#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2015-05-27

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[0:00] <tawr> that would be a ridiculous amount of work for little payoff, sebaaa
[0:00] <sebaaa> how should I make one then?
[0:00] <tawr> but there are people that custom make keyboards for gaming all the time. it's very expensive and TONS of work
[0:00] <tawr> like several hudnred dollars worth of parts
[0:00] <sebaaa> the goal is to make a small keyboard for a graphing calculator
[0:01] <tawr> it's really not worth it unless you want to shave a few microseconds off your typing. haha
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[0:01] <tawr> it would probably be better to buy a broken or old graphing calculator and just use that...
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[0:01] <Encapsulation> hahahahahahahah
[0:02] <Encapsulation> omfg
[0:03] <Encapsulation> be on the lookout for closiong radio shacks near you ppl
[0:03] <Encapsulation> I can't stress this enough
[0:03] <Encapsulation> =D
[0:03] <niston> hey there
[0:03] <Encapsulation> hey niston
[0:03] <niston> how goes
[0:03] <Encapsulation> I gotta go back and pick stuff up couldnt fit it all!
[0:03] <niston> nice one :D
[0:04] <Encapsulation> I just bought the entire contents of all the parts draweers for 50 bux
[0:04] <Encapsulation> LOL
[0:04] <Encapsulation> ovewr $5000 off @_@
[0:04] <niston> pennies on the dollar!
[0:04] <Encapsulation> lol yeah
[0:04] <Encapsulation> insane
[0:04] <Encapsulation> still wiating on the i2c iso board though! maybe in mail today
[0:04] <niston> right
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[0:05] <tawr> Encapsulation,
[0:05] <Encapsulation> I'm also having some false triggers on a pir even after modding it for 3v but thats a whole other issue, ill bbl gotta pick this stuff up
[0:05] <tawr> haha, glad you listened
[0:05] <Encapsulation> haha yeah
[0:05] <Encapsulation> =D
[0:05] <tawr> :D
[0:05] <tawr> my receipts inspired you
[0:05] <Encapsulation> yes
[0:05] <tawr> btw, pick up all the leds also
[0:05] <Encapsulation> I've got 100 feet of them
[0:05] <Encapsulation> I got it all
[0:05] <tawr> i've made a few UV flashlights
[0:05] <tawr> they're fun!
[0:05] <Encapsulation> I'll have to give thta a shot!
[0:05] <tawr> buy cheapie 5 and 9 led flashlights for 5 bucks
[0:05] <tawr> then swap the leds for the uv ones
[0:05] <Encapsulation> good idea
[0:06] <tawr> http://i.imgur.com/XkWq3zPl.jpg
[0:06] <tawr> one of the ones i did, 9-led, bright as hell. it hurts to look at
[0:06] <Encapsulation> I've undoubtedly got some uv leds in here I'll find eventually
[0:06] <tawr> haha, go get the rest bud!
[0:06] <Encapsulation> ok back in a few trhey are holding my santa claus bags
[0:06] <tawr> this is what the Vikings felt like
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[0:06] <Encapsulation> gonna go get it all=D
[0:06] <Encapsulation> it took 4 and a half hours
[0:06] <Encapsulation> to scan it all
[0:06] <tawr> Go and PILLAGE, my son..
[0:06] <Encapsulation> with 3 of us working
[0:06] <Encapsulation> lmao
[0:07] <Encapsulation> back later
[0:07] <tawr> gl!
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[0:23] <ali1234> has anyone made some scripts that will let me put the pi into wifi AP mode based on a gpio pin state?
[0:24] <ali1234> or perhaps have it switch automatically if no known APs are in range?
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[0:36] <tytan> ali1234 nope, sorry
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[0:44] <tawr> ali1234, should be easy to do
[0:44] <ali1234> i need it working in the next two hours :)
[0:44] <ali1234> i'll have to come up with something else i guess
[0:44] <ali1234> might implement it at a later date
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[0:47] <jaggza> Help :/ I had my pi hooked up to an 8 channel relay board wrong, so when my pi reset, all channels turned on
[0:48] <jaggza> Now the gpio seems to only light the relay board's channel led's dimly
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[0:50] <jaggza> If I power the board directly from the first 5v pin, and connect the tp2 (or 1? ... Whichever is 0v) it triggers the relay fine (with a bright led)
[0:50] <jaggza> When lit dim, I still hear the relays click, but the sprinklers don't go on..
[0:51] <jaggza> Is there something I can replace on the pi board to fix whatever I broke?
[0:52] <tawr> hi jaggza
[0:52] <tawr> :)
[0:52] <tawr> what relay board?
[0:52] <jaggza> The relays draw up to .20a per channel
[0:52] <jaggza> Sainsmart 8 channel relay board
[0:53] <tawr> transistors, diodes, protection built into it?
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[0:53] <tawr> oh, you had it hooked wrong just saw
[0:53] <jaggza> Optoidilated, yeah.. board seems fine
[0:53] <tawr> find out what you did wrong, only way to figure out what went bad
[0:53] <jaggza> Yeah.. gonna go buy some npn2222's right now
[0:54] <jaggza> Maybe the apparently weak gpio can trigger those. Should have negated the logic to begin with :/
[0:55] <jaggza> I think it's from pulling .20A x 8 from the first 8 gpio pins simultaneously.
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[0:55] <jaggza> Err, wait.. from 5v
[0:56] <jaggza> Not sure why the 5v pin seems fine, but gpio pins have a weak signal or something
[0:56] <jaggza> Those trigger the relay when they're 0v actually
[0:57] <tawr> wait
[0:57] <jaggza> Relay triggers at low
[0:57] <tawr> take a break
[0:57] <tawr> are the relays and board being powered by the rpi
[0:57] <tawr> or an external voltage (hopefully around 12-24v)
[0:57] * jaggza breaths deeply and counts to 8
[0:58] <jaggza> Relays switch externally powered 24vac
[0:58] <tawr> so why do you think the boards pulled 1.6A from the pi's gpio
[0:58] <tawr> whhich is impossible
[0:59] <jaggza> Gonna reconnect .. losing WiFi
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[1:21] <Tachyon`> hi, anyone know how it'd be possibel to encode video at 1080p/4k on a PC in realtime (I understand the pi can do it at 1080p 30fps with my camera module?)
[1:21] <Tachyon`> hardware can be bought, I'm just no expert when it comes to video
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[1:28] <ali1234> how do i make raspberry pi connect to an ad-hoc network with wpa_supplicant?
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[1:36] <pmumble> see the examples in /usr/share/doc/wpa_supplicant/examples
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[1:38] <pmumble> it's really just a very basic entry in wpa_supplicant.conf, with an attribute of id_str="adhoc" or whatever you'd like, and then in /etc/network/interfaces you set up an interface with that name
[1:38] <pmumble> such as iface adhoc inet dhcp
[1:39] <ali1234> what?
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[1:39] <ali1234> there are no ad-hoc examples
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[1:41] <Tenkawa> whats happening all?
[1:41] <pmumble> oh, sorry. maybe im wrong on that, then. i'll look around
[1:42] <ali1234> the problem is that wpa_supplicant simply refuses to connect
[1:42] <ali1234> it sees the network
[1:42] <Tenkawa> hmm
[1:42] <Tenkawa> ali1234: do you get an error?
[1:43] <ali1234> no
[1:43] <ali1234> only if i run wpa_supplicant in debug mode
[1:43] <Tenkawa> are you setting both ssid and key?
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[1:43] <CanDoo> so i have a reaspberry pi GPIO expantion board
[1:44] <Tenkawa> you might need to set scan_ssid too
[1:44] <CanDoo> and i'm trying to figure out how to actuate the addition pins connected to 74HCT595's on the board
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[1:45] <Tenkawa> ali1234: i cant speak for adhoc though.. only infra
[1:45] <ali1234> infra works fine
[1:47] <ozzzy> I knew adhoc once... he was rather spontaneous
[1:49] <pmumble> ali did you try setting ap_scan=2 and mode=1
[1:49] <pmumble> ap_scan2 as a global setting and mode=1 inside the network definition
[1:50] <pmumble> *ap_scan=2
[1:51] <ali1234> trying...
[1:52] <ali1234> okay now it is associated but there is no network connection
[1:53] <ali1234> on tcpdump i can see the pi sending EAPOL key (3) v2, len 95
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[2:06] <Playername> ahoy
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[2:10] <Tenkawa> greetings
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[2:11] <pmumble> hai
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[2:14] <Froolap> wahhhhh
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[2:14] <Tenkawa> Froolap: that doesnt sound good
[2:15] <Froolap> not real happy. can't get stinkin ftpd werkin.
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[2:15] <Tenkawa> standard ftpd or specific one?
[2:16] <pmumble> hey Froolap. so i tried setting up vsftpd
[2:16] <pmumble> on pidora
[2:16] <Froolap> vsftpd pureftpd...... pick one
[2:16] <pmumble> it works for me
[2:16] <Tenkawa> what do they do wrong?
[2:16] <pmumble> meaning, i can log in as a user and write to my home dir
[2:16] <Froolap> i would love to know what you did different.I'm kind of confused on a couple of things....
[2:17] <pmumble> sure. well first i tried and it didn't work, so i searched all over the inet and flipped a million settings.
[2:17] <Froolap> I can get it running. wanted local users to connect to /var/ftp like annon do.... works
[2:18] <pmumble> then i yum removed it, reinstalled it, and tried again with the default settings, and connected with just bare ftp on the cmd line, and it worked out of the box... >.>
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[2:18] <Froolap> but local_users can't upload, annonymous can't upload....
[2:18] <pmumble> my first client was bad
[2:18] <Tenkawa> ahh permissions
[2:18] <pmumble> so the answer is nothing, it worked with the default config on pidora
[2:18] * Tenkawa just uses scp and sftp
[2:19] <Froolap> if I turn on annon_write then everybody can write.
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[2:20] <Froolap> I've created about 20 directories in /var/ftp/pub with about every combination of owner = root or ftp and group = root or ftp and chmod of 777 666 555 and every combination. no go
[2:20] <Tenkawa> uggh i hate that i have one bad performing microsd card out of a batch
[2:21] <Tenkawa> 3 work great... 1 is junk
[2:21] <Froolap> I kind of don't know what they mean by create an unprifileged user for ftp to run as..... default is nobody but then the man says don't use nobody......
[2:21] <pmumble> well, i don't have anon_write on and my regular user can write
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[2:22] <Froolap> and no explanation on how to create such an unpriveliged user....
[2:22] <pmumble> let me double check
[2:22] <Froolap> yeah but they write to their home directory and can cd to / and then... oh that's just bad
[2:23] <Tenkawa> you could create them a chroot environ for ftp
[2:23] <Tenkawa> most ftp servers support that nowadays i think
[2:23] <Tenkawa> dont quote me though
[2:23] <Froolap> I would rather that everybody logs in to /var/ftp and then only local users can write
[2:23] <pmumble> ok so you want a chroot jail for local users?
[2:24] <Froolap> well, uh, I dunno, the config file says that chroot is a security risk...... probably because chroot sends them to their home dir and they can cd to /
[2:25] <Froolap> there's another option, not chroot that lets local users login to /var/ftp
[2:25] <Tenkawa> huh???
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[2:25] <Tenkawa> chroot is there to prevent them from leaving ~
[2:26] <Tenkawa> unless i'm way out of date
[2:26] <pmumble> thats what it says in the man page, Tenkawa. just reading now
[2:26] <pmumble> going to try
[2:26] <Tenkawa> wow times have changed
[2:27] <pmumble> no i meant you are correct
[2:27] <Tenkawa> ahhh ok
[2:27] <pmumble> sorry
[2:27] <Tenkawa> np
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[2:30] <Froolap> yeah, but then the config file warns against the chroot..... and really, I don't want the ftp server to access anything except /var/ftp...... if the local users need something they can upload there and move it and delete it when done.
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[2:30] <Tenkawa> apt-get install distcc distcc-pump
[2:30] <pmumble> yeah froo you might be working against the grain here. you might need to make a shared account instead
[2:30] <pmumble> i ran into the wall you did
[2:31] <Froolap> shared account?
[2:31] <pmumble> an account whos home dir is the dir you want
[2:31] <pmumble> i dont know, i haven't done this, but thats what i'm getting from these docs
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[2:32] <Froolap> oh, so delete the ftp user (dunno if that was created by yum install vsftpd) and then recreate ftp with a home dir and /sbin/false as the login shell?
[2:32] <Tenkawa> oopa sorry
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[2:33] <Tenkawa> darn double hit
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[2:34] <pmumble> maybe, i've not done this. basically what you want is a password protected shared area right?
[2:34] <Tenkawa> gotta run.. cheers all
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[2:41] <Froolap> what I want is to have my users upload to /var/ftp/uploads..... nobody can see uploads till admin clears them. annon can't upload....... user can then log in locally and move the file from /var/ftp/uploads to theur home dir, or.... move the file into /var/ftp/pub to share with all.
[2:42] <Froolap> annon can or can't have access to uploads as long as uploads aren't shown until someone does a chown on the file
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[2:43] <Froolap> either way annon should never have write access
[2:44] <Froolap> I don't often have need to copy files from one of my machines to another, so far a thumb drive has filled that need, but it would be nice to have an ftp and stop wearing out my usb ports
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[2:47] <HotCoder> hey quick question. tell me some cool idea to use my raspberry pi for
[2:47] <HotCoder> i have it all set up
[2:47] <HotCoder> but i feel like i have nothing to do with it
[2:47] <HotCoder> any ideas?
[2:48] <Froolap> ftp server
[2:48] <Froolap> lol
[2:48] <pmumble> haha
[2:48] <Froolap> samba
[2:49] <HotCoder> wats funny
[2:49] <Froolap> you missed my ranting and troubles in setting up ftpd lol
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[2:49] <pmumble> i'll be thinking about it, froolap. its a nice challenge, and im trying to learn admin stuff. will speak up if i come up with anything. im trying to figure out this whole vsftpd user chroot jail thing. i enabled it but it doesnt like that the user has write permission. the docs say it jails you in a dir below your home dir, but i dont see where to set what dir that would be
[2:49] <Froolap> we weren't laughing at you.....
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[2:50] <methuzla> Froolap sorry if it's been asked, but why not use scp?
[2:50] <HotCoder> what should i try to make
[2:50] <HotCoder> with my rasp pi?
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[2:51] <Froolap> uh lots of reasons, mix of windows and linux machines, I don't understald it, creating ssl certs confuses the bejresus out of me.....
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[2:52] * pmumble uses scp/sftp for this sort of thing as well.
[2:52] <Froolap> HotCoder: a radio...... have it tune into fm web broadcasts
[2:52] <HotCoder> something more complicated?
[2:52] <HotCoder> that will use the ram more
[2:52] <HotCoder> i want to use it to its full power
[2:53] <methuzla> HotCoder topic it too broad, what are your interest? blinky LEDs? turning motors? taking over the world with a botnet?
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[2:53] <Froolap> my main goal in setting up ftpd is so that I can on occasion share rpi2b fedora images...... and on occasion have a spot to migrate files across my net......
[2:53] <HotCoder> methuzla, do you know what hola is?
[2:53] <HotCoder> hola the vpn thing?
[2:53] <Froolap> HotCoder: see if you can install oracle. lol
[2:54] <methuzla> HotCoder no
[2:54] <HotCoder> ok
[2:54] <Froolap> HotCoder: hola how are you today?
[2:55] <HotCoder> ok
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[2:58] <brucewhealtonjr> Hello all... I had a question or two. I have put NOOBS on my microSD card...
[2:58] <brucewhealtonjr> There is an option to Expand File System
[2:59] <brucewhealtonjr> Does this mean that I cannot install another OS on the sd card if I do that?
[3:00] <brucewhealtonjr> I did see some examples where one might want to install more than one OS and also have a shared directory
[3:01] <brucewhealtonjr> I'm not sure how easy it is to install two OS on the same card... or if it is even desirable.
[3:01] <Froolap> i dunno, I never used noobs
[3:01] <pmumble> i think you can with noobs, but i don't know the details of how it sizes partitions
[3:01] <Froolap> I think I would be inclined to make an extra sd card unless you plan on switching os a lot and wearing out the slot.
[3:01] <brucewhealtonjr> Interesting... I thought that was the most popular way to install various OS on a RaspberryPI
[3:02] <pmumble> i can tell you that you can manually resize the partition to an arbitrary size and expand the fs yourself, if you don't want touse the whole card. i did that in order to make a /home partition
[3:02] <brucewhealtonjr> ok, that seems fine then
[3:02] <brucewhealtonjr> ok
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[3:02] <pmumble> to do so you fire up fdisk, delete the partition, and recreate it using the same start sector, but with a new end sector
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[3:03] <pmumble> then you expand the fs using resize2fs or whatever
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[3:04] <ShorTie> it's a little more tricky with noobs
[3:04] <brucewhealtonjr> Just out of curiosity, I have Raspberry Pi 2, what kind of things can run on a Raspberry PI 2?
[3:04] <brucewhealtonjr> I mean, I did actually see that one could run MongoDB on it.
[3:04] <pmumble> yeah granted that was only with the raspbian image. noobs creates all sorts of partitions if i remember right
[3:05] <brucewhealtonjr> I have a 128GB thumbnail drive... can I tell it to use that for installing some applications?
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[3:05] <ShorTie> ya, everything is in a extended partition
[3:06] <brucewhealtonjr> I just realized a possible mistake... I put Fat32 as the file system, even though I was looking to install Linux
[3:07] <ShorTie> the boot partition is fat
[3:07] <ShorTie> the rest is ext4
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[3:07] <brucewhealtonjr> I should use the sdformat tool and format it as ext4, right?
[3:08] <brucewhealtonjr> I used the Windows default format command
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[3:11] <ozzzy> I just leave them whatever the image specifies
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[3:12] <brucewhealtonjr> ok, as I find that once a sd card is formatted in one format, it keeps that format even after reformatting the drive
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[3:16] <ShorTie> na
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[3:19] <Froolap> now you have a really big boot partition though. lol
[3:21] <Froolap> bruce there's a difference between formatting and repartitioning.....
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[3:29] <ShorTie> either/both is reversible
[3:34] <kllrd> can anyone briefly explain the x10 protocol to me?
[3:35] <NedScott> once upon a time, someone created a way to turn lights on and off, and it was a really long time ago. Since then much better home automation options have popped up.
[3:36] <NedScott> wow, developed in 1975
[3:37] <ali1234> remember when theinternet was full of X10 ads on every page?
[3:37] <NedScott> haha, yes
[3:37] <kllrd> came across it looking at various home automation projects. have a reccomendation for something better?
[3:37] <NedScott> I have a box full of the modules and such. I should figure out something to do with them
[3:37] <NedScott> it can depend on what you need
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[3:37] <NedScott> I think newer modules can send status, but for a long time the modules were dumb and could miss an on or off signal
[3:38] <NedScott> it was one way control, so the controller didn't know if the bulbs or whatever were actually on or off
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[3:38] <kllrd> i see, well something with feedback would be good
[3:39] <kllrd> i just wanna start with something basic like a few outlets. i know i can do that easily with GPIO and a relay board, but wireless would be nice
[3:39] <NedScott> something like zigbee/z-wave
[3:40] <NedScott> that would give you something wireless, and you can communicate with an XBee module with a Pi
[3:40] <NedScott> I haven't done it myself, but I've read a little bit about it
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[3:40] <kllrd> ill check it out, thx
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[3:53] <CanDoo> wow
[3:54] <CanDoo> i just can't get this 74HCT595 to actuate grr
[3:54] <Froolap> huh did you sneeze?
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[4:05] <Froolap> I have copied the sd-card /boot over to usb drive and I copied the sd-card ext4 / over to usb drive and I altered my commandline.txt to mount /dev/sda1 as /, so after I unmount /boot, why can't I eject /dev/mmcblk0?
[4:05] <Triffid_Hunter> Froolap: swap?
[4:06] <ShorTie> the /boot partition has to be on the sdcard in a fat partition
[4:06] <Froolap> I should be using the usb for swap, at least that's what I set in /etc/fstab
[4:06] <ShorTie> the rest can be any where
[4:06] <Froolap> after boot it shouldn't need the /boot partition any more.
[4:07] <Triffid_Hunter> Froolap: swapon -s will tell you
[4:07] <ShorTie> wouldn't garenty that, as that is where the firmware is
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[4:08] <ShorTie> it's not just the kernel you know
[4:08] <Froolap> Yeah, but it should still look in /boot and find what it needs.
[4:09] <Froolap> and good catch on the swap, guess there's more to it then just making a swap partition and telling fstab to go get it.
[4:11] <Froolap> thought that once the system was up I could eject the sd card and save it from electrical incident.
[4:13] <ShorTie> just get a good surge protector and/or a ups, all will be well
[4:14] <ShorTie> i have all my electronic stuff plugged into ups's
[4:14] <Froolap> I have done so. but that doesn't remove the low voltage box that shows up from time to time and is known to corrupt an sd card.....
[4:15] <ShorTie> if your seeing the rainbow box, you need to fix the real problem instead of coming up with a work around for it, imho
[4:16] <Froolap> and seince i seldom have a monitor on that is connected to the pi, and logging low voltage would only increase the low voltage by forcing a write to the sd card..... I have no idea how frequently that condition exists
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[4:17] <ShorTie> how many amps is your power supply and what usb devices do you have hooked up ??
[4:18] <Froolap> ShorTie: I only saw it once with this adapter/power cable. it's a 2a charger for my samsunbg galaxy7..... that was during boot. doing 7 boot back to back afterwards failed to reproduce the low volt warning.
[4:19] <Froolap> I have my KVM connected and my edimax wireless dongle. everything else goes off of powered usb hub,.
[4:19] <ShorTie> they do recommend a >= 2.5amp supply
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[4:21] <ShorTie> the wireless can over draw the default 600ma limit under high load most likely
[4:21] <Froolap> maybe they do, but it's the only supply I have on hand with a usb port..... and well, i was seeing the same thing feeding the pi from my 5v lead for a hard drive.....
[4:21] <ShorTie> have you done the current hack ??
[4:21] <Froolap> the low volt was during the boot..... I doubt that it was even detected at that point.....
[4:21] <ShorTie> to enable full usb current
[4:22] <Froolap> I haven't done any hack/overclock, etc
[4:22] <Froolap> i am powered by the pi power port, not back feeding through usb.
[4:22] <ShorTie> i'd do it if there is wifi hooked up
[4:23] <ShorTie> understand
[4:23] <Froolap> as far as I can tell there has never been any issue with my previous power supply.
[4:23] <ShorTie> echo "max_usb_current=1" >> /boot/config.txt
[4:23] <ShorTie> then reboot is all it is
[4:24] <Froolap> won't help....... /boot isn't mounted lol
[4:24] <ShorTie> maybe some day they will put it into raspi-config like it should be
[4:24] <Froolap> i don't think I have a raspi-config either
[4:25] <ShorTie> oh, this isn't raspbian then ??
[4:25] <Froolap> nope
[4:25] <ShorTie> ok, then who knows what in it's firmware, lol.
[4:26] <Froolap> should be stock firmware.....
[4:26] <ShorTie> i only use the foundation's bootloader/kernels
[4:27] <Froolap> I believe that I am as well.
[4:27] <ShorTie> i figure, who better to know about the SoC then the guys that developed it
[4:28] <ShorTie> and they like all work for the foundation now since broadcom shut down that SoC development
[4:28] <Froolap> at least, it apears that the script is getting the foundation firmware
[4:29] <Froolap> brb for reboot
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[5:15] <AfterDarkness> Triffid_Hunter, you there?
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[5:42] <CanDoo> whoohoo i can actuate my 74HCT595's
[5:42] <CanDoo> YEAH
[5:45] <pmumble> grats!!
[5:45] * pmumble doesn't know what that is, but thinks it's pretty cool anyway.
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[6:41] <azizLIGHT> lotta nice hardware projects coming out for pi nowadays :)
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[8:56] <sarmiena_> does external storage work faster for pi if it’s self powered?
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[9:02] <sarmiena_> or rather… is it dangerous to run an external usb-powered HDD on raspberry pi? would it be unreliable?
[9:03] <Froolap> why would it be unreliable?
[9:04] <Froolap> I have my usb drive plugged into a powered hub.
[9:04] <pmumble> should be fine as long as you have enough power to drive everything
[9:05] <sarmiena_> what determines “enough power”? i just have the power adapter attached to the pi & external hdd plugged into USB
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[9:07] <sarmiena_> are there different watt adapters to consider with the raspberry pi?
[9:09] <Froolap> eek that's kind of borderline unless your hard drive never goes over the 500ma limit.... and yes the power supply for the pi is critical, but..... I still wouldn't over tax the usb ports
[9:10] <sarmiena_> Froolap: ok so you would suggest using a self powered HDD (like a docking station or something)?
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[9:10] <desikitteh{HH}> sarmiena_: i'd say that's a reasonable idea.
[9:10] <Froolap> uh, I'm not sure what you mean by docking station and self powered, I've seen docking stations that just connect to usb..
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[9:11] <sarmiena_> Froolap: http://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-External-Duplicator-Function-EC-HDD2/dp/B00IKC14OG/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1432710684&sr=1-2&keywords=hdd+docking+station
[9:11] <Froolap> I have a powered hub with charging/data port that I plug my usb drive into and have the sd-card mount / on the usb drive
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[9:12] <sarmiena_> i see
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[9:15] <Froolap> sarmiena_: I don't see any mention of usb2 compatibility...... while it may in fact be backwards compatible..... if it doesn't say so, I wouldn't count on it.
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[9:16] <sarmiena_> Froolap: ah i didn’t mean that exact one. just the idea. but getting a powered hub and plugging my current drive in would work, too apparently
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[9:17] <sarmiena_> also: USB 3.0 devices are backwards compatible with USB 2.0 ports. They'll function normally, but only at USB 2.0 speeds. The only downside is that USB 3.0 devices are still a bit more expensive.
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[9:24] <Froolap> the powered hub I am using appears to be discontinued, but this is close. http://www.amazon.com/D-Link-7port-Usb-2-0-Hub/dp/B00DMLTG3G/ref=sr_1_8?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1432711410&sr=1-8&keywords=dlink+usb+charging+hub
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[9:25] <sarmiena_> cool
[9:25] <sarmiena_> thanks
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[9:26] <Froolap> sarmiena_: I would accept that as rule of thumb 3.0 devices SHOULD be backwards compatible with 2.0...... but I also expect that if a device does not say that it is, then it may be out of specs.
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[9:26] <Froolap> and I've been running http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EAS8M0S/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[9:26] <Froolap> for the last few days off of it.
[9:26] <sarmiena_> yeah i have an older model
[9:27] <sarmiena_> http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Passport-Portable-Silver/dp/B00CO1I2FS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1432711625&sr=8-1&keywords=my+passport+for+mac+1tb
[9:27] <sarmiena_> although i just reformatted it, so the for mac thing is pointless hah
[9:28] <sarmiena_> another thing. will reads/writes get faster with the powered usb hub? right now when directly connected to raspberry pi it’s like 2MB/sec
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[9:30] <Froolap> I can't say that for sure..... but I was just downloading fedora-arm it hit 7mbps for a while but liked to hover around 4 to 5.
[9:31] <Froolap> and that was on my rpi2b
[9:31] <sarmiena_> ok cool thanks
[9:31] <Froolap> with cat5. wifi was much slower
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[9:32] <pmumble> yeah when i said "enough power" i mean you can measure it and you're not dropping below an amp. sorry i wasnt very clear there.
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[9:32] <Froolap> I don't have the tools or the skill to measure power
[9:32] <pmumble> powered hub is a way better idea
[9:33] <Froolap> I'm in the process of repowering all of my pi.....
[9:33] <pmumble> hows your project coming along?
[9:34] <Froolap> I've got an 8A usb charging station that's supposed to be coming in tomorrow. provides up to 2.4a per port
[9:34] <pmumble> sexy
[9:35] <pmumble> 4 ports?
[9:35] <Froolap> I have a few usb to micro usb cables that have an on/off switch near the micro usb port. so no more unplugging and replugging to power cycle
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[9:35] <Froolap> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GTGETFG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[9:36] <Froolap> it's just power, no data
[9:36] <pmumble> awesome
[9:36] <Froolap> remind me and I'll let ya know how it goes
[9:37] <pmumble> how many pis do you have?
[9:37] <Froolap> I have a piB+ a pi2B and a banana pi
[9:38] <Froolap> so with the power station I should be able to free up some wall outlets and orgaine and reduce cables.
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[9:39] <pmumble> cool, giga ethernet on the banana
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[9:41] <Froolap> You'll laugh, but I ordered down some 9 inch usb cables which is JUST long enough to plug into my hard drive, and wrap the cord around the hard drive and then plug it into the powered hub, so I have the powered hub on the bottom, the hard drive in the middle and the pi sitting on top of the hard drive because the hub was just a little too tiny to sit directly on the hub.
[9:41] <Froolap> I dislike the banana.
[9:42] <Froolap> but hey, it keeps the wires tidy
[9:42] <pmumble> nice, well cable clutter sucks so i can understand
[9:42] <pmumble> my lab has wires everywhere, its a nightmare
[9:42] <pmumble> why do you dislike the banana?
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[9:44] <Froolap> because it seems to be an orphan with three different web sites claiming to be the official..... and no user base support, and it seems that at least one of those official sites is sabotaging the others......
[9:44] <sarmiena_> think i’m gonna buy that anker 40W
[9:44] <pmumble> gotcha
[9:45] <pmumble> its in my wishlist now
[9:45] <Froolap> I don't know, but it looks like the group that started out to make the banana had a falling out and split up. I think I saw a legal posted on the alwinner site telling one of the banana sites to cease and desist
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[9:46] <Froolap> I know I did see a legal cease and desist order, and one of the sites replied to it.... but my memory is fuzzy as to which was the source and which is the destination...
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[9:47] <Froolap> I do know that the first few images that I burned for the banana seemed security compromised on boot. I did later get an image that seems good, but I still don't trust it to be on a network with internet access.
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[10:07] * Xark notes besides, you can get a Orange Pi now... :/
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[10:11] <H__> uh ? orange ?! what do you mean ? the color ?
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[10:22] <mimer> anyone who have used PN532 with RPi for bluetooth pairing? I'm in need of a hint or two.
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[10:28] <kanzie> anyone that has their Pi boot into Kodi on Raspbian?
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[10:42] <Sonny_Jim> kanzie: sudo rc-update.d
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[10:43] <kanzie> Sonny_Jim: yeah that alone wont do the trick.
[10:43] <Sonny_Jim> There's more to that command but I'll let you figure that out
[10:43] <kanzie> That just updates the init.d database
[10:43] <kanzie> Sonny_Jim: hahahah, ok… well thanks I guess
[10:43] <Sonny_Jim> Have you tried googling for "startup kodi to boot raspbian"
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[10:50] <Froolap> of course not. If i knew to look for that then I would have found something else.
[10:50] <sandman> Does the RPi2 automatically adjust its GPU memory split now?
[10:51] <sandman> I recall seeing something about setting an option to "xx" in config.txt or some such thing a while ago
[10:51] <sandman> Is that just the default now or something?
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[10:54] <ShorTie> gpu memory split still the same way, set it in config.txt and reboot
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[11:05] <ambodi> Hi guys
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[11:13] <mimer> ambodi, hello !
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[11:15] <shiftplusone> sandman: what you're talking about was an experimental feature that's no longer supported.
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[11:21] <AlephTwo> Hi. Anybody here connected to the camera websocket interface with python/SimpleCV? I was wondering about accessing the inbuilt object recognition stuff in the webserver stream
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[11:26] <sandman> shiftplusone: Gotchya. Thanks.
[11:26] <sandman> Secondly, anyone know why after a period of time, my RPi2 would just start Segfaulting on random things? Even simple stuff, like "ls"
[11:26] <sandman> It's not overclocked or anything, though it does have a heat sink on it.
[11:27] <shiftplusone> sandman: haven't seen that happen
[11:27] <Sonny_Jim> Filesystem corruption would be my guess
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[11:27] <Sonny_Jim> does dmesg segfault?
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[11:27] <sandman> I did a restore recently, so we'll see if it happens again.
[11:27] <sandman> I'll let you know what comes of it
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[11:27] <AlephTwo> sandman: Is your power supply good?
[11:27] <AlephTwo> Could be brownouts
[11:28] <sandman> I just bought the Canakit
[11:28] <ambodi> guys, how can I mentioned other user's name in the chat? I'm a newbie
[11:28] <sandman> Could be. Except that it's powered by a solar panel + battery
[11:28] <sandman> So on second thought, probably not brownouts.
[11:28] <AlephTwo> ambodi: start typing the name & press <tab> to complete
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[11:29] <ambodi> AlephTwo: Thanks :)
[11:29] <Sonny_Jim> sandman: Have you checked to see if it's a healthy +5V?
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[11:29] <sandman> Sonny_Jim: I'll take a look at some point. So no "brownout", but it may be a power-related problem
[11:29] <ambodi> mimer: Hi, I have a project that I wanna hear you guys' feedback. My idea is to use raspberry pi as your local workstation.
[11:29] <sandman> We'll see if it comes up first, since I did run an overclock for a period of time on the RPi2 setting just to see if it would run stable
[11:30] <ambodi> and make use of your cloud instance
[11:30] <sandman> And sure enough, it apparently ultimately started segfaulting. Then it just kept happening after that, even after the OC was removed. Which now that I mention this, kind of makes me think FS corruption
[11:31] <AlephTwo> sandman: Unless you borked something during the overclock.. Fingers crossed that you didn't.
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[11:31] <sandman> I just used the OC in raspi-config
[11:31] <sandman> Nothing serious
[11:31] <sandman> I was under the impression they were "safe", at least insofar as they wouldn't damage your hardware by way of a cpu governor and all that jazz
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[11:32] <ShorTie> how well OC works is largely dependent on the quality of your power supply
[11:32] <AlephTwo> So my guess is power > fs > os > hardware issues :)
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[11:32] <ShorTie> don't think it will cause 'hardware issues', just software
[11:33] <sandman> Yeah
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[12:22] <ahop> Hi!
[12:22] <ahop> ShorTie: See http://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/37de1c/this_guy_wrote_a_script_that_allows_to_create/ it's yours :)
[12:23] <ahop> +15!
[12:24] <ShorTie> ya, someone else is trying to make me push it up to github too...
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[12:28] <ShorTie> but really, in away, don't understand what the difference between the 2 would be
[12:29] <ShorTie> any smart peep is gonna l00k thru it first anyways
[12:29] <ShorTie> but i guess it might give some user input on it
[12:30] <ShorTie> more so then on the forums, which my stuff gets like nill
[12:30] <ShorTie> but i think that is because they are well tested, and just work
[12:30] <ShorTie> Laughs Out Loud
[12:32] <ahop> :)
[12:33] <ahop> I think it's good that it's published there, it may be useful for lots of people
[12:34] <ShorTie> i gotta dig thru spindle and see how to setup alsa and add it as a option i guess
[12:34] <shiftplusone> git provides version control and github provides a good interface for it all, including issue tracking and pull requests, which makes it much more cromulent than 'random script some guy wrote'
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[12:34] <g105b> Please can someone guide me in recording stereo audio on Raspberry Pi 2? Does anyone have a tutorial?
[12:34] <ShorTie> then i can get onto adding your stuff for you
[12:36] <ShorTie> ya, ya, but it's the readmeMD and the 1 finger pokin .. :/~
[12:36] <ahop> g105b: What do you want to do? In which language?
[12:36] <ahop> g105b: I have several projects with audio on RPi2
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[12:37] <g105b> ahop: language doesn't bother me, I'm struggling to understand how to interface with a mic over the gpio pins.
[12:38] <ShorTie> get a usb sound card with audio input would be the easiest
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[12:38] <g105b> ahop: happy in C++, Python, bash, but my main languages are web languages like JavaScript but I doubt they are good for the job.
[12:40] <shiftplusone> ShorTie: well, yeah. One major reason to use ua-netinst is that it has a history of being maintained. We don't know if your script will be around, for how long it has been around or how it has changed over time. What happens when there's an issue? I don't care either way, since I can write my own script if I need it, but someone just stumbling across all of this wouldn't have much confidence in some dropbox thing.
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[12:42] <ShorTie> true, very true
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[12:43] <g105b> ShorTie: I'm not looking for easy, this is a learning project.
[12:44] <ShorTie> ok, fare enough and good for you
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[12:44] <ShorTie> learning is what the pi is all about
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[12:45] <ShorTie> i guess, just didn't know your soldering skills is all
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[12:47] <ahop> ShorTie +10 about what shiftplusone said: with a project on github (or anywhere else) we have a history, we can fork it and share it
[12:48] <g105b> ShorTie: soldering? I have the Raspi 2 so I thought no soldering necessary for I2S?
[12:48] <ahop> we can have feedback with issues etc.
[12:48] <ahop> btw what is the license of your code ? MIT license?
[12:48] <ahop> g105b: use a soundcard
[12:48] <g105b> ahop: why?
[12:48] <ShorTie> I2S is just pins, no real hardware attached to them
[12:49] <ShorTie> you gotta add the hardware you want
[12:49] <ahop> g105b: so you want to make your own soundcard with GPIO?
[12:49] <g105b> ahop: I'd like to.
[12:49] <ahop> ie listen to some GPIO pin 44100 per second?
[12:49] <ahop> and measure the voltage, and then store this in a file?
[12:49] <g105b> ahop: I can see this has been done really well by some people but without documentation.
[12:49] <ahop> you're reinventing a soundcard, (this would be interesting, I admit!)
[12:50] <ahop> g105b: do you have a link?
[12:50] <ahop> I d be interested too
[12:50] <shiftplusone> ahop: he'll end up using a ready i2s codec chip probably. I wouldn't try doing this with an ADC.
[12:51] <g105b> ahop: there's a linux driver for I2S on the pi too, but this is for the raspi1 and I thought raspi2 had more capabilities: http://blog.koalo.de/2013/05/i2s-support-for-raspberry-pi.html
[12:51] <ahop> g105b ohh you want to use a I2S ADC chip?
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[12:52] <g105b> ahop: I don't know _how_ I want to achieve it, but I just want to plug a stereo mic into the pi somehow, and record the audio.
[12:52] <ahop> g105b: ok i see
[12:52] <ahop> The main question is:
[12:52] <g105b> ahop: interesting stuff here: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=8496&start=600
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[12:52] <ahop> Do you want to reinvent the wheel and do it "low-level" (this would be an interesting project, I like such things because you understand how a soundcard internally works)
[12:52] <ahop> OR
[12:53] <UncleKiwi> Hey Shortie: im only getting 4.60V between tp1 and tp2 ?
[12:53] <ahop> Do you want an easy ready-to-use solution?
[12:53] <UncleKiwi> with my newcables :(
[12:53] <g105b> ahop: I want to learn
[12:53] <g105b> ahop: I know how to plug a USB mic in already :)
[12:53] <shiftplusone> ahop: sounds cards aren't that interesting.
[12:54] <g105b> shiftplusone: neither are little green circuit boards, to some people
[12:54] <ahop> shiftplusone: they are :)
[12:54] <shiftplusone> it's just a codec chip with some caps most of the time
[12:54] <ahop> g105b: Would you like using a ready to use USB 2 euros like http://www.ebay.fr/itm/like/USB-2-0-External-Audio-3D-5-1-Channel-Sound-Card-Adapter-Pour-Computer-Laptop-KK/281375934338?hlpht=true&ops=true&viphx=1&_trksid=p2050601.c100103.m2451&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20150422114051%26meid%3Dbe199e5b967c4071b49d1f2a59565d0c%26pid%3D100103%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%
[12:54] <ahop> 26sd%3D231334667385%26clkid%3D6435675693190087768&_qi=RTM2065553 ?
[12:54] <ahop> it has a mic input
[12:55] <ahop> If you really want good quality, I would use
[12:55] <ahop> PCM2902 chip (DAC+ADC ie audio out + audio in),
[12:55] <ahop> I use chip PCM2704 everyday it's excellent DAC! (audio out)
[12:56] <ahop> Here is a page showing how to build such a PCM2902-based soundcard: http://www.pavouk.org/hw/usbcodecpcm2902/en_index.html
[12:56] <ahop> I'm thinking about doing one myself
[12:57] <g105b> I'm not concerned with audio out, only in.
[12:58] <g105b> And yeah, I could get a USB mic or something similar, but what would be the fun in that?
[12:58] <ahop> That's why I'm asking
[12:58] <ahop> It always depends on the time you want to use for this project
[12:59] <ahop> If you want good audio input, the easiest solution would be I think PCM2902
[12:59] <ahop> Would http://www.pavouk.org/hw/usbcodecpcm2902/en_index.html fit your need?
[12:59] <ahop> Or are you looking for something else?
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[13:00] <g105b> ahop: it does look a cool project, probably more than I'd need, but I like the simplicity of it on face value.
[13:02] <ahop> If you want Audio IN, you need an AnalogToDigital (ADC) anyway. So you have USB ADC (PCM2902) or probably I2C ADC (I don't know) or SPI ADC ?
[13:02] <ahop> If you want to connect to GPIO, probably I2C or SPI...
[13:03] <UncleKiwi> ShorTie: I have removed all USB devices from my pi and when i measure the voltage between tp1 and tp2 im getting 4.73
[13:03] <ahop> UncleKiwi: what's TP1 and TP2?
[13:03] <ahop> GPIO pins, what kind of?
[13:03] <UncleKiwi> but if u plug in the keyboard it pulls it down to 4.60volts
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[13:03] <shiftplusone> UncleKiwi: bad power supply is bad.
[13:04] <shiftplusone> (or the cable)
[13:04] <shiftplusone> (or both)
[13:04] <UncleKiwi> its a 3.15amp 5.15 volt
[13:04] <shiftplusone> doesn't matter what the label says
[13:04] <UncleKiwi> yeah i just bought the cables
[13:04] <shiftplusone> Anyone can put anything on there
[13:05] <UncleKiwi> i can measure the volts at the power supply
[13:05] <UncleKiwi> and its 5.15 volt
[13:05] <shiftplusone> under load?
[13:05] <UncleKiwi> with out load
[13:05] <shiftplusone> doesn't matter what it's without load
[13:05] <UncleKiwi> ok
[13:05] <UncleKiwi> so maybe cables are ok
[13:05] <UncleKiwi> but powersupply is bad
[13:06] <UncleKiwi> or both
[13:06] <UncleKiwi> hmm
[13:06] <shiftplusone> If the power supply is the problem it's a regulation problem (it can't maintain the voltage over the entire output current range).
[13:06] <shiftplusone> so it may start off at 5.15 and then sag towards the end
[13:06] <UncleKiwi> ok i have several power supplys
[13:06] <UncleKiwi> i'll try a few
[13:06] <shiftplusone> http://www.righto.com/2012/10/a-dozen-usb-chargers-in-lab-apple-is.html
[13:07] <UncleKiwi> and see what my results are
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[13:07] <shiftplusone> The "Power curve" section in that post is interesting
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[13:08] <UncleKiwi> thanks
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[13:12] <UncleKiwi> but does not not make sense that the voltage should be lower between tp1 and tp2 ?
[13:12] <UncleKiwi> when under load
[13:12] <UncleKiwi> what is the reading on your Rpi ?
[13:13] <UncleKiwi> between these points shiftplusone:
[13:13] <shiftplusone> lower than what? Lower than at the power supply without load?
[13:14] <UncleKiwi> yeah
[13:14] <UncleKiwi> almost all my powersupplys do the same thing
[13:15] <shiftplusone> it makes all the sense because either the power supply is NOT putting out 5.15 at load or the voltage is dropping in the cable, so by the time you get to TP1-TP2, it's lower.
[13:16] <UncleKiwi> i have 18awg copper cables 35cm
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[13:16] <UncleKiwi> i have tried 3 different power supplys
[13:16] <UncleKiwi> that are greater than 2.5amp
[13:16] <UncleKiwi> and all drop the voltage
[13:16] <UncleKiwi> :(
[13:16] <UncleKiwi> i need to know what to buy
[13:17] <UncleKiwi> can you please point me to link eg ebay
[13:17] <UncleKiwi> i just want the correct power supply that would drop
[13:17] <UncleKiwi> *would not drop
[13:19] <shiftplusone> http://swag.raspberrypi.org/collections/pi-kits/products/raspberry-pi-universal-power-supply
[13:19] <shiftplusone> You could check the fuse, just to make sure that's not the problem
[13:20] <UncleKiwi> what fuse
[13:20] <UncleKiwi> ?
[13:20] <shiftplusone> F3, I think
[13:20] <UncleKiwi> how would i be able to tell
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[13:20] <shiftplusone> measure the voltage across it under load
[13:21] <UncleKiwi> i have another pi i can test with
[13:21] <UncleKiwi> i'll do that they cant all be broken
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[13:21] <UncleKiwi> so on your setups what is your reading between tp1 and tp2
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[13:22] <shiftplusone> I have a pi2 which doesn't have tp1 and tp2, but the equivalent voltage is ~5V
[13:22] <UncleKiwi> ok
[13:23] <g105b> I've just found this project: http://www.pridopia.co.uk/pi-usb-7-hub-i2c-23017-1.html and I wondered how the USB signals were extended via only the GPIO pins... is it easy to use GPIO as another USB?
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[13:25] <g105b> surely the speed of the data transfer on that board will be super slow?
[13:26] <shiftplusone> I think you're meant to use an additional cable, not just GPIO
[13:26] <shiftplusone> got connect the USB, then you're just adding another hub via usb
[13:26] <g105b> shiftplusone: I can't see the additional cable in that project... I can't work out how it is made.
[13:27] <shiftplusone> http://www.pridopia.co.uk/images/rs-pi-7-uhub-23017-tv.jpg
[13:27] <shiftplusone> look at the top microusb connector
[13:27] <shiftplusone> what's that for?
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[13:28] <g105b> shiftplusone: I see, that's the secret right there
[13:29] <g105b> shiftplusone: so now I can't work out why the GPIO pins are used at all ...
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[13:29] <shiftplusone> extra gpio and leds
[13:30] <shiftplusone> (it's not a good board)
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[13:36] <ahop> Any idea someone:
[13:36] <ahop> http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/31953/raspberry-pi-ethernet-cable-pc-windows-connected-to-internet
[13:37] <ahop> ie RPi <-ethernet cable -> PC <------- internet
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[13:37] <ahop> how to get internet on RPi?
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[13:38] <nomis> ahop: configure your PC as a router
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[13:38] <Twanislas> This can be done easily if you use windows
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[13:39] <Twanislas> https://www.google.com/search?q=how%20to%20configure%20internet%20sharing%20in%20windows&rct=j
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[13:39] <turtlehat> yea enable internet sharing
[13:40] <turtlehat> on the windows pc
[13:40] <turtlehat> but that may or may not conflict with the free dhcp server
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[13:41] <Twanislas> turtlehat, what server are you talking about ?
[13:45] <turtlehat> the one in ahops se post
[13:45] <turtlehat> "freeware dhcp server"
[13:47] <Twanislas> Oh, did not notice that sorry :/. I think ahop used this freeware just to have the pi get an ip address from the pc. If he/she uses ICS to share the connection via the pc, then he/she can totally uninstall this :)
[13:47] <Twanislas> As ICS will take care of it.
[13:47] <turtlehat> yea exactly
[13:48] <turtlehat> two dhcp servers in the same lan can cause ruckus
[13:48] <Twanislas> Yep, a lot :D
[13:49] <ahop> ShorTie: what is "if [ "$bootloader" == "no-kernel" ]; then" => what does this mean bootloader = no-kernel ?
[13:51] <ShorTie> that is for if you do not want to use the foundations bootloader/kernel
[13:52] <UncleKiwi> shiftplusone: i tested with another pi and i get 4.95volt
[13:52] <shiftplusone> same supply and cable?
[13:52] <UncleKiwi> one of my pi's must be a littl ebit faulty
[13:52] <ShorTie> oops, if you don't want to use the foundations bootloader/kernel, it uses the same stuff a netinstall
[13:52] <UncleKiwi> yeah same psu and cable
[13:53] <shiftplusone> UncleKiwi: and what was the voltage across the fuse on the one you think is faulty?
[13:53] <UncleKiwi> sorry i could not find the fuse
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[13:53] <UncleKiwi> i just tried to test by swapping pi
[13:53] <UncleKiwi> and this is my findings
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[13:54] <UncleKiwi> damn it i bought one of thoes power supplys
[13:54] <UncleKiwi> haha
[13:54] <UncleKiwi> ah well
[13:55] <UncleKiwi> if its the fuse is there anything i can do ?
[13:57] <shiftplusone> sure
[13:57] <shiftplusone> replace it or short it out
[13:57] <UncleKiwi> ok how would i have naffed the fuse
[13:58] <shiftplusone> that's a good question, because the fuse is resettable, so the fault could be elsewhere. Anything attached on GPIO?
[13:58] <ahop> ShorTie: why everywhere FTP && RPi2 ?
[13:58] <ahop> What's specific to FTP && RPi2 when both together?
[13:59] <ShorTie> so you can pull sources from ftp.debian
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[13:59] <ShorTie> which only works on a rpi2
[13:59] <shiftplusone> (unless you use armel)
[14:00] <shiftplusone> but the foundation isn't really going to support armel, so no firmware updates.
[14:00] <ShorTie> don't cornfuse me more then i am, lol.
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[14:04] <ahop> ShorTie: for standard thing, I don't need FTP
[14:04] <ahop> right?
[14:05] <ShorTie> nop
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[14:08] <linuxthefish> does the raspberry pi 1 b+ on raspbian use DHCP by default?
[14:08] <shiftplusone> yes
[14:09] <ahop> If direct conncetion RPi <-- ethernet --> PC Windows
[14:09] <ahop> How to have internet on RPi?
[14:09] <ahop> Some one you use Win?
[14:09] <shiftplusone> pretty sure someone already linked the answer to that
[14:09] <linuxthefish> my router does DHCP yeah
[14:09] <linuxthefish> thanks
[14:09] <shiftplusone> <Twanislas> https://www.google.com/search?q=how%20to%20configure%20internet%20sharing%20in%20windows&rct=j
[14:10] <linuxthefish> ahop internet connection sharing on Windows, or bridge the interface with the pi on with the interface your local network is on
[14:10] <Great-Geek> shiftplusone, One does not simply post links to Google. Have you not heard of lmgtfy ?
[14:10] <ahop> I remember there is sometihng simpler than setting up a "connection sharing"
[14:10] <ahop> there was some one-line solution
[14:10] <ahop> in command line?
[14:11] <linuxthefish> command line on windows? :p
[14:11] <shiftplusone> Great-Geek: I'm not that much of an ass.
[14:11] <linuxthefish> does the rpi 1 b+ have ethernet lights?
[14:11] <shiftplusone> I save lmgtfy for those special occasions.
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[14:14] <ahop> Anyone remember some ifconfig / ipconfig or some thing like this or route
[14:14] <ahop> to set up connection?
[14:14] <Twanislas> ahop, how does the internet gets into your pc ? A wifi key ?
[14:17] <turtlehat> and which version of windows?
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[14:18] <ahop> Twanislas yes
[14:18] <ahop> Wifi , WIN7 64 , I use dhcpserver.exe (freeware)
[14:18] <Twanislas> And the dhcpserver.exe is only used for the pi ?
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[14:19] <turtlehat> whats wrong with using internet connection sharing?
[14:19] <Twanislas> good point :D
[14:20] <Twanislas> basically, you just uninstall/remove dhcpserver.exe, go to your wifi connection properties and check "allow other users to use this connections" (or similar) and apply.
[14:20] <Twanislas> Plus, I do not trust one liners on windows !
[14:20] <Twanislas> :)
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[14:23] <linuxthefish> can i access the command line through serial by default?
[14:25] <ahop> Twanislas: do you mean I don't need dhcpserver.exe anymore at all?
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[14:26] <ahop> Where in Wifi Connection properties? I know pretty well these menus, but I didn't find
[14:26] <Twanislas> Not if you use the integrated internet connection sharing (ICS) of windows. It will handle it and activate dhcp service on your ethernet interface dor the pi
[14:26] <ahop> Can you show a screenshot
[14:26] <Twanislas> leeme find you one :)
[14:26] <ahop> ok cool so I'll remove dhcpserver.exe
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[14:26] <ahop> ok
[14:27] <Twanislas> http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b41/evilone99uk/ICS3.png
[14:27] <ahop> ShorTie: what does fuser -av sdcard
[14:27] <ahop> fuser -kv sdcard do?
[14:27] <Twanislas> ahop, in the properties of your ethernet network card
[14:27] <Twanislas> LAN
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[14:28] <ahop> Twanislas: can you show the previous pages?
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[14:29] <ahop> It's ok, I found
[14:30] <ahop> I checked this checkbox, I removed dhcpserver.exe, unplugged the Pi
[14:30] <ahop> Now replugging the Pi
[14:30] <Twanislas> Perfect I was searching for another screenshot :D
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[14:30] <Twanislas> Did you apply the settings ? :D
[14:30] <ahop> Twanislas: now how to know the IP attributed to the Pi?
[14:30] <ahop> Yes I applied
[14:30] <Great-Geek> ahop: http://linux.die.net/man/1/fuser
[14:30] <Twanislas> it should be something like
[14:31] <Twanislas> Do you have a screen connected to the pi ?
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[14:33] <Twanislas> Microsoft does not give you much flexibility in the dhcp functionality of ICS. They do let you change the range, as found here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/230148. But as far as I've ever seen, you can't see it. There might be a registry hack to do so, but nothing I'm aware of.
[14:33] <Twanislas> you could run "arp -a" in a command line prompt, it will list ip's your pc "talked" to
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[14:40] <aRdoR> seeking to hire bluetooth respberry pi developer for project.
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[14:40] <aRdoR> short term, freelance
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[14:58] <linuxthefish> is it possible to have 2 dead pi's?
[14:58] <ozzzy> yep
[14:58] * ozzzy has 2 dead pis
[14:58] <shiftplusone> They wouldn't annihilate together?
[14:58] <linuxthefish> i just ordered 2 from RS and they just show power and activity lights in solid red and green
[14:59] <shiftplusone> linuxthefish: sd card properly imaged and plugged in?
[14:59] <linuxthefish> yeah, i even verified the sha1 after i downloaded the .zip
[14:59] <shiftplusone> how did you image the card?
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[15:00] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: hai
[15:00] <shiftplusone> (that doesn't sound like a faulty pi)
[15:00] <linuxthefish> put into windiskimager and clicked write
[15:00] <shiftplusone> the .img or the .zip?
[15:00] <linuxthefish> .zip
[15:00] <linuxthefish> oh
[15:00] <linuxthefish> whoops
[15:00] <ozzzy> hehe
[15:00] <SirLagz> lol
[15:00] <shiftplusone> SirLagz: ahoy
[15:00] <ozzzy> problem solved
[15:01] <shiftplusone> SirLagz: how's it going?
[15:01] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: yeah alright. bloody tired
[15:02] <Great-Geek> linuxthefish, linux in your username and you're using windows? Blasphemy!
[15:02] <linuxthefish> only machine with micro SD :(
[15:02] <shiftplusone> well, it's not linux the os... it's a fish.
[15:02] <shiftplusone> I don't think I'd use a fish instead of windows.
[15:05] <niston> shiftplusone o/
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[15:05] <shiftplusone> \o
[15:05] <SirLagz> hmm...should I try to get my DS18B20s working tonight...
[15:05] <SirLagz> so much work to do =/
[15:06] <ozzzy> OSs are plumbing... it's the apps that are important
[15:06] <ozzzy> and the hardware support of course
[15:06] <shiftplusone> SirLagz: naps are always an option.
[15:06] <Tenkawa> ozzzy: unless you are in my world abd the plumbing is the apps too
[15:06] <Tenkawa> er and
[15:07] <ozzzy> yeah... we used to let the system programmers out for an hour a day of sunshine
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[15:07] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: I don't think work would appreciate me napping while I'm meant to be doing training :P
[15:07] <Tenkawa> who needs sunshine??
[15:07] <shiftplusone> SirLagz: there's always unemployment.
[15:08] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: that won't help me either
[15:08] <shiftplusone> I think that just leaves doing a half arsed job
[15:08] <SirLagz> haha
[15:08] <SirLagz> which means paying for an exam and not passing it then :P
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[15:13] <Tenkawa> uggh I'm sleepy
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[15:20] <niston> create BGA footprints: https://code.google.com/p/autobga/
[15:20] <Tenkawa> niston: eh?
[15:20] <McBride36> i just put stickers on my laptop, i haven't put stickers on anything since like first grade
[15:20] <Tenkawa> McBride36: i have to take them off new products all the time :(
[15:20] <niston> Tnkawa: just found that, maybe someone else will find it nice to have
[15:21] <niston> err Tenkawa
[15:21] <Tenkawa> they put them in the most intrustive spots
[15:21] <McBride36> goo gone!
[15:21] <Tenkawa> niston: i just wish i could find out if there is a qemu guest definition for the rpi2 yet
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[15:21] <Tenkawa> McBride36: yeah.. i'm just saying the fact that i have to deal with it at all
[15:22] <niston> Tenkawa: other than the guy here who said it did (on retrospective, he might have been referring to the ability to use pi2 as host)... didn't find anything anywhere
[15:22] <McBride36> don't you have like interns or seomthing? make them do it
[15:22] <Tenkawa> McBride36: haahaa
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[15:29] <HotCoder> i found a use for my pi
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[15:31] <Goldy> a doorstop?
[15:32] <Goldy> anyone used OpenCV on their Pi?
[15:32] <HotCoder> im going to use it to troll websites
[15:32] <HotCoder> leave it running all day
[15:32] <HotCoder> then keep posting
[15:33] <Goldy> how about a twitter/instagram bot that comments on peoples food pictures
[15:33] <HotCoder> could be done
[15:33] <HotCoder> ezpz baby
[15:34] <Goldy> just post things like is taht a fly? or perhaps worse...
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[15:35] <HotCoder> interesting. the possiblities are limitless
[15:35] <HotCoder> i could keep editing kim jong's wikipedia
[15:35] <HotCoder> writing stupid shit on there all day
[15:35] <HotCoder> checking if someone edits it back. then editing it up again
[15:35] <IT_Sean> HotCoder: please review the channel language policy. The rules are linked in the topic.
[15:35] <HotCoder> language?
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[15:36] <day> yes
[15:36] <day> english is not allowed here
[15:36] <HotCoder> instead of me playing sherlock holmes, how about you tell me what word you had issue with? and i'll stop?
[15:36] <IT_Sean> Yes. Swearing is discouraged in #raspberrypi. The rules are clearly linked in the topic.
[15:36] <HotCoder> oh so it was >stupid shit
[15:36] <HotCoder> gotcha
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[15:36] <day> haha
[15:36] <shiftplusone> beat me to it
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[15:36] <HotCoder> i just said i'd stop?
[15:37] <HotCoder> wat....
[15:37] <IT_Sean> 's gonna be one of those days, innit.
[15:37] <Tenkawa> IT_Sean: yep
[15:37] <HotCoder> wat days dude
[15:37] <shiftplusone> just ban, he's clearly being a butthat
[15:37] <IT_Sean> he is being a butthat.
[15:37] <HotCoder> i just said i'd stop dude
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[15:37] <HotCoder> anyway
[15:37] <HotCoder> goldy still here or you scared?
[15:37] <Goldy> yeah, just loling
[15:37] <HotCoder> what else can be done with a computer running 24/7
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[15:38] <HotCoder> xD yeah it can get funny on irc sometimes
[15:38] <Tenkawa> that question has no limit to the answers
[15:38] <HotCoder> Tenkawa, any ideas?
[15:38] <Tenkawa> many
[15:39] <HotCoder> give me top 3
[15:39] <Tenkawa> game server, irc server, web server, compile server
[15:39] <Tenkawa> game (mud in my case)
[15:39] <SirLagz> HotCoder: Monitoring server, router, NAS, downloader
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[15:39] <HotCoder> like how you put 4. cause 0-3 hehe
[15:39] <Tenkawa> SirLagz: oooh.. snort servers
[15:39] <Tenkawa> nessus
[15:40] <Tenkawa> heheheheh
[15:40] <SirLagz> HotCoder: wifi router as well
[15:40] <SirLagz> Tenkawa: heh
[15:40] <SirLagz> honeypot, upside-down-ter-net routers
[15:40] <SirLagz> fuzzy-net-routers
[15:40] <HotCoder> SirLagz, dont you need hardware for wifi router?
[15:40] <SirLagz> HotCoder: just a USB wifi stick
[15:40] <HotCoder> yee
[15:40] <Tenkawa> SirLagz: is the bus backplane quite enough to handle the routing?
[15:40] <SirLagz> Tenkawa: if you're using 802.11G, sure
[15:40] <Tenkawa> ahh
[15:40] <Tenkawa> n might be a challenge
[15:41] <SirLagz> I haven't tried with the Pi 2 though
[15:41] <Tenkawa> pi 2 flies
[15:41] <SirLagz> I had a Pi 1 as a WiFi router for months, it works great until I tried to torrent from it
[15:41] <HotCoder> i have the pi 2
[15:41] <HotCoder> wats NAS ? SirLagz
[15:41] <Tenkawa> i wish i couold move my cable connection to a pi2 heeehee
[15:42] <jer> HotCoder, network attached storage
[15:42] <HotCoder> im new to this whole pi business
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[15:42] <Tenkawa> this router they gave me is huge and barely gets utilized
[15:42] <jer> NAS isn't a pi thing
[15:42] <IT_Sean> You call yourself HotCoder and you don't know what a NAS is?
[15:42] <HotCoder> well im new to the tech business
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[15:42] <ahop> Re!
[15:42] <HotCoder> IT_Sean, i just code
[15:42] <HotCoder> and i look nice
[15:42] <HotCoder> thats all
[15:42] <ahop> Usually I'm connecting RPi --> ISP router, and it works
[15:42] <TheLostAdmin> How about turning your 24x7 running pi into a public shell server? Watching the abuse should be fun.
[15:42] <HotCoder> TheLostAdmin, keep talking
[15:42] <McBride36> that does sound fun actually
[15:42] <ahop> but now RPi -- eth --> PC Windows, it works for local (thanks to dhcpsrv.exe)
[15:42] <ahop> but not internet
[15:43] <ahop> I tried to follow advice of using "Internet SHaring" on windows
[15:43] <ahop> but fails...
[15:43] <HotCoder> TheLostAdmin, im all about the abuse. ever since i was a little kid
[15:43] <SirLagz> TheLostAdmin: public proxy server can have some fun too
[15:43] <ahop> Why does this fail on Pi :
[15:43] <SirLagz> http://www.ex-parrot.com/pete/upside-down-ternet.html
[15:43] <HotCoder> i used to throw cats into the pond in my village
[15:43] <ahop> ip route add default gw
[15:43] <SirLagz> ahop: you're not setting an interface for that route
[15:43] <Tenkawa> omg its not even 10 yet? uggh this is going to be a long day
[15:43] <HotCoder> Tenkawa, what country?
[15:43] <ahop> SirLagz how?
[15:43] <Tenkawa> usa
[15:44] <SirLagz> ahop: I don't remember off the top of my head lol...
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[15:44] <HotCoder> ah ok
[15:44] <HotCoder> its 9 44
[15:44] <HotCoder> here
[15:44] <HotCoder> 16 minutes till 10
[15:44] <Tenkawa> yeah eastern
[15:45] <Tenkawa> i've bee awake since 4 something :(
[15:45] <HotCoder> ah really? how come so early?
[15:45] <SirLagz> ahop: add dev eth0 or eth1 or whatever to the end
[15:45] <Tenkawa> wish i knew
[15:46] <SirLagz> ahop: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-linux-configuring-default-route-with-ipcommand/
[15:46] <HotCoder> i woke up at like 6
[15:46] <Tenkawa> probably this crappy weather
[15:46] <HotCoder> i hate it too up here in canada
[15:46] <HotCoder> cold one day, hot the next
[15:47] * IT_Sean makes an incredibly offensive comment involving maple syrup
[15:48] <jer> HotCoder, i used to as well, until i moved from Canada to Costa Rica. I've been here for 5 years now, and the thing I miss the most from Canada (specifically, midwestern ontario though applies elsewhere) is the middle of february, leaving my house to shovel the driveway, and have that first breath of air make your lungs feel like they're on fire
[15:48] <jer> followed almost immediately by your eyebrows freezing to your face =]
[15:49] <jer> it's the little things you miss the most =]
[15:49] <HotCoder> the whole resume...nice
[15:49] <Tenkawa> bbl..
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[15:49] <HotCoder> jer its not like that anymore
[15:50] <HotCoder> now the weather seems to be all over the place
[15:50] <HotCoder> its cold in april
[15:50] <jer> whereabouts are you?
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[15:51] <HotCoder> toronto
[15:51] <jer> ah
[15:52] <HotCoder> you in costa rica?
[15:52] <jer> so no emergency telephone calls to the military to help shovel snow in the last few years? =]
[15:52] <HotCoder> i have a few friends here
[15:52] <jer> yeah
[15:52] <HotCoder> there*
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[15:55] <HotCoder> jer what do you like about costa rica?
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[16:02] <jer> HotCoder, shorts & t-shirt weather all day, every day.
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[16:03] <ozzzy> too danged hot
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[16:03] <HotCoder> just the way i like my women
[16:03] <HotCoder> IT_Sean, where you from tho?
[16:04] <IT_Sean> Earth. It's the pretty, blue one.
[16:04] <HotCoder> IT_Sean, are you talking about my ex girlfriend's eyes
[16:05] <IT_Sean> ........... no.
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[16:05] <HotCoder> she was not a good person but her eyes...damn.
[16:05] <sandman> Yeah but I bet her breath stinks. That's why you left her
[16:05] <sandman> Cuz you're better than that. Now go get your hair did
[16:06] * sandman puts his arm around HotCoder
[16:06] <sandman> Gotta keep your eye on the things that are important in life.
[16:06] <sandman> The stuff that matters.
[16:06] <sandman> Like beer.
[16:07] <HotCoder> dude. beer has been the focal point of my life for years
[16:07] <HotCoder> i know what you mean
[16:07] <sandman> That's what I like to hear. Now, where was I
[16:08] <HotCoder> she wasn't a good girl
[16:08] <sandman> Oh yeah that's right, I was lurking.
[16:08] <sandman> No?
[16:08] <HotCoder> nope. too many mind games
[16:08] <sandman> I've yet to meet this "good girl" written about in the stories, and I've met them all
[16:08] <HotCoder> too busy trying to get the power in the relationship instead about enjoying it
[16:09] <HotCoder> i dont need a good girl
[16:09] <sandman> Ah, a psycho? You ever see that graph where the x-axis is craziness, and the other is... well.
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[16:09] <sandman> Oh, one of those
[16:09] <sandman> Yeah that's unhealthy as all get out
[16:09] <sandman> Nobody needs that crap
[16:09] <HotCoder> true true. but a hot psycho girl gets old after a while
[16:09] <HotCoder> one day you just cant deal with the crazy no mo
[16:10] <HotCoder> i mean im no saint but damn
[16:11] <sandman> Don't say yes or not to this, but I have a feeling the courts were involved. Possibly copying down the phnoe numbers of women in your contact list
[16:11] * ozzzy married the 'good girl' 35 years ago.... it's been great
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[16:13] <sandman> ozzzy: Consider yourself a very lucky man.
[16:13] <aRdoR> this is what I am looking to have made
[16:13] <aRdoR> http://pastebin.com/gs6T4dwT
[16:13] <aRdoR> http://picpaste.com/image-YDiXOuL9.png
[16:15] <sandman> ozzzy: Thought to be fair, women have changed quite a bit in that time. The things that make women and men alike have always been more numerous than what makes us different, but today it's to a much greater degree. So much so, that I regard most women as "unmarriable". Colleagues, absolutely
[16:15] <sandman> Fun to be around, yeah. Smart, cool, all of the above. But marriable? lol please
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[16:20] <ozzzy> and what is 'marriable'?
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[16:21] <HotCoder> sandman, ?
[16:21] <sandman> Someone who empowers you, and visa versa
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[16:23] <sandman> Pretty good answer, eh? =)
[16:23] <HotCoder> no
[16:23] <sandman> lol
[16:23] <HotCoder> i have no idea what you talking about
[16:23] <sandman> "Vice versa", rather
[16:23] <HotCoder> how did we get from my ex to courts to empowering people
[16:23] <HotCoder> i'm just like...wat
[16:24] <sandman> lol =)
[16:24] <HotCoder> the good girls are usually fat
[16:24] <HotCoder> the bad girls are usually hot
[16:24] <HotCoder> at least in my are
[16:24] <HotCoder> area*
[16:25] <sandman> You must be from the midwest.
[16:25] <sandman> Where the men are men, and so are the women.
[16:25] <HotCoder> im from afghanistan
[16:25] <IT_Sean> okay... lets dial it back a bit.
[16:25] <HotCoder> and bangladesh
[16:26] <sandman> lol you're the boss
[16:26] * shiftplusone can't decide if the discussion is sexist or just stupid.
[16:26] <IT_Sean> shiftplusone: it's both
[16:26] <sandman> Mostly stupid though
[16:26] <HotCoder> hey i have no hate for all women
[16:26] <sandman> Right, just most of them. Gotchya
[16:26] <shiftplusone> "I don't hate women, they're just fat"
[16:26] <sandman> LOL
[16:27] <HotCoder> and i did make some sweeping generalisations but i thought it went without saying, obviously not all fat women are nice and not all hot women are mean :P
[16:27] <sandman> I haven't laughed this hard in a while...
[16:27] <HotCoder> if you had to make disclaimers before every joke/statement then we'd be talking for years
[16:28] <HotCoder> sandman, i'm glad you got your cheap entertainment
[16:28] <sandman> I don't think anybody really cares, HotCoder. They're just trying to keep the channel relatively on-topic
[16:28] <sandman> Only reason they're letting it slide right now is probably because there's tumbleweed rolling around right now
[16:28] <HotCoder> well obviously no one cares. neither do i. i'm just here to pass time inbetween writing code
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[16:28] <sandman> And you can hear some guy caughing in a distance
[16:28] <HotCoder> and ask a few questions about what to do with my rpi
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[16:29] <HotCoder> we're literally a bunch of strangers on computers talking to each other, people we'll never meet. so yes no one cares
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[16:30] <sandman> Well, you know what they say...
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[16:31] <HotCoder> in fact, the anonimity on here is why i say the things i do
[16:33] <sandman> I'm here because I woke up late on my day off, and my gf left for work.
[16:33] <Bilby> okay, Derek, whatever you say
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[16:37] <AlephTwo> Anybody here connected to the pi camera websocket interface with python yet?
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[16:45] <osxyer> hey there, will the rp2 be processor enough to connect to a vpn (openelec) and then stream 720p@60fps ?
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[16:57] <linuxthefish> where are the files needed for "/lib/modules/3.12.35+/build" on raspberry pi?
[16:57] <shiftplusone> osxyer: there are many reasons that won't work.
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[16:57] <shiftplusone> linuxthefish: BYO
[16:57] <osxyer> shiftplusone: yeah, too low cpu i guess
[16:57] <shiftplusone> nuh, that's the last of them
[16:58] <linuxthefish> shiftplusone ?
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[16:58] <shiftplusone> linuxthefish: provide them yourself
[16:58] <linuxthefish> from where??
[16:58] <linuxthefish> i'm trying to install my wireless card, but the installer gives an error "make[1]: *** /lib/modules/3.12.35+/build: No such file or directory. Stop."
[16:58] <shiftplusone> learn to compile the kernel and modules
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[17:00] <linuxthefish> but i don't want a new kernel? :/
[17:00] <shiftplusone> You'll need to know how anyway
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[17:45] <pepijndevos> In my mind floats a raspi that is smaller than the normal one. Which one amy I thinking about? I thought maybe 2 A, but that does not seem to be a thing yet.
[17:45] <pepijndevos> Ah, there http://techcrunch.com/2014/11/10/pi-model-a-plus/
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[17:47] <pepijndevos> Well, that answers my question. I still wonder if A 2 will ever be a thing.
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[17:48] <linuxthefish> does anyone have a compiled rtl8192cu.ko for 3.18.11+ ?
[17:49] <pepijndevos> I'm thinking if I can power the raspi from the BEC of my ESC ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_eliminator_circuit#Radio-controlled_.28R.2FC.29_models )
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[17:51] <linuxthefish> pepijndevos what voltage and current does it supply?
[17:52] <pepijndevos> I'd have to check. Voltage should be around 5v
[17:52] <IT_Sean> "around 5v"?
[17:52] <IT_Sean> you need 5v.
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[17:52] <linuxthefish> you want regulated 5v, and check the datasheet of the regulator to check how much current it provides
[17:52] <IT_Sean> not "around" 5v
[17:52] <linuxthefish> you might need to add a heatsink on the regulator also
[17:53] <IT_Sean> 6v is "around" 5v. 6v will fry your pi.
[17:53] <pepijndevos> RC servos normally run on 5v, or 4.8v incase of rechargable batteries.
[17:53] <pepijndevos> So probably on the low end, not more than 5... I hope. But I'll check.
[17:53] <pepijndevos> What is the minimum?
[17:53] <IT_Sean> 4.75, iirc
[17:54] <IT_Sean> anything below that, and stuff 'll start to drop off. Starting w/ USB
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[17:54] <pepijndevos> Should be fine then, if it supplies enough current.
[17:55] <pepijndevos> I want to attempt something like http://www.emlid.com/ but not as sophisticated.
[17:56] <JK-47> just built a light twisted 28 dual coil. fuckers bouncing all around on the cthulhu.
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[17:56] <Froolap> I dunno, I'm banging my head against the wall with power right now.
[17:57] <JK-47> lol wrong chan.
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[17:57] <Bilby> Froolap, too little? too much?
[17:58] <Froolap> is there a too much warning other then the little smoke signals it sends up?
[17:58] <IT_Sean> the little smoke signals?
[17:58] <IT_Sean> If your Pi is smoking, you've killed it.
[17:59] <Froolap> yeah, as it starts melting and releases the magic smoke to terll you it's in trouble.
[17:59] <Bilby> my Pi is smoking but I'm trying to get it to quit
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[18:00] <Froolap> I know there's a low volt emblem that pops, up, I didn't know if there was an over volt warning that poped up....
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[18:01] <Froolap> I don't get it. might be my cables, but I get a low volt warning for about 1 second every time I boot.... then on occasion when I startx or start firefox.....
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[18:04] <Great-Geek> Froolap, Run a benchmark
[18:04] <Froolap> how?
[18:04] <Great-Geek> Froolap, Dunno, find anything that could run
[18:05] <Great-Geek> Froolap, Stress the machine any way you can
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[18:05] <Great-Geek> Froolap, I'm thinking it's that boost freq that the Pi has, that causes you to see the undervolt warning
[18:05] <Froolap> normally I'm headless. seems that pushing the gpu trips it
[18:06] <Froolap> hey did you get f22 working?
[18:06] <ThinkingofPython> Froolap, Normally your head is cut off/ :o
[18:06] <Froolap> yeah, I'm stew pit
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[18:07] <Great-Geek> Froolap, Not yet on the Pi. Still tweaking the laptop to run as fast as Arch
[18:08] <Froolap> I just got this for a power supply, and still seeing the low volt http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GTGETFG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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[18:20] <aRdoR> I am looking to have this made;
[18:20] <aRdoR> http://pastebin.com/gs6T4dwT
[18:20] <aRdoR> http://picpaste.com/image-YDiXOuL9.png
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[18:21] <H__> aRdoR: I hope you find someone here. (not me :)
[18:21] <aRdoR> right I have duckets
[18:21] <shiftplusone> (but don't spam the same thing over and over)
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[18:37] <Tenkawa> wow a 16 core kernel compile goes fast
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[18:45] <Great-Geek> Tenkawa, How many threads ?
[18:46] <Tenkawa> Great-Geek: just tested 16..testinb 24 now
[18:46] <Tenkawa> er testing
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[18:47] <Great-Geek> Tenkawa, How many do you have ?
[18:47] <Tenkawa> 4
[18:47] <Tenkawa> rpi2's
[18:48] <Tenkawa> 16 cores
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[18:48] <McBride36> the homeless get apple cores for free
[18:49] * shiftplusone wonders if Apple will jump the bandwagon a make a cheap SBC called Core. >.>
[18:50] <Scunizi> I just got a usb dongle up and running for the OS on the Pi2. formatted ext4 but permissions are wonky. sudo, sudo su are denied. can't really do *anything* with the file system. What's the solution?
[18:50] <Bilby> shiftplusone the answer is: they should, but they won't. because it wouldn't be pretty enough
[18:50] <Great-Geek> Scunizi, Do you know the root password?
[18:51] <shiftplusone> Bilby: Well, following their design philosophy, it would still cost more than a regular desktop, have a proprietary power input and have no other ports on it at all.
[18:51] <IT_Sean> ^
[18:51] <Bilby> that sounds right
[18:51] <Scunizi> Great-Geek: yep..
[18:51] <shiftplusone> Still would be worth it for the product name
[18:51] <Great-Geek> Scunizi, So.. Can't you login as root?
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[18:51] <Bilby> and all of the fanbois would hail it as the greatest breakthrough in computing since the invention of the iPad
[18:52] <Scunizi> Great-Geek: I was intially able to login to the pi when the os was running just off the SD card. After copying it to usb and setting /boot and Fstab up, rebooting and logging into the pi via ssh, password doesn't work. NO root access at all..
[18:52] <Great-Geek> Scunizi, And add yourself yo sudoers (probably need to add account to group 'wheel')
[18:52] <Bilby> honestly if there was a good way to interface iPhones / iPads to other devices they'd be a decent little SBC already. it's kind of what like an android phone can do
[18:52] <Froolap> hmmmm, I'm not able to force it into low volt warning when pegging all cpu to 900mhz when compressing a 6 gig file and startx and start firefox.....
[18:52] <Tenkawa> 7 minutes
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[18:52] <Tenkawa> not bad with no tweaking/ttuning
[18:53] <Scunizi> Great-Geek: without root access there's no way to add myself to anything
[18:53] <Froolap> maybe the low-volt during boot is just a momentary lag while the charger wakes up the port. thoughts? opinions? rotten fruit?
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[18:56] <Great-Geek> Scunizi, Boot from sdcard
[18:56] <Great-Geek> Scunizi, SSH as root. Mount USB, chroot.
[18:57] <Great-Geek> Scunizi, Add yourself to wheel and allow root login
[18:58] <Scunizi> Great-Geek: that's the only way to boot.. isn't USB already mounted to get the system up and running? Also, there's only one accuont isn't there.. initially? "pi"?
[18:58] <Great-Geek> Scunizi, What i mean is reflash original image to another sdcard and boot from that
[18:59] <Great-Geek> Scunizi, So that you have root access
[19:00] <Scunizi> Great-Geek: ah.. ok. the os is still on the sd card. I can just change the /boot cmd?.text file so it uses it and go from there. After it's working switch perameters back to the usb and hopefully fly. thanks.
[19:01] <Scunizi> Great-Geek: imaging takes a l o n g time even with dd
[19:01] <Great-Geek> Scunizi, Weird, imaging fedora takes no longer than 5 minutes
[19:02] <Scunizi> Great-Geek: you might have a newer system.. mine's just an older amd dual core w/ 8gigs ram and usb 2.0
[19:02] <Froolap> blink????
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[19:03] <Froolap> it takes over an hour on my pi.
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[19:04] <Scunizi> Great-Geek: I'm 40 minutes into rsyncing just the os from one usb stick to anther.. :(
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[19:10] <linuxthefish> grr why is the compiler for rpi-source buggy?
[19:10] <linuxthefish> "arch/arm/kernel/asm-offsets.c:53:2: error: #error Your compiler is too buggy; it is known to miscompile kernels"
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[19:13] <Froolap> ok, so I guess the pi does give over current warnings. now i know how to create an over current condition that crashes my system.
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[19:15] <Great-Geek> Froolap how ?
[19:16] <Froolap> plug in a ibm travelstar 25 gig 5v 500ma hard drive converted to usb directly into the pi while running the edimax wifi dongle with keyboard/mouse connected to my kvm.
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[19:17] <Froolap> I was trying to push the limites and see if the problem was my cable or the power supply giving the low volt warning.... I have a powered hub (currently connected) that I would normally plug a hard drive into.....
[19:18] <linuxthefish> how can i change to 3.6.11 kernel?
[19:19] <Froolap> well i suppose the over current warning was that the combined usb products was pulling more current than specs allow for.
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[19:22] <Scunizi> Great-Geek: while experimenting, I rebooted the pi with just the SD card and the original image of the os. So the SD card has /boot and the OS partition with no usb stick attached.. root functions just fine. Which makes me wonder why copying the OS to USB would effect any changes to root.
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[19:23] <Froolap> h...... kde is going to be big
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[19:24] <Great-Geek> Scunizi, is fstab set up to use usb wherever possible? I'm thinking you got stuck somewhere halfway
[19:26] <Scunizi> Great-Geek: with the usb in I make one change in fstab to reflect where the OS is.. /dev/sda1.. took me a day to get that working correctly on the pi2 as I had to change "diskwait" to diskwait=30
[19:26] <Scunizi> Great-Geek: of course there is also the same change in /boot cmd?.txt file
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[19:30] <Great-Geek> Scunizi, How did you create this usb , are all perms set up properly?
[19:30] <Scunizi> Great-Geek: I did check that and permissions were set to root:root like normal. I was root when I copied the files across.
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[19:32] <Great-Geek> Scunizi, why didn't you just dd the usb ?
[19:32] <Great-Geek> Scunizi, would've set up a proper environment
[19:33] <Scunizi> Great-Geek: mostly because the USB is 15 gigs and dd-ing would result in a 3 gig partition that I would have to expand. Last time I tried that it took hours.
[19:34] <old-papa-work> Hi all, I'm new to the Pi B and I have a question...
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[19:35] <old-papa-work> Can this be used as a Video Generator with a display of 1024x 1024..
[19:35] <old-papa-work> And most of all, where do I start.. Been using Arduino/Teensy's
[19:36] <old-papa-work> And I'm hope I'm on the right channel
[19:36] <Scunizi> old-papa-work: motion is the program you might want to try. The B is slower than the Pi2 so you might not get that resolution. Motion can do timelapse, motion detection, video and jpg capture
[19:37] <old-papa-work> As an output?
[19:37] <old-papa-work> And TY for helping
[19:38] <Scunizi> old-papa-work: yep.. all output to a file(s). you can even monitor the direct streem from another computer on the LAN using a brower..
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[19:38] <Scunizi> *browser
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[19:38] <old-papa-work> Ok, Ty again, I will look this up..
[19:40] <Scunizi> old-papa-work: works with webcams too.. https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/780055-how-to-operate-linux-spycams-with-motion
[19:40] <old-papa-work> Thats input I think, I just need to output..
[19:40] <old-papa-work> Will be use to display boxes on the screen for a touchscreen test..
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[19:41] <Scunizi> old-papa-work: ah I see what you're getting at.. motion won't do that.. sorry for the confusion.. no idea what you need for software now.
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[19:42] <old-papa-work> Ok, I will dig thru Google.. I still need to learn how to use this thing.. Need SD card I guess.. Need to check Sparkfun, thats where I got it, I think they have steps to do stuff..
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[19:44] <Scunizi> old-papa-work: are you semi proficient w/ linux? you won't have much issue with the pi. Don't know linux? You'll have a learning curve just for that.
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[19:56] <day> is it possible to mirror the two status leds onto gpio pins?
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[19:57] <shiftplusone> day: could you provide more info? What for?
[19:57] <day> to drive an external led instead of the ones onboard
[19:57] <shiftplusone> so why two?
[19:57] <day> because there are two onboard, and my case happens to have two leds
[19:58] <shiftplusone> Oh, the pwr one isn't really a status LED
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[19:58] <day> true
[19:58] <Bilby> You could set a script on bootup that turned on a GPIO pin
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[19:58] <shiftplusone> well, I suppose it is, but I see what you mean.
[19:58] <day> yeah the power led is simple
[19:58] <Bilby> that would tell you if the Pi was properly booted - better than the pwr pin, even
[19:58] <shiftplusone> you can use device tree to change the status pin location
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[19:59] <shiftplusone> and the power led... not sure if there's a way to tap into that. It's a voltage monitor connected to a gpio pin,
[19:59] <shiftplusone> so you could set up an interrupt on the power signal and do whatever you want with that on a GPIO pin
[19:59] <day> well i can just grab the voltage from the 3.3V header that one is really simple i guess. the other one is more difficult
[20:00] <shiftplusone> the voltage one isn't the same as the 3.3v header
[20:01] <shiftplusone> act_led_gpio is what you're after for the ACT LED
[20:01] <shiftplusone> https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/blob/master/boot/overlays/README
[20:02] <shiftplusone> you can change pwr_led_gpio, but that won't be useful to you, because the actual signal will still be connected to the other LED
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[20:03] <day> well apparently its a 5V check led, that blinks if the voltage drops
[20:03] <day> connecting it to the 3.3V header should be sufficient for my purpose (knowing that the voltage is fine)
[20:04] <shiftplusone> not really
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[20:04] <shiftplusone> the 3.3v voltage can be perfectly fine to light up an LED while the 5V voltage is low enough to cause crashiness
[20:05] <day> i dont think there will be a case of not enough voltage :P either 1 or 0
[20:05] <shiftplusone> there usually is... it's like the most common problem people have
[20:05] <day> most people dont use a 4A psu
[20:06] <shiftplusone> Ah well, I just think that it's a useless LED to have
[20:07] <day> it probably is. maybe i find something nicer in the device tree
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[20:10] <shiftplusone> I'd mirror that LED in code.
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[20:16] <Bilby> honestly i think a "this has booted" led is better than the PWR one
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[20:18] <shiftplusone> Good idea
[20:23] <ozzzy> wouldn't be hard to rig
[20:24] <Great-Geek> If you wanna hook up a power led, I'd suggest going in parallel with the current one or something..
[20:24] <Great-Geek> Rather than doing it in software
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[20:24] <Great-Geek> Mostly to see when the pi has powered down correctly
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[20:26] <Tenkawa> uggh
[20:27] <Tenkawa> this weather :(
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[20:28] <Tenkawa> anyone familiar with another decent/good arm notebook besides the chromebook?
[20:30] <old-papa-work> Scunizi, learning curve, yes..
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[20:37] <Tenkawa> wow quiet afternoon
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[20:48] <Bilby> Tenkawa it's been a busy day on this side :|
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[20:49] <Tenkawa> Bilby: makes for a quicker feeling day though right?
[20:50] <Bilby> Uuh... sometimes?
[20:50] <Tenkawa> heheh i hear ya
[20:50] <Tenkawa> i'm just waiting to see if we get another deluge again later
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[20:51] <ozzzy> deluge is decent software
[20:54] <Bilby> Did it rain earlier? Up until about noon i was in blackout mode
[20:54] <Tenkawa> no.. last night
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[20:55] <Bilby> I don't get out much ;__;
[20:55] <Tenkawa> bummer
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[21:03] <Tenkawa> is there any documentation out there on the start_*.elf files in /boot?
[21:05] <shiftplusone> what do you want to know?
[21:05] <Froolap> everything
[21:06] <shiftplusone> 42
[21:07] <Tenkawa> shiftplusone: just what their usage is and controlling them
[21:07] <Tenkawa> i think they are related to vc right?
[21:07] <shiftplusone> they're the actual firmware
[21:07] <shiftplusone> that runs on vc
[21:07] <Tenkawa> ah
[21:07] <Tenkawa> cool
[21:08] <shiftplusone> start.elf is the default one, start_x.elf has extra things needed for the camera and such. start_cd.elf is a cutdown version used for NOOBS.
[21:08] <Tenkawa> i see
[21:08] <Tenkawa> so for headless i really could use _cd
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[21:09] <shiftplusone> probably
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[21:15] <Bilby> Ugh. Sometimes it's frustrating when you have no idea why turning something off and back on fixed it :|
[21:15] <tawr> heh
[21:16] <tawr> powercycling is going to end up being some weird macroscale quantum weirdness
[21:16] <tawr> just watch
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[21:17] <Bilby> I -think- this might be related to changing which device is running the DHCP server
[21:17] <Bilby> I had it running on a Diskstation, but moved it to a router / firewall
[21:17] <tawr> no, quantum weirdness!
[21:20] <Bilby> probably that too :|
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[21:24] <aRdoR> I am looking to have this made
[21:24] <aRdoR> will pay http://pastebin.com/gs6T4dwT
[21:24] <aRdoR> http://picpaste.com/image-YDiXOuL9.png
[21:27] <tawr> that's a rather complicated way to multibox in wow, aRdoR
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[21:28] <aRdoR> wow as in world of warcraft?
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[21:28] <tawr> yes
[21:29] <aRdoR> *wink
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[21:51] <adabo> Greetings :)
[21:51] <adabo> Perhaps someone could point me in the right direction, before I make too much of a fool of myself
[21:51] <pmumble> o/
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[21:52] <adabo> Planning on my first raspberrypi build (Canakit complete). It's sole use if for my grandmother to stream videos from a website. But I need to remote into it so I can make changes on a daily basis.
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[21:53] <adabo> Which OS is most suited for this? Seems I found 4 or so. Arch, RISC, Raspbian, Pidora
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[21:54] <pmumble> you might need to do some testing with various apps and os's to find one that streams smoothly. what is the streaming mechanism?
[21:55] <day> adabo: how would risc be a good idea for that :D
[21:55] <day> just put debian onto it and you are done :/
[21:55] <pmumble> videos will play on youtube, for example, but they stutter a bit for me on raspbian
[21:56] <day> i doubt another OS will increase your performance noticable
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[21:57] <adabo> Oh nice, thank you all :)
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[21:57] <day> well at least not another linux flavour
[21:58] <adabo> day: As i said, it's my first build. I don't know what I'm doing, so I'm here for the assistance. And if RISC is the wrong OS, then whatever you suggest I will do.
[21:58] <day> what do you hope to get from RISC?
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[21:58] <adabo> Planning on my first raspberrypi build (Canakit complete). It's sole use if for my grandmother to stream videos from a website. But I need to remote into it so I can make changes on a daily basis.
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[21:59] <day> i saw that. its just theres nothing that screams 'you should not use linux'
[21:59] <adabo> I will connect the RP to her TV. Then open a webbrowser to the desired site. Then press play on the videos she wants to watch.
[21:59] <day> i wouldnt use something special if you do not have personal access to the unit
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[22:00] <adabo> Is RISC not linux? As I've said. I don't want to make too much of a fool of myself. This is literally my introduction to the RP world.
[22:00] <pmumble> not linux
[22:00] <day> ahh i thought that would be clear
[22:00] <day> my bad
[22:01] <adabo> day: hahah :) You may need to think lower of me. Think... think child. Little child with spoon that I can barely manage on my own. Food all over my mouth and bib, and none in my mouth :)
[22:03] <doomlord> RISC OS ... original archimedes OS, for the original ARM
[22:03] <adabo> I guess I should have said I've never ran Linux (aside from android). However I've dabbled with cygwin a tad while using Git a while back, but I forgot almost everything.
[22:03] <lala> Hello everyone. I'm looking for an easy quick-buy solution of a Raspberry Pi 2 Model B with a built-in case and a built-in screen and built-in WiFi, and preferably also a built-in battery.
[22:04] <doomlord> call it Risc-OS
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[22:04] <doomlord> does anyone here use riscOS? its just for nostalgia, right?
[22:05] <adabo> So the conclusion for me is debian? How would I remote in? Oh nevermind, I think that's probably outside the scope of this #.
[22:05] <day> ssh
[22:05] <pmumble> he wants to remote in and start a video in a web browser
[22:05] <adabo> Isn't ssh command line driven? Or am I mistaken? I was thinking something along the lines of TeamViewer.
[22:06] <adabo> pmumble: ^ yes. Exactly.
[22:06] <day> hm. makes me wonder is it possible to start firefox from an ssh terminal and force it to open on the xdesktop ?
[22:07] <pmumble> and control the window geometry, etc? i dunno
[22:07] <day> i know that its possible to do firefox www.google.com or similar
[22:07] <pmumble> honestly you might want to experiment with video framerates and stuff before you get too deep with this. the rpi isn't that fast.
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[22:08] <pmumble> i can't bear to watch videos on it
[22:08] <day> as an alternative, the cheapest intel nuc should do it
[22:08] <adabo> pmumble: Oh... you mean my idea is a failure at launch? As in the streaming videos on the Pi won't look good?
[22:09] <pmumble> i agree, i would look at cheaps nucs and other nuc competitors
[22:09] <adabo> day: True. I love my current nuc. But $70 Pi sounds so tempting.
[22:09] <pmumble> personally i have a gigabyte brix, it was $99 (sans memory and hd), and would be plenty powerful for this
[22:10] <adabo> In all honesty, my grandmother's eyesight is terrible. She literally can not tell the difference from SD or HD.
[22:10] <adabo> Smoothness is not emperitive, but if it's like a slideshow, then yes, a NUC would be fine.
[22:10] <pmumble> well i just tested trying to play a youtube video in iceweasel at 360p, and it stutters unless the window is really tiny
[22:11] <day> maybe at tsome point mangas become animes :O
[22:11] <adabo> :)
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[22:11] <adabo> Hmmm, this is all very enlightening. I always thought the Pi was like a cheap HTPC alternative
[22:12] <adabo> Just not enough horse power, eh?
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[22:13] <adabo> I find it odd that the RaspberryPi can be used for retro video game emulation, but not youtube.
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[22:14] <pmumble> well there are operating systems that are optimized for video and audio that the pi can run. i think it can do so in that use case
[22:14] <pmumble> but on top of linux i don't know
[22:14] <pmumble> (you wouldnt be able to remote in)
[22:14] <pmumble> i havent used those.. the media center os's
[22:16] <pmumble> i think the idea with the pi is it's more of a learning aid for programming and interacting with other hardware, with the benefit of being able to run a full operating system like linux to take advantage of high level languages like python and other services
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[22:16] <adabo> pmumble: That's true. I was just discussing that with my dad a few moments ago.
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[22:17] <adabo> Made for tinkerers in mind, but it just got so popular with it's possibilites.
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[22:18] <adabo> I'll look into the Media center OSes.
[22:18] <doomlord> youtube is limited by the browser implementation
[22:18] <doomlord> you can still donload and watch videos, i'm told
[22:19] <doomlord> rpi video playback is just fine
[22:19] <doomlord> its a software issue
[22:20] <doomlord> there's a smoother desktop UI possible too using hardware windowing
[22:20] <adabo> doomlord: Understood. My options are limited, however. The stream is a live broadcast and it's something I need to walk away from with little maintenance.
[22:21] <doomlord> its' a shame, i kind of ran into it myself, but it doesn't make me dissapointed with the Pi at all
[22:21] <doomlord> tonne of uses and very low power
[22:22] <pmumble> its hard to beat for the price :)
[22:22] <pmumble> there are a few rpi clones that are faster
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[22:22] <day> would be awesome if the gpu was replaced by more cpu power :p
[22:22] <pmumble> not sure if those could solve the problem for a similar pricepoint
[22:22] <pmumble> some other people in this channel have experience with them
[22:22] <doomlord> i think its' got a good balance cpu/gpu
[22:23] <day> well ive no use for the gpu
[22:23] <niston> maybe you can hack the GPU to run a softcpu? :>
[22:23] <doomlord> been through this mental process with intel iGPUs. you have to accept, when the bit you dont want isn't being used, its' saving energy
[22:24] <doomlord> its not consuming watts.. watts are what really matter
[22:24] <doomlord> supposedly the intel iGPU comes with embedded memory that serves as a bigger CPU cache when you're not using it..
[22:25] <doomlord> maybe the rPI SOC has shared cache between CPU & GPU too, so when not using the GPU your CPU gets that resource
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[22:26] <doomlord> i really should get myself sorted wiht the right cable with the right monitor in the right place to actually use my RPI
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[22:36] <lala> Where can I can a Raspberri Pi 2 Model B case with a built-in screen?
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[22:38] <fyrril> Question: will a bad USB port still show up on lsusb
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[22:40] <DoctorD90> lala try to explain you better please :)
[22:40] <DoctorD90> fyrril: what do you mean with BAD USB? :)
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[22:43] <fyrril> well I have a USB wifi dongle attached, but in the bottom port (pi 1 model B) I get no response, in the top I get a light and some action
[22:43] <lala> DoctorD90: I would like to purchase a Raspberry Pi 2 Model B. But before I do so, I would like to find a case that I can put the Raspberry Pi 2 Model B inside. I would like this case to have a small built-in screen that I can use so that I don't need to use an HDMI connection to see what is going on.
[22:44] <lala> DoctorD90: This little screen should be able to at least show the Terminal.
[22:44] <lala> DoctorD90: This is so I can use the terminal and whatnot.
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[22:45] <lala> DoctorD90: It would be awesome if the case had the built-in screen, because everything would be in a nice little package.
[22:45] <lala> DoctorD90: Optionally, it would also be nice if I can fit a battery onto it too.
[22:45] <pmumble> lala: http://shop.pimoroni.com/products/pitft-pibow
[22:45] <pmumble> closest thing ive seen
[22:45] <fyrril> lsusb shows two ports with nothing plugged in, so I'm not really sure if there's a better way to tell what's wrong with the port aside from plugging things in to see if it works.
[22:46] <pmumble> i have two of pimoroni's cases. they are awesome
[22:47] <lala> pmumble: Are you able to hook up some wireless antenna so that you can use your wireless conenction?
[22:47] <lala> connection*
[22:47] <pmumble> sure, just get any wifi usb dongle
[22:48] <lala> pmumble: How do you connect your keyboard and mouse?
[22:48] <pmumble> you can power it with a usb charger as well, but i haven't seen a case that integrates both
[22:48] <pmumble> i just ssh in from another machine
[22:48] <pmumble> im not using my pis like that
[22:48] <lala> pmumble: So you haven't seen a case that integrates both a battery and a display?
[22:49] <pmumble> only the pi-top, but thats a laptop
[22:49] <lala> pmumble: Hmm...
[22:49] <pmumble> i plan on attaching an lcd with buttons for a standalone project, but it will have limited input
[22:49] <lala> pmumble: I'm beginning to question what I would use this Raspberry Pi for...
[22:51] <pmumble> what were you intending to use it for?
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[22:52] <lala> pmumble: Well I wanted to use it to do some math stuff using Wolfram Mathematica, and some computation as well. Perhaps I would like to make it some kind of low-cost server so that I can keep certain processes running.
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[22:53] <pmumble> those are very different use cases, and neither implies being mobile
[22:54] <lala> pmumble: You're right.
[22:54] <lala> pmumble: I just thought the solution already exists.
[22:55] <lala> I suppose it still doesn't.
[22:55] <pmumble> there's the pi-top, arguably overpriced
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[22:56] <lala> pmumble: I've seen this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZkz_a52I6s
[22:56] <lala> pmumble: But I wasn't able to find the Atrix 4G Dock for around $60.
[22:57] <pmumble> true there's that too.. people use dock laptops
[22:57] <lala> pmumble: I found one that's double the price on Amazon, and that's just as expensive as a netbook.
[22:57] <DoctorD90> fyrril:
[22:57] <pmumble> they were on ebay for $40 when i checked
[22:57] <pmumble> just get a used one
[22:57] <DoctorD90> try that dongle on your normal pc. If it work, probably it is there something wrong with rpi usb port ;) faster test
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[23:00] <lala> pmumble: Okay. I have changed my mind.
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[23:00] <lala> pmumble: Are you able to find a Raspberry Pi 2 Model B case that has a built-in battery?
[23:00] <pmumble> lala: haven't seen one.
[23:01] <lala> pmumble: Are you able to do Raspberry Pi stuff using a netbook?
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[23:02] <pmumble> lala: i don't have a netbook
[23:02] <pmumble> lala: i just have my two pis hooked up to a KVM
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[23:03] <pmumble> lala: i have a USB charger that serves as a battery pack if i want to bring my pi with me somewhere, and if i cant get on a network i use a usb console cable from my laptop
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[23:04] <lala> pmumble: What does a USB console cable do?
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[23:04] <fyrril> DoctorD90: Yes, it works in one of the Pi USB ports but not the other. I'm just trying to figure out what might be wrong with the one it doesn't work in.
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[23:05] <pmumble> lala: it allows you to log in via a terminal, like you would over ssh
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[23:05] <pmumble> lala: which is enough to configure the network or whatever
[23:05] <fyrril> DoctorD90: I wouldn't think lsusb would show the port at all if it wasn't getting power. So I am not sure what to try next.
[23:05] <lala> pmumble: Oh, are you able to get internet though that, if your laptop is connected to the network?
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[23:06] <DoctorD90> fyrril: put in it a usb memory device :)
[23:06] <pmumble> lala: no, i would use a wifi usb dongle on the pi. but if for some reason i needed to configure the network to connect, i could do so over the console cable
[23:06] <DoctorD90> if it works it is there a strange issue xP
[23:06] <pmumble> lala: once it's on the network i can use VNC if i want a desktop, but i usually just ssh
[23:07] <fyrril> DoctorD90: lol
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[23:07] <Smrtz> What's the recommended way to make an rPi battery powered?
[23:07] <Froolap> Get the jumpper cables from your car and then....
[23:08] <Smrtz> Is there anything better than just gutting a USB cable, and hooking that up to a proper power supply?
[23:08] <pmumble> Smrtz: plug in a battery that can deliver >1.5A at 5V :)
[23:08] <Froolap> better to have a battery that has regulated output.
[23:08] <Smrtz> pmumble, I've got the power draw worked out, I'd just like something, cleaner, than hooking it into the +/- of the usb port.
[23:09] <Froolap> hook it into the 5v and ground of the hard drive power cable. :P
[23:09] <pmumble> Froolap is your man. he's all up in the usb power world right now. i defer.
[23:09] <Froolap> no, not me... I'm running head first into the nearest 3 walls on power.
[23:10] <Smrtz> Heh, that seems right.
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[23:10] <Froolap> man, unlimited power corrupts absolutely.
[23:11] <Froolap> I just got done repowering my 3 pi with an 8a charger. I dunno how stable it will be.
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[23:12] <pmumble> that was quick shipping
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[23:13] <Froolap> yup
[23:13] <kllrd> anyone know how well kodi runs on pi2 running rasbian?
[23:16] <Smrtz> I've got an SD card with an old rasbian installed, and a USB stick with a bootable rasbian installer on it. When I boot up the pi, it just boots to the SD card. How can I boot to the USB drive?
[23:17] <Smrtz> Any ideas?
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[23:22] <pmumble> Smrtz: i think you need to rig up the elf bootloader to handle it
[23:23] <pmumble> Smrtz: but i'm not versed in it. i think it must boot off the sdcard to use the bootloader, but then you can redirect to another partition
[23:23] <pmumble> Smrtz: i think the pi doesn't have firmware to boot off external media
[23:23] <pmumble> Smrtz: but i could be wrong
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[23:23] <Smrtz> pmumble, you're right, I just googled it.
[23:24] <Smrtz> I've got to install the new OS to the SD card, then put it in the pi.
[23:24] <Smrtz> I forgot that step.
[23:24] <Froolap> Smrtz: there's a way, just not that way..... do you have another linux machine?
[23:24] <pmumble> Smrtz: there is a file on that small boot partition called cmdline.txt, where it specifies a 'root' param
[23:24] <pmumble> that might be it, not sure
[23:25] <Froolap> it is a part of IT
[23:25] <Froolap> I don't think that the bootable installer stick is a good plan though......
[23:26] <pmumble> actually yeah there's probably more to it as i remember shortie saying that it's not just the kernel stored on that boot partition, but also the firmware or more. is beyond my knowledge.
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[23:26] <Froolap> that's going to be designed to install an operating system on boot..... not BE the operating system with users and stuff
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[23:27] <Froolap> I can tell ya how I run my system from usb..... but you need a second linux machine that can mount the sd card.
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[23:31] <Smrtz> Eh, don't worry about it.
[23:31] <Smrtz> Normally I'd be interested, but I just had a crappy day at work, and now I'm working on this for school and drinking, so I kinda just want to get it done.
[23:31] <Smrtz> I'm following some official documentation, so I'll get it done.
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[23:33] <DrLoki> "official" o_0
[23:34] <Smrtz> DrLoki, Seems official enough: https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/installation/installing-images/README.md
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[23:39] <DrLoki> Smrtz: oh yeah. been so long since I've actually used raspberrypi.org docs I literally completely forgot they had tutorial/how-to's on the site. lol
[23:39] <Smrtz> heh
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[23:40] <Smrtz> Once I get this up and running, I've got to set up automatic connection to a wifi network when it's in range.
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[23:40] <Smrtz> I'm planning on using connman, any other recommendations?
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[23:43] <DrLoki> connman should work...not sure of wicd or netifd status on pi. Actual connection to the wireless, or just recording of SSID?
[23:44] <Smrtz> Actual connection.
[23:44] <Smrtz> Then doing things with SCP, but that's just a python script.
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[23:44] <pmumble> on what dist?
[23:44] <kllrd> anyone know how to control kodi via a python script?
[23:44] <Smrtz> I'll be using Rasbian.
[23:44] <DrLoki> no authentication required to connect to the wireless sources?
[23:44] <pmumble> wpa_supplicant works fine out of the box on rasp
[23:45] <Smrtz> kllrd, I've got a bit of expereince with Python, but no idea what kodi is. I'll help if you need.
[23:45] <Smrtz> pmumble, will it automatically connect when a known SSID is in range?
[23:46] <Sonny_Jim> kodi is the new name for xbmc iirc
[23:46] <kllrd> kodi is the xbmc port for linux
[23:46] <pmumble> yep
[23:46] <Smrtz> Ahh, if you can get me started with your python, I can help fill in the blanks.
[23:46] <Smrtz> pmumble, Ahh, cool! I might need your help setting that up once I get everything else built.
[23:46] <DrLoki> oh, you want automatic connection to a KNOWN network, not to ANY network within range. My bad; misunderstood.
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[23:47] <Sonny_Jim> wpa_supplicant will automatically connect to a known network
[23:47] <pmumble> at least im pretty sure it does...
[23:47] <DrLoki> yes it will
[23:47] <DrLoki> assuming the configs are properly written
[23:47] <DrLoki> for the network
[23:47] <kllrd> Ill get back to ya in a bit, just curious if its possible to do. Im sure there is an addon i can add that will let me take input from various locations
[23:48] <Smrtz> kllrd, good luck.
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[23:48] <Smrtz> pmumble, DrLoki Cool, thanks!
[23:48] <azv3> Im trying to backup an image of my Pi2 using Win32Disk and I get, "Image file cannot be located on the target device", anyone know what I missed?
[23:49] <Smrtz> azv3, I don't think that'll work like you expect.
[23:49] <azv3> Smrtz, Im just following the directions
[23:49] <Smrtz> There's no 'image' on the pi, it's a file system.
[23:49] <Smrtz> azv3, link?
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[23:49] <azv3> http://computers.tutsplus.com/articles/how-to-clone-your-raspberry-pi-sd-cards-with-windows--mac-59294
[23:50] <Sonny_Jim> At a guess, you are probably trying to read an image rather than write it
[23:51] <Sonny_Jim> Err I mean, you've got read/write options mixed up
[23:51] <Smrtz> azv3, looks like that's a guide on how to clone an image from windows to the pi.
[23:51] <Smrtz> Like a newly downloaded distro.
[23:52] <Smrtz> Froolap, just explained another process to me in a /msg, I'd ask him to walk you through it.
[23:52] <azv3> a link would helkp
[23:52] <Smrtz> azv3, here you go
[23:52] <Smrtz> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/linux/filesystem/backup.md
[23:53] <Smrtz> scroll down until you see the section "SD CARD IMAGE"
[23:53] <azv3> I need a disk image
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[23:53] <Smrtz> azv3, that creates the image on the SD card.
[23:54] <Smrtz> boot up the pi, and run that command.
[23:54] <azv3> there wont be space
[23:54] <Smrtz> Then mount it in your windows environment, and grab it.
[23:54] <Smrtz> use a jump drive?
[23:54] <azv3> yea thats what Im trying to figure out how to do
[23:54] <azv3> anything, whatever works
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[23:54] <azv3> the more automated the better
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[23:55] <Smrtz> sudo dd bs=4M if=/dev/sdb of=/mnt/usb_thing/raspbian.img
[23:55] <azv3> surprised someone hasnt made a program that one points to the Pi2 from Windows and it just grabs an image that can easily be restored
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[23:55] <Smrtz> you might have to change /mnt/usb_thing, and /dev/sdb
[23:55] <azv3> no idea to what
[23:55] <Smrtz> Ok, let's start at the top
[23:55] <Smrtz> boot up the pi.
[23:55] <azv3> i9t is
[23:55] <Smrtz> And mount a jump drive.
[23:55] <azv3> can it be formatted for windows already?
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[23:56] <Smrtz> That might complicate things.
[23:56] <Smrtz> grab an empty one.
[23:56] <azv3> dont have one
[23:57] <Smrtz> copy the data to your windows computer, and then use that one
[23:57] <azv3> working on it
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[23:57] <Smrtz> The current formatting doesn't matter, but it'll all be erased.
[23:59] <azv3> ok
[23:59] <azv3> how can I see list of available devices?
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[23:59] <Smrtz> Back in the pi?
[23:59] <Smrtz> ls /mnt/
[23:59] <Smrtz> if it auto mounted.

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