#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-07-11

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[0:05] <devslash> does anyone know of a web server app I can use to stream my music stored on my pi that doesnt require flash
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[0:12] <tt> woo
[0:12] <tt> this thing is a pretty cute computer
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[0:29] <normalra> i wonder how many raspberry pi's have been taken over through ssh attacks.
[0:30] <tt> against openssh vulns, or against default/weak passwords?
[0:30] <tt> I would expect many are behind NATs
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[0:31] <normalra> indeed, maybe there are about 5% of pi's with the ssh ports open.
[0:32] <tt> is ssh off by default?
[0:32] <normalra> speaking of taken over, is there any damage that can be done to the pi directly when one has access to the default user?
[0:32] <daniel_j> nah
[0:32] <normalra> i think it isn't.
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[0:32] <tt> you could severely overclock it and reboot?
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[0:32] <daniel_j> could overclock it too much :P
[0:32] <normalra> yeah, something like that.
[0:33] <daniel_j> haha
[0:33] <tt> hmm
[0:33] <tt> I sense a terrible worm
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[0:35] <normalra> or perhaps there are some protection mechanisms. kinda like overheat immediate shutdown :/
[0:35] <normalra> maybe you could taunt them with a ssh honeypot.
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[1:00] <tt> hmm
[1:00] <tt> does a Pi 2 really need 2 A power? :/
[1:00] <tt> the biggest adapter I can find here is 1.35 A, and my UPS' native USB output is 1 A
[1:03] <McBride36> depends on draw, but 1 A to 1.35 A should be fine
[1:03] <tt> oh, okay
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[1:03] <tt> is there a spec sheet?
[1:03] <tt> (yes, and it says 5 V 2 A :/)
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[1:07] <bitanarchy> hi, wpa_suplicant does not start on my rpi2b
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[1:11] <tt> what is the idle power draw of a Pi 2?
[1:11] <Broly> hi guys, how can i flash a vanilla 4.1 kernel to an SD and boot for RPi2? i'm not expecting full functionality, just want to see if the barebones will boot
[1:11] <Broly> quite sure i have the right arch settings etc
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[1:34] <molgrum> i'm not sure here, microSD... can't an ordinary SD-card work just as well?
[1:35] <Broly> same thing
[1:35] <pksato> just raplace a kernel.img/kernel7.img on sd card.
[1:35] <molgrum> okay, just that micro needs an adapter? what's the pros/cons?
[1:36] <pksato> or, use config.txt to set kernel image,
[1:36] <Broly> thanks pksato
[1:38] <tt> you need micro for the pi 2
[1:38] <Broly> pksato: the image made by zImage is a zImage file, jw how i can make this file an img
[1:38] <tt> if you get micro, it will fit in things that only take micro :P
[1:38] <pksato> mv zImage kernel.img ?
[1:38] <tt> gunzip, I think?
[1:38] <Broly> i don't know if zImage == img
[1:39] <pksato> I not know that format of .img
[1:39] <Broly> rpi has kernel in img form i think
[1:39] <pksato> check with file kernel.img
[1:39] <molgrum> tt: ah, Rpi2 only takes micro?
[1:39] <tt> yeah
[1:40] <tt> o.o
[1:40] <tt> why does raspbian add just 100M swap?
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[1:44] <tt> there we go, sudo apt-get remove dphys-swapfile and no more swap!
[1:45] <Broly> thanks pksato
[1:45] <Broly> invaluable advice mate
[1:45] <Broly> cheers!
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[1:47] <tt> hmm
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[1:48] <tt> /etc/network/interfaces does not seem to use dhcp for eth0, but it does that when I boot anyway
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[1:48] <pksato> network manager
[1:48] <tt> >:|
[1:48] <tt> network mangler.
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[1:54] <Encapsulation> "Wow, pulled back the wrong side throttle."
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[1:55] <Encapsulation> not what you want to hear from your pilot xD
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[2:14] <ShorTie> disk activity
[2:15] <ShorTie> or you, because you can take control of the act light
[2:15] <tt> oh, nice!
[2:15] <tt> how?
[2:17] <ShorTie> Deactivate from system echo none >/sys/class/leds/led0/trigger
[2:17] <ShorTie> echo 0 or 1 >/sys/class/leds/led0/brightness to turn on/off
[2:18] <tt> *nod*
[2:18] <tt> wait, what's led1?
[2:18] <tt> is one of them power?
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[2:19] <ShorTie> sorry, not sure on that
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[2:19] <pksato> only ethernet leds can not be controlled. (but, is possible)
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[2:20] <ShorTie> you can controll the act light
[2:20] <tt> ShorTie: ah, apparently led1 is power
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[2:20] <ShorTie> http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=136266#p136266
[2:20] <ShorTie> http://elinux.org/RPi_Low-level_peripherals
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[2:21] <tt> hmm
[2:21] <tt> there're cpu0/1/2/3 ones
[2:21] <tt> it's too bad there's not a summary one for all CPUs
[2:21] <tt> that lights up when any are active
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[2:21] <ShorTie> check them out, those are in my notes for act light
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[2:26] <Tenkawa> anyone got the git source url handy for the 4.0 kernel source?
[2:27] <Tenkawa> the rpi specific repo
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[2:31] <Tenkawa> got it.. thanks though
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[3:53] <daniel_j> can openelec be installed and setup headless?
[3:53] <daniel_j> as in default ssh enabled etc
[3:53] <daniel_j> yes it can, lol
[3:53] <daniel_j> learn2wiki :P
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[4:09] <Iunchbox> Hey chat, Can anyone help me with getting my pi to connect to Wifi using wicd-curses
[4:10] <Iunchbox> I've installed the drivers for the wifi dongle. I can see wssid's but it keeps hanging on verifying authentication
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[4:24] <abnormal> what OS you using?
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[5:04] <ldc> hi! do you know if the raspberry PI can be powered by one of those cell phone usb battery packs?
[5:05] <daniel_j> if the specs are within those reccomended, lol
[5:06] <daniel_j> https://www.raspberrypi.org/help/faqs/#powerReqs
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[5:35] <NedScott> the best thing is to get one that works with a "tablet", which typically will mean it has enough amps for the Pi
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[6:03] <Xark> I recommend a 3A 5V supply for Raspberry Pi 2. This one works great and even allows an external USB HDD to work (without hub) -> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KQH4J6S?
[6:03] <Xark> (2A wasn't quite enough for HDD)
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[7:37] <daniel_j> would anyone know how to persistantly get kali linux on the pi t oconnect ot wifi, lol
[7:37] <daniel_j> to*
[7:37] <daniel_j> it's the only distro so far that likes my dvb :P
[7:38] <tawr> uhm
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[7:38] <tawr> all linuxwork with the sdr's
[7:39] <tawr> you just have to blacklist the original dvb driver
[7:39] <JK-47> plug in wifi adapter with big antenna. it connects… done
[7:39] <tawr> or modprobe -r the driver so libusb can control it directly
[7:39] <daniel_j> had firmware issues with it
[7:39] <tawr> ? there is no firmware
[7:39] <daniel_j> O_o
[7:40] <tawr> unless we're talking about 2 seperate things. rtlsdr?
[7:40] <daniel_j> nope
[7:40] <tawr> nope as in what?
[7:41] <daniel_j> totally different subjects i assume, lol
[7:41] <tawr> lol. what's dvb then?
[7:41] <daniel_j> usb tuner
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[7:41] <tawr> yeah, we're talking about the same thing.
[7:41] <tawr> unless.. you're literally the only person on the internet that uses a dvb stick.. to watch tv????
[7:42] <tawr> PLEASE TELL ME YOU DO. Because then I found a golden unicorn.
[7:42] <daniel_j> lol
[7:42] <[Saint]> it is worth noting that there's a metric shittonne more DVBs then just the RTL* variants
[7:42] <daniel_j> i plan to stream the signal with tvheadend
[7:42] <[Saint]> ...just sayin'
[7:42] <tawr> anyhow, as far as your question about wifi goes, you edit 1 file in /etc
[7:43] <tawr> [Saint]: yeah. i'm waiting for my usb ac-wifi, my directional antennas. i'm worried that i have a 2w wifi card next to my sdr antenna though
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[7:48] <McBride36> hey [Saint], what kind of phone did you say i should get? some sort of dev enabled one
[7:50] <tawr> s6 active
[7:50] <tawr> then the moment you get it, root it and unlock the bootloader :D
[7:50] <tawr> before the ota locks you out, like they normally do :/
[7:51] <McBride36> man
[7:51] <McBride36> that happened to me with my s4 active
[7:51] <McBride36> after the lollipop update, locked up solid
[7:51] <McBride36> [Saint] recommended me try out phones and then get some sort of dev version
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[7:53] <tawr> same McBride36 :(
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[7:53] <tawr> i canceled the ota, but i was dead tired that night so i went to bed
[7:53] <tawr> it applied the update when i was asleep
[7:53] <tawr> i was so pissed
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[7:56] <McBride36> i mean, don't get me wrong, lollipop is amazeballs
[7:56] <McBride36> but i'd have liked to been able to root my phone
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[8:02] <snapfractalpop> anyone here using emulationstation?
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[8:07] <Xark> tawr: I have to keep kill tasking a bunch of processes on my Droid whenever I restart it to keep the OTA at bay (It keeps doing the "pick a time for install" with no "never" option). :)
[8:08] * Xark is fine with security updates, but getting "random UX fad of the day" when updating critical apps totally sucks (e,g., GMail and Calendar are a disaster now...).
[8:10] <McBride36> Xark, pretty sure you can disable OTA updates
[8:10] <McBride36> somehow
[8:10] <Xark> McBride36: Not that I am aware of without root (and I have Googled). Might be a Verizon "feature", not sure...
[8:11] <Xark> McBride36: However, the kill taks trick works until phone restart (which is fairly rare).
[8:11] <Xark> tasks*
[8:12] <McBride36> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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[8:17] <tawr> Xark: why not root?
[8:19] <Xark> tawr: Made my last phone too flakey. Also, no "easy" one for Droid Mini last I checked.
[8:20] <Xark> Also, haven't really wanted it (this OTA thing is first thing making me consider it).
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[8:32] <snapfractalpop> Xark: can't you root with stock rom?
[8:32] <snapfractalpop> I wouldn't think that would make your system "flakey"
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[8:35] <Xark> snapfractalpop: Well, that was my experience on Droid 1 & 2 (so I didn't on 3 and [mini] 4).
[8:36] <Xark> snapfractalpop: It does look like ti is easier to root now though (doing a quick search).
[8:36] <tawr> Xark: uh what?
[8:36] <tawr> rooting affects literally nothing what so ever
[8:36] <tawr> there is no way rooting made your phone flakey.
[8:37] <Xark> tawr: Perhaps it was some root using app, but like I say, that was my experience.
[8:37] <tawr> it's literally impossible. rooting changes nothing but drops a su binary in bin
[8:37] <tawr> which is why you, you know, use the SU app and don't give apps root access unless you know what they do..
[8:37] <tawr> just like on a full system..
[8:38] <Xark> tawr: I do understand the concept.
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[8:38] <tawr> it's literally impossible that it can affect system stability (just rooting, that is)
[8:38] <tawr> so your apprehension is unfounded. have fun with it!
[8:38] <Xark> tawr: Fair enough.
[8:40] <snapfractalpop> I generally prefer to have root, on principle.. since I want to own my device.
[8:40] <snapfractalpop> even if I do nothing special with it
[8:41] <snapfractalpop> I think if you use root to wipe out annoying "built in" apps, it can cause stability issues
[8:43] <snapfractalpop> anyone here use emulationstation or retropie on their raspberry pi?
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[9:03] <toomin> ip
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[11:19] <disharmony> Hi all
[11:19] <disharmony> Hi all. My rasp B+ gets max 430kb/s out of it's USB ethernet dongle, while the onboard does more than 3 ~ 4 mb/s. Can anyone perhaps suggest a brand/type of USB ethernet dongle that works better with a raspberry?
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[11:32] <daniel_j> onboard :P
[11:32] <NedScott> wat
[11:33] <ant_thomas> Why are you using a USB ethernet dongle when you have the onboard?
[11:34] <ant_thomas> Also, make sure that the USB ethernet dongle you have is actually USB 2.0. There's load of cheap ones on ebay that are actually USB 1 and restricted to 12 mbps max
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[11:35] <ant_thomas> disharmony: Is it one of these? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291096440596
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[12:22] <bitanarchy> can't get my wifi dongle to work with rpi2b... it's a rtl8192cu
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[12:45] <disharmony> ant_thomas: I tried 2, and of of them is indeed like that (but that one panic's the system)
[12:45] <disharmony> the otherone is a sitecom
[12:45] <ant_thomas> disharmony: I found this a while back - http://www.cpmspectrepi.webspace.virginmedia.com/raspberry_pi/MoinMoinExport/USBtoLanAdapters.html
[12:46] <disharmony> ant_thomas: interesting page, let me read that; thanks
[12:51] <disharmony> Hmm one device I have is listed there as a working device, but here it panics the kernel after a while and the max throughput I get is 450kb/s
[12:51] <disharmony> ant_thomas: do you have experience with usb ethernet devices in a raspberry ? Do you know if you got more than 450kbs?
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[12:52] <disharmony> I am willing to spent 30 or 50 bucks on a dongle, as long as I get a few mb/s out of it
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[12:54] <ant_thomas> You don't need to spend that much. Why are you not using the onboard ethernet?
[12:54] <disharmony> ant_thomas: I need a 2nd ethernet port
[12:54] <ant_thomas> I have an asix based dongle that I've just tested that easily gets 2-3 MB/s
[12:54] <disharmony> what pi do you have ? I have a B+
[12:55] <ant_thomas> On that page I lined to it is this - http://www.cpmspectrepi.webspace.virginmedia.com/raspberry_pi/MoinMoinExport/attachments/USBtoLanAdapters/P1000080cs.png
[12:55] <ant_thomas> That was on a Model A
[12:55] <disharmony> ah thanks!!! that gives me hope
[12:57] <ant_thomas> disharmony - some more reading http://www.midwesternmac.com/blogs/jeff-geerling/getting-gigabit-networking
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[12:59] <ant_thomas> There seems to be some reasonably priced gigabit usb ethernet adapters on ebay, that would push you past 100 mbit, but it would be sharing the USB bandwidth with the onboard ethernet. Download speeds are also determined by SD card speed
[13:02] <disharmony> yeah I am aware of that. The thing is that using the onboard ethernet I get ~3mb/s (probably the limit of my micro sd which I am downloading to). But testing the 2 usb dongles instead of the eth0 both limit to 450kb/s. So Ill buy another one, and hopefully get better perofrmance out of it
[13:03] <ant_thomas> What's the output from "lsusb -t"?
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[13:07] <disharmony> |__ Port 1: Dev 2, If 0, Class=hub, Driver=hub/5p, 480M
[13:07] <disharmony> |__ Port 1: Dev 3, If 0, Class=vend., Driver=smsc95xx, 480M
[13:07] <disharmony> |__ Port 2: Dev 4, If 0, Class=vend., Driver=rtl8150, 12M
[13:07] <disharmony> |__ Port 3: Dev 5, If 0, Class=HID, Driver=usbhid, 12M
[13:07] <disharmony> |__ Port 3: Dev 5, If 1, Class=HID, Driver=usbhid, 12M
[13:07] <disharmony> |__ Port 3: Dev 5, If 2, Class=HID, Driver=usbhid, 12M
[13:07] <disharmony> |__ Port 4: Dev 6, If 0, Class=hub, Driver=hub/4p, 12M
[13:07] <disharmony> |__ Port 4: Dev 7, If 0, Class=hub, Driver=hub/4p, 12M
[13:07] <disharmony> sorry for the spam
[13:08] <ant_thomas> disharmony: Yep, running at USB 1 speeds (12M) that's why it's so slow. Unfortunately can't be fixed. Rubbish adapter
[13:09] <disharmony> ant_thomas: hmm yeah, but I mean that means I could get ~1 mb/s out of it, right? That's also what I get out of it on a normal laptop
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[13:10] <disharmony> but I'll buy a usb2 usb ethernet dongle and see what it gives me
[13:10] <ant_thomas> Possibly, maybe some USB settings can be tweaked to max it out but I have no idea where to start on that. Definitely better to just get a USB2.0 compatible adapter (for less than $5 I imagine)
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[13:56] <alphakiller> hi all
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[13:58] <alphakiller> I want to build a personal email server with raspberry pi model b - in your opinion 4GB are enough? I don't want to store the email on the server
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[16:47] <Fjorgynn> does kodi run smooth on a rpi2 under raspbian?
[16:48] <ant_thomas> It runs very well under openelec
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[16:58] <cdbob> Morning
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[17:03] <CookieNa2> Hello fellow pi lovers :)
[17:04] <pmo> anyone know of a Rasbian Jessie installer?
[17:10] <cdbob> I need to turn my pi into a print server
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[17:13] <ant_thomas> cdbob: CUPS is what you're looking for
[17:13] <cdbob> Nice
[17:13] <cdbob> thanks
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[17:14] <cdbob> Do you run debian on your pi?
[17:14] <biberao> hi
[17:15] <mdoge> hi i have a question
[17:15] <mdoge> how do i pi?
[17:15] <tt> mdoge: you tau, but stop halfway
[17:16] <mdoge> 0_0 thanks
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[17:18] <cdbob> ant_thomas, what distro of linux do you use?
[17:18] <cdbob> I guess that's a preference if anything, but I meant for the pi itself
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[17:22] <ant_thomas> cdbob: Raspbian on the Pi
[17:23] <cdbob> and first gen pis run it alright?
[17:24] <ant_thomas> All of my pis are headless so I can't comment from a GUI point of view. But yeah they run it fine. It was designed for the first gen pis
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[17:34] <cdbob> GUI doesn't matter, I meant performance
[17:34] <cdbob> Stability etc
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[17:34] <mpmctoo> Well, I dunno how I've done it but I've killed two Pi's (Model 1B), no amount of fiddling will bring them back to life, I think the overclock did them in! lol.
[17:35] <cdbob> There it is
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[17:36] <biberao> i used to use raspbian
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[17:39] <cdbob> I use debian so I'm sure rasbian would be perfect
[17:39] <cdbob> Having a print server would be nice
[17:40] <cdbob> well it can even do basic samba stuff
[17:40] <cdbob> though probably not very quickly
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[18:02] <ant_thomas> mpmctoo: The only Pi I've killed is one I put 12V through the USB port... don't ask
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[18:18] * ThinkingofPython waits more for the Raspberry Pi education fund to re-open: https://www.raspberrypi.org/education-fund/
[18:18] <ThinkingofPython> shiftplusone any word? :)
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[18:40] <Fjorgynn> anyone ?
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[18:45] <Encrypt> Fjorgynn, Yes
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[19:36] <faLUCE> hello. How can I automatically restart the wifi connection if the router reboots? (raspbian last version)
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[19:38] <Fjorgynn> does it die faLUCE ?
[19:38] <faLUCE> Fjorgynn: yes
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[19:42] <mpmctoo> ant_thomas: One of my Pi's was dodgy to begin with & eventually it died, the other one I dunno what went wrong with that, I only powered it off and took the sdcard out, it won't even flash with no sdcard in!
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[19:46] <GentileBen> Do you provide RPi consultancy, JK-47?
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[19:48] <JK-47> nope. i just use it to synchronize lights to baby got back
[19:48] <JK-47> because all lights should goto baby got back
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[19:52] <GentileBen> This suggests you're a hobbyist, which is disturbing.
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[19:53] <GentileBen> Have you done any work with the likes of Cognos or DataStage, JK-47?
[19:53] <JK-47> vaping, rpi, archery and photography. those are my expensive hobbies
[19:53] <GentileBen> You're a vapist?
[19:53] <JK-47> cognos. but long ago
[19:54] <GentileBen> Before the IBM acquisition?
[19:54] <JK-47> yeah
[19:54] <GentileBen> I'm doing a lot of BI/DW stuff at my new company.
[19:54] <GentileBen> It's all new to me.
[19:54] <JK-47> cognos. informatica. biz objects. pentaho kettle. etc etc.
[19:54] <JK-47> btw baby got back https://www.dropbox.com/s/7cd71i0d85lmllh/Christmaslights2014-bgb.mp4?dl=0
[19:55] <GentileBen> That song is, in retrospect, racist towards white women.
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[19:55] <JK-47> Its a christmas song.
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[19:55] <JK-47> the baby, jesus. got back. his rise from the tomb.
[19:55] <GentileBen> Also it doesn't seem synchronised to me.
[19:56] <JK-47> ;)
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[19:56] <JK-47> next years will be 32 channels and not 8
[19:56] <GentileBen> My new company has VMAX and other stuff but I've not been in the DC yet.
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[19:56] <JK-47> if you wanna buy a pure to replace all the vmax, lemme know ;)
[19:56] <GentileBen> Sadly my new role is pretty removed from low-level infrastructure.
[19:56] <GentileBen> Well
[19:57] <JK-47> shrink the footprint to 5% of what it is now
[19:57] <biberao> im getting a rp2
[19:57] <biberao> i own a rp1
[19:57] <GentileBen> I do low-level designs but we have IAs who do the infrastructure designs.
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[19:57] <GentileBen> JK-47, they pretty much didn't know what they were doing tbh.
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[19:57] <JK-47> well they certainly paid alot to do it ;)
[19:58] <GentileBen> Instead of presenting CIFS/NFS off the head, they're fronting with a VM connected to a LUN...for individual file shares.
[19:58] <JK-47> thats sometime viable, depending on needs
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[19:58] <JK-47> widelinks, branchcache, etc emc sucks at
[19:58] <GentileBen> JK-47, they could not give a reason.
[19:58] <GentileBen> lol not advanced enough for BranchCache.
[19:58] <JK-47> they probably just moved over an existing fileserver vm
[19:59] <GentileBen> And if that was the case you'd have a clustered DFS farm in your DC, not individual VMs.
[19:59] <JK-47> and its not like emc has any good dedupe, so they wouldnt see a major benefit
[19:59] <GentileBen> JK-47: it was part of a DC exit. They had to build what they knew.
[19:59] <GentileBen> If I was there 2 years ago I would've steered them towards NetApp, I guess.
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[19:59] <GentileBen> Actually maybe Pure, as budget doesn't seem to be an issue here.
[20:00] <GentileBen> Total IT spend is $200m (not including NA).
[20:00] <GentileBen> So at least I never have to worry about pricing ever again...
[20:00] <JK-47> how much % is security?
[20:01] <JK-47> they have any US side branches that need gear? ;)
[20:01] <GentileBen> Probably 0%. I did question this. We've got a VP for security but no technical personnel dedicated to infosec, opsec or a traditional security architect.
[20:01] <GentileBen> JK-47 I don't get involved in the US side of things.
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[20:01] <GentileBen> I also wouldn't give you any business in case my online and professional personas collide.
[20:02] <JK-47> lol top netapp and pure reseller in the region. your loss
[20:02] <GentileBen> What region?
[20:02] <JK-47> pa/nj/de/ny
[20:02] <GentileBen> We're in Texas and Michigan, in terms of major offices.
[20:02] <GentileBen> Er
[20:03] <GentileBen> Yeah.
[20:03] <JK-47> I work there roo
[20:03] <GentileBen> I know some of the locations because I've seen them in Fallout games.
[20:03] <GentileBen> JK-47 I may be force to fly to the US late this year.
[20:03] <GentileBen> *forced
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[20:07] <JK-47> Do you even Pi bro?
[20:09] <GentileBen> I've been asking in here for about 3 years for a good reason to buy a Pi.
[20:09] <JK-47> security system/monitoring
[20:09] <JK-47> thin client terminals, for vmware view/citrix
[20:10] <JK-47> baby got back.
[20:10] <JK-47> home automation
[20:10] <JK-47> some of my uses
[20:10] <tt> GentileBen: they're cute
[20:10] <JK-47> im trying to get one working with my smart things to pepper/dye spray intruders when im away.
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[20:15] <ant_thomas> My main uses are home automation (inc full central heating control) and security cameras.
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[20:19] <GentileBen> Wouldn't it be easier to train your dog to kill, JK-47?
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[20:20] <JK-47> if i had a dog, i wouldnt be able to travel. unless i made an automated feeding system
[20:20] <JK-47> but that wouldnt be nice to the dog
[20:20] <JK-47> so id rather just have it warn, pepper spray or shoot
[20:21] <GentileBen> Isn't that illegal?
[20:22] <GentileBen> Wait, you're in the US, nevermind.
[20:22] <JK-47> dying isnt
[20:22] <Fjorgynn> why is osmc better than openelec?
[20:22] <GentileBen> In the US it's legal to lay bear traps in your home to catch intruders.
[20:22] <JK-47> depends on the state
[20:22] <GentileBen> Depends on the race of the intruder, too.
[20:22] <Fjorgynn> ...
[20:22] <GentileBen> If it was a black guy and you're in FL, you can utilise the Stand Your Zimmerman defence.
[20:23] <Fjorgynn> In Sweden you as the homeowner will get sued if you attack the intruder
[20:23] <JK-47> im white so it would be a hate crime
[20:23] <GentileBen> Your nick is so Swedish, Fjorgynn.
[20:23] <GentileBen> JK-47, make sure the robot is painted black and its warning is in ebonics.
[20:23] <GentileBen> "Step dafuq away busta"
[20:24] <GentileBen> No chance of racism claim then.
[20:24] <GentileBen> IMO if you invade someone's property you deserve to be shot in the face.
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[21:34] <daned33> another dan D:?
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[21:45] <dreamon> Hello using a display on a raspberryPI.. and a image that was send with display. my problem is to deactivate screensaver.. display blanks every few minutes, I want to stop this
[21:47] <H__> maybe plain -> setterm -blank 0
[21:48] <dreamon> H__, I will give it a try
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[22:06] <Broly> hey guys
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[22:06] <Broly> trying to make my own linux 4.1 barebones using the kernel.org src
[22:06] <Broly> and this:
[22:06] <Broly> http://elinux.org/RPi_Upstream_Kernel_Compilation
[22:07] <H__> nice project
[22:07] <Broly> but for some reason, it's booting the original kernel and not the one i've built
[22:07] <MY123> Broly, write the mainline kernel in kernel.img AND kernel7.img
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[22:08] <MY123> (or remove kernel7.img at all)
[22:08] <Broly> well these instructions for u-boot should have done that, no?
[22:08] <Broly> so kernel7.img is the problem?
[22:08] <MY123> Broly, depends if it's a Pi1 or 2
[22:09] <Broly> 2B
[22:09] <MY123> Broly, so remove kernel7.img
[22:09] <Broly> http://elinux.org/RPi_Upstream_Kernel_Compilation these instructions here suggest i did it right (renaming the uboot.bin to kernel.img, etc)
[22:09] <MY123> Broly, and you can work without U-Boot
[22:09] <Broly> oic
[22:09] <MY123> (BCM knows how to load DTBs)
[22:10] <Broly> but it's weird because i renamed the uboot src as kernel.img and it boots kernel7 instead of the zIMag
[22:10] <MY123> Broly, remove *.img, copy zImage to kernel.img, then set up the right DTB
[22:12] <Broly> u-boot does all that man. i used the 2835 dtb
[22:12] <Broly> btw i was curious about that: is this really a brcm2835 chipset?
[22:12] <Broly> i thought it'd be 47xxx
[22:12] <MY123> Broly, the mainline kernel doesn't support the 2836 the last time I saw it
[22:13] <Broly> ahhh so that's the problem
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[22:13] <Broly> but it does support 47x
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[22:14] <MY123> B
[22:14] <MY123> Broly, it doesn't support the 2836, so you WILL get nowhere
[22:15] <Broly> that's so weird man
[22:15] <Broly> why did pi use brcm2835 for an armv7l
[22:15] <Broly> why not the 47xx
[22:15] <MY123> Broly, the bcm2835 is an ARM1176JZF-S
[22:15] <MY123> the bcm2836 is a CortexA7r4
[22:16] <Broly> i thought the pi2b's quadcore is an A9
[22:16] <MY123> Broly, the A7 is better than the A9 as it has HW virtualization extensions
[22:17] <Broly> what
[22:17] <MY123> Broly, you can run virtual machines on the Pi2 :-)
[22:17] <Broly> i got what you meant
[22:17] <Broly> i mean if that's important to you then for sure
[22:17] <MY123> but not on Odroid-C1 for example
[22:17] <Broly> i understand
[22:17] <Broly> i'm not a droid dev tho
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[22:18] <MY123> Broly, I run Windows RT, NetBSD and GNU/Linux in parallel with my Pi2
[22:18] <doomlord> anyone heard anymore about this 'snickerdoodle'
[22:18] <MY123> (don't ask why)
[22:18] <doomlord> arm+fpga thing
[22:18] <Broly> someone likes RISC
[22:18] <Broly> haha
[22:18] <Broly> :P
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[22:19] <MY123> Broly, NISC is better
[22:19] <Broly> you mean CISC
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[22:19] <MY123> Broly, no, NISC
[22:20] <MY123> (No Instruction Set)
[22:20] <Broly> lol
[22:20] <Broly> i guess
[22:20] <Broly> better have a compiler handy for every platform tho :p
[22:21] <MY123> Broly, there was a paper about it, but it's kind of useless
[22:21] <Broly> i think the current CISC RISC paradigm is sufficient, even with the recent convergence of the latter to the former (IN SOME WAYS, not ALL, obviously)
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[22:23] <Broly> i found it fascinating that the v7 (and probably other ARM architectures) are endian-agnostic
[22:23] <MY123> Broly, it was like that since ages
[22:23] <Broly> i learned ASM on a CISC (little ENd obv) and any exposure to RISC was all bigE
[22:23] <MY123> (there is a big-endian NetBSD ARM port for the Pi1,as an example)
[22:23] <Broly> i see
[22:24] <MY123> I'm now installing Windows RT on my PC...
[22:24] <MY123> the performance is shit with Qemu...
[22:24] <Broly> lol
[22:25] <Broly> i don't like qemu on mac, but then again my patience was limited
[22:25] <MY123> Broly, the boring part is the ARM->x86 translation
[22:25] <Broly> hehehe
[22:26] <doomlord> 68000 ftw
[22:26] <Broly> is rpi1 also bcm 28xx?
[22:26] <MY123> Broly, BCM2835
[22:26] <doomlord> a cisc with a sane ISA
[22:26] <Broly> so how come people are on forums saying there are 4.0/4.1 branches?
[22:27] <Broly> if it works for 4.0, surely 4.1 not a big deal?
[22:27] <MY123> Broly, the Raspberry Pi downstream kernel is 4.1 ;-)
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[22:27] <MY123> doomlord, the m68k is sane, but x86 killed real CISCs
[22:28] <Broly> x86 is hypw
[22:28] <Broly> hahah
[22:28] <Broly> don't hate on the netburst era
[22:28] <MY123> Broly, I have a Cedar Mill
[22:28] <Broly> i bought a presscott knowing it'd suck
[22:28] <Broly> hehehe
[22:28] <doomlord> need to do a billion dollar kickstarter to design and mass produce a modern 68000
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[22:28] <doomlord> i dont have any chip design experience
[22:29] <Broly> unless you're compE/EE, you probably won't
[22:29] <MY123> Broly, but I have a Pentium M Dothan near it ;-)
[22:29] <Broly> hahah pentium m
[22:29] <Broly> oh man
[22:29] <Broly> centrino was a good 'upgrade'
[22:29] <Broly> 'revamp'
[22:30] <doomlord> i wondered if the efforts to make x86 code morphers might have yielded somethng that could handle the 68k ISA
[22:30] <doomlord> the things like transmetta or denver
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[22:31] <MY123> doomlord, the Crusoe is a good processor, their SW x86 implementation is faster than the Itanium one :-p
[22:31] <Broly> MY123: do you got a link for the downstream 4.1 report?
[22:31] <MY123> (which is HW-based)
[22:31] <mcsalty> Hi, are there open source digital signage applications that can offer a simple interface to put information on a wall (weather, some rss feeds, ...)? I can only find paying applications that offer different things than my needs
[22:31] <MY123> Broly, github.com/raspberrypi/linux
[22:31] <doomlord> MY123 i never found out many details about that
[22:32] <Broly> this is 3.x MY123. when you say downstream, do you mean 'available only as an update from 3.0x'?
[22:33] <Broly> http://askubuntu.com/questions/4868/what-is-the-difference-between-upstream-and-downstream-when-referring-to-who-to :/ lol my first exposure to this usage
[22:33] <MY123> Broly, https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/tree/rpi-4.2.y Linux 4.2 tree
[22:33] <MY123> of the RPF
[22:33] <MY123> doomlord, you shold
[22:33] <MY123> *should buy the two
[22:34] <doomlord> can you still get hold of them
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[22:34] <MY123> doomlord, not for now(in holidays)
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[22:35] <Broly> oooi seee MY123
[22:35] <Broly> they inserted their own configs
[22:35] <Broly> ty
[22:36] <MY123> Broly, and their own drivers :-)
[22:36] <doomlord> i wonder if you can get at the native format of denver
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[22:36] <doomlord> and hence write a 68k frontend
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[22:37] <MY123> doomlord, you can't
[22:37] <MY123> and you can't
[22:37] <MY123> and you...
[22:37] <doomlord> damn this world
[22:38] <doomlord> whats it going to take to get a modern 68000
[22:38] <MY123> doomlord, sign a fu**ing pile of NDAs
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[22:38] <MY123> doomlord, use libcpu
[22:39] <Broly> man i have my decked out cross compiler ready to go n shit
[22:39] <Broly> tryna build a native gcc (or clang, maybe) that works for arm cortex a(
[22:40] <doomlord> MY123 thanks for the link , thats actually quite interesting but i'm after silicon :)
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[22:41] <ali1234> why you can't just use coldfire?
[22:42] <MY123> doomlord, buy a Macintosh
[22:42] <MY123> (or ask NDAQ:AAPL)
[22:44] <Broly> fuck stocks
[22:44] <Broly> :P
[22:44] <doomlord> there's a fairly long list of 'nearly posible' things I want . i should drop it.
[22:45] <doomlord> i'll have to wait for 14nm 3d printers
[22:52] <MY123> doomlord, those will never happen probably
[22:52] <MY123> doomlord, 320nm silicon is cheap
[22:52] <MY123> (I used it a few times)
[22:53] <doomlord> 320nm asics?
[22:53] <MY123> doomlord, yeah
[22:54] <doomlord> i might get a parallella , in part for its' zynq to mess with
[22:54] <doomlord> however this leaves me with a second 'want'.. a 28 nmor 14nm epiphany
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[22:55] <MY123> doomlord, buy a real FPGA, the Parallella doesn't have enough gates
[22:56] <doomlord> i figured it wont do a softcore, but might still be interesting to mess with
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[22:57] <doomlord> i'm curious to know what this 'snickerdoodle' thing will be
[22:57] <doomlord> sounds like it might be a zynq based thing
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[23:50] <bedah> hi
[23:50] <bedah> i just ordered my first RPI :)
[23:51] <bedah> quick question: is it easyly possible to drive the raspberry pi with 3.3V? i got a lot of small switching power regulators, could save some power
[23:52] <abnormal> you need 5v in to the pi
[23:52] <bedah> i could also provide extra 5V for usb.
[23:52] <abnormal> use a powered USB hub.
[23:53] <bedah> i do some microcontroller stuff, so i own some switchign power supplies
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[23:53] <bedah> no need for usb wallwart
[23:57] <bedah> hm.. schematic for rpi II is not here: https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/schematics/README.md but as far as i can see it might need some hardware modification
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[23:59] <bedah> ok, as i am new here: did someone do a FAQ of #raspberrypi on freenode? :D

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