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IRC Log for 2015-06-04

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[0:00] <Berg> it says cant find in repo?
[0:00] <Berg> do i need sudo apt-get?
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[0:01] <ShorTie> you need the Walmart card plugged in for it too work if i remember right
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[0:02] <Berg> i have a mcdonalds card
[0:02] <Berg> its got mickey mouse faCE on it
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[0:03] <Berg> i have to buy lots hardwear to make my pi read battery bank voltage
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[0:03] <ShorTie> those only work for pointers
[0:03] <Berg> ok fine ill goto wallmart ... i need a cab from australia to newyork
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[0:06] <ShorTie> what, no yellow submarine ??
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[0:08] <Berg> that sank with the titanic so many years ago
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[0:15] <Berg> is there a raspberry pi recipe web site?
[0:16] <ShorTie> google.com
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[0:16] <ShorTie> Mr.Google knows all
[0:16] <Berg> yeah been looking
[0:16] <Berg> thought folks might have a favorite
[0:18] <Berg> they all want me to pay 30 bucks for dummies by pi
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[0:19] <ShorTie> what cha l00kin for ??
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[0:22] <Berg> well im looking to add voltage monitoring to my battery banks
[0:22] <ShorTie> ok, need a adc
[0:22] <Berg> they have modules that reduce the power / 5 so 15volts is output at 3
[0:23] <Berg> adc
[0:23] <Berg> but then you need to change that oputput to digital
[0:23] <Berg> its learning i started without a clkue
[0:23] <Berg> clue
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[0:23] <ShorTie> wiringPi has example in gertboard
[0:24] <Berg> ok
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[0:27] <Berg> complex
[0:28] <Froolap> Yeah, I have a complex.
[0:30] <ShorTie> what kind of voltage are you trying to measure ??
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[0:33] <Berg> 12v battery bank max voltage 14.5
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[0:34] <Berg> i think i have to buy a gertboard
[0:34] <Berg> thats will solve future issues too i think
[0:34] <ShorTie> just need a adc
[0:34] <ShorTie> like mcp3008
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[0:44] * Berg thinks about bread boards and blue smoke and fun inn the shed
[0:44] <Berg> i have to get some chip off my shoulder
[0:44] <Berg> realy interesting info
[0:45] <Berg> http://img-asia.electrocomponents.com/largeimages/R8418462-01.jpg im gona buy my own sheldon
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[0:55] <Froolap> ????
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[0:59] <Froolap> 13 hours of dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb1
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[1:03] <[Saint]> Froolap: did you screw up the block sizing?
[1:04] <Froolap> I didn't specify.
[1:04] <[Saint]> Ah...
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[1:04] <[Saint]> How large is the volume?
[1:04] <Froolap> that was the entire command
[1:04] <Froolap> writing to 230 gig
[1:04] <[Saint]> Even if it is multiple terrabytes, that's excessive.
[1:04] <[Saint]> Something's fishy.
[1:05] <Froolap> I tried sending that at /dev/sdb but it wrote 480 megs and quit with device full.
[1:05] <Encapsulation> might want to check on the status of it Froolap
[1:05] <Froolap> how?
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[1:05] <Encapsulation> http://linuxcommando.blogspot.com/2008/06/show-progress-during-dd-copy.html
[1:05] <[Saint]> ...don't use dd, basically.
[1:05] <Encapsulation> basically you find dd process
[1:05] <Encapsulation> kill -USR1 pid
[1:06] <Encapsulation> it will report status and continue
[1:06] <[Saint]> nuts to that, there's a dd clone with progress.
[1:07] <[Saint]> dcfldd
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[1:08] <Encapsulation> I did try thta but didnt like it as much
[1:08] <Encapsulation> ps aux|grep dd; kill -USR1 pidhere isnt bad
[1:08] <Froolap> 87757215232 bytes (88 GB) copied, 47174.3 s, 1.9 MB/s
[1:08] <[Saint]> why is that so horrendously slow?
[1:08] <[Saint]> ...you're doing this _on_ the pi?
[1:09] <Berg> that is slow
[1:09] <[Saint]> you're gonna be there for days hun.
[1:09] <Berg> !lobby ding
[1:10] <Berg> opps
[1:10] <Berg> usb is shared with lan
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[1:14] <Froolap> yeah, I was runnong that on the pi2b
[1:14] <Froolap> lan isn't really doing anything
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[1:19] <[Saint]> Uuuugh.
[1:20] <[Saint]> You haven't lived until you've had ~12kg of soaking wet fluffy kitty jump on your desk and shake off.
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[1:20] <[Saint]> We've had ~2 months of rain...overnight.
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[1:32] <Froolap> cool, thanks for the info on dd
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[1:37] <dyce> i have a quick question about solar, would it make any sense to use qualcomm quick charger? or is it the same as charging a 12v large battery
[1:37] <dyce> or no real benefit
[1:38] <dyce> http://www.amazon.com/Aukey-10000mAh-Portable-External-Supported/dp/B00UBDI7EC
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[2:14] <Captain_Crow> are there any cheap pi lcd touchscreens with an official installer script that i can just run w/o having to mess with things?
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[2:18] <kookie> www.adafruit.com has quite a few of them.. pick which one you would like then go to www.amazon.com and order one.
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[2:26] <Captain_Crow> do the adafruit scripts work with other oses, or do they require installing a custom os?
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[2:30] <kookie> there should be no problem loading the scripts, usually a reboot loads the drivers in it..
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[2:32] <Bhaal> asey: You about?
[2:32] <Bhaal> Or anyone :)
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[2:32] <Bhaal> I tried compiling a new kernel for my Pi2 but when I go to install I get this:
[2:32] <Bhaal> Ignoring old or unknown version 3.18.14+ (latest is 3.18.0-23-rpi2)
[2:33] <Bhaal> Not sure why :/
[2:33] <kookie> well.. it's tricky installing just the kernels... I don't mess with that stuff... I just do apt-get update...
[2:34] <Bhaal> kookie: I would to, but 3.18.0-23 is the lastest arm kernel from Ubuntu
[2:34] <[Saint]> there's rarely ever any real need to update the kernel.
[2:34] <[Saint]> unless you need to support a specific item of hardware.
[2:35] <[Saint]> updating just for the sake of updating is rarely required.
[2:35] * McAFK is now known as McBride36
[2:35] <[Saint]> just sayin'.
[2:35] <Bhaal> [Saint]: I am trying to redirect the onboard LEDs to front panel LEDs in a chassis I am using, the ubuntu kernel doesn't support it
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[2:35] <Bhaal> [Saint]: Otherwise I wouldn't bother upgrading as the machine is running fine...
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[2:36] <Bhaal> But as the finishing touch to my project I want to make this work..
[2:36] <Froolap> use fiber optic, then you don't need kernel support
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[2:38] <Bhaal> Froolap: That's an alternate solution which I am not interested in pursuing..
[2:38] <kookie> cool idea, Froolap
[2:38] <[Saint]> its what basically every PC case ever does.
[2:39] <[Saint]> and a whole slew of pi cases.
[2:39] <Bhaal> The chassis I have already has all the LEDs in the front panel and the provision in the newer kernels is there to make it work...
[2:39] <[Saint]> "light pipes"
[2:39] <Bhaal> This is not a Pi case
[2:39] <[Saint]> that's nice.
[2:39] <Bhaal> It's the 1RU chassis from a Sun Netra X1
[2:40] <Bhaal> So I assume, you cannot answer my original question then [Saint] ? :)
[2:40] <[Saint]> I wasn't aware I was attempting to.
[2:42] <Bhaal> Well thanks for your time anyway
[2:42] <Bhaal> Anyone else able to help?
[2:43] <kookie> best one to ask is Two_Dogs in the mint channels, he knows a lot about kernels...
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[2:52] <Bhaal> kookie: Alright, just trying a few things back here, will go and ask if I cannot get this to work...
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[2:53] <kookie> ok.. good luck... just keep asking around until you run into the correct person that knows what you are attempting to do..
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[2:57] <Bhaal> Aye, trying the instructions from the Pi website rather than eLinux now... Should have done that first...
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[3:02] <[Saint]> Its a tossup.
[3:02] <[Saint]> In many cases I would prefer elinux's docs personally.
[3:02] <[Saint]> (and RPF seems to, too, noting the supreme lack of such things)
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[3:07] <Bhaal> Mmmm, well either way, on this occasion the eLinux build doc failed me, So will try the other method... Hopefully will get some results...
[3:07] <ShorTie> what is so hard about building a kernel ??
[3:07] <Bhaal> ShorTie: Nothing, it built fine
[3:07] <ShorTie> it's just 'make && make modules_install'
[3:07] <Bhaal> But wouldn't install
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[3:07] <Bhaal> But there RPF docs had an extra thing in that the eLinux didn't ... So, trying again *shrug*
[3:08] <[Saint]> Then there's also "compiles != functional"
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[3:08] <ShorTie> != functional is configuration errors
[3:08] <Bhaal> It's not time critical, it's a project, and I am throwing all 4 cores at the compile so it should probably only take about 5hrs or so
[3:08] <[Saint]> ShorTie: that's hilariously naive
[3:09] <[Saint]> No files have _ever_ been broken in bleeding edge kernels...like..ever, right.
[3:09] <ShorTie> kernel needs patching for a rpi2 i believe
[3:09] <Sonny_Jim> Bah
[3:09] <Sonny_Jim> My ntpd seems to drift of upwards of 15 minutes
[3:09] <Bhaal> ShorTie: I cloned the git repo
[3:11] <ShorTie> why not just use rpi-update then ??
[3:11] <[Saint]> cute
[3:11] <Bhaal> What's annoying me is that I rpi-update isn't updating the kernel under ubuntu... I guess for whatever reason it's not meant to... But I am pretty sure it did for raspbian
[3:13] <Bhaal> I used "Ubuntu Mate" because that's whats listed on the website, but I have since found someone at Ubuntu has released a beta image...
[3:14] <Bhaal> Though I probably won't use that as I have a working system (aside from the finishing touch mentioned above)
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[3:22] <kookie> well you, shortie, and saint are way beyond me... I just know how to turn the thing on and use it.. lol
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[3:23] <ShorTie> grab an old pc and install Gentoo on it
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[3:23] <ShorTie> you'll learn alot
[3:24] <ShorTie> i'd say use a pi
[3:24] <kookie> I have 6 of them
[3:24] <kookie> and a BBB
[3:24] <ShorTie> but i think you would want it done by the end of the year, lol.
[3:24] <kookie> but for me to code, forget it...
[3:25] <kookie> I'm not a coder... although I wish I could...
[3:26] <ShorTie> don't have to be a coder to learn
[3:27] <[Saint]> kookie: no coders were born being coders either.
[3:27] <kookie> I have uno and quickstarts, downloaded their apps to flash their chips but for me to code, forget it... I can use someone's code and manipulate it a little before it don't work, lol
[3:27] <[Saint]> No one was born with any knowledge.
[3:27] <kookie> true
[3:27] <[Saint]> You're able to learn just as anyone else did.
[3:27] <kookie> if I put my mind to it
[3:27] <[Saint]> Precisely.
[3:28] <kookie> but my problem is that I don't... sheesh...
[3:28] <[Saint]> A big part of it is getting over the fear of it being difficult.
[3:28] <kookie> yes
[3:28] <[Saint]> Its not difficult, just different.
[3:28] <[Saint]> Like any other language.
[3:28] <kookie> I have a few python books..
[3:28] <Encapsulation> kookie, you can code
[3:28] <ShorTie> ya, it always 'don't work' right before it does with enough play
[3:29] <kookie> and almost every issue of Raspberry pi Geek mags
[3:29] <kookie> love those mags
[3:29] <[Saint]> There's things like Scratch et al, designed to make discovery as painless and fun as possible.
[3:29] <[Saint]> Hell...6~7yo kids are doing this.
[3:29] <kookie> yes I'll have to start with that..
[3:30] <kookie> then get a hang of what each thing does.
[3:30] <kookie> I just got a pi B-2... wow is that fast
[3:31] <kookie> so much nicer
[3:31] <[Saint]> compared to the A/B, yes.
[3:31] <[Saint]> well...~
[3:31] <[Saint]> Faster cores, same old terrible restrictions in the other places though.
[3:31] <kookie> got it from a friend of mine and he got me hooked, lol
[3:31] <kookie> yes I see that
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[3:32] <kookie> but that's ok, it's for hobbiests...
[3:33] <kookie> but, for the sake of the pi's, that is what got me into Linux, period.. and thanks to Eben for making these pi's which caught my eye...
[3:34] <kookie> so now almost all my computers are Linux. and I love mint mate qiana. so smooth...
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[3:36] <kookie> all because the pi caught my eye.. wow.. at first I was kinda scared because it is a linux OS, the Raspbian, so it took me a while to realize it was just another OS only different from windows
[3:37] <kookie> now I am on 2nd anniversary of owning pi's.. yay.... and 6 of them.. whoa... lol
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[3:41] <pnwise> <kookie> What are you doing with 6 of them?
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[3:43] <Xeon3D> I just got mine today, haven't even booted it.
[3:43] <kookie> just play with them.. I have a piface on one, Uno on another one, and two quickstarts on others
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[3:44] <kookie> just a hobby of creating stuff on breadboards and making those circuits work.
[3:45] <kookie> I would love to get one of those Pi-Tops.. but they are only from the UK and are expensive
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[3:45] <pnwise> I just recieved my first, and I intalled arch because still waiting for couple of SD carts
[3:46] <pnwise> Anyone does some bare metal on rpi 2?
[3:46] <kookie> music?
[3:48] <ShorTie> Pi-Tops are for peeps that got alot of money to burn, if you want a laptop, buy a laptop then
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[3:48] <kookie> lol, i have like 5 of them...
[3:50] <Xeon3D> I'm writing raspbian to the SD
[3:50] <kookie> Dell Vostro, Acer mini, Acer 17", Dell B120, Dell 1505...
[3:50] <kookie> cool
[3:50] <Xeon3D> and when I get some more monies gonna get the LCD top and the GSM one. :)
[3:50] <kookie> nice
[3:50] <kookie> then you'll have some real fun...
[3:51] <Xeon3D> I'm gonna go for the pi-phone project :D
[3:52] <kookie> cool
[3:53] <methuzla> pnwise http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/projects/raspberrypi/tutorials/os/
[3:53] <kookie> I want to do the pi radio project..
[3:53] <kookie> I know ppl who are using the new pi B-2 for their Ham radios...
[3:54] <kookie> which is pretty awesome..
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[3:57] <kookie> cool, I bookmarked that link, methuzla... ty
[3:59] <pnwise> methuzla Thanks. I already found a guy on Github. Have you done something?
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[4:00] <methuzla> pnwise no, but have that bookmarked for if/when i want to
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[4:01] <Encapsulation> kookie, what are they doing with the pi 2 and their radio
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[4:02] <kookie> the ham radio operators?
[4:02] <Encapsulation> yes
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[4:03] <kookie> I really don't know, but you can ask shantorn in the mint channels, he has done it to his ham radio...
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[4:05] <kookie> and niston knows a lot about them.. he's in here...
[4:05] <Encapsulation> hes traveling the world right now or something
[4:06] <kookie> oh my... wow
[4:06] <Encapsulation> well hes away somehwere
[4:06] <Encapsulation> what are the mint channels
[4:06] <kookie> I know a while back he wanted to move to UK...
[4:07] <kookie> irc.spotchat.org, in #linux-mint channel
[4:07] <Encapsulation> ty
[4:08] <kookie> and #linuxmint-help, not the one above, sorry
[4:08] <kookie> it's #linuxmint-chat
[4:08] <kookie> sorry about that
[4:09] <kookie> but his nick is shantorn
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[4:10] <Encapsulation> I'll scope it out
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[4:11] <kookie> ok.. just don't use offensive lang in there... IRC cops are all over those two channels...
[4:13] * Berg runs a channel with laws that hurt
[4:13] <Bhaal> Wowsers! How quickly does the Pi2 compile a kernel?! It's finished already
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[4:14] <Berg> no gum under the chairs
[4:14] <kookie> congrats
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[4:18] <Bhaal> kookie: only 6? :)
[4:19] <Bhaal> Ahh, actually, that's all I have at the moment as well
[4:19] <Bhaal> thought I had more inside the house but alas, only 2...
[4:20] <Bhaal> The rest are braving the elements up on the roof
[4:20] <Captain_Crow> is the raspberrypi site down?
[4:20] <pmumble> retropie just helped me remember how hardcore bards tale 1 really is. they dont make games like that anymore.
[4:20] <kookie> well, Bhaal, I have the following models: A, 3 B, B+, and B-2
[4:21] <Berg> you have pi's in the sky...or on the roof Bhaal how do you insulate from elements?
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[4:21] <Berg> try warzone2100
[4:22] <methuzla> Captain_Crow works for me
[4:22] <Bhaal> kookie: Oh, I only have B's B+'s and B2's Actually, I have 8, I forgot about 2 which are cctv cameras...
[4:22] <Berg> rich
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[4:23] <Bhaal> Berg: 3 of the for are 7ft above the roof on a mast in aluminium cctv cylinders...
[4:23] <Berg> ooo!
[4:23] <kookie> cool
[4:23] <Berg> lots of silocon gum?
[4:23] <kookie> that's nice collection
[4:23] <Berg> i have 1
[4:24] * Berg flexes his one-ness
[4:24] <Bhaal> Berg: And one is just in a one of those sealed box thingos like this http://www.jaycar.com.au/Enclosures-%26-Panel-Hardware/Plastic-Boxes/Polycarbonate-Sealed/Polycarbonate-Enclosure-with-Mounting-Flange---171%28W%29-x-121%28D%29-x-55%28H%29mm/p/HB6219
[4:25] <Berg> you in ozz Bhaal
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[4:25] <Bhaal> Berg: Lots of silicone? None, They are old CCTV cameras... I can *just* squeeze the Pi's into the enclosures...
[4:25] <Berg> WOULD IT HEAT UP?
[4:25] <Bhaal> Berg: yeah
[4:25] <Berg> ME 2
[4:26] <Bhaal> Berg: They've survived 47'C ambient temps in direct sunlight no problems...
[4:26] <Berg> right
[4:26] <Berg> you got a tin roof?
[4:26] <Berg> mines tin
[4:26] <Bhaal> tiled...
[4:26] <Berg> ha cooler
[4:26] <Bhaal> But they are 7ft in the air
[4:26] <Berg> yeah
[4:27] <kookie> hey that's a cool case.. nice
[4:27] <Bhaal> http://www.weathercamnetwork.com.au/kallangur.html
[4:27] <Bhaal> Berg: That's what they do...
[4:27] <Berg> i have that shop on my standby
[4:27] <Berg> ha cool
[4:27] <Berg> im doing solar and wind stuff
[4:28] <Berg> still learning
[4:28] <Berg> http://gallery.anotherpower.com/main.php/v/bergs+place/?g2_GALLERYSID=ffc6d9d551841a13af20bff3f94f1345
[4:28] <Berg> just images no story
[4:28] <Bhaal> The other Pi on the roof in that ploycarb case is my dump1090 Pi...
[4:28] <Captain_Crow> raspberrypi.org is just showing a blank page for me
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[4:29] <Berg> looks li8ke its working for me Captain_Crow
[4:29] <Bhaal> Captain_Crow: Works for me
[4:30] <pmumble> cache issues?
[4:30] <Berg> i have me pi operating 240v chargers in the day from my free solar power into battery banks
[4:30] <Bhaal> Berg: Ahhh I do plan on doing more with my Pi's I have one recording data for my weather station and posting it to the various weather sites, it also pulls the data from my PV inverter
[4:30] <Berg> refrtesh the page
[4:31] <Berg> \you weather station have analogue temp to digital?
[4:31] <Berg> i need to get volts to me pi to monitor batteryies
[4:32] <Berg> where you buy you pi's from Bhaal
[4:32] <kookie> ok, I got both those links bookmarked, ty
[4:32] <kookie> I buy mine from www.amazon.com
[4:33] <Bhaal> Nah it's just one of the cheap statiosn from jaycar, base station has a usb interface... But I have put together a bunch of stuff to receive the data directly over 433Mhz from the outdoor transmitter
[4:33] <Bhaal> Berg: I buy mine of E14 usually...
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[4:33] <Berg> ha rs is cheaper
[4:33] <Berg> one sec
[4:34] <Berg> e14 is rip oiff
[4:34] <Bhaal> I buy from RS when I need just one and they have them in stock
[4:34] <Berg> au.rs-online.com
[4:34] <Bhaal> so I don't need to pay delivery
[4:34] <Berg> yeah stock is always low
[4:35] <Bhaal> When I buy its usually for an immediate use, so I want them as quickly as possible
[4:36] <Berg> thats what stops mke from buying stuff i think maybe i can find one to get sooner
[4:36] <Berg> i never can
[4:37] <Berg> instant gratification rules
[4:37] <Captain_Crow> the site finally loaded
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[4:45] <kookie> here's what I got a few weeks ago... http://www.amazon.com/CanaKit-Raspberry-Complete-Original-Preloaded/dp/B008XVAVAW/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1433385831&sr=1-2&keywords=raspberry+pi+2
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[4:46] <Berg> good value
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[4:47] <kookie> yes, and the board is made in the UK.. surprised myself
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[4:49] <kookie> boy is it fast compared to the B board
[4:49] <kookie> way faster
[4:49] <Berg> :)
[4:49] <Bhaal> yay ... 3.18.14 is booting
[4:49] <Berg> i have that one also
[4:49] <kookie> cool
[4:50] <Berg> my boots in about 20seconds flat
[4:50] <Berg> i dont have much happening just run a few python scripts
[4:51] <kookie> nice
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[4:52] <giddles> ehm
[4:52] <Bhaal> Yeah the Pi2 are really good, considering I compiled a whole kernel in just a couple of hours as opposed to the 12-24hrs I've seen people mention for the older board...
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[4:52] <giddles> even my rpi2 runs in standard mode @ raspi config
[4:52] <giddles> is that okey dokey?
[4:52] <kookie> my mini Acer lappy has SSD and ubuntu 15.04 and boots in about that time and shuts down in less than 2
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[5:09] <pmumble> anyone know how to use meta commands on retropie amiga emulator? cant figure out how to reboot it or get to config screen
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[5:17] <Captain_Crow> is NOOBS the only installer that enables oses to be installed from the pi itself?
[5:18] <kookie> no, you can install individual ones from the pi site
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[5:20] <kookie> you go to www.raspberrypi.org and look in the downloads and chose which one you like then it will install in pi's SD card
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[5:28] <Captain_Crow> whats the purpose of the noobs installer then?
[5:28] <pmumble> a way to easily get a tour of whats available? :)
[5:28] <kookie> for ppl who make many mistakes and can recover the os if needed
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[5:30] <kookie> the NOOBS SD card has a recovery partition on it and is not altered by the chosen installed OS.
[5:30] <Froolap> The purpose behind noobs is for people who just can't figure out how to use win32discimager. lol
[5:31] <kookie> so, if the OS that was installed is not working correctly, you can hold down shift key while booting and it will take you back to NOOBS to rechose any OS on it
[5:32] * pmumble would never use win-anything and doesnt use noobs.
[5:32] <pmumble> :p
[5:32] <kookie> it's kinda like a backup of the pi's original bare OS's
[5:32] <Froolap> oh yes you do to so.
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[5:35] <pmumble> no windows machines allowed in the house
[5:36] <Froolap> you probably have it hiding on your phone. shhhhh i won't tell
[5:36] <pmumble> lol
[5:36] <pmumble> actually it's hiding under the couch, there is a battered old laptop. i lied.
[5:36] <Froolap> well, as long as it's battered
[5:38] <Froolap> well, now that I have destroyed 4 hard drives, I'm happy.
[5:38] <pmumble> whoa
[5:38] <Froolap> ran dd across them and then took the platters out.
[5:40] <kookie> did you use them for xmas tree ornaments?
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[5:40] <Froolap> nope, wind chimes
[5:40] <kookie> cool
[5:40] <kookie> that wud scratch them up good enuf
[5:41] <Froolap> won't matter after I took the drill press to them so they make different notes
[5:42] <kookie> lol... gud for u...
[5:43] <kookie> I know ppl make them outta DVDs and CDs...
[5:43] <Froolap> yup
[5:43] <Froolap> I would rather make a clock out of a cd or dvd though.
[5:44] <Froolap> just glue the numbers on them and mount a battery powered clock on the hub. the way the light prisims off of the clock face is interesting.
[5:44] <kookie> one time a guy lived in a town street corner and hung up a whole bunch of windows XP DVDs on his corner tree and police had to order him to remove them due to a lot of auto wrecks it caused...
[5:45] <kookie> cool
[5:45] <kookie> nice idea
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[5:47] <kookie> ok I have to go nitie nite nite.. see you ppl tomorrow....
[5:47] <Froolap> have a nice nap.
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[5:48] <kookie> thanks... ;-)
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[5:59] <shadeslayer> hi, could someone post their config that they use to build https://github.com/anholt/linux/tree/vc4-kms-v3d
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[6:16] <Froolap> shadeslayer: what are you asking for?
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[6:29] <shadeslayer> Froolap: the config file for that github repo
[6:29] <Froolap> what about it?
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[6:33] <Froolap> isn't that included in the repo
[6:34] <shadeslayer> Froolap: I don't see it
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[6:41] <Berg> https://github.com/anholt/linux/blob/vc4-kms-v3d/Kconfig
[6:42] <Froolap> Using the option "make O=output/dir" allow you to specify an alternate
[6:42] <Froolap> place for the output files (including .config).
[6:42] <[Saint]> Are you certain there's no make_config option or a Kconfig sitting around?
[6:43] <[Saint]> Aha - I should read, Berg found it hun.
[6:43] <Berg> :)
[6:43] <Berg> its there
[6:43] <[Saint]> I should've looked, and/or scrolled down to see your response.
[6:43] <[Saint]> Thanks bud.
[6:43] <[Saint]> Lets hope shadeslayer sees this in a timely fashion.
[6:44] * Berg makes happy grunting noises as he goes back to cake eating
[6:44] <shadeslayer> er
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[6:45] <Berg> i was reading the readme in the git repo
[6:45] <Berg> might help to read it too
[6:45] <shadeslayer> I did
[6:45] <[Saint]> reading a README?
[6:45] <shadeslayer> moment
[6:45] <[Saint]> I am both shocked and dismayed, good Sir.
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[6:46] <shadeslayer> so I was reading https://wiki.freedesktop.org/dri/VC4/
[6:46] <tawr> dis maymayed
[6:46] <tawr> in the dankest of ways
[6:46] <shadeslayer> and it has a section "Building the kernel"
[6:46] <Berg> i know its not a natural thing to do
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[6:46] <[Saint]> *tips raspberry coloured fedora
[6:46] <shadeslayer> ran make CROSS_COMPILE=/usr/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf- ARCH=arm bcm2835_defconfig
[6:47] <[Saint]> M'raspberry
[6:47] <shadeslayer> but then I can't enable options like CONFIG_DRM_VC4
[6:47] <Berg> dont ya have to define how many cpu's it has?
[6:47] <shadeslayer> since it has a bazillio reverse deps
[6:47] <Berg> or is that already done some place?
[6:47] <shadeslayer> since there's no dep resolution
[6:48] <Berg> we need blueberry
[6:48] <Berg> blue ius my bestest colour
[6:48] <[Saint]> You spelled colour right!
[6:49] <[Saint]> ...I think I love you.
[6:49] <Berg> i know
[6:49] <Berg> im human
[6:49] <Froolap> why don't they make grape flavored cake?
[6:49] <[Saint]> Apparently Americans aren't, then.
[6:49] <Berg> well this is a known fact
[6:49] <[Saint]> Heh.
[6:49] <Berg> its something to do with the lack of a good cuppa
[6:49] <[Saint]> UK or Australiasia, out of interest.
[6:50] <Berg> dingo tribe
[6:50] <[Saint]> UK, pretty much just solved that riddle.
[6:50] <[Saint]> Oh. Hmmm. 'cuppa' threw me.
[6:50] <Froolap> shed you will
[6:50] <Berg> why
[6:50] <[Saint]> I guess I am duty bound to shake a fist at you and remind you that you stole pavlova then.
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[6:50] <Berg> you think you have a monopoly on a cuppa
[6:51] <[Saint]> ...and 99% of our flag.
[6:51] <[Saint]> <fist shake>
[6:51] <Froolap> next thursday we are shed you willed to have lunch with the professor.
[6:51] <[Saint]> And so it is done.
[6:51] <Berg> we only use it as a 1/4 of our flag
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[6:51] <[Saint]> Berg: I'm in NZ.
[6:51] <[Saint]> You just added a star to ours. ;))
[6:51] <Berg> rubbish i thought yuou was a pom
[6:52] <Berg> \sorry my error your almost human
[6:52] <[Saint]> Hence the fist shaking and pavlova theft talk.
[6:52] <Berg> north or south island?
[6:52] <[Saint]> South, Christchurch specifically.
[6:52] <Berg> ha i have a friend on north island
[6:53] <[Saint]> Jim? Yeah. I know 'em.
[6:53] <Berg> is it wellington or some bay close by
[6:53] <[Saint]> Or Wal? Good guy Wal.
[6:53] <Berg> jim is his name
[6:53] <[Saint]> There's only like 5 people that live here, I probably know 'em.
[6:53] <Berg> or james
[6:53] <[Saint]> Wow, that was mildly creepy then...
[6:54] <Berg> its mildly true too
[6:54] <Berg> he is in the warzone2100 channel most days
[6:54] <Berg> he's there now
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[6:55] <Berg> you like sheep?
[6:55] * Berg snickers
[6:55] <Froolap> now what do you do?
[6:55] <[Saint]> For their wool and meat, ...the other rumors however may be exaggerated.
[6:56] <Berg> maybe
[6:56] <[Saint]> heh
[6:56] <Froolap> ha ha out of all them sjeep you had to pick the ugliest one.
[6:56] <Berg> my first girlfriend was named BBAaarrrrBrraaa
[6:57] <Berg> :)
[6:58] <Berg> in NZ they have sheep with back legs longer then front so they can stand on the side of hills
[6:58] <Berg> :)
[6:59] <Froolap> is that what thoses were for? I thought that they were handles
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[7:24] <Berg> :)
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[8:02] <Bhaal> schuc: It's all your fault!
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[8:02] <Bhaal> schuc: The SD card in my weather pi finally packed it in
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[8:06] <fred1807> how do I install this?? https://github.com/ceph/obsync
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[8:10] <ShorTie> see on the right side the table with a arrow ??
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[8:11] <ShorTie> click on it, it will highlight it, right click to copy
[8:11] <ShorTie> then on pi go 'git clone https://github.com/ceph/obsync'
[8:12] <ShorTie> that will download it into a directoy of obsync
[8:14] <fred1807> I did it
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[8:14] <fred1807> but how do I "compile/make" this?
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[8:15] <ShorTie> since it python and no Makefile, sorry, i have no idea
[8:15] <ShorTie> sure it is not just sumfin you run ??
[8:16] <ShorTie> as like a script
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[8:19] <ShorTie> since it starts out with '#!/usr/bin/env python'
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[8:20] <ShorTie> so it be like './obsync' to run it
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[8:22] <fred1807> got some errors msgs and thats al...
[8:22] <fred1807> maybe it is no completed yet
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[8:24] <ShorTie> hard to say without seeing them
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[8:32] <Berg> the readme on that repo is pretty sad
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[10:30] <Froolap> cool
[10:31] <ShorTie> warm
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[10:38] <Froolap> did you have a wibble?
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[10:40] <ShorTie> nop, had a wobble
[10:40] <ShorTie> but didn't fall down
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[10:44] <Goldy> Showing your age ShorTie?
[10:45] <Froolap> now all I need to do is get a ftp server set up and running.
[10:46] <Triffid_Hunter> woah, people still use ftp?
[10:46] <Froolap> then I can actually make my pi useful.
[10:46] <ShorTie> and/or my bad knee's
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[10:46] <Froolap> you mean they upgraded ftp?
[10:47] <Kunsi> Froolap: use sftp (scp)
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[10:47] <Triffid_Hunter> I use scp or samba for moving files over the network
[10:47] <Kunsi> samba--
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[10:48] <Froolap> I tried scp once, it ended up writing a file on the remote machine as root...... when I wasn't logged in as root.
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[10:49] <Froolap> well what happens if you want to move files to someone in ohio?
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[10:51] <Kunsi> scp!
[10:52] <Froolap> Oh really? I can use scp to force write files to anyone?
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[10:56] <Kunsi> if you have ssh access to their computer, yes
[10:56] <Triffid_Hunter> Froolap: scp allows you to write anything you'd be able to when sshed in
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[10:59] <Froolap> That's kind of my point. It requires a bit of technicl knowledge on both sides and cooperatisomeone has to run the server...... probably the person on the other end.........
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[11:35] <Darkwell> hey there
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[11:38] <Darkwell> i am having probs w controlling audio volume .. running mpd and mpc confed mpd to use pulseaudio as output and use sowtware mixer.... but still no luck regulating volume in alsamixer on pulseaudio... am i missing something ?
[11:45] <Berg> als and pulse have conflicts from what i seen
[11:46] <Berg> \try using on ly alsa
[11:46] <Berg> use the gnome mixer
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[11:46] <Berg> or use the gnome mixer with pulse
[11:47] <Bhaal> Ok, who here is a systemd expert?
[11:47] <Berg> not me
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[11:50] <Bhaal> Berg: The same time as you I suspect
[11:50] <Berg> yes
[11:50] <Berg> curious
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[11:57] <Bhaal> Ok, solved my systemd issue
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[11:59] <Bhaal> I wanted the power light I'd connected via gpio to turn off AFTER the Pi2 had unmounted it's raid mirror
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[11:59] <Bhaal> Which it does, so I definitely will know when I can power down the unit...
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[13:28] <MY123> Irony, Qupzilla for Windows RT works better with Wine than native Qupzilla
[13:28] <MY123> I wonder why...
[13:28] <MY123> [Qupzilla for RT even only uses interpreted JS, not even JIT...]
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[14:05] <Darkwell> Btw im not using X11 ITS hedaless so gnomemixer is no way... also amixer with also makes no sense... since I cant set the volume in a sane way.... works ok in alsamixer... byt alsamixer doesnt allow me to set volume in scrpts such as amixer...
[14:07] <Darkwell> Amixer acts sane with pulseaudiio but mpd seems not respect the pulse audio output in its config..
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[14:25] <Darkwell> Ok solved the problem by setting PULSEAUDIO_SYSTEM_START=1 in /etc/default/pulseaudio
[14:27] <Darkwell> just getting a bit prob w the sound crackling playing streamed audio...
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[14:27] <Darkwell> Thought pulseaudio was supposed to solve that ...plus having a saner amixer way to set volumes...
[14:30] <ozzzy_> pulseaudio is a blot on the linux landscape
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[14:31] <Darkwell> So it seems pretty broken using alsa to set volumes on amixer.....
[14:31] <Darkwell> But it doesnt crackle...
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[14:59] <Encapsulation> why is operator overloading so convoluted
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[15:02] <Goldy> maybe i misunderstand, but its pretty straight forward i though
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[15:08] <Darkwell> amixer accesses pulseaudio per default if its installed...
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[15:08] <Darkwell> and if you try amixer cset ... on the pcm the values to srt tje volume is not sane...
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[15:14] <osxyer> hey there, is it possible for me to do a NAS with a rp1 and a connected external hard drive ?
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[15:16] <ozzzy_> osxyer, why not
[15:16] <osxyer> because when I transfer from my mac to the rp2's external hard drive with samba, it's slow as hell ...and it's all wired ethernet connections
[15:17] <ozzzy_> yep... it will be
[15:20] <osxyer> um why?
[15:20] <Darkwell> amixer -c0 cset numid=1 80%
[15:20] <Darkwell> Doesnt work as expected...
[15:20] <ozzzy_> osxyer, well... it's a slow computer with slow networking
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[15:21] <osxyer> how can I format my drive to ext4 with osx
[15:24] <osxyer> i will never get like 15-16MB/s
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[15:27] <ozzzy_> not a clue
[15:27] <osxyer> alright
[15:29] * ozzzy_ has never seen osx
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[15:42] <Bilby> ozzzy_ did you have a question about OSX?
[15:43] * Bilby supports ALL THE OSES!
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[15:43] <ozzzy_> Bilby, hell no
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[15:50] <osxyer> im having issues transfering files
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[15:50] <Bilby> ozzzy_ lol
[15:50] <osxyer> from my computer to the rp2's external hard rive
[15:50] <Bilby> osxyer ah, okay
[15:50] <osxyer> can u help?
[15:50] <Bilby> what protocol are you using from computer to the pi?
[15:50] <osxyer> ftp
[15:50] <osxyer> it starts with 4MB/s and then it stops
[15:50] <osxyer> like freezing stop
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[15:51] <Triffid_Hunter> probably filled the I/O cache... RPis are not fast
[15:51] <Bilby> is the CPU capping out?
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[15:51] <osxyer> im not sure how to check that
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[15:52] <Bilby> ssh into the pi
[15:52] <Bilby> run top from the command line and watch it while doing a transfer
[15:53] <Bilby> might give you some cluse
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[15:54] <Bilby> In my experience you should at least have a stable rate
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[15:56] <Bilby> @ osxyer a good place to start, maybe http://www.howtoeverything.net/linux/raspberry-pi/performance-issues-when-copying-files-over-network
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[16:21] <pnwise> Also if your hard drive is NTFS, the NTFS-3g driver can put quite a lot of load on the CPU
[16:21] <pnwise> But this is just a guess here
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[16:27] <Bilby> Yes, it's much better to run EXT3/4 if it's going to be a pi-specific driver
[16:28] <pnwise> Actually I am looking to do something similar with external hard drive, but havent bought one yet
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[16:29] <Bilby> i did a setup with an external drive for a while, using it for torrenting with transmission.. the drive kept zombieing though :(
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[16:30] <Bilby> it was an older drive formatted for NTFS though so that might have been the rpoblem
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[16:31] <pnwise> What was the drive brand? I am looking for some 3.5 WD as they come with power supply and I can use the case if the drive goes bad, as some 2.5 are not exactly SATA
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[16:35] <Bilby> It's a WD, a 750gb unit i think. several years old at this point
[16:35] <Bilby> afaik WD is perfectly fine for use with Pis
[16:36] <ozzzy_> I use an HP, two Seagates, an OCZ, a Toshiba
[16:37] <pnwise> Did you manage to make it spin down/ turn off while not in use or it ran all the time. Because I am planning not to stop it all, but would be nice if can spin down while not in use for some days
[16:37] <ozzzy_> they all work fine and all but one of the seagates will hotplug
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[16:43] <Bilby> pnwise, actually it seemed like my problem was I couldn't get it to stop spinning down :P
[16:43] <ozzzy_> I've never noticed one spin down on the pi
[16:43] <ozzzy_> they spin down on all the windows machines
[16:44] <pnwise> Bilby Oh so you are from the other people who can't make them spin again... I guess I will have to see for myself
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[16:44] <Kryczek_> you can control that with hdparm and/or sdparm iirc
[16:44] <pnwise> I can put a relay and just cut the power :D But the drive wont last very long
[16:45] * ozzzy_ 's next machine will have all SSD with data drive in hotplug slots
[16:45] <pnwise> I know but there is problem with some drives for some people
[16:45] <Bilby> pnwise, admittedly i didn't spend much time on it \o/
[16:46] <pnwise> But HDDs are dirt cheap - they are the new tape archives. Someone should make archive similar to tar - hdar
[16:46] <Bilby> I'd like to see a case for a Pi with an mSATA slot for an SSD :D
[16:46] <ozzzy_> or a pi with a pcie slot
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[16:47] <pnwise> I want router pi - at least two ethernet ports on a different chip than the USB
[16:47] <pnwise> It would be killer home router
[16:47] <Bilby> a case wouldn't require any changes to the Pi :)
[16:47] <pnwise> Ok not killer, but nice one
[16:48] <ozzzy_> I might turn the spare 3.5" sbc into a router
[16:48] <Bilby> pnwise might look at an odroid or similar
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[16:50] <Bilby> though once you get above a certain size, a small atom-based system is probably more cost-effective
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[17:45] <Captain_Crow> can the pi use exFAT?
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[17:47] <ShorTie> not for /boot, but don't see why not else where like a external hdd
[17:47] <Captain_Crow> what formats are supported for boot?
[17:47] <ShorTie> fat16 and 32
[17:48] <ShorTie> only need fat16 though
[17:48] <Captain_Crow> those aren't showing up for my sd card
[17:48] <ShorTie> what cha mean ??
[17:48] <ShorTie> how big is the sdcard ??
[17:48] <Captain_Crow> i only see NTFS and exFAT
[17:48] <Captain_Crow> 64gb
[17:49] <ShorTie> ya, that is why
[17:49] <ShorTie> to big for fat32
[17:49] <ShorTie> there is a conversion program out there somewhere
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[17:51] <ShorTie> you trying to put a os on it i guess ??
[17:51] <Captain_Crow> yea
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[17:53] <ShorTie> it's really better i think to go with like a 7gb sdcard and a external hdd for storage
[17:53] <ShorTie> you want full raspbian or just a basic install ??
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[17:57] <Captain_Crow> im just using the noobs installer, i got the highest capacity cards that i could find cheaply
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[17:58] <Captain_Crow> im going to try formating it as fat32 on linux
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[18:01] <ShorTie> ya, noobs will not work
[18:02] <ShorTie> might be able to write the raspbian image to it
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[18:14] <Captain_Crow> ShorTie, how do i write the image?
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[18:15] <Captain_Crow> would 32gb sd cards work?
[18:16] <ShorTie> ya, 32's work ok
[18:16] <zubin71> Hi everyone! Has anyone tried compiling the latest kernel(with debug symbols) and tried to run it using qemu? I tried an earlier version of the kernel as I had an earlier version on the actual pi(and I wanted its .config). Could someone share the .config for the latest raspbian version?
[18:16] <ShorTie> dd for linux or win32diskimager for windows
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[18:18] <Captain_Crow> is there an installer script for dd? i'd probably mess something up if i tried it manually
[18:18] <Encapsulation> apt-get
[18:18] <Encapsulation> apt-get install dd
[18:19] <ShorTie> it's normally installed already
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[18:19] <ShorTie> E: Unable to locate package dd, oops
[18:19] <Captain_Crow> i mean is there an installer script for raspbian using dd
[18:20] <ShorTie> not much to it for a script to be made for it
[18:20] <ShorTie> dd of=where,i'm,going if=where,i'm,coming,from.img bs=4M
[18:21] <dyce> does it make any sense to use a solarpanel -> qualcomm quick charge 2.0 car charger -> quick charge 10000mah battery -> raspi?
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[18:21] <dyce> vs vs using a 12v battery?
[18:22] <ShorTie> more like 'dd of+/dev/sda if=2015-05-05-raspbian-wheezy bs=4M'
[18:22] <ShorTie> s+/=/
[18:22] <Encapsulation> dd bs=4M if=/path/to/raspbian.iso of=/dev/sdx && sync
[18:22] <Encapsulation> replace sdx with your sd card
[18:22] <Encapsulation> find it with lsblk
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[18:23] <Encapsulation> and of course, put the actual path after if=
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[18:29] <Captain_Crow> i get an error when trying to install dd
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[18:30] <Captain_Crow> i says permission denied and asked if im root
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[18:31] <ShorTie> need sudo in front
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[18:31] <Captain_Crow> now it says unable to locate package dd
[18:32] <ShorTie> what os you trying this on ??
[18:32] <Encapsulation> dd should be installed
[18:32] <Encapsulation> what happens ifd you try to run it
[18:32] <Captain_Crow> is there a way to test if its installed?
[18:32] <Encapsulation> right, he might not eveb be on linux...
[18:32] <Encapsulation> Captain_Crow,
[18:32] <Encapsulation> are you on windows?
[18:32] <Encapsulation> or linux
[18:32] <Captain_Crow> linux mint
[18:32] <Encapsulation> what happens if you type dd
[18:33] <Encapsulation> and press enter
[18:33] <Encapsulation> nvm
[18:33] <Encapsulation> dd -h
[18:33] <H__> :-D
[18:33] <Encapsulation> dd --help
[18:33] <Encapsulation> what does it say
[18:34] <ShorTie> part of coreutils i think
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[18:34] <Captain_Crow> a help page popped up
[18:35] <temmi_hoo> mint is one of those user friendly linuxes where command line is not needed or supported and most command line stuff isn't even easy to install should you be brave enough to want them
[18:35] <Encrypt> $ whereis dd | grep / >/dev/null && echo "dd is installed"
[18:35] <Encrypt> :}
[18:35] <H__> really ? (never tried mint)
[18:35] <jer> mint sounds aweful
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[18:40] <shiftplusone> temmi_hoo: not needed or supported? what are you talking about? I do all my dev work (mostly from the command line) on Mint. It's definitely supported.
[18:41] <shiftplusone> You might be thinking of pclinuxos... I remember being told off for telling someone about apt-get on their IRC channel. Never used it again.
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[18:42] <shiftplusone> Mint is just something between Debian and Ubuntu. Or just de-canonicalized Ubuntu.
[18:42] <SirLagz> weeeeeeee
[18:42] <H__> is mint also going the systemd route ?
[18:42] * shiftplusone grumbles about people smearing the good name of Mint
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[18:43] <shiftplusone> H__: upstart right now. They also have a debian edition, which will probably end up with systemd.
[18:44] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: hai
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[18:44] <shiftplusone> How's it going?
[18:45] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: yeah alright, yourself?
[18:45] <Captain_Crow> i hope mint supports wayland soon
[18:46] <shiftplusone> Captain_Crow: doubt anything is going to truly support wayland any time soon. Seems like wayland devs have a lot of work to do.
[18:46] <shiftplusone> SirLagz: Yeah, pretty good.
[18:46] <shiftplusone> One of those 'waiting for things to compile' work days. =/
[18:47] <temmi_hoo> shiftplusone: oh okay
[18:47] * temmi_hoo stands corrected
[18:47] <Captain_Crow> i thought wayland was mostly finished? wasn't all the work that was left just for distros to port their apps to wayland?
[18:47] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: heh i know the feeling
[18:47] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: though most of my day is waiting for other teams to do their work
[18:47] <temmi_hoo> my mother inlaw used to like mint as she has dyslexia and mint was somehow less cli oriented than some other
[18:48] <shiftplusone> Captain_Crow: no idea, to be honest. Haven't checked up on it in ages.
[18:48] <temmi_hoo> then mageia and then some else
[18:48] <temmi_hoo> she never uses one distro long enough to learn how it works
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[18:49] <shiftplusone> temmi_hoo: it's certainly user friendly, but not as the expense of anything. It's more of a "just works" distro. Although I'm having trouble with the gcc-gnueabi(hf)-arm toolchain on it =(
[18:49] <Captain_Crow> mint is the best distro (as in balanced easy of use and functionality) i've come across
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[18:58] <Encapsulation> why not just use debian
[18:58] <Encapsulation> or if you enjoy fixing things that shouldnt be broken, arch
[18:58] <temmi_hoo> in debian everything is older than ages old
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[18:58] <Encapsulation> and stable
[18:58] <Encapsulation> and supported
[18:59] <temmi_hoo> well yes and no
[18:59] <Encapsulation> I suppose my evidence is only anecdotal
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[18:59] <Encapsulation> but across a few installations of arch and debian
[18:59] <temmi_hoo> the programs have gone forward
[18:59] <Encapsulation> I've noticed some trends
[18:59] <Encapsulation> arch is always breaking, debian always seems to run smoothly
[18:59] <Encapsulation> arch everything is a nightmare to do
[18:59] <temmi_hoo> #weechat doesn't want to support the weechat version from debian distro
[18:59] <Encapsulation> debian its too easy
[18:59] <SirLagz> I've broken Debian before
[18:59] <temmi_hoo> same thing with openocd, the devs don't want to hear about those old versions
[19:00] <shiftplusone> Encapsulation: last time I checked, getting cinnamon or mate on debian was a pain.
[19:00] <Encapsulation> I'm sure there are some things that are harder
[19:00] <temmi_hoo> practically there is no support
[19:00] <Encapsulation> nothing is perfect
[19:00] <shiftplusone> and gnome is just... no.
[19:00] <Captain_Crow> debian isn't really "stable" when some of the programs are so old that they break compatability with modern versions
[19:00] <Encapsulation> I prefer lxde
[19:00] <temmi_hoo> debian core team says we don't support any 3rd party software and the 3rd party software don't support those old versions
[19:00] <temmi_hoo> => you don't get support
[19:00] <Encapsulation> like I said
[19:00] <temmi_hoo> Captain_Crow: exactly and then you still don't get support from anybowy
[19:01] <temmi_hoo> d
[19:01] <Encapsulation> it hasnt been an issue in the real world so far
[19:01] <shiftplusone> Crazy idea... but why not use a distro that works for you and let others use what works for them? =P
[19:01] <Encapsulation> I've been left wanting more of a challenge doing what I need to do on these debian systems
[19:01] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: that's how I roll :P
[19:01] <temmi_hoo> shiftplusone: sounds insane :)
[19:01] <Encapsulation> on arch, I've physically broken things
[19:01] <Encapsulation> =D
[19:01] <Encapsulation> I made the mistake of running arch on my pi for a while before coming to my senses and using raspbian
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[19:02] <Captain_Crow> maybe not for server related things, but for everything else it pretty much breaks compatability, mainly with file formats like .blend
[19:02] <Encapsulation> I run it on both of my vpsa
[19:02] <Encapsulation> may switch desktop soon
[19:03] <SirLagz> I run Debian sid on my desktop, seems to be fairly recent...not completely up to date but not behind behind either
[19:03] <shiftplusone> I haven't been brave enough to run anything other than stable debian.
[19:04] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: I ran testing on all of mine until testing became stable :D
[19:04] <Captain_Crow> i tried manjaro once which was arch based, it was ok but had some issues with binary programs and had desktop and usb bugs
[19:04] <shiftplusone> and then you went to unstable for the hell of it? O_o
[19:06] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: I'm only running unstable on my desktop
[19:06] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: all of the others run stable now :D
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[19:07] <shiftplusone> ah
[19:07] <Captain_Crow> does debian have a package manager gui?
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[19:07] <shiftplusone> Captain_Crow: I used synaptic
[19:07] <Armand> Captain_Crow: Aptitude, I think..
[19:08] <Armand> Or syn. ;)
[19:08] <shiftplusone> but I find that I don't go outside of apt-get (rarely aptitude) for these things anymore.
[19:08] <shiftplusone> SirLagz: and.... you're not running into issues?
[19:08] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: apparently not
[19:09] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: I've broken perl and squid before though lol
[19:09] <Captain_Crow> synaptic and aptitude would probably scare new users into going back to mac/windows
[19:09] <SirLagz> shiftplusone: I've been gaming on my unstable desktop
[19:10] <Encapsulation> Captain_Crow, it would?
[19:10] <Encapsulation> theyre lucky they have a package manager at all
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[19:12] <Captain_Crow> linux mint has a way more user friendly package manager
[19:13] <Armand> Indeed, Synaptic. :P
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[19:13] <pnwise> Synaptic is scarier than apt-get for begginers in my opinion. At least it was for me
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[19:14] <Armand> I've used Syn since day1 with Mint 15.. About 2 years now?
[19:16] <fred1807> is it okay to set my raspbian NOATIME flag?
[19:16] <Captain_Crow> most modern oses ios/windows8 have app stores with giant icons which is all that the modern generation of computer users will know how to use
[19:16] <Armand> O_o
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[19:19] <Armand> Captain_Crow: Not sure if serious or trolling, but it seems like you're making excuses for people who *should* stick with Windows or Mac OS if they can't be bothered to learn something new.
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[19:19] <Captain_Crow> thats not what i was saying
[19:19] <fred1807> Captain_Crow: that is not true because kids are playing with rapsberry today, that is why raspberry was created
[19:19] <Armand> That's sure how I read it.
[19:20] <pnwise> Well if they can't be bothered they should really stick using Windows
[19:20] <pnwise> Or whatever suits them
[19:20] <Captain_Crow> i'm saying that a lot of people will refuse to learn something if its too different or difficult compared to what they're used to
[19:21] <Captain_Crow> some kids know how to use a raspberry, but most don't
[19:21] <Armand> Then they really should stay wrapped up in their snug little blankets.. I have zero sympathy or patience.
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[19:23] <pnwise> If that what works for them why not? Why the average cashier or Joe should spend time learning something that he will not benefit in any way? If it is your hobby or professional interest then it is other story.
[19:24] <Captain_Crow> lack of user friendliness means its missing out on users, users drive the market, which means user friendly plays a factor in driving the popularity and interest in making apps(both commercial and open source) for a particular distro
[19:24] <Armand> I came from being self-employed doing desktop support for Windows, to getting promoted to a Linux SysAdmin role.. Best. Change. Ever!
[19:24] <pnwise> Just leave people in peace, lets dont be fanatics
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[19:25] <pnwise> Linux will never die, and people will never stop making applications and open source software.
[19:26] <MY123> pnwise, that is the unreal paradise
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[19:26] <pnwise> Which exactly
[19:27] <Captain_Crow> im just pointing out that user friendliness affects popularity which in turn affects the availability of compatible software
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[19:27] <Brutus> Hi, what's the default login to the shell when starting noobs? Trying to see why it won't start
[19:27] <Brutus> looks like a network issue but the lights are flashing
[19:27] <fred1807> need a bash script that uses s3cmd to sync a bucket to a local folder, but delete the files first, making space avaliable, and them copying the new files
[19:28] <Captain_Crow> even if software is open source there still has to be enough public interest for someone to be willing to compile it and test for bugs
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[19:29] <pnwise> Yeah that is true. And that is why next Windows will be free - because they need more adoption and user base, and it is kind of always have been if you want to use cracked version. Burt being fanatics and bashing how crappy it is only will make other people hating on Linux community
[19:29] <ozzzy_> windows works very well
[19:30] <Brutus> ok i found the pass, doesn't have a connection for some reason
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[19:30] <seriema> how can I copy over a whole bunch of folders to my rpi? can't get `scp` to do it but it's probably just some syntax thing. I tried ./ and * and . as the source but nope...
[19:32] <shiftplusone> seriema: full command you used?
[19:32] <seriema> scp ./ pi@192.168.1.14:~/tmp
[19:32] <seriema> scp * pi@192.168.1.14:~/tmp
[19:32] <shiftplusone> seriema: and what's the error you get?
[19:32] <seriema> .: not a regular file
[19:32] <shiftplusone> I don't think you can use ~/ there
[19:33] <seriema> I've had to have it there before when sending one file at a time
[19:33] <shiftplusone> what does this say? scp * pi@192.168.1.14:tmp/
[19:33] <shiftplusone> better yet... use rsync like a sane person.
[19:33] <shiftplusone> rsync -av ./ pi@192.168.1.14:tmp/
[19:34] <Encrypt> seriema, I imagien there is a recursive option
[19:34] <seriema> the * version said " not a regular file" for every folder
[19:34] <Encrypt> Yep
[19:34] <Encrypt> seriema, scp -r
[19:34] <Encrypt> seriema, Then: scp -r ./ pi@192.168.1.14:~/tmp
[19:34] <Encrypt> Try that
[19:34] <seriema> ah
[19:35] <seriema> seems to work!
[19:35] <seriema> thx
[19:35] <fred1807> can I send mpd (music player deamon) status over a omxplayer full screen video?
[19:36] <Encrypt> seriema, You're welcome :)
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[19:37] <shiftplusone> I still say rsync >> scp
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[19:38] <Encrypt> seriema, Do you have it to copy it just once?
[19:38] <Encrypt> Or update the folder later?
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[19:42] <seriema> just once
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[19:48] <shiftplusone> turns out it's a good idea to check which terminal you're typing 'sudo halt' into. Thought I was ssh'ed to the pi >_<
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[19:49] <pnwise> <shiftplusone> Once I changed the ownership of my root dir with mistake like this
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[19:54] <seriema> lol shiftplusone
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[20:29] <Captain_Crow> i tried the "dd bs=4M if=/path/to/raspbian.iso of=/dev/sdx && sync" thing and changed it to the proper paths, but its saying dd failed to open the drive path and permission denied
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[20:32] <Froolap> is the read only switch flipped on the sd card?
[20:32] <pmumble> sudo?
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[20:34] <MY123> Can the Android subforum be unlocked?
[20:34] <shiftplusone> unlikely
[20:34] <MY123> shiftplusone, why?
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[20:35] <MY123> (a Gallium3D Android driver is coming)
[20:35] <MY123> shiftplusone, see yesterday's anholt words on #razdroid
[20:36] <Captain_Crow> i tried sudo, it doesnt have a lock switch on it and i've put files on it before
[20:36] <shiftplusone> When that happens, maybe there's something to talk about, but for the last few years the subforum has just been "How do I android on the pi" and "can has android on pi yet" over and over.
[20:37] <MY123> shiftplusone, I know that :-)
[20:37] <Captain_Crow> why would anyone want android on the pi? aren't there enough android phones already?
[20:38] <shiftplusone> because people equate android with netflix
[20:38] <shiftplusone> (and they're in for disappointment)
[20:38] <MY123> shiftplusone, Netflix is impossible, period
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[20:38] <MY123> [DRM]
[20:38] <yogeshsarwate> Hi
[20:38] <shiftplusone> you don't have to tell me
[20:39] <MY123> shiftplusone, aaa801 is actually looking for implementing TrustZone
[20:39] <MY123> in a good enough state for Netflix
[20:39] <MY123> ...
[20:39] <MY123> It's a waste of time
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[20:40] <yogeshsarwate> Hi
[20:40] <MY123> Captain_Crow, and you can also say why people like Win10
[20:41] <MY123> (you can run Windows 10 Mobile on the Pi2, tested)
[20:41] <MY123> you are not limited to IoT Core
[20:43] <awoserra> anyone tried the netbsd and freebsd betas on pi yet?
[20:43] <awoserra> comments?
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[20:43] <awoserra> i hear network is buggy
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[20:46] <TheLostAdmin> awoserra: I know people who have tried the FreeBSD on Pi and said it works reliably well. I'm going to but haven't yet.
[20:46] <Captain_Crow> do i need sudo infront like this "sudo dd bs=4M if=/path/to/raspbian.iso of=/dev/sdx && sync" ?
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[20:48] <jer> Captain_Crow, yes, also try conv=sync instead of && sync
[20:49] <pmumble> what os are you on, crow?
[20:49] <Captain_Crow> mint
[20:49] <pmumble> cool
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[20:50] <yogeshsarwate> Hi
[20:50] <pmumble> 'lo
[20:51] <awoserra> TheLostAdmin: cool... i should be getting mine in the mail tomorrow or monday
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[20:51] <awoserra> i'mma try freebsd
[20:51] * awoserra ordered the 1gig
[20:52] <awoserra> i spose i can run linux on it and install pf too right?
[20:52] <TheLostAdmin> Let me know how it goes. I'm a long time FreeBSD user. I use debian on the Pi becuase it's "official".
[20:52] * awoserra rather use pf than iptables ><
[20:53] <MY123> shiftplusone, can you change the FAQ?
[20:53] <shiftplusone> Nope
[20:53] <shiftplusone> a new FAQ is in the works, but I have nothing to do with it
[20:53] <iopper> anyone doing touchscreen stuff with the pi?
[20:53] <iopper> I got everything setup but I need to figure out what to use to build a gui (thinking pyhton)
[20:54] <TheLostAdmin> awoserra, I assume you can use PF with it but I haven't tried.
[20:54] <MY123> shiftplusone, (Windows 8 part and the x86 programs part as there is ExaGear now)
[20:54] <awoserra> TheLostAdmin: will do man, i'll likely have some questions when i get it to get my project working, I'll be chilling for a while in here :)
[20:54] <awoserra> thanks!
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[20:54] <MY123> shiftplusone, and hours to update is far from true with it
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[20:55] <MY123> and ExaGear works on the Pi1 now
[20:55] <yogeshsarwate> Hi
[20:55] <TheLostAdmin> I'm attempting a bit of insanity to get FreeBSD on my Pi. I'm setting things up so I can netboot into FreeBSD. If I can figure out how, the Pi will fallback to Raspbian on the SD card but I can't figure out how to setup fallback.
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[20:56] <TheLostAdmin> awoserra, If you haven't seen it, this is the best place I've found to start for getting FreeBSD on the Pi https://wiki.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/arm/Raspberry%20Pi
[20:56] <TheLostAdmin> it says the camera is not tested but I've been told (on the mailing list) that support is in the kernel.
[20:57] <awoserra> nice thanks, i don't have a camera on mine
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[20:58] <awoserra> i won't even install xorg on my pi i odn't think
[20:59] <awoserra> just term
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[21:00] <TheLostAdmin> both of my Pis are headless. I plug in a monitor & keyboard when I need to see the console.
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[21:10] <awoserra> yah nice man
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[21:21] <Encapsulation> my pi is ultra headless
[21:21] <Encapsulation> most of the time its sealed inside a project box
[21:21] <Encapsulation> ethernet port routed to the outside
[21:21] <Encapsulation> wifi adapter inside
[21:21] <Encapsulation> my softwware automatically launches on boot into a screen then detaches
[21:22] <Encapsulation> when the user logs in through a webpage via shellinabox the screen is automatically resumed
[21:22] <Encapsulation> probably not the best way of doing what I needed
[21:22] <Encapsulation> but it works
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[21:31] <TheLostAdmin> shellinabox? Now I need to go look at what that is.
[21:32] <TheLostAdmin> My variation on that is SSH with the option to tunnel VNC if I want to see a big raspberry logo on my screen.
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[21:33] <Froolap> i need screen for xwindows sessions....... so I can ssh in and screen -r to see what the desktop is doing.
[21:35] <TheLostAdmin> Interesting thing that shell-in-a-box. I'll stick with requiring a more traditional SSH client but I do like shell-in-a-box
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[21:38] <awoserra> you don't need a desktop for anything ;P)
[21:38] <awoserra> ssh, screen do not require xorg
[21:39] <Froolap> kvirc
[21:39] <awoserra> irssi
[21:39] <awoserra> with adv_windowlist.pl
[21:39] <Froolap> blah
[21:39] <awoserra> ;)
[21:39] <awoserra> love it.
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[21:54] <Captain_Crow> what does "bs=4M" mean?
[21:55] <Froolap> block size 4 meg
[21:55] <ShorTie> write blocks of size 4meg
[21:55] <ShorTie> try 'man dd'
[21:56] <Ryccardo> yep, and it's also a multiplier for "count", "seek", "skip" etc
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[21:57] <cofo> is it needed: auto lo iface lo inet loopback ?
[21:58] <Kunsi> it is
[21:58] <Ryccardo> never tried removing loopback, but it surely doesn't hurt
[21:58] <cofo> Where do I see example for dhcp cable and wifi?
[21:58] <cofo> someone said he updated raspbian and now wifi not work
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[21:59] <cofo> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/vK2gQIhH/
[21:59] <cofo> this on /etc/network/interfaces
[21:59] <Ryccardo> wired dhcp -- it should be already there, off my memory: allow-hotplug eth0 ↓ iface eth0 inet dhcp
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[22:00] <cofo> what is missing?
[22:01] <cofo> There is so many different on any people configs
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[22:03] <cofo> auto eth0 need?
[22:03] <Kunsi> yes
[22:03] <Ryccardo> for wired, yes (even though I'd use allow-hotplug instead of auto)
[22:04] <Kunsi> you need all eth0 and all lo lines
[22:04] <Kunsi> otherwise most applications will break
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[22:04] <cofo> Which eth0?
[22:04] <Kunsi> all
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[22:04] <cofo> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/5rKDi2qs/
[22:04] <cofo> this ?
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[22:05] <Kunsi> is that your whole /etc/network/interfaces?
[22:05] <Ryccardo> it's missing "allow-hotplug eth0" before "iface eth0 ..."
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[22:05] <cofo> the one before his config
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[22:06] <Kunsi> if yes, it's missing auto eth0 or allow-hotplug eth0, also another line saying 'iface wlan0 inet dhcp'
[22:07] <Ryccardo> try replacing all of it with this http://pastie.org/10223947
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[22:08] <cofo> it will work?
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[22:09] <Captain_Crow> to use dd do i need an .iso or is .img the same thing?
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[22:10] <shiftplusone> you need the .img
[22:10] <Ryccardo> according to debian's website yes, I personally are used to putting wireless networks in wpa-supplicant.conf because I was always using Arch in these cases
[22:10] <cofo> he did it
[22:10] <cofo> he have the wpa-conf
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[22:11] <cofo> Do i need to change anything?
[22:11] <shiftplusone> iso implies an iso filesystem, which you definitely don't want. People (wrongly) call all raw images .iso's.
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[22:11] <Seriema> any of you backed this? https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/raspitv/hdmipi-affordable-9-high-def-screen-for-the-raspbe/description
[22:12] <cofo> the rainbow color on raspberry pi says something?
[22:12] <Ryccardo> shiftplusone: doesn't help that most Linux distro ISOs for x86 and x64 are a crazy combination of 3 partitioning systems
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[22:13] <shiftplusone> cofo: means the firmware is loaded and is now trying to fire up the kernel
[22:13] <fred1807> how to start a .sh at boot?
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[22:13] <Ryccardo> cofo: in the corner? get a better power brick and/or cable -- fullscreen, what shiftplusone said
[22:13] <cofo> =D
[22:13] <shiftplusone> fred1807: using an @reboot cronjob, service or rc.local.
[22:14] <cofo> using hdmi
[22:14] <shiftplusone> ah, good point Ryccardo... didn't occur to me it might be the undervoltage warning.
[22:14] <fred1807> shiftplusone: it is a loop script
[22:15] <cofo> burn!
[22:15] <shiftplusone> fred1807: same answer applies
[22:15] <methuzla> fred1807 (script.sh)&
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[22:23] <FlyingPersian> yoyo
[22:24] <FlyingPersian> anyone knows if PlexBMC supports playing playlists? I can browse to existing playlists when creating one manually in kodi
[22:25] <Captain_Crow> im getting an error saying theres no space left on device, but its a new sd card and theres plenty of space on it
[22:26] <Captain_Crow> do i need the path to the device or just /dev/sdcardname?
[22:26] <Ryccardo> does `df` agree?
[22:26] <methuzla> Captain_Crow did you expand file system after burning image?
[22:27] <Ryccardo> most likely the partition and/or filesystem aren't as big as possible ↑↑↑↑
[22:27] <Captain_Crow> not sure what you mean by expand file system
[22:28] <methuzla> option 1 in raspi-config
[22:28] <pnwise> <Seriema> For that price I can buy a smartphone or tablet and rip off the screen. this is far from "unexpensive"
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[22:29] <Ryccardo> run the `df` command, does the size displayed for root almost match the card's size
[22:29] <Seriema> pnwise: hm what about convinient then? hehe naw but if I could dream, what I'm after is a 5" super duper nice screen (that's the technical term, SDNS)
[22:30] <Seriema> pnwise: I was going to say OLED and HD, but when I googled for OLED for raspberry... it's monochrome?
[22:30] <Ryccardo> pnwise: agreed, but how would you connect it to the Pi then? (and for 80 € you could buy a bottom end 19 inch LCD in 2009, I bet they're cheaper now)
[22:30] <pnwise> Yeah it is nice, and everything. I havent seen this before now, but when he whole campain is about that is going to be unexpensive I dont expect 75pounds. You can buy 23" full hd tv for around 100 poinds
[22:31] <pnwise> *32
[22:31] <Ryccardo> now, if "someone" released DSI drivers...
[22:31] <pnwise> It is probably great, just dont fit in the description "inexpensive display for pi", maybe "very good display for pi"
[22:32] <Captain_Crow> the drive says 67gb in the properties and the df showed 753688 753688
[22:33] <Seriema> sooo... what would be a great 5" screen for pi? if it could have high pixel density I'd be super happy, but sharp and clear brightness/colors are more important. basically what you'd get on an iphone or similar is what I'd want.
[22:33] <Ryccardo> Captain_Crow: yeah, that's barely 1 GB
[22:34] <Captain_Crow> do i need to add the file path?
[22:34] <cofo> It's not working
[22:35] <methuzla> Captain_Crow option 1 in raspi-config
[22:35] <iopper> http://www.adafruit.com/product/2354
[22:35] <Captain_Crow> i dont have raspi installed yet
[22:35] <iopper> I setup that screen a few weeks ago, it's ok
[22:36] <Captain_Crow> im still trying to burn it onto the sd card
[22:36] <Ryccardo> Captain_Crow: doesn't matter then, unmount all partitions on the card and dd the image, you'll then easily expand it on the Pi itself
[22:37] <cofo> Ryccardo:
[22:38] <fred1807> can I write like this o rc.local? nohup ./loader.sh &>/dev/null &
[22:39] <Ryccardo> cofo: you're using a WPA/WPA2 network, right?
[22:39] <fred1807> methuzla:
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[22:40] <Seriema> iopper: I saw their 5" ones on their page. but the resolution seems pretty low though? I don't mind if it's the price that's the difference, but I can't seem to find a high density 5" screen
[22:41] <iopper> yeh it's only useful for an embedded device screen
[22:41] <methuzla> fred1807 make the path absolute
[22:41] <iopper> I'm hoping to mount it in a car using it as the stereo / some other misc things
[22:41] <fred1807> ok, the nohup is ok?..
[22:41] <methuzla> fred1807 never used it
[22:42] <Ryccardo> Seriema: and for iopper's display you also need a controller that costs almost as the panel anyway...
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[22:42] <Seriema> ah
[22:43] <Seriema> my idea is to make a gameboy thing (but the format would be more like the PlayStation Vita, with 5" between the hands)
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[22:43] <Captain_Crow> i tried df with the file path to the drive and it showed the actual space of the sd
[22:43] <iopper> need this: http://www.adafruit.com/products/2453
[22:43] <iopper> ~420
[22:43] <iopper> er $20
[22:43] <FlyingPersian> jesus it's so complicated to get into the playlist menu in PlexBMC
[22:44] <iopper> if you don't need touch you can get a better screen for the price though
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[22:44] <cofo> yes
[22:45] <Captain_Crow> when i try the file path on df it works, but with dd it says failed to open path is a directory
[22:46] <Seriema> don't need touch
[22:46] <Ryccardo> you dd an image to a device, not to a mountpoint
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[22:48] <Captain_Crow> when i tried to use dd with the device it said not enough space
[22:49] <Captain_Crow> how do i increase the space?
[22:49] <Captain_Crow> i mean it has enough space, but its not detecting it
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[22:50] <Ryccardo> post the exact command you entered
[22:51] <cofo> :
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[22:54] <Captain_Crow> df /dev/pi
[22:55] <Ryccardo> o.o
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[23:01] <Froolap> mount -t remote /dev/rpi2b@192.168.42.8 /local/screen
[23:01] <Froolap> not working
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[23:02] <fred1807> I am trying to crontab -e, but my edit get: errors in crontab file, can't install.
[23:03] <schuc> so what is your edit? what did you put into crontab -e?
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[23:07] <Captain_Crow> df is saying my drive doesn't exist now
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[23:07] <Captain_Crow> "no such file or directory"
[23:08] <pmumble> /dev/pi?
[23:08] <Captain_Crow> i named the sd card pi
[23:09] <pmumble> is this device listed in lsblk or cat /proc/partitions?
[23:10] <Captain_Crow> how do i find out?
[23:10] <pmumble> execute those commands
[23:11] <pmumble> try lsblk
[23:12] <Captain_Crow> lsblk shows it
[23:14] <pmumble> under what tree of devices? is the root node on the tree named pi?
[23:14] <Captain_Crow> no, sdb
[23:15] <pmumble> that's your dd target then, /dev/sdb. of course you want to be absolutely sure before you use dd, as if it isn't you will wipe out something else.
[23:15] <pmumble> but if that's the card, then your of parameter is /dev/sdb
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[23:18] <pmumble> they don't call it data destroyer for nothin
[23:18] <niston> yo
[23:18] * niston back
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[23:24] <Captain_Crow> it asked for a password and nothing is happening, is that a good thing?
[23:25] <pmumble> yeah there usually isn't feedback with dd, although some versions allow you to press ctrl-t to see progress
[23:26] <pmumble> there's a way to send it a signal also, but i only briefly heard about that recently. someone else might know.
[23:26] <pmumble> but otherwise, just sit back and pray
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[23:31] <Ryccardo> pmumble: `pkill --signal SIGUSR1 dd`
[23:31] <pmumble> nice thanks
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[23:40] <Berg> hello world
[23:41] <Berg> so after switching the power off to my pi last night i powered it up this morning and it shows a red and a green light and does nothing else
[23:41] <pmumble> oh no
[23:41] <Encrypt> Berg, SD Card corrumption
[23:41] <pmumble> did you try another sd card?
[23:41] <Encrypt> Probably...
[23:42] <Berg> only have one card
[23:42] <pmumble> no backups?
[23:42] <Berg> ooo dear me
[23:42] <Berg> not
[23:42] <Encrypt> Berg, Do you run "sudo halt" or "sudo shutdown now" to shutdown your pi?
[23:42] <pmumble> a day comes for most where they learn the importance of regular, automated backups. :/
[23:42] <Berg> i have all my scripts on sourceforge
[23:42] <pmumble> ok thats good
[23:42] <Encrypt> pmumble, Yeah :/
[23:42] <Encrypt> And that's often in this type of situation
[23:42] <Berg> i just do the shut down nand then i poll the plug
[23:43] <Berg> ok so i need a new sd card?
[23:43] <Encrypt> Berg, Ok, so you're shutting it down by clicking on the UI button
[23:43] <Berg> UI?
[23:43] <Encrypt> "user inteface"
[23:43] <Berg> im shutting it down by pulling npuwer
[23:44] <pmumble> maybe not, it might be ok after wiping it.. i had a sd corruption issue that was resolved with a clean install. but sd cards do eventually fail
[23:44] <Encrypt> You pull the plug when it's running?
[23:44] <Berg> its a guess as to weather it off on the software
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[23:44] <Berg> i think i might have if the sd card isa corrupted
[23:44] <Encrypt> Yeah
[23:44] <Encrypt> That's what I think too
[23:44] <Berg> it needs a better way to turn the power off
[23:45] <Berg> so sad card
[23:45] <Berg> well thats a relief
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[23:45] <Ryccardo> the SD itself operates independently of the host, ideally wait a few seconds after the card led flashes before unplugging
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[23:46] <Berg> still need a better way of shutting down
[23:47] <ShorTie> 'shutdown now -h' is the proper way
[23:47] <Berg> ok
[23:47] <Ryccardo> or even `sudo halt`
[23:47] <ShorTie> and after the act led blinks 10 times and stops, it's safe to pull the plug
[23:47] <pmumble> or 'poweroff'
[23:47] <Berg> sudo?
[23:48] <Berg> excellent
[23:48] <Ryccardo> almost obviously, all of them are to be done as superuser
[23:48] <Ryccardo> (well, you could bother with setuid...)
[23:48] <Berg> i just like to hear folks type superuser makes me feel important
[23:49] * Ryccardo aaaaaand I think I've managed to build my own wireless-regdb and matching crda
[23:49] <ShorTie> 'shutdown now -h' is the command, the others are short cuts that may work
[23:50] <Berg> i pasted that into the commands i sav e
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[23:51] <Berg> so i have to wait till shops open to fx my pi
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[23:53] <eggbeater> Quick question for all you fellow Pi'ers...
[23:54] <ShorTie> 2
[23:54] <ShorTie> a quick answer
[23:54] <eggbeater> typing it....it's a long one
[23:54] <ShorTie> thought you said quick ??
[23:55] <eggbeater> Is it possible to connect to the Internet purely through the GPIO pins? Simple yes or no is fine :D
[23:55] <eggbeater> I shortened it :P
[23:55] <pmumble> anything is possible given time in software
[23:55] <eggbeater> It's what I thought. Thanks!
[23:55] <pmumble> lol
[23:56] <ShorTie> why is more the ??
[23:56] <Ryccardo> you can probably tunnell PPP/SLIP/whatever over the serial port
[23:56] <ShorTie> or what for
[23:57] <eggbeater> well...say the entire USB bus died??
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[23:58] <ShorTie> get a better power supply and/or micro-usb cable then
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[23:58] <eggbeater> like the ethernet port and everything?
[23:58] <niston> eggbeater: I'd follow Ryccardo's advice and use SLIP/PPP
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[23:58] <ShorTie> ethernet port is part of the usb
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[23:58] <niston> but its going to be SLOW
[23:59] <eggbeater> It didn't actually happen...it's a theoretical question and I've been thinking about it for some time
[23:59] <ShorTie> and the 1st thing the pi does if having power issue's is shut down the usb
[23:59] <niston> like 1995 slow
[23:59] <eggbeater> niston: tell me about it....I'm on dial-up right now
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[23:59] <eggbeater> :P
[23:59] <niston> oO
[23:59] <eggbeater> yup
[23:59] <Ryccardo> eggbeater: too bad the cpu is soldered in, eh?
[23:59] <niston> let's raise some funds so eggbeater can upgrade to ISDN
[23:59] <niston> *g*
[23:59] <eggbeater> Ryccardo: ???

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