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IRC Log for 2015-04-01

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[0:02] <gtrmtx> hey guys..working with raspbian and unifi video server version 3.0.9.25...i am using minimal kiosk browser and i am able to view the live view from the ip of each individual camera, but if i try to do live view from the unifi video server it's just black. how do i get it to work?
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[0:05] <Froolap> turn on the camera
[0:05] <shiftplusone> edwardthefma, I didn't say you should worry about voiding your warranty... you asked about what's safe. The warranty void condition is a good indicator.
[0:06] <gtrmtx> Froolap: lol not the issue
[0:07] <edwardthefma> I wanted to.know what would be exptable and what would be overkill
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[0:14] <nfk|laptop> oh, i have an idea, i can write to stdo and then... wait till it's published
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[0:15] <nfk|laptop> dammit, i think one of my hdd's just made a worrying sound again
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[0:17] <Anorion> I think I've decided what I want to do with my rbp
[0:17] <Anorion> although, I might buy an A to do this
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[0:17] <Brutussss> Anorion: what is it
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[0:18] <Anorion> I'm going to build a turret to mount on the ceiling of my kitchen
[0:18] <Anorion> to shoot nerf pellets at my cat when he gets on the counter
[0:18] <mave_> lol
[0:18] <Brutussss> hehe
[0:18] <Brutussss> please, please, please release the code when done
[0:18] <Anorion> XD
[0:18] <Anorion> has anyone ported the kinect to the pi yet?
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[0:19] <Anorion> because that'd make it 8647% easier
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[0:22] <juser123> hey all. I did a rpi-update a few days ago and my usb wifi adapter no won’t get a DHCP address from my AP. it associates to the AP, but fo whatever reason won’t get an address. anyone else see this? It’s a realtek usb adapter
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[0:22] <edwardthefma> Yawn
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[0:36] <nfk|laptop> Anorion, it's nicer to squirt water
[0:36] <nfk|laptop> really
[0:36] <nfk|laptop> also it's easier to program it to squirt anyone
[0:37] <nfk|laptop> may i recommend firing pepper spray at yourself?
[0:38] <nfk|laptop> juser123, i used rpi-update last week and a similar dongle is working fine except it sometimes goes to very deep sleep state if not used for many hours
[0:38] <Froolap> user123 I don't do updates, if it works then it doesn't need fixing.
[0:38] <nfk|laptop> also rpi-update mightn not be what you want
[0:38] <nfk|laptop> it's bleeding edge stuff
[0:38] <Anorion> <nfk|laptop> may i recommend firing pepper spray at yourself? <--- ??
[0:38] <nfk|laptop> the normal firmware is provided via apt-get upgrade
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[0:39] <nfk|laptop> Anorion, for nerfing your cat you clealry deserve that
[0:39] <Anorion> O-o
[0:39] <nfk|laptop> i'd consider headlocking or armbarring you IRL provided i had the chance and you weren't too buff
[0:40] <Anorion> O_O
[0:40] <Anorion> O_o
[0:40] <Anorion> rather
[0:40] <Froolap> 0o0/
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[0:41] <nfk|laptop> what if it hits your cat in the eye?
[0:42] <nfk|laptop> not to mention it's generally mean just like a headlock
[0:42] <Anorion> maybe it'd uncross his eyes
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[0:44] <nfk|laptop> Froolap, anyway, while i can agree that sometimes updates are dangerous, in my opinion running old code is dangerous too unless it's actually getting security fixes
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[1:13] <[Saint]> the "danger" of updating aside (c'mon...really?), no one needs rpi-update, period.
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[1:13] <[Saint]> it quite literally does nothing that you can't do already without it, and does so in a fairly broken way.
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[1:35] <nfk|laptop> [Saint], i meant it in a general sense
[1:35] <nfk|laptop> sometimes updates break stuff
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[1:35] <nfk|laptop> especially when it's not a perfectly homologous monoculture with exactly the same use cases
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[1:42] <Anorion> I really wish they'd just make their own repository and do it all through apt
[1:43] <abnormal> or a mint version for pi
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[1:43] <secrettriangle> Why should I get an rpi?
[1:43] <secrettriangle> (other than the fact that they're cool)
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[1:44] <flounders> secrettriangle: I think the reasons will be as varied as the uses.
[1:44] <flounders> I got mine to serve as a temporary desktop while my laptop gets fixed.
[1:45] <methuzla> secrettriangle: because you want to
[1:45] <secrettriangle> What can I do with an rpi that I can't do with my laptop?
[1:45] <abnormal> look at it
[1:46] <methuzla> interact with external hardware devices
[1:46] <methuzla> cheaply and easily
[1:46] <abnormal> yup, like arduino uno, parallax quick start, etc
[1:48] <abnormal> even have a piface on one of them that has relays on it...
[1:49] <muriani> I need to find an old model B for cheap
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[1:49] <muriani> there's a guy interfacing one to a GBS8220 scaler and improving the scaler quality massively
[1:49] <[Saint]> As in "cheaper than *thirty bloody dollars*"!?!
[1:50] <[Saint]> Geez people...
[1:50] <[Saint]> Like, seriously.
[1:50] <abnormal> good luck.. look in ebay but the chances are you may end up with a dud...
[1:50] <[Saint]> yeah - precisely.
[1:50] <[Saint]> Save $10, for no warranty, and a potentially faulty unit.
[1:50] <[Saint]> not. worth. it.
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[1:51] <[Saint]> Man up and dig around in the couch cushions if you have to.
[1:51] <[Saint]> Save for a week or two if you have to.
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[1:51] <muriani> ok then.
[1:51] <muriani> That's really not the kind of interaction I would have expected here.
[1:52] <abnormal> sorry
[1:52] <[Saint]> One expects bad advice instead?
[1:52] <abnormal> but it's very true tho..
[1:52] <muriani> considering I'm looking for an old model that's not even current
[1:52] <abnormal> we are experienced enuf to mention it... otherwise nothing would have been said...
[1:53] <muriani> that honestly wasn't advice, that was insult.
[1:53] <muriani> that was condescension.
[1:53] <abnormal> I ordered a model A and got a model B 256 mb instead.
[1:54] <muriani> because I deigned to suggest I might find an older model, which I need for a specific purpose, for cheaper than, yes, thirty dollars.
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[1:54] <muriani> abnormal: a 256MB model B would be just fine. In fact that's pretty much what I need.
[1:55] <[Saint]> Well, FWIW, wanting this product at less than the absolutely marginal cost it already is is somewhat insulting to some...
[1:55] <abnormal> yeh, I paid 35 plus shipping
[1:55] <[Saint]> And, JSYK, you can still buy the B from most retailers.
[1:55] <muriani> [Saint]: alright then.
[1:55] <abnormal> came to about 39
[1:55] <muriani> well have fun guys.
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[1:56] <abnormal> radio shack still has the B
[1:56] <[Saint]> RS and E14 do too.
[1:56] <[Saint]> But, not at "I want this cheaper, 'cos...reasons" pricing.
[1:57] <[Saint]> Maybe I got a bit pissy, but, ...$30
[1:57] <[Saint]> c'mon.
[1:57] <[Saint]> Saving $10 maybe isn't worth the lack of warranty and sales support.
[1:57] <abnormal> well then buy a laptop
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[2:06] <lostogre> Hello all. I am trying to connect a raspi with and arduino over i2c. If I am only trying to read a byte at a time, all is well, but when I try to read more than one byte I run into problems.
[2:06] <lostogre> I cannot seem to make it work in python.
[2:06] <lostogre> however, there is precious little documentation for doing this with the smbus library for the pi.
[2:07] <methuzla> lostogre: are you using a level shifter?
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[2:07] <lostogre> I need to be able to read 16bit values because I am using the arduino to control sensors and the pi to use the information to aply logic.
[2:07] <ppq> just curious, why i2c and not uart?
[2:08] <lostogre> methuzla, I am using the pull up resistors in the pi to regulate the voltage on the arduino. The pi is master and the arduino is slave.
[2:08] <lostogre> ppq, speed and seeming simplicity in connecting them.
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[2:08] <lostogre> ppq, also, because it simplifies the overall design.
[2:09] <lostogre> ppq, if we used something like usb, we would have to resort to a hub and to *many* wires.
[2:09] <McBride36> Bilby, have you figured out a solution yet?
[2:09] <ppq> why usb?
[2:09] <lostogre> with i2c we will have to build a wiring harness or use a solder "breadboard" but it will reduce the amount of wires.
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[2:10] <lostogre> That and the consistency of the addressing.
[2:10] <Bilby> McBride36 I'm going to try a filtering capacitor. It's not an engineering-optimal design but it requires the least additional parts
[2:10] <Bilby> and I just realized I need to order a part from mauser anyway, blarg
[2:10] <lostogre> ppq, simplicity
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[2:13] <Bilby> darn it. switch that would work fine: $3.75. Switch customer wants to use $15.07. Literally tripling the cost of the build. Life!
[2:14] <methuzla> lostogre: can you pastebin what you currently have in the way of python code?
[2:14] <lostogre> methuzla, I can show what I have that works.
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[2:15] <methuzla> and what you tried for multi-byte?
[2:15] <[Saint]> I...hmmm.
[2:15] <[Saint]> How the? Maybe I can't math.
[2:15] <lostogre> methuzla, most just trying to read the next byte with the same code and also a couple of other library functions. I'll include the link for what I have.
[2:16] <[Saint]> But, how does an additional item (or any N value of said items) that's $N*4 triple the project cost?
[2:17] <nfk|laptop> I looked at the time on my phone, the date had advanced a day, becoming
[2:17] <nfk|laptop> the first of April. It‘s now three forty five in the morning, that‘s early.
[2:17] <nfk|laptop> whoah, i'm feeling weird
[2:17] <nfk|laptop> reading a light novel in almost real time
[2:18] <[Saint]> are you near a black hole?
[2:18] <nfk|laptop> that's like seeing today's date (complete with year) in persona 4
[2:18] <lostogre> methuzla, http://pastebin.com/QSUGpHwr
[2:18] <nfk|laptop> no, just in my bed reading a fan translation of kamisama no memochou
[2:18] <nfk|laptop> vol 2
[2:19] <lostogre> methuzla, http://www.raspberry-projects.com/pi/programming-in-python/i2c-programming-in-python/using-the-i2c-interface-2
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[2:19] <lostogre> methuzla, I've tried using the read_word_data function, but it just crashes and forces me to reset my arduino
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[2:30] <juser123> Ok. seeing that rpi-update has goofed my system up. is there a way to recover from it and get back to the stock raspberian without reloading?
[2:33] <shiftplusone> juser123, it would be good to know how rpi-update goofed up your system first.
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[2:34] <_puddle_> so people... raspbmc or xbian??
[2:35] <juser123> well, it disabled a working usb wifi dongle. i asked the question earlier and was advised to not use rpi-update
[2:35] <juser123> xbian
[2:35] <_puddle_> i'm very new to the pi and i am dual booting openelec and raspbian
[2:35] <shiftplusone> neither
[2:36] <juser123> driver loads, etc. but it wont pass traffic
[2:36] <_puddle_> i an see that what i want is a mix of the two
[2:36] <shiftplusone> you can now install kodi in raspbian.
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[2:36] <_puddle_> hmm..
[2:36] <nfk|laptop> juser123, but is that really because of firmware?
[2:36] <nfk|laptop> it doesn't sound like something that firmware would do
[2:36] <_puddle_> shiftplusone, why neither?
[2:37] <nfk|laptop> i mean, a 3rd party wifi dongle is basically independent
[2:37] <edwardthefma> Hello all
[2:37] <juser123> nfk|laptop: it went like this. working wifi connection, rpi-update, reboot, non-woring wifi connection
[2:37] <nfk|laptop> and you changed nothing else?
[2:37] <juser123> nfk|laptop: nope
[2:37] <nfk|laptop> it really sounds like a problem on the wifi end
[2:38] <_puddle_> which usb dongle?
[2:38] <simonpatapon> What dors rpi-update?
[2:38] <shiftplusone> _puddle_, because for a pure htpc, openelec is perfect. For a general purpose distro with kodi, raspbian is fine.
[2:38] <simonpatapon> Does*
[2:38] <nfk|laptop> simonpatapon, do not use it
[2:38] <juser123> wpa_supplicant gets me associated, but dhclient won’t negoiate an IP address. i see the connection on the AP, and no request for dhcp.
[2:38] <nfk|laptop> you do not need or want it
[2:39] <nfk|laptop> juser123, you do not need to run dhclient manually
[2:39] <juser123> nfk|laptop: understood. and I’m not. just giving the moving parts
[2:40] <simonpatapon> Well, i need and want to know What it Does :)
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[2:40] <_puddle_> i suppose there is better support with raspbian... which iconfess ined
[2:40] <nfk|laptop> juser123, use ip to assign a valid configuration on your own and see if it works
[2:40] <nfk|laptop> that's what i'd do
[2:41] <shiftplusone> simonpatapon, pulls in the bleeding edge firmware, kernel and vc libraries.
[2:41] <simonpatapon> Ok
[2:41] <nfk|laptop> shiftplusone, i think it's reasonable to add a warning and first time "are you sure? y/N" prompt
[2:41] <juser123> iwconfig shows the dongle assocaited with my AP, and ifconfig shows a few packets being sent, etc. but dhclient is just setting there. even if i kill the process and try it manually, no dice. ifdown/idup on the wlan0 gets me to the same point, associated but no IP
[2:42] <nfk|laptop> juser123, ip
[2:42] <nfk|laptop> not iwconfig
[2:42] <methuzla> lostogre what happens if you just do two calls to bus.read_byte
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[2:42] <kevin> hey guys. just did some reading on the gpios. pretty familiar with the software but had a quick question on the actual hardware. i dont need any quantized values, just on or off. looking at http://bit.ly/1DnGbJj, can i put a momentary switch (that defaults to off) on pins 17 and 18 without using a resistor?
[2:42] <nfk|laptop> juser123, iwconfig is more or less useless
[2:42] <juser123> nfk|laptop: iwconfig shows the wifi association, ipconfig shows me the address, etc
[2:43] <nfk|laptop> juser123, so you are not even seeing the AP end of things?
[2:43] <nfk|laptop> juser123, go check with your AP if connection is even established
[2:43] <shiftplusone> nfk|laptop, I added a feature to it which will display a NOTICE.md, if found. If the notice contains 'WARNING', it will ask if you want to proceed. Doesn't do anything right now, since there's no NOTICE.md, but that's the general idea.
[2:43] <lostogre> methuzla, it gives me the same byte.
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[2:43] <juser123> nfk|laptop: i see the SSID, see it associate and pass WPA authentication, but then can’t get a dhcp, so it just sets there
[2:43] <nfk|laptop> juser123, also beware that wpa_supplicant exists for a reason
[2:44] <juser123> i see the conenction from the AP, but no request for DHCP
[2:44] <nfk|laptop> iwconfig as far as i can tell is only good for plain 802.11
[2:44] <nfk|laptop> sure, it might show you card state but that's about it
[2:44] <juser123> yeah, correct. it’s just quick and dirty to show the AP association after wpa_supplicant does its thing
[2:44] <nfk|laptop> juser123, from? so you can actually confirm that AP does indeed establish a connection, correct?
[2:45] <edwardthefma> Is overclocking a raspberry pi 1 a good idea
[2:45] <juser123> yes, confirmed
[2:45] <nfk|laptop> and it's not iwconfig or anything, yes?
[2:45] <shiftplusone> edwardthefma, depends.
[2:45] <juser123> i see if connected from the AP’s point of view
[2:45] <methuzla> lostogre unfortunately i haven't played around on the arduino side of things
[2:45] <juser123> just no DHCP requests, so no address assigned.
[2:45] <nfk|laptop> juser123, then use ip to set it up manually
[2:45] <lostogre> methuzla, Ok. Thanks for looking.
[2:45] <nfk|laptop> derp
[2:46] <nfk|laptop> and see if that works
[2:46] <lostogre> I'm going to try wiringPi.
[2:46] <methuzla> lostogre but the read commands other than read_byte expect a register address
[2:46] <edwardthefma> Is it worth it
[2:46] <lostogre> That's the problem I am running into.
[2:47] <juser123> nfk|laptop: k.. i’ll give it a swing. just seems related to the kernel/firmware that rpi-update installed. or at least that’s when the issue showed up.
[2:47] <methuzla> lostogre so using one of those, like read_word_data, probably sent extra communication that disrupted things on the arduino
[2:47] <lostogre> possibly....
[2:47] <nfk|laptop> juser123, also, how do you know it's not receiving the request? are you intercepting packets?
[2:48] <nfk|laptop> juser123, in fact, that's a good idea, try sniffing the wifi connection, i'm not sure how it's done but it should be doable and if you know the wpa pass, you can also decrypt the communications
[2:48] <methuzla> lostogre some of the kernel docs may be helpful: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/i2c/smbus-protocol
[2:49] <nfk|laptop> again, might be a bit high level compared to ethernet packet capture
[2:49] <lostogre> methuzla, yeah, I have seen those, but thanks.
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[2:50] <juser123> nfk|laptop: it’s not a matter of the wifi connection. the AP and the RPi are 3 feet apart. the AP packet counters show no addiational traffic once the WPA authentication happens. it just goes dark. oh well.. off to try a static IP
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[2:51] <nfk|laptop> juser123, what kind of device is that?
[2:51] <nfk|laptop> that's not your average router
[2:52] <juser123> nope. cisco aironet access point
[2:52] <nfk|laptop> sounds expensive
[2:53] <nfk|laptop> juser123, i'd still try packet capture, if you're using ciscoware you should be cool enough to pull it off
[2:53] <juser123> yeah. kinda over did it with the wireless here.
[2:53] <nfk|laptop> that is, to debug it
[2:53] <nfk|laptop> for now, try ip
[2:53] <nfk|laptop> it's easy to use
[2:53] <juser123> indeed. thanks
[2:53] <nfk|laptop> at least compared to the old days of ipconfig
[2:54] <nfk|laptop> terrible thing
[2:54] <nfk|laptop> np
[2:54] <nfk|laptop> <- routerboard user
[2:54] <nfk|laptop> *mikrotik routerboard
[2:55] <methuzla> lostogre my guess is when calling read_byte twice, it just calls your arduino sendData twice
[2:55] <nfk|laptop> als i think it's ifconfig on linux
[2:55] <lostogre> methuzla, probably.
[2:56] <methuzla> lostogre so you're just getting the first byte of two different analog reads
[2:56] <nfk|laptop> thankfully i have forgotten how it's even called
[2:56] <lostogre> don't know what else to do.
[2:57] <methuzla> more complex code on the arduino side
[2:57] <methuzla> first call to callback = send first byte
[2:58] <methuzla> second call to callback = send second byte
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[2:58] <_puddle_> is it possible that the usb ports con't have enough juice to run a ireless mouse keyboard combo and a wifi adaptor at the same time? i have added max_usb_current 1 to config.txt to boost the power but the keyboard and mpouse stop responding at times. if i boot with the dongle in the keyboard won't respond, but if i put it in after boot it works for a time. i have even had the dongle , keyboard/mouse and an external hard drive running all together.
[2:58] <methuzla> thirst call to callback = send first byte of a new read
[2:58] <methuzla> etc
[2:58] <methuzla> *third
[3:00] <nfk|laptop> _puddle_, maybe but just maybe, have you looked at dmesg?
[3:00] <nfk|laptop> i'd expect the device to come and go if it's shutting down from lack of power but i might be wrong
[3:01] <_puddle_> hmm.
[3:01] <shiftplusone> max_usb_current 1? or max_usb_current=1 ?
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[3:02] <_puddle_> =1
[3:02] <shiftplusone> k, just wanted to make sure.
[3:02] <_puddle_> thanks
[3:02] <_puddle_> i'm capable of such mistakes
[3:02] <shiftplusone> does the red LED ever flicker or is it constantly on?
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[3:02] <_puddle_> seems solid
[3:03] <shiftplusone> and which pi is it?
[3:03] <_puddle_> 2 b+
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[3:03] <shiftplusone> there's no 2 b+, so I'll assume 2 b.... hurray for confusing naming schemes. Anything interesting in dmesg?
[3:06] <methuzla> _puddle_ and are you using a power supply that can supply the extra amps?
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[3:06] <nfk|laptop> _puddle_, i assume it's logitech stuff, does your mice have acctivity LED?
[3:06] <nfk|laptop> and a cable
[3:06] <nfk|laptop> the normal one is rated for 750 mA or something
[3:06] <nfk|laptop> at least it's limited to that
[3:07] <nfk|laptop> rating might be around 1A or somewhat higher but not the max draw of RPi according to the data sheet that came with my B+
[3:07] <_puddle_> nothing is jumping out at me in dmesg but i'm a novice
[3:08] <nfk|laptop> _puddle_, and has it happened since you booted?
[3:08] <_puddle_> i'm using a d-link dwa131 adaptor
[3:08] <nfk|laptop> dmesg will contain interesting bits only if it has already had an incident since last bootup
[3:08] <_puddle_> 2amp samsung psu
[3:08] <nfk|laptop> i thought it was your keyboard and mouse that were having problems
[3:09] <nfk|laptop> _puddle_, assuming it's actually providing that much, should be enough
[3:09] <_puddle_> ill attach it now and see
[3:09] <nfk|laptop> again, cable
[3:09] <nfk|laptop> honestly, it's a bit messy
[3:09] <_puddle_> it's a keyboard/mouse combo working from onr wireless reciever
[3:10] <nfk|laptop> i meean, if it's a pluggable cable then it's dubous how they can negotiate allowed amps
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[3:10] <nfk|laptop> onr?
[3:10] <_puddle_> *one
[3:10] <nfk|laptop> _puddle_, what are you saying there? there's no wi-fi keyboards and mices
[3:10] <nfk|laptop> and it would be RETARDED - wi-fi is a power drain
[3:11] <nfk|laptop> also i don't think there's HID class for 802.11 stuff
[3:11] <nfk|laptop> so you could not have HID over Wi-Fi anyway
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[3:11] <_puddle_> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 045e:00f9 Microsoft Corp. Wireless Desktop Receiver 3.1
[3:11] <nfk|laptop> at least not without magic on OS side
[3:11] <Mr_Sheesh> Could make one but why when BT exists, is cheap, and works?
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[3:12] <nfk|laptop> Mr_Sheesh, it would still not be standard
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[3:12] <_puddle_> not "WI-FI"
[3:12] <nfk|laptop> actually, does BT have a profile for HID? should have but i can't think of the name
[3:13] <nfk|laptop> _puddle_, then don't say wireless
[3:13] <nfk|laptop> wireless is generally understood as wifi
[3:13] <nfk|laptop> or logitech stuff
[3:13] <nfk|laptop> haven't seen anything else
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[3:13] <nfk|laptop> also, i see it's microsoft
[3:13] <nfk|laptop> read it as micron at first
[3:13] <nfk|laptop> _puddle_, so that's the other company
[3:13] <nfk|laptop> now, where does d-link come into play?
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[3:14] <_puddle_> the problems occur when i attach the dongle... somethimes or when i boot with it in
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[3:15] <nfk|laptop> great, do it
[3:15] <nfk|laptop> and then see dmesg
[3:15] <nfk|laptop> that is, after an incident
[3:15] <nfk|laptop> if still nothing, derp
[3:15] <nfk|laptop> also could it be the dongle simply maxes out usb bandwidth per chance?
[3:16] <nfk|laptop> i'm not exactly knowledgable about resource sharing on usb hubs
[3:16] <_puddle_> problem being the issue is the keyboard cuts out so i can't check during
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[3:18] <nfk|laptop> _puddle_, then use ssh
[3:18] <nfk|laptop> or uart
[3:18] <nfk|laptop> or wait till it starts working
[3:19] <nfk|laptop> or log dmesg to network but ssh is easier to pull off
[3:19] <_puddle_> yes i will have to set it up ... been meaning to
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[3:25] <nfk|laptop> ssh? there's nothing to set up as long as you're not using windows
[3:26] <nfk|laptop> if you're are, time to install a real os
[3:26] <nfk|laptop> dualboot is fine as long as it boots at all
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[3:27] <_puddle_> lol i'm trying to leave windows behind altogether
[3:28] <crazy_cletus> well it is time to install a real os and be done with windblows
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[3:28] <_puddle_> my laptops charger died so i'm waiting for a replacement and i have yet to fix grub on my old one
[3:28] <_puddle_> old laptop
[3:29] <_puddle_> i know winblows!
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[3:31] <[Saint]> ssh alone is not a particularly practical reason for switching OS.
[3:32] <[Saint]> its not like there aren't plenty of decent ssh clients for Windows out there.
[3:32] <[Saint]> PuTTY for one.
[3:32] <_puddle_> i just haven't used ssh at all yet
[3:33] <simonpatapon> You always need windows for something in thé end
[3:33] <_puddle_> but i can see it's a needed tool really
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[3:33] <_puddle_> simonpatapon, exactly
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[3:35] <nfk|laptop> _puddle_, ssh pi@yourrasp
[3:36] <nfk|laptop> enter yes when prompted
[3:36] <nfk|laptop> enter your password and you're in
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[3:36] <_puddle_> thats why i keep it somewhere i installed the win10 tech preview and i just havent fixed grub... at which point i'll need to fix kubuntu...
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[3:37] <nfk|laptop> then you can generate an ecdsa key so that you can log in via pubkey authentication
[3:37] <_puddle_> that is from any terminal?
[3:37] <nfk|laptop> but that's advanced use and it's okay to use passwords as long as you're noob and your ssh server is not connectable from internet or untrustworthy systems
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[3:38] <nfk|laptop> _puddle_, virtually any *nix comes with openssh pre-installed and rasbian ships with sshd running by default, so yes
[3:38] <nfk|laptop> usually the server is turned off for desktop systems by default
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[3:41] <simonpatapon> I sas that there were à lot of thermomètre, humidité for thé pi, do you know of any standalon wifi or wired sensor linux ompatible?
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[3:49] <_puddle_> ok thanks. i will try to reproduce the issue look into it via ssh
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[3:50] <_puddle_> i'm certainly a noob. enthusiastic one but noe the less...
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[3:53] <crazy_cletus> _puddle_: we all are noobs at one time or another
[3:53] <danielbrazilian> i want to buy a rpi 2 but have a question, i would love to play videos in full hd 1080p does it work smoothly?
[3:53] <danielbrazilian> please i would love some help now
[3:54] <_puddle_> crazy_cletus, exacly
[3:55] <_puddle_> it's exciting ... a world of potential... and frustration
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[3:59] <danielbrazilian> please anyone?
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[4:01] <_puddle_> danielbrazilian, try google. i'm sure i read somewhere that some of the os available do..
[4:01] <_puddle_> one with kodi i assume
[4:07] <danielbrazilian> thank you _puddle_
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[4:22] <Bhaal> Has anyone produced a board for the compute module which JUST has ethernet (hopefully with passive poe) and the camera connector?
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[4:33] <shiftplusone> Bhaal, that sounds like a more expensive, less functional pi.
[4:34] <Bhaal> shiftplusone: probably, but it would fit into a small aluminium cylinder a lot better than a normal Pi
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[4:36] <shiftplusone> Heh, didn't know "fits into a small aluminium cylinder pretty well" is a feature.
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[4:36] <Bhaal> It is for making HD cctv cameras
[4:37] <shiftplusone> cool
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[4:53] <fr0g911> anyone here good with the pi and vlc ip cam recording
[4:54] <McBride36> i'm good with pie
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[4:57] <fr0g911> what kinda pie lol
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[5:00] <fr0g911> im using vlc to record the stream then convert it using vcodec DIV2, audio codec mp3, mux is avi, the files are 1hour long and at 500vb. and times anywhere from 2 hours to 5 hours to transcode using the newest pi and a fast sdcard
[5:00] <abnormal> apple, strawberry, blackberry, raspberry, shoefly, molassas, etc
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[5:04] <fr0g911> not a fan of apple strawberry blackberry or raspberry pretty much all besides pumpkin pie and banana
[5:05] <abnormal> lol
[5:06] <abnormal> molassas is ooie gooie... but really yummy...
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[5:15] <fr0g911> ima have to get on my windows 3.1 start up tcp winstock and see if yahoo is up on it and check
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[5:18] <abnormal> lol
[5:19] <abnormal> that's an old winblows...
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[5:23] <Chillum> 3.1? I remember that
[5:23] <Chillum> winsock lol
[5:24] <Chillum> back before the internet was part of the operating system
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[5:25] <abnormal> well I have DOS ver 1.0
[5:26] <Chillum> oh ya well I have Apple ProDOS on my Apple II
[5:26] <abnormal> cool
[5:27] <Chillum> actually I think those floppy disks have been erased by the Earth's magnetic field by now
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[5:27] <abnormal> I used to have a Tandy Model One...
[5:27] <Chillum> Vic20 was my first computer
[5:27] <Chillum> with a BASIC cartridge and a tape disk
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[5:28] <MrWronger2> hello everyone
[5:29] <Chillum> yo
[5:29] <abnormal> enoyreve olleh
[5:29] <MrWronger2> i have asked this on another channel but i thought id ask here as well...
[5:29] <MrWronger2> i have an issue with my hdmi output when i connect via my hdmi amp i get no video or audio through the amp but if i connect straight to tv its fine ia there a setting i can change within raspbian
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[5:34] <MrWronger2> /quit Will check logs after got call to pickup wife from work
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[5:41] <jaggzt> why's my gpio script require access to /dev/mem??
[5:41] <jaggzt> I don't want to give it root access if I don't have to
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[6:21] <jaggz-> anyone?
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[6:57] <Mr_Sheesh> jaggz- Are the gpio pins memory mapped? Need to get programming on the RPi; ATM I have an HDMI converter that is faulty :/
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[7:10] <Chillum> Mr_Sheesh: I have only accessed them through the pyton library. The raspbian image has an ssh server running by default
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[7:10] <Chillum> so a display/keyboard/mouse is not needed
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[7:31] <_puddle_> anyone else have opinions about xbian vs raspbmc?
[7:32] <Chillum> I am using kodi. I have no idea which flavor is better. I would like to know, none of the plugins seem to work for me.
[7:32] <jaggz-> Mr_Sheesh: not sure.. but ive run other apps using gpio.. but they used i2c
[7:32] <_puddle_> i am liking openelec but a browser and terminal would be good
[7:32] <jaggz-> hmm
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[7:33] <_puddle_> Chillum, you running kodi on raspbian?
[7:39] <Chillum> I am really not sure. I installed a pre-setup image
[7:39] <Chillum> I want to redo it, it is wonky
[7:40] <Chillum> I am not the guy to ask about how to do it right. If you figure out a best practice let me know
[7:40] <_puddle_> i'm still in trial phase. just got this little beauty
[7:40] <Chillum> pi1 or 2?
[7:41] <_puddle_> never used kodi previously
[7:41] <_puddle_> 2 b
[7:41] <Chillum> nice
[7:41] <_puddle_> b+
[7:41] <Chillum> b+ or 2 b? Very different
[7:41] <Chillum> I am using a b+ and it handles high def no problem
[7:41] <Chillum> the menus are a bit laggy but the video is perfectr
[7:41] <_puddle_> so is there no 2 b+?
[7:41] <Chillum> going to upgrade it to the pi 2 b
[7:42] <Chillum> no the naming scheme makes no sense
[7:42] <Chillum> I think it went something crazy like a, b, b+, a+, 2 b
[7:42] <Chillum> total nonsensical
[7:43] <_puddle_> lol so no 2 a?
[7:43] <Chillum> madness
[7:43] <_puddle_> just 2 and 2 b
[7:43] <_puddle_> haha
[7:43] <Chillum> lol
[7:43] <_puddle_> ok i have 2 b
[7:43] <Chillum> the Pi 2 Bs are great
[7:43] <_puddle_> the latest i gather
[7:43] <Chillum> makes the old ones look like a pile of crap
[7:44] <_puddle_> yeah glad i waited
[7:44] <Chillum> I have 5 setup in a cluster
[7:44] <Chillum> http://images.highinbc.com/PiClusterDisplay.jpg
[7:44] <Chillum> rocking the data
[7:45] <_puddle_> awesome!
[7:45] <_puddle_> whats the led panel in front?
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[7:53] <Chillum> it shows the load average of the different machines
[7:53] <Chillum> but it is sideways
[7:53] <Chillum> the 6th one on the left is my desktop
[7:53] <Chillum> all coordinated by redis
[7:54] <Chillum> got proper power cables and ethernet cables and a switch coming
[7:54] <Chillum> and enough pis to make it a 16 node cluster
[7:55] <_puddle_> wow, why so many?
[7:56] <Chillum> 4*16 Pis = 64 900mhz cores = 57.6Ghz
[7:56] <Chillum> do I even need a reason??
[7:58] <Chillum> I wanted a nice headless compute node and I figured about $800 for the 16 pis, cords, switch, power supply etc
[7:58] <Chillum> was better than buying a single box
[7:58] <Triffid_Hunter> Chillum: pretty sure you'd get much better performance from a couple of 2nd hand i5 desktops
[7:58] <_puddle_> are they working together?
[7:58] <Chillum> it is all about parallel processing
[7:58] <Chillum> yes they are coordinated by a sharded redis db
[7:59] <Chillum> 57.6ghz from a couple of i5s?
[7:59] * _puddle_ needs to reap up
[7:59] <Chillum> the tasks I am doing are easy to split up, I don't need any one fast core
[7:59] <Chillum> just a good sum
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[8:00] <Chillum> I would rather be able to run 64 slow cores than 8-16 fast ones
[8:01] <Chillum> it is great, my tools and scripts can fire off computationally expensive tasks to the cluster and grab the response when ready. Lets me beef up any tool I am making
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[8:04] <Triffid_Hunter> Chillum: you seem to be under the impression that cpu performance is entirely dictated by the clock speed
[8:04] <Chillum> of course not
[8:04] <Triffid_Hunter> Chillum: an armv6 at 1GHz is far slower than, say, an i5 at 1GHz
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[8:05] <Triffid_Hunter> so 57.6GHz worth of ARM cores with fairly limited network performance is quite likely to give poorer performance than a single decent server, or even a couple of desktops
[8:05] <Chillum> I don't have a lot of network demand
[8:05] <Chillum> little questions call for a lot of thought
[8:06] <Chillum> WPA password cracking for example uses very little data compared to computation done
[8:06] <Chillum> with sharded redis and units working on data close to them most data is local
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[8:06] <Chillum> it is more about understanding how to coordinate a cluster of computers than trying to eek out the best performance
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[8:07] <Chillum> still, by watt I think it out performs most things
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[8:07] <Triffid_Hunter> I can't deny that it's a fun project, just wouldn't expect to go with RPi if I wanted to maximise performance per dollar
[8:08] <Chillum> what would you recommend?
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[8:08] <Triffid_Hunter> performance per watt is great with ARM cores afaik although intel is kicking its way onto those metrics as quick as it can
[8:08] <Chillum> I want small, fanless, low power
[8:08] <Chillum> low voltage is a great feature
[8:09] <Chillum> silent is so nice after living with noisy computers
[8:09] <Triffid_Hunter> nexus 7 tablet has a pretty nice chipset.. quad core CPU and some crazy nvidia gpu
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[8:10] <jaggz-> i made my script root.localuser, and with chmod u+s, but it still only works when ran from root
[8:10] <Chillum> tablets don't have any decent os's
[8:10] <jaggz-> as root
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[8:14] <jaggz-> hmm..
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[8:17] <Chillum> anyways 5 pis outdoes my 2 core 3.5ghz AMD. When it is 16 it will be a very nice tool.
[8:18] <Chillum> I agree it lacks in network performance and thus is limited in application
[8:18] <Chillum> but many problems, such as rending animations have a very large amount of computation per data transfered
[8:19] <Chillum> a poor mans supercomputer for only certain tasks I suppose.
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[8:20] <_puddle_> well i'm a novice casual user so its a bit beond me but hats off to you Chillum. i think his is the spirit of raspberry
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[8:22] <Chillum> it is all about education using smaller versions of the real thing after all
[8:22] <Chillum> I am unlikely to get my hands on a cluster this size any other way
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[8:22] <Chillum> like model trains for people who can't afford real trains!\
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[8:27] <_puddle_> hehe exactly
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[8:57] <jaggz-> wiringpi's gpio binary.. it can enable interrupts on gpio.. but then what?
[8:57] <jaggz-> what will be called?
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[9:35] <_puddle_> can i share my connection via ethernet with raspbian?
[9:36] <_puddle_> share my wifi that is
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[10:03] <buZz> yay
[10:03] <buZz> http://imgur.com/a/8xo0g <-- is sufficient
[10:03] <buZz> for compiling a kernel on pi2
[10:04] <buZz> without, it kept segfaulting :P
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[10:04] <shay_shay> Uh
[10:04] <shay_shay> You sure?
[10:04] <buZz> yeah
[10:05] <buZz> i had it in a closed case aswell, so might have also caused it
[10:05] <buZz> but problem was heat for sure
[10:05] <shay_shay> my butt is very itchy
[10:05] <shay_shay> Maybe I need to wipe better
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[10:11] <poolson> i need to take a dump dude
[10:11] <poolson> been holding it because im working on a problem
[10:11] <poolson> sweating !
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[10:19] <shay_shay> I popped a hemmi
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[10:36] <flounders> buZz: Would it overheat just staying out in the open?
[10:36] <buZz> flounders: as i said, didnt have it out in the open
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[11:01] <_puddle_> i'm not getting audio through hdmi on raspbian
[11:02] <_puddle_> how can i check on it in terminal?
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[11:12] <Nindustries> Hmm.. is modprobe snd_bcm2835 only needed when using the 3.5mm jack?
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[11:14] <_puddle_> i see snd_bcm2835 in lsusb
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[11:15] <_puddle_> uesd 0
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[11:39] <kristina> i got another raspberry pi 2 and it's also showing under voltage warnings.
[11:40] <kristina> i measured it again, and it's a consistent 5.1v
[11:41] <kristina> on this one, in addition to under voltage warnings, the display does really weird stuff when USB is started up.
[11:41] <kristina> that happens without any USB devices being plugged in.
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[11:42] <kristina> i don't understand why it does that.
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[11:44] <kristina> it either randomly restarts when USB is started or the video output goes weird or it just shows the warning.
[11:45] <Triffid_Hunter> sounds like not enough capacitors on the board
[11:46] <kristina> either both boards are defective or i'm not seeing something.
[11:47] <kristina> can it be somehow related to the kernel not doing USB initialization properly?
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[12:31] <RoyK> hi all. on the Raspberry Pi Model C - is the ethernet port still on usb?
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[12:32] <RoyK> would be neat for it to handle WoL
[12:34] <shiftplusone> RoyK: WoL, separate bus, ponies and sandwiches... all there.
[12:34] <RoyK> :D
[12:35] <shiftplusone> What's the date today?
[12:35] <RoyK> heh
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[12:48] <toomin> Wait
[12:48] <toomin> Model C?
[12:48] <toomin> On first of April?
[12:48] <toomin> Very convenient.
[12:49] <Armand> ^ yuh-huh
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[13:23] <citroniks> hi to all
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[13:23] <pksato> morning
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[13:24] <citroniks> i want to do "Web server load balancing on Raspberry Pi " how can i do please tell me
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[13:24] <citroniks> im new to this in advance thanks
[13:26] <shiftplusone> Google linux web load balancing
[13:26] <citroniks> ok thanks
[13:27] <citroniks> shiftplusone, i read this one http://www.kmggroup.ch/?p=275
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[13:46] <SpeedEvil> Random spammage. ##optics exists, for all your discussion about optics needs.
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[14:13] <simonpatapon> good morning!
[14:14] <_puddle_> morning/evening
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[14:41] <_puddle_> how can i share my wifi connection via ethernet with raspbian?
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[14:43] <simonpatapon> what's the ifaces names?
[14:44] <_puddle_> ?
[14:44] <simonpatapon> sudo ifconfig
[14:45] <simonpatapon> should be like ethX and wlanX
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[14:45] <_puddle_> oh
[14:45] <_puddle_> eth0 wlan0
[14:45] <simonpatapon> ok, fisrt you need to tell the kernel that you want to allo Ip forwading
[14:45] <simonpatapon> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
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[14:46] <simonpatapon> then, you'll need to configure iptable to forward the packet from internal network (/dev/eth0) to extrenal (/dev/wlan0)
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[14:47] <simonpatapon> /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wlan0 -j MASQUERADE
[14:47] <_puddle_> except i need it the other way round
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[14:48] <simonpatapon> sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -i wlan0 -o eth0 -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
[14:48] <SpeedEvil> Random spammage. ##optics exists, for all your discussion about optics needs.
[14:48] <simonpatapon> /sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o wlan0 -j ACCEPT
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[14:48] <simonpatapon> what do you mean?
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[14:49] <_puddle_> well i need to share wifi from pi to laptop via ethernet
[14:50] <SpeedEvil> _puddle_: Do you mean you want to access a wifi stick on the Pi, or the laptop?
[14:50] <_puddle_> i got permission denied on the first command
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[14:50] <simonpatapon> *sudo it sorry
[14:51] <_puddle_> i did
[14:51] <_puddle_> still
[14:51] <simonpatapon> ummm
[14:51] <simonpatapon> maybe then edit /etc/sysctl.conf and change the line that says net.ipv4.ip_forward = 0 to net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1
[14:51] <simonpatapon> which is the same but will work only after reboot
[14:52] <Sonny_Jim> You don't have to reboot
[14:52] <Sonny_Jim> just cat it into /proc/sys
[14:52] <_puddle_> i can't seem to enter the terminal as root
[14:52] <Sonny_Jim> or echo it
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[14:52] <simonpatapon> ah!
[14:52] <Sonny_Jim> There is no root account password
[14:52] <simonpatapon> sudo su
[14:52] <Sonny_Jim> Use sudo
[14:53] <_puddle_> ah
[14:53] <_puddle_> there it is...
[14:55] <simonpatapon> also, note that iptables rules clears on reboot, so, when you get it working, consider saving it to a script...
[14:55] <simonpatapon> and also edit the line in /etc/sysctl.conf
[14:56] <simonpatapon> if you want it always
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[14:58] <_puddle_> ok the first one worked
[14:58] <_puddle_> i will keep going with those, thanks
[14:59] <simonpatapon> no problem
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[15:00] <_puddle_> pi is using the wifi dongle, need to share with the laptop who wont connect
[15:00] <Hix> When connectiing to Pi [raspbian on Pi2 B] via usb > serial cable I am increasingly getting this line before updates stop in the serial terminal:
[15:00] <Hix> [ 9.177040] random: nonblocking pool is initialized
[15:01] <Hix> but it appears that the pi hasn't actually hung as I have a button mapped to sudo halt, pressing it shuts down fine and updates the terminal with [ 139.040911] reboot: Power down
[15:01] <Sonny_Jim> Disable logging
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[15:01] <Hix> as in logging from putty? Sonny_Jim
[15:01] <Sonny_Jim> From what I remember, by defalt it sets up kernel logging via the serial terminal
[15:01] <Sonny_Jim> *serial pins
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[15:02] <Sonny_Jim> http://elinux.org/RPi_Serial_Connection#Preventing_Linux_using_the_serial_port
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[15:04] <Hix> cool will have a read thanks Sonny_Jim
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[15:09] <dividuum> Can someone test to see if starting omxplayer and hello_triangle at the same time blanks the screen like it does on my pis? Start both of them at the same time like this http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=105906. Thanks!
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[15:15] <_puddle_> well they all went with no error but the laptop is not connecting
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[15:15] <_puddle_> but i think it could be on that side
[15:16] <simonpatapon> hummm... maybe DCHP thing...
[15:16] <_puddle_> because it won't connect to wifi eother
[15:16] <dividuum> simonpatapon, so it blanks for you?
[15:16] <_puddle_> the laptop that is ... running kubuntu
[15:17] <_puddle_> blanks?
[15:18] <simonpatapon> dividuum, my comment was for _puddle_
[15:18] <dividuum> oh.
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[15:30] <_puddle_> hmm just tried it on another machine and still no
[15:31] <simonpatapon> does the client on eth0 gets an IP?
[15:32] <simonpatapon> can it ping the ip of wlan0 of PI?
[15:32] <simonpatapon> wan it ping google.com?
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[15:34] <simonpatapon> _puddle_, i guess you will need a DHCP server on the PI
[15:34] <simonpatapon> see this, http://raspberrypihq.com/how-to-turn-a-raspberry-pi-into-a-wifi-router/ it is the samething but you don't need hostapd
[15:35] <_puddle_> i'm not certain how to check hose things
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[15:39] <simonpatapon> on the laptop client, sudo ifconfig first
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[15:40] <_puddle_> ok
[15:41] <_puddle_> what am i looking for?
[15:42] <Sonny_Jim> What are you trying to do, setup your Pi as an access point?
[15:42] <_puddle_> no, share the pi's wifi connection via ethernet
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[15:43] <Sonny_Jim> Oh ok, then it's basically that guide, without hostapd and with the interface names reversed
[15:44] <_puddle_> my laptop seems to have a borked kubuntu install
[15:44] <Sonny_Jim> You'll just need dnsmasq and some iptables rules
[15:44] <_puddle_> reversed
[15:44] <Sonny_Jim> Yes, so where it says wlan0 swap it for eth0
[15:44] <Sonny_Jim> Think about it, that guide is for accepting information through wlan0 and sending it to eth0
[15:45] <Sonny_Jim> What you want to do is accept data from eth0 and send it out through wlan0
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[15:45] <Sonny_Jim> So, setup dnsmasq on eth0, rather than wlan0
[15:45] <_puddle_> no opposite
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[15:46] <Sonny_Jim> Think about it, what does dnmasq do?
[15:46] <_puddle_> i need to send from pi via ethernet
[15:46] <Sonny_Jim> Alright, I think I've confused you
[15:46] <Sonny_Jim> Let me put it like this:
[15:46] <_puddle_> not hard
[15:46] <Sonny_Jim> In that guide, eth0 is being shared via wlan0
[15:46] <_puddle_> lol
[15:47] <Sonny_Jim> What you want to do is share wlan0 via eth0
[15:47] <simonpatapon> Sonny_Jim, and what about DHCP? do you think his eth0 client get DHCP from hiw PI AP?
[15:47] <_puddle_> right
[15:47] <Sonny_Jim> simonpatapon: There's a couple ways to do it, you can setup a bridge and let the IP come from wlan0
[15:47] <Sonny_Jim> Or setup dnsmasq to act as a dhcpd and serve it from there
[15:48] <Sonny_Jim> You are going to use dnsmasq anyway and it's more secure to do it like that rather than a bridge
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[15:48] <_puddle_> i'm a noob especially with network stuff so simple is good
[15:49] <Sonny_Jim> But like I said, follow that quide, but ignore the part about setting up hostapd
[15:49] <_puddle_> ok
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[15:49] <Sonny_Jim> And where it says to use wlan0, use eth0 and vice versa
[15:49] <_puddle_> but in reverse
[15:49] <Sonny_Jim> That includes when you setup dnsmasq and the iptables rules
[15:49] <_puddle_> yep
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[15:52] <Sonny_Jim> I would break it down into steps, so first get dnsmasq working with a dhcpd on eth0
[15:53] <simonpatapon> iptables rules are those i wrote up
[15:53] <Sonny_Jim> Check it works by seeing if you get a dhcp lease
[15:53] <Sonny_Jim> Then add the iptables rules
[15:53] <_puddle_> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ sudo apt-get install isc-dhcp-server
[15:53] <_puddle_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[15:53] <_puddle_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[15:54] <Sonny_Jim> Is an other process using it?
[15:54] <Sonny_Jim> Also, you don't need to install a separate dhcpd, dnsmasq has one built in
[15:55] <simonpatapon> you may check the rules you have entered with /sbin/iptables -nL --line-numbers
[15:55] <Haxxa> I am installing a raspbeery pi in a car - under a dash and thus it will never be upgraded is osmc stable enough for permanant use or should I use raspbmc for this purpose
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[15:55] <Sonny_Jim> simonpatapon: Did you write that guide?
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[15:56] <simonpatapon> nop, i wrote him the iptables rules on IRC up there
[15:56] <Sonny_Jim> Ah ok
[15:57] <_puddle_> Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[15:57] <_puddle_> num target prot opt source destination
[15:57] <_puddle_> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
[15:57] <_puddle_> num target prot opt source destination
[15:57] <_puddle_> 1 ACCEPT all -- 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 state RELATED,ESTABLISHED
[15:57] <_puddle_> 2 ACCEPT all -- 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0
[15:57] <_puddle_> Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[15:57] <_puddle_> num target prot opt source destination
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[15:58] <simonpatapon> _puddle_, install dnsmask first, if your clients can't get any valid IP, the rest is useless
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[15:58] <simonpatapon> it's funny, last time I did nat was on ipchains with kernel 2.2
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[16:01] <_puddle_> ok installing
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[16:01] <Bilby> Raspberry Pi Model C wat
[16:02] <_puddle_> lol
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[16:02] <_puddle_> ok
[16:02] <_puddle_> installed
[16:06] <Bilby> Dangit! The date! I was all excited for a minute o\ /o
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[16:23] <avrdude> I want to point out that the mechanical drawing of the rpi hat is wrong: http://i.imgur.com/dgNFQoC.jpg
[16:23] <avrdude> i have double checked the measurments, and the flex cable doesnt fit so nicely through the hole :'(
[16:24] <Bilby> well that's annoying, looks like it's off by about 2 mil
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[16:24] <shiftplusone> avrdude: passed it on to the powers that be.
[16:25] * Bilby keeps forgetting that there be Powahs of Pi here
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[16:30] <avrdude> Actually, the slot is only 16.9mm long.. damn those cheap chinese pcb manufacturers..
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[16:30] <avrdude> but still, it shouldn't be that tight
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[16:30] <shiftplusone> Ah, false alarm?
[16:30] <avrdude> well.. not sure
[16:31] <avrdude> 0.1mm shouldnt make that big a difference i think
[16:31] <shiftplusone> I think it would've come up already if this was actually the case, so it's worth being sure.
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[16:40] <avrdude> shiftplusone: http://i.imgur.com/drObhEh.jpg It is 19.95 mm from the edge of the board to where the cable ends (which is also where the hole is supposed to end, according to the specs)
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[16:40] <avrdude> I have measured the board itself, and it is exactly 56.5 mm (to spec) and the hole starts exactly 3mm from the edge (to spec)
[16:40] <Hix> Think my days of RPi development at work are numbered. Three BSOD this afternoon from the Prolific USB>Serial cable
[16:41] * shiftplusone is not going to switch his brain into geometry mode.
[16:41] <avrdude> conclusion: the hole is too short in the mechanical drawing.. should maybe be 18mm instead of 17
[16:41] <avrdude> i can draw you a picture if you want :)
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[16:44] <shiftplusone> have you measured the hole itself?
[16:45] <avrdude> yea, it's about 16.95mm
[16:46] <shiftplusone> mhm
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[16:48] <grammoboy> hm same image but tv output does work on my b+ but not on my a+ board
[16:48] <avrdude> but it's strange this hasn't come up before, as you say
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[16:56] <shiftplusone> actually... I have a few HATs here... let me find the calipers.
[16:58] <shiftplusone> Nope... can't find the office callipers and mine are at home
[16:58] <Chillum> calipers are cool
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[17:00] <shiftplusone> Sure, they're right up there with bowties
[17:01] <McBride36> just eyeball it
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[17:01] <McBride36> it's almost the same thing
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[17:01] <avrdude> protip: dont use digital calipers from ebay. they're like +/- 5mm depending their mood
[17:02] <shiftplusone> I made sure not to buy digital calipers.
[17:02] <shiftplusone> But I think the office ones are. I expect that they're not the cheapest thing on ebay though
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[17:02] <avrdude> let's hope so
[17:02] <grammoboy> memory issue?
[17:02] <avrdude> anyway, i gotta go. let me know what you find out
[17:03] <shiftplusone> Oh I think my research has ended.
[17:07] <avrdude> -__-
[17:07] <avrdude> so that's that?
[17:09] <shiftplusone> What else can I do? I've passed the information on to the person responsible for the mechanical drawings. If I had callipers with me, I'd check.
[17:09] <avrdude> oh ok, so you did pass it on :p
[17:09] <BobFrankly> https://sites.google.com/site/thepihacker/ps2pi/files/ps2test.c?attredirects=0&d=1 <---This code is supposingly looking for a semicolon keystroke, but I'm trying to change it to something else. Anyone able to take a look and make a suggestion?
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[17:10] <BobFrankly> I was thinking it's the 0x4c references, but everything I see seems to point to that being the "L" key
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[17:12] <avrdude> that is the most unreadable program i've ever seen
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[17:14] <BobFrankly> I'm usually tooling around in basic javascript or powershell, so I can make out the structure...but it's still a bit greek to me
[17:15] <BobFrankly> it's supposed to produce the UART divisor for a keyboard, using some of the GPIO pins on the rpi for a PS2 port
[17:16] <BobFrankly> and there is a tiny circuit in there as well
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[17:50] <flounders> avrdude: You should see the entries for the obfuscated C contest.
[17:51] <flounders> BobFrankly: Is the compiler throwing an error or is this a run time issue?
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[17:54] <shiftplusone> avrdude: "We've checked it, it works for us, he has done something wrong." =P (I'll bring the callipers in tomorrow)
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[18:30] <gnirtS> can anyone help me wiring up the pi2 GPIO port as a normal rs232 serial port? I've got a max2323 level converter but it comes out as a female db9 and i need a male (im trying to receive inputs from a serial weather station)
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[18:43] <Sonny_Jim> Just lookup the pinouts for the max2323
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[19:10] <thmas> Hey, a quick question, does my pi need to be powered off when I plug breadboard & stuff to GPIO or will I just burn my house down?
[19:10] <thmas> dont wanna break my brand new pi :(
[19:11] <shiftplusone> If you know what you're doing, no. If you want to be on the safe side, yes.
[19:11] <shiftplusone> A general rule of thumb is plug the ground in first.
[19:12] <thmas> All right, powered down it is, at least for now :P
[19:12] <thmas> Thanks!
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[20:03] <shiftplusone> avrdude, ping?
[20:03] <BobFrankly> flounders: both run, but the keyboard device I'm using (arcade controller) does not have a semi-colon key
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[20:04] <BobFrankly> flounders: so it's not a "bad code" issue, it's more of an "I need to customize it so I can make it work in my odd scenario" situation
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[20:08] <nullfaith> Not sure if any of you are well versed in sd cards but, I am getting an error when I try to use gparted on mine. Says /dev/sde: unrecognised disk label, Input/output error during write on /dev/sde, Error fsyncing/closing /dev/sde: Input/output error. Ideas?
[20:08] <nullfaith> Thanks in advance.
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[20:20] <qubitnerd> shiftplusone: 64 bytes from avrdude : icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 time=10.1ms
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[20:20] <qubitnerd> :P
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[20:23] <shiftplusone> >_<
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[21:13] <PigFlu> why does the rpi have M2.5 mounting holes and not M3?
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[21:13] <pksato> rpi don`t have mounting holes.
[21:14] <PigFlu> rpi 2 does
[21:15] <pksato> any versions of rpi don't have mounting hole.
[21:15] <pksato> read http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=30556
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[21:21] <BobFrankly> also: http://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-pi-rev2-template-with-mounting-holes/
[21:21] <ali1234> i don't get it
[21:21] <ali1234> does any version have mounting holes or not?
[21:21] <ali1234> either they do or they don't
[21:22] <methuzla> there are indeed mounting holes on the A+, B+ and pi2
[21:22] <methuzla> but not on the original A and B, they were alignment holes
[21:23] <ali1234> and are they 2.9mm or proper M3?
[21:23] <BobFrankly> there are "holes" but they are not re-enforced for mounting purposes
[21:24] <BobFrankly> tighten them too much and you could fatally crush the PCB.
[21:24] <ali1234> BobFrankly: so you are saying that no version has mounting holes?
[21:25] <BobFrankly> ali1234: I'm saying that the makers of the raspberry pi says there are no mounting holes
[21:25] <methuzla> ali1234 did you read what i posted?
[21:25] <ali1234> where did they say this about the A+ and B+ and 2?
[21:25] <ali1234> methuzla: yes i did. i also read what BobFrankly posted and it seems like you guys disagree
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[21:26] <BobFrankly> ali1234: in what way?
[21:26] <methuzla> ali1234 original B+ release post: http://www.raspberrypi.org/introducing-raspberry-pi-model-b-plus/
[21:26] <methuzla> ali1234 which says: "and added four squarely-placed mounting holes."
[21:27] <ali1234> BobFrankly: so according to that the B+ does have actual mounting holes
[21:27] <pksato> that is problem to go a hardware store and buy a bag of M2.5 bolts, nuts and spacers? :)
[21:28] <methuzla> PigFlu why M2.5? i dunno. guess for the smaller size.
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[21:29] <BobFrankly> ali1234: I'm only concerned with the rpi2. I took from your earlier comments that you were as well. Was I wrong?
[21:29] <ali1234> BobFrankly: yes
[21:30] <ali1234> ali1234: does any version have mounting holes or not?
[21:30] <methuzla> i give up
[21:30] <BobFrankly> well read through the comments at http://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-pi-rev2-template-with-mounting-holes/
[21:30] <ali1234> rev2 != rpi2
[21:31] <BobFrankly> ah, pigflu said rpi2...blurring names
[21:31] <BobFrankly> there are some suggestions for mounting with nylon snap-in fasteners that shouldn't put any strain on the PCB
[21:32] <ali1234> so as i understand it, the early models had holes but they were not suitable for use as mounting holes. the A+ and B+ and everything since then has proper mounting holes
[21:32] <methuzla> correct
[21:32] <BobFrankly> methuzla: read that link above
[21:32] <BobFrankly> "A word of warning: Pete Lomas always asks me not to refer to the holes, which are there to aid the robots in the production process, as mounting holes. (Don�t look at the title, Pete.) This is because enthusiastic screwdriver wranglers can compress and fatally crush the PCB by tightening screws too firmly. If you screw your board to something, you�re doing so at your own risk!"
[21:32] <ali1234> that link is over two years old
[21:33] <ali1234> it was written before the A+ and B+ existed
[21:33] <methuzla> BobFrankly rev2 != rpi2
[21:33] <PigFlu> well, im going to use the "mounting holes" to fasten my hat
[21:33] <PigFlu> and it sucks they havent used M3
[21:34] <BobFrankly> bah blurring numbers again
[21:34] <methuzla> PigFlu as you should. that's why they are there.
[21:34] <BobFrankly> feels like a damn monday
[21:35] <PigFlu> so, i have another question.. i was stupid and didnt bring the pi with me right now when ordering spacers etc.. about how much space is there between the pi and the hat, if a "normal" female header is used to connect with the pins?
[21:36] <pksato> rpi is a small board, holes are waste of space. 3mm hole need a ~7mm protecion ara.
[21:36] <pksato> area
[21:36] <PigFlu> i guess i could look up the datasheet for the header, but does anyone know at the top of their head?
[21:36] <ali1234> it's about 1cm
[21:36] <pksato> in diameter.
[21:37] <methuzla> PigFlu check out the spacer size specs here: http://www.adafruit.com/products/2336
[21:37] <PigFlu> so a 15mm screw will do
[21:37] <ali1234> 11mm ... i was pretty close eyeballing it :)
[21:38] <PigFlu> methuzla: how exactly do those work..? you have to screw something in at the bottom as well right?
[21:38] <ali1234> those standoffs are stackable as well
[21:38] <methuzla> PigFlu yes. i think the idea is to make them stackable.
[21:39] <PigFlu> ugh.. im not even gonna bother checking how much shipping is with adafruit
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[21:42] <methuzla> PigFlu shop around. it's pretty generic fastening hardware. although maybe not easily found in the local bin stock at the hardware store.
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[21:43] <PigFlu> they have loads on ebay, luckily
[21:44] <ali1234> they are a standard PC component. or used to be
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[21:44] <McBride36> PigFlu, adafruit shipping is nuts
[21:44] <McBride36> you could try mcmaster carr
[21:45] <McBride36> for hardware
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[21:47] <shauno> I just get 'em by the sack from china. all I've run into is that 10 & 12mm are common enough, 11mm aren't
[21:48] <ali1234> there plenty of give with hats anyway
[21:48] <ali1234> 10 and 12 probably work fine. it might curve if you have loads of them though
[21:49] <PigFlu> i bought both 10 and 12mm.. ill try adding a washer on the 10mm and will also try cutting the 12mm shorter :p
[21:49] <shauno> well, I tend to stick to nylon fixings, so you can botch whatever you want with a small file :)
[21:49] <shauno> https://github.com/raspberrypi/hats says between 10 & 12mm
[21:49] <ali1234> indeed. washers should work, i doubt you'll be able to cut the metal ones through, unless you have a workshop
[21:50] <PigFlu> i bought nylon ones
[21:50] <PigFlu> but yea, i do have a workshop
[21:50] <PigFlu> but shaving off 1mm would be difficult i think
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[21:56] <avrdude> shiftplusone: It's possible i messed up, but I dont't see how :(
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[22:02] <ali1234> https://plus.google.com/+AlistairBuxton/posts/hGj6yTYxhfT
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[22:03] <shauno> that looks fun .. not sure I'd make the lens the contact surface for collisions though ;)
[22:03] <ali1234> i only got the lens today
[22:04] <ali1234> i will mount the camera further back when i've figured out what i am doing with the roof and the headlights
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[22:04] <ali1234> it's only one of those magnetic things though, so it will just fall off if it hits something
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[22:05] <PigFlu> one question: why are you using google+?
[22:05] <Tachyon`> what are those patch wires called used for arduino/pi gpio, generally male/female pins at each end, usualyl sold in ribbons you split up, not sure what to ebay for
[22:05] * Tachyon` growls at google+
[22:05] <PigFlu> Tachyon`: jumper wires
[22:05] <Tachyon`> got rid of it and things keep trying to m ake me sign up again
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[22:05] <Tachyon`> ah, thanks
[22:05] <ali1234> PigFlu: because it's awesome
[22:06] <PigFlu> you could also have searched for "arduino wires"
[22:07] <PigFlu> but not making your own cables is pretty pleb/10 tbh
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[22:08] <Tachyon`> life is too short
[22:08] <PigFlu> also, those 40- or 20-packs you get from ebay usually smell like poison
[22:08] <Tachyon`> if it was something permanent I perhaps would make my own but it isn't, so I'm not, lol
[22:08] <ali1234> people started calling those connectors "dupont" but i never heard of that until a few months ago
[22:09] <PigFlu> life is too long, imo
[22:10] <Tachyon`> ah yes, it called them dupont on the set I just bought
[22:10] <PigFlu> that is the connector
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[22:11] <Tachyon`> PigFlu, I'm 40 in under 2 days, it isn't, heh.
[22:11] <ali1234> my victorinox actually has a "dupont" crimp tool on it, it's brilliant
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[22:12] <ali1234> i'm not sure if it's intentional but it works
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