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IRC Log for 2015-06-10

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[0:00] <Tenkawa> ahh
[0:00] <Tenkawa> i think theres an osx disk image writer app people use out there
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[0:00] <Tenkawa> dd through shell works if you know the devicenodes/syntax/etc
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[0:02] <hen3ry> Tenkawa: yeah, I’ve found at least two such utilities. Just trying to figure out if they are necessary. First time, I used dd successfully.
[0:02] <Tenkawa> ah
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[0:04] <hen3ry> Tenkawa: it’s easier to just drag-and-drop on the SD card icon — if that works. Maybe this is discouraged ‘cause it is simply slow. If there’s an actual reason it doesn’t work, noob me doesn’t want to sort that out from other reasons for RP boot fail.
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[0:12] <Tenkawa> bbl
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[0:27] <UncleKiwi> hey anyone know why an ssd usb drive would randomly timeout
[0:27] <UncleKiwi> worked for almost a month
[0:27] <UncleKiwi> and then I rebooted just the rpi and it worked again for 24hrs
[0:27] <UncleKiwi> and did the same thing
[0:28] <UncleKiwi> smart is not reporting any issues
[0:29] <UncleKiwi> what could cause a timeout to accessing the disk and then it be recovered by a reboot of the pi
[0:29] <UncleKiwi> i have also replaced the pi and its psu
[0:29] <UncleKiwi> im about to replace the drive and the drives active usb hube today
[0:29] <UncleKiwi> *hub
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[0:30] <Xark> UncleKiwi: Fairly common with USB drives. My guess would be it is doing some kind of power save mode (that Linux doesn't appreciate).
[0:30] <UncleKiwi> i have an idential setup at another site working with no issues
[0:31] <UncleKiwi> im really wishing it will be hardware...
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[0:32] <UncleKiwi> Xark: so you have seen this exact issue many time before
[0:33] <UncleKiwi> ?
[0:33] <UncleKiwi> *times
[0:33] <Froolap> no, you are wishing that it's not hardware design.... lol
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[0:34] <UncleKiwi> yeah or that Froolap ( I have anotherone working properly )
[0:34] <Froolap> I'm seeing a lot of usb time out, data may be lost......
[0:34] <UncleKiwi> oh no
[0:34] <Froolap> but that happens with my keyboard.... sometimes with the drive, but usually it's keyboard
[0:34] <UncleKiwi> do you know what seems to cause it
[0:35] <UncleKiwi> high io ?
[0:35] <Froolap> I think it's caused by the pi trying to run eth, usb through the same pipe....
[0:35] <UncleKiwi> yes i was thinking about this too
[0:36] <Froolap> no, it happens when nothing more is going on than pushing the button to select the pi on my kvm
[0:36] <UncleKiwi> ok
[0:36] <Froolap> which causes usb devices to be detected.... mouse/keyboard/kvm built in hub.
[0:37] <UncleKiwi> ok - i have pi attached only to usb drive ( running / ) via a power usb hub
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[0:37] <UncleKiwi> very simple setup
[0:38] <Froolap> yeah, but then you have eth0 which shares bandwidth with usb
[0:38] <UncleKiwi> yeah
[0:38] <UncleKiwi> this is true
[0:38] <UncleKiwi> i have enabled some logging from a remote device
[0:38] <UncleKiwi> maybe its flooding syslogd
[0:39] <UncleKiwi> from time to time
[0:39] <UncleKiwi> ah its all crystal ball gazing
[0:39] <Froolap> I find it interesting when I'm doing yum instapp 50 meg program and then I get the frame dropped data mave have been lost, go and look up to see which usb device device 10 is..... Oh, that's my keyboard.... That lost data was a typo, I'll never recover.
[0:40] <UncleKiwi> wow i have never had that happen
[0:40] <Froolap> Yeah, but I wasn't typing anything.... Just looking at the screen....
[0:40] <UncleKiwi> however i have seen issues with disks when plugging things into the hub
[0:40] <UncleKiwi> while the system is up
[0:41] <Froolap> I was just watching fedore install something like firefox.
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[0:43] <UncleKiwi> i will get the suspect drive and active hub back and will stress test it for 24 hrs
[0:43] <UncleKiwi> and see if i can bring out the fault
[0:44] <UncleKiwi> currently the are not under much stress at all
[0:45] <UncleKiwi> its just me that gets under stress
[0:47] <Froolap> what you likely want to do is to copy a large ammount of data from one directory to another and if you get the error to come up during copy then run diff to see if the data has changed
[0:47] <UncleKiwi> thanks yeah i'll do that cheers
[0:48] <UncleKiwi> but the fault that im talking about completely takes the drive offline
[0:48] <UncleKiwi> it timesout until the system is rebooted
[0:48] <UncleKiwi> as fars as i can tell
[0:49] <UncleKiwi> i think the hardware maybe the enclosure is going bad
[0:49] <UncleKiwi> i guess the ssd could be going bad ...
[0:50] <Froolap> Yeah well it would be nice to know if it's an error that self corrects or if it's an error that actually causes data corruption.
[0:50] <UncleKiwi> reason i say this is due to the two faults within 24hrs
[0:50] <UncleKiwi> and it was running fine for 40days aprox before that
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[0:51] <UncleKiwi> i would say it would have caused some data corruption - because it randomly stops access to the drive things will be half written etc
[0:51] <UncleKiwi> its just the same as pulling the power
[0:52] <UncleKiwi> if you do it enough its going to destroy the data
[0:52] <UncleKiwi> well some of it anyway
[0:52] <UncleKiwi> espeshally the sdcard
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[0:55] <UncleKiwi> i think we might be talking about two different faults ?
[0:55] <Froolap> dunno..... brb
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[1:40] <hexafraction> Hi, I'm experiencing a lot of overheating on the processor/memory itself, when my Pi (B) is idle (minimal CPU usage, no GPIO pins used, one flash drive plugged in). The polyfuse itself is not heating up excessively. Should I be concerned?
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[1:42] <plugwash> define "overheating"
[1:42] <awoserra> do you have a heatsink on the broadcom chip?
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[1:42] <hexafraction> The heat is to the point that I cannot touch the processor with a finger for more than a few seconds
[1:42] <awoserra> sounds excessive
[1:42] <kookie> use a powerd USB hub when using flash drives.
[1:42] <hexafraction> OK, thanks. I thought however that the only regulation on the SOC board was 1.2v for the core...
[1:43] <awoserra> 5v
[1:43] <awoserra> 2a
[1:43] <hexafraction> There is currently no heatsink on it, and I don't think I have something that small lying around
[1:43] <awoserra> yah your power might be bad
[1:43] <hexafraction> No, I'm getting a stable reading of 5V.
[1:43] <awoserra> hmm ok
[1:44] <awoserra> raspbian?
[1:44] <hexafraction> I was just under the impression that the SOC chip only regulated a small amount of power down to its operating voltage
[1:44] <hexafraction> Yes, Raspbian.
[1:44] <awoserra> and uptime shows low loads, as well as top?
[1:45] <hexafraction> Yes, both indicate minimal utilization.
[1:45] <awoserra> well... these quad core broadcom chips generally run at 60 degrees C at idle
[1:45] <awoserra> at normal room temperature
[1:46] <awoserra> i've gotten mine hot like that, but only after compiling for a long time
[1:46] <awoserra> ...
[1:46] <hexafraction> I don't have a Pi 2, so it's not the quad core chip.
[1:46] <awoserra> oh dual core right?
[1:46] <ShorTie> you can touch it for a few seconds ??
[1:46] <ShorTie> then it is fine
[1:47] <ShorTie> just getting warmed up really
[1:47] <awoserra> they do run hot...
[1:47] <awoserra> 50-70C idling
[1:47] <hexafraction> Barely, although that might just be me. vcgencmd reads 55.1degrees C but it feels hotter than that (although my reference is a 3d printer heated bed, not anything insanely precise)
[1:47] <awoserra> i have a dual core and a quad core arm broadcom
[1:47] <awoserra> pi and asus ac68u
[1:47] <ShorTie> don't think tour gonna touch 85c for a few seconds, that is it's limit
[1:47] <hexafraction> OK, thanks
[1:48] <methuzla> hexafraction is is behaving poorly? or is just hot to the touch?
[1:48] <hexafraction> Just hot to the touch, but not behaving poorly at all.
[1:48] <awoserra> yah i'd say normal
[1:48] <ShorTie> i think at 80c the thernal protection kicks in
[1:48] <awoserra> any air flow you can get to it will help
[1:48] <awoserra> if sensors say 55C - no worries
[1:49] <hexafraction> OK, awesome.
[1:50] <awoserra> i put a heat sink on mine.
[1:51] <UncleKiwi> i have heatsinks on all mine and i have spare heatsinks
[1:51] <awoserra> and, quadcore compiles endlessly without trigger prot
[1:51] <UncleKiwi> i found usb ssh drives get hot
[1:52] <UncleKiwi> 42 degrees
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[1:55] <UncleKiwi> *ssd
[1:56] <kookie> put the drive in front of a barn fan
[1:58] <UncleKiwi> haha that would work
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[6:33] <UncleKiwi> i just found one of my heatsinks had slid off the chip today
[6:33] <UncleKiwi> dont mount them vertically
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[6:35] <[Saint]> UncleKiwi: I guess it would be relevant if they served a purpose. ;))
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[6:36] <[Saint]> (they don't)
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[7:16] <UncleKiwi> how do you knoe this saint ?
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[7:17] <[Saint]> UncleKiwi: because its a chipset designed for use in embedded environments far more restrictive that the (open air) raspberry pi and it is perfectly capable of its own thermal management.
[7:17] <UncleKiwi> great thanks
[7:17] <[Saint]> You don't have to worry about thermal management in the slightest.
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[7:18] <[Saint]> It won't even begin to care until it reaches ~80C
[7:18] <[Saint]> And even that is perfectly safe.
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[7:18] <UncleKiwi> ok great
[7:18] <[Saint]> This is about the same as sticking a heat sync on a cellular phone.
[7:19] <UncleKiwi> ah ok
[7:19] <[Saint]> Even in a particularly arid environment, in a case, you shouldn't be getting anywhere near the thermal limiting cutoff.
[7:20] <[Saint]> The majority of vendors selling these products are either confused, or cashin in on the confusion of others.
[7:20] <[Saint]> *cashing
[7:20] <UncleKiwi> ah yep - well mine came in a kit that included the case and some heatsinks
[7:20] <UncleKiwi> i wanted teh case mostly
[7:20] * [Saint] nods
[7:22] <UncleKiwi> i think it was like 40 usd
[7:22] <UncleKiwi> on ebay
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[7:22] <[Saint]> I have to ask - with a nick like UncleKiwi - you're from NZ?
[7:22] <UncleKiwi> free shipping - dont know how they do that free shipping
[7:23] <UncleKiwi> yeah i am
[7:23] * [Saint] too
[7:23] <UncleKiwi> cool i wonder how many other kiwi's are in here
[7:23] <UncleKiwi> haha
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[9:55] <voltagex> Any ideas about https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/1016?
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[9:56] <ionte> hi. anyone who knows the ins and outs of linux kernel and raspberry pi? i have added a device (an MRF24J40MA) to the kernel, and it is found as far as I can tell. but for some reason it does not fire any interrupts. this worked on a previous attempt that has been running for a couple of months, but after updating the kernel and applying the same patch it does not work anymore
[9:56] <ionte> i need some help on how to debug this ....
[9:57] <Froolap> fix it
[9:57] <ionte> right
[9:58] <ionte> here's my patch, which is applied to kernel 3.18.5: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11688911/
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[10:02] <ShorTie> voltagex, where did you get your sources from ??
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[10:04] <voltagex> ShorTie: https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/tree/rpi-4.0.y
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[10:06] <ShorTie> ok, because those get patched in i believe, but, sorry, more then that not much help
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[10:10] <cognizant> so I have a headset that records fine on windows but doesn't make any sound on raspberry pi. Any reasons that could be?
[10:10] <cognizant> actually come to think of it, I can't turn of my mic mute on raspberry pi
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[10:12] <cognizant> oh I need one with it's onw built in sound card.
[10:13] <ShorTie> ya, you need a usb sound device with a mic input
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[10:36] <Froolap> can't do bluetooth?
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[11:30] <Berg> hello world
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[11:39] <Froolap> hello Berg
[11:40] <Berg> countdown big sleeps till new pi day is not calculated yet
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[11:42] <Froolap> ????
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[11:45] <Berg> i have to gewt5 a new PI as i must have blue smoked my one and i have to count how many big sleepos till i can afford one
[11:46] <Berg> :)
[11:46] <Berg> ???? is not a real question actualy
[11:46] <Berg> its just the very end of a question or even 4 questionws
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[11:57] <UncleKiwi> hey does it make sense that by setting by /boot to ro in the fstab ( my / is on a usb drive) that when i drop the power to the pi randomly the sdcard would not get corrupted
[11:57] <UncleKiwi> ?
[11:58] <UncleKiwi> because this is what I am finding so far
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[12:11] <teff> UncleKiwi: you mean you are seeing corruption of the sdcard
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[12:12] <NedScott> the SD card starts doing drugs, getting in fights, taking bribes
[12:13] <UncleKiwi> yeah teff
[12:14] <UncleKiwi> yeah after they get corrupted from being dropped on their face a few times ( power cut after power cut) it seems to still boot
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[12:17] <teff> does it still start to boot? the corruption is definitely the sdcard and not the usb?
[12:18] <UncleKiwi> yeah the sdcard corrupts
[12:18] <teff> and there is no swap partition on the sdcard?
[12:18] <UncleKiwi> nah i dont believe so
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[12:22] <teff> bad sdcard maybe?
[12:23] <UncleKiwi> nah they do corrupt typically if you drop power on them
[12:23] <Froolap> Just go out and spend $300 on a good ups so you can safely run a $30 computer.
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[12:23] <UncleKiwi> I have a UPS Froolap
[12:24] <Froolap> why didn't you plug the pi into it? lol
[12:24] <UncleKiwi> nice
[12:24] <UncleKiwi> haha
[12:26] <Froolap> I dunno, I'm doing something silly by copying the sd card /boot to my usb drive /boot and the on the usb /boot touch NOT-MOUNTED
[12:26] <UncleKiwi> i dont understand
[12:27] <Froolap> I dunno why but if I umount /boot it still won't let me eject the sd card..... even though it's running entirely on usb
[12:27] <UncleKiwi> why do you want to do that ?
[12:28] <UncleKiwi> ya have to use teh sdcard to boot
[12:28] <UncleKiwi> *the
[12:29] <Froolap> well if I have / on usb and then copy /boot to usb If the sd has /boot mounted then an LS od /boot won't show the Not-Mounted touch file, but if the sd /boot isn't mounted, an ls will still show the copy os /boot, but give warning that I'm only looking at a copy and changes made won't change the next boot.
[12:30] <Froolap> Yeah, but if I boot and then I'm running entirely off of usb and I eject the sd card then no more sd card corruption. :)
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[12:31] <Froolap> So the touch Not-Mounted is just a flag so I won't make the mistake of making changes in /boot and not have them take effect on my next boot. I thought that was a nice touch.
[12:32] <Froolap> tacky pun intended
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[12:33] <UncleKiwi> i think mounting the boot partition as ro is enough to prevent corruption
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[12:33] <UncleKiwi> from a crash or power loss
[12:33] <Froolap> naw. if it's a matter of voltage making it do something it's not supposed to do, then it's not going to be stopped by a ro flag.
[12:34] <teff> Froolap: you cant do that, the sdcard has the bootloader on it,thats loading before the kernel, boot is still mounted below the kernel level
[12:34] <UncleKiwi> true
[12:34] <UncleKiwi> i have good power
[12:35] <teff> the boot mount under the os is just so you can edit the config and update the files there
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[12:35] <Froolap> teff I have found that you are correct in that I can't do that, but. if all the data is in /boot anyways, then there is no need to have the sdcard mounted once the chroot to usb is completed
[12:36] <Froolap> if it's not mounted I see no reason why it can not be ejected, as it either has what it needs in memory or it can find it.
[12:37] <teff> Froolap: it is the bios, there is no embedded bios on the rpi, it uses the files within the boot partition to boot
[12:37] <teff> you cannot make the rpi release its lock on the files that it loaded before the kernel booted
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[13:25] <citroniks> hi to all
[13:26] <citroniks> i want to control omxplayer through cmd line how can i do
[13:27] <citroniks> it controlling from key board is there any possible to control back ground playing omxplayer
[13:28] <citroniks> please help me thanks
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[14:00] <pbccw> hey all. i am looking for a monitoring solution for one of my RPis. Basically, I want to control lights with a switch, and log how long the switch has been open. If anyone knows of a website that could guide me in the right direction, that would be great. Thanks
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[14:06] <Froolap> ???
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[14:07] <Froolap> are you turning the lights on and off with the pi, or just wanting to use a light sensor and hope it's detecting the right light, or are you wanting to connect the switch to the pi and the light?
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[14:09] <pbccw> well, its a door switch. I figured controling the lights with the pi would be the easiest to log. but i am open to suggestions. This is going to be monitoring a safe. I would like to know how long the door has been open and when. It will eventually log temp/humidty as well, and depending how ambitions i get, use vibration sensors, and do a delay web cam photo and store that as well.
[14:10] <Froolap> what is a door switch?
[14:10] <pbccw> haven't bought it yet. it could be a jamb switch, or a magnetic one.
[14:11] <Froolap> I don't know what you are trying to accomplish, so I can't tell you how to proceed.
[14:13] <citroniks> i want to control omxplayer through cmd line how can i do
[14:13] <citroniks> please help me
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[14:14] <pbccw> ... Froolap. i have a safe. i want to know when the safe door opens and closes, and log that times for both. also, when the door opens, i want lights to come on. i figured centrally managing this through a pi would be a way to do this. i have not tied myself to a type of switch and am open to recomendations/suggestions.
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[14:14] <Froolap> omxplayer is likely a graphical front end for something else that is actually playing the sound. read the man page for what is actually playing the sound and you will likely learn the command lines.
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[14:32] <leio> citroniks: omxplayer is a program for playing video and sound via OpenMAX on the Pi; maybe you can send commands to its stdin programmatically as well, or maybe there are other ways to control it (I am not that familiar with it). To do things properly however, I wouldn't use it, but use OpenMAX directly or something that supports OpenMAX and makes things easier and more standard - for example gstreamer
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[14:41] <citroniks> leio, thanks when im playing omxplayer by key board i can control the media like pause volume up by pressing key ''
[14:41] <citroniks> leio, is there any cmd to do pressing key
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[14:43] <leio> sorry, I don't understand what you're saying
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[14:46] <citroniks> leio, while playing any video through omxplayer we can control by key board ,, i want to type that keys from terminal is this posible
[14:47] <leio> but that's what you are doing while controlling it? :)
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[14:51] <citroniks> i did some code where i want to control media player through hand gesture that is my requirement that one im unable to do that one
[14:53] <leio> I don't consider omxplayer as the player to use then, but maybe you can start it programmatically and then send keycodes to its stdin
[14:53] <leio> if you launch it programmatically, you get file handles for stdin and such, where you can write stuff into.
[14:54] <leio> maybe that would work; or google about programmable omxplayer or something; I found various maybe of interest results
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[14:54] <leio> I personally would write my own thing with gstreamer.
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[15:06] <citroniks> leio, thanks im new to here is there any way please tell me
[15:10] <leio> I told some options already; maybe other folks around here know of simpler ways or are more familiar with omxplayer to have good suggestions.
[15:11] <Froolap> citroniks: maybe you need to look at this sideways......
[15:13] <Froolap> I don't have sound on my pi and I've never looked at omxplayer. Apparently it's a command line tool that then makes use of keyboard key presses to do things.....
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[15:14] <Froolap> Maybe you need to look at keyboard mappings. Not all keyboards are the same. You press the O key on the keyboard, and the circuits in the keyboard generate a code that is sent to the computer....
[15:15] <Froolap> The computer sees the code as an EVENT and then does something based on the code of the event....
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[15:15] <Froolap> There are utilities for mapping extended keyboard keys to activities..... like play, pause, etc.....
[15:16] <Froolap> Maybe what you really want is a way to generate a keyboard type of event from the command line. so that the system is fooled into thinking the local keyboard pressed a key.
[15:17] <Froolap> I don't know how to do that.
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[15:21] <Froolap> Hold down the alt key and type 1008 on the numeric keypad and when you release the alt key you get =
[15:24] <leio> pretty sure omxplayer simply listens to stdin and reacts what goes there; if you launch it yourself from commandline, your shell sends the stuff you press in that terminal to the launched programs (omxplayer in this case) stdin file handle
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[15:26] <leio> in what programming language or thing are you writing the camera bits?
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[15:26] <leio> as I said, you could probably launch omxplayer programmatically and then feed it keycodes to its stdin; if you launch it via e.g python subprocess.Popen or similar, you can control the pipe file handles for stdin and such, and then write keycodes into them
[15:26] <awoserra> vlc has a command line interface which will work via remote terminal
[15:27] <awoserra> i dunno why anyone would want to emulate physical keyboard keystrokes
[15:28] <awoserra> http://archive09.linux.com/feature/124907
[15:28] <awoserra> mpg123
[15:28] <awoserra> xmms
[15:28] <awoserra> etc
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[15:29] <awoserra> just use a cli media player and dump your commands for it to the shell from whatever script/program you write
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[15:30] <awoserra> and... good morning :)
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[15:31] <Tenkawa> whats happening all?
[15:31] <awoserra> black coffee tenkawa :)
[15:32] <Tenkawa> about to get that
[15:32] <awoserra> hehehe
[15:33] <Tenkawa> already had a lot of soda
[15:33] <Tenkawa> heheheheh
[15:33] <awoserra> mmmm coffee :)
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[15:51] <Tenkawa> got my coffee!!!
[15:51] <Tenkawa> yay
[15:51] <awoserra> ^5
[15:52] <JK-47> Mornin
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[15:53] <Tenkawa> JK-47: hows it going?
[15:53] <JK-47> pretty good. got a ton of smartthings devices coming in today :D
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[15:54] <Tenkawa> smartthings?
[15:54] <Tenkawa> who are they?
[15:55] <JK-47> they make a hub thats compatible with ZigBee, Z-Wave, IP, and other wireless protocols for automation
[15:55] <JK-47> so, i have proximity sensors, motion sensors, outlet adapters, etc coming
[15:55] <Tenkawa> ahhhh
[15:55] <Tenkawa> nice
[15:55] <JK-47> upping my home automation game
[15:55] <Tenkawa> indeed
[15:56] <Tenkawa> i need to do that with my garage
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[16:03] <Tenkawa> winbook tw100 now with working touchscreen in linux
[16:03] <Tenkawa> heehee
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[16:22] <Fernandos> hi
[16:23] <Fernandos> I'm working on 3d remote imgaing using compressive sensing and that usually boards like the ettus USRPX.
[16:23] <Fernandos> usually requires boards like that
[16:24] <Fernandos> We have plenty of raspberry2 boards, do you know if there exists an attachable and fully tunable RF chip that could be used instead?
[16:25] <Fernandos> Just using a wifi-stick sending in the 2.4GHz and 5GHz RF range is not enough because I'd need access to the hardware, which usually isn't possible.
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[17:34] <Tenkawa> what a day
[17:34] <Tenkawa> just getting warmer and warmer
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[17:34] <Tenkawa> ugghh
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[17:35] <ShorTie> ya, had to turn the ac on for the chicks .. :/~
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[17:35] <ShorTie> try to keep the electric bill down a little, lol.
[17:35] <McBride36> luckily i work in a basement
[17:35] <Tenkawa> its just jumping all at once here
[17:35] <McBride36> surrounded by earth on 3 sides leads to cool area
[17:36] <Tenkawa> which doesnt work well with me
[17:36] <Tenkawa> now that I got my touchpad working... next is sound
[17:37] <Tenkawa> er touchscreen working
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[17:39] <Tenkawa> of course that means more diag work hehehehheh
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[17:43] <ShorTie> ya, me 2
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[17:43] <ShorTie> thought i had the lawn mower fixed
[17:43] <Tenkawa> ouch
[17:43] <Tenkawa> is it warm there?
[17:44] <Tenkawa> forecasted to be in 90's F most of the week
[17:44] <ShorTie> got the deck, sharpened the blades up and when i went to put it on noticed the front drive shaft is messed up
[17:44] <Tenkawa> ouch
[17:44] <Tenkawa> bent, torqued, or broke?
[17:44] <ShorTie> upper 80's and like 94 for friday
[17:44] <Tenkawa> almost 90 already right now
[17:45] <ShorTie> hopefully just the carrier bearing
[17:45] <ShorTie> got pissed and walked away for right now
[17:45] <ShorTie> to hot out, time to habernate, lol.
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[17:56] <McBride36> lol, my A/C compressor went kaput yesterday in my car, i know the feeling
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[17:59] <Tenkawa> wow that was lag
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[18:01] <Tenkawa> odd
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[18:07] <Tenkawa> wow got quiet
[18:07] <detach-> it's 29/30 deg C out here at midnight in Singapore
[18:08] <detach-> i can understand that feeling
[18:08] <Tenkawa> heheheh
[18:09] <Tenkawa> its going to just keep getting warmer here too for a few more months (northeastish usa)
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[18:14] <ShorTie> me in Maryland, knida in the middle
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[18:18] <Tenkawa> brb.. hopefully
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[18:22] <Tenkawa> thats better
[18:23] <Tenkawa> bbl.. errands to run
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[18:48] <DeltaWhy> hello, I'm having trouble setting a static IP on my raspbian install - it works correctly on boot but if the router drops it seems to reconnect with DHCP
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[19:12] <Bilby> DeltaWhy, you have set as a static IP in raspbian, then pull cable and reconnect and it grabs a DHCP address?
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[19:17] <DeltaWhy> I think I figured it out - somehow wicd got installed and is fighting with the default networking
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[19:22] <Bilby> that'll happen
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[19:36] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> gooooooOOoOoood evening ladies and gentlemen
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[19:36] <Bilby> mrrfle
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[19:39] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> bilby
[19:39] <ThUnD3r|Gr33n> what|s up old house_
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[19:42] <Bilby> eh. times.
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[20:13] <Encapsulation> anyone here have experience with resistive soil moisture probes?
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[20:14] <parco> hey guys, is there a channel for RetroPie?
[20:14] <parco> found it
[20:14] <Froolap> nope
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[20:16] <supersmilers> Hi. I wanted to upgrade Raspbian Wheezy to Jessie but now it let me login. it just sitting there at the failure of modemmanger package
[20:17] <supersmilers> *won't
[20:17] <supersmilers> I can't login
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[20:19] <cave> there is a channel for PiShare
[20:19] <cave> parco: bump!
[20:20] <cave> but it haven't been updated to v06 yet
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[20:20] <cave> btw: https://retrochat.piratenpartei.at/ is updated to v06 and ready for new users :D
[20:20] <supersmilers> Is there a way for me to upgrade to raspbian jessie without breaking it in progress?
[20:20] <cave> https://twitter.com/RetroShareRocks/status/608699875795066880
[20:21] <cave> hmm, sorry, i do not know... im running openELEC only...
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[20:21] <parco> is anyone versed in licensing, like creative commons and what not. i'm getting harassed
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[20:21] <cave> sry wrong channel
[20:22] <supersmilers> whoa I didn't know this link exist: http://nightly.raspberrypi.org/nightlyimages-v2/
[20:25] <shiftplusone> supersmilers: should be replaced with jessie images soonish
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[20:26] <supersmilers> i guessing using netinstall would do it : https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst/releases/latest
[20:26] <supersmilers> But I'm not sure
[20:26] <marmotworks> try
[20:26] <marmotworks> haha
[20:27] <shiftplusone> yeah, that works well
[20:27] <supersmilers> However it doesn't have wifi driver
[20:27] <shiftplusone> there's also https://github.com/ShorTie8/my_pi_os
[20:27] <shiftplusone> what wifi driver? You can configure it to install whatever you need
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[20:28] <supersmilers> How do I do my pi os .sh thing?
[20:29] <supersmilers> compile from linux virtual machine?
[20:30] <supersmilers> or How?
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[20:31] <supersmilers> Any one know to run it?
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[20:32] <supersmilers> run it from raspbian or what?
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[20:36] <supersmilers> Ok Now I get it. I suppose to place the file on a flash drive then boot up raspbian
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[21:11] <Gadgetoid> Arr!
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[21:27] <Froolap> Well THAT was fun.
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[21:38] <Bilby> O_O
[21:41] <doomlord> anyone recomend a channel to discuss SBC's generally (including rPI, but rivals too)
[21:41] <doomlord> (rivals and higher priced things)
[21:41] <doomlord> (not just direct rivals.. boards that might cost 2x, 3x.. but a similar formfactor)
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[21:42] <Bilby> eh, we kinda do that here though it's not technicaly about SBC... not sure otherwise
[21:43] <doomlord> i figured it wouldn't be completely out of context here i guess.
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[21:43] <doomlord> i've got 2 rPI2s, but i'm tempted to get a higher performance ARM . I do like these small boards
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[21:44] <doomlord> i'd also like to know if anything out there can utilize 2 (or more..) cameras simultaneously ( i know the rPI compute module can, but for an individual purchase its' pricey)
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[21:45] <TheLostAdmin> I'm partial to the mini-itx sized board myself. More room for stuff but still small enough to make a computer that fits on a shelf.
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[21:46] <Bilby> yep, micro or pico itx is pretty awesome if you value space over price
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[21:49] <Bilby> Tiny x86 is tiny http://www.mini-box.com/M350-Intel-DN2800MT
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[21:58] <McBride36> that's amazing
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[22:05] <Bilby> McBride36, ?
[22:05] <McBride36> dinky computer
[22:05] <McBride36> sorry, i get easily awed by technology
[22:05] <Bilby> yeah, mini-box sells some crazy tiny ones
[22:06] <Bilby> I want an i7 box smaller than a mousepad: http://www.mini-box.com/ASUS-MB-H97I-PLUS
[22:06] <Bilby> they make their own power supplies, too, and they're legitimately amazing: http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/sc.8/category.13/.f
[22:07] <McBride36> my company could probs make use of some of those products
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[22:10] <doomlord> ARM is part of the appeal for me
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[22:10] <doomlord> i have irrational anti-nostalgia for x86
[22:10] <doomlord> not really hatred or anything, but there is the reverse sensation to nostalgia around x86 processors
[22:11] <Bilby> haha
[22:11] <Bilby> they have arm stuff too
[22:11] <tawr> hi guys
[22:11] <tawr> Bilby,
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[22:11] <tawr> have you seen the ecs liva?
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[22:13] <Bilby> doesn't ring a bell
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[22:17] <willmore> Bilby, I don't think they invented little PSUs like that. I remember seeing those for a decade from quite a few sources.
[22:17] <willmore> doomlord, seconded. x86 is a negative.
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[22:21] <Bilby> willmore you might be right; they're just the first i've seen and seem to be most popular
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[22:24] <willmore> Bilby, they do seem popular. I need something like that for my router. That little 18W mini-ITX board does *not* need a full size ATX power supply. But, I would like AC input. All of these pico-psus want a DC input. So, you need a separate brick to make that....
[22:25] <willmore> Probably handy in a car or some other DC friendly environment, but no in my rack in the basement.
[22:25] <willmore> All I need is a high efficiency <100W ATX power supply that does't cost more than the whole rest of the system. :)
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[22:25] <Bilby> hah, yeah. maybe something second-hand?
[22:26] <willmore> Power supply wise you mean>
[22:26] <willmore> ?
[22:26] <Bilby> all of those power supplies will be DC input because putting a high-efficiency transformer on something of that size just isn't feasible
[22:26] <Bilby> yeah
[22:26] <Bilby> I have piles of old power supplies
[22:28] <Bilby> and generally the brick power supply to knock line power to 12VDC is much more compact than a computer power supply, as well as generally being sealed and fanless
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[22:36] <tawr> what
[22:36] <tawr> not true Bilby
[22:36] <tawr> nothing uses transformers anymore
[22:36] <tawr> you just rectify the ac into high-voltage dc and use a dc-dc converter
[22:36] <Bilby> well, a dc/ac circuit
[22:36] <tawr> that's how everything is now
[22:37] <tawr> look no further than your 10w 120vac -5v 2A+ phone/tablet charger that is tiny
[22:37] <Bilby> yeah, switching power supply
[22:37] <tawr> they just rectify the ac straight into dc. that's the problem with cheap chicom phone chargers. you can have up to 350vAC on the hot side
[22:38] <Bilby> still more circuitry (and high voltage stage) that you couldn't easily pack into one of those teensy tiny power supplies
[22:38] <tawr> 120vac = 170vPtoP
[22:38] <tawr> i mean, realistically, no. that part takes less than 1 square inch
[22:38] <tawr> crack open a phone charger and see
[22:38] <tawr> how big it really is. it's literally 4 components
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[22:39] <Bilby> right but you're only supplying one voltage at lowish current, compared to something that runs a desktop computer
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[22:42] <tawr> once you have the high voltage dc, you just have a separate dc-dc converter for each voltage. mini-itx makes some great stuff. picoPSU is the brand I use (not sure if you guys were talking about them)
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[22:42] <Bilby> yeah that's who we were talking about
[22:43] <tawr> i've used their stuff for car-puters
[22:43] <tawr> i saw mini-itx.com not mini-box (which is picopsu's site)
[22:43] <Bilby> their picoPSUs typcially run 9-15 VDC right?
[22:43] <Bilby> ahaha
[22:43] <Bilby> they sell the pico psus aswell
[22:43] <Bilby> iirc
[22:43] <Bilby> same mfg
[22:43] <tawr> http://www.mini-box.com/M4-ATX?sc=8&category=1544
[22:43] <tawr> that's one of their products i've used
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[22:45] <Bilby> ah, that's a different beast
[22:45] <tawr> they made another one I don't see around their site anymore, but it could take 6-15v in, and output 19v for laptops or those mini mac computers
[22:46] <tawr> i've used that one before
[22:46] <Bilby> i got my tiny-device-makers confused
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[22:46] <tawr> no worries, it's neigh-impossible to keep track now days
[22:46] <tawr> http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/sc.8/category.13/.f
[22:46] <tawr> they do make those, which is what i think you were talking about also
[22:47] <tawr> they have one that takes 5-34v in, and can output between 5v and 24v out, no matter what the input is
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[22:50] <Bilby> yeah
[22:50] <Bilby> sorry, i'm multi-tasking lol... working
[22:50] <Bilby> talking to @#$% idiots
[22:50] <tawr> no worries bud
[22:50] <tawr> i just wanted to let you know there _were_ options out there that aren't typically known of
[22:51] <Bilby> aye aye
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[22:52] <tawr> i bought paint yesterday, i want to try / learn how to do swirl painting
[22:52] <tawr> my nephew wants to do his guitar, i have a few pelican cases i'd like to try
[22:53] <Bilby> I can just about paint a flat wall.
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[22:57] <Bilby> actually i can paint vehicles as well, as long as I have an air gun and the time to do it.
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[22:59] <theborger> I have been looking at the GPIO pins on the Rpi B+ and I don't see any audio outs. Are there no pins for this?
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[23:00] <Ryccardo> there are no pins that are inherently audio outputs (except for the audio jack, heh) but it could be theoretically possible to write a driver that accepted audio to do PWM or something...
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[23:01] <theborger> Ryccardo: ok thanks, I'll just hook on to the auido pins on the 3.5mm jack need to track down a adjustable amp. Thanks
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[23:03] <Bilby> yet another time i'd prefer to have a half-built version of the pi :P
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[23:04] <Ryccardo> compute module? :P
[23:05] <Ryccardo> or old model A
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[23:06] <Bilby> the problem (to me) with the compute module is the amount of stuff that has to be added
[23:07] <Bilby> i'd prefer to just have an A+ or B+ / 2 with all of the through-hole parts unpopulated
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[23:07] <Bilby> just do the impossible BGA and pain in the butt SMT parts, and let me decide what else to put on. not good as a first Pi, but great as a third
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[23:30] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm, I suck at python
[23:31] <Sonny_Jim> Say I have a string called message, and I want to set the first char of that string to 0x03 (not the character 3), how would I do that?
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[23:31] <Sonny_Jim> I guess I'm looking for the equivalnt of message[0] = 0x03; in python
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[23:35] <Berg> http://www.pythoncentral.io/how-to-get-a-substring-from-a-string-in-python-slicing-strings/
[23:36] <Sonny_Jim> Hmm, no
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[23:36] <Sonny_Jim> I think the problem is that I'm thinking with a C brain, where a string is an array of chars
[23:36] <Sonny_Jim> Really, I want a list
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[23:39] <ShorTie> think his lookin for a strcpy or memcpy type thing
[23:40] <Sonny_Jim> Well, not strcpy, but probably more like memcpy
[23:41] <Sonny_Jim> To elaborate, I want to send a byte array using UDP
[23:42] <Sonny_Jim> Before, my UDP program was just sending strings, which was OK, but really I should be sending raw bytes
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[23:46] <Sonny_Jim> To answer my own question, you'd do something like this:
[23:46] <Sonny_Jim> data += struct.pack("i", 3)
[23:51] <Berg> pickle
[23:51] <Berg> still looking
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