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IRC Log for 2015-07-31

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[0:00] <Kamilion> http://www.ebay.com/itm/LSF1211CS-Megapixel-Focal-Length-12mm-Camera-Lens-/271471309021
[0:00] <Kamilion> and CS-mount lenses.
[0:01] <Kamilion> parityDrive: do your research, spend a week or two goofing off in thoughtville, and you'll end up with a security camera that sucks much less than a off-the-shelf model.
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[0:01] <Kamilion> My boss declined to allow me to build the full set of 12
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[0:02] <Kamilion> spent $1199 on a SWANN 8-cam power-over-ethernet system.
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[0:02] <Kamilion> I'll put it this way -- even though it can be accessed from it's ethernet port?
[0:02] <Kamilion> IT ONLY SUPPORTS NUMERIC PINS FOR LOGIN
[0:03] <Kamilion> so there's no chance in heck I'd give it a public-facing IP.
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[0:05] <Kamilion> If you want it to be 'secure' in the sense that an idiot with the skills to pick a numerical combination lock to someone's locker in highschool can get into your camera system, by all means, by the off the shell stuff. If you want it to be actually secure (ssh keys?), do it yourself for about the same cost.
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[0:05] <Kamilion> Just be warned, you'll spend a month or two's worth of time fiddling with it.
[0:05] <parityDrive> i'm going the pi route
[0:05] <parityDrive> don't worry.
[0:06] <Kamilion> but it's definitely so worth it. :3
[0:06] <Kamilion> also
[0:06] <Kamilion> having one of these around is useful
[0:06] <Kamilion> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Spy-Camera-Module-1-4-Inch-5-Mega-pixel-Sensor-flex-cable-Raspberry-Pi-/271815338211
[0:06] <Kamilion> i used it just the other day to track down a screw that had fallen below a table.
[0:07] <parityDrive> I just want to have it for night vision
[0:07] <Kamilion> i ended up just buying one of those, myself.
[0:07] <Kamilion> it's the only picam I have :<
[0:08] <Kamilion> and it's so flimsy I'm worried I'm gonna wreck it every time, lol
[0:08] <SpeedEvil> Boroscope is awesomely handy
[0:08] <BilbyMac> Can confirm, killed picam after 2 uses
[0:08] <BilbyMac> I couldn’t get it working, finally got it working… next time, ded
[0:08] <Kamilion> i've wanted to mess with optical grade fiber optics like used in surgery cameras, but...
[0:08] <SpeedEvil> Saves having to find a spare 4-year-old for tight spaces.
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[0:09] <BilbyMac> the problem with 4 year olds is that it takes 4 years to grow a new one
[0:10] <ldc> by the way, is there a raspberry pi camera
[0:10] <ldc> capable of doing it all?
[0:10] <Kamilion> such a shame too, I could have had 12 cameras for the price we paid for 8 and a semi-worthless "NVR" with a USB harddrive attached to it.
[0:10] <ldc> like, infrared at night
[0:10] <ldc> and normal vision during day
[0:10] <Kamilion> absolutely.
[0:10] <ldc> like a foscam IP camera or similar
[0:10] <SpeedEvil> ldc: there are lenses with switchable IR cut filters
[0:10] <Kamilion> the trick is where the IR coating is
[0:10] <Kamilion> on some chips, the IR coating is on the OVF sensor
[0:11] <Kamilion> on some, it's supposed to be on the lens
[0:11] <SpeedEvil> http://www.dx.com/p/ir-cut-dual-filter-switcher-for-cctv-camera-black-373350
[0:11] <Kamilion> simple act of marrying an uncoated sensor with an uncoated lens.
[0:11] <BilbyMac> the cheapie swann analog cameras i use for some people have them. they go *click* *click*
[0:11] <Kamilion> what you DO need though, is some code to watch the whitebalance and exposure
[0:11] <ldc> aha nice
[0:12] <Kamilion> SpeedEvil: hmm, didn't see that before. But it doesn't specify which lens mount that is :<
[0:12] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Coherent-40W-808nm-Laser-Diode-Bar-DPSS-Pump-TESTED-and-GUARANTEED-/111192372990?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e394f6fe - when your normal IR illuminator isn't cutting it
[0:12] <SpeedEvil> Kamilion: no - I have no idea - dimensions might be nice
[0:12] <Kamilion> oh, it covers the sensor directly
[0:13] <Kamilion> look at the second picture
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[0:13] <Kamilion> it *is* a lens mount adapter in itself
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[0:13] <SpeedEvil> yes - but will it fit on the Pi - I have no idea, or could it be made to...
[0:13] <Kamilion> so that might not fit our OVH5647
[0:14] <SpeedEvil> Of course, with a knife, you've got a ~2mm thick IR shutter
[0:14] <Kamilion> i had to do a loooooooot of research to figure out what parts stacked how
[0:14] <SpeedEvil> Add hotmelt to stabilise it
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[0:14] <BilbyMac> <dave> hotsnot </dave>
[0:14] <Kamilion> http://www.dxsoul.com/product/replacement-auto-iris-zoom-ir-infrared-lens-for-cctv-camera-5-100mm-901054103
[0:15] <Kamilion> and DX definitely has some interesting lenses.
[0:15] <Kamilion> figuring out that interface connector, on the other hand, looks a bit more difficult
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[0:16] <Kamilion> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dual-Array-Infrared-IR-Photosensitive-2pcs-60-degree-LED-Board-for-CS-M12-Mount/252005458083
[0:17] <SpeedEvil> Kamilion: naah
[0:17] <SpeedEvil> It's four wires
[0:18] <SpeedEvil> I'm betting two entirely isolated wires
[0:18] <SpeedEvil> for a solenoid for iris and a motor for zoom
[0:18] <SpeedEvil> Also - soul?
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[0:22] <Kamilion> SpeedEvil: aha
[0:22] <Kamilion> http://www.ebay.com/itm/IR-CUT-CS-Mount-Lens-8Mp-HP-Dual-Filter-Switcher-IPC-AHD-Camera-Module-2-/400938136794?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d59c674da
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[0:23] <Kamilion> which plugs into http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dual-Array-Infrared-IR-Photosensitive-LED-Board-CS-M12-Mount-Camera-Lens-/400938137628
[0:23] <Kamilion> into the "IR" connector
[0:23] <Kamilion> and the whole thing is fed +12v separately to power the LEDs
[0:23] <Kamilion> no GPIOs needed
[0:24] <SpeedEvil> 6W?
[0:24] <SpeedEvil> Gonna need a fan
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[0:37] <t3chguy> Well
[0:37] <t3chguy> some good news
[0:37] <t3chguy> fresh Mate image has DPMS
[0:37] <t3chguy> imma keep going on the steps I used to configure my other Image
[0:37] <t3chguy> until it breaks that
[0:37] <t3chguy> then I can report it respectively
[0:37] <t3chguy> then time to re-image my main card :L
[0:37] <BilbyMac> ah, nice, try it
[0:38] <BilbyMac> good luck
[0:38] <t3chguy> at least it works in the stock image
[0:38] <t3chguy> thats good
[0:38] <t3chguy> because it means I don't have to make it work myself
[0:38] <t3chguy> I'm happy enough with Mate to stay with it rather than facilitating a switch to Cinnamon or KDE
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[0:41] <Kamilion> I'm working on getting a lubuntu image together.
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[1:27] <lickalott_> hey all. Trying to install armory on raspbian but I'm getting a ton of dependency fails that I can't seem to get beyond. Does anyone have any experience with this?
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[1:28] <BilbyMac> you downloaded it from the site, or are you going through apt-get ?
[1:28] <lickalott_> i downloaded the offline bundle from the site
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[1:30] <lickalott_> BilbyMac, I don't see it through apt-get.
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[1:35] <Bilby> lickalott_, I'm not sure they have a repository available
[1:35] <Bilby> what dependancies is it talkign about?
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[1:36] <lickalott_> lib4qt-sql for 1. But there are multiple. the deb files are in the offline bundle but won't install either.
[1:37] <Bilby> hmm
[1:37] <Bilby> apt get update / upgrade first?
[1:37] <lickalott_> true
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[1:38] <lickalott_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11970171/
[1:38] <lickalott_> one sample
[1:39] <Bilby> it looks like it's trying to grab dependancies it can't
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[1:41] <Bilby> which is weird. i'd ask if you accidentally downloaded the x86 build but it wouldn't even get that far
[1:42] <Bilby> Try this -> http://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/2r0efj/notes_on_putting_bitcoin_armory_on_a_raspberry_pi/
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[1:55] <lickalott_> HA. I had that open reading. I need to reset, breathe, and try again tomorrow.
[1:55] <lickalott_> thanks for the assist!
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[2:09] <Bilby> lickalott_ you're welcome, good luck!
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[2:23] <ozzzy> http://i.imgur.com/5flmIpp.png
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[2:34] <Zephyr1138> Can I install multiple OSes from NOOBS onto the same SD card and dual boot between them?
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[2:35] <pksato> NOOBS is a tool tp easy install and boot multiple OSs
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[4:52] <Rudayb> Hello
[4:55] <Rudayb> Has anyone made push to talk work on linphone?
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[4:56] <elladon> I don't know what to do with my rpi. There it is, then what?
[4:57] <elladon> it sucks at everything, lol
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[5:15] <ldc> elladon: nah
[5:15] <ldc> it doesn't suck at all
[5:15] <elladon> so what do you do with it?
[5:16] <ldc> elladon: nothing I watch it running linux
[5:16] <Rudayb> Get a banana Pi and run a NAS on it
[5:16] <ldc> sometimes ssh into it
[5:16] <ldc> uname -a;id;uptime
[5:16] <SyncYourDogmas> Run emulated networks
[5:16] <ldc> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[5:16] <ldc> just to feel it alive
[5:16] <ldc> :D
[5:16] <ldc> jokes aside, I'm turning my rPI into a PoE powered weather station
[5:16] <ldc> to be mounted outdoors
[5:17] <elladon> does rPI have PoE?
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[5:17] <SyncYourDogmas> Use it for bots, openvpn, ssh tunnels, networking monitoring with IDS
[5:17] <SyncYourDogmas> NAS
[5:17] <ldc> elladon: no but you can implement it easily
[5:17] <elladon> lol, piNAS, terrible.
[5:17] <SyncYourDogmas> I had to buy a second lol
[5:18] <SyncYourDogmas> elladon: depends on file type, weekly backups etc its fine
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[5:52] <JakeSays> ok so i have a c library i want to build as a .so - how do i go about doing that?
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[6:01] <JakeSays> heh. n/m. that was easy enough
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[6:31] <JakeSays> hmm. i have an open collector output rated at 50v, 100ma. i want to connect a motor at 5v, 135ma.
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[6:54] <SyncYourDogmas> Hah
[6:54] <SyncYourDogmas> Anymore code questions Im here
[6:54] <SyncYourDogmas> Electronics, not a clue
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[6:56] <JungleBoogie> well what's your favorite language, SyncYourDogmas
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[6:57] <SyncYourDogmas> Python at the moment
[6:57] <JungleBoogie> that seems very common and popular
[6:57] <SyncYourDogmas> Excellent timing for discovering raspberry pis :)
[6:58] <SyncYourDogmas> It does seem to be doing well recently. Whats yours?
[6:58] <JungleBoogie> well i've only needed awk to solve my problems
[6:59] <JungleBoogie> could have been done in perl or python (and people told me to use those) but awk works very well
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[6:59] <JungleBoogie> i do have perl and python books with the desire to learn the language
[7:00] <SyncYourDogmas> Python is pretty great, can do most things with ease
[7:01] <JungleBoogie> yes, that's what everyone says these days
[7:01] <SyncYourDogmas> Im messing about with writing routing protocols, load balancers etc on a vm of 20 nodes on a pi
[7:01] <SyncYourDogmas> But every direction pretty much
[7:02] <ThinkingofPython> :D
[7:02] <ThinkingofPython> Python
[7:02] <ThinkingofPython> wooo
[7:02] <JungleBoogie> and you're doing that with python and not something like c?
[7:03] <SyncYourDogmas> Nah C is far too low for this high an abstraction, for production code perhaps
[7:04] <SyncYourDogmas> Python also calls C often in its libraries
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[7:05] <SyncYourDogmas> Also think of any possible topic..
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[7:06] <ThinkingofPython> I program in Python and ANSI C
[7:06] <SyncYourDogmas> Libraries for say irc https://pypi.python.org/pypi?%3Aaction=search&term=Irc&submit=search
[7:07] <SyncYourDogmas> Just browsing that site makes me wanna code
[7:07] <SyncYourDogmas> ThinkingofPython: embedding C in python directly?
[7:07] <ThinkingofPython> nope
[7:09] <SyncYourDogmas> Ah so calling C programs? Or just not mixing them at all
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[7:11] <ThinkingofPython> Sorry
[7:11] <ThinkingofPython> I program in python, as well as ANSI C.
[7:11] <ThinkingofPython> ANSI C for Gameboy
[7:12] <ThinkingofPython> and Python for Pi
[7:12] <ThinkingofPython> heh
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[7:13] <SyncYourDogmas> Makes sense :)
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[7:14] <Kamilion> https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/book/rust-inside-other-languages.html#python <-- yeah, python's great at calling other stuff.
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[7:35] <JakeSays> i have a k8055 usb board connected to my pi. it has 8 outputs, rated 50v/100ma, but i need to drive a motor at 5v/135ma. will that be much of an issue?
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[8:11] <totalconfusion_> Hey guys, I'm trying to get an external 3.3v source into one of my Pi's GPIO pins as an input. I am comfortable doing this with a pushbutton and the 3.3 rail on the pi, but I've never put an external supply into my pi before. do I need resistors and diodes?
[8:14] <ThinkingofPython> what's the 3V power for?
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[8:19] <totalconfusion_> as as input for the pi
[8:19] <totalconfusion_> more specifically I need to perform an action when the signal goes LOW
[8:19] <totalconfusion_> I just haven't put another power source into one before and figured I'd ask
[8:20] <totalconfusion_> and thank you ThinkingofPython
[8:21] <ThinkingofPython> I believe the Pi is 5v lol
[8:22] <ShorTie> No
[8:22] <ThinkingofPython> but I don't quite understand what you want to do with it
[8:22] <ThinkingofPython> so maybe someone else can help
[8:22] <ShorTie> make sure you hook the grounds together
[8:23] <SyncYourDogmas> Im sure itd 5v - compatible with eu phone chargers I thought
[8:23] <ShorTie> and ya, resistor to limit current would most likely be a good idea
[8:23] <ShorTie> No
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[8:23] <ShorTie> gpio pins are 3.3v
[8:24] <SyncYourDogmas> Ah. Im guessing doing both at once aint great for it
[8:24] <totalconfusion_> ThinkingofPython, I believe you're incorrect about the GPIO pins being 5v, they are 3.3v. the unit iteslf is 5v
[8:25] <ThinkingofPython> Yes, I stated this totalconfusion_
[8:25] <totalconfusion_> ShorTie, what do you mean, hook the grounds together?
[8:25] <ThinkingofPython> because I don't quite understand your usage xD
[8:25] <totalconfusion_> oh, my apologies.
[8:25] <totalconfusion_> I want to watch an input pin and when it goes LOW (turns off) - then my code runs
[8:26] <totalconfusion_> ShorTie, is this what you would call a pull up or pull down resistor?
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[8:29] <ShorTie> nop, not a pull up or pull down resistor, in series as a current limiter
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[8:32] <totalconfusion_> I'm glad you said that, I was a bit iffy on that bit
[8:32] <totalconfusion_> and if I set my gpio as an input, it'll automatically have pull up resistor activated by the pi, yes?
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[8:33] <totalconfusion_> I understand we are putting the resistor in series (in-line?) so it's NOT an open circuit if accidentally set as an output
[8:34] <totalconfusion_> ShorTie,
[8:34] <ShorTie> a basic input doesn't need a pull up or pull down resistor
[8:34] <totalconfusion_> on account of it just doesn't need it. or because the raspi has internal pull ups?
[8:35] <ShorTie> just doesn't need it
[8:35] <totalconfusion_> thanks
[8:36] <totalconfusion_> but if i were to accidentally set it as an output with no resistor? that'd be quite bad yea?
[8:37] <totalconfusion_> may I ask what kind of resistor you think is appropriate? I've got a 3.3v source
[8:37] <ShorTie> most likely not, but don't hold me to that
[8:37] * ShorTie still hafe a sleep
[8:38] <totalconfusion_> just read this "Strictly there is no need for a pull-up resistor, the BMC GPIO has internal pull-up resistors which are activated when programmed as an input, although it does no harm."
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[8:39] <totalconfusion_> does it matter what value this in series resistor has?
[8:42] <ShorTie> your looking for volt and not much current, so something like a 10k should be ok
[8:44] <totalconfusion_> got it in the drawer, great!
[8:45] <totalconfusion_> yeah im very small current
[8:45] <totalconfusion_> no diode, just 1 resistor, program as input
[8:45] <totalconfusion_> thanks!
[8:45] <ShorTie> just make sure to tie the grounds together
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[10:06] <shiftplusone> ali1234: yeah, it's just unfortunate that all of the astropi and jessie stuff is happening at once and both are high priority, so it's a little difficult right now. Plus by the time I package something, there's something new to add. I think doing the minimum to get a nightly jessie image building and then going back to the new things is the way to go.
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[10:41] <tjcarter> I seem not to have a parse-edid
[10:42] <SyncYourDogmas> What do you need it for?
[10:42] <tjcarter> Basically non-Debian Raspberry Pi packages have no package descriptions
[10:43] <tjcarter> I'm trying to see if I can actually get 1:1 pixel on this screen
[10:43] <SyncYourDogmas> Lol
[10:43] <tjcarter> I think that I probably can't
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[10:44] <SyncYourDogmas> I recently discovered blessed, great wrapper for low level stufg, opposite of what you probably want though
[10:45] <SyncYourDogmas> tjcarter: are you any good with nmap?
[10:45] <tjcarter> This TV claims to be 1080p. It's a 19" Magnavox that retails < $130 two years ago.
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[10:46] <tjcarter> 1080p my ass :)
[10:47] <tjcarter> I've used it. I dunno how "good" that makes me.
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[10:47] <tjcarter> Anyway, I got it into CEA mode 4, but pixels are clearly NOT 1:1
[10:48] <SyncYourDogmas> Would you mind scanning my pi? No worries if not. All the website based ones are crap
[10:49] <SyncYourDogmas> If it ever finishes compiling lxml
[10:49] <tjcarter> I don't have it installed here, gimme a second
[10:50] * tjcarter notes that aptitude sucks even on a Core i5 at 3.2 GHz
[10:50] <SyncYourDogmas> No worries. Still compiling python lxml, 20+ mins
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[10:51] <tjcarter> anyway, I don't have a way to parse the edid file out of tvservice because parse-edid seems not to be installed
[10:51] <tjcarter> I don't know what package it comes from
[10:52] <SyncYourDogmas> Ansii colours are as low as I go termwise. I do abuse them plenty though
[10:54] <tjcarter> I suspect this screen is not 1280x720 but 1366x720
[10:55] <tjcarter> or rather 1366 x 768
[10:56] <tjcarter> actually I'll bet that's exactly what it is.
[10:57] <SyncYourDogmas> There are libs like blessed that will tell you that
[10:58] <tjcarter> No blessed in Raspbian
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[11:00] <SyncYourDogmas> There is on mine in pip
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[11:01] <tjcarter> pip isn't Raspbian any more than cpan is
[11:01] * tjcarter looks in pip
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[11:02] <SyncYourDogmas> Nope, handy though. I had to install some dev packages to build lxml
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[11:06] <shiftplusone> tjcarter: read-edid: /usr/bin/parse-edid
[11:06] <shiftplusone> (courtesy of apt-file search)
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[11:08] <SyncYourDogmas> I a.ways use apt-cache, any notable difference?
[11:09] <SyncYourDogmas> Cache being local I presume...
[11:09] <tjcarter> yeah I discovered that finally. The package says it doesn't work on anything but x86 or ppc.
[11:09] <tjcarter> thanks shiftplusone
[11:09] <tjcarter> It doesn't however output useful information. *sigh*
[11:10] <tjcarter> it outputs less than tvservice -m actually
[11:10] <shiftplusone> SyncYourDogmas: apt-cache searches for packages, apt-file searches for files within packages.
[11:10] <tjcarter> 1080p mode which is obvious BS and 720x480.
[11:10] <shiftplusone> well, apt-cache does a lot more than just search for packages, but that's what it's mostly used for.
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[11:11] <tjcarter> tvservice -m DMT lists 640x480
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[11:14] <SyncYourDogmas> shiftplusone: ah thats useful to know, cheers
[11:15] <SyncYourDogmas> tjcarter: how many ports would you be up for scanning?
[11:15] <shiftplusone> handy when you get a "command derp not found", but derp doesn't come from a package named derp. Then you do apt-file search bin/derp and it will tell you where it's actually from.
[11:15] <tjcarter> tvservice -m CEA lists 640x480, 720x480, 720x480 16:9, 1280x720, 1920x1080i, 720x480i, 720x480i 16:9, and a couple more 1088p modes with weird clocks
[11:19] <tjcarter> None of those things is the real mode of this panel.
[11:20] <SyncYourDogmas> You could write C im sure to iterate over all pixels
[11:21] <tjcarter> what's a "pixel"?
[11:21] <tjcarter> this is lower level than that.
[11:22] <tjcarter> this is about the kernel being able to define the size of a pixel and how many there are.
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[11:22] <SyncYourDogmas> Ugh, im happy being way above that
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[11:23] <tjcarter> I would be happy being way above that if I could native video output.
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[11:30] <tjcarter> it might not be possible with this TV. Neither CEA nor DMT nor EDID have the real mode.
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[11:47] <t3chguy> o_O
[11:47] <t3chguy> I'm so confused as to what brokse DPMS on my last build
[11:48] <t3chguy> installed Ubuntu Mate again, upgrade, dist-upgrade, autoremove, rpi-update, still working
[11:48] <t3chguy> yet on my other build which just has a few small-ish packages installed its broken
[11:48] <t3chguy> argh
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[11:50] <t3chguy> hmm, even with dpms working, my monitor backlight still doesn't go off
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[11:52] <ShorTie> is it even wired to go off ??
[11:52] <t3chguy> on a Windows system the monitor will go into standby after a set amount of time
[11:52] <t3chguy> which I have configured in my Ubuntu Mate power config to be after a minute
[11:52] <t3chguy> it just goes blank with backlight still on
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[11:54] <ShorTie> ok, but don't understand any of it in a way
[11:54] <t3chguy> why not
[11:54] <t3chguy> its pretty simple
[11:54] <t3chguy> computer puts monitor in suspend state
[11:54] <ShorTie> not sure what your working on or teying to do either ..
[11:55] <t3chguy> monitor goes into suspend
[11:55] <t3chguy> raspberry pi's version of this isn't working
[11:55] <ShorTie> i know all that, lol.
[11:56] <ShorTie> Windows, Ubuntu Mate and the pi is what i'm having a hard time corrolating
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[11:57] <t3chguy> Other Systems (only tested windows, but I know this monitor has a proper standby mode) work
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[11:58] <t3chguy> this Raspberry Pi 2 running Ubuntu Mate just blanks the screen
[11:58] <t3chguy> but its not put into Standby mode
[11:59] <ShorTie> hdmi monitor ??
[11:59] <t3chguy> Yep
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[12:14] <t3chguy> no ideas then I presume ShorTie
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[12:21] <t3chguy> using `sudo tvservice -o` seems to be the only thing I can do on this pi to make the monitor go into No Signal/Standby mode
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[12:21] <t3chguy> if only I could do that within the power settings of Mate
[12:24] <t3chguy> weird, using tvservice -M just keeps switching between HDMI cable is unplugged and attached while its in No Signa/Standby using tvservice -o :/
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[12:31] <t3chguy> lol
[12:32] <t3chguy> turns out my other image does have dpms, I ran xset q over SSH so obviously wasn't available there xD
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[12:35] <ShorTie> sounds like the rpi's graphic stuff isn't setup right or being used
[12:36] <ShorTie> try using the foundations kernel
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[12:44] <t3chguy> im putting raspbian on it later today and see how that fares
[12:44] <t3chguy> might try Ubuntu Snappy and installing my own X and DE
[12:44] <ShorTie> what bootloader are you using ??
[12:44] <t3chguy> whatever comes with the Ubuntu Mate image listed on the RaspPi 3rd party downloads
[12:45] <ShorTie> that tells alot, lol.
[12:45] <shiftplusone> he said he ran rpi-update
[12:46] <t3chguy> yeah, didn't work before or after it
[12:46] <t3chguy> I know after rpi-update it pushed my kernel into the 4.x range
[12:46] <ThinkingofPython> popcorn kernal
[12:46] <ShorTie> oh, sorry, missed that
[12:47] <t3chguy> hmm
[12:47] <t3chguy> no graphics output trying to run net noobs on my raspi
[12:47] <t3chguy> eh I'll just wait for the Raspbian image dl to finish instead of messing around with NOOBS
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[12:56] <ShorTie> not sure exactly what it is called, but you might need all that other vg stuff
[12:56] <ShorTie> it's on github too...
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[12:57] <t3chguy> that doesn't narrow it down
[12:57] <t3chguy> practically everything is on github
[12:57] <DoctorD90> guys, at each boot, rpi do 'DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval x" ...what does it.mean, and how may i suppress it?
[12:57] <jer> it means it's looking for a dhcp server so it can get an ip address and get online
[12:58] <jer> and it's sending the request over the hard wired ethernet connection
[12:58] <jer> broadcasting to anything on the segment
[12:58] <DoctorD90> ok great
[12:58] <DoctorD90> i thougth well so. and how decrease X interval?
[12:59] <DoctorD90> to 2 for example instead of 10 or how many it does?
[13:00] <SyncYourDogmas> DoctorD90: probably in dhclient settings
[13:00] <ShorTie> it's got tvservices (i believe), sample videos and stuff
[13:00] <jer> that interval doesn't mean what you think it does. its value is probably something like 3600 or so right now, correct? this is configured in the dhclient.conf file iirc
[13:01] <jer> it means how long it'll hold the lease it gets
[13:01] <t3chguy> ShorTie: I've got tvservice
[13:01] <t3chguy> and I can manually put my monitor in standby
[13:01] <t3chguy> just dpms isn't able to, and it seems like dpms is what x is using to attempt it
[13:02] <ShorTie> it's all the video stuff for the pi
[13:02] <ShorTie> oh well, off to play with the chicks
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[13:13] <DoctorD90> thx jer SyncYourDogmas ;) i will check.;)
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[13:18] <Theomv> Hello guys. executing a python script from terminal and then close the terminal the program stops running, correct?
[13:18] <Theomv> if so, if i make the script run @reboot from crontab what will happen?
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[13:23] <SyncYourDogmas> Theomv: it depends on the script
[13:24] <SyncYourDogmas> Sometimes closing terminal wont stop the script
[13:24] <Theomv> the script is written to work continiously
[13:25] <SyncYourDogmas> Your script? Why?
[13:25] <Theomv> everytime i closed the terminal the script stopped
[13:25] <Theomv> i now use screen
[13:25] <Theomv> because i poll an arduino for data every second
[13:26] <SyncYourDogmas> Ah right. If its not interactive you can daemonise it so it runs in the background
[13:27] <Theomv> can you give me a short example? i think i have tried this in the past
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[13:28] <SyncYourDogmas> Sure
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[13:30] <SyncYourDogmas> Do you want it done internally with python, you can use bash and start it with nohup, too
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[13:30] <Theomv> yes i used nohup in the past but it didnt work
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[13:31] <SyncYourDogmas> Ive been meaning to do this to one of my py scripts anyway. Two mins
[13:32] <Theomv> SyncYourDogmas: thank you very much
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[13:56] <Theomv> SyncYourDogmas: sorry cant wait no more i gotta go !
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[13:57] <SyncYourDogmas> Theomv look into daemonocle btw :)
[13:58] <SyncYourDogmas> Thats what Im adding now
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[14:18] <jeffree> Why does my managed wifi interface go down when creating a monitor interface on the same device using iw? This is not the case in ubuntu. Since my only connection to the pi goes down I don't know what is happening.
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[14:57] <ShorTie> Theomv, you could use screen to keep it running
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[15:41] <DoctorD90> guys, installed network manager, but i get Not authorized to control networking when i click on a connection...how.may i solve it?
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[15:48] <SyncYourDogmas> Your running it as root on startup probably
[15:48] <kubast2> Hey ,how do I install bittorent sync? I use this guide ,but I fail on "gpg --armor --export 6BF18B15 | sudo apt-key add -" https://melgrubb.wordpress.com/2014/08/03/raspberry-pi-home-server-part-14-bittorrent-sync/
[15:49] <DoctorD90> lol
[15:49] <shiftplusone> kubast2: fail how?
[15:49] <kubast2> oh I forget that I don't have sudo installed
[15:49] <kubast2> -bash: sudo: command not found
[15:49] <kubast2> nvm
[15:49] <shiftplusone> .... -.-;
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[15:50] <kubast2> gpg --armor --export 6BF18B15 | apt-key add - *facepalms my self hard*
[15:50] <shiftplusone> not hard enough
[15:51] <shiftplusone> keep in mind that you're installing software from 'some guy' and are saying you trust that guy with your computer.
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[15:53] <kubast2> There's also official guide ,but it doesn't work http://blog.bittorrent.com/2013/05/23/how-i-created-my-own-personal-cloud-using-bittorrent-sync-owncloud-and-raspberry-pi/
[15:53] <DoctorD90> shiftplusone: good morning. Im playing with network manager on rpi. I have.installed with apt-get, and version is 0.9.4.0 ....it is there a more updated version. May you update in repos? :P
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[15:54] <kubast2> had to google that one
[15:54] <kubast2> getsync.com/intl/en/platforms/desktop ,down there there is linux arm
[15:54] <shiftplusone> DoctorD90: I only have access to the raspberrypi.org repo, not raspbian.org. I'm not going to override raspbian.org packages just for the hell of it.
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[15:56] <DoctorD90> ah, ok! and how may i contact owner of that repo to ask to update packages? :)
[15:56] <shiftplusone> raspbian.org follows debian
[15:56] <shiftplusone> so... contact debian people
[15:56] <shiftplusone> (they won't be bumping versions either)
[15:57] <Jungle-Boogie> it may be best to build whatever software you want from source
[15:57] <shiftplusone> indeed
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[15:58] <DoctorD90> uhm.....so i have to waste @@ to debian guys...ok! is the time of a banhammer on debian :D channel :D (ahahahah)
[15:58] <shiftplusone> DoctorD90: what version do you want?
[16:00] <shiftplusone> stretch has 1.0.2, sid has 1.0.4
[16:01] <DoctorD90> shiftplusone: from apt i get 0.9.4.0
[16:02] <shiftplusone> you mentioned that. I'm asking which version you want.
[16:02] <DoctorD90> any version, a little.more updated :P
[16:02] <shiftplusone> yeah, it doesn't work that way.
[16:03] <DoctorD90> xD
[16:03] <DoctorD90> asking on #nm they ask me about 0.9.10 version, so i think 0.9.10 is good at least
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[16:03] <DoctorD90> because maybe 1.x is for >=jessie
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[16:07] <shiftplusone> jessie has 0.9.10.0
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[16:08] <DoctorD90> so probably 0.9.10 is good :P
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[16:11] <shiftplusone> so you have 3 options: wait for a jessie image, backport the jessie package or, upgrade to or install jessie
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[16:13] <DoctorD90> 1.jessie image is out? 0o ... 2.i may wait with not problem a jessie image :D i 'hint' just about old version :) 3.maybe raspbian install network manager with ConsoleKit actived??
[16:14] <DoctorD90> last one seems the reason of why it doesnt go
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[17:20] <ldc> I've successfully tested a way to add PoE to a raspberry PI for under 25$
[17:20] <ldc> would anyone be interested in a hackaday article or similar?
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[17:25] <Encrypt> ldc, Yes! :)
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[17:25] <ritual> yes
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[17:26] <ldc> great, here's my proof of concept https://i.imgur.com/8maq3Lj.jpg
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[17:30] <ritual> nice
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[17:37] <t3chguy> I know I wouldn't be happy circumventing the Pi's polyfuse
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[17:39] <t3chguy> http://www.cjemicros.co.uk/micros/individual/newprodpages/prodinfo.php?prodcode=4D-RPI-POE-IS ldc using this and a barrel to microUsb would be better and cheaper
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[17:39] <t3chguy> or this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Foscam-Splitter-Adapter-802-3af-compliant/dp/B00CDT7KPO
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[17:40] <t3chguy> both cheaper than $25
[17:40] <ldc> :(
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[17:40] <t3chguy> the concept is nice
[17:40] <ldc> yeah
[17:40] <ldc> I also got one of these
[17:41] <ldc> http://www.ebay.it/itm/311395183467?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
[17:41] <ldc> to avoid powering directly from GPIO
[17:41] <t3chguy> isn't PoE up to 54V though?
[17:41] <ldc> these things have a switch for 5/12/24V out
[17:41] <t3chguy> 57V is maximum PoE
[17:42] <t3chguy> nice thing about a decent buck converter is
[17:42] <t3chguy> its based around Ohm's Law
[17:42] <t3chguy> so spare volts create extra amps
[17:43] <t3chguy> and they're not inefficient
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[17:43] <ldc> ah yeah
[17:43] <ldc> if I built it with a lm7805 .. 7V would go into heat
[17:43] <t3chguy> thats not awful, but at 1-2A that the Pi needs thats 7-14W which is a LOT of heat
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[17:44] <t3chguy> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LM2596HV-DC-DC-Buck-Converter-5V-60V-to-1-25V-26V-Power-Module-48V-to-3V-5V-12V-/321512279591?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4adba00e27
[17:44] <t3chguy> thats probably best
[17:44] <t3chguy> it supports a 5-60V input
[17:44] <t3chguy> which encompasses the whole PoE range
[17:45] <t3chguy> that and two ethernet ports and you have a very cheap PoE splitter with stable voltage output
[17:45] <t3chguy> 3A output is more than plenty for a Pi
[17:46] <ldc> ah yeah
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[17:46] <ldc> I bought plenty of those from aliexpress
[17:46] <t3chguy> and thats pretty cheap
[17:46] <ldc> like 10 or 20
[17:46] <ldc> were like 80 cents each
[17:46] <t3chguy> it wouldn't be a bad product to make and sell
[17:46] <t3chguy> just stick some protoboard onto the bottom of it
[17:46] <t3chguy> solder two ethernet ports
[17:46] <t3chguy> decent thick tracks for a clean connection
[17:47] <t3chguy> and just pull the PoE off it into the buck converter
[17:47] <t3chguy> I wonder why PoE splitters are so darn expensive
[17:48] <t3chguy> if you bought fixed DC-DC Buck Converters (non-variable) it'd probably a little bit even cheaper
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[17:49] <t3chguy> PoE Sockets aren't cheap though xD
[17:50] <t3chguy> I ordered these two yesterday for building the perfect power supply for my Pi: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/38V-6A-DC-DC-Converter-Digital-Boost-Buck-Step-Up-Step-Down-Module-CC-and-CV-/361323787789?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item542093760d and http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271645612598?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
[17:51] <t3chguy> gonna use an 850W Modular ATX PSU, but switched off, it has 3A on the +5SB rail
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[17:59] <t3chguy> anyone here use BerryBoot?
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[18:05] <DoctorD90> lol....rpi cant use simultaneously wifi dongle, keyboard, mouse, and tablet connected in tethering mode to act like screen trougth vnc.....it require too many to my alimentator xD
[18:07] <t3chguy> it require too many what?
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[18:12] <IT_Sean> that made no sense whatsoever.
[18:12] <DoctorD90> amps
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[18:13] <DoctorD90> if i get out wifi dongle, tethering works. if i connect wifi dongle, tethering crash each1min
[18:13] <IT_Sean> Ah, try independanty powering the tablet. That's probably your biggest draw.
[18:13] <t3chguy> get a better power supply then?
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[18:15] <DoctorD90> IT_Sean: tablet as only1 microusb connector, so or i connect pi, or its own power pack ... :(
[18:15] <t3chguy> cut the cable open
[18:15] <t3chguy> run GND and Vcc to a Power supply
[18:15] <t3chguy> run Data1, Data2, GND to Pi
[18:15] <DoctorD90> (yes, is tablet main issue...but it acts like screen xD)
[18:16] <t3chguy> that way it'll pull power from its own power supply, but the Pi will be tethered
[18:16] <tawr> DoctorD90:
[18:16] <tawr> no
[18:16] <tawr> DoctorD90: they make usb otg cable + charging port
[18:16] <tawr> check amazon
[18:16] <DoctorD90> t3chguy: but in this scenario, usb get back voltage amd current 0o does it will not burn?
[18:17] <DoctorD90> tawr really? with otg i may solve?
[18:17] <t3chguy> DoctorD90: if you don't give the Pi the Vcc cable it can't get back current
[18:17] <tawr> DoctorD90: they make all sorts of micro-usb y cables
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[18:18] <DoctorD90> t3chguy: so i'd just cut 'only' vcc? in theory?
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[18:18] <DoctorD90> to put an external power supply?
[18:18] <t3chguy> cut VCC to Pi, and pull VCC and GND to a secondary power supply
[18:18] <DoctorD90> and leave other stuff like now?
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[18:18] <tawr> vcc is 5v. grounds have to be shared by everything
[18:19] <DoctorD90> ok, so i have well understand....btw...i have also finished usb/micro usb cable xD im in summer house, so i havent all my little piece to work on :P
[18:19] <DoctorD90> but thx for suggest!
[18:20] <DoctorD90> i think i will do it when i come back at home :D
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[18:42] <t3chguy> o_O
[18:42] <t3chguy> might install Android KitKat on my Pi lol
[18:44] * ShorTie likes to install KitKat's into his tummy
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[18:46] <ozzzy_> I prefer dark chocolate
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[20:08] <thecomedian> Hello! Anyone having a pimuxclock?
[20:08] <thecomedian> I'm trying to attach this http://www.adafruit.com/products/393 to this http://www.pimuxclock.co.uk/gallery/pimuxclock%20manual%20r3.pdf
[20:08] <Rudayb> I need help setting up a raspberry pi to be a IRC logger?
[20:09] <thecomedian> Hi Rudayb, I use znc
[20:09] <niston> anyone with a raspi hat has X and GTK on it willing to help me out debug something?
[20:09] <niston> s/hat/that
[20:09] <Rudayb> thecomedian: Thanks I will look into it now
[20:11] <nomis> is it possible to use devicetree overlays from config.txt (or options in config.txt) to affect /boot/dt-blob.bin ?
[20:12] <nomis> specifically I am working on a HAT that needs a changed pinmuxing, and I want to have options for the pinmuxing.
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[20:15] <ldc> t3chguy: I've added your foscam suggestion to the document
[20:15] <ldc> anyone up for reviewing my rPI PoE howto?
[20:15] <t3chguy> my foscam suggestion?
[20:16] <ldc> yeah the PoE splitter
[20:16] <t3chguy> I suggested making a custom PoE Splitter xD
[20:16] <t3chguy> since the buck converters are so darn cheap
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[20:16] <niston> ldc: sure, link?
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[20:19] <ldc> niston: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7t4bzxrecbwdtpb/rpi-poe.pdf?dl=0
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[20:23] <niston> ldc: what about adding a few words on different PoE standards/methods?
[20:24] <ldc> niston: I thought about elaborating on it but a friend of mine told me the articles get stripped down and clickbait-proofed anyway before publishing :D
[20:24] <Kamilion> ldc: actual 802.3AF power over ethernet or "hurr hurr, let's use the unused pairs in 100mbit" injectors?
[20:25] <ldc> Kamilion: they make both. this one is the hurr hurr verison, cheaper
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[20:26] <niston> Kamilion exactly. and for "hurr hurr" theres the cisco way, and then there's the other way... for example.
[20:26] <Rudayb> I need help with znc
[20:26] <Kamilion> This looks like just taking apart a tplink 802.3af
[20:26] <t3chguy> Rudayb: join #znc then
[20:26] <Kamilion> there's a foscam unit as well
[20:27] <Kamilion> i get the clone of it that spits out 5V
[20:27] <niston> I think a few words of clarification would be in order :)
[20:28] <Kamilion> niston: not even counting 802.1AT gigabit phantom power support.
[20:28] <t3chguy> I'd just get a PoE Socket, adding a DPDT switch to switch between spec and "hurr hurr" and use a Buck switching converter with a 5-60V input, forced to a 5V Output, that way it could be most compatible
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[20:28] <Kamilion> t3chguy: that wouldn't work for 802.3AT
[20:29] <ldc> niston: many ways, cisco way, ubiquiti/mikrotik way, powerdsine way (still got one of their midspan injectors in a rack, brr)
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[20:29] <niston> phantom power always makes me think of studio microphones :P
[20:30] <t3chguy> Kamilion: good point, but it'd be cheap as hell
[20:30] <Kamilion> t3chguy: http://www.dxsoul.com/product/cp120-12v-1a-2a-poe-power-splitter-black-901334565
[20:30] <niston> t3chguy: yeah its a shame the Rpi does not have a poe compatible magjack ^^
[20:30] <Kamilion> they already are
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[20:31] <t3chguy> it is a shame niston but it wouldn't be compatible with everything at that point either
[20:31] <Kamilion> it really cheeses me off that finding a chip that speaks proper PoE signalling is like $25 on it's own
[20:31] <t3chguy> and Kamilion you'd still need to step that 12V down
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[20:31] <niston> yeah. but adding hurr hurr poe would require as little as soldering two wires (or maybe even jumpers)
[20:32] <Kamilion> t3chguy: I know -- just pointing out that's a 802.3AT phantom power module for $10
[20:32] <t3chguy> fair enough
[20:32] <Kamilion> the TPLinks are almost as cheap
[20:32] <Kamilion> but I don't think they do 802.3AT, only 802.3AF
[20:33] <Kamilion> but you only see 802.3AT from gigabit PoE switches, so kind of a moot point for hobbyists
[20:33] <ldc> poe + gigabit = $$$
[20:33] <Kamilion> nobody's gonna be spending $750 on a switch to power a $40 pi ;)
[20:33] <ldc> exactly
[20:34] <Kamilion> yeah, it's the phantom power technique
[20:34] <Kamilion> really annoying cause they've been doing this for microphones since the 60s and 70s
[20:34] <niston> yep
[20:35] <Kamilion> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanic_isolation
[20:35] <t3chguy> especially considering the Pi can't even GigE
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[20:35] <Kamilion> it can, just not natively
[20:36] * Kamilion dangles an ASIX USB 3.0 gigabit adapter
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[20:36] <Kamilion> does about 360Mbit
[20:36] <Kamilion> less if I'm doing other stuff on USB
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[20:46] <quackotron> top
[20:46] <quackotron> Oops.
[20:46] <humbag> :p
[20:46] <niston> PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
[20:46] <niston> ...
[20:47] <quackotron> Hi, by th way. XD
[20:47] <niston> o/
[20:47] <quackotron> This thing is pretty nifty.
[20:47] <niston> which thing? IRC? :D
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[20:48] <quackotron> My shiny new Pi 2.
[20:48] <niston> ooo :)
[20:49] <quackotron> Yes, very ooo.
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[20:50] <mike_t> \
[20:51] <niston> alright, so lets see if I can compile monodebugger.net
[20:52] <quackotron> It's been years since I've used a *nix OS, so I'm fumbling around trying to remember things.
[20:52] <quackotron> Loving it, though, cause since it's been so long I got this real sense of wonder/discovery.
[20:52] <Roonix> what *nix you used to use?
[20:54] <niston> whoop. 124 Errors.
[20:54] <t3chguy> I'm not sure if I'm happy with my Pi2
[20:54] <quackotron> Not sure what it was based on, but I used to use "ark linux" which, at the time, was Linux for dummies.
[20:54] <t3chguy> I'm a little regretful of not getting the ODroid C1
[20:56] <quackotron> Anything in particular you're not happy about?
[20:56] <t3chguy> it struggles a little with Ubuntu Mate
[20:56] <t3chguy> and struggles a lot with Video that isn't ran through omxplayer
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[20:56] <t3chguy> and the Odroid has onboard GigE
[20:57] <t3chguy> the community would suck though
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[20:57] <quackotron> Ah, well, this is my first "embedded solution" device, so I have no real basis for comparison..
[20:58] <quackotron> But so far I'm enjoying my Pi2.
[20:58] <t3chguy> its my first too
[20:58] <t3chguy> I'm used to very high performance cloud solutions
[20:58] <t3chguy> so the waiting around, and slow apt-get is killing me
[20:59] <niston> ok. that remote debugger builded ok.
[20:59] <niston> now how to install teh beast?
[20:59] <quackotron> I've got my Pi hooked into the TV in my office, so I've got my main computer sitting right next to me..
[20:59] <quackotron> So I' using it for listening to podcasts while fiddling with my Pi.
[20:59] <quackotron> So the waiting isn't a big issue for me, yet.
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[21:01] <t3chguy> I did that, sorta
[21:02] <t3chguy> launched omxplayer over ssh so I had control of a radio stream from my main PC
[21:02] <Kamilion> quackotron: one of the nicer things is it's now ARM7, so there's lots of distro images that 'just work' now (if you have a proper kernel)
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[21:10] <quackotron> I hate this keyboard, though.
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[21:19] <Rudayb> Can someone recommend me an IRC bot for Raspi? I tried using ZNC but didn't work out so well
[21:21] <smeggysmeg> Bot, or Bouncer?
[21:21] <Tachyon`> lol
[21:21] <Rudayb> Bot
[21:21] <Tachyon`> znc is fine
[21:21] <Tachyon`> build it from source
[21:21] <Rudayb> smeggysmeg: Bot
[21:21] <Tachyon`> if you want a bot, try supybot
[21:21] <Rudayb> Tachyon`: Thanks
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[21:27] <t3chguy> don't try Supybot
[21:27] <t3chguy> it is long dead
[21:27] <t3chguy> 5 years since last update
[21:27] <t3chguy> go for Limnoria, a fork of it
[21:27] <t3chguy> and your issue with ZNC is that you are using a ZNC version that is like 3 years old
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[21:29] <Rudayb> Would Limnoria be a good bot to log with?
[21:29] <t3chguy> erm sure
[21:29] <Rudayb> t3chguy: ^
[21:29] <t3chguy> there's a simple Log module
[21:29] <Rudayb> t3chguy: Thank you
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[21:29] <t3chguy> you could probably write a more advanced one if needs be
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[21:30] <t3chguy> it has a WebLogger plugin too
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[21:56] <ldc> https://thingspeak.com/channels/48489
[21:56] <ldc> aaand it works :D
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[21:58] <niston> gah
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[21:58] <H__> ldc: cool. dht22 ?
[21:58] <niston> that mono remote debugger is still the same unstable crap it was back in February
[21:59] <niston> trashes the entire IDE as soon as it's activated :/
[21:59] <niston> very well done.
[21:59] * niston claps
[21:59] <ldc> H__: two 11 averaged
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[21:59] <ldc> H__: waiting for the 22 to be delivered :)
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[21:59] <ldc> I usually order in china and it takes a month to .it hehe
[22:00] <H__> ldc: here's mine -> http://lambermont.dyndns.org/astro/tempweek.png
[22:00] <ldc> that graph looks so professional
[22:00] <ldc> like mrtg output :o
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[22:00] <ldc> is that uhm .. rrd?
[22:01] <H__> yes, rrdtool. here's the mini version with the rest http://lambermont.dyndns.org/astro/obsenv1.png
[22:01] <H__> rather crowded graph
[22:02] <ldc> all on a single rPI?
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[22:04] <H__> yes, that's made from 2 dht22 sensors. I'm adding a infrared sensor and light to frequency sensor soon. as in : they work on my desk, not yet ready for outside
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[22:04] <H__> oh and 2 rainsensors
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[22:05] <ldc> rain sensors?
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[22:05] <H__> and a third dht22. It also drives some relays and reads some inductive sensors
[22:06] <H__> yes, i use ready-for-outside devices; rg-11 from hydreon
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[22:17] <gtrmtx> http://www.thefruitycomputer.com/forums/tutorials/article/24-autostart-x11vnc-in-raspbian/ <<< so i followed that tutorial to the letter
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[22:17] <gtrmtx> and i can start pi manually but i cant get autostart to work
[22:17] <gtrmtx> any tips?
[22:17] <gtrmtx> start x11vnc*
[22:18] <gtrmtx> brand new load running raspbian
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[22:41] <Kitt3n> tjcarter, seems your ext4 corruption bug is not related to jessie.
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[22:42] <Kitt3n> funny thing, resizing partition and rebooting made my pi2 go into a "kernel is tainted" filesystem is corrupted loop, power cycling it made it boot normally again, though, how odd.
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[23:06] <zyolyoptic> anyone have luck compiling an epson printer filter on a Pi?
[23:09] <zyolyoptic> spent hours make failing with the filter source for my epson printer last night I can't figure out why it fails.
[23:11] <zyolyoptic> Noticed some missing dependencies, got them but once I got past that, make fail, make fail. not sure why it was doing that. so I was just wondering if anyone has had success doing it and maybe they could give some pointers.
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[23:16] <ShadowJK> I would estimate, that few people try printing with Pi. I would estimate, that even fewer, would try to do so with Epson. For that reason, it might be more helpful if you paste the last few pages of the make fail
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[23:19] <zyolyoptic> I'll revisit and repost this when the power comes back on.
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[23:21] <ShadowJK> No power?
[23:21] <zyolyoptic> I found articles about people who have used it to networkify usb printers and also add airprint functionality.
[23:22] <zyolyoptic> using my cell phone now. Nasty storm powers out.
[23:23] <zyolyoptic> cups works on it. printer model is not listed found the right driver and source got the ppd installed. just can't get the filter to compile :/
[23:24] <ShadowJK> ah
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[23:26] <zyolyoptic> never compiled one before so I'm not sure if there are special args or maybe some gotcha dependencies that I'm missing.
[23:27] <zyolyoptic> actually never compiled anything directly on an arm device before either.
[23:28] <zyolyoptic> ill lurk.
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[23:28] <zyolyoptic> I'll. stupid spelling corrector
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