#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-07-18

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[0:03] <SyncYourDogmas> Is it possible to get the current power usage in bash?
[0:03] <heller_> no
[0:03] <heller_> or well, it is with external stuff
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[0:04] <heller_> http://pastebin.com/6X443cYf why is it not doing anything?
[0:04] <kenrestivo> trying to get initramfs to work... no luck... i have my config.txt with "initramfs initrd.img-4.0.7-v7+ followkernel" no initramfs is being loaded
[0:04] <SyncYourDogmas> I had a look in /proc but nothing. Ive used acpi to get temperature in the past..
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[0:22] <hypfer> i'm looking for a cheap arm board with ethernet and usb that runs linux
[0:22] <hypfer> any ideas? cheaper than the pi please
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[0:29] <tjcarter> heh, I oopsed the Pi!
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[0:31] <tjcarter> If I'm reading this right, gvfsd-metadata is involved. :)
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[0:59] <CoJaBo> hypfer: ha, if you find one let me kno
[0:59] <CoJaBo> w
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[1:03] * CoJaBo currently trying to see if I can get a pi to drive a motor set from an old toy
[1:03] <heller_> so if i have a pin as output, lets say just driving a led
[1:04] * CoJaBo because I don't feel like waiting another 3 weeks for a proper controller to ship from amazong lol
[1:04] <heller_> can i take the same output to input. so i coud read if its really on
[1:04] <CoJaBo> hypfer: It would turn off if you switched it to an input, but the API should let you read the currently set value..
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[1:11] <nomis> tjcarter: got it!
[1:11] <nomis> tjcarter: the key error was, that for the OES images I need a different uniform type for the texture as well as requiring a specific extension.
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[1:13] <kenrestivo> hypfer: there are kickstarter vaporwares i've seen, but so far the cheapest arm board out there appears to be the pi
[1:15] <kenrestivo> i am so ready to defenestrate this damn pi bootloader. garbaaaaaage
[1:16] <Lartza> There's ODROID-C1 and some others but I think they are priced the same than a Pi
[1:17] <kenrestivo> jeez, they raised US$2m. yowza. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598272670/chip-the-worlds-first-9-computer
[1:17] <nomis> note that this most likely is no longer 9$ after the first run.
[1:19] <kenrestivo> meh, everybody plays funny games with pricing
[1:20] <kenrestivo> what irritates me, though, is people playing funny games with closed-source software :-(
[1:20] <kenrestivo> that has bugs i can't fix or even effectively debug
[1:21] <nomis> kenrestivo: yeah, that is annoying.
[1:21] <exonormal> windows?
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[1:23] <kenrestivo> exonormal: nomis: raspberry pi bootloader :-P
[1:23] <exonormal> ahh
[1:23] <nomis> the raspberry is extra speciallly funky there as well.
[1:23] <exonormal> raspbian?
[1:23] <kenrestivo> debia
[1:23] <kenrestivo> debian jessie
[1:23] <exonormal> ok
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[1:24] <exonormal> yeh that's a tricky one
[1:24] <nomis> (but mostly due to the choice of the processor)
[1:24] <kenrestivo> it's not a processor, it's demo silicon for a graphics chip :-P
[1:24] <nomis> yeah :)
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[1:25] <kenrestivo> anyway, all i can do is file a bug report and hope somebody who has the source code cares to duplicate/fix it.
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[1:25] <exonormal> they will, eventually.... maybe by xmas
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[1:29] <exonormal> first they have to duplicate what you are getting then debug it and find solution to the problem.....
[1:29] <exonormal> so it will take a while...
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[2:14] <tjcarter> regarding the Pi being the cheapest ARM board, aren't there coming out some Arduino Cortex-M0 boards?
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[2:27] <ShadowJK> Unobtanium boards don't count
[2:27] <ShadowJK> but yes, there are cheaper boards
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[2:36] <kingarmadillo> Does Ubuntu Mate support GPIO for raspberrypi 2?
[2:36] <Lartza> kingarmadillo, What do you mean?
[2:36] <kingarmadillo> can i write some python code and access the GPIOs with raspberrypi 2 and ubuntu mate installed
[2:37] <Lartza> Yes
[2:37] <kingarmadillo> or should i stick wtih raspbian
[2:37] <pksato> kingarmadillo: if you install kernel modules or/and user libs to access gpio, yes.
[2:38] <kingarmadillo> is there a name for the libs? or kernel modules?
[2:38] <kingarmadillo> I tried googling but i must not be using the right words
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[2:40] <Lartza> kingarmadillo, Kernel modules should be there and you just need to install python3 and the gpio library for python
[2:40] <Lartza> RPi.GPIO I think, you can install it with pip
[2:40] <kingarmadillo> Lartza: ok thanks
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[2:45] <kingarmadillo> Anyone have a working link for Ubuntu Mate?
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[2:46] <Lartza> https://ubuntu-mate.org/raspberry-pi/ ?
[2:46] <Lartza> ohh the sf thingy
[2:46] <Lartza> sorry
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[2:46] <kingarmadillo> yea
[2:46] <kingarmadillo> :\
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[2:52] <Lartza> kingarmadillo, There seems to be a torrent of it on kat, there's no md5sum anywhere though :/
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[3:03] <ali1234> what's this?
[3:03] <ali1234> no ubuntu mate download because sf is down?
[3:03] <Lartza> Yes
[3:04] <ali1234> i have a copy of it i can mirror
[3:04] <ali1234> or i could just tell you the md5sum
[3:04] <ali1234> since it would take me forever to upload
[3:04] <Lartza> kingarmadillo, ^
[3:04] <tawr> ali1234: md5 would be great
[3:04] <Lartza> If you want to download the torrent and verify
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[3:08] <kingarmadillo> i need to find the torrent link
[3:08] <kingarmadillo> yes the md5sum would be awesome
[3:08] <ali1234> 6afaf253b0f77db7894cef065940a459 ubuntu-mate-15.04-desktop-armhf-raspberry-pi-2.img
[3:09] <ali1234> that's the raw image, apparently i didnt keep the zip file
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[3:09] <Lartza> I just started downloading the torrent, I can give a download link after I finish if it matches
[3:10] <ali1234> i just asked the devs to put the md5sum on the download page
[3:10] <ali1234> he's probably sleeping at the moment though
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[3:12] <Lartza> Damn lousy seeders... :P
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[3:15] <ali1234> maybe it could be got directly from a mirror... if you can figure out the mirror URLs
[3:15] <Lartza> Got some nice seederfrs now, done soon and I'll check the md5sum then
[3:16] <Lartza> And yes that would be possible
[3:16] <ali1234> http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/download.sourceforge.net/pub/sourceforge/u/ub/ubuntu-mate/15.04/armhf/ubuntu-mate-15.04-desktop-armhf-raspberry-pi-2.img.bz2
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[3:21] <Lartza> ea74db696bb50907a12ffbc2f2eeb4b5 ubuntu-mate-15.04-desktop-armhf-raspberry-pi-2.img.bz2
[3:21] <Lartza> from that link
[3:22] <kingarmadillo> fun..
[3:22] <Lartza> ?
[3:22] <Lartza> :D
[3:22] <kingarmadillo> ill unzip and see
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[3:25] <kingarmadillo> ali1234: Lartza: thanks
[3:25] <Lartza> I hope people would just leave SF
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[3:29] <tawr> ali1234, Lartza. i'm getting the image from the mirror at 2.8MB/s or so
[3:30] <kingarmadillo> now it speeds up
[3:30] <tawr> doh, just slowed down. hovering around ~800kb with bursts to 1.5mb
[3:30] <kingarmadillo> it went from 9minutes to 1 minute
[3:30] <Lartza> My dedi got it fine at 11 MB/s
[3:31] <tjcarter> why would people leave SF? Aside from the fact that it is absolutely mediocre ;)
[3:31] <Lartza> It's just a joke nowadays
[3:31] <Lartza> The sponsor bundled installers and all
[3:31] <tjcarter> sponsor-bundled installers?
[3:31] <Lartza> Yeah?
[3:31] <Lartza> They do the thing that download.com does
[3:32] <Lartza> You download an installer that downloads the actual installer
[3:32] <Lartza> And it has ads on the launcher
[3:32] <tjcarter> Oh that's shit.
[3:32] <tjcarter> please pardon my outburst, chanops :)
[3:32] <tjcarter> I didn't know they were doing that.
[3:32] <Lartza> And theres also some stuff about SF admins doing that for abandoned projects, just taking over the downloads to bundle ads to them
[3:33] <tjcarter> not cool.
[3:33] <Lartza> Not sure if it applies to all projects, but at least FileZilla installer has that. ?nowrap=1 disables it but it's not default
[3:33] <tjcarter> I think macports still uses SF for some things.
[3:33] <Lartza> Also it does only apply to windows installers, but still it gives a bad image of them overall
[3:34] <tjcarter> yeah, it's not cool.
[3:36] <[Saint]> That's what you get for hosting your project of SourceForge, lol.
[3:36] <tawr> they used to be good
[3:37] <tawr> but this new crap is way not-cool.
[3:37] <[Saint]> Their ToC always stated that they reserved the right to monetize any and all projhects hosted thereon.
[3:37] <[Saint]> Not sure why people found it surprising.
[3:37] <[Saint]> It's not new. They just finally started doing it.
[3:38] <[Saint]> When they were actually relevant, they had enough traffic to sustain them.
[3:38] <[Saint]> Now they're far from relevant, and need to survive via this kind of buggery.
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[3:40] <tjcarter> github will too join the dark side one day.
[3:40] <tjcarter> [Saint]: their definition of monetize has changed.
[3:41] <[Saint]> errr...no it hasn't.
[3:41] <tjcarter> They didn't used to advertize in the installer for your code.
[3:42] <tjcarter> Certain levels of making money off your stuff are acceptable. Others aren't. They've crossed that line.
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[3:47] <[Saint]> That's for authors to decide.
[3:47] <[Saint]> If they don't want to read ToCs, and/or completely abandon a project...it's their fault.
[3:48] <tawr> Pretty sure the TOC's and EULA's changed
[3:49] <tjcarter> and the ownership has changed at least twice that I know of.
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[3:49] <tjcarter> Do people still use Slashdot and post comments boasting about having user numbers under 1,000,000?
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[3:50] <[Saint]> Do people still use /. ...period?
[3:50] <tjcarter> that was the first part of my question.
[3:50] <tjcarter> I haven't been there in > 10 years.
[3:51] <tjcarter> I was around in the daze before there were user numbers. :)
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[3:51] <tjcarter> But SF is now owned by Dice, which probably means they own /. too.
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[3:57] <nomis> the "easily declined offers" from the sourceforge-installer started out as a program where maintainers had to opt in. When we left sf with the gimp-win project (due to misleading green huge "download" buttons) they at some point however decided, that gimp-win (with tons of link to the sf presence) was "abandoned" and decided to put a mirror-thingy there, where they then hosted the ad-enabled installers
[3:57] <nomis> for gimp win (without our consent).
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[3:58] <lambdumb> i had to change my raspberry pi's time for a demonstration, can i change it back to normal?
[3:59] <Lartza> lambdumb, If you didn't change your timezone just fetch the time from ntp
[3:59] <lambdumb> how should I do that?
[3:59] <Lartza> Otherwise change the timezone back and then ntp
[3:59] <Lartza> What distro?
[4:00] <lambdumb> raspbian, stripped down
[4:01] <Lartza> Actually, how did you change the time?
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[4:01] <Lartza> ntp should just kick in automatically and restore your change
[4:01] <Lartza> If it's installed
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[4:02] <lambdumb> Lartza, i used date
[4:02] <lambdumb> ntp is installed
[4:02] <lambdumb> oh it's fine now
[4:02] <Lartza> Yeah :)
[4:02] <lambdumb> just had to restart the ntp service
[4:03] <Lartza> Yeah it might require that on large jumps
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[4:24] <kingarmadillo> I'm having issues with the ubuntu mate img
[4:24] <kingarmadillo> I ran the command they suggested to put the image on the SD card
[4:24] <kingarmadillo> i umount, put it in the pi, power it on and nothing happens
[4:25] <Lartza> kingarmadillo, bunzip2 and ddrescue?
[4:25] <Lartza> And correct /dev/sdX ?
[4:25] <Lartza> probably sdb
[4:26] <kingarmadillo> sudo ddrescue -d -D --force ubuntu-mate-15.04-desktop-armhf-raspberry-pi-2.img /dev/mmcblk0p1
[4:26] <Lartza> are you doing this from another pi?
[4:26] <kingarmadillo> ubuntu
[4:26] <Lartza> desktop?
[4:26] <kingarmadillo> yea
[4:26] <Lartza> Then your card reader won't be mmcblk*
[4:26] <Lartza> it will probably be sdb
[4:26] <Lartza> use "lsblk" to list devices
[4:26] <kingarmadillo> i ran df -h
[4:26] <kingarmadillo> ok
[4:27] <kingarmadillo> should i format the sd?
[4:27] <Lartza> ddrescue kind of does that, so no
[4:27] <kingarmadillo> mmcblk0 179:0 0 7.4G 0 disk
[4:27] <kingarmadillo> └─mmcblk0p1 179:1 0 7.4G 0 part
[4:28] <Lartza> This is a desktop PC?
[4:28] <kingarmadillo> yea
[4:28] <kingarmadillo> oh laptop
[4:28] <Lartza> Is the sdcard reader some builtin?
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[4:28] <kingarmadillo> yes
[4:28] <kingarmadillo> sorry that wasn't clear
[4:28] <Lartza> Oh you need to drop p1
[4:28] <Lartza> just /dev/mmcblk0
[4:29] <kingarmadillo> sudo ddrescue -d -D --force ubuntu-mate-15.04-desktop-armhf-raspberry-pi-2.img /dev/mmcblk0
[4:29] <kingarmadillo> ok ill try it
[4:29] <Lartza> yes
[4:29] <kingarmadillo> do i need to sync before umount?
[4:31] <Lartza> it won't hurt
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[4:40] <kingarmadillo> Lartza: worked, thanks gaain
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[5:29] <tjcarter> fun! I haven't stranded a 40-wire ribbon cable in 10 years
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[5:30] <tjcarter> stranded for more comfortable use around a T-cobbler.
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[5:47] <[Saint]> I never really saw the point of the various cobbler breakout boards.
[5:48] <[Saint]> What purpose does breaking out GPIO 90 degree rotationally and slightly to the side a bit serve you tjcarter?
[5:49] <[Saint]> The only immediately obvious benefit is nicely labeled pins.
[5:50] <[Saint]> Oooohhh...aha. I see.
[5:51] <[Saint]> It /could/ be used the way I was thinking, but probably isn't. I see - hmmm, that could be mildly useful.
[5:52] <tawr> Damn, that looks like fun. Having a debate, lose, then moving on, all without other people
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[6:14] <[Saint]> Gah! Why? Who does that?!? :-S
[6:15] <[Saint]> Someone rips a BD in 240p (who does that to begin with?), and then transcodes that to 480, 720 and 1080p
[6:16] <[Saint]> Re-rip the actual BD multiple times in multiple resolutions? Ain't nobody gots time fo dat...
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[8:51] <malleYay> hey guys, i started compiling qt5 on my pi but it aborted after some hours due to to little memory. now i increased my swapfile and want to start compiling again, can i just start with 'make' again or do i have to take care of the failed attempt?
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[8:56] <Broly> should be ablet o continue with make
[9:00] <malleYay> does it start from where it aborted?
[9:01] <Broly> from the point where the last object file was created, yes
[9:02] <malleYay> ok, thank you
[9:02] <Broly> no problem
[9:02] <Broly> safe travels, friend
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[9:37] <TeknoJuce> Trying to connect a raspberry pi to an arduino with i2c every time I attach the ground rail to the pie T-cobbler ground it turns the power off on it like its shorting out, and doesnt turn back on until removed? Have a level shifter in between the two sda goes to sda, sdl goes to sdl, hv goes the arduino 5v, lv goes to the raspberry pi 3.3v, grounded on both sides, the pi is plugged into the wall, the arduino is plugged into usb of a
[9:37] <TeknoJuce> laptop from programming.
[9:38] <TeknoJuce> this is how I have it connected but I have the adafruit lvl shifter so I changed the leads to the proper spots https://cdn.sparkfun.com/assets/b/5/9/f/c/5266e578757b7fe84c8b456f.png
[9:38] <TeknoJuce> I put the pi where those two sensors show
[9:40] <TeknoJuce> here's a picture of the actual setup https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7_sv8oBzuGNUmV0X3NhSU5LazQ/view?usp=sharing
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[9:40] <TeknoJuce> I also tried without the level shifter and it did the same thing as people were saying it wasnt required
[9:40] <TeknoJuce> the pi is the host i2c
[9:41] <TeknoJuce> the arduino is the slave.
[9:41] <TeknoJuce> and everyone here is asleep. <3
[9:42] <Lartza> I just don't know enough electronics :P
[9:42] <SyncYourDogmas> Im not but electronics are beyond me
[9:42] <TeknoJuce> haha np
[9:43] <SyncYourDogmas> Wait though, eventually someone will answer
[9:43] <Lartza> Is the 3V3 in the arduino power input?
[9:43] <Lartza> *3.3V
[9:43] <TeknoJuce> it was then I changed it to the 3.3v from the pi to see if that would make any difference
[9:44] <TeknoJuce> i think they did that in the sparkfun photo because those sensors they are using have no power like the pi
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[9:44] <The_Borg> hmm
[9:44] <TeknoJuce> im not use those sensors was just using it as a ref to go from the pi to the arduino
[9:45] <TeknoJuce> via i2c
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[9:45] <TeknoJuce> just for good measure
[9:45] <TeknoJuce> http://www.dominicdube.com/wp-content/uploads/Arduino-uno-Pinout.png
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[9:46] <TeknoJuce> using the sda/sdl by the aref
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[9:47] <Lartza> Is that green wire connected to uno 5V?
[9:47] <TeknoJuce> https://www.adafruit.com/products/1754
[9:47] <TeknoJuce> yes it looks like 3.3 but just a bad angle
[9:47] <Lartza> Why is that there
[9:47] <TeknoJuce> its in the 5v
[9:48] <TeknoJuce> https://www.adafruit.com/products/757
[9:49] <TeknoJuce> Lartza, sorry the red wire is 5v the green is gnd
[9:49] <TeknoJuce> as said bad angle of photo
[9:50] <Lartza> sda and acl, ground, 3V3 from pi to 5V uno and everything should work just fine
[9:50] <Lartza> But not sure why it's not
[9:50] <Lartza> *scl
[9:51] <TeknoJuce> i tried without the lvl shifter and it does the same thing :/
[9:52] <Lartza> I mean through the shifter
[9:52] <Lartza> Those connections
[9:52] <TeknoJuce> also tried a4/a5 on the arduino which is also sda/scl
[9:56] <TeknoJuce> only thing I can think of is that it doesnt like being driving from usb to the arduino and wallwart to the pi but I think I also tried to drive the arduino from its vin pin to 5v on the pi t-cobbler
[9:57] <Lartza> USB is not an option? :P
[9:57] <Lartza> I mean USB rs232 Arduino > Pi
[9:57] <The_Borg> damn SF is down
[9:57] <Lartza> The_Borg, Welcome to yesterday
[9:58] <TeknoJuce> wanted to use i2c
[9:58] <Lartza> The_Borg, What do you need?
[9:58] <The_Borg> i been wondering why my setup.py aint working its asking to dowbload from SF
[9:58] <TeknoJuce> does the pi have a serial port?
[9:59] <The_Borg> Atlas (http://math-atlas.sourceforge.net/) libraries not found.
[9:59] <The_Borg> '
[9:59] <The_Borg> ill just have to wait
[9:59] <The_Borg> i know it was down yesterday i thought it be fixeed by now
[10:00] <Lartza> The_Borg, SF works for me :D
[10:00] <The_Borg> silly me pulling hair out over something thats not available
[10:00] <The_Borg> The sourceforge.net website is temporarily in static offline mode.
[10:00] <The_Borg> Only a very limited set of project pages are available until the main website returns to service.
[10:00] <The_Borg> not for me
[10:00] <Lartza> http://sourceforge.net/projects/math-atlas/files/Stable/3.10.2/
[10:01] <The_Borg> how did you do that your magic
[10:01] <Lartza> The front page works for me too so, dunno
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[10:02] <The_Borg> odd
[10:02] <Lartza> TeknoJuce, Tx and Rx on GPIO? :D
[10:02] <The_Borg> im in australia we have limited contact with the world its a alien place
[10:02] <Lartza> :)
[10:03] <TeknoJuce> apparently the raspi has a hardware bug in i2c so maybe this is futile anyways
[10:03] <TeknoJuce> would still like to see it working
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[10:04] <TeknoJuce> if anyone in the future tense reads this and knows what I am doing wrong let me know, thanks.
[10:05] <Lartza> It's still pretty early so there's probably some wise people still sleeping
[10:05] <The_Borg> its your shirt ....it clashes with the wiring..
[10:05] <TeknoJuce> my shirt says best dad ever on it, I think the pi likes it.
[10:09] <TeknoJuce> this has nothing to do with the issue above but does this mean the hardware bug was fixed with a work around some how https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/254
[10:10] <The_Borg> there is something realy wrong here the file i got has errors from SF
[10:10] <TeknoJuce> it didnt want to get assimilated
[10:12] <TeknoJuce> I just tried to connect both the pi and arduino to usb and does the same thing seems like it shorts out the pi
[10:12] <TeknoJuce> I then noticed if I even touch the usb to the rim of the usb plug it shorts it out
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[10:13] <The_Borg> seperate the power supplies
[10:15] <The_Borg> the metal around the usb port is ground
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[10:15] <The_Borg> check you plug is not charged?
[10:16] <The_Borg> you might be cross wired with that spaghette
[10:16] <The_Borg> :)
[10:16] <The_Borg> sorry i never realy looked at the wires im just teasing
[10:17] <The_Borg> resistance is futile
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[10:26] <The_Borg> ok seems i will have to wait for SF to get back up and running i have a list of programs wanted depencancy
[10:27] <Lartza> The_Borg, https://twitter.com/sfnet_ops :/
[10:27] <The_Borg> i dont use twitter
[10:27] <Lartza> Not sure how they handled the temporary static stuff, maybe you have some DNS stuff cached
[10:27] <The_Borg> i refuse to use social media
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[10:28] <The_Borg> it will be ok i can wait
[10:28] <Lartza> I just linked to twitter due to
[10:28] <Lartza> "#SourceForge directory, download and project summary pages are back online; dev services (SCM, uploads, ML's, project web) pending restoral"
[10:28] <Lartza> six hours ago
[10:29] <The_Borg> might be they hate australia
[10:29] <The_Borg> im used to it
[10:30] <The_Borg> im in the middle of trying to fingerprint a word and match it for voice recognition toys
[10:30] <The_Borg> but every time i start i get stopped its the will of the gods
[10:30] <Lartza> I feel you, I hate that even Finland is kind of far away so shipping is expensive, but Australia is in it's own league...
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[10:31] <Lartza> And at least our internet connection is pretty solid
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[10:40] <PaulVern> Has anyone here managed to get boot2gecko running on a raspberry pi 2?
[10:40] <GentileBen> Be the first, PaulVern.
[10:40] <PaulVern> GentileBen: I'm willing to give it a good 2 hours, yeah
[10:40] <The_Borg> well my net often drops out but with todays software i dont loose a full download and have to start over it just reconnects and gets it
[10:41] <PaulVern> I have it running on my old original B model
[10:41] <Lartza> Why B2G?
[10:42] <Lartza> oh Foxberry runs under Raspbian
[10:42] <PaulVern> Lartza: I'm going to build a tablet with the rPI 2
[10:44] <Lartza> I just meant that there's a "better" way now but it's not native yet so hmm...
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[12:44] <tjcarter> hi all, I'm having a bit of trouble with bluetooth. I followed the instructions I found at http://elinux.org/RPi_Bluetooth_keyboard_setup and it worked for keyboard and mouse until the part where it says that stuff will just work after reboot. Didn't.
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[12:47] <tjcarter> I do have a bluetooth icon in my system tray after reboot
[12:47] <tjcarter> But I can't get it to do anything when I select something from one of its menu choices
[12:48] <tjcarter> Nor does Bluetooth Manager run from LXDE settings
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[13:04] <tjcarter> okay, I got them to work by putting the devices back into discoverable mode and connecting to them again. But the devices are trusted according to bluetooth-test-device
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[13:44] <tjcarter> well gnome-bluetooth is a bust
[13:44] <tjcarter> and blueman-* traps
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[13:45] <tjcarter> I'm actually USING the bluetooth devices right now so this CAN work, but it doesn't work at boot
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[13:46] <joedu12> Hi :)
[13:46] <tjcarter> NEWS.Debian.gz refers to udev rulesin a file that isn't included in the package
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[13:47] <tjcarter> Basically I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that bluetooth in raspbian is a joke.
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[13:49] <tjcarter> segfaults here, python traps there, dbus errors over there... The CLI tools work, but aren't persistent, and the documentation I've found says nothing about needing to do anything to get it to be persistent. In fact quite the opposite.
[13:50] <shaffl> Hi, is there anyone who can tell me why I get "/bin/echo: not found" when running this (http://pastebin.com/jPLa45sq) script? The command "which echo" returns nothing, but I noticed "which echo2" returns "/bin/echo2". What's the problem? I used "export PATH" too..
[13:50] <tjcarter> And my ability to do anything but talk to myself in an irc channel is rather hampered by the fact that any web browser I load crashes on the second or third page I load.
[13:51] <tjcarter> echo is usually a shell builtin
[13:51] <SyncYourDogmas> Which bfo8?
[13:51] <SyncYourDogmas> Browser *
[13:51] <shaffl> tjcarter: so what could be the issue?
[13:51] <tjcarter> I don't know, my mouse just stopped working so I can't really open the link
[13:52] <shaffl> tjcarter: lol
[13:52] <tjcarter> SyncYourDogmas: midori, dillo just segfaults upon running it, epiphany, chromium
[13:52] <tjcarter> yeah it's kinda not funny on my end. :(
[13:52] <shaffl> tjcarter: thanks for replying, anyway:)
[13:53] <SyncYourDogmas> That sounds pretty messed up, are logs saying anything? Might be easier to start afresh though. ..
[13:54] <tjcarter> Yeah this is starting fresh as of yesterday
[13:54] <tjcarter> All I did was install the latest official Raspbian image and apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:55] <SyncYourDogmas> Maybe too fresh then :p
[13:56] <tjcarter> The only major changes I've made are larger mouse cursor (which was a PITA to do and still isn't universal) and swap lxterminal for gnome-terminal
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[13:57] <tjcarter> and a few panel tweaks mostly involving what's in the quick launch and how windows are collapsed into single icons in the win95 taskbar applet.
[13:57] <SyncYourDogmas> Did you have to install the rest of gnome?
[13:57] <tjcarter> for gnome-terminal? About 1/3 of it, yeah ;)
[13:57] <SyncYourDogmas> Not that it should matter
[13:57] <SyncYourDogmas> Lol
[13:58] <tjcarter> tons of libs
[13:58] <shaffl> Is it normal getting not output with "which echo"?
[13:58] <shaffl> no output*
[13:58] <tjcarter> no
[13:58] <tjcarter> you should get /bin/echo
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[13:59] <SyncYourDogmas> tjcarter: try ssh x forwarding the browser? See if problem is the de
[13:59] <shaffl> tjcarter: I don't understand why my /bin/echo doesn't exist
[13:59] <tjcarter> is it that it doesn't exist, or that it's not in your path?
[14:00] <tjcarter> which searches your path
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[14:00] <tjcarter> SyncYourDogmas: forward from where?
[14:01] <tjcarter> All I've got to work with here is this Pi and a couple of iPads, I really kinda miss my workstation. :(
[14:02] <SyncYourDogmas> tjcarter: I'm in a similar situation. There's vnc apps for android, but I've never used them
[14:02] <shaffl> tjcarter: just tried "sudo find / -name "echo"", no results, wow
[14:02] <shaffl> tjcarter: but "/bin/echo2" is there (wtf?)
[14:03] <tjcarter> shaffl: congratulations, you must have made some very unwise mistakes with sudo, or lost power at the wrong time, or ...
[14:03] <tjcarter> I don't have a /bin/echo2
[14:03] <SyncYourDogmas> tjcarter: although I went the opposite route, installed awesome ripped out lxde. Why do you like gnome terminal so much lol?
[14:03] <tjcarter> 506ebe315d94fb182195286c0680a857 /bin/echo
[14:03] <shaffl> tjcarter: I reinstalled raspbian recently.. and it's already scewed up like that
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[14:04] <shaffl> screwed*
[14:04] <tjcarter> SyncYourDogmas: In a word? xterm-256color
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[14:04] <SyncYourDogmas> tjcarter: ah, i use xterm for that ;)
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[14:05] <tjcarter> I like the URL features of gnome-terminal
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[14:05] <tjcarter> It's basically the major argument for using it
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[14:06] <tjcarter> I see midori is about to crash again
[14:06] <SyncYourDogmas> Does it recognise links?
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[14:06] <tjcarter> yes
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[14:07] <SyncYourDogmas> Does sound handy
[14:07] <shaffl> tjcarter: is "echo" part of "bash" package? I could reinstall bash
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[14:07] <ozzzy> yes... echo is built into bash
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[14:07] <tjcarter> ozzzy: he has no /bin/echo
[14:07] <tjcarter> ozzzy: he has a /bin/echo2
[14:07] <tjcarter> something got hosed
[14:07] <ozzzy> ahhh
[14:07] <SyncYourDogmas> shaffl: try sudo find / -name 'echo'
[14:08] <ozzzy> something in the 'alternates' died
[14:08] <tjcarter> I tried to look at his script, but midori predictably crashed.
[14:08] <shaffl> SyncYourDogmas: I already tried that. It doesn't find "echo", but "/bin/echo2" exist
[14:08] * tjcarter has NOT had good luck with stability on this Pi
[14:09] <SyncYourDogmas> Shaffl rename it then?
[14:09] <SyncYourDogmas> If its the same binary
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[14:09] <shaffl> SyncYourDogmas: I thought it. But I want to be sure it's ok, lol:)
[14:09] <shaffl> SyncYourDogmas: Now I try
[14:09] <SyncYourDogmas> Sym links are an option too
[14:10] <shaffl> SyncYourDogmas: It works. Thank you very much.
[14:11] <shaffl> tjcarter: Thank you:)
[14:11] <SyncYourDogmas> Strange though to delete echo. No worries :)
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[14:12] <shaffl> SyncYourDogmas: No idea why echo disappeared, anyway, solved!
[14:12] <shaffl> bye
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[14:13] <SyncYourDogmas> Cya!
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[14:21] <tjcarter> yeah I think I'm giving up on bluetooth. It's broken by default in Raspbian with incomppatible packaes that don't work together, broken documentation, and missing examples. You can make it work, but not with persistence upon reboot
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[14:22] <SyncYourDogmas> Can't you turn it on in rc.local?
[14:23] <tjcarter> No, you have to actually press the connect button on the underside of the devices, then run the connect command (but not the trust command, it's already trusted)
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[14:24] <tjcarter> some of the docs suggest I want to get my dongle into HCI mode and create udev rules
[14:25] <tjcarter> but midori kept crashing before I could find any details
[14:26] <SyncYourDogmas> Agh bluetooth is such a pain. There's always direct wifi
[14:26] <tjcarter> I've never seen a wifi keyboard and mouse :)
[14:27] <SyncYourDogmas> Haha fair point
[14:27] <tjcarter> Linux has typically had very poor support for things like bluetooth and firewire.
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[14:28] <tjcarter> Thunderbolt might work, but I suspect it is NOT hotpluggable. :)
[14:29] <SyncYourDogmas> Good to know, I was tempted to get a bluetoooth adapter for my keyboard
[14:29] <SyncYourDogmas> Are you a mac user? I never encounter those
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[14:30] <ozzzy> I bought a wifi thingy on ebay for a couple of bucks...works fine in windows.... haven't tried it in linux
[14:31] <ozzzy> er... bluetooth
[14:31] <ozzzy> brain isn't in gear yet
[14:32] <kingarmadillo> has anyone here installed ubuntu mate on their raspberrypi 2
[14:32] <kingarmadillo> I'm at the part that i need to resize the filesystem
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[14:34] <tjcarter> SyncYourDogmas: I use a Mac as my primary workstation, but my servers tend to be Linux
[14:36] <tjcarter> This keyboard and mouse DO work in Debian Jessie. Raspbian Jessie has other issues however.
[14:37] <tjcarter> My original B is running Raspbian Jessie, but it has no 3rdparty packages and has actually had a lot of stuff removed from the default image before upgrading.
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[14:38] <tjcarter> The B runs headless and manages some automation and a znc server mostly
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[14:39] <tjcarter> The 2 did run Jessie, but I installed a couple of 3rdparty packages that didn't understand systemd and tried to install scripts in /etc/init.d
[14:39] <tjcarter> they broke something in dbus, reboots weren't clean anymore, it was a mess.
[14:40] <SyncYourDogmas> I've just got a load of networking crap on my B, 2 I'm making a website
[14:40] <SyncYourDogmas> Just development phase
[14:41] <heller_> anyone here used wiringpi?
[14:41] <heller_> or webiopi?
[14:42] <tjcarter> IDEALLY I would like to get something up and running without X. My GUI needs are really exceptionally minimal: Gimme a terminal and a webkit container, and a way to switch between them.
[14:42] <tjcarter> heller_: I've looked at it, but I've not been able to just stop and tinker with it
[14:42] <SyncYourDogmas> I use screen and it works fine
[14:42] <SyncYourDogmas> But haven't tried terminator etc
[14:43] <SyncYourDogmas> Hmm not so sure about webkit though
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[14:48] <tjcarter> I use tmux, I've gotten tired of screen's poor utf8
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[14:48] <tjcarter> with the right tmux.conf, screen behaves well enough
[14:49] <tjcarter> er
[14:49] <tjcarter> tmux behaves well enough like screen
[14:49] <EtherKnot> howdy all. I think I shorted my pi 2. :(
[14:49] <tjcarter> I'm tired ;)
[14:49] <EtherKnot> so protip: don't start applying power to GPIO at late hours of the night when you are tired.
[14:49] <tjcarter> and that, EtherKnot, is why I want to see B+/2 versions of GPIO bufering boards. :(
[14:50] <EtherKnot> tjcarter: at least mark pin 1
[14:50] <tjcarter> yes.
[14:50] <tjcarter> though, I just stranded a 40 pin ribbon cable for turning and will be using it with a T-cobbler for such ventures.
[14:50] <EtherKnot> I mistakenly put the 5v on 3.3v pin 1 while connected ITL-USB Serial I *just* got. :(
[14:50] <qubitner1> now use shift registers from whatever gpios are alive
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[14:54] <tjcarter> EtherKnot: ouch. The Pi is NOT 5v compliant pretty much anywhere :(
[14:54] <EtherKnot> I've got no multimeter to test it so my only indication is no power LED. I'm about 800 km from where I purchased it like 5 months ago.
[14:54] <EtherKnot> tjcarter: Yeah I read this now, apperantly the B+ had some protection for the 5v but not so much on the pi 2.
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[15:12] <heller_> im curious on the webiopi, does it need the daemon to work?
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[15:15] <Qbrute> Hello All - i was given a second hand Pi and i would love some help. First thing i need to fix is the resolution. i can barely read any of the text within LXDE. When i attempted to make changes to config.txt, i found that the login it boots into doesn't have root access. i cant read a lot of the messages because of the resolution to do my own troubleshooting. any ideas?
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[15:16] <SyncYourDogmas> Theres a specific program to change text
[15:16] <SyncYourDogmas> It's in the arch linux wiki somewhere
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[15:18] <Qbrute> i'll post a screenshot, maybe that will help
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[15:46] <Qbrute> the screenshot was useless. the Pi has the resolution set to standard resolution and i need to change it to fit a widescreen tv over HDMI. i can't save changes to config.txt due to not having root.
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[15:52] <SyncYourDogmas> Why don't you have root?
[15:53] <SyncYourDogmas> Ive done the exact same thing Qbrute , 20 mins and ill help
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[15:54] <excalibas> Hello, I try to use my RPI as a wifi router with this project: https://ronnyvdbr.github.io/
[15:56] <excalibas> It seems to install ok but I cant configure the wifi usb adapter
[15:56] <SirLagz> excalibas: that's cool. I used my Pi as a wifi router for ages
[15:56] <excalibas> SirLagz, you use this project?
[15:56] <SirLagz> that wifi configuration page looks way better than mine =/
[15:56] <SirLagz> excalibas: nope. I built my own
[15:57] <excalibas> Yeah, the page looks great, but I cant get mine to work :(
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[15:58] <excalibas> Wireless Radio is always down :(
[15:58] <SirLagz> excalibas: what usb adapter are you using?
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[15:58] <excalibas> edimax ew-7612UAn
[15:58] <SirLagz> excalibas: do you know what chipset that uses?
[15:59] <excalibas> SirLagz, not sure how to check that
[15:59] <SirLagz> excalibas: google ? lsusb might tell you
[16:00] <excalibas> lsusb says Edimax Technology Co., Ltd
[16:00] <SirLagz> excalibas: if you didn't want a fancy web interface, I've written up a guide on how to do it
[16:01] <excalibas> I read here :https://ronnyvdbr.github.io/ something about the adapter must be compatible but I dont quite understand it :(
[16:01] <excalibas> SirLagz, I dont need the interface just decided to try
[16:02] <excalibas> SirLagz, maybe I can reformat the sd card and try your way
[16:02] <SirLagz> excalibas: http://sirlagz.net/2012/08/09/how-to-use-the-raspberry-pi-as-a-wireless-access-pointrouter-part-1/ <-- try that and see how you go
[16:02] <SirLagz> the post is a bit old, but should still work the same
[16:02] <excalibas> SirLagz, I should reformat the sd card first?
[16:02] <SirLagz> excalibas: up to you
[16:03] <SirLagz> excalibas: you could probably do it without reformatting
[16:03] <excalibas> SirLagz, how do I know if I am using "a RTL8188CUS based device"?
[16:03] <SirLagz> excalibas: google.
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[16:05] <SirLagz> excalibas: looks like that one uses a Realtek 8191su chipset, not sure how that works with hostapds
[16:05] <SirLagz> hostapd*
[16:06] <excalibas> SirLagz, How can I know? I dont know what to google for anymore, that is why I came here...
[16:07] <excalibas> I think it is a Realtek chipset
[16:07] <SirLagz> excalibas: google realtek 8191su hostapd
[16:07] <SirLagz> excalibas: unfortunately I have no experience wtih those chipsets
[16:07] <SirLagz> I used a Ralink RT5370 and that worked brilliantly for a while
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[16:08] <SirLagz> apparently, the RT5370 USB stick dies after ~6 months of continuous use
[16:08] <excalibas> wooo
[16:09] <excalibas> So you think I should change the adaptor?
[16:09] <SirLagz> excalibas: that's probably the easiest way
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[16:11] <excalibas> That was what I was afraid of :(
[16:11] <SirLagz> excalibas: I'm sure there are ways to get it to work with your current stick, assuming it supports AP mode
[16:12] <excalibas> It is the only one they had on the store with an antenna...
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[16:13] <excalibas> SirLagz, Can you point me a direction where to look for?
[16:13] <SirLagz> excalibas: look for what?
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[16:14] <excalibas> to find if it supports AP mode
[16:14] <SirLagz> excalibas: my blog post shows how to cehck
[16:14] <SirLagz> check*
[16:14] <excalibas> I'll read thanks
[16:15] <excalibas> I need to travel on monday and need a router. The rpi seems like a great solution
[16:16] <SirLagz> excalibas: it'd probably be cheaper, easier, and more reliable to buy one TBH
[16:16] <SirLagz> the Pi WiFi router that I had was good for an experiment, but ultimately, I could have bought one for around the same cost as my Pi + usb adapter
[16:17] <excalibas> I already have the rpi and the usb adapter, and the pack is smaller than a router
[16:17] <SirLagz> that's true
[16:17] <excalibas> I just need to connect 5 computers via ssh
[16:18] <excalibas> SirLagz, I'll try. If I cant get it to work until tomorow I give up
[16:18] <SirLagz> sure thing
[16:18] <heller_> so webiopi does not suppoert RPI2
[16:18] <heller_> hooray.
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[16:21] <excalibas> SirLagz, iw list syas : nl80211 not found.
[16:21] <excalibas> that means the chipset is nl80211?
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[16:23] <SirLagz> excalibas: no, it means that the chipset isn't using the nl80211 driver, which also means that it'll be harder to make hostapd work with your adapter.
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[16:25] <SyncYourDogmas> I have a lot of hate for that driver
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[16:26] <SirLagz> SyncYourDogmas: for nl80211?
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[16:31] <SyncYourDogmas> SirLagz: i believe so but I don't have access to check right now
[16:31] <SirLagz> SyncYourDogmas: I have more hate for the damn realtek drivers :P
[16:32] <SyncYourDogmas> I have about 6 wifi adapters, constant source of pain
[16:33] <SirLagz> SyncYourDogmas: indeed.
[16:33] <SyncYourDogmas> Even alfa ones :(
[16:33] <SirLagz> SyncYourDogmas: I've found my RT5370s to suite my needs
[16:33] <SirLagz> suit*
[16:33] <SirLagz> never used an Alfa. I've only ever used RT5370s on my Pi
[16:33] <SirLagz> all ebay spec ones
[16:34] <SyncYourDogmas> Alfas are fantastic btw if you prioritise wifi
[16:34] <SirLagz> SyncYourDogmas: I'll keep that in mind, thanks!
[16:35] <SyncYourDogmas> No worries, definitely check them out :)
[16:35] <SirLagz> SyncYourDogmas: when I have more disposable income heh
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[17:43] <GentileBen> What's the coolest case for the Pi2?
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[18:08] <Davespice> hi folks
[18:08] <skyroveRR> Hello
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[18:08] <heller_> can someone assist me on installing webiopi?
[18:08] <Davespice> brb
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[18:09] <heller_> i once installed it, and i had to reinstall it to make it work with RPI2. but i cant reinstall it.
[18:09] <SyncYourDogmas> So how feasible is controlling a dehumidifier remotely? Camera to read led display easy enough, simple web interface and restful web service to control it, maybe with geo data, annd apparently ya can use the pins to press buttons?
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[19:08] <DoctorD90> guys, hello. Sorry. I have update too, but i cant retrieve hexchat in apt.....sources.list seems ok...how may i find it?
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[19:15] <DoctorD90> ....no one that has an hint? :)
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[19:21] <blinky_> hi all wondering if someone could help a beginner. I have a pair of leds, one is an IR emitter and the other a receiver. I have each connected to the same ground through a resistor. The positive lines on each led are connected to a different GPIO pin. When I turn on the ir emitter, the clear one, and run a for loop to look for an input from the receiver, the black one, the script prints false over and over.
[19:22] <blinky_> http://pastie.org/10299951
[19:25] <DoctorD90> guys, how to install hexchat? xD
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[19:49] <Davespice> DoctorD90: does this help? https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=83067
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[20:15] <DoctorD90> Davespice: yes, it is what i would like to elude.....id like apt xD .....i hoped an adding to repo xP
[20:15] <DoctorD90> btw, issue with network manager atm....if you may help me, it would be very good xD
[20:16] <DoctorD90> i cant get the icon on sidebar ;(
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[20:23] <shiftplusone> DoctorD90: I'd add it to the repo, but there's no point, since it's already in jessie.
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[20:29] <DoctorD90> :P hi shiftplusone ! lol....when jessie will be available?
[20:29] <DoctorD90> i was going to compile xD
[20:29] <DoctorD90> so i wait xD
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[20:30] <shiftplusone> no no... compile for now.
[20:31] <DoctorD90> lol xD
[20:31] <DoctorD90> ok, many times xD good xD ahaha
[20:32] <shiftplusone> or just use xchat... it's pretty much the same thing on linux.
[20:32] <DoctorD90> btw shiftplusone actual netmanager is....hem....is a blame to ise >,>
[20:32] <DoctorD90> use*
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[20:32] <DoctorD90> yes, but with latest version of znc it cant connect :(
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[20:33] <DoctorD90> im trying to use network manager, but i don get the icon in bar....how to get it?
[20:33] <heller_> anyone played with javascript and gpio pins?
[20:33] <shiftplusone> install the gnome thingy for it
[20:34] <shiftplusone> network-manager-gnome
[20:34] <DoctorD90> >,> good bye free space
[20:34] <DoctorD90> ok! thx
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[20:51] <awoserra> use wpa_supplicant for wireless
[20:52] <DoctorD90> awoserra: too many dinamic wifi to manage....netmnager simplify my lifw
[20:52] <awoserra> network managers are not easier, just graphical
[20:52] <shiftplusone> network-manager uses wpa_supplicant behind the scenes... I think the point is to have a functional GUI that's not terrible
[20:52] <DoctorD90> life*
[20:52] <shiftplusone> and the only tool that does the job without being terrible is, unfortunately, network-manager
[20:53] <DoctorD90> yep
[20:53] <awoserra> yah, so the net difference is, you have to type out the ssid rather than click on it ;)
[20:53] <DoctorD90> and it is also very complete in settings
[20:53] <DoctorD90> awoserra: i may just migrate 1 file from all my device, and they are connected....
[20:53] <DoctorD90> instead of sync 1file.between them
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[20:54] <awoserra> scp *
[20:54] <DoctorD90> eh....a little difficult when they are not connect to the same network xD
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[20:56] <awoserra> it sounds like using a GUI to administrate all this would not be the easiest option
[20:56] <awoserra> just post it on a webserver and curl it?
[20:57] <awoserra> i dunno... you should script wpa_passphrase or something too, if you have many clients to configure
[20:59] <DoctorD90> naaa.... awoserra networkmanager is easy for me now. and easy to migrate troutgh devices :P
[21:00] <awoserra> i don't run Xorg, save a ton of space and resources
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[21:02] <DoctorD90> awo, when i need to make a search on google......an x org is better....
[21:02] <DoctorD90> lol
[21:03] <awoserra> yah probably if you don't have a laptop or desktop or phone
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[21:07] <shiftplusone> awoserra: to each his own. I used to run without X for months, but decided to come back to the full desktop. There's no one true way here.
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[21:16] <DoctorD90> shiftplusone: purchased chinese sylicon keyboard, and it doesnt recognize @ # and other "alt Gr" symbol....do you know what kind of keyboard i have to choose?
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[21:17] <shiftplusone> I don't know, I always use a US layout and an ANSI keyboard, so alt gr isn't really a thing for me
[21:17] <awoserra> DoctorD90: raspi-config to choose the correct keymap
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[21:18] <DoctorD90> awoserra: yep, runned, but it asks me various kind of keyboard
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[21:18] <DoctorD90> it says me "unknow chinese silycon keyboard" xD
[21:19] <DoctorD90> (and mathematica wont be erased from me -.- ...wolfram icon still remain in menu....yea >,> they will be never be die more T.T)
[21:20] <shiftplusone> thanks, that's a useful bug report
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[21:21] <awoserra> i'd just try a standard US layout by the look of it
[21:21] <awoserra> i notice there is a super key on both sides, so that is odd.
[21:21] <shiftplusone> the wolfram thing seems to be fixed in the current dev version of ui stuff already.
[21:21] <awoserra> the lesson, always buy hardware with an eye to the software it will use.
[21:21] <awoserra> ;)
[21:21] <DoctorD90> no shiftplusone ...wait...
[21:22] <DoctorD90> i have 2sd....from the first i have succesfully erased them during 1run
[21:23] <DoctorD90> on this one, it doesnt gives me "apt-get purge mathematica" ..tabbing "mat" it says no entry
[21:23] <DoctorD90> only wolfram-engine i have succesfully erased...
[21:23] <DoctorD90> but icon still in menu
[21:23] <DoctorD90> ON THIS SD....
[21:23] <DoctorD90> so it seems "casual" like stuff
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[21:24] <awoserra> doctor, do a dpkg -l | grep math
[21:25] <DoctorD90> i go!
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[21:25] <shiftplusone> or just sudo rm /usr/share/raspi-ui-overrides/applications/wolfram*.desktop
[21:25] <DoctorD90> nothing lol
[21:26] <shiftplusone> have you logged out and back in?
[21:26] <DoctorD90> mathematica seems strange...now i try to run...
[21:26] <DoctorD90> no
[21:26] <shiftplusone> or regenerated the menus otherwise?
[21:27] <DoctorD90> but on other sd i didnt need nothing of this.....how regenerate menu?
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[21:27] <awoserra> sudo apt-get install --reinstall mathematica?
[21:27] <shiftplusone> don't know off the top of my head
[21:27] <shiftplusone> what? why install?
[21:27] <awoserra> regenerate menus?
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[21:28] <DoctorD90> awoserra: i would erase it xD not reinstall xD sorry for misunderstand
[21:28] <awoserra> it's not there.
[21:29] <awoserra> ?
[21:29] <awoserra> or you'd be seeing it in dpkg -l
[21:29] <DoctorD90> btw, it just says that is a entry error if i type on it....oncd xompiling of hexchat will be ended i will try to restart
[21:29] <awoserra> right
[21:30] <DoctorD90> no, in dpkg-l it isnt there :)
[21:30] <awoserra> so it's not there.
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[21:30] <awoserra> it's not in your path either right?
[21:30] <DoctorD90> it seems so....
[21:30] <awoserra> whats not working?
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[21:32] <DoctorD90> hexchat compiling xD still running so, until i canf restart, all 'seems' rigth
[21:33] <awoserra> you're compiling an irc client?
[21:34] <DoctorD90> yes xD
[21:35] <DoctorD90> hexchat isnt there in raspbian repo :P
[21:35] <awoserra> ... might take a while, be patient.
[21:35] <DoctorD90> yea....for this i have to wait.. :(
[21:35] <awoserra> i compiled freebsd for raspberry pi
[21:35] <awoserra> and all the apps
[21:36] <bedah> hm.. now as i'm owning a raspi, what is the most pratical way to shut the rpi down, when not connected to a keyboard/lan? simply turn of power?
[21:36] <awoserra> it was literally days of compiling
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[21:36] <DoctorD90> i have also to run network manager...lool
[21:36] <DoctorD90> bedah: sudo halt
[21:36] <DoctorD90> or sudo reboot to reboot
[21:36] <shiftplusone> careful, if you run halt or reboot in the future (on the jessie release), bad things will happen.
[21:36] <bedah> DoctorD90, what if i want to shut it down with a switch, no keyboard connected
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[21:37] <bedah> is there a best-practice-script-gpio-fu thingy?
[21:37] <DoctorD90> wait untill it is totally turned off (green ligth beat for some times
[21:37] <DoctorD90> bedah: surely....but i do know xD
[21:37] <bedah> k
[21:38] <DoctorD90> shiftplusone: what happend? earth will be invaded from extra earth human?
[21:38] <shiftplusone> they will do those tasks without actually telling the init system to finish up
[21:38] * LarrySteeze is now known as LarrySteeze|Away
[21:38] <shiftplusone> so halt will just halt the cpu, for example
[21:38] <shiftplusone> so it's the same as yanking the power out.
[21:39] <awoserra> doctor, just launch network manager, shouldn't require a reboot...
[21:39] <shiftplusone> at least that has been the case in my experience, so I use systemctl, which works fine.
[21:39] <shiftplusone> and I think the shutdown command should also work as expected and be more portable.
[21:40] <DoctorD90> systemctl? ....i have to looking for it.in these case!
[21:40] <awoserra> shiftplusone: how do you invoke shutdown via systemctl?
[21:40] <awoserra> syntax pls?
[21:40] <DoctorD90> awoserra: im using apt/compiling/following compiling guide.....and i need wifi...so i have to wait to reboot, so dhcpcdude will die, and network-manager era will come :D
[21:40] <shiftplusone> awoserra: systemctl poweroff
[21:41] <awoserra> thx :) not in from of my pi atm
[21:41] <awoserra> :)
[21:41] <shiftplusone> DoctorD90: you won't find systemctl, it's a systemd thing, which isn't in wheezy by default.
[21:41] <shiftplusone> My warning about halt is mostly pointless, since it's not applicable to the current image.
[21:41] <awoserra> sudo killall dhcpcd && sudo network-manager-gui (whatever)
[21:41] <DoctorD90> shiftplusone: dhcpcd doesnt starts at boot btw! i have to run at boot manually form cmd lin
[21:42] <DoctorD90> yes yes :D but know is the power! so i will not make.error in jessie :D
[21:43] <awoserra> hehehe
[21:43] <awoserra> DoctorD90: irssi > *
[21:44] <DoctorD90> lol....yea...id have to learn to
[21:44] <awoserra> right.
[21:44] <awoserra> learning is it's own reward.
[21:44] <awoserra> its*
[21:44] <awoserra> whatever
[21:45] <DJRWolf> this "Raspberry Pi: The Complete Manual" says the USB power supply needs to be at least 1500 mA and I was wondering if that is still the same if you overclock the Pi 2 B+ to the max overclock (should be 1.2 GHz if I remember right) will it still be under 1500 mA?
[21:45] <awoserra> depends
[21:45] <awoserra> do you have a wireless dongle as well?
[21:45] <awoserra> usb peripherals?
[21:45] <shiftplusone> DJRWolf: there are too many variables and the lables on power supplies are meaningless. It will either work or it won't.
[21:45] <Roonix> be carefull with that max overclock I fried my Rpi 2 ^_^
[21:45] <awoserra> all these things will increase the power draw
[21:46] <shiftplusone> IF you have a power supply that is truly able to deliver a solid 5v at 1.5A, you'll be fine.
[21:46] <DoctorD90> shiftplusone: in next version a wifi chip would be nice.....
[21:46] * shiftplusone grumbles
[21:46] <DoctorD90> xD
[21:47] <SyncYourDogmas> I disagree actually
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[21:47] <SyncYourDogmas> I'd rather pick my own wifi adapter
[21:48] <SyncYourDogmas> My current one has one 9dBi antenna and one 12dBi antenna :P
[21:48] <awoserra> my wireless dongle is hella flaky
[21:49] <awoserra> i don't use it.
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[21:50] <SyncYourDogmas> This is why I like the choice, different people different needs
[21:50] <DoctorD90> has an integrated wifi doesnt forbid to use a wifi dongle...
[21:50] <DoctorD90> yea! :D this is linux :D
[21:51] <SyncYourDogmas> Waste of space though, it would be a tradeoff for something else
[21:51] <SyncYourDogmas> I would like an inbuilt laser for example :p
[21:52] <shiftplusone> to strap onto sharks?
[21:52] <DJRWolf> awoserra for one of my Pi's I do plan on using wired Ethernet and the HDMI display with a mouse and keyboard, but I also plan on having a cluster of 12 Pi's that will be "headless", will only have power and Ethernet, nothing ealts
[21:52] <SyncYourDogmas> You may be onto something
[21:52] * shiftplusone tries to figure out where a laser on an sbc would be useful
[21:52] <DJRWolf> Roonix I do plan to have heat sinks
[21:53] <SyncYourDogmas> It exists as an accessory
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[21:53] <SyncYourDogmas> Wny 12 pis?
[21:53] <shiftplusone> DJRWolf: forget heatsinks, they're just there to take money from gullible people.
[21:54] <Roonix> they also look nice on some cases th
[21:54] <Roonix> though*
[21:54] <DJRWolf> SyncYourDogmas I plan on not getting them all at one time and 6 port USB chargers are easy enough to find for a good price
[21:55] <DJRWolf> SyncYourDogmas easy enough to get first 6 and then a few months later get the other 6
[21:55] <SyncYourDogmas> DJRWolf: you must have an end goal in mind?
[21:55] <DJRWolf> SyncYourDogmas farm BOINC credits like a boss :)
[21:56] <shiftplusone> =/
[21:56] * shiftplusone prepares the trout
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[21:57] <SyncYourDogmas> BOINC eh?....I have na solar panel I've been considering mining with. ..
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[21:57] <CoJaBo> shiftplusone: Wait, so that liquid-N2 cooling system I bought was a SHAM????????
[21:58] <DJRWolf> SyncYourDogmas considering that there will be 12 of them crunching away 24/7/365 it should be a good way to get credits
[21:58] <shiftplusone> CoJaBo: yeah, it's liquid helium or nothing
[21:59] <SyncYourDogmas> I'm not familiar with boinc but you sure electricity costs won't be higher?
[21:59] <DoctorD90> reboot :D
[22:00] <shiftplusone> anyway... home time.
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[22:00] <DoctorD90> dhcpdiscover time -.- uff...
[22:00] <SyncYourDogmas> This is where the genius of my solar panel comes into play. ..
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[22:01] <DoctorD90> ?? ah!
[22:01] <SyncYourDogmas> I had it laying around anyway
[22:01] <SyncYourDogmas> Still think I'll only make pennies per month
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[22:05] <DoctorD90> uhm...networkmanager cant see wlan0 .....uhm
[22:05] <tawr> heh
[22:05] <DoctorD90> i have to auto inteffaces
[22:05] <DoctorD90> i have commented all xD
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[22:06] <tawr> DJRWolf: heatsinks aren't all a sham, though
[22:07] <tawr> they can have a use, it's just very niche
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[22:28] <Majost__> Does anyone know if the RPi2 suffers from the repeated start transactions bug?
[22:28] <Majost__> for i2c that is
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[22:45] <Master47> Good evening channel.
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[22:46] <Master47> I have a 2gb sd card left and I'd like to use it with my next RPi. Now, I understand that Raspbian is larger than 2gb. Are there alternatives that fit on the card? I need the console only, GUI not required.
[22:46] <Master47> :)
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[22:49] <mimer> Master47, there is actually a minimal raspbian on sourceforge
[22:49] <mimer> http://sourceforge.net/projects/minibian/
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[22:53] <Master47> Thank you very much, mimer. I'll try this one then.
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[23:49] <heller_> how hard can it be to turn a pin on with python and wiringpi
[23:50] <H__> rather trivial
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[23:51] <tawr> it's actually 2 lines
[23:51] <heller_> i cant make it work
[23:51] <heller_> :d
[23:52] <heller_> http://pastebin.com/2e8Yj5Wg
[23:52] <heller_> does nothing
[23:52] <tawr> gpio -g write <pin#> 0
[23:52] <tawr> gpio -g mode <pin> out
[23:52] <tawr> gpio -g mode 38 out
[23:52] <H__> I use this : import wiringpi2 as wp2; wp2.wiringPiSetup(); relay2=1; wp2.pinMode(relay2, wp2.GPIO.OUTPUT); wp2.digitalWrite(relay2, wp2.GPIO.HIGH)
[23:52] <tawr> for example^
[23:52] <heller_> whats the difference on wiringpi and wiringpi2?
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[23:53] <H__> wiringpi2 is newer version
[23:53] <heller_> hmm
[23:53] <tawr> heller_: not doing it right, :)
[23:54] <heller_> somehow i think im not doing anything right
[23:54] <heller_> i have had so much problems here
[23:54] <heller_> as always.
[23:55] <heller_> ill get the wp2 and try again
[23:55] <heller_> should/can i remove wiringpi(1)
[23:56] <tawr> heller_: there is a big learning curve bud
[23:57] <tawr> i was just joking :)
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[23:57] <tawr> but once you 'get it', you feel like a conquerer
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[23:57] <heller_> wel..

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