#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-07-29

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[1:06] <mattwj2002> hey guys
[1:06] <mattwj2002> is there anything similar to this?
[1:06] <mattwj2002> http://nzenmods.com/
[1:08] <NedScott> I don't understand the point of that
[1:08] <NedScott> I understand wanting to make a portable emulator with the pi
[1:09] <NedScott> but if you want to buy something already made then there are much better options
[1:09] <NedScott> there's a lot of Android-powered portables out there for under $100 that will run the same emulators
[1:09] <NedScott> that's $100 without a pi
[1:09] <mattwj2002> yeah I like it but it is too expensive
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[1:10] <ritual> anyone know of a service that will monitor my pi and alert me when/if it becomes unreachable?
[1:10] <NedScott> ritual: off hand, no, but you can set up the hardware watchdog to reboot itself if it freezes up
[1:11] <mattwj2002> hey guys
[1:11] <ritual> I'm looking for more of a remote service I can run
[1:11] <mattwj2002> Microsoft has rpi b for $19 usd
[1:11] <NedScott> like just if it's offline?
[1:11] <mattwj2002> grr
[1:12] <ritual> it wouldn't be foolproof, but it'd give me ballpark
[1:12] <mattwj2002> Microcenter not Microsoft
[1:12] <b00ger_daddy> ritual: sign up for a free clud acciunt and use one of those macines to ping back to your pi
[1:12] <ritual> NedScott: yeah
[1:12] <mattwj2002> spiceworks
[1:12] <mattwj2002> but it requires windows
[1:12] <ritual> b00ger_daddy: yeah, I have a VPS and was looking to set up something from there pretty much
[1:12] <mattwj2002> they have a nice free networking tool
[1:13] <ritual> yeah that wouldn't work unfortunately
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[1:14] <mattwj2002> ritual: no problem just a thought
[1:14] <ritual> yeah thanks. :)
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[1:15] <ritual> mattwj2002: the tl;dr is that we've been having a lot of power outages, and this is just a really simple way for me to get an idea of when/how often occur
[1:16] <mattwj2002> ritual: is your equipment on a ups/
[1:16] <ritual> some of it
[1:17] <mattwj2002> i wonder if the ups has that option
[1:17] <ritual> I'm basically trying to monitor how frequently they occur. It's happening far too often to be acceptable.
[1:17] <ritual> nah, it doesn't unfortunately.
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[1:18] <ritual> mattwj2002: https://pingability.com/planpricing.jsp this may actually work for me :)
[1:18] <ritual> would let me check every 7 or so minutes per month for free
[1:19] <ritual> no wait, every hour. nevermind.
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[1:20] <mattwj2002> ritual: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=uk.co.sjbcomputerconsultants.powercut.free&hl=en
[1:21] <mattwj2002> that is a unique idea
[1:21] * mattwj2002 clicks
[1:21] <NedScott> neat
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[1:22] <ritual> oh this will actually work
[1:22] <mattwj2002> yeah all you need is an android phone with a cell connection
[1:22] <ritual> er wait, my only spare android device is a tablet, no 3g
[1:22] <mattwj2002> oh bummer :(
[1:22] <ritual> too bad. this is perfect.
[1:23] <ritual> oh you know what though? the pro version logs everything. which is good enough.
[1:23] <NedScott> burner phone :)
[1:23] <ritual> thanks mattwj2002 !!
[1:23] <mattwj2002> your welcome ritual
[1:23] <ritual> this'll be perfect
[1:23] <mattwj2002> ritual: full disclosure
[1:24] <mattwj2002> I have never used it before
[1:24] <mattwj2002> :)
[1:24] <mattwj2002> but it looks exactly what you want
[1:24] <mattwj2002> ritual: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=uk.co.sjbcomputerconsultants.powercut.pro&hl=en
[1:24] <ritual> yeah. I don't even need realtime alerts, I just need a record.
[1:24] <mattwj2002> there is a paid version too
[1:24] <ritual> yeah I'm gonna need the paid version for the logging. but $6 isn't much compared to my alternatives.
[1:26] <mattwj2002> android phones are cheap nowdays
[1:26] <mattwj2002> if you don't need much of a phone
[1:26] <mattwj2002> :)
[1:26] <ritual> yeah, well I have a tablet that will suffice anyways :)
[1:26] <mattwj2002> that will work
[1:26] <mattwj2002> too
[1:26] <ritual> so I don't even need new hardware
[1:27] <mattwj2002> 3g though?
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[1:27] <ritual> mattwj2002: I don't need the 3g, the Pro version will log power up/down.
[1:27] <mattwj2002> ohhh!
[1:27] <mattwj2002> perfect :D
[1:27] <ritual> to the device. so I can just review it later. =)
[1:27] <ritual> yeah that's why I got so stoked :)
[1:28] <mattwj2002> ritual: if i am not being too personal..........
[1:28] <mattwj2002> where in the world are you?
[1:28] <mattwj2002> what part of the world
[1:28] <mattwj2002> ?
[1:28] <mattwj2002> I am in Minneapolis, MN, USA
[1:28] <ritual> BC Canada :P
[1:29] <mattwj2002> dang Canada! :P
[1:29] <ritual> there's a lot of construction in my area which I think is causing it, I just want to know how often it happens when we're not home.
[1:29] <mattwj2002> 6 hours from your boarder ;0
[1:29] <ritual> so I can go to Hydro with the data and say hey look.
[1:30] <mattwj2002> got ya
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[1:36] <ritual> yeah I'm not far from the American border
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[1:39] <Reg_> i bought a Raspberry Pi 2 and trying to start using my laptop screen. As per few blogs and youtube videos, i came to know that the cmdline.txt file needs to be modified. however, i dont see that file.
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[1:40] <Reg_> Can somebody advise me right tutorial to refer to
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[1:44] <NedScott> what are you trying to do?
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[2:29] <Reg_> Can raspberry pi2 be started and setup with out a monitor? i have a laptop
[2:30] <Reg_> looking at one of the blog, i connected my pi2 to the router and powered up. I got the IPof pi and trying to ssh. its unable to connect
[2:31] <Reg_> the SD card is supposed to have Noob. perhaps its corrupt?
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[2:31] <ritual> noobs will just help you install the OS
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[2:32] <ritual> Reg_: http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/15192/installing-raspbian-from-noobs-without-display
[2:32] <Reg_> oh ok. so as per http://www.circuitbasics.com/raspberry-pi-basics-setup-without-monitor-keyboard-headless-mode/ do i need to download Raspian, format etc?
[2:33] <ritual> Reg_: try seeing if that link I posted helps you
[2:33] <Reg_> thanks. checking.
[2:34] <ritual> if not, imaging Raspbian onto the SD would work. Should be able to run setup via ssh.
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[2:36] <Reg_> I think its not for Pi2 .. they are mentioning about installing old version on NOOB
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[2:38] <Reg_> can i following the instructions on http://www.circuitbasics.com/raspberry-pi-basics-setup-without-monitor-keyboard-headless-mode/ ? they seem to be more descriptive since i have used SD formatter before
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[2:57] <Reg_> i formatted the SD card and find no files in there as per hte link
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[3:08] <Reg_> selected quick format so everything got erased :(
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[3:10] <ritual> so you want to put an OS on the SD card then?
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[3:28] <Bogus8> I'm having problems with a C-Media USB audo "card"... the recordings with it are VERY low in volume. I've used alsamixer to make adjustments but I'm not getting anywhere. Any ideas?
[3:29] <Bogus8> It's a c119 card if that matters.
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[3:42] <biberao> hi
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[4:17] <rektide> all the instructions i read compile the kernel from raspberry pi's linux tree. is there any reason i can't use upstream?
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[4:17] <rektide> major code smell if i need some vendor branch to boot a platform
[4:19] <niston> Bogus8 trying to record from a microphone?
[4:20] <Bogus8> niston: yes sir
[4:20] <niston> Bogus8: the sound card might not have a microphone preamp
[4:21] <Bogus8> It has a picture of a microphone on the pink 1/8th inch jack... I know that doesn't mean much but it'expexpecting a mic.
[4:22] <niston> maybe the preamp has to be activated somehow
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[4:22] <niston> from http://www.cmedia.com.tw/productsdetail/page-p/c1serno-25/c2serno-26/pserno-6.html: Mono ADC Microphone Input with Optional +20dB Booster
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[4:23] <rektide> ew what is wrong with this terrible platform? why can i not use mainline kernels? this is dreadful
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[4:24] <rektide> trail of tears going through forums looking for the adventerous few who've tried using anything other than this special snowflake kernel. :(
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[4:25] <Bogus8> niston: how might I go about activating this boost I wonder.
[4:25] <niston> is there no boost switch thing in alsamixer?
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[4:26] <niston> https://badlinuxadvice.wordpress.com/2013/01/10/how-to-mic-boost-in-gnulinux/
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[4:28] <Bogus8> Nope, just auto gain control, mic, capture and volume
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[4:29] <Bogus8> Maybe some sort of also config or update (pi is fully up to date as far as I know).
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[4:55] <mattwj2002> hey all
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[5:03] <niston> err the last apt-get update messed up
[5:03] <niston> alsamixer doesn't work nomore
[5:04] <niston> pi@raspi ~ $ alsamixer
[5:04] <niston> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[5:04] <niston> pi@raspi ~ $ amixer
[5:04] <niston> amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such file or directory
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[5:13] <niston> ah.
[5:13] <niston> had to add dtoverlay to boot.txt
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[5:23] <stevethesmith> hi ive forgotten my rpi password, and am trying to follow the steps here -> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=20397 but once ive gotten to shell prompt, i have no write permissions. any ideas why?
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[5:29] <niston> stevethesmith: mount -rw -o remount /
[5:29] <niston> before passwd pi
[5:30] <niston> see here http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2014/08/how-to-reset-a-forgotten-raspberry-pi-password/
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[5:33] <stevethesmith> niston thanks! that was the command i needed. im in now
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[5:34] <niston> yw
[5:34] <stevethesmith> on another note, how would you tell if sd card was corrupted in some way? i had some errors show up while it was booting this time, and really dont think i forgot the password, but it wouldnt let me log in regardless. wondering if there might be another issue
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[5:42] <niston> stevethesmith tell it to fsck at next reboot
[5:42] <niston> sudo shutdown -F -r now
[5:43] <cybr1d> no matter how many times i see someone being told to fsck, it always seems dirty.
[5:46] <niston> hah!
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[5:52] <stevethesmith> didnt see anything different happen. must be something wrong elsewhere. thanks a bunch
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[5:56] <niston> cat /var/log/fsck/
[5:56] <niston> eerr
[5:56] <niston> cd /var/log/fsck/
[5:56] <niston> then cat the latest file
[5:56] <niston> :D
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[10:10] <blank4> how sensitive is the pi to touching/moving around etc
[10:10] <blank4> wwhen it's on
[10:10] <blank4> can it freeze if you accidentally touches the pins or someting?
[10:11] <shiftplusone> If you shock it with static, all kinds of things can happen.
[10:12] <shiftplusone> I move my pi around all the time, but I don't go touching the pins, since the area I'm in builds up static a fair bit.
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[10:17] <ThinkingofPython> I reckon it wouldn't do any real damage though right?
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[10:18] <ThinkingofPython> esd protection
[10:20] <kubast2> Hey does dnsmasq can set trust-anchor= option in config file of dnsmasq[https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Dnsmasq] ? I've tried in a seperate file[http://fossies.org/linux/dnsmasq/dnsmasq.conf.example 25 line conf-file=/etc/dnsmasq.trust-anchors.conf example of that file: https://github.com/ArchiDroid/dnsmasq/blob/master/trust-anchors.conf]. I want to turn on dnssec validation on my dns cache.
[10:21] <kubast2> every time I input trust-anchor or dnssec dnsmasq fails to start
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[10:22] <kubast2> dnsmasq starts ,but only when I delete all 3 options trust-anchor dnssec dnssec-check-unsigned
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[10:30] * ThinkingofPython tortures the raspberrypi foundation into telling me when the Pi Education fund reopens
[10:30] <ThinkingofPython> Year 20XX
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[10:33] <shiftplusone> ThinkingofPython: it seems like you're only frustrating yourself by constantly checking
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[10:34] <ThinkingofPython> hahaa noo, it's a joke
[10:34] <ThinkingofPython> :) I wrote a program in python to load the page, and query it for keywords
[10:34] <ThinkingofPython> so it does the checking for me
[10:34] <ThinkingofPython> runs once a week
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[10:35] <ThinkingofPython> I appreciate the concern though :) No worries man heh
[10:35] <ThinkingofPython> Anything new with you?
[10:35] <shiftplusone> Nope... I just sleep and work... nothing new ever happens.
[10:36] <nos09> can some body please share /proc/config.gz of their Pi 2 B ? i am installing gentoo on it. and i dont have config.gz
[10:36] <shiftplusone> nos09: modprobe configs ?
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[10:37] <nos09> shiftplusone, the card is empty. And i am doing it from a gentoo VM box
[10:37] <shiftplusone> oh right
[10:37] <shiftplusone> make bcm2709_defconfig ?
[10:37] <nos09> what is that ?
[10:38] <shiftplusone> You're compiling your own kernel, right?
[10:38] <nos09> shiftplusone, yes. from the github kernel source provided by PI
[10:38] <shiftplusone> yeah, that will get you the .config you're after for a pi 2
[10:38] <nos09> shiftplusone, thanks man.
[10:38] <shiftplusone> np
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[10:42] <ThinkingofPython> Gotta love that +30sec latency due to 2g tether
[10:42] <ThinkingofPython> fixed
[10:42] <ThinkingofPython> hmm shiftplusone but you enjoy your job, right?
[10:43] <shiftplusone> of course
[10:43] <ThinkingofPython> :) nice
[10:43] <ThinkingofPython> lucky ahaha
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[12:00] <AM> Anyone know the where the rasbian vulnerabilities mailing list is? I need to check if the SSH bug is patched yet.
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[12:01] <shiftplusone> AM: what you do is check the debian security tracker, then check the version of the package you're running.
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[12:01] <shiftplusone> Then you (probably) realise that it has been patched ages ago.
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[12:02] <shiftplusone> 'apt-cache policy package' to check the exact version
[12:02] <AM> thanks
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[12:02] <shiftplusone> np
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[12:56] <ThinkingofPython> :)
[12:56] <ThinkingofPython> hai
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[12:57] <ldc> hi
[12:57] <ldc> is there a text-only version of raspbian compatible with the B+?
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[12:58] <ldc> I've tried this one but usb and network don't work: http://www.linuxsystems.it/raspbian-wheezy-armhf-raspberry-pi-minimal-image/
[12:58] <shiftplusone> try this http://nightly.raspberrypi.org/nightlyimages-v2/20150729-raspbian-wheezy-1/20150729-raspbian-wheezy-1-noX.zip
[12:58] <shiftplusone> or this https://github.com/debian-pi/raspbian-ua-netinst
[12:59] <shiftplusone> or minibian.... or a variety of other options.
[12:59] <ShorTie> or there is always my_pi_os too....
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[12:59] <shiftplusone> (https://github.com/ShorTie8/my_pi_os)
[13:00] <ldc> ok thanks
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[13:58] <mentazoom> t3chguy:
[13:58] <mentazoom> t3chguy: Still here?
[13:58] <t3chguy> Sure
[13:59] <mentazoom> Is there any significant difference between these two for RPi2? https://www.dustinhome.no/product/5010807647/extreme-pro#specifications and https://www.dustinhome.no/product/5010795915/pro-mb-sg64d#specifications
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[14:00] <mentazoom> I ordered Samsung, but I can cancel and change it. ALmost same price
[14:01] <t3chguy> I'll take a look in a few minutes, alright?
[14:01] <mentazoom> Okey thanks
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[14:04] <shiftplusone> mentazoom: it doesn't make sense to use class 10 cards in a pi (it's not a camera). In fact, there are known issues with some of them.
[14:05] <mentazoom> shiftplusone: Which class should I use?
[14:05] <shiftplusone> 4 or 6 work fine, but it seems like you're overthinking it a little.
[14:05] <mentazoom> I overthink everything... annoying
[14:05] <shiftplusone> I use this one http://swag.raspberrypi.org/collections/frontpage/products/noobs-8gb-sd-card
[14:06] <t3chguy> I use a class 10
[14:06] <t3chguy> And I'm currently over thinking my psu lol
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[14:06] <mentazoom> I need 64 GB card
[14:06] <t3chguy> I only use this card because I already had it spare
[14:06] <brasizza> sup guys
[14:06] <t3chguy> Why 64?
[14:07] <mentazoom> Going to use it as Bitcoin node so need to store whole blockchain. Atleast gonna test it as that
[14:07] <brasizza> my rpi has 8 pins in front of the video rca , what is that ?
[14:07] <brasizza> the other don't have , just holes
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[14:07] <shiftplusone> well, keep in mind that sd cards only store a statistical approximation of your data, so be prepared to lose it.
[14:08] <shiftplusone> that's why I think high performance and high capacity cards don't make sense... they're not reliable enough to justify the cost, imho.
[14:08] <mentazoom> Should I use USB flash drive?
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[14:08] <t3chguy> I'll be using a NAS for data that needs to be reliably stored
[14:09] <shiftplusone> I use an HDD, but a flash drive should be okay (though they use the same technology as sd cards)
[14:09] <ozzzy_> brasizza, JTAG header
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[14:10] <shiftplusone> ozzzy_: you sure?
[14:10] <shiftplusone> Oh... seems like it is
[14:11] <mentazoom> shiftplusone: Can I use this guide for USB flash drive if I want to use external HDD?
[14:11] <mentazoom> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcrB_eg5FTI&list=LLzSxlms0BJT-cdEv9GxyM2g&index=1
[14:11] <brasizza> what is it for ? i have 5 rpi with holes and one with the pins i think can be some old rev of b ?
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[14:11] <t3chguy> and mentazoom to answer your question, the Sandisk one is faster
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[14:12] <shiftplusone> mentazoom: I don't know, I'm not going to watch a video.
[14:12] <mentazoom> When I try to buy I get one step back again
[14:12] <t3chguy> 95/90 vs 90/80 (MB)
[14:12] <mentazoom> hehe:p
[14:13] <mentazoom> shiftplusone: But a external HDD would make noise at night
[14:13] <t3chguy> get an external SSD xD
[14:13] <mentazoom> I think I will just not buy RPi2 for moment lol
[14:14] <t3chguy> I'm thinking of getting a Unicorn Hat for mine
[14:14] <t3chguy> if it'll fit inside the official RPi Dev case
[14:14] <shiftplusone> I think I've seen them in that case, but I'm not sure.
[14:15] <mentazoom> Why does so many use SD card if it's not reliable
[14:15] <t3chguy> because the chance of unreliability exists in everything
[14:15] <t3chguy> a HDD for instance, you move it while its running and could destroy it
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[14:17] <brasizza> pi
[14:17] <ozzzy_> brasizza, it's for ciruit programming and board testing
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[14:18] <brasizza> thanks!
[14:20] <mentazoom> So how realible is SD compared to other drives?
[14:20] <ldc> does anyone know of a wireless chipset that works out of the box with a rpi?
[14:20] <t3chguy> ldc: I had 3 random wireless USB adapters and they all worked
[14:20] <ozzzy_> I've never had an SD fail
[14:20] <shiftplusone> depends on individual sd and individual <other thing>
[14:20] <t3chguy> 2 of them were cheap pieces of shit
[14:20] <t3chguy> and they worked better than my NetGear one
[14:20] <shiftplusone> I haven't had any sd cards fail either
[14:20] <shiftplusone> but I hear about it all the time
[14:21] <ldc> eh I'm using mt7601 but nightly has 4.0.9 kernel
[14:21] <ldc> so compiling the driver is a mess
[14:21] <shiftplusone> ldc: you could reinstall raspberrypi-bootloader package, which should downgrade it.
[14:22] <shiftplusone> sudo apt-get install raspberrypi-bootloader --reinstall, I think
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[14:25] <ldc> I'll try
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[14:26] <ldc> Reinstallation of raspberrypi-bootloader is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
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[14:44] <shiftplusone> ldc: use apt-cache policy to find the version that's available
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[14:45] <shiftplusone> and then use apt-get install raspberrypi-bootloader=version
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[14:49] <ldc> shiftplusone: seems to work, it's downloading
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[15:56] <t3chguy> hmm
[15:56] <t3chguy> I have a huge fan I could attach my Pi to xD
[15:57] <t3chguy> I think its like 220mm
[15:57] <Berg> you pi would float above the desk?
[15:57] <t3chguy> lol that'd be a good idea
[15:58] <t3chguy> just destroy a kite
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[15:58] <t3chguy> and give the pi wings xD
[15:58] <ldc> are new pi2 enclosures compatible with b+ ?
[15:59] <t3chguy> most of them yeah
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[16:06] <dagle> Hi, I have a problem with my old raspberry pi and that it doesn't detect the SD card if I don't push it downwards. People suggested that I should glue stuff to the SD-card to make it larger so that it works and it does for a while. Anybody else with this problem?
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[16:06] <dagle> Also, a better solution would be helpful.
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[16:09] <niston> replace the sd card socket :)
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[17:13] <gregor3005> hi, does anybody use a rpi with owncloud? today i upgraded to an rpi2 because with my rpi1 (model b) it was so extremly slow. i plan to synchronize contacts and calendar. normally i use zimbra, but this is to heavy for an rpi
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[17:13] <gregor3005> (i found also the project "radicale" as caldav and carddav server)
[17:13] <shiftplusone> gregor3005: does owncloud run any better on the pi 2?
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[17:14] <fluffet> gregor3005: i discussed this yesterday with someone who used it on an odroid 2 (which supposedly has same performance) as a raspberry pi
[17:15] <gregor3005> shiftplusone: wired is that i have now a little bit more free ram but when i access the page apache spans many processes and then the owncloud page is extremly slow, but better than with the rpi1
[17:15] <fluffet> and supposedly it worked very well
[17:15] <gregor3005> fluffet: does he uses carddav and caldav? i think these are the problem here
[17:16] <gregor3005> during every sync period the rpi works really heavy
[17:17] <fluffet> im not sure actually
[17:17] <fluffet> only one way to find out though :)
[17:17] <fluffet> why don't you just install it and see
[17:19] <gregor3005> fluffet: i have installed it and it is really slow but i get a response in #owncloud from one who use it an an rpi
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[17:42] <gregor3005> the next step i plan for the rpi is a imap server (dovecot) to users can share internally mailfolders so i have quit the outlook365 account for my customer ;-) what will be better for the storage, usb harddisk or mounting a nfs share from a nas or it is irrelevant?
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[17:44] <SyncYourDogmas> You might as well have local storage
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[18:03] <niston> any storage goes through the USB so it's largely irrelevant
[18:03] <niston> (doesnt apply to SD card)
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[18:11] <SyncYourDogmas> I use mine as NAS by adding a usb hdd
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[18:11] <giDdles> owncloud?
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[18:13] <SyncYourDogmas> Me? I use no-ip.org for dynamic dns
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[18:13] <Bilby> owncloud is an open-source file syncing tool, a-la dropbox
[18:13] <SyncYourDogmas> Ah interesting
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[18:14] <gregor3005> does anybody know a good case for the rpi2 made with openscad which i can print? currently i didn't find a good one at thingiverse
[18:14] <shiftplusone> Well, it's more of a bloated frontend for said service than the service itself.
[18:14] <SyncYourDogmas> Might check that out. Ive just been doing things manually with ssh
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[18:44] <Davespice> dagle: you still here?
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[18:45] <Davespice> dagle: there are several solutions to this, each being slightly more invasive that the previous
[18:46] <Davespice> 1) clothes peg, 2) re-bend the sping-loaded metal contacts of the SD card holder 3) remove the SD card holder and solder on a new one
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[18:47] <Davespice> I would see if #2 works for you, you can do this with a pair of tweezers pretty easily, and then the pins grip the SD much better (I'm assuming this is a Pi 1 model A or B)
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[18:52] <t3chguy> I feel like my Raspberry Pi2 idle temps are really high :/
[18:52] <ldc> http://it.aliexpress.com/item/Raspberry-Pi-Model-B-B-Plus-Black-Case-Cover-Shell-Enclosure-Box-2pcs-pure-aluminum-heat/32384213594.html
[18:52] <ldc> lol just got this
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[18:53] <dagle> Davespice: I'm here. Well, number 1 make life harder. The thing is that nothing looks damaged. The SD card is bent a little but nothing beyond normal.
[18:53] <t3chguy> 47.1C with two copper heatsinks and the top of the case removed
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[18:54] <Davespice> dagle: yeah it may not be damaged at all, but after a lot of use the metal contacts loose their springyness, and this can cause a poor contact with the plates on the SD card
[18:54] <Davespice> if you re bend them, they apply more pressure to the metal plates
[18:55] <dagle> I'm going to see what the store have as a return policy for it... I mean, I would say the design is broken. And yeah, they sold a kit with it and it started to behave badly after 2 weeks.
[18:56] <Bilby> Model A/B with a funky SD card slot?
[18:56] <dagle> Yeah.
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[18:56] <Davespice> up to you, yeah we were not happy with the sd card which is why we moved to micro SD with the B+
[18:57] <Bilby> I haven't had any problems with mine, but yeah, that's why they went to the micro slot
[18:57] <t3chguy> oooh Davespice is actually from the Raspberry Foundation?
[18:57] <Bilby> I have uuh 25 or so under my wing right now
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[18:57] <Davespice> err yeah?
[18:57] <Bilby> I can neveremember who's normal and who's not in here, haha
[18:57] <t3chguy> Cool, sorry I'm new to the RPi scene
[18:57] <dagle> Well, until now I have been able to use it by gluing things to the SD card that pushes it down. Now that wont even work.
[18:58] <t3chguy> switched out the 5.1V supply for a 5V one to see if the Idle temps drop at all (in theory, due to the Switching over Linear regulators, it shouldn't)
[18:58] <Bilby> dagle unless you were holding it by the SD card that should not be a problem by now. maybe it was a bad solder job or someone else bought and returned it, i'd try to exchange
[18:58] <Davespice> but dagle, if you look at this image: http://raspi.tv/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/DSC_3796.jpg the pins just need to be gripped with a tweezer and pulled towards the left a bit, this makes the bend higher and able to apply more pressure to the SD card
[18:59] <dagle> Bilby: It wasn't bought and returned.
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[18:59] <Bilby> aha
[19:01] <t3chguy> and idle temp is lower, so something in there is heating up with that extra 0.1V :/
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[19:01] <Bilby> actually, about half of those model Bs are literally wedged between an LCD mount bracket and the back of a screen, in the space created by some aluminum stand-offs. we were going to print cases for them but they ended up not fitting
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[19:01] <dagle> Davespice: The question is how long that would last.
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[19:02] <Davespice> I guess it would depend on how often you remove and insert SD cards
[19:03] <Davespice> maybe option 3 is better? you can actually replace it with a much better SD card slot
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[19:03] <Davespice> http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Repair-a-Broken-Raspberry-Pi-SD-Card-Slot/
[19:03] <Davespice> just needs a bit of soldering skill
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[19:04] <dagle> I just wonder how that would cost.
[19:04] <dagle> With shipping.
[19:05] <Davespice> we went with that SD card slot as part of meeting the price point of the Pi, every single component on it had a discussion about whether it deserved to be on there or not
[19:05] <t3chguy> £2.70 in the UK lol
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[19:05] <t3chguy> or no, £2.44 in the UK, with postage lol
[19:05] <Davespice> most common issue is the plastic tab snapping
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[19:10] <Davespice> some people also cut up old credit cards and super glue a piece on with the numbers pointing down, that has a similar effect for creating more friction on the SD card pads
[19:11] <Davespice> http://raspi.tv/2012/how-to-fix-a-broken-sd-card-slot-on-your-raspberry-pi
[19:11] <Bilby> I feel like I'm the only one that hasn't experienced this <_< maybe I'm just not noticing >_>
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[19:11] <Davespice> none of mine have done it, although I've got one of the red chinese ones which I think is gonna start doing it soon
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[19:23] <devslash> I have the Raspberry PI Model B with 1GB ram. what is the maximum storage size that it can accept ?
[19:23] <devslash> for the Micro SD card
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[19:28] <devslash> is anyone here ?
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[19:29] <Encrypt> Yes :)
[19:29] <TheLostAdmin> sort of
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[19:30] <devslash> do you know what the max capacity of the model B pi is for the micro sd storage
[19:30] <Encrypt> devslash, You should check here before buying any SD Card: http://elinux.org/RPi_SD_cards
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[19:30] <devslash> ok thanks
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[19:30] <devslash> I think my sd card is going bad
[19:30] <Encrypt> devslash, Apparently, 64 GB works fine
[19:31] <Encrypt> And 64 GB is probably much more than what you plan to buy :D
[19:31] <devslash> 128GB as well apparently
[19:31] <devslash> I have a 32GB card now..
[19:31] <Encrypt> :]
[19:31] <devslash> so I'd like to up the capacity if I can..
[19:32] <t3chguy> devslash: I assume you mean the 2B then
[19:32] <TheLostAdmin> Personally, I prefer a smaller sd card with the boot and maybe root partitions (how I currently have it set-up) and using a USB stick for data. A different USB stick for swap (if I ever need swap). It cuts down on those catastrophic failures when flash is no longer writable.
[19:32] <Encrypt> +42
[19:33] <Encrypt> devslash, You should do it like TheLostAdmin suggests
[19:33] <devslash> seems that theres a 256GB card that works too but thats way too much for my needs (probably)
[19:33] <Encrypt> devslash, Or attach a 1TB hard drive: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19626172/RPi.jpg
[19:33] <Encrypt> :D
[19:33] <TheLostAdmin> My 2B has a 16GB card and that is way overkill in my setup.
[19:34] <devslash> thats what I do actually
[19:34] <Encrypt> This is also a good option :D
[19:34] <devslash> I don't need to store my media on the PI's storage
[19:34] <t3chguy> My 2B has a 64GB Sandisk Ultra MicroSDXC but that's because I had no other use for it
[19:35] <Encrypt> By the way
[19:35] <Encrypt> Do you know if another RPi is planned?
[19:35] <Encrypt> Any leak?
[19:35] <Encrypt> Because every time they say "it is the last one"
[19:36] <devslash> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/pny-64gb-microsdxc-class-10-uhs-i-u3-memory-card-multi/6163246.p $33 for 64GB SDHC
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[19:37] <TheLostAdmin> I have not heard anything about a next Pi. the 2B is pretty solid design. The only reason I see to change it is when it's time for hardware changes.
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[19:38] <Encrypt> Yes, I agree
[19:38] <Encrypt> TheLostAdmin, I plan to buy a Pi 2 this evening
[19:39] <Encrypt> Plus that: http://thepihut.com/collections/raspberry-pi-cases/products/flirc-raspberry-pi-b-case
[19:40] <TheLostAdmin> Encrypt: I've had mine for a few months now. It is worlds faster than the model 1.
[19:40] <Encrypt> TheLostAdmin, Well, I already run a web, mail, files & printer server on my Pi now :]
[19:41] <t3chguy> lol
[19:41] <t3chguy> if I install something lighter than Ubuntu Mate I could probably do that too xD
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[19:41] <Encrypt> I plan to add an asterisk server to build a GSM gateway (I'm going to Plymouth University next year, and I won't have roaming costs this way)
[19:41] <Encrypt> Plus an IRC server, DNS server...
[19:41] <Encrypt> And other stuff if it is possible
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[19:41] <Encrypt> I will see how much asterisk consumes
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[19:42] <Encrypt> t3chguy, I have no X server running :P
[19:42] <Encrypt> This is the reason
[19:42] <devslash> does the PI 2 support Ubuntu ?
[19:42] <t3chguy> I use my Pi just to SSH into servers
[19:42] <Encrypt> t3chguy, 'cause I have a 256MB model B (Chinese Edition ©)
[19:42] <t3chguy> devslash: Ubuntu Mate, yeah
[19:42] <t3chguy> lol
[19:43] <TheLostAdmin> I gave up running my own mail server ages ago. The services available are far too cost effective compared to admin time keeping things patched.
[19:43] <devslash> but thats only the newest PI right
[19:43] <t3chguy> devslash: in theory you can install any Distro if you compile it yourself
[19:43] <Encrypt> TheLostAdmin, Hum...
[19:43] <Encrypt> Once configured, I have had no problem...
[19:43] <t3chguy> TheLostAdmin: have a look at iRedMail ( a project I'm involved in )
[19:43] <devslash> IIRC Ubuntu doesn't support the ARM processor on my Model B PI
[19:43] <Encrypt> Postfix + Dovecot
[19:43] <t3chguy> it allows you to host mail yourself without issues
[19:43] <t3chguy> devslash: I'm running Ubuntu Mate 15.04 lol
[19:43] <Encrypt> Nice! :]
[19:43] <devslash> theres still one issue with self hosting mail
[19:43] <t3chguy> its an image listed on the RasPi downloads page
[19:44] <devslash> if you self host on a residential IP address, a lot of spam filters will detect a residential IP and block your email
[19:44] <t3chguy> well, they don't detect Residential, they detect non-custom PTR and dynamic IPs
[19:45] <devslash> no
[19:45] <t3chguy> if you get a Static IP at your home, and are able to change PTR you can host Mail without any flags
[19:45] <devslash> they have a database of residential ip address ranges
[19:45] <TheLostAdmin> t3chguy: what devslash pointed out. Plus, I would still need hardware. On the residential side, it's more expensive for me to get a static IP address from my ISP than it is to get a couple of mailboxes from my domain registrar and not have to deal with maintaining spam filters myself.
[19:46] <Encrypt> t3chguy, Dealing with my IP for my website was quite fun
[19:46] <CoJaBo> Has anyone ever tried to make/connect a FLiR camera to a Pi?
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[19:46] <Encrypt> Acutal .tk domain -> No-IP domain -> IP address
[19:46] <Encrypt> :D
[19:46] <Encrypt> Actual*
[19:46] <devslash> I tried running a mail server once. Sent an email to a Yahoo address which was bounced back to me. I did a little research and found out that Yahoo and a lot of other companies use a spam filtering service (cant remember the name) which blocks residential ip address ranges
[19:46] <t3chguy> Encrypt: dot.tk is a scam
[19:46] <Encrypt> Anyway, it works ©
[19:46] <CoJaBo> t3chguy: ..?
[19:46] <t3chguy> if your domain gets enough traffic they will redirect it to pornographic ads
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[19:46] <devslash> no .nigerianprice is a scam...
[19:47] <Apocx> I was thinking about that too when I saw the FLIRC case. I thought it was a case with built in FLiR capabilities. :(
[19:47] <Encrypt> t3chguy, I've never had this problem
[19:47] <Apocx> A FLiR Pi would be cool
[19:47] <CoJaBo> t3chguy: ..why would you use a free domain with "much traffic" lol?
[19:47] <t3chguy> Encrypt: how many daily views?
[19:47] <Encrypt> Hum
[19:47] <Encrypt> Let me check
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[19:47] <CoJaBo> Apocx: I'm seeing stuff about a very few people doing it, but the sensors they use are expensive and terrible...
[19:48] <Encrypt> t3chguy, ~ 25/day
[19:48] <Apocx> Yeah
[19:48] <Encrypt> ~25 visitors* / day
[19:48] <t3chguy> I think the trigger point is 1000/week
[19:49] <CoJaBo> There's a product for iphones (everythign ready to go, hardware and software) that has 8× the resolution and is HALF the cost of the bare sensor... wtf?
[19:49] <Encrypt> t3chguy, I'll change of registar at this moment :D
[19:50] <t3chguy> if you want a cheap domain without any issues ever
[19:50] <t3chguy> get a .ovh
[19:50] <CoJaBo> ..hell, there's used ones for $50
[19:50] <CoJaBo> t3chguy: .tk is free
[19:51] <CoJaBo> If you want a cheap domain, get a .com
[19:51] <t3chguy> I know, thus it can do such scams
[19:51] <Encrypt> Another option could be to set a platform somewhere on the sea
[19:51] <Encrypt> Add a webserver
[19:51] <Encrypt> Create a state
[19:51] <Encrypt> Get a tld \o/
[19:51] <CoJaBo> lol
[19:51] <Encrypt> Give away domains for free! :D
[19:52] <CoJaBo> Encrypt: You don't need to be a sovereign state to get a TLD anymore tho; you can just buy them now
[19:52] <Encrypt> But I imagine it is quite expensive at first
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[19:52] <Encrypt> CoJaBo, Really? (O.o)
[19:52] <Encrypt> That mush be super expensive
[19:52] <Encrypt> must*
[19:52] <CoJaBo> Yes, really; they're expensive indeed, 6-7 figures
[19:52] <Encrypt> :D
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[19:53] <Bilby> Isn't the application fee $100,000 or something?
[19:53] <CoJaBo> Most major companies now have their own TLD; but why?
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[19:54] <Encrypt> "The IANA is a non profit-making society" they said
[19:54] <Bilby> sure, doesn't mean the executives can't make bank though :|
[19:54] <Encrypt> I imagine there is no mathematics proof of that
[19:54] <Encrypt> Bilby, :D
[19:54] <Bilby> If I make a million dollars as a company and my salary is $1000000.01, boom, lost money this year didn't we?
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[19:55] <Encrypt> Or maybe... the society itself is non profit-making...
[19:55] <Encrypt> ... but not the members? :D
[19:56] <Bilby> aka the NFL
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[20:00] <mattrichardson> Apocx, CoJaBo: How about this: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/13233
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[20:01] <CoJaBo> mattrichardson: It costs twice as much, with an eighth the resolution, as the "ready-to-go" phone module; the value just isn't there..
[20:01] <CoJaBo> Crazy..
[20:02] <Apocx> Yeah I've seen that module before
[20:02] <Apocx> Not a fan of the resolution
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[20:03] <CoJaBo> Is there anything else that's decent?
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[20:05] <mattrichardson> Not that I know of. Does FLIR make the cell phone version you're talking about?
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[20:05] <mattrichardson> Is it this one? http://www.flir.com/flirone/
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[20:10] <CoJaBo> mattrichardson: Made by "Seek"
[20:10] <Apocx> FLiR One looks pretty good but it still has a 80x60 resolution as well on the thermal sensor. But it overlays it on the 640x480 camera sensor so it looks higher resolution than it is
[20:11] <Apocx> Wonder if a Pi with a regular camera and a thermal camera overlayed would look decent
[20:11] <mgbowman> just got 12 shairport-sync zones running on my rpi2
[20:11] <mattrichardson> CoJaBo, Apocx Ah! OK.
[20:11] <CoJaBo> It's 200×160 or something
[20:11] <CoJaBo> Which is quite a deal higher than 80x60. And it's half the cost
[20:11] <mattrichardson> What are you looking to do with thermal imaging on RPi? I've been curious about it.
[20:11] <Apocx> Yeah that's pretty crazy
[20:12] <CoJaBo> mattrichardson: I dunno yet
[20:12] <bhez> I got to play with a flir 640x480 camera not too long ago, really nice.
[20:12] <Apocx> I just wanted to play around with it
[20:12] * CoJaBo same
[20:12] <Apocx> maybe see if it'd make a decent security camera system
[20:12] <bhez> the ones that are higher end than that come with cryogenic camera cooling systems
[20:12] <Apocx> I have a problem with my regular security cams picking up trees/bugs in its motion detection
[20:12] <CoJaBo> Commercial ones used to be something like $10,000
[20:12] <Apocx> so I get a lot of false positives
[20:13] <Apocx> "Detects intruders from nearly 1,800ft away"
[20:13] <Apocx> Badass
[20:13] <bhez> 80x60 pixels is ridiculously low
[20:13] <CoJaBo> Soo many things could do with one, but I'm not buying something that overpriced :/
[20:13] <Apocx> Agreed
[20:13] <Apocx> On both points :P
[20:13] <mattrichardson> Got it. Good to know.
[20:14] <CoJaBo> I could deal with 80x60; I can't deal with 80x60 being twice as expensive as 200×160
[20:14] <bhez> yeah
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[20:14] <Apocx> Since it is just microusb I wonder if I could make the Seek camera interface with the Pi
[20:14] <CoJaBo> Would be challenging with no docs :/
[20:15] <Apocx> There will be an SDK later this summer apparently, so that could help
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[20:17] <CoJaBo> ..that would definitely be useful lol
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[20:31] <SyncYourDogmas> Apocx: machine learning sounds like a proper solution, or if thats overkill a movement threshhold?
[20:31] <SyncYourDogmas> For leaves probelm. Dennis nedry had the same issue in the original JP btw
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[20:36] <Apocx> Heh true he did. Loved that book, as well as the movie
[20:36] <Apocx> Honestly leaves are as big an issue as the bugs. I can make it ignore the foliage areas decently enough
[20:36] <Apocx> The bugs are attracted to the IR light and get real close so it overcomes the sensitivity threshold
[20:36] <Apocx> Need to setup a separate IR source further away I guess
[20:39] <Apocx> aren't* as big an issue
[20:42] <SyncYourDogmas> Sounds fascinating
[20:42] <SyncYourDogmas> Is this in python?
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[20:44] <Apocx> No just a generic security camera. It looks at the pixel data to detect changes, which is why its motion detection kind of sucks
[20:44] <Apocx> http://www.amazon.com/Hikvision-DS-2CD2032-I-Outdoor-Bullet-Security/dp/B00G7GMEOG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1438195432&sr=8-1&keywords=hikvision&pebp=1438195441815&perid=0XDKTAHQCJM4587EH6KT
[20:45] <Apocx> The camera itself it great though
[20:45] <Apocx> I was just thinking it'd be cool to supplement it with a thermal camera to detect motion which could trigger that camera to record etc
[20:46] <Apocx> since PIR and such don't have that kind of range
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[20:55] <SyncYourDogmas> It most definietly would be cool
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[20:56] <SyncYourDogmas> I have the cam for the pi 2, no idea what to use it for though
[20:56] <SyncYourDogmas> Block of flats so cant use it as a security cam
[20:56] <Apocx> the pi camera module?
[20:57] <SyncYourDogmas> Yeah
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[20:57] <Apocx> I used one of those for an RFID/biometric entry system. Snaps pictures of whoever accessed the door
[20:57] <Apocx> but other than that I have no idea what I'd use it for heh
[20:58] <SyncYourDogmas> Did that work well? Even google has problems with face recognition
[20:58] <Apocx> it was for an interior door so nothing really security related, just to track who entered the server room and to keep the less technical people out
[20:58] <Apocx> didn't use it for face recognition
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[20:58] <SyncYourDogmas> Maybe to timelapse trees, or record foxes at night
[20:58] <Apocx> just to take a picture of their face when they used rfid/fingerprint sensor to open the door
[20:58] <SyncYourDogmas> Ah right
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[20:59] <Apocx> yeah I kind of want to setup a game camera in my backyard
[20:59] <SyncYourDogmas> Hmm, at night with low light probably not great actually
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[20:59] <SyncYourDogmas> A game camera?
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[21:00] <Apocx> Yeah, interested to see what critters come out at night. My backyard is right against a few acres of forest
[21:00] <Apocx> I see eyes occasionally, probably deer/fox but still be cool to take video of them
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[21:00] <Apocx> don't think I'd use the Pi camera module though
[21:01] <SyncYourDogmas> No
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[21:01] <Apocx> That'd be another neat project for a thermal cam/night vision cam combination
[21:02] <SyncYourDogmas> Theres often military aircrart above me, and majority of helicopters in London fly near me
[21:02] <SyncYourDogmas> I might use it to somehow detect and record those
[21:02] <Apocx> Yeah we get a lot of military aircraft as well, mostly blackhawks
[21:02] <Apocx> rarely a chinook. and lots of small civilian aircraft
[21:03] <Apocx> not far from an airport
[21:03] <SyncYourDogmas> all helos have to fly over the thames, normally
[21:04] <SyncYourDogmas> I get apaches once ina blue moon
[21:04] <Apocx> buddy of mine was trying to use radio receivers to listen in on the aviation radio traffic. that'd be cool too
[21:04] <Apocx> yeah
[21:04] <SyncYourDogmas> Mm Id be wary of legality
[21:05] <Apocx> don't think there are any legal issues. planes have to be able to communicate with one another because the airport has no ATC. don't think listening in to civilian traffic is against the law
[21:05] <mattrichardson> Lots of people use Raspberry Pi + SDR to track aircraft: http://flightaware.com/adsb/piaware/
[21:05] <t3chguy> get an SW Defined Radio and they can't prove that you were tuned into their frequencies
[21:06] <Apocx> yeah he was using a SW defined radio
[21:06] <t3chguy> very powerful bits of kit
[21:06] <t3chguy> can do so much with so little
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[21:07] <Apocx> yeah I should get one and mess with it
[21:07] <Apocx> I've kind of wanted to make something to put in the car that will scan FM frequencies and look for new signals. i.e. new radio stations coming in to range, or when people with ipods + fm transmitters are nearby :P
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[21:08] <Apocx> I have an FM transmitter bluetooth device for my android phone, my coworker said he could tune in and listen to it for a good couple hundred feet as I was driving away
[21:09] <TheLostAdmin> I've had one of those for years, Apocx. It's a button on the radio with the word "Scan" printed on it. Skips through all in-range stations until I tell it to stop.
[21:09] <t3chguy> Apocx: think of all the WiFi signals that'd trigger it
[21:09] <Apocx> True ;)
[21:09] <Apocx> But I mean something automated
[21:09] <Apocx> set it and forget it
[21:09] <Apocx> Yeah I suppose
[21:10] <Apocx> could constrain it to tradtional FM frequencies, 88-120 etc
[21:10] <SyncYourDogmas> I love near heathowtoo... will check this out then
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[21:13] <Apocx> I'll probably never make half the projects I want to make for time/motivation reasons, but they're fun to think up
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[21:13] <Apocx> also financial costs
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[21:18] <SyncYourDogmas> Ive got some software ones to do first :)
[21:18] <Apocx> Yeah I've got even more software projects planned heh. But it's nice to take a break and work at the hardware level sometimes
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[21:28] <ldc> I think I've bricked my rPI with three lines of C :/
[21:29] <ldc> http://pastebin.com/ULk16Ur5
[21:30] <ldc> it crashed and it's not coming back up, solid red/green LEDs and no network nor hdmi
[21:30] <Kamilion> what's gpio 44?
[21:30] <ldc> no idea, I was probing for DHT11 sensors so I made a C things that takes argv0
[21:30] <Apocx> you try unplugging it for a minute or two and plugging it back in?
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[21:31] <ldc> then I launched a for i in {1..60} do sudo ./mything $i
[21:31] <ldc> Apocx: I'll try
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[21:34] <ldc> Apocx: and it lives again :)
[21:34] <Apocx> yay!
[21:34] <ldc> hate this non deterministic behaviour, wait a few minutes :D
[21:35] <Apocx> hehe
[21:35] <ldc> probably some register had to really discharge
[21:35] <Apocx> yeah
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[21:54] <Kamilion> ldc: I was gonna suggest plugging something with an LED into the USB host ports and draining the capacitors the whole way...
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[21:55] <ldc> will do that next time I crash it :p
[21:55] <Kamilion> I use a old keyboard dongle I've lost the keyboard to
[21:55] <Kamilion> it tries to flicker it's amber LED as soon as it gets power
[21:55] <Kamilion> <--- works in a warehouse testing/repairing systems
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[21:56] <Kamilion> draining off capacitors is something I'm used to :)
[21:56] <Kamilion> especally when there's bios passwords to clear
[21:57] <t3chguy> just short a resistor over Vcc and Gnd
[21:57] <t3chguy> cap gets emptied much quicker and only product is barely noticeable heat
[21:57] <Kamilion> for a pi, sure
[21:57] <Kamilion> for a 1.4KW server, I'd be kind of wary
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[21:58] <Kamilion> sometimes these things stay running for 3-4 seconds after being unplugged
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[21:59] <k_j> what's the default pi password on raspbian?
[21:59] <Kamilion> iirc, raspberry
[21:59] <Kamilion> or blank on at least one image I have
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[22:00] <ldc> H1: 32.0%
[22:00] <ldc> H2: 39.0%
[22:00] <ldc> H delta: 7.0%
[22:00] <ldc> damn these dht11 suck :o
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[22:13] <Encrypt> http://wickedaluminum.com/collections/frontpage/products/pi-holder-bplus-case
[22:13] <Encrypt> "$ 64.99"
[22:13] <Encrypt> http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/
[22:14] <Encrypt> Please press, for me.
[22:14] <Encrypt> :D
[22:15] <t3chguy> that case is pretty neat
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[22:16] <t3chguy> if they had a Blue one I'd have ordered one
[22:16] <ldc> "Took some time to get successful 0.1mm layer prints via gluestick and then... all for nothing. The power supply of this printer set the attic room on fire and burned/melted most of the hardware, tools, documents and utilities. NEVER trust any machine!! Result: Catastrophic failure"
[22:16] <ldc> lol
[22:16] <Encrypt> t3chguy, I have one
[22:16] <t3chguy> nice
[22:16] <Encrypt> t3chguy, But for the 2010 model B
[22:16] <Encrypt> Unfortunately, a Pi 2 won't fit in :''(
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[22:17] <Encrypt> Mine has a skull engraved on it
[22:17] <Encrypt> As you say, it's neat :]
[22:17] <ldc> are Model B+ at 19 eur a good price?
[22:17] <ldc> I was thinking about getting some more
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[22:20] <Apocx> o.O What is that from ldc?
[22:20] <ldc> http://www.ebay.it/itm/221757807168?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
[22:20] <ldc> I'm playing with one right now. they're legit, straight from element14 in box
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[22:57] <t3chguy> hmm, so removing ecryptfs, and lowering the voltage by 0.1V I managed to get my idle temps down by 5C
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[23:11] <ldc> are temps such a critical thing on rpi?
[23:11] <iron_manaf> I feel like they aren't unless you're doing some pretty high overclocking?
[23:12] <ldc> eh
[23:13] <SyncYourDogmas> Not in a temperate climate
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[23:19] <iron_manaf> I saw someone doing water cooling on their pi, seemed really overkill
[23:20] <ShadowJK> extremely
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[23:25] <SyncYourDogmas> If your case wad totally waterproof and trapped heat, then it could be a concern
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[23:36] <k_j> what is the foundation working on now? will be there any surprises after september?
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[23:42] <ldc> sandisk ultra decent enough for rPI?
[23:42] <iron_manaf> yea i use one in mine runs fine
[23:42] <t3chguy> I use one too
[23:43] <t3chguy> one of the microSDXC Class 10 64GBs
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[23:44] <ldc> great
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[23:48] <t3chguy> hmm, I think my GPU performance is crap because only 64MB is being allocated to the GPU
[23:48] <t3chguy> especially on Ubuntu Mate, quite a graphically heavy Desktop Environment thats way too little, right?
[23:48] * nextime is fighting with kicad trying to migrate from eagle
[23:51] <t3chguy> gonna triple it and test youtube performance again
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[23:57] <t3chguy> switching to the html player made more differences, its still not perfect though :/
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