#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2015-05-15

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[0:00] <osxyer> where can I get a cheap rp2 with usb hub?
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[0:02] <ozzzy> aren't they the same everywhere... 35 bux?
[0:02] <osxyer> in canada they are more expensive for some reasons, maybe currency exchange
[0:02] <osxyer> im just not quite sure where to buy it from
[0:02] <ozzzy> yeah... currency exchange
[0:02] <ozzzy> I get my pis from element 14
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[0:02] <osxyer> lets see
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[0:03] <osxyer> will the rp2 be a good media center for the next years?
[0:04] <osxyer> I dont plan on buying 4k tv
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[0:04] <osxyer> i want to add external hard drive and transfer movies to it by ethernet
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[0:06] <shiftplusone> try it and see if it suits you
[0:06] <osxyer> well, i wont be able to get a refund if it doesn't
[0:06] <shiftplusone> who needs a refund when you've got a pi
[0:07] <Froolap> osxyer: that really depends on your tastes. you can get the pi to do that but it will always lack the polish of off the shelf items designed to do that.
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[0:07] <osxyer> well, with openelec, it is enough for me...what do you mean by (polish)
[0:08] <Froolap> if you want a project to tinker with and take up your time then the pi is for you, if you want something to impress your friends watching movies then maybe you wanf a ruku or firestick
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[0:08] <osxyer> oh no, i prefer the pi
[0:10] <Froolap> I mean you'll likely have stutter, drops outs, why isn't the sound working? it was working yesterday... always something to fiddle with
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[0:10] <osxyer> im happy with pi1 with openelec....just need faster UI browsing
[0:10] <Froolap> if you want a just works and don;t have friends that will complain that the football looks like a basketball
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[0:11] <osxyer> im sorry Froolap
[0:14] <Froolap> the pi is supposed to be a learning project and it's very good at that. It wasn't intended to win Best Float in the parade. but when it's all said and done, your choice and nobody can tell you what you'll be happy with. until you try, you don't know.
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[0:16] <osxyer> what about odroid
[0:17] <dominolx> Froolap: 22 fail! lol
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[0:24] <Froolap> sorry to hear that.
[0:24] <dominolx> its okay, first attempt
[0:24] <dominolx> kinda expected
[0:24] <Froolap> well, if you want to get brutalllll
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[0:25] <dominolx> it didn't even boot
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[0:26] <Froolap> you could copy off the 22 files for / onto your linux machine, install the image that I gave you and then blow away the data on the sd ext4 partition and copy the data from f22 over to the sd /
[0:27] <dominolx> I could to that but I am also looking at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_a_Fedora_install_ISO_for_testing
[0:27] <Froolap> yeah, fedora-arm doesn't like using a vfat partition to boot from and the pi requires it, so you kinf of have to do some tricks there
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[0:29] <Froolap> you are going to run into problems.... that may give you an image/iso that would work on a pc/mac, but it's not going to work seamlessly on the pi.
[0:29] <Froolap> your best case using fedora kernel is you will not have hdmi or be able to use xwindows
[0:30] <Froolap> it will boot..... might not recognize keyboard/mouse..... you might get past that. but the video drivers will never be included in anything official fedora
[0:31] <Froolap> they are not open source.....
[0:32] <Froolap> you would be better off making your image from https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=98424&p=699413
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[0:40] <Froolap> at least there you have the github for making a uboot that supports video.
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[0:56] <steve_rox> just doing some tests on that PIFM script/program
[0:56] <steve_rox> as suspected its a right mess of a transmission
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[0:57] <steve_rox> crosses into many frequences
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[1:01] <[Saint]> I don't find there to be much bleed at all.
[1:01] <hosler> is there any other option for wayland on pi besides fbdev?
[1:02] <steve_rox> its a amazing mess believe me
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[1:03] <steve_rox> i woudent be suprised if the law did come after you for using it
[1:03] <steve_rox> filter is prob nessery
[1:03] <[Saint]> hosler: don't quote me on it, but I don't think anything ever came of it since the wayland preview from RPF/Collabora
[1:03] <hosler> [Saint]: i mean are there drm drivers for pi?
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[1:06] <steve_rox> i found pifm transmitting on about 3 seprate frequencys and flooding a large ammount of spectrum
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[1:06] <pksato> steve_rox: yes, square wave generate lots of harmonics.
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[1:07] <steve_rox> not sure it can be called square heh
[1:08] <pksato> odd harmonics
[1:08] <steve_rox> glad i removed the antenna it transmitts even when prog is halted
[1:08] <pksato> program not stop clock generator.
[1:08] <steve_rox> yeah i was thinking something like that
[1:09] <steve_rox> was going to reboot it to see if it cleared it but removeing the antenna cleared it right off
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[1:09] <steve_rox> this sdr usb radio has been kinda fun
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[1:09] <pksato> you interfering on my tv. :P :)
[1:10] <steve_rox> eh?
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[1:10] <steve_rox> you saying it infects tv signals too?
[1:10] <pksato> kidding.
[1:10] <steve_rox> :D
[1:11] <pksato> yes. if have tv near.
[1:11] <steve_rox> now i need some kinda radio transmitter
[1:11] <steve_rox> that will do 433mhz
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[1:11] <steve_rox> i dont think the rpi goes that high
[1:11] <pksato> analog tv you see some lines or dots crossing screen.
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[1:12] <pksato> on dtv freezing or artifacts
[1:12] <steve_rox> i was able to intercept air traffic
[1:12] <steve_rox> that was mildly interestin
[1:13] <pksato> rtlsdr dongle?
[1:13] <steve_rox> effecively yea
[1:13] <hosler> any gentoo pi users online?
[1:14] <pksato> rtlsdr amazing useless cheap device. :)
[1:14] <steve_rox> yeah i was trying to find some tv viewing software for it
[1:15] <steve_rox> i was not effective
[1:15] <pksato> as DTV reciever, works only on DVB-T1 area.
[1:15] <steve_rox> is that bad?
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[1:16] <pksato> useless in USA.
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[1:16] <steve_rox> oh right
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[1:17] <steve_rox> i thought they went over to digital?
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[1:18] <pksato> USA? yes. most all digital now. But USA uses ATSC.
[1:18] <steve_rox> always has to be someone awkward :-)
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[1:34] <Froolap> i give up
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[1:36] <KD7JWC> hi has anyone and issues with the ubuntu mare pi2 edition borking on disk resize, its done it 3 times to me now wiht different disks following their websites directions
[1:36] <KD7JWC> mare=mate
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[1:36] <ozzzy> nope... I stick with raspbian
[1:37] <Froolap> I wouldn't touch ubuntu, it's evil.
[1:37] <KD7JWC> both answers not helpful guys
[1:38] <ozzzy> I rather liked it on the desktop... it wasn't Mandriva but it was ok
[1:38] <Froolap> but they are truthful
[1:38] <ozzzy> KD7JWC, well... better than listening to crickets
[1:38] <ozzzy> you're the first person I've seen on here even hinting that they run 'buntu on a Pi
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[1:39] <KD7JWC> thye have a pi2 edition and it runs great until i try to resize the partition
[1:40] <ozzzy> well... keep asking
[1:40] <ozzzy> also... if you figure out WHY don't forget to post
[1:40] <NedScott> Ubuntu? I'm going to learn... Ubuntu?
[1:43] <Froolap> KD7JWC: looking in from another chan, if you want fedora I can help with that....
[1:43] <KD7JWC> well hi and thank you
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[1:44] <Froolap> I think I've seen you ask in the pidora channel a couple of times but left before I could say anything
[1:44] <Froolap> and just noticed you asking in fedora
[1:44] <KD7JWC> i spent some time running fed 17-19 but have forgotten most of it to be honest, anyways, is there a large package source of software for amateur radio for hte pi edition?
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[1:45] <KD7JWC> and what desktops are out there for it, i havent spent a lot of time looking yet
[1:46] <Froolap> for ham radio, I really couldn't tell ya if there's anything in fedora for ham... and as for large.... that's a matter of perspective.
[1:46] <KD7JWC> i have been fussing with the ubuntu and eveyr time i get it just right and go to resize my initialpatition it flops
[1:46] <KD7JWC> please share your perspective?
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[1:46] <Froolap> I have seen images with cinimon, xfce, something that starts with an L....
[1:47] <KD7JWC> i like mate a lot
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[1:47] <KD7JWC> lxde prob
[1:47] <Froolap> My perspective: I don't do anything with ham other than cook and eat it.... so I wouldn't have any idea how you would turn it into a radio. :)
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[1:47] <KD7JWC> lol ok, well i use flrig and fldigi a lot
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[1:47] <KD7JWC> as well as dstarrepeater and ircddbgateway software on it
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[1:48] <Froolap> as it is.... I was refered to a sire in the fedora-arm channel that had 4 images for fedora for the rpi2b..... unfortunately that site is gone, and I only have the xfce image..... I can share
[1:48] <KD7JWC> i compile all of me so thats not problem its the knowing what to install to be able ot compile my most used software
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[1:49] <KD7JWC> thats not good i dont care for xfce really but he if i can get something written to take advantage of the 4 cores and run stable ill be happy
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[1:50] <Froolap> You could always use yum to uninstall xfce and then install the flavor of the day.
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[1:51] <KD7JWC> is there a decent page on the fidora distro?
[1:51] <KD7JWC> whats it called anyway?
[1:51] <Froolap> uh..... I'm not sure I understand the question
[1:51] <KD7JWC> google netted a few pages but didnt want to waste time on something not up to date with support
[1:52] <KD7JWC> what is the fedora pi edition called?
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[1:52] <KD7JWC> pi@
[1:52] <KD7JWC> pi2
[1:52] <KD7JWC> sorry i am having to read through tears i have a bad back
[1:53] <KD7JWC> i hope i asked the right question
[1:53] <Froolap> That's a funny question, there is no official fedora for the pi, There is Pidora which was a remix of fedora for the pi, but I'm not sure that's still active....
[1:53] <KD7JWC> yeah it seamed like a dead end
[1:53] <Froolap> There's fedora-arm which is about as official as it gets, but at this time no direct support for the pi due to non open source video drivers
[1:53] <Froolap> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/F21/Installation
[1:54] <Froolap> But there's the wiki for fedora-arm, which appears quite extensive.
[1:54] <KD7JWC> what i found was this so far https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=101027 thank you for that link
[1:55] <Froolap> and the fedora-arm project is active and working towards a new release, so I expect updates will be available.
[1:55] <KD7JWC> great news! thanks for that
[1:56] <Froolap> Yeah, tyhe problem is that the digitaldreams site that HAD the pi2b fedora images is no longer running.
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[1:56] <Froolap> I don't know of any other mirrors for it. I only was able to save one image from it.
[1:58] <Froolap> you can download Pi2B-Fedora-Xfce-armhfp-21-5-20150219-1-sda.raw.xz from me at
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[1:58] <Froolap> other than that, that is the only image that I know of for fedora on the pi2b
[1:59] <KD7JWC> it doesnt appear to suppor the pi2 cpu unless i am mistaken, hmm more reading
[1:59] <Froolap> the image on my ftp serve is for the pi2b
[2:00] <KD7JWC> would you allow me to try it?
[2:00] <Froolap> sure.
[2:00] <KD7JWC> and also where would it point for updates or is it as is for now?
[2:00] <Froolap> see link above.
[2:00] <Froolap> uh, it seems to be configured with fedora and rpmfusion and squeeze repos.
[2:00] <Froolap> I don't know why the squeeze is there.
[2:01] <KD7JWC> oh intersting
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[2:01] <KD7JWC> its downloading for trial, thank you very much
[2:01] <Froolap> sure
[2:02] <Froolap> sorry the ftp is so slow.
[2:03] <Froolap> but it's running off of an old laptop drive converted to usb.
[2:03] <KD7JWC> its moving fine thank you
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[2:03] <KD7JWC> i am in no hurry so it could be hours and i wouldnt cry
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[2:05] <KD7JWC> 85k averages is very decent
[2:05] <KD7JWC> 850k*
[2:05] <Froolap> cool
[2:05] <KD7JWC> and you say its xfce?
[2:06] <KD7JWC> if its got repo's there may be a chance for met?
[2:06] <KD7JWC> i really like mate a lot
[2:06] <Froolap> Pi2B-Fedora-Xfce-armhfp-21-5-20150219-1-sda.raw.xz Yah, xfce
[2:06] <KD7JWC> didnt even look my appologies
[2:07] <KD7JWC> i saw fedora, single file and grabbed it
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[2:09] <Froolap> I'm seeing a bunch of stuff for mate, not sure if any of it is what you want./
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[2:15] <KD7JWC> Froolap: sorry net went down
[2:15] <Froolap> no worries
[2:15] <KD7JWC> may i have the link again
[2:16] <Froolap>
[2:16] <Froolap> not sure if the ftp serv supports resume, I'm still setting it up.
[2:18] <KD7JWC> it took off so we are good
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[2:19] <KD7JWC> thank you
[2:20] <Froolap> glad to be useful. smile
[2:21] <KD7JWC> i bet you are more useful than a download now and then
[2:22] <Froolap> not often, I'm glad the ftpd built into my router works cus I can't make it work on my pi.
[2:22] <Froolap> It's fair to say I've gotten more help than I've been able to give, but I try where I can.
[2:23] <KD7JWC> well i wll try it when it gets down
[2:27] <KD7JWC> back in a bit a friend stopped by thanks again
[2:27] <Froolap> k
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[2:41] <KD7JWC> Froolap: have you spent much time working with the pi2 and or sizing down images?
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[2:41] <Froolap> sizing down images????
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[2:42] <Froolap> I haven;'t ever made an image....
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[2:43] <Froolap> i play with the pi2 almost daily, but nothing cutting edge. mostly just ls and ps stuff
[2:44] <KD7JWC> yes let me explain, so i get the pi2 all configured and all software loaded and want to make an .img or what ever format but i dont want it 18-16gb thats the size of my memcards i want to take as an example my 16gb and make an os image that will fit on an 8gb card, how would i do that
[2:45] <Froolap> I dunno,
[2:45] <Froolap> I was asking that same thing myself
[2:45] <KD7JWC> me neither nut i wannt to for sure as it would make life simple for others as well
[2:46] <KD7JWC> well arent we just the same shade of blue lol
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[2:46] <Froolap> I'm running off of hrd drive now, so I don't see why I couldn't use a much smaller card and just have the uboot partition, but nope, it's gotta be 32 gigs or nothing
[2:48] <KD7JWC> wow i do most mine with 8 or 16
[2:49] <Froolap> I figured the cards were cheap and I hate running out of space.....
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[2:51] <Froolap> but yeah, now I should be able to boot off of a 1 gig card.... if I could find one... lol
[2:51] <KD7JWC> i have an external i use when i need to, mine is mostly for radio stuffs and plex
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[2:53] <dyce> hmm im thinking of doing a project with this: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/1602-LCD-RGB-SCREEN-KEYPAD-expansion-board-FOR-RASPBERRY-PI/32342008701.html
[2:53] <dyce> connect a powered USB hub to the pi, and whenever you connect usb hdd or usb key, it will allow you to dump the usb to a network folder or sync it
[2:55] <dyce> or maybe someone can create a synced wifi usb that is always in sync
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[3:01] <hosler> what is dispmanx
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[3:05] <Froolap> google says: Dispmanx is a windowing system in the process of being deprecated in favour of OpenWF (or similar), however dispmanx is still used in all API demos and it's replacement may not yet be available.
[3:05] <KD7JWC> Froolap: i am unsure will dd do .raw images? thats a new format for me?
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[3:06] <hosler> i dont know the right questions to ask
[3:06] <Froolap> I didn't use dd, I used the win32diskimager
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[3:07] <KD7JWC> oh, not familiar with windows alternatives, always nix of one sort or onther
[3:07] <Froolap> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=105016 says
[3:08] <Froolap> Flash the image to an SD card xzcat Fedora-Minimal-armhfp-21-5-sda.raw.xz |dd of=/dev/mmcblk0 bs=1M
[3:08] <Froolap> Make sure the card is unmounted
[3:08] <Froolap> you'll need to change the name of the image file.....
[3:09] <Froolap> and possibly where the sd card was actually found, it might be /dev/sdj1
[3:11] <Froolap> so either a one line with a pipe to dd or uncompress and then dd
[3:11] <KD7JWC> ok thanks for the tips
[3:11] <Stanto> .xz is compressed, the first command extracts the file first
[3:12] <Stanto> It actually pipes the output to dd which then writes it.
[3:12] <KD7JWC> i uncomp it allready so i am good with dd and the raw file thanks abunch
[3:12] <KD7JWC> i just wasnt sure
[3:12] <Froolap> just make certain that you dd to the correct disk or much unhappiness will ensue.
[3:13] <KD7JWC> yes i have learned that less sever years ago make usb boot images
[3:14] <KD7JWC> making*
[3:14] <Froolap> I'm still mostly windows and know just enough linux to cry help
[3:14] <NemeSys> Froolap: Where would you like to get started in learning Linux? I have a few resources I can point you to
[3:15] <KD7JWC> oh i see, well i have been mostly a nix desktop user since 97 but there is still a lot i dont know
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[3:15] <NemeSys> Froolap: Might start with Linux+ training (free at www.Cybrary.IT)
[3:16] <Froolap> NemeSys: thanks, it won't help, I can't retain it.
[3:16] <NemeSys> Froolap: With practice, you can retain anything.
[3:16] <NemeSys> if that's the case, I suggest Zed Shaw's Command Line Crash Course (also free, and online)
[3:16] <Froolap> I used to be oracle dba...... head injury and amnesia
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[3:17] <NemeSys> Froolap: Then try reading through the Arch Wiki
[3:17] <NemeSys> that place has almost everything worth needing to know about Linux at your finger tips. Granted, it's Arch but a lot of it overlaps
[3:17] <Froolap> oh god, arch..... I can't understand that....
[3:17] <NemeSys> Arch is easy
[3:17] <NemeSys> you can read Wiki.
[3:17] <NemeSys> If you can read, you can Arch.
[3:18] <zacts> I got minix3 up and running on the bbb
[3:19] <Froolap> until someone says hello, and then I lost what I had. I've set up gtpd several times, but I still can't remember the port ranges.
[3:19] <Froolap> errrr ftpd
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[3:23] <Stanto> Getting into linux is a pain. It's probably getting easier for people, but there's a lot about it that basically takes years of fumbling around until you either get fed up of it or end up finding a fix.
[3:24] <Froolap> I've been fumbling since redhat4. was really proud when I got redhat5 on cd
[3:24] <KD7JWC> stanley: it probably took you years to learn windows as well
[3:24] <McBride36> rpi helped me get into linux
[3:24] <KD7JWC> Stanto: ^
[3:24] <KD7JWC> stanley: sorry miss type
[3:25] <KD7JWC> anythimg new takes time
[3:25] <Stanto> KD7JWC: Getting started with Windows was a lot easier than getting started with Linux. For one, Windows supported my hardware and RedHat at the time did not. With no internet access and only magazines to support me, this was a dead end.
[3:25] <KD7JWC> but thats what 18 years ago
[3:25] <Stanto> As I said, it's probably easier for people now.
[3:26] <Stanto> I also used past tense ;)
[3:26] <KD7JWC> gotcha didnt see that, i am a proponant for people learning new things
[3:26] <McBride36> much easier
[3:26] <Froolap> heh, I remember downloading slackware at 2400 baud for a week so I could make 31 install floppies. :)
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[3:27] <PixelFilth> Stanto before the internet I used BBS's as a source of information :P good old fidonet though it took days/weeks to get a responce at times LOL
[3:27] <Stanto> I still somewhat find that setting up a linux system, you need another system that's working to be able to set it up. Usually I resort to Windows or Android on the second system, knowing it just works. Though these days that could easily be Ubuntu or a live disc/usb stick.
[3:27] <Froolap> I used to run fido. :)
[3:27] <Stanto> PixelFilth: Haha, I didn't stumble upon BBSs unfortunately, for all I had a 1200 baud modem. My social circles/magazines didn't mention them at all.
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[3:29] <Froolap> I remember having a 300 baud modem and wondering why I kept getting disconnected.... the reason was that I learned how to type and was flooding myself off. lol
[3:29] <PixelFilth> lol
[3:29] <Stanto> Nice, oh you reminded me, that I bothered to work out how many kilobytes/second I could type at from words per minute
[3:29] <PixelFilth> remember knocking the phone over an out of the modem :P
[3:30] <PixelFilth> good old days lol
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[3:31] <Froolap> it was great joy to pick up the phone, dial the number and then quickly disconnect the headset so I could plug it into my commodore modem and flip a switch hopefully before the host timed out.
[3:31] <PixelFilth> lol
[3:32] <Froolap> those were the golden years of computers, let me tell ya.
[3:33] <KD7JWC> my first global connection was a bbs via my zoltech 28800 modem, it was the cats meow
[3:33] <Froolap> they really were cus back then anybody that had a computer had no idea what they could do with it, so everyone helpped everyone and we were all looking for the next That's Neat!
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[3:33] <pmumble> i just found my old 9600 baud modem in a bin a few days ago. its sad to throw it away. a cardinal.
[3:34] <pmumble> has a "high speed" light on it
[3:34] <pmumble> lol
[3:34] <Froolap> You might be able to sell it on ebay if it works. There's likely someone who really really wants one.
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[3:35] <Froolap> I have a collection of ten 486 class machines
[3:35] <pmumble> that stuff is hard to throw away
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[3:37] <Froolap> yeah it is. It weighs soo much
[3:38] <pmumble> never should have gotten rid of my amiga 500s.
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[3:57] <Cassinator> What has everyone done with their pi?
[4:00] <Stanto> ate it
[4:00] <Stanto> pmumble: still have my a1200 :D
[4:00] <Stanto> then my gf said "I've brought my old computer over" and an A600 appeared
[4:00] <Cassinator> haha nice!
[4:00] <Stanto> and to my surprise, she wanted me to fix her brother's, which was an a500. So it's now a weird happy family
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[4:01] <Cassinator> I've got two at my apartment....first one is a retro game emulator, debating what to do with the second.
[4:03] <niston> Cassinator: Since you ask... https://niston.wordpress.com/2014/10/10/niston-stream-one/
[4:05] <Cassinator> wow, that's nifty.... *bookmarks*
[4:05] <Cassinator> How long did it take you?
[4:05] <pmumble> Stanto: nice!
[4:06] <pmumble> I just rigged mine up with a console cable. thats about the most adventurous thing so far.. but just picked up an lcd yesterday so we'll see. :)
[4:06] <niston> Cassinator: spent way more time on writing software for it, than to assemble the hardware
[4:06] <Cassinator> I figured, I was curious overall time?
[4:06] <niston> it says at the bottom of the blog post :)
[4:06] <Cassinator> My retro game emulator took me about a month (couple hours here and there)
[4:07] <Cassinator> Ah, I see, had not read that far:D
[4:07] <Cassinator> wow, that's some dedication right there...
[4:08] <niston> welp I had both time and money :D
[4:08] <Cassinator> nice!
[4:08] <Cassinator> wanna share? lol
[4:08] <niston> burnt it all through
[4:08] <niston> :P
[4:09] <niston> i gotta bill the other day
[4:09] <niston> $13k, payable within 20 days
[4:09] <niston> like heh
[4:10] * niston is poor
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[4:10] <Cassinator> lol I know that feel
[4:11] <Cassinator> get paid and it's all gone by the next day...bill man
[4:11] <niston> yeah no funny
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[4:12] <Froolap> I get paid weakly, vear weakly
[4:12] <Froolap> very
[4:12] <Cassinator> lmao
[4:12] <Cassinator> I have a spending problem...
[4:12] <Cassinator> Tech hobbies are expensiveXD
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[4:13] <Froolap> I don't have a spending problem, it's easy, I have a cash flow problem.
[4:14] <Cassinator> yeah I keep telling myself the solution is easy
[4:14] <Cassinator> make more money
[4:15] <Froolap> I tried that but my printer jammed on the coins.
[4:15] <Cassinator> ha!
[4:16] <KD7JWC> i think my pi2 is having a heart attack with 2 compiles going at once, little turd better hurry up
[4:16] <Cassinator> awe poor turd!
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[4:16] <Froolap> did you get fedora running?
[4:18] <KD7JWC> not yet thats tomorrows trial
[4:19] <Froolap> awwwwww
[4:22] <KD7JWC> 2 configures running and s makes running and cpu is at 73% woo hoo
[4:22] <KD7JWC> 2 makes
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[4:22] <Froolap> yeah, but is it melting?
[4:22] <KD7JWC> 78mb ram used
[4:23] <nimtz> anyone using synergy with pi2?
[4:23] <KD7JWC> its running ok so far
[4:24] <KD7JWC> just look warm
[4:25] <Cassinator> won't it shut off before it starts melting...
[4:25] <Froolap> as long as it's below 84
[4:26] <Froolap> vcgencmd measure_temp
[4:27] <KD7JWC> the metal case is luke warm its not bad
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[4:36] <KD7JWC> ouch only 21mb of ram free, its working the cpu's at 78%
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[4:53] <cehteh> KD7JWC: zswap ftw
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[5:05] <dominolx> what is the default boot loader on the raspbian?
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[5:29] <codebam> whats a good tempature to be sitting at while its idling? right now its around 50 degrees C. is that alright?
[5:29] <tawr> depends on ambient
[5:29] <tawr> 50c seems a tad on the high side, but nothing you can do can really overheat a pi
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[5:30] <tawr> compiling with all 4 cores non-stop for 3 hours i managed to raise my temps from 45C (on cpu and gpu) to 65C. and it's in an enclosed case with a battery backup on top of it that also makes heat
[5:31] <codebam> hmm well its overclocked to 1000 with a case. I think the usb ports (wifi keyboard) are actually raising the temperature a lot
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[5:33] <codebam> does that camera flash thing actually work? what chip is the one that is sensitive to it?
[5:33] <tawr> mines at 800, idles at 45C
[5:33] <tawr> and yes, and it's not just the pi, it's how bga packaging is
[5:34] <codebam> well 5 degrees shouldnt be too much to worry about. I was streaming HD video earlier and I didnt even get it up to 60.
[5:35] <tawr> you really can't hurt it with temps
[5:35] <tawr> it's rated to 100C, but the software starts slowing it down to cool it at 85C
[5:36] <codebam> overclocking doesnt void warrenty right? just if I enable force_boost?
[5:36] <tawr> no clue
[5:36] <tawr> that being said, you pay to play. you burn it out oc'ing it, you know it wasn't their fault
[5:37] <codebam> it doesnt matter much... its like $45. I could just buy another board and use the same peripherals
[5:37] <codebam> but I dont think itll be easy to break. and I dont plan on it :p
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[5:38] <HotCoder> yo tawr whats up?
[5:38] <codebam> well, good talking to you tawr. thanks for the info
[5:38] <HotCoder> i ordered the pi
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[5:41] <tawr> nice HotCoder
[5:41] <tawr> of course codebam , same
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[5:54] <HotCoder> tawr how old are you? if i may ask?
[5:55] <tawr> haha, i'll never tell
[5:55] <HotCoder> ah ok
[5:55] <HotCoder> well i'm 20
[6:02] <tawr> so
[6:02] <tawr> when's your pi coming in
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[6:16] <SgrA> Hi
[6:17] <SgrA> I set up my RPi to act as a WiFi AP and made it a systemd unit which wraps around create_ap to bridge and run hostapd.
[6:17] <SgrA> Now, at start up, my WiFi AP starts up but I can't ssh into the RPi.
[6:18] <SgrA> It says timed out.
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[6:21] <SgrA> I hooked the RPi up to a display and keyboard, eth0 does get an IP allotted to it, and that's the IP I'm trying to SSH to.
[6:25] <HotCoder> tawr oh sorry. i was in another room
[6:25] <HotCoder> tawr pi coming in by 27th this month
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[6:58] <tawr> nice HotCoder
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[7:04] <HotCoder> tawr im excited dude
[7:07] <tawr> good
[7:08] <RaptorJesus> ne1 here drunk
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[7:10] <HotCoder> RaptorJesus, i'm always drunk
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[7:32] <tawr> i want to sell my fjz80
[7:32] <tawr> and grab an m3 finally
[7:32] <tawr> but i also want to go twins on my 6.7 dd
[7:32] <tawr> doh, wrong channel
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[7:34] <HotCoder> tawr LOL
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[7:42] <tawr> car talk :D
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[7:51] <injigo> just compiled a build list for a HTPC Pi
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[7:56] <injigo> https://pad.riseup.net/p/1gynHpAfWTZP
[7:58] <injigo> this link is better: https://pad.riseup.net/p/1gynHpAfWTZP/timeslider#21
[7:59] * [Saint] wonders why imgur is being a douchenozzle.
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[8:00] <injigo> whatchu guys think?
[8:00] <injigo> [Saint]: isn't it mostly a douchenozzle?
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[8:55] <pagios> hello, i am looking for a window manager that would allow me to run programs at certain coordinates (example xcalc on coord 0,0; gedit on coord 100,100; chrome on coord 500,500) ) the Windows manager should provide that basic interface to the users, disallowing them from opening terminals and such. Just use what is provided on the window manager;; can anyone point me to some WM that can allow me to achive that Thank you
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[9:17] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> hi all, ai got a problem with my newest raspbian... theres a problem with cfis
[9:17] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> is here someone who could take a look via ssh?
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[10:17] <Smither> hey ThUnD3r|Gr33n just a bit of advice. You don't _ever_ want to give anyone access to anything on your network via ssh or any other means unless you personally know them and trust them. It's a massive security risk, they can do anything once they're in
[10:18] <Smither> describe your problem in a clear and succinct way and someone will try help
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[10:34] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> ok Smither
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[10:37] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> you are rtight but i hope to meet some honest guys here.. and don't you worry.. i have nopthing to hide :)
[10:37] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> i believe in a community honest and willed to help.
[10:37] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> but generally you are totally right
[10:38] <ShorTie> only takes 1 bad apple as they say
[10:38] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> now my error:
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[10:40] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> libkmod ERROR: libkamod/libkamod.c 554 kmod_search_moddep: could not open moddep file /lib modules3.18.7-v7+/modules.dep.bin
[10:43] <ShorTie> what does 'uname -a" say ??
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[10:55] <ShorTie> ThUnD3r|Gr33n ??
[10:57] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> hi ShorTie
[10:57] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> how r u ?
[10:57] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> i have a kernel problem again :( sorry
[10:57] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> :)
[10:57] <ShorTie> i'm ok, what does 'uname -a" say ??
[10:57] <ShorTie> oh
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[10:58] <ShorTie> using the foundations kernel ??
[10:58] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> dist-upgrade
[10:58] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> i check for uname -a
[10:58] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> wait a sec
[10:58] <ShorTie> wait till after dist-upgrade, it might change
[10:59] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> Linux emevth 3.18.7-v7+ #755 SMP PREEMPT Thu Feb 12 17:20:48 GMT 2015 armv7l GNU/Linux
[10:59] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:59] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> it's up to date...
[11:00] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> reboot didn't chenge
[11:00] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> change
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[11:01] <ShorTie> hmmm, i thought they were up to 3.18.11-v7+
[11:02] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> i guess i have a fstab mistake again .. i setup my sc card new after our operation :P
[11:03] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> during the boot there's a message regarding the kernel...
[11:03] <ShorTie> why 4 you playing in fstab ??
[11:03] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> would u mind to check via ssh
[11:03] <ShorTie> Yes
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[11:03] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> i need it to mount network drive
[11:03] <MY123> What is the maximal stable overclock for a RPi2?
[11:04] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> ShorTie: PM
[11:04] <ShorTie> raspi-config say 900mhz
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[11:04] <ShorTie> we can talk here, maybe others might join in
[11:04] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> ok
[11:05] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> i thought u wanted to ssh my pi :)
[11:05] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> do u still have the credentials?
[11:05] <MY123> ShorTie, the base frequency of a RPi2 is 900MHz
[11:05] <ShorTie> what credentials ??
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[11:06] <ShorTie> i thought it was like 700mhz
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[11:08] <jost> Hi! I've got a raspberry pi 2 B running. Normally I manage it using SSH, but now I need to connect a monitor and keyboard to it - problem is that the monitor does not get an HDMI signal. What can I do about that, without rebooting? I'm assuming the signal the raspberry sends is too weak...
[11:08] <jost> The OS on the raspberry is an ubuntu
[11:09] <ShorTie> gotta reboot for hdmi to work
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[11:09] <ShorTie> if no hdmi at boot, it switches over to composite
[11:09] <jost> ShorTie: is there any way to do it without reboot?
[11:10] <ShorTie> not that i know of
[11:10] <jost> The problem is that I have removed admin rights from my SSH account, and the only admin account left can't be accessed by SSH...
[11:10] <jost> so I can't do a clean shutdown
[11:11] <jost> Is there a way to trigger a sync with the SD card as unprivileged user?
[11:11] <jost> so the card does not get corrupted?
[11:12] <ShorTie> whelp, give it few and make sure the act light is not blinking, and it should be ok to just pull the plug
[11:12] <ShorTie> any use can use the shutdown command though
[11:12] <ShorTie> s/use/user/
[11:13] <jost> Hmm, ok... Can I somehow prevent the pi to switch to composite mode so I can attach a monitor at any time later?
[11:13] <Xark> jost: Yes, you can force HDMI with a setting in config.txt.
[11:13] <jost> ShorTie: not on ubuntu: "shutdown: Need to be root"
[11:13] <ShorTie> think in config.txt there is a forcehdmi
[11:14] <ShorTie> that is what sudo is about, is it not ??
[11:15] <jost> ShorTie: exactly, and my problem is, that I have accidentially removed sudo rights from my user
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[11:21] <fno> HELLO, have anybody built wayland on rpi? what about it?
[11:21] <ShorTie> bummer, quickest fix i'd do is a wipe-n-reload
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[11:26] <Xark> Or just edit the kernel command line to pop up a root shell (where you can change passwords etc.)
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[11:29] <jost> Ok, I just unplugged the pi, now it won't boot anymore - when checking the SD card with fsck on my desktop machine, it shows me "0x25: Dirty bit is set. Fs was not properly unmounted and some data may be corrupt." for the first partition (64MB, FAT16), and no problems for the second partition (ext4)
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[11:30] <jost> When trying to boot from that SD card, nothing happens - the green LED does not flash a single time
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[11:31] <Xark> Okay, now you may want to re-image (or boot a second SD card and see if you can get at ext4 partition).
[11:31] <jost> Ok... this happens *every* time I cut power to the PI. Is there some way to prevent stuff like that?
[11:32] <Xark> Putting root on a USB HDD may help.
[11:32] <jost> (of course I have backups, but it sucks to have to set up everything *again*)
[11:32] <SirWigglyBottom> Do you shut down the pi with shutdown -h now?
[11:32] <Xark> Basically "cutting power" vs clean shutdown needs to be avoided.
[11:32] <jost> SirWigglyBottom: that's the problem, I couldn't do that, because HDMI was off
[11:32] <SirWigglyBottom> Aaah
[11:32] <SirWigglyBottom> SSH into the pi?
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[11:33] <jost> and my SSH account had no sudo rights
[11:33] <SirWigglyBottom> Aah, I see.
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[11:33] <SirWigglyBottom> Do you have a GPIO port left?
[11:33] <jost> is there some acpi-shutdown-thing?
[11:33] <jost> yes
[11:33] <jost> all of them
[11:33] <SirWigglyBottom> You could add a little momentary swtich that triggers script that is run with sudo rights on startup that trippers the shutdown.
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[11:33] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> i mean my access to my raspberry shengtheninja
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[11:42] <fno> HELLO?
[11:42] <SirWigglyBottom> hello!
[11:43] <fno> have you ever used wayland?
[11:43] <fno> on rpi
[11:44] <SirWigglyBottom> Nop, I haven't.
[11:44] <SirWigglyBottom> Any particular reason to use it?
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[11:45] <fno> just wanna have a try.
[11:46] <fno> wanna know whether it's faster than xorg
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[11:47] <SirWigglyBottom> Aaah interesting.
[11:48] <SirWigglyBottom> I'm playing with a old 1.1. model so i'm a bit hesitant to try fiddling with the interface too much.
[11:48] <SirWigglyBottom> It already has trouble enough doing full 1080 output over HDMI.
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[11:50] <fno> 1.1 model?
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[11:51] <SirWigglyBottom> I think it's the first version, 1.1 revision.
[11:51] <SirWigglyBottom> Got it from my brother who used a few of those for a wifi tracking project at work.
[11:51] <SirWigglyBottom> Big brother 2.0 to spy on his colleagues.
[11:52] <fno> model A? or older?
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[11:53] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> ShorTie:
[11:53] <ShorTie> Yeesss....
[11:53] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> are you here? the last time you saw a mistake in my system.. would u mind to check again? regarding the kernel and cfis malfunction?
[11:53] <SirWigglyBottom> Yep, that's the one
[11:54] <ShorTie> think you might have me cornfused with shiftplusone
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[12:01] <MY123> When will BCM go to 28nm or FinFET for RPis/
[12:01] <MY123> ?
[12:01] <MY123> 25$ B+? WHAT?
[12:02] <ShorTie> Broadcom ??
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[12:02] <MY123> ShorTie, yeah
[12:03] <ShorTie> i believe Broadcom has drop the whole department/line that developed the pi's SoC, so i don't even know how a new pi is gonna come to be really
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[12:04] <MY123> ShorTie, they did the 2B after they dropped the line
[12:04] <MY123> through the architectural changes are minimal in it
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[12:05] <ShorTie> does mean that the SoC wasn't already designed, does it ??
[12:05] <ShorTie> s/does/doesn't/
[12:06] <MY123> ShorTie, and there is VideoCore V evidence on Eben Upton's LinkedIN page
[12:08] <ShorTie> the rpi2 was designed last year and was secheduled for release in 2017, the only reason it was released now, imho, was because of the Odroid
[12:09] <ShorTie> which still beats the pi by spec's
[12:10] <ShorTie> although the foundation might have been the originator of the 35 dollar 'pc', they not really the leader anymore, imho
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[12:14] <fno> I'm just interested in Win IoT for rpi2.
[12:15] <ShorTie> which is not just a pi thing, it's just a also pi thing
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[12:18] <ShorTie> and it's only being released as a free thing, imho, to try to prompt windows over linux
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[12:20] <ShorTie> or more so to try to recapture some the peeps, because linux was the only os for these type things and is/was putting a hurting on the desktop pc crowd which windows like owns
[12:21] <ShorTie> so they had like no choice to do, imho
[12:21] <fno> i just think it's interesting, a windows running on arm.
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[12:25] <ShorTie> as they say, "where there is a will, there is a way", so not real interesting, just a diferent compile archatecture
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[12:25] <ali1234> windows has run on ARM forever
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[12:26] <ali1234> artik looks interesting
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[12:27] <ali1234> artik 5 is basically a raspberry pi with built in wireless and bluetooth
[12:28] <fno> bluetooth?
[12:28] <ali1234> yes bluetooth
[12:28] <ali1234> also, it's the size of a postage stamp
[12:29] <ali1234> and artik 10 is a rpi2 killer, with 8 cores and 2gb ram
[12:29] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> ShorTie: maye i make a mixup with u and shiftplusone
[12:29] <ShorTie> with the development of the smart phone, the hand held pc market is gonna boom
[12:30] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> shiftplusone: are u here?
[12:30] <ShorTie> basically the same thing, without the phone if you think of it
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[12:31] <ali1234> so a tablet then?
[12:31] <ShorTie> just look at the tablet/notebook market
[12:31] <ShorTie> Yuppers ... :)
[12:31] <ali1234> the tablet market is... weak
[12:31] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> i gues home automation will boom the next month
[12:32] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> people who don't have that money to buy or rent an alarm system will swap to homeautomation system home made :)
[12:32] <ShorTie> most of home automation is already done i believe
[12:33] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> maybe I'm just late?
[12:33] <ShorTie> you just gotta research what you want and be able to build it
[12:33] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> :)
[12:33] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> with homegenie and co it shouldnt be a problem anymore
[12:33] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> ready to run systems are all over the internet
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[12:34] <fno> well, what os are you using on rpi?
[12:37] <ShorTie> raspbian, it is the most optimized os for it with all the special sauce
[12:38] <ShorTie> the guys that designed the SoC work at the foundation, so who best to know how to add all the special sauce
[12:39] <fno> I agree with you, but I found riscos is faster than raspbian.
[12:39] <fno> although it's not linux :(
[12:39] <ShorTie> can't really compare the 2 can you, they are different, like comparing a apple to a orange
[12:40] <fno> Nmm...maybe
[12:45] <fno> I'm trying thin client on rpi, but it's slow.
[12:45] <fno> I use spice client.
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[13:10] <Kalendium> Hi, need some advice, I want to make a Media Center, I dont know if the model B+ will be enought for it. Anyone with more knowledge than me can suggest other model or other alternatives(chromebox)?
[13:12] <ShorTie> going with my old pale Tim Taylor, more power, if your buying i'd get a rpi2
[13:13] <ShorTie> having said that there is/has been media center stuff, like openelectric, for the rpi B+ for awhile
[13:13] <fno> what about xbmc? I have ever used it on model B, work well.
[13:13] <Kalendium> now it's kodi I think fno
[13:14] <Kalendium> fno: Can play 1080p films with 5.1?
[13:14] <ShorTie> but, like with any pi, your limited with usb bandwith
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[13:22] <Kalendium> :(
[13:22] <Kalendium> Anyone know any good alternatives?
[13:24] <ShorTie> not really in here, because this is a raspberrypi channel, maybe ask Mr.Google, he knows all
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[13:24] <fno> I used it to watch tv, and it works well. But it always stopped to cache every once in a while, I think it's because of low ram :(
[13:25] <fno> Nmm, my meaning is xbmc. it called kodi now?
[13:25] <ShorTie> i use to watch tv too, but can't find my rabbit ears no more .. :/~
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[13:29] <fno> one of my friend forgets his passwd of freenode...
[13:30] <fno> he just registered 2 hours before...
[13:31] <ShorTie> and i thought i had a bad case of CRS, lol.
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[13:33] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> i have the pi2 with kodi.. much more fluent than the pi 1
[13:33] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> Kalendium:
[13:33] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> it plays everything!
[13:33] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> there'S a prepared sd card called OSMC
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[13:34] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> Kalendium: OSMC is based on jessie and kodi
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[13:34] <Kalendium> ThUnD3r|Gr33n: I'll dig into it
[13:34] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> if u need help.. don't hesitate to ask
[13:35] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> are you also interested in a own chat server? with android clients or iphone clients?
[13:35] <Kalendium> ThUnD3r|Gr33n: no, sorry
[13:36] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> i can recommend ejabberd and astrachat .. nice combination .. working 98%.. some lags when connection is lost with the mobile phone but it wirks super well
[13:36] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> no prob Kalendium
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[13:36] <Kalendium> I'm a complete beguiner on linux, IRC and rasp
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[13:44] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> Kalendium: we all startet tiny
[13:44] <Kalendium> ThUnD3r|Gr33n: yeah ;)
[13:44] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> me i have a prob with my kernel.. cfis doesn't work out
[13:46] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> i setup my own irc server.. but i stopped...i also had my own bot :P
[13:46] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> now i'm focused on home automation
[13:46] <fno> it's 19:46 here, i'm hungry...
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[13:48] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> where r u fno ?
[13:48] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> me i am in france.. it's 13:48
[13:48] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> lunch just passed
[13:49] <fno> I'm in China :)
[13:49] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> i will try to ask again here for my fstab problem.. is here someone who can help me?
[13:49] <Kalendium> I'm on spain, and lunch it's in 1 hour xD
[13:50] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> spain .. u have siesta from 2-4 pm right? :)
[13:50] <Kalendium> currently 13:49 too ^^
[13:50] <Kalendium> xDD
[13:50] <Kalendium> ThUnD3r|Gr33n: not really... at least me
[13:50] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> hehe
[13:50] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> SOMEONE EALSE? :P
[13:50] <Kalendium> the rest of spain?
[13:50] <Kalendium> xDD
[13:50] <Kalendium> just kidding
[13:51] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> what'S with the rest of the world?
[13:51] <Kalendium> We ussually work ;)
[13:51] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> USUALLY...
[13:51] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> :P
[13:51] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> origin i'm from germany ^^
[13:51] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> it's worth
[13:51] <Kalendium> Spain it's currently in a weird economic state
[13:51] <Kalendium> xD
[13:51] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> france also ... don't u worry
[13:51] <Kalendium> lot of unemployment
[13:51] <Kalendium> so *ussualy*
[13:52] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> i'm in lunch break here till 14:00
[13:52] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> after till 17:000 back home and pickup my new / old sony xperia u :)
[13:52] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> that'S my goal for today
[13:52] <Kalendium> My lunch break begin at 14:30
[13:52] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> till?
[13:52] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> 18:00?
[13:52] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> ^^
[13:53] <Kalendium> till 18:30
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[13:53] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> hahahahha
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[13:53] <Kalendium> and then back to home to study
[13:53] <Kalendium> :(
[13:53] <Kalendium> work + degree = death
[13:53] <ThinkingofPython> Kalendium Tell me about it.
[13:53] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> that'S the way it is ....
[13:54] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> i come home and my wife and son is waiting for me
[13:54] <ThinkingofPython> I work 40 hours a week, do uni + homework, another job, and coding on the side. D:
[13:54] <SirWigglyBottom> siesta is brilliant.
[13:54] <SirWigglyBottom> Wish I could knock out a hour or so for sleepy time after lunch.
[13:54] <ThinkingofPython> Got a 3 hour siesta, but its' 40c where I live. Good luck sleeping.
[13:54] <SirWigglyBottom> Ah yeah...
[13:54] <Kalendium> where are you ThinkingofPython
[13:54] <Kalendium> ?
[13:54] <ThinkingofPython> Even with the AC, body heats up during sleep and makes it rough
[13:54] <ThinkingofPython> I'm near Hong Kong.
[13:54] <ThinkingofPython> Zhongshan, China.
[13:54] <SirWigglyBottom> oooh
[13:54] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> I'm sorry that u have a nice weather .. we have 16 degrees... cloudy and windy ..
[13:54] <Kalendium> wow
[13:55] <ThinkingofPython> Nice weather!? D:
[13:55] <Kalendium> Here on Andalusia, there are 35 degree currently
[13:55] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> ok .. not that nice ..
[13:55] <ThinkingofPython> 40c! 30c + 100% humidity and 100% sunshine
[13:55] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> :(
[13:55] <SirWigglyBottom> My body always significantly cools when napping.
[13:55] <Kalendium> nice weather ^^
[13:55] <ThinkingofPython> makes it death
[13:55] <Kalendium> :(
[13:55] <SirWigglyBottom> Haha about the same thunder, although we got a bit of sun coming through.
[13:55] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> spain is better i guess
[13:55] <ThinkingofPython> I'm in tropical china, humidity is the worsee
[13:55] <SirWigglyBottom> Just west of you ;)
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[13:56] <Kalendium> Spain -> nice weather but no jobs? xD
[13:56] <Kalendium> + siesta
[13:56] <Kalendium> xD
[13:56] <ThinkingofPython> Doesn't help that Im not Chinese either lol
[13:56] <Kalendium> - politics
[13:56] <ThinkingofPython> I'm from a cold part of Canada
[13:56] <SirWigglyBottom> Oh
[13:56] <Kalendium> ThinkingofPython: what are you doing there?
[13:56] <SirWigglyBottom> Is there a warm part in canada? ;)
[13:56] <ThinkingofPython> I teach English.
[13:56] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> i love the cold part of ca
[13:56] <ThinkingofPython> Teach English, work as a QC/QA for a game developer, study online university, private tutoring, lesson plans, etc
[13:56] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> u could teach meteo ^^
[13:57] <ThinkingofPython> meteo?
[13:57] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> weather science ^^
[13:57] <ThinkingofPython> brb dinner
[13:57] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> bon appetite
[13:57] <HotCoder> hello all
[13:57] <SirWigglyBottom> hey hey
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[14:03] <fno> If 3dprinter can make a hamburger...
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[14:05] <atmosx> hello
[14:05] <ThinkingofPython> Thatd be nice
[14:05] <atmosx> in order to get going this button with the RPi, what else do I need? http://www.modmypi.com/raspberry-pi/hacking-and-prototyping/buttons-and-switches/16mm-illuminated-push-button-momentary-green/?search=button
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[14:05] * ozzzy just tells the replicator 'hamburger'
[14:05] <atmosx> I wanna make a prototype with a 'push-button'.
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[14:09] <niston> https://www.getdigital.eu/web/getdigital/gfx/products/__generated__resized/1100x1100/BullshitButton-main.jpg
[14:09] <niston> :>
[14:09] <SirWigglyBottom> atmosx, do you have resistor, wires etc?
[14:10] <atmosx> SirWigglyBottom: No, I'm trying to make a compiliation on what to buy in order to do what I wanna do. I'm 99% sure that I'll miss some pieces but :-(
[14:10] <SirWigglyBottom> Have you worked with electronics before?
[14:10] <atmosx> found this one http://razzpisampler.oreilly.com/ch07.html
[14:10] <ThinkingofPython> Well, you don't want to miss any pieces.
[14:10] <ThinkingofPython> That will lead to issues lol
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[14:11] <lininin> ?
[14:11] <atmosx> SirWigglyBottom: Nah, I'm a programmer, never did any soldering... But my father can literally put a car or house electric implant together (but he doesn't know nothing about software) so, I'll need to experiment on this...
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[14:11] <SirWigglyBottom> Ah I see
[14:11] <niston> issues? bah... people forget stuff all the time, even in nuclear generating stations. yet, it still takes a tsunami to produce a core meltdown.
[14:12] <ThinkingofPython> atmosx Missing parts when working with electronics, is like building a Java program and not including/importing the proper libraries.
[14:12] <lininin> 我打算吃晚饭了
[14:12] <ThinkingofPython> lininin Yes?
[14:12] <atmosx> ThinkingofPython: I know, what I'm saying is that I'll probably have some missing parts because I'm not 100% of the 'libraries' I am going to need.
[14:12] <ThinkingofPython> Why Chinese?
[14:12] <SirWigglyBottom> Well, house electronics is the big stuff, this is the tiny stuff. There is a difference but I'm sure he can handle it by the sounds of it. What oyu need is a ressitor to control the brightness of the led and stop it from burning out.
[14:12] <atmosx> I wanna connect a button to the RPi and then a thermal printer (mini)
[14:12] <SirWigglyBottom> On the page they recommend 200 to 1000 when you hook it up to 3.3V
[14:12] <ThinkingofPython> Of course, SirWigglyBottom . I mean like, if he didn't buy a resistor and such
[14:12] <atmosx> then push the button, print some things, etc. Also a monochrome display to display some text.
[14:13] <atmosx> oh and a camera :-P
[14:13] <SirWigglyBottom> heh quite a list!
[14:13] <atmosx> hm, maybe I should get a list and post it on a forum.
[14:13] <SirWigglyBottom> Probably a good idea
[14:13] <atmosx> yes
[14:13] <ThinkingofPython> lininin, 你说中国话?
[14:13] <atmosx> ThinkingofPython: You speak Chinese/Japanese?
[14:13] <atmosx> whatever that is?
[14:14] <ThinkingofPython> atmos, wo bu shou puthonghua.
[14:14] <atmosx> SirWigglyBottom: better use RaspberryPi's forums or SO?
[14:14] <ThinkingofPython> Wo shou Guangdongwa/biwa
[14:14] <ThinkingofPython> I speak Cantonese, not Mandarin, nor Japanese ;p
[14:14] <atmosx> ThinkingofPython: Cantonese? hm. Like the Barcelona dialect?
[14:14] <lininin> 为何这么屌
[14:14] <SirWigglyBottom> Uk = 3.3V, Ul = 2.2 Ur = 3.3-2.2V = 1.1V So I would say that 200 ohm resitance as minimum is quite sensible.
[14:14] <ThinkingofPython> Lol what atmosx
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[14:14] <ThinkingofPython> Cantonese, like Hong Kong Chinese
[14:14] <atmosx> ThinkingofPython: nevermind :-P
[14:15] <SirWigglyBottom> atmos,x, I really dont know much about forums unfortunately.
[14:15] <ThinkingofPython> lininin, 你能说英语吗?
[14:15] <atmosx> SirWigglyBottom: thanks for the help anyway
[14:15] <SirWigglyBottom> Anytime!
[14:15] <SirWigglyBottom> Note that a bigger resistor will dim the brightness of the LED.
[14:15] <ThinkingofPython> linnin Nǐ shuō yīngwen ma?
[14:15] <SirWigglyBottom> The smaller the value of the resistor, the biggest the chance it might burn out the led.
[14:15] <SirWigglyBottom> So be careful with that.
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[14:16] <lininin> A little bit
[14:16] <SirWigglyBottom> Oh, and get everything in 2's. You are bound to destroy some components!
[14:17] <ThinkingofPython> lininin The chat does not have all Chinese characters. Do you need help?
[14:18] <ThinkingofPython> IRC 没有中国文字
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[14:20] <lininin> Thanks for your warmhearted ! And I just downloaded irccloud and I am trying how to use it
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[14:21] <ThinkingofPython> 没问题 (mei wenti)
[14:21] <ThinkingofPython> No problem
[14:22] <Froolap> ThUnD3r|Gr33n: I would be happy to ssh into your box and format uh I mean fix your stuff.
[14:22] <wiiguy> hahaha
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[14:26] <lininin> ThinkingofPython: any body know open daylight?
[14:27] <ThinkingofPython> Hmm, I am not sure.
[14:27] <ThinkingofPython> http://www.opendaylight.org/
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[14:27] <lininin> Yes that is it
[14:28] <lininin> High latency
[14:30] <ThinkingofPython> linnin try asking here: #linux
[14:30] <ThinkingofPython> click on the name
[14:31] <ThinkingofPython> or type: /join #linux
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[14:35] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> Froolap: U won't get my ssh :)
[14:35] <Froolap> ThUnD3r|Gr33n: wanna bet?
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[14:35] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> Froolap: only if u help me.....
[14:35] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> :P
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[14:36] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> i had a really nice guy here who helped me... eh.. i also have screenx.. so i will watch u!
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[14:37] <Froolap> don't give out your ssh to anyone, you never know if it's my clone. There, now I've helpped you. have a nice day.
[14:37] <Stephini> Am I searching for the wrong thing? I can't find any info on good disconnects/cable-couplers. >.<
[14:39] <ThinkingofPython> Stephini What kind of couplers?
[14:39] <Stephini> ThinkingofPython, I just want a way to connect wires inside my project in such a way that i can later break them apart if i need to take the parts apart to replace or upgrade anything.
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[14:41] <ThinkingofPython> What cables in particular?
[14:41] <ThinkingofPython> Or just wires?
[14:42] <niston> so Pi Mod B is now 25 USD instead of 35?
[14:42] <Stephini> momentary switch in the lid is the current thing i'm trying to install. but i suspect mostly just 2 wire jobs like that.
[14:42] <ThinkingofPython> Ah. If it was a pre-made cable, I could help you
[14:42] <Stephini> you mean like cat5 or hdmi?
[14:42] <ThinkingofPython> You could always wire it up to a premade fitting such as USB or Mini USB
[14:43] <ThinkingofPython> Then get a mini usb extension, or male to female
[14:43] <Stephini> i'd thought about that. but i figured it'd be more expensive than finding a crimp solution like molex.
[14:43] <ThinkingofPython> Ah yes, could be.
[14:44] <ThinkingofPython> Molex would be a easy and cheap way to source a connection :)
[14:44] <Stephini> true. they are just damn bulky.
[14:44] <Stephini> unless maybe i could find the molex connectors for floppy drives somewhere.
[14:44] <ThinkingofPython> Micro USB is cheap and small to
[14:44] <ThinkingofPython> Or you could go sata
[14:44] <ThinkingofPython> or something else small
[14:48] <Stephini> well guess i just gotta find the name of the floppy connector now that i've had that thought.
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[14:51] <ThinkingofPython> Its a Mini-spox connector
[14:51] <ThinkingofPython> Also known as "Floppy connector".
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[14:52] <ThinkingofPython> However, finding a Male connector for them can be difficult.
[14:52] <ThinkingofPython> Mini USB may be cheaper, and will be smaller (as well may have thicker gage wire)
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[14:53] <ThinkingofPython> Haven't used a mini-spox in a while, so i forget the wire gage
[14:53] <floralshoppe> Hey, If I were to connect 3.5" SATA2 HDD via USB2 what would the expected throughput be?
[14:54] <Coded1> floralshoppe, it would likely max out at 480Mbps
[14:54] <ThinkingofPython> Firstly, how would you be powering the 3.5"?
[14:54] <floralshoppe> PSU
[14:54] <ThinkingofPython> I'd advise a 2.5".
[14:54] <floralshoppe> the power wouldnt come from the pi
[14:55] <ThinkingofPython> Ah, good.
[14:55] <floralshoppe> i have an old computer psu laying around
[14:55] <ThinkingofPython> That seems a little overkill. You can buy a 12V 3.5 Power connector for really cheap these days.
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[14:56] <ThinkingofPython> Rather than pulling a constant 300-500W (depends on PSU model) from the wall to power the hdd
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[14:56] <floralshoppe> I dont think the PSU pulls more than it needs
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[14:57] <floralshoppe> It may not be the most efficient setup but I dont it's that bad
[14:57] <floralshoppe> dont think*
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[15:04] <floralshoppe> can rasbperry boot from a usb device?
[15:04] <Froolap> so, where can I get some of these artik super gizmos?
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[15:08] <atmosx> hm, I found out that every device (except maybe the thermal printer) uses the same GPIO Pins. What's the best way to get more GPIO Pins on the Pi?
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[15:09] <ozzzy> atmosx, alter the sources to use different pins
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[15:11] <hosler> leio: you around?
[15:11] <leio> yes, gotta make my next coffee though :)
[15:12] <hosler> leio: wanna help me figure out why raspi userland cant find dispmanx header file?
[15:12] <leio> pastebin something
[15:12] <hosler> ok
[15:12] <fno> I'm back.
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[15:13] <atmosx> ozzzy: watching the videos I think 26 pins (model B+) are way less than what I need.
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[15:14] <ozzzy> peripherals should hook up to USB... what are you connecting to gpios
[15:14] <hosler> sensors!
[15:15] <ozzzy> what kind of sensors
[15:15] <hosler> the kind that use spi
[15:15] <ozzzy> ok... now we'll hear from atmosx
[15:15] <hosler> or i2c
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[15:16] <atmosx> epaper display + thermal printer
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[15:16] <atmosx> then I also need a button
[15:17] <hosler> atmosx: sounds fun
[15:17] <ozzzy> most thermal printers I've used 'talk' to the computer using ttl serial
[15:17] <ozzzy> button only uses 1 gpio
[15:17] <ozzzy> how many does the display need?
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[15:18] <atmosx> ozzzy: many http://www.embeddedartists.com/sites/default/files/support/displays/epaper/Epaper_RaspberryPi.pdf ... but if life will be easier I can settle for a monocrhome display.
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[15:19] <atmosx> ozzzy: here the button takes 2 + a breadboard http://razzpisampler.oreilly.com/ch07.html
[15:19] <atmosx> ozzzy: I'm new to electronics.
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[15:20] <ozzzy> atmosx, that should work.... rx/tx for the printer, a handful for the display and one for the button
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[15:23] <atmosx> ozzzy: why does the guy from O'reilly use a breadbord if he can connect the button directly to the RPi? to avoid soldering?
[15:23] <atmosx> here http://razzpisampler.oreilly.com/ch07.html
[15:24] <ozzzy> because his button is board mount
[15:24] <ozzzy> and it's easier to show
[15:25] <atmosx> are all buttons available board mounts?
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[15:25] <atmosx> this one for example http://www.modmypi.com/raspberry-pi/hacking-and-prototyping/buttons-and-switches/16mm-illuminated-push-button-momentary-green
[15:25] <ozzzy> lots of different buttons available.... board mount, panel mount, on a lead
[15:26] <hosler> leio: https://bpaste.net/show/3a7e605a2aad
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[15:28] <leio> hosler: can you try without pump mode? (non-pump distcc works for me)
[15:28] <leio> so we can narrow this down it isn't related to that
[15:28] <leio> (and if it yes, there's still probably something to fix, somewhere)
[15:28] <hosler> leio: how about i just turn off distcc? would have help?
[15:28] <hosler> that*
[15:28] <leio> if you have the patience; I compile it with distcc, but not pump
[15:29] <hosler> ok ill turn off pump
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[15:29] <leio> has it been working nicely otherwise? pump mode I mean
[15:29] <atmosx> ozzzy: thanks you've been very helpful.
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[15:30] <leio> before I could get into investigating that and measuring it's effect, I got up to rpi2 and figured I might as well keep rpi quadcores themselves busy too with preprocessing
[15:30] <atmosx> ozzzy: is there any sort of book for beginners?
[15:30] <atmosx> ozzzy: on electronics, rpi, etc. I've seen the 'rpi cookbook' from OReilly, is that any good?
[15:31] <ozzzy> dunno... I've never seen it
[15:31] <hosler> leio: alright pump is off. gentoo on rpi wouldnt be that bad if it didnt take a year to calculate deps
[15:31] <fno> Raspberry Pi User Guide? It's very foundational.
[15:31] <leio> maybe too high backtrack value; there were some tricks to speed it up
[15:31] <leio> but I haven't looked into it, I guess I'm too patient
[15:32] <hosler> im patient too
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[15:39] <hosler> leio: same error :( https://bpaste.net/show/8f2ed14e71ea
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[15:40] <__FNO__> I hate raining.
[15:40] <leio> can you put up the whole build.log somewhere? pastebin if it fits, upload somewhere if not?
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[15:40] <leio> I can turn on my pi a bit later to compare and re-test myself
[15:40] <hosler> ok
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[15:43] <hosler> leio: here is build log https://bpaste.net/show/e5c0f49c9e7d
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[15:44] <hosler> leio: ping me whenever you get around to it
[15:44] <hosler> thanks
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[15:51] <__FNO__> it seems that somebody has been porting python to run without os.
[15:54] <MY123> __FNO__, you are wrong!
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[15:54] <Tenkawa> hi all
[15:55] <__FNO__> MY123: ?
[15:55] <__FNO__> Tenkawa: hello~
[15:56] <MY123> __FNO__, Python can run on an RPi without OS
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[15:56] <Tenkawa> hey
[15:56] <Tenkawa> MY123: huh?
[15:57] <__FNO__> MY123: Are you sure?
[15:57] <Tenkawa> can? I think you meant cant didnt you?
[15:57] <Tenkawa> how would you run it without os or at least a firmware interpreter
[15:58] <MY123> __FNO__, I'm sure because I did it
[15:58] <Tenkawa> MY123: "how"
[15:58] <MY123> (I wrote a minimal OS, just enough to run Python)
[15:58] <MY123> Tenkawa, answer just above
[15:58] <__FNO__> ...
[15:58] <Tenkawa> thats not "without os"
[15:58] <__FNO__> minimal linux?
[15:59] <McBride36> "arch"
[15:59] <Tenkawa> minimal is still an os and thats a very important distinction
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[15:59] <__FNO__> look at this: https://us.pycon.org/2015/schedule/presentation/378/ :)
[15:59] <MY123> Tenkawa, the kernel is no more than a few kilobytes
[16:00] <Tenkawa> so?
[16:00] <MY123> (and Python runs in kernel mode)
[16:00] <Tenkawa> do you still use libraries and a userland?
[16:00] <MY123> Tenkawa, no
[16:00] <McBride36> speaking of minimal and python, anyone see that micropython running on the esp8266
[16:00] <Tenkawa> nice
[16:00] <MY123> Tenkawa, it's a newlib C library adapted for bare metal with FatFS
[16:01] <Tenkawa> ahh
[16:01] * Tenkawa works on his normal kernel
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[16:02] <Tenkawa> uclibc would be nice
[16:02] <Tenkawa> if its still maintained
[16:02] <Tenkawa> i'm a bit behind
[16:02] <MY123> Tenkawa, I'm porting Python for the VideoCore right now
[16:02] <Tenkawa> oh very niice
[16:02] <MY123> Tenkawa, after I succeed to port Java
[16:02] <Tenkawa> er nice
[16:02] <ThinkingofPython> What are some good themes for Raspian?
[16:02] <ThinkingofPython> Any themes to make it look like mac?
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[16:03] <MY123> ThinkingofPython, it's just a Linux
[16:03] <MY123> with GNU userland
[16:04] <ThinkingofPython> Sorry, what?
[16:04] <ThinkingofPython> What are some good themes for Raspian?
[16:04] <McBride36> ThinkingofPython, buy an old mac, take out guts and put in rpi
[16:05] <ThinkingofPython> That wouldn't do anything.
[16:05] <__FNO__> just themes? or another DE?
[16:05] <ThinkingofPython> Theme, as in software, not hardware.
[16:05] <ThinkingofPython> Something to make the desktop look differently
[16:06] <ThinkingofPython> http://gnome-look.org/
[16:06] <ThinkingofPython> Like those.
[16:06] <__FNO__> gnome is too large for rpi :(
[16:06] <ThinkingofPython> I'll rephrase again.
[16:06] <ThinkingofPython> Im not looking to put GNOME on the Pi2.
[16:06] <ThinkingofPython> I'm looking for a theme.
[16:06] <ThinkingofPython> Something to change the look of the desktop.
[16:06] <ThinkingofPython> Like a skin.
[16:07] <ThinkingofPython> Not a wallpaper either.
[16:07] <ThinkingofPython> Like this: Here's an OSX theme for Ubuntu: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_c2S1BSVDWk/UJT9i0uSy-I/AAAAAAAAAmo/xMohiDFpKaI/s1000/mac-7.jpg
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[16:08] <Tenkawa> McBride36: I've thought about putting an rpi board in some old stereo cases
[16:09] <McBride36> go for it
[16:15] <ThinkingofPython> Anyone know?
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[16:16] <__FNO__> dont konw :(
[16:16] <__FNO__> just like this: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=9098 ?
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[16:18] <ThinkingofPython> Thanks FNO, I'll check the link :)
[16:18] <__FNO__> in fact, I prefer the default theme of linux mint :)
[16:19] <__FNO__> I'm using mint now.
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[16:20] <ThinkingofPython> Hmm, I wonder if I could somehow just download an LXDE theme
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[16:21] <ThinkingofPython> and use it that way. I'm actually not looking for something "raspberry flavored" (heh)
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[16:23] <TheLostAdmin> ThinkingofPython, TWM (the really old window manager for X) looks remarkably like the old black-and-white MacOS if you want a retro theme. It might be a challenge finding and equally old file manager and icon manager to go with it but you could have a nice MacOS look if you tried.
[16:24] <jer> mwm you mean? that thing still exists?
[16:24] <TheLostAdmin> no TWM. MWM was part of Motif and is far fancier than TWM
[16:24] <jer> used to drive me nuts when i forgot to change my .xinitrc back in the 90s and that popped up. heh
[16:25] <ThinkingofPython> Hmm, I may try that Lost Admin
[16:25] <jer> ah right, getting them mixed up
[16:25] <ThinkingofPython> I was looking for something newer, however.
[16:25] <ThinkingofPython> Like the many Gnome and KDE (I think) OSX skins you can find online
[16:25] <ThinkingofPython> It'd just work better for my setup
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[16:28] <ThinkingofPython> Would any LXDE theme work? Or would it need to be pi compatible?
[16:32] <__FNO__> Let's abandon desktop for console :-)
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[16:32] <Tenkawa> yay.. 4.0.3 kernel
[16:33] <__FNO__> have you updated to kernel 4.0? what about it?
[16:33] <Tenkawa> i'm running 4.0.3 on my atom box
[16:33] <Tenkawa> this tablet/notebook i'm typing from
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[16:35] <TheLostAdmin> what does the 4.0 kernel offer that would make a difference on my Pi?
[16:35] <Froolap> it's new
[16:35] <TheLostAdmin> so
[16:35] <hosler> does it have vc4 drivers?
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[16:36] <Froolap> new is always better. You gotta upgrade or you are behind the times. get with the flow. don't ask why just follow the herd.
[16:36] <Tenkawa> Froolap: that battery just doesnt have the mah
[16:36] <hosler> or use a kernel that works and never upgrade
[16:36] <Tenkawa> Froolap: i can get about 5 hrs consistently at best
[16:36] <Froolap> Tenkawa: sorry to hear that.
[16:37] <Tenkawa> Froolap: its at least small and useable though so I have a toy
[16:37] <TheLostAdmin> Ah, you must be a true member of the GNU HURD, Froolap. Congratulations.
[16:38] <ThinkingofPython> I'm currently using the Pi2 with a Lapdock Bionic
[16:38] <Froolap> No, I'm just disgusted with the automatic updates, always gotta update, no matter what it is....
[16:38] <ThinkingofPython> Going to be connecting a Li-po and touch screen to the pi2 soon as well
[16:38] <__FNO__> looking forward to GNU HURD :)
[16:38] <ThinkingofPython> So its more like a Tablet that can also be a laptop :)
[16:38] <Froolap> doesn't matter if it's windows, linux, android, flash, etc
[16:38] <ThinkingofPython> Will cost me $100 in total. $40 for the Pi2, $30 for the lapdock, $15 for touch screen and $15 for cables
[16:38] <Tenkawa> ThinkingofPython: thats what my winbook is.. a tablet that thinks its a laptop
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[16:39] <ThinkingofPython> Nice Tenkawa
[16:39] <Froolap> If it's an update then blindly accept it and wake up in the morning to find that your toaster over has been reprogrammed to attack you.
[16:39] <Tenkawa> yeah I like it
[16:39] <ThinkingofPython> My Pi2 right now docks into the Lapdock and uses the lapdock screen
[16:39] <TheLostAdmin> I did catch your sarcasm, Froolap. I was throwing my own back.
[16:40] <Froolap> I know, I just thought that it needed more amplification.
[16:40] <Froolap> smile
[16:40] <TheLostAdmin> :P
[16:40] <TheLostAdmin> I do miss FreeBSD 4.3
[16:41] <Froolap> Tenkawa: you might want to see this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpAYDcW_Jx0
[16:41] <Froolap> I saw that one and was thinking of ya Tenkawa.
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[16:44] <Tenkawa> i'll have to watch at home.. no youtube viewer here atm
[16:44] <Tenkawa> TheLostAdmin: why miss it? I still have a freebsd box
[16:44] <Froolap> It shows in detail how to run the pi with solar panel plus battery backup....
[16:45] <Tenkawa> oh!!
[16:45] <Froolap> complete with micro keyboard and touch screen
[16:45] <Tenkawa> I'll definitely look at the chan log when i get home then
[16:45] <Tenkawa> that would be cool
[16:45] <TheLostAdmin> but is it running a 1990's release of freeBSD, Tenkawa?
[16:45] <Froolap> It shows assembly of the pi with case, and everything inbetween .
[16:45] <Tenkawa> TheLostAdmin: no.. 10
[16:46] <ThinkingofPython> Im actually surprised there aren't any Raspian themes/skins online D:
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[16:48] <Tenkawa> TheLostAdmin: unfortunately i still dont have a way to cross compile from linux to *bsd :(
[16:49] <ThinkingofPython> I figured by now the community would have created some LXDE skins and such
[16:49] <ThinkingofPython> If I knew how, I'd do it.
[16:49] <Tenkawa> ThinkingofPython: i dont even use guis on mine
[16:49] <Tenkawa> none of them
[16:49] <__FNO__> lol
[16:50] <ThinkingofPython> I use them on my Pi2, as it's my portable browsing and powerpoint device.
[16:50] <__FNO__> let's abandon gui for console.
[16:50] <Tenkawa> ahh
[16:50] <Tenkawa> __FNO__: i'd be fine with that
[16:50] <TheLostAdmin> I found an issue with that solar powered Pi video.
[16:50] <Tenkawa> TheLostAdmin: do tell
[16:51] <TheLostAdmin> He's got the solar panel hooked up to the Pi to keep it running, but the keyboard is wireless and he doesn't have a way to recharge the keyboard. So when that thing's battery dies, he can't us his otherwise fully functional computer.
[16:52] * Tenkawa wishes he could figure out which sensors this winbook actually can read
[16:52] <Tenkawa> TheLostAdmin: well thats a nominal risk
[16:53] * Tenkawa cant find any working battery sensor/monitor for this thing
[16:53] <McBride36> Tenkawa, i would suggest your tounge
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[16:53] <ThinkingofPython> So, could I put a normal LXDE or GTK+2 theme on the Pi?
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[16:54] <TheLostAdmin> I'm also somewhat confused about his use case: "having a computer with WiFi available in the jungle". If you are out in the middle of nowhere, how do you get wifi signal? If you can get WiFi signal, that means there's power around somewhere that you can plug into (perhaps without permission).
[16:54] <ThinkingofPython> TheLostAdmin It could be a WAN
[16:55] <ThinkingofPython> Like a government initiative to provide wireless connectivity, or even 3G/data
[16:55] <TheLostAdmin> WAN implies powered equipment nearby again.
[16:56] <ThinkingofPython> But possibly not equipment that is unlocked, or capable of powering the pi
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[16:57] <ThinkingofPython> Raspian supports GTK+2 themes/skins right? As it's LXDE
[16:58] <ThinkingofPython> Having Ubuntu's Ambience theme on it would be great, with the "app bar" (as pictured here) http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Ambiance+theme+for+XFCE+%28with+xfwm4%29?content=141027
[16:58] <ThinkingofPython> Pretty much exactly what I'm looking for
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[16:58] <MY123> Is the Raspberry Pi Model B 35$?
[16:58] <MY123> I see that there is still no price change for the B
[16:59] <ThinkingofPython> Or even a Win8 theme for LXDE: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/%5BLXDE%5DWinAte+-+Windows+7%2B8+Theme+pack?content=163150 Would either of these work?
[16:59] <Tenkawa> ok
[16:59] <Tenkawa> that was fun ... not
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[17:03] <Tenkawa> brb
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[17:05] <ThinkingofPython> Ive posted my question here as well: http://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/362fdg/does_raspian_support_gtk2_or_lxde_themesskins/
[17:05] <Tenkawa> wow I'm sleepy
[17:05] <__FNO__> Price no change, the price of model B is same as rpi2...
[17:05] <Tenkawa> not here
[17:05] <Tenkawa> where you looking
[17:05] <Tenkawa> ?
[17:05] <Tenkawa> what country?
[17:06] <ThinkingofPython> FNO, it should be $25 for a B+ soon
[17:06] <ThinkingofPython> https://www.raspberrypi.org/price-cut-raspberry-pi-model-b-now-only-25/
[17:06] <ThinkingofPython> However, I got my Pi2 + case + 16GB UHS-I Class 10 Micro SD + power cable + lapdock cables + wifi dongle for $40.
[17:07] <ThinkingofPython> Shop around :D
[17:07] <Froolap> You know what I would like to see for my pi that I don't see anywhere? An adapter that will let my power the pi from a floppy or hard drive molex port on my pc.
[17:07] <Tenkawa> yeh its 35 here
[17:07] <__FNO__> http://cn.element14.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Search?st=%E6%A0%91%E8%8E%93%E6%B4%BE&catalogId=15001&categoryId=800000002655&langId=-7&storeId=10183
[17:07] <__FNO__> :(
[17:07] <__FNO__> I'm in China.
[17:07] <ThinkingofPython> Froolap You could make one.
[17:08] <ThinkingofPython> FNO, I'm also in China.
[17:08] <Tenkawa> ouch
[17:08] <ThinkingofPython> Where abouts are you?
[17:08] <__FNO__> Shanghai.
[17:08] <Froolap> maybe someone could make one, I doubt that I know enough to, and there may be a good reason why it doesn't exist.
[17:08] <ThinkingofPython> You'd need a MOLEX female to Micro USB male, and maybe something to lower the voltage of necessary
[17:08] <ThinkingofPython> FNO, are you Chinese or a foreigner?
[17:09] <ThinkingofPython> I'm in Zhongshan, Guangdong
[17:09] <__FNO__> 我是中国人啦
[17:09] <Froolap> Looking at the specs, yellow wire is 5V..... so yellow and black should do it.
[17:09] <ThinkingofPython> Ah
[17:09] <ThinkingofPython> I'm a foreigner.
[17:10] <ThinkingofPython> Work in Teaching, and do some QA/Testing for a Game developer on the side, among some other programming stuff, and uni.
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[17:10] <Froolap> ThinkingofPython: foreigner is a rock band. I'm not a member.
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[17:10] <ThinkingofPython> lol, a foreigner as in a Laowai, Waigoren, Guiluo
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[17:11] <Tenkawa> darnit
[17:11] <Tenkawa> need to pick up another pi2
[17:11] <Tenkawa> hehehehe
[17:11] <ThinkingofPython> why
[17:12] <Tenkawa> to carry with my mobile gear (if you are asking me)
[17:12] <ThinkingofPython> ah nice
[17:12] <ThinkingofPython> Always nice to have
[17:12] <ThinkingofPython> I carry mine to school for when the computers break down
[17:12] <Tenkawa> i have a workshop bag with stuff to use wherever i'm at
[17:13] <ThinkingofPython> so I still have something to present on (I'm a teacher)
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[17:13] <Tenkawa> ahhh
[17:13] <Tenkawa> I'm a designer/sysadmin/dba
[17:14] <Tenkawa> hmm
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[17:15] <ThinkingofPython> Nice
[17:15] <Tenkawa> think the rpi2 has enough with a usb tv adapter to handle replacing a tv?
[17:15] <ThinkingofPython> has enough what?
[17:15] <Tenkawa> transcoding/display speed
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[17:15] <ThinkingofPython> If there's drivers and software for Linux (compatible with the tv adapter), then it should be.
[17:15] <Tenkawa> we only have digital signals now
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[17:16] <ThinkingofPython> I've OC'ed mine to 1.1ghz, and am powering it by a 1A adapter (lapdock) and it works fine with video.
[17:16] <Tenkawa> i might have to give it a try
[17:16] <Tenkawa> cool
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[17:16] <ThinkingofPython> However, you may run into driver issues and a lack of software for the usb tv stick.
[17:16] <ThinkingofPython> Im not sure if those are plugnplay or not
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[17:17] <Tenkawa> of course monitors are probably not as price point efficient as tvs
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[17:18] <Tenkawa> time for some music
[17:18] * Tenkawa fires up his genre for optima computing
[17:20] <Tenkawa> anyone seen this before heheheh
[17:20] <Tenkawa> [ 2.825809] ACPI Warning: Could not enable fixed event - RealTimeClock (4) (20150204/evxface-654)
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[17:21] <Tenkawa> might explain why i have no /dev/rtc
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[17:21] <Tenkawa> rtc*
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[17:22] <ShorTie> ain't no rtc on the pi by default
[17:23] <Tenkawa> this isnt a pi
[17:23] <Tenkawa> heheh
[17:23] <Tenkawa> its the winbook i'm typing from
[17:23] <Tenkawa> only happened in latest kernel
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[17:23] <Tenkawa> hpet is also going haywire
[17:23] <Froolap> that's the problem, if it were a pi it wouldn't have happened. :)
[17:24] <Tenkawa> haajaaa
[17:25] <Tenkawa> this is always the tricky part with no engineering specs for the hardware
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[17:26] <Encapsulation> can anyone empty their gmail inbox?
[17:27] <Encapsulation> this is annoying, a new message appears from the bottom for every one I delete
[17:27] <Encapsulation> did they change it? or is this a setting
[17:27] <Encapsulation> I need the satisfaction of an empty inbox
[17:27] <IT_Sean> dude... that's what happens when you have more than one page worth of email.
[17:27] <IT_Sean> connect up an imap client, then ctrl-a del
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[17:30] <niston> lol.. first, firefox crashed. now, the crash reporter crashes and restarts whenever trying to close it.
[17:30] <ThinkingofPython> niston That means it likes you.
[17:30] <niston> I know <3
[17:30] <TheLostAdmin> speaking of imap. Any suggestions for an appropriate lightweight graphic imap client for the Pi?
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[17:32] <Encapsulation> IT_Sean, you're right. I was so far behind on my email it was disgusting. I didn't even understand what was happening
[17:33] <Encapsulation> I thought they were coming from archives >_<
[17:33] <Tenkawa> brb
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[17:34] <IT_Sean> wow... that's retty speeshul there Encapsulation. Did you take a ride on the short bus this morning?
[17:35] <Encapsulation> lucky you have it =D
[17:35] <niston> Encap :D
[17:36] <Encapsulation> =D
[17:36] <niston> how goes
[17:36] <Encapsulation> going well, more progress daily
[17:36] <Encapsulation> trying to galvanic isolation board this morning
[17:36] <niston> got that isolator board?
[17:36] <Encapsulation> yes arrived last night
[17:36] <niston> nice!
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[17:38] <Tenkawa> touchscreens.. oh fun on trying to get these working without specs
[17:38] <TheLostAdmin> it's interactive today -> http://xkcd.org
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[17:39] <Tenkawa> hehehh
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[17:41] <Tenkawa> this darn tablet keeps telling me hpet is unreliable
[17:41] <Tenkawa> i need to figure out some way to stabilize it heheheh
[17:42] <Tenkawa> going to force it
[17:42] <Tenkawa> heheheh
[17:44] <Tenkawa> here we go.. brb
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[17:55] <TheLostAdmin> has anyone had experience using a USB tv capture/tuner on a Pi?
[17:55] <TheLostAdmin> If so, any suggestions on which USB tuners to avoid and/or recommendations?
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[18:08] <Encapsulation> niston, so this board will allow me to use the same power supply for both i2c boards, is that correct?
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[18:08] <Encapsulation> I just wanted to confirm before I wire it in
[18:08] <Encapsulation> I'm going to put it between pi i2c and the ph board
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[18:12] <niston> Encap: the board has 3v3, SDA, SCL, GND connections right?
[18:13] <niston> so yes in that sense it will allow you to power both boards through the Pi without having the boards interact electrically through probe and medium.
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[18:14] <niston> remember the schematic I put on imgur? use the board to isolate either eC or pH probe from the rest
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[18:17] <Tenkawa> Bilby: weather changing over there yet?
[18:17] <Tenkawa> its amazing out up here now
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[18:20] <Tenkawa> where did i teleport to
[18:20] <Tenkawa> this is surreal
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[18:22] <Froolap> blink
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[18:23] <Tenkawa> Froolap: nono... DON'T BLINK!!!
[18:23] <Tenkawa> know the reference?
[18:24] <Froolap> why? did I miss something?
[18:24] <Tenkawa> Dr who reference
[18:24] <Froolap> I didn't want my eyeballs to dry up and turn into crunchy little raisens.
[18:25] <doomlord> is there any downside to an rpi model B with in a camera application ... can its SOC capture/compress as fast
[18:25] <doomlord> ^ rPI 1 model B (vs rPI 2)
[18:25] <Tenkawa> doomlord: if its not a package get the rpi32
[18:25] <Tenkawa> er rpi2
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[18:26] <doomlord> i already have 2x rpi2 - i'm curious about getting a bunch of cameras for some kind of 3d capture
[18:26] <Tenkawa> then why get a b?
[18:26] <doomlord> so at present, with 2x rPI2, i shuold clearly get 2 cameras.
[18:26] <Tenkawa> or do you already have it too?
[18:27] <doomlord> i already have 2; however 4 cameras would give, say, 360 degree capture. 8 would give 360 degree capture + stereo. etc..
[18:27] <doomlord> i'm not committed to doing this.. just curious
[18:27] <Tenkawa> no.. what i'm saying is if you need new boards why get b's and not 2's?
[18:28] <Tenkawa> new/more
[18:28] <doomlord> ahh ok. perhaps old 'b's on ebay.
[18:28] <doomlord> i'm thinking with the rpi2 out, perhaps there will be cheap B's on ebay
[18:28] <Tenkawa> doubt "that" cheap
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[18:30] <ThinkingofPython> If anyone can help me with this, please do: http://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/362fdg/does_raspian_support_gtk2_or_lxde_themesskins/
[18:30] <doomlord> you're right it doesn't seem to be much of a saving
[18:30] <doomlord> 20 vs 30
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[18:30] <Tenkawa> yeah just order from ada/mcm/microcenter or your choice
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[18:31] <ThinkingofPython> The Pi2 is great.
[18:31] * IT_Phood is now known as IT_Sean
[18:31] <ThinkingofPython> When OC'ed it's sexy.
[18:31] <doomlord> yeah i didn't mind accidently clicking 2 purchases and getting 2
[18:31] <Tenkawa> i have 4 and going to buy more
[18:31] <ThinkingofPython> It's so lightweight, clean, efficient and RiscOS is mmmmmmmmmmmm
[18:32] <Tenkawa> i should put riscos on one
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[18:32] <Tenkawa> i wonder if minix/arm runs very good on a rpi2
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[18:35] <Tenkawa> ThinkingofPython: what is your riscos primary usage?
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[18:36] <ThinkingofPython> Just for messing about in BASIC.
[18:36] <ThinkingofPython> And to relive to glory days :D
[18:36] <Tenkawa> nod
[18:37] <rochadt> I'm having stability issues with my OC'ed pi2 tho
[18:37] <rochadt> not nearly as stable as my others
[18:38] <Tenkawa> you checked the memory card
[18:38] <Tenkawa> that can make a big diff
[18:38] <rochadt> I haven't. It's whatever shipped with the canakit so I assumed it would be fine
[18:38] <ThinkingofPython> rochadt How'd you OC it? What settings in boot/config.txt
[18:38] <ThinkingofPython> and to what speed was it oc'ed to?
[18:38] <rochadt> arm_freq=1000
[18:39] <rochadt> through raspi-config
[18:39] <ThinkingofPython> Mines at 1.1 currently, and runs fine. Set to downclock when the CPU reaches 75c, havent edited voltages, did core_freq 500 as well
[18:39] <ThinkingofPython> Set core_freq as well, rochadt
[18:39] <rochadt> yea core_freq is 500
[18:39] <ThinkingofPython> Hmm
[18:40] <rochadt> my old pi would stay up for months
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[18:40] <ThinkingofPython> Mine is: arm_freq = 1100, core_freq = 500, no voltage edit, or anything else.
[18:40] <rochadt> this one seems to crash at least once a month
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[18:40] <ThinkingofPython> Could be your SD card.
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[18:40] <ThinkingofPython> I'm using a UHS-I Class 10 Micro SD.
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[18:41] * Tenkawa has learned the quality of the sd card makes a huge difference on his units
[18:41] <ThinkingofPython> Did you set sdram_freq?
[18:41] <ThinkingofPython> I did the first setting as listed here: http://haydenjames.io/raspberry-pi-2-overclock/ but did not set over_voltage, set temp_limit to 75 and initial_turbo to 30.
[18:42] <dyce> solve instable overclock --> http://www.overclock.net/t/1410604/build-log-water-cooled-raspberry-pi-mod-build/230#post_20647608
[18:42] <dyce> unstable*
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[18:42] <ThinkingofPython> lol water cooled
[18:43] <ThinkingofPython> Way overkill for 1000mhz
[18:43] <ThinkingofPython> But would be nice for 2000 ;)
[18:43] <GenteelBen> ThinkingofPython: I didn't see you at PyCon.
[18:43] * GenteelBen is now known as ThinkingOfPyCon
[18:43] <ThinkingofPython> heh, I'm in China.
[18:44] <ThinkingofPython> I'd like to request that you don't copy/parody my name please.
[18:44] * ThinkingOfPyCon ponders this request
[18:44] <ThinkingofPython> Just to avoid any confusion.
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[18:45] <dyce> ThinkingofPython: do you have access to xunlei
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[18:45] <ThinkingofAssemb> -_-
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[18:45] <ThinkingofPython> Of course, dyce
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[18:46] <dyce> is it really really great? :D
[18:46] <ThinkingofPython> But I use QQdownloader instead. It's compatible with more links, usually is faster too.
[18:46] <ThinkingofPython> I find Xunlei to be annoying, tbh. Even if you close it, it'll re-open when you go to download anything
[18:46] <ThinkingofPython> Even if you kill the process too.
[18:47] <ThinkingofPython> Their TV service is nice, but I use "Cat TV" and PPTV instead.
[18:47] <ThinkingofPython> Cat TV is a multi-host-grabber. Grabs content from like 20 different apps
[18:48] <ThinkingofPython> The name isn't Cat TV, but I cant translate the name lol
[18:48] <ThinkingofPython> The icon is a cat.
[18:48] <dyce> ThinkingofPython: lol i was googling it
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[18:49] <niston> haha http://xkcd.com/1162/
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[18:51] <dyce> im thinking of creating a usb sync/dump application for raspberry pi
[18:51] <dyce> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/1602-LCD-RGB-SCREEN-KEYPAD-expansion-board-FOR-RASPBERRY-PI/32342008701.html
[18:51] <dyce> with that piece
[18:52] <dyce> ThinkingofPython: you have access to taobao, you must be living the life :O
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[18:52] <ThinkingofPython> Yes, I use Taobao everyday.
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[18:52] <ThinkingofPython> Rare games, cheap hardware, cheap computer stuff, cheap pi ;)
[18:52] <dyce> tp-link mini routers, you can run openwrt
[18:52] <dyce> http://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.2.l41OJW&id=14260941433&ad_id=&am_id=&cm_id=140105335569ed55e27b&pm_id=&abbucket=4&sku_properties=
[18:52] <ThinkingofPython> Got my Pi2 + Micro SD (16GB UHS-I Class 10) + Case + Wifi Dongle + Cables for $40, free shipping
[18:53] <ThinkingofPython> What's the big deal about openwrt anyways? :p
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[18:54] <dyce> ThinkingofPython: very powerful router linux os
[18:54] <ThinkingofPython> What are the benefits of it?
[18:54] <ThinkingofPython> In terms of connection (speed, wireless range, throughput, MTU size, etc etc etc)
[18:55] <dyce> im not too technical with networking besides basic home networking. but usually the benefits comes from adding more features than the stock firmware on the router
[18:55] <Tenkawa> also some overhead removal
[18:56] <Tenkawa> ie ability to not have a web interface turned on
[18:56] <ThinkingofPython> If it wouldn't improve my speed, or anything, then I wouldn't fuss with it.
[18:56] <Tenkawa> and some features/stack options
[18:56] <Tenkawa> etc
[18:56] <dyce> so the stock firmware on the openwrt only supports some 3g usb sticks and openwrt provides a lot more
[18:56] <dyce> ThinkingofPython: it does have really nice QoS, which makes your net faster for your home
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[18:56] <Tenkawa> a lot more firewall flexibiity
[18:56] <ThinkingofPython> Hmm, it's already quite fast. When I move to my new house, I may get one and try it.
[18:56] <dyce> only a problem if you dont have 100mbit
[18:56] <ThinkingofPython> I already have a hardware firewall ;)
[18:57] <ThinkingofPython> Quarantine server as well :D
[18:57] <Tenkawa> and i just have fun tinkering... its what i do
[18:57] <dyce> they use the exact same router in some bitcoin ASIC miners
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[18:57] <dyce> with openert
[18:57] <dyce> openwrt
[18:57] <ThinkingofPython> Yeah, I thinker about as well, however, I'm in a government apartment for my job currently
[18:58] <ThinkingofPython> Can't mess with anything
[18:58] <dyce> also this is made from openwrt https://www.wifipineapple.com/
[18:58] <ThinkingofPython> They do checks
[18:58] <dyce> wifi penetration test
[18:58] <ThinkingofPython> In my new house, I'll give one a try. Thanks for the link dyce :D
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[18:58] <ThinkingofPython> mm Pi2 LCD is $4 here, touch LCD is $15
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[18:59] <dyce> whats the resolution on the touch?
[18:59] <ThinkingofPython> 480 by something
[18:59] <ThinkingofPython> Its the same as the adafruit one
[18:59] <ThinkingofPython> Actually a higher res than it
[18:59] <ThinkingofPython> I may make a site for people to do orders through for pi stuff. It's realllyy cheap here.
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[19:00] <dyce> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2015-New-Free-shipping-3-5-inch-Touch-Screen-TFT-LCD-Designed-for-Raspberry-Pi/32322503450.html
[19:00] <ThinkingofPython> Shipping shouldn't be too bad, as the stuff is small
[19:00] <dyce> im upset that shipping overseas would cost 2 dollars more >:(
[19:00] <Tenkawa> transport costs
[19:00] <ThinkingofPython> dyce ah yes, it's the same as that one.
[19:01] <dyce> Tenkawa: china has some deal with their post office, very cheap shipping
[19:01] <ThinkingofPython> I love how that picture is misleading
[19:01] <ThinkingofPython> shows HDMI but isnt
[19:01] <ThinkingofPython> naughty naughty
[19:01] <dyce> yeah
[19:01] <dyce> i actually have a korean 10inch hdmi display
[19:01] <dyce> its the same resolution as ipad 1
[19:01] <dyce> nice little HUD
[19:01] <Tenkawa> nice
[19:02] <Tenkawa> which company?
[19:02] <dyce> Shimian
[19:02] <Tenkawa> cool
[19:02] <ThinkingofPython> http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z2k.6997417.0.0.ydXVGl&scm=12306.1.0.0&id=42229173273 Non-touch screen display
[19:02] <dyce> dont know if they still sell it
[19:02] <ThinkingofPython> for $5 CAD
[19:02] <Tenkawa> I might have to order one for one of my pis
[19:02] <Tenkawa> dyce: ahh
[19:03] <ThinkingofPython> I wish I could get a touchscreen overlay :(
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[19:03] <ThinkingofPython> Making this LCD into a touchscreen would be cheaper
[19:03] <ThinkingofPython> than buying one
[19:03] <ThinkingofPython> $5 vs $15
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[19:04] <ThinkingofPython> And I wish the Pi2 was compatible with Arduino displays
[19:04] <ThinkingofPython> Touchscreen arduino displays (also by GPIO) are cheap
[19:04] <dyce> Tenkawa: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Professional-10-inch-monitor-lcd-with-AV-HDMI-VGA-TV-New-LED-monitor/1929006092.html that would be the only alternative
[19:04] <dyce> but i paid similar price
[19:04] <dyce> but those 3inch ones seem cool
[19:05] <dyce> for the price
[19:05] <ThinkingofPython> Any information about pi's being compatible with arduino displays?
[19:05] <dyce> heres a 6 dollar with shipping http://www.aliexpress.com/item/3-6-inch-TFT-LCD-Display-Touch-Screen-for-Raspberry-Pi-B-Plug-Play-Sain-Smart/32342402250.html
[19:06] <ThinkingofPython> How can that be touch screen?
[19:06] <ThinkingofPython> There's no controller
[19:06] <dyce> oh
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[19:08] <dyce> ThinkingofPython: i wish there was a cheap taobao agent
[19:08] <dyce> but they all ship ems
[19:08] <ThinkingofPython> I may start as one heh
[19:08] <dyce> which stands for expensive method of shipping
[19:08] <ThinkingofPython> Does this look the same pinout as pi? http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z2k.6997417.0.0.ydXVGl&scm=12306.1.0.0&id=44131596889
[19:08] <ThinkingofPython> The last pic has the pinout
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[19:09] <dyce> ThinkingofPython: not too sure, im sure you can adapt it
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[19:11] <ThinkingofPython> oooooo http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.160.wdgB67&id=42647638814&ns=1&_u=g26kdifr6b8a&abbucket=5#detail
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[19:15] <dyce> ThinkingofPython: emu box?
[19:15] <ThinkingofPython> cheap enough to try ;D
[19:16] <dyce> how much is rent in government buildings?
[19:16] <dyce> need to take a taobao vacation
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[19:16] <ThinkingofPython> Free. Government provides apartments to companies that employee foreigners.
[19:16] <ThinkingofPython> employ*
[19:16] <dyce> wow thats amazing
[19:17] <dyce> i assume you speak mandarin?
[19:17] <ThinkingofPython> The school I work for employs about 20 of us, we get paid about $1000-1500 a month, plus free apartment, and bills paid.
[19:17] <ThinkingofPython> I speak Cantonese and a little Mandarin, same with my GF.
[19:17] <ThinkingofPython> She's fluent, I'm semi-semi-fluent.
[19:17] <ThinkingofPython> We live in Guangdong, so everyone speaks Cantonese here anyways
[19:17] <dyce> yeah i was looking at alibaba programming positions, all ask for mandarin speakers
[19:18] <dyce> even though the page was in english
[19:18] <ThinkingofPython> heh
[19:18] <ThinkingofPython> I also work on the side in sales, programming (I make games) and Game testing for a game developer
[19:18] <ThinkingofPython> The sales and game dev all speak chinese, but a guy who works there translates
[19:18] <ThinkingofPython> Places just want a foreigner, as it makes them seem more rich
[19:19] <dyce> government incentives?
[19:19] <ThinkingofPython> nah
[19:20] <dyce> i heard that on ebay the chinese sellers let the 99cent with free shipping go through, because the government will give them a rebate
[19:20] <dyce> on the materials exported
[19:20] <ThinkingofPython> They may get a tax write off
[19:20] <ThinkingofPython> But what most likely happens is that they have a business contract
[19:21] <ThinkingofPython> to send off x amount per month
[19:21] <ThinkingofPython> Or they sell so many that the cost of shipping doesnt matter.
[19:21] <ThinkingofPython> There's no government incentive as far as I know for that.
[19:22] <ThinkingofPython> I work in foreign sales part time (shipping stuff to North America and such), and they do FOB (send by boat, its really cheap, cheap enough for them to just not care about the shipping price)
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[19:23] <dyce> i heard that some employees (not sure if private or government) in china will basically match the salary to US standards for those who get US higher education
[19:23] <ThinkingofPython> No. lol
[19:23] <Mr_Sheesh> http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.0.Uh8R6z&id=42395019662 is an interesting (dot matrix) display for simple stuff; Pretty cheap too.
[19:23] <ThinkingofPython> Mr_Sheesh, there are some LCD displays cheaper :)
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[19:24] <ThinkingofPython> dyce, for example: My friend has a degree in Business, and CS.
[19:24] <ThinkingofPython> He gets paid $800 a month.
[19:24] <ThinkingofPython> Works for a big company as well.
[19:24] <ThinkingofPython> And he was educated in America.
[19:25] <ThinkingofPython> People just want foreign education here in China, as it makes them stand out from the competition
[19:25] <dyce> hmm, perhaps its for PhD?
[19:25] <dyce> but I suppose that is pretty good salary for the cost of living there
[19:25] <ThinkingofPython> Not sure, but I haven't heard much about that. My co-teacher has a PhD, and gets paid less than me. I have 2 associate degrees.
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[19:26] <ThinkingofPython> lol
[19:26] <ThinkingofPython> Yeah, cost of living is cheap
[19:26] <dyce> how much for boba
[19:26] <dyce> lol
[19:26] <ThinkingofPython> Buying 2 steaks, vegetables, potatoes, is about $2.50.
[19:26] <ThinkingofPython> Less if on sale.
[19:26] <dyce> thats great
[19:26] <dyce> I remember paying a buck for a 40oz beer in Macau
[19:27] <dyce> i forgot the name, wasn't too bad
[19:27] <dyce> probably equivalent of miller lite
[19:27] <ThinkingofPython> Yeah beer is cheap!
[19:28] <ThinkingofPython> Like, 50 cents for a 500ml bottle of 6 or 7 brands
[19:28] <ThinkingofPython> Chinese brands, but tasty :)
[19:28] <dyce> yeah chinese brands, i assume you cant get them in US so i guess i don't need to know the name
[19:28] <dyce> but pretty good for 1 buck
[19:28] <dyce> i assume macau is little more expensive
[19:28] <ThinkingofPython> Yanjing, Harbin, Tsingtao
[19:29] <ThinkingofPython> You can get those in the US at Chinese restaurants
[19:29] <ThinkingofPython> Or atleast you can in Canada
[19:29] <dyce> can you name a few of the 50cent, maybe ill remember
[19:29] <ThinkingofPython> Those are 3.
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[19:29] <dyce> oh
[19:29] <ThinkingofPython> Harbin, Yanjing, Tsingtao
[19:29] <dyce> i might have to see the picture of it with chinese label
[19:30] <ThinkingofPython> The name will be in English heh
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[19:31] <dyce> yeah i cant remember
[19:31] <dyce> what it was
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[19:35] * ThinkingofPython drinks Matcha tea
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[19:37] <Tenkawa> good stuff
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[19:37] <Tenkawa> although i like oolong better
[19:38] <ThinkingofPython> Matcha is realllyy good for you
[19:38] <ThinkingofPython> Like really really good
[19:39] <doomlord> can an rPI2 drive a 3840x1440p screen
[19:39] <doomlord> or even a 2560x1440p
[19:40] <doomlord> or a 2560x1080p
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[19:44] <ThinkingofPython> "I don't think this will be possible. 1920x1200@60 is the maximum we can drive.
[19:44] <ThinkingofPython> Also 2560x1440 is not a standard CEA/DMT resolution.
[19:44] <ThinkingofPython> If you really wanted to hack, you could set
[19:44] <ThinkingofPython> hdmi_pixel_freq_limit=300000000"
[19:44] <ThinkingofPython> Thats for the B+
[19:44] <ThinkingofPython> Not sure about Pi2
[19:45] * Tenkawa is drinking some chai now though
[19:45] <ThinkingofPython> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=5851&p=264245
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[20:04] <Encapsulation> can solder be too old to use?
[20:05] <Encapsulation> does it "go bad"
[20:05] <Encapsulation> flux core I think
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[20:08] <Froolap> does lead spoil?
[20:09] <Froolap> I've used solder that was decades old, though it does tend to oxidize a bit which can make it less willing to bond to some other types of metals.....
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[20:09] <Encapsulation> well I was wondering aobut the flux
[20:10] <Froolap> but if you get it hot enough, it will burn the oxidation off and melt the cmos chip next to what you are soldering.
[20:10] <Encapsulation> this solder is likely decades old
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[20:10] <Encapsulation> @_@
[20:10] <Froolap> flux is not a good thing for electronics.....
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[20:11] <Froolap> rosin core tends to get between the solder and the joint and prevent connection.
[20:11] <Encapsulation> So I should jsut use regular solid lead solder?
[20:11] <Encapsulation> I'm ab out to head to the shack
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[20:11] <Froolap> personally I prefer solder with a little silver content for electronics.
[20:12] <Encapsulation> I'll check that out
[20:12] <Froolap> I find that the silver bearing solder tends to bond with electronics quicker and cleaner which lets me pull the heat away from delicate electronics faster
[20:13] <Froolap> if you are going back to the shack, if you don't have a solder sucker, then get one. preferably plunger style.
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[20:14] <Froolap> you'll find it very handy to desolder electronic componets or repair your not so good solder connections.
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[20:14] <Encapsulation> I'll pick one up
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[20:14] <Encapsulation> they are blowing stuff out 80% off
[20:14] <Encapsulation> store closing
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[20:19] <ThinkingofPython> this is nice
[20:19] <ThinkingofPython> http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1-c.w5167656-7519284445.14.ilvGhr&id=41236354334
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[20:28] <dyce> ThinkingofPython: matcha green tea?
[20:28] <ThinkingofPython> Yes
[20:28] <dyce> i picked some up, soo bitter
[20:28] <dyce> not like matcha flavored pocky
[20:29] <Froolap> I can't read it, they are talking in sneeze.
[20:31] <ThinkingofPython> Thats such a nice add on
[20:31] <ThinkingofPython> Takes 1 GPIO and makes it 3.
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[20:31] <Froolap> yeah, I like the easy Moneymaking Board.
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[20:32] <Stephini> is there a way to install a zmachine emulator on my pi and ssh into that emulator?
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[20:33] <ThinkingofPython> I just wish that add-on didn't have so much white space.
[20:33] <ThinkingofPython> Could be much smaller
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[20:35] <hosler> leio: does pi2 make a big difference for gentoo?
[20:36] <Tenkawa> hosler: vs what?
[20:36] <hosler> pi1
[20:36] <Tenkawa> depends on what you're doing with gentoo
[20:37] <Tenkawa> in general i'd say yes
[20:37] <hosler> general usage
[20:37] <hosler> Tenkawa: you use gentoo on pi?
[20:37] <Tenkawa> no
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[20:37] <hosler> ok
[20:37] <Tenkawa> debian
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[20:38] <Tenkawa> however thats why "what" you are doing is relevant
[20:38] <hosler> if emerge only uses 1 core to calculate deps then i dont want to bother getting the quad core
[20:38] <Tenkawa> debian and gentoo could run the same app 2 diff ways
[20:38] <Tenkawa> hosler: i think thats a setting
[20:38] <Tenkawa> it should be if not
[20:39] <Tenkawa> why waste the cores if make can use them
[20:39] <hosler> 1 thread per core is usally how it works
[20:39] <Tenkawa> that would be a big oversite
[20:39] <hosler> wait what
[20:39] <Tenkawa> hosler: yes my point is to utilize them efficiently
[20:39] <hosler> 1 thread can make use of two different cores?
[20:39] <hosler> without spawning more threads?
[20:40] <Tenkawa> no.. however you can run multiple targets efficiently if you got enough cores
[20:40] <hosler> what
[20:40] <Tenkawa> ie 4 cores spread across 2-4 diff make targets if you dont need all cores dedicated at once
[20:41] <hosler> what do you mean by targets?
[20:41] <Tenkawa> make -j equivilent
[20:41] <hosler> oh thats for compiling. im talking about calculating deps before compiling starts
[20:41] <hosler> i already am offloading a lot of stuff via distcc
[20:41] <Tenkawa> that should be a simple /proc calculation
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[20:41] <hosler> ok i have no idea what you are talking about now
[20:42] <Tenkawa> ok.. whats the math you want to define?
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[20:42] <Tenkawa> we'll put it togethrer by component
[20:42] <hosler> apparently im too stupid to follow you
[20:43] <Tenkawa> no.. I'm probably badly misunderstanding what you are looking for
[20:43] <Tenkawa> doesnt emerge already calculate cores?
[20:43] <hosler> well really its a question better for #gentoo, but what im asking is if the emerge program will use multiple cores while calculating deps. im guessing no.
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[20:44] <Tenkawa> oh.. just for dep calculation
[20:44] <Tenkawa> doubt it.. cant see it saving much time either
[20:44] <hosler> emerge is just a python script that executes gcc in correct order
[20:44] <Tenkawa> thats a fairly simple 1 time routine
[20:44] <Tenkawa> wouldnt it just be building a btree once and then running it?
[20:45] <hosler> all i know is that it's O(n^2)
[20:45] <hosler> and it's horrible
[20:45] <Tenkawa> a finds dep b c d.. b finds dep y u i, c finds dep j k l/
[20:45] <Tenkawa> like that?
[20:45] <hosler> i think
[20:46] <Tenkawa> well that "should" be a one time calculation at the end however yes this seems better to ask #gentoo
[20:46] <Tenkawa> er end/beginning
[20:46] <hosler> i wanna see what leio says since i think he has pi2 on gentoo
[20:46] <Tenkawa> dependency mapping i'd think would be one and done
[20:46] <hosler> it's not
[20:46] <hosler> it's an ever changing landscape in gentoo
[20:47] <Tenkawa> i mean processwise
[20:47] <Tenkawa> when you run it .. it calculates 1 set and runs
[20:47] <hosler> oh yeah. it calculates it only once per emerge
[20:47] <floralshoppe> how long does linux kernel compile on rsbpi2
[20:47] <Tenkawa> right
[20:47] <Tenkawa> then multi cores wont help much
[20:47] <Tenkawa> floralshoppe: with the full module set or without
[20:47] <floralshoppe> full module
[20:48] <Tenkawa> floralshoppe: i can get a compile down to a fairly short time however my kernel is very tweaked
[20:48] <Tenkawa> the config
[20:48] <hosler> Tenkawa: do you have vc4 working?
[20:48] <Tenkawa> hosler: nope. i actually disable video completely
[20:48] <Tenkawa> dont use it
[20:49] <Tenkawa> I..
[20:49] <hosler> im struggling with wayland this week
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[20:49] <hosler> using fbdev-backend now, but i want to switch to rpi-backend
[20:49] <Tenkawa> hosler: errors or not working?
[20:50] <hosler> well im using other people's working ebuilds. so it's errors, but not crippling errors
[20:50] <hosler> working*maybe-working
[20:50] <Tenkawa> whats are you trying to do?
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[20:50] <Tenkawa> i guess i havent seen that specificly
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[20:57] <hosler> well today im trying to use leio's ebuild which adds some patches so rpi-backend.so gets built
[20:57] <Tenkawa> cooo
[20:57] <Tenkawa> l
[20:58] <Tenkawa> cool rather
[20:58] <hosler> it's like watching paint dry
[20:58] <Tenkawa> heheheheh
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[20:59] <hosler> only reason i care about graphics is because i found an old motorola lapdock in my closet. so i was like "why not"
[20:59] <Tenkawa> heheheh
[20:59] <hosler> im just a bored kid with too much time on his hands
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[21:00] <Tenkawa> nah... its called learning
[21:00] <McBride36> literally the best way to learn
[21:00] <hosler> yeah im learning that i dont know crap about wayland
[21:01] <Tenkawa> i find it to be
[21:01] <McBride36> break stuff and you have to fix it before your parents find out
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[21:01] <Tenkawa> McBride36: heheheeh
[21:01] <Tenkawa> just wish i could find the last part of this hardware
[21:01] <hosler> what you making
[21:01] <Tenkawa> i really want the rtc and sensors to work... if it has them
[21:02] <hosler> pi2 has rtc?
[21:02] <Tenkawa> hosler: making a winbook into a full linux box
[21:02] <hosler> nice
[21:02] <hosler> i just recently turned my chromebook in a decent linux laptop
[21:02] <Tenkawa> its what I'm typing from right now
[21:02] <Tenkawa> hosler: series 3?
[21:03] <Tenkawa> or x86?
[21:03] <hosler> dunno. it's a HP Chrombook 14
[21:03] <Tenkawa> i have one of the arm chromebook 1 laptops
[21:03] <hosler> x86
[21:03] <Tenkawa> ahhh
[21:03] <Tenkawa> mine is running debian
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[21:03] <Tenkawa> i like arm cpu stuff quite a bit
[21:04] <Encapsulation> niston, some issues still
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[21:04] <Encapsulation> niston, prior to the board install, ph readings are too variable
[21:04] <Tenkawa> darn... now i can see the battery but the capacty/etc is listed as unknown
[21:04] <Encapsulation> one read can be 5.66 the next 7.10 in my latest test
[21:05] <Tenkawa> so close....
[21:05] <Tenkawa> even seeis its lion
[21:05] <Tenkawa> uggh
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[21:05] <Tenkawa> so close
[21:06] <Encapsulation> niston, it's a submersible pump in the water! it's intefering with the probe
[21:06] <Encapsulation> even when its off
[21:06] <Encapsulation> bbiab
[21:06] <McBride36> Tenkawa is rubbing off on you Encapsulation
[21:07] <Froolap> you put your pi in a submersible pump?
[21:07] <ThinkingofPython> So, how do those GPIO pin expanders work?
[21:07] <ThinkingofPython> http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1-c.w5167656-7519284445.14.ilvGhr&id=41236354334
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[21:07] <ThinkingofPython> Like that
[21:07] <Encapsulation> Froolap, no the ph probe is in a bucket with some water
[21:07] <Encapsulation> I put a submersible pump in to circulate the mixture
[21:07] <Encapsulation> for accurate readings
[21:07] <Froolap> lol
[21:08] <Encapsulation> but the pump itself interferes somehow
[21:08] <Encapsulation> perhaps magnetically
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[21:08] <ThinkingofPython> Is there no risk of bandwidth limits or anything? (bottlenecks)
[21:08] <Tenkawa> McBride36: in what manner?
[21:08] <McBride36> you're the only person i've seen who uses "bbiab or bbiaf"
[21:09] <Froolap> harmonics
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[21:09] <Tenkawa> haahaa
[21:09] <Tenkawa> brb.. new kernel test
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[21:10] <Froolap> does the pump throw it off if it's unplugged?
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[21:10] <hosler> ThinkingofPython: using two pins to control (00,01,10,11) 4 pins
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[21:10] <ThinkingofPython> ah
[21:11] <ThinkingofPython> So, they'll work fine?
[21:11] <Encapsulation> Froolap, I'll try that right noqw
[21:11] <hosler> i dont see why not
[21:11] <Froolap> is it the physical presence of the pump? the electrical connection to the pump, or amybe a hand cranked egg beater has the same effect and it's watter flow/pressure throwing it off.
[21:11] <McBride36> yay python 3.5 on the roadmap
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[21:12] <floralshoppe> python 2 > python3.x
[21:12] <ThinkingofPython> Both are good.
[21:12] <ThinkingofPython> 99% of py2 stuff works in py3.
[21:12] <McBride36> print still throws me
[21:13] <ThinkingofPython> Yeah, the syntax is different.
[21:13] <Encapsulation> Froolap, I have new info
[21:13] <ThinkingofPython> Ive learned both, like 3 better.
[21:13] <Encapsulation> the pump interferes whenever its plugged in!
[21:13] <McBride36> barely different
[21:13] <ThinkingofPython> learnpythonthehardway.com/book great source.
[21:13] <Encapsulation> to my device, or to any outlet
[21:13] <McBride36> but just enough to throw a wrench into the works
[21:13] <Encapsulation> but when unplugged, no interference
[21:13] <floralshoppe> hardway is python 2
[21:13] <Encapsulation> so it must not be the magnet inside
[21:13] <Encapsulation> it's something electrical?
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[21:13] <ThinkingofPython> sorry. .org
[21:13] <ThinkingofPython> http://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/
[21:13] <floralshoppe> whats a good python 3 learning source
[21:13] <ThinkingofPython> Great source for py2 learning
[21:14] <ThinkingofPython> You could technically learn py2 and then just learn the syntax differences in py3
[21:14] <McBride36> floralshoppe, diveintopython3
[21:14] <ThinkingofPython> and the other stuff that was added.
[21:14] <floralshoppe> and the stuff that was removed
[21:14] <Froolap> what is this secret info that requires suspense?
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[21:14] <Encapsulation> Froolap, I just said it
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[21:14] <Encapsulation> I tried your suggestion of unplugging it
[21:15] <Encapsulation> no interference
[21:15] <Encapsulation> but plugged in to my device, or to the wall
[21:15] <Encapsulation> random probe readings
[21:15] <Encapsulation> even when the pump is off
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[21:15] <Encapsulation> so something electrical is happening ?
[21:15] <Encapsulation> I wonder if different pumps do it
[21:15] <Encapsulation> I'll try others later
[21:16] <Froolap> yes, I could see an electrical leak, but more importantly, I could see proxmity and electro-magnetic waves inducing a voltage to a near-by probe, which might be a distance measured in feet.
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[21:16] <Encapsulation> that could be a design problem
[21:17] <Encapsulation> more experimentation and research is required
[21:17] <Froolap> usually a submersible pump has two electro-magnets that make a regular magnet spin, and the magnet is attached to a rotor.... so those electro magnets.....
[21:18] <Encapsulation> thats how this one works yes
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[21:18] <Froolap> try it in a bath tub where you can put the pump on the far side from the probe.
[21:18] <Encapsulation> I'll try that next
[21:18] <Encapsulation> its interesting this also shows my device can't turn the pump off the same as unplugging it can
[21:19] <Encapsulation> when its going through the relay in the off position
[21:19] <Encapsulation> somethign is still leaking?
[21:19] <Froolap> or for extra joy, try putting the pump in one bucket and the probe in another bucket.... still same effect? what is the distance required to null the effect?
[21:19] <Encapsulation> the effect could even happen through the air gap between buckets you're saying?
[21:19] <Encapsulation> that would be interesting to test
[21:20] <Froolap> yes, if it's magnitism that is the cause.....
[21:20] <Froolap> if not, then it must be electrical.
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[21:25] <Froolap> electricity can do some funny things around water. take a saltwater aquarium I had.... It had 2 ac wall style swiches, one for the pump, one for the lights, and a single plug to the wall.
[21:26] <Froolap> turn on the pump.... fine turn off the pump and turn on the lights, fine., fine, turn on the pump and the lights, blows the circuit breaker every time.
[21:26] <Froolap> plug the aquarium into a different outlet.... every thing works as expected.
[21:27] <Froolap> why I got that behavior from one outlet and not the other when both outlets were tested for wiring faults I never could figure out.....
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[21:28] <Froolap> unless it was some really strange feedback from another device on the same circuit.
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[21:28] <Froolap> the electrician couldn't figure it out either.
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[21:33] <Encapsulation> hmm
[21:33] <Encapsulation> hopefully this isnt too much of a mystery
[21:33] <Encapsulation> experimenting in a bit
[21:34] <hosler> Froolap: houses usually have a few different circuits. the one you were using at first might have been under heavy load allready
[21:34] <hosler> like maybe the fridge was on it
[21:35] <Froolap> no, the circuit was tied to the kitchen, which wasn't in use except for the plugged in but not operating microwave, coffee maker.....
[21:35] <Froolap> and this was a every time thing, not a it works till the fridge starts running
[21:35] <tawr> Froolap,
[21:36] <Froolap> yes dear?
[21:36] <tawr> the pump obviously pulls mre power during startup
[21:36] <tawr> and flourescent lights do as well
[21:36] <tawr> most 120vac outlets are on a 20A branch circuit
[21:36] <tawr> but i'm sure you had extension cords and a few other things than an ideal branch setup
[21:36] <tawr> longer cords and long wire runs that aren't up to code cause voltage drop
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[21:37] <Froolap> If that was the case, then switching to a different outlet would blow the same power rated circuit breaker.
[21:37] <tawr> the running power of both the pump and lights are probably under 100w each (less than 1A)
[21:37] <tawr> no
[21:37] <Froolap> NO, no extension cords, no other things plugged in.
[21:37] <tawr> the way i read it, you said when they were both plugged into the same outlet, they would pop it. you moved them to 2 seperate outlets?
[21:38] <hosler> no water heater?
[21:38] <tawr> the biggest 'nono' i see from your logic is assuming your house is up to code and they didn't skimp on wire, which is always a bad and possibly deadly assumption to make
[21:39] <Froolap> The aquarium had a single power plug to go to the wall, and two wall rated 20A switches mounted on the back that went two two double outlet plugs on the inside of the stand.
[21:40] <Froolap> so that one switch throws one double outlet and the other switch throws the other double outlet, so that the lights could be turned on and off at regular intervals.
[21:41] <Froolap> and the pump could be powered off for replacement without disturbing the lights which upset the fish.
[21:41] <Froolap> in florida I'm more concerned with a water cooler than I am a heater
[21:43] <hosler> i meant for showers
[21:43] <tawr> inductive motors require 73% more power inrush give or take, not counting split phase (cap starting) style. fluorescent lights require 3-4x (iirc) startup current.
[21:43] <Froolap> but any way you want to slice it, a 2a pump and 80watt lights should not blow a circuit
[21:43] <tawr> without measuring load at the breaker without your load it's pretty much a guessing game
[21:43] <hosler> multimeter it up
[21:43] <tawr> i agree 100%. BUT, you have inadvertantly found a big issue in your house that could potentially be dangerous, Froolap
[21:44] <Froolap> if it were over power, it would have blown any 20a circuit breaker it was plugged into
[21:45] <Froolap> apparently the proximity of the flourescent bulbs to the salt water was inducing a voltage to the water.....
[21:45] <tawr> 2A pump = 5a startup, 80w lamp starting, maybe 200w startup = 1.5a. so you're only pulling 6.5A for under a second, and that's popping a breaker.
[21:45] <tawr> doesn't that concern you?
[21:46] <tawr> that's not what's happening Froolap
[21:46] <tawr> wait, when you said breaker pop, are you talking about house breaker or the little breaker on your aquarium splitter thing?
[21:46] <Froolap> yup, that's why I called the electrician, he measured the voltages, checked the wiring for faults, cross circuits, couldn't find anything.
[21:47] <Froolap> I'm talking about the house circuit breaker
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[21:47] <tawr> he didn't check for corrosion, branch current on that breaker/line, loaded voltage (sag), etc? the first thing I would have done would be replace that breaker with a brand new one of the same capacity and see if it still happens
[21:47] <Froolap> it did
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[21:48] <tawr> then something is very wrong. what was the branch current without the aquarium?
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[21:48] <Froolap> I don't recall that he told me anything than he doesn't see anything wrong with the wiring.
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[21:49] <tawr> that doesn't seem right, does it? since there is obviously an issue. i HATE lazy professionals.
[21:49] <tawr> at least if there's ever a fire you have paperwork proving he was the last one to check it out, so you can sue
[21:50] <Froolap> heh
[21:50] <Froolap> I don't have the aquarium any more.
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[21:53] <tawr> :D
[21:53] <tawr> I've seen some SHODDY electrical work Froolap
[21:53] <tawr> and even worse 'electricians'. i trust them about as far as I can throw them
[21:54] <Froolap> point being that electricity doesn't always do what you expect it to do. it's not a pet.
[21:54] <tawr> that's not entirely true... *points at cern and modern technology*
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[21:55] <tawr> we literally have control of electricity at the near atomic level
[21:55] <ozzzy> electricity is barely tamed at CERN
[21:55] <ozzzy> one cold solder joint and the genie comes out of the bottle
[21:55] <Froolap> tawn then according to you electricity doesn't cause fires or kill people without intent.
[21:56] <tawr> bingo
[21:57] <tawr> no intent, it's electricity!
[21:57] <tawr> ozzzy, lol, got me there. then again we're talking about superconducting magnets pumping thousands of amps around in a circle. god, i wish I could go see it once in my lifetime
[21:58] <tawr> i've seen an MRI quench and helped deinstall one years ago
[21:58] <tawr> and it got me hooked
[21:58] <ozzzy> I did a tour of Fermilab... it'
[21:58] <ozzzy> it's impressive
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[21:59] <tawr> ozzzy, :(
[21:59] <oy1r\mm> what causes ultra slow apt-get ?
[22:00] <tawr> ultra slow internet / sd card
[22:00] <oy1r\mm> card is fast and internet is slow but not 13.8 kB is 13 hours slow.
[22:00] <oy1r\mm> s/is/in
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[22:02] <tawr> haha, that's pretty bad
[22:02] <Froolap> wireless on conjested frequencies
[22:03] <brno0> hello
[22:03] <brno0> can someone help me to get a 4.0 kernel working?
[22:04] <brno0> its booting but the usb port and ethernet are not working
[22:04] <ozzzy> is there one for ARM?
[22:04] <ozzzy> guess there is... hmmm
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[22:05] <brno0> I build https://github.com/anholt/linux/tree/vc4-kms-v3d
[22:06] <brno0> I tried the bcmrpi_defconfig of 3.18 and selected the system type etc. according to bcm2835_defconfig
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[22:27] <Stanto> So you'll need the driver for the ethernet/usb chip I imagine
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[22:50] <brno0> is this CONFIG_USB_DWCOTG?
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[22:59] <hosler> brno0: use lspci to figure out what you need
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[23:01] <brno0> afaik there is no pci bus
[23:01] <sandman> I take it the RPi2 setting under Overclock Settings is basically Turbo for the RPi2?
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[23:03] <hosler> brno0: still should work
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[23:04] <hosler> brno0: actually ur right. lol. wont work
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[23:05] <brno0> :)
[23:05] <hosler> how the heck do you figure out what you need then
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[23:08] <hosler> linux has spoiled me
[23:10] <ShadowJK> um, lsusb?
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[23:11] <ShadowJK> what wait I am confused what is the problem
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[23:13] <tawr> lsusb
[23:16] <hosler> brno0: lsusb works
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[23:17] <hosler> too slow
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[23:27] <brno0> thanks its working now
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[23:33] <supersmilers> What OS would you guys recommend for using my Pi 2 as media center?
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[23:34] <Xark> supersmilers: OpenElec is pretty slick and painless.
[23:35] <supersmilers> I tried Openelec but it has issues with skins
[23:35] <tawr> skinning vs fighting with drivers, dependencies, compiling, etc seems like an easy decision
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[23:38] <niston> tawr: where do you live?
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[23:39] <Froolap> under a bridge
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[23:39] <niston> :P
[23:40] <olokoko_> Could someone help me: if I'm not able to see my pi with $ nmap -sn 198.1.0/24, what are my options? I sadly don't have an HDMI compatible monitor/tv :(
[23:40] <tawr> Texas, niston. Why?
[23:40] <niston> ah. bit far from geneva :)
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[23:40] <tawr> olokoko_, log into router
[23:41] <tawr> look at router dhcp log or 'current connected' list
[23:41] <supersmilers> maybe. but I'd like a variant of Kodi that support a skin called "Box". I like the skin because it look alot better than confluence. However, the Pi 2 HDMi cable I got from MCM supports up to 1080i but lacks 720pi support. My HDTV supports 1080i but there's no selection for 720pi in Kodi's settings.
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[23:41] <olokoko_> tawr, ok will try that, thanks!
[23:45] <supersmilers> I tried Raspbian+Kodi but the UI animations shutters when playing the movie. The movie itself plays smoothly.
[23:48] <supersmilers> Is there any fix for Kodi's UI animations shuttering while playing a movie?
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[23:56] <supersmilers> I guess I might have to reinstall raspbian...I'd like having iceweasel on it, or go for other Kodi OSes...
[23:58] <supersmilers> What are your thoughts on it?
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