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IRC Log for 2015-05-22

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[0:00] <ShorTie> streaming, the data goes thru the usb twice
[0:00] <supersmilers> why ext2fsd doesn't let me read linux partition?
[0:00] <ShorTie> playing it only goes to the gpu
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[0:01] <osxyer> ShorTie: so I can forget about 1080i streaming....works fine with 720p@60hz though....the 1080i stream is 4000kbps while the 720p@60fps is 5000 and it works fine
[0:01] <ShorTie> maybe because it is ext4 and not ext2
[0:01] <osxyer> could it be a processor thing because im on the rp1 B model only
[0:02] <supersmilers> on the website it said it supports ext4
[0:02] <osxyer> 1080i@30fps
[0:03] <ShorTie> osxyer, all i can say is try it
[0:03] <supersmilers> too bad I can't dump edid file on pastebin
[0:04] <ShorTie> if works good, if not, your gonna hafe to cut the resolution back till it does
[0:04] <ShorTie> you can output straight to pastebin if you got net hooked up
[0:05] <ShorTie> other wise, save to file and grab it with like winscp
[0:05] <osxyer> ShorTie: i can't modify the streaming resolution, it's pbs
[0:07] <supersmilers> got it uploading to pastebin
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[0:08] <supersmilers> darn. its a .dat file
[0:08] <supersmilers> dropbox or onedrive?
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[0:09] <muldoon> I am having alot of trouble getting a stettper motot working.. I am new to this and struggling. I purchased a LN298 driver, and canakit stepper. I have Pi2Rev B. does anyone have experience with these devices?
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[0:10] <muldoon> the driver is this, www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00N7IYTKE/ but I have no documentation on it. It appears the header pins just sit down on the original Pi1, but I do not think that lines up with the Pi2
[0:12] <ShorTie> the 1st 26 gpio pins on the rpi2 are the same as the rpi
[0:12] <supersmilers> got it. its here: https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=844B54A045FF3BA8!148449
[0:12] <ShorTie> now board interference is a different thing
[0:12] <supersmilers> its the edid file
[0:13] <methuzla> muldoon you'll have a tough time getting that on the 40pin GPIO
[0:15] <NedScott> eh?
[0:15] <supersmilers> from the edid file what res should I pick?
[0:16] <methuzla> muldoon have you read up on basic h-bridge/stepper motor driving?
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[0:18] <supersmilers> anyone?
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[0:19] <ShorTie> all i see is some kind of folded down corner piece of paper
[0:19] <muldoon> methuzla, yes, the basics. it just doesnt do anything. running as root. I first want to make sure I have it plugged in correctly. above it was said the first 26 pins are the same. pin "1" being at the edge of the board correct? as in opposite of the usb ports. the pin closest to the corner being the 5v+ ?
[0:19] <supersmilers> its a dat file on my side
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[0:20] <supersmilers> should I named it differently?
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[0:22] <methuzla> muldoon pin numbering: http://pi4j.com/images/j8header-photo.png
[0:22] <methuzla> muldoon and yes, pins 1..26 are the same
[0:22] <muldoon> thanks methuzla, very helpful.
[0:23] <methuzla> muldoon you could use it, but the problem is mushing it down with the other pins in the way
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[0:23] <muldoon> next question, given they supply a header pin that sits down on the row, how do I know for sure which pins are actually being used so that I can program them correctly?
[0:24] <supersmilers> here's the pastebin of the edid file: http://pastebin.com/URD436mT
[0:24] <supersmilers> What res should I pick?
[0:24] <methuzla> muldoon did the driver board come with instructions? schematic? any info at all?
[0:25] <muldoon> nothing, and the website screened on it is useless, 52pi.cn it's chinese, but google translate makes it look like a forum for hobbiest - no whitepapers, schematics.
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[0:26] <muldoon> Makerfire® Raspberry Pi L298N Motor Driver Board .. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00N7IYTKE/
[0:26] <supersmilers> anyone?
[0:26] <ShorTie> sorry, don't know what '������ MD2�F'x' means
[0:26] <supersmilers> idk why it pasted like that
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[0:27] <methuzla> muldoon guess you gotta reverse engineer it, follow traces on the pcb
[0:28] <methuzla> muldoon if it truly is a STL298N, at least you can pin outs for that from ST
[0:28] <supersmilers> http://pastebin.com/410WA5cA better?
[0:29] <supersmilers> is the new link worksbetter for you?
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[0:31] <supersmilers> Which res form the new pastebin link that works?
[0:32] <supersmilers> anyone?
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[0:34] <supersmilers> *sigh*
[0:35] <methuzla> supersmilers what are you trying to do?
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[0:35] <muldoon> methuzla .. thanks dude, you got to to the right place. https://github.com/makerfire/rpi-demo/wiki/RPI-L298N-Motor-Driver-Module
[0:36] <muldoon> fucking awesome.. m
[0:37] <methuzla> there you go. they even show it mushed down on a 40pin gpio.
[0:38] <supersmilers> I'm trying to set my res settings
[0:39] <supersmilers> right now its at weird res
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[0:40] <methuzla> muldoon FYI that sample code is not for a stepper, it's for a DC motor
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[0:41] <supersmilers> found it. it says my TV's CEA native mode is 16
[0:41] <methuzla> supersmilers so something to do with resolution on an HDMI mon...
[0:41] <methuzla> oh
[0:41] <methuzla> nevermind
[0:42] <supersmilers> But it picked DMT 81 for strange reason
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[0:44] <supersmilers> I have 40" HDTV
[0:44] <supersmilers> its the 1080i one
[0:44] <Berg> hello world
[0:45] <supersmilers> How do I set it to correct native mode on the Pi?
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[0:47] <[Saint]> My kitten has decided she is a squirrel.
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[0:48] <[Saint]> She has been picking up mouthfuls of dry food and jumping up on the bench and spitting them out, for the last 10~15 minutes.
[0:48] <[Saint]> For...cat reasons, I guess.
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[0:49] <Berg> mybe you rodent wants a higher level of food
[0:50] <pmumble> trying to tell you she's sick of meat cereal?
[0:50] <pmumble> or just bored :)
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[0:57] <Wegge> Anyone up for a totally off-topic war story?
[0:57] <HotCoder> hello people
[0:58] <HotCoder> i have a question. so i set up raspberry pi to have raspbian on it. now i use putty to access command prompt. i want to learn how to use a vnc to access the desktop GUI on there. can someone help me to enable that?
[0:58] <Wegge> HotCoder, there are several descriptions available on the forum.
[0:58] <Wegge> Try google with something like "raspian vnc"
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[0:59] <Wegge> My first hit is this: https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/remote-access/vnc/
[1:00] <pmumble> it pretty much boils down to install tightvnc, run vncserver, profit.
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[1:03] <Berg> nice
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[1:04] <day> dooes wiringpi work with the raspberry 2? I dont find a conclusive answer
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[1:05] <HotCoder> ok this is hard
[1:05] <methuzla> http://wiringpi.com/wiringpi-updated-for-the-new-pi-v2/
[1:06] <day> the pin check says everyhting is fine.. at the same time the text says only the original raspberry v1 pins are being tested not the additional pins added in rev b etc. but it doesnt say anything about the rasp2
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[1:06] <day> methuzla: yeah i found that, but at the same time i dont find any comments about the pi2 in the program
[1:07] <day> and my tiny test program doesnt work either :/ http://dpaste.com/2S40RM6
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[1:14] <methuzla> day wiringPi.c line 681 // See if it's BCM2708 or BCM2709
[1:16] <day> methuzla: no i found it ?.?
[1:16] <day> wiringPiSetupGpio(); -> wiringPiSetup()
[1:17] <methuzla> day pi2 support is pretty simple, it's just a change in memory base address for the peripherals
[1:17] <day> yeah i saw that comment on his page
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[1:18] <day> seems to work now. enough for today. time to sleep
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[1:18] <supersmilers> can anyone help me set the correct res settings from the edid file I posted?
[1:20] <supersmilers> Anyone?
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[1:21] <supersmilers> I guess I'm stuck
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[1:22] <supersmilers> still nothing
[1:24] <supersmilers> I'm a noob
[1:25] <supersmilers> Any help here?
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[1:26] <supersmilers> Hello?
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[1:31] <supersmilers> Hello?
[1:31] <supersmilers> I wanted some help
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[1:33] <supersmilers> I got aproblem with my HDTV resolution
[1:34] <supersmilers> I want to deal with it
[1:34] <Encapsulation> why does my pir sensor keep triggering from nothing
[1:34] <Encapsulation> every few seconds
[1:35] <methuzla> ghosts
[1:35] <supersmilers> *sigh*
[1:36] <supersmilers> I feel like I'm being ignored
[1:38] <ozzzy> have you asked a question?
[1:38] <supersmilers> yes. a half of a hour ago
[1:38] * ozzzy scrolls back
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[1:39] * ozzzy doesn't know what an edid is
[1:39] <supersmilers> edid is what pi reads to output a res to a monitor
[1:40] <ozzzy> well there you go....
[1:41] <Encapsulation> sweriosuly
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[1:41] <Encapsulation> whats triggering this thing
[1:41] <Encapsulation> I have two pir sensors
[1:41] <Encapsulation> trigger from nothiong
[1:41] <Encapsulation> I think its the pi
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[1:41] <Encapsulation> they work fine from my 5 volt supply
[1:41] <Encapsulation> or I don't notice these brief moments
[1:42] <methuzla> what pir sensors are they?
[1:42] * ozzzy doesn't have a display on his Pi
[1:42] <supersmilers> However I don't know what resolution should I set manually because I got this: http://pastebin.com/410WA5cA it sets to 1366x768p for odd reason
[1:42] <supersmilers> my HDTV is 1080i
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[1:44] <Encapsulation> methuzla, one is radio shack the other generic ebay
[1:44] <HotCoder> i just cant get the vnc to run on my thing
[1:45] <HotCoder> i dont know linux commands at all
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[1:45] <HotCoder> is there a very detailed noob friendly guide to set up vnc
[1:45] <methuzla> supersmilers any help here? http://elinux.org/RPiconfig#Video
[1:46] <Froolap> you want the long version or the short version?
[1:47] <methuzla> Encapsulation and they both false trigger?
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[1:47] <HotCoder> Froolap, me?
[1:47] <HotCoder> long version
[1:47] <Froolap> yah
[1:48] <Froolap> ok, the long version is research and fiddle with it...... o-0
[1:48] <HotCoder> whats the short version
[1:48] <Froolap> the short version is just fiddle with it, but it takes longer.
[1:48] <methuzla> HotCoder what guide(s) have you looked at?
[1:48] <HotCoder> all of them
[1:49] <HotCoder> Froolap, the good news is, i found a nickel
[1:49] <Froolap> wish I knew more about vnc to be able to help you
[1:49] <ozzzy> woohoo....
[1:50] <Froolap> that's something I should look into, but I settled for a kvm switch instead
[1:50] <niston> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/882225-REG/for_a_ft_one_full_4k_variable.html
[1:50] <supersmilers> got it. but there's overscaling going on
[1:50] <niston> heh
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[1:50] <niston> 4k @ 860 FPS
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[1:50] <supersmilers> I tried CEA group 16
[1:51] <Froolap> that camera cost more than my boat.
[1:51] <niston> and it doesnt even come with a lens
[1:52] <Froolap> or a life jacket
[1:54] <supersmilers> nope. tried CEA 5 and there's overscaling going on
[1:54] <HotCoder> ok i did it
[1:54] <HotCoder> it works now :D
[1:55] <HotCoder> i got vnc to work but i used remote desktop to do it
[1:55] <HotCoder> is that bad?
[1:55] <Froolap> does it work?
[1:56] <supersmilers> I'm gonna try overscaning
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[1:56] <Encapsulation> methuzla, seems to be lots of false triggers
[1:56] <Froolap> just make sure your firewall is rejecting all ip connects the the port except for ip address you intend to use.
[1:56] <Encapsulation> I'm really not understanding whats happening here
[1:57] * Froolap points at HotCoder
[1:57] <HotCoder> yes it works
[1:57] <HotCoder> :P
[1:58] <Froolap> if it makes you happy then it's not bad, but then.... what do I know?
[1:58] <HotCoder> i mean
[1:58] <HotCoder> is using remote desktop from windows bad?
[1:58] <ozzzy> nope.... I do it all the time
[1:58] <Froolap> what is your definition of bad?
[1:58] <HotCoder> is it a bad idea?
[1:58] <HotCoder> is there a problem with this set up?
[1:59] <HotCoder> im not asking for your opinion on a poem lol
[1:59] <ozzzy> 'bad' is highly subjective
[1:59] <HotCoder> im asking from the technical/scientific point of view
[1:59] <ozzzy> why would it be bad?
[1:59] <HotCoder> is it bad, is it not profitable, is it inefficient, is it an overall bad idea
[1:59] <ozzzy> it's an odd question
[1:59] <HotCoder> is it?
[1:59] <ozzzy> yes
[2:00] <Froolap> HotCoder: When I got my pi, I decided to open the ssh port on one of my routers so I could connect to my pi from my other isp. Within 1 hour I had over 1000 attempts to connects to my pi trying to compromise the system.
[2:00] <HotCoder> ozzzy, you're an odd person
[2:00] <HotCoder> Froolap, how do i block
[2:00] <methuzla> Encapsulation put a box over the sensors and see they stop triggering
[2:00] <HotCoder> Froolap, i dont want to be compromised
[2:01] <ozzzy> why would 'remote desktop from windows' be any different than 'remote desktop from QNX/Unix/OSX'?
[2:01] <Froolap> Setting up firewall to limit all but a couple of IP address helpped to slow down those attempts.
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[2:01] <HotCoder> Froolap, set up firewall on my pi?
[2:01] <HotCoder> ok
[2:01] <HotCoder> i'll look into that bro
[2:01] <HotCoder> :)
[2:01] <HotCoder> thank you
[2:01] <Froolap> Installing fail2ban would then monitor the ports I requested and then automatically add bad ip addresses to the firewall if they failed to authenticate.
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[2:02] <Froolap> That won't stop a brute force attack, but it may slow them down enough that it's either A) not worth their while or B) give you time to notice and take additional action.
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[2:03] <ozzzy> I just don't make my Pi available from outside the lan
[2:03] <Encapsulation> I think I see the problem
[2:03] <Froolap> I highly recommend fail2ban if you are going to open ports on your router.
[2:03] <Encapsulation> the pir sensor operates at 5 volts and I'm giving it 3.3
[2:03] <HotCoder> will do
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[2:03] <Encapsulation> this could be part of the problem
[2:03] <Froolap> yah, could be
[2:03] <HotCoder> Froolap, question. do you leave your pi on the ethernet cable on your router and leave it on?
[2:03] <HotCoder> all day and night?
[2:04] <Froolap> one of them, I do.
[2:04] <Encapsulation> how can I even power it from the pi?
[2:04] <Encapsulation> is that safe
[2:04] <HotCoder> i feel like i should shut them down
[2:04] <Encapsulation> it says it outputs 3.3v
[2:04] <Encapsulation> on the sensor pin
[2:04] <Encapsulation> http://www.ebay.com/itm/HC-SR501-Adjust-IR-Pyroelectric-Infrared-PIR-Motion-Sensor-Detector-Module-NEW-/271638488228?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f3eea64a4
[2:04] <Encapsulation> its this
[2:05] <Froolap> HotCoder: I haven't heard of any of them catching on fire, but..... certainly if you don't need to have 24/7 up time then it won't hurt to power them off.
[2:05] <Encapsulation> "If you use an arduino or other micro controllers you can use the 3.3 volt out to power the sensor or use the 5volt power pin (vcc) to power the sensor. Either one will work."
[2:05] <Froolap> I use my pi to run irc bots, so I need constant online connections
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[2:05] <Encapsulation> "either one will work.... will work... work...work
[2:05] <Encapsulation> or will it?
[2:06] <Encapsulation> echoes of insanity inside my mind
[2:06] <Froolap> just watch your logs and don't get complacent about it
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[2:06] <Encapsulation> I could bring 5 volts out into my cable if I need
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[2:07] <Froolap> what about a 9v battery with an led to drop 3v?
[2:07] <Froolap> no, that's still a bad plan.
[2:08] <HotCoder> question for Froolap and others as well. is there a way where i can just enable access from my home network only?
[2:08] <Encapsulation> according to the chinese it should be working
[2:08] <Froolap> HotCoder: yes there is, but it requires you to read up on tcp-ip and iptables
[2:08] <Encapsulation> wait here it is
[2:08] <Encapsulation> Runs on 5V-16V power (if you need to run it off of 3V you can do that by bypassing the regulator, but that means doing a bit of soldering).
[2:08] <Encapsulation> thats my answer!
[2:09] <Encapsulation> its soldering time
[2:09] <Encapsulation> mystery soldering
[2:09] <methuzla> Encapsulation there are 5V pins on the GPIO
[2:09] <Froolap> you can set up firewall rules that will only allow connections to specific ports if the originating ip is on your lan
[2:09] <Encapsulation> methuzla, my gpio is far away at this point
[2:09] <Encapsulation> methuzla, I brought everything I planned for out into a cable
[2:09] <Encapsulation> from my device
[2:09] <Encapsulation> it would be a hassle to bring out 5v but I can if I must
[2:09] <supersmilers> almost got it
[2:09] <Encapsulation> if I can modify the sensor to run on 3v3 that would be bettert hough
[2:10] <Froolap> then deny all other ip addresses
[2:11] <HotCoder> ah ok
[2:11] <HotCoder> i'll look into that later
[2:11] <Encapsulation> HotCoder, ip access-list 10, permit 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.255
[2:11] <Froolap> HotCoder: you'll want to look up what 192.168.1.0/16 does
[2:12] <Encapsulation> int g0/0 access-group 10 in
[2:12] <Encapsulation> xD
[2:12] <Froolap> and ipv6 gets complicated
[2:12] <Encapsulation> HotCoder, do you have a router?
[2:12] <Encapsulation> are you trying to allow ssh to pi from local network only?
[2:13] <HotCoder> yeah
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[2:14] <Encapsulation> if the pi is behind a router thats already the case isnt it
[2:14] <Encapsulation> unless you explicity forward port 22 to the pi
[2:15] <Encapsulation> in your routers configuration
[2:15] <Encapsulation> ASSUMING you have a router
[2:15] <HotCoder> yes i have router dude
[2:15] <Encapsulation> then you're done
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[2:15] <HotCoder> i used a ethernet to the router
[2:16] <Encapsulation> your pi is only accessible via your local network
[2:16] <HotCoder> awesome
[2:16] <Encapsulation> via ssh
[2:16] <HotCoder> another question
[2:16] <HotCoder> what is the benefit of vnc over remote desktop from windows?
[2:16] <Froolap> still it's not a bad idea to make redundant rules in iptables to block and or install fail2ban in case something does get through.
[2:16] <muldoon> hotcoder.. look at cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config ... ggogle AllowUsers you@192.168.0.0/16 directive. you control it on the box itself, not router
[2:17] <pksato> HotCoder: not need to install extra software.
[2:17] <HotCoder> pksato, ?
[2:17] <pksato> on windows
[2:18] <Encapsulation> so the benefit of remote desktop is that its inbuilt and vnc must be installed?
[2:18] <Encapsulation> is that what you're saying pksato
[2:18] <pksato> y
[2:18] <Encapsulation> that is true
[2:18] <supersmilers> I fixed it but the imagees now have glow on the edges
[2:18] <muldoon> remote desktop, windows only. vnc, cross platform.
[2:19] <HotCoder> which is better
[2:19] <supersmilers> its now 1814x1024
[2:19] <HotCoder> vnc or remote
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[2:19] <muldoon> if connecting to 100% windows boxes, rdp. if a mix, vnc
[2:20] <supersmilers> how much overscan settings so I can get it at 1080i?
[2:20] <Froolap> HotCoder: are you trying to see the windows machine from the pi, or are you trying to see the pi machine from windows, or both?
[2:20] <pksato> supersmilers: none.
[2:21] <pksato> expect if have a bad tv.
[2:21] <supersmilers> anyone know?
[2:21] <pksato> tv that not have 1x1 pixel mapping,
[2:22] <Encapsulation> any engineers?
[2:22] <HotCoder> Froolap, raspian from the pi
[2:22] <pksato> supersmilers: on hdmi connectiom not need overscan or underscan.
[2:22] <HotCoder> i'm trying to look into from my laptop
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[2:23] <Encapsulation> https://learn.adafruit.com/pir-passive-infrared-proximity-motion-sensor/overview how can I run this on 3v
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[2:23] <Encapsulation> what do I need to do with that regulator, remove it?
[2:23] <supersmilers> My current over scan settings is Overscan_left: 0, Overscan_right:10, Overscan_top:-20, Overscan_botton:-20
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[2:23] <Froolap> ok, so your pi will never try to view the windows desktop...... just trying to make clear what's required for both machines.
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[2:23] <supersmilers> anyone know?
[2:24] <ozzzy> HotCoder, which remote desktop package?
[2:24] <Encapsulation> Froolap, do you know how to bypass this regulator
[2:24] * ozzzy uses tightvnc
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[2:24] <HotCoder> ozzzy, im trying to compare the 2
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[2:25] <HotCoder> the windows default one vs vnc
[2:25] <HotCoder> which is better
[2:25] <Froolap> Encapsulation: I have no idea what you are talking about. you were way over my head last week. :)
[2:26] <ozzzy> windows default? RDP?
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[2:26] <supersmilers> How much overscan do I need to make my HDTV to change from 1814x1024 to 1080i?
[2:26] <Encapsulation> niston, are you around?
[2:26] * ozzzy didn't know there was an RDP implimentation for *nix
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[2:27] <pksato> supersmilers: on this case, you need a zoom (resize), not scan correction.
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[2:27] <Froolap> *I* would not enable windows remote desktop on my machine..... I don't think that would be required to see a remote desktop on another machine, but a client to view remote might be.
[2:27] <muldoon> ozzy.. their is a client implementation, no rdp service for unix/linux
[2:27] <muldoon> rdesktop
[2:28] <ozzzy> muldoon, yeah... but I think HotCoder was going the other way Windows->Pi
[2:28] <ozzzy> unless I'm wrong
[2:28] <supersmilers> My TV does have resize function but its terrible
[2:28] <HotCoder> no ozzzy is right
[2:28] <muldoon> from windows to pi, use ssh or vnc/tightvnc/ultravnc etc..
[2:28] <ozzzy> I've always used tightvnc... it's pretty fast
[2:28] <pksato> supersmilers: you tv is not 1080i?
[2:28] <methuzla> supersmilers didn't you say your TV was 1080i?
[2:28] <ozzzy> though I do have x tunneling and xming
[2:29] <muldoon> is there a decent Xserv for windows? he might be able to just export his display variable as well..
[2:29] <supersmilers> its 1080i from my PS3 but for some reason the TV outputs in a way its PC mode for my Pi.
[2:29] <ozzzy> xming
[2:29] <muldoon> I used to use Xceed like forever ago,...
[2:30] <ozzzy> and it's free
[2:30] <muldoon> nice, thanks
[2:30] <methuzla> supersmilers are you making changes to /boot/config.txt?
[2:30] <supersmilers> Yes.
[2:30] <pksato> supersmilers: need to force rpi hdmi to hdmi, not dvi.
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[2:30] <methuzla> pastebin it
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[2:32] <pksato> supersmilers: use theses parameters on config.txt hdmi_force_hotplug=1
[2:32] <pksato> hdmi_drive=2
[2:32] <pksato> hdmi_group=1
[2:33] <pksato> hdmi_mode=5
[2:33] <pksato> for 60Hz reflesh
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[2:34] <methuzla> hdmi_mode=20
[2:34] <methuzla> 50Hz
[2:34] <methuzla> hdmi_ignore_edid=0xa5000080
[2:34] <pksato> disable_overscan=1
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[2:35] <pksato> if have tvservice instaled, can test modes/values without reboot
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[2:41] <supersmilers> there's alot of overscalling now
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[2:41] <methuzla> supersmilers pastebin your current /boot/config.txt
[2:43] <supersmilers> here it is: http://pastebin.com/HA1yCZKN
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[2:45] <supersmilers> well?
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[2:46] <methuzla> is your tv 60Hz?
[2:47] <pksato> for rpi, not make difference if is 60Hz or 50Hz
[2:48] <methuzla> doesn't the tv care?
[2:48] <pksato> no
[2:48] <pksato> moderm TV, no.
[2:50] <pksato> supersmilers: configs are correct, that you see on TV screen?
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[2:51] <pksato> supersmilers_: configs are correct, that you see on TV screen?
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[2:51] <supersmilers_> I see overscan on left and Top and botton
[2:51] <pksato> a black border?
[2:52] <supersmilers_> no. It scales past the monitor size
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[2:53] <pksato> is connected HDMI to HDMI?
[2:53] <supersmilers_> yes
[2:53] <pksato> tv have a info about signal?
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[2:54] <pksato> and, changes on config.txt reflect on tv?
[2:54] <eggy> There we have it; Jessie has been installed.
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[2:54] <supersmilers_> I gonna try Plugging it in now to get info
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[2:57] <supersmilers_> its 2012 Aquos
[2:58] <supersmilers_> There's no way to turn off stretch mode on video
[2:59] <supersmilers_> There's only "Stretch", "Smart Stretch" Or "Zoom"
[2:59] <Encapsulation> I bypassed the regulator and it still seems to trigger randomly...
[2:59] <pksato> supersmilers_: run this command on rpi /opt/vc/bin/tvservice -s
[3:00] <pksato> show current settings
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[3:03] <supersmilers> its 0x12001a HDMI CEA (5) RGB lim 16:9) 1920x1080 60Hz, interlaced
[3:03] <pksato> sending a correct resolution.
[3:04] <supersmilers> but it overscales past the TV'ssize
[3:05] <pksato> fbset -s
[3:05] <pksato> or fbset -i
[3:05] <pksato> show framebuffer informations
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[3:05] <pksato> size need to match with hdmi
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[3:06] <supersmilers> its geometry 1920 1080 1920 1080 16
[3:06] <pksato> correct.
[3:06] <pksato> is not some settings on tv?
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[3:08] <supersmilers> nope. I can't turn off stretch on TV when I switch to PI. I think my PS3 have some hack for that for some reason
[3:08] <pksato> or, only you have a impression that has wrong.
[3:09] <pksato> mouse cursor disappears on borders?
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[3:11] <supersmilers> I'm sending you a pic
[3:11] <pksato> also, you can play with framebuffer_width and framebuffer_height
[3:11] <pksato> use some pic share site
[3:13] <supersmilers> http://imgur.com/Fujlx3u,kzVjnlT?
[3:14] <supersmilers> see it scales past the HDTV
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[3:15] <supersmilers> http://imgur.com/Fujlx3u,kzVjnlT is the album
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[3:16] <supersmilers> How do I fix that
[3:17] <supersmilers> Anyone?
[3:18] <supersmilers> its a 40" HDTV
[3:18] <pksato> humm. 1050?
[3:18] <plugwash> you may not able able to
[3:18] <plugwash> unfortunately you are at the mercy of your TV and some TVs simply do not have any modes where they make usable monitors
[3:19] <Triffid_Hunter> supersmilers: see if you can turn off overscan in your TV's picture settings
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[3:20] <Triffid_Hunter> supersmilers: googling "overscan HDMI" brings up tons of info fwiw, maybe chuck in "raspberry pi" as well for results more targeted to your situation
[3:20] <supersmilers> oh. its odd that PS3 got it right but not my pi. And I can't turn off overscan, its locked to these options: "stretch", "smart stretch", "zoom"
[3:22] <pksato> /opt/vc/bin/tvservice -m CEA
[3:22] <pksato> and /opt/vc/bin/tvservice -m DMT
[3:22] <pksato> have a list of modes?
[3:23] <supersmilers> I posted a paste bin a while ago
[3:23] <supersmilers> http://pastebin.com/410WA5cA
[3:24] <pksato> my be need to set hdmi_group=1 hdmi_mode=1 to get correct values
[3:24] <supersmilers> However, here's what my PS3 output looks like: http://imgur.com/YgLStC5
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[3:25] <supersmilers> Pretty odd?
[3:25] <zumba_ad_> hey folks, i'm planning to use raspberry pi and install linux. I would like to use it as a NodeJS server. It should work right? I also want to know if raspberry pi has a serial port?
[3:26] <pksato> supersmilers: try mode 16
[3:30] <supersmilers> tried mode 16 but it looks the same as mode 5. Same overscaling
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[3:31] <supersmilers> it still scales past the TV's size
[3:33] <pksato> try framebuffer_height=1050
[3:33] <pksato> to see that happes.
[3:34] <pksato> or other low resolutions, like 720
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[3:39] <supersmilers> tried 720 and now there's over scan on height but overscalling on width
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[4:59] <m3chanical> hey all, I'm working on building up my own home automation system using the lovely RaspPi, arduinos, and NRF24L01+ radios. So far I have a super basic concept working and now I need to couple all this with a web interface, and want to design my own (for fun! I observe there are lots of solutions out there, but my goal is primarily education)...
[5:01] <m3chanical> My intent is to use Node.js, but the problem I'm running into is that there are about 50000x (it seems) different javascript this or that frameworks and I've become a bit overwhelmed on where to start ... Can anyone provide some advice on where to get started? Right now I'm leaning toward MEAN.io
[5:03] <ShorTie> i'd look into 433mhz
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[5:06] <m3chanical> For the radios?
[5:07] <ShorTie> ya
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[5:09] <m3chanical> I just looked 'em up. Can multiple 433mhz xmitters communicate to one receiver?
[5:09] <m3chanical> I like the nrf24 radios because they're transceivers, so i can use the pi to control LEDs around the house
[5:10] <ShorTie> sure, sumfin like these http://www.anarduino.com/miniwireless/
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[5:12] <ShorTie> 2.4ghz is too high of a frequency to propagate very far
[5:12] <m3chanical> Right. It's bouncey at that frequency. But my apartment is 800sqft lol. I don't need much
[5:13] <m3chanical> Those are neat. Looks like arduino with radio on board?
[5:13] <ShorTie> �k�� ��K��
[5:13] <ShorTie> Yuppers ... :)
[5:14] <m3chanical> Huh. Those things look super cool. Transceivers even!
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[5:14] <m3chanical> So used to working on ancient radio equipment, it's astonishing to see a full radio on a tiny chip
[5:14] <xrosnight> hello . is the video card on Raspberry pi 1 the same as the one on R Pi2 ?? Thanks!
[5:15] <ShorTie> yes they have the same gpu
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[5:20] <m3chanical> On those miniwireless chips, what is the difference between all the different models?
[5:20] <m3chanical> it looks like just radio types ... any practical differences?
[5:20] <xrosnight> ShorTie: yes the same. https://www.raspberrypi.org/benchmarking-raspberry-pi-2/
[5:21] <xrosnight> m3chanical: take a look of the link
[5:22] <ShorTie> not real hip on all the differences, but i picked the rfm69hw's to play with
[5:23] <xrosnight> ShorTie: it looks Pi 2 is much more responsive
[5:23] <ShorTie> i was going for the most power output though
[5:25] <xrosnight> ShorTie: why that?
[5:25] <xrosnight> pi2 has 4 cores. Really amazing.
[5:26] <xrosnight> when watching video or something, p1 B+ kills 80% of CPU. but P2 only 8%. big difference
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[5:30] <ThinkingofPython> Yeah the Pi2 runs XFCE4 real well too
[5:30] <ThinkingofPython> While the B+ struggled sometimes
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[5:40] <mxtm> true
[5:40] <mxtm> do any of you have that iPazzport little kb
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[6:42] <The_Borg> i wonder if you can use a raspberry pi to replace a hip?
[6:42] <The_Borg> :)
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[6:49] <muldoon> borg.. seems simple enough to me
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[6:56] <leaverite> I've been googling and searching links about installation of an OS on ansdhc card for my B model.
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[6:57] <leaverite> I've only a little experience doing anything with that and I'm a bit confused about the issue of writing a boot partition.
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[6:58] <leaverite> I have a Rasbian may 05-2015 3.7GB image. will add to /dev/sdd of that image write out all I need or do I need to create a 100mb boot partition first. if so, where do I get whatever has to go in there?
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[7:00] <muldoon> i did not create a boot partition, I just grabbed a working image for my platform, formatted card, wrote image and booted it.
[7:00] <leaverite> and it created to boot partition for you ?
[7:01] <Berg> i used the noob raspabarian and it created the partitions
[7:01] <muldoon> yes, it's an image, not an installer
[7:02] <muldoon> https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/ .. you got the raspian image?
[7:02] <Berg> not if i have a failure mainly due to the nut behind the keyboard on start up i hold done shift and it does it to any OS i wona use
[7:02] <Berg> installer is good for newbishes
[7:03] <muldoon> what is your "other" machine, not the pi, the one you are using to setup the card/ use the internet right now?
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[7:03] <Berg> yes
[7:03] <Berg> correct
[7:03] <Berg> this machine is a mint mate OS
[7:04] <leaverite> I've got a 2015-05-05-raspbian-wheezy.zip on hand
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[7:05] <leaverite> I'm currently in PC-BSD 10.1.2
[7:05] <leaverite> but I also have an U14.04 and a debian 7.5 cd on hand to boot from as well.
[7:05] <leaverite> in other words, not using windowze.
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[7:06] <muldoon> your are going to use dd to write the image .. did you see https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/installation/installing-images/linux.md ?
[7:06] <yggdrasil> hi
[7:06] <Berg> https://www.raspberrypi.org/help/noobs-setup/
[7:06] <yggdrasil> so my son was working on a scratch project and it crashed. he didnt save it.
[7:06] <yggdrasil> the apaplication is still kind of open
[7:06] <yggdrasil> any way to recover ?
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[7:07] <Berg> i think the latest deb is 17?
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[7:07] <Berg> well mint mate is 17 im upgrade right now slow work
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[7:08] <leaverite> I already had the one Berg mentioned up but only somethnig that mentioned noob.
[7:09] <muldoon> ygg, what application? what does "still kind of open" mean?
[7:09] <leaverite> but that's what confused me. It didnt say it would create the boot for me.
[7:09] <Berg> if you installed it and it ran then it did
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[7:10] <leaverite> that's it, huh?
[7:10] <yggdrasil> muldoon: scratch
[7:10] <muldoon> leaver, your image is not noob.. its the main wheezy rasp image. you will need to see the sd card in bsd (need its name), then unmount it, then you can raw write to the device aka /dev/sd.. yes, all partitions are intact inside the image. It's like a ghost image
[7:10] <yggdrasil> so the window is open but non responsive
[7:10] <Berg> yep
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[7:11] <leaverite> Berg, thanks. I'll lgive that a shot. I just didnt know if I needed to gpart a partition for the boot before hand.
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[7:11] <muldoon> ygg, sorry, it doesn't sound good..
[7:12] <leaverite> regarding the noob. how oes it go about installing any of the different OS's it offers? it's too small to have anywhere near a complete image for ewach of those ?
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[7:13] <Berg> it doesnt install any ity allows you to download the OS you wona use
[7:13] <muldoon> leaver, have you ever worked with or heard of something called ghost? or the term ghost images?
[7:13] <Berg> i just press shift on reboot and it asks me what os i wona use
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[7:13] <Berg> it also warns its goinmg to partition
[7:14] <Berg> so you need to back up your stuff before hand
[7:15] <yggdrasil> muldoon i know
[7:15] <yggdrasil> im rewriting it .
[7:15] <yggdrasil> for him
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[7:15] <yggdrasil> and haha hes better than me.
[7:15] <Berg> is it aq super food?
[7:16] <leaverite> Berg, I'm starting with a fresh sd card anyhow.
[7:16] <Berg> like old folks have no idea about anything
[7:16] <Berg> thats good plan
[7:17] <Berg> when i first started my pi leaverite i m essed up the sd card corrupted it some how
[7:17] <leaverite> muldoon, I had a copy of norton ghostwrite back around 2007, but never used it.
[7:17] <Berg> i forced it to remove all the partions and started over with a fresh noob
[7:17] <Berg> it was ok after that
[7:18] <leaverite> Berg, That's what I was worried about. that's why I was being so cautious.
[7:18] <leaverite> there's another issue I'mconcerned about, and that's swap.
[7:18] <Berg> yeah i have gpart force the partitions to go away took a lot of messing about
[7:18] <Berg> and then it had folders that pertsisted
[7:18] <Berg> i forced them out too
[7:19] <Berg> fresh copy of noob and backi in business
[7:19] <leaverite> these flash cards have a limited number of writes possible. and swap uses a LOT of writes. so eventually you could start having trouble and no idea what it is.
[7:19] <Berg> well i never looked at what the partitions are in raspbarian it works im happy
[7:20] <leaverite> How about frequent and sudden losses of power ?
[7:20] <Berg> thats a diff issue
[7:20] <Berg> i hurd you can corrupt the card if power drop
[7:21] <muldoon> leaver, perfect. the concept of an image is the same as ghost. you did not need to create MBR's or boot sectors, the image is a bit for bit that is written to the disk. never a need to create partitions with images. thus, with a new card, I just use DD on the unmounted device to write it. .. I have never used it, but it looks like a gtk frontend for dd was developed, http://helpdeskgeek.com/linux-tips/use-the-linux-%E2%80%98
[7:21] <Berg> im not so sure what thats about
[7:21] <leaverite> linux is 'SUPPOSED' to be imune to that, but apparently not. the problems I'm having with my Pi now is cause I get so many.
[7:22] * pmumble sets up a network backup for his pis.
[7:22] <pmumble> they gonna die. you can count on it.
[7:22] <leaverite> the one thing the Pi lacks is a 'Graceful' shudown button.
[7:22] <muldoon> leav, no, linux has never been immune to cached writes not making it to disk on sudden power outage
[7:22] <leaverite> BBB has it.
[7:22] <Berg> yeah
[7:22] <Berg> thats messy
[7:22] <Berg> use batteries
[7:22] <Berg> big ones
[7:22] <Berg> :)
[7:23] <leaverite> I try, after such sudden blackouts, to reboot several times, giving the linux a chance to cproperly close old files from when it was killed. but that's not always possible.
[7:24] <muldoon> fsck is your friend .. it can usually correct most problems
[7:24] <pmumble> i lost my whole drive yesterday to a power outage. it bricked the ssd completely. not even partitionable anymore.
[7:24] <leaverite> big betteries greatly complicate the installation.
[7:24] <pmumble> hence setting up backups
[7:24] <pmumble> but that's ssd....
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[7:24] <Berg> hay its not complicated
[7:25] <Berg> we need a pi you can plug into a lemon
[7:25] <leaverite> muldoon, roger that. and that's the advantage of a couple reboot cycles after a sudden outage.
[7:25] <Berg> <--has all the best ideas
[7:25] <muldoon> the APC smartups at best buy is not complicated..
[7:25] <leaverite> even works on windoze. when they start slowing down on stratup or shutdown.
[7:26] <Berg> rude word alert
[7:26] <leaverite> Yeah, and APC ( UPS) at least gives you time to shut down properly.
[7:27] <leaverite> Berg, which one ? micro$loth ?
[7:27] <Berg> well because pi is 5v i bought a cig light plug in usb sokcktet
[7:27] <Berg> arr another rude word
[7:27] <Berg> i also have house power in 12v battery bank
[7:27] <Berg> it can run off the 12v batteries
[7:28] <Berg> 350amp hours aprox
[7:28] <Berg> anothewr 110 amp hours runs the lights in the house
[7:28] <leaverite> big $$$
[7:28] <Berg> 200amp hours runs my shed
[7:28] <Berg> not realy
[7:29] <Berg> im swaving heaps with solar
[7:29] <Berg> its free energy
[7:29] <Berg> well its not free i paid for it but its unlimited
[7:29] <leaverite> how much did the solar panels cost?
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[7:29] <Berg> ther 3.5kw system cost 3,700
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[7:29] <leaverite> I priced one that provided 50W nearly $100!!
[7:29] <Berg> the batteries cost 1k
[7:30] <Berg> thats too much
[7:30] <Berg> if you pay more then 1 dollar a watt then itds a rip o9ff
[7:30] <Berg> 100 watts 100 bucks
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[7:31] <muldoon> I keep my network equipment on UPS, but then have pi's and access points on PoE, so as long as the network has power, the pi's have power. I have about 60 minutes runtime on power outage
[7:31] <leaverite> with all the typhoons here in Philippines, haveing something that could catch a wind and get blown away wouldld be both dangerous and expensive.
[7:31] <Berg> get a wind turbine
[7:31] <Berg> i would
[7:31] <Berg> i have a wind turbine here
[7:31] <Berg> it creates power at night some times
[7:32] <Berg> thats just bonus
[7:32] <leaverite> with typhoon speed winds that might not work so well.
[7:32] <Berg> sure it will
[7:32] <Berg> i just make the turbine stronger and add batteries
[7:32] <Berg> heheh
[7:32] <Berg> i made the turbine
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[7:32] <muldoon> it's not the wind speed.. its the things the wind picks up and then hurls at the turbine at wind speeds..
[7:33] <Berg> here have a peek
[7:33] <leaverite> I'm in the 'Visatyas' of the Philippines. last year every typhoon that hit the PI made landfall in Samar, then came and stayed a day or so.
[7:33] <Berg> http://gallery.anotherpower.com/main.php/v/bergs+place/?g2_GALLERYSID=ffc6d9d551841a13af20bff3f94f1345
[7:33] <Berg> yeah we got a lot of them here too
[7:33] <Berg> windy day
[7:33] <leaverite> s/Visatyas/Visayas/
[7:33] <pmumble> nice berg :D
[7:33] <Berg> anyway thats my goofing about with poower
[7:34] <Berg> im still advanceing it
[7:34] <leaverite> but if no typhoon it's as still as death here.
[7:34] <Berg> takes time and money not so much money these days
[7:34] <leaverite> you can see the coconut trees, not budging an inch!!
[7:34] <Berg> yeah thats no good leaverite
[7:35] <Berg> i get wind every afternood mostly not a lot but its here
[7:35] <leaverite> tell me about it. and the electric Co. is about as competent in their job as dead rats!
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[7:36] <leaverite> so, has anybody upgraded to the Gen2 PI or for that matter looked at the ODroid ?
[7:36] <Berg> well least you know the dead rat is there by the smell electric company im n ot so sure its that diff
[7:36] <Berg> i have pi 2
[7:37] <muldoon> i have pi2 also
[7:37] <leaverite> mine is a B two or more years old.
[7:37] <leaverite> not even a B+
[7:37] <Berg> the best part is the new one is the same price as the first
[7:37] <leaverite> anda BBB ver B.
[7:38] <Berg> that and it supports a real OS makes it worthy of my time
[7:38] * Berg flexes
[7:38] <leaverite> FED-EX saying they deliver Anywhere is a dang lie. d closest point is some 4 hours away , one way.
[7:39] <leaverite> Tacloban Leyte where Ruby and MacArthur came ashore.
[7:39] <leaverite> Actually Ruby swiped southern Samar first.
[7:40] <Berg> is your island that big?
[7:40] <leaverite> , not really, was just in the path coming west from the pacific.
[7:41] <Berg> by the way im in australia
[7:41] <Berg> we got lots cyclones from villa and that
[7:41] <leaverite> Samar is the island just south of the long peninsula of Luzon.
[7:41] <Berg> they need a big wall on the islands
[7:42] <leaverite> Rgr Australia!
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[7:42] <Berg> whats rgr
[7:42] <leaverite> I used to have a skype buddy there. was from wick Scotland but had lived in Australia for 30 years. had a thick brogue from both places.
[7:43] <leaverite> f rgr = Roger as in Roger That. or I roger your message number ??? ...
[7:43] <Berg> them scotts are dangerous they gets angry fast
[7:43] <Berg> ok
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[7:44] <Berg> you know what is ni8ce when you turn the power on and you know you made it
[7:44] <leaverite> I'm Texan but some Scottish decent. But I used to play the pipes. and BRother THAT takes patience of Job!
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[7:45] <Berg> http://gallery.anotherpower.com/main.php/d/28758-2/SDC10492.JPG
[7:45] <Berg> thats the turbine i made if you missed it
[7:45] <Berg> why you in the philipiens?
[7:46] <Berg> thats been through 100k pluss winds
[7:46] <leaverite> Wifey is pinay. from here in Samar even lived in this house when a kid before remodeling that is.
[7:46] <Berg> :)
[7:47] <leaverite> How big is that turbine?
[7:48] <Berg> 1.2m across
[7:48] <Berg> and 600mm high
[7:48] <leaverite> something you see here ( or used to) was a small icecream sign that is S shaped about a meter tall.
[7:48] <Berg> plug a generator into it
[7:49] <leaverite> That doesntsound very big at all.
[7:49] <Berg> i thin k my turbin collats a lot more power
[7:49] <Berg> 4'
[7:49] <Berg> by 2'
[7:49] <Berg> thats pretty big if you got a gail
[7:49] <muldoon> leaver, fellow texan here. where you from?
[7:50] <leaverite> That could be very usefull here. a day before the typhoon hits SAMELCO shuts the power off. and if it's a direct hit on any part of samar, likely the power will be off for 3 to 5 weeks.
[7:50] <Berg> ok wish me luck rebooting after upgrade
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[7:51] <leaverite> Born San Angelo Texas. lived most of my life in S. Texas from around Victoria, Schroeder, Goliad, Cuero and finally San Antonio.
[7:51] <leaverite> Good luck!
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[7:52] <leaverite> Where you at/from ?
[7:52] <leaverite> But I also lived in Paris
[7:53] <leaverite> ..... Texas
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[7:53] <muldoon> houston, family from san marcos, la grange, flatonia..
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[7:54] <leaverite> got one son living in The Woodlands close to Spring, another up in Lubbock and another working for M$ in Redmond Wash.
[7:54] <muldoon> if you were to look on a map from la grange to flatonia, you would find my username, population 181
[7:55] <leaverite> He's a bit of a Star Wars fan and Iaccuse him of going over to the dark side.
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[7:55] <leaverite> can beatcha there. my Mom is from Eastland Texas.
[7:55] <muldoon> ehh.. my ex-wife used to work for microsoft, that was when we lived in colorado springs tho. MS is not 100% bad, just drawn that way
[7:56] <muldoon> eastland, never heard of it
[7:56] <leaverite> when you drive down the road you come upon a sign that says entering Easlnand on BOTH Sides.
[7:56] <muldoon> nice
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[7:57] <leaverite> Coleman, Ridsing Star, and Avbilene
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[7:57] <leaverite> Coleman, Ridsing Star, and Abilene
[7:59] <leaverite> Have you ever heard of leaverite ?
[7:59] <muldoon> nope
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[8:00] <leaverite> When ya go thru a tourist place where they sell souvenirs and ya tell your mom you want this or that. she describes it as leaverite. as in Leave 'er right there.!!
[8:01] <leaverite> also applies to rocks little boys like topick up and put in their pockets.
[8:02] <muldoon> gotcha..
[8:02] <leaverite> actually learned that from my Grandpa when I was in first grade. about 64 years ago.
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[8:03] <leaverite> anyway, we're way off topic and I need to go try to burn that sdhc card.
[8:03] <leaverite> hope you still here when I get back.
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[8:04] <leaverite> but if you in Hou. probably not. it's already VERY late there.
[8:04] <leaverite> about 1 AM ?
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[8:09] <tawr> muldoon, ah nice, we're kind of close
[8:09] <muldoon> yeah .. 1ish, working on another project so back and forth. good luck leaver
[8:09] <muldoon> tawr, where you from?
[8:10] <tawr> I'm far south Texas now but I lived in NS Houston for about 5 years, loved it
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[8:10] <tawr> around 1960/i45 area, went to ponderosa middle/high
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[8:11] <muldoon> tawr, thats about 30 minutes from where I am right now.. they just had the spring crawfish festival over there a few weeks ago..
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[9:08] <Berg> ok running my pi with a remote desktop and have no keyboard or mouse or monitor plugged into it
[9:09] <Berg> i can use it like its on this pc
[9:09] <Berg> itsa wonderfull
[9:09] <chunkyhead> ssh is better
[9:09] <Berg> nar
[9:09] <Berg> you got no colours with ssh
[9:09] <Berg> anyway its so fast it on ly local network its fine
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[9:10] <chunkyhead> ssh has colors
[9:10] <chunkyhead> change .bashrc
[9:11] <pmumble> ansi colors!
[9:11] <chunkyhead> alias
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[9:11] <pmumble> pi is nice with vnc though true
[9:11] <The_Borg> I think its pretty good i have 2 desktops and this one is on the pi
[9:11] <chunkyhead> it's slow though?
[9:11] <Berg> andf this one is on my desktop pc
[9:11] <Berg> not slow at all
[9:11] <chunkyhead> vnc means graphic. gui is slow
[9:12] <Berg> its instant
[9:12] <Berg> nar
[9:12] <The_Borg> its fast enough for me
[9:12] <The_Borg> see even berg agrees
[9:12] <chunkyhead> weird
[9:12] <The_Borg> but hay i have mind control over him
[9:12] <chunkyhead> i always found it slow
[9:13] <chunkyhead> i have* always
[9:13] <The_Borg> a few others said their wifi was slow i find it to be greate
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[9:13] <Berg> i am not a instantanius need for gratification i have patience
[9:13] <chunkyhead> haha
[9:14] <Berg> well its true
[9:14] <Berg> i have the pi2 also
[9:14] <Berg> so if thaT MATTERS
[9:14] <pmumble> why oh why won't my little pi take dns-nameservers on a logical wpa_supplicant interface
[9:14] <Berg> The_Borg: is happy to sit over there with no monitor
[9:15] <Berg> ok running tests in gpio pins
[9:16] <chunkyhead> now i remember. i tried to run kali arm on pi. it was very slow :p
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[9:16] <pmumble> seems ok to me
[9:16] <Berg> running man xtightvncviewer (Commandes) - an X viewer client for VNC
[9:17] <pmumble> kali that is
[9:17] <Berg> first time i tried this so im extatic with my npi
[9:17] <Berg> pi
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[9:17] <chunkyhead> pmumble: pi 2?
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[9:17] <pmumble> yea
[9:17] <chunkyhead> pmumble: i ran it on pi B
[9:17] <chunkyhead> so maybe that was the prob
[9:17] <pmumble> then that is totally understandable
[9:18] <pmumble> :)
[9:18] <chunkyhead> i loved GUI until i was on windows
[9:18] <chunkyhead> then linux happened
[9:18] <chunkyhead> and then i just ended up installed xorg because i like wallpapers
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[9:29] <Berg> i never used wall paper
[9:29] <chunkyhead> Berg: makes things more pleasant
[9:29] <Berg> i think thats a emotional outlet for folks that have no windows in the house
[9:29] <pmumble> i like wallpaper but my terminals always hide it
[9:29] <pmumble> lol
[9:30] <Berg> so ssh wallpaper trhat must be new?
[9:30] <pmumble> theyve got it, or you can go transparent
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[9:30] <Berg> im so extactic over this desktop it allows me to unplug everything but the power the wifi dongle and the jumper leads from the pi
[9:31] <Berg> save me looking at that under power issue box on monitor
[9:31] <pmumble> with a battery you can unplug the power too
[9:31] <Berg> its on a battery
[9:31] <Berg> still need s power lead from battery to pi
[9:32] <pmumble> make it solar
[9:32] <pmumble> you can do it
[9:32] <Berg> no sund
[9:32] <Berg> sun
[9:32] <Berg> i will try
[9:32] <Berg> so for myt next trick im replacing the dogs leg with a pi
[9:33] <Berg> they recon you do research on animals before doinmg human trials
[9:33] <Armand> "We are the Berg!"
[9:33] <The_Borg> resistance is futile
[9:33] <pmumble> just a pi? or servos?
[9:33] <Armand> lol!
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[9:33] <chunkyhead> berg and borg
[9:33] <Berg> i have a pi 8 channel relays and my power system it controls it
[9:33] <pmumble> oh my
[9:34] <pmumble> what a lucky dog
[9:34] <Berg> my dog is named wally
[9:34] <Armand> Where's Wally ?
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[9:34] <Armand> Sorry, someone had to. :P
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[9:34] <Berg> he's eating his dinner he dont klnow about the cyborg l;eg yet
[9:34] <pmumble> lol
[9:35] <Berg> http://gallery.anotherpower.com/main.php/d/28620-2/SDC10464.JPG
[9:35] <chunkyhead> willy wonka
[9:35] <Berg> wally wanker
[9:35] <pmumble> he has a pilates machine
[9:36] <pmumble> what a lucky dog
[9:36] <chunkyhead> pilot's machine
[9:36] <Berg> yep and a media center
[9:36] <pmumble> he does look like a wally
[9:36] <Berg> he also has a tv
[9:36] <Berg> yeah thaTS WHAT I THOUGHT
[9:36] <Berg> first time i saw him i thought wally
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[9:37] <Berg> i like sitting about in here the idea for remote descktop came from question time in here
[9:37] <Berg> wonderfrull place
[9:38] <pmumble> well the mystery is solved. resolvconf was not installed. linux is a constant puzzle challenge. who needs games when there are so many things to configure.
[9:38] <The_Borg> ok im bored what next?
[9:38] <The_Borg> ha i see
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[9:39] <The_Borg> well for me i could not install the remote desktop program it was missing from my mint mate repo i spent all day upgrading my os now its fix
[9:39] <The_Borg> find libs is fun
[9:39] <pmumble> sounds like linux
[9:40] <Berg> sounds like a chalenge
[9:40] <Berg> we have the techgnology we can rebuild it
[9:40] <Berg> 6billion dollar president
[9:40] <Berg> :)
[9:41] <chunkyhead> does anyone remember oswal?
[9:41] <chunkyhead> tiny tv
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[9:41] <Berg> oswal was a pet goanna that lived with aunty ethol
[9:42] <Berg> she ate it one winter
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[9:43] <pmumble> i dont
[9:43] <pmumble> im too old >.<
[9:44] <chunkyhead> the dog was called weenie
[9:44] <chunkyhead> lol
[9:44] <pmumble> i had to look it up
[9:44] <pmumble> looks weird
[9:44] <chunkyhead> pmumble: it is
[9:45] <chunkyhead> so are/were the peope who watch it
[9:45] <chunkyhead> you'll feel time slowing down when u watch it
[9:45] <Berg> how old is too old?
[9:45] <pmumble> not too old
[9:46] <pmumble> just too old to be watching cartoons in 2004, unless i was maybe on lsd or something
[9:46] <Berg> pmumble im too old >.<
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[9:46] <Berg> i stopped watchi ng cartoons in 1968
[9:46] <Berg> heheh
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[9:47] <pmumble> yeah you've got a few on me
[9:47] <Berg> n ow im not too old to watch cartoons
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[9:47] <Berg> i think you need cartoons when you finnished weeding the garden
[9:48] <Armand> Damn, got a few on me too, old man. :P
[9:48] <Berg> so where do they hide the raspbery for the desktop in the pi?
[9:48] <chunkyhead> behind the monitor
[9:49] <Berg> im not old i know a lot of deaqd folks that all
[9:49] <chunkyhead> i mean i would do that
[9:49] <pmumble> lol
[9:49] <Armand> Underneath the RAM chip. ;)
[9:49] <Berg> what folder?
[9:49] <chunkyhead> /etc/
[9:49] <Berg> sheesh kids
[9:49] <Armand> ^_^
[9:49] <Berg> thanks
[9:49] <chunkyhead> wait i have no idea what you are asking
[9:49] <chunkyhead> i just typed in a directory :p
[9:50] <Berg> i know
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[9:50] <chunkyhead> i feel retarded now
[9:50] <Berg> you see the etc folder has a billion and 1
[9:50] <pmumble> i was confused for a moment, that was fun
[9:50] <Berg> i never get confused well not that i remember
[9:50] <Berg> :)
[9:51] <chunkyhead> that confirms you are very old
[9:51] <Berg> nar
[9:51] <Armand> I'm 36 and I
[9:51] <Armand> ffs
[9:51] <Armand> I'm 36 and I'm already looking at false teeth or implants. >_<
[9:52] <Berg> its ok crasshopper
[9:52] <chunkyhead> i'm 21 and i
[9:52] <Armand> "crasshopper".. Me likey. :D
[9:52] <chunkyhead> am
[9:52] <chunkyhead> hungry
[9:52] <Berg> i just ate dinner
[9:52] <chunkyhead> what did you have
[9:52] <jzaw> in this care home they serve tea at 4pm
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[9:52] <jzaw> everything stops for tea
[9:53] <Berg> we had fried toe nails and eye crust gravy
[9:53] <Armand> jzaw: They even let you out of the padded room ?
[9:53] <chunkyhead> sounds very appetizing
[9:53] <Berg> well everything stops here at 10am mornin g tea
[9:53] <Berg> and 3pm afternoon tea
[9:53] <Berg> but we call it smoko
[9:53] <jzaw> nah im ok ... the zimmer restricts who i can reach with my stick
[9:54] <Berg> my gran kids remiond me its morning tes time or as we call it here smoko
[9:54] <chunkyhead> smoko is not good for health
[9:54] <Berg> the kids dont smoke
[9:54] <Berg> its just a name of a meal break
[9:54] <chunkyhead> for anyone
[9:55] <Berg> you hug a tree you be fine
[9:55] <Berg> :)
[9:55] <chunkyhead> im 21 preaching no-smoke to someone who's older. i feel funny
[9:55] <Berg> you should
[9:55] <Berg> i hate preachers
[9:55] <jzaw> depends ... a *smoking* nurse in a crisp uniform ...
[9:55] <chunkyhead> the thing is i smoke too :p
[9:55] <jzaw> now that raises the blood flow and heart rate
[9:55] <jzaw> that's good smoking
[9:55] <pmumble> depends what kind of smoke. its not all bad.
[9:56] <chunkyhead> truck smoke is bad
[9:56] <Berg> well your one not to tell anyone the morals of health
[9:56] <Berg> i smoke for 50 years i desiuded to stoip so i did
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[9:56] <pmumble> good for you. that's a tough one.
[9:56] <Berg> not smoked now for a long time
[9:56] <Berg> i forget how long
[9:56] <Berg> nar not tuff
[9:57] <pmumble> was tough for me
[9:57] <Berg> you kids have no will
[9:57] <pmumble> i quit long ago
[9:57] <chunkyhead> lol it's easy man
[9:57] <chunkyhead> u just stop one day
[9:57] <Berg> i cant see the issue in stopping although i hear a lot of whining about anger
[9:57] <chunkyhead> i've done it a thousand times
[9:57] <pmumble> hehe
[9:57] <Armand> I smoke when I feel like it.. I go months or years without
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[9:57] <Berg> nar i just stopped
[9:58] <chunkyhead> i stopped smoking because it kills stamina
[9:58] <Berg> now i can be holier then thou when preacing
[9:58] <Berg> i never worry if folks smoke
[9:58] <TyrfingMjolnir> Anyone tried lemonPi?
[9:58] <Berg> the gov invented tax for smokers to support a lot of things
[9:58] <chunkyhead> haha
[9:59] <Berg> lots of sport was helped by smoking and many many charities
[9:59] <pmumble> is that a clone?
[9:59] <Berg> they all clones are they not?
[9:59] <Berg> what came first?
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[9:59] <chunkyhead> chicken
[9:59] <Berg> wrong it was the egg
[10:00] <jzaw> wrong it was soup ... primordial soup :D
[10:00] <Berg> nope egg
[10:00] <jzaw> made from chicken and egg
[10:00] <chunkyhead> circle of life
[10:00] <pmumble> the chegg
[10:00] <Berg> whats that smell?
[10:01] <Berg> hay can someone invent smellnet toi run on pi?
[10:01] <Armand> Chicken & egg soup came first, actually!
[10:01] <Berg> that would be huge
[10:01] <chunkyhead> twss
[10:01] <Berg> sniffer pi?
[10:01] <Berg> pong pi
[10:02] <Berg> ok so whats a new thing i can do with a pi?
[10:02] <chunkyhead> Berg: pirate radio
[10:02] <Berg> no pirates here to listen to it
[10:02] <jzaw> pirate box ?
[10:02] <stanford_drone> Does anyone know C/C++, Computer Vision/Image Processing, Machine Learning, AI, linux systems programming, or electronics? I'm looking for a programmer to join my Startup. We're going to China (manufacturing is there) from July to November. We're a team of 4. We're building a flying computer. A drone that you can play games with and install apps on.
[10:02] <chunkyhead> Berg: well, then radio..
[10:02] <Berg> over in africa they have pirates
[10:03] <jzaw> arr yea be mistaken master Berg
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[10:03] <jzaw> there be pirates everywhere
[10:03] <Berg> heheh
[10:03] <Berg> you accent was crips and perfect jzaw
[10:03] <Berg> well done
[10:04] <jzaw> years of theatre, don't you know, RADA and all that wot!
[10:04] <chunkyhead> stanford_drone: i dont have any of the mentioned skills. but i'd love to tag along with you guys to china
[10:04] <Berg> why do you have to goto china to develope your dron stanford_drone
[10:04] <pmumble> i dont think lemon pi is out yet? https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/lemon-pi-35-arm-quad-core-a9-open-source-board#/story
[10:04] <ali1234> stanford_drone: i have, but i don't want to go to china
[10:05] <chunkyhead> Berg: cheap manufacturing
[10:05] <Berg> ThinkingofPython: IS ALREADY IN CHINA
[10:05] <Berg> HE has a backpack with a pi in it
[10:06] <Berg> if his pi could fly he would not have to carry it
[10:06] <Berg> :)
[10:07] <chunkyhead> pi makes people fatter
[10:07] <Armand> pmumble: I'd be more impressed if it were ARMv8, but it doesn't appear to offer much over the ODroid C1.
[10:08] <pmumble> i'm not up on the variants yet, i just got into this whole business a couple of weeks ago.
[10:08] <Armand> If that eMMC is hard-mounted, forget about it.
[10:08] <Armand> And it only has 10/100 NIC
[10:09] <pmumble> that's one thing i wish was different about the pi
[10:09] <pmumble> but, i guess there are ones out there that have 1000
[10:09] <Berg> im new too
[10:09] <Armand> http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G141578608433
[10:09] <chunkyhead> can the pi2 run ubuntu
[10:09] <Armand> Gigabit. :D
[10:09] <Berg> started one week ago
[10:09] <ali1234> chunkyhead: yes
[10:09] <chunkyhead> !bot
[10:09] <Berg> they say it can chunkyhead
[10:09] <pmumble> that looks nice. does it fit in the rpi case?
[10:10] <chunkyhead> well this chan doesn't have a bot
[10:10] <Berg> ask them to make one
[10:10] <stanford_drone> Berg, china has manufacturers and suppliers.
[10:10] <Berg> call it THE_BORG_v2
[10:10] <chunkyhead> I was curious. because pi B couldn't. ubuntu said it supports arm7+
[10:10] <stanford_drone> chunkyhead, ali1234 if only you two would merge into one person.
[10:10] <ali1234> chunkyhead: yes that is correct
[10:10] <pmumble> they also have the great firewall. what if they dont like your drone business?
[10:11] <Berg> well stanford_drone there are poeople asleep here already in china
[10:11] <Berg> ask them later
[10:11] <pmumble> i would not try to build drones in china
[10:11] <chunkyhead> stanford_drone: but but but.. i got my passport only recently :(
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[10:11] <ali1234> Berg: it's 4PM in china
[10:11] <Berg> hence ask them later
[10:11] <Armand> 9:11am in the UK
[10:11] <Berg> njo good now
[10:11] <chunkyhead> 1.41 pm in india
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[10:12] <Berg> 6.11pm here
[10:12] <ali1234> AU?
[10:12] <Berg> wow how time flies
[10:12] <Berg> correct
[10:12] <ShorTie> 4:12am here
[10:12] <chunkyhead> anyone wants to go to bermuda triangle
[10:12] <chunkyhead> omg ShorTie
[10:12] <chunkyhead> it's been ages since i saw you
[10:12] <Berg> :)
[10:13] <chunkyhead> not that i know you. but still it's good to see a familiar username
[10:13] <chunkyhead> s/nick
[10:13] <pmumble> Armand: do you have one of these odroid c1s?
[10:13] <ShorTie> just like bad breath, i've been here
[10:14] <Berg> mouth mints
[10:14] <chunkyhead> i was busy. haven't been online much
[10:14] <Berg> ooo look another use for a pi a auto mouth mint dispencer with pong detector
[10:14] <chunkyhead> beer dispencer would be fun
[10:15] <stanford_drone> haha
[10:16] <Berg> i saw a pi balancing on 2 wheels and dilivering drinks
[10:16] <Berg> that was so cool
[10:17] <Berg> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/O6XkH84JYjU/mqdefault.jpg
[10:18] <chunkyhead> it just has 2 tires. centre of gravity isn't stable
[10:18] <Berg> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW8uvDtTh7U
[10:18] <Berg> watch
[10:19] <Berg> as far as i can see its pretty stable
[10:19] <chunkyhead> how does it balance
[10:19] <chunkyhead> wow
[10:19] <Berg> magic
[10:19] <chunkyhead> call it magic?
[10:21] <pmumble> its like a segue for hamsters
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[10:21] <pmumble> segway?
[10:21] <pmumble> thats pretty amazing
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[10:22] <Armand> pmumble: I have the U3.. I'm putting aside �300 to buy 5 C1s next time I visit the USA.
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[10:23] <day> this pbox thing looked so promising. m.2 5 ethernet ports. obviously it didnt make it past a twitter post >.>
[10:23] <pmumble> nice
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[10:28] <The_Borg> well that was fun to watch
[10:28] <pmumble> there we go. automated bacula network backups on both pis. now i do not fear the sd reaper.
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[10:29] <The_Borg> nice
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[10:29] <The_Borg> can you clone a sd card?
[10:29] <Armand> Yup
[10:29] <chunkyhead> yes
[10:29] <Armand> DD
[10:29] <chunkyhead> dd
[10:29] <The_Borg> like take the card from this and make a copy?
[10:29] <chunkyhead> yes
[10:29] <Armand> Pow! Too slow, chunkyhead :P
[10:29] <chunkyhead> Armand: :(
[10:29] <ShorTie> i can make an image of it while it's running
[10:30] <chunkyhead> double d's
[10:30] <The_Borg> so how do i do i9t on mint just get a new card and copy and past to it?
[10:30] <ShorTie> on the sdcard or on another usb device
[10:30] <The_Borg> on the sd card
[10:30] <The_Borg> i wona clone the one i have and put it in a new pi
[10:31] <The_Borg> and keep for back up
[10:31] <chunkyhead> google dd
[10:31] <Armand> Do NOT copy & paste
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[10:31] <chunkyhead> lol copy paste
[10:31] <Armand> Make an image of the card
[10:31] <ShorTie> ya, on the sdcard, as it is running
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[10:31] <chunkyhead> Armand: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Disk_cloning#Using_dd
[10:31] <Armand> chunkyhead: I know.. :)
[10:32] <chunkyhead> Armand: your name tickles my curiousity
[10:32] <Armand> Personally, I would shut it down and image it to a PC's HDD.
[10:32] <ShorTie> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=737900
[10:32] <The_Borg> krick
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[10:32] <chunkyhead> ShorTie: oh yeah. rsync works too
[10:32] <Armand> chunkyhead: Feel free to PM me.. Far too off-topic. :P
[10:33] <ShorTie> plus it a minimal image, so no great goobs of free space
[10:34] <The_Borg> thanks ShorTie
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[10:34] <ShorTie> if you just want to clone a sdcard, you can use rpi-clone
[10:35] <chunkyhead> ShorTie: which is the faster option?
[10:36] <ShorTie> on another usb device
[10:36] <chunkyhead> usb->sdcard
[10:36] <Berg> i have a sd card reader usb here w
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[10:36] <Berg> that should be fun?
[10:36] <ShorTie> it canbe any thing, but ya a sdcard
[10:36] <chunkyhead> ShorTie: i meant which soft. approach is faster
[10:37] <Berg> so it will card to card easy?
[10:37] <chunkyhead> dd/rsync/rpi-clone
[10:37] <chunkyhead> soft.=software
[10:37] <ShorTie> rpi-clone uses rsync
[10:38] <ShorTie> dd you can not be using the sdcard
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[10:39] <The_Borg> got that sh file looks good
[10:39] <The_Borg> filr to device
[10:39] <The_Borg> file
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[10:39] <ShorTie> rpi-clone is for card to card
[10:39] * Berg kicks The_Borg
[10:39] <Berg> yep
[10:39] <Berg> the card reader
[10:40] <chunkyhead> alright
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[10:42] <Berg> can you start a pi with a blank sd card and make it write to card?
[10:42] <Berg> sorry if i sound like on other planet
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[10:43] <ShorTie> nop
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[10:43] <ShorTie> gotta have a fat partition with some stuff in it
[10:44] <Berg> ok ill just plug the sd card reader into the first pi
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[10:44] <Berg> actualy that makes life very simple
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[10:57] <Gamer1204> Hello, I followed this tutorial (http://elinux.org/RPI-Wireless-Hotspot) and I have a hotspot, but the only problem is, my devices are stuck on connecting with it. On my android tablet it stucks on ¨receiving ip-adress¨. Can anyone please help me?
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[11:00] <Berg> what device are they connecting to?
[11:00] <Berg> your router?
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[11:00] <pmumble> he's trying to set up his pi as a wireless access point for his devices
[11:00] <Gamer1204> I tried to make a wifi hotspot out of my raspberry pi, itś connect through an ethernet cable to my router.
[11:00] <Berg> ooo
[11:00] <pmumble> i haven't attempted that yet.. maybe tomorrow :)
[11:00] <Gamer1204> connected*
[11:01] <Berg> i never had any issues making a wifi connection on pi
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[11:01] <Gamer1204> My problem lies in having other devices getting connected to my hotspot.
[11:02] <Berg> you got raspbian in your pi Gamer1204
[11:02] <Gamer1204> Yes, fully updated and all.
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[11:03] <ShorTie> sortta sounds like dhcp isn't working
[11:03] <Berg> ok your ip it says to configure in the hot spot what is the ip of your pi?
[11:03] <Berg> yeah
[11:04] <Berg> the instructions on ho0w to9 set it up are a bit vague
[11:04] <Gamer1204> I am no expert to hotspots, but I followed the guide. Do you mean my internal ip from my router to my pi? Or just the IP I have been using to route the hotspot through?
[11:05] <Berg> yes you pi ip on the lan connection
[11:05] <Gamer1204> That is 192.168.0.116
[11:05] <Berg> it looks like it might conflick with the one in your hotspot
[11:05] <Gamer1204> my hotspot uses the 192.168.42.x
[11:05] <Berg> did you fix the ip to your device with its mac address?
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[11:06] <Gamer1204> No I did not
[11:06] <Berg> i would fix the pi ip dont let it be dynamic
[11:07] <Berg> get your pi mac address and define the ip you want your router to assign
[11:07] <Gamer1204> Yeah, probably better.
[11:07] <Berg> i dont see why its messing up other than conflict
[11:07] <Gamer1204> I made it static
[11:08] <Berg> reboot it all
[11:08] <Berg> maybe the an droid too
[11:08] <Gamer1204> the pi and the android, or the router too?
[11:09] <Berg> just the pi and andriod
[11:09] <Berg> your router should be fine
[11:09] <Berg> a nd make sure the pi is up and running before the android
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[11:09] <Gamer1204> will do
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[11:11] <Gamer1204> same issue as before
[11:11] <Berg> on the pi in command terminal typo in ifconfig
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[11:12] <Gamer1204> yeah I did that, the wlan0 adress is weird(in my eyes)
[11:12] <Berg> hmm
[11:12] <Berg> why?
[11:12] <Berg> whats it got
[11:12] <ShorTie> like what ??
[11:12] <Gamer1204> I expectede it to be 192.168.42.ish
[11:13] <Gamer1204> inet addr:169.254.77.2 Bcast:169.254.255.255
[11:13] <Gamer1204> But that is what it really is
[11:13] <niston> MSAPIP
[11:13] * ShorTie thinkz, pi's don't make good hotspots because of the limited usb bandwidth
[11:14] <Berg> i dont understand why the ip is that
[11:14] <day> dont forget the ethernet/usb bottlenecking :x
[11:14] <Gamer1204> neither do I
[11:14] <Berg> is the hotspot program set right
[11:14] <ShorTie> means it is not getting a ipaddress
[11:14] <Berg> yea
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[11:14] <Gamer1204> I followed http://elinux.org/RPI-Wireless-Hotspot
[11:14] <Berg> for it in network connectiuons?
[11:14] <Berg> force it
[11:15] <Gamer1204> So if that guide is correct, I expect my settings are too
[11:15] <Gamer1204> iface wlan0 inet static
[11:15] <Gamer1204> adress 192.168.42.1
[11:15] <Gamer1204> netmask 255.255.255.0
[11:15] <Gamer1204> Is what I did
[11:15] <Berg> wasnt it spose to be 2?
[11:16] <pmumble> did you spell address like that
[11:16] <Berg> no ok the ip for use is 2
[11:16] <pmumble> or did you use 2 d's
[11:16] <Gamer1204> ooo, I can spell
[11:16] <Gamer1204> can´t
[11:16] <pmumble> i've done that...
[11:16] <pmumble> is why i know...
[11:16] <pmumble> lol
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[11:17] <Berg> recheck all the config file
[11:17] <Gamer1204> doing that
[11:17] <Berg> i have left a " or a )
[11:17] <Berg> and wonder whats rong with the line its failing on
[11:17] <Berg> its failing on the line before
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[11:19] <Gamer1204> I was confused at first, I only have 1 wifi adapter, but in the network/interfaces file there was a wlan0 and a wlan1?
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[11:19] <Berg> what does ifconfig say about the second?
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[11:20] <Berg> how many adapters you have in real life?
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[11:20] <Gamer1204> nothing at the moment, I did comment it out O:-) Because it was not present before I re-imaged the sd card
[11:21] <Gamer1204> I got a few, and they all have a purpose,so I am only using this one on this pi
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[11:22] <Berg> goto your preferencesx and see WiFi configure
[11:23] <Berg> see what it says about your adapeter
[11:24] <Gamer1204> Where do I go?
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[11:25] <Berg> in your pi menu
[11:25] <The_Borg> preferences
[11:25] <The_Borg> WiFi Configuration
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[11:25] <Gamer1204> I am using ssh only, this being a headless machine, so I assume I have to use raspi-config or something alike?
[11:25] <Berg> sorry jumped on me pi
[11:26] <Berg> umm
[11:26] <ShorTie> raspi-config works headlessly
[11:26] <Berg> well i am using remote desktop
[11:26] <Berg> so cant help there
[11:27] <Gamer1204> I see no wifi settings in raspi-config
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[11:28] <Gamer1204> But I used it before to download torrents through the wifi adapter, so the thing works
[11:28] <Berg> i c ant see any either
[11:28] <pmumble> you can see your wifi connection in the shell with iwconfig
[11:29] <Berg> and its ip now is?
[11:29] <pmumble> if you want to know what network you're connected to or whatever
[11:29] <Gamer1204> wlan0 IEEE 802.11bgn Mode:Master Tx-Power=20 dBm
[11:29] <Gamer1204> Retry short limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off
[11:29] <Gamer1204> Power Management:off
[11:29] <Gamer1204> O hey, ifconfig now looks good
[11:29] <pmumble> none atm
[11:30] <Berg> try connecting your android
[11:30] <Gamer1204> it works
[11:30] <Berg> ok
[11:30] <Gamer1204> speed test atm
[11:30] <Gamer1204> 15mb up, 20 down
[11:30] <Berg> it had a head ache
[11:31] <Berg> i blame globale warming
[11:31] <Gamer1204> That is still slower than my internet package, but it works
[11:31] <Gamer1204> hehe I do too
[11:31] <Gamer1204> Thanks for your help guys
[11:31] <Berg> good fun
[11:31] <Berg> all learning
[11:32] <Gamer1204> spelling errors and global warming, nobody warned me for that when I was born
[11:32] <Berg> best go slap mum and get it off your chest
[11:32] <Berg> youi cant go through life with that guilt
[11:33] <Gamer1204> Well, she lifes quite a bit away....
[11:33] <Berg> remember to have you pi up and running before trying to connect
[11:33] <Gamer1204> I will have to wait for the next birthday or whatever
[11:33] <Gamer1204> I will ;)
[11:33] <Berg> makes me wona get a second pi
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[11:34] <Berg> a router that balances on two wheels and chases mlemons
[11:34] <Gamer1204> damn melons!
[11:34] <Gamer1204> I have got 2
[11:34] <Gamer1204> the old mobel b+ and tje new model b
[11:34] <Gamer1204> and a week later they release model c :´(
[11:35] <Berg> i have pi 2
[11:35] <Berg> new one
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[11:35] <Gamer1204> nice
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[11:37] <Gamer1204> My issue with the pies is that whenever I try to use them for a media centre, I always end up having stuttering, I raise the output from the hdmi and it kinda fades, but it still stays present, that was after some update from xbmc(openelec still has this problem for me)
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[11:39] <Berg> im not much interested in being entertained by sounds so media is not my quest
[11:40] <Gamer1204> Fair enough
[11:41] <Berg> :)
[11:41] <Berg> being tone deaf and very un co-ordinated for dancing makes music obsolete
[11:41] <day> pis make awesome ssh/cli servers for every day stuff
[11:41] <Berg> heherh
[11:41] <ShorTie> i thought you lowered the resolution to get rid of the stuttering
[11:42] <day> but for video stuff i would rather get a nuc
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[11:43] <Gamer1204> Sound or video, the stutters do stay the same, somethimes I am lucky and have none, and somethings I have loads, same files. I do not really understand
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[11:54] <Berg> :)
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[12:11] <leosw> Hello world
[12:11] <leosw> I'm using RPi to monitor 3d printer and I need mjpg-streamer on it
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[12:12] <leosw> It works during 3-4min and then I have "Unable to dequeue buffer : input/output error" and then nothing
[12:12] <leosw> I've found many users with that bug on the net but no answers anywhere
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[12:18] <ShorTie> what kind of camera are you using ??
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[13:00] <Kunsi> anyone familiar with ethernet switches? i need a new switch, >8 ports, gigabit, <150€, best would be snmp capable and PoE on configurable ports
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[13:00] <ShorTie> sounds more like a router
[13:01] <Kunsi> no, no router. a switch
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[13:02] <ShorTie> sorry, miss read PoE
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[13:50] <niston> I'd be surprised if you find something
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[13:54] <niston> double the price and you get http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122586
[13:54] <niston> else choose any one of these: snmp/poe
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[14:11] <ThinkingofPython> If a device runs on 5V, and pulls 5W
[14:12] <ThinkingofPython> how much amps will it use?
[14:12] <rdz> 1A
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[14:12] <rdz> P = U * I ... so: I = P / U
[14:13] <ThinkingofPython> Ah nice
[14:13] <ThinkingofPython> thought so, thanks rdz :)
[14:13] <ThinkingofPython> Its crazy on how Intel Atom 3735f runs on 5v 1a
[14:14] <ozzzy> my pcm9363 sbc draws 980mA
[14:14] <ozzzy> dual core atom, 2g ram, vga, eth, 6xusb, sata
[14:14] <rdz> Hi all. I'm wondering if there is any chance to get the wolfson pi audio card running with kernel > 3.10. is there any pre-compiled kernel for raspbian around somewhere?
[14:14] <ThinkingofPython> Hmm, I'm looking at an Intel stick clone
[14:14] <ThinkingofPython> quad atom, 2g ram, ethernet, hdmi, 4usb
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[14:27] <NedScott> those little baytrail ATOM processors are great for their price
[14:27] <NedScott> I think they're baytrail?
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[14:27] <NedScott> I got a little 7 inch windows tablet for $60 that has one
[14:28] <NedScott> haven't gotten around to uninstalling Windows yet
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[14:28] <NedScott> but still a great deal :D
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[14:30] <ThinkingofPython> Yeah Im torn between buying a Atom based tablet (same specs as the Intel stick) for $70
[14:31] <ThinkingofPython> or an Intel stick clone for $80
[14:31] <ThinkingofPython> Size vs functionality
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[14:34] <NedScott> I bought it just to dink around with
[14:34] <NedScott> as a tablet, it's horrible, lol
[14:34] <NedScott> at least windows 8.1 is not a great tablet OS
[14:34] <ThinkingofPython> ah whats so bad about it?
[14:35] <NedScott> not a lot of apps are "metro"ized or whatever it's called, and even the ones that are don't always...
[14:35] <NedScott> they're not great
[14:35] <NedScott> like VLC
[14:35] <ThinkingofPython> so what happens?
[14:35] <ThinkingofPython> Never used a windows tablet before
[14:36] <NedScott> well, for VLC they're just missing a lot of stuff. The interface is clunky.
[14:36] <NedScott> of course, you can use the normal version, but it's hard on a screen that small :)
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[14:36] <NedScott> sometimes windows freaks out when the screen rotates
[14:37] <NedScott> and things are in odd places. Like accessing screen brightness feels like it takes way too many swipes and taps
[14:37] <NedScott> Android and iOS are so much smoother on a tablet
[14:37] <ThinkingofPython> ah yes Ive heard of that
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[14:38] <ThinkingofPython> Yeah, the tablet (and stick) both have dual boot
[14:38] <ThinkingofPython> android 4.4 or Win 8.1
[14:38] <day> annoying thing in android is the task manager. why doesnt it close if i click on an empty space >.>
[14:38] <ThinkingofPython> Just thinking I wont need th tabletr
[14:38] <day> why cant i bind apps to virtual desktops? >.>
[14:39] <day> why does playback stop if i minimize apps?
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[14:40] <catphish> is there any way to feed mpeg ts streams to a rPi?
[14:40] <NedScott> I pretend the screen isn't there :D
[14:40] <NedScott> and use it for Kodi
[14:41] <NedScott> I even bought a USB ethernet dongle for it. I could use it as a server :D
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[14:44] <catphish> i'm looking for a device that supports 4 MPEG TS inputs, seems to be quite a tricky requirement :(
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[14:44] <catphish> but i thought if the rPi supported even a single stream, it would help me understand and prototype
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[14:52] <willmore> Is jessie considered stable for the rpi?
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[14:54] <shiftplusone> by whom?
[14:55] <willmore> People who know. :)
[14:55] <ozzzy> is any OS ever stable
[14:55] <shiftplusone> It's considered unsupported by the foundation for now.
[14:55] <willmore> shiftplusone, that's what I'm looking for, thanks.
[14:55] <shiftplusone> as far as raspbian itself is concerned, it tracks debian and debian deems jessie stable.
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[14:56] <willmore> I saw that on their site. Does the foundation have specific reservations with jessie?
[14:56] <willmore> Or is it a "we're working on it, we're not done, just hold for a bit"?
[14:56] <shiftplusone> No, it's just that their (well, our) repo isn't ready
[14:56] <shiftplusone> the raspberrypi.org repo
[14:56] <willmore> okay, makes sense.
[14:56] <willmore> Thanks.
[14:57] <shiftplusone> I'm (still) in the process of sorting that out.
[14:57] <willmore> Good luck!
[14:57] <willmore> Half politics, half software, all pain.
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[14:57] <shiftplusone> heh
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[15:16] <McBride36> ozzzy, i'm pretty sure ME is stable by now
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[15:17] <ozzzy> McBride36, yep... no computer has crashed due to ME in several years now
[15:19] <ShorTie> ah, thats no fun .. :/~
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[15:32] <Nine_9> hey guys, I'm having a problem... my pi 2 shows the rainbow on top-right corner no matter what... I've tried lots of adaptors and even my PC psu (using the molex) and no matter what it always display that thing
[15:32] <Nine_9> it's working perfectly though
[15:33] <Nine_9> perhaps there's a way to disable that?
[15:34] <nomis> Nine_9: there is a way to disable that. But if you consistently have this problem then you might want to e.g. exchange the USB cable.
[15:34] <ShorTie> have you tried different micro-usb cables ??
[15:35] <ShorTie> need 1 with like 2-28awg/2-24awg printed on it
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[15:36] <Great-Geek> ShorTie, So, the warning is voltage-dependant ?
[15:36] <nomis> Great-Geek: yeah, it indicates under-voltage
[15:37] <ShorTie> yes sir
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[15:42] <Nine_9> nomis, ShorTie: hmm... is it possible the problem is the cable even though it's not getting hot?
[15:42] <Nine_9> not electronics guy here :P
[15:42] <Great-Geek> What exactly does avoid_warnings=2 do?
[15:42] <Great-Geek> I see it 'enables turbo'
[15:42] <ShorTie> yes.
[15:42] <nomis> Nine_9: yeah. Poor quality cables can have quite a hefty voltage drop.
[15:43] <Nine_9> ShorTie, nomis: I'm going to try another one then.
[15:43] <ShorTie> see phones don't care if you loose a 1/2volt across the cable because you are only charging a 3.7v battery
[15:44] <nomis> Nine_9: (but there also is a config.txt entry to disable that blinking square thing - I don't recall it at the momemt though.
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[15:44] <ShorTie> but a pi like 5vdc +/- 0.2volts
[15:44] <pmjdebruijn> http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#Troubleshooting_power_problems
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[15:45] <pksato> Nine_9: have a voltameter? check voltage on test points or 5v pin on gpio.
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[15:46] <pksato> voltmeter
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[15:46] <pmjdebruijn> or multimeter :D
[15:46] <ShorTie> basically, the rainbow square is a volt meter
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[15:46] <ShorTie> if you see it, your voltage is low
[15:46] <Tenkawa> whats happening all?
[15:47] <pksato> just to check if is not some rpi fault.
[15:47] <pmjdebruijn> ShorTie: huh?
[15:47] <pmjdebruijn> you mean when it gets stuck therE?
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[15:47] <pksato> like resistor out of tolerace
[15:47] <Nine_9> pksato: hmm i'm going to check the voltage there
[15:47] * pmjdebruijn gets that square briefly, while my voltage is quite fine (and have no issues)
[15:47] <ShorTie> sorry, don't understand what your askin
[15:48] <pmjdebruijn> the remark that the rainbow square is a voltmeter doesn't make much sense to me
[15:48] <ShorTie> not if you get that square it's not, plain and simple
[15:49] <pksato> rainbow is a voltage window detector.
[15:49] <pmjdebruijn> http://elinux.org/images/9/9e/Debug-screen.jpg that right
[15:50] <pmjdebruijn> I do see that square, briefly
[15:50] <pmjdebruijn> the rPi then boots fine
[15:50] <nomis> pmjdebruijn: we're not talking about the full screen square at startup.
[15:50] <pmjdebruijn> aaaaah
[15:50] <pksato> B+ have a liitle square, indicating voltage fault.
[15:50] <pmjdebruijn> anybody got in image what it looks like what you're talking about
[15:50] * pmjdebruijn is curious
[15:50] <nomis> pmjdebruijn: sometimes a small rainbow square gets shown in the top right of the screen - when the input voltage is problematic.
[15:51] <pmjdebruijn> ah ok cool
[15:51] <pksato> http://i.imgur.com/hQDBw3a.jpg.
[15:51] <pmjdebruijn> ah cool
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[15:51] <nomis> pmjdebruijn: http://i.imgur.com/673Qw1i.jpg
[15:52] <NedScott> but that's a picture of two naked people hugging
[15:52] <NedScott> wait, wrong browser window
[15:52] <IT_Sean> .....
[15:52] <NedScott> ah, now I see the square
[15:52] <pksato> and power led brink too
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[15:52] <IT_Sean> brink?
[15:52] <pmjdebruijn> blink :)
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[15:53] <IT_Sean> Can i interest you in a side order of flied lice?
[15:53] <McBride36> i love that spelling of yogurt
[15:53] <McBride36> it feels so exotic
[15:53] <pksato> ;)
[15:53] <nomis> IT_Sean: "brink" is the technical term for "blinking red". "bbink" is for blue and "bgink" for green.
[15:53] <IT_Sean> riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
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[15:54] <Nine_9> I just tested the voltage on the input pins and it's a perfect 5.00-5.01V
[15:54] <IT_Sean> perfect.
[15:54] <Nine_9> computer psu is quite good i suppose :)
[15:54] <McBride36> nomis, we should make that a thing
[15:54] <pmjdebruijn> it should be able to handle the "load" :D
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[15:55] <nomis> McBride36: :)
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[15:56] <pksato> Nine_9: check 3v3 line.
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[15:57] <pksato> B+ use this chip to monitor 5V http://www.diodes.com/datasheets/APX803.pdf
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[16:01] <linux_unix-10> hello
[16:01] <Tenkawa> hi
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[16:02] <linux_unix-10> where can i download os images for NOOBS?
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[16:02] <shiftplusone> linux_unix-10: what are you after exactly?
[16:03] <shiftplusone> to answer more directly, http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/
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[16:04] <linux_unix-10> i want to download arch linux, pidora, etc., put them in the "os" folder on my NOOBS sdcard, and install from there with NOOBS
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[16:05] <catphish> https://www.raspberrypi.org/help/noobs-setup/
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[16:06] <shiftplusone> catphish: that doesn't help
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[16:07] <linux_unix-10> shiftplusone: thanks, which file/s do i put in the os folder?
[16:07] <shiftplusone> I don't know, I wouldn't recommend installing that way.
[16:08] <catphish> the documentation suggests that it finds the OSs automatically, does it normally download them for you?
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[16:08] <catphish> "Your Raspberry Pi will boot, and a window will appear with a list of different operating systems that you can install"
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[16:08] <catphish> or do you have to manually put them on the card?
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[16:09] <catphish> https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/ has "Third Party Operating System Images"
[16:09] <linux_unix-10> NOOBS downloads them slower than it should. MUCH slower. I know since Berryboot download OS images faster
[16:09] <catphish> i my link above what you need?
[16:10] <catphish> *is
[16:10] <linux_unix-10> catphish: no
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[16:10] <catphish> ok :(
[16:10] <Tenkawa> brb
[16:10] <shiftplusone> linux_unix-10: you need to download all the files in the directories for the operating system you want
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[16:10] <shiftplusone> for example, http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/osmc_pi2/
[16:11] <HotCoder> yo
[16:11] <shiftplusone> one directory per os
[16:11] <linux_unix-10> keep going...
[16:11] <shiftplusone> is this for a pi 1 or a pi 2?
[16:11] <linux_unix-10> Pi 1 Model B+
[16:11] <shiftplusone> okay, the pidora and arch will work, although they're somewhat abandoned.
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[16:12] <shiftplusone> http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/pidora/ http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/raspbian/archive/2015-05-12-12:58/ http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/arch/
[16:12] <linux_unix-10> I remember something called "GentNOOBS" that was Gentoo for the Pi. It had daily builds in .zip files
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[16:13] <linux_unix-10> the first instruction was to put in it the os folder
[16:14] <HotCoder> i have a question for you guys. how do i make it safe to unplug the rasp pi?
[16:14] <pmjdebruijn> without shutting down?
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[16:14] <HotCoder> so lets say i have it connected, it does its work. after that. i shut down raspbian
[16:14] <pmjdebruijn> then you can just disconnect it from power
[16:15] <pmjdebruijn> once raspbian (or whatever) is fully shutdown
[16:15] <HotCoder> awesome
[16:15] <HotCoder> thank you
[16:15] <shiftplusone> when it shuts down, it will flash the LED some number of times
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[16:16] <pmjdebruijn> HotCoder: so in that sense, it's basically the same as a regular computer, except that it doesn't poweroff on it's own
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[16:17] <HotCoder> awesome
[16:17] <HotCoder> so i shut down rasbian, then wait for led to flash
[16:17] <HotCoder> then unplug?
[16:17] <linux_unix-10> anyway, what directory should i put in the "os" folder. Do I put the whole folder in (i.e. arch, pidora) or a folder inside those?
[16:17] <HotCoder> what if the light is still on?
[16:17] <HotCoder> do i unplug still anyway?
[16:17] <pmjdebruijn> no clue, I never paid attention to that
[16:17] <Kunsi> it's safe to unplug when all lights are off
[16:18] <pmjdebruijn> IIRC, the video output goes blank
[16:18] <HotCoder> thank you
[16:18] <Kunsi> pmjdebruijn: if the lights are still on, there could be some read/write onto your sd card, so you shouldn't unplug yet
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[16:18] <shiftplusone> linux_unix-10: use the full noobs archive as a reference, it already has raspbian there.
[16:18] <linux_unix-10> ok
[16:19] <linux_unix-10> i was using NOOBS lite
[16:19] <pmjdebruijn> Kunsi: presumably I haven't unsafely unplugged
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[16:24] <HotCoder> man
[16:24] <HotCoder> i wish i knew linux :(
[16:24] <McBride36> i learned by starting with the pi!
[16:24] <shiftplusone> that's how you do it, 'man'
[16:25] <McBride36> now i'm greppin' all ova the place
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[16:25] <shiftplusone> McBride36: but are you seddin' ?
[16:25] <McBride36> i do not use sed
[16:25] <McBride36> never really needed to
[16:25] <McBride36> i mean, heck i still use nano instead of vi
[16:26] <shiftplusone> still? there's no reason to use vi nowadays.
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[16:26] <shiftplusone> I certainly don't intend to use vi when there's nano and geany around.
[16:27] <HotCoder> i am a man
[16:27] <HotCoder> and i will learn from the pi
[16:27] <HotCoder> and then i will become hokage!
[16:27] <McBride36> i mean, i rarely edit things on the pi. I mostly just use sshfs and do all of my coding in an ide on my lappy
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[16:28] <HotCoder> McBride36, so what do you do the pi for?
[16:28] <HotCoder> my original purpose of the pi was to learn ruby on it:)
[16:28] <HotCoder> and node.js
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[16:28] <shiftplusone> HotCoder: on the command line, run 'man man'
[16:29] <shiftplusone> and that's the starting point in learning all the linux
[16:29] <McBride36> depends, my work ones are embedded in machines, the one i have at home hosts irc bots and a webserver
[16:30] <HotCoder> McBride36, what kind of machines?
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[16:30] <McBride36> medical testing products, one just tests a load on a catheter
[16:30] <McBride36> i do medical R&D
[16:31] <HotCoder> woow
[16:31] <HotCoder> that must be so cool
[16:31] <day> can i set the pullup/pulldown gpio pin resistors if the pin is configured as an output?
[16:32] <McBride36> its interesting to say the least
[16:32] <day> are the pins tristate? im not sure how to set them to floating with wiringPi.h
[16:32] <nomis> "Medical R&D" sounds like mostly writing documentation on what you're doing. :)
[16:32] <ali1234> day i would expect so. it won't do anything though
[16:32] <McBride36> nomis, only documentation i've written is how to use the machines i develop
[16:32] <nomis> heh, ok :)
[16:32] <ali1234> day check the datasheet https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/bcm2835/BCM2835-ARM-Peripherals.pdf
[16:32] <McBride36> though you're right, there is an insane amount of documentation
[16:33] <nomis> day: you want to configure them as input with no pullup and no pulldown
[16:33] <nomis> day: no experience with wiringPi though.
[16:33] <ali1234> page 89
[16:33] <day> ali1234: well its likely more a question of the libary, because ive no idea how to implement the hardware features into the libary
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[16:34] <ali1234> wiringpi is weird and does weird things
[16:34] <day> damn thats a short datasheet :o
[16:35] <ali1234> it's nowhere near complete
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[16:35] <ali1234> it does cover gpios though
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[16:40] <linux_unix-10> hey guys, i noticed something...when downloading from downloads.raspberrypi.org, the speed (for me at least) doesn't seem to go beyond ~7 KB/s.
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[16:40] <linux_unix-10> the solution was to download using a segmented downloader (I'm using FatRat right now)
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[16:41] <Dry_Lips> I'm looking at one of those plastic cases that comes with heatsinks. Have any of you got experience with attaching heatsinks? Do you just use normal cpu paste?
[16:42] <Tachyon`> not sure the heatsinks are needed at all really
[16:42] <linux_unix-10> I seems that when NOOBS gets the operating systems from here, it will only download no faster than 7 KB/s
[16:42] <linux_unix-10> Maybe that's why it's slow on the Pi
[16:42] <Dry_Lips> Tachyon` ah, okay... Not worth the hassle?
[16:42] <Tachyon`> when I use noobs it downloads the operating systems at about 1.5MiB/second
[16:42] <Kunsi> linux_unix-10: NOOBS downloaded at 7.8 Mbit/s here, like an hour ago
[16:42] <Tachyon`> well, they're just not needed
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[16:43] <pmjdebruijn> Dry_Lips: most use tape
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[16:43] <Tachyon`> and if they come off they might short anything
[16:43] <pmjdebruijn> Dry_Lips: if you don't overclock you're unlikely to need heatsink
[16:43] <Dry_Lips> ah, gotcha... I'll probably not overclock
[16:43] <pksato> Dry_Lips: RPI not need heatsinks. If need, its come with it.
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[16:44] <pmjdebruijn> Dry_Lips: you can find SoC temperature in /sys somewhere: 'find /sys | grep -i temp'
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[16:44] <Dry_Lips> right... mhm... cool. So, just about any case will generally do fine? I'm looking at those ultra cheap ones from ebay
[16:45] <pmjdebruijn> likely
[16:45] <pmjdebruijn> anything particularly you might be looking at?
[16:45] <linux_unix-10> Kunsi: Maybe it's dependent on how far one is from the download location? I'm in S.E. Asia right now.
[16:45] <IT_Sean> The only purpose raspi heatsinks serve is to seperate idiots from their money.
[16:45] <Kunsi> southwestern germany here
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[16:47] <Dry_Lips> pmjdebruijn, nah, I was first and foremost thinking if they fit all right...
[16:47] <linux_unix-10> Kunsi: You're closer to it, it must be lightning fast in the UK
[16:47] <pmjdebruijn> Dry_Lips: buying from a local reputable supplies, for a few bucks more should absolve you of that worry
[16:48] <Dry_Lips> Not many computer shops nearby, I'm afraid ;-)
[16:48] <Dry_Lips> But all right, I'll just get myself some random case, no worries
[16:48] <Dry_Lips> :)
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[16:53] <Tenkawa> brb
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[16:53] <TyrfingMjolnir> Stable OS?
[16:54] <TyrfingMjolnir> Unstable debian is usually more stable than a commercial OS from Seattle
[16:54] <linux_unix-10> I see what you did there
[16:55] <linux_unix-10> heh...MS-DOS
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[17:00] <Kunsi> ms-dos is way more stable than windows is
[17:00] <Kunsi> have a server running MS-DOS 6 here, running for about six years now, no issues.
[17:02] <day> makes me wonder. why is free dos a thing?
[17:02] <day> why would someone use free dos instead of linux?
[17:02] <ThomasWaldmann> to run a bios flasher made by a linux-ignorant bios/mb manufacturer
[17:03] <TyrfingMjolnir> Still have a G3/266 running debian 2.0
[17:03] <Froolap> maybe you have too much plugged into the usb ports and need to use a powered hub
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[17:03] <TyrfingMjolnir> 2.2 actualy
[17:04] <TyrfingMjolnir> uptime over 10 years now
[17:04] <day> how much power does a g3/266 draw?
[17:04] <TyrfingMjolnir> I have no clue
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[17:04] <TyrfingMjolnir> 80W?
[17:04] <Froolap> Nine_9: I've tried lots of adaptors and even my PC psu (using the molex) How did you do that? I want to.
[17:04] <day> :D
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[17:05] <day> would be my guess as well
[17:05] <day> its running 24/7 over 10years? o.O
[17:06] <TyrfingMjolnir> 13 years actually
[17:06] <TyrfingMjolnir> Just an internal system running php/MySQL
[17:06] <day> 2277EUR power cost @80W :D
[17:06] <TyrfingMjolnir> So? Probably made EUR 2 000 000
[17:06] <tawr> hi
[17:07] <day> i thought a private toy bank
[17:07] <day> we are testing psu in our company...its sad to see :/ 5A 24/7
[17:07] <TyrfingMjolnir> There is like 200 000 orders in there now
[17:08] <TyrfingMjolnir> Which country?
[17:08] <day> ger
[17:08] <TyrfingMjolnir> Oh
[17:08] <TyrfingMjolnir> Very expensive power there I believe
[17:08] <day> well companies pay way less than the 0.25Eur/kwh
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[17:08] <day> probably closer to 15
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[17:09] <TyrfingMjolnir> But now have SuperMicro
[17:09] <TyrfingMjolnir> 1200W?
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[17:11] <day> well my power consumption is tiny anyways. the only thing that needs juice are 3 displays and a highend haswell pc.
[17:12] <TyrfingMjolnir> 3 displayes?
[17:12] <day> ?
[17:12] <day> monitors
[17:12] <day> lcds
[17:13] <IT_Sean> What... you don't have three displays, TyrfingMjolnir ?
[17:13] <Froolap> the only thing that needs juice is 3 anti aricraft spot lights
[17:14] <day> but they all have their own outlet so its ok
[17:14] <day> :P
[17:14] <Froolap> giggle
[17:14] <TyrfingMjolnir> I have MB15R and http://www.dell.com/ed/business/p/dell-u2913wm/pd , looking into getting this one in addition: http://www.amazon.com/Dell-UltraSharp-30-Inch-PremierColor-Monitor/dp/B00C2RPW8O
[17:15] <tawr> lol Froolap
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[17:16] <TyrfingMjolnir> IT_Sean: I have 50, but usually 2 pr node
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[17:16] <JonBee> 'ello all
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[17:21] <McBride36> that's a lot of money for a monitor
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[17:28] <JonBee> anyone able to give any help with NetworkManager installation with the gnome GUI taht has wifi "Device Not Ready"
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[17:31] <JonBee> I can scan through command line and see wireless networks, but the network manager gui can't access the adapter
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[17:57] <kanzie> Where would you recommend I buy a starter-kit from in Germany?
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[18:03] <TheLostAdmin> kanzie: an online retailer that is listed on the raspberrypi.org website. Those are the ones that can order direct from the manufacturer (easily) and are likely to be selling at MSRP.
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[18:04] * nerdboy tries not to order from other continents unless required
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[18:06] <kanzie> nerdboy: same here, but Im in Germany, hence my question :-)
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[18:07] <shiftplusone> the distributors listed on the site operate globally and usually have stock all over the world ready to go
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[18:08] <TheLostAdmin> since the Raspberry Pi foundation (manufacturer) is in Great Brittain, most of the direct distributors are eurpean.
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[18:08] <shiftplusone> raspberry pi is NOT the manufacturer
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[18:12] <Encapsulation> $1000 saved today at radio shack =D grab bag day is next
[18:12] <Encapsulation> I could start my own radio shack with this many components
[18:12] <Encapsulation> entioore wall 90% off switches accelerometers transistors resistors
[18:13] <Encapsulation> 500 resistors for 2 dollars, etc
[18:13] <Encapsulation> =)
[18:13] <tawr> nice Encapsulation
[18:13] <tawr> all mine closed already :(
[18:13] <Encapsulation> =(
[18:13] <Encapsulation> maybe drive a couple towns over =)
[18:13] <tawr> i spent about $1500 tho
[18:13] <kanzie> TheLostAdmin: yeah thats what I thought too but then I found some Swedish retailers that were selling them cheaper than rasp…org, and the distributors they use doesnt seem to sell the pack. I guess I could just assemble the power supply, board and buy a SD card
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[18:14] <tawr> http://i.imgur.com/yX7ZfTy.jpg
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[18:14] <tawr> that's just ONE trip, when it was at 90%
[18:14] <tawr> 3 closed here
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[18:15] <Kunsi> kanzie: i only bought my pi online, got an sd card at media markt, and use an apple iphone charger to power my pi
[18:15] <Encapsulation> tawr, lol
[18:15] <TheLostAdmin> kanzie, Oh ya ... you did say "starter kit". My mistake. The Pi foundation does charge more for the SD card and power supply than some alternatives.
[18:15] <Encapsulation> yeah my receipt for these components is like a book
[18:15] <Encapsulation> true rms multimeter 20 bux, they are lining the shelves
[18:16] <Encapsulation> I don't think anyone around here makes anything
[18:16] <Encapsulation> or fixes anything
[18:16] <Encapsulation> I guess
[18:16] <tawr> Encapsulation, see the receipt/
[18:16] <Encapsulation> tawr lol yes
[18:16] <kanzie> Kunsi: really, it is powered by normal USB 5v or?
[18:16] <tawr> i grabbed every rpi, bbb, arduino, shield, switches, rf stuff
[18:16] <TheLostAdmin> I ordered the Pi board and case. Got a decent SD card on sale at a local retailer along with an appropriate cell phone/tablet charger as a power supply.
[18:16] <tawr> kanzie, of course?
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[18:16] <Encapsulation> tawr, thats amazing. mine has no pis or arudinos and very weak shield selection
[18:16] <Encapsulation> I can only imagine raiding a raspberry pi section
[18:17] <tawr> kanzie, all it is a voltage divider on the data pins to tell apple devices the current to charge at, it's normal usb
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[18:17] <Kunsi> kanzie: it delivers 5V 1A, should be enough for pi, ethernet and hdmi, don't use any usb devices
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[18:19] <Dry_Lips> I just dd'ed the raspbian image to a sd card... Resizing the partition in Gparted in order to claim the unallocated space works, or what?
[18:20] <Great-Geek> Dry_Lips: Yes, should work
[18:20] <Kunsi> Dry_Lips: use raspi-config to resize partitions
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[18:20] <Dry_Lips> Great-Geek, Kunsi, thank you! :)
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[18:22] <Dry_Lips> Kunsi, I was planning on using the pi completely headless... Is it nevertheless recommended to attach a monitor first time I boot the pi?
[18:23] <Dry_Lips> In order to run that raspi-config?
[18:24] <Dry_Lips> Oh, right... nevermind... ssh is probably not enabled by default
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[18:26] <shiftplusone> ssh is on by default and you can run raspi-config remotely
[18:26] <Dry_Lips> ah, perfect!
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[18:27] <Dry_Lips> thanks! :)
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[18:33] <Froolap> what do you guys think of this? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JU24Z3W/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A28RI4FXFS5SV8
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[18:35] <ShorTie> 5ft (1.5m) length - RoHS Compliant - Can be used as power supply for the Pi up to 2 Amp
[18:35] <ShorTie> foundation recommends 2.5amp
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[18:37] <niston> hehe tawr
[18:37] <niston> thats a long list
[18:38] <Froolap> Is there something else that offers an on-off switch? I'm not real happy with having to unplug and replug and wearing out the contacts
[18:38] <ThinkingofPython> My Pi2 is OC'ed to 1.1ghz, and runs on 1A just fine.
[18:39] <MY123> ThinkingofPython, that is a VERY small OC
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[18:40] <niston> stock default option isnt it
[18:40] <ThinkingofPython> Nah, did it custom through boot/config.bin
[18:40] <niston> I mean 1.1GHz for OC
[18:40] <niston> on Pi2
[18:40] <ThinkingofPython> arm clock 1100, core clock 500, initial turbo 30, temperature max 75 (downclock at that temp)
[18:40] <ThinkingofPython> Its 900mhz by default.
[18:41] <niston> yeah
[18:41] <ThinkingofPython> Since I'm using only 1A, I dont want to push it.
[18:41] <niston> anyways gotta run and pick up some boxes. bbiab
[18:41] <MY123> ThinkingofPython, you can push it easly to 1,6GHz
[18:41] <MY123> (1,5V VCore)
[18:41] <ThinkingofPython> without drawing more than 1A?
[18:42] <MY123> ThinkingofPython, I don't know. It works fine with my 5A power supply
[18:42] <methuzla> Froolap http://www.adafruit.com/products/2379
[18:42] <ThinkingofPython> Thats because yours is 5amps lol
[18:42] <MY123> (though the 2B has a fuse)
[18:42] <ThinkingofPython> Im using a 5V, 1A connector from my lapdock
[18:43] <MY123> ThinkingofPython, it has a fuse which doesn't permit using more than 2A
[18:43] <ThinkingofPython> 1A != 2A
[18:43] <ThinkingofPython> So probably not 1.6ghz
[18:43] <ThinkingofPython> 1300 was pushing it when I tried.
[18:43] <ThinkingofPython> Got an undervolt/underpowered warning
[18:43] <MY123> ThinkingofPython, ah
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[18:44] <MY123> so use a better power supply :)
[18:44] <ThinkingofPython> I'm getting a MiniPC as well (Intel Z3735f, 2GB ram, runs win 8.1) for the lapdock too
[18:44] <ThinkingofPython> Can't. Its being powered by the lapdock.
[18:44] <ThinkingofPython> No point running another cable, my work space doesnt have enough plugs
[18:45] <Froolap> methuzla: thanks
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[18:47] <HotCoder> is vnc faster than xrcd ?
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[18:48] <tawr> niston, in all I got about 95lb of stuff
[18:48] <tawr> from the 3 radioshacks
[18:48] <tawr> spent about $1,500
[18:49] <HotCoder> is vnc faster than xrcd ?
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[18:49] <tawr> but I got _ALL_ the switches
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[18:56] <HotCoder> is vnc faster than xrcd ?
[18:56] <ali1234> i don't know, is it?
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[18:57] <shiftplusone> xrcd==xrdp
[18:58] <shiftplusone> if so, it probably uses vnc as the backend
[18:58] <tawr> HotCoder,
[18:58] <tawr> how you enjoying the pi
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[18:59] <HotCoder> good
[18:59] <HotCoder> just had a question
[19:00] <HotCoder> but i answered my own
[19:00] <HotCoder> lol
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[19:00] <HotCoder> vnc is faster
[19:01] <HotCoder> tawr how to control/remove running vnc servers?
[19:01] <HotCoder> i want to shut down ones that are not in use
[19:02] <HotCoder> i need to see how many are running i thinki have an extra one running at :0
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[19:07] <HotCoder> xrdp*
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[19:08] <dyce> can rpi controll teensy?
[19:09] <dyce> i want to make a remote kvm over ip
[19:09] <dyce> so i will use an easycap usb
[19:09] <dyce> for 640x480 video capture
[19:09] <dyce> vga to composite, that feeds into the usb video capture device, and displayport to vga
[19:10] <dyce> then a teensy to act as a keyboard
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[19:10] <tawr> yes
[19:11] <tawr> of course
[19:11] <tawr> teensy is just a usb device
[19:11] <pmumble> HotCoder: vncserver --kill :1
[19:11] <tawr> rpi is a linux computer
[19:11] <pmumble> etc
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[19:11] <HotCoder> pmumble, thank you
[19:11] <pmumble> o/
[19:11] <HotCoder> what about the same for xrdp? pmumble
[19:11] <pmumble> i haven't ever used xrdp, not sure
[19:11] <tawr> if only
[19:12] <dyce> or should i just payup for a lantronix spider kvm
[19:12] <tawr> there were some sort of website or service that could scan, or maybe 'crawl' the internet and make a database
[19:12] <tawr> that was searchable
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[19:12] <tawr> you could input text, and it would search it's database
[19:12] <tawr> and return websites with answers to the question
[19:12] <tawr> we could call it. moogle.
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[19:15] <vidarw> Hi! I can't get analog audio to work on the RPi2. Trying to use this cable http://www.teknikmagasinet.no/produkter/lyd-o-bilde/kabler/rca/adapter-35-hann-til-3xrca
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[19:17] <methuzla> vidarw have you tried all three RCAs?
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[19:17] <pmumble> have you used raspi_config to set audio out to the 3.5mm jack?
[19:17] <pksato> vidarw: probable, this cable is incompatible.
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[19:18] <vidarw> methuzla: Yeah. Picture is located at the red plug (as Raspberrypi-spy.co.uk stated with camcorder plugs)
[19:18] <pksato> but, start mapping pins conections.
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[19:18] <pksato> probable. yellow RCA cable are swapped.
[19:19] <pksato> ops, not so.
[19:19] <pksato> all common are wrong.
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[19:20] <ShorTie> if you got an ohm meter, here is what it should be
[19:20] <ozzzy> cut the BLUE wire
[19:20] <ShorTie> http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2014/07/raspberry-pi-model-b-3-5mm-audiovideo-jack/
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[19:20] <methuzla> vidarw so red=video, the other two should be audio, so like pmumble said -> set out in raspi_config?
[19:20] <HotCoder> tawr interesting idea
[19:21] <HotCoder> tawr, do you think such a website would make it big though?
[19:21] <HotCoder> i dont really see that happening
[19:21] <pksato> vidarw: Have a hdmi connection to tv or monitor?
[19:21] <pmumble> oh wow nice, i didn't realize it was trrs
[19:22] <tawr> i dunno HotCoder
[19:22] <tawr> i'm thinking we could do some sort of social media
[19:22] <tawr> have them buy it
[19:22] <tawr> and also maybe a video hoster!
[19:22] <HotCoder> duude
[19:22] <HotCoder> we could call it Mewtube
[19:22] <tawr> instead of having to pay to host your .mpeg and .avi files you encoded over firewire
[19:22] <HotCoder> i'm liking it
[19:22] <tawr> yeah. dude, we're gonna be rich!
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[19:22] <HotCoder> duuuuuuuuddeeee
[19:22] <tawr> but, i have one demand
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[19:23] <ozzzy> get paid up front
[19:23] <tawr> our first server has to have a box made out of Leg..err.. Megos.
[19:23] <HotCoder> imagine a website where nerds could go and debate about stupid nerdy shit
[19:23] <HotCoder> we could call it Meddit
[19:23] <tawr> But then it would get taken over by SJW's and turned into a business venture
[19:23] <HotCoder> true true
[19:23] <vidarw> Blue wire cut, as stated on ShorTie's link its the "camcorder"-cable.
[19:24] <tawr> and you'd have people paying tons of money for artifically high ama's
[19:24] <vidarw> I've tried to set the output with raspi-config
[19:24] <tawr> lol
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[19:24] <tawr> that was fun.
[19:24] <HotCoder> maybe that website would then have another website affiliated that hosts images
[19:24] <HotCoder> we would call it jmgur
[19:24] <HotCoder> im liking these ideas man
[19:24] <HotCoder> we should get to work on this
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[19:25] <TheLostAdmin> HotCoder, you need to run the entire thing on clustered Raspberry Pis since you talked about it here.
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[19:25] <tawr> we could
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[19:25] <tawr> make some open source hardware, single board computers
[19:25] <HotCoder> TheLostAdmin, totally dudee
[19:25] <tawr> we could call them MeagleMone Mlacks
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[19:26] <HotCoder> tawr, we could make a website that has open source code uploaded that other people can clone and change
[19:26] <tawr> They'd run Minux
[19:26] <HotCoder> we could call it JitHub
[19:26] <tawr> Mithub! omg. perfect
[19:26] <HotCoder> we could have social media where people upload stuff about themselves that other people can see and get jealous at
[19:26] <HotCoder> call it macebook
[19:27] <tawr> no
[19:27] <tawr> to rapey
[19:27] <HotCoder> man today is such a productive day
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[19:27] <HotCoder> so many good original ideas
[19:27] <TheLostAdmin> Call it CatBook.
[19:27] <tawr> i spend too much time on Meddit
[19:27] <tawr> I have like 22k Marma
[19:27] <HotCoder> really?
[19:28] <tawr> yeah
[19:28] <HotCoder> comment or link?
[19:28] <tawr> comment
[19:28] <HotCoder> pshhh
[19:28] <HotCoder> i have 30k
[19:28] <tawr> calm down unidan
[19:28] <HotCoder> dude
[19:28] <HotCoder> unidan got banned tho
[19:28] <HotCoder> did u know?
[19:28] <tawr> not all his alts tho
[19:28] <HotCoder> well duh
[19:28] <HotCoder> thats impossible
[19:28] <tawr> boy was rollin' with dem botnets
[19:28] <HotCoder> anyone can evade
[19:28] <HotCoder> ye
[19:29] <tawr> since i started modding a big submeddit, my liking of meddit has dropped considerably
[19:29] <HotCoder> meh
[19:29] <HotCoder> its just meddit
[19:29] <HotCoder> who gaf
[19:29] <HotCoder> in the real world it dont matter
[19:29] <tawr> not true
[19:30] <tawr> Marma is totally real life currency
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[19:32] <day> i wonder, what stops me from using the gpio pins configured on input as outputs via the pullup/pulldown?
[19:33] <day> i obviously cant drive anything with them, but for a digital signal? should be fine?
[19:33] <tawr> yes
[19:34] <methuzla> day why would you want to do that?
[19:34] <day> im still trying to write a driver for a single wire sensor which needs a poke to start
[19:35] <day> less code, maybe quicker execution were my thoughts
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[19:37] <methuzla> day what's the sensor?
[19:37] <day> am2301/dht22 etc.
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[19:42] <ali1234> why don;t you just change the direction?
[19:43] <day> already wrote why
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[19:47] <methuzla> day are you using the 1-wire driver?
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[19:47] <day> methuzla: its not the 1-wire protocol apparently
[19:48] <day> my plan was to use interrupts measure pulse width
[19:48] <day> not sure which timer to use tho. but one step at a time :P
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[19:49] <HotCoder> yo
[19:49] <HotCoder> how do i see how many vnc servers are currently running
[19:49] <HotCoder> ?
[19:49] <methuzla> day ok. i haven't done anything with those. so i guess i'm no help. sorry.
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[19:50] <day> methuzla: oh im fine. i was just wondering about the pullup/pulldown thing
[19:52] <pmumble> HotCoder: pgrep -fl tightvnc
[19:53] <HotCoder> how does that work?
[19:53] <HotCoder> just showed me a bunch of text
[19:53] <HotCoder> how do i set it to a certain resolution of my vnc window on my screen?
[19:53] <pmumble> you asked how do you see how many vnc servers are running. that command shows you each tightvnc process that is running, including its details
[19:54] <pmumble> vncserver --help
[19:54] <pmumble> you will find the answer within
[19:54] <HotCoder> ah ok thanks
[19:54] * nirokato applauds pmumble's proper use of 'its'.
[19:54] <methuzla> day FWIW https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_Python_DHT
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[19:58] <HotCoder> ok thank you so much pmumble i think i got the hang of it
[19:58] <pmumble> cool :)
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[20:09] <dyce> can i do a setup like this PC --USB--> teensy --GPIO--> rpi and send keyboard keystrokes?
[20:09] <dyce> via the rpi to the pc
[20:10] <methuzla> so the arrows go the other way?
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[20:10] <pksato> dyce: if teensy have a USB guest port, Yes.
[20:11] <dyce> methuzla: yeah
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[20:12] <dyce> PC <--USB-- teensy <--GPIO-- rpi
[20:12] <vidarw> okay... tested with a regular 2xRCA to 3.5mm, still no audio
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[20:12] <dyce> so technically i could have a python script waiting for entry
[20:13] <dyce> and as i type into it, it forwards it to the pc
[20:13] <methuzla> probably, i've seen hacks with the teensy where it's basically emulating a keyboard
[20:13] <pmumble> last vidarw
[20:13] <pmumble> oops
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[20:14] <methuzla> so just do something like that, but have the keystrokes driven by gpio
[20:14] <pmumble> vidarw: what software are you using for audio out?
[20:15] <vidarw> testing with omxplayer and mocp
[20:15] <vidarw> (and youtube on iceweasel in x)
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[20:17] <methuzla> dyce what teensy? looks like it would be pretty trivial with a teensyduino: https://www.pjrc.com/teensy/td_keyboard.html
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[20:18] <dyce> http://www.ebay.com/itm/321569700934
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[20:19] <dyce> methuzla: so i would have to program teensy to read from its gpio, and write to usb
[20:20] <dyce> wait for input from gpio
[20:20] <methuzla> yeah. that's the basic idea.
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[20:21] <pksato> vidarw: dont have any sound, even a noise?
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[20:22] <vidarw> pksato: damn receivers fault. for some reason it muted all analog audio
[20:22] <dyce> methuzla: do you know of anything for video capture?
[20:22] <vidarw> worked fine after a restart
[20:22] <niston> touch the tip of the 3.5mm plug
[20:22] <niston> if theres no sound... ah xD
[20:23] <pmumble> nice
[20:23] <methuzla> dyce no
[20:23] <pksato> vidarw: wrong cable can damange RPi.
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[20:30] <McBride36> like the power lines on the poles, those aren't good for pies
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[20:32] <Tenkawa> McBride36: heh
[20:34] <McBride36> Tenkawa, hows the weather?
[20:34] <Tenkawa> McBride36: a lot better
[20:34] <Tenkawa> sunny and 70
[20:34] <Tenkawa> finally!
[20:35] <Tenkawa> it was cold yesterday
[20:35] <Tenkawa> we're going to get some rain in a few days for a little while however it appears spring may finally be here to stay
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[20:39] <McBride36> it's flippin' gorgeous out today
[20:39] <Tenkawa> cool
[20:39] <McBride36> took an extended lunch
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[20:41] <Tenkawa> heheheh
[20:42] * Tenkawa prepares his new crosscompile en ironment
[20:43] <Tenkawa> er environment
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[20:51] <yoosi> i installed irssi from the repos with sudo apt-get install irssi. it appears to be way out of date (from 2010). how can i upgrade to the latest version?
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[20:52] <Tenkawa> brb... i hope
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[20:59] <Tenkawa> that went amazingly well
[21:00] <TheLostAdmin> Why do people as a question and then quite the channel a few minutes later?
[21:01] <pmumble> a lack of patience... not understanding the idle nature of irc...
[21:02] <TheLostAdmin> 'twas more of a retorical question but thanks for the prompt answer. :-)
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[21:18] <Froolap> yoosi: stop running obsolete distros.
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[21:28] <day> is it even feasable to measure 30us pulse width with the raspberry?
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[21:30] <ali1234> not really no
[21:30] <plugwash> what kind of resoloution do you need to measure it too?
[21:30] <day> i get two interrupts i simply need to measure delta t
[21:31] <day> on an uC i would simpy start a hardware timer and read the counter via interrupt
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[21:31] <plugwash> similar things are likely possible on the Pi but it's not something that could be done from userland
[21:31] <dreamon> hello. having a strange issue. wifi is connected with wicd. I can ping on router and external network adresses.. but I cannont ping to local adresses.
[21:31] <plugwash> to get that kind of intterupt response time would take you into kernel mode driver territory
[21:32] <plugwash> and you could still be disrupted by higher priority interrupts
[21:32] <day> plugwash: i dont think im in userland anymore. At least wiringpi interacts with kernel modules
[21:32] <day> interupts etc.
[21:32] <ali1234> kernel is no good, you would need bare metal to get reasonable accuracy
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[21:32] <plugwash> sure it *interacts with* kernel modules but there can be substantial latency in passing interrupts up from kernel space to user space
[21:33] <methuzla> but the kernel is preemptable as well
[21:33] <plugwash> and even in the kernel it wouldn't be easy to do it reliablly
[21:33] <day> but there are drivers out there that do this. its a simple 40bit data burst. i cant believe something so simple can be so hard on an OS
[21:34] <ali1234> maybe it's not hard at all. maybe you're just doing it wrong
[21:34] <plugwash> The abstraction an OS brings comes at a price, that price is it's much harder to do stuff that requires fine timing
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[21:34] <methuzla> the tight timing may be done on peripheral hardware
[21:35] <plugwash> however it's worth looking to see if you can (ab)use one of the hardware perhiperals to do what you want
[21:35] <plugwash> for example the I2S perhiperal
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[21:35] <day> plugwash: yeah that was my first thought. If one of the interfaces is able to make head and tails out of the signal i could simply read 8bits at a time out of the buffer
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[21:35] <plugwash> which can sample an input at a high rate and record the samples so they can be processed later
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[21:38] <dreamon> hello. having a strange issue. wifi is connected with wicd. I can ping on router and external network adresses.. but I cannont ping to local adresses.
[21:39] <methuzla> this scenario is why you see things like those PRUs on the BBB processor
[21:39] <day> plugwash: this one works like a charm T_T https://github.com/paszczak000/DHT21-AM2301/blob/master/am2301.c
[21:39] <ali1234> methuzla: PRU is just a fancy name for a microcontroller?
[21:40] <methuzla> pretty much, Programmable Realtime Unit or something
[21:40] <plugwash> day, even if the interface can't "understand" the data it may be able to record it for your userland code to process at it's leisure
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[21:41] <pksato> dreamon: some access point have a option to isolate clients. check if is not enabled.
[21:41] <plugwash> ali1234, the prus are extra cores on the chip used on the bbb, they are very simple (no cache, hardly any memory small instruction set) but are clocked significantly higher than most microcontrollers
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[21:42] <dreamon> pksato, no I'm sure this is a problem with raspberry wicd. cause all other notebooks with ubuntu on it works fine.
[21:42] <plugwash> so they can be used to bit bang interfaces at high speed
[21:42] <ali1234> plugwash: google indicates that "PRUs" are add on boards
[21:42] <methuzla> while the ARM core runs the OS
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[21:42] <ali1234> or maybe its just a breakout?
[21:42] <day> plugwash: the code actually does simply measure the delta http://dpaste.com/3N5C4D2
[21:43] <day> i dont think this is going to be reliable if the whole cpu is stressed though
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[21:43] <ali1234> day it isn't, just buy an AVR chip for $1 and use it to translate the derpy 1-wire protocol of the sensor in to i2c
[21:44] <day> ali1234: i actually have tons of them right infront of me....but :(
[21:44] <plugwash> day, that's the thing, if nothing else is going on you can do pretty fine timing from userland because nothing is getting in the way
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[21:44] <plugwash> but you can't do it realiablly because something could take the cpu away at any time
[21:45] <plugwash> (and obviously the higher the CPU load the greater the probability of that happening)
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[21:48] <ali1234> someone should make a board with a cheap AVR and a socket for that DHT sensor
[21:48] <day> plugwash: well...he found a way to make it quite reliable :D http://dpaste.com/3C1D1SQ
[21:48] <methuzla> ali1234 the PRUs are in the SOC made by TI
[21:48] <ali1234> because someone comes here every day asking how to use it
[21:50] <plugwash> ali1234, the "PRU cape" is a board containing various devices connected to the PRU IO pins so you can play about with the PRU in the SoC on the beaglebone series
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[21:50] <ali1234> i see. that's a pretty good idea
[21:51] <plugwash> day, yeah if you are the master you can just keep trying until you succeed
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[21:53] <Froolap> dreamon: you don't have your hosts set up
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[22:11] <Azrael_-> hi
[22:11] <brasizza> What's up guys
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[22:22] <rochadt> what up
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[22:28] <brasizza> what's the topic arround?
[22:33] <dreamon> Froolap, what do you mean .. i dont understand
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[22:48] <niston> brasizza: lewd ladies and booze
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[22:54] <brasizza> let's do it
[22:54] <brasizza> see ya guys.
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[22:54] <brasizza> i'm getting my bong
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[23:00] <Wegge> What if (if it exists) the python way of talking SPI to an external unit?
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[23:00] <Wegge> s/What if/What is/
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[23:09] <niston> http://forum.arduino.cc/index.php?topic=185562.0
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[23:13] <Berg> hello worldf
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[23:14] * Xark hands Berg a '\n'. :)
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[23:15] <Wegge> niston, Yet another
[23:15] <Berg> do i need a '\n'?
[23:16] <Wegge> spidev, now WiringPi, and how many other ways out there?
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[23:16] <Wegge> Yet nothing that can be installed with apt :/
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[23:16] <Berg> what ya doing Wegge
[23:17] <Berg> i handle my pie with a web site
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[23:19] <Berg> hmm
[23:19] <Berg> i nteresting
[23:19] <Berg> lots of control libs
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[23:20] <Wegge> I'm going to be talking to a 2.4 GHz RF module.
[23:20] <Wegge> When it arrives.
[23:20] <Berg> hmm
[23:20] <Wegge> I'm just trying to figure out what the options are
[23:21] <Berg> i talk to my pi over my lan network it has web pages i control or recieve everything from
[23:21] <ShorTie> high sqeeky voice ??
[23:21] <Wegge> Of course, I can just wire MISO to MOSI, and start experimenting.
[23:21] <Berg> espeaking pi?
[23:21] <Wegge> Berg, I need to talk to a gizmo outside reliable WiFi range
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[23:22] <Berg> ooo
[23:22] <Berg> then you need the internet
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[23:22] <Wegge> I didn't win last weeks Euro jackpot, so my greenhouse cannot afford its own internet connection
[23:23] <Berg> i can talk to my pi from anywhere as it has a web server
[23:23] <Berg> me either
[23:23] <Berg> hence the wifi to my router
[23:23] <Berg> one minute ill try and set it to external net
[23:24] <Wegge> The main problem is that the roof is mada of steel plates, covered in photovoltaic panels.
[23:24] <Kryczek> what speed do you need?
[23:24] <Wegge> So WiFi is pretty much limited to the inside of the house.
[23:24] <Kryczek> lower frequencies like 433MHz, 868MHz etc carry further
[23:24] <Kryczek> 125kHz even further
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[23:25] <Kryczek> if you're transferring text it's fine
[23:25] <Kryczek> don't expect full HD video streams though
[23:25] <Berg> http://114.73.41.148:8080/timer
[23:25] <Wegge> Thus, I need to either pull a cable, which isn't going to be easy, nor cheap. Or use a 8$ module to link the remote Arduino to the Pi.
[23:25] <muldoon> wifi is just a wave, like any RF.. they all have same properties. lower frequency waves travel further. think of the car that drives by your house, you hear the bass/not the treble, because lower frequencies travel further
[23:25] <niston> just put an outdoor AP?
[23:25] <Berg> thats my pi on wifi
[23:26] <Wegge> niston, then back to the problem of pulling a cable.
[23:26] <muldoon> but lower frequencies have less bandwidth, because the distance from peak to trough is further. thus the payload takes longer so you take longer to transmit one "packet" of data
[23:26] <niston> then go with 433MHz
[23:26] <niston> like Kryczek said
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[23:27] <niston> http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/433Mhz-Wireless-Serial-Transceiver-Module-1-Kilometer-p-1733.html
[23:28] <Wegge> I went for these modules, as they have an external antenna, which mean I can put the indoor end at the roof window, where the signal should be OK.
[23:28] <Wegge> This module has a range of 1100 meters in open space, with a 115 kbps data rate
[23:29] <Kryczek> what will you be transferring?
[23:29] <muldoon> anyone have experience wiring a stepper motor to a driver board? I do not understand the wiring schematic and would like another set of eyes on this. the motor is STM100, it has 4 wires, pair 1 being red/green the second channel being blue/yellow. the driver is a LN298, it has outputs of 1a, 1b, 2a, 2b. so red/green to 1a/1b? does polarity matter?
[23:29] <Wegge> Remote sensing mostly, and probably the odd command the other way
[23:30] <ShorTie> http://www.anarduino.com/miniwireless/ these seem nifty
[23:30] <muldoon> I can link to the scematics if that helps answer the question. i am new to this aspect of pi
[23:30] <Wegge> I'm starting with a datalogger for my greenhouse with indoor/outdoor temperature and humidity and soil humidity.
[23:30] <ShorTie> got some of the rfm69hw @ 433mhz to play with
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[23:49] <MACscr> anyone recommend a 5ghz wifi solution for the pi?
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[23:51] <niston> coffee from columbia and a cigar from cuba!
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[23:57] <methuzla> muldoon is it this? https://github.com/makerfire/rpi-demo/wiki/RPI-L298N-Motor-Driver-Module

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