#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2015-06-08

Timestamps are in GMT/BST.

[0:00] <Berg> they got wood ones from yanky land for 18bucks
[0:00] <Berg> made from birch
[0:01] <Berg> ooo spain 13 bucks
[0:01] <Froolap> I could make one out of popcicle sticks
[0:01] <Berg> http://www.ebay.com/itm/CASE-for-Raspberry-Pi-2-model-Adapted-for-HiFiBerry-DAC-AUDIO-board-birch-wood-/361314833284?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item54200ad384
[0:01] <fred1807> I like these http://www.raspberry-pi-case.net/images/walnut/1.jpg
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[0:01] <Berg> ooo 2 piece
[0:01] <Berg> yeah that way would be costly
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[0:02] <Berg> looks good
[0:02] <Froolap> it's one piece, it just doesn't have a bottom. :O
[0:02] <Berg> it has a crack
[0:02] <Berg> look at it
[0:03] <fred1807> yes... We are talking about getting a thick wood piece and carve it
[0:03] <fred1807> that whats I was researching to do
[0:03] <Froolap> carpenters flaw
[0:03] <Berg> that would cost a fortune
[0:03] <fred1807> 30 usd
[0:03] <Berg> your talking RR and honda here
[0:03] <fred1807> for piece
[0:04] <fred1807> but in a series of 100 pieces
[0:04] <Berg> i wanted a honda
[0:04] <fred1807> so yeah
[0:04] <fred1807> a honda
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[0:04] <Berg> you need to find a old guy with nothing to do and no future to feel wanted and make them for you
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[0:05] <sigjuice> any suggestions on what sort of solder to use to stick a male header to the RUN pad? The store I went to had way too many different kinds of solder. I was not sure what to buy.
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[0:05] <fred1807> Berg: You know I was searching for this, not kidding
[0:05] <Berg> hmm
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[0:05] <Berg> you could make your own one oiff
[0:05] <Berg> off
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[0:06] <Berg> i can make that one in the image
[0:06] <Berg> but would take me a week or more
[0:06] <Berg> and it would be french polished with elephant tusk inlays
[0:06] <Berg> <---has all the best plans
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[0:07] <Berg> now i have to go make one when my new pi's arrive
[0:07] <Berg> wait i have one here i can make one now
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[0:08] <Froolap> sigjuice: I find best results with a silver bearing solder that doesn't include flux/resin.
[0:08] <Ryccardo> sigjuice: I used common 60% Sn + 40% Pb, 1 mm
[0:08] <fred1807> Is there something I can edit on the Boot partition (mouting the sd on my laptop) to make my Raspi find the eth0 ?
[0:09] <fred1807> I dont have a usb keyboard here
[0:09] <Ryccardo> so you're saying the integrated card doesn't appear in /dev?
[0:09] <fred1807> yes
[0:09] <fred1807> I can see a eth0 could be finded on boot
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[0:10] <fred1807> this after a firmware upgrade
[0:12] <Ryccardo> there are some related arguments, but they don't apply if the driver is a module, and probably don't matter for this case either http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Ethernet-HOWTO-8.html
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[0:14] <fred1807> Look this is the cause: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=90319
[0:14] <fred1807> I am almost sure
[0:14] <fred1807> Because I have 2 raspberry pis here,
[0:14] <fred1807> and this sd card was conected to both
[0:15] <fred1807> so at some given momment, the difference in mac adress made the system thinks it is a second ethernet card
[0:15] <fred1807> and named it eth1
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[0:20] <fred1807> yep
[0:20] <fred1807> connecting the card back to the other pi makes eth0 and dhcp works again
[0:20] <fred1807> that sucks :(
[0:21] <Berg> so you made a system copy and used it in other pi this cause the issue?
[0:22] <fred1807> not the system copy yet..... I plugged the sd on another pi, and then, dhcp failed
[0:22] <fred1807> connecting back to the original pi and it works
[0:22] <Berg> ooo sorta same thing
[0:22] <fred1807> yes
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[0:22] <fred1807> I need to fix it at boot,,,
[0:22] <Berg> yep
[0:22] <fred1807> otherwise my sd clones wont work plug and play
[0:22] <Berg> delete the first
[0:23] <Berg> yep i understand
[0:23] <Berg> interesting find
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[0:24] <UncleKiwi> hi
[0:25] <UncleKiwi> Hey im having a bit of a disk error on the pi
[0:25] <UncleKiwi> its now fine after a reboot
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[0:26] <UncleKiwi> its a usb msata disk with smart
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[0:26] <UncleKiwi> and its powered by a usb hub
[0:27] <UncleKiwi> kernel: sd 0:0:0:0: timing out command, waited 360s
[0:28] <UncleKiwi> ShorTie: Are you there ?
[0:28] <Ryccardo> fred1807: you probably need to remove a file named more or less /etc/udev/rules.d/50-persistent-network-interface -- the challenge is doing it early enough
[0:29] <Ryccardo> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[0:31] <fred1807> hmm
[0:31] <fred1807> can I delete it on every boot? at the very early stages
[0:32] <Ryccardo> eh, udev starts very early, you'd need to create an initscript and make udev depend on it
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[0:32] <[Saint]> fred1807: regarding wooden cases, you could always "cheat" and build it up in layers out of laser cut ply.
[0:32] <[Saint]> think PiBow.
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[0:33] <pksato> to prevent udev to rename network interface, create a empty /etc/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-generator.rules file
[0:33] <[Saint]> hell, it needn't be ply actually.
[0:33] <[Saint]> pksato: I don't believe the issue is knowing what to do, more so being able to do it.
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[0:33] <[Saint]> OP is in a tricky situation.
[0:34] <fred1807> pksato: so the system would never be able to save the file? but it would work anyway
[0:34] <[Saint]> fred1807: am I correct in thinking your only way to access the pi is via another machine, and that network is failing very early, preventing this connection?
[0:34] <Ryccardo> [Saint]: assuming he's on windows, there are ext4 drivers -- now, if he was using f2fs...!
[0:35] <[Saint]> If so, that puts us in quite a mess.
[0:35] <fred1807> [Saint]: I am connected now, because I am using the first raspberry used with the sd card..
[0:35] <[Saint]> I have to assume OP has a card reader somewhere.
[0:35] <pksato> two pies one card?
[0:35] <[Saint]> He managed to get the image on the card to begin with...
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[0:35] <fred1807> Ryccardo: I am on mac
[0:35] <fred1807> I have more cards here lol
[0:35] <fred1807> but I am building , testing with one card so far
[0:36] <Ryccardo> osxfuse + fuse-ext2
[0:36] <fred1807> yes I have a 4 entries card card, how cool is that
[0:36] <fred1807> card reader
[0:36] <Ryccardo> https://github.com/osxfuse/osxfuse/wiki/Ext
[0:37] <fred1807> pksato: Can I create a dull 70-persistent-net.rules , so system cannot save settings for later? Or that would break everything ?
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[0:38] <fred1807> well, in the end.. I dont now if that is a problem of the offical raspbian
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[0:38] <fred1807> I am using a minimal install
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[0:39] <Ryccardo> no, it's a "feature"
[0:39] <Ryccardo> so that you could set up the two systems with different network settings
[0:39] <fred1807> hmm
[0:39] <Froolap> is there a how2 on how to confuse yourself with loop?
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[0:44] <fred1807> where can I change the 70-persistent-net.rules to be created at /tmp :)
[0:44] <fred1807> ?
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[0:46] <Ryccardo> maybe you could use chattr to make the file impossible to change even by root
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[0:50] <fred1807> Ok, I need to know when the system needs 70-persistent-net.rules ... Is it used only at boot? If so, can I use crontab to delete it after boot?
[0:51] <Ryccardo> it never requires it
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[0:57] <fred1807> so why it is created lol
[0:57] <fred1807> just to mess with sd clones?
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[1:00] <Ryccardo> so that if you genuinely had multiple network cards, maybe you only plugged in some, you're guaranteed iwl2 is card X, eth54 is Y...
[1:02] <fred1807> I will only have the raspberry ethernet... so
[1:02] <fred1807> I may use a wifi dongle in the future..
[1:02] <fred1807> hmm
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[1:03] <Ryccardo> same reason UUIDs are commonly used in fstab even though I never had to boot a disk on another computer in over 13 years
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[1:26] <Encapsulation> anyone who has a burned pi or arduino
[1:26] <Encapsulation> put the magic smoke back in!
[1:26] <Encapsulation> it sounds crazy, I know
[1:26] <Encapsulation> but give it a shot
[1:26] <Encapsulation> I got maybe 80% back into my arduino nano and it works!!!
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[1:27] <Froolap> glad to hear it
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[1:37] <Xark> Encapsulation: Hmm, what other kinds of smoke have you been inhaling? :)
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[1:41] <Froolap> just the magic smoke..... puff the magic drag and down by the sea........
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[1:44] <Ryccardo> capacitors should be illegal in the UK
[1:45] <Ryccardo> "any weapon designed or adapted for the discharge of any noxious liquid, gas or other substance."
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[1:47] <UncleKiwi> hey everyone, whats the correct reading of voltage across F3 o the pi
[1:47] <UncleKiwi> ??
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[1:48] <UncleKiwi> i have a pi that is using to much power someone told me it may be the fuse
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[1:52] <Tenkawa> hi all
[1:52] <Froolap> hi
[1:53] <Froolap> fuse?
[1:53] <Tenkawa> eh?
[1:53] <Ryccardo> yep, the green SMD part almost opposite the microusb socket
[1:53] <Tenkawa> ahhh
[1:53] * Froolap points to UncleKiwi
[1:53] <UncleKiwi> yeah thanks
[1:54] <Tenkawa> Froolap: whats new?
[1:54] <Froolap> Me.....
[1:54] <Froolap> I'm new to trying to set up ip netns.
[1:54] * Tenkawa is trying to recover from a gaming convention heh
[1:54] <UncleKiwi> im just getting a low voltage reading across the fuse .25 volt
[1:54] <UncleKiwi> very strange
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[1:55] <Tenkawa> UncleKiwi: does the resistance measure out within tolerance?
[1:55] <Froolap> Well, get it to draw a little more current and you won't have that problem any more.
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[1:55] <Tenkawa> that might be causing some hiccup
[1:56] <UncleKiwi> i have two pi's one will mesure 5.01volts between tp1 and tp2
[1:56] <UncleKiwi> the other with same psu only measures 4.84
[1:56] <UncleKiwi> i have been told to check the fuse F3
[1:57] <UncleKiwi> and when i measure voltage across it it only shows .25
[1:57] <Tenkawa> check its volt, current, and resistance
[1:57] <Tenkawa> compare those against the known good
[1:57] <Ryccardo> still, 4,84 should acceptable by USB standards...
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[1:58] <UncleKiwi> but something is different
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[1:58] <UncleKiwi> with this pi
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[1:58] <Tenkawa> Ryccardo: thats iffy... usb doesnt like voltage spikes.. remember thats probably altering the mah current too
[1:59] <Tenkawa> and when usb devices start losing current they act strange faitly quickly (at least for me)
[1:59] <Tenkawa> er fairly
[1:59] <UncleKiwi> good power is key on the pi
[1:59] <Tenkawa> yep
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[2:01] <Tenkawa> oh joy... more weather changes coming
[2:01] <Tenkawa> uggh
[2:02] <UncleKiwi> Tenkawa where are you located ?
[2:02] <Tenkawa> UncleKiwi: ohio usa
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[2:02] <UncleKiwi> do you have a twister on the way ?
[2:02] <Tenkawa> nah.... just thunderstorms
[2:03] <Tenkawa> i just dont do well with weather changes
[2:03] <Tenkawa> my body doesnt like them
[2:03] <Tenkawa> even when i was young
[2:04] <UncleKiwi> interesting my body likes good food and a warm house
[2:04] <UncleKiwi> and working computers
[2:04] <Froolap> I don't know where tp1 and tp2 are and I'm no longer seeing the illustration of what is where on the pi.
[2:04] <Tenkawa> cool house and good food :)
[2:04] <Tenkawa> Froolap: which model?
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[2:04] <Froolap> any
[2:04] <UncleKiwi> mine is a B
[2:04] <Tenkawa> oh
[2:04] <UncleKiwi> not and rpi 2
[2:04] <Tenkawa> let me look
[2:05] <fred1807> anyone here uses hello_video.bin ?
[2:05] <UncleKiwi> they are on the top side
[2:05] <Froolap> it used to be in the products page, but only showing the pi2b and no p[ictures with circles and arrows
[2:06] <Tenkawa> right under the pi logo on the board
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[2:06] <Tenkawa> according to:
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[2:06] <Tenkawa> http://elinux.org/File:RPI_Test_Points.JPG
[2:06] <Tenkawa> see if that helps
[2:06] <Ryccardo> original B?
[2:06] <Froolap> all I see are cartoon drawings. https://www.raspberrypi.org/
[2:07] <Ryccardo> both on component side, tp1: between "large" capacitor by microusb and DSI port; tp2: between GPIO and composite
[2:07] <Tenkawa> Ryccardo: cant quite tell which model this board is however it does have an old enough trademark
[2:08] <Tenkawa> they are pretty clearly marked from what i see on the board
[2:10] <Tenkawa> wow this brings back memories of learning circuitboards in the early 80's
[2:10] <Ryccardo> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3d/RaspberryPi.jpg
[2:10] <Ryccardo> this is the very first model, later original Bs with blue audio socjet have tp1 closer to DSI
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[2:12] <jaggzi> is there a commandline MP3 player that lets you pause, jump, etc?
[2:12] <Tenkawa> gotta run for now.. good luck UncleKiwi .. cheers all
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[2:12] <Ryccardo> jaggzi: omxplayer can, the controls aren't too intuitive though
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[2:14] <Xeon3D> suggestions for distro on a new rpi2 (user)
[2:15] <jaggzi> ryccardo, trying to find docs..
[2:16] <jaggzi> got it.. thanks :)
[2:17] <jaggzi> what about a web based media server that doesn't require x running on the rip?
[2:17] <jaggzi> rpi
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[2:18] <jaggzi> xeon3d raspbian?
[2:19] <Xeon3D> answering a question with another question is kinda... erm difficult on my end.
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[2:21] <Froolap> I like fedora on my pi2b
[2:21] <Ryccardo> Xeon3D: it's the name of the most popular distro for Pi (all models), it has a bit of bloatware preinstalled but it doesn't get in the way, and when you'll learn a little bit more it's easy to remove
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[2:22] <jaggzi> ryccardo, keys have no effect..
[2:22] <jaggzi> is there a commandoine option to enable it?
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[2:23] <Ryccardo> jaggzi: weird, because I remember well using it that way -- using only '-o hdmi the-file'
[2:24] <jaggzi> I'm playing out the headphone jack to speakers.. but I don't think that's related.. hmm.. looking at all the commandoine options in --help
[2:24] <Xeon3D> Ryccardo: I have no issues with Linux in general tbh. Just wanting to know if there was one that was generally preferred over another
[2:26] <Ryccardo> still voting for raspbian, because it's optimized for our processors... and of course it's Debian
[2:26] <jaggzi> lots of gui options.. maybe this is only for gui key bindings
[2:27] <jaggzi> also, no status .. I can't see anything about the output position or length
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[2:28] <Travis> HEllo
[2:28] <jaggzi> shhhhh
[2:28] <Travis> What's a good monitor for the Pi? I don't like the gigantic HDMI cable I have :(
[2:29] <jaggzi> to display what?
[2:29] <UncleKiwi> sweet it was my fuse that was naffed
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[2:29] <Xark> Travis: Near any HDMI (or DVI) monitor. 1920x1080 recommended (by me at least).
[2:30] <Ryccardo> jaggzi: when you press the arrows, it outputs to console something like "jumping to 1:30/5:23", no realtime display though
[2:30] <Travis> I have a DVI-capable monitor. The cord I have to have for it is heavy and large.
[2:30] <Xark> Travis: Why don't you just get a new cable?
[2:30] <Xark> Travis: I like the little DVI to HDMI adapters that go into the monitor (then use normal HDMI HDMI cable).
[2:31] <Travis> I already bought the cable for my DVD player, to play it on my spare monitor :(
[2:31] <Travis> My Pi2 will be my new amateur radio computer.
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[2:32] <Travis> I was thinking about picking up one of the Atrix 4G docking stations and trying to make patch cables for the Pi, but don't know how successful that would be.
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[2:33] * Xark likes think (cheap) cables from Monoprice (like https://www.monoprice.com/Product?p_id=11559 )
[2:33] <Xark> thin*
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[2:34] <Travis> I have a HDMI cable that came with it.
[2:35] <Ryccardo> hmmm, looks too flimsy to my eye
[2:36] <Xark> Ryccardo: Works great. At work a mate has a 12' version (works great).
[2:36] * Xark hates cables so thick they flip the RPi around. :)
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[2:37] <Travis> That's what my cable does.
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[2:38] <Travis> I wish that I had kept an old laptop around.
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[2:38] <Xark> Travis: Yeah, my old DVI to HDMI cable was thicker than a 20A power cord. :)
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[2:39] <Travis> I have a Philips cable that does that.
[2:39] <Travis> It's so thick, it makes the Pi flip.
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[2:40] <Froolap> that does what?
[2:41] <Travis> The weight of my DVI to HDMI cable makes my Pi flip over.
[2:41] <Froolap> my hdmi cable just sits therem it doesn't doooo anything.
[2:41] <Travis> Wow.
[2:41] <Xark> Froolap: Well, be happy. Not fun having your Pi move around (or flip over) due to tension on video cable. :)
[2:42] <Travis> Looks like I am unable to find out what speed my Pi's CPU is.
[2:42] <Froolap> heh I solved that problem.......
[2:42] <Xark> Travis: "cat /proc/cpuinfo" ?
[2:42] <Travis> It doesn't tell me the speed.
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[2:43] <Xark> Travis: Right. Weak.
[2:43] <Travis> Something about "Little Endian" comes up.
[2:44] <Travis> wait here we go
[2:44] <Travis> I have the graphical thing up.
[2:44] <Xark> Travis: Try /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq (from https://superuser.com/questions/734629/proc-cpuinfo-doesnt-show-cpu-frequency-at-all)
[2:44] <Travis> Celeron M 1.5 GHz?
[2:44] <Travis> oooh
[2:44] <Travis> That's what it's benchmarked against
[2:47] <Travis> grrr. At least I am getting IRC put on it.
[2:47] <Travis> I did find out that it will run a SignaLink USB digita mode interface device :D
[2:48] <Travis> I didn't think that 2 amps of power from the PSU would supply enough power to run it. Boy, was I wrong (again).
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[2:51] <Captain_Crow> is acrylic sturdy enough to drill holes through it w/o breaking?
[2:54] <Encapsulation> can someone help me wire s switch >_<
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[2:57] <Encapsulation> nvm I found it
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[3:05] <Froolap> Xark: While this isn't exactly what I have..... well it might be.... http://www.amazon.com/MU-Creative-Folding-Layers-Desktop/dp/B00XNG7BX2/ref=sr_1_24?ie=UTF8&qid=1433725424&sr=8-24&keywords=folding+shelves+desktop
[3:06] <Froolap> What I have looks just like that and is 15 inches long. The slots in the top of the shelf are perfect for routing the pi cables through to keep the wires organized and out of the way and will keep the pi from tipping over from the cable overhang.
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[3:08] <Froolap> I have two shelves that look just like it, perfect for router/switch on top shelf, 3 pi and a kvm on the middle shelf, and nas on the table top under the shelf.
[3:08] <Xark> Froolap: I have something similar (but aluminum and foldy http://www.amazon.com/Furinno-Adjustable-Laptop-Desk-Multifuctional/dp/B004QXIFCC), still rather have a good cable (and my RPi gets moved around [for GPIO etc.]).
[3:09] <Froolap> You aren't going to do much in routing of wires and wasting slack with those holes though.
[3:09] <Xark> Froolap: No, and I wouldn't want too.
[3:09] <Xark> (as I mentioned, RPi is not "stationary" enough)
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[3:32] <Ownix> I have a USB wirless n Wifi dongle and I dont think its fast enough for me to send a 1080p movie from my NAS to the pi
[3:33] <Ownix> there is a lot of buffering, and then when I plug in a CAT5 cable directly to the onboard NIC its just fine
[3:33] <Ownix> is there a wireless solution that will help me prevent this bottleneck?
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[3:34] <pksato> Ownix: wifi is slow.
[3:35] <Ownix> pksato yeah and I wasnt sure if the bottleneck was the USB 2.0 port
[3:35] <Ownix> im assuming its wifi in general. But Wirless N protocol can handle some serious speeds and i have a very nice router
[3:35] <Ownix> AC 5ghz I dont see the issue here...
[3:35] <Ownix> but it buffers and theres no way to dispute that
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[3:37] <Ownix> A cheap idea that just came to mind would be a Powerline adapter
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[3:37] <Ownix> ethernet through the house wiring....
[3:37] <Ownix> would be cheap and ez
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[3:40] <pksato> three antenna mimo usb dongle
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[3:41] <fred1807> what was the tool you said could help me on clonning a 32gb sd po card very fast (actually there is 1 gb of real data, and the rest is blank space)
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[3:57] <Ownix> fred1807 not sure about "very fast" but the best tool I know of is CloneZilla
[3:57] <Ownix> its a live linux CD
[3:57] <fred1807> someone told me how to copy only the first 1gb...
[3:58] <fred1807> problem is writing a whole dump 32gb card
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[4:07] <Xeon3D> what's the name of that multibooter for the pi2?
[4:08] <pksato> noobs? uboot?
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[4:10] <Tenkawa> Xeon3D: define multibooter
[4:10] <Xeon3D> Berryboot :P
[4:10] <Tenkawa> heheh
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[5:54] <awoserra> compiled apache2 :)
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[6:08] <Berg> why?
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[6:11] <[Saint]> Masochism.
[6:13] <Xark> Try Gentoo. :)
[6:16] <awoserra> dbase compiling
[6:16] <awoserra> why apache2?
[6:17] <awoserra> ermm... can code different functionality available through http
[6:17] <awoserra> :)
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[6:18] <awoserra> and linking files to share is easy
[6:18] <awoserra> and easy to retrieve
[6:18] <temmi_hoo> so, why compile instead of installing via pkg?
[6:19] <awoserra> FreeBSD karnak 11.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT #0 r284050
[6:19] <awoserra> no pkg repo for tier two freebsd architectures
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[6:20] <awoserra> https://www.freebsd.org/platforms/arm.html
[6:20] <tawr> hi guys
[6:21] <awoserra> yo tawr
[6:21] <awoserra> i could use a third party repo temmi_hoo, but would rather just compile stuff
[6:21] <tawr> how goes it
[6:21] <awoserra> good ^ ^
[6:21] <awoserra> yourself?
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[6:22] <tawr> good. still super sore
[6:22] <awoserra> heheh
[6:23] <awoserra> what were you doing?!
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[6:23] <awoserra> brb sec
[6:24] <tawr> heh. nothing even remotely worth the physical pain.
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[6:24] <tawr> i finished powerwashing my house and all my concrete
[6:28] <Berg> nano bots
[6:29] <awoserra> hehehe
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[6:44] <tawr> awoserra, i did get this cool attachment
[6:44] <tawr> it has 2 nozzles, and it is inside a dome cover, they spin at like 1k+ rpm
[6:44] <tawr> takes like 8 seconds for them to wind up, it sounds awesome on top of it as they wind up, but it lets you clean a much bigger area, faster, and also keeps everything clean with no splashing
[6:45] <temmi_hoo> so you can wash the house every week now!
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[6:45] <awoserra> heheh
[6:45] <temmi_hoo> inside out, just like 50s commercials of plastic fantastic
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[6:45] <tawr> haha
[6:46] <tawr> i have a 3000psi pressure washer
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[6:46] <tawr> it would literally cut sheet rock
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[6:46] <tawr> i actually screwed up the concrete/mortar on my flagstone
[6:47] <tawr> went to home depot today to get hydraulic cement to repair it, i used the normal spray nozzle to clean a few areas and it cut through / broke the cement and sent it flying in a few places
[6:47] <tawr> :(
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[6:50] <temmi_hoo> water cutting is pretty cool
[6:51] <tawr> definitely is
[6:51] <tawr> plasma cutting was one of my all-time highs
[6:51] <tawr> then i bought one and do it so often now it's like meh
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[7:08] <awoserra> down to 17 processes
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[7:10] <awoserra> 52 on my laptop ><
[7:10] <Encapsulation> I have this feeling I'm going to be shocked by ac
[7:11] <awoserra> what for?!
[7:14] <awoserra> just don't touch both ends and you'll be fine :)
[7:14] <awoserra> hahah
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[7:15] <temmi_hoo> Encapsulation: you should totally get yourself that isolation transformer
[7:15] <awoserra> better yet, don't touch anything with power running to it ><
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[7:15] <awoserra> or in it ><
[7:16] <awoserra> around it
[7:16] <tawr> meh
[7:16] <tawr> 120vac
[7:16] <tawr> tickles
[7:17] <tawr> i've been zapped by 120vac so many times i don't even bother moving anymore
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[7:17] <temmi_hoo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaELqAo4kkQ
[7:18] <temmi_hoo> also watch this
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[7:19] <awoserra> i never zap myself
[7:19] <awoserra> haha
[7:20] <awoserra> precautionary :)
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[7:49] <dyce> anyone know of some good splicing terminals?
[7:49] <dyce> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/100pcs-K1-Wire-Cable-Connection-Wire-Terminals-Quick-Fit-Splicing-Head-Wires-Connector-K1-Joint-Connector/2034705481.html
[7:58] <temmi_hoo> those are pretty good for small solid core wires
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[9:42] <Berg> tawr in australia we have standard 240vac
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[10:06] <temmi_hoo> much better standard
[10:06] <temmi_hoo> 110vac hardly kills even when hand to hand
[10:07] <ShorTie> it's a power/current thing is why they use 220 instead of 110 like the US
[10:08] <Encapsulation> if I have a reading 0-1024 from a potentiometer on my arduino
[10:08] <Encapsulation> how can I increase exponentially
[10:08] <Encapsulation> a resulting number
[10:10] <Berg> 240
[10:11] <ShorTie> 220/240 or 110/120, it's like all the same same
[10:11] <Berg> its power to the people
[10:12] <Berg> anyway 240 volts is ouch time
[10:12] <ShorTie> 110/120 is just hafe the sign wave of the 220/240
[10:12] <Berg> :)
[10:12] <ShorTie> voltage don't kill, amps is the killer
[10:13] <Berg> you need to come and wire my solar system if your not too busy
[10:13] <Berg> grab a cab see ya in a hour
[10:13] <Berg> :)
[10:13] <ShorTie> take the spark of a lawn mower or such, 25-50,000 volts, but it doesn't kill ya
[10:13] <Berg> have you looked at the tesla battery that shopuld be able to power my pi
[10:14] <Berg> i been making flyback sparky spoarky boom machines for a while now
[10:14] <ShorTie> not much for batteries really
[10:15] <Berg> are they any good?
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[10:19] <Berg> Powerwall comes in 10 kWh weekly cycle and 7 kWh daily cycle models. Both are guaranteed for ten years and are sufficient to power most homes during peak evening hours. Multiple batteries may be installed together for homes with greater energy need, up to 90 kWh total for the 10 kWh battery and 63 kWh total for the 7 kWh battery.
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[12:35] <Megaf> # apt-get --purge remove cups-bsd cups-client esound-common fonts-droid fonts-roboto fuse geoip-database ghostscript libaudiofile1 libaudit0 libavahi-core7 libcupsimage2 libcwiid1 libesd0 libfile-copy-recursive-perl libfm-data libfm-extra4 libfuse2 libgeoip1 libgif4 libgs9 libgs9-common libid3tag0 libijs-0.35 libjbig2dec0 libmad0 libmenu-cache1 libmikmod2 libmtdev1 libpaper-utils libpaper1 libpciaccess0 libpoppler19 libportmidi0 libqt4-network
[12:35] <Megaf> libruby1.9.1 libsclang1 libscsynth1 libutempter0 libvorbisfile3 libvte-common libwayland0 libwnck-common libyaml-0-2 lxpanel-data poppler-data pypy-upstream-doc ruby1.9.1 supercollider-common tcl8.5 update-inetd xbitmaps xfce-keyboard-shortcuts zenity-common aptitude avahi-daemon bind9-host blt console-setup consolekit dbus-x11 desktop-base desktop-file-utils dillo epiphany-browser galculator gconf-service gconf2 gksu gnome-icon-theme gnome-icon-
[12:35] <Megaf> theme-symbolic gnome-themes-standard gpicview gsfonts-x11 gstreamer0.10-alsa gstreamer0.10-plugins-base gstreamer1.0-libav gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad gstreamer1.0-plugins-good gstreamer1.0-x gtk2-engines gvfs gvfs-backends gvfs-common gvfs-daemons gvfs-fuse gvfs-libs idle idle-python2.7 idle-python3.2 idle3 leafpad lesstif2 libaa1 libarchive12 libatk-bridge2.0-0 libatspi2.0-0 libaudio2 libavcodec53 libavcodec54 libavformat54 libbind9-80 libcairo-
[12:35] <Megaf> gobject2 libcairo2 libchromaprint0 libcroco3 libdirectfb-1.2-9 libdns88 libept-dev libept1.4.12 libfltk1.3 libfluidsynth1 libfm-gtk-data libfm-gtk4 libfm-modules libfm4 libgd2-xpm libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 libgeoclue0 libgksu2-0 libgl1-mesa-glx libglade2-0 libglu1-mesa libgnome-desktop-3-2 libgphoto2-2 libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0 libgstreamer0.10-0 libgtk-3-0 libgtk-3-bin libgtk-3-common libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-bin libgtk2.0-common libgtop2-7 libgtop2-
[12:35] <Megaf> common libice6 libimlib2 libimobiledevice2 libisc84 libisccc80 libisccfg82 libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0-0 liblightdm-gobject-1-0 liblwres80 libnotify4 libnss-mdns libobrender27 libobt0 libopencv-contrib2.4 libopencv-highgui2.4 libopencv-legacy2.4 libopencv-objdetect2.4 libopencv-videostab2.4 libpango1.0-0 libpangocairo-1.0-0 libpangox-1.0-0 libpangoxft-1.0-0 libplist1 libpulse0 libqscintilla2-8 libqt4-svg libqtgui4 libqtwebkit4 librsvg2-2 librsvg2-common
[12:35] <Megaf> libsdl-image1.2 libsdl-mixer1.2 libsdl-ttf2.0-0 libsdl1.2debian libsm6 libsmpeg0 libsoup-gnome2.4-1 libsoup2.4-1 libstartup-notification0 libts-0.0-0 libusbmuxd1 libvisual-0.4-plugins libvte9 libwebkitgtk-3.0-0 libwebkitgtk-3.0-common libwnck-3-0 libwnck22 libx11-6 libx11-data libx11-xcb1 libx264-123 libx264-130 libxapian-dev libxapian22 libxau6 libxaw7 libxcb-glx0 libxcb-render0 libxcb-shape0 libxcb-shm0 libxcb-util0 libxcb-xfixes0 libxcb1
[12:35] <Megaf> libxcomposite1 libxcursor1 libxdamage1 libxdmcp6 libxext6 libxfce4ui-1-0 libxfce4util-bin libxfce4util-common libxfce4util4 libxfconf-0-2 libxfixes3 libxfont1 libxft2 libxi6 libxinerama1 libxkbcommon0 libxkbfile1 libxklavier16 libxml2 libxmu6 libxmuu1 libxp6 libxpm4 libxrandr2 libxrender1 libxres1 libxslt1.1 libxss1 libxt6 libxtst6 libxv1 libxvidcore4 libxxf86dga1 libxxf86vm1 libzbar0 lightdm lightdm-gtk-greeter lxappearance lxde lxde-common lxde-
[12:36] <Megaf> core lxde-icon-theme lxinput lxmenu-data lxpanel lxpolkit lxrandr lxsession lxsession-edit lxshortcut lxtask lxterminal minecraft-pi netsurf-gtk nuscratch obconf openbox oracle-java8-jdk pcmanfm pipanel pistore policykit-1 poppler-utils pypy-setuptools pypy-upstream pypy-upstream-dev python-minecraftpi python-pygame python-tk python3-minecraftpi python3-pygame python3-tk qjackctl raspberrypi-net-mods raspberrypi-ui-mods scratch shared-mime-info
[12:36] <Megaf> smartsim sonic-pi squeak-plugins-scratch squeak-vm supercollider supercollider-server timidity tk8.5 tsconf usbmuxd weston wolfram-engine wpagui x11-common x11-utils x11-xkb-utils x11-xserver-utils x2x xarchiver xauth xfce4-mixer xfconf xfonts-encodings xfonts-utils xinit xkb-data xpdf xserver-common xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-
[12:36] <Megaf> fbturbo zenity
[12:36] <Megaf> o/
[12:36] <Armand> Oi, noob.
[12:36] <Armand> PASTBIN
[12:36] <Armand> *PASTEBIN, rather
[12:36] <Megaf> What have I done
[12:36] <Armand> Spammed the channel, you dionk
[12:36] <Armand> *doink.. dyslexic keyboard today..
[12:37] <Megaf> lol
[12:37] <Megaf> I'm dyslexic
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[12:37] <Megaf> But I noticed that if type rather slow I will make less mistakes
[12:37] <ShorTie> way way to much to remove, better to start off with a minamil install and work up to what you want, imho
[12:37] <Megaf> Anyway. "After this operation, 1,274 MB disk space will be freed."
[12:38] <Megaf> ShorTie: Yep, I wish we had a minimal Raspbian image
[12:38] <Armand> Looks like you're scrubbing the entire desktop system
[12:38] <ShorTie> look to my_pi_os then maybe
[12:38] <Megaf> all I need is ssh-server and git...
[12:39] <Megaf> ShorTie: I couldn't find a way to do a minimal install, headless non automatic
[12:39] <shiftplusone> Megaf: we do
[12:40] <ShorTie> or, if you want more installed configured stuff try http://nightly.raspberrypi.org/nightlyimages-v2/
[12:40] <shiftplusone> aside from countless third party installers which can be used, there's also that ^
[12:41] <shiftplusone> ignore the last build, it failed because there was not enough disk space.
[12:41] <Megaf> the my pi os is cool
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[12:41] <shiftplusone> I need to clear out old images every week =(
[12:41] <Megaf> I wonder why nobody told me about that when I asked about somehting like that a couple of days ago
[12:41] <ShorTie> or get bigger hdd, lol.
[12:43] <shiftplusone> it's on a server owned by mythic beasts (the company that hosts all the pi stuff), so I don't get much of a say in the specs.
[12:43] <ShorTie> imho, couple nice utilities there if i do say so myself, lol.
[12:44] <ShorTie> then make a script that builds it to delete the oldest to make room for the newset
[12:44] <ShorTie> sortta like a FIFO thingy
[12:44] <shiftplusone> well, I seem to have deleted all the images instead of keeping a good one. Ah well, new build tonight anyway.
[12:44] <Megaf> by the way, I benchmarked the RPis Model B rev 1 and RPi 2, compiling a piece of software. And the RPi 2 was quicker when using Debian Wheezy ARMv6 than using Debian Jessie ARMv7. Any obvios explanation for that?
[12:45] <Megaf> IMHO GCC and tools compiles for ARMv7 should perform better than tools compield for ARMv6
[12:45] <Megaf> compiled*
[12:45] <shiftplusone> ShorTie: yeah, that's the plan. plugwash already had a similar thing to keep an image from every month, the last x weeks and the last x days. His images took up a lot less space, so I'd need to rework it a bit.
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[12:47] <shiftplusone> Megaf: yeah, we've optimized all the things for the pi. There's no difference in performance between armv6 and armv7, but you lose all the pi-specific optimizations by using the debian repo without the raspberrypi.org repo (and the two aren't really designed to be compatible... though they probably are)
[12:48] <shiftplusone> (NEON makes a huge difference, but that aren't many things that use it and we can recompile some of those things with runtime NEON detection anyway)
[12:49] <Megaf> Ok, so Raspbian is indeed more optimized than stock Debian ARMv7
[12:49] <Megaf> that explains why it was faster despite the v7 compilation
[12:49] <ShorTie> oh ya, it's got all the pi special sauce built in
[12:50] <shiftplusone> raspbian is mostly a straight recompile of debian armhf but for armv6 instead of armv7.
[12:50] <shiftplusone> so stock raspbian and stock debian have pretty much identical performance
[12:50] * Megaf googles for NEON on Pi (might find some bright things, got it? neon, bright, uh?)
[12:50] <shiftplusone> then the raspberry pi foundation adds their own stuff on top, which is where the speed boosts comes from)
[12:51] <shiftplusone> =|
[12:51] <Froolap> yeah some neon lamps would look cool in my clear pi case.
[12:51] <shiftplusone> or some neon tubes underneath the bodykit
[12:52] <leio> where's that list again of things that it adds on top?
[12:53] <shiftplusone> have fun http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian/dists/wheezy/main/binary-armhf/Packages
[12:54] <leio> something like https://patches.ubuntu.com/g/glibc/ would be more fun
[12:54] <shiftplusone> sure would make my life easier
[12:55] <leio> and that listing is like everything under the sun
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[12:55] <leio> I doubt you add any extras on top of e.g zenity-common
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[12:55] <shiftplusone> sure, a lot of that is simple backports and dependencies of other things
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[12:56] <Megaf> full list of packages that I'm removing http://paste.debian.net/plain/211950
[12:57] <shiftplusone> some of it is stuff someone thought would be good to have a few years ago and nobody knows why it's there, which is also fun.
[12:57] <leio> would be nice to have something really graspable to get other distros have it all
[12:57] <shiftplusone> graspable? not a very googleable name.
[12:57] <leio> or there's another novel idea - upstreaming :D
[12:58] <shiftplusone> agh... I thought you meant graspable as in that's some software that would be handy >_<
[12:58] <shiftplusone> and yes, a lot of things would be nice.
[13:01] <shiftplusone> leio: ooh... are you the guy who was asking about the missing .pc files a while back?
[13:01] <leio> yeah
[13:02] <leio> though I don't think some of them should be named like I and collabora have due to clashes with mesa and co
[13:02] <shiftplusone> ah, excellent. Do you know if there's an issue open for it on github already?
[13:03] <leio> doesn't seem so
[13:04] <leio> userland PR#110 adds one of them though :D
[13:04] <leio> the rest is from http://wayland.freedesktop.org/raspberrypi.html
[13:06] <shiftplusone> k, I'll open an issue so that it's tracked somewhere.
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[13:06] <leio> thx, guess I should have done that long ago myself, not sure why this wasn't pushed as part of wayland work way back then
[13:07] <leio> anyone noticed issues like a diagonal corruption (kind of like stride value would be wrong for a second) at start of video playbacks via gstreamer, by any chance?
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[13:13] <shiftplusone> leio: https://github.com/raspberrypi/userland/issues/245 looks alright?
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[13:21] <leio> babbled some there; not my most understandable piece of text, need to find some coffee
[13:23] <shiftplusone> makes perfect sense and is something I was just looking into as well
[13:24] <shiftplusone> the mesa concern might not be that relevant when our own mesa implementation is standard and we no longer use the firmware opengl es stuff.
[13:24] <leio> then you get pkgconfig files from mesa anyways, I'm sure that will just work from anholts work
[13:25] <shiftplusone> ah yeah, of course.
[13:25] <leio> haven't seen any recent updates on that though
[13:26] <shiftplusone> he has been quite active in upstreaming his work and dom is working on merging things into our kernel.
[13:26] <leio> can I play tux racer yet :P
[13:27] <shiftplusone> If you do all the things here http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/VC4/ , probably.
[13:27] <leio> but in reality mostly interested in having EGLImage stuff work, and maybe some glamor love
[13:27] <shiftplusone> I haven't played around it it myself yet.
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[13:29] <shiftplusone> ooh... a 3d printer made of lego printing lego... D= https://youtu.be/6LpYUot-bZI
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[13:33] <shiftplusone> leio: do you think changing the file names makes sense? I would think that if you're overriding pkgconfig path like that, you're probably not intending to use mesa.
[13:34] <leio> I'm not really sure what's the best way
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[13:34] <leio> maybe they should clash and avoid being both present
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[13:34] <leio> there are some typedef differences that cause all sorts of havoc iirc
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[13:34] <shiftplusone> fun
[13:35] <leio> right now if people using my rpi stuff gentoo overlay have mesa installed too, they end up with gles2 stuff from rpi-userland and glx stuff from mesa and then some typedef differences make things fail building
[13:35] <Tenkawa> hi all
[13:36] <shiftplusone> Tenkawa: hey
[13:36] <leio> actually under glx I think I mean just desktop GL, not glx per se
[13:36] <Tenkawa> hey.. just got finished with Origins
[13:36] <leio> we haven't sorted all this alternatives story out really anywhere
[13:36] <Tenkawa> still need about 20 more hours sleep
[13:36] <leio> I mean gentoo arm; various other platforms have their own headers as well
[13:37] <leio> while others want khronos/mesa headers and provide their implementations
[13:37] <leio> while some others provide their own headers, but they are incompatible with standard ones, or add something on top
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[13:37] <shiftplusone> Tenkawa: DA: Origins or what? =S
[13:37] <Tenkawa> shiftplusone: origins game fair
[13:37] <shiftplusone> ah, no idea what that is.
[13:37] <Tenkawa> roleplaying and board games
[13:38] <Tenkawa> magic, shadowrun, d&d, etc
[13:38] <shiftplusone> leio: since you're most familiar with all of this and know what you want it for, it's best for you to send the PR?
[13:38] <leio> I'm really unfamiliar with GL stuff in reality, maybe someone knowing that stuff could chime in.
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[13:39] <Tenkawa> what do you want to know?
[13:39] <Tenkawa> its been a while however i had to work with opengl and mesa a bit years ago
[13:39] <shiftplusone> leio: because I'd just throw them in there so that they propagate to /opt/vc/pkgconfig
[13:40] <leio> I suppose that's improvement either way
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[13:40] <Tenkawa> btw distcc on a bunch of pi's rocks,
[13:40] <leio> especially as sadly you need custom building of applications or libs that would use that pkgconfig module anyways
[13:40] <leio> due to all that bcm_init nonsense
[13:41] <leio> so need custom binaries building anyways, and then can build them with making pkg-config find them there
[13:42] <shiftplusone> yup
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[13:44] <Tenkawa> wow busybox compile with 3 rpi2's is fast
[13:44] <leio> try something that has a real ./configure :D
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[13:45] <shiftplusone> I've only compiled the kernel on my distcc thingy so far
[13:45] <Tenkawa> leio: configure isnt a compile and its written very serially
[13:46] <leio> exactly my point.
[13:46] <leio> it is a compile, lots of them, serially
[13:46] <Tenkawa> shiftplusone: yeah i do kernel compiles that way a lot
[13:46] <shiftplusone> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/175702/2015-03-11%2022.37.48.jpg
[13:46] <ShorTie> nice pi tree
[13:48] <shiftplusone> Yup, that's how they grow them.
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[13:50] <Tenkawa> wish this storm would decide if its going to hit here or not...
[13:50] <Tenkawa> weather forecast has changed like 20 times overnight
[13:53] <shiftplusone> Sounds like Melbourne.... everyday.
[13:54] <Tenkawa> ouch
[13:54] <Tenkawa> at least where i use to live it was predictable
[13:54] <shiftplusone> I'm in the UK now and it's fairly predictable
[13:54] <shiftplusone> Every day: miserable.
[13:54] <Tenkawa> may not like it however you knee what you were going to get
[13:55] <Tenkawa> shiftplusone: i liked it when i spent time in Guernsey
[13:55] <shiftplusone> 2 days in summer: a bit of sun
[13:55] <Tenkawa> sp?
[13:56] <Tenkawa> there and the other channel islands were very nice
[13:56] <shiftplusone> Looks interesting
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[14:26] <ambodi> Hi guys,
[14:26] <ambodi> what is this login loop issue I keep getting with raspberry pi?
[14:26] <shiftplusone> more info?
[14:26] <ambodi> I mean it happened on both raspbian and now trusty
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[14:27] <ambodi> You enter correct login and you go into a loop
[14:27] <shiftplusone> don't care about trusty, but if you can describe the issue you're facing on raspbian, maybe someone can help.
[14:27] <ambodi> first I had it with raspbian, then I formatted SD and it workd
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[14:27] <shiftplusone> yeah, that's not much to go on.
[14:28] <ambodi> shiftplusone: thanks for your input. this is a chat room, I am not talking to any individual.
[14:28] <Omnipotent> Anyone knows any streaming system that has authentication mechanism and runs on Raspbian?
[14:28] <Omnipotent> A simple authentication before starting the stream is enough.. no need of encrypting entire stream.
[14:28] <ambodi> Anybody got the same issue with trusty?
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[14:29] <ambodi> I am curious now, because it happened with two different platforms, I can't roubleshoot the issue
[14:29] <shiftplusone> good luck then
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[14:36] <c0d3z3r0> hey guys I have got some questions on the raspberrypi linux github repo. Can anyone tell me, what is the difference between rpi-3.18.y and rpi-3.18.y-rebase?
[14:36] <c0d3z3r0> What is the process of creating new branches for new version? Do they simply rebase the old version against mainline and then apply the patches to the new branch?
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[14:37] <shiftplusone> I think that's a question for popcornmix (who doesn't visit here)
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[14:41] <c0d3z3r0> shiftplusone: do you know where I can concat him?
[14:41] <c0d3z3r0> there is no mail address on github
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[14:48] <phasip> When was the raspberry pi 2 released?
[14:49] <shiftplusone> https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?q=raspberry%20pi%202%20launch%20date
[14:49] <Aranel> rcu_preempt detected stalls on CPU_tasks {} (detected by 2, t=1458587 jiffies, g=90630, c=90629) anybody seen such an error message and random hangs? It's kind of plaguing my new RasPi2 now.
[14:49] <Twanislas> phasip: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=when+was+the+raspberry+pi+2+released+%3F
[14:49] <Twanislas> :)
[14:50] <shiftplusone> I find lmgtfy unnecessarily snarky most of the time.
[14:50] <phasip> Thanks, found it on the wiki - Actually searched for "raspberry pi 2 release date" but got only articles without exact date
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[15:27] <Encapsulation> what could cause a false interrupt on an aerdunio
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[15:27] <Encapsulation> happens on vin via wallwart but not from usb via laptop
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[15:57] <McBride36> IT_Sean, this channel is a lot more friendly than that one. ops in there pm'd me to not change my name to resemble my status
[15:57] <McBride36> how do you expect to have a channel of 400+ users and not have that
[15:57] <IT_Sean> i kind of see their point. It's annoying when everyone starts doing it. Besides, that's what the /away command is for.
[15:59] <McBride36> it's not a reasonable request when you have a large channel, my opinion at least
[15:59] <McBride36> plus you can configure clients to ignore those sorts of things
[15:59] <TheLostAdmin> Is there an /on_phone and /getting_coffee option too?
[16:00] <McBride36> /away reason i believe, depending on client
[16:00] <IT_Sean> yeah, you can do /away phone
[16:01] <TheLostAdmin> Okay. That works. what's the opposite of /away?
[16:01] <JK-47> away again. being away from away is a back. or like the absolute value of |here|
[16:02] <McBride36> i use /back, dunno about you
[16:03] <ozzzylaptop> I tell my client to ignore all the /join /part /away /back stuff
[16:04] <McBride36> ^ a reasonable solution
[16:04] <McBride36> i've got that ignored for this channel, not so for smaller channels i'm in
[16:04] <ozzzylaptop> the userlist shows when someone is marked away so I don't need to see the text
[16:05] <ozzzylaptop> [shrug]
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[16:06] <McBride36> either way, i like this channel more anyways, more fun and interesting
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[16:07] <TheLostAdmin> You should try the ##6502 channel. They are nice and relaxed in there. Practically sleeping.
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[16:09] <shiftplusone> besides, nobody cares why you're away.
[16:09] <ozzzylaptop> that's because 6502 programmers are all 95 years old +
[16:09] <H__> ;-)
[16:09] <shiftplusone> so anything other than /away seems a little narcissistic... "Oh, everybody must know I'm getting coffee"
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[16:09] <ozzzylaptop> they hang out with 6809 programmers at the old folks home and talk about the good old days
[16:10] <awoserra> like conservatives getting drunk and talking about corporate tax cuts till very late at night
[16:10] <awoserra> heheheh
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[16:17] <Xeon3D> can anyone suggest a nice and cheap working hdmi -> vga converter for the Pi 2?
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[16:18] <shiftplusone> nice, cheap and working? pick 2, I guess.
[16:18] <JK-47> i use a cablematters active hdmi to vga
[16:19] <JK-47> $14 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007SM7O2U
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[16:20] <JK-47> then i put it into a vga to usb crashcart adapter. heres a screencap of my lapto view https://twitter.com/JK47theweapon/status/605836638665596928
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[16:21] <Xeon3D> JK-47: why not a simple ssh/vnc
[16:21] <Xeon3D> :D
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[16:22] <JK-47> Xeon3D: cant see install or fix non networking stuff w/ vnc/ssh
[16:22] <Xeon3D> serial?
[16:22] <Xeon3D> :D
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[16:23] <JK-47> easy this way. just plug in hdmi.
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[16:26] <JK-47> picked up some smartypi cases too recently. they are cool, though overpriced.
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[16:29] <Xeon3D> everthing rpi is overpriced, minus the rpi itself
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[16:30] <factor> I just 3D print my cases.
[16:31] <jer> factor, so, buy a $1000 3d printer, and supplies, just to save a few bucks on printing a $25 case =]
[16:31] <factor> $400 3d printer.
[16:31] <jer> ok
[16:31] <IT_Sean> jer's point still stands.
[16:31] <JK-47> overall $50/unit is cheaper than other motion sensing, automated, security cameras
[16:31] <factor> We have a fab lab here in town so cost 25$ for two months
[16:31] <jer> so you bought a $400 3d printer and supplies, just to save a few bucks on printing a $25 case?
[16:32] <factor> printed cases like hot cakes.
[16:32] * jer is mostly being facetious =] if i've got the equipment, then great.
[16:32] <jer> most people don't though
[16:33] <McBride36> how difficult would it be to make a 3d printer using a pi
[16:33] <factor> well you use arduino for the 3d printer.
[16:34] <factor> You can hook a pi up to the for loading the STL files and editoing them and viewing
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[16:34] <factor> arduinos have the real time stuff by nature. pis are multi tasking by nature
[16:35] <temmi_hoo> printing other than printer parts on the printer is strictly forbidden
[16:35] <factor> Linux does have real time kernels though
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[16:36] <McBride36> i mean like writing the software for controlling the hardware, assembling the parts/printer would be easy enough
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[16:37] <factor> http://twitpic.com/dtt2kp
[16:38] <factor> misspelled hash tag but oh well :)
[16:40] <ozzzylaptop> when people use that term I correct them by saying 'it's an octothorpe'... then watch them go blank
[16:40] <jer> which is kinda a funny name when you think about it
[16:40] <jer> as thorpe is + right; and # has at most, 4 +'s arranged... but, "octo" means 8.
[16:41] <JK-47> the problem with RPi… is the people who use them. And their obnoxious attitudes.
[16:41] <ozzzylaptop> ain't english wunnerful
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[16:42] <ozzzylaptop> In cartography, [the octothorp] is a traditional symbol for village: eight fields around a central square.
[16:42] <shiftplusone> JK-47: that's a fairly broad brush you've got there.
[16:43] <JK-47> It's been well demonstrated here this morning.
[16:44] <shiftplusone> yup... whatever you're referring to is clearly representative of pi owners as a whole.
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[20:22] <Xeon3D> I have a Realtek USB Wifi Adapter that isn't seen by Raspbian (not even in lsusb) but Pidora has no issues with it. Thoughts?
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[20:28] <mockie> My guess is firmware/driver.
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[20:29] <mockie> Have you checked the output of dmesg?
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[21:15] <Encapsulation> Xeon3D stop fl00ding
[21:16] <Encapsulation> which wifi adapter?
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[21:16] <Encrypt> Too late :S
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[21:16] <Encrypt> <Encapsulation> Xeon3D stop fl00ding
[21:16] <Encrypt> <Encapsulation> which wifi adapter?
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[21:30] <Xeon3D> erm tbh I dunno what happened
[21:31] <Xeon3D> TL-WN725N
[21:33] <Xeon3D> TL-WN725N v2. Based on the Realtek RTL8188EUS chipset. Works out of the box on Rasbmc KODI 2014.12.25. Raspbian 3.18.xx+ includes a driver, but needs a separate firmware file downloading and installing. Earlier kernels need manual driver installation (simple version) and manual update after an upgrade.
[21:33] <Xeon3D> I'm guessing this is why
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[21:52] <awoserra> no interrupt logic in freebsd gpioctl
[21:52] <awoserra> gotta poll, or use linux
[21:52] <awoserra> :/
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[21:56] <mockie> Xeon3D, sounds like you're on the right track!
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[21:57] <ahop> Is HDMI audio out 100% digital?
[21:58] <ahop> ie impossible to connect it to headphones?
[21:59] <ShorTie> need an amp to hear any thing
[21:59] <ahop> ShorTie oh is it analog then?
[22:00] <Ryccardo> afaik, it's digital
[22:00] <ahop> ok so an amp won't work at all, if the output is just 0 and 1s
[22:00] <Ryccardo> you need a pcm/dolby/ac3/whatever decoder
[22:01] <ahop> ok
[22:01] <Ryccardo> it will work, but you won't appreciate the result :)
[22:01] <ahop> yes :):
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[22:01] <Ryccardo> he probably meant those surround amps you plug in your tv and everything in
[22:02] <mockie> A receiver? =)
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[22:04] <mockie> I'm using the analog audio out in conjunction with HDMI (video only) because my receiver is pre-HDMI.
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[22:18] <wanda_> hullo, 17th june VoIP open source fan organize a meeting with Mumble to speak about Asterisk et VoIP open source http://barcamp.org/w/page/97007235/BarCampMumble-VoIP-OpenSource
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[22:18] <Captain_Crow> whats the terminal command to check drives?
[22:19] <wanda_> you are welcome, we will speak about RaspberryPi2 and XiVO = http://raspivo.io/
[22:19] <wanda_> https://twitter.com/v_dagrain/status/606483428402429952 the news in english :D
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[22:19] <wanda_> thanks by advance - message over
[22:20] <Ryccardo> Captain_Crow: unmount or mount it readonly, then `fsck /dev/?????`
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[22:21] <Captain_Crow> i ment the command that lists drive names
[22:21] <Captain_Crow> it was like 5 letters long
[22:21] <Ryccardo> ah, you can use `blkid`
[22:21] <ahop> Ryccardo: I'm sure you have a ready-to-use circuit for this: http://www.samplerbox.org/article/helpwanted :)
[22:21] <Ryccardo> or, for an easier to read way, `cat /proc/partitions`
[22:22] <Ryccardo> ahop: well, I have a mono amplifier that runs on 2 AAs :)
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[22:23] <Captain_Crow> i tried blkid and nothing happened
[22:23] <ahop> Ryccardo: the tricky part is the charging / switch between battery and charger if you plug the charger, etc.
[22:24] <Ryccardo> Captain_Crow: command not found? it's in one of the sbin folders, which stupidly are only in superuser's path by default
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[22:25] <Captain_Crow> it worked with sudo, but it wasnt the one i used the other day
[22:26] <Captain_Crow> it had a partition tree and stuff
[22:26] <Ryccardo> ahop: giant capacitor on [gpio] +5 power, or maybe look up how the Pi-in-gameboy-pocket project did it
[22:26] <Ryccardo> hmmm... `fdisk -l` ?
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[22:30] <ahop> Ryccardo: yes but what circuit to put such that when charger is plugged, it will charge the 18650?
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[22:31] <Captain_Crow> i found it online, was lsblk
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[22:32] <Ryccardo> you leave the charger circuit always connected to the battery, and so will the one that connects the battery to the Pi
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[22:33] <Captain_Crow> does the pi work with "HC" sd cards?
[22:34] <Captain_Crow> i have a 32gb sd card, but it says "hc"
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[22:35] <Froolap> I have 32 gig hc cards I use in my pi
[22:36] <Froolap> hc is just high capacity.....
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[22:39] <Captain_Crow> the install command is "sudo dd bs=4M if=/path/ of=/dev/ && sync" ?
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[22:56] <ahop> ShorTie btw, is there a trick to enable wifi with your my_pi_os.sh?
[22:56] <ahop> I added wlan0 etc. to /etc/network/interfaces, but did not work :(
[22:57] <ahop> But this wifi dongle worked in the past... So I wondered if there is a trick for Wifi dongles with your my_pi_os.sh
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[22:59] <ShorTie> never used it with/for wifi
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[23:00] <ShorTie> i guess you could just get a working setup, then put that info in
[23:01] <Froolap> install the drivers.
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[23:03] <Ryccardo> Captain_Crow: put the appropriate disk after /dev/ of course
[23:05] <Captain_Crow> i tried it and nothing seems to be happening
[23:05] <Captain_Crow> shouldn't the sudo have caused it to ask for a pass?
[23:05] <Ryccardo> that can be configured, by default it only asks every 5 minutes or so
[23:06] <Ryccardo> you use Mac OS, right?
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[23:07] <Ryccardo> I remember its dd not liking megabytes in bs, but it should complain then
[23:09] <Captain_Crow> i have linux mint
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[23:11] <shauno> dd in OS X will take megabytes, just bsd and gnu dd disagree over the case. It's bs=1m on one and =1M on the other
[23:11] <Froolap> is that like breath mint?
[23:11] <Ryccardo> `sudo dd if=/home/path/to/img of=/dev/sd? bs=4M`
[23:11] <Ryccardo> (and be sure to change the "?" :) )
[23:12] <Froolap> naw over write all drives for extra excitement.
[23:13] <Ryccardo> don't think dd likes multiple arguments
[23:13] <Froolap> ? is a valid wild card
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[23:32] <Captain_Crow> do i need "sudo" before "dd"?
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[23:33] <ShorTie> unless you are root
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[23:50] <Captain_Crow> can i just use any image writer for raspbian?
[23:50] <ShorTie> can always try
[23:51] <Captain_Crow> nvm, it didnt work
[23:51] <Captain_Crow> got to 1% then had an error
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[23:51] <ShorTie> what seems to be the problem if i can ask ??
[23:52] <nickinchuggets> has anyone seen this raspberry pi kit that looks like an old nintendo? https://www.beast3d.com/pitendo_ultimate
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[23:56] <Ryccardo> 120 dolluhs for a filled case?
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[23:57] <nickinchuggets> well it comes with everything
[23:57] <Captain_Crow> does the sd need to be formated with a partition before using dd or just leave it blank?
[23:58] <nickinchuggets> Captain_Crow: no need to format, the dd process does that for you
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[23:58] <nickinchuggets> Ryccardo: are you seeing the list of things it includes?
[23:58] <ShorTie> blank should be fine because the writing of an image creates the partitions, that is <32g sdcard
[23:59] <ShorTie> ta, the emptying of 120 bucks from the wallet, lol.
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