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IRC Log for 2015-03-19

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[0:00] <Warbird> Perfboard == breadboard?
[0:00] <McBride36> sure you can use a breadboard
[0:00] <ozzzy> kind of... not the same... needs soldering
[0:00] <McBride36> but perfboard would be more of a permanant solution
[0:00] <ozzzy> but you can use a small breadboard
[0:00] <Warbird> Ok. I'm pretty sure I have one of those somewhere.
[0:00] <ozzzy> don't need anything big
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[0:00] <McBride36> what's the weather thing you're using?
[0:00] <ozzzy> you might want a 10K resistor too
[0:00] <Warbird> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008HODWBU/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1J0AE63I77MT2
[0:01] <McBride36> oh neat, was lookin' at those this mornin'
[0:01] <Warbird> http://www.adafruit.com/products/381 same thing, different link.
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[0:01] <McBride36> yeah, he'd probably need resistors
[0:01] <ozzzy> http://ozzzy.dyndns.org:8080/images/pi_temp_sensor.jpg
[0:01] <meLon> Anybody know of a decent benchmarking suite for the pi? Not looking for anything crazy, just want to force it to do lots of ops for a bit.
[0:01] <Warbird> Ok, so I get the motor linked on eBay. I have a breadboard and I actually may have some resistors left over from my stint in EE.
[0:01] <ozzzy> for the sensor you'll need a 4K7
[0:02] <ozzzy> for the L293D perhaps a 10K
[0:02] <Warbird> What.
[0:02] <McBride36> resistor values
[0:02] <Warbird> Are those resistors?
[0:02] <Warbird> Ok ok
[0:02] <ozzzy> yep
[0:02] <ozzzy> the 4K7 is for the temp sensor... it pulls up the data line to 3.3v
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[0:03] <ozzzy> the 10K is to hook between the enable pin on the L293D and the Pi
[0:04] <OffensiveUser> ozzzy, the sensor was already assembled
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[0:04] <OffensiveUser> has the resistor
[0:04] <ozzzy> k
[0:04] <Warbird> l293D?
[0:04] <ozzzy> mine didn't
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[0:04] <OffensiveUser> wanted a waterproof set up
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[0:05] <Warbird> L293D being the eBay motor?
[0:05] <McBride36> no
[0:05] <McBride36> the motor is the motor
[0:05] <McBride36> however, the l293d is a chip that will allow you to drive the motor
[0:05] <ozzzy> I bought one of those 'waterproof DS18B20' sensors on a 1m wire.... needed a pullup
[0:05] <Warbird> I need a chip now?
[0:05] <ozzzy> they're about a buck
[0:06] <McBride36> yeah
[0:06] <ozzzy> you don't connect motors directly to Pi pins
[0:06] <McBride36> if you want to control direction, yes you will
[0:06] <McBride36> and that too
[0:06] <Warbird> I was about to ask about that.
[0:06] <Warbird> Yes, I'd like to.
[0:06] <McBride36> yeah so you'll need the chip
[0:06] <McBride36> LUCKILY
[0:06] <Warbird> So no resistor for the motor?
[0:06] <ozzzy> war
[0:06] <ozzzy> Warbird, nope
[0:07] <McBride36> https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-arduino-lesson-15-dc-motor-reversing/lm293d
[0:07] <McBride36> oh arduino
[0:07] <ozzzy> theory is the same
[0:07] <McBride36> yeah
[0:07] <McBride36> they have one for the pi
[0:07] <McBride36> but it's PWM as well
[0:07] <ozzzy> connect the inputs to pins...pull enable high... connect voltage and motor
[0:07] <Warbird> I have about a billion chrome tabs open right now.
[0:07] <meLon> shiftplusone: !!!!!
[0:07] <McBride36> sounds about right
[0:08] <meLon> I plugged in a monitor and it's very clear now.... archlinux drops the network... it's not actually completely freezing
[0:08] * ozzzy has built LOTS of telescope focusers using that scheme
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[0:10] <shiftplusone> meLon, sure, I said that. Have you figured out why?
[0:11] <meLon> No, you said it was voltage (but I was telling you the entire thing froze, vs networking just getting borked), but, yeah
[0:11] <shiftplusone> <shiftplusone> meLon, this is just a hypothesis, but here's what's actually happening... your powers supply and/or cable is bad and resulting in your pi not getting 5v. When the load increases, your connection is dropping out and your pi may even be hanging.
[0:11] <shiftplusone> ^I said "may even be" because I thought it was less likely than just dropping the connection.
[0:11] <meLon> kk
[0:11] <meLon> I'm looking into it :D
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[0:13] <Warbird> Ok, power sources for the motor.
[0:13] <Warbird> I suppose I can't just plug it into the wall or whatever?
[0:13] <McBride36> you need a wall wart
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[0:14] <Warbird> Right, but what kind?
[0:14] <McBride36> what are the power reqs on the motor?
[0:15] <Warbird> I have no idea anymore. Give me a sec.
[0:15] <ozzzy> the motor I linked is 6v
[0:15] <Warbird> "
[0:15] <Warbird> New DC 6V/6 V 20 RPM High Torque Gear Motor-New-M25" 6 volts I assume.
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[0:16] <Warbird> ozzzy, and suggesting on how to mount that? I suppose gluing it might work.
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[0:16] <ozzzy> Warbird, plastic and a dremel tool.... aluminum...
[0:17] <ozzzy> the gearbox has mounting screw holes tapped in
[0:17] <ozzzy> you'll need work out pulleys
[0:17] <OffensiveUser> will the pi2 make a good media server
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[0:18] <Warbird> The plan was to have the pi and assorted bits on the inside of a small box that's on a bookshelf near my window. A display monitor would be put on top to display current/future conditions. Speakers somewhere nearby for the pianobar playing stuff.
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[0:18] <SindaFi> More than capable OffensiveUser
[0:18] <Warbird> ozzzy, there are pulleys now?
[0:19] <Warbird> Just ordered mine to be used as a mediaserver/retropie as well as a CUPS server.
[0:20] <ozzzy> Warbird, you have to have some way of pulling on the ropes LOL
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[0:20] <Warbird> I was thinking a spool, nothing more or less.
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[0:20] <ozzzy> yep... that's just a pulley
[0:21] <Warbird> I'm to go outside and yell for a bit.
[0:21] <Warbird> *going to
[0:21] <ozzzy> ok
[0:21] <ozzzy> don't bother the neighbours
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[0:22] <Warbird> I wouldn't worry. They went off to investigate curtain openers last month and no one's seen them since.
[0:23] <Warbird> Anyway, I need a 6 volt power source for the motor thing. Is there a certain plug or whatever that I need to get?
[0:24] <methuzla> http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lj03r2ek3s1qaodtzo1_500.gif
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[0:27] <ozzzy> Warbird, nope... just 6v
[0:27] <ozzzy> 5v... 9v
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[0:27] <ozzzy> [shrug]
[0:27] <Warbird> Which one?
[0:28] <ozzzy> whatever you have lying around
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[0:29] <Warbird> I mean how do I physically connect the motor to the power? What kind of plug does it use? Does it even use a plug?
[0:29] <ozzzy> any you like
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[0:30] <Warbird> ....
[0:30] <ozzzy> if you look at the datasheet for the chip you'll see that one pin is for motor voltage and 4 pins are for ground
[0:30] <Warbird> I haven't even gotten that far. I'm just trying to get a parts list going.
[0:31] <ozzzy> well... you can wire things up directly... or use an RCA plug (simple) or a dc power plug (still simple)
[0:31] <Warbird> Can you link me to something that's easy to implement into this upcoming nightmare of circuitry?
[0:31] <Warbird> http://www.amazon.com/6V-Adapter-Power-5-5-2-1mm/dp/B009SNJ0NS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1426721512&sr=8-1&keywords=6+volt+dc+power+supply
[0:32] <Warbird> Can I use that>
[0:32] <Warbird> ?
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[0:32] <McBride36> Warbird, https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-raspberry-pi-lesson-9-controlling-a-dc-motor/lm293d
[0:32] <ozzzy> https://www.npmjs.com/package/pi-motor
[0:32] <McBride36> well use his link if you want to program in js
[0:33] <Warbird> I have less of an understanding of what is going on than before I started.
[0:33] <ozzzy> you can program in BASH... [shrug]
[0:33] <McBride36> okay Warbird you're thinking too large right now
[0:33] <McBride36> start with just one component of your project
[0:34] <McBride36> say, temperature
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[0:34] <McBride36> figure out how to get a temperature
[0:34] <Warbird> Ok
[0:34] <McBride36> without worrying about anything else
[0:34] <McBride36> just break it down into small components
[0:34] <Warbird> Sounds like a plan.
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[0:34] <McBride36> once you understand how to do it all, try putting it all together
[0:34] <Warbird> For the sake of argument and my sanity, just see if this is right.
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[0:35] <Warbird> Motor: DC 6V/6 V 20 RPM on eBay
[0:35] <Warbird> Resistor for motor:
[0:35] <Warbird> Don't need one.
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[0:35] <Warbird> Chip thing for motor control:
[0:35] <Warbird> L293D
[0:35] <McBride36> are you using the motor ozzy linked?
[0:35] <Warbird> Resistor for chip thing:
[0:35] <Warbird> 10K
[0:35] <Warbird> Yes
[0:35] <Warbird> I think.
[0:35] <Warbird> Power source for motor:
[0:35] <Warbird> ?
[0:35] <Warbird> Temp sensor:
[0:35] <Warbird> DS18B20
[0:35] <Warbird> Resistor for sensor:
[0:35] <Warbird> 4K7
[0:36] <Warbird> That's what I have right now.
[0:36] <ozzzy> Warbird, the way that the L293D works is that the 'enable' pin has to be HIGH for the motor to turn.... some folk just tie that pin directly to 5V... I prefer to buffer it with a 10K resistor
[0:36] <ozzzy> that's all
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[0:37] <ozzzy> the sensor hooks up to GND, +5(3.3) and data (a pin)
[0:37] <McBride36> ozzzy, do you know how many amps that motor requires?
[0:37] <McBride36> i don't see it written but i could jsut be being a dink
[0:37] <ozzzy> the 4K7 goes between +5(3.3) and data to pull the data pin high
[0:38] <Warbird> I'm just going to order all that nonsense and just worry about the temp stuff.
[0:38] <ozzzy> McBride36, the ones I use in that family generally draw about 200mA...
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[0:41] <McBride36> fair enough, just wanted to make sure
[0:41] <ozzzy> here's a lower current motor http://goo.gl/kA0w2x
[0:41] <ozzzy> I've used them too
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[0:51] <atomi> how long before we have a gigabit usb 3 raspberry pi?
[0:52] <Triffid_Hunter> atomi: depends how long it takes them to ditch the broadcom soc I suppose
[0:53] <atomi> yeah I wish
[0:54] <Triffid_Hunter> atomi: if that's what you're after, time to start looking at other similar boards like odroid, cubieboard, etc
[0:54] <atomi> no I know. I want it but I don't need it
[0:55] <Triffid_Hunter> atomi: I'm still waiting for something with native SATA, gigabit ethernet, well supported graphics incl hardware video and mainline kernel support
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[0:57] <atomi> I just use the rPi as a docker host for irssi samba and minidlna
[0:58] <atomi> i've been playing with resin/rpi-node as well and I might use it to stream pushbullet websocket stream
[0:58] <atomi> errr log pushbullet websocket stream
[0:59] <atomi> with raspbian i was getting memory leaks but I switched to arch linux and docker containers and everything has been so solid and svelte
[0:59] <atomi> i love it
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[1:17] <ttys0> hadn't thought of running docker containers ... might give it a whirl. Agreed on arch being great.
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[1:21] <OffensiveUser> Triffid_Hunter, how about a banana pi
[1:21] <atomi> ttys0 here are some I'm usingg https://github.com/atomi/dockerfiles/tree/master/raspberrypi
[1:22] <ttys0> atomi : very cool, I'll give it a try. Thanks!
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[1:23] <Triffid_Hunter> OffensiveUser: hm, not bad
[1:23] <atomi> by the way if you use irssi this is pretty sweet https://github.com/jaxbot/irssi-pushbullet-notifications/
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[1:24] <Tenkawa> greetings all
[1:25] <OffensiveUser> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Banana_Pi#Benchmarks
[1:25] <OffensiveUser> hmm
[1:25] <Tenkawa> OffensiveUser: whats up?
[1:26] <McBride36> sup Tenkawa
[1:26] <Tenkawa> something wrong with the benchmarks?
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[1:26] <OffensiveUser> oh Triffid_Hunter said they were looking for something that sounded like a banana pi
[1:26] <Tenkawa> hey.. not much.. just trying to see if theres any IoT updates yet
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[1:27] <Tenkawa> I'd really like to see some code to test
[1:27] <Triffid_Hunter> OffensiveUser: http://linux-sunxi.org/XBMC :(
[1:27] <McBride36> well if all you're looking for is code to test, i am sure i could find some, might not be IoT related
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[1:28] <Tenkawa> McBride36: I want the win10 preview :)
[1:28] <McBride36> for the pi2?
[1:28] <Tenkawa> yeah
[1:28] <OffensiveUser> Triffid_Hunter, ah thats rough
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[1:33] <OffensiveUser> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xPzOM29v5w#t=18
[1:33] <OffensiveUser> it play the tekken 6!
[1:33] <OffensiveUser> lmao
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[1:41] <Tenkawa> dmesg
[1:41] <Tenkawa> oops sorry
[1:42] <OffensiveUser> til
[1:43] <OffensiveUser> there's a orange pi too
[1:43] <OffensiveUser> of course it has an a20 too
[1:43] <Tenkawa> heheh
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[1:49] <OffensiveUser> Triffid_Hunter, http://shop.udoo.org/usa/product/udoo-quad.html?___from_store=usa&popup=no mebbe this
[1:49] <OffensiveUser> it does all of the things
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[1:50] <Triffid_Hunter> OffensiveUser: oh nice, I saw a promo vid for those a while ago but they weren't available yet
[1:51] <McBride36> anyone heard of the micropython?
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[1:52] <OffensiveUser> no whuts that
[1:53] <shiftplusone> going to guess it's a python implementation that runs on microcontrollers
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[1:54] <OffensiveUser> o it has it's own board too
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[1:55] <devinmcelheran> Does anyone know of a quality screen that's simple to connect, apart from hdmi, for the pi?
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[1:55] <devinmcelheran> Preferably in the 5"-6" size,
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[1:56] <OffensiveUser> well
[1:56] <OffensiveUser> there's back up camera screens that size
[1:56] <devinmcelheran> It's going to be used as dynamic signage for a retail store.
[1:56] <McBride36> OffensiveUser, http://micropython.org/
[2:00] <OffensiveUser> http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-Inch-480-x-272-HD-Digital-Color-TFT-LCD-Display-Sunshade-Car-Rear-View-Monitor-/141606349805?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20f8656bed
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[2:01] <devinmcelheran> Sorry, I'm looking for someting without a stand.
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[2:09] <MustBeLucky> anyone know how to conect BT speaker to OSMC on Pi2 with medialink BT adapter?
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[2:14] <Peleus> Hey all - wondering if there is a popular camera for the pi (2) which could connect to the CSI interface. Ideally good quality, sound, IR
[2:14] <shiftplusone> Peleus, only the official camera is supported. Knock-offs which use the same sensor also work.
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[2:15] <shiftplusone> you have the regular and Noir flavours of it.
[2:15] <shiftplusone> no sound though
[2:15] <Peleus> Cheers for that. I'm assuming same camera for Pi v Pi2?
[2:15] <OffensiveUser> MustBeLucky, Go to Programs -> OSCM Settings -> Network -> Bluetooth
[2:15] <Peleus> https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11868 yeah?
[2:15] <OffensiveUser> enable service
[2:16] <shiftplusone> Peleus, yeah, same camera for both pis.
[2:16] <OffensiveUser> enable adapter > start discovery and do whatever the bt speaker needs to do for pairing
[2:16] <OffensiveUser> then refresh
[2:16] <OffensiveUser> should be there
[2:16] <Peleus> shiftplusone: thanks for your help mate, much appreciated
[2:17] <shiftplusone> no worries
[2:17] <Peleus> I'll just see if I can hunt down a decent mic seperately
[2:17] <methuzla> Peleus yes, but also in IR flavor: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/12654
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[2:17] <Peleus> Ahh champion methuzla
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[3:52] <lickalott> shiftplusone, can you help me out with this edimax? I've tried with Openelec (kodi) and it recognized it right away, but it seems to hang when indexing NFS shares. So i threw on raspbmc and I "think" i've installed the drivers the right way, but i cant get it to scan wireless networks. I'm not opposed to another distro as long as i can stream music/movies from it.
[3:53] <lickalott> Ullarah, you around?
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[3:58] <Triffid_Hunter> lickalott: NFS has never worked properly for me in my life, try sshfs
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[4:07] <Ullarah> lickalott?
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[4:15] <lickalott> hey Ullarah
[4:16] <lickalott> sorry putting the rugrats to bed.
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[4:16] <lickalott> did you read my post above where I asked if you were around?
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[4:16] <McBride36> sshfs is awesome
[4:17] <aberrant> sshfs is ok. Be careful with it :)
[4:17] <aberrant> it’s great for read-only stuff
[4:17] <lickalott> Triffid_Hunter, McBride36: I'm pulling from a windows box for this particular situation
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[4:18] <aberrant> lickalott: webdav or smb?
[4:18] <McBride36> even better
[4:18] <McBride36> https://code.google.com/p/win-sshfs/
[4:18] <McBride36> for windows
[4:18] <lickalott> nfs
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[4:18] <lickalott> aberrant, nfs
[4:19] <Triffid_Hunter> lickalott: cifs works better than nfs
[4:19] <aberrant> lickalott: no - I’m suggesting two alternatives to nfs
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[4:19] <lickalott> i have hanewin running on that box
[4:19] <lickalott> ohh
[4:19] <lickalott> not a fan of samba. seems to bog down on 1080p movies.
[4:20] <aberrant> hm.
[4:20] <lickalott> at this point, none of that matters cause I can't get this effin wireless module to work....lol
[4:20] <aberrant> you’re gonna stream 1080p across wifi??
[4:20] <McBride36> lol
[4:20] <lickalott> i read somewhere that the pi likes nfs better so I've always gone with that.
[4:20] <lickalott> i've done it.
[4:20] <aberrant> christ.
[4:21] <lickalott> brb....world is ending. there's a boo-boo that needs a band-aid.
[4:21] <aberrant> haha
[4:21] <aberrant> how old are your kids?
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[4:22] <kisak> old enough to stay out of this one
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[4:24] <lickalott> 4, 5, and 9
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[4:25] <lickalott> so anyway, not aberrant I don't plan on streaming 1080p with this setup it's too far away from the AP. I've just always used NFS because I've had the best luck with it.
[4:25] <aberrant> ah.
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[4:25] <aberrant> mine’s 10 and refusing to go to bed right now.
[4:25] <aberrant> so we’re listening to dylan
[4:25] <atomi> can I get a ping?
[4:25] <McBride36> atomi, sup?
[4:25] <atomi> ty
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[4:25] <aberrant> atomi: 0.75
[4:26] <atomi> heh i'm doing some websocket stuff :) thanks
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[4:26] <McSleep> night folks
[4:26] <aberrant> heh. ‘night
[4:26] <lickalott> it will mainly be streaming music. and the reason I swapped from Openelec to raspbmc was because when it tried to build the media library for music it hung (4 times). That was the bad part. the good part was the edimax was plug and play on that. i'm assuming it isn't because of Kodi because raspbmc is kodi as well.
[4:27] <aberrant> ah. I stream music from itunes match, and movies from my mini :)
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[4:27] <aberrant> but no tv so it goes to ipad or mac
[4:27] <lickalott> aberrant, my oldest does that. I've just succumbed to letting him read books until he falls asleep.
[4:28] <aberrant> lickalott: yeah. She’s learning that actions have consequences. The lights come on full blast at 0630
[4:28] <lickalott> what other distros for pi have a media center feel to them?
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[4:28] <aberrant> always used raspbian, no media center. sorry.
[4:28] <lickalott> LOL. I go upstairs and turn on Killswitch full blast
[4:28] <aberrant> haha
[4:28] * lickalott ^5's aberrant
[4:29] <aberrant> then if she doesn’t get up I start tickling
[4:29] <aberrant> that usually does it.
[4:29] <aberrant> start with the toes
[4:29] <lickalott> i lick his cheek with my unbrushed teeth breath
[4:29] <aberrant> ew. :)
[4:30] <lickalott> "learning that actions have consequences"
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[4:30] <lickalott> :P
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[4:31] <lickalott> i'm gonna try xbian and see what that does for me.
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[5:06] <zeeshan> hi all, are heatsinks mandatory for the rp 2?
[5:06] <CoJaBo> ..lolno
[5:06] <zeeshan> whats with all these kits with them
[5:06] <ShorTie> if they were, would not the foundation put them on ??
[5:07] <CoJaBo> zeeshan: If enough people sell an item, people start to think that item is necessary.
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[5:07] <ShorTie> to make money off of guliable people
[5:07] <CoJaBo> ^
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[5:08] <zeeshan> cant hurt i guess for 50 cents
[5:08] <zeeshan> :P
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[5:08] <CoJaBo> zeeshan: You could start selling flux capacitors for the Pi too; if you can get them in enough kits, they'll sell like hotcakes, and people will be convinced of their necessity.
[5:09] <zeeshan> http://www.tooms.dk/tblog/foto/rpiblog1test2ir1.jpg
[5:09] <zeeshan> interesting
[5:09] <CoJaBo> zeeshan: The SoC used on the pi is meant to operate in what is pretty much a sealed tiny enclosure (phones)
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[5:09] <zeeshan> yea but most phones use a metal case
[5:09] <zeeshan> which acts like a heatsink
[5:10] <zeeshan> i know the iphone does
[5:10] <zeeshan> not sure about other andriod phones
[5:10] <CoJaBo> ..heh, and that pic even shows, the SoC is the coolest component xD
[5:10] <zeeshan> well the heatsinks
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[5:11] <zeeshan> are meant for the lan chip also
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[5:12] * zeeshan should just read the datasheets for the chips
[5:14] <atouk> i wonder how that compares the the pi2
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[6:04] <dorkmafia> i'm getting kernel panics when I start my pi up.. complains about the usb ports and about ethernet ports
[6:04] <dorkmafia> is there a way to pull the logs off the sd card?
[6:13] <dorkmafia> unable to mount root fs on unknown block 179,6
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[6:29] <CoJaBo> dorkmafia: Usual cause is the SD card being corrupt..
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[7:58] <dorkmafia> so reformat the sd card then
[7:58] <dorkmafia> :(
[7:58] <dorkmafia> oh well
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[9:03] <heller\> anyone familiar with am2301 temp&humidity sensor?
[9:03] <heller\> does it work just like am2302 ?
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[10:18] <pingo> Any ideas on how I could turn r.pi into a sound recorder with delayed playback?
[10:19] <pingo> It would listen for souns all the time and play them back automatically when they stop
[10:19] <ShorTie> usb sound card ??
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[10:20] <pingo> Yes but what software
[10:21] <pingo> Or library to program it
[10:24] <ShorTie> https://www.google.com/search?q=linux+detect+sound+and+record&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
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[11:08] <mattwj2002> hi all :)
[11:08] <qubitnerd> hi mattwj2002
[11:09] <mattwj2002> hey qubitnerd
[11:09] <qubitnerd> ssup
[11:09] <Gathis> good morning :)
[11:09] <mattwj2002> not too much....I figured I would hang out here for a bit before work :)
[11:09] <mattwj2002> good morning Gathis!
[11:10] <mattwj2002> qubitnerd: I got the new Pi 2!
[11:10] <mattwj2002> *dances an Irish Jig*
[11:11] <qubitnerd> he he .. nice ..
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[11:15] <mattwj2002> qubitnerd: the additional processing power, extra memory, extra usb (I had a Pi 1 B not B++ before) and even Microsd versus SD are all nice improvements :D
[11:15] <mattwj2002> here is a question though.....
[11:16] <mattwj2002> why are some images Pi 1 only, some Pi 2 only and some both?
[11:16] <ShorTie> rpi and rpi2 use different kernels
[11:16] <qubitnerd> kernels
[11:16] <mattwj2002> ahhh!
[11:17] <ShorTie> if your running raspbian look in /boot, you will see 2 of them there
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[11:17] <mattwj2002> :|
[11:17] <mattwj2002> two kernels? :O
[11:17] <ShorTie> kernel and kernel7
[11:17] <qubitnerd> i think userspace apps will work on both ... although userpsace apps will benefit from a recompile for the pi2
[11:17] <mattwj2002> neato
[11:18] <mattwj2002> yeah I am going to redo my little server
[11:18] <mattwj2002> :)
[11:18] <mattwj2002> probably not until the weekend.....
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[11:18] <mattwj2002> I might not even get to it this weekend....I have a date yo!
[11:18] <mattwj2002> :
[11:18] <mattwj2002> :)
[11:19] <ShorTie> most old rpi images can work in the rpi2 after a update/upgrade/dist-upgrade on it in a rpi
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[11:20] <mattwj2002> nice
[11:21] <ShorTie> all just might be going to far, that is why i say most
[11:21] <mattwj2002> ShorTie: nice
[11:22] <mattwj2002> dual kernels?
[11:22] <mattwj2002> how does that work?
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[11:22] <mattwj2002> how does it know which one to boot? :)
[11:22] <mattwj2002> is that in an init file or something?
[11:23] <ShorTie> i'd guess some where in bootbin it does a cat of the processure to know what processor it is running on the proceeds from there
[11:24] <mattwj2002> cool cool
[11:24] <ShorTie> shiftplusone would know the real nitty gritties of it i believe
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[11:24] <mattwj2002> oh it is all good!
[11:24] <mattwj2002> just curious....doesn't really matter just curious!
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[11:25] <ShorTie> using the no-kernel bootloader you must specify the rpi version so it can install the correct kernel
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[11:25] <ShorTie> thus making it un-universal
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[11:26] <mattwj2002> got ya!
[11:26] <mattwj2002> wow I am way over using "!" today :P
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[13:32] <Peetz0r> Hey! I've been taking pictures at night with almost no light
[13:32] <giddles> hrhr and you dont see anything?
[13:32] <giddles> :D
[13:33] <Peetz0r> so I used stacking (imagemagick's "-evaluate-sequence add" to stack a nunber of images
[13:33] <Peetz0r> and it works, kinda
[13:33] <Peetz0r> the result: http://imgur.com/a/N5XQB
[13:34] <Peetz0r> my issue, the amount of light varies. How do I make my final pictures look mor equal?
[13:35] <cehteh> make a HDR with much dynamic range from it when adding and later normalize it
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[13:35] <cehteh> dunno if imagemagic supports that
[13:36] <Peetz0r> how would I do that?
[13:36] <Peetz0r> Could I normalise the pictures that I already have?
[13:36] <cehteh> does imagemagic also support sensor calibration, taking a completely black picture and white pictures and generate a profile over the sensor/noise?
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[13:36] <cehteh> i am just speaking theroretically .. you have to RTFM the imagemagic's docs
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[13:37] <cehteh> while adding you want some image format with high dynamic range, floats oder 16bit+ per channel
[13:37] <antoon> "read the fucking manual the imagemagic's docs"? :D
[13:37] <Peetz0r> lol :p
[13:37] <cehteh> then no (much) information gets lost and you can later compress the range without losses
[13:38] <Peetz0r> I have never worked with anything other than 8 bits/channel :p
[13:38] <Peetz0r> SO I wouldn't know where to start
[13:38] <cehteh> for this you definately need much more bits
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[15:02] <Jaeger2k> I got the bcm2838 on my raspi, but for spi the driver spi-bcm2702 is loaded, is this driver compatible to bcm2838?
[15:03] <Anorion> does the card work?
[15:03] <Jaeger2k> which card?
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[15:04] <Anorion> sounds like you're trying to use a wireless card
[15:04] <Anorion> of some sort
[15:04] <Jaeger2k> nope
[15:04] <Jaeger2k> bcm2838 is the SoC for the gpios
[15:04] <Anorion> gotcha
[15:05] <giddles> hrm windowsondevice did not help me
[15:05] <giddles> is silverlight included or compatible to win 10?
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[15:05] <muriani> giddles: are you talking abotu the win10 for pi2?
[15:05] <Jaeger2k> and you can configure some gpios to use with the spi
[15:05] <giddles> i want to make a surprise for my wife that she could watch amazon instant prime on a raspberry pi
[15:05] <muriani> Not happening
[15:05] <giddles> right muriani
[15:05] <muriani> it's a very stripped win10
[15:06] <muriani> no desktop, etc
[15:06] <muriani> meant for Internet of Things-style development
[15:06] <giddles> hmk
[15:06] <giddles> so no silverlight?
[15:06] <muriani> not likely.
[15:06] <giddles> i registered there with my full name :D
[15:06] <giddles> wtf
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[15:07] <giddles> i dont wanna change amazon to flash to watch it with x....
[15:07] <giddles> my wifes not a nerd..
[15:08] <muriani> a Fire TV/FireTV Stick may be the proper solution then
[15:08] <muriani> or Roku
[15:08] <giddles> no its instant amazon prime in europe
[15:08] <giddles> no fire tv
[15:08] <giddles> were lacking 10 years behind you americanos ;)
[15:09] <muriani> oh, they didn't release a firetv device there?
[15:09] <giddles> never heard of
[15:09] <muriani> it's amazon's own hardware
[15:09] <muriani> well roku might be your best bet then
[15:09] <giddles> no option ;)
[15:11] <giddles> 99 eur, i payed 79 euro for my rpi not arrived yet bundle
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[15:24] <Bilby> Hah. my work partner just found out the RasPi has an asterisk build and now is all excited about us getting into VOIP services
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[15:34] <pvl1> hey everyone. For the lifein me i cant figure out what is starting X
[15:35] <pvl1> more specifically, this tft screen requires that you use the manuf's custom version of raspian, and i want to change some of the behaviour
[15:35] <pvl1> but i cant figure out what is starting xserver and lxde
[15:37] <muriani> can you run raspi-config?
[15:37] <pvl1> XD
[15:38] <pvl1> but it only lets me either login to desktop, scratch, or niether
[15:38] <muriani> well neither should put you at a regular text prompt
[15:39] <muriani> which is the same as disabling the X autologin
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[15:39] <pvl1> but it says that it would still require login
[15:39] <TheLostAdmin> I would assume it's either the xinit script (called by something in the system startup process, at which point raspi-config is your friend). OR the startx command which is supposed to be done by hand but some people call it instead of xinit because they don't know what they are doing.
[15:39] <muriani> well yes
[15:39] <pvl1> i mean, so i want it to start x automatically, but not neccesarily lxde
[15:39] <muriani> oh
[15:39] <muriani> you want to change the session
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[15:40] <pvl1> yeah, so consolekit, confusing. but there is no .xinitrc or any commands in any config files that i checked that start x
[15:40] <pvl1> based on htop and other info i found, consolekit is starting a session with ck-session launcher
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[15:45] <pvl1> FOUND IT
[15:45] <pvl1> /etc/rc.local
[15:45] <pvl1> and it is calling startx
[15:47] <muriani> lol they actually put it in rc.local?
[15:47] <muriani> I haven't looked at it too hard honestly
[15:48] <pvl1> well this manufacturer...
[15:48] <pvl1> but now im again confused... how is it loading lxde without an .xinitrc
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[15:51] <shiftplusone> pvl1, starting the default session. .xinitrc is an override.
[15:52] <shiftplusone> but seriously, that doesn't belong in rc.local
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[15:52] <pvl1> shiftplusone: well how do i change the default session? is it a consolekit thing
[15:53] <pvl1> and also why is it bad to put it in rc.local
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[15:55] <methuzla> pvl1 try looking in /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[15:55] <TheLostAdmin> rc.local is traditionally where the system owner/admin would put custom stuff that isn't part of the base system/config options. It's not a big deal but some people would expect they could drop in their own rc.local and not have anything set by the config tool get undone.
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[15:56] <pvl1> methuzla: welp, its def there. thank you
[15:56] <pvl1> TheLostAdmin: i see what your saying, its just not a "safe" way of doing it
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[16:08] <aberrant> pvl1: I had the same problem
[16:09] <aberrant> pvl1: if you remove /etc/X11/default-display-manager you won’t boot into X.
[16:09] <aberrant> pvl1: this seems to be an issue with systems running systemd.
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[16:10] <pvl1> well i dont think i will remove it. just change it. i dont need a desktop session on the main display. we can have a vnc or something in the background should we decide
[16:10] <aberrant> I moved it to /etc/X11/default-display-manager.orig :)
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[16:19] <Sonny_Jim> x11vnc ftw
[16:20] <Sonny_Jim> Sets up a dedicated x11 session for vnc, rather than attaching to an already running one
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[16:20] <muriani> x11vnc attaches to the existing one
[16:20] <muriani> vncserver normally starts a dedicated one
[16:21] <muriani> or tightvncserver, etc
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[16:27] <Hix> quick watchdog question
[16:28] <Hix> at boot [ 6.832024] bcm2708 watchdog, heartbeat=10 sec (nowayout=0)
[16:28] <Hix> appears and it seems to hang for quite a while here
[16:28] <Hix> can you reduce the 10 sec value or is it not a smart move?
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[16:38] <Hix> suppose it's not really important for something that will be on most of the time, it just makes reboots for changes and checking realllly slow
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[16:46] <pvl1> im like scared to run updates on this pi. the manufacturer made this system so weird
[16:46] <pvl1> why not just make a kernel module from the start
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[16:48] <OffensiveUser> Hix, http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=110042
[16:48] <OffensiveUser> maybe this'll help you
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[16:57] <Hix> I'm offended OffensiveUser :D
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[17:03] <McBride36> well now i want nachos
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[17:09] <OffensiveUser> well ok then
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[17:26] <bobvann> hi. i would like to know, is it possible to be recognised as official raspberry pi community for a state. e.g. official italian community
[17:26] <bobvann> ?
[17:27] <shiftplusone> I haven't seen anything being an 'official community' (and that's probably a good thing).
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[17:32] <bobvann> ok thank you :)
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[18:12] <Hix> how often does the firmware get updated? Wondering about the annotate V2/V3 thing as the flickering is getting on my nerves :)
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[18:42] <aberrant> Hix: It seems to be every week or so
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[18:43] <Hix> ah, cool cheers aberrant
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[18:43] <aberrant> sometimes more often, sometimes less
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[18:51] <qpop> Hi all
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[19:39] <qpop> Does anybody know where I can buy those nice Amazon Fire TV / Apple TV esque remotes for RasPi?
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[19:45] <muriani> hm
[19:45] <muriani> amazon fireTV remotes are bluetooth
[19:45] <muriani> I wonder if you can just pair one
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[19:53] <andypugh> I am having trouble building modules for the Pi2 kernel. Any suggestions? I _think_ that the lack of newly-compiled modules is the reason that the Pi boots without USB or network?
[19:54] <andypugh> The specific problem is that “make modules” fails, even with the default config and a fresh pull of the 3.18.9 git branch.
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[20:00] <shiftplusone> andypugh, you'll need to provide some output
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[20:01] <antoon> has anyone else had the problem with a 8GB noobs sdcard appearing as 1.4gb at windows?
[20:01] <McBride36> not a problem
[20:01] <McBride36> windows can't see the format
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[20:03] <andypugh> shiftplusone: Well, basically it boils down to “scripts/Makefile.build:263: recipe for target 'net/ipv4/netfilter/ipt_ECN.o' failed”
[20:03] <antoon> tried formatting it/cleaning partitions but it's still 1.4 gb, McBride36 :(
[20:04] <shiftplusone> andypugh, I meant full output
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[20:04] <andypugh> Full output of “Make”?
[20:05] <shiftplusone> make modules, pastebin.
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[20:08] <andypugh> shiftplusone: http://pastebin.com/UQ5zxWgU
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[20:10] <ali1234> andypugh: you building on a case sensitive file system?
[20:11] <andypugh> I imagine so, I am building on Raspbian
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[20:11] <ali1234> did you do "make oldconfig"
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[20:11] <andypugh> I did make bcm8209_defconfig
[20:12] <shiftplusone> 2709*?
[20:12] <andypugh> (or whatever the number is. I know it is bcm**09)
[20:12] <andypugh> It was several hours ago, for obvious reasons.
[20:12] <ali1234> the defconfig might be broken, who knows?
[20:12] <shiftplusone> I don't see XT_DSCP_MASK in
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[20:13] <shiftplusone> ipt_ECN.c
[20:13] <shiftplusone> can you pastebin the output of git branch -a ?
[20:13] <ali1234> try building the version you are running, with the config from /proc/config.gz
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[20:14] <ali1234> i'll try to reproduce this
[20:14] <andypugh> shiftplusone: Let me clear the terminal window and start from scratch
[20:14] <shiftplusone> your source files don't match what's in rpi-3.18.y
[20:15] <andypugh> It is possible (50% chance) that the actual errors i pasted were from the RT-PREEMPT branch.
[20:15] <andypugh> I _thought_ I had found the right spot in the backtrace, but perhaps I was wasting your time.
[20:15] <shiftplusone> ... O_o that's not a branch in https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux
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[20:16] <ali1234> building rpi-3.18.y with bcm2709_defconfig...
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[20:17] <andypugh> shiftplusone: Well, I wouldn’t be trying to compile a kernel if I wanted the stock one, would I? I backtracked to the stock one to see if I could manage to make that work after days of fail with a patched one.
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[20:18] <ali1234> sounds like you need to issue a 'git reset --hard HEAD && git clean -D -f && make mrproper'
[20:18] <andypugh> Yes, that does sound like a good idea
[20:19] <shiftplusone> oh... then that's probably the first thing to mention.
[20:19] <jcalonso> Hello, I was doing a system update (apt-get upgrade) via ssh, and my conection failed, now my raspberrypi wont boot, im having the error: Kernel Panic : VFS :Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block Any ideas how to fix this?
[20:19] <shiftplusone> anyway, good luck.
[20:19] <andypugh> shiftplusone: Yes, sorry, but it is the stock kernel I am struggling with at the moment.
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[20:20] <ali1234> andypugh: can't you cross compile? doesn't building on the pi take forever?
[20:20] <Tachyon`> jcalonso, it's likely the sd card is corrupt, you'll just have to reinstall, you could try mounting it in something else but that's not looking good
[20:20] <andypugh> I was trying to keep things simple. I get enough wrong with a native compile without having to worry about what elements of a cross-compile I have messed up.
[20:21] <ali1234> cross compiling the kernel is trivial
[20:21] <andypugh> make -j4 with the Pi2 isn’t _too_ bad
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[20:21] <ali1234> export ARCH=arm; export CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi-
[20:21] <ali1234> that's literally it on ubuntu, you can install that arm compiler from the repos
[20:22] <jcalonso> Tachyon`: thats what im afraid of. I will like to do a backup first
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[20:23] <Tachyon`> well, you won't be abl eto do that on the pi
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[20:23] <Tachyon`> but you might be able to either mount it on another linux box or if not dd it to a file and poke through to recover what you can, lol
[20:23] <andypugh> I have a rather eccentric setup here, with lots of boards all over the house and workshop but only one actual monitor and keyboard, and those are on the iMac….
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[20:25] <ali1234> 3.18.y builds fine for me with the defconfig
[20:25] <andypugh> ali1234: Modules too?
[20:26] <ali1234> yeah 'make' - builds them
[20:26] <andypugh> Oh
[20:27] <andypugh> That’s strange, as “make” completed without errors, then “make modules” errored for me…
[20:27] <ali1234> maybe make failed but you didn't notice because -j4
[20:27] <jcalonso> Tachyon`: ok, let me try mountin in another linux box
[20:28] <ali1234> it doesn't stop all the jobs on first error
[20:28] <andypugh> Not unlikely. I was asleep at the time after all
[20:28] <ali1234> so it can keep going for quite some time
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[20:32] <niston> watching "halt and catch fire"
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[20:54] <shiftplusone> bah... why isn't anything people recommend on netflix
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[21:01] <shiftplusone> apart from house of cards... people recommend that and it's on netflix... but it's terrible and everyone who likes it is wrong (about everything).
[21:02] <McBride36> marco polo
[21:02] <shiftplusone> will check it out, thanks. Currently binging on bates motel.
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[21:32] <aberrant> jcalonso: it’s likely a power issue
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[21:32] <aberrant> jcalonso: get a 10W (5V@2A) power supply.
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[21:36] <drag0nius> do i need some special active usb hub to power rpi or any would do?
[21:36] <drag0nius> maybe it's bad idea alltogether?
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[21:46] <shiftplusone> drag0nius, it's a gamble.
[21:47] <drag0nius> how about plugging 2 usb ethernet cards without active hub?
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[21:48] <muriani> if your pi has enough power that's no big deal
[21:48] <muriani> well, which pi is it?
[21:50] <drag0nius> 512 model
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[21:51] <muriani> ah, should be ok with enough power then
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[22:37] <devslash> is there a site that I can use to find wireless adapters that are compatible with RPI model B running Raspbian
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[22:41] <atouk> http://elinux.org/RPi_USB_Wi-Fi_Adapters
[22:41] <muriani> I literally plugged a random dualband N adapter into my pi and it worked >_<
[22:41] <muriani> I have no clue what it is
[22:42] <muriani> I expected to have to get firmware at least
[22:42] <atouk> pretty much any wifi adapter you get now uses a realtek chip anyway
[22:42] <devslash> which adapter is it
[22:42] <muriani> devslash: you may have missed the portion where I said I have no clue what it is
[22:42] <devslash> oh ok
[22:43] <muriani> :P
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[22:54] <willmore> lsusb -v?
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[22:58] <muriani> yeah I don't have the card with me atm
[22:58] <muriani> most of the time I have it plugged into ethernet
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[23:21] <devslash> this device is listed on Amazon as compatible with the RPI http://www.amazon.com/Cirago-Bluetooth-Speed-Adapter-BTA7300/dp/B005QUQPDA/ref=sr_1_28?ie=UTF8&qid=1426801182&sr=8-28&keywords=wifi+adapter+for+raspberry+pi
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[23:21] <UukGoblin> has the gpio5 to control camera LED changed in B+?
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[23:22] <UukGoblin> because I'm sending 0 to /sys/class/gpio/gpio5/value and the LED doesn't go down (I've exported it and set direction to out)
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[23:28] <UukGoblin> ah, found it, it's 32 now
[23:28] <UukGoblin> lots of outdated tutorials ;-?
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[23:37] <andypugh> ali1234: shiftplusone: I reset to HEAD, made clean, still get a build failure. http://pastebin.com/yKYx3XL7
[23:38] <ShorTie> make distclean maybe ??
[23:40] <andypugh> At 3 hours per iteration this could take a long time to sort out
[23:41] <e^ipi> UukGoblin: tutorials are almost always outdated and useless. you gain no understanding from typing through a tutorial even when they work
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[23:42] <UukGoblin> e^ipi, they show up when googling though :-S
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[23:43] <e^ipi> yeah, there’s been a prevailing notion that people just want to get things to do something with as little friction as possible, without any thought towards whether that’s the best way to actually get the thing to do what you want, or understanding what you’re doing
[23:43] <e^ipi> ultimately tutorials are just like having obsfucated source code, except you *feel* like you did something
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[23:44] <e^ipi> i really wish people would just publish spec sheets and leave it at that
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[23:45] <UukGoblin> e^ipi, I'd prefer that too. It's actually way harder to find something technical on the raspberry pi site now
[23:45] <e^ipi> oh, yeah the raspi site is terrible
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[23:45] <e^ipi> i think you ( & I ) that see the raspi as a bunch of gpio pins that run linux are in the vast minority
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[23:45] <e^ipi> most people seem to want to use them as set-top boxes or whatever
[23:45] <UukGoblin> yeah ;-S
[23:45] <McBride36> but that's exactly what the pi is
[23:46] <McBride36> it's just a dinky computer with gpio pins
[23:46] <McBride36> nothing more
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[23:46] <ShorTie> the SoC was designed for set-top boxes
[23:46] <e^ipi> McBride36: tell that to all of the community & marketing blubs and project sites and what have you that are selling it as just a small computer
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[23:46] <ShorTie> that is why there is a video core in it
[23:46] <jamesaxl> hi
[23:47] <jamesaxl> i see that with GPIO.PWM i an play wth any Gpio as pwm
[23:47] <e^ipi> having IO rails is a whole lot more interesting than just a tiny computer
[23:47] <McBride36> having a computer control thos IO rails is more interesting
[23:47] <McBride36> if i wanted just IO i can stick with arduino
[23:47] <e^ipi> we’ve had computers that can drive video for decades now, off the shelf electronic kits with decent processing power are new
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[23:52] <andypugh> Aha! #include <linux/netfilter_ipv4/ipt_ECN.h>
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[23:52] <andypugh> No such file.
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[23:54] <ShorTie> there is help in 'make menuconfig'
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[23:55] <andypugh> Help for what? Missing header files?
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[23:56] <e^ipi> i haven’t built linux in a decade, but sometimes headers are generated
[23:58] <ShorTie> do you really need that though
[23:59] <ShorTie> maybe the .config is messed up
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