#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2015-05-31

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[0:01] <AlephTwo> ahop: are you rebooted yet?
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[0:01] <seriema> I downloaded the firmware for my usb wifi with wget, but now what? I did this: http://forum.xbian.org/printthread.php?tid=2524
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[0:03] <AlephTwo> wb. Try looking here: http://kariddi.blogspot.gr/2012/08/raspberry-pi-bare-metal-part-1-boot.html
[0:03] <AlephTwo> and his follow up post: http://kariddi.blogspot.gr/2012/08/raspberry-pi-bare-metal-part-2.html
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[0:05] <ahop> Waw! bare metal!
[0:05] <AlephTwo> How much do you want to know?
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[0:12] <linuxthefish> is the rpi 1 b+ power distribution or something better than before? with 1.2ghz 'arm' clock and full load "vcgencmd measure_temp" only says 42'C
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[0:14] <ahop> AlephTwo: going bare metal would be a bit too much for me ;)
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[0:17] <mebus> Hi! What's wrong here: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/anonymous/cac3a02dc7f21a9b6b80/raw/f2a0c5ef2891823e7836a4d9aba992a4d4665a56/gistfile1.txt ?
[0:17] <seriema> woop! I got the wifi dongle mounted (or whatever it's called)! but if I disconnect the ethernet cable then it doesn't use the wifi =/
[0:17] <seriema> what am I missing?
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[0:18] <seriema> here's my output of iwconfig and ifconfig: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ccb69eccd592c08db4e9
[0:18] <seriema> and my /etc/network/interfaces: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/42e5ddc1ebebfbce71d7
[0:19] <mebus> seriema: there is no ip config at all?
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[0:19] <seriema> mebus: what?
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[0:20] <mebus> seriema: no dhcp configured and no static ip addresses configured
[0:20] <seriema> mebus: haven't seen that in any of the tutorials. I'm using a /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf to configure my wifi ssid and password
[0:21] <mebus> seriema: what does /etc/wpa... look like?
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[0:22] <seriema> mebus: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/075f06edc45597e62c3a
[0:23] <mebus> yes, but your pi needs to get an IP address from somewhere
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[0:23] <mebus> either from dhcp or manually.
[0:23] <mebus> You did not configure anything for this.
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[0:24] <seriema> mebus: sorry I'm lost, but when connecting to a wifi with a phone or laptop it's always enough with the network name and password. so what am I missing exactly? =/
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[0:24] <mebus> seriema: DHCP
[0:25] <mebus> seriema: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Using_DHCP_to_automatically_configure_the_interface
[0:27] <mebus> seriema: https://gist.github.com/Mebus/1abb163df30111d3c12a
[0:27] <seriema> mebus: hm do I put that on `iface eth0 inet manual` or `iface wlan0 inet manual`
[0:27] <seriema> ah, both
[0:28] <mebus> and not manual but dhcp
[0:29] <seriema> yeah, done thx
[0:29] <seriema> do I need to reboot now or?
[0:30] <mebus> best option.
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[0:31] <mebus> "Failed to fetch http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/dists/wheezy/main/binary-armhf/Packages Hash Sum mismatch" !?
[0:31] <mebus> what is this?
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[0:31] <pksato> mebus: do a list update
[0:31] <pksato> apt-get update
[0:33] <mebus> apt-get update says "Problem renaming the file /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin.r8pxhE to /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin - rename (17: File exists)"
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[0:35] <seriema> mebus: rebooted, but iwconfig and ifconfig look the same as before. is there anything I can look for to see that it worked? disconnecting the ethernet cable disconnects me because I'm SSH'ing to it
[0:36] <mebus> /var/log/messages or something
[0:37] <pksato> http://www.ibm-1401.info/IBM1401_ArchivePics/1401_Production_Pics/IBM1401_Manufacturing_Landscape_1960.jpg
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[0:38] <AlephTwo> seriema: what distro are you using? wpa_supplicant for raspbian is the preferred method for wifi connection, I think.
[0:38] * AlephTwo is slightly distracted with youtube fluffy kitten videos
[0:39] <mebus> pksato: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/anonymous/cac3a02dc7f21a9b6b80/raw/f2a0c5ef2891823e7836a4d9aba992a4d4665a56/gistfile1.txt
[0:39] <seriema> AlephTwo: raspbian. I'm sing the wpa_supplicant file
[0:40] <AlephTwo> seriema: ctrl_interface=DIR=/var/run/wpa_supplicant GROUP=workgroup
[0:40] <AlephTwo> update_config=1
[0:40] <AlephTwo> /etc/wpa.conf gives your ssid detaills
[0:41] <seriema> AlephTwo: where do I put what you just wrote?
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[0:41] <AlephTwo> that was in my wpa_supplicant.conf
[0:41] <seriema> oh
[0:41] <AlephTwo> My /etc/wpa.conf file has ssid stuff:
[0:42] <seriema> AlephTwo: this is my supplicant file: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/075f06edc45597e62c3a
[0:42] <AlephTwo> You have an unsecured network?
[0:42] <seriema> `cat /etc/wpa.conf` says no file found
[0:43] <pksato> mebus: have some problens with apt files, check files in /var/cache/apt/
[0:43] <seriema> unsecured? how? regular wifi password =/
[0:43] <AlephTwo> Sorry, misread
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[0:43] <AlephTwo> Try changing proto to RSN. That's in mine & it "just works(tm)"
[0:43] <AlephTwo> I also don't have auto_alg setting
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[0:44] <AlephTwo> I also have pairwise=CCMP TKIP
[0:46] <seriema> if I change something there, do I need to reboot?
[0:47] <seriema> if I run ifconfig for iwconfig I don't see an IP anywhere
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[0:48] <AlephTwo> You could just do a reboot & start afresh
[0:48] <seriema> reboot is what I usually do, but what do you mean by start afresh?
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[0:49] <AlephTwo> If you have modules loaded from previous attempts to start wifi, they could confuse stuff which wants to start
[0:49] <seriema> hm, not sure how to load modules. but sure, I'm rebooting
[0:50] <seriema> btw how can I change resolution, in the terminal? if I reboot without the TV connected then the text is a lot bigger, which is nicer
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[0:50] <AlephTwo> no x?
[0:50] <pksato> reboot is not necessary, but if not know that doing, is best way. :)
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[0:50] <AlephTwo> seriema: You mean the standard x terminal?
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[0:52] <seriema> probably? I didn't install anything myself
[0:53] <AlephTwo> I mean before you get a graphical system or after you have booted into a standard x system
[0:53] <seriema> when I rebooted, I got a bunch of messages. it didn't like wlan1
[0:53] <AlephTwo> You should go for wlan0
[0:53] <seriema> I just boot my raspbian =/
[0:53] <seriema> just delete the config for wlan1 then? I don't know what makes it pick one of the other
[0:54] <AlephTwo> wlan1 config? Just rename it to wlan0. Replace every reference to wlan1 with wlan0 (where wlan0 details aren't available. In that case, just drop the relevant data into there)
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[0:55] <seriema> AlephTwo: well this is my /etc/network/interfaces https://gist.github.com/anonymous/42e5ddc1ebebfbce71d7
[0:56] <pksato> seriema: you have two wifi adapter?
[0:56] <seriema> AlephTwo: well that's the old one heh it's using "dhcp" instead of "manual" on both
[0:56] <seriema> pksato: no =/
[0:56] <AlephTwo> Yeah you should be ok. wlan0 should have come up first
[0:56] <pksato> why have two conf?
[0:56] <AlephTwo> do ifconfig
[0:56] <seriema> not sure why I have too. think I got it from a tutorial
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[0:57] <pksato> Conf wifi is simple.
[0:57] <AlephTwo> The tutorial was buy a guy with two dongles :)
[0:57] <seriema> AlephTwo: what should I look for?
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[0:57] <seriema> heh ok
[0:57] <pksato> forget all, and start again.
[0:57] <AlephTwo> Go remove that auto wlan1 reference
[0:57] <AlephTwo> and all the stuff under it
[0:57] <pksato> Fisrt, adapter is working? iwconfig wlan0
[0:58] <seriema> I removed all wlan1 things
[0:58] <AlephTwo> then you should be golden
[0:58] <pksato> iwlist wlan0 scan
[0:58] <AlephTwo> ^^ this
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[0:58] <AlephTwo> If it returns anything then your usb dongle's ok
[0:58] <pksato> the last show networks on neighborhood.
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[0:59] <pksato> if get error or no list, try wlan1
[0:59] <seriema> iwconfig wlan0, what should I look for there?
[0:59] <seriema> got a huge list from the scan thing
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[0:59] <AlephTwo> then wlan0 is fine
[0:59] <AlephTwo> do ifconfig
[0:59] <AlephTwo> see if wlan0 is up
[0:59] <pksato> but, if you have one adapter anda never plugged other, is wan0
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[0:59] <seriema> AlephTwo: I don't see an IP, just a bunch of other things =/
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[1:00] <pksato> if network use wpa-psk, conf is very simple.
[1:00] <AlephTwo> then it's routing time
[1:00] <seriema> I cleared out my config file to just have ssid and pk
[1:01] <AlephTwo> in /etc/network/interfaces I have commented out auto wlan0 and I have iface wlan0 inet dhcp
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[1:01] <pksato> http://paste.debian.net/189529/
[1:02] <pksato> just need these lines for wifi interface
[1:02] <pksato> to connect, ifup wlan0
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[1:02] <seriema> pksato: ok, but don't I need the ethernet stuff?
[1:02] <pksato> need, its a fragment of file.
[1:02] <seriema> pksato: and what about the supplicant.conf?
[1:02] <AlephTwo> Leave the ethernet stuff alone
[1:03] <seriema> phew ok
[1:03] <pksato> not need supplicant.conf
[1:03] <pksato> for simple setup no need supplicant.conf
[1:03] <seriema> no "allow-hotplug"?
[1:04] <pksato> allow-hotplug wlan0
[1:04] <pksato> need allow-hotplug wlan0
[1:04] <seriema> ok rebooting
[1:05] <pksato> no need reboot
[1:05] <seriema> too late :D
[1:05] <pksato> ifup wlan0
[1:05] <seriema> it seems stuck on doing some echo things to
[1:05] <pksato> or ifdown wlan0; ifup wlan0
[1:05] <pksato> to "reload" interfaces
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[1:07] <seriema> rebooting gave me two FAIL's. "Not running dhcpcd because /etc/network/interfaces ... failed!" and "defines some interfaces that will use a DHCP client ... failed!"
[1:07] <pksato> what now have on /etc/network/interfaces ?
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[1:09] <seriema> http://paste.debian.net/189543/
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[1:11] <pksato> seriema: you do other modifications or installed packages?
[1:11] <seriema> not that I'm aware of =/
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[1:15] <pksato> I now know that is wrong
[1:15] <seriema> oh?
[1:16] <pksato> I not know that is wrong
[1:16] <seriema> oh =( lol
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[1:16] <tf2manu994> hey
[1:18] <tf2manu994> anyone here active
[1:18] <AlephTwo> Just off to bed. Sorry
[1:18] <tf2manu994> Goodnight!
[1:18] <tf2manu994> :)
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[1:28] <tf2manu994> sidenote: anyone here know if a 5v0.2a fan would work off the gpio pins on a raspberry pi without damaging them?
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[1:33] <seriema> pksato: does this say anything to you? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/cb0b09f6c9b3a88b539a
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[1:35] <pksato> seriema: or wlan0 not working, or not associeted to access point. check on access point (router)
[1:35] <seriema> pksato: but what do the first three lines mean? "ioctl[SIOCSIWAP]: Operation not permitted" etc
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[1:36] <pksato> not working interface?
[1:36] <pksato> again.
[1:36] <pksato> iwconfig wlan0
[1:37] <pksato> show interface info, of get a error?
[1:37] <pksato> iwlist wlan0 scan
[1:37] <pksato> show networks?
[1:37] <pksato> or have a error?
[1:38] <seriema> iwconfig https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7fec6300cfa31c309050
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[1:39] <seriema> iwlist wlan0 scan https://gist.github.com/anonymous/51427cbd15a695e2b96c
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[1:41] <pksato> iwconfig wlan0 | head -2
[1:41] <pksato> why serial console not working here?
[1:42] <seriema> uhoh... I wrote my SSID with lowercase, when it had a capital case =/
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[1:42] <seriema> now it seems to work, I think
[1:44] <seriema> YES!! it worked!
[1:44] <seriema> so much 'doh' =)
[1:44] <seriema> thx pksato and AlephTwo !! goodnight
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[1:59] <Encapsulation> http://www.solarimpulse.com/widget-energy so cool
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[2:02] <pksato> Now, I have problens with wifi. :P
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[2:04] <[Saint]> He's got 99 problems, but WiFi ain't 1.
[2:04] <[Saint]> Oh, wait...
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[2:05] <MACscr> ha. thats a pretty cool setup
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[2:35] <pksato> My desktop wireless mouse not working proper, after start wifi on rpi.
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[2:45] <CanDoo> proper???
[2:46] <CanDoo> HAMMER TIME!!!
[2:47] <ozzzy> can't touch this
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[2:48] <CanDoo> heh
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[3:30] <CanDoo> this week will hopefully involve soldering
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[3:35] <Froolap> pksato: you should have checked the documentation to make sure that your wireless mouse and wifi weren't both trying to use the same frequency. o-0
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[3:38] <[Saint]> ...they shouldn't be.
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[3:46] <[Saint]> Our special investigative services, folks:
[3:46] <[Saint]> "One reply stated: "He was never going to get far from the cops on foot, was he?" Another SIS staffer said Dotcom was like the Daleks, the wheeled villains in Dr Who, because "he could be defeated by a small set of stairs"."
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[3:54] <tf2manu994> hi
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[4:16] <maxbots|mtw> [Saint]: Lol, seems like he got the last laugh though
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[7:08] <kookie> I got the first laugh... he heh...
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[7:33] <n^izzo> hey all, I'm looking for a cut down distro for a web server on my RPi v1 model B
[7:34] <n^izzo> my first thought was Arch but my housemate needs to use it as well and Arch isn't the most user friendly distro
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[7:35] <ShorTie> i'd recommend https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=104981&p=745746
[7:35] <kookie> look in www.raspberrypi.org
[7:35] <[Saint]> what's not user friendly about Arch?
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[7:35] <[Saint]> If its cli only, its just the same as any other distro, with a different set of package management tools.
[7:36] <[Saint]> that doesn't make it less user friendly, just, different.
[7:36] <[Saint]> in fact I'd argue that due to their extensive wiki, it is /more/ user friendly.
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[7:37] <n^izzo> [Saint]: They dont have a disk image and you need linux to set it up
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[7:37] <n^izzo> I only have OS X and cbf dual booting again
[7:37] <[Saint]> Neither of those things are relevant to the stated case of a secondary user.
[7:37] <[Saint]> ANd no, you don't need linux.
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[7:38] <tf2manu994> heyyyy
[7:38] <[Saint]> you need a unix-like system (hey, like OSX) and bsdtar.
[7:39] <ShorTie> official like minimal image then https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=111144
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[7:39] <ShorTie> it's 3/5 of the official raspbian, it has no X stuff
[7:40] <[Saint]> I didn't mean to be so blunt, but your housemate likely doesn't give a crap about it not having a system image as he won't (I assume) be the one maintaining it.
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[7:43] <tf2manu994> What are you guys talking about
[7:43] <n^izzo> [Saint]: I've used Arch before and I found it good till you hit some edge case that the wiki doesn't explain and the one other person you can find that had the same issues posts in the forums and ether never fixes it or doesn't post the fix
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[7:43] <[Saint]> The same would be true of debian though.
[7:43] <[Saint]> There's very little about Arch that is Arch specific.
[7:43] <n^izzo> debian and its ilk are more tested and generally more stable
[7:43] <ShorTie> arch might be to cutting edge for some too...
[7:44] <tf2manu994> Any problem I've had with arch is about the program, not arch
[7:44] <tf2manu994> arch has like nothing on it
[7:44] <n^izzo> ok so for a dev machine Arch isn't the best
[7:44] <[Saint]> You could run bleeding edge debian and face the same issues.
[7:44] <[Saint]> Its not an Arch thing, as tf2manu994 is apparently also trying to say.
[7:45] <n^izzo> I don’t want to fix system issues I want to write code and deploy and my hosemate has half a clue with debian but none when it comes to Arch
[7:45] <tf2manu994> What langs?
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[7:45] <n^izzo> Node
[7:45] <n^izzo> so js
[7:45] <[Saint]> What issues do you think will magically arise from Arch?
[7:46] <tf2manu994> arch manages basically nothing
[7:46] <n^izzo> Node + C++ (libtorrent)
[7:46] <[Saint]> People have this idea that Arch is for the advanced and in inherently flawed.
[7:46] <[Saint]> Neither of those things are true.
[7:46] <[Saint]> *and is
[7:46] <tf2manu994> the package manager is probably the only thing that could break in arch
[7:46] <tf2manu994> and it doesnt
[7:47] <n^izzo> I used Arch for 2 years and then I got a mac for work
[7:47] <n^izzo> I liked it but it can be fiddly at times and I don’t want to be the only one that can figure it out
[7:48] <[Saint]> there so little things that are truly Arch specific I have no idea what you're talking about.
[7:48] <[Saint]> The same is true of debian or any other distro.
[7:48] <tf2manu994> hell, if you built your own distro, there would be the same problems
[7:49] <[Saint]> its a minimal base, and a rolling distro, two things quite becoming of a webserver.
[7:49] <[Saint]> unless you like waiting an age for security fixes to roll out.
[7:51] <ShorTie> so your saying debian is slower to roll security fixes out then arch ??
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[7:51] <tf2manu994> no
[7:51] <tf2manu994> arch barely ever needs an update
[7:51] <tf2manu994> software on top does
[7:52] <[Saint]> ShorTie: it certainly can be.
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[8:10] <digitaldias> Hey guys - I'm running some animations on an Adafruit Led strip over SPI0, and wonder if those LED's are individually adressable? Right now, I'm writing a full array to produce the animations, which feels wrong :)
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[8:11] <digitaldias> btw, I'm on Windows 10 )
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[8:13] <[Saint]> Poor bugger.
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[8:15] <digitaldias> So, nobody can confirm/deny the ADA 60 strip needs to write a full buffer for animating? Can't address individual LED's?
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[8:17] <digitaldias> I may be a bugger, Saint, but poor.. nope :)
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[8:21] <digitaldias> I've got a n00b question while we're at this: There is something called "Holey Board" from GHI Electronics (Gadgeteer) that is basically a "permanent" breadboard, full of holes so you can mount stuff on it. Makes sense to have something that you can cut to size and mount your electronics on without etching out a green board. Is there a common name to that sort of stuff, and where do you guys buy it?
[8:21] <digitaldias> Or is the concept unknown?
[8:22] <[Saint]> protoboard.
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[8:23] <ShorTie> perfboard
[8:23] <ShorTie> radio shack sells it
[8:24] <digitaldias> awesome - found some on seeedstudio :)
[8:24] <digitaldias> http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/ProtoBoard-9cm-15cm-20mm-p-726.html
[8:24] <Triffid_Hunter> digitaldias: yeah protoboard or perfboard or prototype board are common names for that stuff
[8:24] <Triffid_Hunter> digitaldias: also note that 1608(metric)/0603(imperial) SMD parts fit perfectly between 0.1" pins and are thus perfect for use with it
[8:25] <Triffid_Hunter> digitaldias: if you want an intro to surface mount that is ;)
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[8:26] <digitaldias> nice - yeah, I just need something to put together my RPI projects ona more permanent fashion. Making a cloud-connected doorbell with one, and need the bits to stick :)
[8:29] <digitaldias> These look nice too: http://www.adafruit.com/products/589
[8:29] <Triffid_Hunter> digitaldias: another one to keep an eye out for is stripboard, it has long lines and you drill out the holes to break them into segments
[8:30] <digitaldias> nice, thanks Triffid - I think that's what I REALLY want - something I Can cut to measure
[8:31] <Triffid_Hunter> digitaldias: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/oxSHmuY2Y84gtsdi2Tp5dtMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0 <-- stripboard
[8:32] <Triffid_Hunter> digitaldias: http://i.imgur.com/DGhgZFx.jpg <-- protoboard
[8:32] <digitaldias> not alot of difference between those two
[8:35] <digitaldias> I'm currently shopping alot from either adafruit.com or seeedstudio.com - would you guys recommend better online shops? (for pricing) As you can tell, I'm fairly new to this, coming from the developer side where I've worked as a dev for the last 30 years :)
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[8:46] <temmi_hoo> farnell, mouser, digikey
[8:47] <ShorTie> the 3.3v pin on the gpio header, how much current can you get from it ??
[8:47] <temmi_hoo> a lot of stuff is better from the bigger players but then there are things like some HATs that are not sold by the bigs
[8:48] <temmi_hoo> ShorTie: very little, if you need to think about it, put an intermediate bipolar or mosfet transistor
[8:48] <ShorTie> not talking input/output pin, the 3.3v pin it's self
[8:49] <temmi_hoo> http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/transistor/tran28.gif?81223b <-- s/TTL/CMOS/ but otherwise the same
[8:49] <temmi_hoo> the and port is supposed to represent a generic ic pin
[8:50] <temmi_hoo> a pretty old image but it was the first one that didn't use a p type mosfet as high side load switch driven by a n type mosfet on the low side
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[8:54] <digitaldias> So I'm animating this baby: http://www.adafruit.com/products/1461 but the way I'm doing it now feels wrong: I'm basically updating a byte[] and transmitting the whole thing to the strip every 2ms - is there a way to address individual LED's on such a strip?
[8:55] <digitaldias> It uses SPI btw.
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[9:04] <frib> Hi. I would like to visualize raspberry pi desktop via HDMI without directly connecting a keyboard. Is there a way? Thanks!
[9:05] <frib> (HDMI to TV)
[9:06] <temmi_hoo> you can add a bluetooth dongle and then the usual suspect bluetooth keybored and mice
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[9:10] <[Saint]> yeah, bt wireless mouse and keyboard combos (full size) are like $20
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[9:44] <dynorsau> Is there a way to login via ssh and display hdmi to tv remotely?
[9:46] <ShorTie> hdmi has to be connected and on before pi startup for it to work
[9:46] <ShorTie> well, with no playing in config.txt that is
[9:47] <dynorsau> Ok i did that but I'm left at login prompt
[9:47] <dynorsau> No local keyboard
[9:47] <ShorTie> oh, so no gui ??
[9:47] <dynorsau> No :/ what can i do?
[9:47] <temmi_hoo> raspi-config to the rescue
[9:48] <dynorsau> What should i select in raspiconfig?
[9:49] <ShorTie> that isn't gonna help i don't think
[9:49] <ShorTie> you need something like screen
[9:49] <dynorsau> Well i already looked in it but didn't see a solution
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[10:16] <password2> Hi
[10:16] <[Saint]> Nah.
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[10:21] <password2> wheres a good place to post on how to get a specific wifi dongle working for the pi?
[10:22] <Mr_Sheesh> I'd think the RPi forums?
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[10:24] <ShorTie> what seems to be the problem ??
[10:24] <ShorTie> are the drivers loaded ??
[10:24] <ShorTie> any firmware needed ??
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[10:26] <password2> ShorTie, i managed to compile drivers for a dongle
[10:26] <[Saint]> password2: you almost certainly don't need to do so.
[10:26] <password2> and it works on my desktop
[10:26] <password2> [Saint], its for poorly supported drivers
[10:27] <[Saint]> password2: I would be willing to bet the question has been asked ans answered multiple times already for the given chipset
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[10:27] <password2> chipset is : ID 148f:7601 Ralink Technology, Corp.
[10:27] <[Saint]> so, yes, then.
[10:27] <ShorTie> there is like tricks to compiling drivers for the pi, not as easy as a desktop
[10:27] <password2> well , then i missed the answer the when i did research
[10:28] <password2> well , I'll try it later for pi and see where it goes
[10:29] <[Saint]> for most of the Ralink chipsets you need "wireless-power off" in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:30] <password2> mine didn't work with the ralink-firmware
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[10:31] <[Saint]> see https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=49864
[10:31] <password2> but I didn't know bout the need for "wireless-power off"
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[10:32] <frib> i'm trying to use raspi-config to boot to desktop w/automatic login of pi user but i'm left at a login prompt (graphical)
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[10:32] <ShorTie> i'd plug it in and see what dmesg says about it before doing to much
[10:32] <frib> is this because i deleted user pi and replaced? how can I login automatically? Thanks
[10:33] <digitaldias> Which OS?
[10:33] <ShorTie> Yes frib
[10:33] <frib> ShorTie, how can I resolve? do i need to set password back to "raspberry" ??
[10:33] <ShorTie> nothing the matter with user pi, i'd keep it
[10:33] <frib> ShorTie, why the login prompt then?
[10:34] <ShorTie> because it's trying to login as pi and there isn't 1
[10:34] <password2> dang
[10:34] <frib> ShorTie, i replaced it
[10:34] <ShorTie> look for lightdm.conf, and change the autologin name my be
[10:35] <frib> i.e. sudo useradd pi
[10:35] <digitaldias> For windows 10, u can start in headed (UI) mode or headless: http://ms-iot.github.io/content/en-US/win10/HeadlessMode.htm
[10:36] <[Saint]> Most of us don't hate ourselves that much.
[10:36] <password2> i missed that post before
[10:36] <digitaldias> Saint, I get it, you have a problem with windows 10. Aknowledged. Now move along
[10:36] <[Saint]> password2: not to worry - my Google-fu is strong.
[10:36] <ShorTie> nano -w /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and change pi to your user
[10:36] <password2> i got my drivers from TOTO link though
[10:37] <ShorTie> on autologin=
[10:37] <[Saint]> ShorTie: he's said repeatedly now that his user _is_ pi
[10:37] <ShorTie> sorry!!!
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[10:37] <password2> once that dongle works on my pi I'm one step closer to putting my pi in my car
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[10:40] <[Saint]> what's going to be powering it?
[10:40] <[Saint]> you're going to have to get creative on power-off if you like your data intact.
[10:41] <password2> [Saint], I'm probably gonna use a pic for power management
[10:41] <[Saint]> right, but you'll need a small amount of battery backup if you dislike filesystem corruption.
[10:41] <[Saint]> or to make sure the the addressable storage is read only, which is pretty boring for the use case.
[10:42] <frib> ShorTie, the raspi-config option for desktop boot says cannot do because user pi is deleted (even though I changed lightdm.conf auto login user)
[10:42] <frib> i could put pi user back .. but the main problem remains (graphical boot stops at login prompt)
[10:43] <frib> ok i foudn this: /usr/bin/raspi-config
[10:44] <[Saint]> The automotive raspberrypi subject brings up all sorts of interesting possible snafus.
[10:44] <[Saint]> A noisy accessory rail, for instance, would also be pretty bloody bad for data consistence.
[10:44] <[Saint]> Powering it in a safe and reliable fashion is a lot harder than the initial outlook first suggests.
[10:45] <[Saint]> Unless you want to have to micromanage it manually.
[10:45] <[Saint]> But I suspect you'd want it to "Just Work" off the accessory 5V rail like any other automotive electronics.
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[10:46] <password2> battery backup for when the car starts?
[10:47] <password2> or to shut down once the car is of?
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[10:47] <password2> i'm not even sure theres a 5V accessory rail
[10:47] <[Saint]> the latter.
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[10:48] <password2> gonna route battery through to pic
[10:48] <[Saint]> Ah, yeah, right. SOrry, I forgot that a 5V rail isn't universal at all in the automotive world.
[10:49] <password2> and the pic will sense if the car is on or not
[10:49] <password2> and controll power of pi accordingly
[10:49] <[Saint]> Basically, you need to ensure there's enough power to facilitate a safe shutdown.
[10:49] <[Saint]> cramming in a few fat caps might let you get away with this.
[10:50] <password2> i have a 350F 3.6V one :p
[10:50] <[Saint]> you can only get away with abruptly powering down the pi for so long before the filesystem eventually objects.
[10:51] <password2> that i discovered 5s after installing rasbian the first time
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[10:52] <temmi_hoo> is there 5V in some cars as in from the car manufacturer?
[10:52] <password2> i doubt it
[10:53] <temmi_hoo> i'd go for getting a readymade psu that's made for the purpose of powering 5V cmos digital sensitive loads from a car 12V battery
[10:53] <temmi_hoo> they're designed for spike tolerance and all that
[10:53] <[Saint]> There's a 5V rail on my 4WD.
[10:53] <password2> temmi_hoo, making a psu is not really duffucult
[10:53] <temmi_hoo> password2: making it tolerant to car 12V is moderately so
[10:54] <password2> noise is fun to play with
[10:54] <temmi_hoo> not unachievable but then again you can get readymade modules for 10-20eur
[10:54] <temmi_hoo> 3eur from dx but then again they're 3eur from dx
[10:54] <password2> i like biulding it more
[10:54] <temmi_hoo> :)
[10:54] <temmi_hoo> [Saint]: what 4wd is that?
[10:54] <temmi_hoo> sounds pretty modern
[10:55] <[Saint]> Pajero.
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[10:56] <[Saint]> AFAIUI a lot of Nissans have a 5V accessory/common rail.
[10:57] <[Saint]> perhaps not.
[10:57] <password2> mmm , i have not even bothered to check the spectrum of noise i would encounter in a car
[10:57] <[Saint]> "a lot"
[10:57] <temmi_hoo> :D
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[10:58] <password2> sure
[10:58] <temmi_hoo> oh pajeros are nice
[10:58] <password2> I've measured the waveform a sparkplug sees before
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[10:58] <password2> surpringly not one spike / firing
[10:58] <temmi_hoo> the super select is pretty good and they can be made forestworthy
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[11:01] <password2> i know you can calculate the engine speed from the impulse spikes on a car by using a couple of dc blocking caps
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[11:02] <[Saint]> does your vehicle support ODB2?
[11:03] <[Saint]> That's always bloody fun to play with with automotive computing endeavors.
[11:03] <password2> i dunno
[11:03] <[Saint]> and it is open and decrentralized enough now to be widely free.
[11:03] <password2> i have ODB@ port
[11:03] <frib> raspberry doesn't automatically mount my nfs drive at boot (console message says cannot find UUID number)
[11:03] <frib> what's up with that?
[11:03] <password2> but my dongle wont talk to it
[11:04] <frib> *usb drive
[11:04] <[Saint]> frib: did you both the case on the UUID?
[11:04] <[Saint]> (in fstab)
[11:04] <[Saint]> *botch
[11:04] <frib> [Saint] fstab is configured correctly
[11:04] <frib> sudo mount -a works fine
[11:04] <frib> it's just at boot time doesn't work
[11:04] <[Saint]> odd.
[11:04] <frib> right
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[11:04] <[Saint]> aaaaaaaaahhhhhh, hmmm. maybe its a timing issue.
[11:05] <frib> shouldn't happen though :\
[11:05] <[Saint]> trying to mount it before it actually can?
[11:05] <frib> my pi w/normal sd doesn't do it
[11:05] <[Saint]> ie. not all modules up yet.
[11:05] <password2> maybe your usb drive takes a while to become ready making it still anavailable at boot
[11:05] <[Saint]> or that, yeah.
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[11:06] <[Saint]> See if it'll mount if you do it via an @reboot cronjob
[11:06] <frib> is there a fix? (again, my other pi w/normal sd card doesn't have this prob)
[11:06] <frib> and usb drive is identical
[11:06] <[Saint]> the above'll likely do it.
[11:06] <[Saint]> make an @reboot cronjob that mounts it.
[11:06] <frib> ok i'll try
[11:06] <[Saint]> a bit of a hack, but, should work.
[11:06] <frib> sudo's crontab right
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[11:07] <password2> cronjobs!
[11:07] <[Saint]> In the future, robot hookers will be selling $20 cronjobs in the WallMart carpark for cheap thrills.
[11:08] <frib> cronjob worked
[11:08] <[Saint]> woo!
[11:08] <[Saint]> hacky, but, woo!
[11:08] <frib> felt good, too
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[11:08] <[Saint]> Everyone likes a good cronjob.
[11:10] * password2 wonders if cronjobs are turing complete
[11:11] <frib> what's that command to add a service to boot? sudo update-rc.d rpcbind defaults ?? somethign like that?
[11:11] <password2> would make an interesting esoteric language
[11:11] <[Saint]> I had a disturbing thought before that creeped me out.
[11:11] <AlephTwo> Don't think so, unless you marry it to a script which can also rewrite the crontab
[11:11] <[Saint]> AI, right? Turing tests.
[11:11] <[Saint]> ...if an AI was smart enough to pass a turing test, wouldn't it also be smart enough to deliberately fail it too?
[11:12] <[Saint]> DUN DUN DUN!!!!!!!!!!
[11:12] <[Saint]> <dramatic music>
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[11:12] <password2> turing test is weak
[11:12] <password2> theres a chatbot that passed it
[11:13] <[Saint]> that's widely claimed to be the case but the test parameters were absolute bullcrap and the judges cherrypicked.
[11:13] <AlephTwo> eugene
[11:13] <[Saint]> yeah, that was...yeah.
[11:13] <password2> i think some humans would also fail the test
[11:14] <AlephTwo> *some* yeah
[11:14] <[Saint]> Indeed so.
[11:14] <AlephTwo> Shame that there's not much detailed news on eugene. All appear to be fluff pieces
[11:14] <[Saint]> The whole thing was a fluff piece.
[11:14] <[Saint]> The judging was just rank.
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[11:15] <AlephTwo> kevin warwick. That explains it
[11:15] <[Saint]> Hahahaha
[11:15] <AlephTwo> 33% of the judges were "fooled" so Kevin decided it had passed.
[11:16] <AlephTwo> How's that rfid tag in his arm doing? ("trans-human", sigh)
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[11:16] <AlephTwo> And the bot was excused due to it's claim of being young.
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[11:16] <[Saint]> Right.
[11:17] <[Saint]> Yet it didn't stop a LOT of media from picking it up, claiming it was AI, and that the Turing test had finally been beaten.
[11:17] <[Saint]> *sigh*
[11:17] <AlephTwo> You know the level of idiocy is high when warwick is mentioned
[11:17] <[Saint]> He didn't used to be so bat-crap insane.
[11:18] <AlephTwo> The headlines should have read "Kevin Warwick has failed the Turing Test"
[11:18] <AlephTwo> ...again
[11:18] <AlephTwo> Unfortunately the media love him, as he is batshit insane
[11:18] <[Saint]> Huh. Kung Fury! has been released in full for free.
[11:19] <AlephTwo> watched it yesterday. Awesome!!!!
[11:19] <[Saint]> "Only 80s Kids Will Understand Kung Fury!"
[11:19] <AlephTwo> I'm a 70's kid :P
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[11:21] <frib> raspberry isn't playing video in vlc. just hangs. is that a common error?
[11:25] <[Saint]> I feel like I'm going to be having unsavoury dreams about Kung Fury/David Sandberg tonight...
[11:25] <[Saint]> He's a very pretty boy.
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[11:34] <frib> any reason why vlc would have problems playing video on raspbian?
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[11:40] <AlephTwo> buffering?
[11:41] <frib> AlephTwo, it just freezes after opening an mp4
[11:41] <frib> no video
[11:41] <AlephTwo> Try other codecs
[11:41] <AlephTwo> Ensure the problem is with vlc first
[11:41] <AlephTwo> Does it play in other stuff?
[11:42] <frib> the file yes
[11:42] <AlephTwo> Does vlc play other stuff?
[11:42] <frib> 2 different mp4 files both don't work
[11:43] <frib> i could try an mp3
[11:43] <AlephTwo> Try .avi also
[11:43] <AlephTwo> If you start vlc from the shell, does it give any error message before it freezes?
[11:43] <frib> i don't have one
[11:44] <AlephTwo> you don't have a shell?
[11:44] <frib> AlephTwo, i don't have a usb keyboard, could itry running it in ssh?
[11:44] <frib> dont have an avi
[11:44] <AlephTwo> ah
[11:44] <AlephTwo> vlc relies on a bunch of codecs. There is the possibility that it's pulling the wrong codec.
[11:45] <AlephTwo> If you run it over ssh, a large bitrate file will probably freeze/stutter
[11:45] <frib> vlc plays mp3 fine and audio is heard fine
[11:45] <AlephTwo> but to get remote x: ssh -X -C pi@my_pi.whatever
[11:45] <frib> i dont understand sorry
[11:45] <AlephTwo> *x-apps over ssh
[11:45] <frib> oh, is that a way to remotely execute via ssh?
[11:45] <frib> on the local machine?
[11:45] <AlephTwo> To fire up vlc on your pi, but display it on your local machine
[11:46] <frib> oh it's the opposite
[11:46] <AlephTwo> ssh -X -C pi@192.168.10.whereve
[11:46] <AlephTwo> then run vlc to get the screen on your local machine
[11:46] <frib> did you know my subnet was .10.0/24 ?
[11:46] <frib> or that was a coincidence?
[11:46] <AlephTwo> It's one of the defaults
[11:46] <frib> ok
[11:46] <AlephTwo> Mine is .1/24
[11:46] <AlephTwo> :P
[11:47] <frib> most people don't use 192.168.10 but 192.168.1 i thought
[11:47] <AlephTwo> Some use 2.0/24, depends upon home router default config for most people
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[11:48] <AlephTwo> My experience says that 1.0/24 is the most common, followed by 2.0/24 and 10.0/24
[11:48] <frib> ok so le tme run that comand
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[11:50] <frib> ok so i see vlc
[11:50] <AlephTwo> Have you tried playing the .mp4 files on another machine? Just thought I'd ask
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[11:50] <frib> yes both work
[11:50] <AlephTwo> Then I'd look at vlc codecs installed
[11:51] <AlephTwo> But you'll need logs or debug output
[11:51] <frib> but vlc plays mp4 by default i thought
[11:51] <AlephTwo> vlc.exe --extraintf=http:logger --verbose=2 --file-logging --logfile=vlc-log.txt
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[11:52] <digitaldias> Heya, had to reboot - back again :)
[11:52] <AlephTwo> strip the .exe :)
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[11:52] <frib> now run the file?
[11:52] <AlephTwo> yes from the ssh@pi window
[11:52] <frib> ok
[11:53] <AlephTwo> vlc doesn't log by default
[11:53] <frib> [0x1ed71b8] xcb_xv vout display error: shared memory server-side error: X11 error 10
[11:53] <frib> [0x1ed71b8] xcb_xv vout display error: same error on retry: X11 error 10
[11:53] <frib> [0x1ed71b8] xcb_xv vout display: using buggy X11 server - SSH proxying?
[11:53] <AlephTwo> It recognises it's over ssh. Nice :)
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[11:54] <frib> [0x1ed8490] pulse audio output error: PulseAudio server connection failure: Connection refused
[11:54] <frib> those are the only errors i see :\
[11:54] <frib> video not playing though
[11:54] <AlephTwo> You said vlc plays other files?
[11:54] <frib> mp3 worked
[11:54] <frib> avi i dont have
[11:54] <AlephTwo> No pulseaudio errors with the .mp3?
[11:54] <frib> didn't run w/debug but i can check
[11:55] <AlephTwo> Output the logs and have a look at them afterwards. Could be a buffering issue.
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[11:55] <frib> yes also w/mp3 there is pulse error
[11:56] <AlephTwo> So it's not that then
[11:56] <frib> but only that
[11:56] <frib> most likely not
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[11:56] <frib> i set mem split to 256 (i think max)
[11:56] <AlephTwo> That may be it
[11:56] <frib> thats max in favor of gpu
[11:56] <AlephTwo> My pi's are on default setting.
[11:57] <frib> why would more memory hurt
[11:57] <AlephTwo> I have XMBC running on one - smooth and nice
[11:57] <frib> default i belive is 32?
[11:57] <AlephTwo> You could be taking too much memory from the app0 side
[11:57] <frib> right
[11:57] <digitaldias> any experience with grovepi + rpi2 on windows 10?
[11:57] <frib> u right
[11:57] <frib> ill try setting to 32
[11:57] <AlephTwo> gl
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[12:00] <frib> rpcbind is not running at boot.. shouldn't it if i use update-rc.d rpcbind defaults?
[12:01] <AlephTwo> I don't know anything about rcpbind. That being said... https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=30589
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[12:01] <[Saint]> I'm more familiar with systemctl
[12:01] <[Saint]> 'systemctl start <service> foo' etc.
[12:02] <frib> its really about update-rc not rpcbind
[12:03] <frib> your link saved me.. thanks
[12:03] <frib> for some reason requires "enable"
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[12:04] <AlephTwo> :)
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[12:08] <frib> AlephTwo, changing memsplit didn't fix it :\
[12:08] <frib> oh wait its playing all of a suddent after memsplit and then running via ssh
[12:09] <AlephTwo> You could go check your vlc plugins to ensure it can play .mp4 files (depending upon codecs inside the .mp4 container, that is)
[12:09] <frib> but no video only audio
[12:09] <AlephTwo> If that fails, you could maybe go ask on the #videolan channel to see if anybody could assist you?
[12:09] <AlephTwo> Sounds more & more like a codec issue.
[12:09] <frib> ok
[12:09] <AlephTwo> If you right-click on the .mp4 and go properties
[12:10] <AlephTwo> nm
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[12:10] <AlephTwo> Have you tried a different movie player? is mplayer out for the PI?
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[12:17] <frib> i wanted to try omxplayer everyone says it works but i can't open it
[12:17] <frib> i hav eno usb keyboard and when i made a ln it just opens terminal and closes ( i suppose no gui )??
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[12:18] <frib> by gkreidl � Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:53 pm
[12:18] <frib> sudo apt-get install vlc (from a terminal)
[12:18] <frib> That's all. But you cannot use it for video (no hardware acceleration), only for audio.
[12:19] <frib> The arm processor of the RPi does not have enough calculating power to do that.
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[12:19] <AlephTwo> gpu does the gfx decoding I'd assume. I don't know omxplayer at all
[12:20] <frib> my only issue is running it without a keyboard
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[12:21] <AlephTwo> push a script up and fire it off with crontab
[12:21] <frib> does it even have a gui?
[12:21] <frib> i find it hard to believe it doesnt
[12:21] <AlephTwo> does what have a gui?
[12:21] <frib> omxplayer
[12:21] <AlephTwo> dunno
[12:22] <frib> ill try an sh script
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[12:22] <AlephTwo> http://elinux.org/Omxplayer may help you figure out omxplayer
[12:22] <AlephTwo> try running vlc as root over the ssh
[12:23] <AlephTwo> You could be suffering a permissions issue
[12:23] <AlephTwo> from that page: On bare installations of the default distributions, Omxplayer often has insufficient permissions to access /dev/vchiq. One solution would be to run Omxplayer as root, but a nicer solution is to add a udev rule so that /dev/vchiq is also accessible from other users. To accomplish this, do the following under root:
[12:23] <AlephTwo> Which "could" also apply to vlc
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[12:24] <frib> omx failed to open vchiq instance
[12:25] <frib> AlephTwo, that post explicitly stated that the pi is not capable of running video in vlc
[12:25] <AlephTwo> Doesn't say that to me
[12:29] <[Saint]> If we want to get specific that post doesn't seem to mention the words "can't" or "video" or "vlc" in the given context at all.
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[12:30] <AlephTwo> No, but it does mention issues with a similar pi player not having permissions to /dev/vchiq I don't use vlc on pi myself, so am unsure if this helps. I think it may be pertinent
[12:31] <AlephTwo> and if all goes horribly wrong, you could recompile for the pi: http://intensecode.blogspot.gr/2013/10/tutorial-vlc-with-hardware-acceleration.html
[12:32] <AlephTwo> He talks about using the --vout omxil_vout parameter with his compiled vlc. Maybe that's what you're missing?
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[12:39] <andoma> frib: you might be interested in Movian (http://movian.tv) if you're wanted to try a different player (Disclaimer: I'm the author of it)
[12:40] <AlephTwo> Cool. You can pester him to get it running in realtime :D
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[12:51] <cheesenbiscuits> Hi Everybody!
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[12:52] <cheesenbiscuits> I'm setting up a raspberry pi print server using cups...
[12:53] <cheesenbiscuits> cups doesn't have the driver for my usb laser printer...
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[12:53] <cheesenbiscuits> I was looking at foo2hbpl which does, but it's not for raspberrypi
[12:53] <cheesenbiscuits> how do I compile it to be able to use it?
[12:53] <cheesenbiscuits> (under raspberrypi)
[12:56] <frib> andoma, thank you i may check it out
[12:56] <frib> andoma, does it have possibilty to exit full screen via mouse? omxplayer does not apparently
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[13:00] <[Saint]> frib: there's various GUI frontends for omxplayer available
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[13:00] <[Saint]> countless variantions.
[13:00] <[Saint]> *variations
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[13:02] <frib> [Saint], oh realy
[13:02] <frib> didn't know that
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[13:03] <seriema> how can I set eth0 to not try to connect on boot, or rather: if wlan0 worked then don't waste time with eth0 ?
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[13:05] <Kunsi> remove "auto eth0" in /etc/network/interfaces
[13:05] <seriema> ah
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[13:06] <seriema> is there a way to make it try wlan0 first, then if it fails it does eth0? maybe just move the order of them in /etc/network/interfaces ?
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[13:08] <digitaldias> N00b Question again: I've got a JQX-15F Relay for some garage opener action, but can't find a schematic for it. Anyone know where I can find that?
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[13:17] <seriema> I added an OS to the NOOB installer. I was already running Raspbian, but if I boot and press shift to get into NOOB and select my new OS (so both Raspbian and it are selected) then I get a warning that it will loose my current Raspbian install. Is there a way around this?
[13:19] <dan2wik> are there any libraries to transfer internet between 2-3 Pi's using NRF24l01 modules?
[13:19] <[Saint]> not using NOOBs? ;)
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[13:21] <Tenkawa> hi all
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[13:48] <seriema> anyone know what this means? "RetroPie: Error executing partition setup script" https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6739b4a8da2009f798b4
[13:48] <AlephTwo> last line
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[13:49] <AlephTwo> which means that either temp/2 did not mount or tmp/2 has no etc/fstab
[13:49] <seriema> AlephTwo: right. so maybe the /dev/mmcblk0p7 files were missing or something?
[13:50] <AlephTwo> Try mounting the sd card in another device to see what partitions are on it. Or open gparted/fstab w/e
[13:50] <AlephTwo> or manually mount /dev/mmcblk0p8 somewhere and check it out
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[13:51] <seriema> hm
[13:51] <AlephTwo> as to the actual sed command. I don't know enough regex to comment
[13:51] <AlephTwo> you could also try mount /dev/mmcblk0p7 and see what's in there.
[13:51] <AlephTwo> post the script
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[13:52] <ahop> AlephTwo: you have a RPi1 or RPi2 ?
[13:52] <AlephTwo> the error is that it's failing to either find a file on one of the partitions, or failing to mount them
[13:52] <AlephTwo> I have pi2's
[13:52] <AlephTwo> my pi1's broke :(
[13:52] <ahop> AlephTwo: do you feel like testing my image? http://www.samplerbox.org/files/samplerbox_20150531.zip
[13:53] <ahop> (for my project www.samplerbox.org)
[13:53] <AlephTwo> I don't have any usd cards handy. I'll have a scout around
[13:53] <ahop> Beta testing welcome :)
[13:53] <AlephTwo> Why are you using retropie?
[13:53] <AlephTwo> You should look into incorporating SonicPi into the build
[13:54] <seriema> trying to remote to my rpi atm
[13:54] <seriema> oh?
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[13:54] <AlephTwo> http://sonic-pi.net/
[13:54] <AlephTwo> bags of awesome
[13:54] <seriema> seems like something completely different? I want emulators =/
[13:54] <AlephTwo> sry. didn't realies
[13:55] <AlephTwo> *realise
[13:55] <seriema> ah ok
[13:55] <AlephTwo> That works with midi also
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[13:55] <AlephTwo> It can also be controlled from keyboard
[13:55] <seriema> for games?
[13:56] <AlephTwo> It hooks into to the minecraft-pi api. You can control sound-effects from game actions
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[13:56] <AlephTwo> It has a server. I was tinkering with python to poke to it - it basically sets up a server which listens for ruby commands
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[13:57] <AlephTwo> You can set up threading, programmable loops, all sorts. If you have a game with an api, it could be used to fire off sound events
[13:58] <seriema> lol cool
[13:58] <seriema> I just want to play some old games though. NES, SNES, MegaDrive, etc
[13:58] <AlephTwo> On your midi keyboard?
[13:59] <seriema> what? I don't have a midi keyboard =/
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[13:59] <seriema> I never mentioned music or anything. hmm
[13:59] <AlephTwo> haha
[13:59] <AlephTwo> my bad
[13:59] <AlephTwo> Was replying to another dude
[13:59] <seriema> lol
[14:00] <AlephTwo> ahop: that was all for you :P
[14:00] <ahop> AlephTwo: ohh h sorry I didn't see, I thought it was another discusison
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[14:00] <AlephTwo> yeah, go look at that software, ahop
[14:00] <ahop> sonic pi?
[14:00] <AlephTwo> seriema: can you post the script which you was using?
[14:01] <ahop> Yes I had seen, seems interesting
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[14:01] <AlephTwo> You should hook that into your project, licensing permitting
[14:01] <seriema> AlephTwo: yeah, just got into my rpi again heh (SSH key issues after reinstall)
[14:02] <seriema> AlephTwo: I used the prepared RetroPie SD thing, so what's the name of the file I'm looking for? I manually changed os.json and partitions.js only
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[14:02] <AlephTwo> the one which you used to (attempt to) resize the partitions, which gave you the error
[14:03] <seriema> I just ran NOOBs and selected Retropie and Raspbian. after installing for a while I got that error
[14:04] <AlephTwo> It's the sd card you are ssh-ing into now?
[14:05] <seriema> ssh-ing into raspbian
[14:05] <seriema> but I also have a copy of the NOOBS folder locally on my computer
[14:05] <AlephTwo> Sounds like an issue with the number of partitions on your sd card
[14:06] <seriema> maybe this? it's the retropie partitions.json I edited: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/417ab5676f6ad55900ee
[14:06] <AlephTwo> According to the documentation, if you boot into a fresh N00bs image, it automatically attempts to resize the partition
[14:07] <seriema> yeah I think that was one of the things it did
[14:07] <AlephTwo> If you already have multiple partitions on the sd card, it will most likely f*sk up
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[14:08] <seriema> hmm I didn't have that on purpose though. I've only formatted it into one
[14:08] <seriema> ah found the setup script!
[14:08] <AlephTwo> https://github.com/raspberrypi/noobs/blob/master/README.md
[14:08] <seriema> partition_setup.sh for retropie (copied from raspbian): https://gist.github.com/anonymous/bcc0d20020e2b163dfca
[14:10] <seriema> that noob setup seems like what I did. I already had raspbian installed, and when I booted into noobs again and selected both raspbian and retropie it told me it would format and reinstall etc. I clicked ok.
[14:10] <AlephTwo> Going back to the error message, I'd say that it may have failed to mount /tmp/1
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[14:12] <AlephTwo> it can't find /tmp/2/etc/fstab
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[14:12] <AlephTwo> therefore /dev/mmcblk0p8 was NOT mounted
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[14:12] <AlephTwo> or it did not have etc/fstab in the filesystem
[14:13] <AlephTwo> So, pull that card from the pi and then drop it into a microsd reader and see what partitions are on it
[14:13] <seriema> ok
[14:13] <seriema> btw, this was the retropie guide I used for NOOB: https://github.com/petrockblog/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/Convert-RetroPie-SD-Card-Image-to-NOOBS-Image
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[14:14] <AlephTwo> you're using a mac
[14:14] <AlephTwo> ?
[14:14] <seriema> partitions on my sd card: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/4796c1d4f76b415eac19
[14:14] <seriema> yepp
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[14:15] <AlephTwo> kk. We'd be better in a linux box. Does the image boot at all?
[14:15] <AlephTwo> *any image?
[14:15] <seriema> the raspbian works
[14:15] <AlephTwo> k. Boot into that and jump into a shell. We can examaine from there
[14:16] <seriema> ok
[14:17] <seriema> damn, let me get back to you in 10min.
[14:18] <AlephTwo> ahop: I'd better get my aging netbook out so I can dump that image /ark
[14:18] <AlephTwo> *afk
[14:27] <ahop> AlephTwo: that image won't work on a netbook. You need an ARM such as RPi
[14:27] <seriema> back
[14:27] <AlephTwo> ahop: It's my burning machine. Built-in sd readers
[14:28] <AlephTwo> 30 minute copy over my busy network connection :/
[14:29] <seriema> wth suddenly I can't ssh into my rpi
[14:29] <AlephTwo> You have a phone with fing installed (or similar?). Maybe it's dhcp lease has changed ip?
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[14:31] <seriema> I can't even login on it physically... it asks for login, then password, then just sits there
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[14:32] <seriema> is there a safe way to reboot it if I can't log into to say `sudo reboot` ?
[14:34] <seriema> now it logged in! (didn't reboot) but it seems stuck on something...
[14:35] <seriema> no it just got stuck on the license text. can't log in =/
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[14:45] <AlephTwo> noobs license text?
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[14:49] <seriema> raspbian
[14:49] <seriema> any way for me to kill it? reboot at least?
[14:49] <AlephTwo> ctrl+c?
[14:49] <AlephTwo> Just pull the power if it's sitting there doing nothing - you'll be ok
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[14:50] <seriema> ok done
[14:51] <seriema> finally! I'm in
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[14:52] <AlephTwo> http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/may/18/russia-ios-android-sailfish-os < Could be new "open-source" phone coming?
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[14:54] <seriema> AlephTwo: I'm finally in. now what? =) I could also start over with wiping the sd etc etc. I kinda want my Retropie partition to be way bigger than the Raspbian one at least (games take a lot of space)
[14:55] <AlephTwo> So you can first see what's mounted
[14:55] <AlephTwo> How's your linux-fu?
[14:58] <seriema> not great, but I'll manage
[14:58] <AlephTwo> so sudo parted
[14:58] <AlephTwo> then print devices
[14:58] <AlephTwo> Will show you what's around
[14:59] <seriema> result https://gist.github.com/anonymous/f96876981f73dd74818a
[14:59] <AlephTwo> There's more tools, but I generally use gparted on the netbook myself
[14:59] <AlephTwo> So only one partition on there
[14:59] <seriema> hm I saw two partitions when I used the SD on my mac (well 3 partitions, one was recovery)
[15:00] <AlephTwo> ls /dev/mmc*
[15:00] <seriema> what it said on my mac before: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/343f1237fa0dca34496d
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[15:01] <AlephTwo> no, it says /dev/mmcblk0p...
[15:01] <AlephTwo> It'd be nice to know what maps to where from mac>linux :)
[15:01] <PixelFilth> AlephTwo, Jolla Phone (not available in most counties)
[15:01] <seriema> lol I can't exit parted... ctrl+c doesn't do anything
[15:01] <AlephTwo> type quit
[15:01] <seriema> doh
[15:02] <seriema> ls gave: /dev/mmcblk0 /dev/mmcblk0p1 /dev/mmcblk0p2 /dev/mmcblk0p3 /dev/mmcblk0p5 /dev/mmcblk0p6 /dev/mmcblk0p7 /dev/mmcblk0p8
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[15:03] <AlephTwo> So, when you do df -h to see what's mounted before we go mounting anything
[15:03] <seriema> df -h: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/afebe087b717caf4d03d
[15:04] <AlephTwo> cool. Now sudo -s to get a root prompt
[15:04] <AlephTwo> mkdir mnt1
[15:04] <AlephTwo> mkdir mnt2
[15:04] <AlephTwo> mount /dev/mmcblk0p7 mnt1
[15:05] <AlephTwo> mount /dev/mmcblk0p8 mnt2
[15:05] <AlephTwo> Those were the two partitions complaining in the partition resizing thing.
[15:05] <AlephTwo> seriema: I have a question. The only reason you are making the partition bigger is to store more roms, yes?
[15:05] <seriema> yes
[15:06] <seriema> but atm retropie isn't even working so...
[15:06] <AlephTwo> You could stuff them onto an external drive or usb thumb drive and symlink into it
[15:06] <seriema> yeah, but the goal is to later make a gameboy thing =) also, I've got a 64gb sd just for this
[15:06] <AlephTwo> Much less hassle than customising multiple installs
[15:07] <seriema> I could just put retropie on it and get another sd for raspbian if needed
[15:07] <AlephTwo> So now you need an easy way to resize the retropie partition
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[15:07] <seriema> that would be great
[15:07] <AlephTwo> I'd start from scratch with the following steps:
[15:08] <AlephTwo> 1 - reimage the sd card with noobs
[15:08] <seriema> I just did the mount steps you wrote above =/
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[15:08] <AlephTwo> kk. Let's try to figure out which is which
[15:08] <AlephTwo> or do you want to start fresh?
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[15:09] <AlephTwo> if you go into each of the mounted directories and do: more etc/hostname they will give you their respective os names
[15:09] <AlephTwo> i.e.
[15:09] <AlephTwo> more mnt1/etc/hostname mnt2/etc/hostname
[15:09] <seriema> I don't mind either way. I'm learning a lot
[15:10] <AlephTwo> One of them will say retropie
[15:10] <AlephTwo> *hopefully*
[15:11] <seriema> both say raspberrypi =/
[15:11] <AlephTwo> well. that's unfortunate :/
[15:11] <seriema> hehe yeah
[15:11] <seriema> if somethings wrong in the setup script, I could just rerun NOOBS to reinstall raspbian and retropi
[15:11] <AlephTwo> Yeah. You could.
[15:12] <seriema> but what was wrong in the setup script? otherwise I'd just get the same issue again
[15:12] <AlephTwo> You could install raspbian then shrink it's partition if you must before installing retropie
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[15:13] <AlephTwo> is either of those mounted filesystems missing an fstab?
[15:13] <AlephTwo> ls mnt1/etc/fs*
[15:13] <AlephTwo> ls mnt2/etc/fst*
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[15:14] <Tenkawa> hey all.. anyone got any experience with the banana pi series to compare it say to a pi 2
[15:14] <seriema> both have it
[15:14] <AlephTwo> Then the mount must have failed
[15:15] <Tenkawa> make sure you fully qualify that path
[15:15] <AlephTwo> If you want to silently install via noobs (i.e. without a screen), you can follow the instructions on their site
[15:15] <AlephTwo> https://github.com/raspberrypi/noobs/blob/master/README.md
[15:15] <Tenkawa> ls mnt/ blah is only going to work if you cd / first
[15:15] <AlephTwo> assuming mnt1/ is in your current directory
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[15:16] <AlephTwo> bbs, cat is bothering me :/
[15:16] <Tenkawa> assuming.... thats the key..
[15:16] <Tenkawa> da
[15:16] <Tenkawa> er
[15:16] <Tenkawa> AlephTwo: i know how that goes ( got 4 of them )
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[15:17] <Tenkawa> seriema: i missed the earlier parts.. whats wrong?
[15:18] <seriema> Tenkawa: I'm trying to have both raspbian and retropie on the same sd card. I've used the official retropie instructions to make it into a NOOB os option. but when installing them the retropie failed
[15:18] <Tenkawa> ahhh
[15:18] <Tenkawa> part of the problem is going to be what the kernel interprets as root=
[15:19] <Tenkawa> they are 2 seperate filesystems right?
[15:19] <temmi_hoo> so whoever wanted to remote control a raspi/hdmi device via ssh or something: vnc does the job
[15:19] <temmi_hoo> there are some others as well
[15:19] <seriema> Tenkawa: not sure =/ I did what this said: https://github.com/petrockblog/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/Convert-RetroPie-SD-Card-Image-to-NOOBS-Image
[15:19] <Tenkawa> you'd have to specify which root=/dev/mmcblk0p* at boot
[15:20] <seriema> Tenkawa: well, at install it ended with this: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6739b4a8da2009f798b4
[15:21] <Tenkawa> i build everything by hand so i dont know much about their scripts/installers
[15:21] <Tenkawa> and i run core debian....
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[15:23] <seriema> ok =/
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[15:25] <AlephTwo> did you edit the partitions.js file?
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[15:25] <AlephTwo> (these instructions assume you're only using a single OS at a time with NOOBS - they won't work if you're running multiple OSes from a single SD card).
[15:26] <seriema> I did edit it yes
[15:26] <seriema> why not? if it's a NOOBS image, shouldn't NOOB handle it?
[15:26] <AlephTwo> Apparently n00bs doesn't dual boot
[15:27] <seriema> why does it allow you to select multiple OS'es to install?
[15:28] <AlephTwo> I think that it stomps over the other os and reinstalls a different one each time
[15:28] <seriema> AlephTwo: https://github.com/raspberrypi/noobs/blob/master/README.md#os-boot-selector
[15:29] <AlephTwo> Yes, and if you read down to where you are editing the partitions.js file you get the caveat mentioned earlier
[15:30] <AlephTwo> So their instructions fail for multiple custom os installs
[15:31] <seriema> it's just for the step 9 though? because the retropie instructions differed there a bit, using the name "retropie" instead of "root"
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[15:34] <AlephTwo> I don't know how noobs does the install stuff. It *appears* that they shrink the noobs partition on boot, then give you the option to install multiple os's. I'm assuming that it creates a new partition for each os. If so, you should be able to achieve satisfaction.
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[15:34] <AlephTwo> You have noobs installed and working on your card, yes?
[15:35] <seriema> yepps
[15:35] <AlephTwo> I'm assuming that partitions.json contains information about the size of the partition it wants to create for each os
[15:35] <seriema> it's just the retropie installation that failed
[15:35] <seriema> yeah
[15:35] <AlephTwo> so remove the retropie installation first
[15:35] <seriema> I've updated it now to ask for a bigger partition for retropie
[15:35] <AlephTwo> You are left with noobs and raspbian
[15:36] <AlephTwo> Then you install retropie & afterwards boot into raspbian
[15:36] <seriema> every time you run noobs to install an OS, it reinstalls all of them
[15:36] <AlephTwo> really?!
[15:37] <seriema> i.e. if I ask for just raspbian, and then raspbian+retropie it removes the first raspbian
[15:37] <seriema> yeah
[15:37] <seriema> that was my first question today ^^
[15:37] <AlephTwo> So if you just ask for rasbian, then after just ask for retropie, does it remove the raspbian?
[15:37] <seriema> couldn't find a way around it, had to kill the raspbian I spent all last night fixing (but I saved the commands)
[15:38] <seriema> if I ask for raspbian, then run NOOBs again, raspbian is "checked". I didn't try unchecking it when I checked retropie
[15:38] <seriema> but I guess it would be the only simple way to split into partitions and set up multiple os'es?
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[15:38] <AlephTwo> If noobs doesn't remove the partition when you uncheck it, then you can do your thing
[15:39] <seriema> hmm but I don't mind reinstalling raspbian, I don't have anything on it
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[15:40] <AlephTwo> Install both simultaneously and then boot into raspbian to resize retropie
[15:41] <seriema> sure
[15:41] <seriema> but the retropie install never worked
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[15:41] <seriema> once that works I can worry about partition sizes
[15:41] <AlephTwo> Fresh start. Simultaneous installs from a fresh sd-image
[15:41] <seriema> yikes
[15:41] <AlephTwo> of noobs
[15:41] <seriema> ok
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[15:42] <AlephTwo> If you can get them both working, you can just create a new partition with the free space and drop your roms into there
[15:42] <AlephTwo> symlink the top-level retropie roms folder
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[15:43] <seriema> format the sd as FAT, right? I've got a 64gb sd so I have to use the disk utilities in mac instead of the official sd formatter, correct?
[15:43] <AlephTwo> Yeah. you could do that.
[15:43] <seriema> cool
[15:43] <AlephTwo> Then it will resize on first boot and ask you to select installs. Install both & boot into raspbian
[15:44] <AlephTwo> From there you can either a) create new partition for rom storage & mount it directly in the correct location, or b) resize the retropie partition
[15:47] <seriema> cool
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[15:48] <AlephTwo> If you are keeping the sd card filesystem fairly static after that, you can just edit the fstab in retropie to mount the extra partition in the right place at boot.
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[15:51] <seriema> scary =)
[15:51] <AlephTwo> easy as pi
[15:51] <seriema> lol...
[15:51] <seriema> I'm redoing this, and currently on step 1 (flashing sd is slow): https://github.com/petrockblog/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/Convert-RetroPie-SD-Card-Image-to-NOOBS-Image
[15:52] <digitaldias> Should try windows 10, it works like a charm :)
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[15:53] <seriema> not sure what I would want to do with win10 on a rpi though? I don't even want it on my laptop :D
[15:53] <AlephTwo> Not had windows for years
[15:54] <digitaldias> I'm currently using it for cloud-connecting my doorbell over GPIO, and animating a few LED strips over SPI0 - soon I'll be able to produce some awesome stats from my Azure tables :)
[15:54] <seriema> hmm I don't remember flashing an sd to be THIS slow, or maybe it is?
[15:54] <seriema> digitaldias: do you need win10 for that though? anything that can do json api calls should be enough?
[15:54] <MY123> digitaldias, I use Windows 10 IoT only because of PowerShell :-)
[15:55] <digitaldias> Nah, windows 10 goes further, it has full XAML support, so doing sexy user interfaces is easy as.. well, apples :D
[15:55] <MY123> seriema, and there is DX9 support
[15:56] <digitaldias> for any headless apps, you're right tho, I can use win10 or some l*nux variant, only difference being C#, java or C
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[15:56] <seriema> MY123: ok, but it's not powerful enough to use it fully so I don't get it?
[15:56] <digitaldias> what do you mean by fully, seriema?
[15:56] <MY123> seriema, it's powerful enough to use Minion Rush :P
[15:56] <seriema> digitaldias: anything "impressive"
[15:56] <digitaldias> I'm running videos on that thing in 1920x1080 :)
[15:57] <seriema> digitaldias: I spent an hour or so figuring out which nodejs to install on the rpi =D
[15:57] <MY123> seriema, use the MSFT NodeJS
[15:57] <digitaldias> to each his own I Guess. I love C# too much to go for anything else :)
[15:57] <seriema> it can run videos in hd without dx9 though?
[15:57] <digitaldias> haven't touched netduino yet tho
[15:57] <seriema> digitaldias: I did too. before that I loved C++. but now... JS ftw!!
[15:58] <MY123> seriema, 720p without HW acceleration
[15:58] <MY123> seriema, NodeJS works well with Chakra
[15:58] <seriema> MY123: my friend uses it as a media station. forgot what he used, but it wasn't win10 and he did 1080p movies
[15:58] <MY123> http://blogs.windows.com/buildingapps/2015/05/12/bringing-node-js-to-windows-10-iot-core/
[15:59] <MY123> seriema, running the Office universal apps is also possible
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[15:59] <MY123> seriema, and you can use much of the Win32 API :-)
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[16:01] <AlephTwo> http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/05/super-secretive-malware-wipes-hard-drive-to-prevent-analysis/
[16:01] <AlephTwo> so does that :)
[16:01] <AlephTwo> Sorry, was reading an article, couldn't resist
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[16:04] <seriema> MY123: hehe yeah well, I kinda lost interest in those things with time I guess
[16:04] <abnormal> that's good news
[16:05] <abnormal> did you ever read the article in www.badusb.com?
[16:06] <seriema> AlephTwo: I'm a bit confused on step 3 actually. I don't have a partition called retropie or anything on my newly imaged sd card (that I test-ran on my rpi without issues just now): https://github.com/petrockblog/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/Convert-RetroPie-SD-Card-Image-to-NOOBS-Image
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[16:07] <seriema> diskutil list gives me: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/276e2c38397b3f65dae9
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[16:07] <AlephTwo> kk. 2s1 is boot & 2s2 is retropie. diskutil is giving type & not name
[16:08] <AlephTwo> I'm assuming
[16:08] <seriema> yeah probably
[16:08] <AlephTwo> Not had a mac for about 6 years, so...
[16:08] <seriema> step 4 is to create a tar of the retropie filesystem. but how do I `cd /Volumes/retropie` ?
[16:09] <AlephTwo> cd /Volumes
[16:09] <AlephTwo> ls
[16:09] <AlephTwo> See what's in there
[16:10] <seriema> BOOT and my hd
[16:10] <seriema> but isn't BOOT the 2s1?
[16:10] <AlephTwo> yes
[16:10] <AlephTwo> So 2s2 isn't mounted
[16:10] <AlephTwo> go mount it
[16:11] <AlephTwo> Unless you can't as it's linux and you are in macos
[16:12] <AlephTwo> http://osxdaily.com/2014/03/20/mount-ext-linux-file-system-mac/
[16:13] <AlephTwo> ..cat..
[16:14] <seriema> hmm
[16:17] <seriema> need to reboot (installed fuse)
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[16:21] <seriema> AlephTwo: I installed Fuse and rebooted. diskutil doesn't mount the linux partition
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[16:25] <seriema> but why would the guide mention OSX if it's so hard? "Create the .tar file of the main RetroPie filesystem (the 'retropie' partition). From the command line on your primary computer, navigate to where the 'retropie' partition is mounted (on OS X, try cd /Volumes/retropie)."
[16:25] <AlephTwo> Above it there's the tutorial I linked. Because windows & macos don't like reading other os filesystems very much, you need to fiddle.
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[16:26] <seriema> this link? http://osxdaily.com/2014/03/20/mount-ext-linux-file-system-mac/
[16:26] <seriema> I rebooted so the history is gone
[16:26] <AlephTwo> yes
[16:26] <seriema> well that's what I installed
[16:27] <AlephTwo> Are you hiding desktop icons or connected services from finder preferences?
[16:27] <AlephTwo> It shows up as a read-only network share, apparently
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[16:29] <seriema> checked that, still can't see it =/ but it shouldn't be hiding from the terminal anyway?
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[16:29] <AlephTwo> I can't remember how macOS mounts stuff
[16:29] <AlephTwo> May not be automounted
[16:30] <seriema> I did `diskutil mountDisk /dev/disk2`
[16:31] <AlephTwo> Have you examined the fuse preferences in control panel?
[16:31] <AlephTwo> They aren't going to show with diskutil
[16:31] <seriema> yeah it doesn't have anything
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[16:32] <AlephTwo> You did flash it to the sd card correctly? Sorry for asking, but it's weired
[16:32] <AlephTwo> *weird
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[16:33] <seriema> I think so, because I could run it on my raspberry =/
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[16:34] <AlephTwo> So assume the problem is the mac filesystem. You could try doing it all on the pi itself
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[16:34] <AlephTwo> If the card boots, then you can just tar the partitions out to another thumb drive and drop that into the mac to compress & include
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[16:36] <seriema> I'll try that then
[16:37] <AlephTwo> Just be careful tarballing dev :)
[16:38] <AlephTwo> /dev/urandom is a big file :)
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[16:40] <seriema> phew, I'm remoting to it now
[16:40] <seriema> ls gives me RetroPie RetroPie-Setup
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[16:41] <AlephTwo> that's contents of current directory
[16:41] <seriema> yeah
[16:41] <seriema> how do I see the partitions? diskutil isn't a command
[16:41] <AlephTwo> sudo fdisk -l to list the partitions
[16:41] <seriema> ah
[16:42] <seriema> I think I see it
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[16:42] <seriema> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/3491621e20d56404d868
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[16:43] <seriema> I guess it's /dev/mmcblk0p2 that I want
[16:43] <AlephTwo> Yup. p1 is boot & p2 is linux
[16:43] <seriema> I can't cd into it though
[16:43] <seriema> so how do I tar ball it?
[16:43] <AlephTwo> You need to copy the data from both of them. Now, if they are the currently-running operating system, it is unwise to mount them a second time
[16:43] <SirLagz> seriema: you can't cd into /dev/mmcblkop2
[16:43] <AlephTwo> if you type df -h
[16:43] <AlephTwo> you will get what is mounted where
[16:43] <SirLagz> seriema: you can mount it though to copy from it, but like AlephTwo said, don't do it on a running system.
[16:44] <AlephTwo> You have a card reader on your mac?? Do you have virtualbox or similar (qemu etc)?
[16:44] <AlephTwo> You can install linux into a vm and then use that to read the card reader
[16:44] <seriema> I have a card reader on my mac
[16:45] <AlephTwo> You can set virtualbox to pass that straight through to a virtual machine so that you can read ext4 from a linux box
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[16:45] <seriema> so I need a linux vm?.. how come the instructions on retropie's guide is just "cd /Volumes/retropie"? what am I missing?
[16:45] <AlephTwo> He managed to mount the partitions on his mac
[16:46] <AlephTwo> You didn't
[16:46] <AlephTwo> You want me to pull the data and zip it up for you somewhere?
[16:46] <seriema> right...
[16:46] <seriema> well I have a USB stick and the pi running with the sd card... but if I can't copy that info to the usb stick then wow it would be terribly nice of you
[16:47] <AlephTwo> It appears that your biggest problem is extracting the data from the two partitions so that you can drop them into noobs
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[16:47] <seriema> exactly
[16:47] <AlephTwo> So you want retropie unbundled, yes?
[16:47] <seriema> unbundled? I was running the v3 beta2
[16:48] <AlephTwo> Yes, you want me to extract the files from the image and send them to you somehow?
[16:48] <AlephTwo> You want for pi1 or pi2?
[16:48] <seriema> pi2
[16:48] <seriema> if you can, that would be super nice
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[16:48] <seriema> I was running "retropie-v3.0beta2-rpi2"
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[16:49] <AlephTwo> 30' to download. afk for a bit
[16:50] <seriema> ok... ping my name when you're back (it'll do a little notification so I'll see it)
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[16:50] <Trian3> Hello hello, all!
[16:51] <Trian3> I'm a little new to RPi. Been banging away, but still very green. I have a question about upgrading to jessie.
[16:51] <SirLagz> Trian3: That's really a question about Raspbian, and not the Raspberry Pi :) but carry on :)
[16:52] <Trian3> I've updated my sources.list file, then did "sudo apt-get update" which found a bunch of jessie related packages. Then I did "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and got... nothing.
[16:52] <Trian3> 0 upgrade, 0 newly installed... etc
[16:52] <SirLagz> Trian3: sounds like you're up to date
[16:53] <Trian3> I don't have jessie installed, though
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[16:54] <SirLagz> Trian3: if apt-get update shows jessie related lines, then you probably already have Jessie installed. Can you paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list somewhere ? paste.debian.net or something like that
[16:54] <Trian3> typing "cat /etc/*-release" gives "VERSION="7 (wheezy)"
[16:54] <Trian3> Ok, will do
[16:54] <AlephTwo> there's nothing in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[16:54] <AlephTwo> ?
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[16:57] <Trian3> https://paste.debian.net/190878/
[16:58] <Trian3> sources.list.d is empty, btw
[16:58] <SirLagz> Trian3: looks like Jessie is installed then. /etc/*-release could be inaccurate or wasn't updated for some odd reason.
[16:59] <AlephTwo> this
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[16:59] <Trian3> I understand python was updated from 3.2 to 3.4 in Jessie. I still have 3.2.
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[17:00] <SirLagz> Apparently I still have wheezy sources enabled but I have jessie in /etc/*-release
[17:00] <AlephTwo> hehe
[17:00] <SirLagz> Trian3: can you paste the output of "apt-get update" and then also the output of "apt-get -u dist-upgrade"
[17:01] <SirLagz> Trian3: maybe do an apt-get clean before you do those 2 commands too
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[17:01] <Trian3> ok, gimme a minute
[17:02] <SirLagz> Trian3: sure thing
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[17:04] <Trian3> ?!? It's working now! After this operation, 31.8 MB of additional disk space will be used.
[17:04] <Trian3> 740 ugrade, 420 newly installed, 14 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[17:04] <SirLagz> there we go
[17:05] <SirLagz> maybe stale apt cache ? who knows. As long as it works :P
[17:05] <Trian3> Should I be worried about...
[17:05] <Trian3> W: Failed to fetch http://raspberrypi.collabora.com/dists/jessie/rpi/binary-armhf/Pack ages 404 Not Found
[17:05] <Trian3> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
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[17:05] <Trian3> That was in the last apt-get update
[17:06] <SirLagz> Trian3: not sure what you have that's hosted on collabora...I wouldn't worry about it too much unless something you use stops working
[17:07] <Trian3> Beats me. The image on here currently is straight from RPF's website
[17:07] <SirLagz> eh, ignore it then
[17:07] <Trian3> Alright... hitting "y". :P
[17:07] <SirLagz> heh
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[17:08] <Trian3> Thanks for the help, Lagz
[17:08] <SirLagz> Trian3: no problems
[17:08] <Trian3> She's updating now
[17:08] <Trian3> Heard it takes a couple hours
[17:08] <Trian3> Be back in a while
[17:08] <SirLagz> Trian3: depends on your SD cards and whatnot
[17:08] <SirLagz> Trian3: mine took me ~40 minutes
[17:08] <Trian3> RPi2 / Type 10 SD card
[17:09] <SirLagz> Trian3: would probably be much faster than my 40 minutes then
[17:09] <Trian3> Ah, ok. Cool.
[17:09] <SirLagz> Trian3: also depends on your internet, since it's downloading a whole bunch of updates
[17:09] <Trian3> 478 Mb of archives. That won't take too long.
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[17:19] <AlephTwo> seriema: Can you work with tar.gz files?
[17:19] <seriema> AlephTwo: yepp
[17:20] <AlephTwo> k. creating the file. Will upload to somewhere or other
[17:20] <AlephTwo> you have any quick n dirty file-hosting sites?
[17:20] <seriema> yay
[17:20] <seriema> dropbox?
[17:20] <AlephTwo> don't want to create account to use
[17:21] <seriema> ah, how big is it?
[17:21] <seriema> https://sprend.com/ can handle up to 2gb
[17:21] <AlephTwo> dunno yet
[17:21] <Encrypt> Or...
[17:21] <Encrypt> Open your port 80, set NginX, drop the file in the web folder...
[17:21] <Encrypt> And you're done
[17:21] <Encrypt> :D
[17:21] <AlephTwo> yeah, no
[17:21] <seriema> lol
[17:21] <Encrypt> Eh eh :p
[17:22] <AlephTwo> I could upload it to my server & host from there, but nah
[17:22] <AlephTwo> I'll send you a mega link shortly
[17:23] <AlephTwo> You might want to find hosting for it for similar mac-users wanting to customise their setup
[17:23] <seriema> ok
[17:23] <seriema> yeah
[17:23] <seriema> I'll put it on my dropbox ;D
[17:23] <AlephTwo> I say shortly. 2 hours remaining...
[17:23] <seriema> https://www.wetransfer.com/ can handle 2gb
[17:23] <seriema> 10gb sry
[17:23] <AlephTwo> my upload sux anyhow
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[17:24] <seriema> ok
[17:24] <AlephTwo> it's only 670MB
[17:24] <seriema> aaah right
[17:24] <AlephTwo> Just 90kps
[17:24] <AlephTwo> KB/s even
[17:24] <seriema> did you do step 7 as well? that's the boot partition. step 3 was the retropie partition
[17:25] <seriema> wait, I could read the boot
[17:25] <AlephTwo> I copied everything across to two seperate folders then zipped them up
[17:25] <AlephTwo> So you have both in one package
[17:25] <seriema> ah ok great
[17:25] <AlephTwo> It will unzip to two folders. These are the roots of each partition
[17:25] <AlephTwo> ...eventually...
[17:26] <seriema> hehe
[17:26] <AlephTwo> There "may" be issues with permissions in the retropie_partition - I had to copy the stuff over as root
[17:26] <seriema> ah
[17:26] <AlephTwo> so some perms may be borked. We will see
[17:26] <seriema> well, can't wait for the fun then
[17:26] <AlephTwo> 1:52:00 remaining
[17:27] <seriema> I have to leave for dinner in 1h. I'll PM my email to you?
[17:27] <AlephTwo> kk
[17:27] <AlephTwo> or I could post the link here in a couple of hours, when it's uploaded
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[17:27] <seriema> yeah, I'll leave my computer on but if the network or something fails I won't see it
[17:28] <AlephTwo> k
[17:29] <seriema> otherwise just pm me the link and hopefully I'll see it. otherwise I'l bug you about it when I'm back :P
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[17:29] <AlephTwo> no worries
[17:29] <seriema> thx
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[17:33] <FlyingPersian> does anyone have a wireless USB keyboard that works with OSMC (RaspBMC)?
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[17:34] <FlyingPersian> I'm looking at the supported list, but also want to hear what ppl are saying here
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[17:39] <xamindar> FlyingPersian: is it not linux? if it is, just look at what works on linux
[17:39] <FlyingPersian> it's debian I think
[17:40] <FlyingPersian> not 100% if i need a keyboard though
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[18:14] <Andocromn> i've got an issue on one of my rpi images where its like the networking doesn't start on boot. if i manually bring up the interface it works fine though. anyone ever expirence this?
[18:15] <H__> Andocromn: i have that with wifi dongles, never with ethernet
[18:17] <Andocromn> i don't have any wifi, just trying to use the built in ethernet. the wierd thing is when i do ifconfig it doesn't even show the loopback
[18:19] <Kunsi> FlyingPersian: keyboard is nice for whenever you need to enter text (search or something). for me, i have an apple bluetooth keyboard connected
[18:19] <H__> odd. anything logged in syslog ?
[18:19] <FlyingPersian> yeah true, but I guess the android app is good enough for that, is it Kunsi ?
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[18:20] <Trian3> H__: I see the same thing w/ wifi dongles. Is there a workaround that you know of?
[18:21] <H__> I have not found any, other than the obvious replace with a cable ;-)
[18:21] <Kunsi> FlyingPersian: iOS app never satisfied me
[18:21] <FlyingPersian> hm okay
[18:21] <Trian3> Thought as much. :(
[18:21] <FlyingPersian> I wish I had a xbmc already, then I could try out the app+
[18:21] <Kunsi> just install it on windows/mac, whatever you have
[18:21] <ShorTie> what does 'ls /etc/rc*.d | grep net' say
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[18:22] <Kunsi> also, it's named kodi now
[18:22] <Andocromn> Trian3: i feel like i saw a fix for the wifi while searching on google last night
[18:22] <FlyingPersian> true :D
[18:22] <FlyingPersian> my bad
[18:23] <Andocromn> Trian3: i think this was the link i was thinking of, not sure if it helps http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/3852/start-wireless-network-automatically-on-boot-up-how-to
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[18:26] <Trian3> I'll take a look. Thx, Ando
[18:27] <Trian3> The problem isn't that wireless doesn't work on boot. It does.
[18:28] <Trian3> The problem is that I'm unable to remote in from outside the network after my pi has been idle for a certain length of time.
[18:28] <Trian3> Reboot and it's ok again.
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[18:31] <Andocromn> specificaly from outside network? like on the same local lan and it works?
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[18:32] <Trian3> Correct
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[18:37] <frib> can anyone recommend a decent video player for raspbian?
[18:38] <frib> im using omxplayer atm and it's pretty awful. is xbmc better?
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[18:38] <FlyingPersian> the app is nice Kunsi
[18:38] <FlyingPersian> but I need a keyboard to set the app up -.-
[18:38] <FlyingPersian> or is a mouse sufficient?
[18:39] <AlephTwo> I have xmbc on mine. Works a treat
[18:39] <FlyingPersian> does the mouse work?
[18:39] <FlyingPersian> USB mouse
[18:39] <AlephTwo> Dunno. I connect with webapp. I think it did when setting up though.
[18:40] <AlephTwo> https://osmc.tv/ This is the new raspbmc
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[18:40] <AlephTwo> ...just found it
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[18:44] <frib> how can i install different front ends for omxplayer?
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[18:48] <Trian3> Ok, just finished updating to jessie. Got a few failures. https://paste.debian.net/190990/
[18:48] <Trian3> Should I be concerned?
[18:49] <ShorTie> i would, but not much you can but wait a hafe hour or so and try again
[18:50] <ShorTie> start over at update
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[18:58] <Froolap> might try using a different mirror
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[18:59] <Froolap> or refreshing apt-cache..... might be the cache is holding stale data
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[19:00] <ShorTie> server might be updating, that is why i say wait afew
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[19:01] <Trian3> I did that earlier to get the dist-upgrade to start
[19:02] <Trian3> How do I use a different mirror for jessie?
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[19:04] <Froolap> Trian3: might want to look at this.... http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=63281
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