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IRC Log for 2015-03-16

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[0:02] <Criggie> Froolap: sopwith camel!
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[0:03] <Froolap> I'll have to give it a try sine I have pi coming out my ears
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[0:06] <Stephini_> hey would any of you know the proper resistor for the led in an NES?
[0:06] <Stephini_> i don't have a multi or i'd use one of the ohm's law calculators myself. :P
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[0:10] <jlf> tried googling nes schematic?
[0:10] <ozzzy> does it matter?
[0:11] <ozzzy> the DOS game sopwith??
[0:11] <Criggie> ozzzy: yes - its packages in debian and fedora
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[0:11] <Stephini_> jlf, even if i did i can't read schematics yet.
[0:11] <ozzzy> I wonder if it's the same one my buddy Dave wrote
[0:11] <Criggie> ozzzy: jesus its scarey how the fingers can remember....
[0:12] <Criggie> "DOO DO DOOOO na na na na DOO DOO...."
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[0:13] <Criggie> ozzzy: "David L. Clark" ?
[0:13] <ozzzy> yep =)
[0:13] <ozzzy> he's in my astronomy group....
[0:13] <Criggie> yep http://www.sopwith.org/
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[0:14] <ozzzy> he'll get a kick out of this
[0:15] <ozzzy> He wrote a nice astronomy app called Clear Sky.
[0:16] <ozzzy> Couple of years ago he got his masters in astronomy and is working on a doctorate in geophysics
[0:16] <Criggie> ozzzy: http://www.wingkong.net/sopwith2b/images/dave.jpg that guy?
[0:17] <ozzzy> Yep
[0:18] <Froolap> good. how many moons does saturn have?
[0:18] <ozzzy> http://www.rasclondon.ca/index.php/member-photos/category/2-members-telescopes
[0:18] <ozzzy> go down to the pic labeled 'Dave Clark'
[0:18] <ozzzy> Froolap, lots
[0:19] <Froolap> yeah, that got me in trouble in highschool, the text book said 12, the briticanica said 14, the worldbook said 16.
[0:19] <ozzzy> it's into the 60s now IIRC
[0:19] <Criggie> Froolap: how many are there we haven't found yet?
[0:20] <Froolap> U-of_M said 16, so that's what I put in my report, so I got an F for not reading the text book that said 12
[0:20] <Criggie> and at what size does a moon become space junk ?
[0:20] <Criggie> "textbook's out of date"
[0:20] <Froolap> well that's the thing that bothered me. I looked at the copyright of each text book, the older it was, the more moons
[0:21] <ozzzy> Criggie, Dave says 'Say hi to them for me'
[0:21] <Froolap> I could understand telescopes getting better through time and finding more.... but where were the missing moons wandering off to?
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[0:23] <Froolap> after I demonstrated my sources, I got an A for the report, but it's always been a question as to the official answer
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[0:28] <drag0nius> what were the boot partition requirements on rpi?
[0:28] <drag0nius> i see some weird stuff on my current card
[0:29] <drag0nius> first 4mb is unassigned
[0:30] <drag0nius> then i've 70 mb "w95 fat32 (LBA)"
[0:30] <ShorTie> ya, they use a wierd size for some reason for the MBR
[0:31] <drag0nius> i want to move it to smaller card, but got not clue how should i format it
[0:31] <Xark> drag0nius: I think the main thing is a MBR partition table and partition one being FAT with boot files on it.
[0:31] <jamesaxl> if i set speed.ChangeDutyCycle(1000) to my DC motor it will damaged ?
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[0:34] <ShorTie> kinda hard to change those without starting from scratch with fdisk
[0:34] <ShorTie> then you can do as you like
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[0:36] <pizearke> hey
[0:36] <pizearke> http://thinkingeek.com/2013/02/02/arm-assembler-raspberry-pi-chapter-9/
[0:36] <pizearke> how come in the multiply by five example they do all that lr backup
[0:37] <pizearke> the function doesn't modify lr at all
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[0:42] <pizearke> oh, I see, it's for the sake of example
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[1:09] <jlf> anyone have comments about moebius vs. minibian?
[1:10] <ShorTie> moebius ??
[1:11] <jlf> http://moebiuslinux.sourceforge.net/
[1:11] <Froolap> minibian??
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[1:12] <jlf> >_>
[1:14] <Stephini_> would it be safe to hook up an led to the pi's 5v and ground? i'm not sure if i'm dropping the voltage with the resistor or something else.
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[1:14] <ozzzy> Stephini_, it would be fine
[1:14] <ShorTie> jlf, what cha after ??
[1:16] <jlf> a minimal distro without squeak and wolfram alpha and a set of python games and ...
[1:17] <ShorTie> a desktop i'm guessing ??
[1:17] <ShorTie> wolfram isn't hard to remove
[1:18] <jlf> yeah, and some minimal serverish stuff
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[1:19] <ShorTie> you ever look at 'dpkg -l' ??
[1:20] <Froolap> nope
[1:20] <Froolap> I don't even have dpkg
[1:20] <ShorTie> you got raspbian or debian ??
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[1:22] <BigJ> will NOOBS create a dual boot environment if you select multiple OS?
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[1:22] <ShorTie> ya
[1:24] <BigJ> ShorTie, were you responding to me?
[1:24] <ShorTie> Yes
[1:24] <BigJ> k thx
[1:25] <ShorTie> think you gotta hit a key during boot to get to options of what you want to boot too
[1:26] <pizearke> yo I just got my sound card in the mail
[1:26] <BigJ> what are my other options for dual booting? Is there something similar to grub?
[1:27] <pizearke> why don't you just buy a second sd card?
[1:28] <pizearke> actually I'll ask about this when I get home
[1:28] <pizearke> ciao babes
[1:28] <BigJ> pizearke, because if I want to travel with it I have to worry about carrying around and losing multiple sd cards, as well as the convenience of being able to select any enviroment I want at boot time. I intend to have a emulator, linux, and media center frontend
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[1:28] <Criggie> how good is the SD slot for durability? I've seen plenty of readers die with use.
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[1:29] <ozzzy> that's why I put the SD card in on creation and leave it there
[1:30] <BigJ> is there a big performance hit booting from a USB stick?
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[1:53] <Xark> BigJ: I found it slower than a good SD card (even nice fast USB 3.0 Flash).
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[1:54] <Xark> Criggie: The older RPi slide in SD card wasn't great, the new clicky uSD card slot seems fine...
[1:55] <Kryczek> Xark: BigJ: Hi! I just joined :) May I ask what the question was?
[1:55] <Xark> BigJ is there a big performance hit booting from a USB stick?
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[1:59] <Criggie> Xark: I guess time will tell
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[2:01] <Kryczek> Can the RPi boot from USB now or do you have /boot on the SD and the rest on USB?
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[2:53] <HoloPed> Is there an easy way to rotate the screen 180 degrees ?
[2:53] <HoloPed> in a way that works in terminal as well
[2:53] <HoloPed> (without booting into X)
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[2:54] <ozzzy> doesn't xrandr do that
[2:54] <ozzzy> oh.. no x
[2:55] <HoloPed> no x.
[2:55] <HoloPed> not possible ?
[2:56] <phire> isn't there an option for config.txt
[2:56] <phire> "display_rotate rotates the display clockwise on the screen (default=0) or flips the display."
[2:57] <phire> display_rotate=2 180 degrees
[2:57] <ozzzy> would that require a reboot
[2:57] <phire> well, yes
[2:57] <ozzzy> I can take my USB monitor and just stand it on it's side and it'll rotate... but that's graphical and Windows
[2:58] <phire> I assume you could do the same with x and some scripts.
[2:59] <ozzzy> I could use the monitor with the Pi if I wanted to compile a kernel
[2:59] <phire> but to get the console to rotate too, you are going to need to modify the kernel.
[2:59] <phire> maybe the firmware too
[3:00] <phire> anyway, I assume HoloPed what's to statically rotate at boot
[3:03] <kd7jwc> i believe you can change the rotation in /boot/config.txt
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[3:20] <Klaus_Dieter> hello world
[3:21] <aaa801> must.. figure out why.. ram usage.. soo damn high
[3:21] <aaa801> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/u6NWkd6Y
[3:21] <Klaus_Dieter> I do not have a monitor attached to my raspi and I am running raspbian and having a hard time capturing the kerneld output when booting. I have this in y cmdline.txt: dwc_otg.lpm_enable=1 ip=192.168.142.50 console=ttyAMA0,115200 kgdboc=ttyAMA0,115200 console=tty1 root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=192.168.142.3:/mnt/data/Software/netboot/raspi-xbmc nfs-options=hard,intr,rw,rsize=32768,wsize=32768 rootwait loglevel=5 sdhci-bcm2708.enable_llm=1 ...
[3:21] <Klaus_Dieter> ... dwc_otg.microframe_schedule=1 dwc_otg.fiq_fix_enable=0 dwc_otg.fiq_split_enable=0 initramfs newimage.igz followkernel
[3:21] <Klaus_Dieter> the device will boot and provide a login but I cannot see the kernel output
[3:22] <Klaus_Dieter> I must be missing something obvious but I have been staring at this for the last 2 hours and cannot spot it so every help is appreciated.
[3:23] <aaa801> the ram usage shows as low, i don't know why the kernel is hogging so much
[3:23] <aaa801> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/XkN3Was9
[3:28] <Klaus_Dieter> aaa801: seems like there is a lot in cache
[3:28] <Klaus_Dieter> aaa801: what problem are you trying to solve?
[3:28] <aaa801> just why the free ram is so low
[3:28] <aaa801> theres only 35mb free, when i use about 30mb in user
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[3:31] <aaa801> Klaus_Dieter: any idea
[3:33] <Mutantx> Has anyone had issues with TUN booting in Archlinux on rp2?
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[3:34] <aaa801> aha i see
[3:34] <Klaus_Dieter> aaa801: it is not free because linux uses it as a cache.
[3:34] <aaa801> linux noms it for disk cache
[3:34] <Klaus_Dieter> aaa801: free ram = wasted ram.
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[3:34] <aaa801> Klaus_Dieter: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/play.html
[3:35] <aaa801> mucho helpfullo
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[3:39] <Klaus_Dieter> now I added "verbose" to that cmdline and I can now see the kernel output until about 4 seconds after boot
[3:39] <Klaus_Dieter> right up to "[ 4.113328] IP-Config: Got DHCP answer from 192.168.142.3, my address is 192.168.142.50
[3:39] <Klaus_Dieter> the next thing I see is the login prompt
[3:41] <HoloPed> Hey all, is there a way to capture images from the pi camera and process them in OpenCV - in real time - In python ?
[3:44] <Klaus_Dieter> the pi has a camera?
[3:44] <ozzzy> it does if you buy one
[3:44] <Xark> Klaus_Dieter: Optional, yes.
[3:44] <Klaus_Dieter> ah ok.
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[3:45] <Xark> Klaus_Dieter: http://www.raspberrypi.org/products/camera-module/
[3:45] <Klaus_Dieter> ok. I figured out that I needed loglevel=6
[3:45] <Klaus_Dieter> now the next issue is that my initrd does not seem to be utilized.
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[3:48] <Klaus_Dieter> doh. it belongs in config.txt not in cmdline
[3:48] <Klaus_Dieter> :/
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[4:05] <waveform> HoloPed, what exactly do you mean by real time?
[4:06] <pizearke> hey, if I ordered my rpi2 less than a month ago, it has the latest version of the kernel, right?
[4:06] <waveform> HoloPed, and for that matter what do you mean by "process them in OpenCV"?
[4:06] <pizearke> I don't want to update it for my hifiberry because I'm lazy as fuck
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[4:07] <pizearke> oh, wait
[4:07] <pizearke> I'm an idiot
[4:07] <waveform> pizearke, the kernel is on the SD card ... ;)
[4:07] <pizearke> yes I just realized that
[4:07] <waveform> heh - no worries :)
[4:08] <HoloPed> waveform, I mean I want to capture frames at least 10 fps, and then detect objects and edges using openCV
[4:09] <waveform> HoloPed, okay, capturing at 10fps no problem. Getting that into OpenCV at 10fps ... maybe, if you're lucky (the bottleneck there is that OpenCV wants everything in unencoded BGR format which is huge)
[4:09] <waveform> HoloPed, however - detect objects and edges at 10fps in OpenCV? Not a chance
[4:10] <HoloPed> how about just detecting changes in over intensity ?
[4:10] <HoloPed> I can work on very small images
[4:10] <HoloPed> Can I capture at 320x240 ?
[4:11] <HoloPed> *overall intensity
[4:11] <waveform> changes in intensity should be pretty simple (very simple if you're willing to treat the Y channel of a YUV capture as intensity - but that's not quite precise)
[4:11] <waveform> and capturing at 320x240, sure - that's easy
[4:11] <HoloPed> ok lets start there, how do I capture from camera ?
[4:11] <waveform> oh, just to make sure - we're talking about the Pi camera module here and not a USB webcam, right?
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[4:13] <waveform> assuming that's the case you'll probably want to start with the OpenCV recipe in the picamera library: http://picamera.readthedocs.org/en/release-1.9/recipes1.html#capturing-to-an-opencv-object
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[4:13] <HoloPed> waveform, yes, the pi camera
[4:14] <HoloPed> Thanks
[4:14] <HoloPed> thats just what I was looking for
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[4:14] <waveform> after that, you might want to have a look at the YUV capture recipe: http://picamera.readthedocs.org/en/release-1.9/recipes2.html#unencoded-image-capture-yuv-format (shouldn't be too tricky to modify that to give you the Y values only, ignoring the UV components)
[4:14] <HoloPed> Is it possible to capture without onscreen preview ?
[4:14] <waveform> sure, just don't call start_preview
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[4:15] <waveform> if you're absolutely starting out with the camera I'd recommend starting with the quick start guide: http://picamera.readthedocs.org/en/release-1.9/quickstart.html
[4:16] <waveform> that should show you the basics, and then the recipes chapters go into all the functionality of the library (well, mostly - I'm still working on some more bits for the next release)
[4:19] <HoloPed> thanks waveform
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[4:20] <waveform> no prob - incidentally on OpenCV object detection, I suspect you *might* be able to manage 1fps on a Pi1 (assuming it's kept reasonably basic). I've no idea about the Pi2's performance with such things yet - haven't had enough time to play with it yet
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[4:25] <Klaus_Dieter> so I want y usb wifi dongle to be visible in an initramfs. I loaded the modules but still the device is not visible in /sys/class/net. what is missing?
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[4:27] <ttys0> doesn't wifi require some userspace pieces that won't be available in the initrd context?
[4:28] <Anorion> anyone running raspbian jessie
[4:28] <Anorion> ?
[4:28] <ttys0> not I .. arch linux here
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[4:28] <Anorion> I'm an old debian guy, but editing /etc/apt/sources.list isn't working the way I'm used to
[4:29] <zaion> hey guys, im making a gps seeker with raspberry py. the webserver has already running now im waiting the packet with raspberry reach my home
[4:29] <ttys0> don't they have a sources.d directory .. perhaps the intention is that sources.list isn't modified directly
[4:29] <Klaus_Dieter> ttys0: I added wpa_supplicant and the wifi drivers to the initramfs
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[4:30] <Klaus_Dieter> ttys0: so ... there shouldn'T be anything missing. I am modprobing the wifi drivers from the init script
[4:30] <ttys0> Klaus_Dieter : I don't understand what the restrictions are in the initrd context, but I would think getting the wpa_supplicant stuff to fire might be troublesome. Is it able to write a log output to /tmp or somewhere else global that you can see later?
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[4:31] <Klaus_Dieter> maybe I need to add udev as well
[4:31] <Klaus_Dieter> ttys0: yeah. I ran lsmod from the init script
[4:32] <Klaus_Dieter> and I can see no output which means that no modules are loaded even though I modprobed them
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[4:32] <ttys0> but that's part of my confusion. Each additional step is another piece that you would expect to be available in a running system, but the initrd context isn't that. How much can you really shoehorn in?
[4:32] <Klaus_Dieter> ttys0: everything....
[4:33] <Klaus_Dieter> ttys0: this is a second rootfs before the rootfs is mounted
[4:33] <zaion> ..have you guys already heard about a gps seeker with web monitoring under raspberry pi utilizing 3g network and gps usb
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[4:34] <ttys0> okay, but even if it worked, it would then collapse again as soon as the rootfs switched to the "real" root
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[4:35] <Klaus_Dieter> ttys0: depends on what you tear down. essentially boot from nfs does exactly the same thing
[4:35] <Klaus_Dieter> just with a regular nic
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[4:35] <Klaus_Dieter> it brings up the interface mounts the real root and continues to boot
[4:35] <Klaus_Dieter> by calling init off of it
[4:35] <ttys0> right, but that's not typically done with wireless, which has more userspace dependencies than a wired interface
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[4:43] <Klaus_Dieter> ttys0: unfortunately
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[4:44] <Klaus_Dieter> well... I may be able to start a shell from initrafs and then maybe I can go from there loding the modules
[4:45] <lickalott> Hey guys! I got that edimax 150. Having a little trouble installing the drivers. I know it's something stupid, was wondering if someone could give me a hint... I'm ssh'd in and run the install.sh script that comes with the driver package but it says that "make" doesn't exist on the system. (understandably). Do I need to compile on another *nix box and move it over or is there an easier way
[4:45] <lickalott> shiftplusone, Ullarah
[4:46] <Ullarah> Hello!
[4:46] <lickalott> sup man! Just got that edimax today.
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[4:46] <Ullarah> Reading now :)
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[4:46] <Ullarah> lickalott, apt-get install build-essential
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[4:46] <Ullarah> Then retry the install.sh script.
[4:47] <zaion> lickalott, i think you need install gcc and buld the package
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[4:47] <lickalott> no working apt-get.....
[4:47] <lickalott> I'm using openelec
[4:47] <Ullarah> Oh...
[4:47] <Ullarah> Uhhhhh
[4:48] <lickalott> i can go standard xbian if that would help.
[4:48] <Ullarah> Wow. xbian is still around? :o
[4:48] <lickalott> in my archives it is.... :P
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[4:49] <Klaus_Dieter> lickalott: apt-get build-essential
[4:49] <Ullarah> lickalott, check out this guide, it's for cross compiling between distro in RPi for openelec. https://gist.github.com/basilfx/1485bfbaccec04bf7c4a
[4:50] <Klaus_Dieter> argh
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[4:50] <Ullarah> It should be easy enough to follow that guide.
[4:50] <lickalott> looking now. Thanks!
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[4:51] <Ullarah> Other than that, install something like minibian on your RPi then install kodi seperately.
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[4:51] <Ullarah> Sorry I can't be of much help with that :P
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[4:52] <lickalott> it's all good man. I appreciate you taking the time regardless
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[4:55] <Klaus_Dieter> ttys0: I found that I was missing the wifi firmware... this is actually progressing... :)
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[4:56] <ttys0> LOL ... best of luck, man. I still think you're trying to whip a reluctant horse down the road of madness. :)
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[5:04] <Klaus_Dieter> IP-Config: wlan0 hardware address b0:48:7a:87:24:3d mtu 1500 DHCP RARP :)
[5:04] <Klaus_Dieter> ttys0: nice image....
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[5:07] <ttys0> :)
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[5:28] <pizearke> I'm using alsa's sound test
[5:28] <pizearke> and I can't get sound out of my hifiberry :/
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[6:07] <yoosi> evening all
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[6:30] <aharris6> hi all, anyone familiar with the "Rpi Automatic Video Looper" software?
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[7:23] <jonascj> Hi all. How can I supply 5V to a compnent using raspberry pi? Can I get 5V supply from the GPIO pins?
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[7:26] <jonascj> according to the GPIO layout / pinout there is 2x 5V pins. Can I use those as supply?
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[7:52] <Triffid_Hunter> jonascj: sure, but same caveats as the usb port, don't pull more than ~200mA or things are gonna get sad
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[10:12] <ali1234> why, what's wrong with it?
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[10:14] <shiftplusone> struggling getting slave transmit working
[10:16] <shiftplusone> *to get... grammar fail.
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[11:42] <PaowZ_> hi there ! I flashed raspbuntu on a SDcard and it boots successfully, but I cannot open ssh link as a root even though I changed password..
[11:42] <PaowZ_> any clue ?
[11:43] <ShorTie> you mean you can not ssh into it ??
[11:43] <Kryczek> PaowZ_: try ssh'ing as a user and then using sudo?
[11:44] <ShorTie> are you sure ssh is install ??
[11:44] <Kryczek> PaowZ_: it most likely has "PermitRootLogin no" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
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[11:44] <PaowZ_> hi Kryczek, actually, I have a bunch of files to copy through 'scp' command..
[11:44] <PaowZ_> ok.. I check sshd_config
[11:46] <ShorTie> here, this will fix that if it the problem, sed -i 's/PermitRootLogin without-password/PermitRootLogin yes/' /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[11:47] <PaowZ_> I have "PermitRootLogin without_password"
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[11:47] <ShorTie> use that sed ^^^^^
[11:47] <PaowZ_> yup
[11:48] <Triffid_Hunter> PaowZ_: you should leave it as without_password, and put your ssh key into /root/.ssh/authorized_keys via sudo
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[11:49] <PaowZ_> ok
[11:50] <PaowZ_> ..and restart daemon..
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[11:53] <Triffid_Hunter> PaowZ_: no need to restart daemon if you don't change its config
[11:54] <ShorTie> could you just creat a symlink to the ssh keys in /root/.ssh/ ??
[11:55] <ShorTie> do you know off the top of your head where the keys are stored ??
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[11:56] <Triffid_Hunter> ShorTie: each system+user combo should have its own keys, ~/.ssh/authorized_keys can hold many
[11:56] <Kryczek> ShorTie: the .ssh/ of the machine FROM which you are connecting must have a .pub file, like id_rsa.pub or id_ecdsa.pub
[11:56] <Kryczek> ShorTie: if it doesn't, you can create one with `ssh-keygen -t rsa -b 2048`
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[11:57] <Triffid_Hunter> ShorTie: you should never copy a key from one system to another, that's a breach of security theory
[11:57] <Kryczek> ShorTie: then you need to copy the .pub file (not the other ones! id_rsa without .pub is your private key, to keep private) as ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on the TARGET machine
[11:57] <ShorTie> oh, so your saying every machine might need modifing ??
[11:58] <Kryczek> ShorTie: how many machines are there?
[11:58] <ShorTie> who knows, i got maybe a 1/2 dozen
[11:59] <Triffid_Hunter> ShorTie: every account on every machine should have a separate ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub, and they should be added to the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on every system that you want to be able to log into
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[11:59] <Triffid_Hunter> theory being, if one machine is compromised, you can revoke its key everywhere relevan
[11:59] <Triffid_Hunter> t
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[12:01] <Kryczek> 10:54 < ShorTie> could you just creat a symlink to the ssh keys in /root/.ssh/ ??
[12:01] <Kryczek> ShorTie: the /root/ directory often has its permission set to 700 which prevents others from entering it
[12:01] <Kryczek> so your symlink would not work
[12:01] <ShorTie> understand the reason/objective, but creates alot of extra work
[12:01] <Kryczek> no no, it's very easily scriptable :)
[12:02] <ShorTie> think i'll stick to the dirty hack
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[12:02] <Kryczek> plus you could use a program like clusterssh (or cssh) to execute the same keystrokes over many different SSH connections
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[12:02] <Kryczek> ShorTie: is it just you connecting from one machine to all the others?
[12:03] <ShorTie> ya
[12:03] <Kryczek> and you use the same username everywhere?
[12:04] <ShorTie> well of course, lol.
[12:04] <Kryczek> so from your main machine you can simply do:
[12:04] <ShorTie> root most of the time
[12:06] <Kryczek> for MACHINE in machine1 machine2 machine3; cat .ssh/id_rsa.pub | ssh $MACHINE 'mkdir -p .ssh; tee -a .ssh/authorized_keys'; done
[12:06] <Kryczek> you shouldn't connect as root most of the time
[12:06] <Kryczek> you should use sudo when you need it
[12:06] <ShorTie> ya, ya, been doing it for the last 15 years though
[12:06] <Kryczek> otherwise it's bad security practice and you might have to modify all the sshd_config's
[12:07] <Kryczek> so?
[12:07] <Kryczek> you've been doing it wrong for 15 years :)
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[12:08] <ShorTie> it's the whole adduser/group thing, just never got into it i guess
[12:08] <ShorTie> i live on the wild side and just use root .. :/~
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[12:14] <Kryczek> ShorTie: nowadays most Linux installers force you to create a non-root user ;)
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[12:15] <ShorTie> don't think so, if you start off with a basic install atleast
[12:16] <ShorTie> might be a 'we highly recommend' thing
[12:16] <Kryczek> weird
[12:17] <Kryczek> but then again I always install in expert mode
[12:17] <ShorTie> i hait it when a computor tells me i can't do something
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[12:17] <ShorTie> it's like oh ya, i got the most power as i rip the power cord out of the wall, there take that, lol.
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[12:20] <ShorTie> 'expert', i'm no expert and never interesting in being 'A Has Been Drip Under Pressure' either really, lol.
[12:21] <Kryczek> ShorTie: you're just giving all that power to whoever might get you to run malicious code, as well
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[12:34] <NetBilly> Hello. I am stuck trying to curl to localhost from Linux raspberrypi 3.18.7+. http://127.0.01 doesn't work either. I also tried to the actual IP of the device.
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[12:38] <Kryczek> NetBilly: you're missing a dot? 127.0.0.1
[12:38] <NetBilly> oh. just a typo on here
[12:39] <NetBilly> iptables is also disabled. I don't get why it doesn't work
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[12:41] <Kryczek> do you get any error message?
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[12:41] <NetBilly> timeout
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[12:42] <NetBilly> tcpdump shows nothing connecting, so it is not getting to the port
[12:42] <Kryczek> tcpdump -i lo
[12:42] <Kryczek> ?
[12:42] <Kryczek> otherwise tcpdump will listen to eth0 by default
[12:45] <NetBilly> I am installing telnet. Maybe curl is broken
[12:46] <ShorTie> what is your curl line if i can ask ??
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[12:47] <NetBilly> curl -i http://127.0.0.1
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[12:48] <NetBilly> telnet doesn't work either
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[12:49] <pksato> NetBilly: have httpd running ? (apache, lighthttp. ngnix, etc)
[12:49] <NetBilly> it works from everything else on my network
[12:49] <ShorTie> are you really telling curl to do anything ??
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[12:50] <pksato> have a error?
[12:50] <Kryczek> NetBilly: you can try telnet but you most likely already have wget as well
[12:50] <Kryczek> wget -O - -S http://127.0.0.1/
[12:51] <NetBilly> just tried lynx too
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[12:52] <pksato> and, http server listing on all interfaces? netstat -tnl | grep :80 can get tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:80 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN
[12:53] <Kryczek> NetBilly: does `iptables -nvL` as root show ACCEPT or DROP on INPUT and OUTPUT?
[12:54] <NetBilly> it is listening on 0.0.0.0:80 ( it works from other devices on my network, just not from localhost )
[12:54] <NetBilly> I made some changes to /etc/network/interfaces. rebooting
[12:54] <ShorTie> curl -i http://127.0.0.1
[12:55] <ShorTie> curl: (7) couldn't connect to host
[12:55] <ShorTie> still think it's more in the curl line, then curl
[12:55] <NetBilly> sigh. loopback interface didn't have an ip
[12:55] <NetBilly> it is working now
[12:55] <Kryczek> lol
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[12:59] <ShorTie> so it was a hosts problem ??
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[13:03] <Kryczek> no hosts is what translates localhost to 127.0.0.1 (or 127.0.1.1 for example on some systems) but I would bet your /etc/network/interfaces had a problem
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[13:06] <NetBilly> yes. I added auto lo, and iface lo inet loopback to /etc/network/interfaces
[13:06] <NetBilly> no idea why it wasn't in there.
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[13:26] <_nim> Hey, I was thinking about using my Pi to remotely open/close my window. Would this be possible using the GPIO pins, and if so, which parts would I need?
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[13:27] <Kryczek> Hi _nim
[13:27] <Kryczek> I am not electronics expert but I would say you would need at least actuators for the strength to open the window
[13:28] <Kryczek> then I suspect you would need some circuitry to provide the actuator(s) with enough power, which is likely more than what the GPIO pins could provide
[13:29] <Kryczek> so I guess the GPIO pins would drive some relays, but someone else here would know better :)
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[13:30] <_nim> Kryczek: Hmm, sounds like a fun project, albeit probably expensive :)
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[13:31] <Kryczek> _nim: it might be cheaper and more reliable to get a remote-controlled window and have the Pi send signals to it
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[13:32] <_nim> Kryczek: I live in an apartment where I am not allowed to replace the windows, unfortunately :(
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[13:33] <Kryczek> out of curiosity may I ask why you want to open a window remotely? Maybe we can suggest alternatives
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[13:34] <edjuh> sling release plus brick-loader
[13:35] <_nim> Kryczek: Well actually, it's for our bedroom, and it's often either too cold or too hot in there, so I got a pi running with a DHT22 sensor to measure and log the temperature every minute, which is quite useful, but it would be nice to script the pi to automatically open/close the window in accordance to the temp. measurements, as to always keep the room at a nice temperature, if that made sense
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[13:38] <edjuh> no other gaps or ventilation oppurtunities ?
[13:38] <Kryczek> _nim: why not control the heating with the Pi instead?
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[13:39] <_nim> Kryczek: That would probably require a lot of drilling and a hacky solution. Heating is very old fashioned, located in another room. On top of that the heat exits are all in the roof. It's very stupid... edjuh: Nope
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[13:40] <Kryczek> _nim: what kind of window is it that you would like to control with the Pi?
[13:41] <Kryczek> i.e. does it swing open or slide, or?
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[13:42] <Kryczek> _nim: https://tackk.com/nightcooling sounds fairly similar
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[13:44] <_nim> Kryczek: It's hard to describe as English is not my native language, but it swings open vertically. Two hinges, one on each side
[13:45] <edjuh> nim, where are you from? curious
[13:45] <Kryczek> ah, are you Danish?
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[13:45] <Kryczek> English is not my native language either but I know how to pronounce roedgroed med floede :p
[13:45] <NetBilly> Kryczek: look for Arduino Actuator control examples, then use the servoblaster library to control it using PWM - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jMrsh8Zqxw
[13:46] <Kryczek> NetBilly: thank you but _nim is the one trying that ;)
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[13:46] <NetBilly> ah. I see
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[13:47] <Kryczek> there's also http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=94073&p=655475 which has advice for open a door
[13:47] <_nim> edjuh, Kryczek: Danish, yes. Netbilly: Thanks for the link! Looks interesting!
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[13:49] <Kryczek> _nim: and http://forum.pololu.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8916 if you want chicken too :D
[13:49] <Kryczek> (or not)
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[13:50] <Kryczek> now I'm jealous of your project _nim
[13:50] <Kryczek> I need to get back to building my Pi-controlled world domination robot
[13:51] <_nim> hahaha
[13:51] <edjuh> Kryczek++
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[13:53] <edjuh> < Dutch
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[13:53] <edjuh> similar but different to Danish :P
[13:54] <Kryczek> ik sprek een beetje Nederlands
[13:54] <Kryczek> < studied at uu.nl :P
[13:54] <edjuh> het was bijna goed
[13:54] <edjuh> ik spreek
[13:54] <Kryczek> aaah!
[13:55] <Kryczek> I typed spreek at first but thought it was wrong
[13:55] <Kryczek> it's been more than 10 years now :(
[13:55] <edjuh> but with a slight accent in mind it was perfect
[13:55] <Hix> Kryczek FETs would probably be the best option from the pins to actuators
[13:56] <_nim> Kryczek, edjuh, NetBilly: I better get back to work. Thanks for your help!
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[13:56] <_nim> Got some reading to do now
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[13:56] <edjuh> oi oi nim
[13:56] <Kryczek> Hix: _nim is the one asking but thanks, I might need that for rotating my robot's tank turret
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[13:57] <Hix> ah sorry, limited scrooling on my part :)
[13:57] <edjuh> Kryczek: you are from guess cz?
[13:57] <Kryczek> edjuh: haha my nick is misleading sorry, French but living in the UK :)
[13:58] <edjuh> ah, je m`excuse
[13:58] <teclo-> Hi there, I see there are HDMI to VGA converters for the Raspberry Pi, but... is it a good idea ?
[13:58] <edjuh> teclo-: it is
[13:58] <edjuh> dx.com has some decent solutions
[13:59] <Kryczek> teclo-: just in case: is DVI not an option?
[13:59] <Kryczek> edjuh: no need :)
[13:59] <edjuh> friend of mine has one, less than 6 dollars
[13:59] <ivh> So, I know the Pi should be shut down properly, but I wonder what the likelyhood of filesustem damage actually is when it roughly gets plugged out of power. (I have it running at our place that gets renovated atm, and the guys turn off power now and then...)
[13:59] <teclo-> Kryczek: no the LCD screen only has an VGA input
[13:59] <edjuh> < french heritage (hugenotes)
[14:00] <Kryczek> teclo-: ah, pity!
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[14:00] <teclo-> ivh: I wouldn't recommend "pulling the plug"... I've already had a Raspberrey Pi completely "broken" beacaue of that
[14:00] <edjuh> ivh, some fiddling with /var/log and temp space saves a lot of bother
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[14:01] <teclo-> edjuh: you mean putting /tmp and /var/log on other partitions might be a good ideA ?
[14:01] <Kryczek> teclo-: in software or do you mean actual hardware damage? I imagine it would be possible to have a Pi not mind plug pulls if running a live system on it like Debian Live for example which I saw someone ported to the Pi
[14:01] <ivh> teclo-: broken as in hardware? or just not bootable installation?
[14:01] <edjuh> uhmmm, no, swap them out to memory
[14:02] <teclo-> ivh: no, just not bootable
[14:02] <teclo-> edjuh: mount them on tmpfs ?
[14:02] <ivh> edjuh: can you elaborate? you mean limit the writing to the sd-card?
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[14:02] <edjuh> otherwise only use boot partition, and everything to some USB stick
[14:02] <edjuh> teclo- is right on the money
[14:03] <edjuh> swap out to tmpfs
[14:03] <Kryczek> would mounting the SD as 'sync' help or make it worse by the way?
[14:03] <ivh> edjuh: ok.
[14:03] <melwyn> hey everyone! i am running two Pi's from one battery/solar-platform and would like to suspend one pi during the night to save power. i have used a camping-timer so far but looking for a "better" solution cause the timer has some serious clock drift.
[14:03] <Hix> Any ideas what is up with " import RPi.GPIO as GPIO" on the Pi2? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=VxC4Wd1u
[14:04] <Hix> melwyn RTC and crontab script?
[14:04] <melwyn> is there a way to wake the pi back up after a shutdown? maybe by shortening a pin somehow? it would be great to trigger the awakening with the other pi
[14:04] <Hix> http://www.hobbytronics.co.uk/real-time-clock-module-ds1302?utm_source=google&utm_medium=googleshopping&utm_campaign=googlebase&gclid=Cj0KEQjw_pmoBRDu986bpISz5ZsBEiQANiuHDPYOEZh6cCCl_qW0qw5Bmd1k8WytfVZXphzCR_xF9IYaAj8e8P8HAQ
[14:04] <shiftplusone> melwyn, yeah, there are reset pins you can use.
[14:05] <Hix> you can use the 'Run' header by the DSI port to trigger wake up
[14:05] <Hix> that link to pastebin I posted is a sudo halt sccript melwyn, though it seems to not work on the Pi2 for some reason...
[14:07] <melwyn> oh, i just forgot to mention that the pi's are at different location +/- 50m. that makes it harder with the reset-pin i think :-/
[14:07] <melwyn> Hix: thanks, i will have a look.
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[14:08] <Hix> maybe something like this melwyn http://www.hobbytronics.co.uk/wireless/rf-transmit-receiver/rfm12b-wireless-breakout
[14:08] <Kryczek> melwyn: maybe you can add a photosensitive switch on the Pi's power line?
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[14:09] <Kryczek> you might have to add a hysteresis though as otherwise your Pi might end up going on/off many times at dusk and dawn
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[14:11] <Kryczek> although there must be day/night sensors with built-in hysteresis
[14:11] <melwyn> Kryczek: good point i will keep that in mind. it should be as simple as possible. i have some relais left somewhere, may i can just remove and reapply the power with the relais-switch
[14:12] <Kryczek> melwyn: probably the wrong voltages etc but I would use something like that: http://www.lightupuk.co.uk/special-offers/external-photocell-switch-sensor-ip65-twilight-switch?pk_campaign=GoogleShopping&gclid=CPymldL5rMQCFTHLtAodWkYAOg
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[14:14] <melwyn> Kryczek: oh that would be simple, yeah.
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[14:15] <melwyn> if anyone wants to have a look at my project: http://www.early-birds.ch summer: nest-watch for birds, summer/winter: squirrel-feeder
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[14:16] <Hix> something similar my end melwyn http://nestboxcam.hopto.org/
[14:17] <melwyn> Hix: oh cool! with live-stream, very nice. the internet-connection at my place is unfortunately too slow for that
[14:17] <Hix> :/
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[14:18] <waveform> Hix, looks like you've got an old version of the python-rpi.gpio package; the one that got released with the Pi2 capable firmware was initially incompatible
[14:19] <waveform> there's a new one released now so the usual "apt-get update", "apt-get upgrade" should fix things
[14:19] <Kryczek> melwyn: Hix: nice
[14:19] <Hix> cheers waveform unfortunately it's under my desk on a serial term with no connection to interwebs
[14:20] <Hix> ahhhh! Xperia wireless hotspot could do.... hmm
[14:21] <waveform> Ah ... yeah, I'm afraid you'll need that net connection. If I recall correctly the fix wasn't a simple one-liner
[14:21] <Hix> slow but seems to work so far :D
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[14:28] <Hix> damn BSOD. Serial cable doesn't seem to like my workstation at work
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[14:32] <ozzzy> a cable is causing a bsd??
[14:32] <Hix> so I thought I'd use my thinkpad and ubuntu to serial into the Pi and use WiFi hotspot on phone to apt-get update etc
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[14:33] <Hix> turns out thinkpad doesn't have screen. I see a bit of an infinite loop forming here :)
[14:33] <Hix> ozzzy it seems to be
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[14:34] <ozzzy> I can see what's on the end of the cable causing a problem.... but a cable is just copper
[14:34] <Hix> ah, it's a serial > usb adaptor, prolific 'ironic' chip based
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[14:35] <ozzzy> ahhhh.
[14:35] <ozzzy> a dongle... that makes sense. I couldn't see a cable causing issues
[14:35] <ozzzy> as long as you have Win7 there should be no issues.... there are no Win8 drivers for older prolific chips
[14:36] <ozzzy> and the Pi will use them
[14:36] * ozzzy has a pile of them [sigh]
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[14:37] <Hix> It's a new one, the last one died. Both have caused BSOD on Win7 64
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[14:38] <ozzzy> hmmm
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[14:39] <Hix> PL2303HX is the new one
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[14:41] <Hix> as is the old one it appears
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[14:48] <Hix> ouch sudo apt-get update = 35Mb on a 2.5G phone connection via a laptop and usb > serial. What could possibly go wrong?
[14:51] <Hix> damn wolfram-engine, how to update without that - if forgot
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[14:52] <waveform> Hix, if you only want to update an individual package, just to "sudo apt-get install python-rpi.gpio" - install upgrades as well
[14:52] <waveform> (after apt-get update obviously otherwise it won't realize there's a new version available)
[14:52] <Hix> nice
[14:52] <waveform> but yeah, if you don't need mathematica, I'd just remove it - it's a huge beast and makes upgrades take ages when there's a new release
[14:53] <Hix> sweet
[14:53] <Kryczek> I wish Raspbian would provide minimal images, the first thing I do is always remove most of the packages...
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[14:56] <waveform> Hix, "sudo apt-get remove wolfram-engine" should get rid of the bloat ("460 MB disk space will be freed")
[14:57] <Hix> whoa that simple. I'll see what else I can get rid off too. there were loads of pat files on backup t'other day. Looked like some music package from memory
[14:57] <waveform> there's probably a fair bit more that can be removed, but removal is something to be careful of - it is possible to remove stuff that the system depends on and break stuff (obviously wolfram-engine doesn't fall under that category though)
[14:58] <waveform> in other words, I only tend to remove stuff I'm quite sure I don't need and which is obvious bloat that has nothing to do with the system
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[14:58] <Hix> scratch for a start
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[14:59] <waveform> yeah, that's probably a safe candidate. You may also find "apt-get" starts talking about "packages were automatically installed and are no longer required"
[14:59] <Hix> melwyn http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=VxC4Wd1u now works for "sudo halt" from a button on pins 14 & 16
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[14:59] <Perdouille> Hello everyone !
[14:59] <Hix> then use the header by DSI to boot
[14:59] <waveform> those are hanging dependencies that were only required by the packages you've removed. It won't remove them immediately, but afterwards you can do "sudo apt-get autoremove" to remove them afterward
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[15:01] <Hix> how do I get a list of packages?
[15:01] <waveform> Hix, a list of what packages? Those installed?
[15:01] <waveform> Hix, or a list of packages that can potentially be installed?
[15:01] <Hix> to remove
[15:01] <Hix> ls in /usr/bin?
[15:02] <waveform> Hix, well - a list of all packages installed is easily obtained with "dpkg -l" but which ones you can safely remove ... that's basically down to knowing the system I'm afraid
[15:02] <Hix> I'm not going to go crazy on it, jus the obvious
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[15:02] <Perdouille> I got a little question : I use my raspberry pi B+ in a school project and I need to know if I can connect it using a power generator (with the +5v and the GND)
[15:03] <Perdouille> And what's the max current it can recieve
[15:03] <Hix> is the power generator 5V?
[15:03] <Perdouille> (Sorry for my maybe bad english)
[15:03] <Perdouille> The generator is 12V but I use a component to make it 5V for the raspberry
[15:04] <Hix> hmm dpkg -l works but I cannot remember the syntax for pausing autoscroll
[15:04] <waveform> Hix, just pipe it to less so you can scroll around and search: "dpkg -l | less"
[15:04] <waveform> (q to quit less, / to search for regex, up/down/pgup/pgdn should all work normally in there, etc.)
[15:05] <Hix> cool - been a while since I used a few of the *nix commands
[15:05] <Datalink> Perdouille, provided you add filter caps and are using something like a TSR 1-2450 it should be doable, however I would be concerned about low power situations
[15:05] <waveform> less is just a nicer version of more (because "less is more" ... yes, unix humour never gets better ;)
[15:05] <Hix> Perdouille these are ideal http://goo.gl/EUNbHa
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[15:07] <Perdouille> Yeah I got something like that
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[15:07] <Perdouille> But if there is a lot of current it wont burn ?
[15:08] <Hix> I believe that the Pi will only draw the current it needs if you are dropping 12V to 5V then it should be ok temp-wise
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[15:11] <Perdouille> Thanks :) I'll tell you if it burns ^^
[15:13] <Datalink> Perdouille, are you using the USB power port or the 5V on P1?
[15:13] <Perdouille> Maybe for the wifi
[15:14] <Datalink> I'm talking power into the Pi, not out of
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[15:14] <Perdouille> Yeah there is multiple things connected to the 5v if that what you mean
[15:14] <Datalink> there are extra protections on the MicroUSB port
[15:14] <Perdouille> There is a relay and some leds and buttons
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[15:15] <Perdouille> (afk 20 minutes, sorry ^^)
[15:15] <Datalink> Perdouille, okay, you will want a filter cap as close to the P1 5V rail as you can manage, as well as caps near the electromechanical
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[15:26] <Jaeger2k> can someone tell me where pin 1 is located on rpi b+ rev 1.2?
[15:26] <Jaeger2k> to the edge or the the usb?
[15:27] <Hix> https://www.dropbox.com/s/sq1cehih7rnpwiv/GPIO_Pi2.png?dl=0
[15:27] <Hix> Jaeger2k ^
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[15:27] <Jaeger2k> ah, the power pin is a square
[15:28] <Jaeger2k> thanks
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[15:43] <Hix> This page is a great resource for backing up & imaging a Pi http://goo.gl/P7uDis
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[15:51] <Tenkawa> hi all
[15:51] <Hix> hi Tenkawa
[15:51] <Tenkawa> whats new?
[15:51] <Hix> for me http://nestboxcam.hopto.org/
[15:51] <Hix> working with no flicker
[15:51] <Tenkawa> got it going? nice
[15:51] <Hix> though no residents
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[15:52] <Hix> fingers crossed
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[15:53] <Armand> Did your camera get buried in snow?
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[15:53] <Armand> I just see white.
[15:54] <Hix> yeah, it's just the base of the nextbox atm
[15:54] <Armand> Aaahhhh
[15:54] <Armand> Birdbox ?
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[15:55] <Hix> yup
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[15:56] <Hix> sorry my typing is apalling
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[15:56] <Hix> make learning to code so much fun when you are typo-king
[15:56] <Armand> Noice.. I'm tempted to make one myself when we get our own place.
[15:57] <Armand> That's ok, I understand typonese. ^_^
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[15:57] <Hix> heh
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[15:58] <Hix> I'm going to replicate the system in a housing and leave it out overnight with a battery to see what wildlife motion picks up and records
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[15:59] <Armand> Sounds good. I've built a nice solar set up, so I'm good for powering projects. :)
[15:59] <Armand> Needs more panels though.
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[16:01] <Hix> hmm, interesting, what sort of size is it?
[16:02] <Armand> Currently 20W panel, 5x 7Ah batteries.
[16:03] <Hix> nice and light then :)
[16:03] <Armand> lol
[16:03] <Armand> The primary purpose will be for powering an ARM webserver cluster, but I can use it for lots of things that take 12v/5v
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[16:04] <Hix> cool
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[16:13] <Tenkawa> cheers all
[16:13] <Tenkawa> bbl
[16:13] <Hix> "/var/cache/apt/archives/" safe to clear that out? Loads of old crap from newly removed wolfram-engine and sonic-pi in there
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[16:14] <Hix> ahh sudo apt-get clean doe sit for you
[16:14] <Hix> doe sit or does it
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[16:20] <HoloPed> hi waveform , you around ?
[16:20] <waveform> HoloPed, yup
[16:20] <HoloPed> I've been working the camera and opencv recepies
[16:21] <HoloPed> I see that you can run capture_continuous
[16:21] <HoloPed> and get a series of frame, into a memory stream
[16:21] <HoloPed> but the FPS is still very low, about 2
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[16:21] <waveform> HoloPed, are you capturing with use_video_port=False (the default) or use_video_port=True
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[16:22] <HoloPed> ah, didn't know abiout that
[16:22] <HoloPed> so its probably set to false
[16:22] <waveform> okay, basically there's a couple of virtual "ports" on the Pi's camera - the still port and the video port
[16:22] <waveform> the camera hardware chapter in the docs goes through some high level detail of the differences
[16:23] <waveform> but basically the video port is *much* faster at capturing, but the images will look "grainy" compared to still port images
[16:23] <HoloPed> ok great, I got it
[16:23] <waveform> because the video port uses a much weaker (but faster) denoise algorithm, and doesn't bother with mode-switching to the maximum resolution (which always happens when still port capturing)
[16:23] <waveform> there's another recipe that goes through some basic usage of use_video_port for rapid capture and processing: http://picamera.readthedocs.org/en/release-1.9/recipes2.html#rapid-capture-and-processing
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[16:24] <HoloPed> cool sauce
[16:24] <steve_rox> set iso lower if target is still?
[16:24] <waveform> I'd ignore the end of that recipe though as it goes into heavy territory like threading
[16:24] <HoloPed> oh I need that as well
[16:24] <waveform> heh - well, good luck with that - it's not a particularly fun topic under python due to the GIL
[16:24] <steve_rox> gil?
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[16:25] <waveform> steve_rox, Global Interpreter Lock - see https://wiki.python.org/moin/GlobalInterpreterLock and/or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Interpreter_Lock
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[16:26] <steve_rox> oh right
[16:26] <waveform> basically means you can't run more than one thread of python code simultaneously (there are exceptions to this when the python code is actually wrapped C stuff or you're waiting on IO, but the point is if you want parallelism you need to know about these details)
[16:26] <steve_rox> i wanna try do some gui thu python at some point
[16:27] <waveform> personally I'd recommend Qt as a good toolkit, albeit a rather large one. If you're just starting out you might want to try Tkinter first (which is built into python)
[16:27] <steve_rox> ah ill have to google that
[16:27] <waveform> no need for threading in either case of those though (the message loop will give you enough concurrency for things like non-modal dialogs and so on)
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[16:29] <steve_rox> im so sleepy
[16:29] <steve_rox> thanks for the info
[16:29] <steve_rox> ive put it in a browser tab
[16:29] <steve_rox> im really bad at havin too many tabs
[16:30] <waveform> have fun - incidentally, if you do find yourself needing multi-core processing, it's worth looking into the built-in multiprocessing module too (provides concurrency via processes instead of threads - but its API is almost identical so it's generally fairly simply to port between the two)
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[16:31] <steve_rox> ill just try stick with what i know for now :-P
[16:31] <waveform> fair enough :)
[16:32] <steve_rox> my rpi2 is still in its box safe at moment
[16:32] <aberrant> eh. Python’s gonna start showing its limitations soon
[16:32] <steve_rox> going to try intergrate into a plastic tool case thing
[16:33] <steve_rox> 7 inch lcd composite display v5
[16:33] <steve_rox> 5v*
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[16:39] <jamesaxl> hi
[16:40] <jamesaxl> i just discover that with pwm we can control motors speed without need to pot :D , i am silly boy
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[16:46] <teclo-> so, about hat HDMI to VGA converter ? I guess it's a bad idea, since with VGA I'll never get 1080p but stuff like 640x480 or 800x600 or 1024x768...
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[16:51] <muriani> teclo-: my VGA converter outputs the resolution its given on hdmi
[16:51] <muriani> 720p, 1080o, etc
[16:51] <muriani> I've only used it with the ouya, but that's the experience I had
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[16:54] <Froolap> where? which one? how much?
[16:56] <muriani> It was just some random chinese one on amazon
[16:56] <muriani> maybe $15?
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[16:56] <Froolap> I'm using theses with my pi's. works well. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BUKO6CW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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[16:58] <Froolap> but if there's ones that will say the resolution on screen, I want one.
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[17:00] <ozzzy> wouldn't it just be the native resolution of the monitor?
[17:02] <ozzzy> http://goo.gl/vm1nqw <-- I bought that one
[17:02] <Froolap> no. there's nothing that says that the computer has to send the highest resolution possible....
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[17:04] <Froolap> what if I'm sending 1280x024 and the monitor don't like it. would be nice if the monitor could tell me what it's not liking.
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[17:05] <kisak> there's a Raspberry Pi A (26 pin gpio) in the second episode of CSI: Cyber
[17:05] <ozzzy> you'd see it on the display
[17:05] <ozzzy> but the one I got just tells the computer what the resolution is
[17:06] <ozzzy> like my USB monitor.... it's one resolution and the computer works with it
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[17:08] <chris_99> kisak, heh, what do they use it for
[17:09] <kisak> an example of a PLC (re)programmer
[17:09] <kisak> it wasn't running, but there was a closeup with the logo easily visible
[17:10] <kisak> the story went -- here's a cheap easy computer, now watch me mess with the PLC in the elevator from my phone
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[17:13] <McBride36> PLCs suck
[17:13] <McBride36> i hate ladder logic
[17:13] <HoloPed> waveform, what is the smallest YUV image you can capture
[17:13] <HoloPed> ?
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[18:06] <waveform> HoloPed, smallest YUV image? Erm I'm not sure - that'll depend on the smallest resolution of the camera
[18:07] <HoloPed> 640 x 480
[18:07] <waveform> technically that'll be 32x16 as that's the block size the camera uses, but I don't think I've ever tested that low
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[18:08] <waveform> I've certainly done test captures down at 64x64 (for simple demo purposes)
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[18:31] <edjuh> 1
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[18:31] <ShorTie> 2
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[18:31] <edjuh> sri epaste
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[18:43] <Froolap> is there a cable for powering the pi from a powered usb hub or is that a bad plan?
[18:44] <ShorTie> as long as the power supply is big enough it should work fine
[18:45] <ShorTie> can't just use a micro-usb cable ??
[18:46] <Sonny_Jim> Odd
[18:46] <Sonny_Jim> Does anyone elses Pi show the time as half an hour ?
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[18:46] <Sonny_Jim> Mon Mar 16 17:15:24 GMT 2015
[18:46] <Froolap> doesn't seem to fit.... and didn't know if maybe data channels..... what if you want to run devices off of the hub?
[18:46] <Sonny_Jim> *half an hour slow
[18:47] <Froolap> your internet is laggy. lol
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[18:47] <ShorTie> data wire on the pi's micro-usb are not hooked up, it just gets power from it
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[18:48] <ShorTie> doesn't fit hub or pi ??
[18:49] <Froolap> pi
[18:50] <Froolap> and well when looking at instructions for connecting pi to a lapdock.... they were saying to cut the red wire on the usb connect.
[18:50] <ShorTie> sure it is not a mini-usb cable ??
[18:50] <ShorTie> don't know nuffin about cutting wires
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[18:51] <Froolap> is that why they call you shortie? :)
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[18:52] <ShorTie> yup, brian cell short
[18:52] <Froolap> I'm short a few of those myself
[18:53] <ShorTie> me just <idiot@dot.com>
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[20:00] <codinho> guys, if someone interested in hw enabled deinterlacing for gstreamer on raspberry here is my branch https://github.com/ismelykh/gst-omx-deinterlace
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[20:22] <divx118>
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[20:30] <Anonissimus> Hi, looking for a way to have a rpi+case+touchscreen, any suggestions?
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[20:31] <Froolap> look up lapdock
[20:31] <Anonissimus> Froolap: thanks
[20:31] <Anonissimus> Froolap: more rpi sized
[20:32] <Anonissimus> like the screen be 3-4 inches
[20:32] <Anonissimus> so it just covers the size of the print
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[20:32] <Anonissimus> Froolap: like http://www.adafruit.com/images/970x728/x1601-00.jpg.pagespeed.ic.YHz8haFjQD.webp but with a case
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[20:38] <Tachyon`> there exists already a pi case with screen
[20:38] <Tachyon`> but I think it's only 160x128 or 320x240
[20:38] <Tachyon`> and was for the old pi, not sure if there's a b+/b2 variant
[20:39] * Tachyon` thinks the new one should have been called he Raspberry Pi Master Series
[20:39] <Anonissimus> Tachyon`: interesting, that resolution will do for my purpose
[20:39] <Tachyon`> ah, let me see if I can find it again
[20:40] <Tachyon`> http://www.amazon.co.uk/PiTFT-Pibow-case-Raspberry-Pi/dp/B00J8PJSEM <- one, but for old pi...
[20:40] <Tachyon`> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tontec%C2%AE-Raspberry-Touchscreen-Transparent-Heatsinks/dp/B00LN9MYCO
[20:40] <Tachyon`> another
[20:40] <Tachyon`> ooh, tha's 480x320
[20:40] <Tachyon`> hadn't seen that one, using a 6x8 font you could get a proper 80 column console on there
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[20:41] <Tachyon`> not seen one for the new design pis though
[20:42] <Anonissimus> yeah using some of your search terms I did find them
[20:43] <Anonissimus> thanks
[20:43] <Anonissimus> now just wait for the p2 models
[20:43] <Anonissimus> I'll just get the pi2 and screen, and wait for the case
[20:43] <Tachyon`> it said in the comments for the second one that there is a b+ version available
[20:44] <Tachyon`> so it's just a case of fidning one
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[20:50] <StrawMachie> Hi
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[21:01] <sydney_untangle> Hello.
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[21:03] <Anonissimus> Tachyon`: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tontec%C2%AE-Raspberry-Touchscreen-Transparent-Heatsinks/dp/B00LN9MYCO
[21:04] <Anonissimus> that seems the b+ one
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[21:04] <Anonissimus> you say that the pi2 will fit in there?
[21:04] <Tachyon`> only two USB ports, that's regular B
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[21:06] <Anonissimus> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tontec%C2%AE-Raspberry-Touchscreen-Transparent-Heatsinks/dp/B00LN9MYCO
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[21:06] <Anonissimus> I see 4
[21:07] <Anonissimus> http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61NJxBrWRrL._SL1000_.jpg
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[21:12] <Ryccardo> is it bad to hold down the reset button for... a few hours?
[21:13] <atouk> your finger might get tired
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[21:13] <Ryccardo> rubber band :P (I used a bistable switch actually)
[21:14] <atouk> and one must ask, why?
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[21:15] <Ryccardo> because when the Pi is "off" this way it's making a lot of noise (like that from a switching power supply)
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[21:39] <x29a> Ryccardo: still: why
[21:40] <Ryccardo> easier (for the ports and my hand) than unplugging
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[21:51] <aberrant> what’s the name of the terminal in the rpi graphical interface?
[21:51] <aberrant> I have no mouse support and can’t get back to a console
[21:51] <aberrant> but I can “run” a command
[21:51] <HoloPed> how do I print colored text into terminal , from python ?
[21:52] <Ryccardo> aberrant: you want /bin/bash from what I understand
[21:53] <aberrant> no
[21:53] <aberrant> /bin/bash won’t work
[21:53] <aberrant> I gotta figure out how to disable the gui on boot. raspi-config isn’t doing it.
[21:53] <Ryccardo> ah, the terminal emulator?
[21:54] <aberrant> ah, lxterminal
[21:54] <Ryccardo> /usr/bin/lxterminal yup
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[21:55] <Ryccardo> try with `update-rc.d lightdm remove`
[21:56] <aberrant> ok, trying - thanks.
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[21:56] <aberrant> nope.
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[21:57] <Ryccardo> lightdm still starts on boot?
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[22:17] <teclo-> muriani: ah, so the HDMI output support other resolutions than FullHD ?
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[22:18] <Ryccardo> yup, and a truckload of them
[22:18] <snowcatma> , hello, is there a way to imulate rp pi2 @ 1g on a win7. i am trying to setup my rp matrix minecraft server. i have looked at qemu put it does not suport the memory i need to use. also vertualbox i have yet to learn how to fire up a arm invirnment w/a converted .img to .vdi.
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[22:27] <muriani> teclo-: you can specify output mode in the config.txt in the fat32 partition iirc
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[22:34] <teclo-> muriani: indeed... I had forgotten about that... thank you
[22:34] <Froolag> ????
[22:34] <Froolag> how?
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[22:39] <muriani> http://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/config-txt.md
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[22:40] <muriani> Listed modes are there as well
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[22:46] <snowcatma> going afk, please message me if you can give me any info thank you
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[23:11] <Sonny_Jim> Any ideas why my Pi clock is half an hour slow?
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[23:12] <ShorTie> got me, brian fart maybe, reset with date and try again maybe
[23:13] <Ryccardo> if that's exactly a half hour, some timezones have :30 offsets...
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[23:15] <Sonny_Jim> How do I check what timezone it's set to?
[23:15] <imbezol> date
[23:15] <Sonny_Jim> Mon Mar 16 21:44:42 GMT 2015
[23:15] <Sonny_Jim> Weird
[23:16] <Ryccardo> ls -l /etc/localtime
[23:17] <Sonny_Jim> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3661 Feb 16 19:27 /etc/localtime
[23:17] <Sonny_Jim> Pretty sure that should be a symlink :\
[23:17] <Ryccardo> hm, it's not linked to anythig=
[23:18] <Ryccardo> go to `dpkg-reconfigure tzdata` then
[23:18] <imbezol> sudo raspi-config
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[23:19] <Sonny_Jim> Did both, still the same
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[23:19] <Ryccardo> "universal time is" is wrong?
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[23:19] <Sonny_Jim> Tried restarting ntp as well, till the same
[23:20] <Sonny_Jim> Universal Time is now: Mon Mar 16 21:48:11 UTC 2015.
[23:20] <imbezol> my /etc/localtime is not a symlink
[23:20] <aberrant> problem here
[23:20] <imbezol> Mon Mar 16 16:20:22 MDT 2015
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[23:20] <aberrant> I updated to jessie and now I get the damn gui even after raspi-config boot to desktop/console. Any ideas?
[23:20] <Sonny_Jim> Ah hang on
[23:21] <Sonny_Jim> I remember that a while ago I manually edited /etc/ntp.conf after one of the timeservers went loopy
[23:21] <aberrant> where is lightdm launched?
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[23:22] <Sonny_Jim> server pool.ntp.org iburst was showing the time as half an hour slow for some reason?
[23:22] <Sonny_Jim> Switching to server 0.debian.pool.ntp.org iburst
[23:22] <Sonny_Jim> Fixed it
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[23:23] <imbezol> apparently the raspi-config script just runs dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[23:23] <Ryccardo> yup, so it looks
[23:24] <imbezol> do_change_timezone() { dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
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[23:24] <imbezol> }
[23:24] <imbezol> er..
[23:25] <imbezol> didn't mean to paste that but..
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[23:26] <ShorTie> timezone is in /etc/timezone
[23:26] <ShorTie> set it there, then run dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[23:26] <Sonny_Jim> Yeah it's fixed, fome some reason pool.ntp.org decided that it was going to give me the time slow by half an hour
[23:27] <Sonny_Jim> timezone was all set correctly, just that ntpd was looking at a broken ntp server
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[23:59] <Ryccardo> clock works fine :3
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