#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2015-05-16

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[0:05] <supersmilers> I think I installed Kodi on raspbian the wrong way.
[0:07] <supersmilers> it didn't generate the "Input" usergroup
[0:07] <Xark> supersmilers: 720pi? I have never seen that, only 720p.
[0:08] * Xark notes pi doesn't even make sense, but I haven't seen 720i either...
[0:10] <supersmilers> my HDTV is one the older Full HD HDTVs where it has options for 720p, 720i, 1080p, 1080i, and PC mode
[0:10] <Froolap> 720i would be interlaced
[0:10] <Xark> supersmilers: So why not use 1080p?
[0:11] <Froolap> I suspect that you either need to select 720p or 720i, not both
[0:11] <Xark> Oh, you bought a bogus cable...
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[0:11] <hakermania> Does anyone know how to install readline PHP extension on raspberry pi Model 2
[0:11] <Xark> If your cable can do 1080i it should have the bandwidth to do 720p AFAIK.
[0:12] <Xark> hakermania: Same as any other Linux, I believe.
[0:12] <hakermania> Xark, php5-readline package is missing
[0:12] <hakermania> And online I can find it only for php 5.6 while rpi runs on 5.4
[0:12] <supersmilers> yea. but the Pi 2 couldn't output 720i nor 720p from kodi selection. the 1080i option makes the picture bigger than the TV itself, thus cropping Kodi
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[0:13] <Xark> supersmilers: Pretty sure there is an overscan adjustment option.
[0:13] <Froolap> then I suggest that you grow to like vlc instead
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[0:14] <Xark> hakermania: I see. Not sure. You probably already saw https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/27615/how-can-i-install-php5-readline-in-raspbian . Perhaps see if it is in Jessie?
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[0:15] <supersmilers> I disabled overscan because there's isn't GUI tool for overscan like in videogames where you can resize the smart area.
[0:15] <hakermania> Xark, do you mean to change my sources.list to include jessie pkgs?
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[0:15] <Xark> supersmilers: Well, that explains your cropped image...
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[0:15] <Xark> hakermania: Well, if it is in Jessie, you can do a full dist-upgrade.
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[0:16] <hakermania> Xark, what is the process of doing so? I did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade recently. My sources.list reports wheezy
[0:17] <Xark> hakermania: You do have to add one line to sources to get Jessie. I did it and it works quite nicely.
[0:17] <hakermania> Xark, care to share the line
[0:17] <supersmilers> Maybe. If only I can tell which part of overscan fields exactly to adjust so I don't end up overscan too much
[0:17] <Xark> I don't recall. I believe it was on the forums. Fairly obvious...
[0:18] <tawr> hmm
[0:18] <tawr> quick question guys
[0:18] <ShorTie> if you want only 1 thing out of jessie, it is best to pin it
[0:18] <tawr> i've been making debs for people ut of stuff i compile
[0:18] <tawr> but, it only works for the rpi2, what compile options do i need to make it work for the previous pi's?
[0:18] <supersmilers> I got a 40" HDTV
[0:18] <hakermania> Xark, thanks for your time
[0:19] <Xark> hakermania: Google finds https://sites.google.com/site/onmyraspberrypi/instal-pi/jessie
[0:19] <ShorTie> and before you do any changing in sources.list, backup your sdcard
[0:19] <ShorTie> it's irrevirable and can be messed up easily
[0:20] <hakermania> ShorTie, backup like in copy-and-paste sense
[0:20] <hakermania> ?
[0:20] <Xark> hakermania: As in 2nd SD card sense
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[0:20] <Xark> (or image on a HDD)
[0:20] <tawr> http://detonation.ddns.net/rpi-deb/
[0:20] <hakermania> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qheHaiMZK20
[0:20] <tawr> is my list so far
[0:20] <ShorTie> like in make image
[0:21] <hakermania> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGxwbhkDjZM *
[0:21] <tawr> it's a good idea to backup your image every now and again, especially if you've spent a lot of time modifying the os, compiling stuff, etc
[0:21] <tawr> because it would take a very long time to get back to where you were from scratch
[0:21] <ShorTie> win32diskimager is the easiest way
[0:22] * Xark recently had his get messed up (the updates were very confused because I did not have a "pi" user).
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[0:26] <supersmilers> Why OSMC have weird boot screen (the OSMC logo is tilted so much that I don't get normal pic) but the Menu and UI is fine.
[0:27] <Xark> supersmilers: My guess is because you aren't booting into 1080p like normal people. :)
[0:28] <supersmilers> I guess. Why wouldn't it boot to 1080i upon detecting that my HDTV supports 1080i?
[0:29] <Xark> supersmilers: Weren't you just saying you set it to 720?
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[0:30] <supersmilers> no it auto set to really low res like crt res (such as 1368? X something) and it fill up my HDTV screen
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[0:33] <supersmilers> is there a way to fix that?
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[0:35] <Xark> Probably. Have you looked in system options/preferences?
[0:36] <supersmilers> the system Options in Raspbian only gives "1368 X something" for some reason
[0:37] <Froolap> yes, to be confusing.
[0:37] <Froolap> have you checked your tv's edid?
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[0:39] <supersmilers> I checked it and it detected up to 1080i 30fps in edid but raspbian never give it in display options only "1368 x something".
[0:39] <Froolap> with the pi, it is important that the monitor be powered up before the pi is. geez, that takes me back to the 1980's when you had to power up the floppy, then power up the printer, then power up the modem then power up the computer, in that order of things weren't recognized.
[0:40] <supersmilers> I always turn on the HDTV before I turn on my Pi
[0:40] <Froolap> just a thought.....
[0:41] <ShorTie> my tv comes on when i power/reboot the pi .. :)~
[0:41] <Froolap> and checking the tv edid might give you some clues
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[0:41] <supersmilers> and my HDTV doesn't even support cec maybe that why?
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[0:43] <Froolap> cec != edid. edid = Extended display identification data
[0:44] <supersmilers> I think the HDTV gives out generic edid instead of unique one.
[0:45] <Froolap> the edid will tell you what display modes are supported and may give you more information than what's included in the manual.
[0:45] <Froolap> it may also indicate what modes are supported with the current connection.
[0:46] <supersmilers> maybe. I could try again. But what's the proper way to regenerate edid.dat with the one from the HDTV?
[0:46] <Stanto> EDID from televisions are usually utter junk
[0:46] * plugwash has also seen one TV that gave a perfectly good list of modes in it's EDID but then listed 640x480 as the "preffered" one
[0:46] <Stanto> You're better off telling xorg to just use something else
[0:46] <Stanto> Else you're making your own EDID and passing it to the kernel.
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[0:49] <supersmilers> like. xorg.conf has options but I haven't found them all
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[0:51] <Stanto> supersmilers: you'll want to look up the wiki for xorg or the man page then
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[0:51] <supersmilers> ok
[0:51] <Stanto> xorg.conf probs has a man page
[0:53] <Froolap> yum install monitor-edid.armv6hl
[0:53] <supersmilers> in fedora? raspbian uses apt-get
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[0:55] <Froolap> smile
[0:56] <supersmilers> yea?
[0:56] <Froolap> yeah, the package is avsilable for fedora. at least you have a package name to look for.
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[1:04] <supersmilers> How do I install straight debian to Pi 2? I'd like the exact debian support rather than raspbian
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[1:06] <ShorTie> my_pi_os.sh can do it for you
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[1:08] <supersmilers> too bad I have windows computer not linux
[1:08] <ShorTie> oh, your pi doesn't use linux ??
[1:09] <supersmilers> no I wanted to install debian to SD card so I can start up in debain
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[1:09] <ShorTie> yup, understand
[1:11] <ShorTie> but it's run from the pi to make any kind of sdcard or image you want for the pi
[1:12] <supersmilers> yea. But I have only One Pi 2 but I normally install os using win32diskwriter
[1:12] <tawr> supersmilers, you're missing it dude
[1:12] <tawr> you do the 'conversion' image ON THE PI
[1:12] <supersmilers> oh like using raspbian then use the script?
[1:12] <tawr> so you have the pi running raspbian, and use that to build the debian image. which is saved as a file. then you'd copy that over, and burn it to a different (r same) sd card.
[1:12] <ShorTie> only need 1 pi, 2 sdcards are nice, but optional as it can make a image also
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[1:13] <ShorTie> 'oh like using raspbian then use the script?' yes
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[1:13] <supersmilers> wait. If that's the case. then can it overwrite one SD card?
[1:14] <ShorTie> No
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[1:15] <supersmilers> can I just load up the OS and change sdcard during the progress and write it to the second one? like floppies could?
[1:15] <tawr> supersmilers,
[1:15] <ShorTie> nop
[1:15] <tawr> i do not know why you are having an issue with this
[1:16] <tawr> boot the pi normally on raspbian. you build the debian image. it gets saved as a single file. just like the one you burned on the sd card originally. it's saved on the rpi's sd card, in your home directory. you would then copy that to your windows computer, save it on a pen drive, put it on dropbox.. whatever.
[1:16] <tawr> then use that image to burn another sd card like you originally did in the first place.
[1:17] <supersmilers> oh. it saves it in the fat partition?
[1:17] <ShorTie> you got 2 sdcards and a usb adapter ??
[1:18] <supersmilers> i know ext4 isn't supported in windows. my tablet has microsd reader built in
[1:18] <ShorTie> no, it saves it on the ext4 partition, then you need to like winscp it over to windows
[1:21] <supersmilers> you mean like putty?
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[1:22] <ShorTie> sortta, winscp is a filemanger like explorer
[1:23] <ShorTie> where putty is a cli
[1:23] <supersmilers> ah
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[1:23] <ShorTie> those are the 2 things needed to work on linux boxes from windows
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[1:25] <supersmilers> ok. I guess I'll load up raspbian and use that script
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[1:27] <supersmilers> I just use the Pi's ip address and SFTP works like SSH?
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[1:29] <ShorTie> don't know, i use winscp
[1:29] <supersmilers> I'm pretty new to winscp thing
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[1:30] <ShorTie> it's not hard, but is nice to login as root
[1:31] <supersmilers> root? isn't the password the same as pi?
[1:32] <Sonny_Jim> There is no password for root
[1:32] <supersmilers> oh
[1:32] <ShorTie> by default, there is no root password, you gotta meke it with 'sudo su' then 'passwd'
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[1:32] <Sonny_Jim> This doesn't mean people can login with the username root and not supply a password, however
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[1:33] <supersmilers> ok.
[1:34] <supersmilers> I'll make dinner then do it
[1:34] <Sonny_Jim> WinSCP works over SSH, it's very easy to use
[1:34] <supersmilers> ok thanks
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[1:35] * Xark notes FileZilla also is very easy to use for SCP (and much faster over faster link).
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[1:37] <methuzla> i think root has a password, it's just set to something that the hash will never generate
[1:38] <methuzla> disabled vs. no password
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[1:40] <Sonny_Jim> Disabled is probably a better way to describe it tbh
[1:40] <methuzla> subtle but important, if there truly was no password, then yeah, anyone could just walk on in
[1:41] <methuzla> root:: vs. root:*: in /etc/passwd or /etc/shadow
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[2:05] <supersmilers> ho do I do it, using the script? I used wget but I can't find the location of the script
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[2:11] <supersmilers> anyone know how?
[2:11] <supersmilers> i wanted to run my_pi_os.sh
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[2:15] <supersmilers> ShorTie, How I do the script?
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[2:18] <supersmilers> I couldn't run the script on my pi.
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[2:21] <supersmilers> I don't understand how do I run my_pi_os.sh
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[2:23] <supersmilers> its spiting out different types of errors
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[2:28] <supersmilers> great. I have no idea how do I do this.
[2:30] <supersmilers> I want help with my_pi_os.sh
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[2:34] * supersmilers hello?
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[2:43] <supersmilers> I'm pretty new to my_pi_os.sh
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[2:50] <supersmilers> I gave up on debian I couldn't get it to work
[2:52] <supersmilers> any other ideas?
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[2:53] <supersmilers> Am I the only one talking here?
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[2:55] <supersmilers> ok. I guess I got no help here. I'm a little impatient.
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[2:58] <supersmilers> nothing?
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[2:59] <Froolap> ???
[3:00] <Froolap> I don't know what pi os.sh is.
[3:00] <supersmilers> It was Short_tie's debian installer
[3:01] <Froolap> uh..... noobs?
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[3:01] <Allenom> Hi.
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[3:01] <supersmilers> i wanted plain debian
[3:02] <Froolap> uh..... raspbarian is debian that's been compiled for the arm cpu
[3:02] <supersmilers> well, it doesn't have debian's official repo
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[3:02] <HotCoder> where my bros at?
[3:03] <Froolap> it's like saying you want a tornado in the middle of the lake. I'm sorry but it's called a water spout, not a tornado though the weather otherwise is exactly the same.
[3:03] <supersmilers> oh
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[3:04] <Froolap> it's not going to have debians official repo because things compiled to run on x86 cpu will not run under arm kernel.
[3:04] <supersmilers> but it doesn't have all packages available.
[3:04] <Froolap> but if you want to install things that won't work you are free to add the repo.
[3:05] <supersmilers> ok
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[3:05] <Froolap> no, not everything will run on arm, and even some things that will run on arm are not desirable to have on arm.
[3:06] <Froolap> you didn't buy a desltop, you bought a learning/project computer. you can't expect it to be a desktop full system, even if some screen rather look like one.
[3:06] <supersmilers> the reason I'm asking because I wanted a OS where I can organize my video library and have firefox clone installed.
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[3:07] <Froolap> so, organize your files in the filesystem, make directories... you can install firefox or iceweasel
[3:08] <supersmilers> I mean like GUI like kodi does.
[3:08] <Froolap> maybe you should have bought a laptop instead.
[3:09] <Froolap> and heave help you when kodi comes out with a new version that doesn't look the same.
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[3:09] <supersmilers> Well, I'm hoping i'd turn it into media center without stuffing up my tablet
[3:10] <Froolap> yeah, you can do that, but maybe not exactly the way you want to, you might have to settle for what works instead.
[3:11] <supersmilers> yea. Its little odd that kodi don't work as smooth on pi as it does on my tablet.
[3:11] <Froolap> not really.
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[3:12] <Froolap> and if you would try other tools then you might decide that you like them even better once you take the time to learn them.
[3:12] <supersmilers> It just shutters the UI animations when playing the videos
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[3:13] <Froolap> as I said days ago, you might want to try vlc
[3:14] <supersmilers> is there kodi official irc channel? and maybe for vlc
[3:14] <Froolap> you know more about your fixation on kodi than anyone else, go look for it
[3:15] <supersmilers> Ok
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[3:15] <NedScott> #kodi
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[3:15] <NedScott> ha
[3:15] <Froolap> typing /j isn't hard
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[3:16] <Froolap> I'm about 90% convinced he's a troll anyways.
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[3:16] <Froolap> there's options, he doesn't want to consider.
[3:16] <plugwash> you didn't even ask him if he had a pi1 or a pi2.................
[3:17] <Froolap> you mean this time? the last time, or the time before?
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[3:18] <plugwash> ah sorry didn't read back far enough
[3:18] <Froolap> <supersmilers> yea. But I have only One Pi 2 but I normally install os using win32diskwriter
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[3:20] <plugwash> <Froolap> it's not going to have debians official repo because things compiled to run on x86 cpu will not run under arm kernel.
[3:20] <plugwash> You do known debian's official repo covers a lot more than just x86 right?!
[3:22] <Froolap> I do know that ih the kernel headers don't match then it doesn't compile, and if it does compile, trying to run on a different kernel won't work
[3:23] <Froolap> I can't compile something on my desktop and expect it to run on my piunless I cross compile on my desktop to run on the pie, but then it won't run on my desktop
[3:23] <plugwash> erm
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[3:28] <plugwash> "kernel headers" don't matter much unless you are building kernel modules
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[3:28] <plugwash> obviously the CPU family and ABI have to match and the minimum CPU requirements have to be compatible
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[3:29] <plugwash> but it's perfectly reasonable to run debian armhf on a pi using almost entirely binaries taken from the official Debian repositories, the only non-debian bits you absoloutely need are the kernel and the firmware
[3:29] <plugwash> *on a pi2 I mean
[3:30] <plugwash> On a Pi1 you can't run debian armhf because the minimum CPU requirements are too high but you can run Debian armel if you want
[3:30] <Froolap> then you go help them, you can find them in #kodi. People have been trying to help him with the same thing for 3 days.
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[3:32] <plugwash> not in the mood for helping clueless noobs but that doesn't mean I like to see misinformation being pushed out
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[3:34] <Froolap> You can attack me all you like for doing my best to be helpful, that doesn't mean you can inspire me to care.
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[3:36] <Muchoz> Does anyone have any recommendations for streaming to the RPi? I'm moving apartments in september and plan on using a RPi that has been gathering dust to use as a control device for my apartment. I was thinking about a simple web server written in Go to serve static html that includes javascript for ajax requests that would make the Go script do something like starting a video. I know how I would do everything mostly, but I am puzzled on how I
[3:36] <Muchoz> should receive a media stream from my desktop/laptop sent from VLC.
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[3:37] <Muchoz> I was even thinking about integrating it into Slack.
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[4:12] <Tenkawa> hi all
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[4:14] <Tenkawa> anything new?
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[5:00] <ThinkingofPython> So, apparently if I install XFCE4 then I can use LXDE and GTK+2 themes/skins on the Pi2
[5:02] <ThinkingofPython> Is XFCE4 an entirely new OS, or just a desktop environment?
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[5:08] <beford> desktop environment
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[5:28] <ThinkingofPython> http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/10053/changing-to-xfce-from-lxde I assume thats the way
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[7:19] <pksato> http://www.righto.com/2015/05/the-texas-instruments-tmx-1795-first.html
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[8:19] <sgo11> hi, I am new to the pi. I just bought pi2. I did "sudo shutdown -hP now" to shutdown the system. and then, after unplug and plug the power again. the system will never boot anymore. why? is this normal?
[8:20] <tawr> no
[8:20] <tawr> so it won't turn on?
[8:20] <Xark> sgo11: Does it try to boot? What is the last thing seen on screen?
[8:20] <sgo11> tawr, the light is on. but I can not see any displays in hdmi monitor. I have no idea what's happening.
[8:21] <sgo11> tawr, after "sudo shutdown -hP now". the system is just off. screen is off.
[8:21] <sgo11> tawr, after unplug and plug the power again. nothing happens in the monitor. the lights are on. one red and one green.
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[8:26] <sgo11> tawr, after I took off the sd card and unplugin the power source. And then insert the sd card again and plug the power source. it seems working. weird. I will try to reproduce this again.
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[8:31] <tawr> that's really odd sgo11
[8:32] <tawr> that's the proper way to shutdown the pi.. shutdown -hP (h-halt, P=power-off)
[8:32] <sgo11> tawr, I can not reproduce this anymore. the system always boots after this.
[8:33] <tawr> the only thing I can think of sgo11 is you unplugged it BEFORE the system shut down
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[8:33] <sgo11> is that possible that I purchased a fake pi? can I verify serial number or something on official website?
[8:33] <tawr> and when you plugged it back in, it was fsck'ing the filesystems
[8:33] <tawr> before the screen turned on it fully booted
[8:33] <tawr> i doubt it sgo11 but email them would be the best bet
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[8:33] <tawr> i haven't heard of fake pi2's before
[8:33] <shauno> do you have any powered usb devices?
[8:34] <sgo11> tawr, I always follows the right procedure. I am new to pi but not new to linux. so. this is weird.
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[8:34] <sgo11> shauno, one wireless usb card.
[8:34] <shauno> hm, so probably just connected straight to the pi? rules out my guess then :)
[8:35] <tawr> sgo11, I didn't mean to insinuate anything
[8:35] <shauno> (I've had this before where a hub was "back-powering" the pi through the usb. so when power was unplugged from the pi, the pi was still powered)
[8:35] <tawr> it really is odd, but if you can't reproduce, 'quien sabe!'
[8:35] <sgo11> shauno, sorry, I don't really follow you. I did connect usb wireless card directly to the pi. nothing else. no usb hub.
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[8:36] <sgo11> anyway, it's working now. :)
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[8:38] <tawr> sgo11, he meant backfeeding power sgo11
[8:38] <tawr> some usb hubs will feed power backwards through the usb hub, and the pi can be powered frmo it's usb HOST ports
[8:38] <shauno> it was just a shot in the dark, and it sounds like it missed. don't worry about it
[8:39] <tawr> so say you have your pi plugged in normally from the micro usb port. you also have a usb cable from the front usb ports of the PI to the powered usb hub
[8:39] <sgo11> tawr, yeah, I knew that. I read that before purchasing my pi. there is no usb hub at all.
[8:39] <tawr> some usb hubs push power through the 'input' of the hub
[8:39] <tawr> so, if you shutdown -hp now. it turns off
[8:39] <tawr> you unplug the microcable
[8:39] <tawr> plug it back in, nothing happens
[8:39] <tawr> because it never reset, because it still had power through it's front usb ports from the hub
[8:39] <shauno> it's just the only time I've seen a power-cycle not cycle
[8:40] <tawr> only explanation i can give, which is what shauno said
[8:40] <tawr> since the pi never completely 'shut off' since it always had power (backfed and through the micro port).
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[8:40] <tawr> since shutdown -hp now shuts it down completely, and won't turn back on until you pull the power, then repower it.
[8:40] <tawr> but by pulling the micro power, it still had backfed power from the hub, so it never 'reset'
[8:41] <sgo11> well. that is not my case. I don't have a usb hub. I also moved the pi from one room to another.
[8:41] <tawr> gotcha, just a sht in the dark sgo11
[8:42] <tawr> i guess you could check dmesg log to see if it was fscking for some reason before bootup
[8:42] <tawr> the 'failed' attempt
[8:42] <tawr> i run headless, so i'm unsure if the monitor will turn on before that point
[8:43] <tawr> i'm having fun running my pi as a honeypot lol
[8:44] <sgo11> tawr, in the failed attempt, the system is not trying to boot at all. there is one difference. when it's working, the red light is on and the green light is flashing. when it fails to boot, the red light and the green light are both on. green light is not flashing at all.
[8:48] <tawr> odd bud
[8:50] <sgo11> anyway. this is the first time I use pi. hopefully, it will not happen again. ^_^
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[10:34] <HotCoder> hey tawr
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[11:17] <Keanu73> Oh noes..
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[11:19] <ShorTie> did it break ??
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[11:55] <sgo11> hi, I have setup my pi to use static ip in wlan0 interface. this is the configuration (including ifconfig -a output): http://hastebin.com/unegiwohex.sm it works. BUT in my router, I can see the dhcp server still assigns another ip address which is to my wlan0. This is weird. I have two ip addresses for my wlan0 card. how is that possible and how to fix this? thanks.
[11:56] <Encrypt> sgo11, A solution could be to set a DHCP lease
[11:56] <Encrypt> That would solve the problem
[11:57] <Encrypt> And I think it's the cleanest solution if you still run the DHCP server
[12:00] <ShorTie> just use your router to set a static ip by mac and leave the pi as dhcp maybe
[12:02] <ffffee_m> emulating raspi in qemu in ubuntu 14.04. any hint to get full network-support?
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[12:02] <sgo11> Encrypt, where to set a DHCP lease? in the pi or in the router? What exactly is that? thanks.
[12:02] <Encrypt> sgo11, In the router
[12:03] <sgo11> ShorTie, thanks. that will work. but I am trying to untouch the router.
[12:03] <Encrypt> sgo11, This way, the router will always give the same IP address to the Raspberry Pi
[12:03] <Encrypt> And you won't have any conflict as it seems to be now...
[12:03] <sgo11> Encrypt, ok.. I am trying to untouch the router. is that possible to fix this issue in the pi? I am using static ip, why the pi still queries dhcp ip address? this does not make sense to me.
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[12:04] <Encrypt> sgo11, Because for the router, the Pi has a dynamic IP adress
[12:04] <Encrypt> address*
[12:04] <Encrypt> But, you've just set a static one
[12:04] <Encrypt> I imagine, in the MAC <-> IP table, there are two IPs for the same MAC address
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[12:05] <Encrypt> However, DHCP addresses have a timeout
[12:05] <sgo11> Encrypt, hm... I thought the router would only assign an IP to a client only if the client is running dhcp client and querying for the ip address. not true?
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[12:06] <Encrypt> sgo11, Well, it was running the DHCP client before
[12:06] <Encrypt> But it seems that your router is lost :D
[12:06] <Encrypt> sgo11, Anyway, a DHCP lease will be a cleaner solution
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[12:08] <Encrypt> sgo11, What is your router?
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[12:08] <sgo11> Encrypt, what do you mean by it was running the DHCP client before? I setup the static ip directly without using dhcp at all. do you mean dhcp client is always running before the static ip gets called in debian?
[12:08] <sgo11> Encrypt, openwrt.
[12:08] <Encrypt> Hum
[12:08] <Encrypt> Weird then
[12:09] <sgo11> Encrypt, I dd the img to sd card. and then mount the partition and setup static ip. Then insert the sd card to my pi. In this way, the static ip is setup initially.
[12:09] <Encrypt> Ok
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[12:40] <Fooman2011> Hello I have to design a box to put a raspberrypi and other boards. I will print this box in 3D. But I need advices to think about a system to allow close/open this box multiple times. If I use screws directly in the plastic, I think that this will not work a lot of times. Any advices ?
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[12:42] <ffffee_m> a rubber-band around it?
[12:45] <Fooman2011> Not exactly, it's for a mobile device plastic box
[12:45] <Fooman2011> usually this kind of boxes are closed using screws
[12:45] <Fooman2011> but I don't have machines to prepare the hole for the screw
[12:46] <Fooman2011> So i'm looking for other ways
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[12:47] <ShorTie> ya, learn how to put screws in by turning them 'backwards' first
[12:48] <ShorTie> you can feel where the threads start by the bump/thump that the screw makes
[12:48] <ShorTie> that way you are not cutting new thread everytime you insert the screw
[12:49] <Fooman2011> Sorry my english is very bad, I didn't understand everything
[12:49] <Fooman2011> how that: "turning them backward" ?
[12:50] <ShorTie> like you are un-screwing it
[12:50] <ShorTie> you un-screw the screw to find the threads BEFORE you screw it in
[12:51] <Fooman2011> Currently I have a hole
[12:51] <Fooman2011> So I put the screw at the beginning of the hole
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[12:51] <Fooman2011> And un-screwing it ?
[12:52] <ShorTie> the first time you screw the screw in it doesn't matter
[12:52] <ShorTie> this is for 2+ times of putting the screw back in
[12:53] <Fooman2011> Ohw Ok undertood
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[12:53] <Fooman2011> thanks very much for this advice :)
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[12:56] <Fooman2011> ShorTie: Do you think that this kind of screw will work ? http://www.gotronic.fr/art-10-vis-auto-taraudeuses-2-2x6-5mm-6681.htm
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[13:11] <Tenkawa> hi all
[13:12] <Tenkawa> whats new?
[13:13] <Tenkawa> wow kernel compiles on the rpi2 when trimmed and cpu clock is set to 1mhz are fast
[13:17] <niston> wut?
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[13:18] <Tenkawa> niston: yep
[13:18] <Tenkawa> i am pleased
[13:18] <niston> 1mhz ???
[13:18] <Tenkawa> doh
[13:18] <niston> thats so 1984ish!
[13:18] <Tenkawa> 1ghz
[13:19] <Tenkawa> mis hit the kb
[13:19] <niston> ahhhh
[13:19] <Tenkawa> didnt even notice.. thanks
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[13:23] <Tenkawa> lets see if the 4.0 code in git is useable yet
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[13:25] <ThinkingofPython> Can I use this guide to change LXDE to XFCE4 on the Pi2? http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/10053/changing-to-xfce-from-lxde
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[13:26] <ThinkingofPython> XFCE4 is quite good looking, just wondering if it'd work.
[13:27] <Tenkawa> xfce4 is nice
[13:27] <Tenkawa> I like it and icewm the best
[13:27] <ThinkingofPython> Yeah, has an appbar at the bottom
[13:27] <ThinkingofPython> So, that guide will work?
[13:27] <Tenkawa> if i'm going to use a wm at all
[13:27] <ThinkingofPython> Its quite short, just wanted to make sure the Pi2 can work with it
[13:27] <Tenkawa> no idea.. i have no graphics atm
[13:27] <ThinkingofPython> ah
[13:28] <Tenkawa> i am text only
[13:29] <ThinkingofPython> I like how the apps are on the bottom http://cdn7.dottech.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/xfc41.jpg
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[13:49] <Tenkawa> any of you gotten the rpi-4.0.y branch to boot up yet?
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[13:55] <ThinkingofPython> well, Im gonna try xfce4
[13:57] <Froolap> I'll alert the media.
[13:57] <doomlord> xfce is my favourite too
[13:59] <Froolap> I haven't tried lxde, I was happy when xfce4 worked when gnome was too busy to work.....
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[14:02] <ThinkingofPython> damn lapdocjk needs charging
[14:03] <ThinkingofPython> Hopefully this guide works
[14:03] <ThinkingofPython> will try it after the lapdock charges
[14:03] <ThinkingofPython> XFCE4 looks much nicer, compared to lxde
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[14:09] <MY123> qemu-system-vc4 -M rpi2 -sd raspbian.img -kernel start.elf
[14:09] <MY123> :P
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[14:10] <MY123> still&always working on VideoCore
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[14:11] <MY123> (ofc the blob crashes halfway right now)
[14:12] <ffffee_m> rpi2 on qemu?
[14:12] <Tenkawa> thats neat
[14:12] <MY123> ffffee_m, more than that
[14:12] <Froolap> huh?
[14:13] <ffffee_m> with gpu?
[14:13] <MY123> ffffee_m, yes
[14:13] <ffffee_m> :)
[14:13] <MY123> ffffee_m, right now, the blob crashes halfway
[14:13] <MY123> but that's expected to change
[14:13] <MY123> :-)
[14:14] <MY123> (bad VC4 interrupt support)
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[14:14] * Tenkawa wishes he knew why the 4.0.y branch won't boot up
[14:14] <ffffee_m> ok. but nice. i am testing with qemu-system-arm right now
[14:15] <MY123> Tenkawa, mainline or RPF?
[14:15] <MY123> (mainline works)
[14:15] <MY123> ffffee_m, for what SW?
[14:15] <Tenkawa> really?
[14:16] <MY123> Tenkawa, it works with video output and USB
[14:16] <Tenkawa> foundation doesnt but mauinline does? that is just wrong in so many ways
[14:16] <Tenkawa> cool
[14:16] <ffffee_m> works more or less. just network with nat shoulb be bridged
[14:16] <Tenkawa> I'm using a wifi dongle and no video at all
[14:16] <MY123> Tenkawa, but there is no GPUaccel
[14:16] <ffffee_m> at the moment for raspbian or noobs
[14:16] <Tenkawa> MY123: doesnt affect me at all
[14:17] <Tenkawa> since i dont use the gpu at all
[14:17] <MY123> Tenkawa, that is for the RPi1, there is apparently no RPi2 code in the mainline kernel
[14:17] <Tenkawa> oh
[14:17] <MY123> (or I haven't found the right defconfig)
[14:17] <Tenkawa> will the rpi2 work with a mainlie 4 kernel with those things ?
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[14:17] <Tenkawa> er missing
[14:18] <Tenkawa> like i said I dont need them... just need the kernel to boot mostly
[14:18] <Tenkawa> will it do that much at least
[14:18] <MY123> Tenkawa, the RPi1 kernel works well, but my RPi2 is currently running Windows Phone...
[14:18] <Tenkawa> darn
[14:18] <Tenkawa> i'm on rpi2
[14:19] <MY123> (yes, not Windows IoT Core)
[14:19] <Tenkawa> oh well.. guess i'll stick to 3.18 for now
[14:19] <Tenkawa> darn
[14:19] <MY123> Tenkawa, 3.18 is LTS
[14:20] <Tenkawa> yeah.. whats considered dev on the rpi2 right now?
[14:20] <ozzzy> what's in 4 that makes it worth the misery
[14:21] <Tenkawa> ozzzy: because kernels are what I focus on
[14:21] <MY123> Tenkawa, 3.18 is current
[14:21] <Tenkawa> its my interest
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[14:21] <Tenkawa> and i run 4.x everywhere else
[14:21] <MY123> Tenkawa, so run Plan 9 nightly
[14:21] <ffffee_m> my next step is to chroot into raspbian and use binfmt_misc with qemu-arm-static as interpreter
[14:21] <Tenkawa> MY123: haahaaa
[14:21] <Tenkawa> MY123: rather do minix
[14:22] <Tenkawa> vs plan9
[14:22] <MY123> Tenkawa, it had full RPi2 support ten days after the availability of the Pi2
[14:22] <Tenkawa> very nice
[14:22] <MY123> Tenkawa, Minix3 works on the RPi2 if you want it
[14:23] <MY123> (I can share the patch)
[14:23] <Tenkawa> i know
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[14:23] <Tenkawa> nah. got enough linux to keep me busy
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[14:24] <MY123> Tenkawa, so why not uClinux on the VideoCorePU? :P
[14:24] <Tenkawa> 4.x mainline appears to be missing the dts that it needs too
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[14:24] <MY123> Tenkawa, there is the Pi1 dts
[14:25] <Froolap> I'm dizzy and confused.
[14:25] <Tenkawa> i have that one.. the 3.18 source though has a seperate dts for the pi2 though
[14:25] <doomlord> deos the rPI's compositor (hardware windowing) do blending
[14:26] <Froolap> with all the different pi, I'm waiting for someone to make the c3pi-oh
[14:26] <MY123> doomlord, yes
[14:26] <Tenkawa> Froolap: haahaaaaaaa
[14:26] <MY123> 2D blending though
[14:27] <doomlord> wow, neat
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[14:27] <ThinkingofPython> Seems like the Pi drained my lapdock battery even though power wasnt connected.
[14:27] <ThinkingofPython> usb and stuff was attached however
[14:28] <Froolap> backfeed=drain?
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[14:28] <ThinkingofPython> Pi2 doesn't have backfeed, right?
[14:28] <MY123> ThinkingofPython, it have
[14:29] <ThinkingofPython> ah, so its better to disconnect it all then
[14:29] <ThinkingofPython> Alright, will do in the future.
[14:29] <MY123> ThinkingofPython, if you plugged another source before the backfeed
[14:29] <MY123> only
[14:29] <ThinkingofPython> It just sat there with HDMI and USB connected
[14:29] <ThinkingofPython> but not power
[14:29] <ThinkingofPython> The Lapdock held its bettery for 8 months before this
[14:29] <ThinkingofPython> so Im surprised it drained it all
[14:30] <ThinkingofPython> charging now
[14:30] <Tenkawa> give it a full cycle
[14:30] <ThinkingofPython> Its had about 4 cycles, Tenkawa ;p
[14:30] <Tenkawa> full drain.. full charge without using?
[14:30] <ThinkingofPython> May have just been the Lapdock giving power to the USB port even though the Pi had no power
[14:30] <[Saint]> There's no need to do that.
[14:30] <Tenkawa> [Saint]: depends on the type of battery actually
[14:31] <ThinkingofPython> Hey __FNO__
[14:31] <ThinkingofPython> Ni hao
[14:31] <Froolap> ThinkingofPython: that's what I was thinking when I said backfeed
[14:31] <Tenkawa> Froolap: yeah my winbook does that
[14:31] <Tenkawa> even powered off it still pushes power through the usb port
[14:32] <Tenkawa> had an led stay on the whole time
[14:32] <Froolap> it might have been using power to "talk" to the hub if it wasn't trying to help power the hub....
[14:32] <Tenkawa> that was funny
[14:32] <ThinkingofPython> Why call it a winbook?
[14:32] <ThinkingofPython> Does it run windows on the Pi? :p
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[14:32] <Tenkawa> ThinkingofPython: because its from the brand called "Winbook"
[14:32] <Froolap> because nobody would buy a losebook
[14:33] <ThinkingofPython> ah
[14:33] <Tenkawa> ThinkingofPython: microcenter house brand
[14:33] <Tenkawa> tablet
[14:33] <ThinkingofPython> ah yeah I know that one
[14:33] <Tenkawa> runs debian nicely
[14:33] <Tenkawa> its what I use as my main desktop/laptop
[14:34] <Tenkawa> got a bigger asus if I need it however i dont bother unless i have to.. too heavy
[14:34] <ThinkingofPython> ah
[14:34] <ThinkingofPython> I have a Toshiba F60 Qosmio
[14:34] <Tenkawa> I'd buy a surface if it could run linux natively (it might be able to.. just havent looked into it much)
[14:35] <ThinkingofPython> GT 330M, I5 430M, weighs a ton
[14:35] <Tenkawa> I like the dock on these things too
[14:35] <ThinkingofPython> So am using the Lapdock + pi2 as my main "luggable"
[14:35] <Tenkawa> nice and detachable
[14:35] <MY123> ThinkingofPython, that's weak hardware
[14:35] <Froolap> I hate touch screens, I hate fingerprints on my monitor.
[14:35] <Tenkawa> MY123: depends.. for what I paid i cnosider mine strong
[14:35] <ThinkingofPython> My123, it was free.
[14:36] <Tenkawa> touchpad is the one thing this has that I dont use at all
[14:36] <ThinkingofPython> And the 330M is a 128bit GPU
[14:36] <ThinkingofPython> Can still run new-ish games (2013 and older) pretty well.
[14:36] <MY123> ThinkingofPython, Can it work well on a 4K display?
[14:36] <MY123> (I know that it doesn't)
[14:36] <ThinkingofPython> No point.
[14:37] <[Saint]> I splashed and spent an obscene amount on an i7 X1 Carbon ThinkPad
[14:37] <ThinkingofPython> 1080p is fine.
[14:37] <Tenkawa> MY123: its a notebook.. why bother?
[14:37] * Tenkawa cant even see those new displays right
[14:37] <ThinkingofPython> It runs games pretty well, heats up a lot (got an exhaust for it, so its alright), is great for programming
[14:37] <ThinkingofPython> was free. Cant beat that
[14:37] <MY123> [Saint], Xeon are cheaper for the high-end
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[14:38] <ThinkingofPython> The i5 is pretty fast, the 330M is 128bit GPU, and the memory is 6GB :)
[14:38] <ThinkingofPython> I make okay money here, but it all goes to Uni. I cant afford a new PC, so no point on buying a laptop that does 4k lololol. Would rather buy a desktop that is much better for much cheaper in the future.
[14:38] <ThinkingofPython> Like a i7 4470k with a GTX 970 build. About $800 here in China
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[14:39] <MY123> ThinkingofPython, I don't need 3D for the GPU here :-)
[14:39] <[Saint]> Sell a kidney.
[14:39] <ThinkingofPython> [Saint] I'm a sickly person. I need my kidneys lol
[14:40] <ThinkingofPython> Also have an Intel Atom based Sony Viao P ultra netbook
[14:40] <MY123> $slavery
[14:40] <ThinkingofPython> but its used quite rarely now
[14:40] <MY123> *modern slavery
[14:40] <[Saint]> You'll have one left..and if that fails, you'll already have a contact in the black market organ trade.
[14:40] <[Saint]> Its win win.
[14:40] <[Saint]> :P
[14:41] <ThinkingofPython> :P
[14:41] <Tenkawa> so..
[14:41] <Tenkawa> should i try to boot this mainline 4.0.3 kernel i just compiled?
[14:41] <niston> hah my atom netbook is reaching end of useful life
[14:41] <Tenkawa> fortunately it only takes me 2 minutes to fix if it doesnt boot
[14:42] <Tenkawa> niston: not mine
[14:42] <niston> just in time, as school is done
[14:42] <ThinkingofPython> Agreed niston
[14:42] <Tenkawa> niston: quad atom
[14:42] <niston> mine's only dual
[14:42] <ThinkingofPython> Like the Viao P is nice but the Pi2 is faster lol
[14:42] <niston> n255 or something
[14:42] <MY123> dual-Xeon here
[14:42] <Tenkawa> these quad atoms got some power to them
[14:42] <niston> I thought about putting DOS on it and a DOS IRC client, to use it exclusively as a chat board
[14:42] <ThinkingofPython> Got the Viao P for about $150 here, going to resell it on eBay soon
[14:42] <niston> but theres likely no drivers
[14:42] <MY123> (not used as it uses so much power...)
[14:42] <ThinkingofPython> People always pay good for a "palm top" style PC
[14:43] <ozzzy> I have an old Asus Aspire One that still does yoeman service
[14:43] <niston> might try put linux and BitchX
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[14:43] <Tenkawa> ozzzy: haahaa i got one of those ying around too
[14:43] <Tenkawa> er lying
[14:43] <ozzzy> mine runs 24/7 and it used every day
[14:43] <Tenkawa> i havent touched mine in moths
[14:43] <Tenkawa> er months
[14:44] <[Saint]> Heh. Moths.
[14:45] <Tenkawa> ok... going to try to boot this kernel
[14:45] <Tenkawa> lets see how bad it fails
[14:45] <[Saint]> Lots of then around my house right now. All around the lights outside, tapping on the windows and getting stuck in the screens.
[14:45] <[Saint]> The cats keep bringing them inside. >.>
[14:47] <Tenkawa> nope.. no dice again
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[14:50] <Tenkawa> oh well
[14:50] <niston> Saint mine used to bring in moss from the roof
[14:50] <Tenkawa> at least its easy to get the old kernel back online and running
[14:50] <niston> and tons¨ of it
[14:52] <Tenkawa> well I guess i'll wait to hear when 4 is ready
[14:52] <Froolap> 4 what? golf?
[14:52] <Tenkawa> 4.0 kernel
[14:52] * ozzzy hasn't compiled a kernel in years
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[14:53] <Tenkawa> hmmm... i'm reading others who have succeeded
[14:53] <ozzzy> I really should compile one for the pi... but I'm way too lazy
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[14:56] <Tenkawa> ahh hhaaa
[14:56] <Tenkawa> may have found something
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[15:01] <Froolap> is it contagious?
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[15:04] <Tenkawa> Froolap: if it were it might fix this firmware hiccup
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[15:11] <Encapsulation> I <3 C++
[15:11] <Tenkawa> hehehehh
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[15:23] <ThinkingofPython> I like Python.
[15:26] <Sonny_Jim> I don't
[15:26] <Sonny_Jim> Whitespace is for humans, not intepreters
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[15:30] <Berg> Hello folks
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[15:32] <niston> Sonny_Jim: except COBOL :D
[15:33] <ozzzy> enforced whitespace is inane
[15:33] <Tenkawa> cobol is fun :)
[15:33] * Tenkawa used cobol for 7 years
[15:34] <ozzzy> dinosaurs were cool too
[15:34] <Tenkawa> well.. i guess technically 5
[15:34] <Tenkawa> assembly was fun too
[15:35] <Tenkawa> apparently its making a comeback
[15:35] <Tenkawa> new os written it it i noticed
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[15:36] <Tenkawa> menuetos
[15:36] <ozzzy> a lot of our timing-critical communications routines were written in assembler
[15:36] <ozzzy> the rest in Watcom C
[15:36] <Tenkawa> nice
[15:36] * Tenkawa remembers watcom
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[15:39] <ShorTie> assembly is the root of all evils
[15:40] <niston> very interesting
[15:40] <Tenkawa> aww why?
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[15:40] <Tenkawa> why is it evil?
[15:41] <ShorTie> doesn't everything get converted to like assembly
[15:41] <ShorTie> when you compile it
[15:41] <niston> Tenkawa: is there an IRC client for it?
[15:41] <SpeedEvil> ShorTie: No.
[15:42] <SpeedEvil> Not all languages are compiled.
[15:42] <Tenkawa> niston: probably
[15:42] <niston> hmm
[15:42] <ShorTie> ok, but it still gets to assembly to run it
[15:42] <niston> hardware support is abyssmal though X:
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[15:44] <Tenkawa> bbl.. cheers all
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[15:48] <Froolap> ah, yes maybe my rpi2 deserves to have 2 hard drives.
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[16:15] <The_Borg> I am making a bottle.py 8 channel relay controller and I need the the web functionality of firefox but i cant find a firefox version that runs on rpi 2 so im using chrome which is very modern I dont like modern is there other solutions for me?
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[16:16] <The_Borg> PS: http://sourceforge.net/projects/raspberrypirelaycontroller/ not finnished yet
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[16:34] * Bilby wonders what The_Borg was trying to do
[16:34] <Sonny_Jim> Assimilate?
[16:34] <Sonny_Jim> That's what they generally do
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[16:35] <Bilby> <The_Borg> I am making a bottle.py 8 channel relay controller and I need the the web functionality of firefox but i cant find a firefox version that runs on rpi 2 so im using chrome which is very modern I dont like modern is there other solutions for me?
[16:35] <Bilby> Apparently even the born prefer "open" software
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[16:35] <doomlord> they're a communist collective, very much so
[16:36] <Sonny_Jim> Punctuaction is futile!
[16:36] <doomlord> although opensource is perhaps as much libertarian as comunist
[16:37] <k_j> out of my curiosity,what are the most popular rpi2 alternatives at the moment? odroid?
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[16:38] <k_j> are they working on android for rpi2?
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[16:43] <Berg> Poor The_Borg
[16:43] <Bilby> k_j, odriod is probably #2 yeah. android not soon as far as I know, but i haven't looked lately
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[16:47] <Berg> Bilby: The_Borg is making a timer set up for a raspbery pi to run a 8 channel relay to switch a solar system from daytime to night time mode
[16:48] <Bilby> Ah, interesting
[16:48] <Berg> its in the sf repo if you care to look
[16:48] <Bilby> I wonder why he had to use firefox, and chrome was too modern
[16:48] <Berg> <---the_borg too
[16:48] <ThinkingofPython> yay got xfce on the Pi2
[16:48] <ThinkingofPython> runs like a dream
[16:49] <Berg> chrome wants to do many unneeded things
[16:50] <Berg> plus firefox shows sliders on a web page correctly and chrome desides what way it will display them for itself
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[16:50] <Bilby> Haha yeah. The Pi always felt fast enough, but barely "enough". The 2 feels like a ferrari to the Pi's old chevy
[16:50] <Berg> correct
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[16:50] <Bilby> @ Berg ah. I wonder if midori woudl be a good middle ground
[16:51] <Berg> ill check it just needs to show web gizmos correctly
[16:51] <Berg> thanks
[16:51] <Bilby> yerp
[16:51] <Berg> there is a plague of bilby's out west
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[16:53] <ThinkingofPython> and XFCE4 can look like OSX so easily :D
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[16:54] <Froolap> aaww you can't run firefox on your rpi2? I can. :)
[16:55] <Froolap> course I don't use raspbarian either.
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[16:56] <Bilby> I'd like to run a browser with no GUI but that doesn't seem easy, if possible at all
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[16:56] <Sublim3__> Bilby, lynx w3m
[16:56] <Sublim3__> and I'm pretty sure others exist
[16:56] <Bilby> uuh, yeah I need a GUI mate
[16:57] <Froolap> The_Borg: which os are you running on your pi2b?
[16:57] <Bilby> I basically want a DIY chromebox available either on the Pi or on old PC hardware. closest i've found is using mint and chrome
[16:57] <Froolap> bilby look for lynx
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[16:57] <Sublim3__> well you might be able to run it in pure X
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[16:58] <Bilby> that's a thought
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[16:59] <Bilby> I keep trying to get this place to try using Pi2s but they have a bunch of old PC hardware and they're cheap / broke.
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[16:59] <Bilby> tl;dr nonprofits aren't profitable to do work for. irony!
[16:59] <Froolap> I didn't get a +o,
[17:00] <Berg> +o stands for orifice?
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[17:00] <Bilby> I'm hoping after they put in some of these tiny pc systems they'll fall in love in the idea with a computer that fits on the back of a monitor
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[17:01] <Berg> I rather like my supercharged no PI 2
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[17:01] <Berg> new
[17:02] <blonkel> http://pastebin.com/d6amMMgf any idears how to solve this issue?
[17:02] <Berg> the trouble with all the new ideas they have new keyboard methods that dont fit fat fingers
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[17:02] <blonkel> any suggestions are very welcome :)
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[17:04] <The_Borg> Im running the midori browser and it taking up to 10seconds the load a page from loacalhost
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[17:04] <The_Borg> seems extremely slow
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[17:05] <The_Borg> localhost
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[17:05] <Bilby> wow that is crazy
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[17:07] <The_Borg> Im not sure why its doing this
[17:07] <Froolap> The_Borg: which os? raspbarian? noobs?
[17:07] <The_Borg> when i connect to it over wifi from other pC its instant
[17:07] <The_Borg> yes
[17:07] <The_Borg> im using a bottle.py server
[17:08] <Froolap> never heard of it.
[17:08] <The_Borg> the other PC uses firefox
[17:08] <The_Borg> Well it take4s the cake as far as web servers for small jobs are concerned
[17:09] <The_Borg> raspbarian
[17:09] <Bilby> maybe yank all the CSS and see how it runs in chromium?
[17:10] <The_Borg> it runs ok on chrome
[17:10] <The_Borg> just need to find a light weight browser that i can suggest to use with my stuff
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[17:11] <The_Borg> chrome just has this weird idea it knows what you wona see rather then display what the web monkey designed
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[17:11] <The_Borg> Resistance is futile
[17:11] <Froolap> you can't apt-get firefox on the pi2?
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[17:12] <ThinkingofPython> XFCE4 on the Pi2 is so snappy
[17:12] <ThinkingofPython> runs like a treat
[17:12] <Froolap> smile
[17:13] <niston> The_Borg: Lynx?
[17:13] <Froolap> glad you are happy
[17:13] <[Saint]> Ubuntu on the Pi2 is Snappy.
[17:13] <Froolap> niston: lynx is a command line text only web browser
[17:13] <niston> yup
[17:13] <[Saint]> ...har har
[17:13] <niston> certainly light weight tho
[17:16] <The_Borg> you cant get firefox on raspbarian
[17:16] <Froolap> I wonder why.
[17:17] <The_Borg> do sliders show correctly on lynx?
[17:17] * The_Borg smirks
[17:17] <ThinkingofPython> Iceweasel isn't too bad
[17:17] <Froolap> no, lynx is text based, there are no sliders
[17:17] <The_Borg> i tried iceape it dont display correctly
[17:17] <The_Borg> thats why i smirked
[17:18] <The_Borg> anyway midori works but is slow
[17:18] <The_Borg> any other suggestions?
[17:19] <Froolap> fedora lol
[17:19] <The_Borg> new browser not new os
[17:19] <[Saint]> The pi just can't really cut it as a full featured browser.
[17:20] <Froolap> you didn't specify.... too late. I got my suggestion in.
[17:20] <The_Borg> yeah
[17:20] <The_Borg> it works great for what i want so im not too displeased
[17:20] <Froolap> yup
[17:20] <The_Borg> just dont like google chrome
[17:21] <[Saint]> What's wrong with Chrome?
[17:21] <niston> everything :D
[17:21] <The_Borg> do people realy install windows OS on raspbery pi?
[17:21] <[Saint]> Chromium is...meh. I quite like Chrome.
[17:21] <Froolap> It's shiney and hurts my eyes until it gets some rust.
[17:22] <niston> xD
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[17:22] <The_Borg> I dont like chrome because it like to tell everyone your online and where you been and wither you wash your hands after using the loo
[17:23] <The_Borg> its like ET
[17:23] <The_Borg> phone home
[17:24] <Bilby> the only difference between google and every other software manufacturer is that google lets you at least leverage all the data they're collecting
[17:25] <The_Borg> only if you give them your life story first
[17:25] <The_Borg> I rather like being able to download stuff without giving my email to verify
[17:25] <Bilby> only as much as you want to; you don't have to sign into chrome and you can use private browsing windows all the time if you wish. but to each his own
[17:25] <Bilby> ?
[17:26] <The_Borg> ever use facebook?
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[17:26] <The_Borg> they are the legends in getting your info without trying ...google is fast catching up
[17:27] <Bilby> for your application, why not just use webiopi and code a basic front end?
[17:27] <MY123> The_Borg, I use Windows on Pi
[17:27] <The_Borg> your correct in only as much as you wona give but at some point you get stopped unless you hand over info
[17:27] <Bilby> with facebook you are explicitly the product, not the customer
[17:27] <ThinkingofPython> I wish actual windows ran on pi heh
[17:28] <The_Borg> correctand like i said google is catching up with them
[17:28] <The_Borg> you do know resitance is futile???
[17:29] <The_Borg> like your phone and you laptop and PC everything about you is in them if you let it happen
[17:30] <Bilby> errr, right? that's understood
[17:31] <The_Borg> :)
[17:31] <Bilby> you get the benefit of lots of nicely integrated software that works cross-platform, google gets lots of metadata about you.
[17:31] <Bilby> you don't think every other company out there already does this?
[17:31] <MY123> ThinkingofPython, Windows RT CAN run on a Pi
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[17:31] <ThinkingofPython> really? How well?
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[17:31] <MY123> I managed it months ago
[17:31] <The_Borg> I know your correct and i like to limit how much they find out
[17:31] <The_Borg> Bilby:
[17:31] <MY123> ThinkingofPython, with the Windows X USB driver, quite well
[17:32] <MY123> Windows X=Windows 10
[17:32] <ThinkingofPython> Ah, what happens if no X usb driver?
[17:32] <ThinkingofPython> It wont support usb then? ;x
[17:32] <Sonny_Jim> Kinda useless if it doesn't support USB
[17:32] <ThinkingofPython> Got a link MY123? I'd be interested in trying this out
[17:32] <Sonny_Jim> No ethernet, no keyboard/mouse
[17:33] <MY123> Sonny_Jim, it supports USB with the Windows 10 driver if you change the version info
[17:33] <MY123> (an ugly hack)
[17:33] <MY123> It succeed a quick test
[17:33] <The_Borg> how big is win10 os in hard drive space used?
[17:34] <MY123> Thasan, 4,3GB on a microSD
[17:34] <MY123> *The_Borg
[17:34] <ThinkingofPython> MY123, do you have a link?
[17:34] <The_Borg> interesting
[17:34] <ThinkingofPython> Id like to read up on how to get Win RT on the Pi2.
[17:34] <MY123> ThinkingofPython, I wonder if I'm able to push that
[17:35] <ThinkingofPython> push?
[17:35] <MY123> The UEFI thread was removed by a moderator
[17:35] <ThinkingofPython> Ah damn
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[17:35] <ThinkingofPython> I'd love to try this out. I cant find any links showing its possible
[17:35] <Sonny_Jim> Why was it removed?
[17:35] <MY123> Sonny_Jim, I didn't get any PM
[17:36] <MY123> Sonny_Jim, it just got removed
[17:36] <ThinkingofPython> I want proof xD
[17:36] <ThinkingofPython> And how well does it work with RT apps?
[17:36] <MY123> ThinkingofPython, everything that doesn't need DirectX
[17:36] <Sonny_Jim> Was it about disabling/bypassing UEFI or something?
[17:36] <ThinkingofPython> nice
[17:37] <MY123> Sonny_Jim, there is no UEFI on a Pi2
[17:37] <ThinkingofPython> Could you re-host the instructions somewhere? Maybe reddit?
[17:37] <ThinkingofPython> Im sure /r/raspberry_pi would love it
[17:37] <MY123> ThinkingofPython, where is that?
[17:37] <ThinkingofPython> reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi
[17:37] <Sonny_Jim> I'm just curious why it got removed, what was the discussion about?
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[17:38] <MY123> Sonny_Jim, what is in the Windows IoT kernel.img
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[17:39] <MY123> (which is just a TianoCore with ACPI, really)
[17:39] <ThinkingofPython> MY123 will you post instructions there?
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[17:39] <MY123> ThinkingofPython, I don't have a Reddit account
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[17:39] <ThinkingofPython> Takes about 2 seconds to make one
[17:39] <MY123> I will read their CGU first
[17:39] <ThinkingofPython> No email confirmation either
[17:39] <MY123> (conditions)
[17:39] <Berg> pastbin
[17:39] <ThinkingofPython> yeah or paste2
[17:40] <ThinkingofPython> You can just use a name, fake email and pass with reddit.
[17:40] <Berg> http://pastebin.com/
[17:40] <MY123> ThinkingofPython, do you need something for real use or PoCs?
[17:40] <ThinkingofPython> PoCs?
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[17:42] <MY123> ThinkingofPython, ok
[17:42] <ThinkingofPython> Whats a PoC?
[17:42] <MY123> ThinkingofPython, do you know how to use DISM?
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[17:42] <MY123> ThinkingofPython, Proof of Concept
[17:42] <ThinkingofPython> Ah, well looking for something to use, but would be nice nonetheless
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[17:43] <ThinkingofPython> MY123. nope but I know what it is. I'm tech-capable, no worries. Link instructions in a pastebin, I'd love to read it
[17:43] <MY123> ThinkingofPython, after this, you will have a FrankenWindows
[17:43] <Berg> see what i mean no one wants to give out info if they dont have too
[17:44] <ThinkingofPython> MY123, that'd be nice heh. Im used to a win environment
[17:44] <Berg> eeerrrrwww
[17:44] <Berg> i don't feel well
[17:44] <MY123> ThinkingofPython, extract the drivers using DISM from the IoT syspart
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[17:45] <MY123> (you should probably do a sysprep /generalize /oobe if it was booted)
[17:45] <ThinkingofPython> Can you provide instructions in a paste? That way I can find the RT image, and such.
[17:45] <ThinkingofPython> www.paste2.org
[17:45] <MY123> ThinkingofPython, the RT image was took from my VivoTab RT
[17:45] <MY123> ThinkingofPython, and is 4GB
[17:46] <ThinkingofPython> If you could upload that on mega.co.nz so I could use it, that'd be great
[17:47] <MY123> ThinkingofPython, then add the HAL extension, DMA extension and a modded HAL to the RTimage
[17:47] <MY123> ThinkingofPython, then USB if you need it
[17:47] <ThinkingofPython> MY123, can you go to www.paste2.org and put the instructions there, Im on my phone.
[17:47] <MY123> ThinkingofPython, then set the BCD for WimBOOT mode
[17:47] <ThinkingofPython> and maybe provide a link to RT?
[17:48] <MY123> ThinkingofPython, and kickstart into Windows PE
[17:48] <MY123> (I assume that you will modify the boot.wim)
[17:49] <MY123> ThinkingofPython, I don't think that I'm allowed to...
[17:49] <ThinkingofPython> Pasting the instructions onto paste.org will be fine. Hosting the files online could be grey area, but it's in the name of science!
[17:49] <ThinkingofPython> ;D
[17:50] <raylee> IoT?
[17:50] <raylee> I've been experimenting for what seems liek forever
[17:50] <raylee> to get windows rt onto rpi2
[17:50] <raylee> you'd need to code a custom hal extension
[17:50] <raylee> with IoTCore, MS integrated the rpi2 bits directly into the hal
[17:51] <MY123> raylee, the W10 IoT HAL works fine with 9600
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[17:51] <raylee> not that i've seen
[17:51] <MY123> (I was surprised)
[17:51] <ThinkingofPython> my123 can you take a pic of it running? :)
[17:51] <raylee> i thought it imported stuff that didn't get exported by 9600's krnl
[17:52] <raylee> o.o
[17:52] <raylee> if it actually does work, then wtf was i doing
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[17:52] <MY123> ThinkingofPython, when I would have a camere
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[17:52] <ThinkingofPython> ok
[17:53] <ThinkingofPython> Is that all of the instructions, MY123?
[17:53] <ThinkingofPython> Or is there more?
[17:53] <MY123> raylee, and don't forget to copy NTHALEXTDMA*
[17:53] <raylee> um
[17:53] <raylee> that's tegra3 only
[17:53] <raylee> and doesn't get loaded
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[17:54] <ThinkingofPython> MY123 is there more instructions?
[17:54] <ThinkingofPython> where can I get an RT image :o
[17:54] <MY123> ThinkingofPython, from your tablet
[17:54] <ThinkingofPython> I dont have an RT tablet.
[17:54] <raylee> ThinkingofPython, or from winstore, find the ir5 esd
[17:54] <raylee> (google for ir5 armfre esd)
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[17:55] <raylee> uh, ir5 arm esd*
[17:55] <ThinkingofPython> raylee, let me know if you get this working with the instructions he gave
[17:55] <raylee> well
[17:55] <raylee> i just dumped the 10069 hal into 9600 ir5 boot.wim
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[17:56] <niston> I *despise* software that tries to predict what I want to do
[17:56] <raylee> oh yeah
[17:56] <raylee> i need to dump in the 10069 winload too
[17:57] <__FNO__> Oh, I means that it's time to bed for me... night :)
[17:57] <raylee> for kernel debugging
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[17:57] <niston> it utterly and completely fails, disrupting my workflow, costing me large amounts of additional time in repairing the problems introducted by the unqzualified guesswork
[17:57] <niston> so to all software devs: stop that nonsense! now!
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[18:00] <Berg> so your new smart fone always makes you have3 a vertical head to read screen ...what about if you wona lay down in bed?
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[18:01] <Berg> niston: your talkin about change for the sake of i can do it change and then i get my name in the coders list?
[18:01] <Berg> like removing the menu from things
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[18:02] <Berg> file edit view etc
[18:04] <Coded1> hello all
[18:05] <Coded1> I just got a Pi2 and was curious if there is a way to use GPIO to program an atmega32p
[18:05] <Coded1> it's not part of an arduino
[18:05] <ThinkingofPython> I wonder if Windows RT on Pi2 is possible D:
[18:05] <ThinkingofPython> No pics nor proof
[18:05] <ThinkingofPython> I'd love to try it
[18:05] <Berg> rpi.gpio
[18:06] <Coded1> theres quite a few tutorials on using the PI to program the atmega32p via arduino but I'm wondering if it can be programmed with out the arduino
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[18:06] <Coded1> https://oxygene.sk/2015/02/using-raspberry-pi-as-an-arduino-avr-programmer/
[18:07] <Coded1> ^ is one example of using the arduino
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[18:07] <Berg> why do you want to program the pi with a arduino?
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[18:08] <Berg> oops i read that wrong sorry
[18:08] <Coded1> ya no problems, I have a small blinking lights program I want to try out on the atmega32p
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[18:09] <Berg> what language are you using on the pi?
[18:09] <Berg> python?
[18:10] <Coded1> haven't committed to any yet but I am familiar with python and C
[18:10] <Coded1> python would likely be the one I try first
[18:11] <Berg> well im running a 8 channel relay using the PI with python and a web server bottle.py
[18:11] <Berg> it is easy for me a newbie
[18:11] <Berg> https://pypi.python.org/pypi/RPi.GPIO
[18:11] <Berg> i use that lib to program all the pins
[18:11] <Berg> it has a lot of functions
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[18:12] <Coded1> Berg, ty. I'll give it a shot
[18:12] <Berg> welcome
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[18:16] <sgo11> hi, I ssh into my raspi. how can I make it display non-english utf-8 chars? I did install the required ttf fonts. I don't have such problem in my ubuntu. this is just weird. the terminal can not display any non-english chars.
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[18:21] <Coded1> sgo11, have you tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" ?
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[18:22] <Coded1> sgo11, actually my bad that will only fix your time zone
[18:22] <sgo11> Coded1, yeah. :)
[18:23] <Coded1> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Locale
[18:23] <Coded1> sgo11, try that
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[18:23] <sgo11> my locale is set to en_US.UTF-8 which is the same to my ubuntu system. there is no issue in my ubuntu system. thus, there should be no problem in raspibian.
[18:24] <Coded1> did you set your terminal emulator for your locale?
[18:25] <Coded1> "xterm -en utf8" (replace 'utf8' with the one you want)
[18:25] <sgo11> Coded1, I am using ssh.
[18:26] <Coded1> http://perlgeek.de/en/article/set-up-a-clean-utf8-environment
[18:26] <Coded1> ^^^^ that one covers SSH
[18:26] <Coded1> not really sure why it's not working for you though
[18:28] <Sonny_Jim> Is the problem not with your SSH client?
[18:28] <sgo11> Coded1, does it work in your raspi?
[18:28] <sgo11> Sonny_Jim, I am using ssh in ubuntu. it shouldn't be a problem.
[18:28] <Sonny_Jim> Yes, but how?
[18:28] <Sonny_Jim> In the console, through xterm?
[18:29] <Coded1> I use PUTTY as my SSH client but I don't have an example of fonts that would recreate your situation
[18:29] <Coded1> maybe you could help me recreate the problem
[18:29] <Coded1> ?
[18:30] <sgo11> Sonny_Jim, how? gnome-terminal or lxterminal
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[18:31] <Sonny_Jim> what does "echo $TERM" report?
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[18:31] <sgo11> Coded1, you can try to create a file named 你好 . it will require the font ttf-wqy-microhei or ttf-wqy-zenhei
[18:31] <ThinkingofPython> sg011, you are chinese?
[18:32] <ThinkingofPython> I'm in China. Xiaolan, Zhongshan. Foreigner living here
[18:32] <sgo11> Sonny_Jim, where to run that command? in my ubuntu or in ssh session to my raspi.
[18:32] <sgo11> ThinkingofPython, yeah, I am Chinese.
[18:32] <Coded1> sgo11, actually it shows up perfectly on my raspberry pi via Putty
[18:33] <Coded1> I just have the standard Raspian image
[18:33] <sgo11> Sonny_Jim, it shows "xterm" in ssh session.
[18:33] <ThinkingofPython> Where are you located? I wish I could help you, but I just got my pi2 last week. Havent SShed yet.
[18:33] <sgo11> Coded1, that's weird then. I am using standard raspbian image too. I have two raspis here. and both have the same issue.
[18:34] <Coded1> not sure what to say
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[18:34] <sgo11> ThinkingofPython, hebei province.
[18:34] <ThinkingofPython> ah nice place!
[18:34] <sgo11> Coded1, this is just weird. I don't understand why it doesn't work.
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[18:35] <Coded1> not sure myself
[18:35] <ThinkingofPython> Picked up my Pi2 on taobao last week :) Such a treat
[18:36] <Froolap> maybe I'm stupid..... but.... <sgo11> my locale is set to en_US.UTF-8 wouldn't the en be english and need to be changed for your language?
[18:36] <Coded1> I was kind of surprised that it worked on mine
[18:36] <Coded1> Froolap, actually .... that kinda makes sense
[18:36] <sgo11> Froolap, no. that's not required. all my ubuntu system is using en_US.UTF-8 which displays Chinese fonts fine. they are all just UTF-8 chars.
[18:36] <The_Borg> my raspbarian uses the lxterminal terminal
[18:37] <The_Borg> that might be a issue a diff terminal program
[18:37] <Coded1> sgo11, type "locale -a" on your pi
[18:37] <Froolap> maybe the font just needs to be installed then.
[18:37] <sgo11> Froolap, it's installed...
[18:37] <Coded1> the Utf8 is setup as your default but still needs the other ones installed
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[18:38] <sgo11> Coded1, http://hastebin.com/oparofuhuq.avrasm
[18:39] <Coded1> try the same command on your Ubuntu box
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[18:40] <The_Borg> what terminal program is on ubuntu and on rasbarian?
[18:40] <Coded1> http://pastebin.com/awLSsUm5 << this is the same commands on my PI
[18:41] <sgo11> The_Borg, terminal problem is lxterminal. raspbian is using xterm (sshed from my lxterminal in ubuntu)
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[19:38] <Bilby> Hmm... it looks like it's pretty easy to run chromium in straight x-windows
[19:39] <ThinkingofPython> So, anyone try Windows RT on Pi2?
[19:39] <Bilby> the only problem with that is, chrome kiosk doesn't allow for tabbing which is kinda important. hrm.
[19:39] <Bilby> MY123 iswas, I think
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[19:50] <MY123> Bilby, is
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[19:53] <ThinkingofPython> MY123 I want instructions xD
[19:53] <ThinkingofPython> raylee was trying earlier
[19:53] <sgo11> the problem is finally fixed.
[19:53] <Bilby> well that sounds creepy lol
[19:54] <Froolap> I don't have MY123 installed on my system.
[19:55] <Bilby> apt-get install my123-free
[19:56] <Froolap> thanks
[19:56] <MY123> ThinkingofPython, wait
[19:56] <Bilby> make sure it installs the coffee and pizza dependancies
[19:57] <ThinkingofPython> ok :)
[19:57] <MY123> Bilby, I have/had a discussion with raylee
[19:57] <Bilby> aaha
[19:58] <MY123> Bilby, ask him
[19:58] <Bilby> the latest Ben Heck episode is a Rpi media center, itneresting
[19:58] <Bilby> for kiosks?
[19:59] <ThinkingofPython> I remember when I was a member of the Benheck forums ages ago
[19:59] <ThinkingofPython> Made a few portables :)
[20:00] <niston> thats the guy with the portable playstations, xboxes and such?
[20:00] <ThinkingofPython> Yes, Benheck is.
[20:00] <niston> right
[20:00] <ThinkingofPython> I made a portable Sega Genesis, and did some SNES mods on the forum
[20:00] <ThinkingofPython> agesss ago
[20:00] <ThinkingofPython> Like.. 2005?
[20:00] <Bilby> neat
[20:00] <ThinkingofPython> Im 23, got into this stuff ages ago, but havent touched hardware in years :(
[20:00] <Bilby> he has a show on the youtubez now, sponsored by element14. it's a bit hit / miss sometimes but overall an interesting watch imo
[20:01] <ThinkingofPython> Trying to reclaim the passion with the Pi2 to help
[20:03] <sgo11> Coded1, Sonny_Jim, I fixed it. To fix the utf-8/locale problem, I simply need to remove the line "#AcceptEnv LANG LC_*" from /etc/ssh/sshd_config in raspi. Some online articles mention this problem happens a lot when a newer system tries to ssh to an older system. I always use ubuntu (my favorite os) which is newer than the raspbian OS. Thus the problem happens. To fix it, simply disallow ssh server in raspbian accept env variables from clients.
[20:03] <Coded1> sgo11, Great to hear
[20:03] <Coded1> I'll keep that in mind if the same happens to me
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[20:05] <sgo11> Coded1, it took lots of googling to find out the real problem is. maybe that's why PUTTY in windows don't have this issue. PUTTY might be considered as an older system.
[20:05] <ThinkingofPython> sgo11, you have a VPN?
[20:06] <Coded1> sgo11, right on
[20:07] <sgo11> ThinkingofPython, not really. are you wondering why I can google here?
[20:07] <ThinkingofPython> yes heh
[20:07] <ThinkingofPython> I used to use clonegoogle.com and sssis
[20:07] <ThinkingofPython> but dont work anymore
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[20:08] <sgo11> ThinkingofPython, I am using shadowsocks right now. I used to using ssh tunneling, but it doesn't work well recently. so I switch to shadowsocks. basically the same thing. buy a server and create an encrypted tunnel.
[20:09] <ThinkingofPython> ah a VPS pretty much
[20:09] <ThinkingofPython> Nice
[20:09] <ThinkingofPython> I cant afford a VPN currently, most of my money goes to University and savings
[20:09] <ThinkingofPython> Someday I'll get one again, or buy a server or something
[20:09] <ThinkingofPython> I miss Youtube lol
[20:10] <Froolap> maybe I should get something to eat.
[20:10] <sgo11> ThinkingofPython, yeah. a VPS. it's very cheap. buy one in digital ocean or linode. about $5 per month.
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[20:11] <Coded1> ThinkingofPython, you should check out lowendbox.com I've gotten a VPS with 1 Core, 512MB RAM, and 100GB/month for 12/year
[20:12] <Coded1> $12CDN/yr
[20:12] <sgo11> ThinkingofPython, linode just gave me $50 credit through email to ask me to go back to use their service. I switched from linode to DO.
[20:13] <doomlord> whats the youtube experience like on the rpi2 at the minute
[20:13] <ThinkingofPython> Wow, lucky sgo11
[20:13] <doomlord> last time i tried the browser didn't handle embedded video,
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[20:14] <Coded1> I've tried Ubuntu Mate and FireFox, youtube works fine but 720p is a bit choppy
[20:14] <Coded1> that was on a RPI2
[20:14] <sgo11> ThinkingofPython, actually digitalocean has already given me about $100 credit.
[20:15] <ThinkingofPython> D: so lucky
[20:15] <Coded1> Here is one in LosAngles USA for $10/year http://lowendbox.com/blog/k9vps-256mb-for-10year-3072mb-for-7month-and-more-in-los-angeles/
[20:15] <sgo11> ThinkingofPython, $5 per month is very cheap. you should buy one. without google, it's a nightmare.
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[20:16] <ThinkingofPython> coded1 is it fast enough?
[20:16] <Coded1> they usually have a 100MB test file that you can benchmark
[20:17] <sgo11> ThinkingofPython, yeah, you have to try and download a test file by yourself. network in this country is weird. it's fast in one ISP which doesn't mean it's fast in another ISP. that's why I have three VPS in different countries.
[20:18] <ThinkingofPython> ah
[20:18] <Coded1> if you check the middle of that page I pasted ^^^ above under "Network Information"
[20:18] <Coded1> they have a bunch of Linux Distros you can download
[20:18] <sgo11> ThinkingofPython, I have one in US, one in England, one in Singapore. Because I have my office and home use different ISPs.
[20:19] <Coded1> if you're just watching youtube then latency isn't that much of a big deal
[20:20] <ThinkingofPython> share heh
[20:21] <ThinkingofPython> Theres a free VPS but on vps.me but its 0.6ghz, 384mb ram, 5gb disc space 10GB bandwidth
[20:21] <Coded1> I've setup a VPS with lower specs
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[20:21] <ThinkingofPython> How's it work? Pretty well?
[20:22] <Coded1> yup, it's just passing on bits anyway
[20:22] <Coded1> if 10GB is enough then I would go for it
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[20:22] <Froolap> is that bandwidth or storage?
[20:23] <Coded1> bandwidth
[20:23] <sgo11> ThinkingofPython, if I can limit the number of connected clients, I can share my server with you. so far, I haven't found a way to limit the num of clients. :)
[20:23] <ThinkingofPython> Ah okay. I wouldnt use more than 1 client
[20:24] <sgo11> ThinkingofPython, I am just afraid you will tell other people the password. :)
[20:25] <ThinkingofPython> Ah, I wouldnt want to concern you. I wouldn't, but I know it's difficult to trust people online lol
[20:25] <sgo11> ThinkingofPython, ok. I can share one server with you. just keep the password by yourself.
[20:25] <ThinkingofPython> Alright, PM me
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[20:54] <niston> anyone know of a free mailing list provider that will allow me to run a closed 5 subscriber list?
[20:54] <Bilby> doesn't mailchimp have a free tier?
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[20:55] <niston> for closed lists?
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[20:58] <Bilby> I'm not sure on that
[21:01] <xxValiumxx> cant you just Bcc each of them?
[21:02] <Kryczek> you mean Cc?
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[21:03] <xxValiumxx> Bcc is kinda like Cc except each person doesnt see that it was sent to the others
[21:03] <xxValiumxx> hence Blind Carbon Copy
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[21:03] <Kryczek> I know but he wants a mailing-list
[21:03] <Jusii> right, but how's everybody going to reply to list if it's bcc
[21:04] <xxValiumxx> oh derp, THAT kind of mailing list.
[21:04] <xxValiumxx> Yahoo Groups.
[21:04] <Kryczek> what other kind of mailing list is there?
[21:04] <xxValiumxx> literally, a list of people you send mail to.
[21:05] <Froolap> almost done writing 1 to my drive.
[21:05] <xxValiumxx> like for advertising or site updates
[21:07] <Kryczek> weird
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[21:08] <Froolap> there's a difference between email and forums
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[21:25] <linuxthefish> does the rpi vary it's power draw depending on what it's plugged into?
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[21:26] <Jusii> it varies depending what it's doing
[21:26] <Jusii> and what is plugged into the pi
[21:27] <Jusii> it takes what it needs, if it doesn't get what it needs, it will become unstable
[21:27] <Froolap> and then you cry
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[21:31] <Xark> Keep an eye out for colored squares in the upper left (telling you it is power starved)
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[21:35] <lj300> whats the best dropbox client for the rpi? running raspbian; need to keep some videos synced between devices; tried d2pi but when the device looses internet access weird things such as video deletion happen
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[21:36] <cehteh> lj300: git-annex ftw
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[21:39] <lj300> cehteh: looks nice but having dropbox gives me shared folders that i can share with the people that need to upload the videos
[21:39] <cehteh> git annex can do that too
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[21:40] <lj300> cehteh: with dropbox ?
[21:41] <cehteh> no with git-annex :D
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[21:42] <lj300> does it have a way so users will be able to drag and drop to a folder
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[21:45] <cehteh> could be as simple as a local folder on your computer
[21:45] <cehteh> when you drag things into it they get synced with other computers
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[21:46] <cehteh> (runing the 'git annex assistant' daemon watching for changes)
[21:48] <Jusii> lsyncd also does what you want
[21:49] * cehteh just looked at orifs but seems to be some slow developing, academic project, havent got it properly running yet
[21:49] <cehteh> would be nice :/
[21:50] <Jusii> but lsyncd is mainly one-way sync, I think it can be used as two-way sync too but never tried
[21:50] <lj300> i have no access to the users computers, i dont even know if they have windows, mac, linux;
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[21:51] <Froolap> set up an ftp server and be done with it.
[21:52] <Jusii> does dropbox support webdav?
[21:53] <lj300> i would then need user to have filezila or such, need to set up the connection, a user, password, etc
[21:53] <lj300> dropbox would be easier for them
[21:53] <Jusii> box.com does so you can just mount the box.com share with webdav
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[21:54] <Jusii> but that's not for sync you're looking for I think
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[21:55] <Jusii> you'd need to combine lsyncd to sync files from local folder to webdav mounted dir
[21:56] <Jusii> and no webdav in dropbox https://www.dropbox.com/en/help/62
[21:57] <Froolap> you never downloaded anything with a web browser? it's still ftp....
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[22:02] <Jusii> most of the time it's still http
[22:03] <Jusii> and as I understand it, users would need to be able to upload too
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[22:04] <xxValiumxx> HTTP has more than just POST and GET
[22:04] <xxValiumxx> hint hint
[22:04] <xxValiumxx> nevermind, I have no idea what I'm talking about
[22:05] <xxValiumxx> hell, I'm even in the wrong channel xD
[22:05] <xxValiumxx> thought this was #arduino
[22:05] <ali1234> it does?
[22:05] <The_Borg> it is arduino
[22:05] <xxValiumxx> ali1234 yeah, you also have HEAD, PUT, DELETE
[22:05] <xxValiumxx> thats for 1.1 though
[22:06] <xxValiumxx> a few others, but I can't remember them.
[22:06] <xxValiumxx> HEAD is like GET, but only returns the header.
[22:06] <ali1234> PATCH
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[22:10] <The_Borg> request
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[22:21] <Ionic> main screen turn on
[22:21] <Ionic> (composite)
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[22:24] <Ionic> interesting! don't enable the CPU idle options for a rpi2, OR ELSE
[22:25] <ShorTie> does it let the magic smoke out ??
[22:25] <MY123> ShorTie, no
[22:25] <MY123> it makes RiscOS run at 600MHz
[22:25] <MY123> instead of 900
[22:26] <Ionic> CPU idle? nothing like that, it makes the kernel panic
[22:26] <Ionic> which isn't too bad
[22:26] <Ionic> but not too good either
[22:26] <ShorTie> doesn't sound like much of a 'OR ELSE'
[22:27] <Ionic> well, if you have no way to get kernel messages during boot, it is
[22:27] <Ionic> (netconsole won't work, the *** ethernet driver doesn't support polling)
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[22:39] <Ionic> hm, that said, it can't be cpu_idle's fault
[22:39] <Ionic> that must be some coincidence
[22:40] <Ionic> if only the messages weren't scrolling so fast
[22:41] <Ionic> boot_delay sounds interesting
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[22:41] * ShorTie thinkz slow motion video recorder
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[22:43] <Ionic> that won't help, really
[22:43] <Ionic> the signal is way too blurry
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[22:43] <ShorTie> clean your glasses ??
[22:43] <Ionic> not wearing any (which might be part of the problem)
[22:44] <Ionic> but seriously, composite is a crappy technology
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[22:44] <ShorTie> seems ok to me
[22:45] <ShorTie> but it is only a 4.3" screen .. :/~
[22:45] <Ionic> it's grainy, hard to read, fast refreshes make it pretty much unreadable
[22:45] <Ionic> let's see how a 200ms delay between each message works out
[22:47] <Ionic> hmm
[22:47] <Ionic> still the test screen
[22:47] <Ionic> maybe 200 ms is too high a delay for each message
[22:48] <Ionic> oh
[22:48] <Ionic> null pointer dereference
[22:51] <Ionic> in... l4_init? hard to read still, but uhm...
[22:51] <ali1234> use a serial console
[22:51] <Ionic> that's for the gameport
[22:51] <Ionic> yeah, that would be *much* easier, but requires another set of hardware...
[22:53] <ali1234> why don't you just use a normal kernel?
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[22:53] <Ionic> that would be way too easy
[22:54] <Ionic> I'm used to rolling my own for the past 10 years
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[23:03] * niston built look-up tables for the most common exam questions
[23:03] <niston> mwahah!
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[23:18] <Sonny_Jim> I programmed my TI-83+ with most of the things I needed for my exams
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[23:19] <Sonny_Jim> They even let me take it into non-science exams as well, which was funny
[23:20] <tawr> a lot of times they make you format it before tests
[23:20] <tawr> at least they used to
[23:21] <tawr> which is why asm programs that pretend to format were so popular
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[23:24] <Berg> and a free set of steak knives ones you hand over credit card details...
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