#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-07-17

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[0:20] <agile_prg> anyone doing canopen programming on a raspberrypi?
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[0:22] <agile_prg> can I run lubunt 3 in virtualbox on windows?
[0:22] <agile_prg> lubuntu I meant
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[2:34] <agile_prg> hello anyone here?
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[2:37] <Roonix> hello there :D
[2:38] <Roonix> it's pretty quiet in here, though it is late I guess
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[2:40] <agile_prg> Roonix what operating system are you running on your raspberry pi?
[2:42] <Roonix> Im on Raspbian right now, on my RPi 1 Model B though im thinking of trying Arch and on my RPi 2 I have Ubuntu Mate
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[2:43] <Roonix> I also have an SD card with RetroPie on, but I think that also uses Raspbian
[2:44] <Roonix> You?
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[2:59] <ltwally> Anyone with experience getting a Trendnet TEW-804UB to work with a Pi2 ?
[2:59] <ltwally> OSMC works great, but does not recognise this adapter. :(
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[3:02] <tjcarter> I guess there's some debate over with the Pi 2 and Jessie's release whether or not Raspbian is still necessary/relevant, I think I would answer that it is.
[3:04] <tjcarter> And not just for compatibility with the original Pi
[3:05] <tjcarter> The real question is whether or not to stick with the Debian philosophy of compiling for the lowest common denominator (armv6hf) or whether armv7 really warrants a new architecture.
[3:05] <ltwally> uhm... does this have anything to do with my question ?
[3:06] <tjcarter> nope, observations made out loud :)
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[3:06] <tjcarter> I don't have the adapter in question, though I thought most Trendnet stuff "just works", so I'm surprised it isn't for you.
[3:07] <ltwally> no dice. and the OSMC / Kodi / Pi forums have been no help so far.
[3:07] <ltwally> thought maybe someone on IRC would have a good idea. 'cause i'm totally new to the Pi.
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[3:08] <tjcarter> Well, the one thing about irc is that often your question gets answered half an hour or so after you've asked it :)
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[3:08] <ltwally> the darn thing doesn't include gcc, or i'd try this: https://github.com/caljorden/rtl8812AU_8821AU_linux
[3:09] <tjcarter> Kodi doesn't?
[3:09] <tjcarter> Oh, it'd use OpenELEC
[3:09] <Roonix> what distro are you using Kodi on?
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[3:10] <ltwally> OSMC
[3:10] <ltwally> so far, i've been very pleased with the experience... other than the lack of support for the wifi adapter i just bought.
[3:11] <Roonix> can you not "sudo apt-get install build-essential" to get gcc?
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[3:12] <ozzzy_> I tried 'sudo apt-get more beer' and it didn't work
[3:12] * tjcarter sits corrected, OSMC doesn't use OpenELEC as a base, it uses Debian and probably Raspbian, so installing build-essential should be a thing that you can do...
[3:12] <ltwally> beats me. i've never needed to install GCC like that. see, i'm already glad that i asked IRC
[3:16] <ltwally> looks like "sudo apt-get install build-essential" is working
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[3:24] <ltwally> well, make bombed out. :(
[3:27] <ltwally> "make[1]: *** /lib/modules/3.18.13-1-osmc/build: No such file or directory. Stop."
[3:27] <ltwally> ideas?
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[3:40] <blurider> I've been using my RPi2 as a wireless router. I'd like to add some ethernet ports to it, so I bought a switch. I also receive internet via an ethernet cable. How can I make it so that I can receive internet via the switch and still have the RPi2 act as a router via the switch?
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[3:45] <blurider> Is it possible to do this without having to pick up a USB->ethernet adapter/
[3:46] <Peppi> blurider: anything is possible given enough time and money
[3:46] <blurider> Peppi: I don't think money factors in here.
[3:47] <Peppi> blurider: money is always a factor
[3:47] <Peppi> blurider: anyhow it's possible
[3:47] <blurider> Peppi: I already have the Pi and the switch. If I only have these two devices, is it possible to connect the RPi2 to the internet via ethernet and also act as a router via the same switch?
[3:48] <Peppi> do you have two ethernet ports on the pi?
[3:49] <blurider> Peppi: No, which is why I asked if it's possible without a USB->Ethernet adapter
[3:49] <JK-47> you can do routing on a stick.
[3:49] <JK-47> basically in and out the same port on the rpi.
[3:49] <JK-47> or vlan it
[3:49] <blurider> JK-47: Can you elaborate a bit?
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[3:50] <JK-47> which part
[3:50] <blurider> JK-47: VLAN
[3:51] <JK-47> do you know what they are?
[3:51] <blurider> JK-47: Yeah. I'm just wondering how I'd get it done via the switch
[3:52] <JK-47> packets tagged with an ID marker.
[3:52] <JK-47> smart switch or dumb?
[3:52] <blurider> JK-47:Doesn't say. I think dumb.
[3:52] <JK-47> if dumb, hopefully itll just pass it through.
[3:53] <JK-47> i know my cable modem i can vlan it. so that would be vlan 999 coming from the back. then i would set my rpi to use 999 as a tagged interface, and then my inside as a native vlan (untagged)
[3:53] <JK-47> with vlan 1 or some other number
[3:53] <JK-47> or vice versa if your internet connection cant vlan, but inside systems can
[3:54] <blurider> JK-47: Don't know. I use TWC.
[3:56] <blurider> JK-47: So you're saying I can do this without a smart switch?
[3:56] <JK-47> depends
[3:56] <JK-47> on how it handles MTU sizing
[3:58] <blurider> JK-47: You've lost me there. Im' not sure how MTU sizing would affect whether or not I can use vlans on a dumb switch.
[3:58] <blurider> JK-47: If I have a dumb switch, does that mean I need the cable modem to do the VLAN?
[3:59] <JK-47> 4byte or 14byte frame check seq
[4:00] <JK-47> you could just decrease your network layer mtu to compensate though.
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[4:01] <JK-47> http://www.wildpackets.com/images/compendium/VLAN_Tag_GigaPeek.gif
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[4:03] <blurider> JK-47: With the unmanaged switch, would my ISP be aware of the other devices?
[4:04] <JK-47> potentially
[4:04] <JK-47> not easily. just depends where dhcp is coming from and if they deep packet inspected
[4:04] <JK-47> usually not in their bother
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[4:04] <blurider> JK-47: I think I'm going to go with a smart switch then. With that I'd just set up 2 vlan's right?
[4:05] <JK-47> easiest would be to just buy a usb to ethernet dongle lol
[4:05] <JK-47> and use the rpi as a man in the middle router.
[4:05] <JK-47> $15 solution.
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[4:06] <blurider> JK-47: Yeah you're probably a right. I'm seeing the cheapest smart switch to be $25 here. The switch cost $8, and the cheapest USB->Ethernet is $13
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[4:07] <JK-47> a $25 switch probably wouldnt have what you want anyway
[4:08] <blurider> JK-47: It has VLANs. But, I want my RPi2 to be the router anyway.
[4:08] <blurider> JK-47: Oh yes. I get what you're saying.
[4:08] <JK-47> vlans basically just let the rpi do it all over 1 physical interface
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[4:09] <blurider> JK-47: Yeah, which would have better perfomrance?
[4:10] <JK-47> 2 adapters
[4:10] <JK-47> but your internet connection probably is the weakest link
[4:10] <blurider> JK-47: all right. thanks a lot then!
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[4:21] <ltwally> looks like i'm missing the linux headers, and OSMC doesn't have the option to install them. awesome
[4:22] <ltwally> thanks for pointing me in the right direction
[4:22] <ltwally> looks like i'm going to get to try OpenELEC, next ;)
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[4:42] <tjcarter> when I play a sound using aplay, the screen (under lxde) flashes black when the program starts and when it stops. I've noticed similar issues when playing videos in midori
[4:42] <tjcarter> Any idea what could be causing that?
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[4:43] <tjcarter> actually it seems to be any audio playback
[4:44] <tjcarter> and it happens in terminal as well
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[4:51] <tjcarter> might it be because I use HDMI video output?
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[5:48] <tjcarter> I can now confirm: The screen flashes to black for about 0.5 second whenever audio is output to HDMI. If audio is output instead to 3.5mm plug, that doesn't happen.
[5:48] <tjcarter> I'm not sure how to debug it though
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[5:57] <Roonix> hmmm maybe it is due to a loss of signal, have you tried boosting it by adding "config_hdmi_boost=4" in the /boot/config.txt?
[5:57] <Roonix> without the quotatin marks ofc
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[5:58] <Roonix> quotation*
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[5:59] <Roonix> sorry not adding, just uncomment it as it should already be in the file
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[7:26] <The_Borg> is there a list of programs that are in the raspbian repo?
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[7:27] <The_Borg> http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian/dists/wheezy/main/binary-armhf/Packages
[7:27] <The_Borg> found
[7:28] <The_Borg> big list 34mb
[7:28] <NedScott> all of the things
[7:29] <The_Borg> trying to work out how to runn a speech recognition
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[7:30] <The_Borg> dont know if my mic is not good or some other configure with background noises and speech being non disernable
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[7:38] <The_Borg> file is too big for gedit to search on the PI
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[8:58] <lambdumb> my rPi reset after a power outage and some of its filesystem is corrupt. apt-get and samba have symbol lookup errors
[8:58] <lambdumb> how can I run fsck on the filesystem over ssh?
[8:59] <skyroveRR> lambdumb: you should NOT run fsck on a running system.
[9:00] <lambdumb> wouldn't it be safe if I unmounted the filesystem?
[9:00] <skyroveRR> Yes it is safe once you unmount it, but not when it's mounted.
[9:00] <lambdumb> can I do that over ssh?
[9:01] <skyroveRR> Yes.
[9:03] <lambdumb> sudo umount /dev/mmcblk0p1 right
[9:03] <skyroveRR> Run the mount command, it'll show you which partitions are mounted, then decide which one to unmount.
[9:05] <lambdumb> umount says the target is busy
[9:06] <skyroveRR> Yup, see what I said earlier.
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[9:07] <lambdumb> what should I do, then
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[9:08] <skyroveRR> lambdumb: /dev/mmcblk0p1 is clearly mounted, you shouldn't run fsck on a mounted system to be specific, and a running system in general, what you should do is power off the pi, take the SD card to some computer that runs linux, and then fsck from it.
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[9:36] <day> skyroveRR: im pretty sure you can umount the drive, make the changes and remount it again
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[11:00] <MY123> raylee, ping
[11:00] <raylee> hey
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[11:28] <x86_64> what is the best quality HDMI -> VGA active converter for raspberry pi B?
[11:29] <MY123> x86_64, for a Pi2, you only need a VGA666 adapter using the GPIO
[11:29] <x86_64> wtf
[11:29] <x86_64> sorry, wats that
[11:29] <x86_64> aha
[11:30] <x86_64> so the GPIO is like a PCI socket on the mainboard?
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[11:30] <MY123> x86_64, no
[11:30] <MY123> x86_64, it's using the HW DPI bus
[11:32] <BCMM> x86_64: the gpio is more general-purpose than that (it's in the name...)
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[11:33] <BCMM> pci has addresses and protocols and stuff
[11:33] <x86_64> ok
[11:33] <x86_64> ...but
[11:33] <x86_64> i have to make one myself.
[11:33] <BCMM> the GPIO can be treated as just a number of pins you can turn on and off
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[11:33] <x86_64> make the vga666
[11:33] <BCMM> although a few of the pins are special and do optionally speak some "real" protocols like i2c i think
[11:34] <x86_64> ok
[11:35] <lala> Hey x86_64.
[11:35] <x86_64> uh... and would the pi 2 b+ be a good server for personal use and some couple of friends?
[11:35] <lala> How is your project going?
[11:35] <x86_64> lala, history
[11:35] <lala> Pi 2 B+ isn't made yet.
[11:35] <x86_64> connected to the internet ofc
[11:35] <x86_64> is it not?
[11:36] <lala> Nope. Only Pi 2 B so far.
[11:36] <x86_64> ok, what about the B, can it be a server like said
[11:36] <MY123> A Pi3 should be possible :-)
[11:36] <lala> x86_64: Yes.
[11:36] <x86_64> hmmmm
[11:36] <MY123> (after some shouting about the nonstandard RPi2 interrupt controller)
[11:37] <x86_64> see, the problem is: i dont have the time and skills to make my own vga666, what can i do?
[11:37] <lala> Uh...
[11:37] <x86_64> they said they dont sell it
[11:37] <lala> VGA display?
[11:37] <x86_64> yes
[11:37] <x86_64> am i left behind?
[11:38] <lala> Hmm... And what's stopping you from using HDMI?
[11:38] <x86_64> because i already have plenty of monitors with vga
[11:38] <lala> Buy an HDMI to VGA cable instead for under $10.
[11:38] <lala> Or something.
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[11:39] <lala> Should make life easier.
[11:39] <lala> I think.
[11:39] <lala> Or at least under $15.
[11:39] <lala> x86_64: That's the best bet.
[11:39] <x86_64> ok thanks
[11:40] <lala> Because you won't have to worry about making stuff.
[11:40] <MY123> lala, such cables doesn't work
[11:40] <MY123> (no adapter inside)
[11:40] <lala> MY123: Hmm...
[11:40] <MY123> (read: logic)
[11:40] <lala> Right...
[11:41] <lala> You'll need to convert digital to analog.
[11:41] <lala> And that converter might be more pricey.
[11:41] <x86_64> ok ill get a monitor with hdmi if they have one around here
[11:41] <lala> Where is an expert on this?
[11:42] <lala> Most modern monitors have HDMI.
[11:42] <lala> x86_64: My monitor didn't but it used DVI, which is similar to HDMI stuff, so the HDMI to DVI cable worked for me.
[11:42] <lala> Check if your monitors have DVI.
[11:43] <x86_64> oh, and what does the pi use? dvi or hdmi?
[11:43] <lala> HDMI.
[11:43] <lala> But you can get an HDMI to DVI cable like me from Amazon, which is under $10.
[11:44] <x86_64> ok
[11:44] <SyncYourDogmas> Bear in mind you lose sound
[11:44] <SyncYourDogmas> Well
[11:44] <lala> That's why I suggested the HDMI to VGA but apparently the conversion, as MY123 specified, is more complicated.
[11:44] <SyncYourDogmas> Its separated
[11:44] <x86_64> wait a second...
[11:44] <x86_64> https://www.pi-supply.com/product/gert-vga-666-hardware-vga-raspberry-pi/ it looks to be for sell here
[11:44] <x86_64> thats great
[11:44] <lala> SyncYourDogmas: Well it has a separate audio thing.
[11:44] <SyncYourDogmas> Yeah
[11:45] <MY123> x86_64, be wary that it's a kit you will have to solder yourself
[11:45] <lala> x86_64: That doesn't look so plug-and-play.
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[11:45] <lala> MY123: I was about to say.
[11:46] <x86_64> oh yeah, i saw the reviews
[11:46] <SyncYourDogmas> My Amazon one was a decent products price
[11:46] <x86_64> its weird, why do most people who use raspberry pi know so much electronics and have the time for it?
[11:47] <SyncYourDogmas> I know comp sci, but no clue about electronics
[11:47] <lala> x86_64: Lol.
[11:47] <SyncYourDogmas> Dont know what to do with the pins
[11:47] <lala> Don't feel intimidated. We all start off knowing nothing.
[11:47] <lala> I still don't know much.
[11:48] <lala> I probably don't know anything.
[11:48] <x86_64> ok
[11:49] <lala> x86_64: Keep me updated on your stuff.
[11:49] <x86_64> yeah ok
[11:49] <SyncYourDogmas> x86_64: because its q great geeks toy. I put mine in front of my router firewall for example, i
[11:49] <x86_64> i...?
[11:49] <SyncYourDogmas> And yeah everyone finds it hard at first
[11:49] <lala> I'll be around. Take care.
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[11:49] <SyncYourDogmas> I would never do that to my laptop
[11:49] <x86_64> well, if i buy that kit, would it be hard to solder and stuff?
[11:49] <x86_64> MY123,
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[11:50] <MY123> x86_64, a 0.1mm soldering iron works fine
[11:50] <MY123> (may be overkill though)
[11:51] <x86_64> and i dont know electronics apart from ohms law
[11:51] <x86_64> :p
[11:51] <MY123> x86_64, you will need to be able to "decode" the value of resistances from the color band
[11:52] <MY123> (easy job really)
[11:52] <SyncYourDogmas> Can this be done in not assembly?
[11:52] <SyncYourDogmas> GPIO things
[11:52] <x86_64> for someone who is color blind. okay
[11:53] <x86_64> sorry, lots of bricks and blocks around. my life is a mess, gotta sort stuff out
[11:53] <x86_64> alot
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[12:10] <niston> hmm
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[12:11] <niston> new odroid with octacore exynos, 2GB ram and twp usb 3.0 ports
[12:11] <niston> s/twp/two
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[12:25] <tjcarter> Wouldn't mind seeing USB 3.0 on a Pi v3 that's for sure
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[12:27] <SyncYourDogmas> tjcarter: what for? My bottleneck is always cpu
[12:29] <MY123> niston, and Mali GPU?
[12:29] <MY123> (PowerVR Rogue is better for GPGPU)
[12:32] <tjcarter> SyncYourDogmas: I figure on a v3 Pi we'd see newer, faster CPUs being cheaper. Probably not up to what USB 3.0 can do, but still. USB 3.0 is generally faster, is specced to be able to handle more power (mostly important for fewer cords if your power supply is beefy enough), and the USB interface isn't a bottleneck if you're going for external storage.
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[12:33] <tjcarter> It's more than just buzzword compliance :)
[12:35] <SyncYourDogmas> tjcarter: aye that's true about external storage. Power sounds great too
[12:37] <tjcarter> Obviously the Pi can only deliver the power you feed it, but I can feed the power if you give me a suitable power connector.
[12:39] <tjcarter> Some HATs I've seen have high current DC jacks that can feed power through the 5v pin, but most high-power USB 3.0 hubs I've seen use a 12v supply and power multiple 5v rails off that.
[12:41] <tjcarter> The other thing I'm looking for is a 40 pin GPIO protection/buffering board. Several 26 pin options exist.
[12:42] <SyncYourDogmas> I use powered hubs and its still not enough. Wkfi adapters are such power hogs. GotmampimB 2 today, we'll see what thats like
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[12:43] <SyncYourDogmas> Do you know a good resource for learning how to use the pins? Not a beginner one designed for non technical people
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[12:44] <tjcarter> Probably the simplest would be included with something like the FUZE
[12:44] <tjcarter> Adafruit has a few basic tutorials, as does the RPi mothership
[12:45] <tjcarter> A lot of these use the Pi as a glorified arduino, but *shrug* you gotta start somewhere.
[12:49] <SyncYourDogmas> Thanks
[12:50] <SyncYourDogmas> I don't need an intro to boolean logic for example
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[12:51] <tjcarter> Mostly there's a lot of intros to stuff like accessing the GPIO pins in Python, Scratch, or C.
[12:52] <SyncYourDogmas> Ah python or C, fantastic!
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[12:52] <tjcarter> That said, you can more safely get used to the hardware side of things using an adruino
[12:53] <tjcarter> There's a bit of resources out there for the Pi, but there's a metric crapton for the arduino, and I've seen clone UNO R3s on eBay for US$6
[12:53] <SyncYourDogmas> I just want to fully use my pi tbh
[12:54] <tjcarter> The Pi 2 is still somewhat scarce. $6 UNO R3 clones are everywhere.
[12:54] <tjcarter> Little fear of frying one :)
[12:55] <tjcarter> And WiringPi is kind of modeled on Wiring, the C++ish language used to program the Arduino.
[12:57] <SyncYourDogmas> Ive just bought a pi 2 though
[12:57] <tjcarter> The last argument in favor of picking up an Arduino clone and using that is the fact that the Pi runs Linux and is therefore not a real-time OS. An AVR is a real-time microcontroller. And you can interface it with the Pi using USB or via the I2C or SPI buses, in addition to just communicating over other GPIO pins.
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[12:57] <SyncYourDogmas> And use it for networking stuff
[12:57] <tjcarter> Basically, the two together can do a LOT of cool things.
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[13:00] <tjcarter> I'm presently using my Pi 2 as a "desktop computer" (Midori crashes often) at my fiancee's place. I'm connected to a znc bouncer at home which is why I appear to be ircing from amaya's IP (that's my Mac at home--I have a few external ports redirected to my Pi model B)
[13:04] <SyncYourDogmas> I use my B 1 for ids,firewall, web cache ,ssh, honeypots,dev, ports can blocker etc
[13:04] <SyncYourDogmas> Gonna run a small site and bots from pi 2
[13:05] <SyncYourDogmas> What do you use microcontrollers for, you personally?
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[13:07] <tjcarter> Mostly tinkering at this stage. And not a whole lot of that. I'm legally blind, so a lot of the components are really hard to work with unless they are labeled and whatnot in a way that I can use them.
[13:08] <tjcarter> In "real world" applications, they're not. Unless I built the real-world application, and my soldering skills aren't up to the task.
[13:09] <tjcarter> My interest in it though is being able to use it as a platform for teaching kids
[13:09] <tjcarter> probably build a lot of turtle robots and the like :)
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[13:10] <tjcarter> I am also very much a retro computing sort of person--I actually like stuff like Fuze Basic
[13:11] <tjcarter> But then, it's no secret that if I could get a localized US version of the Fuze Workstation for a price that doesn't have me paying UK VAT, I'd be all over that.
[13:13] <tjcarter> I might also be interested in controlling RGBW LED strips
[13:15] <tjcarter> It's kinda overkill to do it with my Pi, but I happen to know that one can emulate a Hue server, and I kinda want control of the LED strips using stuff made for Hue.
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[13:34] <aleec1> does it matter what platform I'm using when I'm installing debian packages? (raspberry pi). Do you get the binary or source code?
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[13:35] <tjcarter> as Debian armhf is not the same as raspbian armhf, get the source
[13:39] <aleec1> the rpi repo seems heavily outdated. Not usually a problem, but it is when it comes to internet services that could be vulnerable
[13:39] <tjcarter> Raspbian is Debian Wheezy based
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[13:39] <aleec1> so, I get gcc and then compile my stuff? :)
[13:39] <tjcarter> There exists a Debian Jesse repo, but it's not got any training wheels
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[13:40] <aleec1> training wheels?
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[13:41] <tjcarter> raspi-config cannot change whether it boots to lightdm or directly into scratch or stays with the terminal, for example
[13:41] <tjcarter> You can do that yourself if you know systemd, but raspi-config doesn't know how to do it for you.
[13:42] <aleec1> thanks mate :)
[13:43] <tjcarter> also, 3rdparty packages may or may not work without rebuild
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[13:43] <MY123> tjcarter, Raspbian ARMHF bins WILL work on Debian
[13:43] <tjcarter> MY123: but will Debian armhf packages work on Raspbian?
[13:43] <tjcarter> assuming you have a Pi 2 of course
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[13:44] <aleec1> without rebuild? what do you mean?
[13:45] <tjcarter> Can a Pi 2 owner just add a Debian armhf repo to sources.list and expect it to work?
[13:46] <aleec1> so if I want a new version of openssl, I'll have to get the source and compile it?
[13:46] <tjcarter> Mostly I assume that since raspbian is armv6hf and debian is armv7, it's best not to mix the two, even though the Pi 2 is properly armv7 and armv6hf code runs fine.
[13:46] <tjcarter> That's my assumption
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[13:54] <[Saint]> Bah.
[13:54] <[Saint]> Imgur can't handle 32 bit bitmaps.
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[13:59] <SyncYourDogmas> What do you use microcontrollers for, you personally? But to each his own. Ive acually ordered some LED lights for my pi - as basic feedback as I run it headless mostly. Also, not gonna lie, I love all the lights making it look cyperpunk
[14:00] <SyncYourDogmas> Sorry that got buthceed
[14:01] <SyncYourDogmas> tjcarter: first sentance was to meant to say Icant see an advantage of basic over say python, but to each his own. Do you mean import tax or VAT?
[14:04] <ozzzy_> I see no need to learn python
[14:05] <SyncYourDogmas> If you know a similar scripting language, theres not
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[14:05] <ozzzy_> I already write in perl, php and c
[14:06] <ozzzy_> on the windows side I stick to vb.net
[14:06] <SyncYourDogmas> Perl and php are similar enough, although python does have some unique features
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[14:07] <aleec1> do arch pi and arch have the same upstream?
[14:10] <SyncYourDogmas> Arch doesnt have upstream at all, only the sources
[14:11] <SyncYourDogmas> Its quite vanilla
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[14:17] <aleec1> doesn't that mean that I practically have the same repo as arch on rpi?
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[14:20] <aleec1> SyncYourDogmas: the guys in #archlinux does not agree with what you just said
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[14:21] <SyncYourDogmas> Not the same repo because arch vs x64
[14:21] <SyncYourDogmas> What did they disagree with?
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[14:22] <SyncYourDogmas> Introduce me there :p
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[14:42] <aleec1> so I need to compile from source to have decent software on rpi?
[14:43] <SyncYourDogmas> Nono
[14:43] <SyncYourDogmas> Plenty of binariex in the repoo
[14:43] <aleec1> I need new versions of a few tools, and they are 2+ years old on rpi.
[14:43] <SyncYourDogmas> Ah
[14:43] <SyncYourDogmas> Maybe then
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[14:49] <felqer> Anyone here successfully obtaining data from a DS18B20 sensor?
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[14:51] <ozzzy_> yep
[14:51] <faLUCE> hello, I use the last version of raspbian. I have an external usb hfsplus formatted drive. It happens very often that it gets mounted read-only or unmounted with errors. I don't understand why and I have to perform fsck each time. Is there a way to make stable this situation?
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[14:52] <ppq> did you install the things?
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[14:53] <heller_> anyone know how to take screenshots from hdmi output?
[14:54] <heller_> i have stuff going to HDMI but the device is far away
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[14:54] <heller_> and i need to see what's on the TV :P
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[14:54] <ozzzy_> use a splitter
[14:54] <heller_> i mean i can only connect to it via internet
[14:55] <felqer> ozzy_: did you have to do anything particular to make it work?
[14:55] <qubitnerd> heller_: fbgrab?
[14:55] <ppq> in case you use X: DISPLAY=:0 scrot file.png
[14:55] <qubitnerd> or scrot yes
[14:57] <heller_> actually i need to know what chromium shows on the screen
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[14:57] <heller_> does it make any difference?
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[15:05] <qubitnerd> heller_: not quite sure what you want exaclty
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[15:19] <heller_> i want to see whats on HDMI outout
[15:19] <heller_> output
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[15:21] <qubitnerd> heller_: then any screenshot program would do
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[15:21] <qubitnerd> scrot as ppq suggested
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[15:24] <Tenkawa> hi all
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[15:24] <heller_> oh goodi
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[16:13] <Berg> I just shot me dog...man i feel better
[16:13] <Berg> i cant get that puppy OS to run
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[16:19] <lala> Berg: You shot your dog?!?!
[16:20] <Berg> yes
[16:20] <Berg> its dead jim
[16:20] <Berg> I have been and always will be your friend Jim.
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[16:21] <Berg> But the dog is dead
[16:21] <Berg> :)
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[16:24] <obskyr> I'm starting to sense some troubles.
[16:24] <obskyr> I purchased a rain sensor, but...
[16:24] <obskyr> This is how it looks. https://dl.pushbulletusercontent.com/JdY1yv4sHJlZBflIc48tEIGtvq1rCJ61/IMG_20150717_162308.jpg
[16:24] <obskyr> And this is the back. https://dl.pushbulletusercontent.com/2zBzcTDGMpxLzY2ueK5BMSoE2T3tQ98E/IMG_20150717_162312.jpg
[16:25] <obskyr> If I put this outside, and it starts to rain...
[16:25] <obskyr> ...Won't I get a short between the + and - pins?
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[16:27] <TheLostAdmin> judging by the design, I suspect it works by detecting changes in the electrical resistance of air (a total guess on my part, please read the manual). If that is true, you are probably supposed to put it inside a vented case that goes outside.
[16:27] <TheLostAdmin> The screw holes would tend to support my theory, too.
[16:28] <TheLostAdmin> Also ... 12 volt and lower electricity doesn't short out through fresh water (in theory). So, as long as you keep it clean it should work while wet. Once it rusts, it's game over.
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[16:30] <obskyr> Wait, it doesn't?
[16:30] <obskyr> Why...?
[16:31] <obskyr> And nah, I'm fairly certain it isn't the resistance of air.
[16:31] <obskyr> It's supposed to have the moisture on it.
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[16:34] <TheLostAdmin> doesn't short out as in there is enough resistance in water that it won't blow most circuits. That's one reason why you can recover a cell phone if it goes for a quick dip and it will work after you dry it out.
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[16:35] <obskyr> Huh.
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[16:35] <obskyr> Coo'.
[16:35] <Tenkawa> hi all
[16:36] <obskyr> I guess I'll just try it without any frills.
[16:36] <obskyr> Hey!
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[16:36] <obskyr> And if it turns out it doesn't work, hey, not much lost.
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[17:01] <blurider> I want to set up a serial connection between my bricked router and my raspberry pi 2. Where can I find a GPIO pin out for the raspberry pi 2 that'll show me which pins to use?
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[17:02] <Bilby> http://www.element14.com/community/docs/DOC-73950/l/raspberry-pi-2-model-b-gpio-40-pin-block-pinout
[17:04] <heller_> obskyr: for soil sensor?
[17:04] <Bilby> @ blurider
[17:04] <blurider> Bilby: Thanks a lot.
[17:04] <heller_> obskyr: i've heard they oxidize
[17:04] <obskyr> heller_: Nah, I want to see whether it's raining.
[17:04] <heller_> stick your hand out of the window
[17:04] <obskyr> It may very well oxidize, which would be sad - but hey, at least it'll work a while.
[17:04] <heller_> nah, just kidding :)
[17:04] <obskyr> heller_: oh ha ha, you smartbutt :D
[17:04] <heller_> i'd do it too
[17:05] <heller_> btw nicely cut nails
[17:05] <heller_> :D
[17:05] <obskyr> Switching out a single rain sensor probably isn't hard, so eh.
[17:05] <heller_> depends
[17:05] <obskyr> heller_: In case of not sarcasm, thanks! In case of sarcasm, :I.
[17:05] <heller_> if its located 100m above the ground at some tower
[17:06] <obskyr> Well, no.
[17:06] <heller_> i dont know what the case is. its too awkward to say anyway :D
[17:06] <obskyr> It's located outside my window.
[17:06] <heller_> then you're safe!
[17:06] <obskyr> B)
[17:06] <heller_> can you open your window?
[17:06] <heller_> is it hard to open?
[17:06] <obskyr> I can smash it.
[17:06] <heller_> is it high?
[17:06] <obskyr> Hahah, it is actually kinda hard to open.
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[17:06] <heller_> haha
[17:06] <obskyr> okay, we really don't need to analyze whether or not this part will be ahrd to swtch out.
[17:07] <heller_> :D
[17:07] <heller_> if the window is at high altitude, and you happen to be high at the same time. then you want to swap the sensor but you fall from the high window
[17:07] <heller_> its still fun, but you broke your legs and cant reach it anymore
[17:07] <heller_> so how will you change it then?
[17:08] <The_Borg> Resistance is Futile
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[17:11] <obskyr> Ah, yes, trying to switch out components at a high altitude while being colloquially high yourself.
[17:11] <obskyr> A conundrum I've run into many a time myself.
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[17:19] <heller_> oh man. "old" rpi b is sloooow
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[17:20] <obskyr> check it, yo. https://twitter.com/obskyr/status/622062731785564160
[17:20] <The_Borg> You teknological and Biotropology will be absorbed and you will become a part of the collective.
[17:21] <The_Borg> Im just installing the rpi 2 with overclock
[17:21] <The_Borg> its better then my desktop
[17:21] <The_Borg> hehehe
[17:22] <The_Borg> four cores and 7 gigs ago our coders came to this land.
[17:22] <The_Borg> :)
[17:23] <obskyr> You've gotta have a real slow desktop then, I assume?
[17:24] <The_Borg> nar its ok im teasing
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[17:24] <obskyr> you just playin
[17:24] <The_Borg> although im impressed with this rpi 2
[17:24] <The_Borg> it runs youtube just fine and no adobe
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[17:27] <heller_> damn this screenshot thing
[17:27] <heller_> scrot complains about no X display open
[17:27] <heller_> if there is stuff at the HDMI, there is no X?
[17:28] <heller_> ppq: how do i use scrot?
[17:29] <The_Borg> html5 is yummy
[17:30] <obskyr> heller_: Are you in the X-windows mode?
[17:30] <obskyr> Or just TTY?
[17:30] <heller_> think not
[17:30] <heller_> i've got some sort of LXDE running though
[17:30] <heller_> it basically has bare minimum to run chromium
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[17:32] <heller_> i do have /usr/bin/X running, is that it?
[17:32] <heller_> or /usr/bin/lxsession?
[17:32] <blurider> I have a serial connection from my RPi2 and my bricked router. Where's the serial port in /dev?
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[17:33] <heller_> blurider: /dev/tty or dev/ACM
[17:33] <heller_> perhaps?
[17:35] <blurider> heller_: There's no /dev/ACM, there's a /dev/tty
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[18:03] <blurider> I've connected the GPIO pins to my router's UART pins. I boot up the Pi and I point screen at /dev/ttyAMA0. I'm not seeing anything though. In addition, everytime i move some pins, the Pi resets.
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[18:16] <heller_> are the both 3v3?
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[18:18] <Bilby> heller_, sorry?
[18:20] <heller_> forgiven
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[20:18] <nomis> does anyone have a code example for using the camera image as a texture in combination with glsl shaders?
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[21:08] <heller_> so anyone here perhaps guide me with parsing xml with python?
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[21:10] <breakingmatter> heller_: Does it /have/ to be XML? No option for JSON?
[21:10] <heller_> nope
[21:10] <heller_> its not my api
[21:11] <breakingmatter> 2.x or 3.x?
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[21:13] <breakingmatter> Python 2.x ==> http://www.diveintopython.net/xml_processing/
[21:13] <breakingmatter> Python 3.x ==> http://www.diveintopython3.net/xml.html
[21:13] <heller_> well 2
[21:13] <breakingmatter> I don't have a ton of experience with XML parsing. Mainly because I do whatever is necessary to /not/ use XML. haha.
[21:15] <heller_> http://pastebin.com/tQjmn4q4 this is the url to parse
[21:16] <heller_> i need to get only wlm2 -> time and value
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[21:19] <breakingmatter> Yeah, I just don't have enough experience with XML + python. You may want to post to #python
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[21:20] <heller_> oh right
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[21:34] <fydel> hi
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[21:35] <fydel> how do i start something like "sudo screen -S lcd python lcd.py" via rc.local?
[21:36] <heller_> just like that?
[21:36] <fydel> it is not working :(
[21:36] <heller_> any reasons?
[21:36] <fydel> found none
[21:37] <heller_> one thing might be is path's
[21:37] <fydel> i already tried with absolute paths
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[21:37] <heller_> fydel: why not use crontab?
[21:38] <heller_> works for me atleast
[21:38] <fydel> i will give it a try
[21:38] <heller_> @reboot is your friend
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[21:42] <fydel> yep. testing now. :)
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[21:50] <fydel> heller_, yep. it is working. ty :))
[21:50] <heller_> fydel: np :)
[21:50] <heller_> i think @reboot is awesome
[21:50] <fydel> TIL about @reboot
[21:50] <Tach[Away]> @reboot? what is that
[21:51] <fydel> for starting cron jobs
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[21:54] <rwb> Careful, it might not work after shutdown, then restart... only on reboot...
[21:56] <fydel> will watch out for :))
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[22:04] <heller_> @reboot is a way to run cron jobs at startup
[22:05] <heller_> it works on boot too
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[22:18] <rwb> You're right, it should be fine on any kind of booting. I read contrary to that, but I think the article was wrong...
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[22:31] <HanSooloo> has anyone been able to get rtl8192 based WiFi to work in rescueshell environment?
[22:33] <HanSooloo> I have compiled the necessary 80211 and wireless extensions into the kernel.
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[22:33] <HanSooloo> however, when I do 'iwconfig wlan0'
[22:34] <HanSooloo> it shows 'wlan0 No wireless extensions'
[22:34] <HanSooloo> I can see that the 8192cu kernel module loaded when I do 'lsmod'
[22:34] <HanSooloo> even the MAC address shows in 'ifconfig -a'
[22:34] <HanSooloo> kind of puzzling :(
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[22:46] <nomis> can anybody tell me if the raspberry camera mmal interface can work together with the egl version 2?
[22:47] <nomis> I have a stripped down version of RaspiStill and if I increase the egl version from 1 to 2 it stops working.
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[22:57] <tjcarter> Are not EGL versions roughly tied to OpenGL ES versions?
[22:57] <tjcarter> in other words, EGL v1.x more or less corresponds to OpenGL ES 1.x?
[22:58] <tjcarter> If my memory is correct on that point, there's yer problem :)
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[22:58] <nomis> hm.
[22:58] <nomis> so I need to link different gl libraries?
[22:59] <tjcarter> More complicated than that.
[22:59] <tjcarter> You'd need to port the code from OpenGL ES v1 to v2 (the API is different)
[22:59] <nomis> all the example code I find for using the camera seems to use v1, but for my glsl shaders I need v2.
[22:59] * nomis is confused.
[23:00] <tjcarter> v2 code uses shaders and whatnot ("the programmable pipeline") exclusively. v1 uses the fixed pipeline.
[23:00] <nomis> tjcarter: are you aware of any pi-camera code that uses v2?
[23:01] <tjcarter> I'm not, but I could possibly find a guide for how to port gles v1 code to gles v2.
[23:02] <tjcarter> I'm not surprised stuff for the Pi camera might use v1 because it's easy to understand, but at this point it's really much better to start teaching people about working with shaders, even if you just hand them a shader and don't play with it until you need to.
[23:02] <nomis> tjcarter: that would be helpful.
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[23:03] <nomis> I found this, which is nicely concise: https://github.com/SanderVocke/picamgpu_minimal
[23:04] <nomis> (it needs some thinking when using it, but it seems to at least grab stuff. I just don't see it.
[23:05] <tjcarter> there are at least three parts, here's a part 1: http://www.jeffwofford.com/?p=635
[23:06] <tjcarter> That code appears to be GLES v2 based
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[23:08] <nomis> I have the impression that I am just missing a tiny bit.
[23:08] <tjcarter> Of course the major thing is if you can get pixel data off the Pi camera in a known format, uploading it to GLES as a texture is done just like any other texture uploading.
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[23:08] <nomis> I have rendering a texture to the screen in place, I have - apparently - grabbing images from the camera to a texture. Not 100% sure about that. But using *this* texture doesn't yield a camera image.
[23:09] <nomis> tjcarter: well. I can probably do it but then I don't have the zerocopy fastpath.
[23:10] <tjcarter> Get it to work using the slowpath first then :)
[23:12] <tjcarter> you won't want to be streaming video off the Pi camera into GLES that way, but once you know you're handling the texture right, you can start looking to use the extensions that will hand it to the GPU without moving it.
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[23:14] <tjcarter> In some ways it'd be good if Raspbian tracked Debian testing (if perhaps a little beind it) since you'd have the option of working with SDL 2.0
[23:14] <tjcarter> All of the stuff I've seen for the Pi uses SDL 1.2
[23:15] <tjcarter> Granted I think Jessie has 2.0.3 and won't get the 2.0.4 bugfix that is really necessary, but that's what backport repositories are for.
[23:18] <tjcarter> But if Raspbian tracked Debian testing with some delays, we'd probably all be using Jessie today, with the kinks worked out.
[23:18] * tjcarter shrugs
[23:18] <tjcarter> it'll happen in time
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[23:21] <nomis> well, I don't care much about SDL at the moment.
[23:22] <tjcarter> Ah, but SDL generally can take care of texture uploads for you and if someone hasn't written a SDL library to pull camera images into surfaces, I'd be shocked.
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[23:24] <tjcarter> I _do_ like SDL as an EGL/glX/wgl/cgl/agl/whatever abstraction.
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[23:27] <soapdish> isnt there a way to rig up the pi to supply more power to the usb ports
[23:28] <nomis> soapdish: the power supply has been redone for the B+/A+/2B versions
[23:28] <SyncYourDogmas> Whats the difference? More amps?
[23:29] <nomis> yeah, better design of the power regulation --> more amps for the ports.
[23:29] <SyncYourDogmas> Excellent. My pi b 2 arrived earlier
[23:29] <soapdish> o
[23:30] <soapdish> maybe i should try a 2amp charger then
[23:30] <soapdish> my b+ cant power a 2.5" hdd
[23:30] <JK-47> why are people opposed to powered usb hubs..
[23:30] <nomis> JK-47: mess of cables.
[23:30] <SyncYourDogmas> I just usb hubs for stuff
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[23:31] <SyncYourDogmas> Yeah. I can run a 12 and a 9 dBi atennas no problem
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[23:34] <heller_> so guys
[23:34] <heller_> i want to control one GPIO pin with a web page
[23:35] <heller_> and i want a button to go red or green when pressed
[23:35] <heller_> i have the buttons and stuff. i just need to know how to change the button from black to green
[23:35] <JK-47> http://www.instructables.com/id/Simple-and-intuitive-web-interface-for-your-Raspbe/
[23:35] <heller_> i've actually checked that
[23:35] <heller_> but
[23:36] <heller_> if i install webiopi
[23:36] <heller_> do i need to run some daemons or something?
[23:36] <heller_> or can i just install it and edit examples for my needs+
[23:36] <soapdish> that one powered usb hub addon board looks awesome
[23:37] <soapdish> http://www.uugear.com/product/high-speed-7-port-usb-hub-for-raspberry-pi/
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[23:38] <ritual> oh damn
[23:38] <ritual> that's exactly what I need.
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[23:39] <ritual> soapdish: too bad it's only 2.0
[23:40] <soapdish> but the pi is 2.0 only anyway
[23:40] <ritual> very true
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[23:40] <soapdish> could they even make some sort of board that has usb 3.0 ports that allows 3.0 speeds between devices
[23:40] <soapdish> is that even possible
[23:41] <soapdish> thing would basically just be another arm board
[23:41] <ritual> good point
[23:43] <soapdish> ever noticed theres allwinner soc's that have gbit lan, usb 3.0, and sata II
[23:43] <soapdish> can basically get a pogoplug series 4 and run arch linux on it
[23:44] <soapdish> http://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv5/pogoplug-series-4
[23:44] <soapdish> prior to the raspberry pi, i was using a pogoplug
[23:45] <soapdish> oh thats marvell not allwinner
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[23:48] <heller_> oh what the heck
[23:48] <heller_> im so lost with pin numbers again :D
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[23:50] <heller_> im using python and GPIO.BCM
[23:50] <heller_> pints 16,20 and 21. they are three most bottom ones on right side
[23:51] <heller_> trying same with wiringpi. no luck here.
[23:51] <heller_> no errors.
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