#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-07-15

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[0:23] <HanSooloo> Is the NOOBS recovery / rescueshell environment supposed to have kernel loadable module support?
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[0:31] <HanSooloo> Was trying to load a module, e.g., 'modprobe foo', and I am getting a "/proc/modules: No such file or directory" error
[0:32] <HanSooloo> How would I need to configure the NOOBS Buildroot environment to add loadable module support to the recovery/rescueshell environment?
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[0:39] <tawr> HanSooloo: err, are you sure the module is even there?
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[1:13] <HanSooloo> tawr: I cannot see /proc/modules directory ..
[1:14] <HanSooloo> shouldn't it be there for a system with loadable module support?
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[1:14] <HanSooloo> even /proc/config.gz says "# CONFIG_MODULES is not set"
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[1:35] <tawr> HanSooloo: I was under the impression /proc/modules are loaded modules, not a list of modules
[1:35] <tawr> yup. it is. lsmod | wc -l gives the same (minus 1 for header), as cat /proc/modules | wc -l
[1:35] <tawr> that just shows the currently loaded modules, not all modules available (toload)
[1:36] <HanSooloo> but .. even 'lsmod' fails with same error ..
[1:36] <HanSooloo> as in .. there are no modules to speak of
[1:36] <HanSooloo> also, see my /proc/config.gz above
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[1:36] <HanSooloo> essentially, no module loading capability in kernel
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[1:55] <SyncYourDogmas> So 100 quid lighter now
[1:55] <SyncYourDogmas> Its the cost of everything extra from the pi that gets you...
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[2:01] <niston> this comes close to an "ethernet connected USB host adaptor": http://www.silexeurope.com/7870c23fa78d0429697a999e3d1d61da/en/home/products/usb-device-servers/sx-3000gb.html
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[2:03] <ritek> what are the risks of overclocking a Raspberry Pi 2?
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[2:06] <tawr> ritek: pretty much nothing
[2:06] <tawr> mine is oc'd to the medium range, locked in a waterproof box with 5 devices all generating heat and with no ventillation or heatsinking sits at 65C
[2:08] <ritek> tawr: I assume I would need more than 2.4A to power it (?)
[2:09] <ritek> cool
[2:10] <tawr> ritek: huh?
[2:10] <tawr> what do you mean? just the pi?
[2:11] <niston> 1.21 Gigawatt
[2:11] <tawr> the pi maybe pulls 400ma continuous with no load and no accessories (usb) plugged in. the reason you need a high capacity power supply (like a 2A) is because of accessories and high processor load
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[2:11] <ritek> tawr: I meant, when overclocking the pi you would need a good power supply
[2:12] <tawr> well, you should have a good power supply regardless.
[2:12] <ritek> ah I see
[2:12] <tawr> overclocking doesn't require much more power
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[2:12] <niston> nope. but a flux compensator does :P
[2:12] <ritek> I use a powered usb hub
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[2:21] <SyncYourDogmas> niston: thats ethernet frames using usb as the medium, tunnnelling over it if you will. Mine must do similar, but the box was so vague...Illl dig out the amazon order
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[2:28] <ICantCook> anyone know if boot2gecko works on the raspberry pi 2?
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[2:33] <brandao> Hi, is it OK to use encryption (/home folder or FDE) on a RPi? I'm asking this because of RPi performance limitation.
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[2:35] <SyncYourDogmas> Yeah
[2:35] <SyncYourDogmas> AES came out in 2000
[2:36] <SyncYourDogmas> The old pis hardware is around tha level, roughly
[2:36] <SyncYourDogmas> If you can log on to gmail for example you know its fine
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[2:39] <mijk> Hi
[2:39] <mijk> There's a few apps that freeze on exit on raspbian
[2:39] <mijk> Not sure what couldbbe causing it
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[2:40] <tawr> mijk: start them from the terminal
[2:41] <tawr> so when you close them (from the window), you'll see errors in the terminal that launched them.
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[2:42] <mijk> I actually tried that
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[2:43] <SyncYourDogmas> Check /var/log
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[2:43] <SyncYourDogmas> Dmesg might be worth grepping for the apps
[2:43] <mijk> Nothing pertaining to the freezing app
[2:43] <SyncYourDogmas> The apps log itself?
[2:45] <mijk> Maybe... do Amoebax and Pingus have logs? :P
[2:45] <mijk> Kids computer
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[2:46] <brandao> SyncYourDogmas: do you use encryption on your Pi?
[2:47] <SyncYourDogmas> ./etc/app, or /home/.app, or /home/.config/app
[2:47] <SyncYourDogmas> brandao: sure, I use ssh
[2:47] <SyncYourDogmas> I dont encrypt the drive though
[2:47] <SyncYourDogmas> And pgp for that matter
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[2:50] <brandao> SyncYourDogmas: yea I do key auth for ssh to, but I mean /home encryption or FDE
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[2:51] <mijk> Hmm i just noticed if i launch the app from the terminal i can kill the app by ckosing the shell
[2:51] <SyncYourDogmas> mijk: nohup prevents that
[2:51] <SyncYourDogmas> Or screen if sshing
[2:52] <SyncYourDogmas> brandao: Ireally doubt itll take that long, try it though
[2:52] <brandao> SyncYourDogmas: I think I'm going to benchmark and see if there is a true performance difference
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[2:53] <SyncYourDogmas> Let me what you get
[2:54] <SyncYourDogmas> The processor is slower but the driver is smaller and faster..
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[2:56] <mijk> Well looks like the only way would be to launch from the terminal
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[2:57] <mijk> So how would i implement that easily from a shortcut?
[2:57] <SyncYourDogmas> As it boots and shutsdown?
[2:58] <SyncYourDogmas> Or can you do a dry run
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[2:58] <SyncYourDogmas> Because theres always time...just make sure cpu load is roughly always the same
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[3:02] * ozzzy_ can't log into his pi
[3:02] <ozzzy_> LOL
[3:02] <JK-47> i have a rebooter script in place for when mine loses connectivity
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[3:25] <HanSooloo> any guidance on how to address "no loadable modules in recovery shell" question?
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[3:25] <HanSooloo> looking at kernelconfig-recovery.armv{6,7} files ... this is NOT enabled ...
[3:26] <HanSooloo> i.e., CONFIG_MODULES is NOT set
[3:26] <HanSooloo> however, when I run make linux-menuconfig and load up the kernelconfig-recovery.armv{6,7} files, the config tool shows it IS enabled, via 'init/Kconfig' file ...
[3:27] <HanSooloo> either way, I am not able to lsmod or modprobe .. trying to figure out how to get this working ...
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[4:54] <fred1807> I am getting a bad geometry error after a sd card clone
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[5:04] <JK-47> your sd card was a few blocks smaller i bet
[5:04] <JK-47> even though the GB showed the same size
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[5:07] <fred1807> so clonning between different brands may result in this error?
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[5:14] <JK-47> yes
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[5:17] <fred1807> it si ok to just resize2fs ?
[5:17] <fred1807> and fix
[5:19] <JK-47> you may not have all yrou data at the end, or proper partition markers
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[5:20] <fred1807> with resize2fs and a forced fsck I was able to mount it
[5:20] <fred1807> anything else I can do?
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[5:33] <tawr> dumb cloning has that problem
[5:33] <tawr> proper cloning does not
[5:39] <fred1807> share some superior knowloadge tawr
[5:39] <fred1807> how to proper clone a sd card, so it will not have problems with different brands sd cards?
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[6:00] <ICantCook> tawr: fred1807: I agree with sharing this superior information. I tend to use dd if=x of=y bs=2048 for all my SD card cloning.
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[6:01] <fred1807> I used pure dd if= of= .... So this bs=2048 addition will solve things ?
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[6:10] <tawr> fred1807: the problem is DD is an exact bit to bit copy
[6:11] <fred1807> and the solution is?
[6:11] <tawr> so if you have a 32gb sd card, with 100mb of data on it. your resulting image is 32gb, and takes the same amount of time as a full card to image
[6:11] <fred1807> proper cloning is?
[6:13] <tawr> what os would you prefer?
[6:13] <fred1807> linux
[6:13] <fred1807> max i can go is osx
[6:13] <fred1807> dont get near windows
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[6:16] <fred1807> why so mysterious?
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[6:20] <tawr> running around
[6:21] <tawr> i'm looking for the app, i hadn't used it in a while, and it was on my laptop that recently died
[6:21] <tawr> i was checking to see if it's on my rpi2 server, but it's not, and this is a bonestock fresh install of ubuntu on a backup cheapie laptop
[6:21] <tawr> so i'm searching for it
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[6:35] <ICantCook> fred1807: nah, bs is bytesize. It makes the copy faster
[6:35] <ICantCook> I solve the space issue (when doing a dd backup) by piping through gzip first
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[6:36] <ICantCook> but it's true that the dd copy takes too long if you have a large image
[6:36] <fred1807> hmm nice
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[6:36] <fred1807> how can I pipe trhougt gzip, and hope that bypass the blocks match error different brands sd cards may result?
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[6:50] <ICantCook> fred1807: piping through gzip wont' solve that problem. I use it specifically to store smaller images (all the free space takes up 0 bytes). It's still "dumb cloning".
[6:50] <fred1807> so yeah there is no solution
[6:52] <ICantCook> To solve your problem (assuming it is the sd card size issue), you could either: 1) Shrink your original sd card's partitions a bit, so that it's smaller than the new one (5MB should be more than enough) then clone again. Or 2) Find software to perform a 'smart clone'. I use clonezillia for PC/Servers, but there's probably something more apropriate for sd cards (never needed it so never looked).
[6:52] <JK-47> bs=1M it. and also what OS are you running dd from?
[6:55] <fred1807> osx
[6:57] <JK-47> use the rdisk device
[6:57] <JK-47> itll fix the issue i bet
[6:58] <JK-47> this is how I clone: IN: dd if=/dev/rdisk2 of=rpi-motion.img bs=1m to new device: dd if=rpi-motion.img of=/dev/rdisk2 bs=1m
[6:58] <JK-47> as root. not as sudo
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[6:58] <JK-47> replace the 2 with wherever it is
[6:59] <JK-47> but again, if you are off by a large margin on the device sizes, youll always through a premature end error, unless of course you specify the # of blocks identically and short it
[6:59] <tawr> but, if there is any fragmentation
[6:59] <tawr> you'll lose data
[6:59] <JK-47> yep
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[7:13] <fred1807> ICantCook: Came with the typical solution I like, things that work by brute force, lets make it 5mb smaller, because thats more then enough to cover all the variation there will be among sd brands
[7:14] <fred1807> nobrain
[7:14] <fred1807> just works
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[7:15] <ICantCook> fred1807: Cool, do post here and let us know how it goes
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[8:15] <molgrum> anyone? is it safe to set max_usb_current=1 is i have a samsung 2A supply?
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[8:15] <tawr> molgrum:
[8:15] <tawr> did you buy a new pi?
[8:15] <molgrum> yep tawr
[8:15] <molgrum> mode lB
[8:15] <molgrum> model B
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[8:16] <tawr> it's safe.
[8:16] <molgrum> okay
[8:16] <tawr> there is current monitoring and all that, it's just that turnign it up with a crappy supply can cause problems
[8:17] <molgrum> tawr: can i change it if i doesn't work?
[8:17] <Xark> molgrum: I think it is safe, however I needed to get a 3A supply before my external HDD worked.
[8:17] <tawr> molgrum: didn't understand that
[8:17] <molgrum> Xark: mine is a portable one, so i thin it uses low power
[8:17] <Xark> molgrum: Same here. YMMV...
[8:17] <tawr> all you are doing is changing a setting in boot/config.txt
[8:18] <tawr> and reboot
[8:18] <tawr> it's not like you're soldering or anything molgrum .
[8:18] <molgrum> tawr: yes but i mean if it doesn't boot up
[8:18] <molgrum> okay
[8:18] <tawr> uh
[8:18] <tawr> why wouldn't it boot up?
[8:18] <Xark> molgrum: Unlikely to happen, but "worst case" you edit the config.txt on a PC (or re-image perhaps).
[8:19] <tawr> it's a known config.
[8:19] <molgrum> ok
[8:19] <molgrum> thanks
[8:19] <tawr> it was put there by the developers, you're not doing something crazy..
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[8:19] <tawr> if it doesn't boot with the hdd connected, it isn't enough power. unplug, it will boot.
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[8:25] <molgrum> aaaand it works :)
[8:25] <molgrum> thaks for the help guys
[8:26] <molgrum> 8 0 976762583 sda
[8:26] <molgrum> 8 1 976759808 sda1
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[9:13] <Bhaal> Is the maintainer of the Pi fork of mjpg-streamer in here by chance?
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[9:25] <ShorTie> not that i know of
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[9:42] <daniel_j> anyone know if and how it is possible to embed a 192.168.1.x address into an html page that is accesible over the internet?
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[9:43] <ShorTie> not exactly sure what cha mean by that
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[9:43] <daniel_j> i have a stream locally that i want to embed in an html page that isn't local but is on the same network
[9:43] <ShorTie> normally you use your router to port forward you external address to the internal address you want
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[9:44] <daniel_j> yeah :/
[9:44] <nid0> so whats wrong with doing that?
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[9:45] <daniel_j> hassle i didn't really want lol
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[9:47] <ShorTie> guess it might have something with how you play that stream on the other pc
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[9:49] <ShorTie> you would most likely need a small script/program to turn the stream into a file on the web server, then play that file on the web page
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[10:13] <SyncYourDogmas> daniel_j: proceed with caution, but theres always theDMZ
[10:13] <SyncYourDogmas> No need to open ports
[10:14] <SyncYourDogmas> Its where my pi lives atm
[10:18] <daniel_j> <_<
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[10:19] <SyncYourDogmas> Although doesnnt matter if something is still local annd behind NAT
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[10:23] <SyncYourDogmas> Haha theres a good reason for it as well, Im not just insane
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[10:24] <Armand> That would be debatable. ;)
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[10:26] <Gamer1204> Hello, does anyone here have expirience with retropie or the sort and connecting an authentic snes controller to the GPIO pins?
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[10:27] <SyncYourDogmas> Ive just inforrmed an old uni friend he's welcome to practice penentration on it, clumsy botnet ssh attempts aree boring
[10:27] <SyncYourDogmas> Penetration testing*
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[10:43] <Gamer1204> Hello, does anyone here have expirience with retropie or the sort and connecting an authentic snes controller to the GPIO pins?
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[10:44] <ShorTie> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=16209
[10:45] <ShorTie> https://projects.drogon.net/nes-controller-on-the-raspberry-pi/
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[10:47] <Gamer1204> @ShorTie I attached it directly to my GPIO pins, but only 2 buttons work using this schematics
[10:47] <Gamer1204> http://blog.petrockblock.com/2012/10/21/the-retropie-gpio-adapter/
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[10:50] <ShorTie> sorry, don't see anywhere where you can directly hook them together without other hardware and have it work .. :/~
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[10:52] <Gamer1204> ooo
[10:52] <Gamer1204> neither did I
[10:52] <Gamer1204> well I found another fix, I hooked my xbox controller to it, works too, a bit weird though, but it works, thanks anyway :P
[10:53] <ShorTie> xbox is usb is it not ??
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[11:12] <Gamer1204> @ShorTie yes it is an usb receiver for my wireless xbnox 360 controller I bought from Chine(sorry I was away a bit)
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[11:17] <at0m|c> that's bluetooth like wiimote?
[11:19] <Gamer1204> I guess, I just bought a receiver that identifies as Microsoft Corp. Xbox 360 Wireless Receiver for Windows
[11:20] <ShorTie> that is the usb id chip saying that
[11:20] <Gamer1204> lsusb, so yes?
[11:21] <ShorTie> bluetooth is just the form factor of a type of wireless connection
[11:21] <Gamer1204> ikr, but I have no idea
[11:21] <Gamer1204> I guess it is bluetooth
[11:22] <ShorTie> just so it work right ??
[11:22] <Gamer1204> after following parts of https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/Setting-up-the-XBox360-controller
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[12:08] <jim87> hello! I'm trying to figure out why the USB serial device is not listed as /dev/ttyUSB0 - in DMESG I see it's first bound to /dev/ttyUSB0, then, 30 seconds later, it's disconnected. I know it works as the applications on the board interact with it, but I can't find it anywhere... Is there a way to see where it is bound on the fs? /proc/tty/drivers report it as "usbserial /dev/ttyUSB 188 0-511 serial"... thanks!
[12:16] <jim87> I've noticed there is a UDEV rule, may this affect it? SUBSYSTEM=="usb|usb_device", ACTION=="add", ATTRS{idVendor}=="0403", ATTRS{idProduct}=="6001", GROUP="plugdev"
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[12:45] <DoctorD90> good day guys! i have a little issue....i haveplug rpi on rca plug on monitor, but it takes a "strange" dimesnion. 800x600 is too small, i cant see terminallcommand. may i ask yu a little helpin seting dispaly dimensions?
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[12:57] <at0m|c> DoctorD90: check these options: http://elinux.org/RPiconfig#Video
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[13:05] <DoctorD90> at0m|c i would mean, sorry, suggesting some resolution :P 800x600 is too high, and i cant read well anythng
[13:05] <DoctorD90> no i try with another one......lets eboot
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[13:10] <DoctorD90> a little better....
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[13:11] <BCMM> DoctorD90: it might be better to increase font sizes than to decrease resolution. are you having trouble reading the linux VT or an X terminal?
[13:12] <DoctorD90> BCMM yes, but actual resolution it seems a little better
[13:12] <DoctorD90> 1.i-dhave to use hdmi insted of rca
[13:12] <BCMM> DoctorD90: you'd have to use hdmi instead of rca to change font sizes?
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[13:13] <BCMM> or i have misunderstood something?
[13:13] <DoctorD90> 2.my actual res is 640x480
[13:13] <DoctorD90> no i mean
[13:13] <BCMM> oh, you mean the actual physical resolution of hte monitor is lower than what the RCA plug is giving?
[13:13] <DoctorD90> with hdmi i havent "pixel" fonts
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[13:14] <BCMM> sorry, i thought you meant that the monitor was just really blurry, as analogue TVs tend to be
[13:14] <DoctorD90> i mean that i see troumbeling writes (Hz probably not the best) and writes are very pixeled...like 90's games
[13:14] <BCMM> (in which case dropping the resolution would probably add to the blurriness and be less effective than increasing font size)
[13:15] <DoctorD90> yes BCMM ...analog
[13:15] <BCMM> DoctorD90: can you link to the screen you are using?
[13:15] <pksato> if hdmi is on 640x480, hdmi-safe option is enabled on config.txt
[13:15] <BCMM> pksato: he's not using hdmi
[13:16] <DoctorD90> nope, it is tv analog/digital of "telefunken" ...so is notpossible for me retrieve id :P
[13:16] <pksato> ah... I still sleeping. :P
[13:16] <DoctorD90> pksato i have take with me rca, nothdmi :P
[13:16] <DoctorD90> i thing tha hdmi will help me xD
[13:17] <DoctorD90> btw, now i will try to use depth to 32....hoping it may help in definition...
[13:17] <BCMM> DoctorD90: while it's a common hack (or was in the windows xp era) to drop resolution below the native resolution of the monitor to get bigger fonts, it's always better to keep the screen at native resolution and increase font sizes properly
[13:17] <pksato> NTSC or PAL have low resolution, physical is always 640x480 (or near).
[13:17] <BCMM> ok
[13:17] <pksato> but, frame buffer can be set to any size.
[13:17] <BCMM> DoctorD90: i don't understand about telefunken; is it just a plain old analogue television?
[13:17] <DoctorD90> yes BCMM bt im searching native size xD
[13:18] <DoctorD90> telefunkenis the vendo
[13:18] <DoctorD90> vendor*
[13:18] <pksato> if icons and fonte are big, have a low frame buffer resolution.
[13:18] <DoctorD90> it is an nalaog television, with digitalearth signal added
[13:19] <DoctorD90> uhm....stupid guy| i may enter in setting of screen to lokking at! what dumbguy iam.....wait xD
[13:19] <BCMM> digitalearth being DVB-T?
[13:20] <DoctorD90> yes!
[13:21] <pksato> and, have overscan to set image crop/zoom,
[13:21] <BCMM> digitalearth being DVB-T? and framebuffer_height in config.txt are what you need i believe
[13:21] <DoctorD90> it is seted to be ntsc 3,58....maybe i have to set it to PAL....
[13:22] <BCMM> DoctorD90: which is the screen designed for? pal has a tiny bit more resolution
[13:22] <pksato> as exemple, pur on config.txt these line, framebuffer_width=1024 and framebuffer_height=768
[13:22] <BCMM> DoctorD90: also in config.txt you will want to adjust the overscan options, probably by trail and error
[13:22] <DoctorD90> yes, now it is setted to 640x480
[13:22] <DoctorD90> trail&error...exactly what imdoing xD
[13:22] <DoctorD90> i think it is PAL
[13:22] <DoctorD90> so i try to setconfig to pal
[13:23] <pksato> DoctorD90: that country?
[13:23] <DoctorD90> italy
[13:23] <BCMM> DoctorD90: if it's a european tv, PAL
[13:24] <DoctorD90> now, 640x480, pal seted, framebuf 32, alpha disabled.....let's see what it do xP
[13:24] <DoctorD90> yes, butit has ability to usentsc too
[13:24] <BCMM> sdtv_mode=2
[13:24] <pksato> if have color and stable image, mode is correct.
[13:24] <DoctorD90> but as im seeing it gives "pixels" screen xP
[13:25] <DoctorD90> yes mode 2 setted some second ago :D
[13:25] <pksato> flicking is ok.
[13:25] <DoctorD90> let's reboot :D
[13:26] <pksato> test with disable_overscan=1
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[13:27] <pksato> and after, play with overscan_left overscan_right overscan_top overscan_bottom
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[13:31] <DoctorD90> so, 640x480,depth 32, alpha disabled, palsetted
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[13:32] <DoctorD90> continuigto ....flick....like if hertz goes wrng...andnow it cuts let side....sme pixelz...lol
[13:32] <DoctorD90> disable overscanis comment
[13:32] <DoctorD90> what noob /./
[13:33] <DoctorD90> forget to uncomment depth to 32.....reboot >.>
[13:33] <pksato> analog tv is interlaced, flicking is expected.
[13:33] <DoctorD90> but with pal a little seems to be improved
[13:33] <DoctorD90> now i haveto use 32detpth
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[13:34] <DoctorD90> let-s see...
[13:34] <pksato> some parameter can be change onfly using tvservice.
[13:34] <DoctorD90> *strange is that with pal it cuts left side...just some pixels...but with ntscit didnt happend(
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[13:34] <pksato> pal have little bit more resolution.
[13:35] <pksato> 50Hz pal.
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[13:39] <DoctorD90> uhm...32 sems good....
[13:39] <DoctorD90> less pixeled writes....
[13:39] <DoctorD90> after 640x480 next resolution whatis_
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[13:51] <tjcarter> well, I seem to have broken systemd :)
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[13:51] <tjcarter> or systemd broke itself
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[13:55] <Xark> tjcarter: It seems to excel at that...
[13:55] <tjcarter> and that is the reason why systemd is less than optimal: if somewhere something starts generating errors (in my case /etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.freedesktop.systemd1.conf), nothing works right.
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[13:56] <tjcarter> my systemd package is listed as broken, and any other package that touches systemd is also broken
[13:57] <tjcarter> But the march to systemd will continue! You will be assimilated!
[13:57] <Xark> What could possibly go wrong? :)
[13:58] <tjcarter> well, I'm about to reflash my TF card? :)
[13:58] <tjcarter> So if that counts as something going wrong...
[13:59] <Xark> Its unpossible...
[13:59] <at0m|c> tjcarter: #systemd maybe
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[14:01] <tjcarter> at0m|c: probably they could help, or #debian since part of the problem appears to be created by a debhelper-autogenerated snippet in a postinst.
[14:01] <moobase> so how's arch on rpi working?
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[14:01] <moobase> will you have the same repository as archians?
[14:02] <at0m|c> tjcarter: #debian will support if you run plain debian.
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[14:04] <tjcarter> at0m|c: I don't, it's raspbian, but it's an issue with a wheezy-built package on jessie
[14:05] <tjcarter> unless the problem is purely systemd in which case there may have been a systemd update in jessie I didn't notice
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[14:06] <nid0> personally i'm happy with systemd & pi on wheezy at the moment, had a project come along that needed very fast boot time and systemd's made that much easier
[14:06] * Xark 's RPi2 is stuck in a "boot loop" from trying Jessie with latest rpi-update...(I am sure I can fix it, but haven't cared yet).
[14:06] <tjcarter> I need a few things to work that don't work in wheezy right
[14:06] <tjcarter> like tmux
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[14:07] <tjcarter> and weechat is basically incompatible with my .weechat directory it's so old
[14:08] <tjcarter> perhaps these things could be backported, but they can't just be built with dpkg-buildpackage on wheezy
[14:09] <tjcarter> My old B (runs some automation servers and a znc bouncer) had to run jessie because znc 1,4+ won't even compile on wheezy from source. Libs too old.
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[14:13] <tjcarter> AFAIK nobody's actually putting out even unofficial jessie images yet, so pretty much nobody's porting their stuff to jessie yet.
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[14:15] <at0m|c> tjcarter: i'm on stretch, actually.
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[14:23] <tjcarter> did weechat exist then? :D
[14:24] <tjcarter> or tmux? :D
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[14:25] <nils_2> whats your weechat version tjcarter ?
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[14:29] <tjcarter> 1.0.1 in jessie
[14:29] <tjcarter> On my mac at home it's like 1.2.0 or something
[14:30] <nils_2> did you try the wheezy package on weechat.org?
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[14:33] <tjcarter> didn't get that far because tmux's terminal emulation was too broken to use weechat
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[14:35] <nils_2> hmmm... i am using tmux/weechat on wheezy (rpi2)
[14:35] <tjcarter> I get very broken terminal emulation with the combo
[14:36] <tjcarter> perhaps related to 256color support?
[14:36] <nils_2> works fine here. i am responsible for the raspbian weechat packages. i build them on my rpi every night
[14:36] <tjcarter> or utf8
[14:37] <tjcarter> thanks for doing that :)
[14:37] <nils_2> a screenshot would be helpful. but maybe its better to /join #weechat :-)
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[14:39] <tjcarter> well, I just put a wheezy image on a TF card, so I'll try the package on the weechat page and catch a screenshot if it is wonky
[14:39] <tjcarter> It's possible that weechat 0.30(!) is just not as good at drawing things in the most compatible way.
[14:40] <nils_2> please. also "/debug term" is helpful. should be -> TERM='screen-256color'
[14:40] <tjcarter> well it certainly is on jessie
[14:40] <nils_2> weechat 0.3.0 is very, very, very old. and it does not support 256 color mode
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[14:41] <nils_2> and /charset -> Terminal: UTF-8, Intern: UTF-8
[14:43] <tjcarter> yeah I'll go straight for 1.2 when I set up the new TF card
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[14:45] <nils_2> you can query me or visit #weechat. no problem
[14:47] <tjcarter> thanks--for now I think bed's in order though, it's almost 6am :)
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[14:48] <Xark> tjcarter: Yeah. Similar time zone...
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[14:49] <nils_2> good night. (2.49 PM here)
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[15:03] <Bhaal> Is there any particular reason why the v4l2 driver won't work on an A+ ??
[15:04] <Bhaal> no matter what I try and use to connect to /dev/video0 I get a kernel oops
[15:05] <Bhaal> Ummm, 4.0.8+ kernel
[15:05] <Bhaal> and raspbian
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[15:08] <tjcarter> so much for getting to bed right away :P
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[15:08] <tjcarter> Are HTMI settings in config.txt basically ignored if you don't use NOOBS?
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[15:09] <tjcarter> I just booted an image without NOOBS that I pre-populated with my working config.txt video settings and I am getting 1080p. My screen doesn't actually support 1080p properly
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[15:18] <Tachyon`> no, they're ofen ignored if you /do/ use noobs
[15:18] <Tachyon`> if you're using raspbian or similar they should work
[15:18] <moobase> support for arch seems to be shit? So the NOOB dist is the only option?
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[15:19] <Tachyon`> for my 1366x768 tv I used these options:
[15:19] <Tachyon`> hdmi_group=2
[15:19] <Tachyon`> hdmi_mode=86
[15:19] <Tachyon`> config_hdmi_boost=4
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[15:20] <Tachyon`> but that had the unfortunate side effect of disabling sound.. had to wire it via analogue through my amp
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[15:21] <otwieracz> Hello
[15:22] <otwieracz> Does Nard support Raspi 2? (is raspi_b_rev2 equal to RaspberryPi 2?)
[15:22] <otwieracz> (http://www.arbetsmyra.dyndns.org/nard/)
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[15:41] <Tenkawa> hi all
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[15:46] <DoctorD90> hi Tenkawa
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[15:47] <McBride36> hi DoctorD90
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[15:48] <DoctorD90> hi McBride36
[15:48] <Tenkawa> whats new?
[15:48] <DoctorD90> im thinking to purchase esp8266-12 :P
[15:49] <Tenkawa> heheheh
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[15:50] <Tenkawa> brb.. need to test a new kernel
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[15:56] <Bhaal> Argh... cannot slow framerate of camera when using cvlc with v4l2:///dev/video0 ... --v4l2-fps seems to do nothing
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[16:34] <Tenkawa> Bilby: hey
[16:34] <Bilby> o/
[16:34] <Tenkawa> Bilby: where you in town for all of the weather craziness?
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[16:34] <Tenkawa> er were
[16:36] <Bilby> Yeah, crazipants
[16:37] <Bilby> we were going to go out and ended up ordering delivery instead :P
[16:37] <Tenkawa> Bilby: the reservoir was way full
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[16:37] <Tenkawa> saw a lot of standing water in neighborhoods
[16:38] <Bilby> Every time we drive over the olentangey I'm like O_O
[16:38] <Tenkawa> yeah
[16:38] <Tenkawa> they were all pretty bad though
[16:38] <Tenkawa> feels great now outside though
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[16:39] <Tenkawa> although I'm not convinced its not going to pour again
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[16:43] <Bilby> the weather lately is so crazy
[16:43] <Bilby> i was up at the mid-ohio track this weekend and it was just one big mud pit
[16:44] <Tenkawa> Bilby: yeah.. its definitely been even more odd than usual
[16:44] <Tenkawa> and thats saying a lot
[16:45] <Bilby> Yep
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[16:46] <Owlcarrier> Hello , i forgot my password and change tried using the cmdline.txt , but unsuccessfully
[16:48] <Bilby> Owlcarrier, are you using raspibian?
[16:49] <Owlcarrier> Bilby, yes
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[16:50] <Bilby> Did you try these steps? https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=20397&p=339520
[16:52] <Owlcarrier> yeah
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[16:54] <Bilby> What are you using to modify cmdline.txt ?
[16:54] <Owlcarrier> i think no
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[16:55] <Owlcarrier> in boot up show this error /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
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[16:58] <Bilby> Hmm.
[16:59] <Bilby> What did you use to modify the txt file?
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[17:00] <Owlcarrier> mousepad
[17:00] <Owlcarrier> xfce text editor
[17:01] <Bilby> ah
[17:02] <Bilby> that's a horrible name, even googling "mousepad software" hit nothign
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[17:02] <ali1234> http://git.xfce.org/apps/mousepad/
[17:03] <Tenkawa> bbiaf
[17:04] <Tenkawa> here goes another wild kernel modification heehee
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[17:04] <Bilby> lol
[17:05] <Bilby> Owlcarrier, that's pretty strange. Any reason you can't just nuke and pave?
[17:06] <Owlcarrier> Bilby, just time
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[17:07] <Bilby> Shouldn't take terribly long but i get your point. I'm not sure why that workaround doesn't work though
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[17:08] <Bilby> just to confirm this is what you did, right - http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2014/08/how-to-reset-a-forgotten-raspberry-pi-password/ - all on one line?
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[17:30] <moobase> how old are you guys?
[17:31] <McBride36> 36
[17:31] <DoctorD90> 90
[17:33] <Bilby> 867-5309
[17:33] <JK-47> You see the edi usb wifis for sale on #AmazonPrimeDay? picked up a few more
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[17:35] <Bilby> LoTR for $28
[17:35] <Bilby> Link: http://smile.amazon.com/dp/B007ZQAKHU
[17:35] <Owlcarrier> 30
[17:35] <Bilby> also lol @ seller - WarnerSOMGoldBox
[17:35] <Bilby> by Amazon.com, LLC *** KEEP PORules ACTIVE *
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[18:46] <jmole> Is anyone else getting a "Connection Refused" error on https://www.raspbian.org/
[18:47] <jmw> jmole: Nope, working fine on this side of the world
[18:47] <normalra> HTTP/1.1 200 OK here
[18:47] <jmole> hmm, staying at an airbnb, maybe it's their internet here.
[18:47] <Bilby> all good in the neighborhood here
[18:47] <Bilby> are you in like... north korea?
[18:48] <jmole> sigh.. time to find a VPN
[18:48] <jmole> LA.
[18:48] <Bilby> that's pretty close
[18:48] <jmole> lol
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[18:52] <otwieracz> Do you have any experience with Nard?
[18:53] <JK-47> Just Wolfman's
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[19:10] <obskyr> Yo, I got a question for anyone familiar with GPIO or hobby electronics in general.
[19:10] <obskyr> I want to connect a small stranded wire to a Dupont/jumper cable.
[19:10] <obskyr> And... I have no idea of how to do that.
[19:10] <obskyr> Stranded wire isn't rigid, so I can't push it into a female jumper connector.
[19:10] <ShorTie> solder and shrink tube ??
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[19:11] <obskyr> I was hoping to do it without soldering, since I don't have any of the supplies for that.
[19:11] <ShorTie> tin it and it becomes solid .. :/~
[19:11] <obskyr> I'm not averse to buying solder stuff in general, but... it just feels a bit meh to do that just for a single wire.
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[19:12] <ShorTie> Cubby Checker and tape them then
[19:12] <obskyr> Don't know if there's a better solution. I've got a wireless DS18B20 (https://www.adafruit.com/products/381) and I want to connect the three wires of it to GPIO.
[19:12] <obskyr> hmm, I know three of these words, I shall look them up
[19:13] <obskyr> I really know basically nothing about hobby electronics. I'm trying to learn, though.
[19:13] <obskyr> okay, "cubby checker" is most definitely not a term outside of '50s music.
[19:14] <ShorTie> ya, me referencing to the twist .. :)~
[19:15] <obskyr> Hahah, ah, got it.
[19:16] <obskyr> Yeah, I suppose that could work. Not very reliably, but I guess I could tape together a male jumper cable end with the wire.
[19:16] <obskyr> If anyone's got a better idea for connecting a DS18B20 to GPIO, feel free to jump in.
[19:16] <obskyr> 'Cause I'm nearly stumped here.
[19:17] <ShorTie> when i want to twist strained wire to gether to not come apart, i flatten and fan the wires out like your fingers, then interlock the fingers and twist each side
[19:17] <ShorTie> and the tape is just insolation then
[19:18] <ShorTie> if you can deciffer that
[19:18] <obskyr> I think I get what you're saying.
[19:18] <obskyr> Problem is, the other end isn't stranded wire.
[19:19] <obskyr> I want to connect it to one of these somehow. https://virtuabotix-virtuabotixllc.netdna-ssl.com/core/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/IMG_6508.jpg
[19:19] <ShorTie> ya
[19:19] <ShorTie> you can get ds18b20's with wires attached
[19:20] <obskyr> as mentioned, that's what I have right now
[19:20] <obskyr> Ohhh, you mean with the hard tips?
[19:20] <ShorTie> don't forget you do need a 4.7k ohm resistor in there too...
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[19:20] <obskyr> Yeah, I know. I'll cross that bridge when I get to it, though.
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[19:20] <obskyr> might have to get a solder kit, gah
[19:21] <ShorTie> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1Pcs-DS18b20-3Wire-Waterproof-Temperature-Sensors-Thermistor-Temperature-Control-/171812319683?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2800cff1c3
[19:21] <ShorTie> like that
[19:21] <ShorTie> little more $'s though
[19:22] <obskyr> That's the exact one I've got.
[19:22] <ShorTie> ok, those dupot cables are most likely stranded wire
[19:23] <ShorTie> so cut, strip, twist and tape
[19:23] <obskyr> I don't know, they feel pretty solid to me...
[19:23] <obskyr> I'll cut one up, though.
[19:23] <obskyr> I've got so many, so what the heck.
[19:23] <obskyr> now, question is how I get the resistor in there...
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[19:26] <ShorTie> leads on the resistor i'm sure are long enough to wrap around the twist a few times
[19:26] <obskyr> Yeah, you're right.
[19:27] <obskyr> I just didn't know if that'd be a viable solution.
[19:27] <obskyr> But hey, you sound like you've done this, so I'll trust your judgment.
[19:27] <ShorTie> might sound goofy, but a piece of duct tape might be better then electrical tape
[19:27] <obskyr> and, I mean, I've got 300 resistors so whatever if it goes wrong
[19:27] <obskyr> REally...?
[19:27] <obskyr> 'Cause I've got both.
[19:27] <obskyr> How come?
[19:27] <ShorTie> then you can do it flat and pinch the stuff in the tape
[19:28] <obskyr> Um... rephrase that maybe?
[19:28] <obskyr> Don't think I'm getting it.
[19:30] <ShorTie> take a piece of duct tape like 3" long, put the 2 wores and with the resister twist to them flat on the tape, then fold the tape back over it's self and the wires/resistors
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[19:31] <ShorTie> then the 3rd, ground wire, you can just tape up
[19:33] <ShorTie> or just add it into the flat taping, just make sure nothing is touching and press the tape firmly together
[19:34] <ShorTie> end up l00kin like a flag type thing, instead of tape wrapped around a wire
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[19:37] <moobase> hi
[19:37] <obskyr> Ah, gotcha.
[19:37] <obskyr> Yeah, that would probably be less messy.
[19:37] <obskyr> Hey there.
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[19:46] <moobase> so you get the NOOBs image and remove X to get a server pi?
[19:48] <moobase> running anything isn't trivial on rpi? You don't just 'make install' say wireshark?
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[19:58] <SyncYourDogmas>
[19:58] <SyncYourDogmas> moobase: apt-get install wireshark works ;)
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[20:00] <moobase> SyncYourDogmas: is the rpi repo a mirror of the debian repo but compiles for rpi or something?
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[20:01] <SyncYourDogmas> Not in all cases, but effectively yeah, using it feels the same
[20:02] <SyncYourDogmas> Minus the odd mssisng package
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[20:02] <k_j> any news?
[20:03] <k_j> when will the rpi3 be out?
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[20:05] <moobase> an rpi3 is on its way? it never ends
[20:05] <moobase> rolling out like the iPhones
[20:05] <RockyTV> is there a way for me to get cmake 2.8.12.2 in raspbian?
[20:05] <RockyTV> without compiling?
[20:05] <moobase> RockyTV: you have to find a compiled cmake for rpi
[20:06] <moobase> if it's not in the repo, you'll have to compile it yourself or find someone else who has done it for you, afaik
[20:07] <RockyTV> I don't understand why raspberry pi's repos have gcc4.7+ and don't have clang3.2+
[20:08] <RockyTV> just wondering, can I use debian's repositories?
[20:08] <RockyTV> or it would result in a catastrophic failure?
[20:08] <teclo-> that's not recommended RockyTV
[20:08] <teclo-> use raspbian
[20:09] <RockyTV> okay
[20:11] <RockyTV> thanks
[20:13] <teclo-> on my Debian 7.8 I got gcc Debian 4.7.2-5 and clang Debian clang version 3.0-6.2 (tags/RELEASE_30/final) (based on LLVM 3.0)
[20:13] <Bilby> I don't know what it would take to top the Rpi2
[20:13] <teclo-> I got a 8.x Debian machine too
[20:13] <Bilby> direct chipset support for ethernet or wifi, maybe
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[20:14] <RockyTV> this time nothing could go wrong
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[20:38] <heller_> hello
[20:41] <heller_> so how easy is to kill the raspberry pi 3v3 regulator
[20:41] <heller_> oh man
[20:42] <heller_> no to devs. identify the freaking pin1 on the pcb
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[20:49] <heller_> so how was the max current per pin?
[20:49] <heller_> for lets say, i have few leds
[20:49] <heller_> lets say five
[20:49] <heller_> is it okay to draw more than 4mA?
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[20:51] <moobase> heller_: does your power supply even allow you to do that?
[20:51] <detach-> it's a little weird that my rpi's dropping off the wireless network randomly
[20:51] <moobase> oh, nvm. 4mA is okay. I thought you meant 4A.. that's a lot
[20:51] <detach-> not sure where to start troubleshooting
[20:52] <heller_> detach-: better wireless dognel
[20:52] <heller_> dongle*
[20:52] <heller_> moobase: heheh yeah that is alot
[20:52] <moobase> heller_: wait, forget what I wrote. I'm so tired.
[20:52] <moobase> heller_: regarding 4mA. I'm not sure what you're doing
[20:52] <detach-> mine's pretty decent and supports hostap as well. i do also have a 2A power brick
[20:52] <heller_> but basically, is it okay to pull 10mA from 4 pins each?
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[20:53] <heller_> this is basically only for testing. but i might need leds to light up the image what raspicam sees
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[20:53] <heller_> detach-: what dongle is it?
[20:53] <moobase> I have the .zip. of NOOBS, but it contains no single image, just a lot of files
[20:54] <moobase> I can't write all those file to some random FAT32 filesystem on the SD-card.
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[20:57] <heller_> download a real image
[20:57] <Bilby> moobase, I think you downloaded the source files
[20:58] <Bilby> Did you download it from here? https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/
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[21:00] <moobase> yes, the NOOBS thing. I was expecting an image file, got something else.
[21:00] <moobase> does rpi 2 require me to use NOOBs or can I just get the rasparian image directly?
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[21:01] <Bilby> Hmm... don't unzip it I think... image directly to the card?
[21:01] <Bilby> moobase no need for noobs if you want raspibian
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[21:03] <moobase> if I want arch however, I'll have to run NOOBS?
[21:03] <moobase> how good is arch for rpi?
[21:04] <Bilby> you can get all of the distros in NOOBS as stand-alone
[21:05] <Bilby> if you go to https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/ and scroll below the NOOBS download, all of the individal OS are avaialble
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[21:05] <heller_> moobase: rasbpian works right away with rpi 2
[21:06] <detach-> heller_: tplink 727 i think (my rpi is in the basement and i'm lazy to go check it out)
[21:08] <moobase> if you dd the rapsian image to an sd card, don't you have to resize the partition later?
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[21:10] <Bilby> moobase, yes but it's part of raspi-config
[21:10] <Bilby> you can do it manually too
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[21:12] <heller_> what happens if you inout 3v3 to GPIO 2 without any resistor?
[21:12] <heller_> for very short time
[21:13] <heller_> does it kill the gpio?
[21:13] <moobase> heller_: that's a short circuit
[21:13] <moobase> heller_: you'll get a really high current there and burn something
[21:13] <moobase> at least in principle, unless there's some kind of resistance somewhere that won't burn out in the process.
[21:14] <heller_> well its still on
[21:14] <heller_> ask me what happened
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[21:14] <moobase> heller_: I suspect there's some built in resistance or your load had some internal resistance. I'm new to rpi so I wouldn't do what you just did
[21:14] <heller_> well ill tell you anyway. wife happened
[21:14] <heller_> there was no load
[21:15] <heller_> just a wire between 3v3 and GPIO2
[21:15] <heller_> aaah actually you know what
[21:15] <heller_> again im reaging the pins wrong
[21:15] <moobase> Bilby: so you mean that the partition will expand the first time you boot raspian?
[21:15] <heller_> it was GPIO21 and GPIO20
[21:15] <heller_> so no harmo done?
[21:15] <moobase> idk :3
[21:15] <moobase> I'm a noob
[21:16] <H__> moobase: you want to expand the partition after first time boot ?
[21:16] <Bilby> moobase, when you boot it the first time I think it automatically runs raspi-config. if it doesn't, just type sudo raspi-config at a command prompt
[21:16] <H__> heller_: http://pi.gadgetoid.com/pinout/wiringpi which pins again ?
[21:17] <heller_> BCM 20 and BMC 21
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[21:17] <H__> I see no problems on connecting those two
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[21:19] <Broly> https://www.dropbox.com/s/zu147cl60i2nkbv/k41-Image_zImage_DTB_2b.zip?dl=0 updated zImage/Image+dtb for 2b (kernel 4.1). hopefully someone puts this to good use. my current FULL RPI (w/ mods) is ubuntu mate, and i am on OSX (FS mucking isn't my idea of fun). this should be sufficient to build modules though. it boots without issues if zImage renamed to kernel.img and the dtb file is put in root dir
[21:19] <Broly> save the vitriol pls
[21:19] <Broly> ty
[21:23] <Bilby> I literally have no idea what any of that means, but thank you?
[21:24] <heller_> how can i speedup my long to raspberry?
[21:24] <heller_> takes too long from entering login name to enter password
[21:26] <Bilby> So you put your user id in and hit enter and it takes a long time to be able to enter the password?
[21:26] <heller_> yes
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[21:26] <normalra> is it in a graphical interface?
[21:26] <heller_> nope
[21:26] <Bilby> hmm. even on a Pi B that should be fairly quick
[21:26] <heller_> almost pure raspbian
[21:26] <Bilby> direct, or via ssh?
[21:26] <normalra> strange
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[21:27] <heller_> ssh
[21:27] <heller_> well raspberry pi b+ is faster in that matter than my new rpi2
[21:27] <Broly> :/
[21:27] <Broly> lol
[21:27] <Bilby> even so... that shouldn't take long. either crazy bad latency or the install is looking for something and waiting to time out before defaulting
[21:27] <heller_> on the login only ofc
[21:27] <Bilby> like... a non-default password file or something?
[21:27] <heller_> actually the B+ is half way closer to wlan than this other one
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[21:28] <Broly> did you update the kernel at all
[21:28] <heller_> well this B2 prolly has a new raspian
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[21:29] <heller_> kernel is 3.12.28 on b+ and 3.18.11 at b2
[21:29] <Broly> should be sufficient
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[21:32] <k_j> heller_, isn't it 4.x now?
[21:33] <heller_> what then
[21:33] <heller_> :)
[21:33] <Broly> 4.0 i think
[21:33] <Broly> depends on the distro though i think and you have to use apt-cache
[21:33] <heller_> ah, dunno
[21:33] <k_j> Linux raspberrypi 4.0.7-v7+
[21:34] <k_j> it seems much better
[21:34] <heller_> how so
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[21:34] <k_j> it's more responsive
[21:35] <Broly> lol
[21:35] <Broly> reminiscent of the people subjectively saying x64 windows xp was snappier (subjective but possible) in comparison to i386
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[21:39] <moobase> can rpi set USB ports to sleep? Want to turn off USB lamp on demand
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[21:40] <heller_> yay its working
[21:40] <heller_> long time no python+rpi
[21:40] <Bilby> xp x64 was probably faster because so many x86 libraries weren't included
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[22:24] <heller_> anyone used webpiopi or wirinpi?
[22:24] <Bilby> I've used webiopi
[22:24] <heller_> should i use webiopi or wiringpi to assist me making webpage with GPIO buttons
[22:25] <ShorTie> wiringPi is C based
[22:25] <heller_> so webpiopi then
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[22:28] <heller_> if i download webiopi and use it almost only as an example. do i still need to use daemon?
[22:28] <heller_> or run it at background
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[22:37] <Tenkawa> Anyone know offhand why a usb attached drive might not read at boot however if unplugged and plugged back in its fine?
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[22:38] <Tenkawa> dmesg looks like the system sees it then goes confused. until its reconnected
[22:39] <ShorTie> power issue maybe ??
[22:39] <ShorTie> is it powered by the pi or externally powered ?
[22:40] <ShorTie> ?
[22:41] <Tenkawa> the pi.. however why would it work just by reconnecting it?
[22:41] <Tenkawa> (mind you i'm still using an sd root/boot)
[22:42] <ShorTie> this is a rpi2 right, are you using the current hack ??
[22:42] <Tenkawa> rpi2 yes... current hack.. not sure
[22:42] <Tenkawa> tell me more
[22:43] <ShorTie> you got good quality micro-usb power cable
[22:43] <Tenkawa> ahh the max_usb_current setting right?
[22:43] <ShorTie> current hack is maxcurrent=1 in config.txt that you gotta emanually add
[22:44] <ShorTie> ya, what ever the exact thing is
[22:44] <Tenkawa> yeah its set to 1
[22:44] <ShorTie> but this is Debian with your own kernel not raspbian right ??
[22:45] <Tenkawa> yep
[22:45] <Tenkawa> heh
[22:45] <Tenkawa> so who knows what I'm doing to it
[22:45] <ShorTie> whelp, you said it
[22:45] <ShorTie> Laughs Out Loud
[22:45] <Tenkawa> I'll debug it.. just wanted to make sure I wasnt missing something majorly obvious
[22:45] <Tenkawa> thanks though
[22:46] <ShorTie> i'd stick to the foundations kernels if it twas me, i do
[22:46] <Tenkawa> meh
[22:46] <ShorTie> da got all kinds of extras and goodies in there
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[22:46] <ShorTie> run a diff, lol.
[22:47] <Tenkawa> I've been kernel tuning/coding for so long its more comfortable if I adjust them to fit the scenario
[22:47] * ShorTie thinkz i did
[22:47] <Tenkawa> and fun
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[22:47] <ShorTie> it not an adjust/fit issue, it's a add code to make things work right thing
[22:48] <Tenkawa> this one maybe.. i'm just saying in general
[22:49] <ShorTie> i use to do that too with Gentoo, always wanted the leanest/meanest kernel i could get
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[22:50] <Tenkawa> ahh ha
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[22:50] <Tenkawa> found part of the problem
[22:51] <Tenkawa> drawing extra power from unused eth port
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[22:52] <soapdish> wow
[22:52] <soapdish> btsync 2.0 is now paid for more than 10 sync'd folders?
[22:53] <soapdish> thats the most retardedest thing ever invented in the history of things invented in the world
[22:55] <bigmac88> i bought btsync pro, one of the best apps I've ever paid for/supported
[22:56] <Tenkawa> what is it? bluetooth syncing?
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[22:57] <soapdish> its just p2p file syncing
[22:57] <soapdish> really easy to setup
[22:57] <Tenkawa> ahh
[22:58] <soapdish> think i'll try sparkleshare though
[22:59] <RockyTV> is znc in raspbian's repository up to date? like, is it version 1.x?
[22:59] <bigmac88> true
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[23:20] <Tenkawa> ShorTie: needed the delay_use boot setting
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[23:20] <Tenkawa> put that in and tada
[23:21] <Tenkawa> usb-storage.delay_use=5
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[23:43] <Tenkawa> the pi2 has no usb only boot right? it stil; needs a microsd boot/kernel doesnt it?
[23:48] <soapdish> correct
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[23:50] <Tenkawa> ok good.. my memory isnt completely gone
[23:50] <Tenkawa> hhehe
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