? (or the surroundings)
[20:35] <Sonny_Jim> Which country?
[20:36] <Encrypt> England
[20:36] <Sonny_Jim> I'm aware of the place
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[20:37] <Encrypt> I'm looking for a student room for next year now... if you have any tip :p
[20:38] <Encrypt> There are *lots* of websites offering student accomodation...
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[20:43] <Sonny_Jim> Personally? I wouldn't go to Plymouth, Bristol is a nice much city/uni
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[20:43] <Sonny_Jim> err, that should read "Much nicer city/uni"
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[20:44] <Encrypt> Sonny_Jim, Well, my school has a partnership with Plymouth
[20:44] <Encrypt> And I have been selected to go there next year
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[20:44] <Encrypt> I will probably do the "MSc Computer & Information Security"
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[20:46] <Froolap> I'm going to shoot myself. wanna help?
[20:47] * Sonny_Jim hands Froolap a gun
[20:47] <Froolap> what type of bullets will fit a 1/2 inch pipe?
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[20:47] <Sonny_Jim> 1/2" calibre bullets
[20:47] <Froolap> ty
[20:48] <ShorTie> 50 cal i believe
[20:50] <Froolap> I'm so stinkin close, but no cigar. Now I can't get video out to my tv.... unsupported mode.
[20:50] <Sonny_Jim> What are you trying to do?
[20:51] <Ryccardo> time for trial and error...
[20:52] <Froolap> HDMI to VGA to KVM to TV. Worked in the livingrom, but not in the den where I need it.
[20:53] <Tachyon`> try forcing various modes in config.txt that the adapter might like
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[20:53] <Froolap> I can get the display if I connect directly to the tv hdmi cable.... but that's not optimal.
[20:53] <Tachyon`> the DVI modes perhaps
[20:53] * Tachyon` blinks
[20:53] <Tachyon`> hmm
[20:54] <Tachyon`> yes, the adapters are generally a bit fussy
[20:54] <Tachyon`> abotu wwhat modes are supported
[20:54] <Tachyon`> I'd try 1024x768 mode first as any of them should supprot that
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[20:54] <Tachyon`> and if you get a picture on that, try other ones until you get hte best it supports
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[20:57] <muriani> whooooo got my raspbian+retropie migrated from 32gb to 54gb card
[20:57] <muriani> *64gb
[20:57] <muriani> I half expected that to not work
[20:57] <Froolap> I don't see what modes are available.
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[20:58] <Froolap> hdmi_drive=2 ??????
[21:00] <Ryccardo> muriani: why not? small to big always works (well, maybe if you're copying a 2 GB hard drive to an 80 GB one and then using it on a computer without LBA... ;) )
[21:00] <muriani> hehe
[21:00] <muriani> I've tried that! :P
[21:01] <muriani> Ryccardo: moving partitions around always makes me nervous
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[21:01] <Ryccardo> well, I guess you were copying them around :p
[21:03] <muriani> dd from one card to the other, and the gparted to move/resize yeah
[21:03] <ShorTie> rpi-clone is good for that type of stuff i believe
[21:03] <muriani> orly
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[21:06] <Ryccardo> hmph, looks like my trusted <del>drug</del> dealer won't bring the Pi2 this weekend
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[21:07] <muriani> sadface
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[21:18] <stevenjames> ShorTie i just wrote 2 more raspbian sdcards. what should i do for the initial boot?
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[21:21] <Ryccardo> jam it in and connect the power? :)
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[21:23] <muriani> Ryccardo: +1
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[21:31] <stevenjames> yeah someone earlier was talking about raspi-config Ryccardo
[21:32] <Ryccardo> it will autorun the first time
[21:32] <ShorTie> as far as what ??
[21:32] <ozzzy> stevenjames, that's after the initial boot
[21:32] <ShorTie> raspi-config atuomagically comes up on 1st boot
[21:32] <ShorTie> on a monitor
[21:33] <ShorTie> or tells you to run it if you are ssh in
[21:33] <Ryccardo> the only "very important" part of it is to select a password for the default user, but there are a lot of options you'll want to set
[21:33] <Ryccardo> ssh doesn't start before you enable it, unless they changed that
[21:34] <ShorTie> yes it does, some times you just gotta give it a few to startup is all
[21:34] <stevenjames> ok i didn't understand, i thought it was like pressing e in some grub menus...thanks
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[21:34] <ShorTie> nop, no grub on the pi
[21:35] <Ryccardo> ^
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[21:36] <Ryccardo> (by default, of course... probably at least someone wants to see it ported)
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[21:36] <ShorTie> i'm thinking the ssh delay is for it to generate new keys, but shiftplusone and i have both been threw spindle and it is still there and enabled
[21:37] <ShorTie> there is bootberry/berryboot or NOOBS that offer grub type thing
[21:37] <stevenjames> i know i was thinking there was a command option
[21:37] <Froolap> Do they make a single power adapter for running multiple PI?
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[21:38] <stevenjames> Froolap wouldn't that spread the 5v between all of them?
[21:38] <ozzzy> Froolap, easy to make
[21:38] <Ryccardo> Froolap: well, you can put as many of them in parallel as the power brick can bear
[21:38] <ShorTie> seen someone post 1 the other day Froolap, but it was like 30 bucks for 6 pi's, kinda expensive imho
[21:39] <Froolap> I haven't seen one that had 2 or 5 power cords to connect the pi to.
[21:39] <ozzzy> $30 is expensive?
[21:39] <ShorTie> compared to a power strip and 6 power adapters, ya
[21:39] <Ryccardo> I paid mine (for 1 pi, but in theory it could run 2) for 7 €
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[21:40] <Ryccardo> or get one of those http://www.switchpoweradapter.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/12V-5A-power-supply-1.jpg (5V versions are rare though)
[21:41] <Ryccardo> http://www.waterproofleddriver.com/sale-292350-short-circuit-protection-standard-led-display-power-supply-100w-5v-20a-ip20-60hz-en1122.html
[21:41] <Ryccardo> ↑ 20 A, enough for you? :)
[21:41] <Froolap> I think that would run 3 pi
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[21:46] <ring0> lol, 20 A :)
[21:48] <ShorTie> sortta like redundant power supplies with X amount of adapters in stead of 1 power supply dieing and taking out X # of pi's
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[21:53] * Bilby uses a 30A bench top PSU for testing purposes
[21:53] <Bilby> it's scary overkill
[21:53] <Bilby> I also use it to rescue-charge motorsports batteries :P
[21:54] <Froolap> The only thing I can see if this: http://www.amazon.com/Chromecast-Streaming-MST3K-US-Raspberry-Replacement/dp/B00JKSYCNE/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1426193585&sr=8-7&keywords=pi+power+supply+3
[21:54] <Bilby> He's looking for something to power multiple Pis?
[21:54] <Froolap> and with it making a high pitch whine while plugged in leads me to believe the transformer is leaking and may catch fire.
[21:55] <Froolap> I'
[21:55] <Froolap> I'm trying to cut down on the number of items plugged into a power strip.
[21:56] <Bilby> Aha
[21:56] <Bilby> 3 Pi?
[21:56] <Froolap> Yup
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[21:56] <Bilby> A decent 5A power supply would do you... you can convert a computer PSU or do something from Mean Well, perhaps
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[21:57] <Froolap> MeanWell??? Yeah I mean well but it doesn't always turn out that way.
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[21:59] <Bilby> http://distributor.meanwellusa.com/webnet_usa/search/seriessearch.html
[22:00] <Bilby> website uses two words :P
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[22:03] <Bilby> @ Froolap http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Mean-Well/GS60A05-P1J/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMs1jjUfAXmXyqz32sQFTHtJHUfO7PM0hB0%3d
[22:03] <Bilby> It's $20 but is an honest 6A @ 5V
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[22:04] <muriani> that's not bad
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[22:05] <Bilby> They have some smaller ones that are less expensive too, but that's a great size for 3 Pis... probably enough overhead for 4
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[22:06] <Encrypt> Hey, look what I have found
[22:06] <Encrypt> http://storj.io/index.html
[22:06] <Encrypt> "Decentralized cloud storage"
[22:06] <Encrypt> It would be fun to do that with a Raspberry Pi :D
[22:07] <Encrypt> I mean attaching a hard drive and connecting it to storj
[22:07] <Froolap> thanks
[22:07] <Bilby> Encrypt i've seen a few different projects like that... some that were public, some that were semi-private (you and your friends) and some that wwere private a-la owncloud
[22:08] <Encrypt> Yeah
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[22:08] <Encrypt> But the problem with Owncloud could be a hard drive crashing
[22:09] <Encrypt> Here, it's really a cloud, so data is in multiple locations
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[22:11] <Encrypt> The white paper looks good too :]
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[22:14] <ShorTie> if you close your eyes, does it turn black ??
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[22:16] <Froolap> The problem with a cloud is when it rains.
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[22:16] <Bilby> I'd never convince businesses to put any data on that, so it's effectively useless for me
[22:18] <ShorTie> rain isn't bad, it's that lighting that will get ya
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[22:49] <e^ipi> Bilby: i kinna want to re-jig owncloud to be multi-master & use something robust like Manta for expandable storage
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[22:50] <Bilby> That would be nice. you could always back up the owncloud master and dump it to S3 / glacier
[22:51] <Bilby> I was actually thinking of torrentsync, not owncloud, got them mixed
[22:51] <Bilby> torrentsync is totally distributed iirc... i don't know how exactly it deals with file changes / conflicts though
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[22:54] <e^ipi> dumping to S3 defeats the purpose, you can run manta on your own hardware
[22:54] <e^ipi> it’s s3-like but with a lot of extras ( you can do map/reduce with unix tools on the data in-place for instance )
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[22:58] <Bilby> e^ipi ah okay, that makes sense
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[22:58] <e^ipi> dropbox is already backed by S3
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