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[23:32] <nid0> the uk does manage that a bit better, most of our smaller and "premium" isps have been around for donkeys years running independently :p
[23:33] <SpeedEvil> ali1234: that's not - quite - true. There are some tiny ISPs in coverage not-spots
[23:33] <ali1234> such as?
[23:33] <nid0> in the uk?
[23:33] <ali1234> yeah
[23:33] <ali1234> i need a new ISP...
[23:34] <ali1234> zen looks like the best option
[23:34] <nid0> aaisp, idnet, aquiss, zen, icuk
[23:34] <nid0> all have been around since the 90's
[23:34] * Kamilion wanders back off to pythonland
[23:34] <nid0> (I can recommend both zen and icuk from current experience)
[23:35] <ali1234> idnet and aaisp are really expensive
[23:35] <nid0> yep
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[23:35] <nid0> so're icuk, for fibre
[23:35] <ali1234> zen doesn't do ipv6, that's the only thing against them
[23:35] <nid0> but icuk do do adsl provided through C&W LLU exchanges which is dirt cheap for genuinely unmetered access
[23:36] <ShadowJK> Does daemon still exist?
[23:36] <ali1234> you mean demon? sort of, they're currently owned by vodafone
[23:36] <nid0> yeah, my opinion of them dropped off a cliff when they got bought out by Thus though
[23:36] <nid0> and now theyre a vodafone brand
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[23:37] <ali1234> they have no staff any more, their web hosting and email is outsourced and they shut down everything else
[23:37] <ali1234> the support link on their website now takes you to vodafone.com
[23:37] <ali1234> even their bandwidth metering is non-functional at this point
[23:38] <nid0> demon is an exact example of an isp that's been bought and traded and amalgamated around for years
[23:39] <nid0> was its own entity for 6 years in the 90's and has been owned by one big business to another ever since
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[23:39] <ali1234> i've been with them since 1994
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[23:40] <nid0> I was from about 95 to 2006 or so
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[23:51] * Kamilion nods
[23:51] <Kamilion> I was with inow's service from 89 to ~97 when Pacific Bell first introduced 1.5Mbit DSL.
[23:52] <Kamilion> that was when i built my first linux box, a 386DX2/66 with 8 whole MB of ram, a 100MB IDE disk, two 3COM 3C509B-Combo ISA cards, one for the 10BaseT link from the alcatel 1000 modem, one for our 10base2 thinwire coax home network.
[23:52] <Kamilion> ipchains. Maaaaaan, that takes me back.
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[23:53] <Kamilion> I remember starting around kernel 1.3.20...
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[23:54] <Kamilion> Oh, right, I had an ISA 112Kbit "dualmodem" in that machine for a while, and a 56K before that, and a 33.6K before that, back before win95's release... Heh. Sitting around on windows 3.11 for workgroups, chatting on efnet with mIRC...
[23:56] <Kamilion> now you can get a computer that could emulate four of those computers on screen at once, in the size of a credit card, for $40.
[23:57] <Kamilion> That would have been two months of my PPP internet access, back then. :)
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