#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2015-04-03

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[0:02] <Criggie> Hi all - I just got a pi 2 and I'm tempted to try mythtv... has anyone run mythfrontend on a pi 2 ?
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[0:11] <shiftplusone> avrdude, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/175702/2015-04-01%2019.04.29.jpg
[0:11] <teknic111> is there no xbmc distro for the pi2?
[0:11] <shiftplusone> teknic111, of course there is.
[0:11] <shiftplusone> there's openelec
[0:11] <shiftplusone> and you can just apt-get install kodi in raspbian.
[0:11] <Criggie> shiftplusone: mad-props for old-school vernier caliper :)
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[0:12] <shiftplusone> avrdude, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/175702/2015-04-01%2019.05.25.jpg ... seems to match the mechanical drawing.
[0:12] <shiftplusone> Criggie, heh
[0:12] <cybr1d> It's alive! http://goo.gl/C8gvcJ http://goo.gl/JadtNo http://goo.gl/Qde2A4
[0:13] <shiftplusone> what's it for?
[0:13] <teknic111> thanks, I give openelec a try
[0:14] <shiftplusone> np, it's pretty polished
[0:14] <teknic111> cool
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[0:15] <Criggie> cybr1d: nice. The screen looks rather good too.
[0:16] <Criggie> Is there any way to do composite video into a Pi? Or would a USB framegrabber be the only answer?
[0:16] <cybr1d> yea, better than i expected. it's the 3.5" resistive touch pitft from adafruit
[0:16] <cybr1d> i like having a mobile pi. emulators, piratebox, and a plug n play media center. now it's not headless until i find a tv :) perfect lil screen.
[0:16] <Criggie> cybr1d: whats the resolution ?
[0:17] <cybr1d> 480x320
[0:17] <Criggie> not bad at all.
[0:17] <cybr1d> nothing to brag about, but enough to get the job done
[0:17] <Criggie> Now that I'm playing with this pi2 I'm seeing all sorts of possibilities.
[0:17] <Criggie> Always wanted a KITT in my car ;)
[0:17] <cybr1d> haha yea
[0:18] <cybr1d> i keep wanting to upgrade my car with an Pi or tablet of some kind
[0:18] <cybr1d> im lazy tho lol
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[0:26] <Lorduncan> Hey
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[0:27] <Lorduncan> what do you think about make a site to site VPN/firewall between 3 Offices with a Raspberry Pi 2 and OpenSwan?
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[0:29] * shiftplusone isn't familiar with openswan =(
[0:31] <Lorduncan> any sugestion tomake my plan?
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[0:33] <shiftplusone> presumably, one of the offices already has an always-on computer that's more suitable than a pi 2?
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[0:37] <Strykar> Lorduncan, depends on the amount of traffic you plan to push
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[0:38] <Lorduncan> the trafic will be like 12 users in main, 2 + 2 in the "slaves"
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[0:38] <Strykar> total traffic in Mbit/s
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[0:39] <Lorduncan> i couldnt say , but 10Mbits is the top speed of the ADSL we have
[0:39] <Lorduncan> so 10Mbits
[0:41] <Strykar> 10 Mbit/s down or up? the traffic you're attempting to push will determine if it'll work and it likely won't do 10Mbit/s for an office
[0:41] <Lorduncan> down
[0:41] <Lorduncan> up is like 1Mbit
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[0:42] <Froolap> my isp is backwards, it's giving me 10mbp up and 3 mbp down.
[0:42] <Strykar> so how do you expect to push more than 1mbit up
[0:42] <Lorduncan> u are right
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[0:43] <Lorduncan> the push will be 1mbit
[0:43] <Froolap> load it into a ram drive
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[0:43] <Strykar> get 1 RPi2 and an old computer, set your nic to max out at 1 Mbit/s and test it to confirm
[0:43] <Strykar> no idea about getting openswan to work with it, what's wrong with openvpn or ipsec
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[0:44] <Lorduncan> nothing wrong... some one sugested me openswam as a good thing to make this
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[0:45] <Lorduncan> i already have 3 old devian machines(pentium4) doing that VPN/firewall
[0:45] <Lorduncan> it works good, but i need make an upgrade cuz they are there since 2005
[0:45] <Strykar> and what's the cpu consumption on it, do you have histograms/metrics
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[0:46] <Lorduncan> so i thought to change them in RPi 2 to get less power use and less space and more "easy" to replace if some stop working
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[0:46] <Lorduncan> idk how to check that in a debian machine
[0:47] <Lorduncan> the cpu load , i mean
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[0:48] <Strykar> Lorduncan, it's cake on debian, setup munin: https://www.linode.com/docs/uptime/monitoring/monitoring-servers-with-munin-on-debian-6-squeeze
[0:49] <Lorduncan> its a "woody"
[0:49] <Strykar> you'll get a woody once you set it up
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[0:50] <Lorduncan> Strykar: im scared about to install things on this machines
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[0:51] <Lorduncan> if something go wrong and they stop working i have absolutely no body to fix them
[0:51] <Strykar> you're looking to improve your current setup, if you can't measure it, you cannot hope to improve it
[0:52] <Lorduncan> all the test must be in the new configuration
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[0:52] <Strykar> good luck
[0:52] <Lorduncan> or i will need do a HDD clone of that debians before start "playing" with them
[0:52] <Lorduncan> and i am away from there :(
[0:53] <Lorduncan> far*
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[1:38] * Xark is skeptical -> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/now-theres-a-secure-boot-add-on-for-raspberry-pi-oh-yay/
[1:41] <pinion> is dd the best way to backup the sd on a mac? Or is there a faster tool?
[1:41] <shiftplusone> on a mac running what?
[1:42] <shiftplusone> You can use clonezilla, for example.
[1:42] <pinion> Yosemite
[1:42] <Xark> pinion: Unlikely to be significantly faster as bottleneck is the media (but I guess it may skip unused partition space etc.)
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[1:42] <pinion> Right, of this 16GB I bet 4GB is used
[1:42] <shiftplusone> (clonezilla takes care of that)
[1:43] <pinion> Then am I stuck using clonezilla to restore the image?
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[1:45] <teknic111> can the pi not stream 1080p smoothly?
[1:46] <teknic111> on wifi that is
[1:46] <pinion> your wifi will be the bottleneck, yes
[1:46] <pinion> I've streamed 1080p over ethernet just fine
[1:47] <pinion> can't remember how it was over wifi but I'm fairly close to my router and the server is over ethernet
[1:47] <teknic111> is it a limitation of the usb bus on the pi?
[1:47] <pinion> so it was probably fine. I moved on to a chromecast so it's been awhile since I used a pi as a media streamer
[1:47] <pinion> no, it's a limitation of the network and the usb wifi dongle you buy
[1:48] <pinion> if it were a limitation of the usb bus you wouldn't be able to play a 1080p file off a thumb. Which you can just fine
[1:48] <teknic111> right
[1:49] <Xark> teknic111: Ethernet goes through USB too, so probably not.
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[1:53] <teknic111> I'm currently using this adapter, which advertised if worked well with xbmc... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00H95C0A2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[1:54] <teknic111> but it won't stream 1080p
[1:54] <teknic111> can anyuone recommend an adapter that will actually work well?
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[1:57] <Criggie> cybr1d: well - my car is an old landrover, and its now got a reversing camera and a video game console
[1:57] <pinion> I have the edimax one
[1:57] <Criggie> cybr1d: want to add more cameras, and that screen looks excellent
[1:58] <pinion> http://www.amazon.com/Edimax-EW-7811Un-150Mbps-Raspberry-Supports/dp/B003MTTJOY/
[1:58] <pinion> but, the best dongle in the world won't matter if your router sucks
[1:58] <teknic111> my router is the best
[1:59] <teknic111> wrt1900ac
[1:59] <Xark> I have an Edimax and it works fine, but this dongle seems to be faster for me with RPi2 -> http://www.amazon.com/SABRENT-Mini-Wireless-802-11N-Adapter/dp/B005LWZKQ6
[1:59] <teknic111> there should be no issue
[1:59] <pinion> What makes it the best?
[1:59] <teknic111> wrt1900ac
[2:00] <pinion> ah yes, the old just keep repeating myself argument
[2:00] <teknic111> every bell and whistle you can ask for on a consumer router
[2:00] <pinion> I'd suggest plugging the pi into the router via ethernet and see what the output is
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[2:00] <teknic111> ethernet is no problem
[2:00] <teknic111> it's just wifi
[2:01] <teknic111> the bottleneck must be in the adapter
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[2:03] <Criggie> remember wireless ethernet uses way more CPU power than a wired connection
[2:04] <pinion> plug the adapter into a laptop and see if there's any problems streaming over wifi that way
[2:04] <pinion> just make sure you use the laptop in the same spot the pi is in
[2:04] <teknic111> good idea
[2:04] <teknic111> i'll also monitor the pi's cpu
[2:04] <teknic111> although this is a pi2 and should not be an issue
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[2:06] <jasabella> hi
[2:07] <jasabella> is there like a list of usb wifi adapters that are compatible with r-pi2 and also support bridging?
[2:07] <pinion> Not sure but I found these instructions: http://www.daveconroy.com/turn-your-raspberry-pi-into-a-wifi-hotspot-with-edimax-nano-usb-ew-7811un-rtl8188cus-chipset/
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[2:08] <pinion> might not be the best read but google: raspberry pi bridge
[2:08] <pinion> or something
[2:09] <jasabella> i was thinking more for kvm
[2:09] <jasabella> but ok
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[2:11] <jasabella> is it the same?
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[2:16] <pinion> Sorry, kvm?
[2:16] <pinion> like, the virtualization or the thing that allows you to share a keyboard video and mouse?
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[2:38] <teknic111> can the raspberry pi2 be powered from any usb port?
[2:38] <ShorTie> not really
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[2:39] <ShorTie> needs a 2.5amp power supply to take full advanage of everything
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[2:39] <teknic111> i'm using an old alfa network adapter with my pi, but it requires a lot of power
[2:40] <ShorTie> http://www.raspberrypi.org/help/faqs/#powerReqs
[2:40] <teknic111> im gewtting the not enough power square in the corner of my screen
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[2:48] <ShorTie> sounds like you need a better power supply then
[2:50] <teknic111> i take it i cant just plug 2 usb ports into my wall socket
[2:50] <Triffid_Hunter> teknic111: the RPi needs a rock solid 5v at 1A or so, but most phone chargers allow the voltage to drop as the current climbs which is disastrous. That's why we say get a 2.5A one
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[2:51] <ali1234> just git a A+, it only needs 500mA
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[2:52] <ali1234> speaking of, what's the lowest power using linux SBC?
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[2:54] <ShorTie> technically, 1A is not enough for a RPi when the poly fuse can pass 1.1A .. :/~
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[3:19] <devinmcelheran> Does anyone here have experience with Screenly?
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[3:29] * Xark does a quick benchmark, and wget'ing a 64MB file on RPi2 from: Ethernet ~11.2M/sec, EdiMax WiFi ~1.6M/sec, Sabrent Wifi ~1.8M/sec (so Sabrent was indeed a little bit faster).
[3:30] <shiftplusone> doubt that's a reproducible result
[3:30] <Xark> shiftplusone: Perhaps not, but I repeated each test three times. Seems good for my setup.
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[3:31] <Xark> shiftplusone: Probably depends on AP
[3:31] * Xark has older Apple Time Capsule
[3:31] <shiftplusone> AP, noise on the channel and so on.
[3:31] <shiftplusone> I was trying to do similar benchmarking and found that the results were all over the place
[3:31] <shiftplusone> ended up sticking a pi and a laptop in a microwave to narrow things down >_<
[3:32] <ShorTie> nuke-n-boot, cool
[3:32] <Xark> I could see that. Not too much WiFi "traffic" near me (but some - suburban neighborhood).
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[3:33] * Xark will repeat the test in dead of night to see if that changes results
[3:33] <Xark> For me bottom line is, stick with wired. :)
[3:33] <shiftplusone> There's a guy on youtube who took a little wifi module (the cheap one with the ARM on it with a name I will never remember), threw it on a 3d printer and mapped the ping times. Then he got a cool 3d voxel thing of the signal strength.... I don't know where I'm going with this, but it was cool.
[3:34] <Xark> shiftplusone: Yeah, I saw that on HaD. Neat idea.
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[3:35] <shiftplusone> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqqEYz38ens
[3:35] <Xark> shiftplusone: Also http://iq.intel.com/visualizing-the-ghostly-wifi-waves-that-surround-us/ or http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/this-is-what-wi-fi-would-look-like-if-we-could-see-it for "fake" versions. :)
[3:36] <shiftplusone> so yeah, that's why I don't trust wifi benchmarks too much... https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/feedback.png
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[3:37] <Xark> shiftplusone: Yeah. Well, I do trust Ethernet to be (nearly) an order of magnitude faster for me. :)
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[3:38] <shiftplusone> yeah, you should be able to get line speed assuming your equipment isn't terrible
[3:38] <Xark> shiftplusone: You mean wired?
[3:38] <shiftplusone> yeah
[3:39] <Xark> shiftplusone: Right. I think I need to get a new AP, as my Internet is faster than my WiFi (problem for e.g., tablet without wired Ethernet).
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[3:41] * Xark believes he has a "g" router, but probably wants "n". :)
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[3:59] <ShorTie> check then N's out before you buy, there are like 3 or 4 different speeds of N
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[4:04] <Hasselsaurus> Or go AC, it's getting cheap enough
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[4:05] * plugwash suspects AC will be even worse than N in that regard
[4:06] <ozzzy> 150mb/s n is cheap
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[4:24] <exo-squad> do people chat in here?
[4:25] <ozzzy> yep
[4:25] <exo-squad> i have a question. How awesome is the raspberry pi 2?
[4:25] <ozzzy> as awesome as any tool
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[4:26] <exo-squad> i have a model A and B and i love the things.
[4:26] <ozzzy> they're faster than the B
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[4:26] <exo-squad> im glad i never got a b+
[4:26] <ozzzy> they work too
[4:27] <exo-squad> im curious if emulators would run way better on the rpi 2
[4:27] <ozzzy> which emulators
[4:27] <exo-squad> mame. maybe something fancy like n64
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[4:28] <ozzzy> LOL... couldn't say... I outgrew games with Adventure on the VAX
[4:28] <exo-squad> i had my model a setup as a stand alone NES emulator. it was pretty neat for that
[4:28] <exo-squad> i hope i never outgrow games...
[4:29] <ozzzy> I don't play at all these days
[4:29] <ali1234> n64 might be pushing it
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[4:30] <ali1234> playstation 1 should be just about doable
[4:30] <exo-squad> im not really into the new games... like uber graphic photo realistic thingie things.
[4:30] <ozzzy> SPYBERT!!!
[4:30] <spybert> hi ozzzy
[4:30] <exo-squad> ali1234, didnt the regular pi do psx okay?
[4:30] <ozzzy> how the HELL are you
[4:30] <ali1234> exo-squad: i doubt it did it "okay"
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[4:30] <spybert> ozzzy: still breathing.
[4:30] <Hasselsaurus> Pi 2 is doing N64 okay I heard
[4:30] <ali1234> maybe for a subset of games...
[4:30] <Hasselsaurus> But it's a work in progress
[4:30] <ozzzy> spybert, me too LOL
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[4:34] <exo-squad> what about MAME tho?
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[5:08] <Hasselsaurus> depends on the game/version
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[5:29] <chamunks> Hasselsaurus I wonder if someones made a good usb interface or something like that for an n64 controller :P
[5:29] <chamunks> Just wouldn't feel right playing those games without it.
[5:30] <McBride36> worst controller ever
[5:32] <exo-squad> McBride36, atari jaguar.
[5:32] <McBride36> thankfully i'm only young enough to remember the n64
[5:33] <exo-squad> nobody really remembers the jaguar tho. so even those old enough never saw it
[5:33] <McBride36> just googled it, looks mameish
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[5:36] <cheesenbiscuits> Hi All
[5:37] <abnormal> llA iH
[5:37] <cheesenbiscuits> :)
[5:38] <abnormal> lol
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[5:44] <cheesenbiscuits> I cannot get these crontab to run...
[5:44] <abnormal> crontab?
[5:45] <cheesenbiscuits> yes, a script in my crontab won't run on my new pi2 but runs on my old one...
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[5:46] <abnormal> ahh... supin to do with slight mod to script... have to ask a guru.
[5:47] <cheesenbiscuits> yep
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[6:59] <cheesenbiscuits> This crontab is killing me!
[7:00] <Chillum> /etc/init.d/cron stop
[7:00] <Chillum> kidding. whenever I have crontab trouble it is because the environment variables are different
[7:00] <Chillum> like PATH
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[7:01] <cheesenbiscuits> Seriously... I have two pi's, one old, one new, both running the same script, but the crontab on the new pi won't work...
[7:01] <turtlehat> echo $PATH
[7:02] <Chillum> is the whole cron file failing, or just the one line?
[7:02] <cheesenbiscuits> echo path? in the crontab?
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[7:02] <cheesenbiscuits> I only have one crontab...
[7:02] <Chillum> yes, the environment is very different there
[7:02] <Chillum> well add another, see if the whole file is being rejected or just your command
[7:02] <cheesenbiscuits> I'm running it as root crontab.
[7:03] <Chillum> strip it down to echoing hello world into a file, once that works add complexity one step at a time till you find the problem
[7:03] <cheesenbiscuits> The problem is the only error log I seem to says that it wants to output the log to a e-mail.
[7:03] <Chillum> use absolute paths for all commands
[7:03] <cheesenbiscuits> which is no use at all.
[7:03] <cheesenbiscuits> ok.. I know the scripts run.
[7:03] <Chillum> do you own logging
[7:04] <cheesenbiscuits> I have!...
[7:04] <cheesenbiscuits> Feb 17 22:47:36 raspberrypi2 /usr/sbin/cron[2004]: (CRON) INFO (pidfile fd = 3)
[7:04] <cheesenbiscuits> Feb 17 22:47:36 raspberrypi2 /usr/sbin/cron[2009]: (CRON) STARTUP (fork ok)
[7:04] <cheesenbiscuits> Feb 17 22:47:36 raspberrypi2 /usr/sbin/cron[2009]: (CRON) INFO (Running @reboot jobs)
[7:04] <cheesenbiscuits> Feb 17 22:50:01 raspberrypi2 /USR/SBIN/CRON[2305]: (root) CMD (/usr/bin/flock -xn /tmp/flocktmp.lock -c "/home/pi/scripts/SB_sync")
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[7:05] <cheesenbiscuits> I just get these logs over and over....
[7:05] <cheesenbiscuits> Feb 17 22:50:01 raspberrypi2 /USR/SBIN/CRON[2305]: (root) CMD (/usr/bin/flock -xn /tmp/flocktmp.lock -c "/home/pi/scripts/SB_sync")
[7:05] <cheesenbiscuits> Feb 17 22:52:09 raspberrypi2 /USR/SBIN/CRON[2304]: (CRON) info (No MTA installed, discarding output)
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[7:10] <pksato> SB_sync run normally of called from a shell?
[7:11] <cheesenbiscuits> What do you mean pksato?
[7:11] <pksato> if run manually.
[7:13] <Chillum> Is you script running and giving an error, or is it not running? does anything in your script rely on paths or environment variables?
[7:13] <cheesenbiscuits> The script runs fine when I run it manually.
[7:14] <cheesenbiscuits> It's an rsync script to a remote server.
[7:14] <pksato> and, generate output?
[7:14] <cheesenbiscuits> It generates the files it rsync's onto my external hard-drive
[7:17] <pksato> why not have a MTA? is not raspbian?
[7:18] <cheesenbiscuits> It's raspbian. I don't know how to setup an MTA>
[7:19] <pksato> most distribuition install a mta (or a dummy) as defaut.
[7:19] <pksato> have sendmail command?
[7:21] <cheesenbiscuits> no sendmail command.
[7:22] <giddles> sendmail nice ;)
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[8:18] <shay_shay> Exim4 is default for debian
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[8:19] <shay_shay> Just "dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config" and answer the questions
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[8:20] <shay_shay> pksato:
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[9:07] <turtlehat> what do i write on the command line (raspbian) to see how much memory im using?
[9:08] <cheesenbiscuits> top
[9:08] <turtlehat> right, thanks
[9:08] <Myrtti> free -h
[9:09] <turtlehat> nicer, thansk
[9:09] <Myrtti> also linuxatemyram.com or something to that direction
[9:10] <turtlehat> im not panicing, i am loading a bunch of wave files into memory, and i would like to know how close i am to the ceiling heheh
[9:11] <turtlehat> i dont care about free mem
[9:11] <turtlehat> free mem is mem i could be using
[9:11] <turtlehat> :p
[9:12] <clever> free -m is another
[9:13] <clever> free will also list the used ram in each category
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[9:23] <cybr1d> So I almost have a RasPi touchscreen camera.. http://goo.gl/knBSUO
[9:23] <cybr1d> Just cant get the damn screen full size..
[9:25] <clever> cybr1d: is it showing up as a normal framebuffer, or a custom lib?
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[9:49] <_puddle_> hello, any one using kodi-standalone in raspbian that has successfully fixed the exit bug?
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[9:51] <cybr1d> Almost got it. http://goo.gl/mwjXwf http://goo.gl/8WIeu0
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[9:58] <fno> have anybody used RISC OS Pi? I just have a try, but can't work it well.
[9:58] <fno> how to develop on it?
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[10:10] <ShorTie> ls
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[10:36] <Criggie> cybr1d: you're having fun I see.
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[12:10] <knightwise> hey everyone
[12:10] <knightwise> question : is there a command line ubuntu version for the pi ?
[12:10] <knightwise> I know Ubuntu mate is coming to the PI2 , but what if I don't need a gui ?
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[12:17] <Kryczek> knightwise: hi
[12:17] <Kryczek> I don't know about Ubuntu on the Pi but you could always do like I do with Raspbian: remove all the packages that you don't need :)
[12:17] <Kryczek> someone even made a list, I'll try to find it, just a sec
[12:18] <knightwise> on the other hand you can just install raspbian and then NOT boot into the gui
[12:18] <knightwise> you have this option with Raspbian .. I'm wondering if you can also do that with ubuntu mate
[12:20] <Brutussss> not starting the gui? you can always turn that off
[12:20] <Kryczek> true, but having had to update one of my Pi's on a slow link and seeing the Wolfram engine package starting to download I prefered to remove everything :)
[12:20] <Brutussss> in /etc/default/grub turn quiet splash into text
[12:20] <Kryczek> +huge
[12:21] <knightwise> I installed mps-youtube on it and connected a speaker , now I can have it play youtube music mixes
[12:22] <Kryczek> knightwise: have you looked into Mopidy?
[12:22] <Kryczek> I have done the same as you except with Mopidy I also have TuneIn (radios), Spotify, etc
[12:23] <knightwise> that looks interesting
[12:23] <knightwise> I had checed out pi-musicbox
[12:23] <Kryczek> knightwise: this guy even makes Pi images just for that: http://www.woutervanwijk.nl/pimusicbox/
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[12:23] <Kryczek> yeah I basically reproduced PiMusicBox on Raspbian because I wanted the flexibility
[12:24] <Kryczek> in fact I am speaking to you from that exact Pi
[12:24] <jasabella> pipipi
[12:24] <knightwise> yep , I tested that. its a tad slow though. The great thing with using Mpsyoutube is that there is a LOT of music on youtube
[12:24] <Kryczek> (it's running my IRC client too :)
[12:24] <knightwise> Same here :)
[12:24] <knightwise> i run : irssi, newsbeuter, 2 instances of ttytter and mpsyoutube (and I use it as an ssh endpoint to tunnel back home with sshuttle)
[12:25] <Kryczek> knightwise: I don't know about mpsyoutube, maybe it is good, but in case you want to look at Mopidy at some point what I have is https://github.com/dz0ny/mopidy-youtube and it works too :)
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[12:27] <heller\> knightwise: what is sshuttle?
[12:27] <Kryczek> knightwise: nice! irssi too and I have just SSH'd to it through another Pi running OpenVPN as I am on holiday now
[12:27] <Kryczek> I didn't know about sshuttle either
[12:27] <Kryczek> "Transparent proxy server that works as a poor man's VPN. Forwards over ssh. Doesn't require admin. Works with Linux and MacOS. Supports DNS tunneling. "
[12:27] <Kryczek> knightwise: out of curiosity, why not OpenVPN?
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[12:29] <knightwise> I love using sshuttle for my ssh tunnels , its very easy to configure and you can choose if you want to do a split vpn (when you are at work) or a full tunnel (when you are in a coffeeshop)
[12:29] <knightwise> heller\: sshuttle is a very simple command line app to tunnel ALL your traffic through an ssh tunnel
[12:30] <knightwise> Kryczek: doesnt work with macos anymore (since yosemety)
[12:30] <Kryczek> knightwise: what doesn't? OpenVPN?
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[12:30] <heller\> knightwise: oh
[12:31] <knightwise> its very cool to use , i run ubuntu 14.04 on my Surface pro 1 tablet , and I use sshuttle to connect back home (using my Pi as an ssh endpoint)
[12:31] <Kryczek> sounds good
[12:32] <Kryczek> knightwise: do you run your SSH server on port 443 then?
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[12:32] <knightwise> nope , 22
[12:33] <Kryczek> nothing wrong with that, but you might find on some WiFi hotspots like in airports etc they only allow 53/UDP (maybe TCP too), 80/TCP and 443/TCP for DNS, HTTP and HTTPS
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[12:35] <heller\> knightwise: can you still use ssh normally? :)
[12:35] <Kryczek> I think you can have several ListenAddress lines in your sshd_config so that you could have both 22 and 443 if you want
[12:35] <knightwise> sure , sshuttle sets up an ssh connection just like ssh does
[12:35] <knightwise> so yes, you can ssh through sshuttle
[12:35] <Kryczek> otherwise you can redirect one to the other with your NAT port forwarding settings on your DSL router, or with the REDIRECT target of iptables
[12:36] <knightwise> you only have to port forward one port for sshuttle :)
[12:36] <Kryczek> knightwise: also the most annoying networks might check what protocol you are using on port 443, and unfortunately SSH is significantly different from HTTPS
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[12:37] <Kryczek> whereas both HTTPS and OpenVPN have SSL/TLS as the outer layer so it's hard to tell the difference :)
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[12:38] <Kryczek> knightwise: I know I meant if you want to also forward 443 so that you can connect even through those (fairly common) WiFi hotspots that do not let you use port 22
[12:38] <knightwise> true ,
[12:38] <knightwise> thats also a way to go about it .
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[12:40] <heller\> knightwise: do you need sshuttle on both ends or only on t he server side?
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[12:48] <knightwise> heller\: nope , you just need an ssh server on one end and a shuttle on the client side
[12:48] <heller\> okies
[12:48] <heller\> too bad
[12:48] <heller\> usually my client is windows :p
[12:49] <knightwise> heller\: thats a bummer :(
[12:50] <knightwise> i used to have it on my mac but the latest update broke it too :(
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[13:17] <heller\> yeah
[13:17] <heller\> but i might have some usage for it server to server :)
[13:19] <knightwise> heller\: that is true
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[14:27] <therion23> quick question: the analogue video output on the Pi 2, is that the jack plug?
[14:28] <ShorTie> ya
[14:28] <ozzzy> yep
[14:29] <ozzzy> 4-pole 3.5mm
[14:29] <therion23> so the end of a jack would be signal and the "body" is the ground?
[14:29] <ozzzy> it's 4 pole... so stereo audio and comp video in one port
[14:29] <therion23> ahh .. so that is the magick of it
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[14:29] <therion23> makes a lot more sense now
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[14:29] <ShorTie> http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2014/07/raspberry-pi-model-b-3-5mm-audiovideo-jack/
[14:30] <therion23> so basically i could wire strip an old Nokia headset and solder that into a SCART plug the right way and tada?
[14:30] <ozzzy> yep... that's the theory
[14:31] <therion23> oh cool .. then i have all i need here :)
[14:31] <Froolap> I don't think I've ever seen more than a 3 pole jack though.
[14:32] <therion23> 4 pole jacks are very common in headsets when you have stereo audio and mic in one cable
[14:32] <Froolap> I don't think I've seen that either, just mono and mic.
[14:32] <therion23> so you have left, right, mic and common ground
[14:33] <therion23> always a good reason to save your old electronic junk cos some day you might need it and suddenly it isnt junk anymore hehe
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[14:35] <Froolap> Cool, found one.
[14:35] <Froolap> http://www.amazon.com/Parts-Express-3-5mm-Plug-Cable/dp/B0007V6JCK/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1428064473&sr=8-3&keywords=1%2F8+4+pole+jack
[14:36] <Froolap> I don't know if the audio/video channels would be correct, maybe ground is on the wrong pole, but it's a start.
[14:37] <therion23> the link ShorTie pasted with the pinout is very valuable info for sure
[14:38] <heller\> does the 3.5mm plug output video by default just as HDMI?
[14:38] <therion23> its composite, so it should
[14:39] <therion23> i have my old model B hooked up via composite and SCART and its always on when it comes to analogue video
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[14:41] <Brutussss> compsite and scart?
[14:41] <Brutussss> wow I haven't heard those terms in years
[14:41] <therion23> hehehehehe
[14:42] <Brutussss> I remember I had this small TV with an actual tube in it and a VHS with scart on it
[14:42] <therion23> try go to your local hardware store and asked for a composite converter and theyll go HUH?
[14:42] <Brutussss> those were the days
[14:42] <Brutussss> haha
[14:42] <Brutussss> I don't have a single device in my home that supports that stuff
[14:43] <therion23> i got one of the original Philips 2.35:1 flat screen TV's a couple days ago and thought hey that would be nice for a Pi
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[14:43] <Brutussss> ahh cool
[14:43] <Brutussss> is it a big one?
[14:44] <Brutussss> i don't own a TV anymore
[14:44] <therion23> that, combined with the fact i just moved places here, means i know i have everything i need to hook it up, but the actual task of finding a wire cutter in all these boxes will be a challenge hehe
[14:44] <therion23> narh, just 32" but full HD
[14:44] <Brutussss> a wirecutter, like, a normal multitool?
[14:45] <Brutussss> I always just cutters to cut it off and the knife to strip the rubber of the cable
[14:45] <Brutussss> I hopefully get a Pi 2 tomorrow :)
[14:45] <therion23> like, whatever it takes to scrape the insulation off the ends of a couple of wires
[14:45] <Brutussss> I use a pocket knife for that
[14:45] <Brutussss> easiest way to do it
[14:45] <therion23> in the worst case i can use a nail scissor, not that hard
[14:45] <Brutussss> roll it over your fingers
[14:46] <Brutussss> I do it all the time with vehicles
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[14:46] <therion23> those three-in-one thingies you can cut and file nails with, they are excellent for cable prepping too
[14:46] <Brutussss> lol yeah you can probably use anything for it
[14:46] <ozzzy> that's what I use
[14:46] <Brutussss> i can do it with normal scissors
[14:46] * ozzzy strips wires with his teeth
[14:46] <Brutussss> that's what I can't do
[14:46] <ozzzy> my dentist is horified
[14:46] <Brutussss> my dentist is always horified
[14:46] <therion23> thats kinda barbaric, and you never knew where said wire was before :>
[14:46] <Brutussss> weakest teeth ever
[14:47] <Brutussss> I once tried to remove a piece of nail from my finger that was broken but still attached in a tiny spot. my front tooth broke but the nail was still attached
[14:48] <ozzzy> with small wires I find it works better than the strippers
[14:48] <therion23> hope youll like your Pi 2, if you slap a HD onto it, it can actually do a decent performance with MariaDB and MySQL
[14:48] <Brutussss> HD? mariadb?
[14:48] <therion23> hard drive
[14:48] <Brutussss> oh
[14:49] <therion23> and mariadb is the "new" open source version of mysql
[14:49] <Brutussss> oh
[14:49] <Brutussss> don't need that
[14:49] * ozzzy uses either a 320G platter drive or a 60G ssd with his pi
[14:49] <Brutussss> nice
[14:49] <therion23> i do .. cos i run xbmc across a number of computers and they need to share the movie database
[14:49] <Brutussss> ohhh yeah I understand that
[14:49] <Brutussss> wasn't planning on using it for that
[14:49] <ozzzy> http://ozzzy.dyndns.org:8080/rpi-lots.html
[14:50] <Brutussss> what's on the left?
[14:50] <Brutussss> is that the pi case?
[14:50] <Brutussss> want to use it as an arch desktop
[14:51] <Brutussss> i hope it performs well
[14:51] <Brutussss> just need another display and a power supply and I'm set
[14:52] <ozzzy> yep... that's a cheap chinese case
[14:52] <ozzzy> $4 as I recall
[14:52] <Brutussss> ahhh ok
[14:52] <Brutussss> oh that's cheeaappp
[14:52] <Froolap> can't I use max_usb_current=40 in config.txt?
[14:52] <ozzzy> 1... it's on off not 'how much'
[14:52] <Froolap> uh, i mean.... what does that do?
[14:52] <therion23> mine was pretty cheap too .. its curved on the top though so they dont stack
[14:53] <ozzzy> yep... I don't care about stacking... there's velcro for that
[14:53] <therion23> but it has gaps where youd want to get wires out so thats fine with me
[14:53] <therion23> and yes, before i moved, mine was velcro'ed under a stairway haha
[14:54] <therion23> only way i could get decent 4G signal
[14:54] <ozzzy> mine just has to hit the wifi
[14:54] <therion23> i used it as 4G router
[14:54] <ozzzy> I don't have a cellphone
[14:55] <therion23> not exactly the optimal solution but i couldnt get adsl where i lived before
[14:55] <therion23> so had to improvise
[14:55] <Brutussss> velcro'ed? dude I welded it to a steel pipe XD
[14:55] <therion23> welded? holy hoot haha
[14:55] <Brutussss> hehe
[14:55] <Brutussss> just kidding ofc
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[14:56] <therion23> mate, id buy a pack of chewing gum and fix things that way if it meant getting me online hahahaha
[14:56] <Brutussss> haha
[14:56] <Brutussss> that would work
[14:56] <Brutussss> just let it dry before you use it
[14:56] <Brutussss> silly putty would work better though
[14:58] <therion23> yeah well, gotta make use of what you have at hand
[14:58] <therion23> guess with a bit of creativity then even playdoh would work
[14:58] <Brutussss> it would
[14:59] <Brutussss> or duct tape
[14:59] <therion23> actually, totally off topic but related to this, i saw a photo series of an Italian artist who went around and repaired broken house walls with LEGO bricks
[15:00] <therion23> damn, it was soooo awesome
[15:00] <Brutussss> have you seen pictures of moss graffiti?
[15:00] <therion23> id love a LEGO case for my two pi's
[15:01] <fthc> Hey, quick question: anyone ever used an UBEC/Buck converter?
[15:01] <therion23> yeah rings a bell
[15:01] <fthc> Basically I've got an old led solar lamp circuit, panel and battery
[15:02] <fthc> Which outputs 6v
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[15:02] <Brutussss> fthc: never heard it, might work though
[15:02] <fthc> wanna know if a buck converter would do the job for the pi 2
[15:02] <Brutussss> but I'm not an electrician
[15:02] <therion23> i wish i could answer that but thats quite a bit beyond my knowledge
[15:03] <fthc> okay :)
[15:03] <therion23> my solar panel came with a 5V converter already so i never tinkered beyond that
[15:03] <Brutussss> I was advised here to use this PSU: http://www.ebay.nl/itm/331404873167
[15:03] <fthc> something else then : can I just strip a microusb cable and plug rewire red/black
[15:04] <Brutussss> just don't know how I can rewire that to the pi
[15:04] <fthc> -plug
[15:05] <fthc> that's 110/220->5v, I need 6->5 :!
[15:05] <therion23> out of all the USB devices i ever had, i have never fried anything from messing up the polarity
[15:05] <Brutussss> yeah it wasn't a comment toward you specifically
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[15:06] <therion23> you cant even jump start an anthill with 5v and 500mAh
[15:06] <Brutussss> 500 isn't going to do anything
[15:07] <therion23> well, it runs my old Pi, it doesnt need more
[15:07] <Brutussss> http://www.adafruit.com/products/1385
[15:07] <therion23> my Pi 2 runs off the charger for a Lenovo tablet, think its 1200mAh
[15:08] <Brutussss> yeah but you can't overclock it probably
[15:08] <therion23> i dont need to
[15:09] <therion23> and i dont have anything hooked up to it except for a bunch of LEDs anyway so 1200 is way enough
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[15:10] <Brutussss> i ordered the 220V -> 2A/5V led PSU
[15:11] <fthc> Why?
[15:11] <fthc> why not just use a usb charger ?
[15:11] <therion23> 2A should power just about any crazy idea you can come up with
[15:12] <fthc> I've got a 2A usb charger
[15:12] <Link> some matrices would easily become more
[15:12] <Link> s/become/need
[15:12] <therion23> sure, but in that case, you already know you need external power
[15:13] <Link> true
[15:13] <therion23> or hopefully you do hehe
[15:13] <Link> yeah lol
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[15:13] <fthc> oh : can I just link one power source to 2 microusb?
[15:13] <fthc> Or do I need an usb hub or something
[15:14] * Link links a power plant to 2 microusb ports
[15:14] <therion23> id use a hub .. cos a USB port gives a max of 500mAh and you dont wanna share that
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[15:14] <fthc> nah, it's coming from a 3A source
[15:14] <fthc> (a buck converter)
[15:14] <therion23> oh, that will most likely work then
[15:15] <fthc> nice
[15:15] <therion23> what do you need powered from it? a Pi?
[15:15] <fthc> Pi 2 and a portable speaker
[15:15] <therion23> with 3A? that sounds doable
[15:16] <therion23> if i was the gambling kind id even wager a bit on that working
[15:16] <fthc> Just looked and the speaker input is 5V1A
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[15:17] <therion23> and a Pi 2 runs stable with 850mAh here, so i think you are good to go
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[15:17] <fthc> great
[15:17] <fthc> just gotta wait for the buck converter then
[15:18] <fthc> was hoping it would have arrived today but apparently not :(
[15:18] <therion23> its easter, holidays, no shipping ..
[15:18] <therion23> waiting for a pile of books from Amazon myself
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[15:18] <fthc> oh right
[15:18] <fthc> damn
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[15:19] <fthc> wont receive it monday either then :(
[15:19] <therion23> nah, world wont go back to normal till Tuesday
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[15:20] <fthc> there's a hobby shop near me, might just go check there
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[15:22] <therion23> everything here is closed except for the middle eastern restaurants
[15:23] <therion23> which is quite okay on both accounts cos they make the best food in the area anyway :)
[15:23] <fthc> Only monday here
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[15:24] <fthc> (I'm in belgium)
[15:24] <therion23> ahhh .. lived in Gent for a year
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[15:25] <therion23> i am in Copenhagen, and here easter spans from Thursday to Monday .. so five days of absolutely nothing going on haha
[15:25] <fthc> wow
[15:26] <fthc> Oh
[15:27] <fthc> I've got plenty of questions
[15:27] <fthc> does the Pi 2 overheat easily?
[15:27] <therion23> mine hasnt, so far, really, thats all i can say
[15:27] <pisto> I'm trying to add a GPIO keypad. I'm getting this message in dmsg: "gpio-keys soc:pistomachine: could not find pctldev for node /soc/interrupt-controller, deferring probe"
[15:28] <therion23> really havent had probs with overheating, then again, i only overclocked it by about 100
[15:28] <pisto> here's the dts fragment: http://pastebin.com/jPfcSNDc
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[15:28] <therion23> and it surely got its beatings when i compiled mariadb on it
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[15:29] <therion23> only heat issue ive found is that it has a tendency to heat up the SD card more than is healthy, but the pi 2 itself stays okay
[15:30] <fthc> I just touched my sd card, and yeah it's quite hot, oO
[15:31] <fthc> Pi's about 49°c
[15:31] <fthc> pisto: sorry, can't help you
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[15:31] <therion23> thats not bad .. any CPU should be able to do 65C without problems, otherwise, its a major design flaw
[15:33] <fthc> Yeah
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[15:53] <therion23> aight, im gonna try and make that composite cable for the pi 2
[15:54] <therion23> thank you for the good hints, ShorTie and ozzzy, and you all be safe and happy easter!
[15:54] <fthc> gl
[15:54] <therion23> ty, i think i have it figured out hehe
[15:54] <Chillum> When I crank all 4 cpus for hours on end it gets up to about 62C, but I have cheap $1.50 heat sinks on them
[15:55] <Chillum> they seem to run fine. My CPUs get hot but not my microsd
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[15:55] <Chillum> though if you have a write heavy application the microsd may get hot, consider a little usb memory stick if so
[15:55] <fthc> good to know
[15:56] <Chillum> the usb stick will get hot instead but they can handle it better than a microsd I think
[15:56] <fthc> It's just that I'm gonna put the Pi with a lead battery and a few other things in a wooden box, so I gotta know if it can take the heat
[15:56] <ozzzy> Chillum, those heatsinks do nothing... mine gets to 64 with 4 cores maxed in a case
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[15:57] <Chillum> ozzzy: the one without the sink, 67, the one with the sink 61. If there is even a slight breeze that difference increases significantly
[15:57] <Chillum> they allow the heat to disperse into the air better. If you notice not effect you likely have no air circulation
[15:57] <Chillum> or you don't have very good thermal adhesive
[15:58] <ozzzy> yep... if you have airflow heatsinks work much better.... my atom machine with only heat sink burns along at 80C.... with a fan blowing on the sink 29C
[15:58] <ozzzy> LOL
[15:58] <Chillum> all it does is increase the surface area
[15:58] <Chillum> 80 is getting near the failure point hehe
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[16:37] <Tenkawa> hi all
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[16:37] <Chillum> yo
[16:38] <Tenkawa> whats new around here?
[16:43] <gtrmtx> one of my coworkers gave me a streusel cake this morning...there's that
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[16:45] <McBride36> my server crashed. that's new
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[16:46] <gtrmtx> McBride36: what kind of server?
[16:47] <McBride36> virtual, debian 7 or something.
[16:47] <McBride36> using xenserver on the actual machine lol
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[16:48] <gtrmtx> McBride36: I find this to be a very effective solution: http://xkcd.com/1495/
[16:49] * Tachyon` blinks
[16:49] <Tachyon`> if you'd done that running ext2 you'd have come a cropper in no time
[16:50] <gtrmtx> i kid i kid :)
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[16:56] <Tenkawa> oops . brb
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[17:11] <gerrynjr> Just came to say that the quad core Pi is really great
[17:12] <gerrynjr> Just about all the shortcomings I had of the original have been addressed
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[17:12] <Hasselsaurus> It seems to boot a lot faster
[17:12] <Hasselsaurus> which I dig
[17:12] <Tenkawa> indeed
[17:12] <Tenkawa> it is a very nice unit
[17:12] <Chillum> gerrynjr: yes indeed. Now if we could just get gigabit ethernet
[17:13] <Tenkawa> Chillum: heheh I hear ya
[17:13] <gerrynjr> Not so long as the Ethernet is tied to usb 8(
[17:13] <gerrynjr> Might as well ask for mpcie
[17:13] <gerrynjr> For high speed flash
[17:14] <gerrynjr> But as a 35$ computer? It rocks
[17:14] <Hasselsaurus> Sure does
[17:14] <Tenkawa> yep
[17:14] <Hasselsaurus> I still need a Pi 2, running a Pi 1 over here
[17:14] <gerrynjr> Powerful enough for me to dabble in robotic video processing
[17:14] <Chillum> other $35 mini boards can do gigabit, not through USB though. I think we will see it on the PI 3
[17:14] <gerrynjr> And image recognition
[17:14] <Chillum> it surely rocks
[17:14] <Hasselsaurus> Yeah I heard Pi 3 is still 2-3 years off though
[17:15] <Chillum> it can finally read a QR code in a reasonable amount of time
[17:15] <gerrynjr> I also have the odroid-c1, but it still has multi threading issues
[17:15] <Hasselsaurus> Pi never tried to be the fastest thing out there, it was aiming for solid support
[17:15] <Chillum> Glad to find that out
[17:15] <gerrynjr> It likes to use just one core, even under multithreaded loads
[17:15] <Chillum> the odroid-c1 looks neat, but I want a bit of history behind it before I buy any
[17:16] <Tenkawa> gerrynjr: i've thought about gettig the xu1 i think it is
[17:16] <Chillum> I like to use all cores at 100% 24/7
[17:16] <Chillum> its how i roll
[17:16] <Chillum> anything less is a waste of a computer hehe
[17:16] <gerrynjr> Yeah, at the moment, the community is small, and software support lacking
[17:16] <gerrynjr> Bought it right before the pi2 was released
[17:16] <gerrynjr> Sort of regret it
[17:16] <Tenkawa> gerrynjr: whichever than new odroid is
[17:17] <Chillum> I am happy that the success of the Pi is spurring on a whole industry of these little computers
[17:17] <Chillum> people wanted them so bad they had been hacking routers for years
[17:17] <gerrynjr> Yeah, competition is good
[17:17] <Armand> Chillum: I'm loving the specs on the C1.. I'm planning to buy 5.
[17:17] <Tenkawa> wissh microcenter carried hardkernel stuff
[17:17] <gerrynjr> I used to hack routers and usb NAS devices before the pi
[17:18] <Chillum> I remember trying to get my tplink WR703N running tor, could not handle it
[17:18] <Tenkawa> so I could buy one and try to compare
[17:18] <gerrynjr> If anyone wants a c1, I've got one with a case and 16 or 32gb emmc, can't remember
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[17:18] <gerrynjr> Just buy the c1 board, and the rest is yours
[17:18] <gerrynjr> Plus shipping, of course
[17:19] * Link tp's
[17:19] <Tenkawa> are emmc's very good in general (the module ones)
[17:19] <gerrynjr> I don't usually sell stuff on irc
[17:19] <Hasselsaurus> what could go wrong? lol
[17:19] <gerrynjr> Performance is much better compared to sd
[17:20] <Tenkawa> ahhh
[17:20] <Tenkawa> I might go pick up a few then
[17:20] <Tenkawa> microcenter is so handy
[17:20] <gerrynjr> Hasselsaurus: Bitcoin would make the transaction nonreversible
[17:22] <Hasselsaurus> gah I wish I were near a Microcenter
[17:22] <Hasselsaurus> They had Pi 2s for $29
[17:23] <gerrynjr> I've got one an hour away
[17:23] <gerrynjr> If it were any closer, it would be dangerous
[17:24] <Chillum> gerrynjr: If you will accept bitcoins I will get that C1 from you
[17:24] <Chillum> I am in Canada though
[17:24] <Chillum> I want to try that out
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[17:26] <gerrynjr> Sounds like a plan
[17:26] <Chillum> will pm
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[17:40] <Tykling> I have removed a button from my desk, it used to run the table up and down. Three wires, a common and two more that when shorted with the common wire move the table up and down, respectively
[17:40] <Tykling> can I connect the wires to the gpio ports on the RPI and control the table from linux?
[17:41] <Tykling> or do I need an external gate/switch/something
[17:41] <Chillum> I would recommend using a relay
[17:41] <Tykling> ok
[17:41] <Chillum> the gpio is not a pass through, it turns low amp 5v on and off
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[17:42] <Tykling> I might have something in this big bag of electronics I borrowed, what am I looking for?
[17:42] <Tykling> Chillum: right, ok
[17:42] <Tykling> I thought it might not be that easy :)
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[17:42] <Chillum> something like this: http://itsbrent.net/images/RasperryPi-Garage.png
[17:43] <Chillum> they are cheap on ebay. You can make one yourself if you have a relay and the right stuff
[17:43] <Chillum> it should isolate the pi from the relay as the magnet can feed current back into the pi
[17:43] <Chillum> those boards have isolaters built in
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[17:45] <Chillum> sounds exactly like my camera control switch being hooked up to an arduino. Two wires, one for focus one for shutter and a common ground
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[17:54] <Tenkawa> hey again
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[17:55] <Tenkawa> anyone know a linux-tablet channel on freenode?
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[17:59] <sydney_untangle> Whats a good 8gig sd card on amazon for >8$ with free shipping?
[18:00] <Chillum> >$8 or <$8?
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[18:02] <Froolap> I've had good luck with sansdisc
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[18:03] <Chillum> as long as they are not fake they tend to work reasonably well per their specs for any major brand. Avoid ebay for cards, they are almost all fake
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[18:12] <sydney_untangle> ,8$
[18:12] <sydney_untangle> <
[18:13] <sydney_untangle> Ok, maybe run to the store then.
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[18:14] <El`> hello
[18:15] <El`> i was running MATE on raspbian and my browser shows some pages rendered like diagonaly
[18:15] <El`> can someone help me fix that?
[18:15] <Tykling> Chillum: thanks
[18:15] <El`> im running chromium btw
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[18:21] <Tenkawa> anyone heard any update on windows on the pi yet?
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[18:26] <sydney_untangle> Tykling: nope...
[18:26] <Mackledoge> fuckkkkk
[18:26] <sydney_untangle> oops.
[18:26] <Mackledoge> my rpi won't boot :c
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[18:28] <tchiwam> Got my 1st Rpi2 ordered ... can't wait and see the difference in performance
[18:29] <mxtm> i'm considering buyin' one too
[18:29] <mxtm> i just have one b+, been playing with it more recently however
[18:29] <mxtm> awaiting a powered usb hub and then going to make a little fileserver / torrent box out of it
[18:29] <tchiwam> I have 4 Rpi B+
[18:29] <tchiwam> I use mine to do Northern light time lapse in IR + visible
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[18:31] <Mackledoge> What to do?
[18:31] <Mackledoge> My RPi won't boot no matter what
[18:31] <Chillum> tchiwam: neat
[18:31] <mxtm> Mackledoge: are you powering it correctly
[18:32] <Mackledoge> mxtm, I am.
[18:32] <mxtm> you sure?
[18:32] <mxtm> where is it being powered from
[18:32] <mxtm> does it display any lights
[18:32] <tchiwam> Looks like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pcw85dwy8R8
[18:32] <Chillum> Do your pis do image processing or is it just a shutter control system?
[18:32] <Mackledoge> mxtm, It displays the orange light indicating power
[18:32] <Chillum> very neat
[18:33] <Chillum> the Pi 2 is so much faster
[18:33] <mxtm> Mackledoge: >orange
[18:33] <mxtm> isn't it red?
[18:33] <Mackledoge> I dunno
[18:33] <mxtm> i need more pis
[18:33] <Mackledoge> Vision is phucked up
[18:33] <tchiwam> Chillum: no image processing , save by nfs to my file server then it's stacked and max stacked (2nd half of the video), 100GB /night... need to recored 1 full year every nights
[18:34] <tchiwam> Still very rough, but I hope the pi2 will have enough oumph to do bg substraction and basic linearization
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[18:35] <Chillum> I think it will, what is the interval?
[18:36] <tchiwam> 6s exposure + saving time of about 6s, trying to get the save time to 0 or as close as possible to -
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[18:36] <Chillum> If you could save them to RAM before moving them along the network that would speed things up
[18:37] <tchiwam> Im writing a raspistill on diet just for that, then the file save will be threaded... I use the raw 10bit samples
[18:38] <tchiwam> I will dump the jpeg payload and keep only the bayer data
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[18:39] <Chillum> good way to do it. That must be large, you will need the extra ram on the pi 2
[18:40] <tchiwam> Not really 10 to 12MB /frame ...
[18:40] <tchiwam> in uint16
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[18:42] <tchiwam> I got sidetracked a little, I'm getting a peltier element to cool down the back of the sensor, I shove a thin plate of copper between the PCB and sensor, the temp should go down to -20C
[18:43] <tchiwam> Anyway the summer day is here over the arctic circle so it needs to be ready by next winter season.
[18:43] <Link> oh god the #dogecoiners ar ehere
[18:43] <Link> mxtm pls
[18:43] <mxtm> Link pls go
[18:44] <Link> mxtm: this is not your community therefore dont ask me to go
[18:44] <mxtm> did you buy your pis with the money you stole
[18:44] <Link> i never stole, but this is not the channel for that discussion
[18:45] <steve_rox> eh?
[18:45] <Link> eh!
[18:46] <skyroveRR> EH!
[18:46] <mxtm> link is stealer shud b bant
[18:47] <mxtm> anyways, so anyone use xfce on their pi
[18:47] <Link> mxtm: can i please play osu! without you yammering about things that never happened
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[18:50] <steve_rox> stealer of what
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[18:51] <KeksMan> steve_rox, just dont listen to him
[18:52] <KeksMan> hey just spreading fud
[18:52] <KeksMan> *hes
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[18:52] <mxtm> steve_rox: dogecoins
[18:52] <Link> steve_rox: if you really want to know, i used to have a bot in #dogecoin, but after a lot of drama i was accused of stealing dogecoins
[18:52] <Link> and now mxtm is spreading the drama everywhere \o/
[18:53] <nefarious> mxtm, Link, it might be an idea to take your conversation elsewhere
[18:53] <Link> ^
[18:53] <mxtm> i wasn't planning on continuing
[18:53] <mxtm> he kept it going
[18:53] <nefarious> you are continuing now.
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[18:59] <mxtm> so yeah, xfce on the pi, does anyone use it or are there better options
[18:59] <mxtm> i have a b+
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[18:59] <tchiwam> mxtm: I use e17
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[19:00] <sydney_untangle> mxtm: i3? :P
[19:00] <mxtm> sydney_untangle: i use dwm
[19:00] <sydney_untangle> CLI? :P
[19:00] <mxtm> on my main setup
[19:00] <sydney_untangle> Yeah, a little more popular.
[19:00] <mxtm> maybe i should use it on my pi
[19:00] <sydney_untangle> I like i3...
[19:00] <mxtm> i was just too lazy to configure and decided i'd just go simple yet still relatively lightweight
[19:01] <kodo_> Hi guys, I got myself a raspberrypi 2b with a hifiberry dac+ and am now thinking about what distro to use. I want to use it for audio-playback, mostly spotify and internet-radio. Looks like it comes down to volumio and pimusicbox...any suggestions maybe?
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[19:07] <shauno> runeaudio is another one worth keeping an eye on (the other half of the split from when raspyfi became volumio)
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[19:07] <kodo_> shauno: yes I had a look at it but I think it doesn't support spotify yet
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[19:08] <shauno> I've ended up back on raspbian so far because volumio was doing too much that was driving me nuts
[19:09] <kodo_> you mean like doing things automatically?
[19:10] <shauno> some things automatically, some things just not doing it the same way every other distro I've used would (like having mpd on a keepalive from within their own script instead of a bootscript)
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[19:11] <shauno> not so much a real complaint, just a grumpy old man not liking change :)
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[19:11] * K5BLX is a grumpy old man trying to work out a bug
[19:11] <kodo_> I see...I guess any of those will do the job
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[19:11] <kodo_> differences seem small and I'll just try them when I have some time :)
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[19:13] <mohitgupta322> Hello Everyone does anyone here owns a raspi camera module board ???
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[19:22] <mohitgupta322> Hello Everyone does anyone here owns a raspi camera module board ???
[19:23] <OffensiveUser> Some people here do
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[19:25] <K5BLX> ok I've got a brain twister
[19:25] <K5BLX> I'm a ham operator
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[19:25] <K5BLX> I've setup my rig to be controlled from my pi 2 with FLRig
[19:25] <K5BLX> and the digital modes app FLDigi to send audio through the rig
[19:25] <K5BLX> they use XMLRPC to communicate between the two
[19:26] <K5BLX> no matter what I've tried no dice
[19:26] <K5BLX> cannot get them to link up
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[19:26] <Chillum> mohitgupta322: you should just ask your question so when someone who does know about the camera comes in here sees it they can answer
[19:29] <strobelight> K5BLX: when all other comms go down, it's the hams that keep some going; thanks for what you do
[19:29] <K5BLX> hah thanks strobelight
[19:30] <K5BLX> if I can work out this bug I'll have a digital mode rig kit in a compact package
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[19:31] <Chillum> K5BLX: can you be more specific on where you are having trouble?
[19:31] <Chillum> that sounds like a very neat project
[19:31] <strobelight> I don't know what that is, all I can offer is to ensure the two are talking on the right ports when transferring the data
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[19:32] <K5BLX> well it seems xmlrpc libs are installed and I've installed both with xmlrpc
[19:32] <K5BLX> all settings check out
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[19:33] <mohitgupta322> Can the standard raspi camera board (green color one, not the noIR one) see the TV remote IR LED when flashed towards it?
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[19:36] <strobelight> K5BLX: no firewalls in the way?
[19:36] <K5BLX> tldr; this is the breakdown of how this setup works. Radio (ICom 7100) has a serial to usb adaptor and usb audio interface built into the unit. This in turn shows up as three devices on the pi. Audio in, audio out, and cat control (rig control for transmitting/receiving etc.) One application controls the TX/RX portion the other uses audio to decode the digital mode traffic on HF. They link up using XMLRPC on both are set
[19:36] <K5BLX> to this.
[19:37] <K5BLX> firewall shouldn't be an issue
[19:37] <K5BLX> this is all local, internal
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[19:38] <K5BLX> without one you can't key up the radio to send the audio being generated by the other
[19:38] <OffensiveUser> is it working with another computer?
[19:38] <K5BLX> it works great on my ubuntu box
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[19:38] <K5BLX> and the winbox
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[19:39] <K5BLX> the modulated audio is getting through to the rig, but it doesn't vox digital signals
[19:40] <K5BLX> so the modulating program needs to communicate to the rig controlling app that it needs to key up
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[19:40] <Chillum> are the voltage levels the same on your tx/rx line?
[19:40] <K5BLX> rx/tx is controlled over a single usb connection
[19:41] <K5BLX> inside the radio is a "usb hub" of sorts
[19:41] <Chillum> wait, what is the problem you are having? Not being able to key?
[19:41] <K5BLX> basically the app that keys the radio talks to the app that generates / receives the audio using XMLRPC
[19:41] <Chillum> and keying is done via the usb connection via serial interface but that is not working?
[19:42] <K5BLX> individually all of these connections are working
[19:42] <Chillum> is the red light on the pi going out?
[19:42] <K5BLX> but on the pi one app needs to communicate / trigger the other
[19:43] <Chillum> there are lots of ways for apps to talk to each other
[19:43] <K5BLX> these use xmlrpc
[19:43] <K5BLX> so I'm wondering if there is an issue with that on the pi
[19:43] <K5BLX> or how it is configured
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[19:43] <Chillum> an issue with xmlrpc on the pi? It would run the same software as another linux box
[19:44] <strobelight> K5BLX: which pi version do you have?
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[19:44] <K5BLX> pi 2
[19:44] <Chillum> it is not clear what the problem is. Are you trying to recreate something a windows program does?
[19:44] <K5BLX> no, both apps are native linux applications
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[19:45] <K5BLX> http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html that's fldigi
[19:45] <Chillum> perhaps you are writing to the native serial port instead of the usb serial port
[19:45] <K5BLX> http://w1hkj.com/flrig-help/index.html that's the controller ap
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[19:45] <Chillum> if you are using usb2serial there will be two serial ports, one goes to the GPIO pins
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[19:46] <K5BLX> the gpio shows up as /dev/AMA0 right?
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[19:46] <Chillum> yes
[19:46] <Chillum> you probably want /dev/ttyUSB0 or something like that
[19:47] <Chillum> that is how the pl2303 shows up at least
[19:47] <K5BLX> yeah /dev/ttyUSB1 in my case
[19:47] <K5BLX> usb0 is a audio usb device
[19:47] <Chillum> I see
[19:47] <Chillum> If you get this working you should post instructions somewhere
[19:47] <K5BLX> oh I am trust me
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[19:48] <Chillum> great
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[19:48] <K5BLX> getting it this far has been a three day on/off project
[19:48] <K5BLX> I've had to basically recompile every app
[19:48] <Chillum> what happens if you manually try to connect to ttyUSB1 and send a test XMLRPC packet
[19:48] <Chillum> try to isolate the point of failure
[19:48] <K5BLX> it doesn't really work that way
[19:48] <K5BLX> I go into one and connect to the rig to control its functions
[19:49] <K5BLX> the other application simply has "initialize XMLRPC" for to link the two
[19:49] <Chillum> http://search.cpan.org/~daan/XML-RPC-0.9/lib/XML/RPC.pm
[19:49] <K5BLX> for it*
[19:49] <Chillum> you can talk xml rpc if you want to
[19:50] <K5BLX> but raspbian should have xmlrpc libs in the distro correct?
[19:50] <Chillum> this may help: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/12359/how-can-i-monitor-serial-port-traffic
[19:50] <Chillum> if you can see the traffic, or lack of traffic you can figure out what is failing
[19:51] <Chillum> which libs? for which language?
[19:51] <K5BLX> well it was xmlrpc for C++
[19:52] <K5BLX> let me burn through a few of these solutions and see if I can iron this bug out, thanks Chillum
[19:52] <K5BLX> I may end up trying a python implementation
[19:52] <Chillum> libxmlrpc-c++4-dev
[19:53] <K5BLX> ^ that's it
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[19:53] <Chillum> good
[19:55] <obedmr> hi there, I hava a raspberrypi 2 that is not booting. Red and Green ligths are on. Green is not blinking and no HDMI output. I have formatted SD card many times. Does anyone knows how to fix it? thanks
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[19:57] <Chillum> does the sd card work on a different pi?
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[19:57] <Chillum> if you have another
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[19:58] <obedmr> well, I dont have other, but it was working before, I have tried with 2 diferents sd cards
[19:58] <obedmr> and the same problem
[19:58] <Chillum> could be a bad image, bad sd card or bad pi
[19:58] <Chillum> oh
[19:58] <Chillum> so either a bad image or bad pi
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[19:58] <Chillum> how are you writing the image?
[19:58] <Chillum> and which image?
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[19:59] <obedmr> dd
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[20:00] <obedmr> I'm also followed the ArmArch instructions http://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv7/broadcom/raspberry-pi-2
[20:00] <Criminalised> lol
[20:00] <Criminalised> That's exactly what I wanted to ask
[20:00] <Criminalised> I actually did do on #openelec
[20:01] <kisak> hi, I'm looking to do relatively safe overclocking on my RPi2 with the goal of just barely playing 1080p60 twitch streams
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[20:06] <skwishy> wifi?
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[20:06] <skwishy> what's the best 802.11ac usb adaptor that works with rpi2?
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[20:07] <ShorTie> any with Linux drivers
[20:07] <skwishy> cool, but any specific recommendation?
[20:07] <ShorTie> any with Linux drivers, lol.
[20:08] <ShorTie> sorry, the all work
[20:08] <skwishy> are the drivers usually already supplied in rasbian?
[20:08] <ShorTie> i like 1 with a antenea personally
[20:08] <ShorTie> normally
[20:08] <skwishy> or do they usually need to be downloaded/installed manually?
[20:09] <kisak> does anyone know if I can push h264_freq above 250 with just over_voltage=2?
[20:09] <ShorTie> they are part of Linux and are normally in raspbian
[20:10] <skwishy> awesome... I love linux
[20:10] <kisak> also, is there some tool that tells me the core usage percent?
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[20:10] <kisak> core / h264 engine / gpu, anything related
[20:11] <ShorTie> a quick posible check, is to use locate and see if it finds the chipset
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[20:11] <ShorTie> like 'locate 8192' returns /lib/modules/3.18.7+/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rtl8192cu and stuff
[20:12] <ShorTie> thus you know that the realtek 8192 chipset drivers are built and in raspbian
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[20:19] <skwishy> cool, thanks for the tips ShorTie
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[21:39] <mattwj2002> hi all :(
[21:39] <CoJaBo> ?
[21:39] <mattwj2002> oh I am just disappointed....I want my codecs but it could take up to 72 hours
[21:39] <mattwj2002> :(
[21:40] <CoJaBo> I'd just reencode everything to avoid the need for it lol
[21:40] <mattwj2002> :P
[21:41] <mattwj2002> CoJaBo: what formats can it decode out of the box?
[21:41] <CoJaBo> Pretty much everything but MPEG2
[21:41] <mattwj2002> VC-1 that is windows media player format right?
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[21:42] <CoJaBo> I forget; I don't see that one much
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[21:42] <mattwj2002> okay
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[21:42] <mattwj2002> I wonder if it supports mp4 and h264 out of the box....
[21:42] <mattwj2002> hmmmm
[21:42] <CoJaBo> My laptop can do MPEG2 to MPEG4 in realtime, so I don't even have to convert them on disk
[21:43] <mattwj2002> nice CoJaBo
[21:44] <CoJaBo> what are you trying ot pleay?
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[21:44] <CoJaBo> to playt
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[21:45] <mattwj2002> some mp4 and h264 files
[21:45] <mattwj2002> I have the rpi 2
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[21:47] <mattwj2002> CoJaBo: to be honest....I didn't even try them
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[21:48] <CoJaBo> Those would play without the codec
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[21:52] <cdbob> So...
[21:52] <cdbob> Other than a print server, what can one use a first gen raspberry pi for?
[21:52] <nefarious> nothing
[21:53] <nefarious> the only purpose it can serve is a print server :/
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[22:02] <Chillum> cdbob: you could install wifi, gps and kismet and make a war walker
[22:02] <cdbob> I could do all that on my hp touchpad though
[22:02] <Chillum> If the 1st gen can do enough power for those things
[22:03] <Chillum> it does not need much ram though
[22:03] <cdbob> The first gen is pretty limited for other things though
[22:03] <cdbob> it's too slow to be a decent htpc
[22:03] <Chillum> you could run a print server from that too
[22:03] <cdbob> I could
[22:03] <cdbob> but a raspberry pi makes more sense
[22:03] <cdbob> I'm still waiting to find out whether or not the newest raspberry pi is fast enough to use as an htpc
[22:03] <Chillum> is that the one with 256mb ram?
[22:04] <jmw> Run minidlna on my B+ without issue
[22:04] <Chillum> the pi 2 runs kodi very well
[22:04] <Chillum> the B+ ran kodi slow on the menus but video was fine
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[22:05] <Chillum> let me check how much ram it is using
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[22:08] <Chillum> kodi is using about 202 megs of ram, I don't think it would work on a 256mb pi
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[22:09] <Chillum> it needs gpu ram, and it might peak at more
[22:10] <Chillum> you could make a half decent vpn gateway with it, if you don't need a lot of bandwidth
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[22:14] <kevinsan> cdbob, I have a 1st gen as a nagios server to monitor stuff from my ADSL.
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[22:16] <cdbob> couldn't your router do that?
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[22:18] <krule> hi, will a 5V 1A power supply be enough for the raspberry pi 2?
[22:18] <krule> 1GB ram one
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[22:19] <Matt> should be
[22:19] <krule> i
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[22:19] <krule> i
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[22:19] <krule> dammit
[22:20] <krule> i'm planning on running some simple stuff on it, nginx and some python scripts
[22:20] <krule> nothing heavy
[22:21] <kisak> what you run on it is irrelevent to the power needs
[22:21] <kisak> it's what you attach to it and overclocking where it matters
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[22:23] <teknic111> my b+ no longer holds my sd card in place. It just spits it right out. Is there any fix for this?
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[22:25] <ozzzy> teknic111, hot glue
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[22:33] <Stephini> what would it mean if alliedelectronics says Traceability data (i.e., Date Code, Lot Code) for this item is currently unavailable under the pi in my cart?
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[22:40] <ozzzy> it means that the pi doesn't have a date code or lot number
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[22:44] <Stephini> i got that much. but does that mean that one wouldn't be able to buy it or that it'll take longer to arrive or something? just trying to figure if i should switch to a different one of the reccomended vendors.
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[23:39] <_pash> hello, im trying to set up lirc, and i managed to irrecord the keys, but irw gives no output however mode2 does, any ideas?
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[23:46] <Froolap> sounds like fun
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