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IRC Log for 2015-04-08

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[0:06] <Travis> Hello. I think I fixed my ZNC compiling problem :D
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[0:08] <Travis> I think you have to switch your repositories to jessie, then back to wheezy.
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[0:09] <shiftplusone> Travis, heh... that's some cargo culting right there.
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[0:13] <Travis> Well, you have to do what you have to do, to make it work.
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[0:15] <Travis> I am so wrong right now anyway. I am using an old keyboard, from a DynaPro lunchbox PC, via a USB to mini DIN adapter.
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[0:15] <Travis> My pi has gone old school.
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[0:18] <Travis> I will come back, when my ZNC compiling completes.
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[0:23] <siwica> what are the default login credentials on rasbian?
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[0:23] <Jabo> pi:raspberry
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[0:24] <siwica> thats what I thought
[0:24] <siwica> it doesnt work though
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[0:25] <Jabo> username pi, password raspberry
[0:25] <siwica> Yes, I understood
[0:25] <thescatman_> Anyone here used multiplayer on retropie? how does it go? I'm mainly using mupen64plus but any emulator would be useful to know that it works
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[0:27] <ShorTie> that is the login for the offical raspbian, where did you get your image from ??
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[0:29] <Datalink> siwica, the default login varies by distro, the Linaro flavor for Pi2 uses Linaro as a user, and I honestly forget the standard password
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[0:40] <puzzola> siwica: I found http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#Passwords - Don't know if it's helpful
[0:41] <puzzola> Also minibian uses root/raspberry
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[0:48] <Dephenom> Evening Guys, I am looking to get some CCTV set up here, and was wondering if the Raspberry PI is able to do that, with expansion boards I guess, and would 1 PI be able to manage more than 1 camera?
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[0:50] <ShorTie> with everything going thru 1 little usb port, i think it will swamped and not work real well
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[0:52] <ShorTie> df -h
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[0:54] <Dephenom> ShorTie, so have a PI per camera, I will be starting out with one camera and expanding as I need to.
[0:54] <ozzzy> why not just put up wireless IP cameras
[0:54] <methuzla> only one pi camera per pi (except for compute module i think)
[0:55] <ShorTie> ya, 1 camera per pi is what i think peeps find best
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[0:56] <Dephenom> ozzzy, because most of the IP cameras I have seen are HUGE, and look crap, but then I am looking at the lower end of the market for IP cameras
[0:56] <methuzla> you'll have to use USB for multiple cameras, and the pi camera is not USB
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[1:01] <SpeedEvil> http://tinyonestore.com/products/1800
[1:01] <SpeedEvil> Lamobo D1 - The smallest open-source development board around, with a built-in HD mini camera. Create your own mini-cam now! type thing is interesting
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[1:02] <Froolap> Dephenom: Uh. I don't think that the PI has enough horse power to really serve as a recording device for multiple cameras......
[1:02] <SpeedEvil> USB will be the issue
[1:03] <SpeedEvil> USB cameras _DO_NOT_ play well together.
[1:03] <SpeedEvil> And USB and network is shared, making it much worse
[1:03] <Froolap> Dephenom: I have been using BlueIris as my dvr for 4 cameras on a laptop, and using the pi to connect to the laptop as an additional display of the cameras....
[1:03] <SpeedEvil> The Pi has one USB port, with a hub on it.
[1:03] <SpeedEvil> It is just about the worst platform you could imagine to try this on
[1:04] <Dephenom> Froolap, well, I am thinking of getting on of the NUC's from Intel, not sure what model at the moment, and using that as a media center, so I guess I could run it on there too, if that could be done of course, or even getting an NUC to be the CCTV control center
[1:05] <Froolap> you have to consider that whatever you are using to save video with has also got to do motion detection..... and then convert what the camera sends into some type of standard format.
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[1:05] <SpeedEvil> Also - modern I3 class haswell systems can use low power.
[1:06] <Dephenom> and after asking you guys, id probably go the 1 PI per camera, at �20 or so, its cheap enough
[1:06] <SpeedEvil> Mine is using 22W, with firefox watching video
[1:06] <Froolap> dep I'm useing a laptop with a 500 gig hard drive and the 4 caperas eat it in a week.
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[1:08] <Dephenom> Froolap, the cameras wouldnt be recording all the time, I would either do time lapse pics, say once every 10 seconds or so, or motion detected vids for a couple minutes
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[1:09] <Dephenom> but having the option of looking at a live stream would be nice, so then when I am upstairs in the office and the doorbell goes I can see if it is worth answering :P
[1:09] <Froolap> Dephenom: If you set the camera to take a picture every 10 seconds, 6 pictures per minute, how many minutes in a week..... it quickly becomes a problem to manage..... I know, I tried
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[1:11] <Dephenom> well, yeah, just done the sums and thats 8640 images per day per camera
[1:11] <Froolap> you will quickly have a directory with 250,000 pictures in it, and can't even run ls in the directory without a buffer overflow on a desktop...... and trying to search through those jpg to find something interesting......
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[1:13] <Froolap> and then when you do find something interesting you find out that the action you wanted to see happened during the 9 seconds you weren't recording.
[1:13] <Dephenom> I guess taking a pic every 10 seconds for 2 to 5 minutes after motion is detected is a better idea, will just need to position the camera to not pick up the road
[1:14] <Froolap> the cameras don't do that good of a job of motion detection.... I've tried several.....
[1:15] <Dephenom> might have to reconsider the idea then
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[1:26] <Dephenom> thanks for your help guys :) its past midnight here so I am off to bed, g'night!
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[1:51] <ponA> hey, does anyone here know about analog amplifiers? i have a question about the pcb of a car amplifier
[1:52] <Sonny_Jim> Don't ask to ask, just ask ;-)
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[1:58] <Froolap> is it likely that you'll get an answer here? yes! is it likely to be the answer you were looking for? that depends........
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[1:58] <SpeedEvil> ponA: ##electrnics
[1:58] <SpeedEvil> ponA: ##electronics
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[1:59] <ponA> thx speedevil!
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[2:00] <HtheB> What happened to the logs of march 25?
[2:00] <HtheB> It's not in there :/
[2:00] <HtheB> (IRC Log)
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[2:03] <HtheB> anyone?
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[2:04] <methuzla> that's the day the accidentally gave away the config.txt parameter to allow 2.3GHz clocking
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[2:04] <shiftplusone> HtheB, we don't talk about the 25th of March.
[2:05] <shiftplusone> All I can say is, they don't want you to know the truth.
[2:05] <shiftplusone> Either that or the logging bot dropped out.
[2:06] <Sonny_Jim> Sssh, they are asking too many questions, they are onto us
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[2:07] * shiftplusone starts burning documents.
[2:07] <HtheB> :D
[2:07] <HtheB> somoene helped me on THAT day
[2:07] <HtheB> but I forget who it was :(
[2:08] <HtheB> shiftplusone, I wanted to add a potentiometer to the PiTFT, remember?
[2:09] * Sonny_Jim starts throwing hard drives into the microwave and hits start
[2:09] <shiftplusone> HtheB, perhaps it was ali123?
[2:09] <shiftplusone> ...4?
[2:09] <HtheB> hmmm, thats a good call shiftplusone
[2:09] <HtheB> ali1234
[2:09] <HtheB> Sonny_Jim: nooo, now you've lost all your pr0n
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[2:10] <HtheB> I've soldered everything, but it's still not working :(
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[2:11] <Sonny_Jim> I think I have logs from the 25th
[2:11] <Sonny_Jim> What info are you looking for in particular
[2:11] <HtheB> about who helped me with some schematics
[2:12] <HtheB> because someone gave me an edited schematic for my idea
[2:12] <HtheB> but now that I've soldered everything, it didn't work out
[2:12] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm, maybe I don't
[2:12] <HtheB> so, maybe he (or someone else?) here could help me to find what the problem might be
[2:12] <Sonny_Jim> I think I put them in the microwave along with those documents about [CENSORED BY ISP]
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[2:13] <HtheB> lol
[2:13] <HtheB> http://htheb.com/list/index.php?dir=images%2Fpitft%2F
[2:13] <HtheB> have a look at the schametics
[2:13] <HtheB> schematics *
[2:14] <methuzla> mmmmmmmm game boy pot
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[2:15] <HtheB> methuzla yeah
[2:15] <HtheB> I want to lower the backlight using a gameboy pot
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[2:15] <HtheB> (and yes, I am trying to make some gameboy mod with the Rpi)
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[2:16] <HtheB> but it's not complete mod without dimming the backlights using pot.meters! :P
[2:16] <methuzla> conversation rings a bell
[2:16] <methuzla> like why not dim with PWM
[2:16] <HtheB> exactly!
[2:16] <HtheB> :P
[2:16] <HtheB> I am using a NE555 right now
[2:17] <HtheB> according to the person who helped me
[2:17] <ozzzy> you can do pwm with a pi
[2:17] <HtheB> ozzzy using a pot meter?
[2:17] <ozzzy> yep
[2:18] <ozzzy> you'd need to add an ADC chip
[2:18] <HtheB> I want to lower the backlight of my pitft using a potmeter
[2:18] <HtheB> ADC chip?
[2:18] <pksato> schematics appers to wrong.
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[2:18] <HtheB> pksato: what is exactly wrong with it? (can you edit so I can try it out?)
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[2:20] <pksato> not make sense for me...
[2:21] <pksato> 555 have 1001 way to use
[2:21] <ozzzy> the 555 part looks ok
[2:21] <ozzzy> the steering diodes will increase the duty cycle
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[2:23] <HtheB> so, what is it...?
[2:23] <HtheB> pksato says no-go, ozzzy says ok...
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[2:25] <pksato> pwm part are ok. problem is signal output.
[2:26] <pksato> normally use pin 3 of 555 as output.
[2:26] <ozzzy> that's the output pin LOL
[2:26] <pksato> what is smtpe610?
[2:27] <ozzzy> I didn't notice that
[2:27] <HtheB> i think a touchscreen controller
[2:27] <ozzzy> I only looked at the pot and diodes
[2:27] <HtheB> it's an edited part of a PiTFT schematic
[2:27] <HtheB> just ignore that part
[2:27] <HtheB> the blue part is what is added later on
[2:27] <HtheB> (and the 2 green lines in that blue part, forget to color that blue :P)
[2:28] <pksato> R5 R9 junction is connected to it.
[2:28] <HtheB> not good?
[2:28] * HtheB is n00b
[2:28] <pksato> If this point is 0v, Q1 not conduct, and no led.
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[2:29] <ozzzy> normally the output is controlled using discharge and threshold and the steering diodes/pot
[2:30] <ozzzy> but... there are lots of ways to use a 555
[2:30] <pksato> that is actual led condition?
[2:30] <HtheB> pksato: this is the original one: https://learn.adafruit.com/system/assets/assets/000/013/040/original/raspberry_pi_pitftschem.png?1387563188
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[2:31] <HtheB> ali1234 told me that NE555 and some diodes should make it work out
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[2:31] <HtheB> he saw it on here: http://www.pcbheaven.com/circuitpages/LED_PWM_Dimmer/
[2:32] <ozzzy> yeah... it'll work, but it's not what I would have done [shrug]
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[2:32] <HtheB> (I really hope you guys could help me out on this, because it's been DAYS now that I can't fix this)
[2:32] <ozzzy> I'd just hook up output (pin3) to the LED
[2:32] <ozzzy> with a resistor of course
[2:32] <HtheB> ozzzy, do you have a pitft?
[2:33] <ozzzy> no
[2:33] <HtheB> ah, that explains
[2:33] <HtheB> if you had, you would know that it's not so easy :p
[2:33] <ozzzy> an led is an led is an led
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[2:34] * ozzzy isn't much into consumer gizmos
[2:34] <pksato> HtheB: that on this condition, leds are on or off?
[2:34] <HtheB> well, lets see if pksato could solve my problem
[2:34] <HtheB> on
[2:34] <HtheB> in original condition it's on
[2:34] <pksato> ok is good.
[2:34] <HtheB> in the "soldered NE555" condition: also on :D
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[2:35] <HtheB> like it's not even there
[2:35] <pksato> you can make a "stupid" test?
[2:35] <HtheB> well, I can change the potmeter, nothing happens
[2:35] <HtheB> still very bright white
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[2:35] <pksato> shot circuit pin 7 and 8 of 555, led can off.
[2:35] <ozzzy> what are you using to cut the current to the LED
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[2:36] <pksato> it is safe.
[2:36] <HtheB> ok, short circuiting now
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[2:36] <pksato> ops.
[2:36] <pksato> not 8.
[2:37] <siwica> I want to connect my raspberry pi (running raspbian) to my music system and stream music from other computers (linux) to it. What is the best solution to do this?
[2:37] <pksato> 7 and pin 1 or gnd.
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[2:37] <HtheB> ok
[2:38] <pksato> led off?
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[2:38] <pksato> humm... 8 and 7 is not safe. sorry.
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[2:38] <HtheB> :D
[2:39] <HtheB> so, what to do now?
[2:39] <pksato> 7 and 1 on 555 (pin 1 or gnd)
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[2:40] <HtheB> damn, one cable is broken, let me quickly solder it
[2:40] <HtheB> just a second
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[2:40] <pksato> led can be to off.
[2:40] <pksato> it not, have wrong/fault connection, o Q1 is damanged.
[2:40] <HtheB> so, what if it goes off
[2:40] <HtheB> ah
[2:41] <siwica> i was disconnected. did somebody answer?
[2:41] <Sonny_Jim> Nope
[2:42] <Sonny_Jim> What I would do is setup mpd and put all the music on the Pi itself, or at least on network share the Pi can reach
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[2:42] <Sonny_Jim> ha
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[2:42] <Sonny_Jim> I was about to suggest using pulseaudio, but they vanished
[2:43] <Nasuga> Sonny_Jim: I guess siwica was just impatient, couldn't wait for an answer. ^_^
[2:43] <Nasuga> I tried PMing him also
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[2:44] <pksato> HtheB: this is 'standard' output uses of 555 as pwm http://www.circuitdiagram.org/dc-motor-control-pwm-555.html
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[2:45] <pksato> you circuit can be work too.
[2:45] <pksato> just need to figure out what happens.
[2:45] <pksato> have a oscilloscope?
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[2:46] <pksato> what is C1 value, and R1? (on 555)
[2:46] <pksato> R2
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[2:46] <HtheB> yes, 1-7 turns off the leds
[2:47] <HtheB> C1 0.1 uF ceramic capacitor
[2:47] <HtheB> C1 = 0.1 uF ceramic capacitor
[2:48] <pksato> and R2? you know?
[2:48] <HtheB> R1 = Resistor 4.7 KOhm
[2:48] <HtheB> R2 = 10 KOhm Potentiometer
[2:48] <HtheB> D1-2 = 1N4148 Switching Diode
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[2:49] <pksato> 555 is working?
[2:49] <HtheB> yeah, if I short circ. 1 and 7, it will turn off the leds
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[2:49] <pksato> build a standard astable to test ot.
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[2:50] <pksato> no. 1 to 7 is to test if Q1 is working as expected.
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[2:50] <pksato> or this configuration not work.
[2:50] <pksato> or 555 not working.
[2:51] <pksato> or R2 is not have a propper value.
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[2:52] <Ownix> Hey guys, what web brower do you guys use on Raspbain? It seems like Chromium on apt is a super old version and there is no Firefox so you need to use Iceweasel does this sound correct?
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[2:53] <Ownix> also https://www.youtube.com/html5 is showing that I do not have H.264 support even though the Pi 2 is supposed to have a free license for it
[2:53] <pksato> you want to controll led brightness? (with out 555) simple way, connect cursor of R2 to Q1 base, and one of R2 leg to GND, is not perfect control.
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[2:56] <HtheB> pksato would it work with the pot meter?
[2:57] <HtheB> (can you edit the schematic for me to see what you mean?)
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[3:05] <HtheB> pksato?
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[3:31] <HtheB> pksato: unbelievable, it works!
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[3:34] <Ownix> how the heck do I get gstreamer working with Raspbain
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[3:35] <Ownix> Iceweasel is compiled with it enabled but I dont think it works since youtuibe is telling me my browser does NOT support H.264
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[3:46] <Phosis> Hey folks...I am having difficulty. I have been trying to edit my config.txt to set my Raspberry up for the proper resolution of my TV. But no matter what amendments I make, None of them are being reflected, and my resolution is stuck to the squished default settings.
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[3:46] <Phosis> .
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[4:11] <HtheB> I've installed a potentiometer on my PiTFT to change brightness, but the brightness level goes way too quick on 100%
[4:11] <HtheB> (like this: www.htheb.com/list/images/pitft/potentiometer.jpg )
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[4:13] <HtheB> does anyone know what I can do to make it more like www.htheb.com/list/images/pitft/potentiometer2.jpg ?
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[4:42] <cehteh> HtheB: i wanted to point that out yesterday, but forgotten
[4:42] <cehteh> your poti increases the brightness with some linear pwm, but human perception is rather logarithmic
[4:43] <HtheB> cehteh: well, it works perfectly on the original gameboy.. :P
[4:43] <cehteh> there is a complete different circruit or?
[4:43] <HtheB> sure, it's a whole device attached to it :D
[4:43] <HtheB> anyway, even if it's linear, it does it job at the moment
[4:44] <HtheB> glad that its working ^^
[4:44] <HtheB> at least, I can dim the light when playing at night
[4:44] <cehteh> or is it really a logarithmic poti (i doubt that) .. but if just switch pin 1 with pin 3 and see if it improves
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[4:44] <HtheB> cehteh I've dismantled everything already
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[4:44] <HtheB> the method of pksato works
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[4:45] <HtheB> I only used a 1N4148 and a potmeter
[4:45] <HtheB> nothing else
[4:45] <cehteh> so it works now or what?
[4:45] <HtheB> yeah
[4:45] <cehteh> ok
[4:45] <HtheB> ^^
[4:45] * HtheB is happy
[4:46] <HtheB> now, on to the buttons
[4:46] <cehteh> haha k
[4:46] <HtheB> it's almost 5:00
[4:46] <cehteh> here too :D
[4:46] <HtheB> dont want to stop now... :D
[4:46] <HtheB> cehteh, where u from?
[4:46] <cehteh> germany
[4:46] <HtheB> ach so
[4:46] <cehteh> :)
[4:46] <HtheB> neighbour
[4:46] <cehteh> i see :)
[4:46] <Froolap> any chance that the os selection will be increased shortly?
[4:47] <cehteh> what os selection?
[4:47] <Froolap> http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/
[4:47] <cehteh> and what do you miss? MSDOS? OS/2?
[4:47] <HtheB> MSDOS ftw
[4:47] <HtheB> :D
[4:48] <Froolap> I miss something that will boot on my pi2b
[4:48] <cehteh> msdos should work through dosbox
[4:48] <HtheB> cehteh, yeah, I will use dosbox on my gameboy
[4:48] <cehteh> Froolap: whats "something" ?
[4:49] <HtheB> Froolap: there are many ready images for any pi available
[4:49] <HtheB> depends on what you're looking for
[4:49] <Froolap> I had pidora working, then the sd card died, I tried another sd card, but ya know, 50 formats later I can't get pidora or raspbarian to boot.
[4:49] <HtheB> format it with the SD Formatter first
[4:49] <cehteh> using linux or windows?
[4:49] <HtheB> (lol if he says mac)
[4:49] <Froolap> I came close to getting pidora to boot, but. seems it didn't initalize quite right and no keyboard/mouse
[4:50] <cehteh> and SD cards are not that reliable that you can reformat them many many times
[4:50] <cehteh> check the card
[4:50] <cehteh> a verbatim image on the card should boot unless your card or pi is broken
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[4:51] <Froolap> It's a card that had a working image from the pi B+, I reformatted it for the pi2b..... it never completed booting again.
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[4:51] <cehteh> how did you reformat it?
[4:52] <cehteh> has the pib+ also microsd? .. i never had one
[4:52] <Froolap> I'm counting on the image being broken, as when I installed a week or so ago, there were a lot more os images available and they were listed as supporting PI-B+ or PI2B
[4:53] <Froolap> Yes the pi2B has micro sd, and I used the sdformat tool to format it/......
[4:53] <cehteh> huh .. what OS image do you miss?
[4:53] <cehteh> sdformat is from windows or what?
[4:53] <Froolap> All the ones that aren't there now. There used to be a lot of them, like 8 or 12.....
[4:54] <Froolap> GEEZ, I followed the directions that were on the web page when I got the piB+ same tool. I just don't have all the images that I used to have....
[4:54] <cehteh> looking over that list, i dont really miss any
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[4:55] <cehteh> besides i only needed one image to start :)
[4:56] <HtheB> :D
[4:56] <cehteh> you have a linux machine at hand?
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[5:03] <Froolap> yes I do.... not a guru, would need to reboot
[5:05] <Froolap> I did just now get it to boot raspbarian (blah) so the sd card is still good. I wish I could get pidora running on it again.....
[5:05] <cehteh> you can check your sdcard from linux with 'badblocks' and transfer a image with 'dd'
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[5:06] <Froolap> it doesn't matter how I transfer the image, if the image won't boot on the pi2
[5:06] <cehteh> when it just boots it doesnt mean the SD card is good, booting accesses only a tiny bit of the card
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[5:07] <cehteh> i somewhat doubt the image is broken, but maybe check the forum for bug reports
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[5:08] <Froolap> It's not the same image that was available a week or so ago..... what I had then worked, what I get now doesn't.
[5:08] <cehteh> and you didnt kept the old image?
[5:09] <Froolap> and it doesn't matter how many different sd cards I try it on, same results
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[5:09] <Froolap> NO, I had a virus take out my drive, it's dead.
[5:09] <Froolap> I suppose that's my fault too.
[5:09] <cehteh> lolwhat?
[5:10] <cehteh> virus taking out a drive?
[5:10] <cehteh> anyway ... i just checked, i never downloaded pidora
[5:10] <Froolap> yeah, it happens when you tell the drive to seek a sector that is 3 inches beyond the edge of the platter.
[5:11] <cehteh> http://pidora.ca/pidora/releases/
[5:11] <Froolap> you bang the head against the stops enough times and it goes out of alignment
[5:11] <cehteh> check there, looks like there are older images archived
[5:12] <cehteh> you can not to that from software
[5:13] <cehteh> we are not in 1980 anymore, drives manages sectors differently and there is no chance to make such an low level access
[5:14] <cehteh> uhm lemme think .. i brought my first harddrive in 1989 or so, for an insane price
[5:15] <cehteh> 40MB .. $1250 (2500 German Mark)
[5:16] <cehteh> even on the scsi drives that time you couldnt do that
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[5:21] <Froolap> well, for whatever reason, it's unreadable, and won't take a format.
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[5:25] <cehteh> .. thats whats raid is for :d
[5:26] <Froolap> quit attacking me because I'm having problems
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[5:29] <cehteh> i pointed you to what looks like an archive of pidora releases
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[6:14] <AfterDarkness> hello i just got my raspberry pi 2 today :D
[6:14] <AfterDarkness> and i am wondering about how to write the img to the sd card
[6:15] <AfterDarkness> my machine is powered by ubuntu
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[6:17] <puzzola> AfterDarkness: dd is the usual way to do it, yeah.
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[6:20] <puzzola> there is also a GUI tool called ubuntu imagewriter
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[9:56] <slvmchn> i see the ding, from days ago... how am i to know?
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[12:33] <dave44> which GPIO ports should I use to connect a USB RS 232 serial interface to my rpi 2?
[12:34] <Anton2k> RaspberryPi 2 b quad core or an equivalent android box to run kodi? which would be more stable
[12:34] <Xark> dave44: There are RX and TX hardware serial pins, I would think you want to use those.
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[12:34] <ppq> http://elinux.org/RPi_Low-level_peripherals
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[12:35] <Xark> Anton2k: OpenELEC works great on RPi IME.
[12:35] <dave44> Xark: doh
[12:35] <Xark> ppq: Thanks, I was just going to post that... :)
[12:35] <dave44> ppq: is that one for the rpi 2?
[12:35] <Anton2k> would you say its more stable? i've had the mk802 and didnt find it very stable at all
[12:35] <Xark> dave44: Pinout matches B+ AFAIK
[12:35] <ppq> dave44, no, but its the same
[12:36] <dave44> mkay, so 13 (ground), 14 TX and 15 RX
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[12:37] <Xark> dave44: Sounds believable. :) You can enable the "boot spam" from Linux kernel via rpi-config (and I think it will then let you login from serial - or easy to add).
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[12:38] <dave44> I get nothing :(
[12:39] <ppq> RX and TX is like USB plugs - you always do it the wrong way round the first (and second) time
[12:39] <ppq> good thing USB-C comes soon :)
[12:39] <dave44> tried them both ways :p
[12:39] <Xark> dave44: Did you enable boot spam?
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[12:39] <dave44> got this cable, https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruits-raspberry-pi-lesson-5-using-a-console-cable/connect-the-lead
[12:40] <dave44> The black lead to GND,
[12:40] <dave44> The white lead to TXD.
[12:40] <dave44> The green lead to RXD.
[12:40] <Xark> dave44: Yeah, I have one of those. Worked fine for me (but I haven't tried on RPi2 yet).
[12:40] <dave44> so I figure it's the same 13 black, 14 white, and 15 green
[12:41] <Xark> dave44: Yeah, AFAIK, the exact same as the picture you linked (even though 40 pin GPIO connector).
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[12:41] <dave44> mhm, I must be using the wrong pins...
[12:42] <Xark> Newer Rasban doesn't use the port by default...
[12:42] <Xark> dave44: This may have some info -> http://elinux.org/RPi_Serial_Connection
[12:43] <dave44> that picture is exactly what I thought it should be like
[12:43] <dave44> http://elinux.org/images/thumb/1/13/Adafruit-connection.jpg/300px-Adafruit-connection.jpg
[12:43] <dave44> but it has to be different for the rpi 2 ?
[12:43] <Xark> I don't think so...
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[12:44] <dave44> but I get null on the terminal :(
[12:44] <dave44> minicom says connected
[12:44] <dave44> but nothing
[12:44] <Xark> That means nothing
[12:44] <dave44> :(
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[12:45] <ShorTie> you most likely have to load the device tree driver for serial and then reboot, look at the README in /boot/overlays
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[12:45] <dave44> ShorTie: im using the arch iso, i think is that by default
[12:46] <Xark> dave44: See http://elinux.org/RPi_Hardware
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[12:47] <dave44> better check this with a hdmi cable istead ...
[12:48] <Xark> Or, better http://www.element14.com/community/docs/DOC-73950/l/raspberry-pi-2-model-b-gpio-40-pin-block-pinout
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[12:51] <dave44> bah, hdmi output was also blank
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[12:51] <dave44> maybe the sdcards bad
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[13:01] <dave44> aha, looks like I had the wrong sd card ;) this one is from the wifes galaxt 5 phone :D
[13:01] <Armand> Deeeeeeeeeerp!
[13:01] <Armand> lol
[13:01] <dave44> no wonder it wouldn't boot :D
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[13:02] <dave44> they are identical
[13:02] <Xark> :)
[13:02] <dave44> except for the data on them, doh
[13:02] <Armand> One of the few times I can be glad my wife likes the iPonies.. No memory card to confuse. :P
[13:02] <dave44> I wounder if the galxy phone likes the archarm version
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[13:04] <heller\> anyone know how to shrink my raspbian image to less than 8gb?
[13:04] <ShorTie> Yuppers ... :)
[13:05] <ShorTie> https://www.dropbox.com/s/c0t13u5awa60kwy/Image_Shrinker.tar.bz2?dl=0
[13:05] <dave44> http://elinux.org/RPi_Resize_Flash_Partitions
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[13:07] <ShorTie> that is just howto resize partition, enlarge, which will not effect the image
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[13:11] <dave44> woho! it's alive
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[13:12] <dave44> nice 1GB ram instead of 256MB
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[13:21] <Xark> \o/ Yay!
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[13:34] <Froolap> I can akmost get it to boot, but no keyboard/mouse to complete first boot.
[13:35] <ShorTie> you can run raspi-config by ssh
[13:35] <ShorTie> it even tells you too
[13:36] <ShorTie> until you do i believe, then it takes the message out
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[13:37] <Froolap> not if I can't get the system to the point where it wants to connect the network
[13:38] <Froolap> and pidora does not include raspi-config
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[13:42] <Froolap> the pidora image doesn't even want to boot on the pi2, so I used the raspbarian uboot wth the pidora ext4 which starts to boot and then no keyboard/mouse
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[13:44] <ShorTie> oh, sorry, didn't know it was pidoro or anything about it
[13:45] <ShorTie> sounds like you got a rpi2, you got a rpi maybe ??
[13:45] <Froolap> I have both, working on the rpi2 currently, the rpiB+ is running nicely.
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[13:46] <Froolap> I am working on the rpi2, because the rpi2 isn't working. :)
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[13:47] <ShorTie> maybe get rpi-update and try running that to get new firmware/kernels
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[13:47] <ShorTie> that might be easier then changes sources.list if it is not standard
[13:48] <Froolap> I can't get to command line/gui or net connect..... it doesn't register any devices... no keyboard, mouse or network controllers
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[13:48] <ShorTie> with it booted on the rpi ??
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[13:49] <Froolap> it does give a pretty boot up screen that says click next to continue and that's as far as it goes
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[13:50] <Froolap> it appears that the rpi and rpi2 do not use the same uboot
[13:50] <ShorTie> ok, I'll you you get to your play
[13:50] <ShorTie> they do not use the same kernel
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[13:51] <Froolap> whatever it is..... I can't take the chip ffrom one and boot the other.
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[13:51] <ShorTie> and firmware needs to be after 1/31/2015 so it knows what a rpi2 is
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[13:52] <ShorTie> you need to update the firmware/kernel of old images to work on rpi2's
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[13:52] <Froolap> how do I do that if it doesn't boot?
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[13:52] <ShorTie> anything before 1/31/2015 doesn't know what a rpi2 is
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[13:53] <ShorTie> normally can do that from a rpi with either a regular update/upgrade or rpi-update
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[13:54] <Froolap> chicken and the egg.
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[13:57] <ShorTie> speaking of chickens
[13:57] <ShorTie> time to go check the chicks
[13:57] <ShorTie> havem fun
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[14:06] <ahop> Do you know if it's possible to drive this with GPIO ? http://img.banggood.com/thumb/view/upload/2014/05/SKU120072/SKU120072a.jpg
[14:06] <ahop> it's a "4-bit LED Digital Tube Module" (7 segment display)
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[14:07] <ahop> Here is it for Arduino: http://playground.arduino.cc/Main/TM1637
[14:07] <ahop> It's based on TM1637: https://github.com/avishorp/TM1637/blob/master/TM1637Display.cpp
[14:08] <ahop> How to write on this with Pi?
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[14:30] <strobelight> saw an episode of CSI Cyber last night and saw a Raspberry PI
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[14:32] <CoJaBo> strobelight: I like how they use actual things in that one =D
[14:32] <CoJaBo> It's at least semi-plausible.
[14:33] <strobelight> yep
[14:33] <strobelight> someone more tech savvy consulting I guess
[14:34] <CoJaBo> strobelight: I first noticed it on the crossover episodes; the difference is night and day o_O
[14:36] <strobelight> ever since the actor who play Grissom left, haven't watched regularly, but the Cyber series intrigued me
[14:36] <ozzzy> I find tv dramas unwatchable
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[14:37] <CoJaBo> It's kinda hard to follow along when every major turning point of the plot it pure gibberish lol
[14:37] <CoJaBo> is*
[14:38] <CoJaBo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU
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[14:39] <strobelight> wow, that's a good gibberish example
[14:39] <CoJaBo> Might as well have had that character speaking in Klingon or something rofl
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[14:40] <CoJaBo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ
[14:40] <strobelight> yep
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[14:41] <CoJaBo> strobelight: I can't find the first Cyber scene, but they used frames of a video like bracketed exposures to make an HDR composite
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[14:42] <ozzzy> CoJaBo, 'stacking'... we've been doing that in astrophotography for a long time
[14:42] <CoJaBo> Yep.. I did whatever the hearing equivelent of a double-take is when I heard that o_O
[14:43] <strobelight> the rest of my family looks at me strange when I burst out laughing at some of these intense scenes
[14:44] <CoJaBo> Usually they just say, "Ok, let's apply the pythagorean algorythm to zoom in! Pixelify that sector! Rotate 90° on the Z-axis!"
[14:44] <CoJaBo> ..amusingly, that Numb3rs scene, they get the correct port number for IRC
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[14:46] <strobelight> (now back to your regularly scheduled topic)
[14:46] <CoJaBo> ..it actually vaguely looks like irssi lol
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[14:49] <CoJaBo> strobelight: The graphics for CSICyber are still hilariously dumb tho.. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_VNaHqUgAA12Lb.png:large Hacker Fantastic @hackerfantastic · Mar 5Hollywood has spoken, “release malworm” is now a thing to be shouted in bedrooms across the globe… #CSICyber
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[14:54] <strobelight> what language is that anyway? Looks like a syntax error should've been generated
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[14:55] <CoJaBo> It looks like they took C-ish code, then inserted "release malworm" somewhere random in the middle for no logical reason..
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[15:30] <Ownix> hey guys, I have a .sh file but it appears I can only run it with 'bash file.sh'
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[15:31] <Ownix> Can someone explain why running it 3 different ways gives me three different output?
[15:31] <Ownix> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Hc8DydPs
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[15:34] <Groggy> Ownix: doesn't the "./" need it to be executable. Like chmod +x <filename>
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[15:34] <shauno> the first instance is because /bin/sh has a slightly different behaviour to bash itself (it makes bash do bash --posix to emulate the 70s better)
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[15:34] <shauno> think of it like a backwards-compatible mode, where things that are specific to bash just won't fly
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[15:35] <Ownix> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/AuEh2Ysz
[15:35] <Ownix> Groggy: thats what I dont get... ^
[15:36] <Ownix> shauno: I can understand that. so is doing sh myschript.sh === ./myscript.sh ??
[15:37] <shauno> ./myscript.sh will use whichever intrepreter is used in the first line of the file (the 'shebang' #! line)
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[15:38] <rymate1234> any advantages of using raspian over ubuntu?
[15:38] <shauno> (and in that last paste, you're doing -x, not +x, so you're removing x rather than adding x)
[15:40] <shiftplusone> rymate1234: yes
[15:41] <Ownix> shiftplusone: XD
[15:41] <Ownix> whops
[15:41] <Ownix> rymate1234: well Raspbain is custom tailored to the raspberry pi
[15:41] <rymate1234> in what way though other than the packages
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[15:43] <Ownix> rymate1234: for starters it comes with compilation settings adjusted to produce code that uses "hardware floating point", the "hard float" ABI and will run on the Raspberry Pi.
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[15:43] <shiftplusone> Ownix: ubuntu is hard float as well.
[15:44] <shiftplusone> in fact, it's a little better tuned for the pi 2 than raspbian, since raspbian maintains compatibility with pi 1.
[15:44] <Ownix> :o
[15:44] <Ownix> I didnt know that
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[15:44] <Tachyon`> ahh, ubuntu uses arm7 binaries?
[15:45] <shiftplusone> well, arm*v*7
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[15:48] <Bilby> *yawn* morning all
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[15:51] <Ownix> Morning Phil!
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[16:29] <asdf150408> hi all. I'm looking for the source code for Broadcom's openmaxil library (I heard that the whole stack is open now except for the binary kernel blob) - github.com/raspberrypi/firmware just contains the openmaxil.so. Anyone know where the source code is?
[16:29] <Bilby> Morning asdf150408. No clue here, but it's fairly likely someone does
[16:30] <asdf150408> cool.
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[16:33] <shiftplusone> asdf150408: it's open, but the firmware does the heavy lifting. You'll see a lot of functions which just tell the firmware to do the thing.
[16:33] <shiftplusone> don't know about that specific file off the top of my head though
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[16:38] <asdf150408> I see... I'm coming up video_decode's "Incoming frames will be buffered to protect against file system read latency when playing back" "feature". I realise some buffering is necessary (B-pictures etc.) but it seems to use much more than it needs, when I'm controlling the packet input rate elsewhere.
[16:38] <asdf150408> Thanks for the warning
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[16:45] <thescatman> Anyone here used multiplayer on retropie? I'm mainly using mupen64plus but any emulator would be useful to know that it works
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[16:46] <Sonny_Jim> Do you mean networked or more than one controller?
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[16:59] <TrickyD> anybody know what im doing wrong when i hooked up my rpi to a 2.1A phone charger and i still keep getting the rainbow square ?
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[17:00] <ShorTie> cheap micro-usb cable ??
[17:01] <TrickyD> does the cable matter? the block is a apple charger, the cable i dont know where i got it from
[17:01] <ShorTie> oh ya
[17:02] <ShorTie> it has a big impact on performance
[17:02] <TrickyD> could that also explain crashing ?
[17:02] <TrickyD> (only did that twice or so)
[17:02] <ShorTie> basically i'd say, if it doesn't have 24awg printed on it some where, you need a better 1
[17:03] <TrickyD> 24awg?
[17:03] <ShorTie> ya
[17:03] <TrickyD> thing is where i live its really hard getting good stuff....but i guess i better get looking :(
[17:05] <ShorTie> don't know where you live, but just about any store like walmart should have 1, just need spend the little extra on it
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[17:06] <ShorTie> get a regular micro-usb cable, not a phone charging cord
[17:06] <TrickyD> no wallmart here, i live on aruba and almost all electronics are sold by chinese here, and its almost all chinese quality :)
[17:07] <ShorTie> heck, some of the cheap phone charging cords don't even have wire but tensle coated plastic as wire
[17:07] <TrickyD> stupid question but what is the difference and hwo do i see if its micro usb instead of phone charger
[17:07] * Bilby for the millionth time wishes there were screw terminals or at least solder points to use as alternate for the micro usb
[17:08] <ShorTie> normaly by the size and the writing on it
[17:08] <TrickyD> the awg24 thing ?
[17:08] <jer> TrickyD, i feel your pain, i'm in Costa Rica; similar problem.
[17:09] <ShorTie> ya, it might have like 2-28awg/2-24awg on it
[17:09] <Bilby> I wonder if anyone makes a microusb -> screw terminal adapter
[17:09] <ShorTie> the 29's are data wires and the 24's are power
[17:09] <SpeedEvil> Bilby: choccy block + microUSB cable + ...
[17:09] <Chillum> Bilby: hot glue?
[17:10] <strobelight> what would I need to view http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/NTV-Public-IPS.m3u8?
[17:10] <methuzla> Bilby agree, wish they would leave the micro usb unsoldered. have a foot print for it along with a screw terminal foot print. let end user decide.
[17:10] <ShorTie> bilby they need to chunk the micro-usb thing and go to a barrel
[17:10] <methuzla> Bilby what i've done is solder to PP1 and PP3 on A+
[17:10] <Bilby> either option is good, especially for the 2 and its higher power overhead
[17:10] <TrickyD> shortie just a funny dumb thing but most of our things have that on here! ( awg is our local money like your $ )
[17:10] <TrickyD> sorry for the bad joke :)
[17:10] <Chillum> microusb is convenient however a lot of those cables suck and they don't couple as well as they could
[17:10] <Bilby> i'm either way about a barrel, I feel like micro screw terminals would be the most flexible
[17:11] <TrickyD> im going shopping, thanks for the advice shortie!
[17:11] <ShorTie> actually, if you look it up at newark/farnell, the micro-usn power connection part is only rated for 1.8amps
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[17:11] <Bilby> strobelight Chrome prompted me for VLC
[17:12] <ShorTie> and the foundation recommends a 2.5amp supply, so put the 2 together
[17:12] <Bilby> m3u is a playlist file, i'd assume m3u8 is too
[17:12] <strobelight> Bilby: you have chrome on the pi?
[17:12] <Bilby> hah, no
[17:12] <ozzzy> having said that... my Pi2 runs fine powered by a USB3 port
[17:12] <Bilby> i'm on win7 right now
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[17:12] <Bilby> thought you were asking more in general <_<
[17:12] <ozzzy> including the wifi dongle and ssd drive
[17:12] <strobelight> no, how to view that on the pi
[17:12] * ozzzy has chromium on his pi
[17:13] <Bilby> it depends on the stream type
[17:13] <ozzzy> kodi has an add-on for nasatv
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[17:13] <Bilby> hmm...
[17:13] <ShorTie> not saying it will not work, just that they are taking it beyound manufacture spec's, which isn't good in my mind
[17:13] * Bilby now wonders how much it would cost to get a China factory to kick out ~ 1000 micro-usb A to screw terminal connectors
[17:14] <ozzzy> they probably won't touch a small order like that
[17:14] <Bilby> Yeah, no one makes the connector now so it'd be a new part. Maybe a small production-capable hackerspace
[17:15] <ShorTie> Bilby, i got male micro-usb ends off of ebay and use 18ga wire, big difference i tell ya
[17:15] <Bilby> I'm thinking something like this, but with a USB connector --> https://d114hh0cykhyb0.cloudfront.net/images/uploads/screw-terminal-adapter-CPS-M2ST.jpg
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[17:15] <ShorTie> like 10 ends for a buck
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[17:17] <Bilby> My hands are probably not steady enough to solder micro-usb connectors haha
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[17:19] <ShorTie> key to any good solder job is tinning
[17:20] <ShorTie> then your like not trying to solder by adding solder, but just melting it while holding it in place
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[17:23] <Bilby> ShorTie that's true, and I'm a lot better than I used to be
[17:23] <Bilby> still feel like I need a Guinness or two before I start...
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[17:25] <Bilby> hmm... and I do need to put a mouser order in this weekend...
[17:25] <ShorTie> na, just good holding devices, i use a vise to hold the micro-usb part them i'm only fidling with the wire and iron
[17:25] <Sonny_Jim> I like those little crocodile clip men you can get
[17:26] <Sonny_Jim> Got a magnifying glass for a head and bendable arms with clips on the end
[17:26] <ShorTie> of course it is a small machinest vise with flat jaws
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[17:26] <Sonny_Jim> No idea what the proper name for them is though
[17:27] <Sonny_Jim> http://www.amazon.com/Helping-Magnifier-Alligator-Jeweler-Soldering/dp/B00FGX5YYS
[17:27] <Sonny_Jim> These things, +1 would buy again
[17:27] <ShorTie> ya, the lighted magnifying lamp helps too...
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[17:27] <Bilby> I have one of those and it's crazy helpful
[17:27] <Bilby> i wish i had a permanent statino
[17:28] <Sonny_Jim> Top tip: Put heatshrink over the clips to stop them scratching boards/cutting wire surrounds
[17:28] <ShorTie> this type, but mine has a base http://www.zoro.com/i/G4477557/?utm_source=google_shopping&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Google_Shopping_Feed&gclid=CMKzvOyC58QCFWMV7AodGAIA3w
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[17:29] <Bilby> Wait, the cord side of Micro-usb is considered the female? that's confusing
[17:30] <ShorTie> nop, cord is male
[17:30] <ShorTie> rpi and charger are female
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[17:32] <Bilby> Okay, mouser's labeling is just horrible
[17:34] <ShorTie> these things http://www.ebay.com/itm/10pcs-Micro-USB-5-Pin-T-Port-Male-Plug-Socket-Connector-Plastic-Cover-for-DIY-fo-/291333979586?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item43d4dbbdc2
[17:35] <Bilby> Wow that is super cheap, thanks for the link
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[17:39] <ShorTie> while your ordering, get 1 of these too, lol. http://www.ebay.com/itm/361162327436?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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[17:45] <ppq> ShorTie, :O
[17:45] <ppq> nice
[17:45] <ppq> looks useful to protect the pi against unreliable PSUs
[17:48] <Sonny_Jim> I think a 10 cent fuse would provide more protection.....
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[17:49] <ppq> i mean if there's power losses from time to time
[17:51] <ShorTie> just a quick easy way to check your voltages
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[17:52] <ShorTie> plug it into charger, then plug it into a usb port
[17:52] <Froolap> firefox prompted me for vlc.... but i'm not seeing anything
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[17:55] <ppq> ShorTie, oh, i thought it had a battery
[17:55] <ppq> because of the mAh display
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[17:56] <ShorTie> that is for current draw
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[18:02] <thescatman> oh sorry ShorTie had to go afk
[18:02] <thescatman> Yeah, I'm trying to do local multiplayer
[18:02] <thescatman> It seems to work in most emulators but is really dodgy in n64
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[18:09] <Bilby> hmm... you think putting this on the end of a MicroUSB connector would be too much stress on the jack? http://www.ebay.com/itm/111373398545
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[18:10] <ShorTie> not with enough epoxy
[18:11] <Bilby> hah. I'm hoping for something a little more polished than that :P
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[18:11] <Sonny_Jim> That was weird
[18:11] <Sonny_Jim> Erk
[18:11] <Bilby> I think if I get it close enough to the jack proper so it's not sitting on the end of a long lever arm it should be okay
[18:12] <ShorTie> i'd was thinking of like 6" of wire, so you take the stress off of the pi's connector/board
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[18:24] <Bilby> ShorTie that's probably a good idea
[18:25] <Bilby> Someone on Tindie has a Pi PSU that is a GPIO stacker and has voltage reg etc on it... that's nice but it's a lil pricy and overkill
[18:25] <Bilby> I want something that adds as little complexity as possible
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[18:27] <Bilby> I think I'm going to order some parts and play around, see what works well.
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[18:30] <HtheB> guys, what is the best place to get 5 volt from rpi1(B)?
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[18:31] <gschanuel> HtheB, from? gpio
[18:31] <HtheB> I want to connect a audio amplifier
[18:31] <HtheB> but it needs to hook to 5V somewhere
[18:32] <gschanuel> you may need a powerfull power supply to raspberry
[18:32] <HtheB> solder directly to microusb is a bit hard
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[18:36] <Bilby> HtheB you don't want to pull directly from the Pi, generally. You can pull from the GPIO +5v pin up to the available supply from the MicroUSB pin, but you're going to hit that cap really quickly
[18:36] <Bilby> what's he current draw on the amplifier?
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[18:38] <HtheB> Bilby: i really don't know
[18:39] <Bilby> Well, where are you getting it?
[18:41] <HtheB> it's a simple arduino amplifier
[18:41] <HtheB> i will connect it to the 3.5 audio jack
[18:43] <HtheB> although, I will attach a battery, maybe soldering to the battery would be a better idea?
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[18:45] <Bilby> If you're powering it from a battery it's probably better to go directly to the battery.
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[18:45] <HtheB> tnx
[18:46] <Bilby> do you have a link to the amplifier?
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[18:50] <steve_rox> damn this rpi2 is starting to smell toasty
[18:55] <Chillum> really? I run mine hot and never had any smells
[18:55] <Chillum> watch out the magic smoke does not get out
[18:55] <steve_rox> gotta find the cmd to read cpu temp again
[18:56] <steve_rox> 57'c
[18:56] <steve_rox> cant rember what the max is
[18:57] <Chillum> I have gotten to 63 without issue
[18:57] <Froolap> I don't recall exactly but i think it's somewhere aroung 80c-85c, my money is on 87c
[18:57] <Chillum> though I added heat sinks and that brough them down into mid-50s
[18:58] <steve_rox> maybe its the perspex plastic thats kickin up the stank
[18:58] <Chillum> you don't want to get near the max though
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[18:58] <Chillum> cheap power supplies sometimes burn their insulation
[18:59] <steve_rox> well im running it off a lipo batt at moment
[18:59] <steve_rox> try see what kinda runtime i can yet
[18:59] <steve_rox> have a emulator running on it which is clocking up the useage
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[19:02] <steve_rox> maybe ill shove a tiny heatsink thing on it sometime
[19:05] <HtheB> Bilby works great
[19:05] <thescatman> steve_rox, 57c? Man that's low
[19:05] <steve_rox> whats a bilby
[19:05] <steve_rox> prob low yeah
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[19:05] <thescatman> I think I get 70c with a heatsink and 1.23GHz
[19:05] <steve_rox> guess im still not used to feelin cpu's at crazy temps
[19:05] <Bilby> HtheB as long as it works haha
[19:06] <HtheB> Bilby, but I have 1 problem :P
[19:06] <steve_rox> way i see it its pointless to add a heatsink unless it has a fan on it too
[19:06] <HtheB> even when the power is "switched off" from the battery, it still tries to activate it O_o
[19:06] <shiftplusone> in which case, it's still pointless, but effectively so.
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[19:09] <nfk|laptop> [19:56] <steve_rox> cant rember what the max is // silicon processors themselves should handle at least 120-130°C internally (morons will tell you silicon chips can take more but that's the silicon crystal not a consumer CPU)
[19:09] <nfk|laptop> that having been said, the limit is usually around 60-90°C in most cases
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[19:10] <steve_rox> i think the errr cpu gov service clocks it down if it detects overheat too
[19:10] <steve_rox> not sure
[19:10] <Chillum> steve_rox: I added sinks without fans and they cooled by ab out 4 degrees. I keep them sideways and I get convection action happening
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[19:11] <Chillum> though a fan cools a lot more
[19:11] <Chillum> I am a big fan of silence in my computers
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[19:11] <steve_rox> yeah cos you move the hot air to a sink then the fan blows it off thu the fins
[19:11] <steve_rox> without airflow it has no where to gpo
[19:11] <steve_rox> go
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[19:11] <nfk|laptop> steve_rox, in theory, in practice some cpu's (such as highly clocked P4's will heat up in seconds hence even if they have some regulation, they still still fuck themselves up)
[19:11] <Chillum> yes, but without a fan it still rises because it is hot
[19:11] <Chillum> the sinks have _some_ effect, about 4-5C for me
[19:12] <steve_rox> maybe a small gpu cooling fan
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[19:14] <nfk|laptop> i'm not sure how you got to GPU and small
[19:14] <steve_rox> indeed
[19:14] <nfk|laptop> but whatever you like, just make sure it's of decent quality - you don't want it to rattle like some an-26
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[19:15] <steve_rox> hehe
[19:15] <nfk|laptop> only soviets could come up with a late 20'th century military plane with turboprops
[19:16] <nfk|laptop> also flies stupidly low so everyone can hear it coming
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[19:16] <Bilby> HtheB so the amplifier is still on even when the switch on the battery is off? Weird O_O
[19:17] <steve_rox> sure it ent french?
[19:17] <steve_rox> sounds like its a surrendering kinda plane
[19:17] <nfk|laptop> antonov 26? i'm fairly sure it's ukranian and designed in late 70's or even early 80's
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[19:18] <nfk|laptop> probably 70's but still they ought to have been able to make a jet engine by then
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[19:18] <nfk|laptop> it's even a tactical lifter, iirc, so there's no sense to make it turbopropped which has only fuel efficiency going for it if anything [not sure actually, maybe someone can clarify]
[19:19] <nfk|laptop> for crying out laud - b-52 is jet engined yet it was built in the 50's
[19:19] <nfk|laptop> iirc, that is
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[19:20] <Sonny_Jim> Jet engines no longer mean "higher/faster than a missle can hit"
[19:20] <Bilby> ME880 saw combat in WW2, and the speed of innovation in airplanes was massive from ~1930 - 170
[19:20] <nfk|laptop> Sonny_Jim, it was never true
[19:21] <Sonny_Jim> Err wait, this is #raspberrypi
[19:21] <nfk|laptop> a short range rocket can do like mach 30 for a few seconds
[19:21] <Bilby> well, the compression efficiency of jet turbines is what allowed the stealth bomber to get above SAM range, but that's a pretty specific case
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[19:21] <Sonny_Jim> How about we leave the military discussion to more relevant channels, eh?
[19:21] <steve_rox> :-D heh
[19:22] <Sonny_Jim> I thought I was in #kspofficial for a moment
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[19:22] <Bilby> Eh
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[19:22] <Chillum> unless you have a Raspberry Pi powered SAM project?
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[19:22] <nfk|laptop> Sonny_Jim, what is that?
[19:22] <Bilby> Maybe <_<
[19:22] <Bilby> not as far as the Federal Government of Mexico knows... for now! m uahahahahahaha
[19:22] <Froolap> you can't have a pi army without the three stooges
[19:23] <Sonny_Jim> nfk|laptop: Kerbal Space Program, rocket nerd game. Consequently military jets pop up in discussion from time to time
[19:23] <nfk|laptop> i see, have heard about it on xkcd.com
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[19:24] <Chillum> xkcd, funny stuff
[19:24] <nfk|laptop> more like essential stuff
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[20:08] <HtheB> does anyone know which gpio ports aren't used with the PiTFT?
[20:08] <HtheB> gpio pins*
[20:14] <shauno> HtheB: top-left, the ones in the lower block that don't have green blobs aren't used - https://learn.adafruit.com/system/assets/assets/000/013/040/original/raspberry_pi_pitftschem.png?1387563188
[20:16] <dreamon> anybody know where wicd saves its config? /etc/network/interfaces.. but it isnt
[20:16] <nfk|laptop> http://yle.fi/uutiset/move_to_erect_tom_of_finland_statue_in_helsinki/7912066 -- look at the title, finish humour at it's best
[20:16] <anunnaki> how do i find out the sound card info on a pi? lspci?
[20:17] <nfk|laptop> anunnaki, try it if you know the command
[20:17] <anunnaki> nfk|laptop: well the command isnt installed.. so i dont want to install it if its nto what i need
[20:17] <nfk|laptop> anunnaki, right, of course not since ARM has no PCI...
[20:17] <ShorTie> pi do not have a pci bus, so that 1 is kinda hard
[20:17] <anunnaki> i installed kali on my pi and it cant see the sound card
[20:17] <nfk|laptop> not that it's not installed, ARM has no standard way of probing devices at all
[20:18] <nfk|laptop> anunnaki, if it's some USB thingy, lsusb
[20:18] <nfk|laptop> if it's not, just google it has to be whatever comes in standard
[20:19] <anunnaki> well no im not using a usb thingy for sound.. i just installed a new os and its acting like the pi has no sound whatever its called if not a sound card..
[20:19] <nfk|laptop> just google or wiki
[20:19] <anunnaki> tried
[20:19] <nfk|laptop> or pick a different distro
[20:19] <anunnaki> distro is fairly new so.. not much google results
[20:19] <nfk|laptop> why would kali even have it? it's for security probing, right?
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[20:20] <anunnaki> nfk|laptop: yeah so why wouldnt they have sound?
[20:20] <nfk|laptop> no idea
[20:20] <nfk|laptop> just like i have no idea why would anyone have a distro for that purpose in the first place
[20:20] <anunnaki> i think its somethign with the pi B+ i was reading about people having to go out and buy some special sound card to attach to it
[20:21] <nfk|laptop> my b+ does have analogue output
[20:21] <anunnaki> nfk|laptop: i just installed it to learn to use the tools it comes with which i will then install on my laptop to play with
[20:21] <nfk|laptop> and HDMI which should have sound as well
[20:21] <shauno> they rarely need to, it's just the best way to get better audio without getting too messy with the hdmi port
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[20:21] <nfk|laptop> better audio?
[20:22] <shauno> I usually use aplay --list-devices to enumerate alsa devices
[20:23] <anunnaki> shauno: yeah aplay --list-devices shows no sound cards found
[20:23] <anunnaki> so im guessing this kernel doesnt have the required driver compiled
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[20:24] <shauno> or loaded. try "modprobe snd_bcm2835" ?
[20:25] <nfk|laptop> anunnaki, see, i told you, get a different distro
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[20:26] <nfk|laptop> unless device-tree can provide autodetection and actually works (no idea on either) there's no way to do it automatically ,basically either OS supports the particular hardware setup or not
[20:26] <nfk|laptop> welcome to arm TM
[20:27] <anunnaki> nfk|laptop: oh is that how it works..
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[20:27] <nfk|laptop> yes, this is why PC is so good
[20:28] <dreamon> at booting → FAT-fs (mmcblk0p1): Volume was not properly unmounted. Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck. → do I have to fix this?
[20:28] <shauno> I find it tends to just be over-optimizations. the same as rasbian nuking ipv6 by default. if kali has a network bent, and they still want it to work on the A+, they may blacklist modules they don't need just to script a little extra ram
[20:28] <nfk|laptop> UEFI and BIOS are derpy and all but at least you get standards and actual autoconfiguration
[20:28] <anunnaki> the distro was made specifically for the pi.. so dont see why its not working unless its a bug which i need to make them aware of.. but i dhoubt it
[20:28] <shauno> er, scrape a little more
[20:29] <anunnaki> i dont think they were considering memory too much because they included iceweasel as the browser which slows everything down when its ran.
[20:29] <nfk|laptop> anunnaki, was it? i thought it was just ported to ARM
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[20:30] <HtheB> shauno: I'm tolly lost :(
[20:30] <nfk|laptop> anunnaki, about:config and set memory.free_dirty_pages;true
[20:30] <zvonimir> Hi guys! Any idea why nfs-server and/or rpcbind doesn't start on boot?
[20:30] <nfk|laptop> there, fixed it for you
[20:31] <HtheB> I want to add a simple arduino 5v audio amplifier, but I don't know where to get the 5V
[20:31] <nfk|laptop> firefox is the fastest browser out there as long as you turn off that RETARDED WINDOWS PHIX
[20:31] <nfk|laptop> HtheB, set a GPIO to HIGH though do make sure it can supply the power needed
[20:32] <nfk|laptop> or find some other place in schematics or use an external power supply
[20:32] <HtheB> power as in Ampere?
[20:32] <nfk|laptop> power is measured in watts
[20:32] <zvonimir> I already had that problem on another pi and you helped me, but I forgot to write it down :(
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[20:34] <zvonimir> I'm guessing it's probably because rpcbind isn't started
[20:35] <zvonimir> but have no idea why it isn't and how to start it... :\
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[20:36] <nfk|laptop> HtheB, oh, sorry, yeah, you need to make sure the rasp's particular GPIO pin (if they have different limits) can supply the amperes that the whole amplifier setup will draw
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[20:38] <nfk|laptop> HtheB, also make sure it's a safe prolonged draw limit not max limit since they can be different
[20:39] <nfk|laptop> though maybe i have just worked too much with araduino and chinese parts that by definition lie about their limits and capabilities
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[20:41] <shauno> you should just be able to take supply from pin2 instead? that way it's just the softfuse in the way, not the gpio
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[20:41] <nfk|laptop> soft use?
[20:41] <Anotn2k> Look for some advice, for a mini htpc which is more stable an quad core android box i.e. mx box g box w/e running kodi or the latest raspberry pi running openelec?
[20:43] <shauno> http://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/usage/gpio/ has a pretty accessibly crash course on the pins. specifically, note that the gpios max at 3.3v, the two pins labelled 5v are , well, 5v
[20:43] <nfk|laptop> shauno, right
[20:43] <nfk|laptop> good to know
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[20:47] <nfk|laptop> shauno, wtf is with that pin numbering? april first was last week
[20:48] <Sonny_Jim> Phew. It's a slow and arduous process setting up metasploit on a Pi
[20:48] <Sonny_Jim> And it runs like treacle
[20:49] <shauno> yeah, that's the number of the gpio, not the number of the pin. it's messy
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[20:49] <shauno> they have physical numbering at the bottom of the same page (which still isn't how I expect it, but does mean the number didn't change when they added more pins)
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[20:51] <nfk|laptop> shauno, i still can't understand wtf you're on
[20:51] <nfk|laptop> there's only one pin numbering - the one you use in API
[20:52] <nfk|laptop> unless there are multiple ways you can enumerate them via APIs
[20:52] <nfk|laptop> then it's a royal fuckup
[20:52] <Sonny_Jim> There's physical numbering, BCM numbering, WiringPi numbering and erm
[20:52] <Sonny_Jim> Probably more
[20:52] <nfk|laptop> work of the satan
[20:53] <Sonny_Jim> "We have too many standards, the solution is, another standard"
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[20:55] <ShorTie> then we need to standardize our standards so we have standardized standards
[20:55] <giddles> hey em pals
[20:55] <giddles> hands on heart
[20:56] <zvonimir> The solution to problem I mentioned is to add starting the services in /etc/rc.local before the exit 0, if anyone's interested
[20:56] <giddles> do you got some fail2ban iptables for a rpi in your network?
[20:56] <giddles> or changed username
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[20:56] <giddles> is that common?
[20:57] <nfk|laptop> giddles, i have a soho router with custom firewall
[20:57] <giddles> or am i save behind my network with the running rpis
[20:57] <giddles> ?
[20:57] <nfk|laptop> comparable to enterprise grade stuff
[20:57] <giddles> i got also a router and i dont have an open port
[20:57] <giddles> i portscanned everything especially the open pi ports
[20:57] <nfk|laptop> giddles, just change the password and if possible use a pubkey
[20:57] <giddles> nettols always say to me: failed to open
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[20:58] <giddles> so i can save the fail2ban and iptable stuff?
[20:58] <Sonny_Jim> giddles: Unless you have setup some port forwards/have something running upnp on the Pi, then no one should be able to reach the Pi from the internet
[20:58] <ppq> for SSH its always a good idea to disable root login, enable key auth, change port to something 5 digits high, install fail2ban, etc.
[20:58] <giddles> upnp is deactivated... my pw got now 12 charakters
[20:58] <ppq> some for security, some just to keep your auth.log from growing too fast
[20:58] <nfk|laptop> ppq, the last two are a bit annoying
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[20:58] <Sonny_Jim> Have you setup any port forwards on your router?
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[20:58] <giddles> forbid root acess for ssh? :)
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[20:59] <Sonny_Jim> In rasbian there's no root password anyway
[20:59] <giddles> yes
[20:59] <giddles> sudo
[20:59] <nfk|laptop> giddles, NAT can still be circumvented as long as your Pi is talking to outside
[20:59] <giddles> i dont got a nat i done it over my route
[20:59] <giddles> r
[20:59] <ppq> nfk|laptop, with ctrl+r search in the terminal its not, you dont have to type it all..
[20:59] <nfk|laptop> whut?
[20:59] <giddles> ich scanned it bymyself and i cant find an acess..
[21:00] <Sonny_Jim> You *do* have NAT, it's what your router does for you
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[21:00] <nfk|laptop> active nat
[21:00] <giddles> i got a single hardware from astoria
[21:00] <giddles> dsl model + router in one box
[21:00] <nfk|laptop> you can't puncture NAT, at least not trivially if the device is not talking to outside
[21:00] <giddles> device is talking to google drive
[21:00] <giddles> :)
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[21:01] <Sonny_Jim> nfk|laptop: If the device is not talking to outside, then what's the point in having NAT in the first place?
[21:01] <nfk|laptop> giddles, google can in theory puncture it, i think
[21:01] <giddles> bruteforce :D
[21:01] <giddles> ^^
[21:01] <nfk|laptop> Sonny_Jim, you might have more than one device on LAN
[21:01] <Sonny_Jim> nfk|laptop: I don't think you understand what NAT is
[21:01] <giddles> how do you run sec on your pi's?
[21:01] <giddles> :)
[21:01] <giddles> @ ppl here
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[21:02] <nfk|laptop> Sonny_Jim, i more or less do
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[21:02] <Sonny_Jim> You don't need NAT to talk to devices that are on the same LAN as you
[21:02] <giddles> lan
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[21:02] <giddles> in my case wireless lan ;)
[21:03] <Sonny_Jim> NAT is so you can have a single IP address to access the internet, but use multiple devices on your LAN to access the internet
[21:03] <nfk|laptop> when i'm not running apt-get stuff on rasp it's not talking to the internet hence not using NAT even though i'm connected to it via ssh, now get off my case
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[21:03] <Sonny_Jim> That's false, as it'll try and contact NTP servers
[21:03] <Sonny_Jim> I'm on your case because you are giving people incorrect advice
[21:03] <nfk|laptop> okay, that's another case
[21:03] <nfk|laptop> i'm correct
[21:04] <nfk|laptop> it's just corner cases
[21:04] <giddles> noone cant give me incorrect advice ;) i knew what could i do ..
[21:04] <giddles> iptables
[21:04] <giddles> brb
[21:04] <giddles> :)
[21:04] <nfk|laptop> bullshit
[21:04] <nfk|laptop> unless you are joking
[21:04] <Sonny_Jim> Language
[21:04] <nfk|laptop> which you might be
[21:05] <nfk|laptop> Sonny_Jim, oh please, it's not like anyone under 20 is using irc
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[21:10] <SpeedEvil> I know a few 14 year-olds doing so
[21:10] <SpeedEvil> Or at least they were 14 when they started a couple of years ago
[21:10] <nfk|laptop> tell them to get a life
[21:11] <knob> nfk|laptop, got to keep to Flander's Family Safe.
[21:11] <nfk|laptop> i'm afraid i don't get that reference
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[21:17] <Scriptonaut> hey guys, will these work on the rpi? http://electronics.woot.com/plus/pny-dane-memory-cards-1?ref=cnt_wp_5
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[21:18] <ppq> probably.
[21:19] <Scriptonaut> how does one determine this? I bought 3 sd cards and 2 of them didn't work on the pi
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[21:19] <Sonny_Jim> What didn't they do?
[21:19] <ppq> there's a list of known to work cards somewhere
[21:19] <Scriptonaut> they wouldn't boot (error 45), and I tried 6 or so different OSes
[21:20] <Scriptonaut> raspian, ubuntu, arch, risc os, netbsd, and freebsd
[21:20] <Sonny_Jim> Weird. I've never had a problem with different SD cards.
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[21:20] <Sonny_Jim> You sure your cardreader isn't faulty?
[21:20] <Scriptonaut> ya, I tried several cardreaders too
[21:21] <Sonny_Jim> How were you writing the images?
[21:21] <Scriptonaut> this was over the period of like 3 years
[21:21] <Scriptonaut> dd, diskimager (some windows tool I think), some tool on os x too (I forget the name)
[21:21] <Sonny_Jim> Weird. Did the cards work OK otherwise?
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[21:22] <Sonny_Jim> As I've had cheap chinese SD cards report that they were 16GB, but were actually only 2GB and modified to report they were bigger
[21:22] <Scriptonaut> haha
[21:22] <Sonny_Jim> Once you went over 2GB it would loop round and destroy the fs
[21:22] <Scriptonaut> ya the cards worked in cameras and stuff
[21:22] <ozzzy> you just didn't have the compression set right
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[21:22] <Scriptonaut> the only annoying thing, is that allied electronics recommended the card to me for hte pi
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[21:22] <Scriptonaut> the day the first pi came out
[21:23] <Scriptonaut> then I went on to read about other people having the same problems
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[21:26] <nfk|laptop> Sonny_Jim, hilarious
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[21:27] <nfk|laptop> also i have been told to substract 30% from what chinese specification for EE parts says but that's way over 90% lie
[21:28] <steve_rox> eh?
[21:28] <nfk|laptop> -says
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[21:29] <nfk|laptop> steve_rox, chinese tend to lie about stuff like claiming a LED is dimmable when its PSU is designed to provide constant voltage or to claim a cheap motor control is able to drive basically household appliences
[21:29] <nfk|laptop> *controller
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[21:30] <Scriptonaut> hmm
[21:30] <Scriptonaut> so apparently those sd cards I posted don't work on the pi
[21:30] <Scriptonaut> http://elinux.org/RPi_SD_cards#Working_.2F_Non-working_SD_cards
[21:30] <steve_rox> they seem to lie about a lot of things
[21:30] <nfk|laptop> like i have here a servo controller that can control almost lethal voltages yet my instructor told me that i better don't try more than 30V
[21:30] <jer> s/like claiming.*//
[21:31] <Froolap> led is dimable, depends on how many tissues you place over it.
[21:31] <nfk|laptop> jer, why?
[21:31] <nfk|laptop> jer, oh, i see, evil
[21:31] <jer> nfk|laptop, my experience is that chinese vendors tend to stretch the truth a hell of a lot, not just in electronics either
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[21:33] * ozzzy just got his $5 hdmi->vga adapter... works great
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[21:36] <giddles> 5$.. think they betray me... 39 euro for b2..
[21:37] <giddles> whats uk sale price?
[21:37] <ozzzy> yeah... if I bought one in a store here they'd charge me for their various mortgages, employee salaries, heating and utilities and obscene profit for the owner....
[21:37] <ozzzy> the chinese not so much
[21:37] <giddles> yes
[21:37] <ozzzy> LOL
[21:37] <giddles> heating they cheated me
[21:38] <giddles> they put away the second gpio coolant
[21:38] <giddles> i got two big and one small
[21:38] <ozzzy> gpio coolant? heat sinks?
[21:38] <giddles> ehm gpu
[21:38] <giddles> :)
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[21:38] <giddles> yes some teko rpicool 9
[21:38] <giddles> :D
[21:38] <ozzzy> you don't need them
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[21:39] <giddles> well its better, im a hysterical german
[21:39] <giddles> :)
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[21:39] <nfk|laptop> giddles, what are you hysterical about?
[21:40] <Froolap> they ment to have the nick giggles but they were chuckling too much.
[21:41] <nfk|laptop> nick giggles?
[21:41] <giddles> well about insurance, burning, problems when im not there
[21:41] <nfk|laptop> by now people on this chan could as well be speaking french
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[21:41] <nfk|laptop> giddles, how did you avert it by attaching chinese made something to your electrically powered device?
[21:42] <nfk|laptop> generally that's like smoking at a gas station
[21:42] <giddles> no well
[21:42] <giddles> i even got an manual with
[21:42] <giddles> thats fucked up
[21:42] <nfk|laptop> covered with... that's gross
[21:42] <nfk|laptop> j/k, yeah, it's probably google translated
[21:43] <nfk|laptop> i have that in english for a project kit
[21:43] <nfk|laptop> or should i say engrish with chinese grammar
[21:43] <giddles> thats not rpi fault, its the dealer who want to sav some $?
[21:43] <giddles> i dont knew
[21:43] <ozzzy> well... that's about it... Pi, HDD, wireless, mouse/kbd and monitor.... it's all ready to fly
[21:43] <nfk|laptop> you're going chinese there yourself
[21:44] <giddles> i need some DIN EURO NORM STANDART CE shit
[21:44] <giddles> :)
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[21:44] <giddles> which i can tell my insurance: its save
[21:44] <nfk|laptop> giddles, more like they could not find anyone to translate or the translator just put it through the google translate and no one was wiser
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[21:44] <giddles> you dont knew about my insurance companys ;)
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[21:44] <ozzzy> everything but the PSU I built has CE/CSA/UL
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[21:45] <nfk|laptop> *safe not save and you basically put it on yourself and then sign it with generally fake name of chen smith yahoo
[21:45] <nfk|laptop> true story, i'm sure
[21:45] <giddles> hmk
[21:45] <HtheB> I just cant get it to work :(
[21:45] <HtheB> I am wondering how this guy made
[21:45] <HtheB> because I just cant get enough power
[21:45] <HtheB> https://superpiboy.wordpress.com/
[21:46] <nfk|laptop> giddles, well, maybe i went a little confusing, basically manufacturer or whoever cares has to have a chief something officer that signs a paper saying that it's CE/whatever certified
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[21:46] <nfk|laptop> at very best rfcomm stuff might get tested and certainly is gonna get attention if it malfunctions but other than that it's more or less as i described
[21:47] <HtheB> nfk|laptop, I hope that you could help me with this :P because I am trying to fix it for hours... :D
[21:48] <giddles> i drilled deep and found many things i dont like
[21:48] <giddles> :)
[21:48] <nfk|laptop> and i think nowadays consumer products sold in stored are tested for dangerous chemicals but if you ordered from china yourself, well, the good knews is that it might actually have a lable saying that lead kills
[21:49] <giddles> nah well im not on a rampart but i dont like that no manual was comming with
[21:49] <giddles> i should change my dealer
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[21:49] <nfk|laptop> bad meth?
[21:49] <giddles> meth oh dear
[21:49] * ozzzy doesn't particularly care what they build stuff out of as long as it works
[21:50] <giddles> well i use rpi when im not at home
[21:50] <nfk|laptop> ozzzy, sure, lead is hardly the worst thing you can encounter
[21:50] <giddles> i dont wanna pay for the whole fire if something from is the cause of such horror scenario
[21:50] <giddles> happen
[21:50] <nfk|laptop> i'd probably be more concerned about quicksilver and cadmium
[21:51] <giddles> ever smelled coolant bauxit glue?
[21:51] <nfk|laptop> giddles, just put it on a slab of concrete and with nothing flamable within half a meter at minimum and 1 meter if you want to be safe
[21:51] <nfk|laptop> there
[21:51] <giddles> you joking ;)
[21:51] <giddles> ..
[21:51] <nfk|laptop> no
[21:51] <nfk|laptop> that's what i'd do if i was actually paranoid
[21:51] <steve_rox> £14.99 for a rpi heatsinnk+fan wow someones makeing a killing
[21:51] <nfk|laptop> but i'm not
[21:51] <giddles> i buyed glass tiles
[21:52] <giddles> thats not paranoid
[21:52] <giddles> i only want to covered it by insurance
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[21:53] <nfk|laptop> giddles, seriously, just put it alone with nothing that could catch fire even if you put a burning charcoal doused in spirit on it and you should be fine in the super unlikely situation of rasp catching fire which is so unlikely that it should be news worthy
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[21:54] <giddles> well i dont outpointed that i dont care about if.. :) i care abou insurance and following costs in case of case
[21:55] <ozzzy> nfk, I've been breathing lead fumes for over 40 years.... not dead yet
[21:55] <nfk|laptop> ozzzy, i did that a year or two ago while desoldering some.. interesting stuff
[21:56] <nfk|laptop> certainly felt like puking afterwards
[21:56] <ozzzy> it's all in your mind
[21:56] <nfk|laptop> anyway, pure lead is not that dangerous
[21:56] <nfk|laptop> there's stuff that will kill you through asbestos gloves
[21:56] <nfk|laptop> and kevlar gloves
[21:57] <nfk|laptop> and other sturdy gloves all worn at the same time
[21:57] <ozzzy> gloves?
[21:57] <nfk|laptop> let me wiki it
[21:57] <ppq> lead is a cumulative poison, dont underestimate it just because you dont die immediately
[21:58] <ozzzy> there ain't not much out there that won't bite ya, stab ya or stick ya
[21:58] <giddles> sneaking death ;)
[21:58] <nfk|laptop> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethylmercury
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[21:59] <nfk|laptop> i'd say lovely stuff if it hadn't been used for teaching chemists for like half a century and if it hadn't killed in a horrible way a swedish female chemist about 25 years ago
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