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IRC Log for 2015-08-03

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[0:10] <voidAr> netflix, anyone ?
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[0:14] <ldc> H__: nice
[0:14] <ldc> how does it compare to the simpler ones?
[0:14] <ldc> like the capacitive ones or whatever they are
[0:15] <H__> all others that I know of expose conductive stuff to the open, and these corrode
[0:15] <ldc> ah :/
[0:15] <ldc> do you know of some stuff for outdoor temperature sensing too?
[0:16] <SyncYourDogmas> voidAr: unlikely, cant play youtube
[0:16] <H__> I use plain DHT22 sensor. with a small 'roof' over it so that it does not get too wet on normal showers
[0:16] <H__> it does get soaked on storms
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[0:17] <H__> has been outside for a few months now and still works :)
[0:17] <funkybrewster> H__: nice, jelly
[0:17] <H__> ldc: i graph one of them here -> http://lambermont.dyndns.org/astro/tempweek.png
[0:17] <voidAr> SyncYourDogmas: it seems that is no plan to support Netflix for the Raspberry Pi
[0:17] <ldc> H__: ah nice
[0:17] <ldc> will have to try that with a dht22 too
[0:18] <H__> ldc: and here with the other data http://lambermont.dyndns.org/astro/obsenv1.png
[0:18] <voidAr> SyncYourDogmas: i have read some forums about that, but who knows... maybe someone here found a workaround
[0:18] <ldc> H__: you also have a geiger counter :o
[0:18] <ldc> what is it based on?
[0:20] <H__> a Radalert Inspector, this http://lambermont.dyndns.org/geiger/history.html has a photo of it
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[0:34] <niston> hmm
[0:34] <niston> optical SPDIF doesnt use laser diodes
[0:34] <niston> so you may safely stare into the red light :D
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[1:19] <mattwj2002> hey guys
[1:19] <mattwj2002> :D
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[1:24] <ldc> https://thingspeak.com/channels/48489
[1:24] <ldc> just moved the project outside
[1:24] <ldc> it's dropping :D
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[1:25] <mattwj2002> ldc: !
[1:25] <mattwj2002> :d
[1:25] <mattwj2002> that is cool
[1:25] <mattwj2002> it measures temperatures and humidity outside?
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[1:29] <ldc> mattwj2002: yeah just installed it outside
[1:29] <ldc> was indoors before
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[1:30] <mattwj2002> nice ldc
[1:30] <niston> thingspeak, like twitter for IoT xD
[1:30] <mattwj2002> ldc: how are you powering it outside?
[1:30] <ldc> mattwj2002: PoE
[1:31] <faLUCE> hello, I need to keep syncrhonized an usb 2TB drive connected to a remote raspberry pi with a local 2TB drive. Is owncloud a good solution for that? I tried simply rsync but it took too much time to buil index listes
[1:31] <mattwj2002> ldc: is the rpi poe enabled by default/
[1:31] <mattwj2002> ?
[1:31] <ldc> mattwj2002: no, I poe enabled it like this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7t4bzxrecbwdtpb/rpi-poe.pdf?dl=0
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[1:32] <ldc> faLUCE: owncloud on the raspberry pi?
[1:32] <mattwj2002> nice ldc
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[1:36] <faLUCE> (sorry, I had network problems) hello, I need to keep syncrhonized an usb 2TB drive connected to a remote raspberry pi with a local 2TB drive. Is owncloud a good solution for that? I tried simply rsync but it took too much time to buil index listes
[1:36] <ldc> faLUCE: owncloud on the raspberry pi?
[1:37] <faLUCE> ldc: yes
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[1:37] <faLUCE> ldc: why not?
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[1:38] <ldc> faLUCE: sounds *slow*
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[1:38] <ldc> not unusable but slow. it was a resource hog on x86 too
[1:38] <mattwj2002> ldc:
[1:38] <mattwj2002> i would love to build a weather station with lots of sensors for the rpi
[1:39] <ldc> faLUCE: if you just need two bidirectionally sync two disks why not just use csync?
[1:39] <ldc> csync is what owncloud is built on
[1:39] <mattwj2002> is anything anything that doesn't require a lot of solidering?
[1:39] <ldc> mattwj2002: I haven't soldered a single wire for mine
[1:39] <ldc> :)
[1:39] <mattwj2002> ldc: links?
[1:39] <faLUCE> ldc: is csync faster than rsync?
[1:39] <mattwj2002> pictures perhaps?
[1:39] <mattwj2002> :d
[1:40] <ldc> mattwj2002: eh, it's enclosed and mounted outdoors right now. but anyway, I'm using two DHT11 sensors and a python script
[1:40] <ldc> that manages them like a RAID, kicking one sensor out of the pool if it goes bad
[1:40] <ldc> (I'd have to add a third sensor so I can cross-check and kick out the sensor with worst delta, too)
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[1:41] <ldc> faLUCE: your bottleneck on a raspberry PI is the shared bus between USB and Ethernet
[1:41] <ldc> so it's going to be slow anyway
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[1:42] <mattwj2002> i wonder if they make a weather shield for rpi
[1:42] * mattwj2002 consults mr google
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[1:43] <faLUCE> ldc: but it dcid not took lot of time for file transferring. If I transfer files through ssh it is ok. It took lot of time for building indexes for comparison
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[1:44] <ldc> faLUCE: it shouldn't have, rsync checks the date and size to find out if files are identical
[1:44] <ldc> unless you explicitly tell it to --checksum, in which case it computes a md5 checksum on both ends, iirc
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[1:45] <faLUCE> ldc: to be more precise I used lsyncd
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[1:46] <ldc> faLUCE: I don't have experience with that. is it some sort of "realtime" rsync?
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[1:47] <faLUCE> ldc: no
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[1:49] <MrPockets> Word!
[1:49] <ldc> faLUCE: anyway, find out if you're cpu bound or i/o bound
[1:49] <ldc> top and nmon are good commands for that
[1:49] <faLUCE> ldc: I did not use --checksum. However, when rsync runs on the raspberry it takes too much time, and this time is not due to network bottleneck
[1:50] <faLUCE> ldc: with top I see that "rsync" process on raspberry is very long
[1:50] <ldc> long?
[1:50] <faLUCE> but at the same time I see that sftp copy requires normal time
[1:50] <faLUCE> ldc: yes
[1:51] <ldc> as in, it's taking a lot of cpu?
[1:51] <faLUCE> ldc: about 70%
[1:51] <faLUCE> of cpu
[1:51] <ldc> ok, on top
[1:51] <ldc> what's the "wa" indication?
[1:51] <faLUCE> what is wa?
[1:51] <faLUCE> I can't access the raspberry now
[1:51] <ldc> iowait
[1:52] <ldc> if that is high it means that i/o is your problem
[1:52] <faLUCE> ldc: but if i/o is the problem, sftp copy would be slow too
[1:52] <faLUCE> but sftp is not slow
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[1:54] <faLUCE> I'm pretty sure rsync is slow when generating the file list
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[1:55] <ldc> faLUCE: what rsync version is that?
[1:55] <ldc> only the older ones build the full file list
[1:55] <faLUCE> ldc: I installed it with apt
[1:55] <ldc> on latest raspbian?
[1:55] <faLUCE> ldc: yes
[1:56] <ldc> then it shouldn't hang on file list
[1:56] <ldc> tried adding -P as progress indicator
[1:56] <IIsi50MHz> Scaped most of the adhesive pad of some old Butterfly Labs VRM heatsinks that I had on my pi.
[1:56] <ldc> to check what it's really doing?
[1:56] <IIsi50MHz> Stuck them back on with just the residue, and dropped 8 °C
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[1:56] <faLUCE> ldc: I launch rsync on a mac client. the raspberry is a remote target host
[1:57] <faLUCE> ldc: so, how can I check the progress on the raspberry?
[1:57] <ldc> faLUCE: I don't get it then. is it slow to build the file list on OS X?
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[1:57] <faLUCE> ldc: no, on OS X it is fast
[1:57] <faLUCE> then, after building the file list quickly on osx
[1:57] <IIsi50MHz> They used them for the underside of the board as secondary MCU heatsinks, too.
[1:58] <faLUCE> I look with top on the raspberry and I see rsync process for long time
[1:58] <ldc> faLUCE: yeah but does the transfer start right after OS X finishes building the file list?
[1:58] <faLUCE> ldc: no
[1:59] <ldc> have you tried using a differen transport?
[1:59] <faLUCE> ldc: in which way?
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[2:00] <ldc> faLUCE: using rsync with rsync daemon
[2:00] <ldc> instead of having it go through ssh
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[2:00] <faLUCE> ldc: sftp copy is pretty fast
[2:00] <ldc> hmm
[2:00] <ldc> right
[2:00] <ldc> well I'm pretty lost then :/
[2:00] <faLUCE> ldc: nm, thanks anyway
[2:00] <ldc> I'd say either you have a old rsync version on OS X which is forcing the other side to build the file list
[2:01] <faLUCE> ldc: this could be
[2:01] <ldc> ah
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[2:01] <ldc> check with rsync --version
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[2:01] <ldc> you need >= 3
[2:01] <faLUCE> ldc: but is it possible to AVOID the other side to build the file list?
[2:02] <ldc> I don't think so
[2:02] <ldc> get a modern rsync version
[2:02] <faLUCE> I don't understand... I mean: why I would need a file list on the raspberry?
[2:03] <ldc> faLUCE: to find out differences and what to transfer?
[2:03] <ldc> rsync is incremental
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[2:03] <faLUCE> ldc: so why did you write that OSX could force the other side to build the file list? It should happen in every case...
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[2:04] <ldc> faLUCE: sure, but only the old rsync versions build the file list upfront
[2:05] <faLUCE> ldc: do you mean that the file list of the raspberry is built on mac (instead of the raspberry itself) by an old version of rsync
[2:05] <faLUCE> ?
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[2:05] <faLUCE> ldc: I don't understand...
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[2:06] <ldc> faLUCE: nope, but it could be triggering something on the other end that does it. try debugging it
[2:06] <ldc> get tcpdump, strace going
[2:06] <ldc> check out what it's really doing and waiting for
[2:06] <ldc> lsof
[2:06] <ldc> unix systems have plenty of tools
[2:06] <faLUCE> ldc: so it could be a "protocol" problem
[2:06] <faLUCE> due to different versions?
[2:06] <ldc> that's the best I can guess, yes
[2:07] <ldc> try upgrading rsync on OS X. worth a shot imho
[2:07] <faLUCE> ldc: but you wrote "build the file list upfront"... what did you min?
[2:07] <faLUCE> ldc: but you wrote "build the file list upfront"... what did you mean?
[2:07] <ldc> faLUCE: upfront as in before starting any kind of transfer
[2:08] <faLUCE> ldc: so the new versions start transfers while building the list?
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[2:09] <ldc> faLUCE: newer rsync uses incremental recursion, yes
[2:10] <faLUCE> ldc: but in this way they should be threaded. Is raspberry hardware capable of threading?
[2:10] <faLUCE> it has only one cpu
[2:11] <chris_99> the rp2 has multiple cores afaik
[2:12] <IIsi50MHz> rp2 is quad
[2:12] <ldc> faLUCE: as long as the index generation is not blocking it's not an issue
[2:12] <ldc> you can have multiple threads on a single core too, operating systems are here for handling concurrency and context switching
[2:13] <SyncYourDogmas> Paralellism is nice though
[2:13] <faLUCE> ldc: yes you can have them but it is only apparent parallelism
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[2:13] <IIsi50MHz> But Raspbian, Pidora, and other *nix variants, being properly pre-emptive multitasking systems, can multithread on a single core. It just takes longer.
[2:14] <ldc> faLUCE: yes, it's apparent parallelism
[2:14] <faLUCE> ldc: anyway thanks, I'll do some other checks... there's no other way of proceeding
[2:14] <SyncYourDogmas> File transfer would be io bound anyway, if thats what your still discussing
[2:14] <faLUCE> ldc: is there a way to see the progress on the raspberry?
[2:14] <ldc> faLUCE: -P
[2:14] <ldc> ah, when launched on OS X
[2:14] <ldc> let me thing
[2:14] <ldc> think
[2:15] <ldc> I think you can send the process a signal, but I'm not sure that will work when you're receiving
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[2:15] <SyncYourDogmas> faLUCE: have you tried inging, and rhen iperf, see if the connection is dodgy?
[2:15] <faLUCE> SyncYourDogmas: ?
[2:15] <faLUCE> what is iperf ?
[2:16] <faLUCE> SyncYourDogmas: sftp copy is good
[2:16] <SyncYourDogmas> iperf is like ping but for bandwidth
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[2:17] <faLUCE> maybe ( ldc) a good way is to see when the bytes are really transferred, through wireshark for example
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[2:18] <ldc> faLUCE: yeah
[2:18] <faLUCE> and look kbps
[2:18] <ldc> tcpdump / wireshark
[2:18] <faLUCE> ok I will do other tests thanks
[2:19] <ldc> no problem
[2:19] <SyncYourDogmas> Or nmon, love that program
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[3:02] <TeknoJuce> wow that guy was a lot of users
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[3:09] <goglosh> hello all
[3:10] <goglosh> ugh g2g see you later all
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[3:44] <TeknoJuce> anyone use the remote debugger in pydev know how to make it work without having the modules required on the local machine?
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[3:51] <TeknoJuce> example smbus
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[3:54] <funkybrewster> l
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[4:12] <ldc> is 3d printing as a service already a thing?
[4:13] <spacewalkr> yes
[4:13] <ldc> damn
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[4:20] <TeknoJuce> ldc shapeways
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[5:06] <ldc> uhm is it only me or those MQ series sensors suck?
[5:06] <ldc> no calibration, nothing at all
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[7:29] <monsti> hi
[7:30] <SyncYourDogmas> Hey
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[9:13] <altos> hey guys, I have pilight and 433Utils installed … do I really need to have pilight to use codesend?
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[9:16] <TAreHexT> Welcome :P
[9:16] <TAreHexT> Could someone help me configure the HexChat in IRC VPN
[9:17] <TAreHexT> I beg you probably already tried everything :P
[9:22] <shiftplusone> 'IRC VPN'?
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[9:24] <TAreHexT> yes :P
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[9:25] <TAreHexT> could someone help? I used even with this guide and still doing something wrong.
[9:25] <TAreHexT> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorifyHOWTO/XChat
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[9:31] <TAreHexT> it comes to error:Failed connection to the server Broker. You left a previous connection attempt (6044)
[9:31] <TAreHexT> I would add that as a proxy I use Expert Bundle ToR
[9:33] <SyncYourDogmas> For irc?
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[9:34] <TAreHexT> yes :P
[9:34] <SyncYourDogmas> Freenode will block you
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[9:35] <TAreHexT> why?
[9:35] <SyncYourDogmas> Previous abuse
[9:37] <TAreHexT> yhym
[9:37] <TAreHexT> heh
[9:38] <TAreHexT> and could someone help me with the configuration of the HexChat to other VPN servers? because I do not even know if it works
[9:39] <TAreHexT> in the sense of how well everything is set
[9:39] <Kamilion> Wouldn't it be easier to simply use SOCKS proxy over SSH?
[9:41] <shiftplusone> no idea what a 'vpn irc' is, but kamilion's idea or a bouncer is the way to go if you want it to appear like you're elsewhere.
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[9:41] <TAreHexT> I set the socks5 128.0.0.1
[9:41] <Kamilion> shiftplusone: IRC over tor.
[9:41] <Kamilion> not gonna work well on freenode.
[9:41] <t3chguy> bouncer, ZNC would be best
[9:41] <shiftplusone> tor isn't vpn though =S
[9:41] <t3chguy> that way you can connect multiple clients to act as the same nick
[9:42] <Kamilion> shiftplusone: unlikely they can tell the difference.
[9:42] <TAreHexT> could someone help me with my setup? in the sense of a mini Tut How to xD
[9:43] <t3chguy> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+to+install+ZNC
[9:43] <t3chguy> there you go
[9:43] <Kamilion> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-znc-an-irc-bouncer-on-an-ubuntu-vps
[9:44] <TAreHexT> vor Hexchat?
[9:44] <t3chguy> ZNC is for any IRC Client
[9:44] <t3chguy> thats why protocols exist, so things don't just work for a single Client
[9:45] <Kamilion> http://blog.reallywow.com/archives/83
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[9:46] <TAreHexT> but I have win7
[9:46] <SyncYourDogmas> Putty on a pi?
[9:46] <t3chguy> erm
[9:46] <t3chguy> ZNC is meant to be installed on the Pi
[9:46] <t3chguy> not on your machine
[9:46] <t3chguy> then you use Hexchat to connect to ZNC
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[9:46] <t3chguy> and ZNC connects to IRC
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[9:46] <shiftplusone> Maybe take a time out and read up on it all first.
[9:46] <Kamilion> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/SshTunnel
[9:47] <TAreHexT> that is, I do not need Expert Bundle Tor?
[9:47] <SyncYourDogmas> Your IP would be the same though if used locally
[9:48] <Kamilion> Well, what are you trying to accomplish?
[9:48] <Kamilion> Do you even know what tor is?
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[9:48] <SyncYourDogmas> It sounds like hiding the IP if he wants to use tor
[9:49] <TAreHexT> get on the server irc://37lnq2veifl4kar7.onion
[9:49] <Kamilion> the OFTC gateway.
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[9:51] <TAreHexT> This is what I eventually do?
[9:52] <TAreHexT> install putty?
[9:52] <shiftplusone> if you want to use tor, then ssh and znc won't help you.
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[9:53] <Kamilion> putty -> SSH server -> irc.oftc.net:6697
[9:54] <Kamilion> choose SSH server elsewhere
[9:54] <Kamilion> 10000s of them around
[9:54] <TAreHexT> What should I do? I only need a proxy just install PuTTy and so?
[9:54] <Kamilion> putty is SOCKS5 proxy server
[9:54] <Kamilion> also 'TCP port forward'
[9:54] <TAreHexT> i know
[9:54] <Kamilion> either will work.
[9:54] <Kamilion> pick SSH server somewhere else from you.
[9:55] <shiftplusone> TAreHexT: you should answer what you're trying to accomplish.
[9:55] <Kamilion> just as good as tor for private encryption
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[9:55] <Kamilion> answer to that was already provided -- connect to OFTC from a different physical location than real location.
[9:55] <TAreHexT> okey :P
[9:56] <Kamilion> SSH to a server somewheres else, use SOCKS or TCP forward to connect to irc.oftc.net
[9:56] <Kamilion> no tor needed :)
[9:56] <Kamilion> no tor-rejection problem either
[9:56] <shiftplusone> that's not the answer. What for? How different? Different room? different IP? Different country? Do you have a server that you own that would be suitable?
[9:56] <TAreHexT> or Expert Bundle is not needed?
[9:57] <Kamilion> TOR is only good if you are a writer for newspaper in corrupt countries.
[9:57] <TAreHexT> right xD
[9:58] <Kamilion> otherwise is 200% too much trouble for setup
[9:58] <shiftplusone> well that, and you're handing all the data over to the exit node.
[9:58] <SyncYourDogmas> Torbrowser is simple enough though
[9:58] <Kamilion> easy just to hide physical IP with SSH server, ZNC server on linux, rented VPS, lots of ways.
[9:58] <Kamilion> And lots of people run evil exit nodes
[9:58] <Kamilion> Like me! :3
[9:59] <SyncYourDogmas> Meh I use ssh or https
[9:59] <Kamilion> so many people still use pop3 and imap without encryption, plaintext passwords everywhere.
[9:59] <Kamilion> thinking tor protects them when it does not
[10:00] <Kamilion> also, it is very easy to associate traffic at an exit node from an entry point via timestamp, datagram size, and payload class identification
[10:01] <Kamilion> most of that was developed to discover hidden bittorrent traffic :<
[10:03] <SyncYourDogmas> Not if its a popular exit node. And good, shouldnt be using bittorrent on tor
[10:03] <Kamilion> no, not on tor
[10:03] <Kamilion> just in general, hidden/encrypted bittorrent traffic/flows
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[10:03] <SyncYourDogmas> The tor circuit building is a problem I think, it sticks out
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[10:04] <Kamilion> really been cheesing me off too, because I force encryption on in bittorrent, and there's not a lot of other peers on the ISOs I'm grabbing that seem to support that, even now.
[10:04] <Kamilion> otherwise comcast injects RST packets into my stream
[10:04] <Kamilion> well, heck, they seem to be doing that randomly now.
[10:05] <SyncYourDogmas> Wow thats annoying
[10:05] <Kamilion> also seem to like killing off IRC connection
[10:05] <Kamilion> like it's some kind of botnet control or something *g*
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[10:45] <niston> hmm
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[10:45] <niston> I think I need to implement RemoteDisplay : IDisplay
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[10:46] <niston> that way I could use netcat on the raspberry to redirect a tcp port to the port used by the serial LCD
[10:46] <niston> and have code on my windows box use the LCD display connected to the raspberry for debugging purposes
[10:47] <niston> so I wouldn't need to physically connect the display anymore
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[12:35] <TAreHexT> I have a problem with PuTTy
[12:35] <TAreHexT> namely, when I start it shows me this error:
[12:35] <TAreHexT> Unable to Open Connection to ssh.example.com host does not exist
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[12:38] <shiftplusone> please spend a few seconds thinking about what you are trying to do and what the error message is telling you.
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[12:42] <ShorTie> for Putty i normally use the ip address
[12:44] <ldc> TAreHexT: you're trying to connect to ssh.example.com
[12:44] <ldc> is that really what you're trying to connect to?
[12:45] <nid0> TIL that IANA own example.com and legitimately use it as an example domain
[12:46] <shiftplusone> yup
[12:46] <TAreHexT> I did it according to this http://blog.reallywow.com/archives/83
[12:47] <TAreHexT> What do I enter in the hostname?
[12:47] <TAreHexT> sory but I'm already 6 h on the computer and I do not think 1 h ...:P
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[12:48] <nid0> whatever you're trying to connect to
[12:48] <TAreHexT> create an ssh tunnel for IRC
[12:48] <shiftplusone> TAreHexT: you can't accomplish what you're trying to do without understanding the way you're trying to do it.
[12:49] <shiftplusone> And expecting people on IRC to explain it is a little unreasonable when there are many resources out there covering ssh.
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[12:49] <TAreHexT> shiftplusone: could you tell what and where to enter? because I typed everything that was in the Guide xD
[12:50] <shiftplusone> Nuh, I rarely spoon-feed information.
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[14:13] <Nixola> hi, I just got my raspbpi 2 and I'd need some help
[14:14] <Nixola> I've got an HD Ready monitor, which I believe supports 720p and 1080i and I'm sure supports 1360x768 or 1366x768, but for some reason raspbian (on both Raspberry Pi 1 B+ and Raspberry Pi 2) believes its resolution is 1184x624
[14:15] <Nixola> I am (of course) using an HDMI cable
[14:15] <Nixola> can anyone of you help me?
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[14:19] <Nixola> tvservice -s believes it's set to 1280x720 (group CEA, mode 4)
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[14:23] <Nixola> (I'll be back in a minute)
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[17:00] <Solak> hmm, dd'ing an image under Linux (Debian) doesn't seem to work here...
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[17:01] * Solak tries to put raspbian-ua-netinst on the sd card.
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[17:02] * ShorTie thinkz, raspbian-ua-netinst yuck
[17:03] <ShorTie> it doesn't get dd'd anyways
[17:03] <Solak> Any suggestions on what I could try to create a bootable sd card? xzcat raspbian-ua-netinst-v1.0.7.img.xz > /dev/mccblk0p1 doesn't work, dd'ing doesn't work either.
[17:03] <ShorTie> ya, my_pi_os
[17:03] <Solak> ShorTie: oh, you have the same problem?
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[17:04] <ShorTie> no, i gave up on that and wrote my own way, https://github.com/ShorTie8/my_pi_os
[17:05] <ShorTie> lot more options too...
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[17:06] <ShorTie> does a full Debian minimal install and uses apt-get to get stuff so you get all the dependances
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[17:07] <ShorTie> well, 1st you would need to decompress it i believe
[17:07] <ShorTie> to get a image file, not a img.xz file
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[17:08] <Solak> ShorTie: the netinst didn't work as img dd'ed to the card either...
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[17:10] <ShorTie> the original author is not around anymore, but the maintainer hangs in #raspbian
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[17:15] <Solak> oops... I see something that could've caused the problem: mccblk0p1... 'p1' could be the problem.
[17:15] * Solak tries again...
[17:15] <shiftplusone> Solak: your mistake is catting to p1
[17:15] <shiftplusone> it needs to go on the card, not on a single partition
[17:16] <shiftplusone> oh.... just caught up
[17:16] <shiftplusone> never mind....
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[17:17] <ThinkingofPython> hey shiftplusone :)
[17:17] <shiftplusone> Hey
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[17:35] <Solak> shiftplusone: it seems to work now, thanks.
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[17:35] <shiftplusone> No worries. If you ever need me to point something out right after you've figured it out yourself, I'll be here.
[17:35] <fluffet> if i want to measure the temperature in my room, what's the best way to go?
[17:36] <fluffet> i don't have any circuitry stuff, not even a breadboard
[17:36] <shiftplusone> step 1) acquire circuitry stuff
[17:36] <t3chguy> get a temperature probe then
[17:36] <t3chguy> and some jumper wires
[17:36] <t3chguy> shouldn't need anything else if you have a Pi
[17:37] <shiftplusone> yeah, dupont m-f leads and some i2c temperature probe
[17:37] <t3chguy> exactly
[17:37] <t3chguy> 3 leads will be plenty
[17:37] <t3chguy> doubt you can order that little though
[17:38] <fluffet> i think i can steal some cables from my roomate
[17:38] <fluffet> i doubt he will notice :3
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[17:38] <fluffet> it looks to me like i need some sort of tiny breadboard if i dont want to solder anything
[17:39] <shiftplusone> actually, I should've said f-f dupont leads
[17:39] <shiftplusone> no breadboard needed for this
[17:39] <t3chguy> yeah, f-f will work without a breadboard
[17:39] <t3chguy> one f will go into GPIO
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[17:39] <t3chguy> well, GPIO will go into one F
[17:39] <t3chguy> and the probe into the other f
[17:39] <fluffet> cool! thanks guys
[17:40] <shiftplusone> http://www.dx.com/p/diy-10cm-20-pack-female-to-female-dupont-line-wire-multicolored-358927
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[17:40] <t3chguy> that is cheap as hell
[17:40] <t3chguy> and free shipping to GB O_O
[17:40] <t3chguy> Its like I have to buy some...
[17:40] <t3chguy> I've spent way too much lately...
[17:40] <fluffet> i love dealextreme :D
[17:40] <t3chguy> hmmmmmmm
[17:41] <fluffet> still though, maybe i should invest in a tiny breadboard? looks to me like most "fun" stuff requires breadboards
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[17:41] <shiftplusone> t3chguy: well, they have like 3 strands in there, so it's not exactly the most reliably version
[17:41] <fluffet> if i ever want to do more than this little temperature probe i mean
[17:41] <t3chguy> lol
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[17:41] <shiftplusone> fluffet: yeah, if you actually want to start poking around properly get a breadboard... don't get the mini ones, they're not very useful.
[17:42] <fluffet> alright :)
[17:42] <t3chguy> or go old-timey
[17:42] <t3chguy> get an actual breadboard, some nails and some copper
[17:42] <shiftplusone> (don't)
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[17:44] <pwillard> lol
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[17:44] <fluffet> most arduino sensors work with rpi right?
[17:44] <fluffet> though you need a analog->digital converter for some
[17:45] <t3chguy> any digital components should work
[17:45] <t3chguy> if you know how to use them
[17:45] <t3chguy> obviously using an ADC for Analogue->Digital should work too
[17:45] <t3chguy> actually some components won't work
[17:46] <t3chguy> those are ones that specifically say they won't work with a linux board such as the pi and only mc's like the Arduinos
[17:46] <t3chguy> but those are somewhat rare
[17:46] <fluffet> ok
[17:46] <shiftplusone> fluffet: don't buy arduino modules until you're understand 5v<->3v conversion
[17:47] <fluffet> alright :)
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[17:47] <t3chguy> the Pi has a 3.3V rail though doesn't it?
[17:47] <shiftplusone> the pins on the pi are not 5v tolerant, so if you don't know how to get your 5v gizmo to play nicely with 3.3v, you'll cause problems.
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[17:47] <shiftplusone> t3chguy: yeah, it has 3.3v and 5v available on the gpio header
[17:48] <t3chguy> whats the voltage for a logic level 1 on a Pi?
[17:48] <t3chguy> 5 or 3.3?
[17:48] <shiftplusone> 3.3
[17:48] <shiftplusone> not 5v tolerant.
[17:48] <t3chguy> ah I assumed 5 lol
[17:48] <shiftplusone> so hooking up 5v is.... not recommended.
[17:48] <TheLostAdmin> Does it make pretty lights if you do?
[17:48] <t3chguy> dropping 5 to 3.3 is pretty simple though
[17:49] <shiftplusone> No pretty lights... in fact, it almost looks like everything is working fine.
[17:49] <shiftplusone> Until it stops working fine.
[17:49] <IT_Sean> there might be a smell.
[17:49] <shiftplusone> Nuh, that's just you, Sean.
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[17:50] <fluffet> i really want to learn some basic hardware knowledge.. where did you guys start?
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[17:50] <t3chguy> I jumped in at the deep end and building ALUs
[17:50] <shiftplusone> fluffet: the first thing I did that made me interested in electronics was playing around with logic chips on a breadboard.
[17:50] <shiftplusone> Learning about state machines
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[17:51] <fluffet> we had an assembler course at my university where we hooked up some basic things in order to learn that
[17:51] <fluffet> which was really fun, but assembler wasn't
[17:51] <t3chguy> Assembly on a PIC can be a PITA, but it feels rewarding
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[17:51] <fluffet> we used a motorola 68000 i think
[17:51] <fluffet> but we didn't go very deep into the fun gadgets we hooked up
[17:52] <fluffet> i learned about multiplexing a led matrix
[17:52] <fluffet> but not about 5v/3.3v stuff
[17:52] <fluffet> so it was more software related
[17:52] <t3chguy> at one point I was going to build an 8^3 cube
[17:52] <t3chguy> just imaging the amount of multiplexing that would go into that xD
[17:52] <fluffet> :D
[17:52] <fluffet> learning about multiplexing was really eye-opening for me
[17:53] <fluffet> that in order to make a 7 segment display actually work you turn it off and on like 5000 times a second
[17:53] * shiftplusone grumbles about the Sense HAT.
[17:53] <t3chguy> Sense HAT?
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[17:53] <t3chguy> and not in all cases fluffet
[17:53] <shiftplusone> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/the-sense-hat-headgear-for-the-terminally-curious/
[17:53] <fluffet> no of course not :)
[17:54] <shiftplusone> Making the LEDs work on that was a pain
[17:54] <fluffet> but we had to make a clock display with multiplexing a single 7 segment display
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[17:54] <fluffet> so hh:mm was multiplexing 4 "digits" or whatever
[17:54] <t3chguy> I tend to use decoder chips and 4 bit NANDs to store the BCD value from the multiplexer
[17:55] <t3chguy> so that if at any time it died or froze the displays would just display whatever was shown last
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[17:55] <t3chguy> lol shiftplusone
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[17:55] <t3chguy> I have a Pimonori Unicorn arriving in the next few days
[17:55] <t3chguy> 8*8 Neopixels
[17:55] <shiftplusone> Yeah, they took the easy option =P
[17:55] <t3chguy> although that little LED array looks neat
[17:56] <t3chguy> is it me or is it not square?
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[17:56] <t3chguy> it looks rectangular
[17:56] <t3chguy> which is annoying as hell
[17:56] <fluffet> it looks square to me
[17:56] <shiftplusone> I believe it is slightly not square, but it probably looks a lot more-so since those pictures are on an angle
[17:56] <fluffet> maybe the camera is a bit angled
[17:56] <fluffet> yeah exactly
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[17:57] <t3chguy> there are two contrasting angles which agree
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[17:57] <t3chguy> so it is definitely at least somewhat rectangular
[17:57] * shiftplusone shrugs
[17:57] <shiftplusone> looks okay to me IRL
[17:57] <t3chguy> I might do some Angle manipulation to work out exactly how rectangular
[17:58] <t3chguy> might be a different rev
[17:58] <shiftplusone> but I'm not particularly sensitive to such things
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[18:00] <fluffet> that Sense hat looks pretty interesting
[18:00] <fluffet> it would be cool not only to measure temperature but humidity as well
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[18:01] <t3chguy> fluffet: this'll be my new toy in the next few days :P https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0188/6794/products/RPI_Foundartion_case_4_of_4_1024x1024.JPG?v=1433330866
[18:01] <shiftplusone> fluffet: it's not entirely accurate when it comes to measuring the temperature
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[18:01] <t3chguy> I'd imagine its somewhat affected by the Pi's temp at that short distance from the Pi
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[18:02] <fluffet> that looks fun :)
[18:02] <t3chguy> it should have a detachable temp probe instead
[18:02] <shiftplusone> fluffet: the temp sensors are all on the same board and close to the CPU, so they get a bit warmer than ambient)
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[18:02] <fluffet> i am so jealous of a committée at Lund University in Sweden
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[18:02] <fluffet> they have these super-cool coats they bring when they go out and party with a led matrix at the back
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[18:03] <fluffet> which you can control with a phone
[18:03] <fluffet> like display texts and stuff
[18:03] <fluffet> works with bluetooth so you can change all texts in proximity
[18:03] <fluffet> i'll try to find an image :)
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[18:06] <fluffet> bah, it's harder than you think D:
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[18:06] <fluffet> i can only find their app's image but you get the idea
[18:06] <fluffet> https://cdn.appgravity.com/se.f1roj.ledrock/screenshot1
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[18:06] <TheLostAdmin> this http://www.independent.co.uk/migration_catalog/article5082951.ece/alternates/w620/IN5086944jacket-antics.jpeg
[18:07] <fluffet> yeah almost looks like that except the screen is a bit further down :)
[18:07] <fluffet> and they have their logo on the back
[18:07] <fluffet> and a companion app to control everything :)
[18:07] <TheLostAdmin> or this guy? http://www.waldemeyer.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/P2047509_21.jpg
[18:07] <fluffet> lol, that looks a bit ridiculous :D
[18:08] <Jesperhead> hey folks, have a bit of an off topic question: http://ix.io/k4V is some debug info from my raspberry pi running arch linux with a netgear n150 dongle (ath9k chipset). Is there anything obviously wrong that you can see? sorry if this is unwelcome. I've been trying #archlinux and #archlinux-arm for the last day. my router runs openwrt with a wpa2-psk wifi network (cipher on auto) with a...
[18:08] <Jesperhead> ...hidden ssid "corpsegrinder"
[18:08] <TheLostAdmin> I'm partial to this one: http://www.waldemeyer.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/P2047509_21.jpg
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[18:09] <TheLostAdmin> Jesperhead, we are more off topic than you at the moment. So, I'm sure your question is fine. I can't help with it, but I sure can't complain.
[18:09] <Jesperhead> ha
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[18:50] <xenkey> I might try linking the pi's serial console to the jornada 680 serial port
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[18:56] <t3chguy> xenkey: http://mrpjevans.com/2012/10/rs232-on-the-raspberry-pi-to-a-psion-5/ close enough?
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[18:56] <t3chguy> http://codeandlife.com/2012/07/01/raspberry-pi-serial-console-with-max3232cpe/ or this
[18:58] <xenkey> I'm not quite sure what type of serial console the 680 has
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[18:59] <AndChat|549236> TheLostAdmin: looks like an authentication problem?
[18:59] <TheLostAdmin> ?
[18:59] <xenkey> http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/bpia2200.pdf p18 says it's a RS-232C
[19:01] <t3chguy> lol, the first link I gave was an RS-232
[19:01] <xenkey> http://www.recantha.co.uk/blog/?p=673 closer
[19:02] <xenkey> I can't imagine a wire like that would fit into the hole I have..
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[19:05] <AndChat|549236> TheLostAdmin: sorry wrong nick. Jesperhead
[19:06] <TheLostAdmin> okay
[19:06] <Jesperhead> AndChat|549236: greetings android user. Pretty sure the psk phrase is correct
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[19:09] <Jesperhead> using wpa_supplicant with a wpa_supplicant conf. the network is a hidden ssid with wpa2-psk encryption
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[19:11] <AndChat|549236> EApol is authentication. Maybe using a wpa1 device on wpa2 AP?
[19:12] <Jesperhead> its a netgear n150, i thought it could do wpa2
[19:12] <AndChat|549236> and did you use wpa_passphrase? Always been reliable in the past
[19:13] <Jesperhead> AndChat|549236: i tried both. ascii and passphrase hex
[19:13] <Jesperhead> and by n150 i mean wna1100
[19:14] <AndChat|549236> I dont know that model but might be dependant on the dodgy driver
[19:15] <Jesperhead> im modprobing ath9k as it uses an atheros chipset
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[19:17] <AndChat|549236> There pretty good
[19:18] <Jesperhead> thats what i thought
[19:18] <xenkey> t3chguy: Know where I can get that cable?
[19:18] <AndChat|549236> I would wireshark and filter EAPOL, should be four pairs for success
[19:18] <t3chguy> not a clue xenkey
[19:18] <Jesperhead> do i need monitor mode to do that?
[19:18] <xenkey> I don't know what it looks like but I do know that the 680 doesn't have a proper serial port
[19:18] <Jesperhead> i think this dongle is the only one that supports monitor mode
[19:18] <AndChat|549236> Nah
[19:19] <AndChat|549236> Its your local inerface
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[19:19] * Solak wonders how to connect a pi to the hdmi of a tv (in this case a samsung tv with 'connect one').
[19:19] <Jesperhead> right on
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[19:20] <AndChat|549236> Solak: with or with a tv hdmi port?
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[19:22] <Solak> AndChat|549236: the Samsung has a separate box with 2 usb and 4 hdmi that is connected to the tv with a cable.
[19:23] <Solak> AndChat|549236: but it complains that the box isn't connected (not sure the pi should be detected in some way; I'm not familiar with hdmi).
[19:23] <t3chguy> a HDMI cable is as simple as it gets
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[19:23] <t3chguy> you plug one end into the source
[19:23] <t3chguy> you plug the other into the display
[19:23] <tjcarter> Err http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ wheezy/main wamerican all 7.1-1
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[19:23] <tjcarter> Something wicked happened resolving 'mirrordirector.raspbian.org:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[19:24] <tjcarter> wuhoh
[19:24] <t3chguy> if your TV isn't detecting that box then it sounds like the issue is between the Breakout and the TV rather than the Breakout and the Pi
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[19:26] <Solak> t3chguy: either I overlooked a setting (I can select pc, dvi, etc.) or the device is defect...
[19:26] <AndChat|549236> Solak: you can buy an hdmi connector to scart or whatever if hdmi isnt working.plug hdmi in before boot?
[19:26] <t3chguy> yeah make sure to start the pi after the HDMI is plugged in at both ends
[19:26] <t3chguy> or force HDMI in the config.txt
[19:27] <t3chguy> since your TV might only poll its HDMI ports
[19:27] <Solak> AndChat|549236: I always connect devices before boot (unless I'm sure it is specific to the device to do otherwise).
[19:28] <Jesperhead> AndChat|549236: I'm not too good at capturing packets. this might take a bit. going to wrestle with this and watch an episode of half in the bag. is there anything in the eapol packets im looking for?
[19:29] <Solak> hmm, thanks for the help so far... I'll bbl...
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[19:33] <AndChat|549236> Jesperhead: tcpdump -i wlan EAPOL > results.log should do it. You want to see two request responds, four packets in total I think. Happens when you log on
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[19:34] <AndChat|549236> This is reaching the limits of my knowledge though...
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[19:34] <AndChat|549236> >> sorry
[19:34] <Jesperhead> thanks for your input regardless.
[19:35] <AndChat|549236> Thats definetely related anyway, guys in ##networking might know more
[19:36] <Jesperhead> might have to drop by
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[19:52] <fabio> Hello everyone. Does Raspberry pi 2 runs centos?
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[19:55] <ldc> fabio: why do you hate yourself so much? :))
[19:55] <ldc> centos 6 is old, and centos 7 is broken by design
[19:56] <fabio> well my idea is run WHM on the raspberry :D
[19:56] <Jesperhead> fabio: looks like rpi2 only. rpi1 is armv6
[19:56] <ldc> yeah, you need armv7 at least
[19:56] <Jesperhead> http://seven.centos.org/2015/03/centos-linux-7-and-arm/
[19:56] <ldc> http://people.centos.org/hughesjr/armv7hl/rpi2/images/
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[19:57] <fabio> yes rpi2 here
[19:57] <ldc> ^ here's the mirror
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[19:58] <fabio> what is the most stable and fast distro?
[19:58] <fabio> i dont need GUI
[19:58] <fabio> for rpi2
[19:59] <Jesperhead> im a big fan of arch
[19:59] <Jesperhead> its pretty lightweight, easy enough to get started
[20:00] <ldc> fabio: I'd say raspbian-noX
[20:00] <fabio> Jesperhead, humm i love the easyness of debian :)
[20:00] <ldc> http://nightly.raspberrypi.org/nightlyimages-v2/20150801-raspbian-wheezy-1/
[20:00] <Jesperhead> yeah i mean if you need quick and convenient just go raspbian
[20:01] <Jesperhead> arch doesnt have as many packages starting out. very barebones, but pacman is just as easy as aptitude
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[20:02] <fabio> Jesperhead, but in terms of packages, raspbian would have many more than arch
[20:02] <Jesperhead> when it comes to desktop distros, ubuntu has been the ONLY distribution that has "always worked" on my first try
[20:02] <fabio> and also comunity size
[20:02] <Jesperhead> fabio: *shrug* follow your heart pony boy
[20:02] <fabio> ahaha
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[21:21] <ToRA_> hola! i am using this raspberry digital signage OS from binaryemotions.com. this kiosk OS is very restricted and i cant do much with just keyboard + mouse, but i want to install NoScript on firefox... can anyone help me with this?
[21:21] <ToRA_> i tried looking up how to install firefox addons from command line, but i cant seem to find anything
[21:22] <ToRA_> at least, nothing that worked
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[21:37] <ToRA_> i guess i killed the channel?
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[21:38] <fluffet> no man, i just dont know how to help you :)
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[21:54] <pwillard> I'm trying to figure out how to start out with MQTT (mosquitto)... feeling like I heven found the right place via google. any ideas?
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[22:17] <Berg> thats interesting idea installing FF from command line plugins that is
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[22:41] <Kamilion> ToRA_: hm, this digital signage image seems interesting.
[22:41] <Kamilion> ToRA_: I believe you can use xdg-open /path/to/firefox.xpi
[22:42] <Kamilion> ToRA_: this might help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/73474/how-to-install-firefox-addon-from-command-line-in-scripts
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[22:50] <ToRA_> Kamilion: thanks! i already saw that link and it wasnt of much help... i will try the xdg-open
[22:50] <Kamilion> wasn't much help in what way?
[22:50] <ToRA_> it gave me an error
[22:50] <Kamilion> firefox -silent -install-global-extension addon.xpi
[22:50] <Kamilion> ^ that errors?
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[22:52] <ToRA_> anytime i run "firefox" with anything after says "Error: no display specified"
[22:52] <ToRA_> all i have is SSH. i cant really do anything on the pi itself
[22:52] <Kamilion> that's an xwindows error.
[22:52] <Kamilion> turn on X forwarding through SSH.
[22:52] <ToRA_> sounds like a plan
[22:52] <Kamilion> or use the manual extraction instructions
[22:53] <Zunz> Did anyone ever get a spectrum analyser working on the RPi with whatever audio the RPi plays?
[22:53] <Kamilion> http://askubuntu.com/a/73480/346554 - "How-to prepare an addon for automatic install - Example" demonstrates how to unzip an .xpi yourself.
[22:54] <Kamilion> Zunz: does pasa not work?
[22:54] <Kamilion> Zunz: https://gitlab.com/nitroxis/pasa/
[22:55] <Zunz> Does it have CLI as well?
[22:55] <Zunz> I need to read the data with nodejs :/
[22:55] <Kamilion> if that's not pretty enough, here's an opengl variant in QT. http://qt-apps.org/content/show.php/NastyFFT+PulseAudio+Monitor?content=148504
[22:55] <Kamilion> oh, you need cli. Okay, CAVA might work better then, but you're stuck with ALSA and a single audio source.
[22:55] <Kamilion> https://github.com/karlstav/cava
[22:56] <ToRA_> "X11Forwarding yes" /etc/ssh/sshd_config already has that line
[22:56] <Zunz> Kamilion: That's fine, I wasn't using pulse audio anyway
[22:56] <Kamilion> Zunz: Eh? Why not? Do you not like multiple application audio mixing?
[22:57] <Kamilion> ALSA itself is fundamentally broken in that reguard >.<
[22:57] <Zunz> Kamilion: I don't know, I am new to the whole audio scene really and a noob with linux shizzle
[22:57] <Kamilion> ahh
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[22:57] <Zunz> Everything I find on the net is using alsa tho
[22:57] <Kamilion> no wonder you're not just writing some python/nodejs to export the FFT task right to your UI.
[22:58] <Kamilion> yes, ALSA is the sound driver itself; it doesn't do any mixing.
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[22:58] <Kamilion> the DMIX plugin *can* but fails to work (for me) most of the time
[22:58] <ToRA_> running "firefox -silent -install-global-extension addon.xpi" gives me this http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=27e1c5HC
[22:58] <Kamilion> ToRA_: What's your local X display number? :0.0?
[22:59] <ToRA_> no idea
[22:59] <ToRA_> how would i check?
[23:00] <Zunz> Kamilion: I have yet to find anything that does proper spectrum analysing with nodejs... Everything has that on the todo list
[23:01] <Kamilion> sorry, lost my connection
[23:01] <Kamilion> ToRA_: echo $DISPLAY from a terminal.
[23:01] <Kamilion> http://puu.sh/jobmF/70b703fcc9.png
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[23:02] <Solak> pi connected, working, but the tv doesn't show anything...
[23:02] <ToRA_> no text
[23:02] <Kamilion> hm, weird.
[23:02] <ToRA_> yeah...
[23:03] <Zunz> Kamilion: What I am trying to achieve is a nice spectrum analyser with nodejs on a raspberry pi that is running music, so I have like a spectrum analyser on the website playing
[23:03] <Zunz> Doesn't sound that hard but hawt damn it is
[23:03] <Solak> TV: 'No One Connect Mini detected. Please check the connection.'
[23:04] <Kamilion> Zunz: I figured that, but audio is realtime data, JSON isn't really gonna be too great at keeping that updated
[23:04] <ToRA_> Solak: what kind of TV is it? That is a weird message....
[23:04] <ToRA_> what is a "One Connect Mini"? and why is your TV looking for it?
[23:04] <Zunz> well I don't need high precision... I can smooth it out with transistions
[23:05] <Kamilion> I used to use friture
[23:05] <Kamilion> but i wasn't trying to get the data out to a webpage
[23:05] <Zunz> And to be honest, websockets are quite fast
[23:05] <Kamilion> https://pypi.python.org/pypi/friture/0.7
[23:05] <Kamilion> it'd be easy to do in flask though.
[23:05] <Kamilion> http://tlecomte.github.io/friture/frequency-analysis.html <--- this is the task you're trying to accomplish
[23:06] <Kamilion> a Fast Fourier Transform
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[23:07] <Solak> ToRA_: Samsung UE40JU7000
[23:07] <Zunz> yeah there is a nodejs module for FFT out there somewhere, but I am still stuck at capturing the darn audio properly
[23:08] <Solak> ToRA_: it seems Samsung decided that an external box should be added to provide 4 hdmi and 2 usb ports.
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[23:09] <Solak> ToRA_: it's a small box with 4 hdmi and 2 usb connectors, and it is connected to the tv with a special cable...
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[23:12] <niston> Zunz: you might use the BASS audio library to perform FFT
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[23:13] <niston> http://www.bass.radio42.com/help/html/a13cfef0-1056-bb94-81c4-a4fdf21bd463.htm
[23:13] <Zunz> I could ofcourse record audio with arecord/avconv to get the buffer...
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[23:13] <Zunz> .net?
[23:14] <niston> well the link I posted is from the .net api docs
[23:15] <niston> the library isnt .net specific though: http://www.un4seen.com/
[23:15] <niston> in fact its available for several platforms including RasPi :D
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[23:17] <Kamilion> I've used BASS -- I'm actually a big big fan of the XMPlay player from the same author (that also uses BASS)
[23:17] <niston> yeah
[23:17] <niston> :D
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[23:18] <Kamilion> XMplay is the only player I've ever found with a decent dynamic amplification system
[23:18] <Kamilion> Zunz: hm, well, I'm not seeing anything close to readymade :<
[23:18] <niston> I'm using BASS for my radio: http://sdd.codeplex.com/SourceControl/latest#sdd-sharp/sdd/subsystems/audio/AudioStreamer.cs
[23:19] <Kamilion> niston: is that on a pi2?
[23:19] <niston> nope
[23:19] <niston> pi1
[23:19] <Zunz> yeah it's kind of hard to find anything working decently
[23:19] <Kamilion> so not IoT
[23:19] <niston> huh?
[23:19] <Zunz> might just try to make my own
[23:19] <Kamilion> since it was .net code i assumed it was for the win10 IoT image for pi2
[23:19] <niston> ah no
[23:20] <Zunz> atleast, decent for interests
[23:20] <niston> it runs on mono
[23:20] <Kamilion> 2.10?
[23:20] <niston> 3.2
[23:20] <Kamilion> *sigh* really wish ubuntu would update their mono version
[23:20] <niston> yeah
[23:20] <niston> same for raspbian/debian
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[23:20] <niston> 4.0.2 is current I think
[23:20] <Kamilion> yeah
[23:21] <Kamilion> I was part of the tshock/terraria devteam for a while ~4-5 years ago
[23:21] <Kamilion> we required 2.10 then and I think they were still on 2.8
[23:21] <niston> I just love how the same .exe can be run on both my windows box and the raspi :D
[23:21] <niston> hmm
[23:21] <Zunz> Argh, I hate losing code somwhere in my giant cluster**** of backups
[23:21] <Kamilion> PE stands for portable executable, after all :)
[23:21] <niston> I had trouble with the windows installer last year
[23:21] <niston> like, it was even older than 3.2
[23:21] <niston> so had to compile a recent version on windows
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[23:22] <niston> nowadays, the wintendo install is perfectly up to date
[23:22] <fluffet> oh, cool, Kamilion :D
[23:22] <fluffet> Terraria is made in SDL right?
[23:22] <Kamilion> although I really wish microsoft had an ELF-format loader.
[23:22] <Kamilion> no, .net
[23:22] <Kamilion> used a very very small bit of XNA
[23:23] * niston speculates that official .net support for *nix won't be long
[23:23] <Zunz> Ah, always wondered if it used XNA or not
[23:23] <Kamilion> for networking and oddly enough, to represent color codes as vector triplets.
[23:23] <Kamilion> other than that, doesn't use XNA
[23:23] <Zunz> Shame they pulled to plug on XNA
[23:23] <fluffet> i have always wondered how games like terraria work
[23:23] <fluffet> like how can you manage having so many blocks
[23:23] <Kamilion> tshock has always replaced the XNA specific code so it would run on mono.
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[23:23] <fluffet> they all need to have a x,y coordinate and at least a byte to show what type they are
[23:23] <fluffet> right?
[23:24] <Kamilion> fluffet: It's actually kind of interesting -- so these are procedural generation games. They generate the planet surfaces with math, right?
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[23:24] <fluffet> Yeah I have no idea :D
[23:24] <Kamilion> So you just need to store the generation algo, and *deltas* from that
[23:24] <Zunz> Often using some kind of noise, yeah
[23:24] <Kamilion> don't need to store the entire planet at all
[23:24] <niston> Kamilion: i think most of those procedural generators in fact only require a seed value
[23:24] <niston> to generate an entire world
[23:24] <fluffet> oh
[23:24] <fluffet> but how does it remember changes to the world then?
[23:24] <Kamilion> just the seed to regenerate it, and the deltas of what a player has changed.
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[23:24] <fluffet> say if I mind some blocks
[23:24] <fluffet> oh
[23:24] <niston> ah yes yeah
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[23:25] <fluffet> that's crazy cool
[23:25] <fluffet> never thought it worked like that
[23:25] <Kamilion> terraria levels are ~2-3MB of bitmap deltas
[23:25] <Kamilion> Starbound is ~4-5MB of balanced binary tree leaves representing deltas.
[23:25] <Zunz> I tried to do something with procedural generation like 3 times, failed 3 times and gave up of the whole idea
[23:25] <Zunz> Shit's hard yo
[23:25] <Kamilion> yeah, it's tough when you don't know what you're doing
[23:25] <fluffet> it must be so tricky to do what terraria did
[23:26] <fluffet> with dungeons and stuff?
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[23:26] <Kamilion> well, fluffet, generation is done by doing multiple passes
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[23:26] <fluffet> makes sense
[23:26] <Kamilion> so first you draw the sky, then the dirt, then iterate a cavegenerator, then place objects...
[23:27] <fluffet> but still, they almost never generate content, like rooms that are unreachable
[23:27] <Kamilion> at the end, you place large templates like dungeon rooms
[23:27] <fluffet> at least as far as I know
[23:27] <Kamilion> and then run an algo to connect all of the dungeon rooms with dungeonhalls
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[23:27] <Kamilion> If you're interested in how that generation algo works -- nethack/ToME/angband and lots of roguelikes do it that way.
[23:27] <Zunz> I wonder how much time gets lost in tweaking all those variables and testing it
[23:27] <Zunz> Must be a lot
[23:28] <Kamilion> Zunz: *months*.
[23:28] <Kamilion> in some cases, like terraria, years. it came out something like 2010?
[23:28] <fluffet> Terraria's worlds have always impressed me
[23:28] <Kamilion> Look at starbound's, fluffet
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[23:29] <Kamilion> not only are the worlds and parallax backgrounds great, but all of their items are defined in json
[23:29] <Kamilion> so it's quite possible to trade player-built items (and drawable posters)
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[23:29] <Kamilion> if you remember the spray can in Half-life multiplayer... Same kind of "wow, cool!" feeling seeing other people's non-pr0n sprays
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[23:30] <fluffet> I haven't tried Starbound :P
[23:30] <Kamilion> it's pretty much terraria without the 'save the planet' bent to it
[23:30] <Kamilion> one of the ex-terraria team members
[23:31] <Kamilion> erk, too much chat, not enough working. AFK!
[23:31] <Zunz> Kamilion: I tried to use voronoi to generate something like biomes, but I could get my algorith to go do its thing on the fly instead of pre-generating everything
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[23:32] <Zunz> Hm, it's getting late... I always start to type like shit when I get tired... :P
[23:33] <Kamilion> Zunz: I have some links I can share at some other point
[23:34] <Kamilion> I've worked with a lot of game developers in the past and have a litany of blogposts about various topics and 'this is how I did'
[23:34] <Zunz> Oh, cool!
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[23:35] <fluffet> I'm about to start my third year in CS next semester, and I'm going to read a game dev course
[23:35] <fluffet> Not that I am super into gamedev
[23:35] <fluffet> but it seems kinda fun
[23:36] <fluffet> do you think it's worth exploring procedural generation or does it take super long to learn?
[23:37] <Kamilion> ehhh, it didn't take me long to grasp the fundamentals
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[23:38] <Kamilion> a lot of it is perlin noise based
[23:38] <Kamilion> but i'm not a maths person
[23:38] <Kamilion> I left most of that stuff up to the rest of the tshock devs like olink and nicatrontg
[23:38] <Zunz> Well, I really do suck at math. If you're like me I wish thou good luck... xD
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[23:39] <Kamilion> yeah, can't do maths in my head, but i can spend a couple weeks figuring out how to write it very slowly in python
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[23:39] <Zunz> Same here, I'll get there... But it will take me a freaking long time...
[23:39] <Zunz> At least, that's my own experience
[23:40] <Zunz> Figured it wasn't worth it for me so I gave up on the idea, but it was a fun adventure none-the-less
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[23:40] <Kamilion> exactly, so as long as I feel like I understand it, I have no problem leaving the solving to the computer.
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[23:43] <Kamilion> Zunz: this has been my lifesaver a couple times: https://photomath.net/en/
[23:43] <Kamilion> IF it can OCR it properly, it can tell you the steps to solve.
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[23:44] <niston> wow that seems cool
[23:44] <Kamilion> i've always had a problem trying to read written maths with viniculums and stuff
[23:44] <Kamilion> but I never went past middle school.
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[23:50] <michal_f> hi
[23:50] <michal_f> how can I get prebuild binaries for c++ boost libs ?
[23:50] <michal_f> for wheezy
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[23:50] <fluffet> :D does it take too long to compile?
[23:51] <fluffet> irssi took like 20 minutes for me
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[23:51] <michal_f> yes :)
[23:51] <fluffet> and its a super small program
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[23:51] <michal_f> well I didn't try, but under windows, on core i7 it was more over 30 minuites...
[23:51] <fluffet> can't you just cross compile on another machine and transfer somehow?
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[23:52] <michal_f> fluffet, getting prebuild package is easier
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[23:52] <fluffet> ok
[23:52] <michal_f> if there is one, of course
[23:53] <Kamilion> michal_f: libboost-*?
[23:53] <Kamilion> libboost1.55-dev
[23:53] <Kamilion> libboost1.55-all-dev
[23:54] <Kamilion> libboost1.54-all-dev
[23:55] <michal_f> thx, trying right now
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[23:57] <Kamilion> michal_f: I like using wajig to search for packages. apt-get install wajig && wajig search libboost
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