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IRC Log for 2015-07-08

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[0:00] <Gadgetoid> Kano
[0:00] <blockh34d> thats the one
[0:00] <blockh34d> wtf is up with that
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[0:00] <Gadgetoid> I like Kano, nice guys there, but I dislike that they win awards for basically a reboxing
[0:00] <blockh34d> maybe i'm missing something
[0:00] <blockh34d> right?
[0:00] <blockh34d> i mean how is that anything but a rpi and a couple mail ordered gadgets? seems like hype
[0:01] <Gadgetoid> Their software efforts are incredible though, the Kano OS was good when I last checked it out, and can't have got worse, and they're having fun and spreading the love
[0:01] <blockh34d> but hey, if it gets more kids into programming, great
[0:01] <blockh34d> exactly
[0:01] <blockh34d> good for them
[0:01] <blockh34d> i think my beef is more with the news
[0:01] <Gadgetoid> Really nice guys though, specially Matthew Keegan, he's like their ambassador of love
[0:02] <Gadgetoid> It's completely impossible for people not to like him- which I find hilarious since I've seen many Kano haters just completely worn down by his lovable demeanour
[0:02] <blockh34d> oh ok well i'll try to tone down my rage then but it kinda ticked me off at the time
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[0:02] <Gadgetoid> He might be a robot...
[0:03] <blockh34d> haha i should take a page
[0:03] <blockh34d> my people skills kinda need work
[0:03] <Gadgetoid> You have to hate on CHIP now, the $9 lie
[0:03] <Gadgetoid> Yeah I'm berift of any legitimite people skills, but I think I fake it well enough
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[0:07] <blockh34d> nah you seem nice enough to me. I think living in cincinnati and new jersey both kinda messed me up a little when it comes to manners
[0:08] <blockh34d> both of those places have a unique situation i found where being nice is highly suspect, like you're about to rob someone if you're nice to them
[0:08] <blockh34d> so theres a defacto mandatory minimum jerkiness at place, almost everywhere constantly and its expected
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[0:08] <blockh34d> it stuck, now my jerk meter does not have a 0 setting
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[0:21] <blockh34d> cya
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[0:24] <Gadgetoid> Hurrah, certified no a jerk!
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[0:27] <Phosie> Hi guys, this might sound silly but how do I disable the motion part of motion? :P
[0:27] <Phosie> Whenever something goes past my camera motion freaks out (the webpage refreshes rapidly) and then crashes
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[1:09] <PanicSkittle> hey guys, I got some flex cables for the camera...any good way to connect them end to end?
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[1:10] <ShorTie> flex cables ??
[1:11] <PanicSkittle> https://www.adafruit.com/products/1731
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[1:13] <ShorTie> you need to wrap those with aluminum foil to guard against rf
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[1:27] <shaun413> hello
[1:27] <shaun413> how good would a raspberry pi be for optical tracking?
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[1:37] <shaun413> is there a way to send PPM signal through a raspi?
[1:37] <hoherd> shaun413: can you be a little more specific?
[1:38] <shaun413> 5-10 microsend pulses from the pins..
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[1:38] <shaun413> microsecond
[1:38] <hoherd> oh, through the GPIO?
[1:38] <shaun413> yes
[1:38] <hoherd> i've seen some people doing that kind of thing with IR
[1:38] <shaun413> id like to interface with an RC flight controller
[1:38] <ShorTie> i think a Adruino would be better suited
[1:38] <shaun413> arduino doesnt allow for openCV and optical tracking..
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[1:44] <b00ger_daddy> PPM signal?
[1:44] <Phosie> PWM perhaps?
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[1:47] <shaun413> well
[1:47] <shaun413> PPm...'
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[4:36] <Hydr0> Hello everyone i recently tried building and running mupen64plus with ricevideo. It seems to want to load okay but it doesnt output on my display. I have a TFT LCD hooked up. When I start X it displays on the LCD but other than that the mupen64 / other emulators seem to just run in background leaving me at the terminal. Any Suggestions? Thanks.
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[4:55] <JakeSays> anyone know what the fastest microsd card speed the raspi2 can handle?
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[4:55] <Berg> i had a sandisk 42mb/s running
[4:56] <JakeSays> i can get one that goes up to 95mb/s, but wouldnt do much good if the raspi cant handle it
[4:56] <Berg> yeah cant help there
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[5:22] <abnormal> JakeSays: I would stick with class 10 40mbs cards.. mainly Sandisk ones
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[5:31] <JakeSays> i ordered a sandisk extreme something
[5:31] <JakeSays> 60mb/s
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[5:33] <abnormal> sheesh.. poor pi
[5:33] <abnormal> it's going to say "hey, what are you doing to me? I have enuf work to do"
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[5:44] <JakeSays> it wont actually use it all
[5:44] <JakeSays> the benchmarks i've seen on that card max out at ~22mb/s
[5:45] <abnormal> that's slow
[5:46] <abnormal> I don't buy the ultra or extreme cards, just standard class 10
[5:47] <JakeSays> hmm. will my gertboard still work with the raspi 2?
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[5:49] <abnormal> should
[5:49] <abnormal> I see no reason not.
[5:50] <abnormal> just make sure you hook it up correctly.
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[7:44] <Berg> installing minibian
[7:44] <Berg> looks nasty
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[7:44] <Berg> its got nothing in it
[7:44] <CoJaBo_> ..?
[7:45] <Berg> whats does ..? mean?
[7:46] <Berg> https://minibianpi.wordpress.com/setup/ MINIBIAN: MINImal raspBIAN image for Raspberry Pi
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[8:40] <AM> still easier than linux from scratch
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[8:49] <Berg> i just shot me dog i feel better now
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[9:18] <Crom> cq cq kf6pqz kf6pqz
[9:19] <Crom> KD7JWC, how are you doing psk31?
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[9:21] <Crom> I just got a $10 easy digi board for the kenwood TS-560 and will be hooking it up next week. I have to find my rs-232 <-> usb adapter or mod the easy digi to handle TTL RS-232
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[10:14] <bauhaus1919> hello all, are there any browsers that have hardware acceleration for raspberry pi?
[10:14] <doomlord> good question
[10:15] <doomlord> hows youtube on the rpi these days
[10:15] <bauhaus1919> ive seen articles for accelerated video
[10:15] <doomlord> do you still need another means of getting the videos
[10:15] <bauhaus1919> but specifically, the canvas
[10:16] <bauhaus1919> webgl would be nice too
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[10:17] <bauhaus1919> you know the <canvas> element
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[10:19] <The_Borg> https://www.youtube.com/html5
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[10:21] <bauhaus1919> hardware accelerated canvas, would allow me to build some incredible things
[10:22] <shiftplusone> that's up to the developers of the browser engine you want to use.
[10:22] <shiftplusone> (but I'm sure anholt's vc4 work will make it happen)
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[10:24] <bauhaus1919> sometimes i think just use the ogl directly
[10:24] <shiftplusone> (es, for now)
[10:26] <bauhaus1919> i feel less limited by es, to code it all in javascript where its all memory managed would be too cool
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[10:29] <shiftplusone> =/
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[10:35] <shiftplusone> sounds like you'd like qml
[10:35] <shiftplusone> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-vBbqamNBU
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[10:45] <bauhaus1919> that is memory managed
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[10:45] <bauhaus1919> so much is already done in javascript, heh, it would be nice to reuse code
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[10:46] <shiftplusone> qml supports (and favours) js
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[11:12] <bauhaus1919> its missing some browser stuff i believe
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[16:27] <Tenkawa> hi all
[16:28] <shiftplusone> Hello sir
[16:28] <Tenkawa> whats new?
[16:29] <shiftplusone> I've lost track
[16:29] <Tenkawa> heheheheh
[16:30] <Tenkawa> I'm trying to determine the best microsd strategy for my pi2's
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[16:30] <shiftplusone> hmm?
[16:31] <Tenkawa> trying to figure out which ones give best balance of read vs write spd
[16:32] <shiftplusone> I would focus more on reliability
[16:32] <Tenkawa> well thats what I have backups for too
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[16:34] <samskiter> anyone know about the raspberry pi and its ports?
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[16:34] <samskiter> pi camera*
[16:34] <samskiter> is the still port, preview port and video port
[16:34] <samskiter> ie*
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[16:35] <Tenkawa> shiftplusone: I'm also looking at trying to figure out if a native sata interface can be added via a board/etc
[16:35] <Tenkawa> I think not however thought I'd look around
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[16:36] <shiftplusone> samskiter: I may be able to scrape something from my brain
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[16:36] <shiftplusone> Tenkawa: not without putting many many hours in and using an FPGA
[16:36] <samskiter> shiftplusone: so the pi camera has modes and it has these ports. logically where is the mode selected?
[16:37] <samskiter> before the ports or after them? i.e. can each port heva a different mode
[16:37] <samskiter> specifically im thinking about the pi camera binning
[16:37] <shiftplusone> the camera doesn't really have ports, it's an openmax construct
[16:37] <Tenkawa> shiftplusone: I had a feeling that was the case;
[16:37] <samskiter> shiftplusone: okkkk. where is the binning done?
[16:37] <Tenkawa> shiftplusone: sata to usb it is then :)
[16:38] <samskiter> is that an openmax operation?
[16:38] <shiftplusone> samskiter: I'm not too familiar with what binning is (something about processing tiles into a larger image, IIRC?), but the GPU.
[16:39] <samskiter> shiftplusone: so binning is just part of the camera mode
[16:39] <samskiter> if you select anything under 1290x792 you get 2x2 binning, which is done “in the analogue domain”
[16:40] <samskiter> but i mean, can i select 1290x792 on the video port and full resolution on the still port?
[16:40] <shiftplusone> okay, this is a bit over my head. I'll crawl back in my hole.
[16:41] <shiftplusone> actually... sec.
[16:41] <samskiter> shiftplusone: im way over my head lol
[16:41] <shiftplusone> IIRC video and still resolutions are tied together, but let me check
[16:41] <samskiter> shiftplusone: relevant blog post https://www.raspberrypi.org/new-camera-mode-released/
[16:41] <nielsNL> Hello all,not sure of this is the right place. but i need some help because i like to use the wiringPi lib with PHP there is an extension created for this at https://github.com/WiringPi/WiringPi-PHP.git however this is for the old version of wiringPi. Is there someone that can help me convert that one to use the WiringPi2 lib? I already did some work but i get some issues.
[16:42] <shiftplusone> aha "preview and video ports need to run at the same resolution, and will get the same frames during normal operation. If they are both enabled with different parameters, then the video port takes preference and you'll get no preview.
[16:42] <shiftplusone> stills port enables lots of extra image processing, and is designed to work with a different resolution."
[16:42] <shiftplusone> so it's the previews and video which are tied together, still is separate
[16:43] <shiftplusone> *preview/viewfinder
[16:43] <shiftplusone> samskiter: this thread might be of interest https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=94228&p=656632
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[16:43] <shiftplusone> posts by 6by9 and jamesh
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[16:47] <samskiter> shiftplusone: very over my head. trying to establish pheasiblity of recording 1290x762 and still capturing at full res
[16:48] <samskiter> i think this is saying it’s posssible
[16:48] <shiftplusone> what's the distinction between capturing and recording?
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[16:50] <samskiter> shiftplusone: sorry i mean video stream at half-res and still photo capture at full res
[16:50] <shiftplusone> that's certainly possible.
[16:50] <shiftplusone> I had it showing showing full res video on screen, while passing a resized, black and white stream to opencv for processing
[16:50] <samskiter> im just not sure where the resize occurs in that setup.
[16:50] <samskiter> in the GPU?
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[16:50] <shiftplusone> yes, all the processing happens on the GPU
[16:51] <shiftplusone> the camera itself gives you and unusable, unprocessed mess.
[16:51] <samskiter> right, because my understanding was the binning was done on the sensor. or ive just totally misunderstood https://www.raspberrypi.org/new-camera-mode-released/
[16:51] <shiftplusone> *an
[16:51] <samskiter> see, the binning section
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[16:52] <samskiter> so the gpu is always getting shuttled full res frames, then the concept of different modes and different ports lives there?
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[16:52] <shiftplusone> the different ports definitely come from the GPU firmware
[16:53] <shiftplusone> it's part of the openmax implementation (which transfers to mmal)
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[16:53] <shiftplusone> but you're right in that the 'binning' is a feature of the sensor (from what I gather from that post), sorry.
[16:54] <shiftplusone> but that doesn't take away from the ability to resize the video as you require on the GPU
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[16:55] <samskiter> shiftplusone: so if i set up video stream with 1290x762, itll drop the sensor to 2x2 binning. then when i take the capture, the camera will be briefly upped to no binning mode, the gpu will receive a huge chunk more data, will resize that to 1290x762 on the video port and will pass it straight through to the stills port
[16:56] <samskiter> then it will auto drop back to 2x2 binning
[16:56] <shiftplusone> I think it will use the resolution it needs to support the highest one you've set up on the ports the entire time
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[16:57] <shiftplusone> the resizing for the port will happen on the GPU. mmal also has a 'resize' component you can use for this purpose.
[16:57] <samskiter> sorry, yea that’s what i mean
[16:57] <samskiter> but the stills port will only be used intermittently, so might not be set up
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[16:58] <ThinkingofPython> yey making a 4 bit adder (ripple carry) connected to a 4 bit NOT subtractor, to implement two's complement
[16:58] <ThinkingofPython> gotta love logic based work
[16:58] <shiftplusone> samskiter: you'll need to set it up beforehand
[16:58] <samskiter> i don’t mind a few dropped frames during the capture itself. sounds like with the h.264 encoding, jpeg encoding and the resizing going on i’ll max out the gpu/
[16:58] <samskiter> shiftplusone: ah ok
[16:58] <shiftplusone> samskiter: maybe start playing around with it and see how you go
[16:59] <shiftplusone> what language do you intend to use?
[16:59] <ThinkingofPython> shiftplusone Im still eagerly awaiting the opening of education fund :p
[16:59] <ThinkingofPython> July 8th and counting
[16:59] <shiftplusone> Well, it's July 8th here... O_o
[16:59] <ThinkingofPython> :P
[16:59] <ThinkingofPython> I meant it says it'll open in july
[16:59] <ThinkingofPython> only 22 (or 23?) more days to go heh
[17:00] <samskiter> shiftplusone: im investigating the pheasibility of what i can do. right now im using gstreamer from the command line, using the gst-rpicamsrcs module but it looks like the pythong PiCamera module exposed much more to me
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[17:00] <samskiter> exposes*
[17:00] <shiftplusone> samskiter: oh.... I only know about using mmal directly. PiCamera does indeed expose a lot of it, but you may need to fiddle with the source code.
[17:01] <shiftplusone> For learning purposes, I found C the easiest.
[17:01] <shiftplusone> documentation here: http://www.jvcref.com/files/PI/documentation/ilcomponents/
[17:01] <samskiter> ok. where did you start can I ask? with rapsivid?
[17:01] <ThinkingofPython> pyyyyttthhhooonnn
[17:01] <shiftplusone> http://www.jvcref.com/files/PI/documentation/html/
[17:01] <shiftplusone> samskiter: and yes, raspivid source code was my reference.
[17:02] <ppq> .oO(mmmhm, brains... err, python)
[17:02] <shiftplusone> picamera source code could be useful if you speak pythonese. It uses the same functions as raspivid
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[17:03] <samskiter> looking at this, if i setup the camera resolution to 1290x762 for streaming, it will probably drop into binned mode and then ill never be able to capture at high res http://picamera.readthedocs.org/en/release-1.6/recipes2.html#capturing-images-whilst-recording
[17:03] <samskiter> i speak more python than I do C. unfortunately I normally work a little higher up the stack than this so well out my depth :)
[17:04] <shiftplusone> I know for a fact you can take low res video and high res stills, or vice versa without interrupting the video at all.
[17:04] <shiftplusone> The question is what the best approach is and my answer would be one that works.... start playing around with it.
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[17:06] <samskiter> thanks shiftplusone… might be a while till this work gets the green light, but very useful information....
[17:06] <samskiter> https://github.com/waveform80/picamera/issues/125 is interesting read and makes a lot more sense now
[17:08] <trewq> I am looking for a simple ADC that mates with the pi B.. Do not want to solder or hunt for connectors.. This is the best one I have found so far: https://www.abelectronics.co.uk/products/17/Raspberry-Pi--Raspberry-Pi-2-Model-B/56/ADC-Pi-Plus---Raspberry-Pi-Analogue-to-Digital-converter .. I prefer to find a company in the US.. are there any other alternatives that you could recommend?
[17:09] <trewq> and something that is not $30 :)
[17:09] <shiftplusone> sounds like a fair price for laziness =P
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[17:11] <trewq> this one looks better http://www.adafruit.com/products/1085 but it does not seem to plug & play
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[17:15] <ThinkingofPython> shiftplusone If you can, let me know when the fund opens again
[17:15] <ThinkingofPython> If you're too busy, no worries.
[17:15] <ThinkingofPython> I don't always get a chance to check, due to chinese internet hating the raspberrypi site
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[17:18] <shiftplusone> ThinkingofPython: it has nothing to do with me or what I do
[17:18] <shiftplusone> I'm an engineer at raspberry pi trading
[17:19] <shiftplusone> the education fund is a foundation thing
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[17:21] <Vrooom> is there anything faster than class 10 when it comes to microsd ?
[17:21] <shiftplusone> Class 6
[17:21] <shiftplusone> for most applications
[17:21] <Vrooom> u see im trying to load windows 10 :)
[17:22] <ThinkingofPython> Oh
[17:22] <ThinkingofPython> Alright
[17:22] <ThinkingofPython> Didn't know how big you guys were
[17:23] <ThinkingofPython> sorry man
[17:23] <shiftplusone> ThinkingofPython: yeah, it would require me to turn around and walk 5 steps to the foundation side of the office =P
[17:23] <ThinkingofPython> lol
[17:23] <ThinkingofPython> Y U NO HELP ME AND ASK
[17:23] * ThinkingofPython is an educator
[17:23] * ThinkingofPython is also a procrastinator
[17:23] <shiftplusone> (I'd just feel odd going to them to say "some guy on the internet wants to do a thing")
[17:23] <ThinkingofPython> lol
[17:24] <ThinkingofPython> "So, hey, when do the funding open?"
[17:24] <ThinkingofPython> I meant more like, if you hear "The funding is now open" from an staff member, let me know
[17:24] <ThinkingofPython> just because I get 1 time a week to check lol
[17:24] <ThinkingofPython> but no worries
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[17:25] <shiftplusone> Alright, next time they're in.
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[17:25] * ppq postulates: >99.9% of irc users are procrastinators
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[17:25] <Draylor> and the other is a liar
[17:25] <shiftplusone> not true... many of us are waiting for code to compile.
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[17:26] <ThinkingofPython> Thanks shiftplusone
[17:26] <ThinkingofPython> Much appreciated
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[17:27] <Vrooom> can pi boot from USB stick?
[17:28] <shiftplusone> not without an SD card for the firmware and kernel
[17:28] <shiftplusone> rootfs can be on USB though
[17:28] <shiftplusone> with something like uboot, you can move the kernel off the sd card as well
[17:28] <ThinkingofPython> shiftplusone Ah, engineering talk alert: Right now, I'm making a nice circuit. Making a 4 bit 2 input full adder, connected to a full adder with NOT gates on all A inputs, to create a subtractor which uses 2's complement
[17:29] <ThinkingofPython> all by using gates, rather than an adder or subtractor logic itself lol
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[17:29] <shiftplusone> cool, seen nand2tetris?
[17:30] <ThinkingofPython> yep
[17:30] <shiftplusone> excellent
[17:30] <ThinkingofPython> Its part of my comp sci course currently ;p
[17:30] <shiftplusone> seen the guy who made it in minecraft?
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[17:30] <ThinkingofPython> Im a grad of comp sys, now doing comp sci, however the comp sci course is programming + engineering, rather than networking and such
[17:30] <ThinkingofPython> yeah, freaking cool
[17:31] <shiftplusone> excellent
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[17:31] <shiftplusone> Don't know if he actually built the full CPU. I've only seen the ALU, but still cool
[17:31] <ThinkingofPython> yeah
[17:31] <ThinkingofPython> Same, just seen the ALU
[17:31] <ThinkingofPython> Im making an ALU as we speak
[17:31] <ThinkingofPython> not in mc, though lol
[17:31] <ThinkingofPython> in logism ;D
[17:32] <shiftplusone> I'd go for myhdl
[17:33] <ThinkingofPython> Me too
[17:33] <ThinkingofPython> Except my course is like "Hey, YOU suck. Stop using industry standard stuff. Use logism"
[17:33] <ThinkingofPython> "You'll use it AND you'll enjoy it. No questions"
[17:33] <shiftplusone> heh
[17:34] <shiftplusone> couldn't call myhdl industry standard (that would probably be vhdl or verilog), but yeah, that's a shame.
[17:34] <shiftplusone> nothing wrong with logisim though
[17:35] <ThinkingofPython> mmm verilog
[17:35] <Vrooom> Can raspberry pi run off wifi router's usb ?
[17:35] <shiftplusone> the people in the office who have designed chips all seem to use verilog and xilinx tools
[17:35] <shiftplusone> Vrooom: depends how much power it can deliver and how well regulated it is.
[17:36] <shiftplusone> it may work if you don't attach other devices to the pi itself
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[18:05] <Duality> hi all
[18:05] <Duality> i am playing with the rpi 2 and i am wondering if i could blink one of the leds on the pcb ?
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[18:06] <shiftplusone> you can control the ACT one
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[18:07] <Duality> cool
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[18:34] <NedScott> I should see if I can get this $9 GPIO TFT screen to work on other things
[18:34] <NedScott> it didn't seem to use fbftf
[18:34] <NedScott> so I was stuck using the image provided by some random guy
[18:36] <Stanto> Vrooom: don't do it, down that way leads to brownouts
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[19:42] <voip> anyone link two rpi's together?
[19:43] <voip> distributed processing?
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[19:46] <ppq> yes, people did that
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[19:46] <ppq> there's no reason to do that apart from fun, though
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[19:48] <Squarepy> ppq, or if you want to build a cheap super computer
[19:48] <ppq> "cheap"
[19:48] <ppq> (it's not)
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[19:49] <Squarepy> <irony></irony>
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[19:51] <plugwash> hmm, haven't rerun the calculations since pi2 came out.
[19:52] <plugwash> The pi1 was clearly pretty poor on performance per dollar but the difference between pi1 and pi2 is much greater than the improvement in PC hardware over the same timespan
[19:55] <ali1234> i tried ubuntu-mate on a pi2 and i was really surprised how fast it is
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[19:56] <ali1234> it's about as fast as my old laptop
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[20:01] <qubitnerd> perhaps the "super-computing" power for certain types of calculations can be furthur improved by roping in the GPU too
[20:04] <tawr> not sure if it's done on the PI, but it's done all the time
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[20:06] <ozzzy_> I figure if you want a fast computer buy a fast computer... the Pi2 will never be one
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[20:16] <Mateon1> I'm having some sort of issue with my old Pi... I can't SSH into the box, and when I switch my monitor to the pi, with every keypress some I/O error happens. Can't execute any command. Stuff loaded into memory still seems to work
[20:17] <Mateon1> It logged to screen something about the filesystem being read-only
[20:18] <Mateon1> I have Arch installed on it
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[20:20] <Moonsilence> Hi! Can I make use of the command history to quickly reissue the previous command preceeded by sudo?
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[20:22] <pksato> Moonsilence: why you need to use sudo frequently?
[20:23] <Mateon1> Moonsilence: Depends on the shell. I changed my shell to fish. Now typing sudo followed by up autocompletes to the last command
[20:23] <Mateon1> (Repeating does what expected)
[20:24] <Mateon1> Ugh, I think I'll just plug my pi out of the wall
[20:25] <Moonsilence> If I get 'permission denied', it is sometime annoying to have to retype the whole command again preceeded by sudo.
[20:25] <Moonsilence> ...if it was a long command.
[20:25] <Mateon1> Can't you do up and then home and type sudo?
[20:25] <pksato> crtl+p
[20:25] <normalra> Moonsilence: try `sudo !!`
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[20:26] <Moonsilence> Mateon1, d'oh dindn't think of that, sorry. Thanks!
[20:26] <pksato> show previous history
[20:26] <Moonsilence> normalra, that's also good, thanks too!
[20:27] <pksato> or upper arrow. but...
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[20:30] <pksato> I think, have a short cut to append last command to current prompt.
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[20:36] <Moonsilence> Where is the vmlinuz file on raspbian?
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[20:37] <McBride36> sudo !! is a godsend
[20:38] <samskiter> hey, is there anything up with this pipeline? "rtspsrc latency=50 location=rtspt://192.168.1.1:8554/test ! queue ! rtph264depay ! h264parse ! mp4mux ! filesink location= %s"
[20:38] <samskiter> i get a file with non-zero size, but it won’t play
[20:40] <Moonsilence> I created my first link with ln. It works but it is not shows with file type 'l' in ls -l. Why?
[20:40] <teclo-> Moonsilence: perhaps you're confused between physical links and logical links
[20:41] <Moonsilence> teclo- yes perhaps. Infact in the term used in the tutorial I am studying was 'symbolic links'. Anyone care to explain the difference?
[20:42] <teclo-> uhhh sorry "symbolic links"
[20:42] <teclo-> the right wording is "hard links" and "symbolic links"
[20:42] <teclo-> for hard links, ln
[20:42] <teclo-> for symbolic links, ln -s
[20:42] <pksato> symbolic links create a new file pointing to original
[20:42] <pksato> or target
[20:43] <Moonsilence> I see, thanks
[20:43] <pksato> hard link only copy target inodes to link.
[20:43] <pksato> symbolic = new file
[20:43] <pksato> hard = same file
[20:43] <Moonsilence> copy of same file?
[20:43] <pksato> no
[20:43] <pksato> same file
[20:43] <Moonsilence> k
[20:44] <pksato> not really new file
[20:44] <pksato> new entry on file system.
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[20:44] <pksato> but, both are new entry. :P
[20:44] <Moonsilence> How is a hard link later distinguished as bein a link?
[20:44] <tawr> samskiter: uhm, why are you using "!" in your lines?
[20:45] <tawr> samskiter: it's an "except" operator, it doesn't make sense to use it like that
[20:45] <samskiter> tawr: wrong channel sorry
[20:46] <tawr> samskiter: and? you're getting an answer anyway
[20:46] <plugwash> To be more precise a hard link is a second directory entry for the same file. A symlink is a special type of file which points at another filename.
[20:46] <samskiter> tawr: it’s gstreamer syntax, that’s not he problem :)
[20:46] <plugwash> (and is followed when you open it or in the case of a symlink to a directory a file beyond it)
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[20:47] <pksato> Moonsilence: http://paste.debian.net/280304/
[20:48] <Moonsilence> pksato thanks... so the hardlink cannot be distinguished as a link?
[20:48] <pksato> this is more interesting http://paste.debian.net/280305/
[20:49] <pksato> see first column, is the inode used by file.
[20:49] <pksato> target and hardlink have same number.
[20:49] <plugwash> Moonsilence, you can see how many hardlinks there are to the file
[20:50] <plugwash> but you can't tell which was the original and which was the extra name you added
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[20:50] <Moonsilence> O.K.
[20:50] <Moonsilence> Interesting
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[21:13] <_0xc6_> Well, that's because hardlinks are just pointers to the inode on disk. The 'original' is a hardlink also.
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[21:34] <skroon> is the compute module already released?
[21:34] <skroon> or where can I find more info about it's latest status?
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[21:37] <Gadgetoid> :D coming soon: https://twitter.com/Gadgetoid/status/618767621887029248
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[21:45] <ali1234> Gadgetoid: touch sensitive or i have to wire my own switches? it's the same size as an A+ yeah?
[21:45] <ali1234> looks cool anyway
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[21:46] <ali1234> it has the hat connector? it's difficult to tell anything from that burrly photo :)
[21:46] <Gadgetoid> ali1234: It's touch sensitive, two cap touch chips for a total of 16 touch pads and 16 LEDs
[21:46] <Gadgetoid> Twitter murders photos! And yes, it's A+ sized with a HAT connector
[21:46] <ali1234> cool. so you could stack them up and make a full size polyphonic synth with n-key roll over
[21:48] <ali1234> although you;d need tiny hands to play it
[21:48] <ali1234> although... it has C twice
[21:49] <Gadgetoid> haha, you'd need to stack 8 Model As end to end and run their outputs through a mixing desk
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[21:50] <Gadgetoid> Yes ali1234... that's how music works :D
[21:50] <ali1234> but if you put them end to end... you'll have two C's next to each other
[21:51] <Gadgetoid> Good... point...
[21:51] <ali1234> something to think about for v2 :)
[21:51] <Gadgetoid> Ah but removing that second C would ruin the functionality of just one- which is what I'd expect 99.99% of people to buy
[21:51] <ali1234> true
[21:51] <ali1234> but it would allow the keys to be bigger
[21:52] <Gadgetoid> I'd love to do a 64 key mega version, but the BOM would stack up quickly
[21:52] <Gadgetoid> 8 of those cap touch chips would get pricey
[21:53] <ali1234> yeah, if you're going to spend that kind of money you'd want weighted velocity sensitive keys anyway
[21:54] <ali1234> a trained piano player wouldn't know whether to laugh or cry if you asked them to play on a touch sensitive keyboard with no feedback
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[22:39] <Gadgetoid> ali1234: I suspet a trained piano player might want me shot!
[22:42] <ali1234> what you could do is make the C keys half width
[22:42] <ali1234> dunno how you'd handle that in the software though
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[22:44] <Gadgetoid> Just found a whole salad in my fridge... d'oh
[22:44] <ali1234> you could perforate the right C so it can be snapped off... but then it would be narrower than the A+
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[23:41] <Berg> how long had it been there Gadgetoid
[23:42] <Gadgetoid> Apparently not long Berg, the annoying thing is that I'd bought a salad for my dinner only to find a better one already in the fridge- creating a salad paradox
[23:42] <Berg> I have a 3rd PI 2 i need a project maybe a AI
[23:42] <Gadgetoid> I'm working on a 3D etch-a-sketch
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[23:42] <Berg> a salad parradox is like a rift in menu
[23:43] <Gadgetoid> It's like an etch-a-sketch, except instead of challenging your artistic skills it makes you want to crawl under a rock and die
[23:43] <Berg> im not that good at eching
[23:43] <Gadgetoid> Neither am I, thus the despair at having created something so awesome yet so impossible for me to master
[23:43] <Berg> I had a car like that years ago
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[23:44] <Berg> well i still have no idea for the turd pi
[23:44] <Berg> thurd
[23:44] <Berg> hahahahah
[23:44] <Berg> funny tipo
[23:44] <Berg> typo
[23:44] <Berg> third
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[23:51] <Gadgetoid> Build yourself a lovely 5x5x5 LED cube and get a Propeller HAT to drive it :D
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[23:52] <Berg> i like the part about a hat
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