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IRC Log for 2015-05-25

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[0:10] <Captain_Crow> does raspbian have a gui for the repo or do i need to know terminal commands?
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[0:15] <kanzie> I have just installed my raspberry, put kodi and deluge on it and mounted a external drie. Yet suddenly I cant use it because there is no free disk
[0:15] <kanzie> I got the Noob 1.4 8gb SD-card
[0:16] <kanzie> a df -h shows me that /dev/root is 100% use
[0:16] <pmumble> have you expanded the drive in raspi_config?
[0:16] <kanzie> at 3.2G
[0:16] <kanzie> pmumble: I tried but it said it was already expanded
[0:16] <kanzie> pmumble: I can try again because this sucks, cant do anything on it now
[0:16] <pmumble> hm, that's odd. did you run as sudo? double check. there is a way to do it manually, but it's much easier in raspi_config
[0:17] <kanzie> yeah, it says “your partiton layout is currenyl not support by this tool. You are probably using NOOBS in which case your root filesystem is already expanded anyway”
[0:17] <kanzie> running as root
[0:17] <kanzie> pmumble: this is df output
[0:17] <kanzie> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9b3dbaefc93b185886f5
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[0:19] <kanzie> the SD card has OpenELEC on it too, which problably takes some space
[0:20] <kanzie> maybe I should just run OpeneLEC instead and throw in deluge on that
[0:20] <pmumble> i realized i haven't tried to expand my fs on noobs. only raspian image. so yeah, not sure.
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[0:23] <kanzie> pmumble: is there a downside to running OpenElec instead of the noobs?
[0:23] <kanzie> I guess Raspian is what its called
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[0:24] <claudiop> Hi. Whenever I set an hardware pin as output it sends +5v out of that pin? Is it safe to measure it directly with a multimeter against a ground pin?
[0:25] <claudiop> Im not really an electricity guy, just want to make sure I'll not burn the Pi :p
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[0:26] <plugwash> It won't send 5V, it will send either 3.3V or 0V depending on what the output value is set to
[0:26] <pmumble> kanzie: i've only briefly experimented with NOOBs, my pis are running raspian from the raspbian image
[0:26] <pmumble> so not sure
[0:26] <plugwash> and yes it's safe to measure it with a multimeter set up for measuring voltage
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[0:27] <claudiop> plugwash, In case you know, does the same apply for Arduino? I mean, the 3.3V
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[0:27] <claudiop> And Im talking about the python function GPIO.output(pin, True). That gets 3.3v out?
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[0:28] <ozzzy> the function just makes the pin high... which on a Pi is 3.3v
[0:29] <plugwash> You have to be careful when linking different boards together. Some stuff is 5V, some stuff is 3.3V, I think ardino may have both in their range but i'm not positive (you certainly see both in the wider world of arduino based stuff)
[0:29] <plugwash> some 3.3V devices are tolerant of 5V signals but the pi is not one of them.
[0:30] <Ownix> Hey guys im having issues with OSMC. How do I get it to "add my media" and scan it and then organize it and apply pictures and all that?
[0:31] <Ownix> Right ow I have to click files and go probing around for my movie file
[0:31] <claudiop> I'm asking because i bought a stepper motor with a controller board advertised as "for arduino" (just like everything on ebay). There are a few guides on how to use it on raspberry, but for some reason the code its not working. I mean, two pins work just fine, but two other not that much, and i wanted to know a way to test whats going wrong
[0:32] <claudiop> Getting eletricity directly into the motor works just fine. I'll just check the RPI pins against a multimeter to check if the problem is hw or sw
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[0:33] <claudiop> Can i connect the ground against the ground of a 5v transformer or do i have to connect it to the rasp gpio ground? I have no idea if there's any difference between a 3.3v ground or a 5v one :p
[0:34] <plugwash> you need to connect all the grounds in your system together
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[0:35] <ozzzy> yep... grounds are common
[0:35] <claudiop> No, i mean, to measure it. The motor needs 5v. I have a bredboard with 5v on it coming from a transformer connected to the motor power pins, and then a rasp connected to the motor board logic pins
[0:35] <claudiop> ozzzy, thanks
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[0:49] <doomlord> obscure question...
[0:49] <doomlord> does anyone know if the rPI's video chip has a 1920x1080p textmode , eg 240x135 x 8x8 characters
[0:50] <doomlord> i heard it has some kind of unusual hardware windowing
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[0:51] <plugwash> I don't think the rpi has any hardware textmode at all
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[0:54] <doomlord> i guess the hardware windowing could be used for scrolling views with minimal memory traffic
[0:55] <claudiop> I have one pin outputing. If i read its voltage against the GPIO gnd it reads 3.25v, againt a 5v tranformer ground reads 2.75v. Its a really cheap multimeter. Probably whats the problem?
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[0:57] <methuzla> "againt a 5v tranformer ground reads 2.75v" <- that reading is between what two points?
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[0:58] <claudiop> The transformer ground/negative and the gpio outputing pin
[0:59] <claudiop> BTW, the gpio pin numbers changed since the first RPi version?
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[1:00] <methuzla> sounds like the grounds are isolated from each other
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[1:01] <methuzla> in general gpio pin numbers haven't changed, first 26 on newer pis are same as older
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[1:03] <claudiop> methuzla, Ehh, that means? Im doing a project with a friend (which is sleeping right now). He just understands about hw, i just understand about sw, and I dont understand lots of eletronic things and am really worried about not ruining the RPi
[1:03] <claudiop> Weird, the demo source code i downloaded has its pins listed wrongs
[1:03] <claudiop> *wrong. Thats my problem with the motor
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[1:04] <methuzla> claudiop what's the hardware? link to info?
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[1:06] <shiftplusone> keep in mind that the pins might NOT be wrong.
[1:06] <claudiop> methuzla, A 28BJY-48 stepper motor and its board. I was using this code: www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2012/07/stepper-motor-control-in-python/
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[1:06] <claudiop> I assembled the cables with another tutorial, maybe that one was the problem
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[1:07] <shiftplusone> I've had people complain to me that pin numbers I've given in documentation are wrong. It turns out people make wrong assumptions about pin numbers.
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[1:08] <claudiop> I'll just get one of these: https://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-leaf/ Its confusing to have so many pins without any description
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[1:10] <shiftplusone> that's for the old pi
[1:11] <shiftplusone> the newer pis have more pins so that thing won't fit
[1:12] <claudiop> shiftplusone, I have one of the old ones. The first ones that came with 512Mb from the uk
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[1:12] <shiftplusone> ah, great.
[1:12] * Xark notes it kinda works (from the creators blog) http://www.doctormonk.com/search/label/raspberry%20pi
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[1:13] <methuzla> claudiop is that the same controller board you're using in that link?
[1:15] <claudiop> methuzla, Yea, these motors are bundled with these controller boards in ebay, there are literally thousands of entries for the same pack, so I'll assume it is the same
[1:16] <methuzla> so looks like plugging the stepper to the board is straight forward, correct?
[1:17] <Captain_Crow> was raspbian patched after the heartbleed bug?
[1:18] <shiftplusone> yes
[1:18] <claudiop> Yes, pretty much. But somehow the pins are exchanged. I'll just finish doing my homemade raspberry GPIO numbers paper thing, and then check get the motor working. It seems quite simple, but the pins seem to be wrong
[1:20] <methuzla> claudiop possible, i'm trying to work through it one piece at a time, first is: is the motor plugged in correctly?
[1:20] <methuzla> claudiop looks like it comes with a connector, hopefully with an alignment key, so really only one way to plug it in
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[1:21] <Encapsulation> anyoen here used pir sensors witht he pi
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[1:22] <claudiop> methuzla, The motor power is plugged properly, and if i manually connect power to the logic pins, the correct led turns on, but Im not fast enough doing it for it to turn. With the demo source the same doesn't happens. Only two leds turn on ever, even if blinking
[1:23] <claudiop> And i checked, and what was supposed to be the second pin, was the 4th
[1:23] <methuzla> "manually connect power to the logic pins" <- not a good idea, depending on what "power" is
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[1:27] <SnowRaptor> Does anyone here have experience running gentoo on the rpi? I'm worried about compiling IO and wondering whether mounting /var/tmp/portage/ via nfs instead of having it in the SDcard
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[1:30] <shiftplusone> SnowRaptor, don't worry. You'll realise you should use Arch instead before any damage is done to the card.
[1:31] <shiftplusone> (although I use an externally powered usb hdd for compiling stuff on the pi)
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[1:34] <Zunz> Anyone experience with avconv?
[1:35] <methuzla> claudiop their code doesn't match their webpage in terms of pins used
[1:35] <methuzla> claudiop webpage = 18, 22, 24, 26
[1:35] <methuzla> claudiop code = 17, 22, 23, 24
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[1:36] <claudiop> methuzla, That explains. Thanks for figuring that out ;)
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[1:45] <SnowRaptor> shiftplusone, I'm not here after distro wars, I've been using gentoo for some 10 years now
[1:46] <SnowRaptor> If I were to use another distro, I'd just go with raspbian and not worry.
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[1:47] <plum> hi there
[1:47] <methuzla> Zunz so little I'm probably no better than google, but just ask your question
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[1:56] * [Saint] wonders why someone would hate themselves enough to use Gentoo on a raspi
[1:56] <claudiop> Is there any difference in using any GPIO pin (except the power ones) for what I was attempting (controlling a stepping motor)? For example can I use pins 2, 3, 4 and 14 instead of the ones in the tutorial?
[1:57] <claudiop> I know some of them have some capabilities like serial and things, but they can also be used as simple output, right?
[1:57] <[Saint]> correct
[1:57] <claudiop> Thanks
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[1:57] <methuzla> claudiop depends on what you mean by "pin 2", the naming scheme is confusing
[1:58] <shiftplusone> SnowRaptor, no distro war intended. I'm a fan of gentoo. Just not into s&m.
[1:58] <SnowRaptor> s&m ?
[1:58] <shiftplusone> nothing
[1:58] <shiftplusone> that's why I followed it up with the HDD suggestion
[1:58] <claudiop> methuzla, The pin number that appears in the pinout
[1:59] <claudiop> In this case pin2 is also some SDA thing
[1:59] <[Saint]> SnowRaptor: what is being said, albeit in a roundabout fashion, is that there's no observable benefit to using Gentoo on the raspi to an outsider...basically.
[2:00] <shiftplusone> (but whatever floats your boat)
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[2:00] <[Saint]> And that Arch is basically Gentoo sans headaches and messing about.
[2:00] <SnowRaptor> [Saint], there's the benefit of being the distro I'm most used to.
[2:01] <[Saint]> You'll find Arch more than vaguely familiar.
[2:01] <[Saint]> Debian-esque distros, notsomuch.
[2:02] <methuzla> claudiop what pin out are you looking at?
[2:02] <[Saint]> TBH, I don't personally think Gentoo makes any sense at all on mass production systems. But, that's me.
[2:03] <shiftplusone> [Saint], really? what's so different about debian?
[2:03] <methuzla> claudiop pin 2 (physical on pi gpio) is 5V
[2:03] <[Saint]> shiftplusone: mainly package management
[2:04] <[Saint]> which can be a large hurdle for some.
[2:04] <shiftplusone> O_o
[2:04] <shiftplusone> You'd think that someone comfortable with portage wouldn't struggle with apt at all
[2:05] <claudiop> methuzla, I understand what you mean. I mean BCM pin2. The one below 3.3v, or physical pin3
[2:05] <claudiop> Here which ones do you usualy talk about, physical or BCM pins?
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[2:05] <shiftplusone> update, install, upgrade.... they're all fairly intuitive.
[2:05] <[Saint]> one would think, but history has shown me that's not necessarily the case.
[2:05] <methuzla> claudiop either, that's why it's confusing
[2:06] <claudiop> methuzla, And why does wiring pi implements its own order? You guys enjoy confusion? :p
[2:07] <claudiop> To begin with why is the bcm pin order random-ish?
[2:07] <claudiop> There were problems getting things ordered in hw design? Or is it better this way?
[2:07] <shiftplusone> claudiop, wiringpi numbering scheme was something that was used to refer to the pins before the pi actually came out, so the author of it went with that. You should only worry about BCM and physical pin numbers.
[2:08] <shiftplusone> (wiringpi supports using BCM pin numbers if you tell it to)
[2:10] <claudiop> shiftplusone, Then where did the BCM order came from? I know its not easy to design hardware, was it because of problem getting wires in order?
[2:10] <claudiop> I mean, having grounds and power all over the place seems useful, but having the pin order somewhat random seems confusing
[2:11] <shiftplusone> the BCM numbers are the actual numbers used by the SoC and documentation.
[2:11] <methuzla> claudiop also, the RPi.GPIO python module is not the same as wiringPi
[2:11] <claudiop> methuzla, I know that part. It wouldn't make sense.
[2:12] <claudiop> shiftplusone, yea, but why not getting them like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... instead of 17, 27, 22, 10, 9, 11 ?
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[2:12] <methuzla> claudiop the code you're looking at does not use wiringPi
[2:12] <shiftplusone> claudiop, there are pins which are used for other stuff on the board. it doesn't all go out onto the GPIO header
[2:13] <shiftplusone> the GPIO header is the left over stuff
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[2:13] <shiftplusone> if you're asking why they're not routed out GPIO0 to PIN1 and so on... That's not a thing that generally happens and would be somewhat silly. But yes, one huge reasons not to do that is that it would be a pain to route out. The board is difficult enough to route as it is.
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[2:14] <[Saint]> yeah, routing just to have nicely ordered pins would suck. but make for an interesting board.
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[2:15] <claudiop> shiftplusone, Ok, I guess that explains it, even if it becomes more confusing for users.
[2:16] <[Saint]> if you're using wiringpi as a base, I think you can tell it to use the internal numbering scheme - but that might not make things any less confusing.
[2:16] <methuzla> roll your own and add your layer of software abstraction
[2:16] <[Saint]> ah, I should have read up more. shiftplusone already mentioned this.
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[2:17] <shiftplusone> methuzla, great thinking https://xkcd.com/927/
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[2:19] <MrAnderson> Hello
[2:19] <shiftplusone> Hello, Sir
[2:20] <methuzla> i'd call i2c "chatty chat" and SPI "speaky speak" and GPIO "outty inny"
[2:20] <[Saint]> Take him away, Officer Hedgehog. Put him somewhere obvious.
[2:21] <MrAnderson> Anybody have experience setting up access wireless access points on the pi?
[2:21] <shiftplusone> why chatty chat and speaky speak and not the other way around? Is there something that makes SPI more speaky than chatty? =S
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[2:21] <shiftplusone> MrAnderson, hostapd
[2:21] <MrAnderson> using that
[2:21] <shiftplusone> and hope the chipset you're using doesn't suck
[2:21] <[Saint]> ^ that
[2:21] <MrAnderson> Edimax
[2:21] <MrAnderson> i got the AP working fine
[2:21] <claudiop> Is a cheapo stepping motor supposed to turn at clock speed? I don't know if the problem is with the code, but it seems that the pi and the code are working fine.
[2:22] <shiftplusone> ah, great. I've seen that you need a different version of hostapd for a few different chipsets, which isn't fun.
[2:22] <[Saint]> Then what be thine issue, noble MrAnderson?
[2:22] <MrAnderson> yea...i have a different binary
[2:22] <shiftplusone> Then our job is done here.
[2:23] <MrAnderson> I'm trying to mirror Chromecast functionality, allowing the Pi to host an AP with an apache frontend that allows you to enter in SSID and password and then connect to wifi that way.
[2:23] <MrAnderson> I think AstroBox does this, not sure if anyone is familiar
[2:23] <methuzla> claudiop speed depends on how fast the pulse sequence is done (up to limit of stepper motor)
[2:23] <shiftplusone> Ah, so this doesn't sound like an AP question at all.
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[2:24] <MrAnderson> well it sort of has to do with it, because at the moment i've moved backwards, unable to get dnsmasq to properly hand out ip addresses
[2:25] <MrAnderson> but i think my understanding of ip addresses and such might be at its limits
[2:25] <claudiop> methuzla, Im giving a pulse at every 50 miliseconds. I don't know how much does it rotate with each pulse tough..
[2:25] <MrAnderson> i was trying to do this without having to give the pi a static ip
[2:25] <[Saint]> Heh. TO be honest, I'd just buy a Chromecast. They're foolishly cheap, and rather awesome.
[2:25] <MrAnderson> i have one
[2:26] <shiftplusone> MrAnderson, sounds like you've got all the right pieces and it's just a matter of configuring it right.
[2:26] <methuzla> claudiop 5.625 deg per step (per datasheet)
[2:26] <MrAnderson> i'm trying to integrate the same functionality into a pi project
[2:26] <methuzla> claudiop with a gear reduction ratio of 1:64
[2:26] <shiftplusone> That reminds me... I should probably buy a chomecast. They do netflix, right?
[2:26] <MrAnderson> they do, decently well if your network is up to the challenge
[2:26] <MrAnderson> anyway, i think i'm on the cusp
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[2:27] <shiftplusone> Alright... will get one with the next paycheck. I blew the remains of my money on two C64's >_<
[2:27] <methuzla> claudiop it's probably going to go pretty slow with the 1:64 reduction gear
[2:27] <claudiop> methuzla, It means 5.625 deg after reduction or before reduction? Something is wrong with my code, a youtube video of a guy using the same motor on an arduino seems way faster
[2:27] <[Saint]> it still pays to jump through the hoops to get US Netflix over $locale Netflix.
[2:27] <[Saint]> As the latter plain sucks.
[2:28] <shiftplusone> UK netflix isn't too bad.
[2:28] <[Saint]> For varying definitions of bad, but, yeah.
[2:28] <[Saint]> US Netflix is largely superior.
[2:28] <shiftplusone> For everything else, there's "Sorry, this page is not available through Virgin Media"
[2:28] <[Saint]> AU Netflix just sucks.
[2:28] <shiftplusone> Still better than cable.
[2:29] <MrAnderson> What i want to do is use the wifi adapter to scan for ESSIDS, put them in a list, put that on a web page and then host it on the pi. Connecting to the pi's AP will send someone to the apache site and let them choose an SSID from the list and put in a password. That info will then get funneled through some scripts into wpa_supplicant.conf which should trigger a wifi connection.
[2:29] <shiftplusone> probably... haven't had cable in a very long time.
[2:29] <Goldy> shiftpusone, whats the plan with the c64s?
[2:29] <claudiop> My code is this one. Seems simple and has little waiting for each pulse: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/227be649b8a52ae33289
[2:29] <claudiop> Is it problematic or the problem is somewhere else?
[2:29] <[Saint]> Fortunately my telco offers a 'global mode' for 'overseas visitors to access their services'.
[2:29] <[Saint]> Read as "screw over geo-fencing mode"
[2:30] <[Saint]> There's a LOT of debate and crying about it.
[2:30] <[Saint]> Technically legal, morally outright deviant.
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[2:30] <shiftplusone> Goldy, general hackery. Would like to tap into the VIC-II socket, throw in a compute module and get HDMI out, USB keyboard and so on.
[2:31] <shiftplusone> emulate a datasette, disk drive, cartridge... basically a way to have a pi provide all the things you'd want.
[2:31] <[Saint]> http://netguide.co.nz/story/slingshot-upgrades-global-mode-capitalises-kiwi-netflix/
[2:31] <shiftplusone> In other words.... I'll spend a day on it, and then they will sit there gathering dust for another 20 years.
[2:32] <[Saint]> tl;dr we can jump between locales, or appear to, as a service of the telco.
[2:32] <shiftplusone> that's handy
[2:33] <[Saint]> Netflix _reaaaaaaally_ hates it.
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[2:33] <methuzla> claudiop seems OK, but i've never tried to use the GPIO pins taken by I2C and UART
[2:33] <shiftplusone> I'm sure netflix doesn't care, it's the content providers applying pressure
[2:34] <Goldy> shiftplusone, cool i've kept mine stock need new CIA chips as 1 joystick doesn't work. I've been meaning to do something with my faulty vic-20, at least interfacing the keyboard
[2:34] <shiftplusone> [Saint], https://wikileaks.org/sony/emails/emailid/3124
[2:34] <claudiop> methuzla, Why's that? They seem to be the more ordered ones in the middle of the GPIO mess :p
[2:35] <shiftplusone> Goldy, I'd also like to try retr0bright. >.>
[2:36] <shiftplusone> One of the units is faulty, so if I can clean it up and get it working, I think I could get come money back for it.
[2:37] <Goldy> I'm not too fussed about the look, my c64 is OK looking, my Amiga 500 could do with it, but too much hassle for aesthetics
[2:38] <methuzla> claudiop i've never needed to, i'm often using i2c/spi, the uart is great for debug access
[2:38] <shiftplusone> Not if you're looking for something to do that isn't work-related >.>
[2:39] <Goldy> i've already got plenty of distracting projects
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[2:40] <claudiop> methuzla, Oh, that explains. Im not hoping in the foreseeable to be using them. They're the pro-hackerish-big-beard-guy sort of thing which I'll not need for a dummy RC car :p
[2:40] <shiftplusone> that's good
[2:41] <Goldy> i do need to find a job to distract me from my distractions though (just finished my degree)
[2:41] <shiftplusone> claudiop, bad stereotype is bad.
[2:41] <shiftplusone> I can say that.... I shaved today. >.>
[2:43] <SpeedEvil> My favourite stereotype is the ghetto blaster.
[2:43] <claudiop> shiftplusone, Okey, pro-hackerish-without-big-beard-guy :p
[2:43] <shiftplusone> heh
[2:43] <claudiop> Im kidding, but they're like advanced-ish features
[2:43] <claudiop> Newbs dont need them
[2:43] <shiftplusone> had to look up what a ghetto blaster is
[2:44] <[Saint]> ...wut?
[2:44] <[Saint]> DUDE.
[2:44] <[Saint]> <mutter mutter>...something...younguns'...<mutter mutter>
[2:45] <shiftplusone> What? I didn't know people called them that.
[2:45] <Goldy> claudiop, what os are you using
[2:45] <claudiop> Goldy, Am I supposed to need one of those? Im shorting the CPU directly for some "optimized assembly" :p
[2:45] <claudiop> Arch in other words
[2:47] <Goldy> was just wondering, a uart terminal is enabled by default in raspbian, could be messing with your control of pin 14?
[2:47] <methuzla> ^^ what i was thinking, but don't know for sure
[2:49] <Goldy> I would just try another pin, at least eliminate that factor
[2:50] <Goldy> or all 4, 17,21,22, 23 maybe? as methuzla said i2c might be ballsing you up too
[2:50] <claudiop> I already tried. It seems the pulse timming was up by an order of 10. Now it just needs like 7 seconds to rotate
[2:50] <claudiop> Im using 27, 22, 23, 24 right now
[2:51] <shiftplusone> Damn... I hope they plan to sell these later... didn't know of this kickstarter https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1670214687/original-commodore-64c-computer-housing-in-new-coo
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[2:52] <shiftplusone> Then again, I dont think I'd trust a kickstarted project with molded plastics. Everyone always gets everything wrong when it comes to that.
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[2:54] <Goldy> interestig to see varied colours from it, they nee to recreate the keayboard and just have them pi based
[2:54] <methuzla> claudiop so it's working?
[2:54] <shiftplusone> Goldy, almost there.... https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/brand-new-colored-keycaps-for-your-commodore-c64--2#/story
[2:55] <claudiop> methuzla, It's working for a while. The problem is the speed. I was hoping for this thing to be way faster. The fastest i can get is 3ms pulses
[2:55] <claudiop> Its no longer code or RPi fault
[2:55] <claudiop> I think
[2:56] <methuzla> claudiop steppers can only go so fast
[2:56] <methuzla> claudiop try it with StepDir = 1
[2:56] <ozzzy> I have some steppers that won't go faster than 5ms
[2:56] <Goldy> and they have pretty huge ratio on them?
[2:57] <ozzzy> [shrug]
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[2:58] <Goldy> shiftplusone, not a bad price for the keycaps either
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[2:58] <claudiop> methuzla, Instead of 7 secods for each rotation it takes 12 with StepDir = 1 since it does 8 steps instead of 4
[2:58] <claudiop> If i want to drive a wheel, whats the adequate type of motor?
[2:58] <claudiop> I mean, motors in which i can control the amount of rotation
[2:58] <ozzzy> how accurate do you want the motion to be
[2:58] <shiftplusone> again though... crowdfunding.... they tend to be bad at planning and getting the pricing right.
[2:59] <claudiop> Like a quarter of a turn is accurate enough
[2:59] <ozzzy> then you can use a DC motor
[2:59] <claudiop> but a DC motor has no control over rotation
[2:59] <claudiop> Does it?
[2:59] <ozzzy> sure as hell does
[2:59] <Goldy> ^^ with hall effect or rotary encoding
[3:00] <ozzzy> you can turn the speed down and pulse it for as little as 10ms
[3:00] <ozzzy> or cheaper you can set the speed (pwm) and measure the rotation speed and if you want 1/8 rotation then pulse it for 1/8 the time it takes for a full rotation
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[3:01] <ozzzy> and if you're using a geared motor you can control it finer
[3:01] * ozzzy uses LOTS of motors
[3:01] <claudiop> Are you talking about what I think you're talking?(those motors which spin fast has hell but only have two pins +,gnd) Or are any special type of DC motor with a third pin to control rotations?
[3:01] <claudiop> Like fan PWM?
[3:02] <ozzzy> just a regular DC motor... two terminals
[3:02] <claudiop> Okey, didn't knew about it. Got to read about it :p
[3:02] <claudiop> Oh, and BTW, how many current can i draw directly from the GPIO?
[3:02] <claudiop> Enough to power a small motor?
[3:02] <ozzzy> no
[3:03] <Goldy> although my experience with using pwm straight off of the GPIO has not been great with motors
[3:03] <ozzzy> use a motor chip... L293D for DC or ULN2003 for stepper
[3:04] <claudiop> ozzzy, Im using an ULN with this stepper Im using, but have no L293D. Didn't wanted to wait a year and two full moons for it to come from ebay :p
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[3:04] <claudiop> Any other way to do it without that chip?
[3:04] <ozzzy> well.. you can get them from mouser or digikey
[3:04] <ozzzy> claudiop, a handful of FETs and diodes
[3:05] <ozzzy> you could build your own H-bridge
[3:05] <claudiop> ozzzy, Im in Europe, NA stores wont help. I'll check that H-bridge thing
[3:05] <claudiop> Does a relay also solves?
[3:06] <claudiop> *not really into the eletronics thing*
[3:06] <ozzzy> I wouldn't use relays
[3:06] <ozzzy> but there are suppliers in EU for parts
[3:06] <claudiop> ozzzy, Why not relays? Except for being big for small projects whats their problem?
[3:07] <Goldy> RS most likely ship to you, dunno if you have to reach a minimum order price or anything though
[3:07] <Goldy> relays are sloooooow
[3:07] <methuzla> claudiop what's the actual chip on that board you're using?
[3:07] <claudiop> Goldy, Yea probably, I've heard about it so it should. Got to talk to my eletronic things mate. He'll know better.
[3:08] <claudiop> There are eletronic relays, right? Are they also slow?
[3:08] <claudiop> I mean, the non-mechanical ones
[3:08] <ozzzy> you could use relays... don't forget to protect the circuitry
[3:08] <ozzzy> I'm not a fan of relays when I can use fast, high-current parts
[3:09] <ozzzy> with no moving mass
[3:09] <claudiop> methuzla, uln2003APG i think. Too dark to see now
[3:09] <ozzzy> good for steppers....
[3:09] <claudiop> ozzzy, What do you mean by protecting? They are the part which protects (or these fancy chips we're talking about) no? Or do I need any protection besides relays?
[3:11] <ozzzy> any time you have any coils, motors, other inductors you have to protect the rest of the circuitry... when power is cut from a coil and the magnetic field collapses lots of voltages can start flying around
[3:11] <ozzzy> so you put a flyback diode reverse biased across the inductor
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[3:12] <claudiop> ozzzy, Yea, i've heard about that effect. But any diode solves the feedback at the tiny tiny cost of only 0.7v :p
[3:12] <claudiop> Does the transformer also need protection?
[3:12] <claudiop> I mean, if only using a relay, a transformer and a motor
[3:12] <claudiop> Do i need a diode in such case?
[3:13] <ozzzy> you're not understanding... it's not a rectifying diode... it's a steering diode
[3:13] <divx118> claudiop http://www.conrad.com/ce/en/product/156134/STMicroelectronics-L293D-Linear-IC-DIP16-4-channel-motor-driver option for you? I order electronic stuff mostly by them if I cant wait a month or two.
[3:13] <ozzzy> if the relay is connected to a gpio you have to protect the gpio
[3:13] <ozzzy> I've bought stuff from conrad =)
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[3:14] <claudiop> ozzzy, To me diodes are all the same. The only ones i know which are different are the zener diodes. It all came from a weird explanation of a friend
[3:15] <ozzzy> read up on flyback diodes (snubber diodes... freewheel diodes)
[3:15] <ozzzy> you'll see what I mean
[3:15] <claudiop> "Diodes are the male parts of eletronics. None of them are gay, the current only flows one way... except for the zener ones"
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[3:15] <ozzzy> the voltage drop doesn't come into play
[3:16] <kllrd> I recently got my PI and a bunch of random stuff. i see you said you need to protect the GPIO if you use a relay board? how do you do that
[3:16] <ozzzy> http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=https://brenamanf.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/flyback_diode.gif&imgrefurl=https://brenamanf.wordpress.com/2014/08/28/disaster-of-the-last-week-flyback-diode-protection/&h=192&w=249&tbnid=068C84sLxPOfpM:&zoom=1&tbnh=141&tbnw=184&usg=__npRqe8cApMT13YVmD26Jv0n1dz8=&docid=YFkb6j4WZvkiXM&itg=1
[3:16] <ozzzy> damn
[3:16] <claudiop> ozzzy, Okey, I'll read into those. Take some free time from me ;)
[3:16] <ozzzy> http://goo.gl/2eWxhI
[3:16] <ozzzy> just click on that and see where the diode goes
[3:17] <claudiop> Oh, just one last question
[3:17] <niston> claudiop: if you use relays to implement a H bridge, you should be wary of timing
[3:17] <claudiop> Is there any simple intuitive way to test circuitry by software? I mean, simulate a circuit, and feedbacks among other evil things that eat Pi's?
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[3:18] <claudiop> Not a professional OMG-SO-PRO program which has a 500 page manual. Something simple
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[3:21] <Goldy> not that I know of, at least not one that will indicate if youd destroy a pi(or any microcontroller), I think you just need to be aware of the pitfalls
[3:24] <Goldy> and if in doubt shout, or search. I'm not an electronics genius I just know whether what ive done worked or not
[3:26] <claudiop> Goldy, Thanks. Im asking just in case I need to do any more out-of-my-field work (which isn't that bad). My matey should do this for me, and I can blame him in case s*it happens to the pi :p
[3:26] <claudiop> I just tried this today because really wanted to know if the motor worked
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[3:27] <Goldy> luckily RPis aren't too costly. But ive not destroyed any yet
[3:28] <methuzla> claudiop don't worry so much you're afraid to try. the pi was made as cheap as possible to mitigate that.
[3:28] <methuzla> smoke monster teaches much
[3:29] <claudiop> For unemployed students in a country under recession they are also not that cheap. Not expensive neither cheap.
[3:30] <claudiop> The new 9$ "CHIP" thing is cheap, Pi is a little more expensive
[3:30] <claudiop> If I'd need something to burn trying circuits it would be one of those
[3:30] <Goldy> CHIP is also almosta a year away from release?
[3:31] <CanDoo> good evening
[3:31] <SpeedEvil> The $9 Pi thing is also $20 to ship to the UK
[3:31] <CanDoo> it's actually pretty hard in my opiinon to damage a rpi
[3:31] <claudiop> Goldy, dunno, just read about it in the news. Ok ok, an arduino, happy now? :p
[3:31] <claudiop> SpeedEvil, really?
[3:31] <SpeedEvil> yes
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[3:32] <SpeedEvil> I assume they haven't managed to tell their vendor that some don't have lithium-ion in
[3:33] <claudiop> SpeedEvil, You mean the battery with the fully assembled (gameboy-like) one? Does that takes extra tax for having lithium on it?
[3:33] <SpeedEvil> I mean - I can hire someone for $20/hr to put 60 in a padded envelope with antistatic bag an hour and write the label on.
[3:33] <SpeedEvil> claudiop: not quite - lithium ion batteries are since quite recently _much_ more heavily regulated to ship.
[3:34] <SpeedEvil> Owing to them being fingered as the possible cause of planes falling out of the sky
[3:34] <Goldy> these are (somewhat) interesting to play with, http://uk.farnell.com/stmicroelectronics/nucleo-f411re/dev-board-stm32f411re-cortex-m4/dp/2433469
[3:34] <SpeedEvil> esp8266 is awesome too
[3:35] <SpeedEvil> it can be setup to do interrupts at 100khz - while doing wifi - and bang 16 bits out to a SPI GPIO port every interrupt
[3:35] <claudiop> Why would a pile of lithium take a plane out of the sky? I mean, a pile of lithium with less than an hundred tonnes
[3:35] <SpeedEvil> claudiop: fire
[3:35] <CanDoo> does anyone know how to calculate capacitor values for smoothing dc voltages?'
[3:35] <SpeedEvil> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UPS_Airlines_Flight_6
[3:35] <claudiop> SpeedEvil, I thought it was quite hard and rare for a battery to be set on fire without a lot of abuse. Thanks for the insight
[3:36] <SpeedEvil> n September 24, 2013, the GCAA released its comprehensive, 322-page report on the crash, which found “with reasonable certainty” that the fire which caused the crash originated in a cargo container which held thousands of lithium batteries
[3:36] <SpeedEvil> CanDoo: It's a very complex general topic
[3:36] <SpeedEvil> CanDoo: do you have a specific quesiton?
[3:36] <CanDoo> just trying to calculate cap values for my LED matrixes
[3:37] <SpeedEvil> What do you mean.
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[3:37] <CanDoo> well the ATX power supply i use to run the panels has the occasional spike or dip
[3:37] <CanDoo> a smoothing cap would help
[3:37] <CanDoo> buti'm not sure how to calculate the value of the cap
[3:38] <SpeedEvil> how many amps are these panels?
[3:38] <CanDoo> 96x16x3
[3:38] <SpeedEvil> That seems unlikely.
[3:39] <CanDoo> oops
[3:39] <CanDoo> 32x16x3
[3:39] <CanDoo> 96 total width
[3:39] <SpeedEvil> 1500A seems high.
[3:39] <CanDoo> oh amps
[3:39] <CanDoo> hehe
[3:39] <CanDoo> about 3.5x3
[3:39] <SpeedEvil> 9A@5V?
[3:39] <SpeedEvil> or 3.3V
[3:39] <CanDoo> so about 12amps at full brightness
[3:40] <SpeedEvil> 12A@5V should not remotely tax an ATX PSU
[3:40] <CanDoo> 5v @ 3.5 per panel 3 panels
[3:40] <CanDoo> well the psu seems to get feedback from the PWM going on
[3:40] <SpeedEvil> why do you think you need smooting?
[3:40] <CanDoo> the PSU hums at verious freq's
[3:41] <CanDoo> the panels flicker brighter and dimmer during operation
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[3:41] <SpeedEvil> you might try something around a 10000uF 6.3V cap
[3:42] <SpeedEvil> I assume you have no scope?
[3:42] <CanDoo> yes i have a scope hehe
[3:43] <SpeedEvil> what does the voltage look like
[3:43] <CanDoo> iv not measured it
[3:43] <CanDoo> yet
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[3:43] <CanDoo> i went by the spec sheet on the panels
[3:43] <CanDoo> i was bieng lazy
[3:43] <CanDoo> but yeah I should measure it
[3:44] <CanDoo> when i do get a cap i'm probibly go with several in parelle with low ESR
[3:44] <CanDoo> to get my value
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[3:45] <SpeedEvil> probably a good plan
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[4:00] <MACscr> i just realized i didnt order a sd card for my pi2 that gets here on Tuesday. Am i fine with just using a usb flash drive for the OS?
[4:01] <methuzla> no
[4:01] <pksato> NO.
[4:01] <shiftplusone> Kind of
[4:01] <shiftplusone> you could have the kernel and firmware on the sd
[4:01] <shiftplusone> and the rest on the flash drive
[4:02] <methuzla> but no sd = no kernel/firmware, so pretty much stuck
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[4:03] <kllrd> anyone familiar with Jasper voice control?
[4:04] <pksato> raspberry pi B/B+ peripherals arrangement not permit boot from USB.
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[4:07] <ozzzy> they're designed to boot from the SD
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[4:20] <kllrd> Has there been any success using multiple usb cameras and switching between them in real time
[4:22] <methuzla> nope. only non-euclidean newtonian phase shift corrected time.
[4:23] <ozzzy> I've had luck applying a 6 dimensional shift in a Reimanian manifold
[4:24] <kllrd> lol, well know of a guide on switchin cameras? im new to pi/python
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[4:30] <methuzla> kllrd what kind of usb cameras?
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[4:37] <kllrd> just general supported webcams
[4:37] <kllrd> i have one workin fine using the motion software, just curious if its possible to use more, attached to a usb hub for example, and to be able to change to different active cameras on the fly
[4:40] <Sonny_Jim> Not really
[4:40] <Sonny_Jim> Well, depends on the software
[4:40] <Sonny_Jim> afaik motion only supports one camera at a time
[4:42] <Sonny_Jim> Oh ok apparently it does
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[4:45] <kllrd> does what?
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[6:58] <kllrd> Anyone know a website to order the male and female ends for breadboard connector cables, so i can make my own?
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[7:09] <Triffid_Hunter> kllrd: I use cat5 network cable for breadboarding
[7:10] <Triffid_Hunter> cut the outer sheath, untwist the pairs, and tada! you have 8 colours of solid core copper wire
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[7:30] <Froolap> mumble
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[7:36] * pmumble blinks.
[7:36] <pmumble> i will have to remember that, Triffid_Hunter. thanks for the awesome idea. :)
[7:36] <Triffid_Hunter> yw :)
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[7:48] <kllrd> yeah good idea, thanks. the reason i was askin for the pins is bc i need a female for some of the sensors and stuff that I have on the way
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[7:52] <ckuttruff> any sonic pi users here who have experience with using midi controllers to drive samples, etc?
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[7:56] <ckuttruff> nm... just saw this:
[7:56] <ckuttruff> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/sonic-pi/midi$20/sonic-pi/5SnRsVYOO7w/WfqRgY--RREJ
[7:56] <ckuttruff> thanks :)
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[9:13] <Froolap> should I let the smoke out og my rpi2?
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[9:34] <pmumble> nooooo
[9:34] <Froolap> I don't know, but I think that I might
[9:35] <pmumble> via what method?
[9:35] <Froolap> stupidity
[9:37] <Froolap> I want to power my pi by tapping into the red and black wires for an extra hard drive molex connector in my desktop.
[9:38] <ShorTie> i got a pi on the wall powered that way
[9:38] <pmumble> just because?
[9:40] <Froolap> but for some reason there's two black wires..... I know red is 5v and yellow is 12v...... but is there a dedicate ground for 5v and a different ground for 12v?
[9:40] <ShorTie> scraped out a old floppy drive for that connector, some 18awg wire to a male micro-usb end i got from ebay
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[9:40] <ShorTie> no, grounds are like always hooked together
[9:40] <Froolap> no, not a just because.....
[9:41] <Froolap> I have 3 pi and I hate using an outlet for each pi when I'm running a desktop that should be able to power them all, and it would cut down on the required wires
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[9:43] <Froolap> and for extra joy, I have micro-usb cables that have an off-on switch, so no more pull the connector out and put it back to power cycle the pi.
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[9:44] <pmumble> that's cool. sounds like a good idea
[9:45] <Froolap> so it would be pretty to take a slot-cover off of an unused pci slot, and run the wires through there
[9:46] <Froolap> and since I tend to keep my pi on top of the tower case. slick
[9:46] <pmumble> so you use the GPIO 5v/ground for that?
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[9:47] <pmumble> or the usb cable connector?
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[9:49] <Froolap> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JU24Z3W/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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[9:50] <Froolap> cut off the Large usb plug and then feed the wires into a hdd molex splitter..... remove the unwanted pins and pig tails.
[9:51] <pmumble> how many amps do usb outs on computers generally put out? just curious 1A?
[9:51] <ShorTie> nuffin wrong wif that
[9:51] <Froolap> so now I have a 2 pin female molex that will connect to one of my computer's power supply hard drive molex.
[9:51] <ShorTie> usb spec is 500ma
[9:51] <pmumble> oh wow ok
[9:53] <Froolap> I tried running ot off of my computer usb port just for the sake of lets test before I cut..... it did boot my rpi2b but I was getting the rainbow in the top right that says it's not happy.
[9:54] <Froolap> I just remember my early days of computer repair. I had a friend with an odd situation of if they plugged in a hard drive then the system wouldn't boot, but if they disconnected the drive, then the system would start to boot till it couldn't load the os.....
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[9:55] <Froolap> Ok, so I bring my computer over and I plug the hard drive power into my computer and plug the hard drive data into their computer. Power up their computer and it boots up pretty.
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[9:56] <Froolap> But, you know, the computeres were pretty close together and when the cases touched, lots of sparks...
[9:56] <Froolap> floating ground situation
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[9:58] <Froolap> powered down both systems, reconnected their drive to their power supply, and for whatever reason, the system booted properly. them sparks cleard out the cob webs.
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[10:35] <squeakytoy> Hey all. Lets say I simply want to use wifi and a browser+flash on a raspberry pi, what image/setup would you guys recommend?
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[10:36] <Berg> hello world
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[10:38] <pmumble> hay
[10:39] <pmumble> probably raspbian, but i haven't tried to get flash working
[10:40] <pmumble> is flash still supported on linux?
[10:41] <pmumble> it looks like gnash is part of the raspbian dist
[10:41] <Berg> i knoiw there are issues with adobe not supporting linux
[10:41] <pmumble> i haven't tried it, but that appears to be an open source swf player
[10:42] <squeakytoy> i am also confused about ubuntu mate vs snappy - why have two ubuntues on raspberry pi O_O
[10:42] <Berg> I started using html 5
[10:42] <pmumble> lightspark is the other, and it is also part of the dist
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[10:42] <pmumble> snappy ubuntu core isnt a desktop dist, it's for developers
[10:43] <squeakytoy> whats better for a plain browser?
[10:43] <squeakytoy> or high probability to get flash working*
[10:43] <pmumble> raspbian is the most well supported dist for the pi, so if you're new to the pi i'd recommend that
[10:43] * HeroYooj_ is now known as HeroYoojin
[10:44] <Berg> raspbarian and iceweasle is my mix
[10:44] <Berg> the default brouser is slow
[10:44] <squeakytoy> i did yesterday, but didnt get the darn flash working
[10:44] <pmumble> and i'd try to get lightspark or gnash working in iceweasel
[10:44] <pmumble> for flash
[10:44] <squeakytoy> i tried gnash, but was super slow
[10:44] <squeakytoy> not really sure why ths is an issue 2015, oh come on
[10:44] <Berg> how did that go pmumble
[10:45] <pmumble> cause flash is proprietary tech
[10:45] <pmumble> and html5 is replacing it
[10:45] <pmumble> it needs to go
[10:45] <squeakytoy> we are going to send people to mars, but we can't get a simple browser with flash working without 200 hours of headache?
[10:45] <Berg> did you try the addons? or extiens web pages?
[10:45] <pmumble> Berg: i was just suggesting for squeakytoy.. i haven't tried it, myself
[10:46] <Berg> i havent needed flsash or swf
[10:46] <Berg> i as said use html5
[10:46] <squeakytoy> youtube + iceweasel yesterday performed really bad
[10:46] <Berg> connection speed?
[10:46] <squeakytoy> html5
[10:46] <squeakytoy> just lags like razy, audio sync problems
[10:47] <squeakytoy> i just want flash
[10:47] <squeakytoy> i will try ubuntu mate
[10:47] <squeakytoy> or snappy
[10:47] <squeakytoy> still dont understand why there are two versions
[10:48] <pmumble> snappy has no gui
[10:48] <squeakytoy> ok, then its not for me, as a linux newbie :(
[10:48] <squeakytoy> thanks
[10:50] <Froolap> squeakytoy: any
[10:50] <Berg> on iuceweasle gotro tools/addons
[10:50] <Berg> type in flash in search box
[10:51] <Froolap> pidora and firefox
[10:52] <pmumble> thought pidora wasnt for pi2 yet?
[10:53] <Froolap> I got it werkin
[10:53] <pmumble> oh cool
[10:53] <Berg> you got all sorts of south pole animals on pi2
[10:54] <Berg> aqnd better then cool its cold
[10:54] <pmumble> lol
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[10:55] <Froolap> https://github.com/spartacus06/rpi2-fedora-image-builder
[10:55] <Froolap> real easy to run and set up.
[10:56] <Froolap> goes off of fedora-arm and inserts the rpi firmware
[10:56] <Froolap> works a treat
[10:56] <pmumble> checked out iceweasel and youtube. is a little laggy, true. poor little arm is pegged lol
[10:56] * pmumble doesn't try to use his pi for these things.
[10:57] <pmumble> thanks, i'll play with that frooloop
[10:57] <pmumble> i am a el guy
[10:57] <Froolap> didn't you know that you have to give your arm a hand?
[10:58] <squeakytoy> pmumble, with flash?
[10:58] <Froolap> I've built the xfce and minimal images with that, both booted,
[10:58] <pmumble> naw just youtube
[10:58] <Armand> Froolap: Leave me out of this! :P
[10:59] <Berg> the arm is very handy for many things but vids it dont have a leg to stand on
[10:59] <Berg> i could not help myself
[10:59] <Froolap> Armand: no. i can't do that. but I'll give you a H that you can use for armHand
[10:59] <pmumble> i am about to try it
[10:59] <squeakytoy> should have bought an intel nuc
[10:59] <Armand> Froolap: ^_^
[10:59] <pmumble> lol. just got that.. arm and a hand :p
[10:59] <Froolap> =-=
[10:59] <Armand> \o/
[11:00] <pmumble> can you buy a nuc for $35?
[11:00] <Berg> i just gheard a penny drop
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[11:00] <pmumble> personally i bought a gigabyte brix
[11:00] <pmumble> is like a nuc but cheaper
[11:00] * Armand assimilates Berg's penny
[11:00] <squeakytoy> pmumble, no, but then again, you need to spend additional 40 USD on pi asscessories
[11:00] <squeakytoy> ss*
[11:00] <Berg> you asked for it
[11:00] <squeakytoy> i know, i know
[11:01] <Berg> waitr wait
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[11:01] <The_Borg> resistance is futile
[11:01] <Armand> I'd say the ODroid C1 would be a better option, depending on usage.
[11:01] <The_Borg> hay bergh
[11:01] <The_Borg> the borg has assimilated this pi
[11:01] <The_Borg> hehe
[11:01] * Armand adds a 500ohm resistor to The_Borg's central nexus.
[11:01] <Froolap> resistance is 10k ohm
[11:02] * H__ rolls over
[11:02] * Armand promptly forgets all about electronics and stoofs..
[11:02] <Berg> its all good thats my pi2 its been running on rempote desktop for 4 days now no errors crashes or bugups
[11:02] <squeakytoy> i also thinks its super weird why you cant install windows 10 on raspberry with a simple downloadable image
[11:03] <jzaw> The_Borg, nope ... resistance is ohmic :)
[11:03] <Berg> why would you wont to poison your pi?
[11:03] <pmumble> cause people who like to hack things generally dont prefer windows
[11:03] <Froolap> well, lets see if i can blow up my pi and my desktop at the same time
[11:03] <pmumble> and the pi is for hacking
[11:04] <Froolap> Yeah, I always prefered desqview to windows,
[11:04] <pmumble> ok now i need a flash site
[11:04] <pmumble> i got this stuff installed
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[11:04] <Froolap> pmumble: games.com
[11:04] <Berg> fly little pi fly
[11:05] <squeakytoy> a nuc with 8gb ram, 500 gb hhd, is around 310 USD
[11:05] <The_Borg> ouch
[11:05] <pmumble> my gigabyte brix with 8gb ram and a 750gb hd was $200
[11:05] <The_Borg> you may as well by a real PC
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[11:06] <squeakytoy> The_Borg, it is a real computer tho
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[11:06] <The_Borg> 16gig ram and 8core prosessor is real
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[11:07] <pmumble> what cpu is that nuc, squeakytoy ?
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[11:07] <squeakytoy> intel celeron n2820
[11:07] <pmumble> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856164017
[11:07] <pmumble> thats the one i built for $200
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[11:08] <squeakytoy> how much ram?
[11:08] <pmumble> works great for a centos box, can run lots of vms and still play youtube videos or whatever
[11:08] <pmumble> 8gb
[11:08] <squeakytoy> flash works? :<
[11:09] <pmumble> i dunno, i've never tried. my main machine is a macbook
[11:09] <pmumble> i do that stuff on it
[11:10] <pmumble> im sure it'd run flash as well as any other linux box
[11:10] <pmumble> its plenty fast
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[11:14] <H__> pmumble: is that minipc fanless ?
[11:14] <pmumble> yep
[11:15] <pmumble> it was silent until i swapped out the ssd for a hdd
[11:15] <pmumble> but i bricked the ssd by knocking the power by accident
[11:16] <H__> any optical spdif on board ?
[11:16] <pmumble> nope
[11:16] <pmumble> just hdmi and 3.5mm
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[11:29] <pmumble> how big did you go with your rootfs Froolap ?
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[11:30] <pmumble> oh nvm
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[11:37] <dLux> wassup pi fellas
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[11:39] <Captain_Crow> will something like unetbootin work with raspbian?
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[11:41] <pmumble> here goes nothin Froolap. writing the image out. :)
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[11:41] <pmumble> hey
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[11:47] <pmumble> well that was easy
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[11:52] <AfterDarkness> Triffid_Hunter, hello how are you today :)
[11:54] <AfterDarkness> i have implemented your circuit. however it is not quit working. The solenoid is only getting 6volts. The mosfet Vds was 19 volt
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[11:57] <AfterDarkness> this is strange. and JP1(1) V didn't change anything, that part is not correctly connected probably, but hey at least no more mosfets are broken :P
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[11:59] <SpeedEvil> What FET?
[12:00] <AfterDarkness> SpeedEvil, are you talkin to me?
[12:00] <SpeedEvil> yes
[12:00] <AfterDarkness> well i broke one few days ago
[12:00] <SpeedEvil> Many FETs will not properly work with 3.3V gate drive.
[12:01] <SpeedEvil> Most FETs are not guaranteed to work with it at all
[12:01] <AfterDarkness> yes i am supplying 12 volts to its gate
[12:01] <SpeedEvil> ah
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[12:01] <AfterDarkness> as i said the Vds was 19 volts which is my power supply voltage
[12:01] <AfterDarkness> but the solenoid voltage was 6 somehow
[12:01] <SpeedEvil> was the FET getting very hot?
[12:02] <AfterDarkness> not at all
[12:02] <SpeedEvil> What is the circuit?
[12:02] <AfterDarkness> i learned my mistake i wasnt connecting positive to the diode :D
[12:02] <AfterDarkness> http://triffid-hunter.no-ip.info/gate%20driver.png
[12:02] <AfterDarkness> although some changes has been made to it
[12:03] <AfterDarkness> the crude regulator was replaced with a 7812 and the supply voltage is 19v
[12:05] <SpeedEvil> That does not seem like a great gate driver circuit
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[12:05] <AfterDarkness> I welcome any suggestions
[12:06] <SpeedEvil> If you're going to do that - then simply using a gate driver chip would be mich simpler.
[12:07] <SpeedEvil> First step.
[12:07] <SpeedEvil> What is the actual gate voltage.
[12:07] <AfterDarkness> the thing is i can't get one quickly i need to make this work by THU
[12:07] <AfterDarkness> gate voltage is 12v
[12:07] <AfterDarkness> from the 7812
[12:08] <SpeedEvil> I mean - actual gate voltage in the circuit
[12:08] <SpeedEvil> does it actually go from ~12 to ~0
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[12:09] <SpeedEvil> What speed do you need to switch this at?
[12:09] <AfterDarkness> i didnt test that
[12:09] <AfterDarkness> speed is not an issue as long as it work in my case
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[12:11] <SpeedEvil> If you're just driving a slow solenoid, I would take one NPN transistor, emitter to ground, collector to +12V through a 1K resistor, base through a 1K resistor to the GPIO
[12:11] <SpeedEvil> and the gate to the junction of the resistor and transistor
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[12:12] <SpeedEvil> This will 'only' turn on or off in about a microsecond.
[12:12] <SpeedEvil> which isn't great if you're trying to do ~100kHz switching
[12:12] <SpeedEvil> but for solenoids, it's quite adequate
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[12:12] <AfterDarkness> btw there are other changes in the circuit: 1- Q7 was replaced with a bc548 and R7 in series with base of Q7 and jp1(1). 2- D3 is a 1n5819
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[12:13] <SpeedEvil> I haven't fully analysed the circuit - it does not look impossible it will ever work - but I don't know if it will.
[12:13] <AfterDarkness> emitor of Q7 to ground and collector to R1
[12:13] <AfterDarkness> I see
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[12:14] <SpeedEvil> But - the BC548 is quite adequate for the above single-transistor driver.
[12:15] <SpeedEvil> However - step zero - if you've already implemented this gate driver is to actually measure the voltage on the gate
[12:15] <AfterDarkness> alright, ill measure that and get back
[12:16] <kanzie> Im stumped by why my Pi2 that I bought with the Noobs1.4 card preinstalled after installing three applications suddenly are at 100% disk usage so now it is unusable. I believe it is because it also comes with OpenElec 1 and 2 on it or something. My ‘df’ looks like this: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9b3dbaefc93b185886f5
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[12:16] <kanzie> right now Im thinking if I do best in just wiping the card and install raspian from scratch again?
[12:16] <SpeedEvil> What size of SD is this?
[12:17] <kanzie> Do you guys have any valuable assistance?
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[12:17] <kanzie> 8gb
[12:17] <kanzie> SpeedEvil: ^^
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[12:17] <SpeedEvil> As I understand it there is some optional step to make the filesystem teh whole size of the SD
[12:17] <kanzie> SpeedEvil: it claims to be already expanded (the FS that is) when I try expanding it in the Rasp. config tool
[12:17] <SpeedEvil> ah
[12:17] <SpeedEvil> if you start out with no disk space it may be unable to do that
[12:17] <pmumble> that was an 8GB card, right?
[12:18] <kanzie> yeah
[12:18] <SpeedEvil> I have however no experience of this
[12:18] <pmumble> examine the partition table and calculate the used space
[12:19] <pmumble> i'd guess it's likely that the other OS's you installed are taking up the rest of the room though
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[12:19] <kanzie> thats my thought too, but that is openelec and they claim to only take up about 200mb each, I however did not install any of them it came on the card
[12:19] <kanzie> I just installed Kodi and Deluge
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[12:26] <ambodi> Guys, I have this a bit crazy idea
[12:26] <ambodi> I wanna use my raspberry pi as my development machine
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[12:27] <ambodi> I wanna use it just to write the code and remotely debug it on my digital ocean instance
[12:28] <ambodi> for that, is there a nice IDE becausse I use mainly Java
[12:29] <SpeedEvil> It is not in principle impossible.
[12:29] <SpeedEvil> If you must, then use a USB SATA SSD enclosure as main storage
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[12:31] <ambodi> SpeedDevil, thanks!
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[12:31] <ambodi> It's not really a must, I wanna experiment with it
[12:32] <ambodi> why? what is good about USB SATA SSD?
[12:32] <ambodi> BTW, what's your suggestion about the distribution I should use?
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[12:33] <SpeedEvil> ambodi: SD cards are hideously unreliable and slow in general when used as main storage
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[12:36] <ambodi> Oh cool. Will take that into consideration
[12:37] <ambodi> what's the best distro for that purpose, you think @SpeedEvil?
[12:37] <SpeedEvil> No clue.
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[12:37] <ambodi> You use raspberry for dev purposes?
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[12:39] <kanzie> ambodi: it is not a crazy idea at all… I dont know that many people that use it as dev machine but I see no reason why it wouldnt be good for it. I do know a bunch of people who run their webservers on Pi so...
[12:39] <ambodi> oh yeah? cool.
[12:40] <kanzie> Im not sure what you hope to gain from it instead of just running a VM on your laptop but to each his own I guess
[12:40] <ambodi> Kanzie, what do you think about SpeedEvil's suggestion about USB SATA SSD?
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[12:40] <ambodi> I don't have money to buy a Macbook pro for my home
[12:40] <ambodi> :D
[12:40] <ambodi> that's the honest truth
[12:40] <ambodi> but I have a digital ocean instance
[12:40] <kanzie> ambodi: Then you have a great option in the Pi
[12:40] <ambodi> so basically I wanna see if I can use that instead
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[12:40] <kanzie> but what do you use for development then?
[12:40] <kanzie> You mean to use the Pi with a keyboard and screen?
[12:41] <ambodi> yeah
[12:41] <ambodi> :)
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[12:41] <kanzie> ah ok
[12:42] <kanzie> yeah should be great for that
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[12:42] <kanzie> but what do you code in?
[12:42] <kanzie> vim or such?
[12:43] <kanzie> ambodi: As for SpeedEvils suggestion I mostly agreee… you dont need a SATA SSD, but you would want some kind of external media, the bigger the better.
[12:43] <kanzie> If money is why you want to use the Pi for dev then I dont think the best, fastest external USB is the way to go, but any external USB drive
[12:43] <kanzie> Naturally the faster the nicer of an experience
[12:44] <AfterDarkness> SpeedEvil, okay the gate voltage appears to be zero volts but just to be sure looking at the schematics where am i supposed to connect my probes to measure the gate voltage
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[12:45] <AfterDarkness> my probes where connected from D1 to gate is that what u were asking for?
[12:46] <AfterDarkness> this means that my Q7 or Q3 connections is wrong right
[12:46] <AfterDarkness> or both
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[13:08] <Tenchworks> Morning everyone
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[13:09] <Tenchworks> Figured I'd pop on and stick around for a bit while I dist-upgrade my Pi, just incase i run into any odd issues
[13:09] <Tenchworks> did this once before (squeeze>wheezy), hoping it will be as smooth as last time
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[13:37] <knob> Good morning all! o/
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[13:45] <kanzie> So, Im mouting a LVM with ext4 and see the directory structure but not the files, what could be the cause for that?
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[14:05] <Tenkawa> hi all
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[14:06] <Tenkawa> santoscrew: santos as in footba
[14:06] <Tenkawa> ?
[14:06] <Tenkawa> er footba
[14:06] <Tenkawa> ll
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[14:12] <tchiwam> How clever is the micro usb port on the Rpi2 ? I try to power it from a DC-DC, even added the 200ohm between D+ and D-, still having troubles to keep up even if I have 2A 5V, but when I use the wall USB power brick it goes well....
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[14:14] <Tenkawa> tchiwam: what kind of failures/outages do you get?
[14:14] * McSleep is now known as McBride36
[14:14] <Tenkawa> might be going into power savings if its idle (just a theory though)
[14:15] <tchiwam> It's the little colour square in the top right
[14:16] <Tenkawa> tchiwam: anything making it to syslog before the crash?
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[14:17] <tchiwam> It doesn't get to the crash, so far. But this problem goes away if I power the Pi from the GPIO pins
[14:17] <Tenkawa> interesting
[14:18] <tchiwam> It will max out at about 700mA, I have an Amp meter
[14:18] <Tenkawa> unfortunately i wont be much more help.. i run mine 2A straight micro usb header to the back
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[14:18] <tchiwam> But with the 2A power brick giving out the USB, it does work like a charm
[14:18] <Tenkawa> yeah same here
[14:19] <Tenkawa> all 4 of my units are powered that way
[14:19] <Tenkawa> good luck though..
[14:19] <Tenkawa> will definitely be interesting to find the answer
[14:19] <tchiwam> Well Ill need the DC-DC possiblity ... HUmm, oh well
[14:20] <Tenkawa> i tgink the dc-dc has a current limit
[14:20] <tchiwam> Yep this one has 3A @ 5V
[14:20] <Tenkawa> however dont quote me
[14:20] <Tenkawa> brb..afk
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[14:36] <Tenchworks> well partial upgrade done, now the full course
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[14:44] <SirLagz> wooo got me some DS18B20s
[14:44] <SirLagz> time to get some temp sensing going
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[14:46] <Tenkawa> Tenchworks: what kind of upgrade if you dont mind me asking?
[14:47] <Tenchworks> running an old image on my Pi from before raspian's release
[14:47] <Tenkawa> ahhh cool
[14:47] <ambodi> Anybody here have used or heard people using raspberry pi as a development machine?
[14:47] <Tenchworks> been keeping it up to date and went from squeeze to wheezy a year ago, now I'm going up to jessie to stay current
[14:48] <SirLagz> ambodi: I'm about to start doing that now
[14:48] <Tenkawa> ambodi: sure.. what kind of dev?
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[14:48] <ambodi> I am trying to move everything on my digital ocean instance
[14:48] <Tenkawa> Tenchworks: yeah i run mostly mainline debian
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[14:49] <Tenkawa> Tenchworks: mostly dev/unstable because i do a lot of tweakinb
[14:49] <Tenkawa> er tweaking
[14:49] <Tenkawa> ambodi: ahhh
[14:49] <Tenkawa> ambodi: rpi's make great dev boxes for me
[14:49] <ambodi> oh so you run debian main distro image?
[14:49] <Tenkawa> yep
[14:50] <ambodi> guys, how can I mention your name like you do (newbie alert)
[14:50] <Tenkawa> i use the rpi kernel source and tune it the way i need
[14:50] <ambodi> Isn't it slow? I mean Raspbian is already slow to my opinion
[14:50] <ambodi> I wanna do java stuff
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[14:50] <Tenkawa> what kind of sd card you using? and which pi?
[14:51] <Tenkawa> i use all rpi2's
[14:51] <ambodi> pi 2
[14:51] <ambodi> and it's a samsung sd card
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[14:51] <ambodi> nothing special
[14:51] <Tenkawa> hmm my pny micro class 10 cards foy
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[14:51] <Tenkawa> er fly
[14:52] <Tenkawa> my ssd mind you via usb is even faster :)
[14:54] <ambodi> you mean this? http://www.amazon.com/PNY-microSDHC-Flash-Memory-P-SDU32G10-GE/dp/B005BOMU3K
[14:54] <Froolab> I'm disapointed
[14:54] <Tenkawa> Froolab: why?
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[14:55] <Tenkawa> ambodi: let me doublecheck model..
[14:55] <Tenkawa> mine might be slightly diff
[14:56] <Tenkawa> mine are 16's and not easy to tell what model
[14:57] <Tenkawa> pny dont really put which product line on the card
[14:57] <Tenkawa> all i know is they really outclass my generic and some of my branded cards
[14:58] <Tenkawa> they were decently priced like that one you posted too so it might be the same product line in 32 gb size
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[14:59] <Tenkawa> Froolab: why disappointed?
[15:00] <Froolab> I got these spiffy usb to micro usb cables with an on/off switch...... plug one end into my pc usb and the other end into the pi power port. I'm getting the under voltage box in the top right showing up whever the gpu gets bust,,,,,, startx or open firefox....
[15:01] <Tenkawa> ouch
[15:01] <Tenkawa> you got a capacitor handy?
[15:01] <Froolab> I don't know such stuff
[15:01] <Tenkawa> ahh
[15:02] <Tenkawa> does it say what gauge wire?
[15:02] <Tenkawa> must be really thin
[15:02] <Froolab> you know electronics...... so I'll let ya know my level of experience....
[15:02] <Froolab> 22awg
[15:03] <Tenkawa> pretty small
[15:03] <Tenkawa> you got a multimeterb
[15:03] <Tenkawa> er ?
[15:04] <Tenkawa> if so test the voltage and current draw and see at which point the underruns start occuring
[15:04] <Froolab> I had an airplane once that had lightes in the wings. every odd numbered bay was on constant, every even numbered bay blinked 1 second on 1 second off. last 5 bays were sequential chasers.....
[15:04] <Tenkawa> oh i remember those days
[15:04] <Froolab> It took me 5 years to build that circuit.
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[15:05] * Tenkawa built rc's for years
[15:05] <Froolab> I don't think you do, this was a 6.5 foot wing span plane flying at 1000 foor and getting ufo reports from 2 miles away.
[15:05] <Froolab> 1000 foot
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[15:06] <Tenkawa> Froolab: we had special flying zones
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[15:06] <Tenkawa> nice thing about living in the middle of nowhere
[15:06] <Froolab> 555 timer ic and a decade counter
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[15:06] <Tenkawa> oh wow nice
[15:07] <Tenkawa> Froolab: what did that thing take to get off the ground?
[15:07] <Froolab> 5 years just on reconstructing the circuit board. I had the original as an example to follow
[15:07] * Tenkawa still cringes at some of the motors and engines they used
[15:08] <Froolab> heh a cox .049 engine and an oz of 25% nitro-methane fuel.
[15:08] <Tenkawa> haahaa nice
[15:08] <Froolab> sailplane
[15:08] <Tenkawa> that was a VERY popular engine around here
[15:09] <Froolab> so once it got up there, I could fly all day and night till the batteries got weak.
[15:09] <Tenkawa> nice
[15:09] <Tenkawa> bbiaf... afk again
[15:11] <Froolab> I wonder if maybe my power supply is a little weak
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[15:45] <phasip> I know I shouldn't connect 5v input to a gpio - but - if I do, would my rpi break for sure or could I be lucky and be able to read 5v serial input for a while before it breaks?
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[15:46] <SpeedEvil> add a 10k resistor, and it will be just fine
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[15:50] <phasip> Thanks SpeedEvil! Thats easier than a gnd connected voltage drop atleast. But any experience with 5v without any resistors?
[15:51] <SpeedEvil> It will depend on many things and luck
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[15:51] <SpeedEvil> just add a resistor - any value over about 470 ohms and below 100K or so will work
[15:51] <Froolab> it will work right up to the point where it melts
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[15:58] <phasip> Oh well, I'll go for the resistor then
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[16:15] <kanzie> Am I correct to assume that the dd command when writing image to the sd card completely replaces whatever is on it since before. The preinstalled card came with several partitions and OS:es but dd should put a image file on it which can contain several partitions too right?
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[16:15] <Triffid_Hunter> kanzie: yes, as long as you dd to the disk (/dev/sdX) rather than a partition (/dev/sdXn)
[16:16] <kanzie> Triffid_Hunter: makes perfect sense, should have thought of that… thanks
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[16:18] <ShorTie> dd an image will creat 2 patition, 1 fat partition ~40 meg and the other ext4 the size of the image
[16:19] <usvi> Hello! I'm making Raspberry Pi 2 Model be a part of our production testing infrastructure. The power-up and down cycles are quite random. Is there a HOWTO on running a really minimal Linux on RAM only? I can access the memory card for booting, but I don't want to keep the card partitions mounted at all.
[16:20] <ShorTie> almost sounds like you got power issues to me
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[16:21] <ShorTie> lots of ways to make a minimal image, my favorite is my_pi_os.sh
[16:22] <ShorTie> or minimal install i should say, not all do a image .. :)~
[16:22] <usvi> alright I will check that
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[16:27] <dereks> when using vcdbg save, in what pixel format "Texture blob"s are dumped?
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[16:30] <tawr> usvi, why don't you like keeping card partitons mounted? are the power cycles random ?
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[16:40] <Tachyon`> do the pi GPIO pins have internal pullups?
[16:41] <squeakytoy> spent all day trying to get flash working
[16:41] <squeakytoy> i love this
[16:41] <squeakytoy> where is my windows 8.1 install disk nowagain
[16:41] <Tachyon`> you probably need gnash and the browser plugin
[16:42] <Tachyon`> although flash isn't going to be super wonderful even on a pi 2
[16:42] <squeakytoy> i was hoping to use it as a media center
[16:42] <squeakytoy> watch anything i want, in a browser
[16:42] <squeakytoy> but i think the pi is a too geeky for that
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[16:50] <ShorTie> at least some do Tachyon`
[16:51] <ShorTie> not sure on all
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[17:00] <ghastlymess> Good morning, complete novice to the pi AND to IRC, just looking for a way to get started on a specific project.
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[17:01] <tawr> get used to IRC, the protocol that will never die.
[17:01] <ghastlymess> I kind of like it, it's hypnotic!
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[17:01] <tawr> It's been around for decades :)
[17:02] <tawr> So what project are you thinking of?
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[17:03] <ghastlymess> So I'm trying to get my toe in, and I know nobody in the real world who uses the pi,
[17:03] <ghastlymess> I'm trying to create an exhibit which has a tablet as an interface
[17:04] <ghastlymess> and when the user presses one of 8 buttons on the tablet, it plays a short video
[17:04] <ghastlymess> on a tv.
[17:04] <ghastlymess> And I want to work, I just don't know where to START.
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[17:05] <Great-Geek> ghastlymess: Try OSMC on Pi + kore remote on tablet, if you give up on a dedicated solution
[17:06] <Technicus> Hello, does anyone here know how I can send characters to the console from keypresses on a key matrix connected to the gpio?
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[17:10] <usvi> tawr: I'll explain the situation
[17:11] <usvi> we are testing electronics at our factory in chinaM the specific product I'm assigned now needs to have it's Web user interface tested
[17:11] <usvi> I do the testing by running dnsmasq and letting it call some curls scripts after address assignment
[17:12] <usvi> we have multiple general purpose production testing booths
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[17:12] <usvi> for different products we have different test adapters or 'jigs' as we call them
[17:12] <Technicus> I am of the impression that I need to write a kernel module. I'm looking for some resources that I can reference to make sense of how to do that. Any advice or direction would help.
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[17:13] <usvi> I'm mounting the Pi on one test jig and power it up from jig cabling to test booth
[17:14] <usvi> I was thinking of using the USB interface cables to get power and just let the Pi get unpowered when the jig is taken off from the test booth
[17:15] <usvi> that's why I would like to have a method of loading at boot the files directly from memory card and then let it run in RAM
[17:15] <usvi> I'm going to CHina to finally implement this after one week
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[17:21] <SirLagz> 491 MB worth of updates to do heh
[17:22] <usvi> oh no :D
[17:23] <Armand> That it ?
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[17:23] <Armand> Should take.. not even a few minutes, right?
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[17:34] <Macuser> Welp.. to make this weather observation system (involving APRS) I need a raspberry pi.. I've only got an arduino. Anyone know the cheapest place to buy a raspberry pi?
[17:34] <Tenchworks> success, dist-upgrade done. now to auto-remove and purge old stuff before rebooting
[17:34] <Tenchworks> looks like this will be another smooth update
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[17:40] <kanzie> shit, the dd command is hanged… its been running for an hour now
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[17:40] <kanzie> 2027+0 records in
[17:40] <kanzie> 2026+0 records out
[17:40] <kanzie> 2124414976 bytes transferred in 5269.777701 secs (403132 bytes/sec)
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[17:40] <SirLagz> Armand: it wouldn't take very long if I had good internet
[17:41] <SirLagz> It's taken me 20 minutes so far.
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[17:41] <kanzie> can I verify that the write of Raspbian to the SD-card is correct
[17:41] <kanzie> ?
[17:42] <SirLagz> turns out, using a TV tuner card to see what's going on with the Pi, doesn't work too well.
[17:42] <Armand> SirLagz: Ouch!
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[17:43] <Armand> I can easily max out the 100Mb here.. I've got Gigabit to my desk. ^_^
[17:44] <SirLagz> Armand: lol...I have ~12MBit to my house
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[17:44] <SirLagz> that's 12 on a good day
[17:44] <Armand> Uuugghh
[17:44] <Armand> I have the good fortune to work for a webhosting company.. We've got 40Gb/s pipes.
[17:45] <SirLagz> nice.
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[17:45] <SirLagz> I need to rig up some Temp sensors around my little room.
[17:45] <SirLagz> I thought I had some resistors lying around. apparently not, so I gotta go out and buy some tomorrow =/
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[17:52] <usvi> kanzie: dunno but I had problems with my thinkpad internal memory card slot and ddrescue today
[17:54] <kanzie> usvi: brand new sd-card from a Raspberry Pi2 Advanced kit
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[17:54] <kanzie> should frikking be class4 at least
[17:54] <usvi> I had class 10
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[17:54] <usvi> with dd took like one hour still
[17:55] <usvi> oh well I guess I should go back to work to experiment and read
[17:55] <SirLagz> usvi: took one hour to do what ?
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[17:57] <Great-Geek> usvi: Class 10 doesn't matter if the reader is old and slow
[17:58] <Tenchworks> welp looks like rebooting has resulted in a failure somewhere, stuck at the color screen
[17:58] <kanzie> I use the embedded reader in the macbook pro so it should be good enough
[17:58] <kanzie> Ill let it run for two hours now but seriously, I thought SD was faster than this
[17:58] <SirLagz> kanzie: what are you doing ?
[17:58] <Great-Geek> kanzie: You probably have bigger problems than SD card speed...
[17:59] <kanzie> Great-Geek: how so? Trying to be funny or…?
[17:59] <kanzie> SirLagz: Installing Raspbian on a SD-card
[17:59] <SirLagz> kanzie: it shouldn't take 2 hours...
[17:59] <Great-Geek> kanzie: kill DD
[17:59] <kanzie> SirLagz: I bought a preinstalled SD-card with my Pi2 but a few hours of working suddenly I had 100% full disk on it and it was BS
[17:59] <SirLagz> kanzie: what command are you running ?
[18:00] <kanzie> SirLagz: dd…
[18:00] <kanzie> like normal…
[18:00] <SirLagz> kanzie: yes...that didn't answer my question of what command you were running
[18:00] <kanzie> the command is dd, do you want to see my params to the command?
[18:00] <SirLagz> yes
[18:00] <kanzie> pv -tpreb /dev/disk1 | dd bs=1m if=image.img of=/dev/disk1
[18:00] <Great-Geek> kanzie: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/<your sdcard> bs=1M count=100
[18:00] <kanzie> piping it with pv to see progress but that didnt work so well
[18:00] <usvi> SirLagz: yes it did
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[18:01] <SirLagz> kanzie: send dd a sighup if you want to see progress.
[18:01] <Tenchworks> I don't know if the rasbian/noobs images still do this but the old Debian images that where made for the pi pre-rasbian has a lot of info scrolling by before the user gets to the login prompt, is that info logged anywhere?
[18:02] <SirLagz> Tenchworks: should be under dmesg
[18:02] <SirLagz> Tenchworks: and/or syslog
[18:02] <Technicus> Here is an example of what I am trying to do: < https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECM-bPYuSvY >, except I have a 10x6 matrix of buttons. How does this driver work?
[18:02] <Tenchworks> SirLagz, ok I'll snoop around in there then thanks
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[18:04] <SirLagz> kanzie: I'm surprised using 1m for bs worked...
[18:04] <kanzie> SirLagz: ah ctrl+t gives me info similar to a sighup
[18:04] <kanzie> SirLagz: bs?
[18:04] <kanzie> load: 2.40 cmd: dd 30859 uninterruptible 0.00u 2.60s
[18:04] <kanzie> 227+0 records in
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[18:04] <kanzie> 236978176 bytes transferred in 486.802834 secs (486805 bytes/sec)
[18:04] <SirLagz> kanzie: your dd command, you had bs=1m
[18:04] <kanzie> its just extremely slow it seems
[18:04] <kanzie> why wouldnt it work_
[18:05] <SirLagz> 1M means 1 Megabyte blocks...no idea what dd would do with 1m
[18:05] <kanzie> in GNU systems 1M is 1 Megabyte, on FresBSD-based dito it is spelled 1m
[18:05] <kanzie> I know its weird, threw me off at first too
[18:05] <SirLagz> kanzie: perhaps your dd discarded 1m and is doing the copy in 512B blocks...in which case it would take a *long* time
[18:06] <SirLagz> kanzie: ahh...you're on BSD systme ?
[18:06] <SirLagz> system*
[18:06] <kanzie> OSX
[18:06] <SirLagz> ah k
[18:06] <kanzie> Ill just let it run its due course… should take about 3.5 hours
[18:06] * SirLagz wonders...
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[18:08] <SirLagz> 1M and 1m works for me on my FreeBSD based system
[18:08] <SirLagz> interesting
[18:08] <SirLagz> learn something new every day
[18:08] <Zunz> Anyone here ever did something like a spectrum analyser for audio?
[18:08] <SirLagz> kanzie: no idea why yours is so slow then. You could always try a USb card reader and see if it improves any, at least then you'll know if it's your Mac's reader or the SD card.
[18:09] * ShorTie thinkz try M instead of m, don't think dd knows what m is
[18:11] <kanzie> Read up ShorTie… we have just finished discussing the 1M vs. 1m
[18:11] <kanzie> :-)
[18:12] <kanzie> if anything I should switch it to 16M
[18:12] <ShorTie> most use 4M any ways i believe
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[18:13] <SirLagz> anyone else tried using a TV Tuner card to take the Composite in from the Pi ?
[18:13] <SirLagz> Ideally I'd like to make it a bit clearer =/
[18:14] <usvi> Great-Geek: yeah the reader looked quite old and slow
[18:15] * SirLagz wonders what the highest resolution the Composite port will put out
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[18:16] <lemonzest> if its SDTV should be around 720x576
[18:17] <lemonzest> or 640x480 ntsc
[18:17] <Tenchworks> :( looks like audio got fubar'd during the upgrade
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[18:19] <redstonecraftpl> Hi guys
[18:19] <redstonecraftpl> I still need a solve to mine problem
[18:19] <SirLagz> lemonzest: queston is...will my TV tuner card handle that haha
[18:19] <redstonecraftpl> i need an interface with what i could start some emulators, etc. This must support mouse
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[18:25] <Technicus> How can I send output to TTY from a background process?
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[18:28] <SirLagz> damn, my 491 MB update failed
[18:28] <ShorTie> bummer
[18:29] * SirLagz yawns
[18:29] <SirLagz> 12:30 AM...I should probably go to sleep =/
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[18:30] <SirLagz> oops...I plugged in this HDMI thing and it killed my Pi halfway through an update
[18:31] <SirLagz> I guess whatever this is, either it's broken, or the Pi can't power it
[18:31] <ShorTie> double oops
[18:31] <SirLagz> I have this HDMI adapter...it is a HDMI male, with a VGA female and Ethernet jack. I have no idea what this is for though, has no markings, branding, anything
[18:32] <SirLagz> The only thing I do know about it is that it kills Pis
[18:32] <ShorTie> sounds like for the trash can .. :/~
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[18:33] <SirLagz> I'm tempted to try and plug it into a PC or something...but at the same time a bit worred about doing that lo
[18:33] <SirLagz> lol
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[18:34] <SirLagz> I'll find something to plug it into sometime
[18:35] * ozzzy uses an hdmi->vga adapter all the time
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[18:36] <SirLagz> ozzzy: a powered one
[18:36] <SirLagz> ?
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[18:37] <ozzzy> just plugs into the pi and lets me plug in a vga monitor
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[18:37] <SirLagz> ozzzy: ah k
[18:38] <SirLagz> ozzzy: maybe my one just takes up a lot of power lol
[18:38] <ozzzy> I think I paid $5 for it from China.Inc
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[18:39] <ozzzy> shouldn't... it's just one chip and the 5v comes from the hdmi port
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[18:39] <Technicus> How does this code work: < https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit-Retrogame/blob/master/retrogame.c >?
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[18:41] <_X_C_V_B_> I'm trying to get sound working on the rpi b+
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[18:41] <_X_C_V_B_> I'm trying to use espeak
[18:42] <_X_C_V_B_> I get an error that the jack server isn't running
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[18:42] <SirLagz> ozzzy: maybe it's just buggered lol
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[18:44] <ozzzy> there's always that =)
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[18:50] <brasizza> sup guys!
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[18:52] * nerdboy stuck on broken bleeding-edge kernel
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[18:53] * SirLagz is trying to update his Pi that hasn't been booted up in months
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[19:00] <_X_C_V_B_> nevermind I got it working
[19:01] <brasizza> lol
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[19:03] <Scunizi> Hi all. Just reimaged rasbian and set a static ip. For some reason I can ssh connect to rp2 on 2 different IP addresses. One is the static I set and the other is a DHCP address. Here's my /etc/network/interfaces file. Any Ideas why and how to stop it? http://paste.debian.net/183423/
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[19:09] <TheLostAdmin> Scunizi, raspbian doesn't check for a static IP addresses when it starts the dhcp client. You end up with both.
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[19:10] <TheLostAdmin> If you shut off the dhcp client, you will also need to mess around with name resolution settings because that is also run separately and without proper checks. So, it will clobber your resolv.conf on reboot.
[19:10] <Scunizi> TheLostAdmin: doesn't the interfaces file eliminate dhcp or is that handled someplace else?
[19:10] <brasizza> what did you know about the Digital to analogic components? is it 100% usuable ?
[19:11] <TheLostAdmin> it doesn't. Not the way raspbian is setup anyway.
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[19:12] <Scunizi> TheLostAdmin: where is the dhcp setup
[19:12] <brasizza> /etc/init.d ?
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[19:13] <TheLostAdmin> Somewhere in the init subsystem. I think it's called dhcpcd (the extra c for client)
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[19:14] <TheLostAdmin> the update-rc.d command is used to enable/disable daemons that get started by init.
[19:15] <TheLostAdmin> I can't be of much more help. i had the same problem you are having, Scunizi. I ended up leaving dhcpc enabled and configured my dhcp server to hand out the same IP all the time based on the MAC addresses of my Pis
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[19:16] <Scunizi> TheLostAdmin: interesting.. I suppose I could do that as well. But it brings up an interesting point of the usefullness of the interfaces file for network configuration when something else is doing it also. That may be why I can't ssh in using pi@raspi2 my host address..
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[19:17] <Scunizi> TheLostAdmin: did you also have issues with the pi periodically freezing and coming back alive while ssh'd in?
[19:17] <TheLostAdmin> Scunizi, I'm not a big fan of Debian. It does not follow the norms of UNIX and it is badly documented when it's documented at all.
[19:18] <TheLostAdmin> Scunizi, nope. Both of my Pis (a B and a 2) run very reliably. I've overclocked both marginally (800Mhz and 1Ghz) without issues.
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[19:18] <Scunizi> TheLostAdmin: I haven't gone that far yet. Basically trying to get a asterisk/fax server setup
[19:19] <TheLostAdmin> The only problem I've had is when I have a dirty shutdown and the SD card gets corrupted. So far rebooting with a forced FSCK (shutdown -rF now) worked on that.
[19:20] <TheLostAdmin> Scunizi, you may not need to overclock. If you do ... raspi-config has a menu for it. By far the safest and easiest way since it handles all the things that need to be adjusted when overclocking and it can be used to return to defaults.
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[19:22] <Scunizi> TheLostAdmin: I'll keep that in mind. Just found an interesting wiki post on Debian concerning multiple IP's on one interface. However it doesn't solve this issue since DHCP is being handled someplace else. https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Multiple_IP_addresses_on_One_Interface
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[19:23] <Scunizi> TheLostAdmin: I'm going to eliminate the auto eth0 line in interfaces and see if that makes a difference.
[19:24] <TheLostAdmin> If it does, let me know. Be sure to double check name resolution. I was having problems with that too.
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[19:26] <usvi> "task blkid:5506 blocked for more than 120 seconds." when I'm using ddrescue to dd new image, hehe
[19:26] <Scunizi> TheLostAdmin: didn't do anything :(
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[19:27] <Scunizi> TheLostAdmin: strange that ifconfig will only show one eth0 connection and address
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[19:28] <autostatic> Scunizi: did you reboot after changing your /etc/network/interfaces file?
[19:28] <Scunizi> yes
[19:29] <autostatic> But still two IP's?
[19:29] <Scunizi> autostatic: yes. one static and one dhcp
[19:30] <Scunizi> autostatic: however logging in via the dhcp address my system reports "The authenticity of host <bla bla> can't be established
[19:31] <autostatic> Where do you see those two IP's? ifconfig? ip addr?
[19:32] <Encapsulation> anyone here used pir sensor wit their pi?
[19:32] <autostatic> Scunizi: Did you try dhclient -r ?
[19:33] <Scunizi> autostatic: just did and it report nothing..
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[19:37] <Scunizi> autostatic: however route -n reporting is weird.. http://paste.debian.net/183437/
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[19:40] <CanDoo> afternoon
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[19:41] <Scunizi> autostatic: logging into the dhcp address there is no route to the internet.. just on the LAN.
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[19:46] <Scunizi> autostatic: I take that back.. i just didn't let ping run long enough. Ping times are twice what they are on my desktop
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[19:52] <Scunizi> 60% packet loss on dhcp vs. 42% loss on static and 0% loss on desktop.. humm.. another mystery to solve.
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[19:52] <autostatic> But do you still have two IP's?
[19:53] <Scunizi> yep
[19:53] <autostatic> And which application reports that?
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[19:53] <autostatic> route -n doesn't show two IP's
[19:53] <Scunizi> cli on a linux box
[19:53] <Scunizi> nope.. route -n only shows one.. weird
[19:53] <autostatic> Which application? ip addr, ifconfig?
[19:53] <autostatic> And what are the IP's?
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[19:54] <Scunizi> which app to find the ip's?
[19:54] <autostatic> Yes
[19:54] <autostatic> How do you know the RPi has two IP's?
[19:55] <Scunizi> ah.. the back end of the router shows a dhcp wired address with a hostname of raspi2 (what I set) and the static I set doesn't show but is accessible from desktop using ssh
[19:55] <pksato> ips on that interface?
[19:55] <Scunizi> eth0 .. 2 addresses.
[19:56] <pksato> both ipv4?
[19:56] <CanDoo> not posable unless you aliased a second IP to the same interface
[19:56] <autostatic> There's your solution
[19:56] <Scunizi> pksato: yes
[19:56] <autostatic> Your router allocates a DHCP address to your RPi
[19:57] <pksato> dhcp normaly overwrite any other ips/
[19:57] <Scunizi> why would the router do that if the device doesn't request a dhcp?
[19:57] <autostatic> Maybe it's cached?
[19:57] <pksato> if set a static no interfaces and start a dhcp client, this replace static ip.
[19:58] <Scunizi> CanDoo: all I did was change the interfaces file to reflect a static setup and commented out all wlan references and the "auto" lines for eth0.. Still get 2 ip's
[19:58] <pksato> if have a local access, ifdown eth0; ifup eth0
[19:58] <pksato> even on remote.
[19:58] <autostatic> But apparently your RPi itself doesn't hae two IP's
[19:58] <autostatic> So the DHCP IP has to come from somewhere
[19:58] <Scunizi> exactly
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[20:00] <Scunizi> if the Pi is only setup in /etc/network/interfaces for static eth0 then the router is forcing an additional address via dhcp. That would be weird and out of character wouldn't it?
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[20:03] <supersmilers> I tried another HDTV and I got it to output correctly on the 2010-2011 Toshiba one. It didn't output correctly on 2012 Sharp Aquos.
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[20:04] <supersmilers> it outputs in native 1080p on the toshiba HDTV.
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[20:08] <autostatic> Scunizi: weird issue, that's for sure
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[20:08] <supersmilers> Anything new about the RPi since I wasn't on here?
[20:09] <Scunizi> and it's on a fresh install. my google-fu isn't finding answers. I must be the anomolly which would be an anomolly if I wasn't :/
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[20:10] <fred1807> Hello Guys. I am frying my brains trying to find out the best way to use a Raspberry in "kioski" mode, showing a playlist of videos, in loop mode, witohut glitches, without black screens... Do you think I may go for a html5 solution? (Using Chromium?) Or it will be too much for the Pi B+ memory?
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[20:15] <Tenchworks> odd, I did the dist-upgrade from debian 7>8 and looks like it installed pulseaudio, I had (still there) alsa before
[20:15] <Tenchworks> noticing audio is kinda low quality (popping) now :(
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[20:16] <Tenchworks> did the RPi's have issues with pulse audio before? I think I had read somewhere of people removing it but that was a while ago
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[20:31] <fred1807> does raspberry pi plays 720p with omx player without problems? How is the mem and cpu usage?
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[20:44] <Jusii> it can even play 3xfullhd videos simultaneously
[20:45] <Jusii> scaled down on the fly each to its own window
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[21:10] <fred1807> Jusii: Nice... Can it loop a playlist without black screens ?
[21:10] <fred1807> seamsly loop
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[21:12] <Jusii> i think no, you'd need to transcode or something on the fly
[21:13] <Jusii> atleast i didn't manage to do that, there will be small gap
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[21:15] <Jusii> see http://w.xuv.be/projects/raspi_video_loop
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[21:20] <fred1807> thx
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[21:47] <dereks> this video loop sucks
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[21:47] <dereks> I'm using hello_video videocore example
[21:47] <dereks> with fseek(0)
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[22:04] <kevireilly> Hey there. I commonly have a problem with wpa_supplicant where a connection is not established on boot. While pinging or attempting SSH, it seems to be a cycle of mostly “host is down” with some sprinkles of “operation timed out” and a pending request as if it is about to work
[22:05] <kevireilly> Any ideas what it might be? It seems to have happened to every pi i’ve had which also has always connected to the same wireless repeater, so I’m guessing this might be part of the problem
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[22:08] <kevireilly> usually eventually works after a couple reboots, so that kind of makes it seems like it isn’t the router, but just curious if this is a common problem and if there are any common solutions
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[22:27] <Scunizi> kevireilly: open /etc/network/interfaces and put a # in front of the wpa_supplicant line. Should be in two sections both dealing with wireless. If you're using a wireless connection I don't know if that will effect it.
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[22:39] <Captain_Crow> are there any cases for the pi that have a battery and screen built in?
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[22:54] <kevireilly> Scunizi: It seems I’ve only got one section for wireless http://pastie.org/10207015 — you’re referring to the wpa-roam line yeah?
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[23:07] <kanzie> Am I supposed to be able to watch .mkv videos using Kodi on my fresh Raspbian OS?
[23:07] <kanzie> I get the thumb from the movie and all but if I try to play it nothing happens
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[23:09] <kanzie> ls
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[23:25] <dereks> videocore hackers, anyone?
[23:26] <Scunizi> kevireilly: for some reason I can't get to the pastie link. not your fault. my machine is acting wonky right now resolving hosts. you can always comment the line out, test and then uncomment if it doesn't work correctly.
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[23:32] <pmumble> kevireilly: what does your wpa_supplicant.conf file look like?
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[23:33] <pmumble> /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf that is
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[23:37] <pmumble> is it just default with a network={ key_mgmt=NONE }?
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[23:52] <kanzie> In Kodi I have sound but no image when playing MKV, what could be wrong?
[23:54] <[Saint]> This happens for all MKV files?
[23:55] <kanzie> so far all I have tried
[23:55] <kanzie> like three of them
[23:56] <kanzie> it starts the visualiser for music in the background, the plate of squares that is spinning
[23:56] <kanzie> [Saint]: ^^
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[23:57] <[Saint]> Hmmmm. I was just checking it wasn't a particular file (weird encoding or broken headers).
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