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IRC Log for 2015-04-07

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[0:12] <Froolap> I would like to see my rpi2 running at 900 mhz, but all it ever does is 600 mhz and seems laggy. I don't think it's actually capable of running faster
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[0:15] <tpw_rules> in raspbian, is stuff from rc.local logged anywhere?
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[0:43] <Sonny_Jim> tpw_rules: No, you have to setup logging yourself
[0:43] <Sonny_Jim> So foo_command > /var/log/foo.log
[0:43] <tpw_rules> is there any sort of logger or is the accepted way to > ~/log.txt or similar
[0:43] <tpw_rules> ok. thanks
[0:43] <Sonny_Jim> Froolap: It varies the CPU speed according to demand
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[0:50] <Froolap> Sonny_Jim: what varies the cpu speed by demand? I know that something is governing it..... but what?
[0:50] <Sonny_Jim> So, let me guess, you want the CPU to run at 900MHz all the time, even when it doesn't need to?
[0:51] <meLon> Does anybody know of a Fingerprint Reader that... well... End-Game I'm going to hook it up to a database, so I'm hoping I can find one that uses more software than storing only a few prints in FLASH. Any suggestions?
[0:51] <Froolap> why not? it beats waiting 30 seconds for my typing ls -la to show up on the screen so I can hit enter
[0:52] <Sonny_Jim> That's not the CPU governor doing that
[0:52] <Sonny_Jim> But anyway, you can turn that off, have a look in the wiki under overclocking
[0:52] <Sonny_Jim> The reality is, turning off the governor won't make any difference
[0:53] <Froolap> something is lagging the system terribly, the pi B+ is faster running the same job.
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[0:53] <Sonny_Jim> The governor takes microseconds to change the CPU speed, so it's not that
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[0:54] <Froolap> maybe it's not the govenor, but the system as a whole.....
[0:55] <Froolap> and yeah it would be nice to see it running at it's advertised speed just so I can see if there's any difference
[0:56] <Sonny_Jim> It *is* running at the advertised speed (if you've setup the overclock options properly), it's just when it's idle it turns the CPU back down
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[0:57] <Froolap> I have not touched anything overclock and don'yt see any of those options in config.txt
[0:57] <GeekDude> raspi-config has overclock menu
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[0:57] * Sonny_Jim picards
[0:57] <Froolap> I'm not running raspbarian. :)
[0:57] <GeekDude> aww
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[0:58] <McBride36> hey Sonny_Jim, i figured out the issue earlier on. thanks for your help
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[0:58] <Sonny_Jim> McBride36: Np
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[0:59] <Froolap> I have a feeling that I'm running the PI2 as a B+
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[1:00] <Sonny_Jim> Froolap: If you read the Pi wiki it explains how to enable overclocking
[1:00] <Sonny_Jim> http://elinux.org/RPiconfig#Overclocking
[1:01] <Froolap> i wasn't so much interested in overclocking as I am making sure I'm not underclocking. as it never seems to go above 600mhz
[1:02] <cehteh> how did you check that?
[1:03] <cehteh> the ondemand governor will put it into low freq when the load is low
[1:04] <Froolap> I'm not seeing any of the overclocking options listed in my /boot/config.txt
[1:04] <Sonny_Jim> That's because you have to add them yourself
[1:04] <Sonny_Jim> If you used rasbian this conversation would be a lot shorter ;-) sudo raspi-config
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[1:09] <Froolap> i would like to know what is governing the cpu speed and how to communicate with it.....
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[1:09] <jer> my guess is the gpu itself, as it's the one who starts the arm cpu up. the short answer is, you can't.
[1:09] <Froolap> echo 300 >>/proc/system/cpu/core3 perhaps.
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[1:10] <cehteh> # cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies
[1:10] <cehteh> 600000 1000000
[1:10] <cehteh> .. and other files in that dir
[1:10] <cehteh> for each core
[1:10] <jer> oh that kinda stuff
[1:10] <cehteh> the kernel managed that
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[1:10] <cehteh> you have a few knobs you can adjust, but usually defaults are already good
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[1:11] <cehteh> and you only seed 900 or 1000Mhz when there is some load on the system
[1:11] <cehteh> try while :; do :; done &
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[1:12] <Froolap> thanks. rebooting
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[1:20] <trelane> Blessed, or Blessed in Indiana?
[1:20] <trelane> the meanings are totally different
[1:21] <trelane> also is there any chance I'm going to fire up my Raspi 2 and find out that the microUSB port is also a console port (I hope?)
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[1:22] <Sonny_Jim> Nope
[1:22] <Sonny_Jim> power only, no data
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[1:23] <trelane> Sonny_Jim, that's really a shame, it's the onyl feature of the beaglebone black that keeps me occasionally having to use it for a project
[1:23] <Sonny_Jim> There's a whole heap of GPIO you can use instead
[1:24] <Sonny_Jim> But yeah, no +5v RS232 makes me a sad panda :-(
[1:24] <trelane> indeed there is, sadly the 24 pin connector is the standard so this project requires that, and I'm about out of pins :(
[1:24] <trelane> fortunately as things become more mature those other GPIO's are going to become available
[1:24] <Sonny_Jim> You can always use a different pin
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[1:38] <teknic111> hello
[1:39] <teknic111> what is the best way to make a system image of my pi's os?
[1:40] <Sonny_Jim> dd if=/dev/SDCARD_DEVICE of=/path/to/output_file.img then run a compressor on it
[1:40] <Sonny_Jim> so bzip2 or something
[1:40] <teknic111> can it be done in windows?
[1:40] <Sonny_Jim> No, you can use the sd writer app to do it though
[1:40] <teknic111> i basically want to move my retropie os to a bigger sd card
[1:40] <Sonny_Jim> Forget the name, win32diskimager or whatever
[1:41] <teknic111> yes, i believe you are right
[1:41] <cehteh> just rsync the stuff over to the new card
[1:41] <teknic111> how
[1:42] <cehteh> rsync -axPAHS / /where/you/mounted/the/new/filesystem
[1:42] <Sonny_Jim> I believe that using a laptop will be about a million times faster ;-)
[1:42] <teknic111> cool
[1:42] <teknic111> ill give it a shot
[1:42] <cehteh> dunno, my SD-Cards are not faster on a laptop than on the rpi
[1:42] <Sonny_Jim> And with rysnc you'll still have to setup the boot partition
[1:43] <Sonny_Jim> It's much easier to just image it, write the image then expand the filesystem
[1:43] <cehteh> techwave61: that only copies the rootfs and doesnt go into submounts (-x)
[1:43] <cehteh> depending on your setup you need to copy mounts separately and/or partition the card for a boot and root filesystem first
[1:44] <cehteh> yes just expand the fs may work too, but not all filesystems are good with that
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[2:34] <Ownix> hey guys just got my Pi2, I see a lot of stuff on the downloads page and OPENELEC looks good for people looking to get XBMC up and going which seems like a good idea but I feel like im limiting myself if I need to break out and use something like Chrome to watch shows on mmy anime sites
[2:35] <Ownix> Its just that Kodi was hard to set up on Raspbain and I feel like i had to touch too many files and even then I still had trouble starting and stopping Kodi, and lots of questions like the difference between running 'kodi' and 'kodi-standalone'
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[2:44] <hybr1d8> Another option may be osmc
[2:46] <ozzzy_> Ownix, why not use xbmc to watch your anime sites
[2:46] <Ownix> ozzzy_: is there a special web browser?
[2:47] <Ownix> hybr1d8: I saw that but it doesnt look nearly as mature as Kodi/XBMC
[2:47] <ozzzy_> no... but I'll bet there's an addon that handles them
[2:47] <Ownix> ozzzy_: I bet youre right, plus I dont really know all the ins and outs of XBMC. Do I just google "XBMC/Kodi AddOns"?
[2:47] <hybr1d8> osmc uses kodi
[2:47] <ozzzy_> throw in the name of your anime sites too
[2:48] <hybr1d8> osmc is kodi on top of debian (similar to raspbmc)
[2:48] <hybr1d8> while openelec is kodi on top of custom linux
[2:49] <Ownix> hybr1d8: ohhh thats neat. What do you recommend? They both sound like great options due to debain being awesome and stable and then OSMC melding Kodi perfectly with a handbuilt distro
[2:51] <hybr1d8> It depends on what you want to use it for
[2:51] <hybr1d8> If you just want a media centre - then openelec is awesome (easy to install/use/maintain - it's what I use on my tv box)
[2:51] <hybr1d8> If you want more flexibility then osmc add the ability to install random other things
[2:51] <ozzzy_> when I go to put the pi in as a media centre it'll probably be openelec
[2:52] <hybr1d8> I use openelec on both a Rpi2 and on an intel NUC for my media-centre needs
[2:52] <hybr1d8> I have another machine running mythtv (for livetv) and serving up media over the network
[2:52] <Ownix> Well ill give openelec a try since its getting all the praise from the pimasters XD
[2:52] <Ownix> Ill have to google mythtv
[2:53] <ozzzy_> ugh... mythtv
[2:53] * ozzzy_ makes the sign of the cross and backs away
[2:53] <hybr1d8> :)
[2:53] <Ownix> I was thinking about building a cheap SAN for the Pi's storage
[2:53] * ozzzy_ has a 4TB seagate box doing that
[2:53] <hybr1d8> mythtv is a bit harder to setup for livetv - but capable of soo much more than anything else, and it has been running for many years now without issue ;)
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[2:54] <ozzzy_> kodi/windows sees my usb tv tuner using npvr
[2:55] <Ownix> ozzzy_: link to your seagate box?
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[2:55] <ozzzy_> google seagate central
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[2:56] <TheLostAdmin> You make me feel so un-diyish
[2:57] <ShorTie> vdr is alot easier then mythtv
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[3:06] <Ownix> Actually NOOBS just saw I had network and fetched all kinds of other OSes one of them is raspBMC how does that compare to the other two choices hybr1d8
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[3:08] <Ownix> Looks like raspBMC is the most popular for getting Kodi on the Pi
[3:08] <Ownix> And OpenELEC was made as a lighter weight replacement
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[3:12] <hybr1d8> raspbmc has 'evolved' into osmc
[3:12] <hybr1d8> http://www.raspbmc.com/index.html
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[3:13] <hybr1d8> raspmbc is no more
[3:21] <Ownix> Ohh
[3:22] <Ownix> Hmmm tough choice between OpenELEC and OSMC
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[3:22] <GeekDude> I thought openelec?
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[3:23] <Ownix> GeekDude: what do you mean
[3:23] <GeekDude> I never payed close attention, and thought OpenELEC was the successor
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[4:07] <Ownix> What do you guys use as a web browser in open elec?
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[4:26] <Ownix> Are there any must have repos? Im trying to add SuperRepo and bumping into some issues
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[6:35] <ritek> Would NodeJS be recommended over Ruby (Grape and/or Sinatra gems) for an API server in the Raspberry Pi?
[6:35] <ritek> a heavy use API is not expected
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[6:53] <slvmchn> what's the best way to set up a rasbpi as an IRC shell? CLI debian install, install IRSSI, ssh in?
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[6:53] <slvmchn> assuming i'm not using it for anything else that is
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[6:55] <puzzola> slvmchn: That's how I have mine set up. (I used minibian instead of raspbian, but either way)
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[8:35] <smhar> greetings
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[8:38] <smhar> I have one TV, a Dreambox reciever, a raspberrypi, and other assorted devices. I want to use the TV to watch TV :-) , watch streamed videos from the network, and play games. how can I do all this without the need to plug and unplug cables for whenever I want to do something?
[8:41] <CoJaBo> smhar: HDMI switch?
[8:42] <smhar> CoJaBo, never heard of that :-) will check it out.. thanks
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[8:44] <smhar> found... looks promising.. really thanks CoJaBo
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[9:23] <ritek> slvmchn: there's weechat as well for irc
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[10:40] <leap> Hello everyone! I have a question about compiling my kernel. Would this be a good place to ask?
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[10:44] <ShorTie> either channel will do most likely, but you gotta ask your question as peeps do not respond to asking questions much
[10:44] <shiftplusone> leap: no need to ask to ask just ask
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[10:48] <leap> After I compiled my kernel, I went through and did everything else I thought I needed to do and rebooted. My pi basically rebooted to a blinking green LED.
[10:49] <leap> This is probably a stupid question, but do I need to reinstall raspberrypi-bootloader after making the kernel and moving it to the boot dir?
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[10:52] <leap> shiftplusone : ^^
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[10:54] <shiftplusone> leap: to accomplish what? replace your kernel with a working one or to get yours to work?
[10:55] <leap> shiftplusone, to get mine to work.
[10:55] <shiftplusone> Nope
[10:55] <leap> so I just messed up somewhere...great
[10:55] <shiftplusone> which pi do you have and which defconfig did you use?
[10:55] <leap> b+
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[10:56] <shiftplusone> and the other part of the question?
[10:56] <leap> and what do you mean defconfig?
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[10:56] <shiftplusone> where did your .config come from?
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[10:57] <leap> $ make mrproper and then /proc/config.gz
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[10:58] <shiftplusone> okay, and what did you do then?
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[10:59] <shiftplusone> also does the LED flash in a pattern like x number of times, pause, repeat?
[10:59] <leap> I believe it was 2 or three times
[10:59] <leap> yes
[10:59] <shiftplusone> how many?
[11:00] <leap> Should have noted it. I believe it was three.
[11:00] <shiftplusone> if it's three, you're missing start.elf in your boot directory
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[11:00] <leap> $ mv config /usr/src/linux-3.18.11/.config
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[11:01] <leap> start_db.elf ?
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[11:01] <shiftplusone> start.elf
[11:01] <leap> it's not there
[11:01] <leap> i've already done the following
[11:01] <shiftplusone> well then
[11:02] <leap> sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-headers-*-common linux-headers-*-rpi raspberrypi-bootloader libraspberrypi-bin libraspberrypi-dev libraspberrypi-doc
[11:02] <shiftplusone> hang on, deal with the current problem... you're missing files in /boot.
[11:02] <shiftplusone> why did you do all that?
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[11:02] <leap> Because the professor told us to. Awesome, right?
[11:02] <shiftplusone> yes, removing raspberrypi-bootloader entirely would remove some needed files.
[11:02] <shiftplusone> did you run rpi-update afterwards?
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[11:02] <leap> yes, but it didn't work.
[11:03] <shiftplusone> did it give you an error?
[11:03] <leap> /lib/modules doesn't exist
[11:03] <leap> so I reinstalled the programs I listed because I was curious and then it worked and rebooted fine
[11:03] <shiftplusone> Yeah, your professor is a genius. Though I don't blame him, easy mistake to make.
[11:04] <leap> so what should I not have removed? All of it?
[11:04] <shiftplusone> removing the bootloader package removed the firmware, kernel and modules. rpi-update would re-install those things with the latest version, but it checks for /lib/modules/whatever, which I guess was removed, and fails.
[11:05] <leap> would not purging it make a difference?
[11:06] <shiftplusone> not sure
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[11:06] <leap> let's try. This is a vanilla image, and after this I get to write a kernel driver for a breakout board he made....
[11:06] <ShorTie> or maybe he did it on purpose to add to the learning curve adventure .. :)~
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[11:08] <leap> I figured that making us learn how to write a kernel driver from scratch with no aid would be bad enough
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[11:09] <shiftplusone> leap: nuh, your professor sounds fine. Better than some I've had.
[11:12] <leap> shiftplusone, Alrighty, so if I remove the raspberrypi-bootloader package at all, it removes start.elf.
[11:12] <leap> Maybe I should just...not remove the package and stick it to the man?
[11:13] <shiftplusone> yeah, but rpi-update should bring it back
[11:13] <leap> it says firmware is up to date
[11:13] <leap> doesn't do squat
[11:13] <shiftplusone> remove /boot/.firmware_revision
[11:13] <shiftplusone> or whatever the dot file is called
[11:13] <leap> aye aye
[11:13] <leap> rerereremoving it
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[11:18] <leap> shiftplusone, And she's there now!
[11:18] <shiftplusone> excellent
[11:18] <leap> rebooting to make sure
[11:19] <leap> and itlooks good
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[11:20] <leap> Thank you shiftplusone, Time for me to keep making this kernel. It is seriously looking a lot better already
[11:21] <leap> only bad thing is he wants you to compile on machine, so I overclocked it and now I get to watch paint dry for 12 hours
[11:21] <shiftplusone> I also suggest that you use 'make bcmrpi_defconfig' instead of /proc/config.gz
[11:21] <shiftplusone> just cross-compile
[11:21] <leap> how long is that going to take me?
[11:22] <shiftplusone> 5 minutes maybe.... depends on your pc.
[11:22] <leap> I like this guy =D
[11:22] <leap> then just copy it to a flash drive and pull the directory over to the pi?
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[11:23] <shiftplusone> sec... let me get my script
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[11:24] <shiftplusone> http://pastebin.com/9eeqPFRe
[11:24] <shiftplusone> use it as a reference
[11:24] <shiftplusone> since some steps there are unnecessary
[11:25] <shiftplusone> mkknlimg is only needed for device tree stuff (which is a good thing to have)
[11:25] <leap> Can I talk it through with you to make sure I understand this?
[11:25] <shiftplusone> it comes from here https://github.com/raspberrypi/tools
[11:25] <shiftplusone> yeah
[11:26] <leap> so you are setting the install path to ../kinstall, setting arch to arm and letting it know to crosscompile
[11:26] <shiftplusone> I'm currently developing some drivers and need an easy way to distribute them to people for testing. So I create a kinstall.tar.gz which people extract onto / from the pi.
[11:27] <shiftplusone> yup
[11:27] <leap> then why the rm ../kinstall* -rf?
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[11:27] <leap> ohh, so the script can be run multiple times
[11:27] <shiftplusone> for the hell of it... I sometimes end up with junk there.
[11:27] <leap> without needing to manually remove the directory
[11:27] <shiftplusone> just to make sure it's clean
[11:28] <shiftplusone> if the kernel version changes, I don't want the archive to have old modules in there, for example.
[11:29] <leap> set -xe?
[11:29] <leap> just figured out it is a bash function
[11:29] <leap> but no man for it
[11:29] <shiftplusone> debugging purposes
[11:29] <shiftplusone> it will print out all the commands it runs and stop if something returns an error
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[11:29] <leap> and since this computer only has a core2duo, i'll be using -j2
[11:30] <shiftplusone> you can do more, since it doesn't only do CPU stuff and can bottleneck on IO a little.
[11:30] <shiftplusone> I'd probably use -j3
[11:31] <leap> works for me
[11:31] <ShorTie> ya, you can normally use 1 more then the number of cpu's you got
[11:31] <leap> distclean?
[11:32] <shiftplusone> leap: don't know the difference between distclean and mrproper... check 'make help'
[11:32] <leap> aye aye
[11:33] <ShorTie> distclean normally removes all configuration files
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[11:33] <ShorTie> which are made by like ./configure
[11:34] <leap> ohh god I knew that
[11:34] <leap> facepalmed while reading
[11:35] <shiftplusone> distclean - mrproper + remove editor backup and patch files
[11:35] <leap> I was reading it from programdevelop
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[11:36] <shiftplusone> programdevelop?
[11:36] <leap> google'd it
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[11:36] <leap> picked one and started reading
[11:37] <shiftplusone> O_o
[11:37] <leap> Hey, it worked
[11:37] <leap> google that is, Botnet never read so good
[11:38] <leap> so I need to pull the raspberry pi kernel directory from git and cd into that before running the script, correct?
[11:39] <leap> from having done it a few times before....unsuccessfully
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[11:40] <shiftplusone> yes
[11:41] <leap> sudo git clone https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux.git --depth 1
[11:41] <leap> ignore that
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[11:42] <shiftplusone> err
[11:42] <leap> forgot the = sign
[11:42] <shiftplusone> why sudo?
[11:42] <shiftplusone> please don't tell me that what your prof did =/
[11:43] <leap> no, he just said fetch https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux.git with a depth of one.
[11:43] <shiftplusone> okay, good.
[11:43] <shiftplusone> so yeah, don't use sudo for the hell of it.
[11:44] <leap> I have actually never used git before this, so still learning it
[11:44] <leap> like a lot of things apparently
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[11:46] <shiftplusone> at least you're learning it now. On my first day on the job, they were like "so.... write a linux driver for this." Err, I've never written a driver before.
[11:46] <shiftplusone> I'm exaggerating, it was more like on the second day, but still.
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[11:46] <leap> I can't wait to be out of classes
[11:46] <ShorTie> sudo is for whimps, live on the wild side and play as root, hehe.
[11:47] <leap> At my uni, we are paired with EE's instead of CS majors
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[11:47] <shiftplusone> leap: don't have that attitude. You can get a lot out of uni.
[11:47] <leap> Nonono, don't get me wrong
[11:47] <leap> I love them both
[11:48] <leap> I feel like this specific class would have been easier if we were paired with them instead though. This is our only linux class.
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[11:48] <leap> Christ, I am living with 5 EE's haha.
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[11:48] <shiftplusone> CS, EE... doesn't matter. You're learning to learn. I got an EE degree, but am doing stuff completely unrelated to it.
[11:49] <shiftplusone> The only part of uni I'm applying at my job is picking things up quickly and problem solving >_<
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[11:55] <leap> shiftplusone, That actually hits pretty close, thank you for saying that
[11:55] <leap> and sorry for the delay, had to find out what package I was missing. It is compiling now!
[11:56] <shiftplusone> hurray
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[11:57] <leap> I have class in three hours. Sighh. This project is due thursday, but I wanted to sleep haha
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[12:02] <leap> I have to thank you again for everything shiftplusone, This is a huge help
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[12:03] <shiftplusone> no worries
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[12:17] <StraFFeR> Hi, can anyone help me? I've got rpi model B and i set few ports to input with pullup ... when i touch gpio or gnd with wire thats not even attached to anything i get interrupt on few random pins... why is that happening?
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[12:19] <shiftplusone> are those random pins floating inputs with no pull-up/downs ?
[12:21] <StraFFeR> shiftplusone: all pins are set to input with pull up using python
[12:21] <StraFFeR> internal pullup*
[12:21] <shiftplusone> check with a multimeter to ensure they're there
[12:22] <shiftplusone> If I recall correctly, they're relatively weak, so maybe attaching an antenna (as you're doing) is enough to overpower them, but I doubt it.
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[12:22] <StraFFeR> shiftplusone: 3.14 volts
[12:23] <shiftplusone> well, I meant the resistance, but that's a silly suggestion, since you're not meant to measure resistance of a live circuit like that.
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[12:44] <ShorTie> not really suppose to touch the gpio pins with power on i believe anyways
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[12:44] <shiftplusone> well, you can if you know what you're doing.
[12:44] <ShorTie> all connections should be made before powering up
[12:45] <shiftplusone> not necessarily
[12:45] <ShorTie> ya, you can rob a bank to if you know what your doing too...
[12:45] <shiftplusone> yes, entirely the same situation.
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[14:33] <OliverUK> Hiya
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[14:54] <Hix> here's a random one... sudo reboot - command not found. wtf
[14:55] <Jabo> sudo shutdown -r now
[14:55] <canton7> does just 'reboot' complain of invalid permissions, or return command not found as well?
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[14:57] <Hix> sudo shutdown is not an option. I'm remote.
[14:57] <Hix> needs reboot
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[14:58] <Hix> even su and the reboot id failing
[14:58] <Hix> s/id/is
[14:58] <canton7> .. you do know that 'shutdown -r' reboots, right?
[14:58] <Hix> I did not :/
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[14:59] <Hix> sudo: shutdown: command not found
[14:59] <Hix> sudo: shutdown: command not found
[14:59] <Hix> oh joy
[14:59] <canton7> methinks something's foobar'd with PATH
[14:59] <canton7> give the full path to shutdown, whatever that is
[14:59] <canton7> sudo /usr/bin/shutdown -r now
[14:59] <Hix> any ideas how to repair PATH?
[15:00] <canton7> well you haven't answered my original question
[15:00] <canton7> so I'm still waiting on that
[15:00] <canton7> [13:55] <canton7> does just 'reboot' complain of invalid permissions, or return command not found as well?
[15:00] <Hix> sudo: /usr/bin/shutdown: command not found
[15:01] <Hix> reboot does same without sude
[15:01] <Hix> sudo
[15:01] <canton7> echo $PATH
[15:01] <canton7> what's the output?
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[15:02] <Hix> "/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games
[15:02] <Hix> "
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[15:02] <canton7> looks sensible
[15:03] <canton7> what distro are you running?
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[15:03] <Hix> whereis reboot returns "reboot: /usr/share/man/man2/reboot.2.gz /usr/share/man/man8/reboot.8.gz"
[15:03] <Hix> which looks odd
[15:04] <Hix> raspbian
[15:04] <canton7> means it couldn't find it anywhere else :P I'd expect reboot: /usr/bin/reboot /usr/share/man/man8/reboot.8.gz /usr/share/man/man2/reboot.2.gz
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[15:04] <canton7> is there anything at all in /usr/bin?
[15:04] <Hix> me too think that is where the problem is
[15:06] <Hix> loads canton7
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[15:11] <Hix> This seems to have come about after "/etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[15:11] <Hix> "
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[15:11] <canton7> what distro are you running?
[15:11] <canton7> oops
[15:11] <canton7> is there anything at all in /usr/bin?
[15:12] <Hix> yeah, loads
[15:12] <Hix> just not shutdown or reboot :/
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[15:14] <d3jake> Silly irssi.. I wanted to join this channelon freenode, not gamesurge.
[15:14] <d3jake> ...
[15:14] <Hix> cat /proc/version
[15:14] <Hix> Linux version 3.18.9-v7+ (dc4@dc4-XPS13-9333) (gcc version 4.8.3 20140303 (prerelease) (crosstool-NG linaro-1.13.1+bzr2650 - Linaro GCC 2014.03) ) #768 SMP PREEMPT Sun Mar 15 19:41:56 GMT 2015
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[15:16] <Hix> Hmm, doesn't bode well "That's a read error on your SD card. The card may be corrupted, or damaged. The card is inaccessible, so only commands built in to the shell you are running will work."
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[15:17] <canton7> aha
[15:17] <canton7> funtimes
[15:17] <d3jake> O.o
[15:17] <Hix> strange that it has corrupted after being up for 3d 20:50....
[15:18] <Hix> suppose it doesn't get a reboot then untlil wathcdog kicks it up the arse
[15:20] <d3jake> What's the best way to start screen when my rPi boots (archlinuxARM) as my user, so I can log in as my username, and have it ready to go? Do I need to use cron/systemd to do it "properly"?
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[15:38] <zleap> hi
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[15:39] <Bilby> o/ zleap
[15:40] <zleap> hi
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[15:40] <zleap> i have an led flashing from the gpio bit it seems there is not enough current through the led
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[15:41] <zleap> i was using a 100 ohm resistor and also using the t-cobbler from http://www.modmypi.com/raspberry-pi/breakout-boards/cyntech/rpi-b-plus-gpio-t-cobbler-breakout-board-kit/?search=t-cob
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[15:45] <Bilby> zleap the Pi is really current limited from the Gpio. You might need to use a transistor to switch a larger current
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[15:46] <pksato> 8mA are ok to lit a led.
[15:46] <zleap> ok
[15:46] <pksato> a red or green led.
[15:46] <zleap> i am just following the instructions in the book
[15:47] <pksato> blue need more that 3v3.
[15:47] <zleap> raspberry pi in easy steps
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[15:48] <pksato> and write need more volts.
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[15:50] <zleap> just trying directly from the gpio rather than through the t-cobbler board
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[15:52] <pksato> or, have a wrong connection
[15:52] <zleap> the led lights up
[15:52] <zleap> but very dim
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[15:54] <zleap> this is using the a+
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[16:02] <Kitsu> Is there any differences between Wifi dongles?
[16:02] <Kitsu> What goes best to my RasPi?
[16:02] <ozzzy_> I have an Edimax and a TrendNet that work great
[16:03] <zleap> ok if i just switch on the led then it is bright
[16:03] <zleap> if i flash the led then it is much dimmer
[16:03] <pksato> zleap: that color of led is? pin, resistor, led and gnd?
[16:03] <Bilby> There's a list of known-compatible dongles but most of them work
[16:03] <zleap> red, pin 17(11) and 100 ohm resistor
[16:05] <pksato> led is ok? test connecting on 3v3 pin (1?).
[16:05] <zleap> led is fine
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[16:05] <zleap> i just used python to turn the led on, it is bright
[16:06] <pksato> fast flashing?
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[16:06] <zleap> yes
[16:06] <zleap> 0.5
[16:07] <zleap> ok that could be the cause
[16:08] <zleap> ah got it
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[16:08] <zleap> i only had 1 sleep command in there
[16:09] <zleap> so off, sleep, on , repeat
[16:09] <avrdude> my PWR-LED sometimes blinks.. how worried should i be?
[16:09] <avrdude> the supply voltage is about 4.61 V
[16:09] <shiftplusone> avrdude: 3... you should be 3 worried.
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[16:09] <zleap> pklaus: thanks for your help
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[16:09] <avrdude> 3 isn't much. i'll leave it be, then
[16:10] <shiftplusone> avrdude: it's not so much that you should worried. It's that if you run into stability issues or network trouble, power is the prime suspect.
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[16:10] <methuzla> Kitsu pay attention to what chip the wifi dongle is using, then compare that to a list of ones known to work well
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[16:11] <Kitsu> methuzla: where can I find that list?
[16:12] <methuzla> google. internet. etc. fwiw here's one: http://elinux.org/RPi_USB_Wi-Fi_Adapters
[16:12] <shiftplusone> "random guy on the internet says so lists" aren't very good =/
[16:12] <methuzla> ^^ agree
[16:12] <shiftplusone> unless that random guy is me, of course
[16:12] <Kitsu> Yeah, I hope that I can find something from Gigantti
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[16:18] <rymate1234> treating myself to a Pi2
[16:19] <rymate1234> anything massively different from the original Pi software wise?
[16:19] <ozzzy_> nope
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[16:19] <methuzla> the software runs faster
[16:19] <ozzzy_> just get the latest stuff and you're good
[16:19] <rymate1234> right thanks
[16:19] <shiftplusone> rymate1234: needs a different kernel
[16:20] <rymate1234> I'll just get the latest image from the pi website
[16:20] <shiftplusone> (which you'll have if you've been keeping up to date with apt)
[16:20] <shiftplusone> that'll work
[16:20] <Kitsu> I have no clue what should I buy :D
[16:20] <shiftplusone> Kitsu: which wifi dongle?
[16:20] <rymate1234> my other pi will still be used as a small print server
[16:20] <strobelight> any special flags to compile gstreamer and plugins to use GPU?
[16:21] <Kitsu> shiftplusone: yes
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[16:21] <shiftplusone> Kitsu: I can recommend the Edimax EW-7811Un
[16:21] <Kitsu> Yeah, Gigantti near me has mostly D-Link, Jensen, linksys, Netgear, Telewell and Zyxel
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[16:22] <shiftplusone> what netgear ones do they havE?
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[16:23] <Kitsu> N300, A6100, A6210 and some Dual band
[16:23] <Kitsu> Idk, the number is not visible
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[16:23] <Kitsu> RangeMAX?
[16:23] <Kitsu> Oh and A6200
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[16:24] <shiftplusone> I'd check which of those has the same chipset as the Edimax EW-7811Un
[16:24] <methuzla> RTL8188CUS ?
[16:25] <Kitsu> uhoh, I don't know anything about that stuff :D
[16:25] <shiftplusone> methuzla: that's the one.
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[16:26] <methuzla> Kitsu chipset is what does the actual work, and what matters from the OS point of view
[16:26] <methuzla> Kitsu you'll find the same chipset in different plastic packages with different labels
[16:26] <Kitsu> http://tinyurl.com/giganttiwifi here's all the dongles they have
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[16:26] <shiftplusone> One of the first things I did on the job was evaluate a bunch of different common wifi dongles
[16:26] <Kitsu> (had to shorten the url)
[16:26] <shiftplusone> and the RTL8188CUS ones stood out as the clear winner
[16:27] <methuzla> Kitsu but the chipset is not always specified on retailer pages
[16:27] <Kitsu> yeah ._.
[16:28] <shiftplusone> There's a very common chipset that's used on the ebay cheap ones, pihut and wi-pi.... don't get that one.
[16:29] <ozzzy_> both of mine use that chipset and they work fine
[16:29] <shiftplusone> They work fine, but they're terrible in other aspects.
[16:29] <ozzzy_> how
[16:29] <shiftplusone> No hw decryption, so they can max out the pi 1 CPU before getting anywhere near its max speed.
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[16:29] <TheLostAdmin> On the topic of USB things ... any opinions on the Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-950 USB stick? I would like to add PVR capabilities to my Pi.
[16:30] <shiftplusone> So on the pi 1 you can only get half of the dongle's actual speed and destroy the CPU doing so.
[16:30] <ozzzy_> I have one of those on my windows box... haven't tried it on the Pi
[16:30] <TheLostAdmin> And let it stream to my roku.
[16:30] <shiftplusone> I'd need to pull up the test results to see the other reasons they suck, but that was the main one for me.
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[16:34] <methuzla> Kitsu this one: http://www.gigantti.fi/product/tietokoneet/reitittimet-ja-verkkolaitteet/DWA121/wireless-n-150-usb-sovitin-dwa-121-musta
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[16:34] <Kitsu> ok, I guess that's fine
[16:34] <methuzla> Kitsu is possibly based on RTL8188CUS
[16:34] <Kitsu> thanks :3
[16:34] <methuzla> Kitsu based on this: https://wikidevi.com/wiki/D-Link_DWA-121_rev_A1
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[16:39] <ozzzy_> shiftplusone, doesn't seem to tax the cpu on either of my pis
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[16:39] <shiftplusone> ozzzy_: how are you checking?
[16:39] <ozzzy_> top
[16:40] <shiftplusone> are you running something like iperf and keeping an eye on kernel threads?
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[16:40] <ozzzy_> just looking at the loads and %cpu
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[16:41] <shiftplusone> iirc, ksoftirq and kworker were the threads of interest
[16:41] <ozzzy_> lemme check again
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[16:41] <shiftplusone> what sort of speeds are you getting out of it?
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[16:42] <ozzzy_> ksoftirq is using 0.7%
[16:42] <ozzzy_> 150mb/s
[16:42] <ozzzy_> raw
[16:42] <ozzzy_> lemme check
[16:42] <shiftplusone> eh, this is pi 1?
[16:42] <ozzzy_> pi b rev 2 and pi 2
[16:43] <shiftplusone> which dongle is it?
[16:43] <ozzzy_> trendnet 648ub
[16:44] <Ownix> Kodi users, why do you guys use Kodi over just Raspbain? I installed Kodi last night and i have the toughest time locating repos. If I had a huge hard drive full of movies i think that would be fine but I also torrent and watch anime on sites like KissAnime.com and it seems like a pain managing addons when I could open Chrome and hit the site
[16:44] <ozzzy_> doing a large transfer
[16:44] <ozzzy_> Ownix, because kodi works
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[16:45] <Ownix> ozzzy_: I spent the longest time last night setting up OpenELEC. how do you torrent on it?
[16:45] <ozzzy_> I don't
[16:45] <shiftplusone> ozzzy_: google says that's a RTL8188SU
[16:45] <shiftplusone> I didn't say anything bad about those!
[16:45] <ozzzy_> ahhh
[16:45] <ozzzy_> my bad
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[16:45] <shiftplusone> heh >=/
[16:46] <shiftplusone> RT5370
[16:46] <shiftplusone> that's the rubbish one
[16:46] <ozzzy_> Ownix, there are torrent addons
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[16:47] <Ownix> ozzzy_: what do you torrent on? or rather do you flip between a desktop and Kodi
[16:48] <ozzzy_> I run kodi on the desktop too
[16:48] <ozzzy_> I have a 4TB NAS feeding videos... if I torrent something I store it there
[16:50] <Ownix> ozzzy_: So whats your Pi setup look like then? Just OpenELEC and then you have your laptop/desktop which you do other work like torrenting to your NAS
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[16:50] <ozzzy_> the Pi B rev2 just lets the missus watch tv
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[16:50] <ozzzy_> I'm going to replace it with a Pi 2
[16:51] <ozzzy_> the Pi 2 is just creating heat =)
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[16:53] <Ownix> ozzzy_: you mean your current Pi is just creating heat?
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[16:54] <ozzzy_> shiftplusone, 6584224 bytes/sec
[16:54] <ozzzy_> Ownix, yep
[16:54] <ozzzy_> LOL
[16:54] <ozzzy_> so about 53mb/s of actual data moving
[16:55] <rymate1234> this a good SD card? http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00519BEQY?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
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[16:56] <Ownix> ozzzy_: okay I think im finally understanding. I bought the Pi for an HTPC and I think im trying to make more out of it than what it is. It should work perfectly as an HTPC assuming I use my workstation as a means to load up it's NAS with data abnd then use the simple XBMC interface for watching videos and maybe a few addOns here and there
[16:57] <ozzzy_> you can use the pi for hitting the torrents and watching live tv too
[16:57] <ozzzy_> I just don't
[16:58] <Brutussss> how big should an SD card be for a nice arch install?
[16:58] * ozzzy_ has tv on the 2nd monitor coming across the satellite disk through kodi as we speak
[16:58] <Brutussss> (full desktop)
[16:58] <Ownix> Yeah and I have basica cable for $20 a month so short of using it as a DVR I dont really have the need for it
[16:58] <ozzzy_> 16G should be lots
[16:58] <Brutussss> and then install the rest on a hdd?
[16:58] <ozzzy_> Brutussss, what rest
[16:58] <ozzzy_> 16G should be lots
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[16:59] <Brutussss> hmm
[16:59] <Brutussss> if you get chrome, some apps etc
[16:59] <rymate1234> you won't be using chrome
[16:59] <rymate1234> it's x86 only
[16:59] <rymate1234> chromium on the other hand....
[16:59] <ozzzy_> rymate1234, there's a chrome for the pi
[16:59] <rymate1234> </pedantic>
[16:59] <Brutussss> yeah chromium
[16:59] <Brutussss> same
[16:59] <ozzzy_> right... chromium
[16:59] <ozzzy_> it's very slow
[17:00] <Brutussss> it's slow on a pi?
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[17:00] <ozzzy_> my Pi2 with apache, php, chromium, lxde etc only uses 5.? G of the 16G SD
[17:00] <ozzzy_> Brutussss, yep... really slow
[17:00] <Brutussss> did not expect that
[17:00] <rymate1234> the Pi isn't a replacement for a full PC
[17:01] <rymate1234> it might be quad core but it's ARM cores
[17:01] <Brutussss> true but I thought with a simple arch install it would be decently fast
[17:01] <rymate1234> There is a browser that's made for the Pi
[17:01] <rymate1234> in the raspbian repos
[17:01] <ozzzy_> epiphany?
[17:01] <rymate1234> yeah that
[17:02] <rymate1234> dunno if the pi version is in the arch repos
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[17:02] <Brutussss> even with a sandisk extreme pro?
[17:02] <rymate1234> i think it's mainly CPU based not disk based
[17:02] <Brutussss> move parts of the OS and custom software on a external HDD
[17:02] <rymate1234> i think it's mainly CPU based not disk based
[17:03] <Brutussss> ok
[17:05] <zleap> how do I find out what the ip of my A+ is when all I have connected to it is a wifi dongle
[17:05] <zleap> i can't even log in
[17:05] <Brutussss> scan your network?
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[17:05] <zleap> HOW
[17:05] <Brutussss> what os are you using?
[17:06] <zleap> Linux
[17:06] <rymate1234> look in the router control panel?
[17:06] <nefarious> or go to your router page and look there
[17:06] <nefarious> ^^
[17:06] <zleap> i should be able to do nmap -sp 192.168.1.X /32 but that isn't working
[17:06] <nefarious> usually 192.168.1.254(?)
[17:06] <rymate1234> also if it's anything like my network i can access my pi with raspberrypi.home
[17:06] <rymate1234> or raspberry.home can't quite remember the host
[17:06] <zleap> ok
[17:07] <zleap> ok my router is only showing my desktop
[17:07] <rymate1234> have you configured the Pi to connect to the router?#
[17:07] <zleap> I just set all this up having connected a usb hub to the A+
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[17:08] <zleap> so turn off, just connect the wifi dongle and turn back on and i don't get an ip
[17:08] <rymate1234> connect it to a display
[17:08] <rymate1234> as it says the IP on bootup
[17:08] <zleap> i have connected a display
[17:08] <zleap> when does it say the IP
[17:08] <rymate1234> before the login prompt
[17:09] <methuzla> zleap and you can't log in? what OS are you running on the pi?
[17:09] <zleap> I am auto logging in
[17:09] <zleap> however i can't type anything as all ihave connected is the wifi dongle
[17:10] <zleap> ALL i want to do is get the wifi working so i can ssh ib
[17:10] <zleap> in
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[17:12] <methuzla> zleap what OS on pi?
[17:13] <zleap> raspbian
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[17:13] <zleap> hmm
[17:13] <zleap> if I connect via usb hub, then i get an ip address
[17:13] <zleap> if I connect the usb wifi dongle thing to the pi i don't get anything
[17:14] <nefarious> is it a powered USB hub?
[17:14] <Hix> is it a powered hub?
[17:14] <zleap> no
[17:14] <Bilby> hmm
[17:14] <Hix> there are problems with some psus not giving enough power for USB WiFi dongles
[17:14] <zleap> this has 2A
[17:14] <zleap> out
[17:14] <zleap> so should be plenty
[17:15] <zleap> so why does it work when there is a keyboard, mouse and wifi
[17:15] <zleap> I have hostname -I in my .profile
[17:16] <methuzla> zleap which pi?
[17:16] <zleap> A+
[17:16] <zleap> which is where the issues are only 1 usb port
[17:16] <methuzla> and thus the hub
[17:16] <zleap> yeah
[17:17] <methuzla> is your wifi network open or secure?
[17:17] <zleap> so i can set things up, but once done I should be able to just connect the wifi dongle
[17:17] <zleap> methuzla: secure, it works, i have an ip address when everytrhing is connected via the hub
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[17:18] <zleap> ideally i want to run this without a display or anything just go in via ssh
[17:18] <methuzla> then just configure for a static ip
[17:18] <zleap> ok
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[17:19] <zleap> ok i can ssh in
[17:19] <zleap> is there anything I can add to .bashrc to make sure it gets an ip address from the routher
[17:20] <methuzla> i don't think you need anything special in .profile or .bashrc
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[17:20] <zleap> ok
[17:20] <methuzla> and you don't need to auto log in
[17:21] <zleap> i have set that up as it is a pi A+ i can switch on and get it to flash an LED
[17:21] <zleap> having it auto login makes that easier
[17:22] <Hix> can tyou not just reference the python code in /etc/rc.local?
[17:22] <methuzla> ^^ that
[17:22] <Hix> i/e add: /usr/bin/python /home/pi/blinkenLED.py
[17:22] <zleap> probably
[17:23] <Hix> before exit0
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[17:25] <zleap> this is interesting
[17:25] <zleap> just turned pi OFF, connected just the wifi dongle
[17:25] <zleap> booted up and it didn't run the hostname -I from either .profile or .bashrc
[17:25] <Anton2k> Hey guy's, im just about to nip out a buy a Pi 2 B, just wondering if the 12v DC output i have in my caravan will be enough to power the Pi - i don't know allow about electricity
[17:25] <zleap> I can how ssh in to the pi where that runs
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[17:26] <methuzla> zleap if you setup static ip, why do even need hostname -I ?
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[17:27] <TheLostAdmin> Anton2k, the 12v DC output in your caravan should do a really nice job of melting your Pi. The Pi takes 5v not 12v.
[17:27] <zleap> methuzla: well that is just to tell me the IP but yeah if it is static I don't need that
[17:28] * ozzzy_ is trying REAL hard to like the Epiphany browser
[17:28] <ozzzy_> it's not working much
[17:28] <Anton2k> wow 5v TheLostAdmin wow! n there was me thinking it as 12v
[17:28] <Anton2k> in terms of amps n stuff - of which i have no clue about what do i need to know
[17:29] <TheLostAdmin> Anton2k, if you can get 2A at 5v (like a typical fast charger for a cell phone) you have more than enough to power your Pi 2.
[17:30] <TheLostAdmin> for anything heavy on the USB ports you are going to need an externally powered USB hub (like if you want USB hard drives). I've found (on my Pi 1 model b) that USB keyboards, mice, and flash drives work fine when directly connected.
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[17:31] <TheLostAdmin> I've been told that some bluetooth and WiFi dongles are okay when directly connected but it seams to be iffy with those, so I would go externally powered USB hub for those, too.
[17:32] <Bilby> Hmm... I need to learn how to make diagrams in Eagle.
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[17:33] <Bilby> So far that's the best free diagram software I've used, even with the limitations
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[17:34] <Hix> Bilby http://forums.adafruit.com/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=16338
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[17:35] <Bilby> Hix awesome tanks :D
[17:35] <Hix> nps
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[17:36] <Bilby> I'd really like to find software that uses multiple wire colors and better labeling, but the tradeoff is a) it actually works b) lots of community support c) if i ever get to the point I want to build boards, i'm halfway there
[17:37] <philm88> Hi all - does anyone know how those free public wifi hotspots that require users to enter their email address to use the connect work? I'd like my pi to be able to automatically connect to such a network
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[17:37] <Hix> Bilby do you mean for schematics? or just to illustrate circuits?
[17:37] <Bilby> you could use wget or something to do it, most likely
[17:38] <Bilby> Hix somethign to illustrate circuits - primarily electronics but sometimes network and such.
[17:38] <Hix> http://fritzing.org/home/ worth a look
[17:38] <Anton2k> Thanks TheLostAdmin I will be using my pi away from wifi etc, (camping - caravanning) the 2 most important things to me are power consumption & storage capacity, my plan was to use an iR remote with the Pi (although i think that might mean buy an iR receiver) and now i am thinking of ditching the external HDD and going for a large capacity USB flash drive, i am going to use openelec or OSMC - haven't decided yet although they se
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[17:39] <Bilby> I'll give that a shot too
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[17:39] <TheLostAdmin> Anton2k, if you want a remote, you are going to need a receiver, yep. As for power, the Pi is pretty much smartphone tech so it is very low power.
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[17:47] <stealthii> anyone got notro's pitft drivers working on the latest kernel? https://github.com/notro/fbtft
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[17:56] <Chillum> ack! got poly'd into a white unicorn, and I am chaotic! how embarassing
[17:56] <Chillum> lost my +4 robe!
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[17:57] <Chillum> oops wrong channel sry
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[18:03] <underyx|off> hey there!
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[18:04] <underyx|off> I have a plan for a project which would require three cameras hooked up to a single raspberry pi, each taking a photo every second or so of a mechanical counter it's pointed at
[18:05] <underyx|off> I would then write software to recongnize the digits from the photo, etc.
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[18:05] <Tenchworks> question about MPEG-2, I have a RPi that I've been playing back podcasts on and have run into an issue of some of them playing back very choppy and using all available cpu when played.
[18:05] <underyx|off> now, is this three camera setup feasible? the pi wouldn't have any problem handling three USB cams, right?
[18:07] <Tenchworks> When i looked into those that played and those that suffer I found that MPEG2 seemed to be what the bad ones where encoded as. I thought mpeg2 was a video codec, everywhere I look online mentions it as a video thing so I'm confused about it, the RPi foundation's shop has a decoder for sale but even there it specs of video decoding
[18:07] <shiftplusone> Tenchworks: do you have the mpeg2 codec license?
[18:07] <Tenchworks> *speaks
[18:07] <shiftplusone> ah, you've got stuttering audio? O_o
[18:07] <shiftplusone> afaik, audio was always done on the CPU without taxing it too much, but I can ask around.
[18:07] <Bilby> I am very much enjoying Fritzing
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[18:08] <shiftplusone> bad Bilby, bad!
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[18:09] <Bilby> ;__;
[18:09] <methuzla> underyx|off probably depends on the camera and how tight your once-per-second requirements are
[18:09] <Tenchworks> shiftplusone, no I don't have the codec, would that work? I guess my confusion is that these are mp3, all the online info talks about video playback but wikipedia does mention a bit on audio. even though the RPi shop mentions video decoding, it should also apply to the audio portion as well, yes?
[18:09] <underyx|off> methuzla: not the least bit tight
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[18:09] <underyx|off> I could do with once per minute too
[18:10] <shiftplusone> Tenchworks: nope, I don't think the video codec will help you. So the audio is mp3 and it's eating up the CPU?
[18:10] <underyx|off> are there any cameras specializing in ocr?
[18:10] <underyx|off> I mean, I would be fine with just monitoring the last digit, I really only want to see the rate of change, and checking one digit is enough to do that
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[18:11] <underyx|off> using a regular webcam seems like such a waste of resolution here
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[18:12] <methuzla> underyx|off then as long provide enough power, should at least be feasible
[18:12] <Tenchworks> shiftplusone, yes. it's just certain ones and the only thing incommon is the codec used. when using a windows codec tool to see what they are, the ones in question are " MPEG-2 Layer 3 " which when I bing/google it, leads me to mpeg2 video info and the one wiki page that mentions an audio portion as a part of the codec.
[18:13] <methuzla> underyx|off you're already rube goldberging it, so wouldn't worry about using webcam
[18:13] <underyx|off> methuzla I'm actually thinking about setting up mirrors to bring all the counters into the field of view of one camera
[18:14] <underyx|off> that could be even cooler
[18:14] <underyx|off> :D
[18:14] <underyx|off> thanks for the advice!
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[18:14] <Tenchworks> shiftplusone, I'll probably try the video decoder from the RPi shop later tonight, but wanted to see what others hear had to say or if there was something they know that would point me elsewhere
[18:14] <shiftplusone> it won't help you, but hang on
[18:14] <shiftplusone> I'll ask the media people, brb.
[18:16] <Kitsu> yeah, I am bad at this
[18:16] <Kitsu> I went to buy wifi dongle and mem card
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[18:16] <Kitsu> but I bought a pizza oven
[18:18] <skwishy> are many people using docker here?
[18:18] <skwishy> I'm wonder if it might be a good tool for manageming all my rpis
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[18:18] <skwishy> err, managing
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[18:22] <shiftplusone> Tenchworks: back. What are you using to play the file?
[18:22] <Tenchworks> mpd the client being ncmpc
[18:23] <Tenchworks> no x enviroment
[18:23] <shiftplusone> what's the bitrate?
[18:23] <shiftplusone> and is it a pi1 or a pi2?
[18:24] <Tenchworks> RPi1, audio is cbr of 32.0 Kbps
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[18:24] <shiftplusone> yeah, that shouldn't use anywhere near 100%
[18:24] <shiftplusone> do you have a sample file?
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[18:25] <Froolap> ack, my sd card died
[18:26] <Krunkpirate> Anyone here setup retropi before?
[18:26] <Tenchworks> er, give me a second to figure out which podcast it is
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[18:28] <Tenchworks> shiftplusone: http://www.survivalpodcast.net/audio/2015/4-15/epi-1550-feedback-4-6-15.mp3
[18:28] <Froolap> looks like a lot of the pi image files have vanished
[18:29] <Froolap> I'm not even seeing retropi available any more.....
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[18:32] <shiftplusone> Tenchworks: I'm only testing on a pi2, but it's using 0% playing with mpg123
[18:33] <Tenchworks> shiftplusone, but do you already have the codec on that pi? I'm really thinking that may be the case at this point
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[18:33] <shiftplusone> again, the codec is not relevant.
[18:33] <shiftplusone> it's a video codec, nothing to do with audio
[18:34] <Tenchworks> me coming here is becuase i'm out of other ideas and I've been plugging away at this for a couple weeks
[18:34] <shiftplusone> does it peg the cpu if you use mpg123 to play it?
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[18:35] <Tenchworks> not sure if I have that installed one sec
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[18:41] <Tenchworks> shiftplusone, well then... it works 1% cpu usage and no stuttering/choppyness
[18:41] <Bilby> So fritzing is pretty cool, still not perfect but a lot closer to what i need in general
[18:42] <Bilby> I probably should shell out for something paid to get what i want
[18:42] <Tenchworks> shiftplusone, so now I have to determine why mpd/ncmpc stutters on it
[18:42] <Tenchworks> I think I found new project i guess >.>
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[18:43] <shiftplusone> I quite like moc(p) as lightweight audio player... might be something to replace mpd with.
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[18:45] <Tenchworks> shiftplusone, thanks for getting me this far. I couldn't get it to work play straight before so figured it was a decoding issue (may still be but in the implimentation on mpd's part). I'll look into moc when i get home, though mpd has been my goto for sometime
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[18:46] <shiftplusone> okay
[18:46] * shiftplusone stops listening to the terrible podcast.
[18:47] <Tenchworks> hehe, it's actually my dads, I don't have this issue with my podcasts (various electronic dance music)
[18:48] <Tenchworks> seems most of his talk shows have some issue or another all related to this playback issue
[18:48] <shiftplusone> hm
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[18:49] <Tenchworks> but still the only thing incommon was that mpeg2 codec info that all my tools where showing
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[18:49] <eviltoaster> Anyone know why i cant run the html5 video player in fullscreen in the original browser, it's always like 95% of the screen :(
[18:50] <shiftplusone> mpd's mp3 decoding method is probably the problem then.
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[18:51] <Tenchworks> shiftplusone, that is probably the case, i tried other os's but still kept running to mpd rather than trying other cli based player (and error on my part >.> )
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[18:54] <shiftplusone> eviltoaster: what do you mean by 'original browser'. Epiphany in the latest raspbian image from raspberrypi.org?
[18:54] <methuzla> Tenchworks shiftplusone could the problem be network latency? the link is just to an mp3 file, not really a stream
[18:54] <shiftplusone> methuzla: I wouldn't expect 100% cpu usage in the case of network latency.
[18:54] <eviltoaster> shiftplusone: oh sorry, yes i mean raspian image
[18:55] <methuzla> good point.
[18:55] <Tenchworks> methuzla, podcast is downloaded and played locally off a usb hard disk
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[18:57] <methuzla> ah. ok. fwiw i've had no issues with mpd on a pi.
[18:57] <Tenchworks> this RPi uses hpodder to snatch up podcasts and most are played straight from it, if I play the file off it on another machine (normal pc) over the network there is no issue, so this is only occuring with the Pi itself
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[18:58] <Tenchworks> the one thing that might be hindering (though not really sure that should make a difference) is the os this RPi is running is debian Armel
[18:59] <Tenchworks> it is not a hard float, the image used is as old as the pi, though I did upgrade it to the latest debian release
[19:00] <methuzla> maybe. here. i'll download it and try playing it with mpd on my pi (B+ with current raspbian).
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[19:01] <Tenchworks> methuzla, I'll warn ya, that show (and the others taht have this issue) are kinda dry. or atleast to me they are
[19:02] * Tenchworks listening to a voice drone on and on is very sleep inducing
[19:02] <methuzla> you hit 100% cpu right off the bat though? i don't need to listen to 30 minutes of it or anything?
[19:02] <Tenchworks> right from the getgo
[19:03] <Tenchworks> jumps to 80% and in 2 secs is sitting at 90% the rest of the cpu is in use by other processess
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[19:03] <Tenchworks> if I kill everything else it will gobble up the available cpu
[19:04] <methuzla> ahhhhh my ears!!!!!! mpd cpu load ~ 20%
[19:04] <Tenchworks> *cries
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[19:05] <Tenchworks> I'll work on it another time, need to be leaving for work now, thanks though
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[19:05] <Tenchworks> going to idle out, always interesting to read chat logs and gleam info on various other things, often which I never knew of before
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[19:06] <methuzla> played fine. cpu stayed constant at ~20%.
[19:06] <Tenchworks> I'll look into mpd's install when i get back, and check with them on thier channel as well
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[19:30] <Kitsu> hnngghh
[19:30] <Kitsu> My RasPi can't find my Card Reader
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[19:30] <Kitsu> and how do I open .exes in raspbian?
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[19:31] <chris_99> .exes?a
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[19:31] <chris_99> you mean windows ones?
[19:31] <pksato> .exe a windows or dos binary? Use hexdump.
[19:31] <Kitsu> windows
[19:32] <pksato> no, you can not run windows programas on raspbian.
[19:32] <Kitsu> hnnggh
[19:32] <pksato> is not compatible.
[19:32] <pksato> is other universe.
[19:32] <Kitsu> How about ubuntu? ;_;
[19:32] <Tachyon`> it migt be possible with the magic of emulation
[19:32] <Tachyon`> qemu or similar booting windows
[19:32] <Tachyon`> although not quick
[19:33] <Kitsu> I can't install the drivers to my wifi dongle..
[19:33] <pksato> you can not run windows x86/x64 programs on raspberry pi.
[19:33] <Tachyon`> don't make absolute statements that are wrong, heh
[19:33] <Kitsu> .__.
[19:33] <Tachyon`> they can't run natively certainly
[19:33] <pksato> Is possible to run a emulator.
[19:34] <Tachyon`> but to say it's impossible...
[19:34] <ozzzy_> impractical
[19:34] <Kitsu> so there went about 50 euros
[19:34] <methuzla> Kitsu which wifi dongle did you get?
[19:34] <Tachyon`> that reminds me, I have a pi 2 here to play with
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[19:35] <Kitsu> methuzla: they didn't have that one you told me to get, so they requested some else
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[19:35] <ozzzy_> I know of no way to even start to TRY to run windows binaries on a Pi
[19:36] <Froolap> wine will run some windows programs on linux.....
[19:36] <ozzzy_> yeah... with an x86 processor underneath
[19:36] <pksato> Windows 10 binaries compiled to armv7 can run on rpi 2.
[19:36] <methuzla> Kitsu hopefully you do not need to load drivers. do you have a link to what you ended up with?
[19:36] <ozzzy_> yeah... but they're not 'standard windows desktop binaries'
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[19:37] <methuzla> Kitsu or just plug it in and run lsusb?
[19:37] <Kitsu> I guess it was Netgear A6100, they told it works in raspi
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[19:39] <ozzzy_> Kitsu, other people are using that adapter with no issues
[19:39] <ozzzy_> "RPi detected it out of the box"
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[19:45] <Krunkpirate> What about trying ndiswrapper
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[19:50] <Kitsu> looks like it recognises it, but it can't find any wlans
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[19:52] <ozzzy_> Kitsu, have you tried compiling the module?
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[19:54] <Kitsu> how? :o
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[19:56] <ozzzy_> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=89028
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[20:02] <Sonny_Jim> WTH? I am trying to remove ruby from my system, so I run "sudo apt-get remove libruby1.8"
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[20:02] <Sonny_Jim> It The following NEW packages will be installed: libruby1.9.1 ruby ruby1.9.1
[20:03] <Sonny_Jim> I don't want to install new packages you klutz!
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[20:05] <Krunkpirate> try purge?
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[20:05] <Sonny_Jim> Does the same
[20:05] <Krunkpirate> Weird O.o
[20:06] <Sonny_Jim> I had to specify every single installed ruby package before it would let me uninstall them without installing a new version at the same time
[20:06] <Sonny_Jim> Oh the joys of package management
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[20:08] <Bilby> but it's the year of linux on the desktop! /sarcasm
[20:08] <Istalantar> hi, i am trying to create a php script, which should be able to send me an e-mail. I already configured the php.ini, but it doesn't work, anyone an idea?
[20:09] <Bilby> Istalantar, if you've configured php.ini can you send a test emial?
[20:09] <Istalantar> tried that, doesnt work
[20:10] <Istalantar> Bilby: maybe i configured it wrong?
[20:11] <Bilby> What are you sending email through?
[20:12] <Istalantar> Bilby: sendmail
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[20:13] <Bilby> This? https://www.sendmail.com/sm/open_source/
[20:13] <Bilby> or do you mean the mail() function in php?
[20:14] <pksato> standard mail() function on php use sendmail command to put email on system spool.
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[20:15] <Istalantar> sendmail command, thats what i use
[20:15] <Istalantar> or at least try
[20:15] <pksato> system need a mail system that delivery email to recipient.
[20:15] * Froolap cries
[20:15] <Istalantar> actually i dont even know if thats right what i do
[20:16] <pksato> but, today due spam, hosts not able to send email direct.
[20:16] <Bilby> Istalantar look through this http://www.sbprojects.com/projects/raspberrypi/exim4.php
[20:16] <Bilby> that's what I configured and it works just fine
[20:16] <pksato> need to relay to a "registred" email server to domain.
[20:17] <Istalantar> Bilby: okay thx, i'll look into that
[20:18] <Krunkpirate> I have a 1gb sd card sitting around from an old phone, anyone know of an ubersmall OS image I could use on it?
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[20:19] <pksato> email relay only solution like ssmtp can be use. or big MTAs like exim, postfix, etc..
[20:19] <Bilby> Krunkpirate minibian
[20:19] <Bilby> there are some less minimal that are under a gig, too
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[20:21] <Krunkpirate> Awesome, ty!
[20:21] <Bilby> Welcome :)
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[20:26] <Froolap> noe I gotta see if I can get pidora running on my rpi2 again.
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[20:45] <Istalantar> Bilby: hey, i followed the exim4 guide, although i chose the ssmtp thing (less to read) .. it works, thank you :)
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[20:48] <Bilby> Istalantar great :D
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[20:55] <Krunkpirate> anyone know how to check the status of a dd copy?
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[20:56] <shiftplusone> Krunkpirate, send it the USR1 signal.
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[20:56] <Krunkpirate> kill USR1 and the pid?
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[21:01] <colonia27> "kill -USR1 [PID]" in a second terminal session
[21:01] <Krunkpirate> hmmm it legit killed the process O.o
[21:01] * ozzzy_ wishes that chromium was a bit zippier on the pi2.... epiphany is almost unusable
[21:01] <Krunkpirate> different on osx maybe?
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[21:05] <colonia27> "killall -INFO dd" maybe
[21:05] <colonia27> ?
[21:05] <colonia27> here's some more: http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/1067/check-the-status-of-dd-in-progress
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[21:07] <shiftplusone> Krunkpirate, what are you running? Yes, iirc osx is different.
[21:08] <Krunkpirate> killall -INFO dd worked.
[21:09] <Krunkpirate> Windows on the machine im on irc, osx on the system im doing the dd :P
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[21:40] <T1960CT> Hello, I just got a raspberry pi 2 and when I try to boot it, the boot text scrolls up but then it just does it over and over and over, I'm trying to boot raspbian using the newest image, can anyone tell me what's going on with it?
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[21:43] <Bastler> Do you use NOOBS?
[21:43] <T1960CT> No, I'm using the regular Raspbian image
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[21:44] <Bastler> Does it work in your old PI1?
[21:44] <T1960CT> I havent ever owned a pi, this is my first one, so I'm not quite sure what's happening with it
[21:45] <Bastler> Ok. How did you create the boot disk? Didi you use imager?
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[21:46] <T1960CT> I used Win32DiskImager, as the site recommends, yes
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[21:47] <Bastler> Disk size? File system?
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[21:48] <T1960CT> 8GB, FAT
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[21:50] <Bastler> Ok. Do you know linux?
[21:50] <T1960CT> I run it on all my computers, Mint17.1, yes
[21:50] <T1960CT> I cant tell what the boot text says though, it scrolls by too fast and then repeats
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[21:52] <Bastler> Sorry for asking :) 1. Broken sector 2. Broken installation - create a new disk. If you need more details, please, send the line when it starts reboot.
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[21:55] <T1960CT> Dont be sorry for asking :P Questions are the only way to get the info you need ;) I'll try redoing it again. Should I format the MicroSD BEFORE running the imager or does the imager take care of it? I didn format first the first time
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[21:57] <Bastler> No. The imager does it. BTW Can I ask why this imager u used, if you run linux on your machines?
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[21:58] <T1960CT> I'm on my friends Windows laptop because my SD slot refuses to work under Linux and I have no other adapters :/
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[21:59] <T1960CT> This would apparently be the way to do it though Linux though: http://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/installation/installing-images/linux.md
[21:59] <Bastler> Wow, that hurts :)
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[22:00] <Sonny_Jim> Those instructions seem uneccessarily verbose tbf
[22:00] <T1960CT> Yeah, I have another laptop ( a really old one ) that has a slot, and it works fine under Bhodi Linux, my main one running mint 17.1 refuses to work though, even in other OSs
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[22:01] <Sonny_Jim> Almost half of it is taken up by explaining "This will be the device your SD is registered as"
[22:01] <Bastler> I suggest you 2 use NOOBS, it simplifies installation. And it automatically recognizes pi2
[22:01] <T1960CT> Is it the same OS once installed or is it like dummied down?
[22:01] <T1960CT> Sonny it certainly seems like that :P
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[22:03] <Bastler> It is normal Raspbian for beginners :)
[22:03] <T1960CT> "For beginners" lol is it the same one though?
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[22:04] <Bastler> Yes, use NORML NOOBS.
[22:04] <Bastler> NORMAL
[22:05] <T1960CT> Alright, I'll give it a go if one last try for raspbian doesnt work :)
[22:05] <Bastler> send me the line,
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[22:07] <T1960CT> Gonna be a while, and I'm not even sure if I'll be able to read the boot text :P
[22:09] <Bastler> look for /var/log/syslog if you can find it in another machine :))
[22:09] <T1960CT> That would definitely work better :P
[22:10] <T1960CT> It's at 63% writing the image
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[22:13] <HtheB> are the ops here?
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[22:14] <HtheB> ( ReggieUK, Davespice )
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[22:16] <T1960CT> Bastler: It didnt work with Raspbian, and there is no /var/log/syslog on the card
[22:17] <T1960CT> Bastler *
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[22:17] <Bastler> NOOBS gives you opportunity to choose another OS.
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[22:19] <thescatman> Hey guys, any idea why I would be getting the rainbow in the top right of my screen when I'm using a decent power supply and decent cable?
[22:19] <thescatman> It was fine up until today. Was pulsing while it booted and now solid.
[22:22] <Bastler> Find this file /etc/default/bootlogd and enable bootlog, include BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=yes
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[22:27] <dreamon> After update rpi 1wire devices arent found anymore
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[22:28] <thescatman> dreamon, sorry, I don't get what you mean
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[22:29] <dreamon> I did a programm that worked with onewire devices DS1820.. 1 1/2 years later I wanted to update rpi with apt-get upgrade, dist-upgrade..
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[22:30] <dreamon> that took a long time.. many updates. no onewire devices are no more found.
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[22:31] <T1960CT> Bastler do I just extract it onto the SD card and boot from it? There doesnt seem to be an image file that I can use
[22:31] <dreamon> There is something I must change somewhere to function again. but Ive forgotten wat it was. something to set in rpi starting process
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[22:35] <dreamon> think I found it →
[22:35] <dreamon> Edit /boot/config.txt→ Add the line dtoverlay=w1-gpio→ Reboot the Pi
[22:37] <dreamon> Yes this worked!
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[22:38] <Anorion> I just need to figure out how to get the pi to autodetect 1080p screens
[22:38] <Anorion> I can force it, but then it's goofy on <1080p monitors
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[22:42] <thescatman> same issue with me Anorion
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[22:42] <Anorion> if Knoppix can do it, we should be able to as well
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[23:20] <siwica> I am gettin a 'Error resizing existing fat partition' when trying to install NOOBS from my SD card. Could somebody help me with the issue?
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[23:21] <ShorTie> did you reformat your sdcard with sdformatter first ??
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[23:22] <siwica> I am on a linux system and reformated the card according to the instructions I found
[23:22] <siwica> Basically: fdisk sbd
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[23:22] <siwica> delete all existing partitions
[23:23] <siwica> create a new (primary) partition
[23:23] <siwica> Setting its type to FAT32
[23:23] <siwica> running mkfs.vfat sdb1
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[23:23] <ShorTie> that is typr 6 ??
[23:23] <siwica> copying the files onto the card and booting the pi
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[23:24] <ShorTie> s/typr/type/
[23:24] <siwica> ?
[23:24] <siwica> what do you mean?
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[23:25] <ShorTie> when setting the type hit hit t then 6 ??
[23:25] <siwica> its b
[23:25] <ShorTie> when setting the type you hit t then 6 ??
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[23:25] <ShorTie> you want 6, fat
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[23:25] <siwica> 6 is FAT16
[23:26] <ShorTie> Yuppers ... :)
[23:26] <siwica> I read only FAT32 is going to work
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[23:26] <ShorTie> na, you want 6
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[23:26] <siwica> ok, if you say so
[23:26] <siwica> I have nothing to lose
[23:26] <ShorTie> then you set the boot flag too ??
[23:27] <siwica> I did not
[23:27] <siwica> should I?
[23:27] <ShorTie> yes sir
[23:28] <ShorTie> just wondering, some special reason for using noobs ??
[23:28] <mete> not in my eyes
[23:29] <mete> :D
[23:29] <ShorTie> dd an straight image is alot better imho
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[23:29] <siwica> so what distro would you recommend then?
[23:30] <ShorTie> raspbian http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/raspbian_latest
[23:30] <siwica> I want to basically use the pi to store git repos and to connect it to my music system
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[23:31] <siwica> so I guess I still need to do all the reformatting then?
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[23:31] <siwica> (when dd a raspbian image)
[23:32] <ShorTie> na, the image will do all the formatting and stuff for you
[23:32] <siwica> ok, that sounds more convenient
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[23:33] <siwica> what are the pros of raspbian over a plain arch?
[23:33] <mete> raspian is OK
[23:33] <mete> It's easy to install
[23:33] <ShorTie> that has a desktop
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[23:33] <siwica> and if you dont need one?
[23:33] <siwica> I will only use it via ssh
[23:34] <ShorTie> raspbian has all the special sauce for the pi
[23:34] <mete> my raspian hasn't a desktop
[23:34] <mete> o_O
[23:34] <ShorTie> would you prefer a minimal install ??
[23:34] <siwica> depends on what the 'extra sauce' consists of
[23:35] <ShorTie> might give my_pi_os a try https://www.dropbox.com/s/zp60vi3na7xn3lk/my_pi_os.sh?dl=0
[23:35] <ShorTie> all the stuff to make the pi/arm work right
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[23:36] <ShorTie> kernels mainly
[23:36] <siwica> ok
[23:37] <siwica> I think I just go with the standard image
[23:37] <ShorTie> the foundation works very hard to get them right
[23:37] <Anorion> mete, startx
[23:38] <mete> no no thank you Anorion :)
[23:38] <mete> I don't use the X :D
[23:38] <Anorion> gotcha~
[23:38] <cybr1d> rofl i opened irc, saw 'startx' and thought i opened terminal by mistake.
[23:38] <ShorTie> whelp, sorry, you gotta run that on a pi, so you first need to put raspbian on, then you can make a minimal image/sdcard
[23:38] <cybr1d> just #raspberrypi :D
[23:38] <Anorion> 99% of my linux use is bash-only
[23:39] <Anorion> #justrbpithings
[23:39] <mete> 100% here Anorion :D
[23:40] <mete> only the raspi has X installed (I haven't know that until now...)
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[23:40] * Sonny_Jim shakes fist at libftdi
[23:40] * Anorion runs a computational chemistry lab
[23:40] <Sonny_Jim> Stahp messing up my .bashrc with lines like this
[23:40] <Sonny_Jim> export C_INCLUDE_PATH=/usr/local/include/libftdi1:/usr/include::/usr/local/include/libftdi1:/usr/include:
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