#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2015-05-30

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[0:07] <Tenkawa> bbl
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[0:31] <innkeeper> i've noticed while reading about how to overclock a raspberry pi 2 theres been great variations on overclock sucsess.
[0:32] <innkeeper> does tcorelate at all on who actualy made them?
[0:32] <ozzzy> why bother
[0:33] <innkeeper> i use it mostly for playing flack files using volumio
[0:33] <innkeeper> so at a standard clock rate, i will sometimes get loss
[0:33] <innkeeper> so, thats why id bother.
[0:34] <ozzzy> you should be able to choose any of the settings in raspi-config without problem
[0:34] <Ryccardo> define "success" -- it's changing the maximum frequency of the ondemand governor, it's not at that speed 24/7 by default
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[0:36] <innkeeper> i am talking about forceturbo - overvolting etc
[0:36] <innkeeper> and sucsess really dos mean how far you can ush it
[0:36] <innkeeper> not that you can overclock it some
[0:40] <innkeeper> so in exaple increasign sdram fequency will ahve a limit dependant on the memory chips
[0:40] <ozzzy> I run mine at 1GHz but it sits at 600MHz most of the time
[0:40] <innkeeper> so unless all makers are using the exact same chip, one would ahve toa sume thres a diffrnce amoung the diffrent companies makign them
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[0:43] <Ryccardo> regardless of actual assembler, they probably buy 1000 chips from the best supplier at any time they need more
[0:43] <Ryccardo> or so would I do
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[1:00] <Ownix> Tenkawa: I got it working thanks for your help
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[1:04] <maxbots|mtw> I just installed ubuntu-mate on my rpi and now my display is intermittently flickering
[1:04] <maxbots|mtw> It was working fine before with raspbian
[1:04] <maxbots|mtw> I unplugged the HDMI cable and plugged it back in and it helped, but still flickers a bit
[1:05] <maxbots|mtw> any ideas about what would cause that?
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[1:18] <maxbots|mtw> Changing back to Raspbian fixes the problem, but I prefer Ubuntu if possible
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[1:20] <Froolap> which version of pi?
[1:20] <maxbots|mtw> 2
[1:21] <maxbots|mtw> model b
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[1:22] <Froolap> could be issues with fbturbo.
[1:22] <maxbots|mtw> The screen looks good and everything, but intermittently just goes blank for a second or so
[1:23] <Froolap> screen saver and or power management....
[1:23] <Froolap> is that your desktop or is it when you are streaming video?
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[1:24] <maxbots|mtw> Neither, basically the desktop
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[1:24] <maxbots|mtw> it is going to be aserver eventually
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[1:25] <maxbots|mtw> screen saver and power management should both be disabled
[1:26] <maxbots|mtw> unplugging the HDMI cable seems to fix it, but it comes back after a bit, and it seems to get progressively worse to the point it becomes unusable unless I unplug the HDMI again
[1:26] <maxbots|mtw> then it goes back to normal for a while
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[1:27] <Froolap> maybe it's a problem with the tv. the pi only looks at the monitor resolution at boot.
[1:28] <maxbots|mtw> It works fine when I use raspbian, so that seems to eliminate hardware
[1:28] <maxbots|mtw> And normally this monitor is plugged into my Windows box
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[1:28] <maxbots|mtw> So it definitely is not the monitor
[1:29] <Froolap> maybe the process of disconnecting and reconnecting the hdmi keeps your fingers off the keyboard so it's not busy for a bit.
[1:29] <maxbots|mtw> fbturbo is probably the best guess, reading a bit on it now
[1:29] <maxbots|mtw> Doesn't matter whether I am doing anything on it or not
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[1:35] <justicefries> any retropie folks here? I'm trying to find the post that describes how to turn the select button ont he xbox 360 controller into a back button.
[1:38] <maxbots|mtw> Froolap: Think I found it
[1:38] <maxbots|mtw> http://elinux.org/RPiconfig
[1:41] <maxbots|mtw> err https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=7407
[1:41] <maxbots|mtw> the 4th one there
[1:42] <maxbots|mtw> so far so good, after rebooting it seems tsable
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[3:35] <Tenkawa> anything interesting going on tonight?
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[3:37] <Froolap> I'm making f22 images for rpi2.
[3:37] <Tenkawa> f22?
[3:37] <Froolap> fedora22
[3:37] <Tenkawa> ahh
[3:38] <Froolap> the new version is out......
[3:38] <Tenkawa> cool
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[4:27] <Ownix> im unraring a large file on the Pi and its taking a long... long.. time which makes sense
[4:27] <Ownix> is there a way to use my laptop to unrar the file without coping the file off to a flash drive and then back?
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[4:33] <Triffid_Hunter> Ownix: sure, use sshfs to network mount the relevant section of filesystem
[4:33] <Ownix> Triffid_Hunter: what about on a windows machine?
[4:33] <Triffid_Hunter> Ownix: you probably want hpn sshfs with the null cipher to avoid doing encryption on the rpi and causing the same issue
[4:34] <Ownix> welp that sounds over my head lol
[4:34] <Triffid_Hunter> Ownix: windows? heh, install cifs on the rpi, set up a shared folder, do the same thing there
[4:34] <Triffid_Hunter> sorry, install samba. cifs is the protocol
[4:34] <Ownix> But would my computer really be doing the extraction? All youre saying is just host the file as a share right?
[4:35] <JK-47> it would be slow. you would be reading it in and writing it out as you extract
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[4:36] <Ownix> the real question is whats slower
[4:36] <Ownix> letting the Pi extract a 7.5GB RAR file or doing it over the network
[4:36] <Triffid_Hunter> Ownix: everything on RPis is slow except playing HD video via the HDMI port
[4:37] <Ownix> even that has to use the GPU right?
[4:37] <Triffid_Hunter> it uses the vpu
[4:37] <Triffid_Hunter> which is a little like the GPU but it's specifically designed for video decoding rather than 3d graphics
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[4:41] <Ownix> ah
[4:41] <Ownix> streamlined to be an HTPC
[4:41] <Ownix> Or a little dev board
[4:41] <Ownix> but if you make it also download and extract things its not the best for that
[4:42] <Ownix> Almost need a home server
[4:42] <Ownix> and then ditch the pi for a Chromecast
[4:42] <Ownix> because at that point, whats the point?
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[4:51] <Triffid_Hunter> Ownix: yeah it's primarily a novelty
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[4:56] <Ownix> yeah I might sell mine in a month or so and build a little i5
[4:58] <Froolap> you are going to sell your pi?
[4:58] <Ownix> mayhaps
[4:58] <Ownix> in the future.
[4:58] <Ownix> Its not powerful enough for me. And I didnt consider all the things id need it to do fast when I bought it
[4:59] <JK-47> or they are so cheap, give it to some kid to start his career in technology :P
[4:59] <Ownix> well I bought mine as a kit for like $80
[5:00] <Ownix> It could be a good jumping off point for a barebones pc on newegg
[5:00] <Ownix> http://www.newegg.com/Mini-PC-Barebone/SubCategory/ID-309
[5:01] <JK-47> i keep buying more and more. never ending uses.
[5:01] <JK-47> 3 or 4 as security cameras. fish feeder. etc
[5:02] <JK-47> im waiting on a smartthings hub to do some ifttt work with them next
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[5:03] <Ownix> JK-47: what is IFTTT?
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[5:03] <JK-47> if this than that.
[5:04] <dLux> hay there, anyone use eggdrop on ubuntu-mate via apt-get (vs. compile from src)..?
[5:04] <JK-47> https://ifttt.com/smartthings
[5:04] <dLux> i’m wondering about init.d
[5:04] <JK-47> basically ifttt is a collection of rules that fire, and then kick off other things
[5:04] <dLux> it’ll just start it, ya? not monitor it and keep it running?
[5:04] <JK-47> "if motion detected, take picture, and then upload to dropbox, and send email"
[5:04] <dLux> still need the crontab that does that?
[5:04] <JK-47> through web services
[5:04] <JK-47> or "if door opens, turn on my web enabled lights"
[5:05] <Ownix> ah
[5:05] <Ownix> thats neat
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[5:08] <Froolap> I run eggdrop, nut not ubuntoo
[5:09] <Froolap> eggdrop is about the easiest thing that there is to compile, I would compile from source. only takes about 15 minutes on my B+
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[5:45] <djiboutiii> any of you smart guys able to help me with this? http://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/37sxmw/possible_to_install_noobs_without_sd_slot_on_a/
[5:47] <JK-47> buy a cheap usb card reader.
[5:47] <djiboutiii> crap
[5:47] <djiboutiii> there's no crazy method of getting it to work?
[5:48] <djiboutiii> that doesnt cost me any more money
[5:48] <JK-47> $5 will save your lots of headache
[5:48] <JK-47> http://www.raspipress.com/2013/05/install-and-run-raspbian-from-a-usb-flash-drive/
[5:48] <Froolap> pi hardware says MUST boot from sd.
[5:48] <JK-47> ahhh nm that link uses sd too
[5:49] <djiboutiii> alright alright. If it's just 5 bucks i can swing that
[5:49] <djiboutiii> thanks guys
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[5:49] <djiboutiii> this look okay? http://www.amazon.com/IOGEAR-MicroSD-Reader-Writer-GFR204SD/dp/B0046TJG1U/ref=sr_1_2?dd=LZXhe1-7DtCO_25cpo2O-g%2C%2C&ddc_refnmnt=pfod&ie=UTF8&qid=1432957765&sr=8-2&keywords=sd+card+reader
[5:49] <JK-47> walmart has a $6.05 PNY multislot reader
[5:50] <ThinkingofPython> You should be able to buy these sd readers at the dollar store
[5:51] <ThinkingofPython> Here in China, they're like 5 cents lol. in Canada, the dollar stores always had them
[5:51] <JK-47> never looked there
[5:51] <ThinkingofPython> Take a look :)
[5:51] <ThinkingofPython> Usually it'll be near the cheap cables and such
[5:51] <JK-47> good plan
[5:52] <ThinkingofPython> :)
[5:52] <JK-47> walmarts are usually 24 hours though if he wants to play now lol
[5:52] <Froolap> what country are you in?
[5:52] <JK-47> he's WA state
[5:52] <djiboutiii> creeper :)
[5:53] <Froolap> cvs, echards, and or a gas station should have one.
[5:53] <JK-47> ive been wasting all darn day cloning SDs on my mac. slot is so slow…
[5:53] <djiboutiii> gas stations? seriously?
[5:53] <djiboutiii> well ill just go get one tmrw. Thanks guys
[5:53] <JK-47> fred meyer too
[5:53] <djiboutiii> now thats my jam
[5:53] <djiboutiii> i could go to fred meyer
[5:54] <Froolap> yeah, you know them phone utils.
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[5:58] <pksato> raspberry pis model As ans CM can be boot from USB OTG. but, need a special sw on host computer.
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[6:03] <Froolap> CM???
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[6:06] <nickinchuggets> hi
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[6:17] <Froolap> ok, everyone say hi
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[6:22] <nickinchuggets> that's not how it works
[6:25] <pmumble> hai
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[6:32] <temmi_hoo> oh hay
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[6:32] <temmi_hoo> Froolap: compute module i'm guessing
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[6:42] <tf2manu994> anyone here?
[6:43] <Chillum> the channel is full of people
[6:43] <pmumble> define anyone
[6:44] <tf2manu994> human
[6:45] <pmumble> its possible
[6:45] <temmi_hoo> judging by yesterday, a lot of old farts who think the raspberry pi is plenty powerful and large
[6:45] <temmi_hoo> including me
[6:45] <tf2manu994> it is
[6:45] <pmumble> pi is mighty
[6:45] <tf2manu994> im waiting for my fans to come
[6:46] <tf2manu994> so i can overclock to turbo in australia
[6:46] <tf2manu994> without instacrashing
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[6:46] <temmi_hoo> ohhh overclocking and adding fans to computers that previously had none
[6:47] <temmi_hoo> i remember this from 20 years ago
[6:47] <temmi_hoo> or 25 was it?
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[6:47] <temmi_hoo> anyway when the new pentiums started to have cpu fans and everybody thought that this is just outrageous
[6:48] <steve_rox> i bet
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[6:48] <steve_rox> i think my p90 cpu was passive cooled heatsinked
[6:52] <tawr-tab> Heh
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[6:53] <tf2manu994> I have to wait for 2.5 more weeks for my pi :(
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[6:56] <pmumble> wow, why so long?
[6:56] <Froolap> I could build one in less time than that.
[6:56] <tf2manu994> shipping was fast, but then i need hdmi, power brick, etc
[6:56] <steve_rox> i dont think they do the kits
[6:57] <tf2manu994> pi came overnight
[6:57] <steve_rox> they worry about ppl being able to solder the smt's :-D
[6:57] <tf2manu994> everything else takes 2 weeks
[6:58] <Froolap> I gotta see if I still have my old cifs scripts laying around
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[6:59] <tf2manu994> anyone know if using a 5v fan would damage the gpio?
[6:59] <steve_rox> depends how much ma it pulls
[6:59] <tf2manu994> 5v
[6:59] <steve_rox> current
[7:00] <steve_rox> ive seen clowns put fans on the gpio and it instantly reboots the rpi from the power drain
[7:00] <Froolap> get a hampster and then keep your pi under that hampster's wheel and you don't need to power the fan.
[7:00] <temmi_hoo> steve_rox: what? depending on the package, smd's are easier
[7:01] <temmi_hoo> unless you go to 0204 and the like
[7:01] <steve_rox> well try solder the rpi main cpu
[7:01] <temmi_hoo> sorry, no :)
[7:01] <steve_rox> :-D
[7:01] <tf2manu994> http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/121599847881?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT this?
[7:01] <steve_rox> i built a DSO138 in these last few days
[7:02] <steve_rox> and that was kinda tricky
[7:02] <temmi_hoo> steve_rox: at the helsinki hacklab we're soon having a soldering oven so then 0204 bga cfn and the like become possible
[7:02] <temmi_hoo> although positioning 0204 will continue staying on the borderline of being doable and far from being enjoyable
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[7:03] <steve_rox> ah , i was soldering tiny smt resitors on with soldering iron
[7:03] <tf2manu994> the fan pulls 5v at .2a
[7:03] <steve_rox> the kind where if you sneeze they are gone
[7:04] <tf2manu994> anyone?
[7:04] <steve_rox> as long as you dont pull too much current from the gpio your be okay
[7:05] <steve_rox> a smoothing cap may help too maybe
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[7:06] <temmi_hoo> steve_rox: 0204 can be hand soldered but placing them is annoying beyond words
[7:06] <temmi_hoo> hold them down with tweezer, touch the gun and touch again and you're good
[7:06] <steve_rox> i had to improvise some tools to hold them in place
[7:07] <steve_rox> a wooden ice cream stick carved to a point
[7:07] <tf2manu994> is 5v and 0.2a safe?
[7:07] <steve_rox> then you haave to deal with the component sticking to the end of the iron
[7:07] <temmi_hoo> tf2manu994: yes, the raspi can give you that through its 5v supply
[7:07] <steve_rox> then its a race aggenst time to get it off before the iron totally destroys it
[7:07] <temmi_hoo> if you want fan control you want to hook an n channel mosfet to drive it from gpio
[7:08] <tf2manu994> temmi: safely?
[7:08] <steve_rox> i was thinking about heatsinking the rpi/fan but then i just noticed its prob go faster stripes and not too significant
[7:09] <steve_rox> if you were liveing in a hot desert enviroment mayyybe it would be a good idea
[7:09] <temmi_hoo> tf2manu994: yes it can
[7:09] <tf2manu994> temmi: thanks :D
[7:10] <temmi_hoo> if you power the raspi through usb, you might get trouble from too long too thin usb cable
[7:10] <temmi_hoo> lucky you, i just have a solution for you! http://igg.me/at/raspberry-poe/x/10905609
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[7:11] <steve_rox> i gave one my rpi's a minifan but it does not draw power from the rpi side
[7:11] <steve_rox> more before it gets to the rpi
[7:12] <temmi_hoo> tf2manu994: i'm suggesting you just let the fan rip full on without bothering any kind of control scheme to it
[7:13] <tf2manu994> yup
[7:13] <steve_rox> mine dont have any control on it
[7:13] <temmi_hoo> and then do consider power over ethernet
[7:13] <temmi_hoo> poe is cool
[7:13] <steve_rox> thats a expensive addon
[7:13] <temmi_hoo> it is, sorry about that
[7:13] <tf2manu994> eh, i dont have a poe router
[7:14] <steve_rox> since cooling the rpi is a sorta errelivent not too important you dont wanna spend insane ammounts
[7:14] <temmi_hoo> if it goes viral we could make the prices lower and add some cool stuff to our earlier backers
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[7:14] <tf2manu994> link to poe hat?
[7:14] <temmi_hoo> tf2manu994: ours is not a hat
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[7:15] <tf2manu994> Oooh, linky?
[7:15] <temmi_hoo> i just linked
[7:15] <tf2manu994> ah found it
[7:15] <temmi_hoo> we decidedly did want our connectors to go to raspberry pi edge
[7:15] <temmi_hoo> breaking hat spec
[7:16] <temmi_hoo> also we wanted to not have an eprom, breaking hat spec, so that you can add on any hat that has the eprom
[7:16] <tf2manu994> you guys should post that to reddit/r/raspberry_pi
[7:16] <tf2manu994> or should i?
[7:16] <temmi_hoo> then we wanted ours to have the unregulated poe power available should you ever want to need moar poar than the 1,3A 5V
[7:16] <temmi_hoo> i think i already did?
[7:17] <temmi_hoo> http://redd.it/37q4ap
[7:17] <tf2manu994> ah ok
[7:18] <temmi_hoo> thx for reminding, i want to crosslink it with the other thread about the pisupply kickstarter one
[7:18] <temmi_hoo> we were feeling pretty devastated on tuesday seeing that as we had been preparing to launch ours on wednesday
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[7:20] <steve_rox> rival products?
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[7:29] <temmi_hoo> had we known on february that pi supply had one cooking on slow simmer, we would not have made ours
[7:29] <temmi_hoo> getting to know about it on tuesday, we just thought argh shove it, just lets launch ours now that we did go through the trouble and all
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[7:30] <temmi_hoo> pi supply knew about ours so they kind of could have let us know "don't bother" or something
[7:30] <temmi_hoo> i mean, we would have just made a poe splitter board for some other sbc
[7:31] <tf2manu994> temmi: I like yours better
[7:31] <temmi_hoo> poe is cool, raspi is cool, arduinos are almost cool, bbb's are cool, many boards are cool and not all of them have poe cards
[7:31] <temmi_hoo> tf2manu994: thx
[7:32] <tf2manu994> shame it looks like yours wont get funded :(
[7:32] <temmi_hoo> there are some small differences, mostly the same though: everybody is using the silvertel ag9805
[7:32] <temmi_hoo> tf2manu994: you can help us with that
[7:33] <tf2manu994> I'm 13 :|
[7:34] <tf2manu994> I feel like your competitor launched before you on purpose
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[7:35] <temmi_hoo> oh well, you could hint your adult relatives about our device and that we're open sourcing all our designs and we also have software for a kind of internet of things distributed control system thing
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[7:36] <temmi_hoo> tf2manu994: we have an eerie feeling that might be the case but i'm not really willing to go as far as accusations
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[7:37] <temmi_hoo> i just wish we had known about it some moons ago so that we could have gone and make one for bbb instead and let pi supply have the raspi market
[7:37] <temmi_hoo> we just want everybody to have poe
[7:38] <tf2manu994> what's a bbb
[7:38] <Froolap> beagle bone black
[7:38] <tf2manu994> ah, okay
[7:38] <tf2manu994> why do none of these boards have poe built in
[7:40] <temmi_hoo> actually, we did a run of arduelli's back in may 2013
[7:40] <temmi_hoo> hold on
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[7:42] <temmi_hoo> https://plus.google.com/106599856185155563972/posts/aSeqJ9p94jd
[7:43] <tf2manu994> thats so cool
[7:43] <temmi_hoo> thx
[7:44] <temmi_hoo> that one is using stm32f051 as mcu so powerwise it's more an arduino than raspberry pi
[7:44] <temmi_hoo> pretty close to arduino due
[7:44] <tf2manu994> I know some of those words
[7:45] <temmi_hoo> it is a very very small ARM where the cpu in raspberries is a midsized one
[7:46] <tf2manu994> oh ok
[7:47] <tf2manu994> I hope you guys get funding! Good Luck!
[7:47] <tf2manu994> I posted it on reddit again
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[7:50] <temmi_hoo> a stupid question regarding reddit: does conversing in my thread up it or do you need to start new threads all the time?
[7:50] <tf2manu994> it needs to be upvoted to go to frontpage
[7:50] <tf2manu994> or you need a new thread
[7:51] <tf2manu994> :)
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[8:06] <tf2manu994> heyo
[8:06] <temmi_hoo> I think I'm just going to discuss things in threads where poe might be relevant as they appear, such as http://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/37qsn9/raspberry_pi_on_a_farm_project_ideas/
[8:07] <temmi_hoo> also, I'm not taking very emotional stance to this competitive product as I've already seen where flame wars on the internet go
[8:09] <tf2manu994> Haha, yea. Try pointing out that yours can provide the full 5v2a
[8:09] <temmi_hoo> why is 2A full? also, ours has an autofuse at 1,3A
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[8:10] <tf2manu994> oh. I don't know why 2a is full, it just seems to be max before overvolting
[8:11] <temmi_hoo> you might need to P=UI and U=RI that a bit :) anyhow our products are _really_ close to each other due to both using Silvertel Ag9805 module
[8:11] <tf2manu994> I have no clue what that means.
[8:12] <temmi_hoo> ohm's law
[8:12] <tf2manu994> the current through a conductor between two points is directly proportional to the potential difference across the two points
[8:12] <tf2manu994> that one
[8:12] <tf2manu994> ?
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[8:12] <tf2manu994> hi
[8:14] <temmi_hoo> pretty much yeah
[8:15] <temmi_hoo> that'd be the U=RI part
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[8:31] <AfterDarkness> is it possible to keep my eth connection while connecting to wlan? mean i can ssh in either of the ip addresses?
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[8:39] <skyroveRR> AfterDarkness: yes.
[8:42] <Froolap> just have to do some creative routing.
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[8:48] <MACscr> probably not the best place to ask, but anyone seen any pi cases with built in power supplies that will basically just plug into an outlet? Just seems like an obvious thing that I am surprised i havent found yet on google
[8:48] <JK-47> print one
[8:48] <JK-47> but really, why keep the heat of the wallwart transformer or joule theif next to the board, and not on the wall?
[8:49] <[Saint]> its not really any issue.
[8:49] <[Saint]> pi won't care.
[8:49] <MACscr> exactly, plus we are talking about an all in one solution
[8:49] <MACscr> no crappy cords
[8:50] <MACscr> and a great way to put a pi in each room for home automation stuff
[8:50] <MACscr> take temps, humidity levels, do voice commands, etc
[8:50] <JK-47> you still need a cord somewhere
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[8:50] <[Saint]> MACscr: have a look at the "Short Curst"
[8:51] <[Saint]> not /quite/ what you're after, but, close - with some creative cable management
[8:51] <MACscr> uh, why would you still need a cord?
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[8:51] <JK-47> you want to hardwire the pi?
[8:51] <[Saint]> http://shortcrust.net/
[8:51] <[Saint]> those are nice.
[8:51] <MACscr> thanks [Saint]
[8:52] <MACscr> nice looking, but doesnt seem to really do anything besides look nice =P
[8:52] <[Saint]> it puts all the cables in one place, at least, for a nicer aesthetic.
[8:52] <Ryccardo> MACscr: like this? https://photos.google.com/album/AF1QipPCc-Fl0crgGuxXPyPSR8YbE2wqM-gm53yLlpVD :)
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[8:53] <MACscr> Nope. More like a wall wart that also contains the pi
[8:54] <JK-47> do like the keysweeper did. put it in a wallwart ;) http://samy.pl/keysweeper/
[8:54] <JK-47> should be easy to print
[8:55] <MACscr> sure, if you have your own printer for such a thing. do you really think they are that common that most people have them?
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[8:55] <JK-47> almost every fedex kinkos has one now.
[8:55] <JK-47> in some regions
[8:56] <MACscr> 3d plastic printers?
[8:56] <JK-47> yes
[8:56] <MACscr> wow, i didnt know that. thats very interesting
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[8:56] <JK-47> take existing case 3d design. extend side. put holes for plug.
[8:57] <JK-47> or just use a 6" usb cable, and a screw next to the outlet like i do
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[9:01] <JK-47> modify one of these http://www.polycase.com/ps-series
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[9:04] <MACscr> cool. thanks!
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[9:16] <temmi_hoo> most public libraries in .fi seem to have a plastic extruder
[9:17] <SirLagz> anyone tried using random USB cables for temp sensors ? I'm taking apart a USB mouse cable to use for a DS18B20 sensor...
[9:17] <SirLagz> the gauge of the cable seems tiny
[9:18] <temmi_hoo> should be enough for a small power device that communicates digitally
[9:18] <temmi_hoo> dunno, really
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[9:18] <SirLagz> guess I'll try it and find out then
[9:18] <temmi_hoo> i'm using cat* cables for everything as they're everywhere
[9:18] <SirLagz> i'm using whatever scraps I can find
[9:18] <temmi_hoo> for me that exactly happens to very often be cat5
[9:20] <temmi_hoo> having used twisted pair networking from '91 or so might help the situation
[9:20] <SirLagz> I've been re-pinning some of the CD Audio cables that come with CD/DVD drives, but they're not exacly long
[9:20] <temmi_hoo> right
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[9:20] <Froolap> just get a piece of paper and a pencil and scribble your tracings with the pencil. the lead should be conductive enough......
[9:21] <SirLagz> Froolap: lol
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[9:21] <Froolap> you know in the old days when they had lead pencils rather than graphite, that actually worked
[9:22] <SirLagz> old days like how old ? I'm pretty sure graphite still conducts
[9:22] <Froolap> 50's and 60's
[9:22] <SirLagz> we were using lead pencils to overclock Athlons in the 90s :P
[9:23] <SirLagz> wait, 2000
[9:23] <SirLagz> I think that's when the athlon was released
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[9:24] <linuxthefish> what's the best way to stream smooth 640 x 480 from a webcam? i'm using motion right now but it struggles!
[9:24] <SirLagz> linuxthefish: ffmpeg is probably a bit easier on the cpu than motion
[9:25] <linuxthefish> thanks i'll check it out!
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[9:43] <MACscr> hmm, now that it think of it, a temperature sensor directly on a pi isnt going to work that great as the power adapter and the board itself is going put off heat and thus leading to poor readings from the temp sensor i would tink
[9:43] <MACscr> think
[9:45] <temmi_hoo> that indeed
[9:46] <temmi_hoo> so use a i2c or onewire or onewirish sensor mounted in a reasonable place
[9:46] <temmi_hoo> it's not like you have the 230vac socket conveniently located just where you'd want to measure anyway
[9:47] <MACscr> but i do, though only 110v here =P
[9:47] <temmi_hoo> you poor you have to deal with half the voltage!
[9:48] <temmi_hoo> more copper or more losses for the same power
[9:48] <MACscr> well it was a cool idea at first. lol
[9:48] <temmi_hoo> lucky you got on the ac train instead of dc
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[9:49] <temmi_hoo> also, the death chairs should be optimized for killing instead of just hooking into 110vac, if the intent really is to kill instead of just cause flesh burns and rippling pain to show visitors
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[9:50] <temmi_hoo> not that i'm supporting death sentences but it seems that the electric chair is not supporting them either
[9:50] <MACscr> bring back the firing line, cheaper
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[9:53] <temmi_hoo> sorry
[9:53] <temmi_hoo> i come from ircnet land of the free where we have no nickserve and chanserve and am just learning
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[9:59] <Froolap> just learning what?
[10:00] <temmi_hoo> how to chat with chanserv
[10:01] <temmi_hoo> i've set up and registered to chanserv #ELL-i as Teemu and had forgot my nickserv passwords for Teemu and temmi_hoo and needed to change the topic
[10:02] <temmi_hoo> prepend really
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[10:05] <Froolap> you changed the topic?
[10:05] <temmi_hoo> yes after finding about how to convince chanserv that i'm allowed to do so
[10:06] <Froolap> I didn't see a changed topic
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[10:06] <temmi_hoo> you're not on #ELL-i then?
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[11:09] <seriema> hi! loving my raspberry :D I'd like to run some linux thing (raspbian is fine) but also retropie. do I need two SD cards for that and manually switch, or is there another way?
[11:10] <ShorTie> 2 sdcards are best imho, but there is noobs that might help you
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[11:12] <seriema> I used noobs to install the default os. do you mean it could help install both?
[11:13] <ShorTie> i do believe so, that is what noobs is all about i believe
[11:14] <ShorTie> but never really used it
[11:14] <seriema> hmm must've missed that
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[11:15] <ShorTie> think you hit some Fx (F3 maybe) key on startup
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[11:30] <seriema> what should I look for? "double boot" or something?
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[11:32] <ShorTie> https://www.raspberrypi.org/introducing-noobs/ maybe
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[11:41] <seriema> I only see options for other os'es. but I think I understand what you mean. doesn't seem like retropie is supported in this way though.
[11:42] <seriema> another question, is it possible I killed my wifi usb dongle by plugging it in when the pi was running? I can't see it in the lsusb list. if I try it on my mac I can't see it there either
[11:45] <seriema> running `lsusb` on my raspberry gives me this, regardless if the usb wifi dongle is connected or not: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/2468abf62828ce8419f7
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[12:24] <info452-1> hi all!
[12:24] <info452-1> i have an 20x4 lcd dot matrix displays from the company powertip but i can-t make it work on rpi2
[12:25] <info452-1> i have wired the gpio with the current pins described on the owners manual of the lcd but the lcd simply does not showing anything even squares at start
[12:25] <info452-1> any tip_
[12:25] <info452-1> ?
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[12:26] <Encrypt> info452-1, Probably a problem of contrast
[12:26] <info452-1> Encrypt, on the raspberry pi spy web page they put the contrast pin on the gnd
[12:26] <info452-1> so i do the same but not work
[12:27] <Encrypt> Wut?
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[12:27] <Encrypt> That seems really weird
[12:27] <Encrypt> info452-1, Could you give me the link?
[12:27] <Encrypt> Of both your LCD display and this raspberry pi spy web page
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[12:28] <info452-1> http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2012/08/16x2-lcd-module-control-with-backlight-switch/
[12:28] <Ryccardo> info452-1: hmmmm, same here -- tuned the contrast on arduino and it was correct when shorted to ground, on pi it's very weak
[12:28] <Encrypt> "Pin 3 is now given a voltage of between 0V and 5V via the middle pin of a 10Kohm trimming pot so that the display contrast can be adjusted."
[12:28] <info452-1> this is get me crazy, i already tested two lcd
[12:29] <Encrypt> Connecting it to GND seems to me really weird
[12:29] <Encrypt> If you have a potentiometer, you should try that
[12:29] <info452-1> i will upload the schematic of the lcd
[12:29] <Ryccardo> Encrypt: isn't 0 between 0 and 5? :)
[12:29] <Encrypt> It is :P
[12:30] <Encrypt> Ryccardo, But the contrast will be so weak
[12:30] <Encrypt> It doesn't sound to me like a good idea
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[12:31] <Ryccardo> that's the weird thing, for some reason 0 was the best when using an arduino and an external power brick for the display, but not when only connected to a pi
[12:32] <Encrypt> I imagine it depends on the brand of the LCD display
[12:34] <info452-1> this is the lcd owners manual https://www.dropbox.com/s/rxrw631zt2qmm5t/PG12232WRM-CAN-EY1.pdf?dl=0
[12:35] <Encrypt> info452-1, You should enable the "public" folder
[12:35] <info452-1> as you can see on page 9
[12:35] <Encrypt> That's handy
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[12:36] <Triffid_Hunter> info452-1: most character LCDs use HD44780 or clone. sometimes they work with contrast grounded, sometimes they just look blank.
[12:36] <Triffid_Hunter> info452-1: one good feature of the HD44780 is that when it starts up, the top row has black blocks so you can get the contrast right with only power applied
[12:37] <Triffid_Hunter> ps: the HD44780 itself wasn't compatible with 3.3v logic, but most of the modern clones are
[12:37] <Ryccardo> yup, this thing you linked doesn't look like the standard Hitachi
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[12:37] <info452-1> mmm
[12:37] <info452-1> the lcd gets the power from another source not the pi
[12:38] <Triffid_Hunter> info452-1: forgot to connect grounds perhaps?
[12:38] <info452-1> i put the contrast to ground with the vss and the pin 16 also to gnd
[12:38] <info452-1> i don-t know, the lcd does not display the blocks when it starts
[12:39] <Ryccardo> does it have 16 or 18 pins?
[12:39] <info452-1> 18
[12:39] <info452-1> pin 15 and 16 is for the lcd backligh
[12:39] <Triffid_Hunter> info452-1: best slap a potentiometer on that contrast pin and have a fiddle with it
[12:40] <Ryccardo> yup, but the common Hitachis have 16 pins and from the manual this appears to have a different protocol
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[12:40] <info452-1> even without the rs, rw and enable pins, should display the squares on the start_
[12:40] <info452-1> ?
[12:41] <Ryccardo> yes, just with power on 1 and 2 (plus backlight if you want, but it's independent of the logic)
[12:41] <Triffid_Hunter> info452-1: yes precisely
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[12:41] <info452-1> mmm
[12:42] <info452-1> somethings wrong then, because with the pin 1, 2 and pin 16, 17 and the contrast to gnd no square are displaying
[12:42] <Triffid_Hunter> info452-1: getting a 404 on your manual pdf
[12:42] <info452-1> i moved it
[12:42] <info452-1> wait
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[12:42] <Triffid_Hunter> info452-1: I only have a couple of screens that work with contrast grounded, most of them need to be somewhere between 0 and 5v
[12:42] <info452-1> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/tpb6wp198hs7p85/AACdeSlrhpb4Oa8b9yf6OtC7a?dl=0
[12:42] <Triffid_Hunter> info452-1: in fact I have several that look completely blank with contrast grounded
[12:43] <info452-1> mmm
[12:43] <Triffid_Hunter> a zip? I was after the pdf :/
[12:43] <Ryccardo> it's inside
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[12:43] <info452-1> direct link https://www.dropbox.com/s/46ayhjx6b2fm6vn/PG12232WRM-CAN-EY1.pdf?dl=0
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[12:44] <Triffid_Hunter> thanks
[12:44] <info452-1> if i put the contrast pin to the 3.3v pin of the pi should do the work_
[12:44] <info452-1> ?
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[12:44] <Triffid_Hunter> info452-1: this is a graphic LCD, not a character LCD
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[12:45] <Ryccardo> well, doesn't look like you have a worse setting than 0, right? :)
[12:45] <info452-1> :p
[12:45] <andoma> is there a way to programatically get the rpi model?
[12:45] <Triffid_Hunter> although the protocol does look like HD44780 standard
[12:46] <info452-1> Triffid_Hunter, mmm
[12:46] <Triffid_Hunter> why would they specify pixel resolution for a character lcd? doesn't make sense
[12:46] <Ryccardo> andoma: I heard you can compare the revision numbers in /proc/cpuinfo to a table
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[12:46] <andoma> Ryccardo: make sense.. i wonder if there is such a table somewhere though?
[12:46] <Triffid_Hunter> info452-1: see page 9. it shows a pot for the contrast adjust
[12:47] <Triffid_Hunter> in fact they even have a negative voltage for it.. that's a bit cheeky
[12:47] <info452-1> mmm
[12:47] <Ryccardo> andoma: http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2012/09/checking-your-raspberry-pi-board-version/
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[12:47] <andoma> Ryccardo: ah, thanks a lot!
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[12:49] <info452-1> so they get the volts from the vdd and then with a 10k resistor low the volts to the contrast? maybe that why does not show the squares?
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[12:50] <Ryccardo> andoma: before checking the number, AND it with FFFFFF
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[12:50] <andoma> Ryccardo: hm ok. why?
[12:50] <AlephTwo> anybody here installed Gogs on a PI2?
[12:51] <Ryccardo> andoma: higher significant bits are used to indicate major overclock
[12:51] <andoma> ah ok
[12:51] <Triffid_Hunter> info452-1: yeah the contrast voltage needs to be at a specific voltage +/- about 0.8v for the screen to be visible. I don't have any screens that actually require a negative voltage, if yours needs one it's fairly easy to make with a charge pump
[12:51] <info452-1> the display looks great for any project, i have almost 150 of them that why i need to make it work :) check out the size https://www.dropbox.com/s/fhq5i2nl5r8a8xj/20150529_172433.jpg?dl=0
[12:52] <Triffid_Hunter> info452-1: looks like the ordinary size for 20x4
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[12:52] <Triffid_Hunter> info452-1: also, get some dual row housings and crimp pins rather than soldering directly to the expansion header :P
[12:53] <Triffid_Hunter> or even IDC connectors
[12:53] <info452-1> yeah my bad Triffid_Hunter
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[12:54] <Ryccardo> !!!!!!
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[12:55] <info452-1> you say 0.8v if i put to the pin 1 (3.3v) maybe is gonna burn?
[12:58] <Ryccardo> not likely, the example clearly shows it accepts up to 5, but it may not be an acceptable setting
[12:58] <info452-1> i just test it, no squares on startup
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[12:59] <Ryccardo> well, are you sure it's supposed to make them? the article you linked shows the common 16 pin displays...
[12:59] <info452-1> no i dont know >*
[12:59] <info452-1> :(
[13:05] <info452-1> well im gonna buy a potentiometer and see whats happen. with the gpio this screen show work ok right_
[13:05] <info452-1> ?
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[13:14] <info452-1> thanks for all the replys Triffid_Hunter, Encrypt, Ryccardo . Its the first time that i work with the gpio, i have some projects using pi but this is the first with the gpio.
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[13:34] <AlephTwo> I'm trying to install gogs onto one of my pi2's (guide here: http://www.atavendale.co.uk/2015/03/installing-gogs-on-a-raspberry-pi/) but I'm getting a permission denied error when attempting to run go. Anybody have any ideas why?
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[13:34] <grondilu> hello
[13:34] <grondilu> what's the standard way to upgrade the pi? 'apt-get dist-upgrade'?
[13:35] <grondilu> I'm on the debian image
[13:35] <grondilu> (raspbian that is)
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[13:41] <NedScott> grondilu: yep, same as you would on x86 Debian
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[13:44] <grondilu> ok
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[14:12] <ahop> ShorTie: I have now been able to go from 25secs boot time (by default) to 8sec boot time on a RaspbianJessie
[14:12] <ahop> I worked the whole night on this lol
[14:12] <ahop> The winner is: systemd, it's really amazingly good
[14:12] <ahop> Do CTRL+F "samplerbox" on http://gget.it/8keknzfs/plot6.svg
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[14:13] <ahop> You can make a service start less than 3 seconds after the bootloader has done its job :)
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[14:15] <ozzzy> hi
[14:15] <ozzzy> my granddaughter is being a pest
[14:17] <[Saint]> I hear good things about cages.
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[14:47] <ahop> Would you say "how to have a very fast boot time with a Raspberry Pi" or "on a Rasberry Pi" ?
[14:48] <ahop> => http://www.samplerbox.org/article/fastbootrpi
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[15:34] <osxyer> when i get my new rp2, can I just remove the sdcard from the pi and put it in the p2 and everything will run?
[15:35] <maxbots|mtw> osxyer: I am pretty sure the answer is no, but I am a newb so I may well be wrong
[15:36] <osxyer> duh, i dont want to reconfigure everything :/
[15:37] <maxbots|mtw> I could be wrong, I'm not sure how tightly compiled the programs are to the processor
[15:37] <maxbots|mtw> osxyer: http://thepihut.com/blogs/raspberry-pi-tutorials/16982376-updating-raspbian-on-your-microsd-for-the-raspberry-pi-2
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[15:38] <osxyer> i only install openelec
[15:38] <osxyer> I'll reinstall it
[15:38] <maxbots|mtw> There may be a similar tutorial for it
[15:38] <osxyer> just can't wait for the new p2 to get here....xmbc is so ridiculously slow
[15:38] <maxbots|mtw> heh
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[15:40] <osxyer> I wonder where I can get an official IRAN fifa shirt
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[15:53] <pksato> How Do Transistors Work? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUeK7pHe0rI
[15:54] <Encrypt> EEVBlog <3
[15:54] <Encrypt> This guy does really good videos
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[15:55] <maxbots|mtw> Not as good as ElectroBOOM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkGVMWK10qU
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[16:02] <Encrypt> maxbots|mtw, He is crazy
[16:02] <maxbots|mtw> definitely
[16:02] <maxbots|mtw> in a fun way though
[16:02] <Encrypt> Yeah
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[16:09] <strobelight> ElectroBOOM, too funny
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[16:12] <temmi_hoo> "so this is why you don't touch electricity with your tongue OUCH OUCH OUUUU"
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[16:15] <Bilby> G'morning *yawn*
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[16:27] <Chillum> Will the Pi be able to play h265 video with a firmware update one day? Or is h265 going to need new hardware?
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[16:34] <AlephTwo> Why am I getting perm denied when trying to run binaries on mounted HD as root? I have exec in the mount options.
[16:35] <strobelight> compiled for the right architecture?
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[16:35] <AlephTwo> It compiled without issue. I'm trying to install gogs
[16:36] <AlephTwo> It complains if I move it to the external HD and try to run it. I get permission denied.
[16:36] <strobelight> so it runs fine locally?
[16:36] <AlephTwo> It was failing to run locally, but was getting further (some config issue with http port)
[16:37] <AlephTwo> Now I get permission denied :(
[16:37] <AlephTwo> I'm suspecting something to do with how the drive is mounted
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[16:37] <strobelight> yes, could've mounted it read-only
[16:37] <AlephTwo> rw nosuid noexec
[16:38] <AlephTwo> even though I specified in fstab exec?
[16:38] <strobelight> noexec is the issue
[16:38] <temmi_hoo> ro execs okay unless noexec
[16:38] <AlephTwo> UUID=62ecd825-f31b-4e25-8506-0d229f181de8 /home/git/local ext4 rw,exec,user,errors=remount-ro 0 0
[16:38] <AlephTwo> still forces noexec?
[16:39] <strobelight> looks like if you get errors, remount as read only
[16:40] <AlephTwo> it's mounted rw
[16:40] <AlephTwo> /dev/sda1 on /home/git/local type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered)
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[16:42] <AlephTwo> Any idea why the kernel is overriding my mount options?
[16:42] <strobelight> "user" uid match?
[16:42] <AlephTwo> It's mounted to git user's local folder with owner/group git.git
[16:43] <AlephTwo> I can't run binaries either as root or git. It mounted with noexec,nosuid
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[16:44] <AlephTwo> can't run scripts either. Same permission denied
[16:44] <strobelight> it has to mount with exec, not noexec
[16:44] <strobelight> noexec means no execution allowed
[16:44] <AlephTwo> I have exec in mount options. It's forcing nosuid and noexec
[16:44] <AlephTwo> I can't figure out why
[16:45] <AlephTwo> $mount gives: /dev/sda1 on /home/git/local type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered)
[16:46] <AlephTwo> fstab setup thusly: UUID=62ecd825-f31b-4e25-8506-0d229f181de8 /home/git/local ext4 rw,exec,user,errors=remount-ro 0 0
[16:47] <AlephTwo> permissions on local folder (unmounted): drwxr-xr-x 2 git git
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[16:47] <AlephTwo> mount still puts it noexec :(
[16:48] <strobelight> hmm
[16:50] <AlephTwo> gonna go mount it defaults and see what happens
[16:50] <AlephTwo> reboot
[16:51] <AlephTwo> And I think that worked!
[16:51] <AlephTwo> ...almost... Now to figure out that port binding issue
[16:53] <strobelight> odd, would think noexec would be the norm
[16:54] <AlephTwo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab gives me defaults, which is rw,suid,dev,exec,auto,nouser,async
[16:55] <Ownix> Hey guys I have a toy that runs off of 2 AA batteries, is it possible to supply this same voltage and amperage to it through the GIPO?
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[16:55] <AlephTwo> Ownix: I wouldn't. You could power a transistor from the GPIO and use it to turn on & off a separate power supply
[16:56] <maxbots|mtw> The voltage probably, the amperage almost certainly not
[16:56] <Ownix> Hmm okay well look at this
[16:56] <SirLagz> woo got my 3 DS18B20s reading out to SNMP
[16:56] <Ownix> https://i.imgur.com/m6buPYx.jpg
[16:57] <Ownix> You see that 104 thing? There is a momentary switch attached to it
[16:57] <Ownix> I'm guessing it shorts the power supply to the device so it "restarts" and makes a noise
[16:57] <Ownix> https://i.imgur.com/MpWeINI.jpg
[16:58] <Ownix> https://i.imgur.com/tXCpNir.jpg
[16:58] <AlephTwo> yay!
[16:58] <Ownix> So does that mean I could somehow use the pi to replace the switch?
[16:58] <maxbots|mtw> Ownix: The 104 thing is a capacitor
[16:58] <Ownix> Ahhh
[16:58] <maxbots|mtw> You can definitely use the Pi
[16:58] <Ownix> So how does it make the device make a noise?
[16:59] <maxbots|mtw> you just can't use it without any other components
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[16:59] <maxbots|mtw> it is attached to that speaker?
[16:59] <Ownix> maxbots|mtw: what do you mean?
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[16:59] <maxbots|mtw> Guessing it is a buzzer more or less?
[16:59] <Ownix> Yes it makes a cat noise
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[16:59] <maxbots|mtw> You need a transistor to give you more current
[16:59] <Ownix> *meow*
[16:59] <Ownix> Three times
[17:00] <maxbots|mtw> Hmm... not sure then
[17:00] <maxbots|mtw> probably some other circuitry someplace
[17:00] <Ownix> maxbots|mtw: give me one second hold on
[17:00] <Ownix> I got another pic
[17:00] <maxbots|mtw> Ownix: Just so you know, I am _not_ the best guy to talk to about this :-)
[17:00] <maxbots|mtw> I know a bit, but far from an expert
[17:01] <maxbots|mtw> but I do know you will damage the IO pin and possibly the entire Pi if you try to draw too much current across a pin
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[17:06] <Ownix> maxbots|mtw: https://i.imgur.com/9Q0RIT8.jpg
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[17:06] <Ownix> I think I broke it though, I can't get it to make noises any more
[17:07] <maxbots|mtw> my guess is there is a small IC in there some place-- it might just look like a black blob
[17:07] <maxbots|mtw> but it's hard to say
[17:07] <Ownix> maxbots|mtw: https://i.imgur.com/yls16a1.jpg
[17:07] <maxbots|mtw> Yep
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[17:07] <maxbots|mtw> That is an intergrated circuit
[17:08] <maxbots|mtw> the actual sound signal is generated in there
[17:08] <Ownix> maxbots|mtw: that's what I assumed I think I killed it though
[17:08] <maxbots|mtw> it looks like there is a broken wire at the top solder pad in that pic
[17:08] <Ownix> It was working before I put little connectors on the wires
[17:08] <Ownix> Yeah some wires aren't used
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[17:09] <Ownix> Because it was hooked to a cat clock
[17:09] <maxbots|mtw> They probably were at one time and broke
[17:09] <Ownix> And the clock triggered it to make sounds at certain times of the day
[17:09] <maxbots|mtw> ah
[17:09] <maxbots|mtw> has it worked at all since you removed it?
[17:09] <Ownix> I disconnected it though and got it working without the clock through trial and error
[17:09] <Ownix> Yes
[17:09] <maxbots|mtw> ok
[17:09] <Ownix> Then I attached those little DuPont pin connectors and now it died
[17:10] <maxbots|mtw> hard to say what went wrong, might be fixable, might not
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[17:10] <maxbots|mtw> someone smarter than me might be able to give ou better troubleshooting advice
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[17:11] <maxbots|mtw> but as for activating it from the Pi, you need a transistor to let you drive more current than the Pi pin can handle
[17:11] <maxbots|mtw> should be plenty of sample circuits available, see the Arduino site for samples if nothing else
[17:12] <Ownix> maxbots|mtw: well did you see the pic with my desperate battery pack?
[17:12] <Ownix> Technically now all I need the pie to do is to complete the same circuit that the button does
[17:12] <maxbots|mtw> this one? https://i.imgur.com/9Q0RIT8.jpg
[17:12] <Ownix> Yeah
[17:12] <maxbots|mtw> Yes, I understand
[17:12] <Ownix> I have that power
[17:12] <maxbots|mtw> the voltage that puts out is similar to the pi, 3v instead of 3.3v
[17:13] <maxbots|mtw> the problem is the battery can put out a lot of current
[17:13] <maxbots|mtw> if you tried to switch that directly on the Pi, you would blow up the pin
[17:13] <maxbots|mtw> it can only handle a tiny amount of cuurrent
[17:13] <ShorTie> like 15-16ma
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[17:14] <Ownix> Ah
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[17:14] <ShorTie> think there is a total too, like 45-50ma
[17:14] <maxbots|mtw> This transistor is more than you need, but you need a circuit similar to http://bildr.org/2011/03/high-power-control-with-arduino-and-tip120/
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[17:15] <Ownix> maxbots|mtw: dude i just had an idea, why do i even need all this? I have this speaker
[17:15] <Ownix> Is there a way to just send the cat noise to the speaker?
[17:16] <maxbots|mtw> Yes, you could just generate the cat noise on the pi
[17:16] <maxbots|mtw> yoou would need to figure out how, or just record a real cat and play it back
[17:17] <Ownix> If that's the case I could just go buy a USB powered speaker and then generate a python script to do it
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[17:17] <maxbots|mtw> yep
[17:17] <Ownix> Hmm the real question is where can I go buy the cheapest speaker on a Saturday lol
[17:17] <maxbots|mtw> dunno that one
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[17:19] <grondilu> just realized something: I could use my RPi as a web proxy, right?
[17:19] <grondilu> because I have a chromebook and I can't install privoxy on that.
[17:24] <Encapsulation> I don't see why not
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[17:30] <temmi_hoo> sounds a bit like rewelcome to the 90s world wide wait
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[17:30] <Chillum> gopher for the win
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[17:39] <Tenkawa> hi all
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[17:41] <ShorTie> mornin
[17:41] <xylos> hi there
[17:43] <Tenkawa> hey
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[17:48] <grondilu> hum, that does not work. Not sure what I'm doing wrong: http://i.imgur.com/vVet3hK.png
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[17:50] <grondilu> I get this once I tried the config above: http://i.imgur.com/O7mhZdn.png
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[17:50] <Tenkawa> grondilu: what you trying to do?
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[17:50] <grondilu> use my Rpi as a web proxy
[17:51] <Tenkawa> ahh
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[18:00] <Thasan> grondilu: sudo netstat -lnp | grep 8118
[18:00] <Thasan> will that command give any output?
[18:01] <Thasan> on rpi
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[18:07] <grondilu> hang on
[18:07] <grondilu> $ sudo netstat -lnp | grep 8118
[18:07] <grondilu> tcp 0 0* LISTEN 10469/privoxy
[18:09] <grondilu> privoxy is running, I can check it by running HTTP_PROXY= elinks config.privoxy.org on the Pi
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[18:09] <Thasan> you have to edit listening interface.
[18:09] <Thasan> it listens just
[18:10] <Thasan> change it to
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[18:10] <grondilu> oh ok
[18:11] <Thasan> but dont connect it directly to internet with that
[18:12] <Thasan> otherwise it becomes public proxy
[18:13] <grondilu> can't I make it listen to my local network (192.168.*.*)?
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[18:14] <Thasan> hmm... yea thats possible I think... I'm not familiar with privoxy, but you can try to set it to your rpi ip
[18:15] <Thasan> then it binds to your rpi lan interface
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[18:16] <grondilu> it works now :)
[18:16] <Thasan> ok, good =)
[18:17] <grondilu> apparently I had to write use the IP with the 192.168. form
[18:17] <grondilu> on the listen-address indeed
[18:17] <Tenkawa> bb
[18:17] <Tenkawa> l
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[18:18] <grondilu> that's pretty cool. So far my Rpi is used as FTP server and a web proxy :)
[18:18] <Seckel> Hi, I'm having an issue with my raspberry pi where it will only occasionally boot, and sometimes freezes out of the blue when it does... Any ideas?
[18:18] <grondilu> Seckel: do you have a good SDcard?
[18:19] <grondilu> I4ve heard that it requires a good quality one. Or maybe yours is corrupted or something.
[18:19] <Seckel> I think so, but its only 4GB, could that be the issue? grondilu
[18:19] <Seckel> I was thinking it could be that...
[18:20] <grondilu> do you have a spare one? You could try with a fresh install and see if that's the issue.
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[18:20] <Seckel> I'll give it a go with the 32GB from my phone
[18:20] <Thasan> I making seat reservation system, I put NFC reader to rpi case and connected it to GPIO pins; now it can read tickets and sends those cards IDs to reservation system server with https post
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[18:21] <Seckel> awesome Thasan
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[18:22] <Thasan> next thing what I have to find out is how OAuth works XD
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[18:28] <AlephTwo> aaand a PI becomes my git repo :)
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[18:34] <frib> anybody know of a torrent application for raspbian that will run through socks proxy?
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[18:43] <SirLagz> wooo got my temperatures graphing in Zabbix
[18:44] <Froolap> and I was going to set up an ftp server on my pi. but alas..... noooooo
[18:45] <SirLagz> Froolap: not having any luck setting up an ftp server ?
[18:45] <Froolap> The rerason for setting one up kind of deflated.....
[18:46] <SirLagz> Froolap: what was the reason?
[18:46] <Froolap> I was going to build and share fedora22-pi remixes....
[18:46] <SirLagz> ah k
[18:46] <Froolap> I'm fairly close to being able to do that.....
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[18:48] <Froolap> There qare those that have a process in place for being able to do that, but they don't want to share and I'm not smart enough to reinvent the wheel.
[18:48] <SirLagz> I lost interest in the Pi a while ago...but now that I've built my own temp sensor servery thingy, I might start doing more on my Pi again
[18:49] <Froolap> I've been trying to make my pi communicate across 3 independent network segments.
[18:50] <SirLagz> Froolap: that's always fun
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[18:51] <seriema> I've been getting locale warnings, so I ran `$ sudo locale-gen sv_SE.UTF-8` but the output said `en_GB.UTF-8... done`
[18:52] <seriema> whats up with that?
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[18:54] <Seckel> SirLagz: Whats your temperature sensor thing?
[18:55] <SirLagz> Seckel: got 3 DS18B20s measuring intake temp, exhaust temp, and ambient temp. The intake and exhaust is on one of my vmware home-lab servers
[18:55] <SirLagz> Seckel: and it's graphed using Zabbix and SNMP polls
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[18:56] <Seckel> What are you measuring the temperature of?
[18:56] <SirLagz> Seckel: just air temp
[18:56] <Seckel> ah nice
[18:57] <Seckel> I was unsure what you meant by intake and exhaust temp, just made me think of diesel engines xD SirLagz
[18:57] <SirLagz> Seckel: just something I've wanted to do for a while
[18:57] <SirLagz> Seckel: haha. don't know how well these sensors would do with those temps
[18:57] <SirLagz> probably melt away :p
[18:57] <Seckel> SirLagz: yeah haha, what does intake and exhaust temp mean?
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[18:58] <SirLagz> Seckel: got a temp sensor in front of the intake fan on the server, and a sensor in front of the exhaust fan on the server...exhaust fan is actually the PSU fan, but hey, I'll get whatever I can lol
[18:58] <Encrypt> seriema, Did you try: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales" ?
[18:59] <Seckel> ohhhh now I understand lol
[18:59] <SirLagz> Seckel: something simple to start me off on my Raspberry Pi and Real World thing journey
[18:59] <Seckel> SirLagz: sounds sweet, I might have a look at temperature sensors
[18:59] <seriema> Encrypt: I just did, but `locale` is still set to en_GB
[18:59] <SirLagz> Seckel: so now I'll know how cold it's getting at night lol
[18:59] <seriema> Encrypt: when I ran the dpkg-... I choose sv_SE as well as en_GB
[18:59] <SirLagz> Seckel: or how hot it's getting when the missus turns the damn heater on
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[19:00] <Encrypt> seriema, Did you try an export?
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[19:00] <seriema> Encrypt: export?
[19:01] <Encrypt> export LC_ALL=sv_SE.UTF-8
[19:01] <Seckel> SirLagz: haha, I'd like to get into real world sensing, so perhaps I'll do something similar
[19:01] <Encrypt> seriema, Hum... export LANG=sv_SE.UTF-8
[19:01] <Encrypt> That will be better
[19:02] <Encrypt> seriema, With sudo: sudo export LANG=sv_SE.UTF-8
[19:02] <SirLagz> Seckel: now that one of my Pis is dedicated to temp sensing, I'll need to get more haha
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[19:02] <Seckel> SirLagz: Did you follow/know of any guides?
[19:03] <Encrypt> seriema, Though, after running dpkg-reconfigure locales, the system must have asked you which default language to use in the system?
[19:04] <SirLagz> Seckel: not really.
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[19:04] <SirLagz> Seckel: found out how which pins i needed to hook it to from the pin out
[19:04] <SirLagz> Seckel: had a look at the datasheet for the DS18B20s for the pin out
[19:04] <SirLagz> Seckel: found out that I needed a 4K7 for the pullup from a quick google for "raspberry pi ds18b20"
[19:04] <SirLagz> and that google gave me pretty much everything else
[19:05] <SirLagz> Seckel: I've written up a guide anyway for myself, it'll be on my blog in a week or so
[19:05] <Seckel> SirLagz: Sweet, got a link? Also I can probably set up the electronics, just the graphing I have no idea how to do
[19:06] <SirLagz> Seckel: I've gone way overkill for the graphing. Zabbix is a full enterprise monitoring system that I'm running at home haha
[19:06] <SirLagz> Seckel: also, my blog is http://sirlagz.net
[19:06] <SirLagz> Seckel: been a while since I've posted any Pi stuff, but I've scheduled the blog post for the temp sensing for Thursday
[19:07] <seriema> Encrypt: it didn't, but I've noticed something (I'm a *nix noob) that when I just press enter on an option instead of tab to the "confirm" option and then press enter then things seems to hang for a little while
[19:07] <Encrypt> Yeah :p
[19:07] <Encrypt> I don't remember what I did
[19:07] <Encrypt> But changing the language wasn't that intuitive
[19:07] <Seckel> SirLagz: oh I see haha, I'll keep an eye out for your post :P
[19:08] <SirLagz> Seckel: haha, sorry, I'm trying to keep my blog "fresh" with content, so I've started scheduling it
[19:08] <seriema> Encrypt: should I run `sudo export LANG=sv_SE.UTF-8` then?
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[19:08] <Encrypt> seriema, Did ou select your language with dpkg-reconfigure locales ?
[19:09] <Encrypt> What does "locales" show?
[19:09] <seriema> Encrypt: I selected both en_GB and sv_SE. locales shows en_GB
[19:09] <Seckel> SirLagz: No worries, gives me some time to tinker with my attempted Kodi TV raspberry pi setup anyway, as that didn't work out
[19:09] <Encrypt> Ok
[19:09] <Encrypt> Try the export, yeah
[19:09] <SirLagz> Seckel: do you have the Pi 1 or Pi 2 ?
[19:09] <Seckel> SirLagz: Pi 1
[19:10] <seriema> Encrypt: "sudo: export: command not found" =/
[19:10] <SirLagz> Seckel: ah k, same as me then heh
[19:10] <Seckel> SirLagz: I had considered the amount of RAM may have been the problem, but it just didn't work as I'd hoped
[19:10] <Encrypt> seriema, What is the operating system?
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[19:10] <Encrypt> Is it Raspbian?
[19:10] <knob> Hello everyone. Got an odd question. I setup a rPi with a camera board. I use the following command line (**below**) to start the "streaming" of the rPi. I then open up VLC on a laptop, and watch the stream. This helps me point the camera up/down/side/etc. The problem is that after 50-60 seconds, the stream stops. Any better idea to make the stream? I don't need full frames per second. One frame per second is more than enough.
[19:10] <knob> raspivid -fps 1 -o - -t 99999 |cvlc -vvv stream:///dev/stdin --sout '#standard{access=http,mux=ts,dst=:8090}' :demux=h264
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[19:12] <seriema> Encrypt: raspbian yeah
[19:12] <Encrypt> Ok
[19:13] <Encrypt> seriema, Are you logged in as root?
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[19:13] <seriema> Encrypt: well, the default account `pi`
[19:14] <Encrypt> I don't remember is "pi" has sudo rights...
[19:15] <seriema> Encrypt: well I run sudo on most things anyway
[19:15] <Encrypt> Ok
[19:15] <Encrypt> Try an export without sudo then
[19:16] <Encrypt> seriema, Or $ sudo su
[19:16] <seriema> Encrypt: huh, that ran but it didn't say anything
[19:16] <Encrypt> And then run the export command
[19:16] <Encrypt> seriema, $ locales ;)
[19:16] <Encrypt> You'll see that things have changed
[19:16] <seriema> Encrypt: only this changed: LANG=sv_SE.UTF-8
[19:16] <Encrypt> Yeah
[19:17] <seriema> Encrypt: eh which I guess is what I just did :P
[19:17] <Encrypt> Yep
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[19:17] <Encrypt> seriema, https://wiki.debian.org/ChangeLanguage
[19:18] <seriema> Encrypt: thx! seems like I've done those things though? I ran the configure thing to have sv_SE available. and I've only set the LANG to it.
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[19:19] <Encrypt> Yeah
[19:19] <Encrypt> I think that if LANG is set, this overrides the value of all the other language environment variables
[19:20] <Encrypt> I'm not 100% sure though
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[19:23] <seriema> Encrypt: hmm ok. I'll go back to it if it starts giving me warnings all over again =)
[19:23] <seriema> anyone know of the proper way to install nodejs today? I've found a bunch of guides, but they always have a "this is the old way" mention somewhere. apt-get seems to get a legacy version?
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[19:28] <FlyingPersian> su
[19:28] <FlyingPersian> p
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[19:29] <FlyingPersian> do I understand correctly that it isn't possible to fully boot off a USB stick?
[19:30] <pksato> yes
[19:30] <pksato> no boot from usb.
[19:30] <FlyingPersian> damn
[19:30] <SirLagz> I wonder what ever happened to the guy(s?) who were booting the Pi A off USB
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[19:30] <FlyingPersian> I don't wanna wait till money for my sd card :'(
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[19:31] <FlyingPersian> they never made it back SirLagz
[19:31] <pksato> On As and CM is possible.
[19:31] <pksato> on Bs not.
[19:31] <SirLagz> pksato: did anyone do anything useful with USB booting on the A and the CM ?
[19:31] <pksato> probable no.
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[19:32] <SirLagz> pity. Could have made for some interesting setup options
[19:32] <FlyingPersian> A CM Bs?
[19:32] <FlyingPersian> raspberry pi a, b and CM�
[19:32] <pksato> As I know, USB boot is from host transfer, not storage, pendrive.
[19:32] <SirLagz> pksato: indeed it was
[19:34] <seriema> http://node-arm.herokuapp.com/ seems to be 0.12.1 while the latest is 0.12.4 ? should I be using something else?
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[19:46] * SirLagz wonders how hard it is to control a house exhaust fan with a Pi
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[19:47] <ozzzy> pretty simple
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[19:47] <SpeedEvil> SirLagz: do you mean on/off, or varying speed
[19:47] <SpeedEvil> on/off is easy
[19:47] <SirLagz> SpeedEvil: just on/off
[19:48] <SirLagz> on when ambient temperature is above a certain amount, then turn it off if it drops below set threshold
[19:49] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-pcs-New-Solid-State-Relay-SSR-40DA-40A-3-32VDC-/141238330912?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item20e275e620 - for example
[19:49] <SpeedEvil> you would conect the input of that with a 1K resistor to a GPIO, and to the pis ground.
[19:49] <SpeedEvil> And the other side in series with a fan.
[19:50] <SirLagz> SpeedEvil: see, I was hoping to avoid having to do that, and just wiring something directly to the switch on the wall lol
[19:50] <SpeedEvil> What do you mean.
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[19:51] <pksato> buy some high priced home automation kit
[19:51] <AlephTwo> servo in a box, with a lever to push the button
[19:51] <SirLagz> SpeedEvil: I'm going to have a switch next to the light switch for the exhaust fan...I'm wondering if theres a way to toggle that switch with the Pi rather than toggling that relay, because if I use that relay, it'll be in the roof cavity, and I'd like to keep the Pi out of the roof cavity
[19:51] <SpeedEvil> ah
[19:51] <SirLagz> AlephTwo: heh...that reminds me of the stupidest machine ever.
[19:51] <AlephTwo> :)
[19:53] <SirLagz> AlephTwo: actually it was the "Useless machine advanced edition" that your statement reminded me of heh
[19:53] <SirLagz> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djc8FPHs45o
[19:53] <AlephTwo> But if you don't want to interface directly with the fan, then that's the way to go :)
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[19:54] <SirLagz> This isn't something I actually need to do for another few months, but I'm gathering ideas now
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[19:56] <pksato> SirLagz: https://www.raspberrypi.org/controlling-electrical-sockets-with-energenie-pi-mote/
[19:56] <SirLagz> Actually I could probably use some cat5 to extend the GPIO into the roof cavity
[19:56] <AlephTwo> microcontroller (arduino/etc) attached to fan power system via relay. IR receiver on the arduino, IR transmitter on the pi
[19:56] * SirLagz clicks
[19:56] <SirLagz> AlephTwo: yeah I was considering that idea too
[19:56] <AlephTwo> Or a web-enabled power socket & plug the fan into that
[19:57] <AlephTwo> some fancy pi scripting and you have wifi temperature controller
[19:57] <SirLagz> AlephTwo: that's also a possibility...though I'm pretty sure it's illegal for me to replace the power socket. Not that it's going to stop me from doing that heh
[19:57] <AlephTwo> Ceiling fan?
[19:57] <SirLagz> AlephTwo: yep
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[19:57] <pksato> http://www.instructables.com/id/Raspberry-Pi-GPIO-home-automation/
[19:57] <SirLagz> AlephTwo: I already have the Temperature sensor sorted lol
[19:57] <AlephTwo> You could find where it hooks into your mains supply and get an electrician to put a socket there
[19:58] <SirLagz> AlephTwo: I know where it's going to hook into the mains supply
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[19:58] <AlephTwo> Then, put a wifi enabled plug on the fan end, plug it in and hope you don't blow up :)
[19:58] <SirLagz> AlephTwo: this is for a planned room
[19:58] <SirLagz> AlephTwo: so the room isn't built yet
[19:59] <SirLagz> pksato: that energie pi mote is pretty cool
[20:00] <AlephTwo> Personally, I'd go with an arduino yun and mains relay at the fan outlet. Control it via the wifi/ethernet.
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[20:00] <SirLagz> AlephTwo: that sounds like a good plan
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[20:00] <AlephTwo> It's the simplest solution, hence most likely to work
[20:01] <AlephTwo> You will have to ensure that your on/off switch in the room can override it though
[20:01] <SirLagz> AlephTwo: thaaat's going to be a problem...
[20:01] <AlephTwo> Solution: On/off switch is hooked up to the yun.
[20:01] <SirLagz> I wonder if I could get the Arduino to fail open
[20:02] <SirLagz> the On/Off switch will be what's supplying power to the Fan and arduino
[20:02] <AlephTwo> there'y'go
[20:03] <AlephTwo> power on and then control via web-app
[20:03] <SirLagz> eh true
[20:03] <SirLagz> until the Arduino fails for whatever reason lol
[20:03] <AlephTwo> Shouldn't do.
[20:04] <AlephTwo> If you have it hooked up to ethernet, and also throw in a couple of leads to the spi bus so you can connect directly from a debug port somewhere
[20:04] <AlephTwo> think phone-type socket under the switch or something
[20:04] <SirLagz> I guess as long as the Arduino can survive ~50ish degrees celsius, it should be fine
[20:06] <ant_thomas> Might be an obscure question, has anyone connected a Bluetooth GPS receiver directly to an RPi without using Bluetooth? I'm thinking wired directly over serial somehow.
[20:06] <AlephTwo> ATMega 328 are rated for -40 to +85 C
[20:07] <SirLagz> AlephTwo: cool. That should be fine for my roof cavity then :D
[20:07] <AlephTwo> You could put a thermistor in the yun enclosure and when it gets too hot, trigger a shutdown or warning
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[20:08] <SirLagz> AlephTwo: or I could stick another temp sensor in the roof cavity to let me know when it gets hot :D
[20:08] <SirLagz> so many options
[20:08] <AlephTwo> If it's insulated, it shouldn't exceed 60/70 C up there, unless you are in v. hot climes
[20:10] <AlephTwo> If it does get too hot, then you can just install an extraction fan in the yun case, along with some air holes
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[20:10] <SirLagz> AlephTwo: true. Guess I'll go with that idea and see how it goes when it gets built in a few months hopefully
[20:11] <AlephTwo> I think you'll be good. You could hook up a yun and throw it in an oven at 70C to see how it handles :)
[20:11] <SirLagz> haha
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[20:13] <FlyingPersian> god damn I just found a micro SD card, but I don't have an adapter :o
[20:13] <AlephTwo> Of it it's already hot, then you could hook one up in the loft now with a sensor & monitor the temp
[20:13] <SirLagz> AlephTwo: nope, winter at the moment
[20:13] <AlephTwo> FlyingPersian: No tablet with spare usd slot?
[20:14] <FlyingPersian> could I hook up the tablet and format the SD card then?
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[20:15] <AlephTwo> I think that if you can get the image onto the tablet's internal storage, then drop the usd into the tablet, you might be able to find a dd type command
[20:15] <FlyingPersian> hm okay
[20:15] <SirLagz> AlephTwo: that's only if the tablet is rooted.
[20:15] <FlyingPersian> bust I think tablets have a normal SD slot right?
[20:15] <AlephTwo> you may need root
[20:15] <AlephTwo> Mine has microsd (usd)
[20:15] <SirLagz> FlyingPersian: my tablet has both Normal SD card and Micro SD Card
[20:15] <FlyingPersian> hm I don't have one anymore, gotta check out my mom's
[20:16] <AlephTwo> You may have to find some linux shell tools or similar though. It's all a hypothesis until my tablet boots up
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[20:17] <AlephTwo> FlyingPersian: terminalide has the 'dd' command. You may have to be root to write to usd though directly...
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[20:19] <FlyingPersian> I think my aunts tablet has a sd adapter
[20:19] <AlephTwo> you don't have usd->sd adapter?
[20:19] <AlephTwo> They generally come with new usd cards
[20:20] <FlyingPersian> naw I used to have one couple years ago
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[20:20] <FlyingPersian> oh
[20:20] <FlyingPersian> well I do, but at my place
[20:20] <AlephTwo> Shame. I have about 8 now
[20:20] <FlyingPersian> I live 1h away :D
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[20:20] <FlyingPersian> I used to have some, but don't ask me were they are
[20:20] <FlyingPersian> I haven't used SD cards in years
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[20:20] <AlephTwo> What about your phone? If you have a (rooted?) android phone, you may be able to do it there, assuming you can drop the image onto your internal storage.
[20:21] <FlyingPersian> nexus 4
[20:21] <FlyingPersian> doesn't fit SD cards
[20:21] <FlyingPersian> I have an old phone with micro sd, but I think I bricked that one a while ago :D
[20:21] <AlephTwo> no microsd slot internally?
[20:21] <FlyingPersian> nope the nexus for doesn't have an sd slots
[20:22] <AlephTwo> No neighbors or friends nearby with any microsd adapters? sd card readers? anything?
[20:23] <FlyingPersian> I'm trying the tablet
[20:23] <Great-Geek> FlyingPersian, If you root the tablet, busybox should have dd (or atleast a stripped-down version)
[20:24] <FlyingPersian> god damn
[20:24] <FlyingPersian> naw it's not my tablet
[20:24] <AlephTwo> You can install TerminalIDE from the store w/o root, but I don't know about permissions to poke at /dev/mmcbln
[20:24] <FlyingPersian> and I can't format the sd card
[20:24] <AlephTwo> Then you are well and truly fucked
[20:25] <AlephTwo> Unless you want to diy a usd->sd adapter
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[20:25] <AlephTwo> take inspiration from this guy: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=25185
[20:25] <FlyingPersian> :D
[20:26] <FlyingPersian> naw I'm good
[20:26] <FlyingPersian> D
[20:26] <FlyingPersian> hm
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[20:26] <AlephTwo> Just one quick tablet root. I couldn't possibly hurt. What could go wrong????
[20:26] <AlephTwo> >:)
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[20:27] <AlephTwo> FlyingPersian: What computing hardware do you have access to?
[20:27] <FlyingPersian> I wish I could put the files on my USB stick and then copy them over to the SD card in the tab
[20:27] <FlyingPersian> tablet and laptop
[20:28] <AlephTwo> k. You have a cable for tablet?
[20:28] <Great-Geek> FlyingPersian, Don't think of it..
[20:28] <Seckel_> After replacing SD card, my rasp pi is still only sometimes booting :(
[20:28] <SirLagz> Seckel_: bugger
[20:29] <FlyingPersian> why not Great-Geek ?
[20:29] <AlephTwo> If you can enter debug mode & go in over usb, you may be able to access the microsd filesystem
[20:29] <FlyingPersian> I want to install raspbmc
[20:29] <AlephTwo> FlyingPersian: (not your tablet, so don't root it :)
[20:29] <FlyingPersian> yeah the thing is that the tablet is in farsi :D
[20:29] <FlyingPersian> I won't root it
[20:29] <FlyingPersian> I can't read damn farsi
[20:29] <Great-Geek> AlephTwo, FlyingPersian, Android exposes the sdcard over MTP/PTP/fusermount
[20:30] <AlephTwo> Great-Geek: So you can dd to the card from userspace?
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[20:30] <Seckel_> Can anyone assist with my boot issue if possible?
[20:30] <Great-Geek> AlephTwo, From recovery. But that is significantly risky
[20:30] <SirLagz> Seckel_: what's happening when it tries to boot ?
[20:31] <AlephTwo> Seckel_: You could visually inspect the pins in the slot, ensure they all contact
[20:31] <FlyingPersian> yes it does, can I make it appear as normal device like when I put a SD card into my laptop ?
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[20:32] <Great-Geek> FlyingPersian, You don't want to dd to a live card.
[20:32] <FlyingPersian> yeah it won't work anyway
[20:32] <Seckel_> SirLagz: AlephTwo: I power it up, power light is on, activity light is on dimly and nothing happens
[20:32] <FlyingPersian> the tablet isn't rooted
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[20:32] <FlyingPersian> so I actually need an adapter right?
[20:32] <SirLagz> Seckel_: does pushing down on the SD card while it's booting help ?
[20:32] <Great-Geek> FlyingPersian, Root isn't required, you need a custom recovery
[20:32] <FlyingPersian> don't have that as well on the tab
[20:32] <FlyingPersian> only my phone
[20:33] <AlephTwo> Seckel_: Your power supply may be insufficient.
[20:33] <Seckel_> SirLagz: No change :/
[20:33] <Seckel_> AlephTwo: I've tried 4 different PSUs
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[20:33] <SirLagz> Seckel_: I'm assuming you've tried different SD cards too ?
[20:33] <SirLagz> Seckel_: and different USB cables?
[20:33] <Great-Geek> Seckel_, Dim activity light means it cant read card or p1/start.elf
[20:33] <AlephTwo> Seckel_: Do other pi images work?
[20:34] <Great-Geek> Seckel_, How did you write the image to the card ?
[20:34] <AlephTwo> You may be trying to boot an invalid or corrupt image
[20:34] <AlephTwo> FlyingPersian: I suspect that you'll have to wait until you can get access to a usd reader. I'd go ask the neighbors if they have anything
[20:35] <Great-Geek> Well, a dim ACT light is present up until start.elf is exec'd correctly
[20:35] <Seckel_> SirLagz: yes to both
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[20:36] <Seckel_> Great-Geek: I used Win32DiskImager to write img file
[20:36] <Seckel_> AlephTwo: I'll try another image
[20:36] <Great-Geek> FlyingPersian, If you have a regular sdcard reader on laptop / whatever, the sdcard-microsd adapter is pretty cheap
[20:36] <Great-Geek> Seckel_, Did you verify the checksum ?
[20:37] <Seckel_> Great-Geek: How? I don't think so
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[20:38] <Great-Geek> Seckel_, Look for ways to verify an MD5SUM on windows, there's a program, but I'm not too sure
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[20:38] <SirLagz> 2:30 AM. Bedtime. night!
[20:38] <AlephTwo> Seckel_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM has some help for windows users trying to verify images
[20:38] <AlephTwo> SirLagz: nn o7
[20:39] <Froolap> what is the MD5SUM?
[20:39] <Seckel_> SirLagz: bye!
[20:39] <Great-Geek> Froolap, It's an integrity check
[20:39] <AlephTwo> Froolap: It's a checksum to ensure that the image you downloaded contained all the same bytes, in the same order, as the image online
[20:39] <Great-Geek> Froolap, Even a small difference will result in a different md5sum
[20:40] <AlephTwo> Where you download the image from will usually have a checksum (like 24ea1163ea6c9f5dae77de8c49ee7c03) for their image.
[20:40] <AlephTwo> You download the image, do your own checksum & confirm that the same number is generated
[20:40] <AlephTwo> different == problem
[20:41] <Great-Geek> Also, if you're working on a mounted img, you may want to md5 it before flashing what you think is the original image
[20:42] <Great-Geek> Froolap, Since you plan on making a remix, soak up this knowledge
[20:42] <Seckel_> Great-Geek: Done, but where do I find the original md5sum for the file?
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[20:42] <AlephTwo> on the site where you downloaded the image from
[20:42] <Great-Geek> Seckel_, Where'd you download from ?
[20:43] <AlephTwo> Usually next to the download link
[20:44] <Seckel_> I found it, but when I downloaded it, it was zipped in .gz format. Do i compare the .gz file or the img?
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[20:44] <Great-Geek> Seckel_, Try both :P
[20:44] <AlephTwo> ^- easiest solution
[20:45] <Seckel_> ok they are the same before unzipping, and I imagine winrar didn't corrupt it
[20:45] <FlyingPersian> Great-Geek, I'm getting an micro SD card on money + adapter
[20:45] <FlyingPersian> *monday
[20:45] <FlyingPersian> but I don't wanna wait :D
[20:46] <Seckel_> AlephTwo: I'll try your idea of a different img next, best image to try? or just any..
[20:46] <AlephTwo> What pi do you have?
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[20:46] <Seckel_> AlephTwo: Pi 1 Model B
[20:47] <Froolap> Great-Geek: I think I just gave up on making a remix. It's beyond my ability. I wasn't really interested in running f22, f21 does everything that I need.
[20:47] <AlephTwo> You want an armv6 I believe
[20:48] <Great-Geek> AlephTwo, Yes, armv6 it is
[20:48] <Froolap> I was just trying to make rpi2b fedora images so that others would be happy. but..... iwhile i can make an image tthat boots, it appears I can't share, so it's pointless.
[20:49] <Great-Geek> Froolap, I made a script just to get around that restriction.
[20:49] <Froolap> it didn't work for me. I couldn't fix it.
[20:49] <Great-Geek> Froolap, I could've made images, easy. But providing support in the long run would be annoying
[20:50] <Great-Geek> Froolap, I found what was wrong with the old script
[20:50] <Great-Geek> Froolap, I forgot to set the proper flags on partition1 there
[20:51] <Froolap> that would do it.
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[20:51] <Seckel_> I'm giving raspbian a go now
[20:52] <Seckel_> once its downloaded 990MB...
[20:52] <FlyingPersian> would it help to have a phone with an micro sd card slot Great-Geek ?
[20:52] <Froolap> there ought to be a package that strips out the fedora logo......
[20:53] <Great-Geek> FlyingPersian, If it has twrp, yes
[20:53] <FlyingPersian> mine does :D
[20:53] <Great-Geek> FlyingPersian, But nexus
[20:53] <FlyingPersian> yessir
[20:53] <FlyingPersian> that's the thing
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[20:54] <FlyingPersian> I wish my damn motorola defy would boot up
[20:54] <Great-Geek> FlyingPersian, Got a OnePlus here, similar issue with microsd. Always need to search for my adapter
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[20:54] <FlyingPersian> I never need an sd card
[20:54] * AlephTwo mutters foully about crappy routers
[20:54] <FlyingPersian> I had my moto defy like 4 years ago
[20:55] <FlyingPersian> never used a sd card since then
[20:55] <AlephTwo> moto defy was an awesome phone
[20:55] <AlephTwo> went through 4 I think
[20:55] <AlephTwo> Just not *quite* as rugged as I'd want :)
[20:56] <Great-Geek> Defy sounds very familiar.. Did it have a TeamEOS ROM, by any chance?
[20:56] <AlephTwo> TeamOS?
[20:56] <AlephTwo> I think so
[20:56] <AlephTwo> Although that could be my tablet
[20:56] <Great-Geek> AlephTwo, Say you had a xoom :P
[20:57] <AlephTwo> Sorry Asus TF300T
[20:57] <AlephTwo> With keyboard, so multiple usd slots and also an sd slot :)
[20:57] <FlyingPersian> yeah I loved it AlephTwo
[20:57] <FlyingPersian> till it died
[20:57] <FlyingPersian> back then at least the white LED went on when I plugged it in
[20:57] <FlyingPersian> now that even won't work :D
[20:58] <Great-Geek> We did the TF300, almost sure
[20:58] <AlephTwo> TeamOS was the one with the lightning
[20:58] <AlephTwo> ?
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[20:58] <giddles> hello
[20:58] <giddles> no public key..
[20:58] <AlephTwo> Animated lightning bootup logo
[20:58] <giddles> what about this problem while sudo apt-get update
[20:59] <Seckel_> Great-Geek: I'm gonna get a one plus one too :P
[20:59] <Great-Geek> AlephTwo, not sure what we used in those days
[20:59] <AlephTwo> Yeah, pretty sure it was that one. Scared the crap out of me the first time
[21:00] <Great-Geek> Seckel_ Uhh, I wouldn't recommend it. Not this late, I mean
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[21:01] <FlyingPersian> I'll go with gosh darn nex time ShorTie :P
[21:01] <Seckel_> Well its price is being reduced due to Oneplus two release and it still outspecs most phones...
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[21:02] <AlephTwo> ...must...root...router
[21:02] <ShorTie> Thankz .. :)~
[21:02] <Great-Geek> Seckel_ If it's going cheap, go ahead
[21:02] <FlyingPersian> Great-Geek, why isn't it good enough to format the SD card in my phone without TWRP or such things?
[21:02] <FlyingPersian> as long as it's FAT32 it should be fine right?
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[21:03] <Seckel_> Great-Geek: Well I think they are knocking £40 of it or something, otherwise would you suggest just waiting for one plus two?
[21:04] <Great-Geek> FlyingPersian, because you usually can't get to access an unmounted sdcard without android forwarding your commands
[21:04] <FlyingPersian> yes true, but why would that be bad?
[21:04] <AlephTwo> time to hack my crappy belkin router
[21:04] <Great-Geek> FlyingPersian, Also, access to /dev/whatever is restricted
[21:04] <FlyingPersian> hm
[21:05] <FlyingPersian> god damn
[21:05] <FlyingPersian> such as simple thing is keeping me from this :D
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[21:05] <Great-Geek> FlyingPersian, You need root or recovery.
[21:06] <Great-Geek> FlyingPersian, you can try, though. There are some tabs that give you access to unmounted sdcards
[21:06] <FlyingPersian> well I could try my mom's phone
[21:06] <AlephTwo> Anybody know where there are any Greek bankruptcy auction sites? I was thihnking about picking up some business-spec gear for cheap
[21:06] <FlyingPersian> it's a crappy phone, but it has an micro sd slot
[21:07] <Great-Geek> FlyingPersian, Samsung usually allows direct access
[21:07] <FlyingPersian> I think it is a samsung
[21:07] <Great-Geek> AlephTwo, dd-wrt !
[21:07] <AlephTwo> Yeah, but I need root on this crappy belkin first :/
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[21:08] <Great-Geek> AlephTwo, root on a router? Haven't heard that one before
[21:08] <AlephTwo> I was hoping to see stuff like 2U blade clusters for a few hundred euros, etc :)
[21:08] <AlephTwo> Great-Geek: Ofc. I can just upload a firmware blob, no?
[21:08] <AlephTwo> Assuming I can find one
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[21:09] <Great-Geek> AlephTwo, yes dd-wrt supported routers usually make use of the inbuilt updater utility to install first time
[21:10] <AlephTwo> So I need my router model#. brb
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[21:10] <FlyingPersian> okay got a samsung phone now Great-Geek
[21:11] <Great-Geek> FlyingPersian, See if you can unmount sdcard from Settings, then connect and see a new device on pc
[21:11] <FlyingPersian> okay
[21:12] <AlephTwo> arse. no support
[21:12] <AlephTwo> belkin wank f5d8635-4 :(
[21:14] <FlyingPersian> savely remove = unmount Great-Geek �
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[21:16] <FlyingPersian> hm it isn't showing up :o
[21:16] <Great-Geek> FlyingPersian, yes. That used to work on an old samsung galaxy Y
[21:16] <JK-47> Anyone find a good hdmi > vga adapter cable for not insanely expensive $?
[21:16] <FlyingPersian> not showing up
[21:17] <FlyingPersian> but it failed to install CDC Serial drives, maybe it's related?
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[21:23] <Great-Geek> JK-47, you realise that you need an active converter, yes ?
[21:23] <JK-47> some like belkins are powered/active
[21:23] <JK-47> just curious for 1st hand experience.
[21:24] <Great-Geek> JK-47, HDMI-> Pure Digital, VGA-> Pure Analog
[21:24] <JK-47> I have a crashcart adapter that basically puts VGA/usb hid into USB to my laptop. so it would be nice to be able to use it as a way to control and see my rpi display
[21:25] <Great-Geek> JK-47 There needs to be a convertor between hdmi and vga. Hdmi - DVI works with a dumb cable
[21:25] <JK-47> ill try something like this. http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters%C2%AE-Gold-Plated-Active-Adapter/dp/B007SM7O2U
[21:26] <Great-Geek> And DVI - VGA works with a different dumb cable
[21:26] <RockyTV> cna someone help me? sometimes my raspi is disconnected from the internet, but I can access it from the local network
[21:27] <Great-Geek> RockyTV, can you be sure it's not your network that's problematic ?
[21:27] <RockyTV> yes because I have a PC right next to the pi and it can connect to the internet. both are under the same router
[21:28] <AlephTwo> what could I do with 50 memory foam pillows for 200 Euro?
[21:28] <JK-47> put them in a big box or dumpster and jump off your house into it
[21:28] <AlephTwo> Ooh. or a ton of raw salt for 30 euro
[21:28] <JK-47> or a big pool
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[21:29] <Froolap> throw a halloween pillow fight party for the neighborhood
[21:29] <AlephTwo> Have you been hit with a memory foam pillow? They're heavy
[21:29] <Froolap> good
[21:29] <MageJames> yeah
[21:30] <AlephTwo> 30,000 condoms for 1000 euro...
[21:30] <AlephTwo> Sorry, browsing liquidation auction site
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[21:40] <Zunz> Anyone here has experience with FFT?
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[21:40] <AlephTwo> Fast fourier transforms?
[21:41] <Zunz> Aye
[21:41] <AlephTwo> SciPi or GnuRadio depending upon your usage case should help you.
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[21:41] <AlephTwo> SimpleCV/OpenCV on the PI has fft libraries
[21:41] <AlephTwo> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23257852/fft-in-simplecv
[21:42] <AlephTwo> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20791851/gnuradio-companion-fft-window for gnuradio
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[21:43] <Zunz> I am trying to do it with nodejs, but I fail to see how I can get some kind of spectrum analyzer
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[21:43] <AlephTwo> https://github.com/richardeoin/nodejs-fft-windowing
[21:43] <Zunz> I haven o idea where to begin
[21:44] <AlephTwo> https://www.npmjs.com/package/node-core-audio maybe?
[21:45] <AlephTwo> If you want to use imageMagick, then go look here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19644249/imagemagick-with-fftw-on-heroku
[21:46] <Zunz> that node core audio looks promising, but it has no fft stuff yet. It's on the todo list of it though
[21:48] <AlephTwo> https://plot.ly/nodejs/ may help you, but it appears to have streaming/fft support for matlab and not nodejs, although I could be missing something
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[21:49] <Zunz> Hmm, thanks for the help so far
[21:51] <AlephTwo> https://plot.ly/streaming/ may point you in the right direction. with this https://www.npmjs.com/package/fft
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[21:52] <AlephTwo> So if you can get a stream into an arrya, then the fft package looks promising
[21:52] <Zunz> I already have the buffer available in nodejs gladly
[21:53] <AlephTwo> go grab the fft lib and see what you can do then :)
[21:53] <AlephTwo> https://www.npmjs.com/package/fft
[21:53] <Zunz> Well, I am very new to this and I really am shit when it comes down to math
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[21:54] <Zunz> And I see things like 2-butterfly, no idea what that even means
[21:54] <AlephTwo> You have the data. Go play with the fft examples and try to pipe it out into a plotting chart
[21:54] <AlephTwo> I'm sure you can ignore that until you want to understand fft better
[21:54] <AlephTwo> To get up & running, it's best to just experiment with the library
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[21:55] <Zunz> True
[21:56] <AlephTwo> Damn. I should figure out what I did to bork my gnuradio install so I can play with my sdr again :(
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[22:05] <Tagtoo> Hello!
[22:06] <AlephTwo> Hello!
[22:06] <pmumble> hallo
[22:06] <Tagtoo> Humans!
[22:06] <Tagtoo> Yay
[22:06] <AlephTwo> onezerozerozeroonezerozeroonezerooneonezer
[22:06] <Tagtoo> Is there anyone here who works with servos and imu's? :)
[22:07] <Tagtoo> I finally got RTIMULib working on the Pi 2 with my camera gimbal
[22:08] <AlephTwo> You have a gimbal?
[22:08] <Tagtoo> well, not gimbal per se, it's a 3 axis servo rig
[22:08] <AlephTwo> I have a cheap p/t platform.
[22:08] <AlephTwo> I had it hooked up to an arduino, but I had created a simple serial library for controlling it
[22:08] <Tagtoo> i bought the cheap p/t platform then stuck it on an L bracket to another servo :)
[22:09] <Tagtoo> http://i.imgur.com/QQBG5Li.jpg
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[22:09] <AlephTwo> nice
[22:09] <AlephTwo> You need a laser on it to scare the cat
[22:09] <Tagtoo> here's a better shot
[22:09] <Tagtoo> http://i.imgur.com/afDmwAl.jpg
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[22:10] <Tagtoo> The sonar sweeper scares the cat plenty ;)
[22:10] <Tagtoo> I'm having a math issue now though :)
[22:10] <AlephTwo> I was wondering how to grab the websocket camera data with opencv/simplecv. You haven't examined that yet yet?
[22:10] <Tagtoo> not yet.. working in stages
[22:11] <Tagtoo> Sonar, Imu, Gimbal done except for one thign
[22:11] <AlephTwo> You are controlling all the servos from the PI?
[22:11] <Tagtoo> When i pan right or left, the imu values are 45 degrees off
[22:11] <Tagtoo> yes, using the adafruit i2c 16 pwm controller
[22:11] <AlephTwo> Then just throw an offset in
[22:12] <Tagtoo> right
[22:12] <Tagtoo> http://imgur.com/gallery/mzaqv
[22:13] <Tagtoo> The question is the math for camera x y from imu x y ,, how do i apply both iX and iY to cX and offset with cZ
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[22:15] <AlephTwo> I'm not sure I understand the question. You have 3 servos controlling the camera, x,y axis, yes. What does the 3rd servo do again?
[22:16] <Tagtoo> 3rd servo is roll
[22:16] <Tagtoo> so when the car tilts left , camera rolls right
[22:16] <AlephTwo> ah.
[22:16] <AlephTwo> You have gyro installed?
[22:16] <Tagtoo> 10dof imu, yes
[22:17] <Tagtoo> working great.
[22:17] <Tagtoo> it's transforming the values when the camera is not pointing straight forward
[22:17] <AlephTwo> You're talking about matrix transformations
[22:17] <AlephTwo> You could cheat...
[22:17] <Tagtoo> -not
[22:18] <AlephTwo> Simplecv, look for a horizon line when you are horizontal. Try to keep the roll so that stays horizontal :)
[22:18] <Tagtoo> good idea :)
[22:18] <AlephTwo> feedback from simplecv > roll-servo
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[22:19] <Tagtoo> this wont see a horizon much, its for flower hunting and tight spaces
[22:19] <AlephTwo> If you want to get fancy, you could play with neural networks to get something which makes it's own values :)
[22:19] <Tagtoo> theres got to be a trig transform i just need to find it i guess
[22:19] <AlephTwo> matrix transformations. good luck
[22:20] <Tagtoo> I will be using opencv at some point.. my wife wants this car to find flowers in the nature preseve in our back yard
[22:20] <AlephTwo> You will have to twiddle the x,y servos whilst playing with roll if you are wanting to keep the picture straight
[22:20] <AlephTwo> You may want to look into using software to rotate the image & just crop a border
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[22:22] <AlephTwo> With flowers, you'll be training your own Haar Cascades. (Y)Haaaar!
[22:22] <Tagtoo> im keeping the picture straight now as long as the camera is facing forward. So I'm good there, it's when i manually pan left right that the imu values need to be transformed, I'm looking at a Vector Transform video now.
[22:22] <AlephTwo> You could just plot the values as you manually control the camera & figure out what's happening
[22:22] <AlephTwo> lower one corner, turn camera & then twiddle until straight. Check servo readings. Rinse & repeat
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[22:23] <AlephTwo> Plot and figure out the functions
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[22:23] <Tagtoo> right, or i could find the real math functions on the intertoob
[22:23] <AlephTwo> oh god no!!!
[22:23] <AlephTwo> :P
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[22:40] <AlephTwo> Tagtoo: did you locate them?
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[23:19] <seriema> I run `lsusb` but only see three ports, but I have four. I tried rebooting but no change
[23:20] <seriema> is it possible to accidentally burn/kill a usb port on the raspberry? =/
[23:21] <pmumble> so it wasnt the wifi adapter, it's the port eh? ouch
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[23:21] * pmumble doesn't know.
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[23:22] <AlephTwo> depends upon what current you draw from it. Quite possibly.
[23:22] <AlephTwo> Have you tried juggling a thumb drive amongst all the ports to see if it fails to mount on any of them?
[23:22] <seriema> AlephTwo: it's a wifi dongle I've tried to get working. so I've added it and removed it a few times
[23:22] <AlephTwo> Are you sure it works with pi?
[23:23] <seriema> AlephTwo: well I ran `lsusb` with nothing connected, and it only showed three ports. when I ran earlier today it showed four.
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[23:23] <AlephTwo> Try plugging a thumb drive into each port & try to mount it each time.
[23:23] <seriema> according to this https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=62371 and this https://wikidevi.com/wiki/TP-LINK_TL-WN725N_v2 it should work
[23:24] <seriema> but if nothings connected, should `lsusb` just show 3 ports?
[23:24] <AlephTwo> Not sure tbh
[23:25] <seriema> hmm
[23:25] <seriema> ok gonna try a usb memory stick
[23:26] <pmumble> i just tried it. i get 3 devices on lsusb with nothing plugged in
[23:27] <pmumble> a "linux root hub" and 2 "standard microsystems corp"
[23:27] <pmumble> rpi2
[23:27] <pmumble> raspbian
[23:27] <Kunsi> same here for rpi1 B+
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[23:32] <seriema> right, cool thanks
[23:32] <seriema> I ran `dmesg` with my wifi dongle connected and this seems interesting: "Direct firmware load for rtlwifi/rtl8188eufw.bin failed with error -2"
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[23:34] <ahop> What happens between power ON and kernel loading (there seems to be 4 or 5 seconds there) ?
[23:34] <ShorTie> code is executed
[23:34] <ahop> As I don't have a screen (connecting with SSH), I can't see what happen durint this time
[23:35] <ahop> which code?
[23:35] <AlephTwo> ahop: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=6685
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[23:38] <ahop> AlephTwo: interesting topic indeed! I didn't know these things! Is there some "waiting time" before kernel arriving ?
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[23:38] <ahop> like "logo" displayed and 1 or 2 seconds waiting for keypress or similar things? that I could remove
[23:40] <AlephTwo> From what I'm reading, not really. No real bios. You could check the mentioned files to see if there's anything there.
[23:41] <AlephTwo> I think it's all initialisation code for the hardware
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[23:42] <ahop> AlephTwo, I have measured 5 seconds between "I plug the power cord" and "kernel time 0.00s" (as displayed here: http://www.samplerbox.org/files/systemd-analyze-plot.jpg)
[23:42] <ahop> Is there a way to optimize that in config.txt or cmdline.txt ?
[23:43] <AlephTwo> Hardware initialisation, ram, bringing up sd driver
[23:43] <AlephTwo> I don't think so. You can check your config.txt/cmdline.txt to see if there's anything which looks like a delay
[23:43] <AlephTwo> I'd backup the files first though :)
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[23:43] <ahop> AlephTwo: I see "rootwait"
[23:44] <AlephTwo> Could be waiting for your sd card to mount /
[23:44] <AlephTwo> You could try shortening the timeout (if there is one) in the hope your card is fast enough :)
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[23:49] <ahop> I haven't found any real doc showing what" rootwait" does in cmdline.txt
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[23:51] <AlephTwo> yeah. It appears to be some black magic
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[23:53] <AlephTwo> It appears to be a generic command to instruct the system to pause booting until the / is mounted
[23:54] <ahop> could it be something else?
[23:54] <ahop> what could happen if / is not mounted ?
[23:54] <AlephTwo> kernel would hang
[23:54] <ahop> oh yes probably
[23:54] <ahop> so I should keep it anyway?
[23:54] <AlephTwo> This may help improve boot times: http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/14763/how-to-improve-boot-time-for-raspberry-pi
[23:54] <AlephTwo> I would keep rootwait
[23:55] <ahop> AlephTwo: already studied this question. I even posted this answer ;) http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/a/32077
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[23:55] <AlephTwo> :)
[23:56] <AlephTwo> If you are down to 3 seconds from / mount then I'd say you're happy
[23:56] <ahop> :)
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[23:57] <ahop> Yes, but I wanted to investigate what's in the middle (between POWER plugged and kernel starting @0.00s)
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[23:57] <ahop> I need to reboot, I won't see your answer on IRC in the middle (or is the channel logged somewhere)
[23:57] <AlephTwo> I'll wait 10 seconds :P
[23:58] <ahop> haha, my laptop is much slower than my optimized Pi now ;)
[23:58] <ahop> haha
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[23:58] <AlephTwo> What you could do is look into debugging over the i2c pins
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