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IRC Log for 2015-04-23

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[0:03] <methuzla> charlie_sanders im powering an A+ with lipo, what info are you after?
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[0:06] <tttuuu> hi guys I'm new to Raspberry Pi and I would like to know how to get a project from a disk image running
[0:06] <tttuuu> Specifically, I'm getting the pre-complied disk image http://jasperproject.github.io/documentation/installation/#quick-start
[0:07] <tttuuu> this is the jasperproject
[0:07] <charlie_sanders> methuzla, mostly just what are you using :) ? I'm looking at something like this https://www.adafruit.com/products/328 , how do you hook that up to the PI though ?
[0:07] <tttuuu> I have downloaded the jasper-disk-image.tar.gz on my raspberry pi
[0:07] <tttuuu> I don't know what to do about it
[0:08] <tttuuu> It seems like I need to get the jasper-disk-image.img onto a physical sd card
[0:08] <tttuuu> and image that sd card with that jasper-disk-image.img, right?
[0:09] <tttuuu> but my raspberry pi only has 1 sd card slot, for its micro sd card
[0:09] <tttuuu> so how can I add this second sd card with the jasper-disk-image.img?
[0:09] <tttuuu> I think I'm not getting something
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[0:11] <methuzla> charlie_sanders with something like this: https://www.adafruit.com/products/1903
[0:11] <methuzla> charlie_sanders or with built in charging: https://www.adafruit.com/products/1944
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[0:12] <TheLostAdmin> tttuuu, you might want to read the more detailed instructions from the project. They should point you at the tools to write the .img file to the sd card. You use your PC to write the image to the SD card before you plug it into your Pi.
[0:14] <methuzla> charlie_sanders another route is using RC stuff, like a BEC
[0:14] <tttuuu> TheLostAdmin, are you referring to the manual installation? http://jasperproject.github.io/documentation/installation/#manual-installation But it says that I won't need to for quick start.
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[0:17] <charlie_sanders> methuzla, do you think something like this would work http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Astro-Lipstick-Sized-Portable-Technology/dp/B005X1Y7I2/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1429741019&sr=1-5&keywords=portable+battery+pack ? I dont need to charge and power at the same time
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[0:20] <methuzla> maybe. if it can deliver the actual current demand of the pi.
[0:20] <TheLostAdmin> tttuuu, Yes I was. I am not at all familiar with the project you are experimenting with so their instructions may differ.
[0:21] <charlie_sanders> methuzla, I'll try it , if it doesnt work I'll send it back ;)
[0:21] <tttuuu> TheLostAdmin, I guess I have a general question. When a project needs to have an SD card imaged, wouldn't that wipe the SD card. Since there is only one SD card slot on raspberrypi, wouldn't that wipe out the Raspbian OS and everything
[0:21] <tttuuu> TheLostAdmin, so I guess my question is how to get this SD card imaged and onto raspberrypi
[0:21] <TheLostAdmin> charlie_sanders, that one says it maxes out at 1amp. It's going to be pretty close to maxed out if you have any peripherals connected to your Pi.
[0:22] <TheLostAdmin> tttuuu, yes it would wipe out the SD card that you write the image on to.
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[0:24] <charlie_sanders> TheLostAdmin, how many amps would I need ? woud two work ?
[0:24] <charlie_sanders> TheLostAdmin, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00P7N0320/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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[0:26] <TheLostAdmin> charlie_sanders, it depends on what you need BUT some things to keep in mind: the advertised max amps is usually a burst rate, not safely sustained. That 2nd one you linked looks more promising with it's claim of 2 amps.
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[0:28] <TheLostAdmin> annoyingly, the second one is not indicating the capacity of the battery.
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[0:31] <tttuuu> TheLostAdmin, but if I wipe out that SD card, wouldn't I wipe out the Raspbian OS?
[0:31] <TheLostAdmin> tttuuu, yes
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[0:31] <tttuuu> TheLostAdmin, does this mean that my Raspberry Pi is now ONLY going to be this Jasperproject
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[0:32] <TheLostAdmin> tttuuu, unless you put in a different SD card then you could boot different cards depending on your mood.
[0:32] <tttuuu> TheLostAdmin
[0:32] <tttuuu> I get it
[0:32] <tttuuu> Thanks!
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[0:33] <TheLostAdmin> tttuuu, good. I do hope you have fun with your Pi and your projects.
[0:33] <tttuuu> TheLostAdmin! Thanks!
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[0:48] <tttuuu> hi
[0:48] <ozzzy> howdy
[0:48] <tttuuu> I can't delete anything because there is no space left on device
[0:49] <tttuuu> I cant use "rm" I can't move things into the wastebasket
[0:49] <tttuuu> I can't find a solution online either
[0:49] <CoJaBo> run it as root
[0:50] <ozzzy> moving things into the wastebasket takes space
[0:50] <ozzzy> rm shouldn't
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[0:50] <tttuuu> CoJaBo thank you. It worked. But how?
[0:51] <tttuuu> I guess the question is, CoJaBo, but why?
[0:51] <CoJaBo> Some of the partition space is reserved for root
[0:52] <tttuuu> ah. What if I can't have root
[0:52] <tttuuu> what would I do then?
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[0:54] <Jabo> put the SD card in another machine and delete files from there
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[0:56] <ozzzy> tttuuu, don't let your FS get so full
[0:57] <tttuuu> I was trying to extract something and it got full
[0:57] <tttuuu> I didn't know
[0:57] <ozzzy> oh... it happens
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[0:59] <steve_rox> rpi cpu temp reads 72'c wonder if i should worry
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[1:00] <ozzzy> steve_rox, not until it starts to throttle
[1:00] <steve_rox> what temp will it do that at?
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[1:00] <steve_rox> i was punishing it with quake :-)
[1:00] <ozzzy> I've heard the 85C number bandied about... but I don't know
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[1:01] <pr0tlogic> Hi everyone, I am having trouble with openelec on an older tv I get no signal, but on my newer tv it works fine, does anyone know of a solution I tried adding these values to /flash/config.txt, but it did not help; hdmi_drive=2, hdmi_force_hotplug=1, and disable_overscan=1
[1:01] <pr0tlogic> i also tried hdmi_safe=1, and config_hdmi_boost=7, but still a no go
[1:02] <steve_rox> think this 5v amp board i added has reduced my overall power , fun
[1:03] <steve_rox> i had issues on older tvs too such as black and white video
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[1:08] <Froolap> pr0tlogic: does the tv have an info button that will display the resolution of the vider source?
[1:08] <Froolap> err video source
[1:08] <pr0tlogic> no :(
[1:09] <Froolap> If it was me, I think i would try a different cable and maybe a different port on the tv.....
[1:10] <Froolap> I have seen where a cable works with one tv but doesn't with another using the same pi. change of cable made a world of difference
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[1:11] <Froolap> also it's important to power on the tv before you boot the pi
[1:11] <pr0tlogic> its not the cable
[1:11] <pr0tlogic> its the tv for sure, I tested
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[1:13] <pr0tlogic> but I do know the tv can only do 720p and if anything above it will do no signal
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[1:14] <Froolap> time to look at craig's list
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[1:16] <l_r> any news?
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[1:17] <abnormal> yes, in the newspaper
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[1:17] <l_r> i meant from the rpi2 world
[1:18] <l_r> (rp1 is obsolete now)
[1:18] <ozzzy> nothing is ever obsolete if it does the job it was acquired to do
[1:18] <abnormal> well, I still have all the old pi's... and love them...
[1:19] <l_r> all? how many
[1:19] <abnormal> 5
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[1:19] <l_r> wow...what for
[1:19] <Froolap> 3
[1:19] <ozzzy> 2
[1:19] <Froolap> hut hut hike
[1:19] <methuzla> 8
[1:19] <abnormal> toys, play with them and Uno and Quickstarts hooked to them
[1:19] <l_r> 8???
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[1:20] <abnormal> of course
[1:20] <abnormal> many of us have like hundreds of them
[1:20] <TheLostAdmin> 2
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[1:21] <abnormal> I also have a BBB
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[1:22] <ozzzy> better business bureau?
[1:23] <Froolap> beagle bone black
[1:23] <ozzzy> ahh
[1:24] <fred1807> how do I compile this sht ? psmpc
[1:24] <fred1807> https://github.com/amrhassan/psmpc
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[1:26] <karlton> does the rpi2 support a free bootloader like u-boot?
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[1:29] <methuzla> fred1807 appears to written in go
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[1:30] <ozzzy> karlton, what advantage would that bring?
[1:32] <karlton> ozzzy: to not have to rely on a non-free one
[1:33] <ozzzy> is there a problem with the non-free one?
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[1:35] <karlton> you can't learn anything from it unless you painfully reverse-engineer it
[1:38] <ozzzy> I suppose that learning has merit
[1:39] <Bilby> You can learn more here: https://github.com/dwelch67/raspberrypi
[1:39] <charlie_sanders> non free doesn't mean closed source
[1:39] * ozzzy lives by the IIABDFI rule
[1:39] <shiftplusone> karlton: yes an no.
[1:40] <Bilby> charlie_sanders very true
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[1:40] <shiftplusone> you can use u-boot, but you're still relying on the firmware to load u-boot.
[1:40] <Bilby> the bootload process really just gets the chips ready to communicate with -anything-, including the RAM.
[1:41] <shiftplusone> so... it's an exercise in redundancy exercise.
[1:41] <Bilby> Only if you like exersizing while you work out
[1:42] <Bilby> I've seen some interesting bare metal tutorials for programming on the Pi but oy, they look labor intensive for very minimal results
[1:43] <ozzzy> there is always a problem with diminishing returns
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[1:46] <karlton> shiftplusone: right, so then not much has changed for non-free firmware loading?
[1:47] <shiftplusone> There's enough information out there, nobody able and willing to do the work.
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[1:48] <shiftplusone> I think that anybody with the technical knowledge to do anything about it understands that there more useful things to do.
[1:48] <Bilby> that github link i posted has a lot of information
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[1:49] <Bilby> There's just not much to do unless you're planning on cloning the chips *shrug*
[1:49] <shiftplusone> Hm? Not sure where cloning chips comes in.
[1:50] <Bilby> That's the only thing I can think of useful about workign at that level, if you're building knockoffs and need to modify the code
[1:50] <Bilby> But I Am Not A Bare Metal Programmer
[1:51] <Bilby> really, I Am Not A Bear Metal Programmer either, but if a grizzley into pantera wanted to code with me, I'd be chill
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[1:51] <shiftplusone> >_<
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[1:53] <shiftplusone> But nuh, if you can get your hands on the chip, you can abuse the current firmware to make it run whatever you want. The reasons people want open firmware can be either practical or ideological. The practical reasons have legal concerns, so it can't happen. The ideological reasons aren't grounded in reality.
[1:54] <shiftplusone> Having said that, I'm all for it. If I wasn't working where I am, I'd probably be seeing how far I can get with it as well. Mostly to satisfy my own curiosity than anything else though.
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[1:55] <plugwash> I guess you signed a NDA for videocore stuff at some point?
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[1:55] <Bilby> Nothing wrong with curiosity, or with hacking towards those ends
[1:55] * Bilby keeps forgetting shiftplusone is One Of Them
[1:56] <shiftplusone> plugwash: nuh, no NDAs. Hell I'm not really under any contract right now.
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[1:58] <Bilby> but there are still some things you don't do based on where you work
[1:58] <Bilby> like I don't do any financial work in my own time because i work for a large financial institution
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[1:59] * plugwash thought you did a (never released) hdmi input board
[1:59] <plugwash> and assumed you had to sign a videocore NDA to get the GPU access needed to make that work
[2:00] <plugwash> am I confusing you with someone else? did someone else do the firmware bits?
[2:00] <shiftplusone> plugwash: nope, that wasn't me. Although I do have access to the docs and firmware, it's just trust based.
[2:02] <ali1234> what are those more useful things you refer to?
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[2:04] <ali1234> karlton: the current situation is that the vc instruction set has been mostly reverse engineered and there's a "hello world" bootcode.bin, but virtually no actual hardware support
[2:05] <shiftplusone> ali1234: upstreaming, documenting, writing new/better interfaces and so on. Maybe reimplementing the blob will be a lot more interesting once the stuff anholt is replacing is stripped out.
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[2:06] <plugwash> I know at one stage eben was talking about trying to get more of the videocore opened
[2:06] <plugwash> presumablly he hasn't made much progress :(
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[2:07] <shiftplusone> plugwash: that was going ahead when I started here, yeah. There was stuff in the pipeline for release, but I guess it's not the top priority right now and would require a fair bit of effort getting past the red tape and all that.
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[4:00] <benighted> is Android compatible with PI?
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[4:04] <TheLostAdmin> Not that i'm aware of but I think there is effort being made in that direction.
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[4:07] <kisak> http://androidpi.wikia.com/wiki/Android_Pi_Wiki <- yes, but not well
[4:07] <TheLostAdmin> Oh, I guess they have advanced since I last looked at it.
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[4:15] <plugwash> AIUI the problem is noone has got 3D acceleration working in a publicaly released andriod Pi build
[4:15] <plugwash> and without 3D accelieration andriod kinda sucks
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[4:20] <TheLostAdmin> I've got an Android phone and I'm pretty sure it would still suck if it had 3D acceleration.
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[4:33] <mchelen> the point is that all android phones do have 3d accel
[4:33] <mchelen> its used for the basic ui
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[5:54] <Froolap> mumble
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[6:55] <NedScott> hmm
[6:55] <NedScott> anyone good with making buttons?
[6:55] <NedScott> I've got this replacement gameboy case that has the rubber part, but nothing else. I should have just gotten a broken gameboy.
[6:56] <NedScott> I might just try one of these DIY PCB etching guides and then mark some conductive material on the rubber of the button
[6:57] <NedScott> since it's a tight space already and I don't want to put a full button behind there
[6:58] <NedScott> the funny part is that I'm basically replicating what some other guy did, and he posted a full guide on it, but his site has been down for the last month
[6:58] <NedScott> and web.archive.org has nothing on it
[6:58] <NedScott> haha
[6:59] <SirLagz> just get a couple of bare wire ends and sticky tape one end to button and one end to plastic under it :P
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[7:00] <NedScott> I thought about just doing something like that, but I don't think it will stand up to a lot of button presses
[7:00] <SirLagz> hot glue it, tin the ends, and that will be fine as long as the wires don't move
[7:05] <NedScott> I could probably use something like this http://amzn.com/B00G3EHATG
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[7:05] <NedScott> then just use a conductive marker on the rubber
[7:05] <NedScott> and changes are it would line up where I needed it too
[7:06] <NedScott> and I could add the two more buttons I want to add :)
[7:07] <NedScott> slightly unrelated, it's too bad I can't just cut off the ports of a Pi2
[7:07] <NedScott> I could then fit it in this case
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[7:41] <Froolap> NedScott: depends on how you want to do things, but you could get a thin sheet of plastic and slide it between two contacts to make your switch. look at how a musical birthday card works.
[7:42] <Froolap> remove the plastic (open card) music on. replace the plastic (close the card) silence.
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[8:10] <knightwise> morning
[8:10] <shiftplusone> hello sir
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[8:18] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: hai
[8:19] <shiftplusone> SirLagz: hey
[8:20] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: hows it going?
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[8:20] <shiftplusone> Can't complain
[8:22] <shiftplusone> How are things back home?
[8:22] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: you in Melbourne was it ?
[8:22] <shiftplusone> Cambridge
[8:22] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: ah still in the UK
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[8:22] <shiftplusone> (but from Melbourne, yeah.)
[8:22] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: going back to melbourne anytime soon ?
[8:22] <shiftplusone> Nuh, probably just for christmas
[8:23] <SirLagz> ah cool
[8:23] <SirLagz> hows the weather in Cambridge ?
[8:23] <shiftplusone> Nice try, I'm not that British yet.
[8:23] <SirLagz> haha
[8:23] <SirLagz> did you relocate to Cambridge ?
[8:24] <shiftplusone> pretty much, yeah.
[8:24] <SirLagz> cool
[8:24] <shiftplusone> Still feels weird, since I don't see myself staying here long term, but... that seems to be what's happening.
[8:24] <SirLagz> how long you been there now ?
[8:24] <SirLagz> and why'd you relocate ?
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[8:25] <shiftplusone> will be a year in a few months. And of course for work.
[8:26] <SirLagz> ah k
[8:26] <SirLagz> cool
[8:26] <SirLagz> you get headhunted to fly over there or something ?
[8:26] <shiftplusone> Nope, fired off an email asking for my dream job and bam... here I am.
[8:26] <SirLagz> wow. Nice.
[8:26] <SirLagz> Good work
[8:27] <shiftplusone> dumb luck really, but yeah >.>
[8:27] <SirLagz> wouldn't be there if you didn't work for it :D
[8:28] <shiftplusone> impostor syndrome is fun >.>
[8:28] <SirLagz> haha
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[8:31] <shiftplusone> Just need to convince them to relocate the office to Melbourne, and I'm set.
[8:31] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: what do you work as now ?
[8:31] <SirLagz> heh
[8:32] <shiftplusone> Engineer... I think.
[8:32] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: haha
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[9:22] <qlex> maybe a dumb question, but is it safe to delete /var/cache on my Raspi ?
[9:24] <ShorTie> don't know if i'd do all that
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[9:25] <qlex> i have a setup, where only vpn client and btsync are installed (whereas btsync uses NAS to store files), so im amazed that my 4gb sd card is 100% full, with over 300mb is var/cach
[9:26] <ShorTie> try 'apt-get clean'
[9:27] <qlex> did that and went from 100% to 97% :)
[9:27] <qlex> cleaned also /var/log
[9:28] <qlex> there' also 250MiB in /usr/share/icons and im not using gui at all (just ssh)
[9:28] <qlex> but i guess i cant really delete that
[9:28] <qlex> i would of course replace 4gb with 8gb if only i was closer to this Rpi now :)
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[10:16] <qlex> i managed to clean some more space, and replaced btsync with the 2.0 version
[10:16] <qlex> which doesnt start now, any idea ? i stopped the service, replaced the bin file and restarted
[10:17] <qlex> btsync is root/root now - should it be pi/www-data ?
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[11:21] <SpeedEvil> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1372954669/e-paper-display-hat-for-the-raspberry-pi
[11:22] <SpeedEvil> Though it's probably been mentioned before.
[11:22] <robhol> "Hat", lol
[11:22] <SpeedEvil> The lack of power saving on the Pi blunts the point for low power apps.
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[11:27] <qwyos> Hello. How would one go about compiling drivers and kernels for Raspberry Pi using an emulator? Is QEMU running versatilepb mach capable of correctly building things for the Raspberry Pi?
[11:28] <shiftplusone> why use an emulator?
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[11:28] <shiftplusone> the kernel is trivial to cross-compile
[11:28] <SpeedEvil> Or just buy a pi
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[11:29] <grammoboy> hm I've flashed my micro sd, but it seems empty
[11:29] <SpeedEvil> Oh - to compile drivers and kernels - buy two.
[11:29] <qwyos> I have a Pi but I don't want to set it up every time just to test if a given driver works on it. How to cross-compile kernel modules for Pi then?
[11:29] <shiftplusone> 'seems'? how has that been determined?
[11:30] <shiftplusone> qwyos: ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=foo make bar
[11:30] <qwyos> shiftplusone: what about kernel headers and such?
[11:31] <shiftplusone> the kernel source is where the headers come from in the first place
[11:31] <RaTTuS|BIG> site down we're all going to die
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[11:39] <ruffyen> soooooo i cant find anything online about this server maintenance
[11:39] <ruffyen> any idea when it will be over?
[11:40] <SpeedEvil> When it's over.
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[11:40] <ruffyen> heh
[11:40] <DexterF> hi
[11:41] <DexterF> need a linux dist for Pi with a fairly recent kernel that is ready to compile kernel modules. raspbian is sort of strange here. can someone recommend one?
[11:41] <Xark> Its over...
[11:41] <SpeedEvil> Xark: that doesn't mean you have to stop panicking though!
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[11:41] <DexterF> target: have linuxtv DVB modules and tvheadend, stream DVB to network
[11:41] <ruffyen> Xark: woop
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[11:42] * Xark puts on his peril sensitive sunglasses and hugs his towel...
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[11:47] <ruffyen> well off to download raspbian
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[11:53] <luxpir> about Kodi: i've installed from raspbian repos, now is it possible to exit back to raspbian, or to run kodi on top of a running raspian?
[11:53] <luxpir> I keep seeing references to -standalone options and 'run as application' but that doesn't seem to be default behaviour. I basically want to keep my backups and IRC/IM stuff running underneath Kodi.
[11:54] <luxpir> (I can't find a chroot option, either)
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[11:58] <DexterF> how is "armhf" different from non-armhf?
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[12:02] <ShorTie> DexterF, https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=49970&p=388379
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[12:09] <shiftplusone> Gadgetoid: are you there yet?
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[12:45] <ruffyen> would i be correct in assuming that if i choose composite video during NOOBS install
[12:45] <ruffyen> that my raspi will only output over composite?
[12:45] <ruffyen> or can i still use hdmi
[12:46] <ruffyen> i plan to make this pi mobile and will not always know what output i will be able to use while testing
[12:46] <ruffyen> at some places i have HDMI
[12:46] <ruffyen> and others i have analog
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[12:58] <DexterF> ShorTie: ah, thanks. very clear now.
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[13:32] <KapitanF> the best ide for python on linux
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[13:33] <shiftplusone> anything with syntax highlighting.
[13:33] <shiftplusone> but the best ide for everything ever is always geany.
[13:33] <Armand> I thought "whichever suits your needs" would be the best answer. ;)
[13:33] <shiftplusone> python people like 'charm' and such, but meh.
[13:33] <KapitanF> thanks pycharm and geany
[13:34] <ruffyen> i like pycharm
[13:34] <ruffyen> but i tend to default to emacs
[13:34] <ruffyen> but my emacs setup isnt a full featured ide tool kit
[13:34] <ruffyen> pycharm is
[13:34] <ruffyen> and its FOR python :)
[13:37] <knob> Good morning all! =)
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[14:07] <Brutussss> is there any issue known with using a Kingston UHS-I U3 32GB
[14:07] <Brutussss> Would like to use that, it's a very fast card
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[14:08] <kisak> you're not going to get the faster speed, but it should work
[14:08] <Brutussss> I'm not?
[14:08] <Brutussss> got a pi2
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[14:10] <Brutussss> Thought they would have changed that to newer specs as well
[14:10] <kisak> my understanding is the microsd slot in the pi is ~class 10, microsd cards are made to be backwards compatible, so faster cards can still be used
[14:10] <Brutussss> yeah ok but I don't have a card at this moment
[14:10] <Brutussss> Do you know the speed limit by any chance?
[14:10] <kisak> I do not
[14:11] <Brutussss> Ok thanks
[14:11] <kisak> the only spec you should care about on these cards is the random read/write speed
[14:11] <Brutussss> IOP?
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[14:14] <Brutussss> that would be the samsung evo which is even cheaper
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[14:14] <Brutussss> works for me thanks :)
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[14:19] <kisak> got a 64 gb samsung evo last sunday for ~$24
[14:20] <kisak> I'm still getting it setup
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[14:34] <knob> kisak, great price... where did you get it at?
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[14:35] <kisak> amazon(US) price matched BestBuy
[14:35] <knob> ahh... nice.
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[14:52] <virgomoon> I need some help finding info for which my Google-fu is evidently too weak. I would like to write a custom in-house network monitor. Currently, all I'm finding are real-time monitors and I have a number of other features planned that aren't in any packages I can find so I'll need to write my own. I have little experience working with *nix networking on a programming level. What I need is the ability to capture network traffic by mac address. Th
[14:52] <virgomoon> is is a simple network consisting of the satellite modem, raspberry working as wireless router, and the connected devices. It doesn't seem the various /proc/net hooks have traffic info broken down any more than by interface. Are traffic statistics kept elsewhere? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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[14:57] <SpeedEvil> You would not typically ahve access to them
[14:57] <SpeedEvil> Network switches/routers don't work like that
[14:58] <SpeedEvil> err - nvm
[14:58] <virgomoon> ya .. trying to BE the router
[14:58] <virgomoon> that part's working fine .. now I'm down to monitoring what's gone/going through the various pipes
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[15:07] <virgomoon> OO .. packet sniffing .. is that what I'm looking for?
[15:07] <Froolap> they don't smell good, kind of like cheese
[15:07] <virgomoon> I'm seeing that, lol
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[15:11] <Froolap> if you can monitor in real time then why not pipe to a log file?
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[15:13] <virgomoon> that's likely where this is going but I'm just not clear on how to get to the realtime monitoring but I just found some info on writing a packet sniffer
[15:13] <virgomoon> I kept searching "network monitor" or some such which what only giving packages that did that but I need to write my own .. I think packet sniffing is what I should have been looking for
[15:14] <mchelen> virgomoon: what are you trying to do exactly?
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[15:15] <mchelen> for packet capture try wireshark or tcpdump
[15:16] <virgomoon> I need to monitor throughput of network traffic by mac address but not to view in real time as most packages do. I need to log the total throughput and perform various actions based on how much traffic has gone through to/from each mac address
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[15:17] <virgomoon> we're on satellite internet with limited throughput volume so I need to monitor/limit throughput by device (mac address)
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[15:17] <mchelen> virgomoon: well iftop shows total throughput right?
[15:18] <mchelen> so you can use watch & grep to save that to a log if you want
[15:18] <mchelen> http://serverfault.com/a/662442
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[15:20] <virgomoon> iftop does but it runs as text full screen .. can that output just be captured with grep?
[15:20] <mchelen> yeah that is what grep is for
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[15:21] <mchelen> also you can redirect the output to a file instead of the screen
[15:21] <virgomoon> ahh .. that's where I was going .. let me look for that option
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[15:39] <hubik> hi, i've got a pi B, mmcqd is using all the processor and 0 ram
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[15:40] <jer> while(1); =D
[15:40] <jer> kill it friendly first; kill -HUP its_pid
[15:40] <hubik> oh up til now top was still running
[15:41] <hubik> and i could switch screen in gnuscreen but not do anything
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[15:42] <hubik> now it's just gone,
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[16:05] <Brutussss> would heatsinks be advised for the 2? if so, can i use the ones from the normal b?
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[16:21] <knob> Brutussss, almost everybody loves heatsinks... and there is great temptation in using them. Yet they are not needed, and I doubt they are advised.
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[16:23] <McBride36> they aren't
[16:23] <kisak> the rpi2 will throttle down if it hits 85C
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[16:25] <knob> Good to know... didn't know that previosuly.
[16:25] <mortal> well
[16:25] <mortal> I got 1 GHz stable with a heatsink
[16:25] <mortal> otherwise unstable
[16:26] <McBride36> heat sinks add +2 cool points though
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[16:27] <hubik> i'm so cool i don't need a heatsink ;)
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[16:29] <kisak> I got Raspbian/Retropie to be stable @1GHz, but OSMC was unstable above 900MHz
[16:29] <kisak> all those -O3 built packages are highstrung
[16:30] <Bilby> that's why I submerge all of my raspberry pi's in used motor oil to keep them cool
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[16:37] <karlton> not sure if -O3 would work well on the rpi
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[16:39] <kisak> systemwide, -O3 is a very bad idea, it's just the osmc-specific packets that the dev has chosen in this case
[16:39] <kisak> meh ... packages
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[17:13] <Froolap> blink
[17:20] * Bilby turns on
[17:20] * Bilby turns off
[17:20] * Bilby turns on
[17:20] * Bilby turns off
[17:20] * Bilby turns on
[17:20] * Bilby turns off
[17:20] <Bilby> ... *sigh*
[17:20] * Bilby turns on
[17:20] * Bilby turns off
[17:20] * Bilby turns on
[17:20] * Bilby turns off
[17:20] * Bilby turns on
[17:21] * Bilby turns on again, just for laffs
[17:21] * Bilby turns off, drops out, and goes to hang with the bad kids
[17:23] * Armand plays a Genesis song for Bilby
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[17:28] <Bilby> Eww, "Invisible Touch"
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[17:34] <Armand> Bilby: "Turn It On Again" �_�
[17:35] <Froolap> =_=
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[17:35] <mun> hi
[17:35] <Bilby> Oooooooooh snap Armand you got me
[17:35] <Armand> Huuuurr. ^_^
[17:35] <mun> in this video, this guy plays sample files with his speaker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRgJFboLLAI
[17:36] <mun> but how come there're so many wires? couldn't it just be plugged to the audio jack?
[17:38] <Bilby> mun that guy has way more than just a speaker going on
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[17:40] <mun> hmm ok
[17:41] <Bilby> On top of the pi he has what looks like the adafruit LCD display HAT, then he has a rheostat attached to it and (possibly) a small amplifier circuit. white wire runs out of analog out, to rheostat, then to speaker
[17:41] <Froolap> that's a show off video not a how I did it video. This is what I did, and you can too if you can ever figure out what I did. ha ha....
[17:41] <Bilby> that guy also has a weird midlands (?) accent
[17:42] <Bilby> Froolap i'm assuming that's a follow up to a post or video(s) elsewhere explaining more since he's referring to things he ddi before
[17:42] <Bilby> but yeah
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[17:42] <mun> do PC speakers work on a rpi?
[17:42] <McBride36> i don't see why not
[17:42] <Bilby> amplified ones work fine. non-amplified ones might if they're very small
[17:43] <mun> small?
[17:43] <McBride36> tiny
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[17:43] <Froolap> itsy bitsy
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[17:43] <mun> but why should size matter?
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[17:43] <McBride36> like piezo level
[17:43] <McBride36> because power
[17:43] <mun> oh
[17:43] <Froolap> because bigger = more power to run the electromagnet that drives the speaker.
[17:44] <McBride36> wubwubwub
[17:45] <mun> hmm on a model b+, could a speaker line in be plugged into the 3.5mm jack?
[17:45] <mun> or does it have to be a composite video?
[17:45] <Froolap> if you have the right plug
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[17:46] <mun> well, it plugs in fine, but for some reason there's no playback...
[17:46] <mun> i just wonder if i'm doing it right
[17:46] <mun> since it's an AV port, so i wonder whether an audio line in could go into it
[17:47] <Froolap> just because it fits doesn't mean it has the right connectors.... in the right order.... lined up properly... etc
[17:48] <mun> Froolap: what do you mean by the right order?
[17:48] <Bilby> *hypotheitcally* that port style is designed so a standard audio jack will hit the right pins
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[17:48] <Bilby> what do you have plugged into it that you're trying to get sound out of?
[17:48] <Froolap> Lets see, is it left-right,video-ground or is it ground-video-left-right?
[17:48] <Bilby> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[17:48] * Bilby runs from the Dropbear
[17:49] <mun> Bilby: the line in of a PC speaker
[17:50] <karlton> the average 3.5mm cord should work for audio
[17:50] <Bilby> Froolap, the answer is, it depends
[17:50] <karlton> just make sure your sound driver is loaded and working
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[17:50] <Bilby> also i just found this blog lol http://www.cablechick.com.au/blog/understanding-trrs-and-audio-jacks/
[17:51] <mun> hmm
[17:51] <Bilby> but yes, the raspi 1/8" jack is designed to be compatible with a standard TRS plug for audio
[17:51] <Bilby> good lords this website is hilarious
[17:52] <karlton> typing "alsamixer" is a good way to check volume levels and see your sound driver
[17:53] <ShorTie> Froolap, http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2014/07/raspberry-pi-model-b-3-5mm-audiovideo-jack/
[17:53] <Bilby> I believe the vague mobile device standard is T - Left, R1 - Right, R2 - Ground, R3 - Video / Mic
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[17:53] <Bilby> ShorTie good find
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[17:55] <twistedtruth> I'm looking for a python version of the C softPwm library
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[17:57] <McBride36> RPIO
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[17:59] <twistedtruth> where do i find RPIO? for standard PWM im using RPi.GPIO but theres only one PWM pin on the Pi2 (BCM 18) but for an RGB led I need 3 PWM pins so i need a softPwm solution. Is that RPIO what im looking for? and where do I find it on raspbian
[18:00] <Bilby> apt-get install rpio ?
[18:00] <McBride36> Bilby, pip
[18:00] <McBride36> it's a python library
[18:00] <Bilby> yep, look like pip
[18:01] <Bilby> twistedtruth, https://pythonhosted.org/RPIO/
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[18:01] <McBride36> twistedtruth, https://pythonhosted.org/RPIO/#installation
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[18:03] <twistedtruth> thanks this looks like it could be what im looking for
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[18:17] <Froolap> ShorTie: Cables are readily available but they don�t all follow the same standard so you need to be careful That's what I was trying to point out. It isn't really a standard unless everybody follows it and they don't seem to.
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[18:18] <Froolap> so just because it fits does bnot mean that it works
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[18:35] <Bilby> Froolap, that's what she said?
[18:35] <ozzzy> she said that... that's what she said
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[19:15] <McBride36> mfw people don't put things away properly and ask me to fix three wires
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[19:37] <kode7> I'm getting started with the typical RPi + LED setup. I've done this so far: https://i.imgur.com/hbdJTOI.jpg I'm probably missing something obvious as I'm really learning from scratch but well, the LED won't light up, any suggestion?
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[19:40] <Froolap> it doesn't look like the positive is on the same rail as the led
[19:41] <kode7> I can confirm it is
[19:43] <Froolap> I've never messed with the gpio
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[20:00] <Bilby> kode7 you have it just into the 3V3 pin? the LED should be lit any time power is on. do you have your anode / cathode swapped? if you plug the LED into the power rail does the LED light up?
[20:00] <Bilby> also your photography is fa-hancy
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[20:01] <McBride36> do GPIO turn on when the pi is on? or when something is accessing them directly
[20:02] <kode7> yes it's in pin 1 (so 3V3), anode/cathode are in right positions and not sure how do I do that, just plug the led into the power rail without any resistor at all?
[20:02] <kode7> not sure how to check if GPIO is on but as far as I know as soon as I plug the rpi current should go through
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[20:03] <McBride36> do you have a multimeter
[20:04] <kode7> unfortunately no
[20:04] <McBride36> you can use your tongue
[20:04] <kode7> another angle https://i.imgur.com/dLf2v3q.jpg
[20:04] <McBride36> (not really)
[20:04] <McBride36> okay
[20:05] <McBride36> bear with me here, but are you sure the cobbler is connected correctly?
[20:05] <McBride36> on the pi side
[20:05] <kode7> looks like
[20:06] <kode7> I realize there can be tons of reasons for this not working but if you think that the circuit is ok then I can try to figure out what else could be failing
[20:06] <McBride36> and long leg to the power?
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[20:06] <McBride36> long leg of the LED to the power*
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[20:06] <McBride36> the circuit looks fine
[20:06] <kode7> yep
[20:08] <pksato> kode7: flat cable or connection on rpi is not inverted?
[20:08] <McBride36> pksato, asked that, apparently it looks like it's correct
[20:08] <kode7> the cable was inverted on the rpi side
[20:08] <McBride36> ah
[20:08] <kode7> just tested
[20:08] <McBride36> there we go then!
[20:08] <kode7> I feel so dumb heh
[20:08] <McBride36> it's happened to me which is why i asked
[20:09] <pksato> this header need a notch pin. );
[20:09] <kode7> you guys are nice and helpful so thank you very much
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[20:10] <McBride36> anytime! feel free to ask any other questions
[20:10] <McBride36> but keep up the photography
[20:10] <kode7> I do my best :D
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[20:12] <kode7> what I don't like much is that I have to use a breakout board atm because it takes some good space
[20:13] <McBride36> the cobbler?
[20:13] <McBride36> or the breadboard itself?
[20:13] <pksato> need more breadboards. :)
[20:14] <McBride36> or just bigger ones ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[20:14] <kode7> yeah the cobbler
[20:15] <kode7> maybe I just need to buy a bigger one when I get past the basics
[20:15] <McBride36> any projects you have in mind or are you just learning?
[20:17] <kode7> just wanted to learn a bit more about electronics, I'm a programmer myself but I'm absolutely useless with electronics so I thought this could be an easy start
[20:17] <pksato> no one mass produced a standard (connector and isolated roles) PCB to use with a rpi?
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[20:19] <pksato> like this for arduino http://www.dx.com/p/arduino-prototyping-shield-pcb-board-blue-138294#.VTk3leS4Vpg
[20:21] <McBride36> pksato, it's just easier to prototype on a breadboard
[20:22] <McBride36> and kode7 the pi and arduinos are great places to start
[20:22] <McBride36> i can also recommend getting started in electronics by forest mimms
[20:22] <McBride36> great introductory book
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[20:23] <kode7> oh wow, that looks really nice
[20:24] <pksato> on some time prototype need to transferd to final board.
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[20:27] <pksato> and making a pcb is a _tedius_ proccess. Or expensive for few industrialized boards.
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[20:28] <McBride36> some companies do custom jobs for a fair price
[20:28] <McBride36> if you need like ~5 boards
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[20:31] <pksato> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Prototyping-Pi-Plate-Kit-PCB-Breakout-For-Raspberry-Pi-/171325043243?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item27e3c4b22b
[20:32] <kode7> how is that better/worse than a breadboard if I may ask
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[20:35] <pksato> http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-3-3-5V-Raspberry-Pi-Expansion-Project-Board-Prototyping-Module-PCB-Board-/231326445078?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35dc216e16
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[20:37] <pksato> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Raspberry-PI-B-A-GPIO-Prototype-PCB-Self-Build-Special-Offer-UK-Seller-/181720915251?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2a4f691d33
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[20:38] <pksato> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Raspberry-Pi-PCB-prototype-board-with-IO-monitoring-LED-and-DIP-switches-DIY-kit-/251895595736?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3aa625c2d8
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[20:58] <yggdrasil> hi, is there a # for scratch?
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[20:58] <yggdrasil> working on getting scratch 2 installed.. its .. not open source.
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[21:10] <Xark> yggdrasil: Hmm http://www.i-programmer.info/news/136-open-source/7325-scratch-20-open-sourced.html and https://github.com/LLK/scratch-flash (but maybe there is still a closed version...)
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[21:14] <yggdrasil> ahh ye thats better
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[21:14] <yggdrasil> thanks Xark
[21:14] <Xark> NP (thank Google). :)
[21:15] <yggdrasil> still thought not a smart thing for them to do it that way in the first place.
[21:15] <yggdrasil> i just decided to use the online version for now.
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[21:17] <Xark> Okay. It did seem odd (that is why I Googled it).
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[21:23] <fred1807> can I have sound output to both hdmi and sterojob, at the same time, system wide?
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[21:25] <Xark> fred1807: There is a "both" option in rpi-config, IIRC...
[21:25] <fred1807> nice
[21:26] <fred1807> I will have raspberry in kioski mode, to showcast a webpage with audio stream, but I am not sure if my friend who will receive it have sound on tv or will conect a cable on it, and it is supossed to be automatic, he is not a techguy, so both is better
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[21:47] <johnnybitcoin> hello
[21:48] <johnnybitcoin> is there a 5 GHz wifi adapter that will work with the pi?
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[21:51] <kode7> johnnybitcoin just got my rpi today with a n adapter so I guess there is
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[21:54] <Aichan> Hello, is there someone with a Raspberry Pi older than B+ willing to help me test a C# GPIO lib?
[21:54] <Aichan> (A Rev1 would be perfect)
[21:56] <Aichan> All you need is an old Pi, maybe a Windows computer and some time :)
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[22:45] <ball> I love my Raspberry Pi.
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[22:53] <Bilby> ball, duly noted ;)
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[22:54] <ball> Bilby: I'm running NetBSD on it. I was going to test Wake-on-LAN but I can't get it to power off.
[22:54] <ball> ...I'm running pre-release software though, so that's fair enough.
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[22:56] <Bilby> the Pi doesn't support WOL, there is no lower "low power state" for it to go into
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[22:56] <Bilby> nor is the power supply section soft-power capable :)
[22:57] * ball grins
[22:57] <ball> Bilby: That'll be why it doesn't power down then.
[22:57] <Bilby> hahaha
[22:57] <Bilby> yeah
[22:57] <OffensiveUser> a pi pulls less than an amp usually right
[22:57] <Bilby> but don't worry- the Pi uses about as much power as a powered-down computer ;)
[22:58] <Bilby> OffensiveUser, a Pi pulls 3-7 watts depending on state
[22:58] <ball> Bilby: I was thinking more in terms of staggered power-up of Pi clusters.
[22:58] <ball> Probably a non-issue, anyway.
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[23:00] <Bilby> pretty much
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[23:00] <Bilby> if you want to stagger power up, run the power supplies through relays ;)
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[23:00] <ball> Bilby: I like relays, me.
[23:01] <Bilby> OffensiveUser, for reference that 3-7 watts is 0.02 - 0.06 amps @ 110vac
[23:01] <Bilby> hehe :D
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[23:02] <OffensiveUser> Bilby, cool
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[23:03] <Bilby> I'm running a relay off of a r̶a̶s̶p̶b̶e̶r̶r̶y̶ ̶p̶i̶ a̶r̶d̶u̶i̶n̶o̶ ESP8266
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[23:16] <mun> Bilby: is the ESP8266 stable?
[23:17] <Bilby> I've had pretty good luck with it but haven't had it production-like use yet, just testing still
[23:17] <Bilby> once I get my box of joy from Mouser on Monday I will be building a circuit to put it in, hopefully in a week or so it'll be doing work
[23:17] <mun> good stuff
[23:18] <mun> what work is that?
[23:19] <Bilby> opening a garage door mainly haha
[23:19] <McBride36> you got that working?
[23:19] <McBride36> what was the fix to the inital high or low?
[23:19] <mun> good stuff
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[23:20] <Bilby> *cough* I just put a second relay trigger in on boot
[23:20] <Bilby> frankly it shouldn't happen often - even in the severe storms we've been having the power has been stable - but i'm not proud of it, yeah
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[23:20] <McBride36> simple solutions = best solutions
[23:21] <Bilby> Yep for an edge case solution I'm not worred
[23:21] <Bilby> ... assuming the ESP doesn't crash and reboot at random XD
[23:22] <Bilby> I work almost above the garage so i can hear the door, if I hear it triggering a lot i'll have to do somethign about it. It also made me add a door sensor
[23:22] <Bilby> I found a leaf switch that fits perfectly at the head of the door; even better, I have it set up so if the door is even slightly open it reads as "open"
[23:22] <mun> Bilby: does it often crash?
[23:23] <Bilby> I haven't noticed it crashing at all as long as there's enough current
[23:23] <mun> right
[23:23] <Bilby> I need to hook it back up to serial and check a few thigns though, the last time i assembled the breadboard i couldn't get it to boot properly
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[23:34] <mun> Bilby are you using a module or building from the chipset?
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[23:35] <Bilby> I'm using the ESP8266-01 module
[23:35] <Bilby> I'm no SMD whiz
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[23:38] <mun> I see
[23:38] <mun> My 12 should be arriving soon
[23:39] <Bilby> I should have bought one with more GPIO exposed but I didn't expect I'd want to use it that way
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[23:41] <mun> Bilby how many does your one have?
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[23:42] <Bilby> Just 2
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[23:44] <mun> Right. 0 and 2
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[23:44] <mun> Bilby so why do you need more in your setup?
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[23:46] <Bilby> I don't but it would be nice to :) in this case I originally had one being used as a status LED, i repurposed it as an input for the door sensor
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[23:47] <mebus> Hi! I forgot the root password for my Pi. What can I do?
[23:48] <mun> I see
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[23:48] <ball> mebus: re-image it?
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[23:48] <Bilby> sudo passwd from a sudo-enabled regular user?
[23:48] <Bilby> or standard root recovery procedures for linxu
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[23:49] <mebus> no, the problem is also that it does not boot, because the file system is broken
[23:49] <mebus> and I do not want to re-image it
[23:49] <ball> mebus: Re-image it?
[23:49] <mebus> no
[23:49] <ball> Oh.
[23:49] * ball waves a paw.
[23:49] <mebus> I fixed the filesystem on my pc, but every time I boot it up, it breaks again
[23:49] <ball> If the filesystem's broken, that would seem to be a logical choice.
[23:50] <mebus> what's wrong there?
[23:50] <Bilby> ouch, that sounds nasty
[23:51] <mebus> that is not working: https://rpi.tnet.com/project/faqs/resetpasswd
[23:51] <Bilby> image the card off to safe files and then write a new copy, there's not much else you can do
[23:51] <mebus> Bilby: why? I just need to change the root pw.
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[23:52] <Bilby> if the file system is breaking every time you boot you can't do much can you
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[23:53] <Bilby> mun interesting getting started guide - http://www.instructables.com/id/Getting-Started-with-the-ESP8266-ESP-12/
[23:55] <mun> Bilby yep. Will be following that when it gets here!
[23:55] <[Saint]> If you FS is breaking every boot, do yourself a favor, and figure out why.
[23:56] <[Saint]> Don't waste time fixing it, jeez.
[23:56] <[Saint]> Hello #raspberrypi, this is logic calling, nice to meet you.
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[23:57] <Bilby> Cool, mun. Just make sure you give it enough current ;)
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[23:57] <[Saint]> There's a few obvious areas to look at, PSU, OC(?), sdcard.
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[23:57] <mun> Bilby I was hoping to power it up with batteries
[23:57] <Bilby> Someone hath raised [Saint]'s dander, oh world. Weep, and shiver, and quake in thy boots.
[23:57] <Bilby> >_>
[23:57] <mun> Bilby how much current are we talking?
[23:58] <Bilby> i've seen numbers quoted of upwards of 250ma @ 3.3v
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[23:58] <mun> Hmm
[23:59] <[Saint]> Bilby: forgive me for suggesting actually investigating the issue instead of resigning to it - sheesh.
[23:59] <Bilby> trying to find a source
[23:59] <Bilby> haha no worries man
[23:59] <mun> Hopefully batteries will be ok
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[23:59] <Bilby> it just popped into my head, sorry ;)

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