#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2015-05-29

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[0:01] <ShorTie> really, partprobe and you don't need to reboot http://linux.die.net/man/8/partprobe
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[0:02] <niston> Encapsulation sup dude
[0:02] <niston> did the spare isolator finally arrive?
[0:02] <Ryccardo> it's an initscript, if you don't reboot you'll want to change runlevel (or manually run the command, heh)
[0:03] <Froolap> is there a repo I should add so that yum provides raspi-config will return a package to install?
[0:03] <parco> i don't mind rebooting
[0:03] <parco> i'm just trying to avoid using the raspi-config menu over an SSH connection
[0:03] <ShorTie> Froolap, you could git clone or wget it
[0:04] <ShorTie> it's just a script
[0:04] <Encapsulation> hey niston, still waiting =S
[0:04] <_X_C_V_B_> I'm trying to get audio working on the raspberry pi
[0:04] <_X_C_V_B_> I can play audio as root but not as pi
[0:04] <_X_C_V_B_> I can record audio as pi but not as root
[0:04] <Encapsulation> when he doesnt reply about support its frustrating, when he doesnt reply about paid items... =\
[0:04] <_X_C_V_B_> explain
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[0:04] <Encapsulation> _X_C_V_B_, permissions problem
[0:05] <Froolap> only if I new an address and I was thinking there was a pi-update that would grab the most recent firmware or whatever.
[0:05] <Froolap> thought there was a repo for all things pi specific
[0:05] <ShorTie> that is rpi-update
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[0:05] <ShorTie> also on a github
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[0:06] <Froolap> i don't have an rpi-update, so thought there would be a repo for it
[0:06] <ShorTie> try ' wget https://github.com/asb/raspi-config/blob/master/raspi-config '
[0:06] <_X_C_V_B_> Encapsulation: well, why can't root record audio
[0:07] <_X_C_V_B_> It's suppose to do anything
[0:07] <Encapsulation> what aree you using to play and record with
[0:07] <Encapsulation> need a few more details I think
[0:08] <ShorTie> and ' wget https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-update/blob/master/rpi-update ', for that
[0:08] <_X_C_V_B_> Encapsulation: aplay and arecord
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[0:10] <shiftplusone> ShorTie: * https://github.com/RPi-Distro/raspi-config/raw/master/raspi-config
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[0:11] <shiftplusone> (but I don't know what the discussion is actually about)
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[0:11] <Froolap> ./raspi-config: line 4: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[0:11] <Froolap> ./raspi-config: line 4: `<!DOCTYPE html>'
[0:11] <ShorTie> he was l00kin for a way to get it for yum
[0:12] <shiftplusone> ShorTie: if you wget directly like you did, you'll end up with the HTML page
[0:12] <shiftplusone> you need that 'raw' bit.
[0:12] <ShorTie> oh, ok, sorry
[0:13] <shiftplusone> and we're trying to move the pi-specific stuff to https://github.com/RPi-Distro
[0:13] <ShorTie> or do it the right way with 'git clone'
[0:13] <shiftplusone> indeed
[0:14] <ShorTie> or download the zip
[0:14] <Froolap> I'm new to the wget git stuff..... there's not much for instructions for people that weren't born knowing how it works.
[0:14] <ShorTie> posibilities never end, lol.
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[0:18] <Encapsulation> what would you do with 4x 12v 12ah sealed lead acid batteries
[0:18] <ShorTie> https://github.com/RPi-Distro does sound cool to have everything in 1 place
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[0:20] <ShorTie> you could have a 12v 48ah battery pack or a 48v 12ah battery pack or a 24v 24ah battery pack
[0:21] <shiftplusone> melt the lead into and make a helmet
[0:21] * ShorTie snickers
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[0:36] <Froolap> I can't get the fbturbo to compile against a 3.18.7-506 kernel
[0:37] <shiftplusone> I don't think it compiles against a kernel O_o
[0:37] <Froolap> when I try to boot with the old one it complains about kernel mismatch and won't load.
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[0:38] <shiftplusone> O_o
[0:38] <shiftplusone> do you have the full output\
[0:38] <Froolap> trying to compile I get src is in a sub-dir but sub-dirs have been excluded.
[0:39] <Froolap> Not this second, but I can get it in a minute.....
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[0:47] <Froolap> ah.... my bad, had the wrong chip loaded us uname info was incorrect.
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[0:50] <Froolap> http://paste.fedoraproject.org/226727/32853399
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[0:51] <shiftplusone> yeah that's nothing to do with the kernel
[0:51] <shiftplusone> it's the X server it doesn't like
[0:51] <shiftplusone> module ABI major version (18) doesn't match the server's version (19)
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[0:56] <DoctorD90> shiftplusone: ?
[0:56] <shiftplusone> ?
[0:57] <DoctorD90> http://pastebin.com/FSdxQuEZ
[0:57] <Froolap> yeah well for whatever reason, I've spent the day trying to recompile it. test/Makefile.am:3: warning: source file '../src/sunxi_disp.c' is in a subdirectory,test/Makefile.am:3: but option 'subdir-objects' is disabled
[0:57] <DoctorD90> but in second example it has to be an error.....
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[0:58] <shiftplusone> Froolap: you're running pidora/fedora, right?
[0:58] <Froolap> yup
[0:58] <shiftplusone> Okay, nvrm. Can't help.
[0:59] <Froolap> trying to build a fedora image. I can get it to boot, but no gui
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[1:00] <shiftplusone> DoctorD90: it's a bit late where I am. Not in the helpful mood right now.
[1:00] <DoctorD90> shiftplusone: http://pastebin.com/FSdxQuEZ i go to sleep, let me know what do you think of it (i have to add that it read revision as previous version)
[1:00] <Froolap> if I could get the fbturbo to compile against Linux localhost 3.18.14-v7+ #792 SMP PREEMPT Sat May 23 16:19:32 BST 2015 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux we could move pidore forward
[1:00] <DoctorD90> me too xD
[1:01] <DoctorD90> 01:06 xD
[1:01] <DoctorD90> lets just bookmark
[1:01] <shiftplusone> Froolap: again though, it has nothing to do with the kernel. It's the version of X11 that it's not compatible with.
[1:01] <Froolap> and the sub-dirs
[1:01] <shiftplusone> Well, that warning looks rather benign, so I don't think that's a problem.
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[1:03] <Froolap> it prevents autoreconf and configure from being able to produce a makefile.
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[1:03] <shiftplusone> Do you have the full output? I don't think that's what's causing the problem
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[1:08] <Froolap> http://paste.fedoraproject.org/226733/85451614
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[1:10] <shiftplusone> is there a ./configure?
[1:14] <Froolap> yeah
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[1:14] <shiftplusone> does that run?
[1:15] <shiftplusone> autoconf does not produce the makefile directly, that's up to the configure script
[1:15] <shiftplusone> so what you're seeing is indeed just a warning
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[1:17] <shiftplusone> Feels good to void the warranty on a C64. >_<
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[1:18] <Froolap> it aborts...... http://paste.fedoraproject.org/226736/32855111
[1:19] <Froolap> ./configure: line 18142: syntax error near unexpected token `RANDR,' and ./configure: line 18142: `XORG_DRIVER_CHECK_EXT(RANDR, randrproto)'
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[1:20] * shiftplusone shrugs
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[1:20] <shiftplusone> I'd guess missing dependency
[1:20] <frankstallone> Is there are rasplex channel somewhere on IRC?
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[1:22] <Froolap> lots of gcc: fatal error: no input files which I suspect are linked to the earlier sub-dirs problem
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[1:26] <shiftplusone> that's normal... it's how configure tests for things.
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[1:34] <Froolap> so close
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[1:46] <|izzie> guys, anyone into pygames?
[1:46] <|izzie> why doesn't this work?
[1:46] <|izzie> http://pastebin.com/mc2HXrNH
[1:46] <|izzie> *hopeful look*
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[1:53] <FlyingPersian> hi. I just shutdown my raspbian, but the red LED is still on. that just means that it has power right?
[1:53] <FlyingPersian> I can plug it out without any fear of messing something up, correct?
[1:53] <FlyingPersian> the green LED is of
[1:53] <FlyingPersian> f
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[1:57] <pmumble> the green light flashes 10 times, then the red light will stay on but its safe to unplug
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[1:58] <FlyingPersian> well it wasn't flashing anymore, so I guess it was already done flashing
[1:59] <pmumble> just saying, its peace of mind for next time.
[1:59] <pmumble> the worst thing that can happen is corrupt your sd card :)
[2:00] <FlyingPersian> hm okay
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[2:00] <FlyingPersian> the OS starts automatically when I plug it back in, right?
[2:00] <pmumble> it should
[2:00] <FlyingPersian> red is constantly on, green is flashing
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[2:00] <FlyingPersian> it's been 3 mins now
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[2:01] <pmumble> you're watching the hdmi display?
[2:01] <FlyingPersian> naw don't have one :x
[2:01] <FlyingPersian> I'll buy a cable tomorrow
[2:01] <pmumble> console?
[2:01] <FlyingPersian> it's quite handy
[2:01] <pmumble> or just waiting for an ssh
[2:01] <FlyingPersian> do I have a console without display?
[2:01] <FlyingPersian> I'm waiting for SSH
[2:02] <pmumble> ah ok, maybe network config changed on you, hopefully thats all
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[2:02] <pmumble> yeah you can get a console cable
[2:02] <pmumble> usb -> serial, it plugs into the gpio
[2:02] <FlyingPersian> yeah I'm checking the IP now
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[2:02] <FlyingPersian> gpio?!
[2:02] <FlyingPersian> yeah new IP
[2:03] <pmumble> https://www.adafruit.com/products/954
[2:03] <pmumble> comes in handy
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[2:03] <FlyingPersian> gave it a static IP
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[2:04] <FlyingPersian> I think a HDMI cable will be easier
[2:04] <FlyingPersian> I can get one for 2� :D
[2:05] <pmumble> if you always have a monitor around, definitely. i like to bring my pi with me sometimes. a console cable and battery pack is enough to config it for whatever network from my laptop
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[2:06] <FlyingPersian> okay true
[2:06] <NedScott> That work on an average distro, like raspbian, without additional software, right? I think I read about how what works once, but it was a long time ago.
[2:06] <FlyingPersian> the console cable goes into a mainboard?
[2:07] <FlyingPersian> okay that's weird
[2:07] <pmumble> usb from your computer to a few gpio pins on the pi
[2:07] <FlyingPersian> I pre-assigned a DHCP IP in my router to the pi
[2:07] <pmumble> NedScott: the console cable?
[2:07] <NedScott> yeah
[2:07] <FlyingPersian> but in the device list it tells me a different IP and says "static adress"
[2:08] <FlyingPersian> seems like the pi configured a static IP?
[2:08] <pmumble> NedScott: you need putty for windows or screen for os x, and some serial drivers. all of which are free still i believe.
[2:08] <NedScott> ah
[2:08] <pmumble> (or screen for linux)
[2:08] <NedScott> but on the Pi side
[2:08] <NedScott> does it require any extra packages?
[2:08] <pmumble> not for linux
[2:08] <NedScott> nice
[2:08] <pmumble> you just need to change a few settings
[2:09] <FlyingPersian> https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Using_DHCP_to_automatically_configure_the_interface <-- none of this works -.-
[2:09] <Froolap> well, for whatever reason I'm not getting undervolt warnings when I have other pi running on my charger
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[2:09] <Froolap> if it's the only thing plugged in then yes I'll get an undervolt
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[2:19] <ahop> ShorTie: Is this needed, even if I do Jessie install?
[2:19] <ahop> ===> echo "deb http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian/ wheezy main" >> sdcard/etc/apt/sources.list
[2:21] <ahop> line 480 of your my_pi_os
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[2:37] <Tenkawa> whats new all?
[2:37] <Tenkawa> brb
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[2:38] <Tenkawa> thats better
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[2:43] <FlyingPersian> Tenkawa, do you know by any chance how to auto mount a CIFS share at boot?
[2:44] <FlyingPersian> tried adding a line to /etc/fstab, but it's not correct
[2:44] <FlyingPersian> /server/share /pathto/mountpoint cifs credentials=/home/username/.smbcredentials,uid=shareuser,gid=sharegroup 0 0
[2:44] <FlyingPersian> basically this line
[2:44] <FlyingPersian> .//server/share /pathto/mountpoint cifs credentials=/home/username/.smbcredentials,uid=shareuser,gid=sharegroup 0 0
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[2:48] <Triffid_Hunter> FlyingPersian: you need double slash at the start, ie //server/share cifs etc
[2:48] <FlyingPersian> yeah I know, it was an IRC fault
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[2:51] <pksato> FlyingPersian: try option auto
[2:51] <Triffid_Hunter> FlyingPersian: hm, works for me. you have verified those options from the cmdline right? mount -t cifs -o credentials=....,uid=... //server/share /mount/point ?
[2:52] <hmmwhatsthisdo> Who would like to help me get VNC working on my rPi?
[2:52] <Triffid_Hunter> FlyingPersian: another option is that the mount startup script differentiates between local mounts and network mounts, you might need to add netmount (or similarly named) service to your startup
[2:52] <pksato> to test fstab entry, just mount, mount point.
[2:52] <FlyingPersian> yes I just tried that line in ssh Triffid_Hunter
[2:52] <pksato> mount /pathto/mountpoint
[2:52] <FlyingPersian> I'm trying mount -a after I change the line
[2:53] <hmmwhatsthisdo> I wanted to get VNC to attach to lightdm for login, but I soon realized I have no idea what I'm doing
[2:54] <pksato> hmmwhatsthisdo: need to use x11vnc
[2:55] <hmmwhatsthisdo> pksato: and not tightvnc?
[2:55] <Triffid_Hunter> FlyingPersian: does it work with mount -a?
[2:55] <FlyingPersian> no
[2:55] <FlyingPersian> I couldn't find a line that works in fstab
[2:55] <pksato> yes.
[2:56] <pksato> x11vnc connect to running x11 session, not a new virtual.
[2:56] <hmmwhatsthisdo> pksato: any helpful guides on doing it? (I have some linux knowledge, but nothing nitty-gritty)
[2:57] <DrLoki> cd .irssi
[2:57] <DrLoki> ls
[2:57] <DrLoki> well fuck
[2:57] <pksato> sorry, I only give tips. :)
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[2:59] <pksato> which is sufficient to find sites like this, https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12356
[2:59] <hmmwhatsthisdo> pksato: so then, what would the process look like? I'd imagine I'd need to enable XDMCP in lightdm
[2:59] <pksato> install and start x11vnc
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[3:01] <hmmwhatsthisdo> pksato: and would that actually do login, or simply drop me into an X session on whatever user started the x11vnc process?
[3:01] <FlyingPersian> found the error Triffid_Hunter
[3:01] <FlyingPersian> it didn't accept the My\ Stuff/
[3:01] <pksato> I not have rpi running here, but have a notebook with debian, aptitude install x11vnc
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[3:02] <hmmwhatsthisdo> did that
[3:02] <hmmwhatsthisdo> I should add that, currently, my rPi is only configured to do text-mode login on boot (as I'm not going to always need a DM/WM)
[3:03] <FlyingPersian> nice it works
[3:04] <Triffid_Hunter> FlyingPersian: didn't see any escaped spaces in your example line above, that's typically problematic ;)
[3:04] <FlyingPersian> a \40 would have fixed that
[3:04] <FlyingPersian> I just removed it
[3:06] <pksato> and, run x11vnc as root, passing -auth authfile
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[3:07] <pksato> x11vnc -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0
[3:08] <hmmwhatsthisdo> is there a space in between / and :?
[3:08] <pksato> no
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[3:10] <pksato> and, from other computer, connect on port 5900
[3:11] <hmmwhatsthisdo> ...authfile?
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[3:12] <hmmwhatsthisdo> also it (x11vnc) failed, saying it couldn't open a display
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[3:14] <hmmwhatsthisdo> I should also add, pksato, that /var/run/lightdm/ doesn't exist
[3:15] <pksato> sorry, I only give tips. :)
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[3:18] <hmmwhatsthisdo> pksato: is it a bad idea to simply enable the VNC server in lightdm?
[3:21] <Froolap> FlyingPersian: you will need something in fstab that will delay the mount until ater the network is available. by default fstab tries to mount the disc before the net comes up.
[3:22] <FlyingPersian> it's all good Froolap
[3:22] <FlyingPersian> the issue was a \
[3:22] <Froolap> you got it werkin?
[3:22] <FlyingPersian> yes
[3:22] <FlyingPersian> my share's name was "My\ Stuff/Music"
[3:22] <FlyingPersian> the space in the name didn#t work like tha
[3:22] <FlyingPersian> t
[3:23] <Froolap> how did choo did it? I had to make a seperate script in rc.local with a 30 second sleep
[3:23] <FlyingPersian> idk maybe the network comes up fast
[3:23] <FlyingPersian> but
[3:23] <[Saint]> I think you can do it with "My#040Stuff/Music"
[3:23] <FlyingPersian> yes [Saint]
[3:23] <FlyingPersian> I figured that out after I treid it w/o space :D
[3:23] <[Saint]> or whatever the unicode string for space is, I forget.
[3:23] <FlyingPersian> _netdev delays it until the network coems u
[3:23] <FlyingPersian> up
[3:24] <FlyingPersian> actually \040 is sufficient
[3:24] <[Saint]> aha.
[3:24] <FlyingPersian> http://www.simpit.com/wordpress/?p=626
[3:24] <Froolap> =
[3:24] <FlyingPersian> *\04
[3:24] <[Saint]> I'm slightly disturbed that I remeber unicode assignments.
[3:24] <[Saint]> >.>
[3:24] <Froolap> what about ansi?
[3:25] <[Saint]> ...you're ansi.
[3:25] <Froolap> i'm only ansi when I expect my wife to come home soon.
[3:26] <Froolap> did I hide the beer?
[3:26] <[Saint]> http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/2361605/Sobs-as-boy-15-jailed
[3:26] <[Saint]> crap.
[3:26] <[Saint]> sorry.
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[3:31] <hmmwhatsthisdo> pksato: so I followed the guide, and unfortunately my rPi is still not accepting connections on ::5900
[3:32] <hmmwhatsthisdo> I'm wondering if me trying to fiddle around with XDMCP earlier might've broken something
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[3:59] <hmmwhatsthisdo> pksato: tried the command you provided, X11 wasn't able to open a display (probably because there wasn't a display to open). Tried it with -create, and it appears to work until I connect
[4:00] <hmmwhatsthisdo> the server says it can't find Xvfb, and Xauth throws an error about /root/.Xauthority not existing
[4:00] <hmmwhatsthisdo> thoughts?
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[4:06] <hmmwhatsthisdo> installing xvfb (apt-get is case sensitive?) lets me into the system, but I don't actually see lightdm, just a single X window of LXterminal
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[4:08] <hmmwhatsthisdo> pksato: your help would be appreciated
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[4:13] <[Saint]> hmmwhatsthisdo: what is it you're trying to achieve and what is the issue?
[4:13] <[Saint]> (my scrollback on mobile is cut off on this buffer for some reason)
[4:13] <hmmwhatsthisdo> I'd like to be able to connect to my rPi over VNC and get a lightdm login window
[4:13] <hmmwhatsthisdo> unfortunately, I have no idea what I'm doing
[4:14] <[Saint]> Starting from which distro as a base?
[4:15] <hmmwhatsthisdo> raspbian
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[4:15] <hmmwhatsthisdo> I should probably include that I'm trying to use xfce as a WM instead of LXDE/OpenBox
[4:16] <hmmwhatsthisdo> (though I'm not quite sure of the exact distinction between DMs and WMs, but I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually)
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[4:20] <hmmwhatsthisdo> it probably doesn't help that I have practically no idea what I'm doing
[4:20] <[Saint]> You mean DE vs. WM?
[4:20] <hmmwhatsthisdo> I suppose so, yes
[4:20] <pksato> hmmwhatsthisdo: sorry, I busy destroying my only chair.
[4:20] <[Saint]> One requires the other, but not necessarily vice versa.
[4:21] <[Saint]> Desktop Environment and Window Manager
[4:21] <[Saint]> lxde is the former, openbox the latter.
[4:21] <hmmwhatsthisdo> if I'm running XFCE, is it also using openbox?
[4:21] <[Saint]> That makes the specifics a little clearer, I hope, but not your issue.
[4:22] <CanDoo> hello
[4:22] <[Saint]> Yes.
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[4:22] <Triffid_Hunter> hmmwhatsthisdo: WM only manages program windows, DE provides libraries for programs to use, and typically includes a WM (although you don't have to use it)
[4:22] <hmmwhatsthisdo> I see.
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[4:22] <pksato> hmmwhatsthisdo: question. You want to access same screen/windows that see on direct connected monitor?
[4:23] <CanDoo> so can you PWM an output on a 74HCT595 from wiringPI?
[4:23] <hmmwhatsthisdo> so then, back to the issue at hand - x11vnc appears to at least load, but it's not loading lightdm - just a single X terminal window running under the context of the user that ran x11vnc to begin with
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[4:24] <pksato> CanDoo: what?
[4:24] <Triffid_Hunter> hmmwhatsthisdo: it has to invoke *something* as a child program, and it'll quit when the child program exits. sounds like it defaults to xterm if you don't tell it to invoke something specific
[4:24] <hmmwhatsthisdo> Triffid_Hunter: how do I tell it to invoke lightdm instead?
[4:25] <Triffid_Hunter> hmmwhatsthisdo: I use this fact to invoke games in a new X session without a window manager, so I can use the alt key
[4:25] <Triffid_Hunter> hmmwhatsthisdo: read its manual
[4:25] <hmmwhatsthisdo> (I'm almost tempted to reimage the SD card and start over, as I haven't exactly invested a ton of time into this)
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[4:29] <[Saint]> hmmwhatsthisdo: probably best.]
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[4:30] <CanDoo> i want to pwm the 74HCT595 shift register usieng wiringPI
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[4:31] <CanDoo> now wiringPI can operate the shift register fine
[4:31] <CanDoo> although high and low is all i can seem to set
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[4:31] <hmmwhatsthisdo> Is there some way to disable the current auto-login settings in lightDM?
[4:31] <CanDoo> you can't seem to set the shiftregister pins to pwm mode
[4:31] <hmmwhatsthisdo> IIRC it automatically logs into the pi user account
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[4:32] <[Saint]> rpi-config
[4:36] <hmmwhatsthisdo> [Saint]: that only allows for auto-login
[4:37] <hmmwhatsthisdo> rather, that only furnishes auto-login as a graphical login option, there's nothing saying "Boot and display lightDM"
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[4:40] <Triffid_Hunter> CanDoo: they don't have PWM mode
[4:40] <CanDoo> very sad
[4:40] <CanDoo> i wonder if i could do a soft pwm
[4:41] <CanDoo> by switing then pins on and off quickly
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[4:42] <plugwash> hmmwhatsthisdo, I don't think it's too hard to edit the lightdm configuration file directly
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[4:45] <hmmwhatsthisdo> so, /etc/lightdm.conf?
[4:45] <hmmwhatsthisdo> does that house autologin information?
[4:46] <hmmwhatsthisdo> or would that be passed as an argument to lightdm earlier up the chain?
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[4:47] <plugwash> i'm pretty sure the autologin stuff is in the lightdm config
[4:48] <ShorTie> ya,
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[4:49] <hmmwhatsthisdo> seems like most of it is commented out by default
[4:49] <hmmwhatsthisdo> including what little bits of autologin settings there are
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[4:51] <osxyer> just got a pi2...now waiting for it to get here ...can't wait to see difference with rp1
[4:51] <Tenkawa> osxyer: major
[4:52] <osxyer> openelec will run smoothly hopefully
[4:52] <Tenkawa> depending on what you use it for of course
[4:52] <abnormal> pi 2 is way faster
[4:52] <abnormal> and nicer
[4:52] <osxyer> I hope I don't get a board made in China.
[4:52] <osxyer> I ordered a case to go with it
[4:52] <atoms101> I am trying to upgrade from pi to pi 2, i followed the instructions option 3 at http://thepihut.com/blogs/raspberry-pi-tutorials/16982376-updating-raspbian-on-your-microsd-for-the-raspberry-pi-2 But it wont boot
[4:52] <abnormal> from where you order it?
[4:53] <Tenkawa> more robust and multi-function friendly is my descrip
[4:53] <atoms101> if i format the card with a new raspi image, it boots
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[4:53] <osxyer> buyapi.ca
[4:53] <abnormal> I see..
[4:53] <osxyer> im in canada
[4:53] <abnormal> if you got it from amazon.com it is made in the uK
[4:53] * Callmea (~Callmea4@mfl93-1-82-231-171-67.fbx.proxad.net) Quit (Quit: Quitte)
[4:54] <osxyer> well, amazon.com is US dollars and then costums fees
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[4:54] <osxyer> https://www.buyapi.ca/product/raspberry-pi-2-model-b-armv7-with-1g-ram/
[4:55] <osxyer> anyways, as long as it works.
[4:55] <osxyer> im happy :D
[4:55] <abnormal> ok sorry about that...
[4:56] <abnormal> just look on the board and it will tell you where it was made..
[4:56] <abnormal> I now have six pi's... whew
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[4:57] <osxyer> so if its made in china, its worse?
[4:58] <abnormal> no, not really... it depends on how you treat it...
[4:58] <abnormal> and how you use it...
[4:59] <osxyer> well, gonna put it in a case and then just install openelec
[4:59] <abnormal> treat it well and it will serve you well
[4:59] <abnormal> cool
[4:59] <osxyer> now im not sure what I will do with my rp1...ideas?
[4:59] <abnormal> lol
[4:59] <osxyer> is it fast enough for vpn?
[4:59] <abnormal> anything you like to do with it
[4:59] <abnormal> yes
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[5:00] <osxyer> so I can connect all my devices to it and then use it to connect to a vpn and then plug it in my router ?
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[5:01] <abnormal> you should be able to... but do it carefully
[5:01] <Tenkawa> abnormal: all 2's?
[5:01] <abnormal> no, sillie, I wish
[5:01] <Tenkawa> 4 2's here
[5:01] <osxyer> i have 0 knowledge of linux
[5:01] <Tenkawa> 5 more 1's around here
[5:01] <osxyer> what do you guys do with your rp1?
[5:02] <abnormal> I have A, 2 B, a B that is 256 mb, and B2
[5:02] <Tenkawa> osxyer: i do a lot of experimentinb
[5:02] <Tenkawa> er g
[5:02] <Tenkawa> abnormal: i'm trying to convince myself i want to add an odroid-c1 too
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[5:03] <Tenkawa> got a few bbb's hooked up tpo
[5:03] <abnormal> lol
[5:03] <Tenkawa> er too
[5:03] <osxyer> bittorrent server might be nice...
[5:03] <abnormal> odroid is from Korea
[5:04] <abnormal> I have one BBB
[5:04] <osxyer> the thing is I need to install a vpn
[5:04] <abnormal> ver 2
[5:04] <abnormal> uses Angstrom
[5:04] <Tenkawa> abnormal: nice
[5:04] * [Saint] wonders why people are still making that terrible WWII propaganda bullcrap about Chinese products being infrerior.
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[5:05] <abnormal> we not saint
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[5:05] <abnormal> sam sung is good to a point
[5:05] <[Saint]> The implication was definitely made.
[5:05] <abnormal> but not all of them
[5:06] <Tenkawa> umm samsung is korean isnt it?
[5:06] <abnormal> just like any product, some good some not so good..
[5:06] <[Saint]> Tenkawa: I believe so, yes.
[5:06] <Tenkawa> yeah.. plenty of bad equip here too
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[5:07] <abnormal> so, every corporation has its glory and issues...
[5:07] <Tenkawa> heheh
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[5:07] * [Saint] wonders why that particular piece of war time propaganda (because that's what it is) managed to last so long to the present day.
[5:08] <Tenkawa> well time to finish up for now... cheers all
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[5:08] <abnormal> good nite
[5:08] <abnormal> have fun
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[5:09] <osxyer> good night
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[5:35] <HotCoder> hey people. question. i plugged my android device into my raspberry pi 2 model b and i see nothing on my tight vnc server viewer. whats going on? i want to be able to access the files
[5:35] <HotCoder> inside the android device
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[5:36] <pksato> HotCoder: to access android files?
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[5:37] <HotCoder> yes i want to access the file system on my phone
[5:37] <pksato> or to android access rpi files?
[5:37] <HotCoder> internal memory
[5:37] <HotCoder> no no no
[5:37] <HotCoder> haha
[5:37] <HotCoder> i just want to enter the android file device from my raspbian operating system
[5:37] <HotCoder> file system*
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[5:37] <pksato> you not access.
[5:38] <HotCoder> and i use a tight vnc viewer
[5:38] <pksato> only shared files.
[5:38] <HotCoder> huh?
[5:38] <pksato> and, I not have android. :)
[5:38] <HotCoder> ah ok
[5:38] <pksato> recent versions use MTD, not usb storage to share files.
[5:38] <HotCoder> who here does?
[5:39] <pksato> mtd?
[5:39] <HotCoder> who here uses an android and connected to raspberry pi?
[5:39] <claudiop> Hi. I have a simple question not directly related to the PI (electronics), anyone knows any proper channel for it? Since you guys are into eletronics, probably at least one of you knows about such channel if it happens to exist :p
[5:39] <pksato> MTP
[5:40] <HotCoder> who is mtp
[5:40] <HotCoder> i want to talk to this person
[5:41] <pksato> http://www.howtogeek.com/192732/android-usb-connections-explained-mtp-ptp-and-usb-mass-storage/
[5:41] <HotCoder> ok
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[5:44] <HotCoder> pksato, ok so lets say i went mtp
[5:44] <HotCoder> if i go mtp will be pi detect it?
[5:46] <pksato> no. yes
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[5:47] <pksato> I dont know that is current way to access mtp
[5:47] <pksato> most filemanager have this protocol builtin.
[5:48] <HotCoder> ok
[5:48] <HotCoder> forget android
[5:48] <HotCoder> how would one access a normal usb stick on the pi?
[5:49] <HotCoder> pksato, just plug and play?
[5:49] <pksato> on rpi. no. need to manual mount.
[5:49] <HotCoder> how to do
[5:50] <pksato> sorry, I only give tips. :)
[5:50] <HotCoder> ok
[5:51] <HotCoder> so where is my tip then?
[5:51] <HotCoder> i usually get 5 dollars per conversation
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[5:51] <pksato> http://www.modmypi.com/blog/how-to-mount-an-external-hard-drive-on-the-raspberry-pi-raspian
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[6:06] <hmmwhatsthisdo> So, I seem to be getting somewhere
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[6:07] <hmmwhatsthisdo> the VNC server is at least accepting a connection, but I'm still not seeing the greeter
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[6:44] <NedScott> so I finally got one of those $10 GPIO LCD TFT screens in the mail
[6:44] <NedScott> now to see if it works
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[7:29] <hmmwhatsthisdo> so, I've almost got lightDM over VNC working
[7:29] <hmmwhatsthisdo> I think
[7:29] <hmmwhatsthisdo> ...but now the greeter won't show up
[7:30] <hmmwhatsthisdo> Does anyone have any ideas? It's rendering the correct background color, so I know it's at least trying, but I have no idea why the window proper isn't showing
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[7:33] * hmmwhatsthisdo vaguely remembers just how similar IRC is to talking to a brick wall
[7:34] <Xark> hmmwhatsthisdo: Sorry, but I haven't used lightDM (and barely VNC). Apparently no one else here either...
[7:38] <SirLagz> hmmwhatsthisdo: what vnc server are you using ?
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[7:43] <tawr> hi guys
[7:43] <SirLagz> hi
[7:43] <tawr> hmmwhatsthisdo, do you remember sitting back and not responding because it wastes everyone's time because you have no idea the answer to the question as well?
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[8:38] <Froolap> blink
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[9:34] <ahop> ShorTie: I have a last little problem with chroot, why does "chroot sdcard cd /root ; git clone https://github.com/superquadratic/rtmidi-python.git ; cd rtmidi-python ; python setup.py install ; cd .. ;" fail ?
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[10:09] <linuxthefish> wow the rpi b+ only uses 230ma compared to the 500ma from the raspberry pi 1 :O
[10:10] <linuxthefish> if i remove my wireless card it goes down to 180 :p
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[10:14] <ShorTie> mornin
[10:14] <linuxthefish> hi
[10:17] <Armand> Moaning
[10:17] <ShorTie> ahop, moved my_pi_os up to github and added alsa option https://github.com/ShorTie8/my_pi_os
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[10:35] <Froolap> [ 22.932] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 18.0
[10:35] <Froolap> [ 22.932] (EE) module ABI major version (18) doesn't match the server's version (19)
[10:36] <Froolap> [ 22.932] (II) UnloadModule: "fbturbo"
[10:36] <ShorTie> ya, wheezy uses 12 and jessie uses 18
[10:37] <ShorTie> you need to recompile it against the newer X
[10:38] <ShorTie> haven't tried it, but this might work for you https://github.com/RPi-Distro/xf86-video-fbturbo/tree/debian
[10:39] <shiftplusone> he's on fedora
[10:39] <Froolap> I've been trying to recompile fbturbo, but.... I don't have vast expierence with compiling stuff.
[10:39] <ShorTie> ya, thats right
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[10:39] <shiftplusone> don't think the debian packaging stuff will help much
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[10:40] <ShorTie> true true
[10:40] <Froolap> someone likely knows what is needed to fix it....
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[10:41] <ShorTie> give me a sec to find my notes and i'll make sumfin up for you to try
[10:42] <ShorTie> here is what you need https://github.com/ssvb/xf86-video-fbturbo
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[10:50] <ShorTie> sorry, but being on fedora, you gonna have to figure out your own dependacies and how to get them
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[11:08] <Froolap> it might help if I knew what the known dependencies are.... package names might be different..... but that might bo more solvable than trying to figure the dependencies by reading the source code.
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[11:10] <ShorTie> on there is a howto wiki that list the dependencies, they are debian so you need to find the fudura ones
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[11:11] <ShorTie> https://github.com/ssvb/xf86-video-fbturbo/wiki/Installation
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[11:41] <shiftplusone> gah... what the hell does this mean... 3>&1 1>&2 2>&3
[11:41] <Armand> It means you failed maths.
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[11:42] * ShorTie snickers
[11:42] <shiftplusone> >_<
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[11:43] <ShorTie> it might help if we knew more of what your doing .. :/~
[11:43] <shiftplusone> probably not
[11:44] <shiftplusone> it's scattered all over https://github.com/RPi-Distro/raspi-config/blob/master/raspi-config
[11:44] <DaylightOwl> it redirects stderr to stdin, stdin to stdout and stdout to stderr
[11:44] <shiftplusone> why?
[11:44] <DaylightOwl> I don't know why they use stdin
[11:44] <DaylightOwl> swapping stderr and stdout can be useful depending on the program
[11:44] <DaylightOwl> can you give the full line?
[11:45] <shiftplusone> an example... NEW_HOSTNAME=$(whiptail --inputbox "Please enter a hostname" 20 60 "$CURRENT_HOSTNAME" 3>&1 1>&2 2>&3)
[11:46] <shiftplusone> hmm http://www.reddit.com/r/commandline/comments/1gjq6s/bashlinuxconfusion_about_31_12_23_in_script/
[11:46] <DaylightOwl> Ah it is because it is assigned to a variable
[11:46] <DaylightOwl> to make the output of the whiptail command visible
[11:47] <DaylightOwl> otherwise the output would go in the variable and the user would not see it
[11:47] <DaylightOwl> and then the input from the user is redirected to stdout, which is put in the variable
[11:47] <shiftplusone> makes sense... I think. Need to play around a bit.
[11:47] <shiftplusone> thanks
[11:47] <DaylightOwl> the actual output is shown via stderr
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[11:49] <anev> has anyone got pulseaudio to work in a read-only env?
[11:50] <anev> i've modified my /etc/fstab to mount / as ro and created a tmpfs for /tmp
[11:50] <anev> not sure how to tell where PA needs to write to though to link it to /tmp
[11:50] <shiftplusone> DaylightOwl: are you sure it's redirecting stdin? wouldn't that be 0> ?
[11:51] <DaylightOwl> shiftplusone: yes you are right
[11:51] <shiftplusone> hmm
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[12:03] <ThinkingofPython> hey shiftplusone I got a reply from Nicola
[12:04] <ThinkingofPython> Gotta wait til july for applying
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[12:04] <shiftplusone> ah, so it made it to the admin folks
[12:06] <ThinkingofPython> Yeah, got tossed down the line heh
[12:07] <shiftplusone> Well, that's what happens when you try to jump the queue =P
[12:07] <ThinkingofPython> Gotta love boilerplate replies
[12:07] <ThinkingofPython> Heh, wasn't trying to. Just seeing if applications could be submitted to a queue
[12:08] <shiftplusone> got customer service'd
[12:08] <ThinkingofPython> yep
[12:08] <ThinkingofPython> D:
[12:08] <ThinkingofPython> U CULD HAVE HALPED ME MAN AND U DIDNT
[12:08] <ThinkingofPython> lol
[12:09] <shiftplusone> >.>
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[12:54] <AfterDarkness> hey i have my configure the eth0 to be static to connect my laptop to the pi
[12:54] <AfterDarkness> but how do i share the internet?
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[12:54] <AfterDarkness> do i need to forward the connection from eth0 to wan0 in my laptop?
[12:55] <AfterDarkness> throw iptables or something?
[12:55] <shiftplusone> are you using networkmanager on your laptop?
[12:55] <AfterDarkness> yes only for wireless
[12:55] <AfterDarkness> not mannged for lan
[12:56] <AfterDarkness> i mena for eth0
[12:56] <shiftplusone> if you use it for eth0, there's a shared with other computers option under ipv4 settings
[12:56] <mongrelion> AfterDarkness: does it happen to you that you connect the rpi to your laptop and you get network but if you connect it to the router you get nothing?
[12:56] <shiftplusone> which will automagically configure everything
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[12:57] <mongrelion> Because that's what happens to me and I haven't been able to solve it :(
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[12:57] <AfterDarkness> shiftplusone, do i need to make mine raspberry pi use dhcp?
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[12:57] <AfterDarkness> i want it to have static ip
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[12:58] <shiftplusone> I've only used that option with dhcp
[12:58] <AfterDarkness> this is the problem
[12:58] <shiftplusone> if you want more control, you may have to do it the old fashioned way
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[12:58] <shiftplusone> you can use https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Internet_sharing as a reference
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[13:06] <Goldy> ugh, whos idea was it to put 4 cores on the pi 2
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[13:11] <ShorTie> why ??
[13:11] <ShorTie> your like the 1st i've heard complain, lol.
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[13:12] <AfterDarkness> shiftplusone, i tried those iptables rules doesnt seem to be working
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[13:18] <niston> *yaaaawn*
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[13:24] <osxyer> could someone help me how to set my raspberry pi 1 as a vpn client
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[13:26] <shiftplusone> google is your best bet
[13:26] <knob> Good morning everyone =)
[13:26] <shiftplusone> 'morning
[13:26] <knob> hey yah shiftplusone !
[13:27] <knob> I had a rPi power supply die yesterday. It was a Made-in-China one, 5.0v 2.0A... over in #electronics, they directed me to DigiKey, and I think I found a very good one. Costly at 16-ish dollars, yet... seems very good quality.
[13:27] <osxyer> shiftplusone: might be but I don't understand coding
[13:27] <knob> Oh, and a guy suggested an "active PoE Splitter" .... which is AWESOME, because I use that quite frequently with my rPi installations
[13:28] <AfterDarkness> shiftplusone, the pi address had to be between between and for the default sharing to work
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[13:30] <AfterDarkness> now shiftplusone do you know how to forward port 80 to the pi ?
[13:31] <shiftplusone> iptables, but I can't give you a rule off the top of my head
[13:31] <AfterDarkness> okay
[13:31] <AfterDarkness> is it the farward section? or input?
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[13:32] * shiftplusone shrugs
[13:32] <shiftplusone> haven't played around with iptables in a long time
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[13:33] <niston> ----> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-port-redirection-with-iptables/
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[13:56] <linuxthefish> what is "kernel:[ 74.063836] Process ifplugd (pid: 2511, stack limit = 0xd884c1b0)" for? :S
[13:56] <Froolap> Yeah, what's the big idea behind putting 4 cores on the pi2?
[13:57] <Froolap> I could have had a V-8.
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[14:04] <shiftplusone> they should've just removed the CPU altogether
[14:05] <AfterDarkness> lol
[14:05] <Froolap> yeah, make it stackable.
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[14:06] <Froolap> I'm building a tower computer.
[14:07] <Froolap> putting all my pi together like legos till I build a light house out of them.
[14:09] <Kunsi> AfterDarkness: to forward ports, use forward chain (pretty easy to guess) - maybe you have to do something in nat table, too
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[14:10] <AfterDarkness> ty Kunsi I have found this http://superuser.com/questions/145188/port-forwarding-shared-connection-with-ubuntu
[14:11] <AfterDarkness> but the problem is my wlan0 use dhcp
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[14:11] <AfterDarkness> is there a way to do this without needing to update the rule after change in my wlan0's ip address
[14:13] <Froolap>
[14:14] <AfterDarkness> thanks Froolap! Will try this
[14:15] <Froolap> that should cover any ip on your lan with mutiple subnets. likely over kill
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[14:16] <AfterDarkness> well is there a better solution then?
[14:16] <AfterDarkness> I can make a script that get the ip address from ifconfig maybe?
[14:17] <Froolap> you could narrow it down to just the ip that will actually be on your network..... I have multiple isp and 5 routers to choose from. :)
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[14:18] <AfterDarkness> oh I see. I want this to work on any network. not just my home configuration
[14:19] <AfterDarkness> so if just the last 8bits are changing is better?
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[14:19] <Froolap> If I understand what you are doing..... you are just concerned with your pi connecting to your lapotop and your laptop is the gateway.....
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[14:20] <Froolap> Yeah, you likely aren't using 192.168.1. through 192.168.5.
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[14:22] <Froolap> but I'm not certain if it's littlendian.
[14:23] <AfterDarkness> yes. but I want the apache which is running on the pi to work
[14:23] <AfterDarkness> the only is to forward connections on port 80 from the laptop to the pi
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[14:25] <Froolap> then you need to make sure that the pi ip doesn't change.
[14:25] <Kunsi> AfterDarkness: iptables -A FORWARD -d -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
[14:25] <Kunsi> AfterDarkness: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination
[14:25] <AfterDarkness> Froolap, the pi has a static ip
[14:25] <Kunsi> where eth1 is your wifi interface, and is your pi
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[14:26] <AfterDarkness> okay thanks a lot guys will try it and get back to you
[14:26] <DoctorD90> good day :D
[14:26] <AfterDarkness> good day to you too :D
[14:26] <sasha> Hello, does Raspbian come with curl installed by default?
[14:26] <Froolap> I'll admit that I have some reading to do any time I mess with iptablles
[14:27] <Kunsi> sasha: it is
[14:27] <AfterDarkness> yeah they do require a lot of knowledge i suppose
[14:27] <Froolap> I'll learn it, I'll forget it by lunch tomorrow.
[14:27] <Kunsi> AfterDarkness: maybe you'll also need iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j MASQUERADE
[14:28] <sasha> thanks Kunsi
[14:29] <Kunsi> AfterDarkness: other idea, you could set up an ethernet bridge between wifi and eth, so your pi could be part of your "real" network, and not be hidden behind your laptop
[14:30] <AfterDarkness> I see but i prefer the routing seems more reliable
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[14:37] <AfterDarkness> Kunsi, does the xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/32 means anywhere?
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[14:37] <Kunsi> no
[14:38] <AfterDarkness> 32 is the subnet mask?
[14:38] <Kunsi> my rule says "forward requests to port 80 on interface eth1 to"
[14:39] <AfterDarkness> so in the FORWARD rules after replacing the with pi) do i keep the '/32'?
[14:40] <Kunsi> yes
[14:40] <AfterDarkness> does it matter if my pi subnet mask is
[14:41] <AfterDarkness> shouldnt it be /24?
[14:41] <Kunsi> and also you have to replace eth1 with whatever interface you are using to connect to your network
[14:41] <Kunsi> no
[14:41] <AfterDarkness> yes which is wlan0
[14:41] <AfterDarkness> okay thanks Kunsi
[14:41] <Kunsi> is a full ip address, so you're using /32
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[14:46] <AfterDarkness> unfortunately I am getting nothing on my local pc trying to access (my laptop)
[14:47] <AfterDarkness> however on my laptop i can access
[14:47] <Kunsi> did you add all three rules?
[14:47] <AfterDarkness> yea
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[14:47] <Kunsi> did you enable ip forwarding on your laptop?
[14:48] <AfterDarkness> oh damn forgot about it
[14:48] <AfterDarkness> ill check
[14:49] <AfterDarkness> done this: sudo sysctl net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
[14:49] <Kunsi> then it should work
[14:49] <AfterDarkness> not getting anything though
[14:50] <Kunsi> please show output of "iptables -S && iptables -t nat -S" in a pastebin
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[14:50] <jonno11> Hey, I worked out what was up with the headless RPi that I couldn't ssh into
[14:51] <jonno11> Finally got a screen, turns out it wont boot past the coloured screen, so I'm guessing corrupt kernel
[14:51] <Froolap> or power supply
[14:51] <AfterDarkness> http://pastebin.com/cC8APBSx
[14:51] <jonno11> Froolap: power supply is solid, I've used it for years on Pis
[14:52] <Froolap> then it's worn out. lol
[14:52] <jonno11> Froolap: ...it's not the power supply
[14:53] <jonno11> Froolap: wouldn't explain how it was working hours before I wiped and re-imaged the card.
[14:53] <Kunsi> AfterDarkness: you notice those REJECT rules?
[14:53] <AfterDarkness> yeah
[14:53] <AfterDarkness> on eth0 for forward?
[14:53] <Froolap> well if you need a new power supply, i have a couple i could loan ya.
[14:54] <Kunsi> how should be there any traffic if you REJECT it?
[14:54] <AfterDarkness> true but why are they there lol
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[14:54] <AfterDarkness> i dont remember adding them
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[14:54] <jonno11> Froolap: thanks, appreciate it man
[14:54] <AfterDarkness> ill delete them and see
[14:55] <Froolap> I just got done replacing all of my pi power supplies.
[14:56] <AfterDarkness> it is working thanks Kunsi
[14:56] <AfterDarkness> i will restart my laptop and see if those rules are added by default
[14:56] <Kunsi> stop!
[14:56] <AfterDarkness> ?
[14:56] <Kunsi> iptables tables are cleared on reboot
[14:56] <AfterDarkness> yes i know
[14:56] <Kunsi> install iptables-persistent or something like that
[14:57] <Froolap> and you didn't let me see your web page.
[14:57] <Kunsi> then you're good to go
[14:57] <AfterDarkness> no i have another solution kunsi dont worry
[14:57] <Kunsi> ok
[14:57] <Kunsi> then you're good to go
[14:57] <Froolap> firewalld?
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[15:00] <AfterDarkness> Kunsi I restarted and the reject rules are added by default
[15:01] <AfterDarkness> what could be adding them
[15:04] <Kunsi> don't know, check anything that interferes with firewall, for example your "restore iptables-rules-upon-reboot"-thingie
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[15:25] <ionte> hi. i really need a hint. i'm quite familiar with electronics, but i fail to get an led to blink using the raspberry pi gpio header...
[15:26] <ionte> i have connected: gnd -> resistor -> led cathode -> led anode -> pin on the gpio header
[15:26] <KD7JWC> ionte: have you accessed adafruits learn website for well written docs for projects?
[15:26] <ionte> if i connect the anode to a 3.3V pin, it lights up
[15:27] <ionte> KD7JWC: well, i've read multiple tutorials... not sure about that one...
[15:28] <ionte> here's my code: http://pastebin.com/ckjpsfV6
[15:28] <ionte> i've tried with multiple pins, but i still can't get it right.
[15:28] <Ryccardo> try turning it on through sysfs
[15:28] <KD7JWC> well i am no wiz at the pif as far as projects go but the docs here, https://learn.adafruit.com/ have some good walk through
[15:28] <Encapsulation> is it bad to stop a stepper from turning
[15:29] <Encapsulation> or does that have no effect on it
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[15:29] <maxbots|mtw> Encapsulation: It doesn't do any harm
[15:29] <maxbots|mtw> they are designed to do that
[15:29] <Ryccardo> short term, no problem
[15:29] <maxbots|mtw> It sounds bad but causes no harm
[15:29] <Encapsulation> so if I had code that turns a stepper and it reaches the end
[15:30] <Encapsulation> it shouldnt be a problem to have it try to turn a bit further
[15:30] <Encapsulation> stall out
[15:30] <Encapsulation> and then stop
[15:30] <Encapsulation> almost as a replacement for actually sensing when travel is complete
[15:30] <ionte> Ryccardo: any documentation for that?
[15:30] <maxbots|mtw> Yeah. You probably want a limit switch of some sort just to prevent the sound
[15:30] <maxbots|mtw> the grinding of missed steps will get old
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[15:30] <maxbots|mtw> not really grinding, just sort of sounds like it
[15:30] <wanda_> Hi, a short message to inform about raspivo: raspberry-pi 2 and XiVO (telephony system open source) http://raspivo.io
[15:31] <wanda_> soon in english! it's a new project
[15:31] <wanda_> contact us as you want :D
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[15:31] <Tenkawa> hi all
[15:31] <wanda_> I share the tutorials soon in the english page of raspberry-pi forum
[15:31] <wanda_> hi Tenkawa :)
[15:32] <Tenkawa> whats new all?
[15:32] <Ryccardo> ionte: as superuser -- `echo ?? /sys/class/gpio/export && echo out > /sys/class/gpio/gpio??/direction && echo 1 > /sys/class/gpio/gpio??/value` -- replace ?? with logical pin number
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[15:33] <ionte> Ryccardo: thanks
[15:34] <Ryccardo> oh, there's a > after the first ?? too
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[15:39] <ionte> Ryccardo: ok, i managed to get output on the expected pin. my multimeter says 3.3V. but the strange thing is that the led does still not light up! when i connect the anode to +3.3V on the gpio header instead, it is lit.
[15:39] <Ryccardo> which color is the led?
[15:39] <ionte> could there be some current limiter on the outputs of rpi?
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[15:39] <ionte> red. 180 ohm resistor in series.
[15:40] <Ryccardo> yes, and it's very low indeed -- I vaguely remember 50 milliamps
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[15:40] <osxyer> can someone install mint/unbuntu on rp1 ?
[15:41] <Ryccardo> osxyer: pi2, sure -- pi1, would need rebuilding all packages
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[15:41] <TheLostAdmin> I'm sure there are people who can.
[15:42] <osxyer> i dont even have the B+ model
[15:42] <osxyer> can't wait for my new rp2 to get here
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[15:42] <osxyer> new xmbc experience!!
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[15:46] <ionte> Ryccardo: well, 50 mA is more than twice what I need
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[15:49] <Ryccardo> ionte: looked it up, 50 is for the 3V pin, actual gpios are guaranteed to 16 → http://www.scribd.com/doc/101830961/GPIO-Pads-Control2
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[15:55] <niston> Encapsulation: Still no isolator board?
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[15:55] * Ryccardo too lazy to go build a new case
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[15:58] <Tenkawa> I need to build a case to house all of my pis
[15:58] <Tenkawa> stack of pis
[15:59] <Tenkawa> make it shaped kinda like those cases in restaurants for cake/pies
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[15:59] <Tenkawa> heheheheh
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[16:05] <ionte> Hm. Wow... My LED code works on an old RPi B, but not on a fresh Rpi B+
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[16:28] <Goldy> argh, corrupt SD card...
[16:31] <TheLostAdmin> sudo shutdown -rF now might help with that, Goldy.
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[16:31] <ionte> ok. so. i have flashed a new sd-card (raspbian 2015-05-05) and i have tried to blink a led on several GPIO's on a fresh RPi B+, but nothing works. Not even when reading voltage with a multimeter...
[16:31] <ionte> the same code works on a much older RPi B.
[16:32] <neo1691> I would like to have a setup where I can run kodi and at the same time be able to play with the GPIO of my pi when I am not using kodi. What would be the best way to do it? Dual boot? or installing Kodi on rasbian?
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[16:32] <neo1691> s/rasbian/raspbian
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[16:32] <ozzzy> what's to stop you from playing with gpios with openelec
[16:32] <ionte> so it seems like the B+ is broken, *but* what are the chances of break almost all GPIO's, but the other systems of the board still works? (sound, ethernet, sd interface ...)
[16:32] <Ryccardo> ionte: how old? the pin numbers on the latest original Bs are the same as on newer models, but the earliest Bs had different numberings
[16:33] <tora_borealis> I was thinking about picking up a banana pi. anyone had any personal experience with them?
[16:33] <tora_borealis> oh wait
[16:33] <tora_borealis> it's a humming board I think
[16:33] <ionte> Ryccardo: not very old, but more than a year. can i read it on the silk screen?
[16:34] <Goldy> TheLostAdmin, I have been shutting it down, just a pain the arse
[16:34] <ionte> Ryccardo: but it's the old one that works, and the new one that is broken
[16:34] <Ryccardo> ionte: blue or black headphone jack?
[16:34] <ionte> blue
[16:35] <TheLostAdmin> Goldy: the "F" in my suggested command forces an FSCK with fixes to fix corruption on the root filesystem.
[16:35] <tora_borealis> yea, the humming board
[16:35] <Ryccardo> ionte: left of the cpu, does it say "(c)2011.12"?
[16:35] <ionte> yes
[16:35] <Goldy> TheLostAdmin, ah ok, pain though, need to rebuild opencv and my changes to code this morning
[16:35] <Ryccardo> ionte: yep, this is the model that should be pin compatible with the B+...
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[16:37] <ionte> right ... and just to make sure: i've tried with many pins, but right now i'm using GPIO4 which is pin 7 on the header. So I've called "GPIO.setmode(GPIO.BOARD)" and then use 7 as pin number ("GPIO.output(7, True)")
[16:37] <neo1691> ozzzy: I want to install curlftpfs and openelec won't allow that?
[16:37] <neo1691> I cannot install anything from any repo in openelec?
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[16:39] <Ryccardo> ionte: "funny thing" is that logical pin 4 was never moved in the Pi's history
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[16:41] <omfgpls> pls
[16:41] <ozzzy> neo1691, it on't?
[16:41] <ozzzy> er.. .won't
[16:42] <AfterDarkness> Kunsi, are you there? regarding those rejecting rules being added. They were coming from the Network Manager. when i connect the ethernet cable they are added then, but before I have zero rules using this line: sudo iptables -S && sudo iptables -t nat -S
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[16:43] <AfterDarkness> So i am thinking of adding these necessary rules to share network with the pi manually
[16:43] <AfterDarkness> in the interfaces file
[16:43] <AfterDarkness> and the of course add the port 80 forwarding
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[16:50] <FlyingPersian> not sure if anyone knows, but would a raspberry PI A+ run a plex media server that's just for music playback?
[16:51] <Ryccardo> just noticed my hdmi cable sayt that it has ethernet, but there are apparently no splitters to implement that...
[16:52] <ionte> tried with wiring (gpio command) .. still can't manipulate the output. it's stuck at 3.3V on GPIO4.... :( :( :(
[16:54] <IT_Sean> Ryccardo: the Pi doesn't support ethernet over HDMI.
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[16:54] <Ryccardo> IT_Sean: exactly, two splitters to get ethernet jacks at both sides of the cable
[16:54] <IT_Sean> Ryccardo: it doesn't work that way/
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[17:09] <FlyingPersian> when I put the SD card into another raspberry, will it work normally then? from a Pi 2 into a b+
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[17:09] <neo1691> ozzzy: nope, so I think I will install rasbian and then install kodi on it.
[17:09] <neo1691> from the official repositories
[17:09] <neo1691> Or better I will install arch on it
[17:10] <Ryccardo> FlyingPersian: raspbian will work
[17:10] <FlyingPersian> okay perfet
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[17:11] <FlyingPersian> I'm thinking of going for one rpi with plex media center and a 2nd one with RasXBMC, which I'll use together with LEDs for Ambilight *.
[17:11] <FlyingPersian> *
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[17:14] <temmi_hoo> oh hi
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[17:18] <Ownix> This might be more of a general linux question but when I add a NFS share where does it show up in my filesystem?
[17:18] <Ownix> theres nothing in /mnt/ or /media/
[17:18] <temmi_hoo> I reddited http://redd.it/37q4ap and noticed on there a pointer to #raspberrypi so I joined here
[17:19] <temmi_hoo> Ownix: did you use some gui thing or just edited the fstab?
[17:20] <temmi_hoo> for the latter, you'd need to possibly either just sudo mount /mnt/newmountpoint
[17:20] <temmi_hoo> or possibly see about how to retrigger your automounter daemon of choice
[17:20] <temmi_hoo> running raspbian?
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[17:21] <Ownix> temmi_hoo: I did it through Kodi
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[17:22] <temmi_hoo> ah okay
[17:22] <temmi_hoo> dunno about that
[17:23] <temmi_hoo> I'm going to order from adafruit today a nice toy set for all kinds of builds I'll then run off of PoE
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[17:24] <temmi_hoo> ... just a day before our igg crowdsurfing campaign we noticed that pisupply launched theirs on ks
[17:24] <Ownix> is it faster to use iSCSI than SMB or NFS?
[17:29] <Ryccardo> I'd personally bet on the file-level ones since they put more work on the server
[17:29] <Ownix> yeah
[17:29] <temmi_hoo> Ryccardo: indeed, I'd vote for SMB being the fastest for a single client
[17:29] <temmi_hoo> then as client number goes up it's likely that NFS scales better
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[17:34] <temmi_hoo> any freebsd raspi users in here?
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[17:40] <TheLostAdmin> Temmi_hoo I'm planning on switching to FreeBSD on at least one of my Pi's but I haven't yet.
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[17:42] <temmi_hoo> I recently tried the 10.1 official image on a Raspi2 but it either failed to boot or just didn't put out anything to hdmi
[17:44] <TheLostAdmin> nothing at all? There should be a few things that show up (like that raspberry logo) as part of the bootstrap process (before the OS loads).
[17:44] <temmi_hoo> TheLostAdmin: it might be that by default it's bootloader is configured for serial console only
[17:45] <TheLostAdmin> that's possible.
[17:46] <temmi_hoo> that puts the initial configuration as a bit more challenging for anybody not used to deal with routers and the like
[17:47] <temmi_hoo> i'd perhaps say something like "normal people don't have a usb serial dongle"
[17:47] <jer> normal epople also don't have soldering skills =]
[17:47] <temmi_hoo> :)
[17:48] <temmi_hoo> well I do have a usbserial dongle but that's because I dig Junipers
[17:48] <Ryccardo> fun fact: serial cable I had since 2006 didn't connect to Kindle, Pi 1B did
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[17:49] * Tenkawa still remembers 3 bnc connector video cables
[17:49] <temmi_hoo> i've got a bag full of them
[17:49] <temmi_hoo> also some 13W3 ones
[17:50] * Tenkawa also used those ancient x.25 cables
[17:51] <Tenkawa> and token ring mau(sp) cables
[17:51] <temmi_hoo> 5bnc was better to 3bnc
[17:51] <Tenkawa> true
[17:51] <Tenkawa> only had one experience with those and it wasnt pleasant
[17:52] <temmi_hoo> convincing pc graphics cards to do syncongreen was always a challenge
[17:52] <Tenkawa> haahaa indeed
[17:52] <temmi_hoo> most didn't support it at all and for those that did, HOW was always different
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[17:53] <temmi_hoo> then on a pc those monitors didn't sync before the graphics environment was up so upgrading kernels was always an adventure
[17:53] <clever> ive still got the video and cpu boards from a voxel q workstation
[17:53] <temmi_hoo> serial console was also pretty much impossible as that worked only after the 2nd bootloader loaded succesfully
[17:53] <clever> http://cdn.dotmed.com/images/listingpics/1173824.jpg
[17:54] <clever> its the beast on the left
[17:54] <clever> the right one was an even bigger beast, but i dont have any of its parts
[17:54] <clever> that had rgb BNC out
[17:54] <temmi_hoo> but throughout the 90s it was nice since 20" trinitron monitors were available basically for the cost of transport
[17:55] <temmi_hoo> "oh we got this monitor for cheap and it didn't work"
[17:55] * temmi_hoo looks to see a windows pc next to a sun/hp/sgi monitor and tell them "what would you pay me to carry that away?"
[17:56] <ShorTie> thought that was a punch card reader till i saw the floppy drive .. :/~
[17:56] <clever> i recently threw out the frame for the voxel q, which still had the backplane and PSU in it
[17:56] <clever> so theres not much i can do to make the expansion boards work again
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[17:57] <clever> if i remember correctly, the motherboard has an expansion card on it with some massive ribbon cables, which then went to an expansion card on the backplane, which then fed all of the other larger expansion cards
[17:58] <temmi_hoo> sounds like it must have made perfect sense at the time
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[17:58] <clever> i have the photos somewhere, let me see
[17:59] <temmi_hoo> funny how every time I join an irc channel I find people with old and obscure computer experience
[17:59] <ShorTie> sortta like the old s-100 bus
[17:59] <temmi_hoo> I'm pretty mainstream, having used mostly sparcs and pcs and macs after the obligatory c-64
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[18:00] <TheLostAdmin> well, temmi_hoo, irc is old and obscure these days. So, you really should expect that the old and obscure is here.
[18:00] <clever> i still have a pair of c64's
[18:00] <clever> and atleast one working power brick
[18:00] <temmi_hoo> TheLostAdmin: yes indeed :)
[18:00] <IT_Sean> most IRC users are old and obscure.
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[18:00] <clever> temmi_hoo: have you seen the goop inside a c64 power brick?
[18:00] <temmi_hoo> I'm not sure where the new minds are, those who are supposed to learn stuff on the Raspi
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[18:01] <BCMM> clever: goop? like a miniature oil-cooled transformer?
[18:01] <TheLostAdmin> "supposed to learn" would imply they are at some sort of school.
[18:01] <temmi_hoo> :)
[18:01] <Ryccardo> I met someone giving away some kind of Sparc for free, but it came without hard drive
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[18:01] <clever> BCMM: more like a solid cube of still smelly&sticky glue
[18:01] <IT_Sean> Ryccardo: that would have made a lovely paperweight. or doorstop.
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[18:01] <IT_Sean> clever: it was probably oil, long congeiled.
[18:02] <temmi_hoo> Ryccardo: they'd eat any narrow scsi-2 drive should you _really_ want to power it up instead of just looking at it with dreamy eyes :)
[18:02] <temmi_hoo> clever: never opened one
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[18:02] <Ryccardo> temmi_hoo: that's the problem, the connector looks like some miniature printer-side parallel cable and I have no idea what it's called
[18:02] <TheLostAdmin> If it was one of the old small desktop-sparcstations, it could be gutted and turned into a fun sort of retro-pi case.
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[18:03] <clever> cant seem to locate the old photos
[18:03] <clever> let me just dig up the boards
[18:03] <temmi_hoo> Ryccardo: inside it has 50pin scsi pin header
[18:03] <Ryccardo> I didn't look very well, but it was way smaller than a regular scsi port
[18:03] <temmi_hoo> Ryccardo: outside it's the 50/68 pin workstation style scsi connector
[18:04] <temmi_hoo> very likely that I actually have some cables in my stash
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[18:04] <clever> ok, i grabbed the motherboard and GPU
[18:04] <Tenkawa> temmi_hoo: better question was it lvd or not
[18:04] <Tenkawa> haahaa
[18:04] <clever> sun micro-a cy7c601
[18:04] <Kane> o/
[18:05] <clever> anybody reconize that one?
[18:05] <temmi_hoo> depends on how new the sun is
[18:05] <temmi_hoo> mine are pre-lvd all of them
[18:05] <temmi_hoo> :)
[18:05] <clever> at a glance, it appears to have an external cache
[18:05] <Tenkawa> hhehehh
[18:05] <clever> the chip beside it is labled cache+, 1130a3
[18:06] <clever> the 3 expansion slots are labled SBUS
[18:06] <clever> and they look sort of like scsi connectors
[18:06] <temmi_hoo> but they're not
[18:06] <temmi_hoo> so that's an early sparc
[18:06] <temmi_hoo> they switched to pci in the ultrasparc era
[18:06] <clever> SBUS 1 is a small expantion board with a massive ribbon leaving it, that goes to a larger expansion board on the backplane
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[18:07] <temmi_hoo> connector looks like the one on the back lower row? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/SPARCstation20_front_and_rear.jpg
[18:07] <clever> the large backplane has 40cm x ~21cm expansion boards
[18:07] <clever> temmi_hoo: its a bit wider then that i think
[18:08] <clever> ~6cm for the SBUS connectors
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[18:09] <clever> the GPU board is ~40cm*21cm, and includes things liek a bt463, 4 xilinx chips, a metric crap-ton of SIP ram, and tons of DIP packages
[18:09] <clever> the board is just packed
[18:09] <Ryccardo> temmi_hoo: it looks like an HD-50 but it appears smaller than in photos
[18:09] <clever> and theres a tiny dip bt438
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[18:10] <clever> lol, netbsd still has drivers for the bt463
[18:10] <clever> http://www.nextcomputers.org/NeXTfiles/Docs/Hardware/Datasheets/Video%20Processor/Brooktree%20Bt463_Datasheet.pdf
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[18:11] <temmi_hoo> :D
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[18:12] <clever> another bit of useless trivia, the voxel q did 3d rendering, thats what voxels are :P
[18:12] <temmi_hoo> right after c-64 i ran into the local radio club that had a convergent miniframe system
[18:13] <temmi_hoo> 2megs of ram, 68020, with three pt and two gt terminals connected to two high speed serial buses
[18:14] <clever> the motherboard also has 4 sticks of ram in it, the really old style
[18:14] <temmi_hoo> so I'm a vi guy for natural reasons
[18:14] <Ryccardo> https://www.dropbox.com/s/lvj5ecu2biaggnd/epa.gif?dl=0 picture related
[18:14] <temmi_hoo> we were able to get the town sponsor us a brand spanking new sparcstation 1 right when it was released
[18:14] <clever> http://ebay.18004memory.com/ebaypics/FPM/SIMM/029A-30X2.gif
[18:15] <clever> temmi_hoo: it might be these
[18:15] <clever> but the friction is too strong, cant yank them out
[18:15] <Tenkawa> Bilby: hey
[18:15] <clever> ah wait, you bend it over
[18:15] <McBride36> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[18:15] <Tenkawa> yay my chromebok 1 is back in the game :)
[18:16] <Encrypt> "The game" he said
[18:16] <Tenkawa> 4.1.0-rc5 runs great on it
[18:16] <temmi_hoo> good old 30pin
[18:16] <clever> nope, still wont come out
[18:16] <temmi_hoo> Encrypt: no
[18:16] <temmi_hoo> just no
[18:16] <Encrypt> temmi_hoo, Yes, he did
[18:16] <Encrypt> :P
[18:16] <Tenkawa> what is that from?
[18:16] <Tenkawa> i should know
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[18:16] <temmi_hoo> ... that thing was old already when it was not
[18:17] <temmi_hoo> so let's just make this clear: nobody lost the game, there is no game
[18:17] <Tenkawa> the one i'm using is a movie reference
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[18:17] <Encrypt> Tenkawa, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_%28mind_game%29
[18:18] <Tenkawa> oh
[18:18] <Tenkawa> not my reference
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[18:18] <Tenkawa> not my intent anyway
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[18:20] * temmi_hoo waves hand: there never was the game, you don't know anything about the game
[18:20] <Tenkawa> oh "that"!!
[18:20] <Tenkawa> now that does sound familiar
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[18:21] <temmi_hoo> no it does not :)
[18:21] <Tenkawa> haahaa
[18:21] * Tenkawa is starting to feel old
[18:21] <temmi_hoo> so, clever, your voxel thing is using sparcs inside and some early 90s application specific cruncher?
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[18:23] <clever> temmi_hoo: looks like it
[18:23] <clever> it has a rack of about 4-5 expansion boards, all just as big as the gpu i listed above
[18:23] <clever> nearly all packed with chips
[18:23] <temmi_hoo> wonder if it runs sunos4 inside
[18:24] * Tenkawa cringes
[18:24] <clever> and 2 of them are cross linked with a pair of ribbons on the front, the backplane wasnt enough
[18:24] <Tenkawa> temmi_hoo: remember ncr svr4 by chance?
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[18:24] <clever> temmi_hoo: about all i can remember about the OS is that it was unix like, and it had some games somewhere near /usr/games
[18:24] <clever> and at the time, neither me or my dad knew much about unix, so we always cd'd into the dir before trying to run them
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[18:25] <clever> like dos
[18:25] <temmi_hoo> Tenkawa: i remember sunos4 with warm heart and then sunos5 with a lot less feelings
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[18:25] <clever> they where already in PATH i suspect
[18:25] <jer> dos had PATH too
[18:25] <jer> just fyi :)
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[18:25] <clever> and unix doesnt search . by default, dos does
[18:25] <clever> jer: but things rarely add to it
[18:25] <temmi_hoo> in dos you could run programs from the folder you were in by specifying absolute path
[18:25] <clever> so cd'ing into the dir only helps on dos, enless you ./foo
[18:25] <clever> which we never did on those games
[18:26] <temmi_hoo> also, in unix you could add . into path but it is not traditionally done
[18:26] <temmi_hoo> the rebecca thomas book discusses this
[18:26] <clever> i still have the scsi drives, but i'm not sure i have anything that can read them
[18:26] <Tenkawa> you have the machine sitting right there
[18:26] <Tenkawa> haahaa
[18:26] <jer> clever, mostly because of different use cases, but yeah
[18:27] <temmi_hoo> http://www.amazon.com/Unix-Administration-Guide-System-V/dp/0139428895
[18:27] <clever> Tenkawa: minus the PSU and backplane for the gpu
[18:27] <Tenkawa> clever: ahh
[18:27] <Tenkawa> darn
[18:27] <clever> the backplane and psu where bolted to the massive frame
[18:28] <temmi_hoo> so I had the account on that convergent machine at radio club and got used to multitasking and the like
[18:28] <clever> 2015-05-29 12:53:59 < clever> http://cdn.dotmed.com/images/listingpics/1173824.jpg
[18:28] * Tenkawa falls asleep waiting on xz
[18:28] <clever> 2015-05-29 12:54:03 < clever> its the beast on the left
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[18:28] <temmi_hoo> some years later we got a 286 pc (those were still current tech, with 386 being high end for rich people)
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[18:29] <temmi_hoo> i was _so_ disappointed by it as it didn't ask any login credentials and there was no way to have user preferences
[18:29] <Tenkawa> heh
[18:29] <temmi_hoo> backgrounding a task required the program to support being a tsr
[18:30] <temmi_hoo> then some days later it really sunk to me: i could never hook up a terminal so i could use the machine simultanously with my dad
[18:30] <temmi_hoo> 1988
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[18:31] <clever> temmi_hoo: you would likely need to swap out the stack pointer, and muck around with the console API to trick the 2nd task into not seeing the 1st console
[18:32] <temmi_hoo> so i thought: pcs are crap I'm gonna be a unix guy
[18:32] <clever> that may be enough, but then the heap under dos would become an issue
[18:32] <clever> dos just wasnt meant to multitask
[18:32] <temmi_hoo> clever: turns out there was not an operating system for PC hardware back in the day so I did not want to learn programming it either
[18:33] <clever> ah
[18:33] <clever> i still remember running geos ages ago
[18:33] <temmi_hoo> i mean, i "grew up with" already two years with the radio clubs miniframe unix
[18:33] <clever> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEOS_%288-bit_operating_system%29
[18:34] <temmi_hoo> ok time to buy some toys for raspi so that i can build me some nice ethernet powered coolnessess
[18:34] <temmi_hoo> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/raspoe-raspberry-pi-poe-shield/x/10905609#/story <-- this, in case someone missed
[18:35] <clever> ah, proper PoE :D
[18:35] <temmi_hoo> yup
[18:35] <Tenkawa> this chromebook runs nicely with a 4.1-rc kernel :)
[18:35] <temmi_hoo> the pi supply poe hat is also proper poe but ours is better because it's ours and more open source
[18:35] <temmi_hoo> just you choose which you want to
[18:36] <temmi_hoo> ours doesn't have the eprom for the purpose that now you can add a proper HAT on top
[18:36] <Tenkawa> can the 2 even use an injector?
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[18:36] <temmi_hoo> why not?
[18:36] <Tenkawa> didnt know if most had enough volt/mah
[18:36] <temmi_hoo> the silvertel ag9805 module is what everybody is using for their raspi poe splitters
[18:37] <temmi_hoo> allows for nearly 2 amps on 5 volts
[18:37] <Tenkawa> nice
[18:37] <temmi_hoo> we put a autofuse at 1,3amps
[18:37] <Tenkawa> ahh
[18:37] <Tenkawa> yeah i use 5v,2a for my individual supplies
[18:38] <temmi_hoo> anyhow, support our campaign and lets build some cool stuff ok? :)
[18:38] <temmi_hoo> i'm off to buy soem promo toys i can brag with next week and build me a poe powered portable workstation thing from raspi :)
[18:38] <temmi_hoo> adafruit++
[18:38] <Tenkawa> have fun
[18:39] <temmi_hoo> will do, will come back to promote being an old fart and proper 802.3af
[18:39] * Tenkawa knows about being aged
[18:39] <temmi_hoo> also, we do stm32f334 nucleo poe with enc424j600 nic
[18:40] <Tenkawa> brb.. reboot time
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[18:46] <Ryccardo> For your viewing pleasure: VLC 0.3.1 https://www.dropbox.com/s/os8vts5ulp9sygx/VLC.JPG?dl=0
[18:49] <clever> grats
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[18:58] <backz> What's the difference of MMAL and IL? What's IL means?
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[18:59] <JK-47> openmax integration library vs a broadcom api (mmal)
[18:59] <JK-47> i think
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[19:00] <backz> oh I see. I've found it. "is  designed to make it easier to use OpenMAX on the RPi"
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[19:01] <JK-47> speaking of which i picked up a few more noir cameras today ;)
[19:02] <JK-47> motion-mmal ftw
[19:03] <shiftplusone> JK-47, yeah, mmal is like comprehensible omx
[19:04] <shiftplusone> wrong person, but still
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[19:05] <JK-47> also got a 10k mAh battery pack for my security RPis :D
[19:05] <Great-Geek> Are there any extra steps for RPi2 kernel build? Move zImage to boot/kernel.img , modules_install is all we need?
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[19:06] <shiftplusone> Great-Geek, mkknlimage
[19:07] <shiftplusone> https://github.com/raspberrypi/tools/blob/master/mkimage/mkknlimg
[19:07] <shiftplusone> pass it through that thing
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[19:09] <Great-Geek> shiftplusone, Thanks. No U-Boot required ?
[19:09] <shiftplusone> nope
[19:09] <shiftplusone> the firmware serves as a bootloader as well
[19:10] <shiftplusone> (start.elf files up the kernel)
[19:10] <shiftplusone> *fires
[19:10] <temmi_hoo> oh boot guys, anyone know of freebsd boot on raspi?
[19:11] <Great-Geek> temmi_hoo, I'm trying to get Fedora22-server booting
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[19:11] <DoctorD90> hi shiftplusone :D have seen code :D ?
[19:11] <shiftplusone> DoctorD90, briefly, but it's pizza time.
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[19:11] <shiftplusone> temmi_hoo, could be be more specific?
[19:12] <JK-47> temmi_hoo: https://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/arm/Raspberry%20Pi
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[19:12] <JK-47> "Sort of" supported on rpi.
[19:12] <DoctorD90> xD ahahah ...btw, it gives another solution for second exmple, then try to check it. Or example is wrong, or I have to check code :) (even if it works weel for the first)
[19:12] <DoctorD90> let me know and have a good pizza :)
[19:13] <JK-47> Not sure why you would want fbsd in this sense. linux can be tuned down just as small.
[19:13] <Great-Geek> shiftplusone, So, assuming I have generic armhf image, wouldn't I be able to 'port' it over with rpi-firmware stuff in /boot /opt/vc and /lib/modules ?
[19:13] <temmi_hoo> shiftplusone, JK-47 they don't say explicitly if the bootloader is configured to not enable hdmi as console
[19:14] <temmi_hoo> JK-47: i just happen to prefer freebsd to debian or other linux distros
[19:14] <temmi_hoo> not really about tuning
[19:14] <JK-47> it does half way down.
[19:14] <JK-47> performance wont be as good w/ fbsd
[19:14] <JK-47> on an rpi1. 2 will be on par
[19:14] <shiftplusone> Great-Geek, yeah, as long as the arch lines up (don't try to use armv7 of a pi1, for example)
[19:15] <temmi_hoo> so i had some proper trouble when i didn't see a single pixel when booting a freshly burned musd card with 10.1 raspi image
[19:15] <shiftplusone> temmi_hoo, pi 1 or pi2?
[19:15] <temmi_hoo> it was a week ago but in an hour or so I'll try again :)
[19:16] <Great-Geek> shiftplusone, Anything special in config.txt or cmdline.txt (besides root,rootfstype). Cause I can't seem to get it to boot.
[19:16] <temmi_hoo> i'm just about to leave through grocery shopping to the helsinki hacklab in order to find out how and what
[19:16] <JK-47> temmi_hoo: look here. http://mail-index.netbsd.org/port-arm/tindex.html certainly not stable
[19:16] <shiftplusone> Great-Geek, no, you could even delete both files. Just make sure you have bootcode.bin, start.elf and a correctly configured kernel.
[19:17] <shiftplusone> well, and the fixup files wouldn't hurt
[19:17] <Great-Geek> shiftplusone, Rainbow HDMI screen. I know this isn't lack of power, since osmc boots
[19:17] <shiftplusone> Great-Geek, do you get anything at all? Which pi is it and which defconfig did you use? What files are present on boot?
[19:17] <Great-Geek> shiftplusone, Pi2
[19:17] <shiftplusone> so the kernel isn't loading
[19:18] <Great-Geek> shiftplusone, Exactly
[19:18] <shiftplusone> if you answer the rest of the questions, I can tell you why
[19:18] <temmi_hoo> JK-47: okay pokay... :) i'm fine with raspbian for the purposes of actually getting results instead of just mucking around
[19:18] <temmi_hoo> i just don't like it
[19:18] <temmi_hoo> don't have to
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[19:18] <temmi_hoo> i've used cisco's as well, didn't like them, still don't
[19:19] <Great-Geek> shiftplusone, Assume ext4 fs at p3, kernel and modules pulled from rpi-firmware
[19:19] <JK-47> cisco what.
[19:19] <temmi_hoo> can't remember which routers and then some switches, 3750 lately
[19:19] <JK-47> ohh
[19:19] <temmi_hoo> it's the command language i dislike
[19:20] <JK-47> the ios cli
[19:20] <temmi_hoo> cli is good
[19:20] <temmi_hoo> language is bad :)
[19:20] <shiftplusone> Great-Geek, what I think is happening is that you're using the wrong kernel or it's compiled wrong.. So you didn't compile it yourself then? Is it an armv6 or armv7 kernel and is it saves as kernel.img or kernel7.img?
[19:20] <JK-47> lol well its not exactly a *nix interface
[19:20] <temmi_hoo> no
[19:20] <temmi_hoo> i like router cli's a lot more than unix shells
[19:20] <temmi_hoo> proper tab completion and context help and all everywhere
[19:20] <shiftplusone> *saved
[19:20] <Great-Geek> shiftplusone, I'll try my compiled kernel after I can get it to boot with precompiled, known to be good binaries
[19:20] <temmi_hoo> junos happens to be my personal favourite
[19:21] <Great-Geek> shiftplusone, I would save my kernel as kernel7.img
[19:21] <JK-47> as a #ciscochampion i disagree lol
[19:21] <Great-Geek> shiftplusone, But I want to get it booting with straight rpi-firmware first, so I know the env is setup
[19:22] <JK-47> hmmm my battery pack keeps shutting my rpi off. hope its not going to a trickle mode
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[19:23] <Great-Geek> shiftplusone, Can we take this into private messages?
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[19:23] <shiftplusone> sure
[19:24] <shiftplusone> I may be a little distracted though
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[19:31] <brasizza> sup guys
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[19:34] <brasizza> how do you see the raspberry in your country.. i mean to use in real life like te final user
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[19:41] <Tenkawa> uggh I hate slow sd cards
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[19:43] <grondilu> Hello
[19:43] <Tenkawa> hi
[19:43] <grondilu> on my first login I got the following Notice:
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[19:44] <grondilu> "the software on this raspberry pi has not been fully configured. Please run 'sudo rasp-config'"
[19:45] <grondilu> I'm logging through ssh because I have no screen. Is it safe to run this without X?
[19:45] <shauno> yes
[19:45] <grondilu> ok
[19:48] <grondilu> also, there is not on/off button so once I have shutdown (I did "sudo halt"), I must unplug and plug again?
[19:49] <mimer> correct
[19:49] <mimer> or you could just sudo reboot
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[19:51] <grondilu> I'm shutdown now. Using an other comp. But I had noticed with df -h that not all the space on my card is used. It's quite a big one (60Go). I will be able to use it all, right?
[19:51] <mimer> if you start the config tool, it has an option for resizing the sdcard
[19:51] <Tenkawa> mimer: heh beat me to it
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[19:51] <mimer> :P
[19:51] <grondilu> all in text right?
[19:52] <mimer> Well, it's in curses
[19:52] <grondilu> nice
[19:52] <grondilu> I was a bit scared to go through, but I guess I'll do it now.
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[19:53] <mimer> even if you screw something up, it's not that hard to redo everything again =P
[19:53] <Tenkawa> yep
[19:53] <Tenkawa> grondilu: you are asking good questions too in my opinion
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[19:55] <grondilu> well, I'm quite experienced in debian. But this is my first raspberry.
[19:55] <Tenkawa> grondilu: i run debian armhf on my pi2's
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[19:55] <mimer> dito
[19:55] <Tenkawa> instead of the other stuff like raspbian, etc
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[19:55] <grondilu> I need to reconnect to IRC with an other computer
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[19:56] <Tenkawa> I just got my chromebook 1 updated too
[19:56] <Tenkawa> typing from it now
[19:56] <mimer> kewl
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[19:56] <Tenkawa> much more comfortable with its form factor than my x86 laptop
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[19:57] <mimer> Isnt it a bit low on.. well, everything? ^^
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[19:58] <grondilu> I'm back
[19:58] <mimer> Wb!
[19:58] <grondilu> ok, trying to ssh again now
[19:59] <grondilu> done, now 'raspi-config'
[19:59] <grondilu> nice
[19:59] <mimer> indeed :)
[20:00] <grondilu> very debian-like interface :)
[20:00] <Tenkawa> yep
[20:00] <Tenkawa> go slackware!!!
[20:00] <Tenkawa> haahaa
[20:00] * Tenkawa still remembers it before it even had a official release number
[20:01] <grondilu> expanded the root partition. It tells me it will be done after the next reboot.
[20:01] <Tenkawa> grondilu: yep
[20:01] <grondilu> Maybe I should reboot now?
[20:01] <Tenkawa> yes
[20:01] <mimer> Yep
[20:01] <mimer> or you could do all your configurations before the reboot
[20:01] <grondilu> oh it proposes me to do so. Nice.
[20:01] * grondilu reboots
[20:01] <Tenkawa> yep
[20:01] <Tenkawa> see you in a few
[20:02] <grondilu> I very much like what I see so far :)
[20:02] <Tenkawa> you will
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[20:02] <Tenkawa> they are awesome
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[20:02] <grondilu> I mean, just the fact that I can do the install without screen or keyboard is just awesome.
[20:02] <Tenkawa> hehehehh
[20:03] <grondilu> logged again.
[20:03] * grondilu continues with the config
[20:04] <mimer> whats your plans for the pi then? :F
[20:04] <Tenkawa> mimer: haahaahaa.. plans... oops i knew I forgot something
[20:04] <mimer> lol
[20:05] <Tenkawa> i tinker and design a lot.. thats my plans heehee
[20:05] <grondilu> mimer: frankly I'm considering just using it as a regular PC
[20:05] <Tenkawa> yeah.. why not
[20:05] <Tenkawa> grondilu: pi2 right?
[20:05] <grondilu> yes
[20:06] <Tenkawa> cool
[20:06] <grondilu> I can't see all the text for option 3 "Choose whether to boot into a desktop or..."
[20:07] <mimer> yea, just if you want it to startx automatically on boot
[20:07] <Tenkawa> ok.. brb.. lets see how bad I screwed this up
[20:07] <mimer> or not
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[20:07] <mimer> which you probably don't, since it's headless at the moment
[20:08] <grondilu> I think I won't use X for now.
[20:10] <grondilu> What's Rastrack? I can't see all the description text.
[20:11] <grondilu> it's a tool for software usage statistics I guess.
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[20:11] <Tenkawa> yay my backup technique worked
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[20:12] <Tenkawa> now I can change kernel code and revert back safely
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[20:16] <grondilu> ok well that was very easy. I assume now I can just set a root password and create a grondilu user, right?
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[20:16] <Tenkawa> indeed
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[20:16] <Tenkawa> dont forget to visudo
[20:17] <Tenkawa> if you are going to need it to sudo
[20:17] <grondilu> or maybe I can just use sudo when I have to. I actually rarely use this (which is bad I know)
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[20:18] <grondilu> I need to read the man pages for these (sudo and visudo) before I go on.
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[20:26] <Tenkawa> grondilu: having fun yet?
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[20:27] <Tenkawa> grondilu: neat unit isnt it?
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[20:30] <grondilu> it looks awesome but I'm a bit scared of all the config I'll have to do to make it comfortable.
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[20:30] <grondilu> and all the packages I'll have to install.
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[20:31] <Froolap> mumble
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[20:31] <grondilu> on the other hand that's the same everytime I buy a new computer.
[20:34] <Palmer11> it doesn’t take long to set it up
[20:36] <grondilu> well I haven't used ssh for some time. One thing I should do is put my pub key in authorized_keys so I don't have to enter the password everytime. It's those kind of details that worry me.
[20:37] <Palmer11> you should still need to enter a password for ssh
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[20:37] <Palmer11> and when you sudo
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[20:38] <grondilu> pretty sure I can use assymetric keys for SSH without passwords.
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[20:39] <Tenkawa> grumble
[20:39] <Tenkawa> internal compiler errors
[20:39] <hhmmm> tsk
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[20:39] <Tenkawa> hate it when that happens
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[20:40] <Tenkawa> 3 compiles later and its fine
[20:40] <Tenkawa> maybe not
[20:40] <Tenkawa> haahaa
[20:40] <Tenkawa> there we gi
[20:40] <Tenkawa> er go
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[20:41] <Tenkawa> much better
[20:41] <grondilu> Nice: login without password works :)
[20:41] <Tenkawa> brb
[20:41] <sarmiena_> using SFTP to pi is yielding ~1.5MB/s. does that sound about right? (rpi 2, 2.5” HDD on powered USB hub, wired through ethernet)
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[20:43] <Palmer11> depends on your connection
[20:43] <Palmer11> and sd card
[20:43] <sarmiena_> ah sorry. this is over LAN
[20:43] <Palmer11> yes, but connection is still a concern
[20:43] <Palmer11> wired? wifi?
[20:43] <Palmer11> cable length
[20:43] <sarmiena_> the pi is directly connected to router wired
[20:44] <Palmer11> then your routers specs
[20:44] <Palmer11> there is several factors
[20:44] <sarmiena_> so assuming that this is a standard router that allows WAN downloads of up to 35MB/s (because it’s wireless N), i would assume that the router/network itself isn’t bottlenecking to 1.5MB/s, right?
[20:45] <Palmer11> and the ether port is only a 10/100
[20:45] <Palmer11> wireless wouldn’t factor, as you stated you are wired
[20:45] <sarmiena_> i see. and i heard that the ethernet also ends up going through USB, which also slows it down?
[20:45] <Palmer11> not 100% sure.
[20:46] <Palmer11> you would also need to factor that you are writing to an sd card
[20:46] <sarmiena_> ah my original post showed it was 2.5” HDD on powered USB
[20:46] <sarmiena_> (rpi 2, 2.5” HDD on powered USB hub, wired through ethernet)
[20:46] <Palmer11> yea… so you are writing to a usb hdd
[20:47] <Palmer11> I think it sounds right
[20:47] <sarmiena_> yeah but USB is rated at 22MB/s
[20:47] <Palmer11> depends on the drive
[20:47] <Palmer11> and drivers
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[20:47] <sarmiena_> using hdparm and dd it writes 22MB/s
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[20:47] <sarmiena_> so 1.5 bottleneck isn’t coming from the drive itself, or the router. wondering if there’s something else i’m missing
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[20:49] <Palmer11> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=36774
[20:49] <sarmiena_> heh. i know it sounds like i’m being contrary here, but only because i’ve looked at all these things and am now at a loss :)
[20:49] <Palmer11> I would look through the forums
[20:49] <Palmer11> You should be able to find similar questions
[20:49] <sarmiena_> ah cool. thanks
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[20:56] <Tenkawa> brv
[20:56] <Tenkawa> brb
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[20:59] <Chillum> Is the Pi able to act as an I2C slave? I can't find anything about that
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[21:00] <Chillum> I know it _can_ but are there already existing drivers?
[21:02] <Froolap> well rpi2-f22-kde-pifed boots, it's slower than a ping in rut.... but it boots.
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[21:03] <temmi_hoo> so okay i won't be trying the freebsd on pi2 today, perhaps sunday
[21:03] <hmmwhatsthisdo|W> Is there a way to force a specific monitor resolution on the RPI if HDMI is not connected?
[21:03] <Tenkawa> temmi_hoo: why?
[21:03] <hmmwhatsthisdo|W> (without forcing the resolution if HDMI is connected)
[21:03] <temmi_hoo> this sunday recently got upgraded from family washing day to hacklab improvement day
[21:04] <Tenkawa> temmi_hoo: isnt there a freebsd image easily dd' to test?
[21:04] <temmi_hoo> Tenkawa: it's already a bit late-ish and the wife sounded like i'd perhaps better not be at the lab super late today
[21:04] <Tenkawa> ahhhhhh
[21:04] <Tenkawa> good reason
[21:04] <temmi_hoo> well i just arrived here bringing stuff and decided to not even start proper hacking
[21:04] <Tenkawa> you must be a bit more east than I
[21:04] <sarmiena_> Palmer11: forums say that due to sftp encryption, max speed is around 2-3MB/s since that’s all the CPU can handle. so cpu is bottleneck
[21:04] <temmi_hoo> .fi
[21:04] <Tenkawa> yeah
[21:05] <Tenkawa> eastern usa here
[21:05] <temmi_hoo> :)
[21:05] <temmi_hoo> okay
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[21:05] <hmmwhatsthisdo|W> Anyone? I'd like to be able to use something better than 720x480 when I'm VNCing into the box without a screen connected
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[21:06] <Tenkawa> hmmwhatsthisdo|W: set the vnc server process up to use a bigger res
[21:06] <Tenkawa> should be a setting for that
[21:06] <Tenkawa> or the viewer... one of the 2
[21:07] <Tenkawa> look in /etc/default
[21:07] <Tenkawa> see if there is a vnc related file
[21:07] <hmmwhatsthisdo|W> nothing AFAICT
[21:07] <Tenkawa> find /etc } grep vnc
[21:07] <Tenkawa> anything?
[21:08] <Tenkawa> er
[21:08] <Tenkawa> find /etc | grep vnc
[21:08] <Tenkawa> oops sorry
[21:08] <Tenkawa> darn typo
[21:08] <hmmwhatsthisdo|W> http://paste.debian.net/187620
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[21:09] <_X_C_V_B_> I have a c270 webcam and I can't audio working on it
[21:09] <Tenkawa> check the .conf file
[21:09] <_X_C_V_B_> I want to record sound
[21:10] <Tenkawa> hmmwhatsthisdo|W: any settings?
[21:10] <hmmwhatsthisdo|W> yeah, realized I actually made that file from a guide lol
[21:10] <Tenkawa> heheheh
[21:10] <Tenkawa> cool will that allow you to do what you need?
[21:11] <hmmwhatsthisdo|W> we'll find out in a sec
[21:11] <Tenkawa> good luck
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[21:13] <hmmwhatsthisdo|W> Tenkawa: -geometry 1920x1080 just scaled the display - it didn't actually resize it
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[21:13] <Tenkawa> part of that is the client res too i think
[21:14] <Tenkawa> you need to specify it will allow
[21:14] <Tenkawa> i think
[21:14] <Tenkawa> been a while since i set it up
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[21:17] <Tenkawa> hmmwhatsthisdo|W: any finds?
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[21:18] <hmmwhatsthisdo|W> trying
[21:18] <Tenkawa> brb... need a reboot
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[21:37] <maxbots|mtw> If I want to copy everything on my SD card to a new, larer SD card, and I have a USB card reader tha the pi works with, is the best way to accomplish it just to cp /* /media/[newsd]?
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[21:37] <maxbots|mtw> guess I would need a sudo there
[21:37] <maxbots|mtw> but that seems like it might be asking for trouble somehow
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[21:43] <cehteh> maxbots|mtw: same size? then use dd or ddrescue to make a image copy, otherwise rsync instead cp
[21:43] <maxbots|mtw> no, larger
[21:43] <maxbots|mtw> kk, will google rsync
[21:43] <cehteh> rsync -aPSH /source /destination should suffice
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[21:43] <maxbots|mtw> kk, thanks, even better
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[21:44] <cehteh> as root of course
[21:44] <maxbots|mtw> thx
[21:45] <maxbots|mtw> and it will be smart enough not to copy the files that are already in the destination directory I assume?
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[22:10] <grondilu> I can connect to my X server (on my netbook) with ssh -Y. So I tried to watch a video but it does not go very well.
[22:10] <grondilu> I'm supposed to be able to watch HD videos, aren't I?
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[22:11] <grondilu> lol
[22:11] <grondilu> I'm afraid I was.
[22:11] <Froolap> i'm afraid
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[22:12] <mimer> Never actually tried video over ssh, so I'm not actually sure if it should work out =P
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[22:13] <shauno> video doesn't always work over x-forwarding because they usually use direct rendering stuff (the same problem that means that screenshot show a green box)
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[22:41] <Ryccardo> maxbots|mtw: of course, you will want to create, format, and mount all the partitions on the target disk as desired
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[22:43] <maxbots|mtw> Ryccardo: rsync ran out of either memory or disc space-- it failed after about 2 minutes while copying the files...
[22:43] <maxbots|mtw> Pretty much decided just to say screw it and start over from scratch
[22:43] <Ryccardo> [21:03:54] <hmmwhatsthisdo|W> Is there a way to force a specific monitor resolution on the RPI if HDMI is not connected? -- not in general, but you might be able to use framebuffer_{width|heigth} with the config.txt EDID conditional blocks
[22:43] <maxbots|mtw> Have a bunch of stuff installed, but nothing I can't reconstruct in a pinch
[22:44] <maxbots|mtw> Any opinions of Ubuntu-Mate vs Raspbian?
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[22:44] <Ryccardo> [20:10:38] <grondilu> What's Rastrack? I can't see all the description text. -- Pi owner's club, basically
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[22:45] <ShorTie> maxbots|mtw, look into rpi-clone https://github.com/billw2/rpi-clone
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[22:45] <maxbots|mtw> ShorTie: thanks, looks good
[22:45] <Ryccardo> maxbots|mtw: Raspbian generally outperforms other Linuxes even though it's built for arm6, more optimized for our cpus
[22:46] <maxbots|mtw> Not super worried about perfromance for this, I am more familiar with Ubuntu so leaning that way
[22:47] <maxbots|mtw> is the performance hit big?
[22:47] <Ryccardo> subjective, but still acceptable
[22:47] <maxbots|mtw> kk, for what I am doing it is probably fine
[22:48] <maxbots|mtw> only issue is the instructions to copy it to the SD card are for Linux, I dl'd it to my Windows machine, any tips on how to copy the image over?
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[22:51] <Ryccardo> there are ports of dd (I use and like Chrysocone's, however it's spelled), or this "win32diskimager" everyone else claims to use
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[22:52] <maxbots|mtw> kk, thanks
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[23:06] <grondilu> https://plus.google.com/109587076259891187951/posts/Wdth7muok6v
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[23:06] <grondilu> ^my setup :)
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[23:22] <platzhirsch> Is it possible to emulate my RPi image on my linux box?
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[23:23] <tawr> what do you mean "emulate"
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[23:23] <platzhirsch> launch in a virtual machine
[23:23] <JK-47> you can cross compile stuff for it on your linux box.
[23:23] <tawr> you can cross-compile programs and even whole operating systems on linux. that's how a lot is done. people build their own kernels for the pi on their linu computers
[23:23] <tawr> but running it in a vm or something? no.
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[23:26] <platzhirsch> Okay :) thanks
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[23:27] <Ryccardo> there is a qemu-arm, but it's most likely not tuned to be 100% Pi compatible
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[23:42] <platzhirsch> Just thought, maybe I can setup a wifi connection this way and then let my Raspberry connect to my home router
[23:43] <platzhirsch> because I don't have a separate monitor here, or can connect it via ethernet right now
[23:43] <platzhirsch> guess I'll do it at work on Monday
[23:43] <JK-47> you can edit your files on your SD card on the linux box
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[23:44] <Ownix> hey guys, messed with /etc/fstab and now pi wont boot
[23:44] <JK-47> platzhirsch: no hd tv w/ hdmi?
[23:44] <Ownix> How can I get into it and fix it?
[23:45] <platzhirsch> JK-47: yeah, nothing
[23:45] <Tenkawa> Ownix: which fs is failing and do you get up to even single user?
[23:45] <platzhirsch> thought about that but I haven't setup the WiFi adapter yet, it's a fresh install
[23:46] <Tenkawa> platzhirsch: its only a few files to stage
[23:46] <Tenkawa> /etc/network/interfaces mostly
[23:47] <Tenkawa> possibly /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.con
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[23:47] <Tenkawa> er .conf
[23:47] <platzhirsch> yeah, I could copy that, but my wifi configuration is in NetworkManager and I think that's not installed on the Debian image?
[23:47] <Tenkawa> thats all you "should" need
[23:47] <Tenkawa> you can put it in those files i mentioned and not need NM
[23:48] <platzhirsch> ah I see :)
[23:48] <platzhirsch> nice http://linux.die.net/man/5/wpa_supplicant.conf
[23:49] <Tenkawa> most of the edits is in interfaces
[23:49] <Froolap> that's what I like about pidora. I can ssh in on cat5 and then use nmcli to configure the wireless and then I don't need the cat5 any more.
[23:50] <Tenkawa> meh
[23:50] <Tenkawa> stage the files then you dont need nm at all :)
[23:50] <Froolap> nmcli on raspbian doesn't support that feature
[23:50] <Ownix> Tenkawa: it looks like I cant even get in. im on OSMC and I get "Welcome to emergency mode!" and then it says ctrl+D to continue and then "Segmentation Faukt" I cant run any commands
[23:51] <Tenkawa> ok dont ctrl-d and does it say enter root pw?
[23:52] <Tenkawa> Ownix: can you put this sd card in another machine?
[23:52] <Tenkawa> linux box that is
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[23:52] <Tenkawa> what changed in fstab?
[23:57] <Ownix> Tenkawa: I tried to set up a mount for my CIFS share
[23:57] <Ownix> I have a windows machine
[23:57] <Ownix> I could boot to Live linux on a DVD
[23:58] <Ownix> and then put the sd card into my computer
[23:58] <Ownix> would that work?
[23:58] <Ownix> Windows doesnt seem to see the Linux partition
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[23:59] <Tenkawa> Ownix: yes
[23:59] <Ownix> kk going down for a reboot now brb
[23:59] <Tenkawa> mount up the sd and comment out that entry

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