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IRC Log for 2015-06-09

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[0:00] <Ryccardo> nickinchuggets: pi2: Italian street price 47 € + 5 € hdmi cable + 7 € power brick + 18 € 16GB card = 77 €, I don't know the specific controller but I've seen some for 10 €
[0:01] <nickinchuggets> and the case is 3d printed, so time of printer + cost of plastic + cost of vinyl + cost of other post processing
[0:01] <ShorTie> to me, all i see is a fancy 3d printed case, the rest is not his
[0:01] <nickinchuggets> i think it's a fair price
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[0:02] <ShorTie> that is all that matters really
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[0:03] <ShorTie> and you like it
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[0:05] <nickinchuggets> the case is sold by itself for $29
[0:05] <nickinchuggets> hmmm....
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[0:07] <ShorTie> seems kinda high for a case, but then again i bolt my pi's to a piece of 3" channel .. :/~
[0:08] <nickinchuggets> 3" channel?
[0:08] <nickinchuggets> of what
[0:08] <ShorTie> gives them some wieght, lol.
[0:08] <Ryccardo> I made mine for about 8 € of materials, but it's still unfinished
[0:08] <nickinchuggets> aluminum?
[0:08] <ShorTie> steel, cold roll
[0:08] <nickinchuggets> lol, sheesh man
[0:09] <ShorTie> some times i splurge and paint it
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[0:09] <ShorTie> if i'm in the mood
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[0:10] <Ryccardo> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Sw6yyET9ya8/VR8dYMHajtI/AAAAAAAAIz8/gHINucW8qsU/w874-h579-no/RIK_8379.JPG
[0:11] <nickinchuggets> what do you use the rpi for?
[0:11] <ShorTie> i do have 1 in a case though, it's my movie camera
[0:11] <ShorTie> https://www.dropbox.com/s/kpe5ek17e7e4fkf/IMAG0003.JPG?dl=0
[0:12] <Ryccardo> anything goes
[0:13] <ShorTie> got 1 screwed right to the wall too...
[0:13] <ShorTie> right next to my firewall, lol.
[0:14] <nickinchuggets> i've found osmc to be incredibly useful
[0:14] <nickinchuggets> but other than that, haven't done much more with them
[0:14] <ShorTie> it just parses a web page and sends me a text about if they are gonna run my generator or not
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[0:15] <nickinchuggets> ShorTie: polls the webpage every X minutes?
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[0:17] <ShorTie> they only update it at certain times, so 5 minutes after that
[0:17] <nickinchuggets> ah ic
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[0:20] <Captain_Crow> i think its installing to the sd, but its taking a long time
[0:21] <ShorTie> raspbian image ??
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[0:21] <Captain_Crow> yea
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[0:21] <ShorTie> you doing this on like a old laptop maybe ??
[0:21] <Captain_Crow> yea
[0:22] <ShorTie> built in sdcard reader ??
[0:22] <Captain_Crow> no, through a usb one
[0:23] <ShorTie> oh, ok, cause some of those just don't work
[0:23] <ShorTie> mac right ??
[0:23] <Captain_Crow> mint
[0:23] <_X_C_V_B_> I'm getting static when I use espeak
[0:24] <ShorTie> hmmm, linux shouldn't be a problem
[0:24] <_X_C_V_B_> It was working until I installed pulseaudio
[0:24] <_X_C_V_B_> I need pulseaudio
[0:24] * Ryccardo heh :)
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[0:24] <SpeedEvil> Nobody needs pulseaudio.
[0:25] <_X_C_V_B_> what does it do
[0:25] <ShorTie> have you looked in dmesg to see if it says anything funky about the usb device ??
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[0:25] <_X_C_V_B_> I going to remove pulseaudio
[0:25] <_X_C_V_B_> what is it
[0:25] <_X_C_V_B_> what is it
[0:26] <_X_C_V_B_> now it works
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[0:26] <_X_C_V_B_> I got it working
[0:26] <AegNuddel> How many mhz is the raspi processor?
[0:26] <_X_C_V_B_> 700 b+
[0:27] <_X_C_V_B_> 900 model 2
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[0:27] <_X_C_V_B_> I don't remember the others
[0:27] <Ryccardo> _X_C_V_B_: an extra layer between alsa (or whatever other sound system you might be using) and software, I don't even remember why it was made, skype requires it, my computer works better without it anyway
[0:27] <ShorTie> that is if it is overclocked, think factory is 600mhz
[0:27] <Ryccardo> someone doesn't overclock their Pi? :)
[0:28] * ShorTie raises his hand
[0:28] <AegNuddel> I want to make a webserver
[0:28] <ShorTie> i swap sdcards around to much
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[0:29] <ShorTie> over clocking is not compatable between rpi and rpi2
[0:29] <Captain_Crow> its been over a half hour and its still writing raspbian to the sd card
[0:29] <Ryccardo> someone ran an http server on a C64, I vaguely remember
[0:30] <AegNuddel> o.o
[0:30] <ShorTie> sounds like sumfin is wrong Captain_Crow
[0:30] <Ryccardo> maybe it's usb1?
[0:30] <ShorTie> 5 minutes maybe is all
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[0:32] <ShorTie> hmmm, this is a 32gig sdcard ??
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[0:33] <Captain_Crow> yea
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[0:33] <ShorTie> some of those need the format changed up because they are formatted exfat
[0:34] <ShorTie> what does 'fdisk -l' say about it ??
[0:34] <Captain_Crow> i removed the format in gparted
[0:34] <ShorTie> gpart, blaaa, it snucks imho
[0:36] <ShorTie> i've seen it mess too many things up is all
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[0:37] <ShorTie> [18:35:15] <ShorTie> what does 'fdisk -l' say about it ?? ??
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[0:39] <Berg> hello world???
[0:40] <[Saint]> ShorTie: nah - the standard is enforced for 64GB+ - which must be formatted as exFAT direct from the OEM.
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[0:40] <ShorTie> ok, if your sure
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[0:46] <Captain_Crow> brb
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[0:59] <BobTheAngryCat> so how has the arch release to rpi been modified to work with the rpi?
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[1:00] <ShorTie> it boots
[1:01] <ShorTie> not sure about all the special sauce that raspbian has in it is in it
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[1:02] <Ryccardo> BobTheAngryCat: basically, packages are recompiled for arm6 + appropriat hardfloat mode (arch doesn't have an official arm port at all, many other distros have either arm6 soft float or arm7 hard float, neither of which are ideal for Pi1)
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[1:05] <chithead> even for the pi 2, some distros use vfpv3-d16 which leaves half the fp registers unused
[1:05] <chithead> not sure if this is the case with arch
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[1:10] <jer> Ryccardo, btw, not to be pedantic, but ARM7 == ARMv3; Raspberry Pi 2, is ARMv7
[1:11] <jer> ARM6 is ARMv3 too, whereas, original Raspberry Pi is ARMv6
[1:11] <jer> aka, ARM11 =]
[1:11] <Ryccardo> will be useful to know for porting Linux to the GBA ;)
[1:12] <ShorTie> as like a side note: The Foundation spends alot of time, money and effort optimizing raspbian for the pi, which nobody else does really
[1:13] <BobTheAngryCat> Ryccardo: "hardfloat mode"?
[1:13] <Captain_Crow> is the raspbian image supposed to be 3.3gb?
[1:13] <Ryccardo> BobTheAngryCat: basically, whether calculation with decimals are hardware accelerated or done with integer operations + overhead
[1:14] <ShorTie> most of the old design team of the SoC works at the foundation now, since Broadcom has shut it down, so how better would know how to optimize it
[1:14] <BobTheAngryCat> so why won't broadcom release documentation for the GPU?
[1:14] <BobTheAngryCat> its ABI
[1:14] <BobTheAngryCat> or whatever it is that's so secret
[1:14] <ShorTie> it's there perogative
[1:14] <Ryccardo> they fear someone will clone it for cheaper, and believe their fear is more important than users' freedom
[1:14] <Ryccardo> Broadcom has almost always been like so
[1:15] <ShorTie> they can do what they want with it
[1:15] <Ryccardo> the real question is why someone hasn't leaked it on freenet or such, lol
[1:16] <BobTheAngryCat> they're a company, they have to make a living :P
[1:16] <ShorTie> the pi community is lucky they have got what they got
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[1:16] <ShorTie> ever here of a law suit of NDA's ??
[1:17] <Ryccardo> ShorTie: from China to a random minor country, wondering how that'll work -- and that's why it would be done anonymously anyway
[1:18] <ShorTie> when only a hand full of peeps have the info, wouldn't be hard to track down who did it
[1:19] <ShorTie> they would effect there job carriers for ever for not falling the NDA
[1:19] <BobTheAngryCat> who's maintaining the rpi software (linux etc)? Companies, a volunteering FOSS community?
[1:20] <ShorTie> the foundation maintains raspbian optimation, the rest is just a recompile to armv6 because Debian doesn't offer armv6
[1:21] <ShorTie> which plugwash maintains
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[1:24] <BobTheAngryCat> plugwash?
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[1:25] <ShorTie> don't know his real name, that is what he goes by here though
[1:25] <k_j> are the foundation rich?
[1:26] <ShorTie> depends on how many pi's you buy, lol.
[1:26] <k_j> they made a lot of money
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[1:31] <BobTheAngryCat> so.. if not linux, what do you do with the rpi?
[1:32] <Ryccardo> there's a BSD port, and allegedly an Android one (but it's way incomplete, and it's still Linux anyway!)
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[1:33] <ShorTie> you could do assembly on it i guess
[1:33] <Ryccardo> Pi 2 also has the embedded version of windows 10, little to do with the PC version
[1:34] <ShorTie> although it is used for other things, the pi's main purpose is a learning toy
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[1:35] <BobTheAngryCat> ShorTie: as in... putting some rpi machine code on the SD-card starting at its memory element 0?
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[1:37] <Ryccardo> basically, yes
[1:37] <BobTheAngryCat> sounds like fun
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[1:38] <Ryccardo> (the Pi's design is quite original, though: at boot, it's the gpu that loads firmware from the first fat32 partition on sd, then that firmware loads a kernel and starts the cpu, which is a relatively minor part of the chip)
[1:38] <Captain_Crow> i tried to move the 3.3gb raspbian image file onto a usb and it said it would take 2 hours to copy it
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[1:40] <Ryccardo> Captain_Crow: maybe you simply have usb1?
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[1:40] <Captain_Crow> how do i check?
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[1:41] <Ryccardo> lsusb, you should see "linux foundation {1.1 or 2.0} host controller" or something close
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[1:42] <Ryccardo> of course you may have both, in which case the slow one may only be for integrated keyboard/infrared/etc or may represent some external ports
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[1:45] <Captain_Crow> looks like its 2.0
[1:46] <Captain_Crow> would the processor speed affect it?
[1:46] <Ryccardo> with usb, yes (the Pi is strong proof of this!)
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[2:34] <Berg> and im back
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[2:39] <k_j> Berg, welcome back
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[2:40] <Berg> feel t5he love
[2:40] <Berg> i was just looking at my wind gen and on every rotation it has one spot that has a spike
[2:41] <Berg> i must have the phases connected wrong or something
[2:41] <Berg> <---not real cluey on that biut
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[2:50] <fred1807> can I go without a swap file?
[2:50] <Berg> i just deleted mine by ac cident on this pc it still worked
[2:50] <Berg> i replaced it though
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[2:54] <[Saint]> fred1807: sure
[2:54] <[Saint]> Though on the raspi you almost certainly do want a swapfile.
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[2:54] <plugwash> in a shell script can anyone suggest a good way of generating a debian archive style prefixed path
[2:54] <plugwash> e.g. foo -> f/foo but libfoo -> libf/libfoo
[2:55] <[Saint]> sed|cat /dev/urandom
[2:55] <[Saint]> eventually it'll work
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[2:56] <[Saint]> ...sorry.
[2:56] * [Saint] goes back in his hole.
[2:56] * Berg looks in the hyole?
[2:56] <Berg> holed
[2:56] <Berg> hol
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[2:58] <fred1807> how much lifetime is your sd cards lasting ?
[2:58] <fred1807> having
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[2:59] <warpie> they should last a long time if treated well... plug in once and leave alone should last you many years
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[3:02] <fred1807> warpie: Even if I use it for music too, and upload some 10 new musics every day?
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[3:04] <warpie> I'd use an external hard drive or a thumb drive for that... the SD card should be left alone for the pi's system and apps...
[3:04] <fred1807> yes, that would be the best scenario
[3:05] <fred1807> so, If I keep adding mp3 to my 32gb card.. it may die soon, right?
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[3:05] <warpie> yes it may crash
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[3:09] <warpie> I would get the stuff off that SD card asap
[3:09] <fred1807> it is like that?
[3:10] <fred1807> are cell phones like samsung using sd cards a lot?
[3:10] <warpie> or put in a smaller SD card like an eight gb one for system...
[3:10] <warpie> yes
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[3:11] <fred1807> fact is sd card make it a small package
[3:11] <fred1807> a pendrive is another thing to carry on, lost, forget
[3:11] <warpie> true.
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[3:12] <warpie> use a hard drive, can be a SSD one, they are cheaper now...
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[3:13] <warpie> you can use those portable hard drives... those are nice
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[3:13] <fred1807> I am paying 11usd for a 32gb sd card
[3:13] <warpie> they fit in pocket.
[3:13] <warpie> that's nice price
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[3:13] <fred1807> I just want to know how long will it last
[3:14] <fred1807> writing some mp3 every day
[3:14] <fred1807> *wonder
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[3:14] <warpie> depends on how hard you use it.. and yes they do wear out
[3:14] <fred1807> if they last 2 years
[3:15] <fred1807> that is ok
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[3:15] <warpie> I've got SD cards for over 2 yrs now and not a blip of problems.. but I don't do the mp3 stuff on them
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[3:18] <warpie> usb drives are more logical due to plugging/unplugging frequently and the SD card's port is very fragile...
[3:19] <warpie> you can use an adapter of SD cards to USB and that will make the task nicer..
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[3:21] <fred1807> the /boot directory I see on my raspberry is the same boot partition my mac mounts ?
[3:23] <warpie> that I do not know... that's beyond me... saint or plugwash or niston may have that ans for you..
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[3:23] <warpie> I don't own Macs...
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[3:28] <fred1807> the /boot directory is a partition? (fat32)
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[3:29] <warpie> If I ever was to own a Mac it would be transformed to a Linux puter... yes
[3:30] <[Saint]> fred1807: you absolutely do not need to worry about how much you write to an sdcard.
[3:30] <[Saint]> each block is rated for thousands and thousands of writes.
[3:30] <fred1807> now that is good news
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[3:31] <[Saint]> you could zero-fill the card 24/7 for years
[3:31] <fred1807> hey saint
[3:31] <fred1807> this /boot directory
[3:32] <fred1807> is the same I see mounted on mac?
[3:32] <fred1807> i am pretty sure it is...
[3:32] <[Saint]> I'm sorry...what? I don't understand the question you are asking.
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[3:34] <fred1807> on raspbian
[3:34] <fred1807> there is a folder
[3:34] <fred1807> /boot
[3:34] <fred1807> when I plug my sd card to a reader, on mac machine
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[3:35] <fred1807> it mounts a partition "boot" with some files inside, like config.txt, etc
[3:35] <fred1807> so I guess /boot is a fat32 partition
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[3:37] <[Saint]> Yes, it is a FAT32 partition. Indeed.
[3:37] <[Saint]> This is a silly requirement of the SoC.
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[3:40] * [Saint] had to clean up after and do data recovery for one of his idiot clients today
[3:40] <[Saint]> So frustrating.
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[3:41] <[Saint]> I have told them, and even tried to enforce via some fairly aggressive prompting during setup, time and time again, to backup passphrases and unwrapped encryption keys securely.
[3:41] <[Saint]> I have lost count of how many times I have tried to bang that into their heads.
[3:42] <[Saint]> Yet 90% of them don't do it at all.
[3:42] <[Saint]> 1% do it correctly, and the other 9% choose to use the encrypted disk itself to store the "backup" copy of the login and encryption passphrases.
[3:43] <[Saint]> ...totally defeating the purpose.
[3:43] <[Saint]> TL;DR: idiots.
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[3:55] <warpie> yup I feel ya, saint... ppl are a funny species
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[3:58] <Captain_Crow> i installed raspbian on an sd card, the pi's red light is on, but i dont see a green light and my monitor says no signal
[4:00] <warpie> what did you use to install the os on the SD card?
[4:00] <Captain_Crow> dd
[4:01] <warpie> hmmm.. I don't know that process...
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[4:02] <warpie> I did mine on a win puter using diskimgr
[4:02] <warpie> but you have to unzip the download first then install the OS
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[4:03] <warpie> kinda like the Linux ISO's
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[4:04] <Captain_Crow> i was following these instructions https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/installation/installing-images/linux.md
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[4:06] <Travis> I have just tried to install Ubuntu MATE for the Pi 2. It freezes up on me.
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[4:06] <warpie> ok I would redo it just incase something got messed up.
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[4:07] <Travis> I have.
[4:07] <Travis> This is the second time.
[4:07] <warpie> Travis: that's a bit heavy of an OS for the pi... maybe try a light ubuntu on it..
[4:07] <Travis> https://ubuntu-mate.org/raspberry-pi/
[4:08] <warpie> ahh.. lol... I have not done that but some ppl succeeded..
[4:08] <warpie> may have to tweak it a bit
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[4:18] <Captain_Crow> it looks like its not writing the root partition correctly
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[4:19] <warpie> could be.. you have a win puter?
[4:19] <warpie> that will work good if you have one..
[4:20] <Travis> That's what I used.
[4:20] <warpie> ahh.. ok did you use diskimgr?
[4:20] <Travis> no
[4:20] <warpie> ok min...
[4:21] <Travis> WinDisk32
[4:21] <Travis> oooh maybe that is it.
[4:21] <Travis> Win32DiskImager or something like that
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[4:22] <warpie> http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/
[4:22] <warpie> that's the one I used.. if you do it correctly it's foolproof
[4:22] <Travis> I used that.
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[4:23] <warpie> try different SD card
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[4:23] <Travis> I dont' have another but the Samsung card I have.
[4:23] <Travis> It works with Raspbian quite well.
[4:23] <warpie> and pi's PSU is important too
[4:23] <warpie> cool
[4:23] <warpie> use it
[4:23] <Travis> I have the one that MCM sells with their kit.
[4:24] <warpie> yuk
[4:24] <Travis> I don't like Raspbian, hence why I am experimenting.
[4:24] <warpie> I love it.. it's like using Debian
[4:24] <Travis> The PSU I have says it spits out 2.2A
[4:24] <warpie> you can always change the DE
[4:25] <warpie> have you checked the voltage?
[4:25] <Travis> I don't have a way to check a mini USB plug's voltage.
[4:26] <Travis> Let me try the one Radio Shack put in its kit.
[4:26] <Travis> I haven't tried it yet.
[4:26] <warpie> you want no less than 5.0V, no more than 5.2V.. there are test points on the pi, do it very carefully without touching anything else.
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[4:27] <warpie> that one from RS is Adafruit's PSU, and is a good one
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[4:27] <Travis> Monoprice?
[4:28] <Travis> The one MCM includes is fine for Raspbian. I wonder how that makes a difference.
[4:28] <warpie> don't know that name.. sorry
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[4:28] <warpie> never know
[4:29] <warpie> I have never had probs with Adafruit's PSUs....
[4:29] <warpie> brb
[4:29] <Travis> Only one way to find out.
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[4:30] <lambdumb> something happened with raspbian jessie and i can't sudo
[4:31] <lambdumb> "sudo: /usr/bin/sudo must be owned by uid 0 and have the setuid bit set"
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[4:35] <Captain_Crow> it started to boot up, then quits
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[4:38] <warpie> Captain_Crow: sounds like a power issue
[4:38] <warpie> lambdumb: I don't know about that... saint may know
[4:40] <Captain_Crow> i tried with a different power source, did the same thing
[4:40] <warpie> oh boy.. I hope it's not bricked.
[4:40] <warpie> I'd try another SD card
[4:41] <Captain_Crow> this is another sd card
[4:41] <Captain_Crow> i just bought this one cause the last one didnt work, atleast this one gets to the boot screen
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[4:42] <Captain_Crow> should i try something other than dd?
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[4:42] <warpie> well I can't see what's going on... so hard for me to analysis the problem
[4:42] <warpie> yes, I would
[4:43] <warpie> I never had any problems with SD imaging on all six of my pi's.
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[4:44] <Travis> I do have another card. I am trying it.
[4:44] <warpie> ok
[4:44] <Travis> This sucks.
[4:44] <keyman007> I just received my model 2 today and I set up networking on wlan0. I wanted a specific IP address for a specifc SSID and it works. However, my PI still initially requests a DHCP address and one is assigned until the boot process completes and I get my static.
[4:44] <Travis> Maybe it's not a bad card, but just that the OS is being picky.
[4:45] <Travis> bingo. Got a frozen execution command on a Samsung card.
[4:45] <keyman007> How do I stop it from getting (and wasting) that initial DHCP address?
[4:46] <warpie> Travis: congrats
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[4:49] <warpie> keyman007: will this help you? https://www.raspberrypi.org/learning/networking-lessons/lesson-3/README.md
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[4:49] <keyman007> That is an article how to set up a DHCP server.
[4:50] <warpie> ahh, sorry
[4:50] <keyman007> I am trying to stop wlan0 from getting an IP from the DHCP server without stopping the dhcp client alltogether.
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[4:51] <warpie> http://www.networkworld.com/article/2225683/cisco-subnet/raspberry-pi-as-a-network-monitoring-node.html
[4:53] <warpie> about halfway down that webpage
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[4:55] <domino14> i gave my Pi a fixed address, something like 192.168.1.70 and now i changed routers and my new subnet is 10.0.0.x
[4:55] <domino14> is there any way i can SSH into my raspberry pi now?
[4:55] <domino14> without having to plug it into a display
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[4:56] <warpie> me don't know about that, saint or plugwash would know
[4:56] <n3ob> Reconfigure your PC to a fixed 192.168xxxxx network and connect pier to pier.
[4:56] <keyman007> domino14, you would have to change the ip address of the SSH client device to match the network of the pi.
[4:56] <plugwash> domino14, set a computer to a static IP in the same subnet as the pi
[4:56] <Berg> cvheck your ip and ssh in
[4:56] <Berg> i think yo9u should be ok
[4:56] <plugwash> and then you can ssh in and change the network configuration
[4:57] <warpie> ty
[4:58] <domino14> how do i change my computer to a static ip that is not in the subnet of my router
[4:59] <Berg> your pi should me in your routyer IP
[4:59] <Berg> so its go 192 etc
[4:59] <domino14> it's not, my router ip subnet has changed
[4:59] <domino14> it's 10.0.0.x and it used to be 192.168.1.x
[4:59] <plugwash> domino14, how you set the IP on your computer depends on your OS
[4:59] <keyman007> domino14, you can change your ip to what ever you want. You won't be able to go through the router with a 192 address but you can connect to the pi to fix it....
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[5:00] <keyman007> then change your computer's ip back to the same subnet of the router
[5:00] <domino14> i can still connect to the pi through my router if i'm not in the same subnet?
[5:00] <keyman007> You won't go through your router.
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[5:00] <domino14> i'd have to right? i'm not connected directly to my pi
[5:00] <keyman007> You will be going through the "swtich" portion of the router.
[5:00] <domino14> my pi is connected thru the router
[5:00] <domino14> hmmm
[5:00] <keyman007> Your router is a consumer device yes?
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[5:01] <keyman007> maybe 4 port switch and a wan/internet port?
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[5:04] <Travis> Holy smokes. It is the card.
[5:04] <Travis> My HP 16GB card is working better than the Samsung.
[5:04] <warpie> yup figured it would be
[5:05] <Travis> Why is Ubuntu that picky?
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[5:05] <Travis> I can run almost any of the OS distros on the Pi site, but the Ubuntu based ones, on my Samsung card.
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[5:05] <warpie> dunno.. it is a huge OS..
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[5:15] <domino14_> yes it's a consumer device. what do i set te subnet and router IP to?
[5:15] <domino14_> :(
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[5:16] <keyman007> your subnet is most likely 255.255.255.0 leave router field empty (your don't need router ip, you're not going to use routing)
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[5:17] <keyman007> before you do this.... you are certain that you know the static IP you configured your pi to have?
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[5:23] <domino14_> keyman007: pretty sure
[5:23] <domino14_> it's either 192.168.0.70 or .1.70
[5:23] <domino14_> i'll try changing my subnet to either
[5:23] <domino14_> test
[5:23] <Captain_Crow> what does changing the block size to 1M do?
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[5:24] <keyman007> yea... it will work if both your devices are connected to the switch ports of your router.
[5:24] <keyman007> Even though you won't be using the "routing" portion of the device.
[5:26] <Travis> Let's see how this works.
[5:26] <Travis> I am on my Pi now. Yay!
[5:27] <Captain_Crow> if i have a 32gb card should i set the block size to 4M or 1M?
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[5:28] <domino14> it worked! thanks!
[5:29] <keyman007> you're welcome
[5:29] <domino14> my raspberry pi seems pretty slow to SSH into though, for some reason. although when i connect it's fast enough
[5:29] <Captain_Crow> how do i know what block size i need?
[5:29] <domino14> this is the very first raspberry pi. is the new one much faster?
[5:29] <keyman007> Captain_Crow you will be fine with 1M
[5:29] <warpie> Captain_Crow: I really do not know that, but use 4 and see what it does
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[5:30] <Captain_Crow> what it do?
[5:30] <Captain_Crow> is it like the write speed or something?
[5:30] <keyman007> domino14, when you say slow, do you just mean that it was slow to respond after you entered your username and waited for the password prompt?
[5:30] <keyman007> Then it was fine after you entered your password?
[5:31] <domino14> keyman007: i set up public key, so it's slow whne i do ssh pi@ip-address, it takes a while for it to log me in
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[5:31] <domino14> but once i'm logged in it seems decently fast
[5:31] <fred1807> anyone knows how to set a bootsplash image... but for real.. from the very beginning, like the raspberry logo on top left
[5:31] <keyman007> Then it's most likely related to DNS.
[5:31] <warpie> Captain_Crow: dunno, google it and see...
[5:31] <domino14> is there an update i can do to the raspbian from within the prompt, like apt-get upgrade or something?
[5:32] <keyman007> domino14, yes that works.... apt-get update then apt-get upgrade
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[5:32] <domino14> is raspbian still the recommended distro?
[5:32] <warpie> yes
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[5:32] <domino14> Err http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org wheezy InRelease :(
[5:32] <keyman007> Well, that totally depends on what you want to do with it LOL
[5:33] <warpie> lol
[5:33] <fred1807> domino14: https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-update
[5:33] <warpie> I use it mainly to boot the pi... lol
[5:34] <domino14> oh my raspberry pi is not connected to the internet, weird
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[5:34] <domino14> i can SSH into it but ping google.com fails
[5:34] <keyman007> Well there are other distros based on what you might want to do with the pi.... I have kali and pwnpi on a couple of sdcards.
[5:35] <keyman007> domino14, so its on the 10.x.x.x network now?
[5:35] <domino14> keyman007: correct, as am I
[5:35] <domino14> i edited /etc/network/interfaces
[5:35] <keyman007> check /etc/resolv.conf make sure you have name servers.
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[5:36] <keyman007> I assume you made sure you put a gateway in /etc/network/interfaces
[5:36] <fred1807> domino14: Did you just cloned your sd, or do you have more than one raspberry pi around?
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[5:39] <domino14> gateway 10.0.0.1
[5:40] <domino14> that's my router IP because i can do http://10.0.0.1 and get my router
[5:40] <domino14> that sound right?
[5:40] <domino14> only ave one ip
[5:40] <keyman007> yea that sounds fine
[5:40] <domino14> /etc/resolv.conf had the old nameserver
[5:40] <keyman007> what about name servers in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[5:40] <domino14> weird, i didn't know that could be specified. changed and reoboted it
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[5:41] <keyman007> well /etc/resolv.conf will probably get over written by resolvconf
[5:41] <keyman007> but if it ends up with something decent like 8.8.8.8 thats fine.
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[5:45] <domino14_> sigh, nameserver 10.0.0.1 doesnt do anything
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[5:46] <keyman007> in just the pi?
[5:47] <domino14_> yes, the pi cannot see the world
[5:47] <keyman007> so if you do nslookup www.google.com 10.0.0.1 it fails in the pi?
[5:47] <domino14_> https://dpaste.de/qtZf
[5:48] <domino14_> bash: nslookup: command not found
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[5:48] <keyman007> oh yea I forgot no dig and no nslookup on base install.
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[5:49] <keyman007> switch it to 8.8.8.8 and see what happens
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[5:53] <domino14_> after canging /etc/resolv.conf do i have to reboot the Pi?
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[5:53] <domino14_> that worked!
[5:53] <keyman007> nice.... a reboot might cause the /etc/resolv.conf to get overwritten.
[5:54] <keyman007> resolvconf binary is usually in control of that file
[5:55] <keyman007> some people put dns-nameservers in the /etc/network/interfaces file.
[5:55] <keyman007> I have not had the need personally.
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[5:56] <domino14_> is tere something after raspbian wheezy?
[5:57] <domino14_> whoa that's an asston of packages
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[6:32] <domino14_> i upgraded by doing apt-get upgrade and i still dont have nslookup/dig?
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[6:34] <keyman007> you won't its not part of the base/standard install.
[6:34] <keyman007> you have to apt-get them.
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[7:16] <TyrfingMjolnir> Anyone running arch linux?
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[7:16] <TyrfingMjolnir> http://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv7/broadcom/raspberry-pi-2
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[7:19] <mike_t> domino14_, apt-get install dnsutils
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[7:24] <tawr> haha
[7:24] <tawr> so my powered usb-hub doesn't back-power my pi
[7:24] <tawr> so i had to get creative.. http://i.imgur.com/nZRpSIzl.jpg
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[7:57] <fish0> does anyone know what the os flag (-O) does?
[7:57] <fish0> sorry, of u-boot
[7:57] <fish0> specifically, it’s mkimage tool
[7:57] <fish0> *its
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[8:21] <factor> -O Optimize.
[8:21] <factor> mkimage tool. -O for gcc
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[8:23] <fish0> Sorry, I wasn’t very clear and the question should have been directed to the u-boot devs. Ignore the question :D
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[8:25] <factor> -O [os]
[8:25] <factor> Set operating system. bootm command of u-boot changes boot method by os
[8:25] <factor> type. Pass -h as the OS to see the list of supported OS.
[8:25] <factor> had to get the package
[8:25] <factor> man mkimage
[8:26] <fish0> yeah, I’ve read that, but I’m still unclear on what the effect of setting the OS actually does
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[11:59] <Otanii> I have a raspberry pi 2 with the latest version of Wheezy. I followed a tutorial to get VNC and Remote Desktop sharing running. But everytime I run startx, either on the pi itself, or via VNC, or Remote Desktop, the GUI launches, but I have no taskbar. It looks like the taskbar is trying to load, but crashing
[12:00] <shiftplusone> Otanii: I'll pass your report and and another one I've seen with a similar problem to the UI guy.
[12:01] <Otanii> Aight.
[12:01] <ShorTie> what vnc client are you using if i can ask ??
[12:02] <ShorTie> i'm using x11vnc and have no problems connecting and it working
[12:03] <Otanii> VNC Viewer. But that wouldnt matter. The issue was happening BEFORE I installed the VNC server, or Remote Desktop server. And I get the same visual error using VNC Viewer, Windows Remote Desktop, or logging into the GUI locally on the Pi. But just to answer the question, the lastest version of Real VNC Viewer 64bit for Windows.
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[12:04] <Otanii> I can connect just fine. The issue is that the taskbar doesn't work.
[12:04] <Otanii> Its almost like it keeps loading, and crashing.
[12:05] <ShorTie> i gave up on real vnc on > xp, and have switched to ultravnc
[12:06] <Otanii> I see the GUI, I can see the background image with the RPi logo. I can see the Trashcan in the upper right. And I can see a white bar at the top appear, then desappear, repeatedly.
[12:06] <Otanii> upper left*
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[12:06] <ShorTie> was something about it not liking > xp, but been so long i forget why exactly
[12:07] <Otanii> I am a noob. But i haven't had any issues with the client itself.
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[12:07] <ShorTie> just a thought to try maybe i guess
[12:08] <Otanii> Like I said, this isn't an issue with the client. It happens on 2 differnt clients, using 2 different protocols, as well as just running startx. So its a problem with the GUI itself
[12:08] <ShorTie> whelp, ultravnc to x11vnc works fine
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[12:11] <ShorTie> guess i'm trying to say, might be worth a shot to try those as for 'the UI guy's to get to it might be ages, lol.
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[12:11] <Otanii> It is definately a UI issue.
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[12:12] <ShorTie> �k�� ��K��
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[12:21] <shiftplusone> Otanii: are you running it as the pi user or did you create another one?
[12:21] <ShorTie> oh, i think it was the server didn't work for > xp with realvnc
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[12:21] <Otanii> I created one.
[12:21] <shiftplusone> aha
[12:22] <shiftplusone> make sure it's in the same groups as the pi user and try again
[12:22] <Otanii> I deleted the pi user.
[12:22] <Otanii> And I am a noob, so I know nothing about groups.
[12:23] * ShorTie thinkz, then just try adding pi back and try again
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[12:25] <Otanii> Whether the pi user exists would be irrelavent
[12:28] <ShorTie> not really, the pi user is setup properly for things to work
[12:28] <ShorTie> your user may not be
[12:29] <ShorTie> ie: <shiftplusone> make sure it's in the same groups as the pi user and try again
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[12:31] <ShorTie> there is nothing wrong with keeping the user as pi
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[12:31] <Otanii> First, as said, I don't know how to do groups. Second, it would still be irrelavent to have the pi user. All that would accomplish is easily knowing what groups it was in. But just recreating the user wouldnt magicly make it the same as it was before.
[12:32] <shiftplusone> alright back
[12:33] <shiftplusone> No solution to the problem yet
[12:33] <shiftplusone> but something that should be sorted for the next release
[12:33] <Otanii> Bleh.
[12:34] <Otanii> Well that sucks
[12:34] <ShorTie> �k�� ��K��
[12:34] <ShorTie> So So Sorry .. :(~
[12:34] <ShorTie> just trying to get it working for you today
[12:35] <shiftplusone> well, there might be a solution ShorTie will come up with. Just that there isn't an official solution that we know of yet.
[12:36] <shiftplusone> seems like the startx plumbing isn't done right
[12:36] <Otanii> As I said, the GUI works. It is just the taskbar/start that doesn't work.
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[12:42] <ShorTie> i believe the 'startx plumbing' is plumb to pi, so changing users without further plumbing mods just isn't gonna work .
[12:43] <ShorTie> easiest thing is to put pi back i think
[12:43] <Otanii> That seems kind of ridiculous to think users are gonna stick to the pi account.
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[12:44] <Otanii> And again, that IS NOT as easy as you seem to thing. Just recreating the pi account doesn't put it back in the groups it was in before. It doesn't give it the permissions it had before. It doesn't replace all the files that were in its home directory.
[12:45] <ShorTie> �k�� ��K��
[12:45] <ShorTie> you seem to kmow more then me, so i'll hush
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[12:46] <Otanii> I am a noob, but I know THAT much. Simply recreating the user doesnt bring back all that lost info.
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[12:48] <ShorTie> wipe-n-reload will, lol.
[12:49] <Otanii> No thanks. I have Raspbian and OpenElec dual boot, and I already have OpenElec already fully set up.
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[12:58] <Otanii> And compiling MongoDB takes ~2-4 hours.
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[13:06] <temmi_hoo> fetching mongodb from some apt-repo takes minutes?
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[13:24] <Otanii> Except mongodb isnt IN the apt repo
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[13:24] <temmi_hoo> not in raspbians no, because raspberry pi itself is so new that debian developers haven't yet heard about it
[13:25] <Otanii> Now THAT is nonsense.
[13:25] <temmi_hoo> :)
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[13:25] <Otanii> No, just your statement about no one having heard about the raspberry pi.
[13:26] <Otanii> Your working makes it sound like some obscure, niche thing that just came out./
[13:26] <temmi_hoo> i'm joking about how fast debian in general reacts to anything
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[13:26] <Otanii> Well, I am a linux noob, but I do know that that is true.
[13:27] <temmi_hoo> i've been seeing debian for a long time and they're slower to support features than netbsd and that's saying a lot
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[13:47] <Encapsulation> what could cause a false interrupt on an ardunio when a relay is triggered
[13:48] <shiftplusone> RF interference cause by the switching, long wires and/or insufficient pull resistor.
[13:48] <temmi_hoo> glitch from the relay coil itself
[13:49] <temmi_hoo> you need a buffer cap near the relay coil/fet activation circuit and the coil needs a snubber circuit too
[13:49] <temmi_hoo> the snubber is mostly for deactivating the relay
[13:49] <temmi_hoo> energy stored in the coil will need to be released somewhere
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[15:28] <Tenkawa> hi all
[15:28] <ShorTie> Good Morning
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[15:36] <Tenkawa> wow that sim card is fairly badly tarnished
[15:37] <IT_Sean> (oO)
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[15:43] <Tenkawa> wow its quiet.....
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[15:47] <Encapsulation> temmi_hoo, I think its opto coupled wouldnt that stop back emf from the switching
[15:47] <Encapsulation> the wires are short shiftplusone
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[15:47] <Encapsulation> pull downs are 4.7-10k
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[15:58] <Encapsulation> niston, are you around?
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[16:01] <fred1807> is it a good idea to use swap file o sd card?
[16:02] <JK-47> "it depends"
[16:02] <fred1807> I am playing music and video
[16:02] <JK-47> swap isnt bad always. not everything NEEDS to be resident.
[16:02] <fred1807> and my memory i always full
[16:03] <JK-47> theres the answer ;) but you may swap out something you dont want to
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[16:03] <fred1807> I saw people saying that swap o sd card is paifull slow and may wrose things
[16:04] <JK-47> it will slow things down, but so will running out of memory
[16:04] <shiftplusone> fred1807: what software are you using?
[16:04] <fred1807> omxplayer
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[16:04] <shiftplusone> and which processes are eating the RAM? =S
[16:05] <fred1807> I dont know... When I look on "top" most of the process uses a little ram
[16:05] <fred1807> but the total usage i always full
[16:05] <fred1807> KiB Mem: 446304 total, 441208 used, 5096 free,
[16:05] <shiftplusone> can you pastebin the full output of free -h ?
[16:06] <fred1807> Mem: 435 432 3 0 17 337
[16:06] <fred1807> swap is 0
[16:06] <JK-47> see 337?
[16:06] <JK-47> thats CACHED
[16:06] <fred1807> cached
[16:06] <JK-47> thats available for use
[16:06] <shiftplusone> well... there's that... you're fine.
[16:06] <JK-47> if an app needs it
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[16:06] <fred1807> good
[16:06] <fred1807> so I am out of cpu then :/
[16:07] <shiftplusone> which makes sense if you're playing video that's not h264 or mpeg...2 I think.
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[16:07] <shiftplusone> or mpeg4 or vc without the codec license.
[16:07] <Tenkawa> wow
[16:07] <Tenkawa> got busy in here
[16:07] <JK-47> ps -eo pcpu,pid,user,args | sort -k 1 -r | head -2
[16:07] <fred1807> yes
[16:08] <fred1807> I really love hello.video with h264
[16:08] <fred1807> it is really fast
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[16:08] <fred1807> but I dont know yet how to make it play a list, a folder
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[16:29] <Tenkawa> brb
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[16:29] <Encapsulation> k
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[18:09] <shiftplusone> Otanii: ping?
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[18:11] <shiftplusone> Otanii: I tried to reproduce your problem and it works if you did things properly.
[18:11] <shiftplusone> You need to be in the audio group
[18:11] <shiftplusone> sudo usermod -a -G audio your_user
[18:12] <shiftplusone> better yet, for group in adm dialout cdrom sudo audio video plugdev games users input netdev spi i2c gpio; do usermod -a -G $group your_user; done;
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[18:13] <shiftplusone> well, I assume usermod can take a list of groups and the for thing isn't needed, but... it's there anyway.
[18:14] <shiftplusone> Simon is patching things so that the panel doesn't just crash when that's the case.
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[18:17] <fred1807> can I set a maximum cpu% for a process?
[18:17] <fred1807> (my sync job is lagging my video and music play :( )
[18:17] <shiftplusone> cpulimit
[18:18] <shiftplusone> google says http://blog.scoutapp.com/articles/2014/11/04/restricting-process-cpu-usage-using-nice-cpulimit-and-cgroups
[18:18] <shiftplusone> in your case, it sounds like you want to use 'nice' rather than cap cpu utilisation
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[18:36] <awoserra> good morning :)
[18:37] <Encapsulation> good afternoon
[18:37] <IT_Sean> It is very very afternoon.
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[19:05] <Froolap> god dag
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[19:23] <naquad> hi
[19:24] <naquad> did someone try to write 1 wire or single wire communication using python? i'm trying to communicate with DH11, but it looks like python is pretty slow here :(
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[19:31] <Sewerrat> https://learn.adafruit.com/pocket-pigrrl/circuit-diagram can anyone explain this? gpio 22 and gpio 2 connected togheter? or just gpio 2 for the four button version?
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[19:47] <methuzla> Sewerrat seems like a typo or something in the naming of the buttons, probably suppose to keep GPIO 22 and 2 separate
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[21:18] <Encrypt> Hi o/
[21:18] <Encrypt> So my friend has just told me that the temperature of the Broadcom chip of his Pi is 60°C
[21:18] <Encrypt> What do you think of that?
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[21:19] <Encrypt> He is using 1 GPIO output
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[21:27] <jer> Encrypt, what else is he doing with it?
[21:28] <Encrypt> jelatta, He's telling me that he is driving a fan
[21:28] <Encrypt> Using PWM
[21:28] <jer> but if it's genuinely running that hot, he should apply a heatsink at a minimum, and likely a fan too
[21:28] <detach-> lol need a fan to drive a fan
[21:28] <Encrypt> :P
[21:28] <jer> no i suspect there's something else going on
[21:28] <jer> apart from his fan
[21:28] <Goldy> is he driving the fan directly?
[21:29] <jer> maybe he's got it outside and is in dubai? =]
[21:30] <Froolap> yeah that's the ticket you see. you have a fan blow air through a tube, the cpu is in the tube to be cooled, you have a fan on the other end of the tube that spins because the first fan is blowing.
[21:31] <Froolap> the second fan acts as a wind mill to produce power to replace the power lost by the first fan.
[21:32] <Froolap> the heat generated by the cpu causes the air inside the tube to expand so that the windmill fan actually turns faster than the powered fan.
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[21:34] <Encrypt> Goldy, Nope
[21:35] <Encrypt> Sending a PWM signal to the appropriate wire
[21:36] <pksato> that is normal/usual temperature of SoC?
[21:37] <detach-> depends on what the ambient temp is
[21:38] <Encrypt> ~ 25 °C
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[21:39] <detach-> probably a tad high
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[21:39] <brasizza> heeey guys.
[21:41] <brasizza> is there any chance to use my USB webcam with openCV ? or just the picam?
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[21:42] <JK-47> brasizza: depends on the usb webcam if its v4l compatible id assume
[21:43] <brasizza> logitech
[21:43] <brasizza> it is
[21:43] <brasizza> i use that webcam in another linux application that is v4l
[21:44] <JK-47> what errors do you get?
[21:45] <JK-47> you using the uvsvideo driver or another one?
[21:45] <brasizza> cant find the webcam
[21:45] <ShorTie> 'temperature of the Broadcom chip of his Pi is 60°C', it's just getting warmed up, no need to worry till 80-85C
[21:45] <JK-47> your webcam have audio as well?
[21:46] <JK-47> http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals#Working_USB_Webcams
[21:46] <brasizza> yes.
[21:46] <brasizza> thanks
[21:46] <JK-47> blacklist snd_usb_audio in /etc/modprobe.d
[21:46] <JK-47> which driver is your cam using?
[21:47] <brasizza> i'll try to see .. i just lost my connection with my rpi (i'm remote)
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[21:48] <brasizza> i'll get married soon.. and i wanna do a game with my best men to open a box with a blue label with his face
[21:49] <JK-47> dont get married :P
[21:49] <brasizza> lol
[21:49] <brasizza> i wish
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[22:01] <Tenkawa> hi all
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[22:07] <TheLostAdmin> is there a way to configure the Pi to have a fallback boot process (kernel)? I'm planning on booting my Pi via bootp and NFS mounting root but it would be nice to have it fallback to the SD card if the bootp server isn't available.
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[22:08] <McBride36> anyone know of strong servos? like, ones that could supply about 15 lb of force
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[22:09] <ShorTie> sure there are
[22:09] <JK-47> TheLostAdmin: i thought you had ot have the kernel on the sd, and then you can boot or mount anything after that
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[22:10] <TheLostAdmin> JK-47, you sort-of do but there is a special u-boot kernel that acts as a bootp client to load the real kernel from a bootp server with enough logic to get root NFS mounted.
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[22:12] <detach-> McBride36: used to have those metal geared ones for RC crafts... brand is Hitec
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[22:13] <Tenkawa> detach-: heheheh same here
[22:13] <detach-> Or Futaba hehe
[22:13] <Tenkawa> haahaa futaba
[22:14] <Tenkawa> i still have a lot of those parts in a storage box
[22:14] <detach-> and a HH Gyro? ;)
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[22:16] <ShorTie> McBride36, like this maybe http://www.gpdealera.com/cgi-bin/wgainf100p.pgm?I=FUTM0020
[22:17] <McBride36> excellent, ty guys, i will poke around
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[22:19] <detach-> I do have an S3306 lol
[22:19] <ShorTie> tower hobbies, hobby lobby, there are a few places
[22:19] <Tenkawa> yep
[22:19] <detach-> if you want cheap ones... hobbyking
[22:20] <brasizza> Tenkawa: sup man!
[22:20] <detach-> http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__28972__HobbyKing_8482_High_Torque_Servo_MG_BB_W_Proof_58g_12_8kg_0_22s.html
[22:20] <detach-> you can't beat $7.99
[22:20] <Tenkawa> brasizza: greetings
[22:21] <detach-> just not sure if it will be up to spec
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[22:35] <Tenkawa> heheh i2c can be "intriguing" to track dowm dependencies
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[22:40] <Froolap> why? does i2c depend on something which in return depends on i2c?
[22:41] <IT_Sean> Because Linux.
[22:41] <ShorTie> chicken/egg
[22:41] <JK-47> because -f
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[22:41] <CoJaBo> I tried to compile a compiler once. That was the circular dependancy FROM HELL
[22:42] <CoJaBo> Long story short: I failed >_>
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[23:05] <McBride36> detach-, turns out i'll only need about 5-8 lb of force, just measured it with a force gage
[23:06] <McBride36> s/gage/gauge
[23:06] <detach-> better to get a servo with a higher rating
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[23:08] <McBride36> that's the plan
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[23:46] <Tenkawa> yay I got my touchscreen working on my linux tablet
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[23:52] <Froolap> and there was much joy
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[23:56] <hen3ry> Copying files from a Mac to the SD card: Some say "can use Finder copy", others imply "must use shell command or a utility". What are the issues?
[23:58] <Tenkawa> '
[23:58] <Tenkawa> sorry
[23:58] <Tenkawa> brb
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[23:58] <Tenkawa> well that was annoying
[23:59] <Tenkawa> hen3ry: trying to write an image file or individual files?
[23:59] <hen3ry> Tenkawa: potentially both, at different times

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