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[15:42] <NobCat> http://privatepaste.com/0d361bbba1
[15:42] <Tenkawa> NobCat: is that text only?
[15:42] <Tenkawa> no graphics here
[15:42] <benny-> i want $ cat /proc/asound/cards
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[15:42] <NobCat> Tenkawa thats amixer
[15:42] <Tenkawa> let benny try.
[15:43] <NobCat> alsa mixer has a "gui" of soirts
[15:43] * Tenkawa has very little experience messing with alsa
[15:43] <NobCat> kk
[15:43] <NobCat> 1 sec benny-
[15:43] <NobCat> http://privatepaste.com/bee7d90248
[15:44] <NobCat> mic works, just audio out is being a massive ballache
[15:44] <benny-> and what exactly are you trying? didn't get the whole conversation
[15:44] <NobCat> Jasper
[15:44] <benny-> so this is a usb soundcard?
[15:44] <benny-> ^^
[15:44] <NobCat> its a usb mic, and onboard rpi sound
[15:44] <benny-> so you want to use the usb mic as input, and the rpi soundchip as output?
[15:45] <NobCat> yep
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[15:45] <NobCat> want to see aplay -l and arecord -l ?
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[15:46] <NobCat> http://privatepaste.com/980375f869
[15:46] <benny-> no, w8 a sec
[15:46] <NobCat> kk
[15:46] <peetbog> this is why I like pulse better. I can't help him with jack. arecord is a great little recorder with lots of options. like NobCat said
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[15:48] <benny-> nobcat, can you try to put this http://pastebin.com/pndzHHNv
[15:48] <NobCat> ok
[15:48] <benny-> in ~/.asoundrc
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[15:49] <benny-> you may have to create this file, and it's only for your current user, couldn't find the correct filename for global setting, but we can figure that out later xD
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[15:50] <NobCat> benny-, o7
[15:50] <NobCat> i salute you sir
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[15:50] <benny-> does it work?
[15:50] <NobCat> yup
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[15:50] <benny-> ok, fine =)
[15:50] <NobCat> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ aplay numnuts.wav
[15:50] <NobCat> Playing WAVE 'numnuts.wav' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 11025 Hz, Mono
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[15:51] <benny-> ok
[15:51] <benny-> you can put the same content to /etc/asound.conf
[15:51] <benny-> and remove the .asoundrc
[15:51] <peetbog> you probably want to set the option to kick that up to 16 bits on your record.
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[15:51] <benny-> so you have a global setup, not only userbased
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[15:53] <NobCat> ok, ill do that now
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[15:54] <NobCat> benny-, how would i up it to 16bits?
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[15:54] <NobCat> alsamixer?
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[15:55] <peetbog> no "arecord --help" there are a ton of options. standard cd quality is 44,100 at 16 bits
[15:55] <benny-> i think your wavefile is 8bit @ 11kHz
[15:55] <SohamG> When I plug an ethernet cord into my pc, it does absolutely nothing....what do I do to resolve this? My aim is to share my internet connection(3g or wifi) to my rasp pi
[15:55] <benny-> did you record it? or is it just a test file?
[15:55] <NobCat> it was just a test file
[15:56] <NobCat> downloaded from some place
[15:56] <peetbog> oh, then nevermind. it will play what it was recorded at
[15:56] <benny-> ok, the info is about the file, not your playback/record device
[15:56] <benny-> so you can just ignore that :>
[15:56] <NobCat> ok
[15:56] <peetbog> I will go back to building my pi case. www.peetbog.com/pi_case.jpg
[15:56] <NobCat> cheers for the help
[15:57] <benny-> i love to mess with alsa :P
[15:57] <peetbog> It is jack that gives me grief.
[15:58] <benny-> jack/pulse are useless
[15:58] <benny-> they just add another useless layer
[15:58] <peetbog> On the raspian B+ I was able to remove it with sonic and install just pulse. had problems this time around with the pi2. seems I forgot a step
[15:59] <peetbog> pulse is a pretty neat sound server. I can deal with it. kde editions can ball stuff up.
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[16:02] <benny-> SohamG, which OS on the host which should share internet?
[16:02] <benny-> did the rpi got an ip/gateway/dns from the host?
[16:04] <SohamG> I have ubuntu 14.04 on my pc(the host). the prob is my pc doesnt see the connection, like it doesnt respond/care. I see the lights on the socket though
[16:05] <peetbog> I see I have to do something to make the launch button pi case more aesthetic. 10 people viewed, 0 comments. Introverted crowd or ugly case?
[16:05] <benny-> i don't know if the rpi has autocrossover
[16:05] <benny-> else you would need a crossed cable or a hub/switch between pi and pc
[16:05] <ppq> SohamG, you need to configure it with network-manager on the ubuntu pc
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[16:06] <SohamG> ppq, I did, but it doesnt connect, like my OS doesnt see the port! It's probably a driver issue, s what should I do?
[16:06] <ppq> SohamG, did you set up the internet connection sharing correctly?
[16:07] <ppq> that is not done automagically
[16:07] <SohamG> Yes! I did! I saw some tuts on the net and followed them!
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[16:09] <SohamG> ppq, At this point(after doing tests), I am pretty sure its a driver issue. Can you help me in that regard?
[16:10] <ppq> i don't know much about that, sorry
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[16:12] <benny-> can you connect to the pi from your hostmachine?
[16:13] <SohamG> benny-, um, that was my problem xP....No I cant. I cant connect to ANY ethernet connection!(host or client)
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[16:15] <benny-> have you ever used lan on your host? xD
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[16:16] <SohamG> benny-, I attempted to connect it to my router, but it didnt work. Same issue. Simply ignored by the OS
[16:17] <benny-> so please paste output of "ifconfig -a" on pastebin.com or something like thata
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[16:21] <SohamG> benny-, Sorry I forget my pi had a static ip.....
[16:22] <SohamG> benny-, but the problem is, my pc doesnt say that it is connected to the pi...
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[16:23] <benny-> so please paste the output of ifconfig from the host
[16:23] <benny-> it should be in the same subnet to connect to the rpi
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[16:23] <benny-> and if you use static ip on the rpi you have also to set gateway and nameserver by hand
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[16:24] <benny-> which would be somethink like "nameserver 1.1.1.1" in /etc/resolv.conf on rpi, where 1.1.1.1 is the ip of the host which shares internet
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[16:24] <benny-> and you have to set route on the rpi by "route add default gw 1.1.1.1"
[16:24] <benny-> where 1.1.1.1 is also the ip of your host
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[16:38] <Tenkawa> so.. anyone got any theories or know why noone has built a true sata interface addon for the rpi2 yet?
[16:38] <NobCat> because it will be hindered by the data throughput speed of the USB bus
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[16:39] <NobCat> might aswell just use a usb > sata cable
[16:39] <shiftplusone> Why would they? Using anything other than USB for high speed transfers is not trivial. It's easier to buy a board that actually meets your needs in the first place.
[16:39] <Tenkawa> NobCat: thats what I do now
[16:39] <Tenkawa> shiftplusone: wasnt sure if there may have been unutilized bus capabilty for it
[16:39] <Tenkawa> guess not
[16:40] <shiftplusone> there is, but it's not easy or cheap to use.
[16:41] <Tenkawa> the not cheap part doesnt bother me ... however is the "not easy" part mass doable?
[16:41] <shiftplusone> doable for who? I've spent a few months on it with all of the documentation available to me without getting very far.
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[16:42] <Tenkawa> shiftplusone: an entity that focuses on mass storage and peripherals
[16:42] <Tenkawa> ie a collabera.. etc
[16:42] <shiftplusone> probably not
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[16:42] <Tenkawa> nod
[16:42] <shiftplusone> I think it would have to be broadcom
[16:42] <Tenkawa> oh well :)
[16:42] <methuzla> what does the slice media player use for attaching the HDD? (maybe it's just USB, but don't know)
[16:42] <shiftplusone> or someone very dedicated
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[16:43] <shiftplusone> methuzla, it is indeed a usb to sata bridge
[16:43] <Tenkawa> sata -> usb will just have to suffice
[16:43] <Tenkawa> which is really the case for me.. was just curious thouhh
[16:43] <Tenkawa> er though
[16:44] <Tenkawa> I just realized I need a few more sata-usb bridges
[16:44] <Tenkawa> I'm 3 short
[16:44] <Tenkawa> oops
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[16:46] <Tenkawa> oh good.. only 2 short
[16:48] * ozzzy just ran out and got an enclosure for one of the ssds
[16:48] <Tenkawa> heheheeeh
[16:48] <ozzzy> I'll use it to move files around
[16:48] <Tenkawa> now now.... trying to do things the "organized" way??
[16:48] <Tenkawa> thats no fun :)
[16:48] <ozzzy> nope... but I don't have any USB sticks (well... some 1G ones)
[16:49] <Tenkawa> hehehe
[16:49] <Tenkawa> I'm trying to decide which 3 ssd's to use
[16:49] <ozzzy> don't need one for the pi... it has lots of space
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[16:50] <Tenkawa> think I might go 64/74/128
[16:50] <Tenkawa> er 64/64/128
[16:50] <Tenkawa> since I dont have 3 64s
[16:50] <Tenkawa> my 256 got repurposed
[16:51] <Tenkawa> and I cant convince myself to pay what they want for a 512 or 1024 yet
[16:51] <ozzzy> my desktop/laptop/netbook have platters.... I'm not about to go SSD there
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[16:52] <Tenkawa> i dare not on my notebook
[16:52] <Tenkawa> especially the conditions it gets put through (dare not go platter)
[16:53] <Tenkawa> i would destroy the platters quicklt
[16:53] <Tenkawa> quickly
[16:54] <Tenkawa> bbl
[16:54] <Tenkawa> er afk
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[17:00] <ozzzy> my laptop spends lots of nights out in the cold, dark and dewy
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[17:07] <Bilby> <3 SSDs. Game changer
[17:08] <ozzzy> too much work to change over [sigh]
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[17:08] <Bilby> it's not bad, there is software that makes it work pretty well
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[17:09] <zylinx> greetings, has anyone made an FMBerry from hackaday ?
[17:09] <zylinx> https://github.com/manawyrm/FMBerry/
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[17:10] <Bilby> Hi zylinx, there have been a few posts on reddit about it but i don't think anyone in here has done it
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[17:11] <zylinx> oh ok thanks Bilby.
[17:11] <Bilby> http://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/2qaasn/congratulations_you_received_a_raspberry_pi_as_a/ has some links in it
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[17:12] <zylinx> Bilby, ta but i dont see FMBerry there ? anyways dont worry i have already made one i just have some questions
[17:13] <Bilby> ah! okay. no worries.
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[17:13] <Bilby> Coupla links in case you still want them - http://www.icrobotics.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Turning_the_Raspberry_Pi_Into_an_FM_Transmitter | http://naich.net/wordpress/?p=927
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[17:14] <zylinx> lol thanks, that is not what i am asking about. FMBerry is not the 1 wire transmitter using the GPIO pins
[17:15] <Bilby> man, i'm lost then lol
[17:15] * Bilby wanders off to find more coffee
[17:15] <zylinx> https://github.com/manawyrm/FMBerry/
[17:15] <zylinx> ^^ lol
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[17:18] <kreggly> I think this would be super if we could have one Pi control multiple transmitters/streams
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[17:19] <Bilby> That is pretty neat. Similar to the one available from sparkfun
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[17:20] <baldpope> could someone point me to a good link for cross compiling for rpi?
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[17:21] <kreggly> How would the pi work with multiple USB audio cards?
[17:22] <kreggly> Something small enough to shoot up a tree with a country station, some blues, podcasts, classic rock.
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[17:22] <kreggly> Festival tunes.
[17:23] <zylinx> kreggly: USB audio DAC's are very small and easy to setup
[17:23] <zylinx> personally have not tried many at once but i know its very possible
[17:23] <zylinx> they are plug and play
[17:24] <zylinx> and get assigned an audio device ID
[17:24] <zylinx> which you can then select as an output
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[17:25] <kreggly> Wonder how that would work as docker containers with a basic command line audio player.
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[17:25] <methuzla> read up on alsa and multiple sound cards
[17:25] <zylinx> yeah alsa is your guy
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[17:27] <zylinx> is anybody around who has worked with I2C ?
[17:29] <kreggly> Sure.
[17:29] <methuzla> probably
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[17:31] <zylinx> i am attempting to get FMBerry working, but the github guide is for a rapberry pi model B, and i have a RPI 2 B.
[17:32] <zylinx> in Arch linux but i am running openelec
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[17:32] <zylinx> so things like nano /etc/modprobe.d/raspi-blacklist.conf dont exist for me
[17:33] <methuzla> do you have i2c working on the pi2?
[17:33] <zylinx> just wondering if i get things wrong, will there be any chance of damaging my pi ?
[17:34] <zylinx> no im not sure how to do it
[17:35] <zylinx> i have done all the soldering all thats left is to enable i2c, install the daemon and connect my board. but i am scared i will over look something
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[17:36] <zylinx> since the guide is for a different pi on a different distro, and its my first time with i2c
[17:36] <methuzla> sudo i2cdetect -y 1
[17:36] <methuzla> what do you get from that?
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[17:42] <ozzzy> the chinese 5v/2a supplies aren't worth the 4 dollars LOL
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[17:43] <ozzzy> I have an old Iomega 5v/1a supply from a Zip drive that runs the Pi2 perfectly including allowing hot-plugging usb sticks/drives etc.
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[17:46] <willy23123> does anyone know about gpio device tree
[17:47] <methuzla> probably
[17:48] <willy23123> i have a raspberry pi and want to set gpio 6 to output low but it reverts to output high after less than a second
[17:48] <willy23123> its a model A+
[17:48] <methuzla> how are you setting it low?
[17:49] <willy23123> with the bcm2835 c library
[17:49] <zylinx> willy23123: maybe your script is terminating and cleaning up ?
[17:49] <willy23123> my mike mc calley
[17:49] <Sonny_Jim> Can you paste the code somewhere?
[17:49] <willy23123> is there a way to prevent the clean up on terminate
[17:49] <zylinx> methuzla: i get -sh: i2cdetect: not found
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[17:50] <Sonny_Jim> If that's all it does, why not just use the gpio util from WiringPi?
[17:51] <Sonny_Jim> gpio mode 6 out
[17:51] <methuzla> zylinx anything show up with: ls /dev/i2c*
[17:51] <Sonny_Jim> gpio write 6 1
[17:51] <willy23123> is gpio 6 reserved for anything special
[17:51] <Sonny_Jim> Not that I can see
[17:51] <zylinx> nope
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[17:51] <willy23123> i think its says its for network reset
[17:51] <willy23123> its pin 31
[17:52] <willy23123> bcm gpio 6
[17:52] <zylinx> methuzla: nope
[17:52] <Sonny_Jim> What says it's for network reset?
[17:52] <methuzla> zylinx you'll need to enable i2c (but i don't know how arch goes about doing that, should be able to google it)
[17:53] <methuzla> zylinx once enabled, you should see /dev/i2c-1 show up
[17:53] <willy23123> the gpio 6 is only available on the a+ and b+ and older firmware used it for network reset
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[17:53] <Sonny_Jim> Ah wait a minute
[17:53] <methuzla> zylinx then download i2c tools: sudo apt-get install i2c-tools
[17:53] <zylinx> thnks methuzla: i am using openelec actually maybe its not as customizable as i need
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[17:53] <Sonny_Jim> willy23123: Where does it say this, can you link to the page?
[17:54] <Sonny_Jim> Bear in mind also that the bcmgpio library uses a different numbering system
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[17:54] <zylinx> methuzla: they have even disabled apt-get :(
[17:54] <methuzla> zylinx the FMBerry code seems to get at i2c through the file system (i.e. /dev/i2c-1), so once you've got i2c enabled, it might work
[17:55] <zylinx> ok thanks
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[17:56] <methuzla> np. good luck
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[18:20] <He4dShOt> I added some lines for overclock
[18:20] <He4dShOt> but it's not working
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[19:21] <grammoboy> is the a+ enough for video recording with the camera module?
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[19:33] <Megaf_> folks, how can I read the current CPU clock?
[19:35] <atouk> http://elinux.org/RPI_vcgencmd_usage
[19:37] <exobuzz> sudo cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq
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[19:47] <ali1234> grammoboy: yes, you might need a USB hard drive though, depending on the quality required
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[19:48] <grammoboy> ali1234, can't you display it live without storing?
[19:49] <ali1234> sure, you didn't ask for that though
[19:49] <ali1234> doing that doesn't even use any CPU cos the GPU does it all
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[19:50] <ali1234> the GPU is specifically designed for that type of use
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[19:59] <grammoboy> ali1234, which rpi version is best for that task?
[19:59] <ali1234> they are all the same
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[20:00] <grammoboy> a model b 2 has more gpu memory
[20:01] <ali1234> yes
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[20:02] <grammoboy> but performance it the same for that task?
[20:02] <ali1234> yes
[20:02] <grammoboy> hm ok
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[21:22] <zylinx> how would i go about building and installing packages when i do not have access to apt-get ?
[21:22] <zylinx> ie. i2c-tools
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[21:24] <shiftplusone> depends on why you don't have access to apt-get
[21:24] <Ryccardo> obtain package file, `dpkg -i package1.deb package2.deb ...`
[21:25] <Ryccardo> iterate for dependencies or figure them out beforehand and do it in less steps
[21:26] <zylinx> thanks Ryccardo will this work for tar.bz2 ?
[21:27] <Ryccardo> ...nope
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[21:27] <zylinx> Ryccardo i need to install packages like these http://dl.lm-sensors.org/i2c-tools/releases/
[21:28] <zylinx> any idea ?
[21:28] <Ryccardo> if that contains source code, you might convert it to binary .deb with "checkinstall", never tried it but basically you follow the instructions of the package replacing the "make install" step
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[21:29] <Ryccardo> yup, go with checkinstall if you want nicely integrated packages or just install it manually
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[21:29] <zylinx> ok cool, coz i dont have dpkg either
[21:30] <zylinx> installing manually would be running the make file and copying the files to somewhere ?
[21:30] <Ryccardo> o.o
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[21:30] <Ryccardo> not using raspbian or what?
[21:30] <zylinx> no openelec
[21:30] <Ryccardo> unless it's not a debian clone, it'd be shocking if they removed dpkg
[21:30] <zylinx> but nobody on openelec wants to help with this stuff
[21:31] <Ryccardo> anyway, instructions are inside the package: [...] simply run "make" to build the tools, and
[21:31] <Ryccardo> "make install" to install them.
[21:31] <shiftplusone> zylinx, for good reasons
[21:31] <shiftplusone> Ryccardo, effectively, it's a read only file system
[21:31] <zylinx> OpenELEC:~ # dpkg -sh: dpkg: not found
[21:31] <shiftplusone> you're using openelec wrong
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[21:32] <zylinx> howcome ?
[21:32] <Jusii> you need to compile them yourself then place them under addons. wouldn't be too hard to get some add-on and look into them how they do them
[21:32] <zylinx> thanks again Ryccardo
[21:32] <shiftplusone> Or build openelec from scratch after adding your own packages
[21:33] <Ryccardo> shiftplusone: so it's a loop mounted cramfs or the like?
[21:33] <shiftplusone> and none of these are beginner-friendly tasks.
[21:33] <shiftplusone> Ryccardo, yeah, squashfs, I think.
[21:33] <Jusii> would be surprised if google: kodi add-on howto wouldn't lead to instructions
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[21:33] <Ryccardo> absolutely agree with shiftplusone then -- made initrds by hand for Android and it wasn't fun
[21:34] <zylinx> i just want FMBerry on my openelec :(
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[21:34] <Jusii> and having worked with squashfs and even openelec, making that as addon is tons easire
[21:34] <zylinx> https://github.com/Manawyrm/FMBerry/
[21:35] <zylinx> i managed to get i2c enabled
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[21:37] <zylinx> so basically i need to take FMBerry and all its dependacies and make a kodi add on ?
[21:37] <shiftplusone> Don't know how straight forward it is to make an addon which installs binaries.
[21:38] <zylinx> i found this, not sure if its what i am looking for
[21:38] <zylinx> https://github.com/OpenELEC/unofficial-addons/blob/master/addons/debugging/tools/i2c-tools/package.mk
[21:39] <shiftplusone> zylinx, what's your level of linux experience? It's great to learn, but it's better to start in the shallow end and work your way up.
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[21:40] <zylinx> not sure... i just use debian on my laptop
[21:40] <zylinx> basic linux experience
[21:40] <shiftplusone> it does look like binary addons are relatively straight forward though... I have never played with it though.
[21:41] <shiftplusone> zylinx, any reason you don't use something like raspbmc instead?
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[21:41] <shiftplusone> that's a full raspbian distro with kodi on top
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[21:41] <shiftplusone> though we're adding kodi to the raspberrypi.org repo anyway
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[21:42] <zylinx> i have realized this will be a lot easier on raspbmc but just decided to try and pull through
[21:42] <zylinx> only because i am already set up with openelec
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[21:42] <shiftplusone> I like Jusii's suggestion then.... read up on kodi addons
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[21:43] <zylinx> ok cool, so i could make a gui for it too so from the tv i can set the transmit freq and power etc.
[21:43] <zylinx> didnt think i would end up doing this but seems like a cool idea
[21:44] <shiftplusone> still a little iffy about binaries... it all seems to be scripted and interacting with the kodi framework in some way. I haven't looked too far into it though
[21:45] <Ryccardo> from the high school Java I know (and Android examples), making a GUI is hardly fun
[21:45] <shiftplusone> I think the binaries need to be provided by the base OS, kodi is really just an application.
[21:45] <Ryccardo> (only thing VB5 was superior for?)
[21:45] <shiftplusone> VB6 FTW
[21:45] <shiftplusone> I've played around with gtk and qt, but it's all so blah
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[21:46] <zylinx> Ryccardo: i have been employed as an android dev lol
[21:46] <zylinx> i know the pain
[21:46] <Jusii> there's lots of addons with binaries
[21:47] <shiftplusone> People are going on about how great QML is but.... it's just using web stuff to make a GUI, which is much more blah.
[21:47] <zylinx> shiftplusone: ok the add-on i posted, does that add the i2c-tools as a package to be used by other add-ons ?
[21:47] <zylinx> or Jusii ^
[21:47] <shiftplusone> zylinx, that just has the binaries and when you try to 'run' the addon, it will say "this is a console only addon"
[21:49] <zylinx> oh
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[21:50] <zylinx> has the binaries only in its own context?
[21:51] <zylinx> so basically theres no way out for me doing this in openelec other than reading on how add-ons work and make one ..... ?
[21:51] <shiftplusone> don't know... the guy who knows all that kodi and openelec stuff has gone home.
[21:52] <shiftplusone> you can modify the filesystem elsewhere, compress and write it back
[21:52] <shiftplusone> that'll involve cross-compiling and all that fun stuff
[21:52] <shiftplusone> so you'll find it's easier to add it as an openelec package
[21:52] <shiftplusone> and compile openelec yourself
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[21:55] <shiftplusone> I'm going to go home and play farcry 4 though... that seems more fun.
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[21:58] <Jusii> if you want to make that GUI too, then studying making addons is the only way
[21:59] <shiftplusone> I think it should go hand in hand with the openelec build system though
[21:59] <shiftplusone> It's a little dirty to provide binaries not build the same way
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[22:01] <Aerosonic> Hey guys. Is there are more lightweight version of Raspbian?
[22:01] <shiftplusone> You can end up with dependency version mismatch and other fun stuff using different toolchains may result in.
[22:01] <shiftplusone> Aerosonic, looks up raspbian-ua-netinst.
[22:01] <Aerosonic> I still need aptitude, but without the bloat that comes with Raspbian.
[22:01] <shiftplusone> *look
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[22:01] <Aerosonic> Thanks!
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[22:02] <Ryccardo> or open aptitude, mark all "libs" and "oldlibs" as autoinstalled, and press - on packages you don't want :)
[22:02] <shiftplusone> you could just open /var/log/apt/history.log and remove the extra stuff
[22:02] <shiftplusone> but it's much nicer to start with a clean install
[22:03] <Aerosonic> Are there any lightweight alternatives in general? A-la puppy linux with aptitude?
[22:03] <shiftplusone> there's archlinux
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[22:03] <zylinx> thanks Ryccardo, shiftplusone, Jusii. you guys helped me allot !
[22:04] <Aerosonic> shiftplusone: I've looked at arch. Some packages specific to what I do are not available on pacman.
[22:04] <shiftplusone> Ooh, I don't generally get thanked when I start off with "You're doing this wrong!" =P
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[22:04] <shiftplusone> Aerosonic, have you checked AUR?
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[22:04] <Aerosonic> Yeah.
[22:05] <shiftplusone> If you want lightweight and arch doesn't have the packages you need, I don't expect any of the other light distros to be any better.
[22:05] <shiftplusone> gentoo? -P
[22:05] <shiftplusone> =P
[22:05] <Aerosonic> Slack?
[22:05] <shiftplusone> ooh, there is that too
[22:05] <Aerosonic> But it's a major pain in the arse to install.
[22:06] <shiftplusone> keep in mind that raspbian is officially supported... when you use other things, you're missing out on certain things.
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[22:06] <shiftplusone> Aerosonic, start with raspbian-ua-netist and see how you go, maybe?
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[22:06] <Aerosonic> shiftplusone: Yeah, that sounds like a good plan. Thanks!
[22:07] <shiftplusone> but if you want slackware... =P http://rpi.fatdog.eu/
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[22:09] <zylinx> time for a coffee dota break
[22:09] <shiftplusone> oh yeah... I was meant to go home. 'night
[22:09] <Ryccardo> last time I checked slackware (for x64), they made a big deal of "install literally everything" (and didn't support EFI)
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[22:17] <Jusii> ooooo, slackware
[22:18] <Talen> just hearing slackware brings me back
[22:18] <Talen> was my favorite distro
[22:19] <Jusii> don't go there
[22:19] <Talen> remember on floppy
[22:19] <Jusii> I just almost did, but got hold of myself
[22:19] <Jusii> come back
[22:19] <Jusii> do not go there
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[22:24] <shiftplusone> a bit before my time. Anything special about it, or just nostalgia?
[22:25] <dashed> has anyone be able to ssh into pi 2 via ethernet using osx mavericks?
[22:25] <shiftplusone> dashed, that doesn't sound like any special sort of task
[22:26] <ppq> theres nothing special to raspbian's sshd, afaik
[22:26] <ppq> openssh-server
[22:26] <Jusii> endless hole of nostalgia
[22:26] <shiftplusone> nothing at all
[22:26] <Jusii> (but had to check, local mirror still has those 1.2M floppy images for download...)
[22:26] <dashed> shiftplusone: im unable to get it working :(
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[22:27] <ppq> i'm pretty sure the ssh client on any recent mac can work with openssh-server
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[22:27] <ppq> sure your network is working?
[22:28] <dashed> hmm
[22:28] <dashed> the pi seems to be using self-assigned ip address
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[22:28] <ppq> can you ping it?
[22:29] <dashed> yeah
[22:29] <dashed> IP i see is 169.254.131.159
[22:29] <dashed> i thought it should be 192.x.x.x
[22:30] <_Trullo> 169 is no good
[22:30] <_Trullo> dhcp not working?
[22:30] <ozzzy> nope... 169 is bad
[22:30] <dashed> i've been following all the tutorials I've seen
[22:31] <ppq> why is it bad? if your pc is connected directly to the pi, not via the router, the link-local address is fine
[22:31] <dashed> how would one verify that dhcp is working?
[22:31] <_Trullo> you don't get a 169 ipadress :)
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[22:32] <ShorTie> you hooked into a router when you booted
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[22:32] <dashed> no it's connected to my macbook via ethernet
[22:33] <ShorTie> oh, direct pc-pc
[22:33] <_Trullo> connect it to a router
[22:33] <dashed> =/ not really what I want to do
[22:34] <ppq> no need for a router, anyway
[22:34] <muriani> dashed: easiest method is dhcp server on your macbook
[22:34] <ppq> ???
[22:34] <ppq> why not use linklocal, i don't get it
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[22:38] <dashed> ppq: how did you get yours working?
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[22:39] <ppq> plug it in, so both get a link-local address, then just ssh to that ip
[22:40] <dashed> for osx?
[22:41] <ShorTie> as long as they are on the same network they should be able to talk
[22:46] <Ryccardo> if you really want a "real" IP and network access, go to system preferences/sharing/internet sharing/from airport/to ethernet
[22:47] <baldpope> if you're going pc to pc (or mac to pi) make sure you're using a cross-over cable - i don't think a traditional network cable will work
[22:48] <shauno> straight cable works fine here
[22:48] <Ryccardo> modern ethernet cards actually can autoreverse (but I prefer using a cross cable because I paid for it)
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[22:49] <ShorTie> crossover cables are thing of the past, except for cisco stuff maybe
[22:49] <baldpope> true, but I guess it really depends on whether or not the nic he's using supports it
[22:49] <baldpope> just trying not to assume his card supports it
[22:50] <Ryccardo> 2011 MBPs (the last good models) have it, and even then it's been standard for a while on Apples
[22:50] <Jusii> looks like auto mdi-x came out 1998 so
[22:51] <Jusii> you'd need to go long back not to have it
[22:51] <baldpope> ok ok - i'll go back to keeping quiet
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[22:52] <Ryccardo> hey, my desktop PC doesn't do that :)
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[22:52] <Jusii> Ryccardo: !! Isa or EISA card you have in there?
[22:52] <shauno> it's a fair question, but there's no intel macs that need crossover, so it's an easy one to rule out
[22:52] <Ryccardo> Jusii: integrated 3com, the first PCI chipset model of theirs iirc
[22:53] <Jusii> woohoo
[22:53] <Jusii> 509b or something
[22:53] <baldpope> :D
[22:53] <baldpope> i loved my early 3c509b - with all three media types
[22:53] <baldpope> or was that the 509c
[22:53] <Jusii> so got that right :D
[22:53] <Ryccardo> 3C920
[22:54] <Jusii> ooo
[22:54] <baldpope> :D
[22:54] <Jusii> ok, time to install that slackware
[22:54] <baldpope> earlier I asked about good tutorial on setting up cross compiler, anyone have a good link to share?
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[22:57] <Jusii> apt-get install gcc-arm-linux-gnueabihf
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[23:00] <Jusii> that's enough for compiling kernel
[23:01] <baldpope> anything more for an application would just depend on the app requirements?
[23:01] <baldpope> and then how do you specify build target?
[23:01] <ali1234> for kernel or for applications?
[23:01] <baldpope> app
[23:01] <ali1234> it depends on the app
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[23:01] <plugwash> Jusii, my experiance is that switches got auto-mdix long before nics did
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[23:03] <Jusii> plugwash: I think you're right
[23:03] <plugwash> Though IIRC the LAN9512 on the Pi does have auto-mdix so you shouldn't need a crossover to connect a Pi to anything.
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[23:08] <ApolloJustice> oh look its a Codica
[23:08] <Codica> i exist
[23:09] <Froolap> no uh uhhh
[23:09] <ApolloJustice> no u
[23:10] <Codica> If only there was a good way to make a battery for the pi
[23:10] <Codica> well pijuice is a thing
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[23:10] <Jusii> battery is found in me
[23:10] <Codica> I'd love to just have a miniature PC I can carry around, slide out a keyboard n shit
[23:10] * Codica takes out Jusii's battery
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[23:11] <Jusii> we create the battery, cannot kill the battery
[23:11] <Jusii> but seriously, you could run pi with those portable USB batteries for awhile
[23:12] <Codica> True, but charging it will make it a pass through IIRC or smth
[23:12] <Codica> and that kills battery
[23:13] <Codica> Although I could do that (I even have a battery pack)
[23:13] * Ryccardo so the KT2 has screws of different colors and length, I put them in randomly and they fit nice
[23:13] <Codica> although bits quite bulky
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[23:15] <Codica> And if I say quite bulky I mean like Jesus its a monstrosity
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[23:18] <Codica> I guess it is possible tho
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[23:21] <Ryccardo> the word "impossible" is a subset of "I'm possible"
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[23:31] <wcfields> you can go from DVI to HDMI right? it's not just one way?
[23:31] <Ryccardo> DVI-D = (some features of) HDMI, sure
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[23:34] <dashed> hmm
[23:34] <dashed> seems avahi works
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[23:36] <shiftplusone> hurray for avahi
[23:36] <shiftplusone> Does anybody think it should come pre-installed?
[23:36] <shiftplusone> Or would it be extra bloat?
[23:36] <chod> wassat
[23:37] <Ryccardo> through dependencies, even the allegedly nothing-installed-by-default Arch has it on my PC
[23:37] <shiftplusone> mdns thingy. Lets you ssh into the pi, for example, without knowing the IP
[23:37] <chod> using arp type recog ?
[23:38] <chod> or some rely on some remote server else where?
[23:38] <dashed> avahi-autoipd is what i needed to get around the self-assigned IP issue when connecting the pi 2 to the macbook via ethernet
[23:38] <shiftplusone> using black magic
[23:38] <shiftplusone> no remote servers
[23:38] <Ryccardo> chod: from all I know, it does something with the "broadcast address"
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[23:39] <shiftplusone> aye, I suppose it uses multicasting to 'advertise'... hence the 'm'DNS
[23:39] <chod> arp -a then
[23:39] <chod> and pick a free one
[23:40] * chod will look
[23:40] <shiftplusone> arp hasn't worked for me
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[23:41] <chod> arp lists things its 'seen'
[23:41] <shiftplusone> yup, that's what I assumed
[23:41] <chod> there is a more tech answer <
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[23:46] <dashed> it's how bonjour works
[23:46] <ali1234> it should be installed by default
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[23:50] <chod> erm found a document on it but its no clearer
[23:51] <chod> http://meetings.ripe.net/ripe-55/presentations/strotmann-mdns.pdf
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