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IRC Log for 2015-03-30

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[0:06] <Lorduncan> hey :)
[0:06] <Lorduncan> whats up?
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[0:08] <Lorduncan> im trying to make a Raspberry pi HotSpot to share some wifi with my costumers
[0:08] <Lorduncan> its already working
[0:08] <Lorduncan> but i dont find the way to "hide" my LAN from the wlan0
[0:08] <Phil_Markham> does anyone have any experience using kweb's command link interface? Even the examples in /usr/local/share/kweb aren't working for me
[0:09] <Lorduncan> i dont understand the iptables is hard shit XD
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[0:10] <Sonny_Jim> What do you mean by 'hide'?
[0:10] <Lorduncan> i dont want costumers have access to my LAN
[0:10] <Lorduncan> i have shared folders, internal web servers and that things
[0:11] <Lorduncan> and they could fuck somethings if they get access and time to destroy
[0:12] <Lorduncan> so i have wlan0 with hostapd and DHCP in AP mode (192.168.2.1) forwading trafic to eth0 (192.168.1.35) -> to gateway (192.168.1.1)
[0:13] <Lorduncan> thats how its working
[0:13] <Sonny_Jim> Language...
[0:13] <Lorduncan> sorry
[0:13] <Sonny_Jim> So, should be pretty easy
[0:13] <Lorduncan> im spanish
[0:13] <Lorduncan> i try my best
[0:13] * Sonny_Jim thinks
[0:14] <muriani> well your english is fine, that's not what he meant with the warning :)
[0:14] <Sonny_Jim> So, setup an iptables rule on the input chain from wlan0 that is destined for anywhere else on the LAN apart from the Pi
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[0:15] <Sonny_Jim> Easiest way would be to setup a rule that denies anything from wlan0, then poke holes for what you need
[0:15] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm, actually maybe not
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[0:18] <Lorduncan> i was all day looking for a step by step config, i found hundreds of tutorial about hostapd and dhcp... nothing about hot to block that access
[0:18] <Sonny_Jim> So something like:
[0:19] <Sonny_Jim> iptables -A INPUT -i wlan0 -d [lan_mask] -j DROP
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[0:19] <Sonny_Jim> then setup some rules to allow dhcpd, dns
[0:19] <Lorduncan> and its weird cuz if u cant do this ... whats the sence of the hotspot? would be a totaly normal 20 euros access point but more expensive + hour of setup
[0:19] <Sonny_Jim> You can almost certainly do it
[0:19] <Sonny_Jim> It just takes a bit of iptables fu
[0:20] <Lorduncan> iptables are too hard for me
[0:20] <Sonny_Jim> You might have more luck asking in a Linux channel
[0:20] <Lorduncan> i dont get how they works
[0:20] <Lorduncan> thats good idea
[0:20] <Lorduncan> lets try
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[0:27] <ShorTie> pi isn't gonna make a good hotspot/access point anyways
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[0:27] <ShorTie> it will bog down so easily and nobody will get anything
[0:28] <Lorduncan> is what i have and i dont spect more that 2 or 3 clients conected at same time
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[0:34] <Sonny_Jim> Well, I'm calling my SSH honeypot a success
[0:34] <Sonny_Jim> I was getting hammered by ssh password attempts pretty much every minute
[0:35] <Sonny_Jim> Setup a fake ssh server, after a few connections they must have flagged me as a honeypot, as I haven't seen an attempt for nearly 8 hours
[0:36] <Lorduncan> hahaha
[0:36] <Lorduncan> i will directly stop ssh service from wlan0
[0:37] <Lorduncan> i will concet to it from eth0
[0:37] <Lorduncan> but first i need to find the way to understand the iptables XD
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[1:21] <teknic111> is there a wifi adapter that is known for its range that will work out of the box with the pi?
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[1:23] <Sonny_Jim> WiFi is a two way thing, it's not good having the most powerful WiFi dongle in the word if the access point is crap
[1:24] <teknic111> access point is the best consumer router available. The almighty WRT1900ac.
[1:25] <teknic111> i think i'm gonna go with this.... http://www.amazon.com/Wifi-Antenna-Raspberry-Pi-Instructions/dp/B00H95C0A2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1427671511&sr=8-1&keywords=BL-LW05-AR5
[1:25] <teknic111> thoughts???
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[1:34] <Lorduncan> buy a LogiLink WL0084B and you will be able to use it as AP
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[1:36] <cstk421> anyone know how to configure / troubleshoot 3g usb connectivity ?
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[2:30] <Bobbydigital420> Need some help downgrading my pi2. Am using the commit number for a lower firmware/kernel and it goes through its process and says to reboot but still stuck on the same kernel
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[2:45] <Chillum> I think the latest firmware is needed to run the pi 2
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[2:49] <jaggz-> how do i pick the gpio ports to use? i need two for use with pir motion sensors
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[2:50] <jaggz-> like, this one tutorial uses 7 for it.. why did they pick that?
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[2:50] <clever> whatever isnt in use is how i pick them
[2:50] <clever> 7 is in a corner, so its hard for a noob to get the wrong one also
[2:53] <Tenkawa> Anyone know a decent command line capable alternative to handbrake?
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[2:53] <jaggz-> clever, thanks
[2:54] * Tenkawa wishes some updates would come out on the windows for pi2 status
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[2:55] <ali1234> Tenkawa: avconv or ffmpeg?
[2:55] <Tenkawa> let me give one of those a try
[2:55] <ali1234> they are command line only, and they are what handbrake uses afaik
[2:55] <ali1234> avconv is a fork of ffmpeg
[2:56] <Tenkawa> cool thanks
[2:56] <Tenkawa> going to try one of them out shortly
[2:58] <ali1234> does using a wide angle lens help in low light situations? seems like it must be putting more light on to the sensor by nature of the larger field of view
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[3:03] <Froolad> I think you would get less light in exchange for more area... but I do not know....
[3:04] <ali1234> seems to me that the picture that would normally fill the whole sensor is now just a small area in the middle. so the photon are now more dense. but you could well be right. i have no idea
[3:04] <ozzzy> the 'speed' of a lens has little to do with the field of view
[3:05] <cstk421> how would i delay eth0 from coming up until after wvdial connects ?
[3:05] <cstk421> is there a method to delay iface's from coming up ?
[3:06] <ali1234> cstk421: you'll have to hack around in the startup scripts. it's probably not worth it. what are you actually trying to do?
[3:06] <Tenkawa> ali1234: thanks.. that should help me test this.
[3:06] <Tenkawa> cheers all
[3:06] <Chillum> long lenses capture less light, wide angle captures more light
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[3:07] <Chillum> but other factors have much more effect
[3:07] <cstk421> ali1234: well after 3 days i finally got wvdial to connect my 3g modem. the problem is apparently the ppp connection doesnt enter a default route. so my eth0 interface that has a static ip of which i use to manage the pi has a default route not allowing the pi to get out.
[3:08] <cstk421> ali1234: ive been reading that if i bring the eth0 interface up after the wvdial ppp connection starts then it would work
[3:08] <ali1234> cstk421: you need the pppd "replacedefaultroute" option
[3:08] <cstk421> hmmmm
[3:08] <ali1234> which you should be able to set somewhere in wvdial's config
[3:08] <cstk421> didnt know that searching now
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[3:20] <cstk421> ali1234: ok i found the info on defaultroute any idea how to properly use it ? its in there but still no access
[3:20] <cstk421> i can ping the gateway and dns no problem but nothing else
[3:20] <ali1234> it's been years since i had to deal with ppp, sorry
[3:21] <cstk421> gotcha np you gave me direction though
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[3:24] <giddles> ehm i got a gdrive problem
[3:24] <giddles> i got one single token/auth key for every machine...
[3:24] <giddles> is that correct? i got a 400 error, bad request
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[4:29] <dfcnvt> I have a remote control with two soldered wires directly to a button (two terminal on both end). I can contact two long wires and it act like a button. Now, I have question regarding to RaspberryPI's GPIO, I want to hook up my remote control (with two wires) directly to Rpi's GPIO, will this work or does it required a relay? Is the RPI already have embedded relay?
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[4:40] <Opinie> anyone managed to compile canon drivers for rpi?
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[4:44] <Chillum> canon camera, printer?
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[4:45] <dfcnvt> Do I need a relay or can it insert directly to GPIO? http://imgur.com/v4jzQ5u
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[4:46] <giddles> https://github.com/prasmussen/gdrive#downloads <-- hm how could i reinstall this programme?
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[4:46] <giddles> is there a simple way?
[4:46] <giddles> just sudo rm it and -x
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[4:52] <Opinie> Chillum, nah ancient laser printer
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[4:55] <chipmadness> so has anyone been building neat things in here?!
[4:56] <Chillum> this --> http://images.highinbc.com/PiClusterDisplay.jpg
[4:56] <Chillum> general purpose cluster
[4:56] <Chillum> (in progress)
[4:57] <Opinie> erm, one of my pi's is running shairport and the rest of my machines shout lines from 2001 space odyssey to let me know, whether a given process has failed or been successful, does that count?
[4:57] <Opinie> *through it
[4:59] <giddles> hm no help?
[4:59] <Opinie> that wasn't so much neat as it was just to reduce time spent staring at screens
[4:59] <giddles> i must reinstall gdrive
[4:59] <giddles> have no clue about
[4:59] <giddles> :(
[4:59] <giddles> i need to setup it again
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[5:01] <dfcnvt> giddles: Your question is regarind to build issue. You can ask in #linux for help.
[5:02] <dfcnvt> s/regarind/regarding/
[5:02] <ttys0> at a glance, that gdrive thing looks like way more trouble than it's worth
[5:03] <giddles> no drive-linux-rpi works just fine
[5:03] <giddles> i got an token failure on some rpi
[5:03] <giddles> :/
[5:03] <giddles> i only need to find this token, delete it and acess again
[5:04] <Froolag> token of what? subway token?
[5:04] <giddles> no google drive auth
[5:04] <ttys0> heh, yeah, that's sorta what I meant by more trouble than it's worth ;)
[5:04] <giddles> dont knew whats exactly is
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[5:04] <giddles> 2 machines run fine
[5:04] <giddles> third do not accept
[5:05] <Froolag> clone the 2 good machines then.
[5:05] <ttys0> it might have nothing to do with the machines .. how many simultaneous connections are allowed per token?
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[5:07] <Opinie> I've like 5 machines running grive, including 1 or 2 pis, I think all of them use different tokens though
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[5:08] <giddles> yes
[5:08] <giddles> and i need a new one for one machine..
[5:08] <Opinie> just run the installation process again, it should prompt you to fetch a token, no?
[5:08] <giddles> https://github.com/prasmussen/gdrive#downloads <-- there is a -a
[5:08] <ttys0> don't you need a unique one for each machine?
[5:08] <giddles> how could i use it?
[5:09] <giddles> there is no installation process
[5:09] <giddles> ./
[5:09] <giddles> and i cant find /.gdrive
[5:09] <giddles> where the token should stay
[5:09] <ttys0> heh, and you want to keep trying to use this why?
[5:09] <giddles> no i want a new one, a reinstall
[5:09] <giddles> i dont knew
[5:09] <giddles> i want it work :D
[5:10] <ttys0> LOL
[5:10] <giddles> like the others
[5:10] <Opinie> try this, giddles: http://www.nburles.co.uk/raspberrypi/google-drive-on-the-raspberry-pi-using-grive
[5:10] <Froolag> what makes you think that the others are working?
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[5:10] <ttys0> oooh, good question
[5:10] <giddles> no i want drive-linux
[5:10] <nimtz> does raspi2 have wifi?
[5:11] <giddles> they upload it to gdam gdrive
[5:11] <giddles> that makes me think they work
[5:11] <Opinie> giddles, those instructions are for getting grive to work on linux
[5:11] <Opinie> rpi, to be exact
[5:11] <giddles> right
[5:12] <giddles> i got many rpi
[5:12] <Opinie> just repeat the process on all of them
[5:12] <giddles> i connected 3 now to rpi
[5:12] <giddles> the tird makes a 400 bad request
[5:12] <giddles> i need to get rid of /.gdrive
[5:12] <giddles> thats my problem
[5:13] <giddles> i reinstalled it and the data was still there
[5:13] <Opinie> well, rm -rf .grive then I guess
[5:13] <giddles> wheres /.grive destinated? or just fire it in?
[5:13] <Opinie> *.gdrive
[5:14] <Opinie> can you see it after firing in ls -a
[5:14] <giddles> ill check
[5:14] <giddles> yes
[5:14] <giddles> there is a blue .gdrive
[5:15] <Opinie> yeah, that means it's a folder
[5:15] <giddles> so sudo rm -rf .gdrive
[5:15] <giddles> ?
[5:15] <Opinie> if you want to get rid of that folder rm -rf .gdrive
[5:15] <Opinie> you probably won't need sudo
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[5:15] <giddles> tahnks
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[5:16] <Opinie> np
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[5:16] <giddles> so reboot and lets check
[5:17] <giddles> i must confirm it two times
[5:17] <Opinie> you shouldn't need to reboot, afaik, but go ahead
[5:17] <giddles> nah i stopped my programm where i need this in config..
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[5:19] <giddles> i run it on motion as cronjob
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[5:22] <giddles> hm
[5:22] <giddles> i get two tokens
[5:22] <giddles> i think theres the problem
[5:23] <Froolag> One for each network adapter.
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[5:24] <giddles> An error occurred creating Drive client: OAuthError: updateToken: Unexpected HTTP status 400 Bad Request
[5:24] <giddles> damn
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[5:27] <Froolag> is yer firewall blocking?
[5:28] <giddles> no
[5:28] <Opinie> giddles, are you trying to insert the same token on every pi?
[5:28] <giddles> no
[5:28] <giddles> hmm
[5:28] <giddles> wont work
[5:29] <giddles> quite crazy
[5:29] <giddles> it works when i simple upload something from shell
[5:29] <giddles> with the auto code token link... later im asked again, copy link and fire it in
[5:30] <giddles> 2 times it worked, this pi do not work
[5:30] <giddles> funny thing i start on it
[5:31] <Opinie> look at your history on the two pis, where you managed to get it working and compare, whether you're doing something differently now
[5:31] <giddles> there is no difference
[5:31] <giddles> hm
[5:31] <Opinie> get a token on some other machine and insert that to the pi you're trying to put grive on now
[5:32] <giddles> @reboot screen -S motion -dmS sudo motion is my crontab
[5:32] <giddles> there seems to be the cheesecake
[5:32] <Opinie> this is getting quite surreal
[5:32] <Opinie> cheesecake?
[5:32] <giddles> i expect problem there?
[5:33] <Opinie> when you say cheesecake the only thing that comes to my mind is the edible kind
[5:33] <giddles> :)
[5:34] <giddles> should i del again ./gdrive and after ending screenjob start it again as: "screen -S motion -dmS sudo motion" ?
[5:34] <Opinie> not a clue, what motion has to do with this
[5:35] <giddles> on the other machines i installed drive, fire auth code in.. start motion looked up and see: "auth code is needed" copy link paste and work..
[5:35] <Opinie> I think you should just stick to getting the grive working for now
[5:35] <giddles> it works fine on shell
[5:36] <giddles> but in motion he wants authcode again and there i stuck
[5:36] <giddles> then he get a new token and say 400 error
[5:36] <giddles> bad request
[5:36] <Froolag> it worked before you broke it.
[5:36] <giddles> no
[5:37] <Froolag> why don't you just copy the sd card of the machine that works?
[5:38] <giddles> hm dman
[5:38] <giddles> i see that everytime i get a new token
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[5:42] <Opinie> giddles, are you using just virtual terminal or are you booted into the GU?
[5:42] <Opinie> *GUI
[5:44] <giddles> ssh
[5:44] <giddles> no gui
[5:44] <giddles> hm
[5:45] <giddles> maybe i get a soultion
[5:45] <Opinie> the grive installation should open a browser terminal with the new token for the installation
[5:45] <giddles> right i open it on a windows machine
[5:45] <giddles> :)
[5:45] <Opinie> try vnc'ing to it
[5:45] <giddles> good idea or plug hdmi in and work from startx
[5:46] <giddles> i format it and set it clean up
[5:46] <giddles> but not today :)
[5:46] <Opinie> what?
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[5:47] <Opinie> why?
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[5:47] <giddles> maybe the problem is that this pi is a clone of my pi two @ sdcard i gues
[5:47] <giddles> maybe thats it
[5:47] <giddles> two os same runnin.. my last idea
[5:47] <Opinie> just configure it from raspi-config to boot to the graphical user interface
[5:47] <Opinie> then install x11vnc
[5:47] <Opinie> run it from ssh
[5:47] <Opinie> vnc to your pi
[5:48] <Opinie> run the grive installation via vnc
[5:48] <Opinie> should open browser as I suggested
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[5:51] <giddles> ok ill try
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[5:52] <giddles> but it worked on two others without a problem
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[5:54] <giddles> now i need some https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAQSZhazYk8 to relax..
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[6:28] <_puddle_> hi all, i was hoping someone could help with providing or helping to compile a driver for the realtek rtl8192eu chipset
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[6:31] <ttys0> isn't that in mainline now?
[6:33] <_puddle_> 8192cu is.. this is a new h/w revision
[6:33] <ttys0> ahhh
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[6:59] <atomi> clear
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[6:59] <atomi> weird my lan is slow on archlinux
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[7:07] <[Saint]> your /entire/ LAN? o_0
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[7:30] <tapout> anyone know when they're shipping more raspberry pi 2's
[7:30] <[Saint]> 42
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[7:36] <Anorion> "Soon�"
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[7:41] <ttys0> last I read, they're producing ~10,000 a day
[7:41] <SirLagz> [Saint]: hai
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[8:00] <ccolorado> Hi there I have been having some troubles with my rpi, right now it can't connect to the network but also its time is set to the 1970 epoch. I am following one thread about loading the rtc_ds1307 module, but I still get some discouraging messages, at this moment i am thinking it may be a hardware failure
[8:01] <Froolap> messages?
[8:01] <jamesd_> ccolorado: by default pi's have no timing chip you can set the time correctly by using ntpdate to a valid timeserver.
[8:01] <Froolap> I didn't get any messages.
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[8:02] <ccolorado> echo ds1307 0x68 > /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-1/new_device
[8:02] <ccolorado> I have to type them out since i have no network on the rpi
[8:03] <ccolorado> [dmesg timestamp] rtc-ds1307: probe of 1-0068 failed with error -5
[8:04] <ccolorado> [dmesg timestamp] i2c-1: new_device: Instantiated device ds1307 at 0x68
[8:05] <ccolorado> jamesd_: well i don't have network right now, so I cant rely on ntp, Hovere when doing a dhcp i notice there wasn't an ipv4 messages only ipv6
[8:06] <ccolorado> which is wierd since de rpi had been working for months
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[8:09] <ccolorado> When I boot up i can see those error -5 errors also . And despite loading/enabling the rtc-ds1307 module, the hwdclock still gives me an error message
[8:10] <ccolorado> acually what i do get on boot is pcm512x 1-004d: Failed to reset device: -5
[8:11] <ccolorado> not sure if it is related
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[8:15] <ccolorado> im suspecting that the clock has something to do with the network connection not working
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[8:17] <Bobbydigital420> mk_arcade_joystick_rpi
[8:17] <Bobbydigital420> oops
[8:18] <Bobbydigital420> anyone got that working on the 2.6 version of retropie?
[8:18] <Bobbydigital420> trying to get joysticks hooked upto the GPIO
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[8:44] <nsgn> alright, this is driving me nuts. someone recommended a tiny service manager type program for debian/raspbian a while back and i enjoyed it. let you turn on/off the services for X11, ALSA, networking, etc in the bootup process of the pi
[8:44] <nsgn> and i cant for the life of me remember or find it again
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[8:56] <ccolorado> turns out the two ethernet cables I tried wherent working FML
[8:58] <Froolap> FML?
[8:58] <Froolap> Four Mile Lawn?
[9:03] <nsgn> fat mamma larry
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[9:21] <bartolo> hi, to install noobs on the raspberry pi 2 there is a different procedure from the one indicated on the raspberry website?
[9:21] <bartolo> (different from this one http://www.raspberrypi.org/help/noobs-setup/(
[9:22] <bartolo> because if I follow this procedure the pi doesn't boot anything (or at least I didn't see anything on the screen)
[9:22] <ShorTie> don't think so, but why use noobs anyways .. :/~
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[9:23] <bartolo> i have to return the pi so I want to put on the sd noobs
[9:23] <bartolo> it was given to me with noobs so i think is fair to put back it
[9:23] <ShorTie> unzip the files to the sdcard
[9:23] <bartolo> yes i've done that but it doesn't work
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[9:24] <bartolo> i've tried both noobs "full" and noobs lite
[9:24] <bartolo> and both fat32 and fat16
[9:24] <ShorTie> did you download the latest ??
[9:24] <bartolo> yes
[9:24] <ShorTie> format sdcard with sdformatter ??
[9:25] <bartolo> i have linux so i've used: mkfs.vfat -F32 /dev/sdX
[9:25] <bartolo> or mkfs.vfat without -F32 to try fat16
[9:26] <bartolo> i've also tried to use a small partition (1GB) instead of the whole space
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[9:26] <ShorTie> try mkdosfs
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[9:28] <bartolo> mkdosfs is just a symbolic link to mkfs.vfat
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[9:28] <bartolo> ops to mkfs.fat
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[9:29] <ShorTie> ya, need fat not vfat
[9:31] <ShorTie> then you might have to go into fdisk and change type to 6 also
[9:31] <bartolo> ok thanks
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[9:32] <ShorTie> just formating doesn't set type and/or boot flag
[9:32] <bartolo> ok
[9:32] <Froolap> it should
[9:32] <ShorTie> doesn't for me
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[9:32] <bartolo> by default it should contain a single fat partition than take the whole space?
[9:32] <ShorTie> Yes
[9:33] <Froolap> I know that it doesn't, it never did. but the partition type should be set when you format, not when you create the partition.... But that's not how the world works.
[9:35] <ShorTie> fdisk -l /dev/sdX and see what it says about it
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[11:26] <bartolo> ShorTie: thanks now it boots correctly
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[12:47] <Jaeger2k> is it possible to convert GPIO.BOARD pin numbering to GPIO.BCM?
[12:47] <Jaeger2k> has the designated python module a function or table for this?
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[13:43] <Criminalised> Running kodi on my little beast
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[13:51] <shiftplusone> speaking of which, you can not apt-get install kodi without third party repos
[13:51] <shiftplusone> *now
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[14:15] <d3jake> How critical is it for X to have fonts installed?
[14:15] <d3jake> (Archlinux ARM
[14:16] <ShorTie> they make the warnings go away in the log
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[14:21] <d3jake> Ah. I ended up answering my own overall problem: I was trying to get X to run so I can remote into it, despite not having any ambition to connect it to a monitor. Come to find out VNC creates a virtual X session, which solves my problem.
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[14:25] <buZz> XVNC does
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[14:26] <d3jake> I now need to figure out how to run xfce, and remote into that.
[14:28] <buZz> DISPLAY=:0 xfce
[14:28] <buZz> or something
[14:29] <buZz> you probably first want to kill whatever window manager is running already
[14:29] <d3jake> Hm, so I have to shutdown vnc?
[14:29] <d3jake> Found it!
[14:29] <buZz> \o/
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[14:36] <willmore> Looks like there was some important stuff in the last day or so in the raspian depot. Does anyone know what all it was? libraspberrypi and raspberrypi-bootloader got updated.
[14:37] <d3jake> buZz: Got it!
[14:37] <d3jake> buZz: Do you know if I started the server with the boot of the device, then I can connect to it at any point? ANd now I know the answer to my question. Thank you for the help.
[14:38] <shiftplusone> willmore: nothing too important
[14:38] <shiftplusone> willmore: still the old version
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[14:39] <shiftplusone> willmore: an sd card image sent to element14 a while back was faulty, the /etc/fstab points to a wrong /boot. The new package has a preinst script to check that.
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[14:40] <willmore> shiftplusone, thank you!
[14:40] <shiftplusone> so for 99% of users, it will do nothing, for the people who use those card without re-writing them, it will (hopefully) fix fstab.
[14:40] * willmore gets nervous when he sees the bootloader getting messed with.
[14:40] <willmore> Yay!
[14:40] <buZz> d3jake: what? :D
[14:41] <shiftplusone> willmore: though if you're nervous, a quick heads up... it will be bumped soon.
[14:41] <willmore> shiftplusone, another change?
[14:41] <buZz> another day, another change
[14:41] <willmore> buZz, yep
[14:41] * ShorTie snickers
[14:42] * buZz twic
[14:42] <buZz> twix*
[14:43] <willmore> shiftplusone, FWIW, my "flakey with three different SD cards" Model B has now been stable with one of the 'failed' card since I did the socket re-enforcement mod--epoxied a bit of PCB to the back of the socket to strengthen it.
[14:43] <willmore> I know, one observation isn't data, but...
[14:44] <shiftplusone> yeah, that sounds right.
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[14:46] <pisto> hi. what's a good qemu command line to emulate the raspberry pi 2 B?
[14:46] * willmore is curious as well.
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[14:47] <shiftplusone> what are the cpus it reports as available?
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[14:47] <shiftplusone> If there's a cortex a7.... that.
[14:47] <shiftplusone> you'll need to get the kernel sorted though
[14:48] <shiftplusone> I'm sure the one on xecdesign.com won't work.
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[14:59] <d3jake> buZz: I figured out the problem I've been having for the last couple of days ion my Pi
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[15:00] <buZz> \o/
[15:00] <buZz> what?
[15:01] <d3jake> Trying to get xfce running so I could remote-desktop into it.
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[15:02] <pisto> shiftplusone, thanks. I suppose I won't need to care about the first-second stage bootloaders, but jump straight to kernel
[15:04] <Sonny_Jim> Just use x11vnc
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[15:04] <Sonny_Jim> It connects to an existing X11 session, makes it very easy
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[15:05] <buZz> Sonny_Jim: there isnt any
[15:05] <Sonny_Jim> startx& x11vnc
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[15:07] <shiftplusone> pisto: hm?
[15:08] <pisto> <shiftplusone> you'll need to get the kernel sorted though
[15:08] <shiftplusone> oh right, sorry... forgot the context.
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[15:09] <shiftplusone> yes qemu-blah-system has a -kernel parameter so you don't need to worry about using uboot or any of that
[15:10] <shiftplusone> Don't know how that works with device tree (maybe it doesn't), but you should be able to run without dt enabled anyway
[15:13] <pisto> unrelated, has anybody ever tried this? https://github.com/notro/fbtft_tools/wiki/gpio_keys_device
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[15:17] <grammoboy> how vulnerable is such a rpi board? Can I lay it on the carpet, on paper?
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[15:18] <giddles> well my rpi was falling down two times from 1.5metre cased and still work ;)...
[15:19] <shiftplusone> working on carpet in general is a bad idea, since you'll build up static. Paper is fine. Make sure there's nothing metal nearby.
[15:19] <giddles> i worked on my frist on carpet for days
[15:19] <giddles> no problem ;)
[15:20] <shiftplusone> yeah, it'll work fine, it's just not a good idea >_<
[15:20] <giddles> of cause
[15:21] <giddles> grammoboy get a case ;)
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[15:26] <Tenkawa> hi all.. whats new?
[15:26] <Anaphaxeton> i am trying to compile linux from a zip file from raspberrypi.com but i stumble on many files missing. like
[15:26] <Anaphaxeton> fs/btrfs/btrfs_inode.h:25:26: fatal error: ordered-data.h: No such file or directory
[15:27] <Anaphaxeton> and a couple more but this one it near the end
[15:27] <Anaphaxeton> is*
[15:27] <shiftplusone> there's too much wrong with what you're saying right off the bat. =S
[15:27] <shiftplusone> zip file from raspberrypi.com?
[15:27] <Anaphaxeton> .org
[15:27] <Anaphaxeton> even
[15:27] <shiftplusone> link?
[15:29] * Tenkawa really needs to find a usb power adapter with a decent amount of amperage heheh
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[15:29] <benny-> decent means?
[15:30] <Tenkawa> benny-: more than 1A unregulated
[15:30] <Tenkawa> thing is flaky as it can be
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[15:30] <Tenkawa> (my ps. not the pi)
[15:30] <Anaphaxeton> https://codeload.github.com/raspberrypi/linux/zip/rpi-3.18.y
[15:30] <benny-> uhm, tablet power adapters have ~2A output
[15:31] <benny-> but afaik regulated
[15:31] <buZz> not really
[15:31] <Anaphaxeton> this is the link i find in my dowload history
[15:31] <buZz> my tablet came with a 500mA one
[15:31] <benny-> mine with 2A
[15:31] <buZz> there is nothing 'tablet' about being a 2A regulator
[15:31] <benny-> asus nexus7
[15:31] <buZz> or viseversa
[15:31] <shiftplusone> so.... not raspberrypi.org, but github.
[15:31] <ppq> my samsung tab came with a 2.5 A usb psu
[15:31] <shiftplusone> which is good
[15:31] <buZz> benny-: 1 success case does not a generalization make
[15:31] <ppq> and a special cable
[15:32] <Anaphaxeton> i dint get there by mistake and didnt choose a random source
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[15:32] <benny-> i just said he should look at this corner
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[15:32] <shiftplusone> Haven't tried building with btrfs enabled, so can't say if that's a problem on your end or not
[15:33] <Anaphaxeton> it is some usb stuff and another one
[15:35] <Anaphaxeton> https://github.com/raspberrypi/ and it looks so legit!
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[15:36] <shiftplusone> yes, the actual source location is fine.. it's just that you said you got it from somewhere else at first (twice), so I wanted to make sure.
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[15:36] <benny-> try "find . | grep ordered-data.h" in the source dir
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[15:36] <benny-> could take a few moments ;)
[15:36] <Anaphaxeton> ok i got it from raspberipi(R)
[15:36] <Anaphaxeton> pft
[15:37] <Anaphaxeton> still wrong
[15:37] <benny-> maybe put the filename in quotes
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[15:44] <Hix> ouch! Anyone got any ideas? This just [another] corrupt card, or something more sinister? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=KwaDDPQv
[15:45] <benny-> out of mem?
[15:46] <Hix> haven't got a clue
[15:47] <buZz> sounds like out of mem yeah
[15:47] <Hix> software fault then
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[15:47] <buZz> ask the user that installed the software
[15:47] * Hix prepares to write [another] new image
[15:47] <buZz> maybe he forgot configuring
[15:48] <Hix> That would be me, though nothing new has been added
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[15:48] <benny-> did the system crash after the kernel oops?
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[16:34] <Tenkawa> Bilby: hey you around??
[16:35] <Bilby> No
[16:35] <Bilby> <_<
[16:35] <Tenkawa> haahaa
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[16:35] <Bilby> I wasn't but flagging my name made hexchat go HEY YOU GUYYYYYSSSS
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[16:36] <Tenkawa> my memory is messing with me.. did I ask you some handbrake/etc stuff recently?
[16:36] <Bilby> heck you might have, I don't know
[16:36] <Tenkawa> I'm trying to remember who I was working with to see if I coul multiplex it across machines
[16:37] <Bilby> Don't think that was me, that's a little beyond my rudimentary skills
[16:37] <Tenkawa> if any of you have any ideas how to multiplex ffmpeg/etc let me know
[16:37] <Tenkawa> Bilby: well thanks anyway though
[16:37] <baldpope> for encoding?
[16:37] <Tenkawa> baldpope: yes
[16:37] <Bilby> anytime ;) I've used handbrake et al, but only on one system
[16:37] <baldpope> hm
[16:37] <Tenkawa> I want to try to use multiple pi2's for encoding
[16:38] <Tenkawa> not just one
[16:38] <baldpope> nice idea
[16:38] <Tenkawa> if its theoreticky possible
[16:38] <Tenkawa> er theoreticly
[16:38] <baldpope> haven't played with multiple systems doing anything like that
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[16:38] <Tenkawa> ah
[16:39] <baldpope> most I did was setup beowulf across a half-dozen or so p3's for mp3 encoding
[16:39] <baldpope> but that was more for play
[16:39] <Tenkawa> now that I have some of the tweaks in place for the pi2's voltage/amperage handling now I can push them harder
[16:39] <Tenkawa> baldpope: nice
[16:39] <baldpope> and I don't think they shared the load - more like each had their own task
[16:39] <baldpope> but that was like 10year ago can't remember exactly how it worked
[16:39] <Tenkawa> haahaaa
[16:40] <Tenkawa> I hear ya
[16:40] <baldpope> check out beowulf ffmpeg - see if that nets you anything
[16:40] <Tenkawa> will do.. thanks
[16:40] <baldpope> setting up a cluster of pi's should be doable
[16:40] <Bilby> Tenkawa any particular reason you want to use Pis? It sounds neat but not necessarily advantageous
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[16:41] <Tenkawa> Bilby: Its what I'm targetting/using and I only have one x86 left to decommission
[16:42] <Tenkawa> and that x86 is my encoding box
[16:42] <Bilby> ah!
[16:42] <Tenkawa> if I can replace it I'm 100% finished heheheh
[16:42] <Bilby> One of my business PBX systems is running on a Pi2 haha
[16:42] <Tenkawa> nice...
[16:43] <Bilby> the 2 is fast enough to become just a good server. If it had decent speed IO (usb 3.0, gigabit, esata) I'd be pretty much selling just it to clients for SMB servers haha
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[16:43] <Tenkawa> heeheh
[16:43] <baldpope> i'm interested in reading flow and temperature with a pi - but alot of what I just searched for indicated using arduino or i2c sensors - which seem a bit overkill - anything better to read temp, and gpm ?
[16:43] <Tenkawa> yeah I want to try to get pi/beaglebone/odroid's more used in the midohio area
[16:44] <Tenkawa> i'd like to find somewhere to try to implement them on a large scale
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[16:45] <Tenkawa> baldpope: arent the i2c sensors fairly simple in design?
[16:45] <Tenkawa> the ones I've seen at my local microcenter seem to be
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[16:46] <Tenkawa> or is the programming/interfacing the problem?
[16:46] <baldpope> i'm literally just starting in idea phase
[16:46] <baldpope> i was thinking something like the 2 wire temp probe
[16:46] <Tenkawa> ahhh
[16:46] <baldpope> not sure if those are readable by the gpio pins or not
[16:47] <baldpope> and I'm a cheap bastard who hates throwing money in the wrong direction
[16:47] <benny-> you can use i2c at the pi
[16:47] <benny-> at/with
[16:47] * Bilby suspects Tenkawa may be living somewhat close to him
[16:47] <Tenkawa> Bilby: oh really?
[16:47] <Tenkawa> westerville area here
[16:48] <Tenkawa> if you know midohio
[16:48] <Bilby> hah! Hilliard / Dublin
[16:48] <Tenkawa> hehehehe
[16:48] <Tenkawa> haahaa
[16:48] <Tenkawa> yep
[16:48] <Bilby> Small damned world :P
[16:48] <Tenkawa> indeed
[16:48] <Tenkawa> I was over there yesterday
[16:48] <Bilby> Yeah, microcenter is like 10 minutes from me... a lil too close for my wallet's comfort
[16:48] <Tenkawa> yep
[16:48] <benny-> lol
[16:49] <Tenkawa> hell... westerville is too close for my wallets comfort
[16:49] <Bilby> Verily
[16:49] <Bilby> Do you drink?
[16:49] <Tenkawa> I was there yesterday too
[16:49] <Tenkawa> Bilby: nope.. finfd out very young i was alaergic
[16:49] <Tenkawa> er allergic
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[16:50] <Tenkawa> made medications difficult
[16:51] <Bilby> Alcohol itself or hops?
[16:51] <Bilby> Was gonna invite you to my bar :P
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[16:51] <Tenkawa> not really sure.. I think it was the alcohol nd some kind of reaction
[16:52] <Bilby> Ah, no worries
[16:52] <Tenkawa> Bilby: thanks though
[16:52] <benny-> make a teaparty^^ :p
[16:52] <benny-> like a sir
[16:52] <Bilby> I'm philisophical about it, you can drink or you can not drink. It's not a religon or anything :P
[16:52] <Bilby> haha
[16:52] <Bilby> We can have a raspi nerd party
[16:52] <Tenkawa> Bilby: what I am trying to determine is why we have no geeky/hobbyist computer groups around here
[16:52] <Bilby> go to that little tea shop next to microcenter. Their pastries are amazing
[16:52] <Bilby> There's the hackerspace thingie
[16:52] <Tenkawa> oh yeah!!
[16:53] <Tenkawa> that place is nice
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[16:53] <Bilby> Probably hobby groups are a bit suppressed because a lot of the energy that would go to them ends up going to groups at OSU and such
[16:53] <Tenkawa> tea is amazing
[16:53] <Tenkawa> Bilby: good point
[16:53] <Tenkawa> Bilby: you been here long?
[16:53] <Bilby> I tend to get their green tea latte. Not because their other tea isn't amazing but because it smells like a fress-mowed lawn
[16:54] * Tenkawa has been here almost 20 years
[16:54] <Tenkawa> the dyi computer hobbyist groups were a lotlarger then around here
[16:54] <Bilby> Most recent move to cbus was ~4 years ago but I lived here before and grew up northeast of cbus
[16:54] <Bilby> True
[16:54] <Bilby> once again i'm so angry at how bad RadioShack missed the ball. Could have been lil hobby groups based around every one of them but noooooo
[16:55] <Tenkawa> yep!!
[16:55] <Bilby> I moved to Ohio in, err... '93? Yeah
[16:55] <Tenkawa> then again I've seen so many shope come and go here its been sad
[16:55] <Tenkawa> er shops
[16:55] <Bilby> Halloween '93. It was blizzarding when we got into the state lol
[16:55] <Bilby> yeah
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[16:56] <Bilby> Microcenter is okay. They have good customer service and decent prices. Their internal employee / management stuff is kinda crap (my SO worked there for a while) but what are you going to do
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[16:56] <Tenkawa> wonder how long that comp store beside microcenter will hold up
[16:56] <Bilby> It's gone as far as I know
[16:56] <Tenkawa> oh
[16:56] <Bilby> Computer Sucess / Computer Express was there for a long time
[16:56] <Tenkawa> hadnt even noticed
[16:56] <Tenkawa> yeah
[16:56] <Tenkawa> that one
[16:56] <Tenkawa> ouch
[16:56] <Bilby> it was one of those places where you -could- get a decent price on used parts and it was about the onlny place to get discontinued ram and other components
[16:56] <Bilby> but a lot of their pricing was just crazy high... like $4.99 for an ATX power cable :(
[16:57] <Tenkawa> ah
[16:57] <Bilby> When they had a huge box of them and I've personally thrown out boxes and boxes of them
[16:57] <Tenkawa> since I'm almmost dedicated to non-x86 platforms, even microcenter is barely enough
[16:57] <Bilby> I have a small consulting business and we're thinking about going into a similar setup but without the storefront at the moment
[16:58] <Bilby> yeah, but it's at least something haha... lots of places there's nothing at all, especially after RS went
[16:58] <Tenkawa> I wish I could get more variety there
[16:58] <Tenkawa> true
[16:58] <Tenkawa> their rpi selection is amazing
[16:58] <Tenkawa> notice they arw building quite the maker area too?
[16:58] <Bilby> I like that they have house-brand versions of a lot of parts - got an arduino uno clone there for $10
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[17:00] <Bilby> Darn it i've been talking about it too long, now I might have to go over there haha
[17:00] <Tenkawa> haahaaa
[17:00] <Bilby> I don't know if you're familiar with it but there's also Electronics Supply Company over on Morse and Indianola
[17:00] <Tenkawa> no..
[17:00] <Tenkawa> ooh.. writing that down
[17:00] <Bilby> it's a traditional electonics places, very old school
[17:00] <Tenkawa> thanks
[17:00] <Tenkawa> thats what I want to go see
[17:01] <Bilby> They don't have arduino or raspi stuff but they do have some CPLDs and a lot of discrete logic chips, plus tons of standard electronics parts (resistors, caps, etc) That's where I go when i need -a- part or parts immediately
[17:01] <Bilby> http://esco-ohio.com/
[17:01] <Bilby> and that page has been "under construction" for at least 2 years...
[17:01] <Tenkawa> good.. maybe they'll have unmouted flat leds
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[17:02] <Tenkawa> I picked up this led lantern and now its given me a lot of project ideas
[17:02] <Bilby> I really need a USB-UART adapter that does 3.3v and 5v :/
[17:02] <Tenkawa> but I need those square leds
[17:02] <Bilby> SMD?
[17:02] <Tenkawa> yeah
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[17:03] <Tenkawa> cant get those at mc can i?
[17:03] <Tenkawa> those things have amazing power/lumen ratios
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[17:04] <Tenkawa> at least the ones I got
[17:04] <Bilby> haha for sure
[17:04] <benny-> afaik those FTDI Chips support both
[17:04] <Tenkawa> nice
[17:04] <benny-> but i'm not sure if you can set them by software
[17:05] <Tenkawa> omg 11 already?????
[17:05] <Tenkawa> yikes
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[17:05] <Tenkawa> at least its sunny!!!!!!
[17:05] <Tenkawa> Bilby: you know the crazyness I'm referencing heheeh
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[17:06] <Tenkawa> Any of you used one of those dual usb cables with a cd/dvd and a rpi?
[17:07] <Tenkawa> do they supply enough current>
[17:07] <Tenkawa> ?
[17:07] <Tenkawa> without confusing the usb bus?
[17:08] <Bilby> Tenkawa yeah. last night i drove home from newark and hit alternating bands of wind / snow / sleet / rain XD
[17:08] <Tenkawa> yep
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[17:08] <Tenkawa> this weather is just well... normal
[17:08] <Tenkawa> haahaahaa
[17:08] <Bilby> I wouln't... hypothetically yes, but since it's all drawing from the Pi's bus it doesn't really matter if you're using the dual cable
[17:08] <Bilby> I'd throw a powered hub on there
[17:08] <Tenkawa> I'm from the ark/la border originally so we didnt have this weird weather
[17:09] <Tenkawa> Bilby: I tried.. it still doesnt seem to work with the powered hub
[17:09] <Tenkawa> loses connection almost immediatelt
[17:09] <Tenkawa> er immediately
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[17:10] <Bilby> huh. known-good hub? you might have to build a power bypass for it
[17:10] <Tenkawa> yeah thats what I'm worried about too
[17:10] <Tenkawa> I'll try some experiments this evening
[17:10] <Bilby> Optical -> hub -> Pi didn't work? weird. have you tested Optical -> Pi yet?
[17:11] <Tenkawa> optical?
[17:11] <Tenkawa> usb - hub - pi
[17:11] <Tenkawa> just a computer usb dvd player
[17:12] <Tenkawa> nothing special
[17:12] <Bilby> optical drive
[17:12] <Tenkawa> ahh
[17:12] <Tenkawa> doh
[17:12] <Tenkawa> brain not worling
[17:12] <Tenkawa> yeah
[17:12] <Bilby> is it one made for a laptop, like a slimline?
[17:12] <Bilby> or a regular 5.25" desktop drive on a USB adapter
[17:13] <Tenkawa> neither... externakl lg usb dvd burner
[17:13] <Tenkawa> thing one though
[17:13] <Tenkawa> no 5v plu slot on it either for backup power... just the isb port
[17:13] <Tenkawa> plu/plug
[17:13] <Tenkawa> uggh my typing is bad
[17:13] <Tenkawa> isb/usb
[17:14] <Tenkawa> sun is getting in my eyes
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[17:14] <Bilby> Yeah you'd need to either open the case and install a plug, or build a USB adapter dongle
[17:14] <Tenkawa> thought so..
[17:14] <Tenkawa> ok.. plan b
[17:14] <Tenkawa> heheheeh
[17:15] <Bilby> basically usb A male on one end, A female on the other. Data pins and ground go through, +5v comes from another power supply
[17:15] <Tenkawa> timwe to get an iron out
[17:15] <Tenkawa> heheeh
[17:15] <Bilby> lol
[17:15] <Bilby> do you have a way to measure current @ 5v?
[17:15] <Tenkawa> yeah
[17:15] <Tenkawa> got a decent meter
[17:16] <Tenkawa> going to get a better one soon I think
[17:16] <Tenkawa> bbiaf .. need lunch ...
[17:16] <Tenkawa> no wonder I got hungry
[17:16] <Bilby> You can measure current off of the optical drive and figure it out that way
[17:16] <Bilby> np
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[17:16] <Tenkawa> didnt realize it was 11 already
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[17:17] <Tenkawa> nice
[17:17] <Tenkawa> good luck
[17:17] <Tenkawa> thanks for the help too
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[17:19] <Bilby> Welcome! Talk to you later. We need to have tea sometime ;)
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[17:28] <pvl1> how would i detect Pi when compiling, is there a preprocessor macro
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[17:35] <d3jake> tea... yummm.... mint tea
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[17:37] <shiftplusone> pvl1: depends on what you're actually checking for.
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[17:40] <heller\> can someone give some advice with gerber files, eagle and itead?
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[17:41] <shiftplusone> ##electronics would be a good place to ask
[17:41] <shiftplusone> but ask the actual question, don't ask irrelevant stuff before asking.
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[17:48] <Bilby> shiftplusone IRC newbies haha
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[17:48] <Bilby> I suppose it seems less rude than just busting in a room and shouting
[17:48] <shiftplusone> yeah
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[17:58] <chris_99> LOUD NOISES
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[17:59] <Bilby> GLAYVEN
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[18:02] <chris_99> random question, has anyone used 1-wire sensors via the pi, and found weird glitches in temperature
[18:02] <chris_99> when reading the temp values
[18:02] <buZz> i have used DS18B20 with arduino and found 'weird glitches'
[18:02] <buZz> the ones that are documented in the datasheet ;)
[18:02] <chris_99> ah yeah they're the ones i mean
[18:03] <Froolap> I don't even know how to read the temp
[18:03] <chris_99> documented? as what
[18:03] <SpeedEvil> have you read 'building reliable 1-wire networks'
[18:03] <SpeedEvil> - how long is your wire
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[18:03] <buZz> 'when failing to read temp, it will output X celcius'
[18:03] <buZz> etc
[18:03] <chris_99> i'm not using parasitic power, and the wires are short
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[18:03] <buZz> 85C iirc?
[18:03] <chris_99> no it's more like -0.018
[18:03] <Tenkawa> good luch :)
[18:03] <Tenkawa> er lunch
[18:04] <buZz> also, they get cranky , when you use non-parasitic models as parasitic, and vice versa
[18:04] <Tenkawa> did I miss anything?
[18:04] <shadeslayer> ShorTie: yay, my scripts work
[18:04] <shadeslayer> ShorTie: now you can just spit out a tarball using live-build and the script turns it into a image :)
[18:04] <shadeslayer> so convinient
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[18:05] <Tenkawa> so sunny.. so nice....'
[18:06] <Tenkawa> yay!!
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[18:08] <Tenkawa> brb.. usb test
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[18:14] <BetaSoul> Hello internet peoples!
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[18:15] <Bilby> shh
[18:15] <BetaSoul> Sorry.
[18:15] <Bilby> here's the test. take a seat in the back of the room
[18:16] <Bilby> you have 60 minutes to complete. aaaaand start.
[18:16] * BetaSoul gets out a number 2 pencil.
[18:17] <BetaSoul> Any one running the FLIRC cases on a rP2 that's been overclocked? I'm trying to find out if any one has seen any thermal buckling or anything like that.
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[18:17] <Bilby> no, but i would be shocked to find out there was. Even running full bore there shouldn't be enough heat to do that
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[18:19] <BetaSoul> I didn't think there would be, but I worry. I really want hte anid�e case, but I can't find any one who has it in stock.
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[18:20] * nerdboy had a pair of 2's waiting upon return from elc
[18:20] <BetaSoul> Return for....?
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[18:23] <BetaSoul> Wish there was a minitux case for it.
[18:24] * Tenkawa wishes he could find a multi-pi case at all
[18:24] * Tenkawa would like to stack all his pi's up together
[18:24] <steve_rox> multi pi case? like shove many in one case?
[18:24] <Tenkawa> yes
[18:24] <nerdboy> they came while i was gone
[18:24] <steve_rox> custom build job i spose
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[18:24] <Tenkawa> instead of having a bunch of seperate ones
[18:24] <Tenkawa> steve_rox: yeah I assume so too
[18:24] <nerdboy> the cheapie plastic one for B+/2 ?
[18:24] <steve_rox> could get some perspex and make something
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[18:25] <Tenkawa> hehehe
[18:25] <nerdboy> check thingiverse yet?
[18:26] <BetaSoul> There aren't any decent racks on there.
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[18:30] <Bilby> especially with the + models and the 2 it should be easy enough to build a decent case out of aluminum and perspex
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[18:37] <Bilby> back later. Conned someone into meeting me for lunch and giving me a ride to microcenter :D
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[19:54] <anunnaki> hello. is kodi on raspbian similar to being on xbian, raspbmc/osmc, openlec? like can i still use add-ons such as the video add-ons.. disclose.tv, al jazeera network etc..
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[20:10] <pvl1> shiftplusone: basically, idont want different code for my Pi and laptop. ui debugging or whatever can be done on laptop. but GPIO testing needs to be done on the Pi
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[20:12] <shiftplusone> pvl1, then I'd add a -Dwhatever in the build system depending on the target and have #ifdef whatever in the code.
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[20:14] <shiftplusone> or do it based on the arch, but that assumes you're either using the same gpio library/interface on all ARM boards or only intend to run it on the pi
[20:14] <pvl1> shiftplusone: i was thinking about doing it the latter example. didnt know about the first
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[20:15] <pvl1> i think for now its safe to assume we're sticking to RPI, but i figured there would be like. #ifdef __raspberrypi__
[20:15] <pvl1> or something
[20:16] <pvl1> as in, already existing in the system, without me defining it
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[20:23] <nerdboy> https://lwn.net/Articles/635289/ <= mnetioned rpi once or twice in there
[20:23] <nerdboy> *mentioned even
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[20:34] <shiftplusone> wow... impressive how they could get as much wrong as they did
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[20:37] <ali1234> such as?
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[20:38] * Bilby returns from microcenter with loot
[20:38] <muriani> loooooooot
[20:39] <muriani> I got loot at the local ham radio festival
[20:39] <Bilby> nice
[20:39] <Bilby> i'm aiming to get to Hamvention this year
[20:39] <shiftplusone> Pi is not advertised as open, to start with.
[20:40] <shiftplusone> And an open driver is indeed available.
[20:41] <ali1234> that's just down to bad writing
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[20:41] <ali1234> "users may also want to look at the Weston for Raspberry Pi work that can take advantage of the GPU's hardware video scaler... there is one other GPU family available, the Adreno, which has a free-software driver project"
[20:41] <ali1234> pretty sure this means raspberry pi and adreno have open drivers
[20:41] <ali1234> it's difficult to tell though, due to as i said, bad writing
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[20:42] <muriani> freedreno is not in a good state atm iirc
[20:42] <shiftplusone> nope, the wayland stuff is not related to anholt's driver, afaik.
[20:42] <ali1234> right, the weston stuff uses dispmanx
[20:42] <ali1234> it's rather badly affected by the surface limit
[20:42] <ali1234> and it only works with weston, not anything else that uses wayland - although that's due to the way wayland is designed
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[20:43] <shiftplusone> wouldn't call stuff that used dispmanx open though, since it's mostly the firmware doing the work.
[20:43] <ali1234> yes, i agree
[20:43] <shiftplusone> whereas anholt's stuff actually tickles the registers.
[20:43] <ali1234> but this article is written by a guy who watched a talk, and perhaps didn't understand what the person was saying, or sumarized it badly
[20:43] <shiftplusone> fair enough
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[20:44] <ali1234> they do at least say raspi is easiest to work with. which i agree with
[20:44] <ali1234> and the stuff about brittle kernels... that applies to basically everything except raspi
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[20:49] <Sonny_Jim> brittle kernels?
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[20:50] <nfk> [21:40] <shiftplusone> And an open driver is indeed available. // what about open bootloader
[20:50] <nfk> ?
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[20:52] <ali1234> Sonny_Jim: kernels with huge diffs from mainline, that fail if you change any config options or use anything but the exact same compiler the vendor used, and which are never updated
[20:52] <Sonny_Jim> Ah ok
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[20:52] <shiftplusone> nfk, Yes, fully granted that that's proprietary stuff. The article isn't talking about that though.
[20:52] <Sonny_Jim> Even when I used to mess around with Linux on the DS, I could enable pretty much any kernel modules/config I wanted without too many issues
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[20:53] <Sonny_Jim> So never really run into 'brittle kernel'
[20:53] <ali1234> Sonny_Jim: i'd imagine that was not a vendor supplied kernel though
[20:53] <buZz> Nintendo DS \o/
[20:53] <Sonny_Jim> Of course not
[20:53] <buZz> i think i have code in DSlinux
[20:53] <buZz> not sure
[20:53] <Sonny_Jim> I did quite a bit of porting
[20:53] <Sonny_Jim> Most of the rc scripts iirc
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[20:58] <nfk> ali1234, does that brittle stuff really apply to say beaglebone black or that credit card PC on Exynos SoC base?
[20:59] <ali1234> i haven't used either of those so i don't know
[20:59] <ali1234> it does however apply to basically every android phone ever made
[20:59] <nfk> oh, odroid
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[21:00] <ali1234> the thing is it's usually not up to the people making the board. t's up to the people making the SoC
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[21:08] <Bilby> sweweeet. FTDI chip is exactly what 9 jeeded
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[21:09] <Sonny_Jim> Just watch out for those bricking windows drivers ;-)
[21:09] <benny-> they got removed
[21:09] <benny-> by ftdi
[21:10] <ali1234> also linux can trivially repair bricked devices anyway
[21:10] <nfk> i wonder why, surely they aren't afraid of lawsuits
[21:10] <Froolad> what is it?
[21:11] <ali1234> Froolad: a lot of people make fake FTDI chips so FTDI exploited a bug in the fakes to break them
[21:11] <Bilby> Hopefully it's legit, i bought it from microcenter :/
[21:11] <Bilby> but it lets me talk to the ESP8266 properly which is what i need
[21:12] <benny-> maybe cause people got angry about ftdi, and the customers didn't knew they bought fakes
[21:12] <benny-> it was a bad move of ftdi to blame the customer
[21:12] <ali1234> yes, the worst part is you cannot even buy the chips directly from FTDI so you have know way of knowing if you are buying fakes or not
[21:12] <nfk> btw, should i leave my raspberry pi b+ running or shut it own when not in use?
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[21:13] <benny-> why should it run when it's not in use?
[21:13] <nfk> i'm kinda worried about wearing out the smartphone sharger
[21:13] <nfk> *charger
[21:13] <Bilby> haha
[21:13] <Bilby> you're fine to leave it running or to take it down. I've had one sitting on my desk running for weeks with no problem
[21:13] <nfk> that's not very reassuring
[21:14] <nfk> a proper computer can run for years
[21:14] <Bilby> I'm not sure who's had the longest uptime so far, they're fun to play with so people tend to experiment
[21:14] <nfk> also, it seems that WiFi likes to take a deep sleep when not in use for a while
[21:14] <Bilby> I stuck ~ 14 of them on walls last fall and haven't rebooted any so far, so it's just been when the power was out
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[21:14] <nfk> damn annoying having to ping it for like a minute before it starts responding and accepting ssh connections
[21:15] <Froolad> what are FTDI chips?
[21:15] <Sonny_Jim> There's a case to be made that the cooling down/heating up cycle will damage the charger more than just leaving it on. It's not like it has any moving parts
[21:15] <nfk> Bilby, isn't it bad for the FS to leave them without power?
[21:15] <ali1234> Froolad: USB to serial converters mainly
[21:15] <Bilby> Froolad they're a very popular company that makes usb to serial converters
[21:15] <Froolad> ahhhhh
[21:16] <Bilby> nfk FS?
[21:16] <ali1234> the chips are used in many other devices too, they make USB to parallel/gpio chips as well
[21:16] <nfk> the other common way is usb cdc acm
[21:16] <Sonny_Jim> I wouldn't say they are popular now ;-) The USB to serial chip was very popular though
[21:16] <Froolad> I have one of those, never used it.
[21:16] <nfk> which can and is used to emulate rs-323 over usb
[21:16] <nfk> err
[21:16] <nfk> rs-232
[21:16] <Bilby> This is what i bought http://www.microcenter.com/product/432350/FTDI_Adapter_USB_Controller
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[21:17] <nfk> the third option that i got stuck with last year was god forbidden chinese chip for printers that somehow had found it's way in some non-official arduino nano's
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[21:17] <Froolad> At least not on the pi, I have a usb to serial interface for programming my tv remote.
[21:17] <nfk> ch340 or ch341, iirc
[21:18] * ozzzy has his image gallery running on the pi LOL
[21:18] <Bilby> ozzzy nice
[21:18] <Chillum> running a bitcoin node on my pi2
[21:18] <buZz> yay bitcoin
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[21:18] <Bilby> Froolad i actually tested this on the pi and it worked well, but i dind't want to have to deal with the python version of the firmware flasher
[21:18] <Chillum> it took about a week to catch up but is running fine now
[21:18] <nfk> Chillum, does it actually make sense to do that?
[21:19] <buZz> Chillum: did you see most amazing bitcoin news of today?
[21:19] <Chillum> the dumb cops?
[21:19] <buZz> a week? you should upgrade, 0.10 syncs MUCH faster
[21:19] <Chillum> nfk: why not?
[21:19] <buZz> yeah the cops that stole 1M usd each
[21:19] <buZz> from exchanges, people, silkroad, anyone
[21:19] <nfk> Chillum, doesn't minting those require some crazy rig?
[21:19] <Chillum> it is 0.10, it is slow because it is using a usb stick for a hard drive
[21:19] <buZz> even impersonated sellers on silkroad
[21:19] <Chillum> not mining
[21:19] <buZz> Chillum: ah k
[21:19] <Chillum> just a full node/wallet
[21:19] <buZz> nfk: i have a pi mining
[21:20] <buZz> 48mhs scrypt :3
[21:20] <nfk> mhs?
[21:20] <Chillum> using another pi to read the blockchain from the first pi and keep a redis database of every balance of every address
[21:20] <buZz> pi running mining software, asics attached to usb
[21:20] <buZz> megahash/second
[21:20] <buZz> Chillum: ooo nice
[21:20] <buZz> i'm using the addrindex patch for that
[21:20] <Chillum> ya my terahash miner used a rpi to handle its asics
[21:20] <buZz> Chillum: https://github.com/btcdrak/bitcoin/releases/tag/addrindex-0.10.0
[21:20] <Chillum> ended up selling it
[21:21] <buZz> flatfee power makes mining fun
[21:21] <Froolad> I should get a pi for irc.
[21:21] <Bilby> Froolad that's actually a really good idea, a dedicated IRC box
[21:21] <Chillum> buZz: What is that?
[21:21] <Bilby> i always run out of space on my systems (like i am now, IRC is squeezed in a ltitle window)
[21:21] <Froolad> as long as I can run wine for subspace.
[21:21] <nfk> you should get a life instead of irc'ing more
[21:22] <shiftplusone> Don't listen to him. Life is overrated.
[21:22] <nfk> Bilby, welcome to the world of a real window manager and a decent screen
[21:22] <buZz> Chillum: thats a patch to normal bitcoin client which lets me see transactions on any arbitrary address
[21:22] <Chillum> oh that is nice
[21:22] <Chillum> is it fast?
[21:22] <Chillum> use a lot of ram?
[21:23] <buZz> it took ~2x longer to sync
[21:23] <buZz> but uses similar memory
[21:23] <Froolad> it's all I have left
[21:23] <buZz> and reads the index within a second
[21:23] <Bilby> I don't need a real window manager, I got Windows 3.1 and that's good enough for me!
[21:23] <Chillum> impressive
[21:23] * Bilby has 3 screens and is out of room :/
[21:23] <buZz> Chillum: oh but i dont have it running on a pi though
[21:23] <Chillum> with redis I can check about 5 addresses per millisecond on a pi
[21:23] <buZz> c2d 3ghz with 8gb ram .. fast disk
[21:24] <Chillum> but i can use that patch to get the info I need to populate redis, instead of playing the blocks from 1
[21:24] <buZz> my thats fast
[21:24] <buZz> yeah possibly
[21:24] <Chillum> redis == ludicrous speed
[21:24] <Froolad> windows 3.1 bahhhh desqview was better.
[21:24] <buZz> gimme a address, i'll show you what it reaps
[21:24] <buZz> oh right
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[21:24] <buZz> you want to know addresses in the chain
[21:24] <Chillum> buZz: 1CHiLLUm1p2CzQrDPB1Tgs3t3jVbuBH1y3
[21:24] <buZz> hmm
[21:24] <Bilby> Froolad DOSSHELL 4 lyfe
[21:24] <buZz> not sure if i can just open the index
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[21:27] <buZz> Chillum: http://hastebin.com/lilipehudi.apache
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[21:28] <buZz> that takes me 0.05secs to run
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[21:28] <buZz> Chillum: but your solution might be a better route though .. hmm
[21:29] <Chillum> super useful thanks
[21:29] <Chillum> I may use something like that but with a redis caching layer on top
[21:30] <buZz> yw, i just learned of its existance a couple days ago :P
[21:30] <Chillum> Ideally I would write a patch the bitcoind that directly wrote to redis
[21:31] <Chillum> that may not be too difficult
[21:31] <buZz> the more i mess around with bitcoind , the more i feel writing a client should be a lot easier :P
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[21:40] <Tenkawa> hi all
[21:40] <buZz> Chillum: feel free to nag me later about it if you make something with the addrindex -> redis
[21:40] <Chillum> yes
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[21:42] <Bilby> how in the world did i make it this long without installing java on this system... makes no sense lol
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[21:43] <Tenkawa> Bilby: meh who needs java
[21:43] <Tenkawa> haahaahaa
[21:43] <Froolad> I do, I do
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[21:43] <Tenkawa> I use to develop in it.. many eons ago
[21:43] <Bilby> Well, i need to run java software
[21:43] <Tenkawa> that and corba
[21:44] <Tenkawa> then again I also did assembly at one time too
[21:44] <Froolad> I can't play cards online without java
[21:44] <Tenkawa> Froolad: heheheh
[21:44] <Froolad> That's important to me.
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[21:46] <Tenkawa> anyone trued hooking up a blueray drive to an rpi2?
[21:47] <Tenkawa> er tried
[21:47] <Bilby> oh swee,t it's talking
[21:47] <Bilby> progress is best
[21:47] <Tenkawa> Bilby: building something neat?
[21:47] <Tenkawa> I take it you found something at mc?
[21:49] <Bilby> I got a USB - RS232 adapter finally
[21:49] <Bilby> getting the ESP8266 i've had for a month running
[21:49] <Tenkawa> ahhhh
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[21:52] <Bilby> > =wifi.sta.getip()
[21:52] <Bilby> 192.168.1.222 255.255.255.0 192.168.1.1
[21:52] <Bilby> never been so happy to see crap like that lol
[21:53] <Tenkawa> heheheheh
[21:53] <Tenkawa> I saw something in mc yesterday that was intriguing
[21:53] <Froolad> what's that?
[21:53] <Tenkawa> led light bulb that was also a wifi extender
[21:53] <Tenkawa> heheheh
[21:54] <Tenkawa> novel idea for large buildings
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[21:54] <Froolad> mc????
[21:55] <Froolad> midnight commander?
[21:55] <Encrypt> Ethernet for the win! \o/
[21:56] <Tenkawa> Froolad: microcenter
[21:56] <Froolad> url?
[21:56] <Tenkawa> microcenter.com
[21:56] <Tenkawa> computer store
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[21:57] <Froolad> I don't have one.
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[21:58] <Tenkawa> I really wanted to decomm that last x86 box
[21:58] <Tenkawa> oops
[21:58] <Tenkawa> sorry
[21:58] <Bilby> Tenkawa yeah those lightbulb as wifi thingies have been out for a while
[21:58] <Bilby> neat idea
[21:59] <Tenkawa> oh.. hadnt noticed it before
[21:59] <Tenkawa> I'm still really liking the solar cell led laterns
[21:59] <Tenkawa> those are nice
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[22:06] <Tenkawa> wow its getting windy here
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[22:10] <Tenkawa> is there a sysctl/proc/etc trigger to turn off the eth port on the pi2 without a kernel recompile?
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[22:10] <Tenkawa> i dont want the usb bus to even acknowledge it
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[22:12] <Jusii> haven't really used kernel provided, is it compiled in kernel?
[22:12] <Tenkawa> yes
[22:12] <ali1234> Tenkawa: you should be able to do that through /sys
[22:12] <Jusii> ok
[22:12] <Tenkawa> ali1234: yeah,, getting ready to find the smsc sections in /sys
[22:12] <Tenkawa> just wondered if anyone knew from memory
[22:13] <ali1234> you should be able to turn off the port it is attached to
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[22:13] <ali1234> but only after boot up
[22:14] <Tenkawa> hmmm
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[22:15] <Tenkawa> since I dont use ethernt at all I just wanted the whole device out
[22:16] <Tenkawa> without a recompile heheh
[22:16] <Tenkawa> if I have to I'll recompile
[22:16] <TheLostAdmin> audit requirement, Tenkawa?
[22:17] <Tenkawa> I dont see any power/status triggers in /sys
[22:17] <Tenkawa> TheLostAdmin: no.. simplicity
[22:17] <Tenkawa> less clutter in lsusb.. etc
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[22:18] <Chillum> Tenkawa: you could fill the port with glue
[22:19] <Chillum> oh simplicity hehe
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[22:24] <Tenkawa> anyone ever converted adapted a regular computer power supply to power pi's?
[22:24] <Tenkawa> converted/adapted
[22:24] <Hasselsaurus> you could if you could get it to turn on and tap the 5v line
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[22:25] <Tenkawa> thats easy enough.. would be neat if someone built a harness/adapter set
[22:25] <ShorTie> ya, ripped the power connector out of a floppie drive, piece of 18ga wire to a micro-usb end
[22:25] <Hasselsaurus> I can't imagine why you'd want to power a pi with a device that's 6x the size of a pi
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[22:26] <Tenkawa> i'm not talking "1" pi
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[22:26] <Hasselsaurus> ah
[22:26] <Tenkawa> I'm talking 7 of them
[22:27] <Hasselsaurus> You'd have to send it the ATX signal it expects to power on
[22:27] <Tenkawa> yah I know
[22:27] <ali1234> short green wire to gorund...thats it
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[22:28] <pksato> rpi, atx, 5V SB and a 12V bulb https://youtu.be/jgFh6yLe6Os
[22:28] <Tenkawa> heheeheh
[22:28] * Tenkawa cant see graphics on this box although that sounds neat
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[22:30] <Link> ech i dont have soldering tin or iron
[22:31] * H__ tosses a pair of these into the channel
[22:31] <pksato> bulb is on this video https://youtu.be/hDdpY8GT-_c
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[22:45] <BetaSoul> For the guy who was looking for the stack inclosure early: http://www.amazon.com/GeauxRobot-Raspberry-4-layer-Stack-Enclosure/dp/B00MYFAAPO/ref=pd_sim_pc_36?ie=UTF8&refRID=0ND5HK0XWQMDPNBD73ND
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[22:51] <BetaSoul> Any one got one of these:
[22:51] <BetaSoul> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00M6G9YBM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3R613EW5HTD95
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[22:51] <BetaSoul> If so, how is it?
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[22:53] * nerdboy snickers with an accent
[22:53] <nerdboy> "i told them we've already got one..."
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[22:54] <Chillum> BetaSoul: I have one of those, it is a nice case
[22:55] <Chillum> looks slick and it is sturdy, allows air flow etc
[22:55] <Chillum> it is delicate when it is in pieces but very sturdy when put on a pi
[22:55] <Chillum> you can get it for cheaper than that on ebay though
[22:56] <Chillum> oh wait, that one is different than what i have
[22:56] <BetaSoul> I'm trying to deside if I should purchase my 2b now, or wait for http://www.adafruit.com/products/2347 to come back in stock next month.
[22:56] <Chillum> I have this: www.ebay.ca/itm/111460056991?var=410451583737
[22:57] <BetaSoul> The device spends a lot of its time as a media center, so looking nice is a major plus for a case.
[22:57] <BetaSoul> I just wish minitux worked for the 2b.
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[22:58] <buZz> BetaSoul: wow 40 usd case :P
[22:58] <BetaSoul> Yes, but its a damn sexy case.
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[22:58] <Chillum> for my media center I got a case that mounts to the mounting holes on the back of a monitor/tv
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[22:58] <Chillum> BetaSoul: that is a fugly case. For $40 you can get a nice aluminum one
[22:58] <BetaSoul> It only spends PART of its life doing htat. And it tends to travel with me.
[22:59] <buZz> WOW
[22:59] <Chillum> for that price it should come with a pi in it
[22:59] <BetaSoul> How is that fugly?
[22:59] <buZz> http://www.adafruit.com/products/2447
[22:59] <buZz> SmartiPi Kit - LEGO® Compatible Case for Raspberry Pi B+ / Pi 2 - Gray
[22:59] <buZz> omgomgomg
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[23:00] <Chillum> I got this one on e-bay for $35: http://www.emko.cz/w/1400/img/catalog/gallery/H3564/1-IMG_7151.jpg
[23:00] <buZz> anyway, i'm troubled by having access to multiple 3d printers
[23:00] <Chillum> handles heat better and sturdy metal instead of plastic
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[23:00] <Chillum> looks professional
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[23:00] <buZz> thus i can no longer purchase cases :P
[23:01] <BetaSoul> It looks very 90s industerial. And only the top plate of the one from adafruit is plastic. The rest is milled alluminum.
[23:02] * nerdboy watching #beagle complain about hardocoding pin numbers in dt blob
[23:02] <Chillum> okay well if it is metal then that is not too bad. I don't like it's aesthetics but taste is personal
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[23:04] <BetaSoul> I wish the Short crust plus had proper mounting points.
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[23:05] <Tenkawa> which odroid box is current;y the strongest cpu/io wise?
[23:05] <Tenkawa> er currently
[23:07] <Tenkawa> oops. sorry
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[23:07] <Tenkawa> darn crosspost
[23:09] <Tenkawa> btw is therea config.txt setting to turn hdmi completely off?
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[23:10] <Hasselsaurus> Anywhere to get a Pi 2 shipped right now for around $35?
[23:11] <Tenkawa> Hasselsaurus: what country?
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[23:14] <Hasselsaurus> Tenkawa - Sorry, USA
[23:14] <Hasselsaurus> I realize that bit is important :)
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[23:20] <Tenkawa> Hasselsaurus: microcenter
[23:20] <Tenkawa> I think they ship
[23:21] <Froolad> where is that at?
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[23:22] <Tenkawa> Froolad: ohio
[23:23] <Tenkawa> I think they have other stores thjough dont quote me
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[23:24] <rak[1]> microcenter is nice:)
[23:24] <Tenkawa> rak[1]: indeed
[23:25] <Froolad> Online shopping
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[23:27] <Tenkawa> Froolad: storefronts too
[23:27] <Tenkawa> nice one here
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[23:27] <Froolad> always looking for alternatives to amazon
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[23:27] <waveform> Tenkawa, I'm not about config.txt settings, but you can disable HDMI after boot with "sudo tvservice -o"
[23:28] <Tenkawa> waveform: i dont think that does anything at the port/hardware level
[23:28] <waveform> shaves a few mA off the power supply - handy if you're running on batteries
[23:29] <waveform> Tenkawa, well it certainly does something at the port level in as much as it does turn off the display; as to the power supply claim - that's what I've heard from the firmware devs but I can't claim to have tested it with a multi-meter
[23:30] <Tenkawa> ahh
[23:30] <Tenkawa> i'll definitely give it a look.. thanks
[23:30] <ali1234> really? is hdmi/composite not automatically disabled if nothing is connected?
[23:31] <waveform> at the software level, when the display is off, things like "graphics_get_display_size" in the bcm_host library don't successfully return so it's certainly aware that the display's off
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[23:31] <ali1234> tvservice -o certainly changes a lot of registers, i know that. thought they'd all be off by default anyway though
[23:31] <waveform> ali1234, no - at least in my experiments writing the picamera library I did find that graphics_get_display_size happily returned the old resolution from the connected monitor after it had been disconnected and it only failed to return (-1 result code) when tvservice -o was run
[23:32] <ali1234> right yeah... but if you boot up with no display connected?
[23:32] <waveform> now ... whether that means the port was still running and powered I couldn't say
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[23:32] <waveform> good question - I can't remember off the top of my head. Actually, hang on, I've got a headless Rpi2 here - let me just check what that call returns ...
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[23:33] <waveform> okay, looks like that call returns -1 if the Pi's been booted without a display
[23:33] <Tenkawa> this will help some... hardware instead of wifi
[23:34] <waveform> (which I'd *guess* means the display is powered off ... unfortunately I don't have a spare HDMI screen to test what happens when it's plugged in afterward right now)
[23:34] <ali1234> i've only tried with composite
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[23:35] <Tenkawa> i wish I had more than 3 ethernet ports to use
[23:35] <Tenkawa> heheh
[23:36] <Codica> ech, to use a 32x32 matrix from adafruit I need the HAT
[23:37] <Codica> and its out of stock
[23:37] <Codica> my local reseller doesn't have it either
[23:37] <Codica> You also need to solder which I don't have the equipment for
[23:37] <Codica> ;n;
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[23:42] <Tenkawa> thats better
[23:42] <Tenkawa> now I'm drawing approx 396ma less power per box
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[23:44] <waveform> impressive - I assume that's not from the display alone? (I'd heard the power saving on the HDMI port was rather less than that)
[23:45] <Tenkawa> waveform: going from wifi to ethernet
[23:45] <waveform> ahhh
[23:45] <Tenkawa> my adapter was using 400ma
[23:45] <waveform> that makes sense
[23:45] <Tenkawa> yeah
[23:45] <Tenkawa> I need to get a switch though because I'm out of ports
[23:45] <Tenkawa> afk.. bbl
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[23:49] <Bilby> okay, so i finally have this esp8266 running code
[23:49] <Bilby> buuut i'm a bit stuck... i need it to pull a pin low to trigger a rleay but it's pulling low for just a moment when it initializes and that's too long. i need it to stay low
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