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IRC Log for 2015-07-05

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[1:34] * Topic is 'Unofficial RaspberryPi IRC channel but "Blessed" by the Foundation as the ONE channel. Logs @ http://srv.datagutt1.com <> Channel Rules as of 6 May '14: http://tiny.cc/h7za1w <> Getting help on IRC: http://tiny.cc/p9za1w'
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[5:09] <LarrySteeze> hello folks
[5:10] <chupacabra> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhu807VUY24
[5:11] <CoJaBo_> Aaand it's blocked.
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[6:16] <[Saint]> My calendar says you're a day late anyway.
[6:20] <ThinkingofPython> I got all excited
[6:21] <ThinkingofPython> saw a search engine result for "Education fund now open"
[6:21] <ThinkingofPython> clicked on it, post date, 2014
[6:21] * ThinkingofPython sadface
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[6:24] <[Saint]> The idea of paying for education is largely foreign to me.
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[6:26] <ThinkingofPython> heh
[6:27] <[Saint]> ThinkingofPython: qualify for the scheme, move to New Zealand, get largely free education - and then abruptly move, sinking our economy and widening the skill gap.
[6:27] <ThinkingofPython> I want to apply for it, because I'm developing an educational tool using the Pi2
[6:27] <[Saint]> ...everyone else does.
[6:27] <ThinkingofPython> Oh, you're misunderstanding me :P
[6:27] <ThinkingofPython> I mean the Pi Education fund
[6:27] <[Saint]> Ah.
[6:27] <ThinkingofPython> I already have a degree in Comp sys (was free, disability), and have a scholarship to get another degree in Comp sci currently :)
[6:28] <[Saint]> Yeah - skilled educators in this sector is a definite need.
[6:28] <ThinkingofPython> I work as a IT and English teacher in China.
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[6:28] <[Saint]> We have children who lived their entire lives in a connected society, being taught by people who often have no idea how to send a Tweet or use a common browser.
[6:28] <[Saint]> Not a fun mix.
[6:28] <ThinkingofPython> Exactly.
[6:29] <ThinkingofPython> My device is to solve this issue of people using phones, tablets, etc everyday
[6:29] <ThinkingofPython> but not knowing what is inside them, how they work
[6:29] <ThinkingofPython> etc
[6:29] <ThinkingofPython> This is not like the 90's or early 2000's, where only people who knew IT had phones, game consoles, etc
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[6:30] <ThinkingofPython> Now, we live in the age of technology. Everyone has a big screen TV, smart phone, tablet, game console, etc, but not many (in comparison to how many have them) know programming, or know how everything operates
[6:30] <ThinkingofPython> "Oh nice phone! Samsung Galaxy! What CPU is that?"
[6:30] <ThinkingofPython> "Oh the CPU is Android" wut
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[6:46] <McBride36> tbh not an incredible amount of people know what goes on in their portables
[6:46] <McBride36> I mean, i've got a ton of gadgets, phones, tablets etc and i couldn't tell ya what is in them as far as specs go
[6:49] <[Saint]> A lot of people seem to think that those devices are impermeable boxes of magic with nothing they could ever possible hope to govern or control inside.
[6:50] <McBride36> well
[6:50] <McBride36> i found out a couple weeks ago that the bootloader for my phone hasn't even been cracked yet >:(
[6:50] <McBride36> so i DO have an impermeable box of magic
[6:50] <[Saint]> That's not necessarily true.
[6:51] <[Saint]> Many devices are wide open, despite having currently locked bootloaders.
[6:51] <[Saint]> That's just taking the most obvious approach - when there's a whole host of priv escalation exploits to pick from.
[6:52] <McBride36> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[6:52] <McBride36> at this point, i'd rather just buy a new/more open phone
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[6:52] <McBride36> easiest way to avoid headaches heh
[6:52] <[Saint]> What device is this you speak of?
[6:52] <McBride36> samsung galaxy s4 active
[6:53] <McBride36> it's an AT&T exclusive with a very small international market
[6:53] <McBride36> after lollipop came out, the traditional root methods didn't work anymore
[6:54] <[Saint]> If you like being able to poke at such devices, OTAs are not your friend.
[6:54] <McBride36> what does OTA mean?
[6:54] <[Saint]> You could be soaking up that sweet sweet 5.1.1 community support by now.
[6:55] <[Saint]> Over The Air (Update)
[6:55] <McBride36> ah
[6:55] <McBride36> well
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[6:55] <McBride36> problem is, i'm limited
[6:55] <McBride36> i wear a hearing aid and i pretty much need to be able to test devices so i'm limited to what the store sells and allows for testing
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[6:59] <[Saint]> In that case look at testing from a brick and mortar store from your telco - and then ordering the international LTE variant dev edition direct from Sansumg.
[6:59] <[Saint]> If your telco doesn't allow device imports - switch.
[7:00] <McBride36> not sure tbh, on parents plan so i will find that out!
[7:00] <[Saint]> The US-telco-ridden Samsung variants are almost exclusively locked down out of the box and near impenetrable.
[7:01] <[Saint]> A few years back, they were a lot slower to catch up.
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[7:02] <McBride36> that's unfortunate because samsung works extremely well with my hearing aid
[7:03] <McBride36> but with the advent of sticking bluetooth into everything, that's slowly becoming less of an issue
[7:03] <[Saint]> I was just going to ask that. I guess that answers that question.
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[7:03] <[Saint]> Yeah - BTLE pretty much fixes that right up - but new hearing aides are damn expensive.
[7:03] <McBride36> they haven't QUITE stuck bluetooth into hearing aids yet but i have a device that connects to it
[7:04] <McBride36> oh tell me about it, i purchased a new one about a year ago, 1.7k USD right there
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[7:04] <[Saint]> (AFAIK they've been doing BTLE hearing aidea for years now...no?)
[7:05] <[Saint]> Since 2012-ish
[7:05] <McBride36> eh, at least with phonak, the brand i have, i can't connect the phone to my hearing aid directly
[7:05] <McBride36> i however have a device (i can link you if you're interested) that acts as a go between the phone and hearing aid
[7:05] <McBride36> works excellent for telephone calls, terribly for music
[7:07] <[Saint]> I was thinking - I mean, we have BTLE stereo wireless in-ear headphones for mass consumers, so it isn't a huge leap to see this in the medical field. It was something I was vaguely aware existed, a small amount of Googlin' seems to confirm that.
[7:07] <McBride36> if it has existed which i don't doubt, it's not immediately availible to me
[7:07] <McBride36> hearing is such a finicky thing
[7:09] <McBride36> by hearing, i mean audio compression, every engineer has their own way of compressing and it drastically changes hearing
[7:09] <[Saint]> celt/opus is the future here.
[7:09] <[Saint]> and, somewhat, the current - though adoption is slow.
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[7:11] <McBride36> brief googling, that stuff appears to be cochlear implants?
[7:12] <[Saint]> dynamic compression audio codec.
[7:12] <[Saint]> with extremely low latencies.
[7:12] <McBride36> i'd have to test before i could make a decision
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[7:14] <[Saint]> it is extremely well suited to medical hearing technologies, streaming, VOIP, et al.
[7:14] <[Saint]> though a subset of ancient technologies still dominates this field.
[7:15] <McBride36> probably because of users like me lol
[7:15] <McBride36> i hail from analog hearing aid era
[7:16] <[Saint]> opus is like a marriage between the silk and celt projects.
[7:16] <[Saint]> but I believe I'm a bit more interested in audio formats that most...heh.
[7:17] <[Saint]> not exactly everyday conversation.
[7:17] <McBride36> i was gonna say, you seem rather educated about this than most anyone i've met, including myself
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[7:48] <genewitch> [Saint]: what audio formats
[7:51] <[Saint]> primarily recent and not-so-recent advances in lossy codecs.
[7:51] <[Saint]> I don't find lossless codecs particularly interesting - as lossless is lossless is lossless.
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[7:52] <[Saint]> so - celt, opus, speex, ogg et al.
[7:55] <[Saint]> I don't honestly think any of the lossless formats are particularly interesting in any way really actually. Since it has been proven fairly conclusively time and time again that an overwhelming percentage of the population can't conclusively discern WAVpack or FLAC from MP3@256
[7:56] <[Saint]> A rather huge percentage of the population can't discern between lossless formats and much lower bitrate LAME encoding either.
[7:56] <[Saint]> Though almost everyone /thinks/ they can.
[7:57] <[Saint]> But there's a point where optimizing these codecs stops being interesting. LAME for example. realtime decode of LAME 320 in ~8MHz for example.
[7:57] <[Saint]> ...on ancient silicon.
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[8:43] <RoundDuckMan> I need help with my Pi, I'm using the google coder distro, and how do I connect to my Pi via Arch?
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[8:44] <RoundDuckMan> Hello anybody?
[8:45] <RoundDuckMan> Well I'll do to a different IRC channel.
[8:45] <RoundDuckMan> *go to
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[8:45] <ShorTie> impatient peeps, lol.
[8:46] <[Saint]> He almost waited a whole 2 minutes!
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[8:48] <Berg> hi
[8:49] <Berg> fine ill say hi elsewhere
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[8:50] <ShorTie> that is a statement, not a question, so no response needed .. :)~
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[8:51] <Berg> ner ner
[8:51] <Berg> its ok im trolling
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[8:51] <Berg> well not realy
[8:51] <Berg> just sorta
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[10:34] <Moonsilence> Hi! I don't quite understand sudo. It lets a user perform a command needing root privs, so it promts for a password and yet accepts pi's password who is not root. Can someone please explain? And what is root's password really?
[10:35] <at0m|c> Moonsilence: you give user pass in sudo to become root,in order to auth as the user (as opposed to browser java script)
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[10:35] <Moonsilence> So can any user use sudo and provide his own password?
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[10:36] <Moonsilence> What is special about the pi-user?
[10:36] <at0m|c> as per sudo visudo, yes
[10:38] <Moonsilence> I still dont understand. If any user can use sudo and his personal password to get root privs... how do you control the which user is permitted to use sudo?
[10:38] <at0m|c> pi user is special in that it's the default on many pi distro's, with a simple password and on sudoers list. change that pass quick ;)
[10:38] <at0m|c> Moonsilence: sudo visudo
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[10:38] <at0m|c> man visudo
[10:40] <Moonsilence> Does the root user actually exist and has a password?
[10:40] <Tachyon`> yes, you can reset the root password
[10:41] <at0m|c> Moonsilence: root user has uid 0, you can set password sudo passwd
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[10:45] <Moonsilence> Then if root acutally has a password, why does using sudo not promt for root's password, but promts for the password of the user using sudo? This is confusing to me.
[10:46] <at0m|c> Moonsilence: you can hand out certain users the right to execute certain apps using sudo
[10:46] <at0m|c> if they had root pass, they'd have full root
[10:46] <shauno> sudo's meant to scale into multi-user environments. so you can set it up so that, eg, bob has access to restart services. jeff has access to add & remove users, etc
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[10:48] <shauno> this only works if jeff actually authenticates as 'jeff'. so that's how it's set up. you authenticate to sudo as yourself, and sudo decides how much privs you're allowed
[10:51] <Moonsilence> Thanks!
[10:52] <Moonsilence> So then what is the root's password set to after installing raspbian? All I was provided was the password for pi.
[10:53] <at0m|c> Moonsilence: not sure if it's set, but feel free to change it 'sudo passwd' then you can 'su' instead of sudo
[10:54] <at0m|c> it's unset, sudo grep root /etc/shadow
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[10:57] <Moonsilence> So to administer a linux system, you don't actually ever need the root's password, but instead can use sudo (provided you are listed in sudoers) to temporarily obtain root's privs for a command. Did I get that right?
[10:57] * SirLagz rolls in
[10:57] <at0m|c> correct
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[10:57] <Moonsilence> Thanks
[10:58] <normalra> Moonsilence: sometimes I wish many things were explained to me like that :/
[11:04] <Moonsilence> What is generally the difference between man command and command --help?
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[11:06] <at0m|c> Moonsilence: --help is sometimes the same, but usually a short summary
[11:06] <at0m|c> normalra: then ask :p
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[11:10] <Encrypt> Moonsilence, Some programs do not have a manpage
[11:10] <Encrypt> And the help can be got thanks to command --help
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[11:12] <at0m|c> yea the --help is built-in, man uses its own .gz file
[11:13] <normalra> at0m|c: well, sometimes things are so confusing that asking only makes it even more confusing c:
[11:13] <Encrypt> normalra, :D
[11:14] <normalra> however, spending time studying what I want to understand is pretty effective!
[11:14] <at0m|c> linux is well documented. by, and for users
[11:15] <at0m|c> (overall, especially compared to that Redmond OS)
[11:17] <normalra> for instance, I wanted to understand the extremely confusing workflow of a project that borrowed, forked, changed, did all kinds of things from other projects. how is it structured? who has a say in what gets merged? does a dedicated team plan what they do or do others 'submit a change and hope it gets merged'.
[11:18] <normalra> in the end, you kinda realize this from diving into the project :)
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[11:22] <at0m|c> or get the fast-forward from https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/start.en.html
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[16:57] <SirLagz> so my Blog post was accurate enough for me to follow after my Pi blew up. woot.
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[16:59] <abnormal> how the heck you blow it up?
[17:00] <SirLagz> didn't actually blow up. The SD card crapped itself
[17:00] <abnormal> awww,, poor SD card, did you clean it up and send it to emergency room?
[17:01] <SirLagz> lol
[17:01] <SirLagz> nah, just wiped it
[17:01] <SirLagz> :D
[17:01] <abnormal> oh, goodie... ;P
[17:01] <SirLagz> the SD card died pretty good. wouldn't write anymore
[17:02] <abnormal> I've been fighting for long time trying to get my pi to talk to lappy and no luck
[17:02] <SirLagz> luckily I had a spare
[17:02] <SirLagz> abnormal: how are the 2 connected?
[17:02] <abnormal> wow
[17:02] <abnormal> ethernet cable
[17:02] <abnormal> cat 5
[17:03] <SirLagz> abnormal: connected through a router ? or directly?
[17:03] <SirLagz> router/switch/modemrouter/some-sort-of-interconnect
[17:03] <abnormal> zenmap says host is down, no router, directly connected
[17:04] <SirLagz> abnormal: got Static IP addresses on both hosts?
[17:04] <abnormal> no
[17:04] <abnormal> don't know how to do that
[17:04] <SirLagz> abnormal: you'll need to do that to get them talking to each other
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[17:05] <abnormal> I got into the SD card and put in ip=x.x.x.x in boot
[17:05] <abnormal> but not in lappy
[17:05] <SirLagz> abnormal: what's ifconfig show on the Pi ?
[17:05] <abnormal> k, min...
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[17:06] <abnormal> eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr c4:54:44:4c:60:4b
[17:06] <abnormal> UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
[17:07] <SirLagz> abnormal: so the Pi doesn't have an IP address
[17:07] <SirLagz> abnormal: what distro are you running on the PI ?
[17:07] <abnormal> I guess not
[17:07] <abnormal> raspbian
[17:07] <SirLagz> abnormal: modify /etc/network/interfaces to set a static ip address
[17:08] <abnormal> on pi or lappy?
[17:08] <SirLagz> abnormal: Pi
[17:08] <SirLagz> what OS is your lappy running?
[17:08] <abnormal> ubuntu
[17:09] <SirLagz> cool. Same thing on your lappie then too to set a static ip address
[17:09] <abnormal> I have no monitor for pi
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[17:09] <SirLagz> abnormal: power it down and stick the SD card into your lappie and modify it from there
[17:09] <abnormal> I have to take SD card out and put in lappy and do mods on that
[17:10] <abnormal> where do I modify it on SD card?
[17:10] <SirLagz> sd cards /etc/network/interfaces file
[17:11] <abnormal> ok there, what do I put in the file?
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[17:12] <SirLagz> abnormal: http://elinux.org/RPi_Setting_up_a_static_IP_in_Debian
[17:12] <abnormal> ok ty.
[17:13] <SirLagz> abnormal: no problems
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[17:14] <abnormal> ty, it'll take me a while.. gotta go to boom boom room, lol
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[17:38] <abnormal> it won't let me save the file, "read only"
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[17:47] <abnormal> SirLagz: you still alive?
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[17:50] <SirLagz> abnormal: sorry, yes
[17:50] <SirLagz> abnormal: wandered off for a sec
[17:51] <SirLagz> abnormal: are you modifying the file as root?
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[17:53] <abnormal> it won't let me save it
[17:54] <SirLagz> abnormal: are you modifying the file as root?
[17:54] <abnormal> I dunno if I am root or nermal
[17:54] <SirLagz> abnormal: how did you open the file to modify it?
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[17:54] <abnormal> how do I know , I used files icon
[17:55] <SirLagz> so probably not...
[17:55] <at0m|c> abnormal: open console. sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[17:55] <abnormal> ok min...
[17:56] <abnormal> but it opened the one on lappy, not the SD card
[17:57] <at0m|c> abnormal: open console. sudo nano /mount/point/of/card/etc/network/interfaces
[17:57] <SirLagz> abnormal: replace the /etc/network/interfaces with the path to the one on the SD card
[17:57] <abnormal> # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)
[17:57] <abnormal> auto lo
[17:57] <abnormal> iface lo inet loopback
[17:57] <at0m|c> don't paste here
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[17:58] <at0m|c> abnormal: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Configuring_the_interface_manually
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[17:59] <at0m|c> adjust per taste ;p
[17:59] <abnormal> ok ty, take me a while, I am very slow..
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[18:47] <langlee> Hi, has anyone set up Gqrx SDR on raspberrypi
[18:48] <ShorTie> never heard of it to be honest
[18:49] <langlee> It a type of Software Defined Radio
[18:49] <ShorTie> i see, it's in apt-cache
[18:50] <ShorTie> i'm sure Mr.Google got notes on how to set it up in Debian
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[18:51] <langlee> Ok I will look there and see if there is anything new on it
[18:53] <ShorTie> "raspberry pi Gqrx SDR" even brings up some interesting stuff
[18:53] <ShorTie> amazing
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[19:53] <Moonsilence> Hi! What do the different color file or dirnames mean in ls?
[19:54] <ShorTie> sortta tells what they are, weather it be a file, directory or what not, for easy reference
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[19:55] <ShorTie> they can be changed up in .bashrc
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[19:55] <BCMM> Moonsilence: basically, different types of file. /etc/DIR_COLORS defines them on some distros
[19:56] <BCMM> and more directly the $LS_COLORS variable
[19:57] <BCMM> Moonsilence: i don't know what distro you use, but on mine (gentoo) it tries to put all archives (zip tar whatever) in red, all multimedia in green, and so on
[19:57] <BCMM> mulimedia in blue actually. whatever.
[20:00] * ShorTie uses Gentoo .bashrc for his raspbian, hehe.
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[20:05] <amospalla> hi
[20:06] <Moonsilence> BCMM, thanks! I am using raspbian on my pi to which I am ssh-ing via putty from Windows... if any of that affects the aforementioned colors.
[20:06] <amospalla> Do you know of any stand support for rasp? I want to build one with an LCD, but I want to be able to rotate it so I can see it on a good angle.
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[20:15] <Moonsilence> ls
[20:15] <Moonsilence> ups
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[20:29] <amospalla> I should look for any standard tablet stand, that should suffice.
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[20:47] <Moonsilence> df
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[20:53] <Moonsilence> Thanks
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[21:01] * ozzzy reloads the pi
[21:02] <Berg> I need more sdcards so i can have dozens of PI set ups
[21:03] <abnormal> well go to walmart and buy them
[21:03] <Berg> we have no wallmart here
[21:03] <Berg> sorry
[21:03] <ozzzy> I have a pile of them
[21:04] <ozzzy> I get them from old cellphones and smartphones that people pitch out
[21:04] <abnormal> ok what do you have in your area?
[21:04] <Berg> sounds like a plan
[21:04] <abnormal> or yard sales
[21:04] <ozzzy> we collect phones to recycle at a buck each for scouts
[21:04] <Berg> i have 1 milk cow 20,000 sheep and a tractor that is used as a chicken coop
[21:04] <ozzzy> it's amazing what people take pictures of
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[21:05] <Berg> hehehe
[21:05] <abnormal> snoop
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[21:05] <ozzzy> hey... you leave the card in I'll look at it
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[21:05] <Berg> are the cell phone ones micro sdcards?
[21:05] <ozzzy> yep
[21:06] <Berg> ill go find some old fones now
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[21:06] <Berg> i wonder if they drop from airplanes
[21:07] <Berg> afk me and the dog are going fone hunting
[21:07] <therion23> a cellphone sniffing dog? now that i want to see
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[21:07] <Berg> nenene
[21:07] <abnormal> lol'
[21:08] <abnormal> I'll be damned if there is one...
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[21:08] <Berg> http://gallery.anotherpower.com/main.php/d/28835-2/SDC10504.JPG
[21:08] <Berg> :)
[21:09] <Berg> his name is wally
[21:09] <therion23> i was about to make a silly joke about gigaflops but i cannot make it come out funny
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[21:11] <abnormal> Berg: don't forget tablets, Nooks, I fones, pi's, etc
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[21:16] <abnormal> also cameras have micro and standard SD cards
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[21:30] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[21:30] <mattwj2002> is there a free android build for raspberry pi 2?
[21:31] <mattwj2002> there is one for $9 but that seems stupid
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[21:40] <Berg> razdroid?
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[21:41] <mattwj2002> berg I'll take a look
[21:42] <porglezomp> Has anyone on here done really simple audio programming?
[21:42] <mattwj2002> Berg: i have seen that before
[21:42] <mattwj2002> I was hoping for something a little more update
[21:42] <Berg> https://www.mepits.com/project/180/DIY-Projects/How-to-Install-Android-on-Raspberry-Pi-?
[21:42] <porglezomp> I want to be able to dump buffers into the audio system
[21:42] <Berg> this
[21:43] <Berg> i need more sdcards to play
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[21:48] <therion23> have anyone here actually tried Win 10 on the Pi 2?
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[21:52] <mattwj2002> therion23: isn't it only command line?
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[21:53] <therion23> mattwj2002: i actually have no idea, i signed up for it and went through the dread of installing Windows 10, and then i got the information you have to install Visual Studio as well, which is too much even for my patience
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[21:57] <mattwj2002> therion23: i won't waste your time
[21:58] <mattwj2002> it looks like another failed attempt at Microsoft of being cool
[21:58] <therion23> mattwj2002: you sure aren't, was just asking for what people think of it
[21:58] <therion23> well yeah, but isn't that business as usual? :)
[21:58] <mattwj2002> hehe
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[21:59] <mattwj2002> true dat B-)
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[22:09] <molgrum> can i do a shutdown -h now on the Pi1 and still be able to power it up by reinserting the usb power?
[22:10] <stevethesmith> works on pi2
[22:10] <stevethesmith> what about sudo halt
[22:10] <molgrum> stevethesmith: i can check, is it better?
[22:12] <stevethesmith> tbh, i dont know whether its better. im kind of new to the pi. but thats what i use when im ready to unplug it and have never had issues. always boots up when i plug it back in
[22:12] <molgrum> yes i have it
[22:12] <molgrum> alright
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[22:17] <shauno> halt and shutdown -h are exactly the same thing
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[22:19] <stevethesmith> thought so. just wasnt sure
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[22:29] <porglezomp> Has anyone on here done OpenMAX?
[22:30] <porglezomp> I don't actually know if OpenMAX is right for my project
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[22:32] <at0m|c> porglezomp: /j #openmax and ask
[22:33] <porglezomp> Of course, there's a channel for everything
[22:33] <porglezomp> Thanks
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[22:48] <molgrum> hi i did a "sudo halt" but the red, green and yellow leds are still on. i've waited 5-10 minutes for it to shut down
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[22:50] <molgrum> one of the green ones flashes
[22:50] <Encrypt> molgrum, There is no screen connected to your pi?
[22:50] <molgrum> Encrypt: no, i've removed X
[22:51] <at0m|c> molgrum: did you do that on ssh? retry ssh?
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[22:51] <molgrum> at0m|c: yes ssh, says no route to host now
[22:51] <at0m|c> normally after shutdown there's only red led right
[22:52] <at0m|c> maybe it stuck on network mounts or so? wait for them to time out?
[22:52] <molgrum> i can try to remve the ethenret cable
[22:53] <at0m|c> not sure if that will solcve the time-out, if that's what's holding back the shutdow,
[22:54] <molgrum> yep, now just a red light
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[22:54] <at0m|c> that's powered, but off :)
[22:54] <molgrum> yeah, thanks
[22:54] <at0m|c> for sitting it out with you :p
[22:54] <molgrum> cheerioh
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[22:55] <Encrypt> Hum...
[22:55] <Encrypt> Are you sure?
[22:56] <Encrypt> Because if there is no wire connected, then the ethernet-relted light will necessarily be off
[22:56] <[Saint]> sudo halt waits for no man.
[22:56] <[Saint]> errr...process.
[22:56] <Encrypt> related*
[22:57] <at0m|c> he's gone. but he was talking about the leds near the power led
[22:57] <at0m|c> i think
[22:57] <[Saint]> as was Encrypt I would think.
[22:58] <at0m|c> all his lights were off, apart from the red power light. so all good.
[22:58] <at0m|c> molgrum> yep, now just a red light
[22:59] <at0m|c> Encrypt: he was shutting it down over ssh, so networked.
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[23:12] <zelag> Hi, what would you recommend to power 6 raspberry pi b+ simultaneously ? using a powered usb hub or using plugging everything to a 5v 6ampish dc power converter ?
[23:14] <NedScott> they make some nice multi-chargers for people with multiple phones/tablets
[23:14] <NedScott> I would use one of those because they make sure to provide a good amperage on each USB port
[23:14] <nid0> you'd probably need to do quite a bit of shopping round to find a 6A+ hub
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[23:15] <NedScott> http://amzn.com/B00OJ79UK6
[23:15] <zelag> something like this : http://goo.gl/sCQGC7 ?
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[23:15] <zelag> ok nice one.
[23:16] <NedScott> yeah, like that
[23:17] <zelag> I'll get one of those, thanks !
[23:17] <NedScott> anytime
[23:17] <NedScott> I'm kind of tempted to buy that myself now, haha
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