#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-08-06

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[0:03] <Gadgetoid> That seems ideal for use with a Pi
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[0:04] <ali1234> i'll probably be using an attiny to count rotations and send it over i2c
[0:04] <ali1234> i don't really trust the pi to do anything real time
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[0:07] <Gadgetoid> Yeah I've managed to get it reading rotary encoders but since that's human input it doesn't matter if there are errors
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[1:02] <maxims> !balance
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[1:04] <traeak> looks like i somehow became a master of evil. using my powered usb hub to both power the rpi2 (successfully it looks like) and power all the rpi2's peripherals.
[1:04] <traeak> it looks like ther eshould be some evil super feedback loop that should destroy the universe
[1:04] <traeak> but apparently not
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[1:11] <NullMoogleCable> would 5v @ 3 amps be enough for any pi version to have any usb or plate attached working hapily?
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[1:12] <traeak> seems to be mostly okay with 4 copies of cpuburna9 running
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[1:26] <faLUCE> hello, where can I find a deb package for mariadb? it doesn't appear in sources.list
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[1:54] <aoeu> Hi
[1:55] <aoeu> Is anyone using Windows 10 IoT on their Raspberry Pi 2?
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[1:55] <floris> no sorry
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[1:56] <aoeu> Nobody?
[1:56] <aoeu> Windows 10 is good.
[1:57] <KG5HEU-Preston> windblows sucks
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[2:00] <aoeu> Why do you think that?
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[2:05] <KG5HEU-Preston> because it is insecure and needs a internet security software to keep it from getting attacked unlike Linux witch is what the pi was originally designed for
[2:05] <aoeu> Windows is secure son.
[2:06] * SpeedEvil wonders about shodan/pi
[2:06] * ShorTie snickers
[2:06] <KG5HEU-Preston> why do you think that you have to have a security software on it when you go online with it
[2:06] <KG5HEU-Preston> because it isn't secure
[2:06] <SpeedEvil> http://www.shodanhq.com/search?q=raspbian-7
[2:07] <KG5HEU-Preston> unlike Linux that don't even have that sort of software available for it
[2:07] <KG5HEU-Preston> why do you think that most servers run LINUX not windows
[2:11] <aoeu> Because people are cheap as fuck.
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[2:12] <ShorTie> what the language aoeu, and Pleaze read the topic
[2:13] <ali1234> windows is finished anyway
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[2:14] <ali1234> they can't even give it away any more
[2:15] <aoeu> It's free.
[2:15] <aoeu> They're giving it away.
[2:15] <ali1234> it generally takes about three iterations before people realise how bad windows really is. for most people that was XP -> vista -> 7
[2:15] <ali1234> yeah they're trying to give it away...
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[2:16] <ali1234> it's usually during the installation screen, where they bring out the "faster and more secure than ever before" slides
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[2:16] <ali1234> after the third time people see that they generally realise it's a total lie
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[2:18] <ShorTie> XP was good, been down hill since
[2:18] <ali1234> it's been downhill since NT
[2:18] <ali1234> it's just that most people never used NT until it was called XP
[2:18] * plugwash thinks ShorTie is looking at the past with rose tinted glasses
[2:19] <ali1234> none of it matters anyway. microsoft spent millions getting their software into schools, but now kids are playing on cheap android tablets before they even get to school
[2:20] * KG5HEU-Preston thinks that Linux is the way to go and if people would start to run it instead of Windblows they will find that they can do more with it than they can with Windblows
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[2:20] <ShorTie> ya, the past where you had a little control over things was bad
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[2:20] <ali1234> linux has also been going down hill consistently since about 2005
[2:20] <KG5HEU-Preston> and that is why we have Linux
[2:20] <ali1234> and here i specifically mean the kernel
[2:21] <KG5HEU-Preston> thanks to Linus
[2:21] <ali1234> more thanks to intel really
[2:21] <ali1234> and their very very buggy USB drivers
[2:22] <ali1234> it used to be that only a limited set of hardware was supported, but that hardware all worked perfectly every single time
[2:22] <ali1234> now all hardware is supported, badly
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[2:22] <ali1234> but that's what people want apparently
[2:22] <ali1234> i know, i should install BSD
[2:23] <KG5HEU-Preston> Linux Mint works well straight out of the box with no issues
[2:23] <ali1234> mmm-hmm
[2:24] <ali1234> and i suppose you've tested it on every laptop currently available on the market?
[2:24] <KG5HEU-Preston> and now it is on a rolling release
[2:24] <plugwash> laptops tend to be a pain hardware wise
[2:25] <ali1234> yeah, unless you buy a thinkpad
[2:25] <ali1234> luckily they are cheap
[2:25] <ali1234> you can't really beat a X230
[2:26] <KG5HEU-Preston> nope but they do have a good support system setup over on spotchat and if they get to where they start getting on your nerves then i can also direct you to another irc server that has some good support personal on it for mint as well
[2:26] <KG5HEU-Preston> one of those said persons is a channel op in the main support channels for mint over on spotchat
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[2:27] <ali1234> and if that doesn't work you can just go to #ubuntu and annoy everyone there by not telling them you're actually running mint
[2:27] <ali1234> like happens about a million times every day
[2:28] <ali1234> but none of this has anything to do with the quality of hardware drivers in linux kernel
[2:28] <KG5HEU-Preston> that is true everything that works in Ubuntu works in Mint as well
[2:28] <ali1234> not quite true actually
[2:29] <ali1234> they don't ship all security updates, if they don't deem them important enough
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[2:30] <KG5HEU-Preston> you can force those updates on Mint if you want to ali1234
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[3:22] <ldc> I'm so happy about how this is coming up :D
[3:22] <ldc> https://i.imgur.com/MhsDt8v.png
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[3:39] <mattwj2002> hey guys
[3:39] <mattwj2002> I got something cool
[3:40] <mattwj2002> I have a snes style usb controller :)
[3:42] <mattwj2002> anyone here?
[3:42] <mattwj2002> i want to talk pi stuff!
[3:43] <KG5HEU-Preston> i am here but not much knowledge of the pi i am just getting into them now myself
[3:43] <mattwj2002> hey KG5HEU-Preston
[3:44] <mattwj2002> do you have a pi yet?
[3:44] <mattwj2002> if so which one?
[3:44] <KG5HEU-Preston> i do have a B+ setting beside me and i want to start using it to learn to write programs with at sometime or another
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[3:45] <mattwj2002> nice KG5HEU-Preston
[3:45] <mattwj2002> now I don't know much about the programming aspect of pi
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[3:45] <mattwj2002> I use it for the different images can run
[3:46] <mattwj2002> for example openelec, raspberrypi, retropie, etc
[3:46] <mattwj2002> what language? python?
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[3:46] <KG5HEU-Preston> i only run the raspbain OS on mine
[3:47] <KG5HEU-Preston> that is the one that i want to start out with and then go from there and expand my knowledge of programing languages
[3:47] <mattwj2002> raspbian is very good
[3:47] <mattwj2002> very cool
[3:47] <mattwj2002> i am not much of a programmer but it is interesting
[3:47] <mattwj2002> I just don't have time for programming
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[3:49] <KG5HEU-Preston> well i want to eventually start writing games for the Linux OS as that is what i run on all of my computers here at the house and i think that will entice more and more people to convert over to Linux witch in my opinion is a better OS that microsoft
[3:49] <mattwj2002> KG5HEU-Preston: makes sense
[3:49] <mattwj2002> KG5HEU-Preston: linux is very powerful and a lot of other systems use parts of linux
[3:50] <mattwj2002> android, networking gear such as Cisco, Juniper, etc
[3:50] <Kamilion> the linux kernel and the GNU userspace are two separate, yet intertwined things.
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[3:51] <Kamilion> it's somewhat important not to confuse the two
[3:51] <niston> are there USB power bricks with built in powerline ?
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[3:51] <mattwj2002> Kamilion: good point
[3:51] <niston> something like this, but with a few USB ports and one ethernet instead -> http://www.ebuyer.com/337122-zyxel-500mbps-powerline-4-port-gigabit-adapter-pla4225-gb0101f
[3:51] <SpeedEvil> you mean cable niston?
[3:51] <SpeedEvil> they are common
[3:51] <SpeedEvil> oh
[3:51] <niston> powerline adapter/power supply combined
[3:51] <KG5HEU-Preston> what i don't understand is that the OS the OS is free and you can do so much more customizations in it than you can in Windows and if you don't like the way the system works and you know how to code you can change it up
[3:52] <niston> yanno it'd make sense
[3:52] <Kamilion> just because android uses the linux kernel doesn't mean that Android/Linux is the same as GNU/Linux
[3:52] <SpeedEvil> niston: the USB power connector on the Pi is only for power
[3:52] <mattwj2002> KG5HEU-Preston: plus the price is nice
[3:52] <mattwj2002> :D
[3:52] <mattwj2002> Kamilion: I wasn't implying that
[3:52] <Kamilion> niston: yes, there's quite a number of cheap mobile phone chargers that have a non-removable cable terminating in a USB micro connnector.
[3:52] <ldc> no please don't use powerline
[3:52] <KG5HEU-Preston> uh huh
[3:52] <niston> SpeedEvil: that's why the brick should have an ethernet port
[3:53] <niston> you know
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[3:53] <niston> a few usb ports for power
[3:53] <niston> and one ethernet port
[3:53] <niston> that goes into the powerline adapter
[3:53] <niston> all in one
[3:53] <niston> device
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[3:53] <niston> so you'd connect a usb a to micro usb cable between the speculative device and the raspberry
[3:53] <Kamilion> niston: you can find those.
[3:53] <mattwj2002> Kamilion: i was implying that the linux has touch a lot of things besides traditional linux that runs a laptop or desktop
[3:53] <mattwj2002> *touched
[3:53] <niston> and a short ethernet jumper between the device's ethernet port and the raspi's
[3:53] <KG5HEU-Preston> and you don't have to worry about getting a virus on Linux like you do on windows
[3:54] <niston> ie patch cable :D
[3:54] <Kamilion> Look for a USB 3 port hub with USB-to-Ethernet for android USB-OTG
[3:54] <Kamilion> e?
[3:54] <Kamilion> why would you need to patch ethernet across?
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[3:55] <niston> heh http://www.broadbandbuyer.com/store/homeplug-powerline/homeplug-wall-sockets/
[3:55] <Kamilion> niston: http://www.amazon.com/Allytech-Micro-USB-Ethernet-Computer-Notebook/dp/B0105URLHE/
[3:55] <niston> Kamilion: that's not what I mean
[3:55] <Kamilion> then you mean something technically infeasable
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[3:56] <Kamilion> and I've still never seen a power over ethernet adapter terminating in USB micro yet.
[3:56] <Kamilion> always DC barrel jacks
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[3:57] <Kamilion> Oh, wait, you're talking about one of those crappy HomePNA adapters?
[3:57] <Kamilion> ugh.
[3:57] <Kamilion> Those only work if you don't have circuit breakers with GFCI protection
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[3:58] <Kamilion> yeah, sorry, not seeing anything homepna compliant with USB anything
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[4:00] <Kamilion> anyway, those powerline network adapters aren't very good
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[4:01] <Kamilion> The speeds they advertise are BS because it's a shared medium, so unless you only have two units going point to point, the speed halfs with every additional client device
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[4:02] <Kamilion> skip all the trouble and just run ethernet ;)
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[4:03] <ozzzy> better than tin cans and string
[4:04] <niston> here's what I mean
[4:04] <niston> http://i.imgur.com/rjr1pb9.png
[4:04] <niston> all the stuff on the left side inside a case that looks like the wallwart on the right side
[4:04] <niston> I can't find anything like it
[4:05] <niston> WHY NOT
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[4:09] <niston> btw powerline quality heavily depends on house wiring. if you're lucky, it performs quite decent.
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[4:10] <mattwj2002> I always wondering about the security of powerline adapters
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[4:11] <mattwj2002> how far down the power line does that go?
[4:11] <niston> it really depends on the wiring
[4:11] <niston> of course, they are keyed
[4:11] <niston> I think AES
[4:11] <niston> shared secret
[4:11] <mattwj2002> oh
[4:11] <mattwj2002> good
[4:11] <ozzzy> Setec Astronomy
[4:11] <mattwj2002> niston: to be honest i have never looked into that
[4:11] <mattwj2002> ;0
[4:11] <mattwj2002> encryption yo
[4:12] <mattwj2002> :D
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[4:13] <niston> if I were a power supply manufacturer i'd look into it some more. make "networked" power supplies. man you could build the stuff into consumer electronics, for example. imagine a hifi system with no wires but power supply and speakers.
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[4:14] <mattwj2002> niston: i like the way you think
[4:14] <mattwj2002> :)
[4:14] <mattwj2002> you could have speakers all over your home just using your power line
[4:14] <mattwj2002> I wonder if they make that all ready
[4:14] <niston> I was looking to build a powerline adapter into my radio
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[4:15] <niston> but it would have involved tearing down an existing one and modifying it, which is not good.
[4:15] <mattwj2002> http://www.iogear.com/product/GHPAKIT/
[4:15] <exonormal> can't you buy one?
[4:15] <mattwj2002> that is from a very quick google search
[4:16] <niston> yeah but that's not ethernet isnt it
[4:16] <mattwj2002> no
[4:16] <mattwj2002> i thought it used the power line
[4:16] <niston> I think it does from the description
[4:16] <mattwj2002> "IOGEAR's Powerline Stereo Audio System utilizes the existing electrical lines in your home or office to stream music to any room."
[4:16] <niston> but it pipes audio over the wires
[4:16] <mattwj2002> right
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[4:17] <mattwj2002> isn't that what you wanted?
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[4:17] <niston> no
[4:17] <exonormal> now that's a sweet setup
[4:17] <niston> see its an internet radio
[4:17] <niston> so
[4:17] <mattwj2002> oh
[4:17] <niston> :)
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[4:17] <mattwj2002> like i said very quick google search
[4:17] <mattwj2002> :P
[4:17] <niston> If I were to build a preamp
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[4:17] <niston> I'd link it via ethernet
[4:17] <niston> and if I could do so
[4:17] <niston> without ethernet cables
[4:17] <niston> it would be quite sleek
[4:18] <niston> as I said: just power wires
[4:18] <niston> except for speakers of course
[4:18] <niston> although you could build active speakers
[4:18] <niston> ...
[4:18] <Kamilion> niston: really, it's the power supply that lacks :<
[4:18] <exonormal> you mean to use the power wires as the antenna?
[4:18] <niston> no i mean
[4:18] <Kamilion> no, it just adds 'noise' to the AC signal
[4:19] <niston> using ethernet to communicate/stream media between the components (receiver, preamp, remote inputs, remote outputs, file recorder/player, fm tuner)
[4:19] <niston> and using IEEE1901 over the existing power wires that go into the devices
[4:19] <Kamilion> ah, yeah, HDMI CEC Ethernet does that.
[4:20] <niston> instead of adding ethernet sockets and requiring a switch
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[4:20] <Kamilion> because that doesn't match any of ethernet's standard rates. 10mbit, 100mbit, 1000mbit, 10000mbit.
[4:20] * ozzzy remembers 110 baud
[4:21] <Kamilion> and not only that, none of the power line manufacturers have any compatibility
[4:21] <Kamilion> some are members of the homepna alliance
[4:21] <Kamilion> some are homeplug
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[4:21] * ozzzy thinks there's still an acoustic coupler in the junk drawer
[4:21] <Kamilion> some are "Power Ethernet" which is a standard I've never even heard of
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[4:22] <Kamilion> niston: I honestly want something similar, with with a pair of GPIOs controlling relays for the wall sockets.
[4:22] <Kamilion> i can find all sorts of propritary stuff
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[4:22] <Kamilion> http://www.amazon.com/GE-Wireless-Lighting-Control-Receptacle/dp/B0013V1SRY
[4:23] <ozzzy> there's nothing wrong with proprietary
[4:23] <Kamilion> but nothing using standard wifi or bluetooth
[4:23] <Kamilion> well, I don't really want to learn the stupid ZWave protocol
[4:23] <niston> that's another thing, wall sockets
[4:23] <Kamilion> i just want it to get an IPv6 address and sit there waiting to be paired
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[4:24] <Kamilion> I know what stops most of it
[4:24] <Kamilion> UL certification
[4:24] <Kamilion> and only the big boys like GE can dictate 'standards' like zwave
[4:25] <Kamilion> which is another reason I like plain old ethernet
[4:25] <Kamilion> and I'd be THRILLED to swap out my AC outlets with 802.3AF Gigabit Power over Ethernet sockets.
[4:25] <ozzzy> wires are so 1990s
[4:25] <Kamilion> but there's no way that could stand 2kw
[4:26] <Kamilion> the only high power device I run anymore is the stupid vacuum cleaner
[4:26] <Kamilion> all the lights are LED >14w
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[4:27] <Kamilion> but yeah, there's nothing like a wall outlet with an ESP8266 socket *G*
[4:27] <mattwj2002> my frig has an led bulb
[4:27] <mattwj2002> it has been running solid for over 5 years
[4:27] <Kamilion> actually, I think the fridge is the only thing left with an incandescent bulb here...
[4:27] <mattwj2002> it was like a $30 bulb
[4:28] * Kamilion puts that on his list to replace
[4:28] <Kamilion> yeah, one that can withstand the cold
[4:28] <Kamilion> and more importantly, humidity
[4:28] <mattwj2002> can't take the cold get out of the kitchen :P
[4:28] <Kamilion> probably a conformally coated PCB
[4:29] <mattwj2002> no idea
[4:29] <mattwj2002> but 5 years is good for a light bulb
[4:29] <mattwj2002> I believe it is made by phillips
[4:29] <Kamilion> I've still got devices from the 1970s with LED power indicators
[4:30] <Kamilion> when properly engineered, they'll last a lifetime.
[4:30] <mattwj2002> hehe
[4:30] <mattwj2002> the 70s yo1
[4:30] <CoJaBo> White LEDs have a much shorter lifetime
[4:30] <mattwj2002> yo!
[4:30] * mattwj2002 puts on some bell bottoms
[4:31] <Kamilion> CoJaBo: depends on which kind -- the pure white semiconductor or the blue-with-white-phosphor
[4:31] <CoJaBo> ~5 years ago, white LED lifespans were in the single-digit hours range
[4:31] <Kamilion> the newer pure white semiconductor LEDs have lifespans in the 3 year range
[4:31] <mattwj2002> CoJaBo: i disagree
[4:32] <mattwj2002> this was a $30 light bulb
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[4:32] <mattwj2002> maybe 10 to 15 years ago
[4:32] <Kamilion> stuff like the CREE 1W/3W/5W stars
[4:33] <mattwj2002> but i don't see that 5 years ago
[4:33] * CoJaBo hasn't bought lightbulbs in a couple years now
[4:33] <CoJaBo> mattwj2002: ..?
[4:33] <Kamilion> but the materials to make the pure-white semiconductors are quite a bit more expensive than the average gallium-arsenide LED
[4:33] <mattwj2002> "CoJaBo: ~5 years ago, white LED lifespans were in the single-digit hours range"
[4:33] <CoJaBo> mattwj2002: That is what I've seen, yes
[4:33] <CoJaBo> Last year, they were $100+ at Walmart
[4:33] <mattwj2002> okay
[4:34] <mattwj2002> I was just respectfully disagreeing
[4:34] <Kamilion> he means, available at retail, mattwj2002
[4:34] <mattwj2002> :)
[4:34] <Kamilion> it's only been about 2 years since they really started penetrating the market
[4:34] <mattwj2002> Kamilion: this bulb i bought at sams club
[4:34] <Kamilion> my local safeway doesn't even sell incandescent bulbs anymore at all now
[4:34] <CoJaBo> mattwj2002: ..really tho, where did you possibly get a white LED 15 years ago for $30?
[4:34] <mattwj2002> no
[4:34] <mattwj2002> 5 years ago
[4:34] <CoJaBo> Kamilion: They're illegal in much of the world
[4:34] <Kamilion> CoJaBo: that's incorrect
[4:34] <mattwj2002> I bought the bulb 5 years ago
[4:34] <CoJaBo> mattwj2002: Where?
[4:35] <mattwj2002> sam club
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[4:35] <CoJaBo> ..that seems.... odd
[4:35] <mattwj2002> I know it was 5 years ago
[4:35] <Kamilion> CoJaBo: In certain jurisdictions it's unlawful to sell standard 60w/100w incandescent 'house bulbs'
[4:35] <Kamilion> Mine is one of them
[4:35] <Kamilion> but we can still buy plenty of other types of incandescent bulbs, like flood lamps
[4:35] <mattwj2002> because I bought it when I moved in here.....I have been here over 5 years ago now
[4:36] <Kamilion> CoJaBo: possession is never a crime though, despite what you imply
[4:36] <CoJaBo> mattwj2002: You should've bought thousands and resold; you'd be rich by now
[4:36] <mattwj2002> :P
[4:36] <CoJaBo> Kamilion: ..wat
[4:36] <Kamilion> Just because something's unlawful to sell doesn't mean it's unlawful to possess
[4:36] <niston> I have flood lights in my livingroom
[4:36] <CoJaBo> mattwj2002: Srsly, they were almost $200 some places just a couple years ago
[4:37] <niston> pointed to the ceiling
[4:37] <CoJaBo> Kamilion: I didn't say possess
[4:37] <mattwj2002> CoJaBo: where?
[4:37] <Kamilion> CoJaBo: not true -- I've been buying $14 LED bulbs for at least five years.
[4:37] <CoJaBo> mattwj2002: Walmart
[4:37] <mattwj2002> what country?
[4:37] <CoJaBo> US
[4:37] <CoJaBo> Kamilion: Shoulda sold them in the US then lol
[4:37] <Kamilion> why?
[4:37] <Kamilion> I just told people to get them from the same place I did, dx.com and later dxsoul.com
[4:38] <CoJaBo> Kamilion: They've been in the triple-digit range for most places here for that timespan
[4:38] <plugwash> here in the UK they can't legally sell standard incandescent bulbs but they can sell specialist ones
[4:38] <Kamilion> That's blatantly incorrect
[4:38] <CoJaBo> Kamilion: That's one hell of a markup lol
[4:38] <Kamilion> I've been purchasing LED lightbulbs for the better part of 13 years now.
[4:38] <CoJaBo> Kamilion: Do you get them at Walmart?
[4:38] <plugwash> which means we end up using rough service bulbs (which are less efficient) instead of standard bulbs
[4:38] <Kamilion> no, I don't shop at walmart.
[4:38] <Kamilion> there's not one nearby.
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[4:39] <Kamilion> okay, logged into my account
[4:39] <Kamilion> 5/11/2008:
[4:39] <Kamilion> http://www.dx.com/p/15734
[4:39] <mattwj2002> CoJaBo: respectfully I think your time line is bit off
[4:39] <Kamilion> http://www.dx.com/p/54226
[4:39] <Kamilion> http://www.dx.com/p/152656
[4:39] <Kamilion> http://www.dx.com/p/157711
[4:39] <Kamilion> http://www.dx.com/p/177600 <--- this one broke, don't buy it
[4:40] <Kamilion> the two golden heatsink models are real champs, I bought 3 of each, all six are still working.
[4:41] <Kamilion> http://puu.sh/jr2Eo/e4bde39edd.jpg <--- here's a screenshot of the order :)
[4:41] <mattwj2002> Kamilion: is e27 a us compatible light socket?
[4:41] <Kamilion> yes
[4:41] <Kamilion> that's the standard screw in socket
[4:41] <mattwj2002> that is what i thought
[4:41] <mattwj2002> ;0
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[4:42] <Kamilion> it should be noted tho
[4:42] <Kamilion> these are NOT pure-white bulbs
[4:42] <niston> the E stands for Edison I think?
[4:42] <Kamilion> well, one of them is
[4:42] <Kamilion> the other ones are 'warm white'
[4:42] <Kamilion> that kind of yellowish glow that normal living room bulbs are
[4:42] <shauno> yeah. e27 is edison-screw with a 27mm width. normal in the US is e26, but 1mm difference is rarely worth caring
[4:43] <niston> so technically its not only us compatible, it _is_ an us socket
[4:43] <mattwj2002> man
[4:43] <mattwj2002> led bulbs have really came down
[4:43] <mattwj2002> time to convert1
[4:43] <mattwj2002> :)
[4:44] <mattwj2002> I have cfls in everything but my frig
[4:44] <Kamilion> mattwj2002: when you order from china, yes
[4:44] <Kamilion> but... you get what you pay for
[4:44] <Kamilion> IMHO, always use the 'bulkrate' coupon and order at least 3 of anything
[4:44] <CoJaBo> Kamilion: Those are still like $30 at Walmart
[4:44] <Kamilion> if it's not worth it to pay for 3, then the item probably isn't worth your $$$
[4:45] <mattwj2002> Kamilion: is dx.com a chinese thing?
[4:45] <Kamilion> CoJaBo: Sucks for walmart shoppers in your area then, because it's not that way here in california
[4:45] <CoJaBo> Order them in bulk and return them there xD
[4:45] <mattwj2002> or in Minnesota
[4:45] <Kamilion> mattwj2002: hongkong distributor -- if you want local, go to http://dxsoul.com to get direct from their US warehouse.
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[4:46] <mattwj2002> Kamilion: is aliexpress.com
[4:46] <mattwj2002> any good?
[4:46] <Kamilion> mattwj2002: but hong kong's postal service is normally free packet delivery
[4:46] <mattwj2002> i have bought arduino stuff from tehre before
[4:46] <mattwj2002> *there
[4:46] <Kamilion> yeah, aliexpress is about as old as dx.com
[4:46] <Kamilion> they're pretty much exactly the same except for the name (and that DX has a us warehouse)
[4:46] <mattwj2002> are chinese bulbs safe though?
[4:46] <Kamilion> nope!
[4:46] * Kamilion laughs
[4:46] <mattwj2002> lol
[4:46] <Kamilion> sec, lemme find you an article about it
[4:47] * mattwj2002 hides under his blanket
[4:47] <Kamilion> some are
[4:47] <Kamilion> some arn't
[4:47] <Kamilion> the ones that look like big bars of LEDs
[4:47] <Kamilion> those are normally NOT safe
[4:47] <Kamilion> http://www.dx.com/p/e27-224-led-6000k-1000-lumen-energy-saving-light-bulb-white-180-240v-27585
[4:47] <Kamilion> the ones that look like this -- TOTALLY NOT SAFE.
[4:48] <Kamilion> NO TOUCHY DURING OPERATION.
[4:48] <CoJaBo> Sure they're safe! Just don't ever touch them while plugged in. Or leave them anywhere not fire-retardent.
[4:48] <CoJaBo> The EU ones have the unique feature of being able to electricute you even when off.
[4:48] <mattwj2002> Kamilion: to be honest
[4:48] <Kamilion> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keaE7QTKTYE
[4:49] <Kamilion> CoJaBo: yeah -- fun stuff.
[4:49] <mattwj2002> chinese led bulbs make me nervous
[4:49] <Kamilion> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3ci4nlKhEk
[4:49] <Kamilion> mattwj2002: This video -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3ci4nlKhEk Watch it.
[4:50] <CoJaBo> Kamilion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keaE7QTKTYE
[4:50] <Kamilion> now, the bulbs I linked ( http://www.dx.com/p/157711 and http://www.dx.com/p/152656 ) are indeed sealed, and fully safe to touch during operation.
[4:50] <Kamilion> CoJaBo: why are you linking me the same video back?
[4:50] <CoJaBo> ..huh, you already posted it lol
[4:51] <Kamilion> CoJaBo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3ci4nlKhEk this is the one that julian links to, of the full corncob teardown and danger-report.
[4:51] <Kamilion> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3ci4nlKhEk
[4:51] <CoJaBo> There's a guy on youtube who connects those to 50kv
[4:51] <Kamilion> O_o
[4:51] <CoJaBo> Nothing particularly interesting at all happened.. I was dissappoint
[4:52] <Kamilion> I know where to get 480V... but not 50kv.... O_o
[4:52] <CoJaBo> Gigantic transformer and variac
[4:52] <Kamilion> ahh
[4:52] <Kamilion> microwave MOT
[4:52] <niston> I like these LED lamps: http://www.ledinside.com/knowledge/2015/2/the_next_generation_of_led_filament_bulbs
[4:52] <CoJaBo> Yeh, he loves MOTs too
[4:53] <CoJaBo> Forget the username or I'd link it..
[4:53] <Kamilion> probably kingofrandom
[4:53] <Kamilion> or one of his circle of youtube buddies
[4:54] <Kamilion> but yeah, buyer beware on LED bulbs
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[4:54] <Kamilion> I really would overspend on a properly QA'd bulb if I was worried.
[4:54] <Kamilion> but I'm totally comfortable dying in a fire. :)
[4:54] <mattwj2002> :P
[4:54] <Kamilion> the rest of you probably have wives or kids or other family members
[4:55] * mattwj2002 hugs his tomato plants
[4:55] <CoJaBo> Kamilion: https://www.youtube.com/user/Photonvids/videos
[4:55] <Kamilion> CoJaBo: ooh, someone I don't know. Subscribed.
[4:55] <Kamilion> oh wait... No, I've seen some of his videos. UK, up in an attic?
[4:56] <CoJaBo> Yep
[4:56] <Kamilion> yeah, someone linked me to him months ago and I'd forgotten all about it.
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[4:57] <Kamilion> https://www.youtube.com/user/myvideoisonutube ElectronicsNMore's channel is pretty good.
[4:57] <Kamilion> https://www.youtube.com/user/mikeselectricstuff is also full of neat stuff.
[4:58] <Kamilion> https://www.youtube.com/user/Afrotechmods is too.
[4:59] <mattwj2002> Kamilion: I have a retarded question
[4:59] <Kamilion> no question is retarded
[5:00] <mattwj2002> is the a21 or a19 number mean?
[5:00] <Kamilion> but ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI
[5:00] <Kamilion> mattwj2002: I'm afraid I don't have enough context to answer that. A21 or A19 what?
[5:00] <KG5HEU-Preston> the only retarted question is a question that isn't asked
[5:00] <mattwj2002> https://www.earthled.com/collections/100-watt-a-shaped-led-replacement-bulbs/products/thinklux-a23-led-light-bulb-16-5-watt-100-watt-equal-dimmable-tkua23s02?variant=1959606532
[5:00] <mattwj2002> or a23
[5:01] <mattwj2002> is that the brightness?
[5:01] <Kamilion> lumens would be brightness
[5:01] <Kamilion> not bad -- good price for a dimmable bulb
[5:01] <Kamilion> "A23 bulb shape fits in fixtures designed for high output incandescent bulbs"
[5:01] <Kamilion> so I would assume that does not include table lamps
[5:02] <Kamilion> also if you look at the shape, this is something you'd want to screw into the celing to get a good light distribution
[5:02] <KG5HEU-Preston> i think that has to do with the way the bulb is shaped
[5:02] <Kamilion> it is indeed
[5:02] <Kamilion> and what kind of lamps it 'should' be fitted into
[5:02] <Kamilion> table and desk lamps will not be specified for a "high output" bulb, EG, 100W
[5:03] <Kamilion> most of them will want 40W or 60W, probably not even 75W
[5:03] <Kamilion> ceramic wall and celing fixtures, outdoor floodlamp sockets, those are probably A23
[5:04] <Kamilion> https://www.earthled.com/pages/find-the-right-led-bulb-for-me <--- this gives you pictures and names of most of the major types.
[5:04] <Kamilion> A15 seems to be 'desk lamp', A19 seems to be 'table lamp', A21/A23 seems to be 'room light'
[5:04] <Kamilion> like the big 150W we used to have in the laundry room
[5:05] <Kamilion> which just seemed comically oversized every time I looked at it, heh
[5:06] <mattwj2002> Kamilion: thank you
[5:08] <mattwj2002> i have my eye on some philip light bulbs
[5:08] <mattwj2002> 100w equalivent
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[5:12] <mattwj2002> it is $34 for a four pack
[5:13] <Kamilion> are they dimmable?
[5:13] <mattwj2002> no but i don't have any dimmers at my home
[5:13] <mattwj2002> no need
[5:13] <Kamilion> generally the dimmable ones have much better quality power supply PCBs
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[5:15] <Kamilion> mattwj2002: on a lot of these I'm seeing about $1 difference between the dimmable and non-dimmable versions
[5:16] <Kamilion> if it comes down to it, spend the extra $5 and they'll probably last longer.
[5:17] <Kamilion> also, make sure you get the right color temperature for the right locations. Generally kitchens and garages are 'cold' white, and living spaces and bathrooms are 'warm white'.
[5:18] <Kamilion> *personally* I've found I prefer the 'cold' white LEDs everywhere. They have a nice, gentle blue tint to them.
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[5:19] <mattwj2002> Kamilion: i don't like warm light
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[5:19] <mattwj2002> :)
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[5:20] <Kamilion> they also seem to last longer than the warm whites, I've found
[5:21] <Kamilion> every single cold white LED bulb I have is still in operation, while I've got at least two bad warms. And, I should note, the power supplies went out on those, not the LED elements.
[5:22] <exonormal> so, we should change this channel name to LED and anything with LEDs?
[5:22] <Kamilion> well, I like relays controlling AC things. :3
[5:22] <mattwj2002> haha exonormal
[5:22] <exonormal> lol
[5:23] <Kamilion> and general electronics reliability information is always useful.
[5:23] <Kamilion> but I see your point, back to tinkering for me.
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[5:25] <KG5HEU-Preston> i like to tinker with things hopefully i don't blow up something when i go tinkering with electronics
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[5:27] <exonormal> yeh, at work I blow up 15kV 75 micro farad caps.. boy they are messy...
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[5:28] <mattwj2002> exonormal: *high five*
[5:28] <KG5HEU-Preston> i want to blow up something like a major transformer like they have at the substations
[5:28] <mattwj2002> i suppose i should get some sleep
[5:28] <mattwj2002> have a good night all
[5:28] <exonormal> ok see ya
[5:28] <mattwj2002> bye! :)
[5:28] <exonormal> bye
[5:28] <KG5HEU-Preston> latter mattwj2002
[5:29] <mattwj2002> later exonormal KG5HEU-Preston Kamilion and everyone else in the room!
[5:29] <mattwj2002> bye
[5:29] <mattwj2002> :D
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[5:29] <exonormal> nite
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[5:29] <KG5HEU-Preston> good night
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[7:54] <cconstantine> Hello, I recently got a small spi touch screen and I've gotten it to work, but no opengl_es apps will display to it. Is there anyway to make that work?
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[9:10] <icecube45> Alright
[9:10] <icecube45> so
[9:10] <icecube45> just got a monitor for my rpi
[9:10] <icecube45> thoughts on projects?
[9:14] <CoJaBo> Rpi-powered icecubes.
[9:14] <icecube45> if only
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[10:59] <t3chguy> Gadgetoid: one thing I'd love to see, and might have a play about with doing myself, sound reactive visualizations on the Unicorn :P
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[11:35] <xenkey> So I set up a WiFi network on my pi
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[11:56] <Sonny_Jim> xenkey: Is there more to that sentence?
[11:57] <xenkey> Nope
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[11:57] <xenkey> But I can add to it if you ask a question :D
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[12:36] <durm> after installing raspbian on 4G sdcard. I cant login to system. Authentication finishs succesfully. It looks like very slow sd card. Is it normal to work from 4G sd card?
[12:37] <durm> may 4Gb is too small?
[12:37] <durm> maybe
[12:38] <xenkey> I'm running fine on 4GB
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[12:42] <durm> mb it's too slow SD
[12:43] <xenkey> I'm using a class 10 card
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[12:45] <durm> me too
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[13:52] <IrishTechnician> Greetings
[13:53] <xenkey> Greetings
[13:54] <IrishTechnician> I have come seeking assistance
[13:54] <at0m> just explain the problem
[13:55] <IrishTechnician> I have a rpi2, a fresh 8gb card with noobs, hit the raspbian os, went through that download and now when trying to login get a 'cannot allocate memory' error
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[13:56] <IrishTechnician> More specifically, "Cannot execute /bin/bash: Cannot allocate memory" when putting in username and password
[13:57] <IrishTechnician> Very new to linux as a whole, so I am unsure how to troubleshoot without the ability to login
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[14:00] <IrishTechnician> Could it be noobs mis-allocating swap space on the card, making it too small or something?
[14:03] <xenkey> Hmm
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[14:03] <xenkey> IrishTechnician: did you buy the sd card with noobs on it?
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[14:04] <IrishTechnician> xenkey: No it was a generic samsung card I bought
[14:04] <xenkey> Alright
[14:04] <xenkey> And how did you burn the noobs image onto it?
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[14:05] <IrishTechnician> I followed the instructions on rpi's web page. First formatting the card using SDFormatter v4, the copying the noobs files on a windows machine
[14:05] <xenkey> Do you have access to a linux machine?
[14:05] <IrishTechnician> Noobs lite v1.4 for reference
[14:06] <IrishTechnician> No, all household machines are windows unfortunately
[14:06] <xenkey> Hmm
[14:06] <IrishTechnician> I could create a second bootable os or a live usb or something
[14:06] <xenkey> Do you have some sort of shell when starting up?
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[14:07] <IrishTechnician> On the rpi? Yes, three distinct steps during bootup, first is a rainbow test image, second is noobs telling me to hold shift to enter recovery, third is a shell running through a large number of steps ending in a logon prompt
[14:08] <IrishTechnician> The first two are fast, the third not so much
[14:08] <xenkey> Alright, and the memory allocation error happens when you try to login?
[14:09] <IrishTechnician> Yes, also during the shell there are a couple of red warning messages, I am unsure if relevant
[14:09] <xenkey> Of course, what do they say?
[14:10] <IrishTechnician> They are skipped automatically and the shell continues with its script, please give me a minute, I will reboot and try to catch them as they go by
[14:10] <xenkey> Alright
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[14:10] <xenkey> Press shift + pgup/dn to scroll in the tty
[14:10] <xenkey> Perhaps it was scroll lock + arrow keys
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[14:11] <tawr> might be in dmesg also, worth greping
[14:13] <IrishTechnician> Cheers for those, it made it easier to copy them. Message reads:
[14:13] <IrishTechnician> [FAIL] startpar: service(s) returned failure: bootlogs cgroup-bin dhcpcd ifplugs rsyslog sudo triggerhappy cron dbus avahi-daemon dphy-swapfile ntp rsync ssh plymouth rc.local rmnologin ... failed!
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[14:14] <IrishTechnician> The shift + pgup was the correct one in my case
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[14:15] <xenkey> woah
[14:15] <xenkey> All those failed?
[14:16] <xenkey> I'd just try reburning the sd card
[14:18] <IrishTechnician> Would you recommend noobs or direct 'burning' raspbian?
[14:19] <qubitnerd> im too noob to use noobs :P
[14:20] <qubitnerd> IrishTechnician: did you find noobs nice to use ? then go with it
[14:20] <qubitnerd> if you can dd without nuking your hdd then you may burn raspbian
[14:20] <xenkey> I'd recommend raspbian
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[14:21] <xenkey> What's everyone using their Pi for at this moment in time?
[14:21] <IrishTechnician> qubitnerd: I did, but had the network version and don't want to redownload it. I will try direct raspbian
[14:21] <at0m> xenkey: for irssi?
[14:21] <xenkey> at0m: boooring
[14:21] <qubitnerd> my pi is gathering dust at home atm :(
[14:21] <xenkey> :-P
[14:21] <IrishTechnician> My plan was to move my nzb stuff to it, 'freeing' my main machine .... stopped at the first hurtle though :/
[14:22] <qubitnerd> (im not at home)
[14:22] <xenkey> I'm using mine as a router atm
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[14:22] <at0m> xenkey: xmppd, httpd, mumbled, mpd. but not atm
[14:22] <NedScott> hmm, this GPIO joystick driver seems to not want to use three buttons at a time
[14:22] <at0m> ew slow router at that
[14:22] <NedScott> weird
[14:22] <xenkey> I needed something like an ad-hoc network but apparently my card was too bad
[14:23] <xenkey> at0m: ah nice
[14:23] <xenkey> nothing using the gpio
[14:23] <at0m> another does motion
[14:23] <xenkey> ?
[14:23] <at0m> another pi has wolfson audio card as recoring box
[14:23] <xenkey> How many do you have?
[14:23] <at0m> recording even
[14:23] <at0m> 2
[14:23] <xenkey> <at0m> ew slow router at that
[14:23] <at0m> err 2 pi2B, one old B
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[14:23] <xenkey> wait what
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[14:24] <at0m> xenkey: a router that does all its routing IO over same usb bus? that's very slow right?
[14:24] <xenkey> Not really, works out at under 1 ms for a round trip from one connected device to another
[14:24] <at0m> max ~2MB/s ?
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[14:25] <xenkey> uh
[14:25] <xenkey> 6.6MB/s
[14:25] <xenkey> or 53mbps
[14:25] <at0m> in and out at the same time?
[14:26] <at0m> or just w pi as endpoint
[14:26] <IrishTechnician> Nice, internal network or are you on fiber?
[14:27] <xenkey> I have no clue at0m
[14:27] <xenkey> I need to do some speedtests
[14:28] <at0m> xenkey: as router, i suppose your pi's LAN is on your modem/isp box, and you got wifi on the usb or another usb lan port?
[14:28] <at0m> then clients are on that usb wifi connection
[14:28] * ozzzy thinks he'll run Win10 onto the laptop
[14:28] <xenkey> There's no ISP box or modem
[14:28] <xenkey> It's not connected to the internet in any way
[14:29] <at0m> you said it's a *router*
[14:29] <xenkey> Just a neat little way for me to control my dslr connected to my pi from a distance
[14:29] <xenkey> routes packets from one device to another, works as a router :P
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[14:31] <nid0> but all on one network. so its a switch, not a router
[14:31] <at0m> xenkey: you know about motion? i do timelapses w it. no dslr, just usb cam
[14:32] <xenkey> nope, not used it
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[14:43] <IrishTechnician> xenkey: The new raspbian image lets me login, cheers for your help
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[15:00] <Davespice> has anyone found they can't get onto the ssl ports of freenode servers right now?
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[15:12] <at0m> Davespice: i take it existing connections don't count?
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[16:12] <woshty> hello, what kind of official images are there? are there different ones for b and 2? what is a nice, compact one for non-media-center use for the original b?
[16:14] <TheLostAdmin> woshty: see http://www.raspberrypi.org/
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[16:17] <Tenkawa> hi all
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[16:35] <xenkey> Yo
[16:36] <bryanthompson> Hi all. I have two B+’s with Pidora installed and have been running headlessly just fine for a couple months. I picked up three more yesterday and prepped the SD cards exactly the same as the ones that are running, but when I power the Pis up, they each give solid red power LED and the activity LED lights up and seems to fade in about 1.5 seconds.
[16:36] <bryanthompson> If i swap the SD card to one of the B+’s that have been running fine, they boot up without problems.
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[16:36] <bryanthompson> What are the odds that I got three bad pi’s? Seems impossible.
[16:37] <nid0> are the new ones you got definitely b+'s, or pi2's?
[16:37] <xenkey> Five pis...
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[16:37] <bryanthompson> B+ v 1.2
[16:37] <nid0> because if theyre in fact pi2's and you're using an old image from before support was added, that'd cause exactly what you describe
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[16:39] <bryanthompson> that makes sense. I’m looking at the box & boards, though, and they def say B+ V1.2
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[16:39] <nid0> the etching on the boards themselves say theyre b+'s?
[16:40] <Gilthanaz> Hi guys! Anyone aware of USB issues with RPi2(B V1.1)? I have issues with "lost packets" and sometimes get "USBController::on_write_data(): USB wirte failure: 12: LIBUSB_TRANSFER_ERROR" in the logs.
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[16:40] <bryanthompson> yes @nid0
[16:40] <nid0> odd then. first up would be to try a different image, load up an sd with a fresh raspbian install for example and see if that works
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[16:40] <nid0> thatll at least narrow your problem down between the devices and the image you're using
[16:41] <bryanthompson> Sounds good, will do that quickly. I notice Pidora is no longer on the Downloads page…
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[16:45] <bryanthompson> thank you @nid0
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[16:51] <Gilthanaz> Ohhh...
[16:51] <Gilthanaz> regarding my USB Issue (USBController::on_write_data(): USB write failure: 12: LIBUSB_TRANSFER_ERROR): It appears the issue was a connected USB mouse that, for some weird reason, flooded the BUS and caused my XB360 controllers to work "choppy".
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[17:05] <DelphiWorld> hi Raspberrians :)
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[17:05] <DelphiWorld> can't i resize my sd card in my rpi?
[17:06] <shiftplusone> DelphiWorld: you can.
[17:06] <shiftplusone> DelphiWorld: if you are running raspbian, it's the first option in raspi-config
[17:06] <DelphiWorld> shiftplusone: please may you help
[17:06] <DelphiWorld> shiftplusone: yep i'm runing raspbian, how should i do it please
[17:07] <shiftplusone> run 'sudo raspi-config'
[17:07] <DelphiWorld> mmmmmmmmmm, i think its not realy raspbian... but raspbian based!
[17:08] <shiftplusone> 'sudo apt-get install raspi-config'
[17:08] <DelphiWorld> unable to locate package raspi-config
[17:09] <shiftplusone> are you familiar with partition tables and filesystems?
[17:09] <DelphiWorld> sadly nope
[17:09] <DelphiWorld> i'm blind
[17:09] <DelphiWorld> and using tts
[17:09] <DelphiWorld> so that could make me a lot confused when reading those info
[17:09] <shiftplusone> Hm, this might be tricky.
[17:09] <DelphiWorld> :)
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[17:10] <shiftplusone> Not sure if I can help properly right now.
[17:10] <DelphiWorld> just suggest:-P
[17:10] <DelphiWorld> or i could just reinstall to raspbian, nothing important in my sd right now
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[17:10] <shiftplusone> yeah, if you can get tts going on it afterwards
[17:11] <DelphiWorld> shiftplusone: nope, i login to it using ssh
[17:11] <DelphiWorld> from a win laptop
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[17:11] <shiftplusone> that will work
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[17:11] <DelphiWorld> yep
[17:11] <shiftplusone> I don't know how well raspi-config will work with TTS though
[17:11] <DelphiWorld> i'm doing that allready right now into my pi
[17:11] <DelphiWorld> shiftplusone: raspiconfig is ncurses based?
[17:11] <shiftplusone> yes
[17:12] <DelphiWorld> that can be a lot crazy ;)
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[17:12] <shiftplusone> it's the first option, so it should just be a matter of hitting enter a few times and exiting, but I don't know the exact sequence off the top of my head
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[17:13] <DelphiWorld> shiftplusone: last question, raspbian is single image both for Rpi and Rpi2?
[17:14] <shiftplusone> yes
[17:14] <DelphiWorld> crap, if i reinstall it'll be dificult to reconfigure wireless! cause i dont have wired now ;(
[17:14] <DelphiWorld> i duno if i could resize on windows...
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[17:21] <DelphiWorld> someone give me raspbian repo?
[17:21] <faLUCE> hello, where can I find a deb package for mariadb ? It seems vanished from everywhere
[17:22] <shiftplusone> DelphiWorld: what do you need the repo for?
[17:22] <DelphiWorld> shiftplusone: for getting raspi-config
[17:22] <shiftplusone> that's in the archive.raspberrypi.org repo
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[17:23] <shiftplusone> /debian
[17:23] <DelphiWorld> shiftplusone: please give me the full deb *** line if you could
[17:23] <shiftplusone> http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian/pool/main/r/raspi-config/raspi-config_20150706_all.deb
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[17:24] <DelphiWorld> thank shiftplusone !
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[17:25] <DelphiWorld> shiftplusone, sory but i should add the apt line to my sources.list. .deb alone isn't enough complaining about deps...
[17:26] <shiftplusone> I stick to supporting stock foundation raspbian image nowadays
[17:27] <Davespice> folks
[17:27] <DelphiWorld> shiftplusone: yeah but special case... jessie :)
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[17:27] <Davespice> anyone here familiar with the Pi watchdog?
[17:27] <shiftplusone> DelphiWorld: Jessie is not supported yet
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[17:27] <Davespice> for some reason, during it startup the watchdog keep alive daemon stops when the main watchdog starts and vica versa during shutdown
[17:27] <Davespice> anyone know why?
[17:27] <DelphiWorld> shiftplusone: yeah, and i'm runing jessie in my pi
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[18:31] <DelphiWorld> is there win10 to try on the pi yet?
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[18:32] <ShorTie> been
[18:32] <t3chguy> yes DelphiWorld
[18:32] <t3chguy> google: Windows IoT Edition
[18:32] <DelphiWorld> t3chguy: free?
[18:33] <t3chguy> as far as I know
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[18:44] <John[Lisbeth]> Ok so I am in my pi 2 for the first time
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[18:44] <John[Lisbeth]> got everything set up for the first time and hooked up into the internet
[18:44] <DelphiWorld> John[Lisbeth]: congra
[18:44] <John[Lisbeth]> i am operating in the shell without x, intentionally
[18:44] <John[Lisbeth]> thanks
[18:44] <John[Lisbeth]> I am trying to fix my keyboard layout, because the hash key prints this symbol £
[18:45] <t3chguy> dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[18:45] <t3chguy> or console-data, whichever is installed
[18:45] <t3chguy> you may need to prefix that command with sudo
[18:45] <t3chguy> John[Lisbeth]: ^
[18:45] <DelphiWorld> :)
[18:45] <John[Lisbeth]> Alright, can you remind me the keybind to switch between terminal windows in linux
[18:45] <John[Lisbeth]> Cause I am stuck in IRSSI right now and I don't want to close it
[18:46] <t3chguy> Ctrl+Meta+F(N)
[18:46] <t3chguy> (N) being 1-7
[18:46] <t3chguy> or however many tty's you've got
[18:46] <t3chguy> Meta often being Esc or Alt
[18:46] <John[Lisbeth]> do I have to log in every time?
[18:46] <John[Lisbeth]> and will that affect anything?
[18:47] <t3chguy> Yes, and no
[18:47] <t3chguy> if you run `who` it'll show you all the sessions that are open
[18:47] <t3chguy> but they're all independent
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[18:47] <John[Lisbeth]> I guess what I am really asking is that is this any different than being logged into multiple terminal windows in x
[18:48] <John[Lisbeth]> and I am trying the dpkg-reconfigure-data console-setup now
[18:48] <t3chguy> In most ways its the same
[18:48] <t3chguy> just virtual tty vs serial tty
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[18:48] <t3chguy> but in all other ways it should be the same
[18:49] <John[Lisbeth]> Alright. Is the dpkg-reconfigure and console-steup two separate commands?
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[18:49] <John[Lisbeth]> cause neither of those are showing up in my path
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[18:50] <t3chguy> what distro are you running?
[18:50] <DelphiWorld> to boot from usb will still i need the sd card?
[18:51] <t3chguy> dpkg-reconfigure is a very core Debian dpkg command
[18:51] <John[Lisbeth]> I am in raspbian
[18:51] <t3chguy> and yes DelphiWorld as the config.txt etc must be on the SD
[18:51] <t3chguy> John[Lisbeth]: Raspbian is based on Debian so should have all the dpkg commands
[18:51] <t3chguy> John[Lisbeth]: try sudoing it, it may be only accessible by the root user
[18:51] <John[Lisbeth]> Alright I have it working now
[18:51] <John[Lisbeth]> I don't know which one to pick out of the list
[18:52] <John[Lisbeth]> I'm guessing utf8 or arm
[18:52] <t3chguy> utf8
[18:52] <t3chguy> but thats not the keyboard layout
[18:52] <t3chguy> it asks you a few pages of questions John[Lisbeth]
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[18:53] <John[Lisbeth]> didn't seem to solve my problem goign through all the prompts
[18:53] <John[Lisbeth]> It didn't give me an option for keyboard layout, though.
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[18:54] <John[Lisbeth]> I can't just edit the file like in arch?
[18:54] <t3chguy> ah wait, in raspbian its a diff package
[18:54] <t3chguy> sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[18:54] <t3chguy> OR
[18:54] <t3chguy> sudo nano /etc/default/keyboard
[18:54] <traeak> t3chguy: seems like i'm runing everything powered off that usb hub...seems to work okay
[18:54] <t3chguy> traeak: nice
[18:55] <traeak> t3chguy: yeah...keeps it just one wall plugin but its kind of a mess
[18:55] <traeak> anyways
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[18:55] <John[Lisbeth]> alright this looks a bit better but I am still pretty lost. It is giving me different keyboard model options. I am using a razr mechanical keyboard I got from bestbuy for $100 american
[18:55] <traeak> red light stayed on even running for cpuburna9's
[18:55] <t3chguy> John[Lisbeth]: just choose the layout and then the sub-layout
[18:55] <traeak> although if i tried to do more on top of it it would flash off sometimes
[18:55] <t3chguy> generally sub-layout default is fine
[18:56] <t3chguy> just choosing country-layout should be fine
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[18:56] <t3chguy> John[Lisbeth]: sounds like your Pi might be in GB keyboard when you need US
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[18:57] <John[Lisbeth]> I don't know what layout to choose to start with
[18:57] <t3chguy> which would make sense since the Foundation is a GB Corporation
[18:57] <John[Lisbeth]> It's giving me hewlett packard and apple II and all this stuff
[18:57] <t3chguy> lol
[18:57] <t3chguy> go with editing the text file I mentioned
[18:57] <John[Lisbeth]> and my double quote sybol is this @
[18:57] <t3chguy> sudo nano /etc/default/keyboard
[18:57] <t3chguy> and change XKBLAYOUT="gb" to "us"
[18:57] <t3chguy> http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/10060/raspbian-keyboard-layout
[18:57] <John[Lisbeth]> The whole line or just hte part in quotes?
[18:57] <t3chguy> just the quotes
[18:58] <traeak> is it ttyusb0 or ttyama0 i want running on the pins?
[18:58] <t3chguy> You will need to reboot
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[18:58] <John[Lisbeth]> Sure thing
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[18:59] <John[Lisbeth]> Alright I am gonna set up shop in my living room cuase my grandma wants her TV. See you guys soon
[18:59] <traeak> just workign with it a little bit the rpi2 is dramatically smoother than my experience was with the original release rpi
[18:59] <John[Lisbeth]> One more question before I go. Since there is no OFF for a raspberry pi, how can I assure that all read/write processes are done and etc when I rip the power out?
[19:00] <t3chguy> traeak: My experience with the original Pi's was extremely limited
[19:00] <t3chguy> John[Lisbeth]: the Green LED will stop flashing
[19:00] <t3chguy> thats the Activity LED
[19:00] <t3chguy> after issuing `sudo poweroff` of course
[19:00] <traeak> t3chguy: i sold mine a few weeks while there was still a shortage of them
[19:00] <John[Lisbeth]> HMMM
[19:00] <t3chguy> lol traeak
[19:00] <traeak> after a few weeks sry
[19:00] <John[Lisbeth]> I might set that to go through the GPIO pins later or somethign cause in my case mod the green LED may not be visible
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[19:01] <traeak> i bought this powered usb hub for the original rpi
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[19:02] <traeak> works far bette rwith the rpi2
[19:02] <xenkey> "Far better" measured how?
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[19:02] <t3chguy> My Freebies from Pimoroni arrived today :)
[19:03] <t3chguy> Arduino Due, Official Raspi Power Supply, Both sets of Raspi Stickers, Raspi Enamel Badge, Gigabit Switch and a Cat5e Patch Cable
[19:03] <t3chguy> all for free :p
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[19:04] <traeak> xenkey: so far it hasn't been hiccuping, dropping key strokes, dropping ethernet, random corruption
[19:04] <t3chguy> using a USB Hub does offer a bottleneck as the USB 2 spec is a little shoddy
[19:04] <t3chguy> so you're limiting everything connected to the hub to the throughput of a single USB Port
[19:04] <traeak> uhh yeah and there's no DMA on the rpi2
[19:04] <xenkey> If it does that then it doesn't work at all, there's no gradation
[19:05] <traeak> xenkey: depends...it would run a little while before starting "to go" iwas trying to push it pretty hard anyways
[19:06] <traeak> t3chguy: the 4 usb's on the rpi2 are on a hub anyways, shared with the ether
[19:06] <traeak> t3chguy: so being screwed with USB is pretty much a given on the rpi
[19:06] <t3chguy> Yeah it is
[19:06] <t3chguy> My Pi is pretty minimal
[19:06] <t3chguy> single Logitech Unify
[19:06] <t3chguy> Ethernet and HDMI
[19:06] <traeak> when i get this going i'll trim down the usb devices
[19:07] <t3chguy> obviously power, and the full GPIO haha
[19:07] <traeak> to a usb sound DAC and a usb midi source
[19:07] <traeak> although if i buy a kawai VPC1 the rpi2 will have to power that entirely
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[19:08] <traeak> worst case its a 500mA device anyways
[19:08] <t3chguy> I think the Pi can, with configuration, supply up to like 900mA to USB
[19:09] <t3chguy> actually, it allows 1.2A to USB
[19:11] <traeak> how much does the rpi2 take for itself under load again ?
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[19:12] <traeak> billy joel uses a kawai vpc1
[19:12] <traeak> its stuck in a faux grand piano cabinet
[19:12] <Gadgetoid> t3chguy: <3
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[19:13] <t3chguy> Gadgetoid: </3
[19:13] <t3chguy> (joking)
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[19:13] <Gadgetoid> Knackered! Just lugged a Picade home to work on the firmware updater
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[19:13] <t3chguy> lugged? Implying it weighs a lot
[19:13] <t3chguy> how much does it weigh?
[19:13] <Gadgetoid> It weighs enough! no idea how much
[19:13] <t3chguy> hahaha
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[19:14] <Gadgetoid> Liftable with one arm, but not the kind of weight you want to carry for 15 minutes
[19:14] <t3chguy> if my order was 5 earlier then I'd have won the Picade kit :P
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[19:15] <t3chguy> not that I am complaining
[19:15] <t3chguy> I am definitely happy with my delivery today haha
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[19:18] <t3chguy> Gadgetoid: did you get a chance to test your alternate Makefile for yourself so you can get the fix pushed into the repo?
[19:18] <t3chguy> Re: Unicorn
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[19:20] <Gadgetoid> Not yet, but I kept using MATE for a while to see what else would work, turns out most things if you compile RPi.GPIO from source
[19:21] <t3chguy> I tested it on Raspbian and all the examples worked
[19:21] <t3chguy> I am gonna keep using Mate though
[19:21] <t3chguy> although there is a lot less support, obviously
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[19:28] <Gadgetoid> I'd support everything if I could find the time, but I'm snowed under as it is ha!
[19:29] <t3chguy> hahaha
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[19:29] <t3chguy> Gadgetoid: is there some magic trick to taking the Unicorn off
[19:29] <t3chguy> I feel like I'm gonna rip the GPIO off xD
[19:29] <Gadgetoid> I tend to wiggle it off
[19:30] <Gadgetoid> But yeah, it's a shame- we used really slimline headers in the older ones but they were reverse insertion headers so the pins were really delicate
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[19:30] <John[Lisbeth]> Alright
[19:30] <John[Lisbeth]> After some fiddling with this BS sony tv and having their rep tell me to google it, Finally set up in the living room
[19:30] <t3chguy> xD
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[19:31] <John[Lisbeth]> I have a pretty large screen, now. So now I am thinking about getting EMACS or some other terminal multiplexer
[19:31] <t3chguy> Gadgetoid: am I right in thinking the Unicorn only uses one pin for data? Also, is it possible to chain multiple Unicorns :P?
[19:31] <t3chguy> John[Lisbeth]: TMUX
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[19:31] <t3chguy> or Byobu with tmux backend
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[19:35] <John[Lisbeth]> Lol
[19:35] <John[Lisbeth]> I think I am more of an emacs guy but thanks for the suggestion
[19:35] <t3chguy> fair enough :P
[19:35] <John[Lisbeth]> I am using this television and I am having alot of trouble seeing cause it's not very bright
[19:36] <John[Lisbeth]> I tried turning the brightness up, but it didn't help very much
[19:36] <DelphiWorld> t3chguy: all americans love emac:P
[19:37] <t3chguy> I can't say I've used emacs itself, ever
[19:37] <t3chguy> I just use emacs keybindings in readline
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[19:37] <t3chguy> I should probably try it
[19:37] <DelphiWorld> t3chguy: could you help me resizing my sd please?
[19:37] <t3chguy> sudo fdisk /dev/mmcblk0
[19:38] <John[Lisbeth]> I've got a raspberry pi 2 with a powered USB hub made specifically for the pi.
[19:38] <t3chguy> d, 2, n, p, 2, [ENTER], [ENTER], w
[19:38] <t3chguy> reboot
[19:38] <DelphiWorld> t3chguy: but i can resize it in my own rpi no need for another host?
[19:38] <t3chguy> sudo resize2fs /dev/mmcblk0p2
[19:38] <t3chguy> DelphiWorld: yep
[19:38] <t3chguy> https://ubuntu-mate.org/raspberry-pi/
[19:38] <t3chguy> read the Re-size file system in there
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[19:38] <t3chguy> its not only for Ubuntu Mate,
[19:38] <DelphiWorld> t3chguy: i tryed it with a spar sd but the entire partition is gone when i deleted it
[19:38] <ShorTie> what that 1st [ENTER]
[19:39] <t3chguy> its just press the enter button
[19:39] <t3chguy> to use the default value
[19:39] <DelphiWorld> t3chguy: you sure? cause i put a xbian in a sd, tryed to resize it but lost all partition
[19:39] <ShorTie> i know what it is and what it does
[19:39] <John[Lisbeth]> So my next step is to install the package "emacs-nox" however it doesn't seem to be available in my repo
[19:39] <t3chguy> Well it worked for me on both Raspbian and Ubuntu Mate
[19:39] <ShorTie> and the default does not always work
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[19:40] <DelphiWorld> ShorTie: so what's the solutio
[19:40] <DelphiWorld> ShorTie: so what's the solution
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[19:42] <ShorTie> 1st list the partition and note where the 1st partition starts
[19:43] <ShorTie> then do that list
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[19:43] <ShorTie> most are enters really
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[19:44] <DelphiWorld> ShorTie: i listed, noted where do 1 start. and?
[19:44] <DelphiWorld> you want to say where 2 start i think, not 1
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[19:46] <DelphiWorld> i removed 2 and recreated it from where it start... and rebooted, i'm sure resize2fs will fail
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[19:47] <DelphiWorld> yep failed, Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock.
[19:47] <Gadgetoid> t3chguy: yes one pin for data, and it's not possible to chain multiple unicorns since there's no D-Out pin, although you could probably jump one on with enamel wire
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[19:55] <DelphiWorld> baaaaaaaaaaaaah... what to do :(
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[19:58] <John[Lisbeth]> so basically
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[19:58] <John[Lisbeth]> I am trying to get the cli version of emacs to run
[19:58] <John[Lisbeth]> though I can't find the package for it. Does that mean I need to compile it myself?
[19:59] <t3chguy> yes John[Lisbeth]
[19:59] <t3chguy> or find a repository that contains it
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[20:04] <John[Lisbeth]> alright
[20:04] <John[Lisbeth]> where can I find a list of repositories?
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[20:05] <t3chguy> the internet
[20:05] <t3chguy> the official repositories will already be added
[20:05] <t3chguy> you'll most likely need a 3rd party one
[20:05] <John[Lisbeth]> RIGHT
[20:05] <John[Lisbeth]> Any good websites for 3rd party repositories?
[20:05] <t3chguy> if you were on Ubuntu I'd say Launchpad for PPAs, I've no idea for Debian
[20:06] <John[Lisbeth]> Ubuntu is not good for the type of development I want to do
[20:06] <John[Lisbeth]> I'll ask in #emacs
[20:06] <t3chguy> what type of development is that
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[20:13] <DelphiWorld> is there any repartitioning tool for windows?
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[20:15] <t3chguy> Diskpart?
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[20:37] <traeak> DelphiWorld: boot a live linux distro then partition :-p
[20:38] <DelphiWorld> traeak: i wish i can, no tts there. i'm blind ;)
[20:38] <traeak> DelphiWorld: no tts on your PC ? that's wierd
[20:42] <DelphiWorld> traeak: tts on windows yes but not on linux live cd:P
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[20:54] <John[Lisbeth]> Everybody say hi to my dad. He is the one who bought me this raspberry pi and accessories :)
[20:55] <John[Lisbeth]> For my bday. Thanks dad!
[20:55] <Gadgetoid> Hi John[Lisbeth]'s dad
[20:55] <Gadgetoid> Did you buy it from us? :D
[20:55] <Lope> anyone running jessie on their pi?
[20:55] <Gadgetoid> I'm running Raspbian on mine Lope .... * snicker *
[20:55] <DelphiWorld> Lope: i do but i wish i didnt run, not complete and raspi-config is not there
[20:55] <Gadgetoid> I have tried a dist-upgrade to jessie before, which was... fun
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[20:56] <DelphiWorld> i wish i can go back to raspbian
[20:56] <t3chguy> lol
[20:56] <Gadgetoid> That's what a handful of SD cards are for
[20:57] <Lope> you guys aren't making much sense. To run jessie you just download the official raspbian and after upgrading you swap your apt repositories from wheezy to Jessie.
[20:57] <t3chguy> or Bootberry :P
[20:57] <t3chguy> BerryBoot**
[20:57] <Lope> It's still raspbian.
[20:57] <t3chguy> always say it the wrong darn way around
[20:58] <John[Lisbeth]> Gotta go offline due to poor powering infrastructure
[20:58] <John[Lisbeth]> be back later or tomorrow
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[21:03] <xenkey> What can I do with a Pi, a wireless card, a 5000mAh battery, a DSLR camera, a kindle and a netbook?
[21:04] <xenkey> Is controlling a DSLR from a tablet too far fetched?
[21:04] <Gilthanaz> That depends what's legal in your country :>
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[21:04] <xenkey> Uh
[21:04] <xenkey> I'm running a WiFI network and I've not been arrested yet
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[21:05] <Gilthanaz> Well, you asked what you could do; Then again, local laws dont make you not do anything, they probably either prevent or get you arrested, and... nevermind. My head is weird.
[21:05] <Gilthanaz> Well what do you want to do?
[21:05] <xenkey> I do have other things aside from the wifi adapter
[21:05] <xenkey> I have streaming video in mind
[21:05] <t3chguy> get a gimbal
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[21:06] <xenkey> I can't get anything, this is all I have
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[21:06] <t3chguy> and you can then have a moving camera
[21:06] <t3chguy> aw that sucks
[21:06] <xenkey> Oh fuck that's cool
[21:06] <t3chguy> xD
[21:06] <xenkey> I want a car
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[21:07] <xenkey> Let's look at pictures of cars
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[21:07] <xenkey> Hm
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[21:08] <Gilthanaz> You could get a movement sensor
[21:08] <Gilthanaz> put it somewhere and have it take pictures of, i dont know, whatever triggers the sensor
[21:08] <xenkey> So I can't do anything with this without buying more stuff?
[21:08] <Gilthanaz> and auto-upload to the net :p
[21:08] <xenkey> Sounds good
[21:08] <xenkey> What about some object detection
[21:09] <t3chguy> Gadgetoid: using the Unicorn on a Due should be easy, right?
[21:09] <Gilthanaz> Well i'm not sure what you mean with "anything", if you have a RPi you can make a retro gaming station out of it (retropie) or a media center (DLNA/UPNP client), ...
[21:09] <Gilthanaz> You can use it to surf and do office stuff, ...
[21:09] <t3chguy> Well, if someone wrote a lib for it
[21:09] <t3chguy> I mean, h/w wise
[21:09] <t3chguy> I could run one off each PWM pin :3
[21:09] <xenkey> Hm
[21:09] <xenkey> I'm thinking something a bit more portable
[21:09] <Gadgetoid> t3chguy: I don't know if the ws2812 code has been ported to the Due, possibly!
[21:10] <t3chguy> I mean h/w wise
[21:10] <t3chguy> 3.3V PWM
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[21:10] <xenkey> Right now I'm running a wireless hotspot, maybe there's some cool things I can do with that
[21:10] <t3chguy> to me sounds the same as the Pi's output
[21:11] <t3chguy> Gadgetoid: there's an Adafruit Arduino Lib for the Neopixels
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[21:11] <t3chguy> o_O the ws2812's run at 800kHz?
[21:12] <t3chguy> oooh I also have a Neopixel ring :3
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[21:12] <xenkey> I want to get started with GPIO, what do I need to buy?
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[21:13] <t3chguy> xenkey: LEDs, jumper cables, maybe a breadboard, and whatever other components you wish to use
[21:13] <t3chguy> or a starter kit
[21:13] <xenkey> Are there any recommended starter kits?
[21:13] <xenkey> Or am I better off buying the things indivudually?
[21:13] <t3chguy> what would you like to do with your Pi in the end?
[21:13] <t3chguy> or just learn
[21:13] <Gilthanaz> Well, there are several starter kits, depending on what you want
[21:13] <xenkey> Just learn
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[21:14] <Gilthanaz> for GPIO... let me check
[21:14] <Kamilion> http://www.dxsoul.com/product/arduno-37-in-1-sensor-module-kit-black-901142834
[21:14] <xenkey> I want to do some simple real-world interaction involving the sort of things you'd learn in the first month of learning a new language
[21:14] <Gilthanaz> This is awesome: http://www.amazon.de/SunFounder-modules-Raspberry-Sensor-Extension/dp/B00HU0G9TO
[21:14] <Kamilion> this one's my favorite to mess with, xenkey
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[21:14] <Gilthanaz> LOL, i think we just linked both the same kit
[21:14] <xenkey> For example text adventures, some loops, lights
[21:14] <Gilthanaz> 37 sensors :D
[21:15] <xenkey> Hoooly
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[21:15] <t3chguy> erm Gadgetoid, the Neopixel Rings you offer use the same tech as the Unicorn, right?
[21:15] <Kamilion> yeah, I've got a parts box with all kinds of goodies from various projects I've done
[21:15] <t3chguy> the page says they are incompatible with Linux based Microcontrollers
[21:15] <Gilthanaz> You can play with that for like, ages
[21:15] <Gilthanaz> for the "main kit" i usually get this one:
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[21:15] <Gilthanaz> http://www.amazon.de/Vilros-Raspberry-Complete-Starter-Wesentlich/dp/B00X43WUQ2/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1438888534&sr=1-2&keywords=raspberry+pi+2+kit
[21:15] <Gilthanaz> Sorry, all my stuff is on german amazon, but you get the idea :)
[21:15] <Gadgetoid> t3chguy: yup!
[21:16] <Kamilion> Gilthanaz: might wanna check out dx.com
[21:16] <Gilthanaz> Kamilion: Ah?
[21:16] <t3chguy> Gadgetoid: the page says they are incompatible with Linux based Microcontrollers
[21:16] <xenkey> looks pretty boring to me
[21:16] <Gadgetoid> t3chguy: they will work with the Raspberry Pi, but anyone who's competent enough to get them working ( like you're demostrating ) will know that :D
[21:16] <Kamilion> Gilthanaz: seems you're overspending for cheap chinese componentry ;)
[21:16] <Gadgetoid> And anyone else is a support nightmare :D
[21:16] <t3chguy> hahaha
[21:16] <t3chguy> gotta say
[21:16] <Gilthanaz> Kamilion: Might be, but Amazon Prime over night :P
[21:16] <t3chguy> the Unicorn is awesome
[21:16] <Gilthanaz> I'am not a patient man :(
[21:16] <Gadgetoid> It's... so... bright
[21:16] <xenkey> I'm thinking more simple LEDs, buttons, displays and keypads
[21:16] <Kamilion> *chuckles*
[21:16] <t3chguy> hell yeah
[21:16] <Gilthanaz> xenkey: hang on...
[21:16] <Gadgetoid> Shame it has to use a weird hack to make it work
[21:16] <t3chguy> I found a text-scroller lib for the Unicorn
[21:17] <t3chguy> it defaults to 100% brightness white
[21:17] <t3chguy> its insane
[21:17] <Kamilion> xenkey: keypads are usually some weird beasts
[21:17] <Gilthanaz> xenkey: http://www.amazon.de/Sunfounder-Project-Raspberry-Extension-Resistors/dp/B00HU0Z4C2/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1438888620&sr=1-2&keywords=raspberry+kit+leds
[21:17] <t3chguy> looks like Adafruit support the Neopixel Arduino Lib :D
[21:17] <t3chguy> actually have something to use my Arduino for except flashing its 3 on-board LEDs xD
[21:18] <xenkey> Gilthanaz: looks good
[21:18] <Kamilion> http://www.dxsoul.com/product/pro-micro-atmega-32u4-5v-16mhz-development-board-module-for-arduino-deep-blue-901320958 <-- tiny arduino-compat modules here.
[21:18] <Kamilion> these guys are my favorite for hot-glueing into something
[21:18] <xenkey> What about if I only have about £15-£20
[21:18] <Kamilion> xenkey: car boot sale
[21:18] <Gilthanaz> I dont know, a six pack or two?
[21:18] <Kamilion> *laughs*
[21:19] <Kamilion> go to a swap meet.
[21:19] <Gilthanaz> Sorry i'm no good with very low budget :)
[21:19] <Kamilion> or find a local club of hackers
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[21:20] <xenkey> Is a local fishing club ok?
[21:20] <Kamilion> in some cases. Do they use flashing LED lures?
[21:21] <Kamilion> or the better question, do they WANT to? :3
[21:21] <xenkey> Yes they do
[21:21] <xenkey> Are glowsticks okay
[21:21] <xenkey> For some reason Pis don't work underwater
[21:21] <t3chguy> hmm Gadgetoid it looks like the Neopixels need 5V Source, but is the Data output being limited to 3.3V alright or not? (I'm assuming the same limitation exists on the Pi)
[21:21] <Kamilion> That's more of a general electronics thing.
[21:22] <xenkey> No my electric fishing net works just fine
[21:22] <xenkey> Must be a Pi problem
[21:22] <Kamilion> it'd be possible to get a pi conformally coated with resin epoxy, and then it would work underwater.
[21:22] <Gadgetoid> t3chguy: the HAT has a logic level converter I believe, but you might find they run fine with data at 3v3 and power at 5
[21:22] <xenkey> If I put the Pi in a condom, surely it'd do the same thing
[21:22] <Gilthanaz> Actually i think it would be pretty easy to get a PI to work under water
[21:22] <t3chguy> ah right, got a model number for that converted Gadgetoid just in case I need to get ahold of one
[21:22] <Gilthanaz> the voltages should be way too low to short out...
[21:22] <Gilthanaz> *ponders*
[21:23] <Gilthanaz> BRB testing something in the aquarium.
[21:23] <xenkey> *plonk*
[21:23] <xenkey> Nope
[21:23] <xenkey> Doesn't work
[21:23] <xenkey> All fish ded
[21:23] <Kamilion> Gilthanaz: it's actually the impurities in the water that conduct
[21:23] <Kamilion> Gilthanaz: pure water is an insulator
[21:23] <xenkey> really
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[21:23] <Gilthanaz> Kamilion: Thank you, as electrical engineer i'm aware of that :P
[21:23] <Kamilion> like pure being, lab-made
[21:23] <Gilthanaz> Yeah, distilled water does not conduct
[21:23] <Gilthanaz> clean oil neither, but it's great for heat transmission.
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[21:23] <Gilthanaz> I've seen motherboards in oil bathes way more than i like to admin :P
[21:24] <xenkey> do fish conduct
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[21:24] <t3chguy> Well, the Adafruit page mentions it works with the Due and doesn't mention any need to step-up the 3v3
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[21:26] <Gilthanaz> xenkey: yeah
[21:26] <Gadgetoid> I apparently suck at Street Fighter
[21:26] <Gilthanaz> Gadgetoid: Awww. :(
[21:26] <DelphiWorld> i will use raspbian-ua-netinst
[21:27] <t3chguy> lol
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[21:36] <t3chguy> soldered detachable 3 pin Servo lead onto my Neopixel ring
[21:36] <t3chguy> time to make the other end and hook it into my Arduino then some programming :3
[21:39] <Gadgetoid> Apparently I also suck at Turrican
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[21:40] <t3chguy> I'm not sure if you brought it home to upgrade the bootloader or just to try your luck at the games haha
[21:41] <niston> Turrican, heh
[21:41] <Gadgetoid> Hahaha
[21:42] <Gadgetoid> Nah, I'm testing my new firmware damnit!
[21:42] <Gadgetoid> I rewrote the button handling code to give every button its own debounce timer
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[21:42] <t3chguy> so you're doing the fixes which to test you need to play on purpose haha
[21:42] <Gadgetoid> And changed the volume control to be push-and-hold
[21:42] <Gadgetoid> Yeah :D
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[21:43] <qwyos> Quick question - what does Raspbian use - XFCE or LXDE? I always confuse those two and surprisingly it's not a straightforward answer to find on Google.
[21:44] <Gadgetoid> I personally flashed and tested nearly every PCB and wore out my poor finger :D Hell if I'm not going to play the thing
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[21:44] <niston> Gadgetoid: I need to do the same thing to my radio firmware
[21:45] <niston> pimpin' the button handling code
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[21:45] <niston> but Im lazy :p
[21:45] <Gadgetoid> I ended up using an interrupt on timer 1 to poll the button states
[21:45] <t3chguy> IT WORKS!
[21:46] <t3chguy> Its blinding
[21:46] <t3chguy> but it works!
[21:46] <t3chguy> jesus christ
[21:46] <Gadgetoid> Hahahaha, a blinding ring?
[21:46] <t3chguy> yeah
[21:46] <t3chguy> on my Due
[21:46] <Gadgetoid> It's not bright enough if you can still see it
[21:46] <t3chguy> the full brightness green is killer
[21:46] <t3chguy> I've turned it upside down xD
[21:46] <t3chguy> O_O
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[21:46] <t3chguy> the antistatic bag it comes in makes a great filter
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[21:48] <t3chguy> Gadgetoid: I'm warned to add a 1000uF Cap across Vcc and Gnd, do you suggest I do so?
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[21:49] <t3chguy> also apparently a 300-500 Ohm Resistor between data and neopixel
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[21:49] <Gadgetoid> Yeah you're supposed to do that to protect them, never been a problem for me
[21:49] <Gadgetoid> Only time I've killed a neopixel is from soldering a stick a little too aggressively
[21:49] <Gadgetoid> And then I just crunched it off with pliers and bridged to the next one
[21:49] <t3chguy> I'll get ahold of the cap, I'm guessing the 3v3 data will render the other warning moot
[21:50] <t3chguy> lol
[21:51] <SyncYourDogmas> Hey just to sanity check, theres no way to conver a wifi adapter for passive radar right?
[21:51] <Gadgetoid> If there was, I wouldn't know it :D
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[21:52] <SyncYourDogmas> It is a hardware problem I think...bugger
[21:53] <t3chguy> I
[21:53] <t3chguy> NEED
[21:53] <t3chguy> MORE
[21:53] <t3chguy> NEOPIXELS
[21:53] <niston> SyncYourDogmas: http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/133936-using-wifi-to-see-through-walls
[21:53] <Gadgetoid> We've got you covered...
[21:53] <t3chguy> Damn you Pimoroni, I've gone NeoPixel mad
[21:53] <Gadgetoid> Only £36! http://shop.pimoroni.com/products/neopixel-1-4-60-ring-ws2812-5050-rgb-led-w-integrated-drivers
[21:53] <t3chguy> I was gonna get that haha
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[21:54] <t3chguy> I was thinking of getting each size of ring
[21:54] <niston> but I don't think they're using a generic wifi adapter as their RF front end
[21:54] <t3chguy> and sticking them to a board
[21:54] <t3chguy> evenly
[21:54] <Gadgetoid> I have two segments of it or something silly like that
[21:54] <t3chguy> lol
[21:54] <Gadgetoid> Oo, clock kind of thing?
[21:54] <sockofleas> can 2 GPIO outputs be on at the same time?
[21:54] <t3chguy> I guess that could be a use for it
[21:54] <t3chguy> I just had a better idea
[21:54] <t3chguy> using 8 of the Neopixel Sticks
[21:54] <t3chguy> as a spectrum analyser
[21:54] <t3chguy> 8 band
[21:54] <niston> perhaps an SDR stick would work
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[21:54] <ali1234> hey Gadgetoid; how come the driver for those things doesn't use SPI?
[21:55] <t3chguy> then again I could just use the Unicorn for the same resolution
[21:55] <ali1234> and then claims you need an a MHz processor
[21:55] <ali1234> 8MHz
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[21:55] <t3chguy> ali1234: probably ask AdaFruit
[21:55] <ali1234> ugh
[21:55] <SyncYourDogmas> Gadgetoid: very cool, but I mean more radio based radar for aircraft
[21:56] <SyncYourDogmas> And yeah they fly past close enough...
[21:56] <t3chguy> Need to turn down the brightness
[21:56] <t3chguy> ring is getting hot
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[21:56] <SyncYourDogmas> Different antenna I suppose :(
[21:56] <ali1234> i believe the neopixels use a mark/space protocol
[21:56] <t3chguy> they do ali1234
[21:56] <ali1234> which can easily be emulated with SPI
[21:57] <ali1234> just send 1000 or 1110
[21:57] <ali1234> for 0 and 1 respectively
[21:57] <ali1234> you have no particular high timing requirements then
[21:57] <ali1234> just keep the buffer filled
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[22:06] <SyncYourDogmas> Seems to track a transponder I just need DVB-T tuner
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[22:07] <UberSlackr> Is there a way to add more GPIO pins to the Pi? like a Hat?
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[22:08] <ali1234> yes
[22:08] <ali1234> there are loads of hats for that
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[22:09] <UberSlackr> Where would I find one?
[22:09] <UberSlackr> didnt see one on adafruit
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[22:12] <UberSlackr> I need one that has like additional CLK
[22:12] <UberSlackr> pin
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[22:12] <ali1234> depends what you want to do with it
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[22:13] <UberSlackr> Try to create a Scrolling marquee for my bar; two of them. Want to run them from one Pi
[22:14] <UberSlackr> but there is only one CLK pin on the pi
[22:14] <UberSlackr> and the MAX7219 chip uses the CLK pin
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[22:15] <ali1234> well, i disagree
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[22:16] <ali1234> i suppose you want SPI CLK
[22:16] <UberSlackr> Disagree with what?
[22:16] <ali1234> there's multile clock pins on a raspberry pi but they are different
[22:16] <ali1234> SCL is a clock as well
[22:16] <UberSlackr> Yeah sorry SPI clock
[22:17] <UberSlackr> CLK*
[22:17] <ali1234> anyway all you need to do is use chip select on SPI
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[22:17] <ali1234> then you can use two chips on the SPI port
[22:17] <McBride36> would VCC go to mains on this relay? http://imgur.com/a/PStAK
[22:18] <UberSlackr> VCC would be the power 3v 5v no?
[22:19] <McBride36> not sure
[22:19] <McBride36> can't find a datasheet
[22:19] <UberSlackr> Its the 5v
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[22:21] <UberSlackr> or guess could be 3v depending on how much power you want to intake?
[22:21] <UberSlackr> VCC = Voltage "Something' Collector (i believe)
[22:22] <Stmeter> My ceiling fan operates at 303.875MHz, is there a set of receiver/transponder I can buy to replicate the codes?
[22:22] <McBride36> it's a two dollar module someone i know bought off of ebay
[22:23] <Stmeter> I know that they have transmitters/receivers for 315/433. I haven't seen one for around 303.
[22:23] <McBride36> and looks like it's showing its value rn
[22:23] <UberSlackr> ali1234: I've never used chip select SPI; I will look into that thanks for the tip
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[22:30] <fluffet> if I have a command line argument application that needs a string, how do I send a file to it?
[22:30] <fluffet> like with the < > things I have seen people do
[22:30] <at0m> fluffet: "quote it"
[22:30] <fluffet> yeah
[22:30] <fluffet> but I have seen people send files
[22:30] <fluffet> like
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[22:30] <jer> like: foo < file
[22:30] <fluffet> python3 some_app.py -m < file
[22:30] <jer> that will pipe the contents of file into stdin
[22:31] <fluffet> is it that simple?
[22:31] <jer> that does something different than what you asked for
[22:31] <jer> < file is not a command line argument
[22:31] <jer> and if your command line program doesn't read on the standard input, that won't work
[22:31] <fluffet> well if i have some file like some_file.txt that contains "hello world"
[22:32] <jer> sure so in your script, you could read text off stdin; then piping a file into your app using < will work
[22:32] <jer> but if your program is reading the arguments, it won't
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[22:33] <fluffet> it looks like you could use sys-stdin.read() in the script then
[22:33] <fluffet> sys.stdin.read() , do you think that would work?
[22:33] <jer> probably, try it =]
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[22:34] <jer> this is how real software is written too btw; develop a thought about how it could work, try it out, debug... repeat as necessary =]
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[22:34] <fluffet> yeah its just argparsing that's left of my project now ^^
[22:35] <jer> again; this isn't argument related
[22:35] <jer> it's based around file descriptors
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[22:35] <fluffet> yeah, i didn't know that :)
[22:35] <jer> that's ok, just want to make sure that's clear, because it's very different
[22:35] <jer> =]
[22:35] <fluffet> yeah
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[22:36] <fluffet> users should be able to supply a string or pipe a file
[22:36] <jer> yeah
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[22:37] <fluffet> argparse module in python is a pain though
[22:38] <fluffet> any ideas how you add arguments that depend on another?
[22:38] <ShadowJK> Are you specifically talking about using python?
[22:38] <fluffet> yes
[22:38] <ShadowJK> C has popen which kinda does what you want
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[22:39] <fluffet> Basically my program has two uses. One needs 3 flags after the action flag, the other just needs one
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[23:24] <Gadgetoid> Just published a Picade (the new board) firmware update if anyone's got one
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[23:26] <nid0> Gadgetoid, while you're there, quick question and sorry if the answer's easily mentioned anywhere - does the piglow have an eeprom of any kind to store&run lighting patterns?
[23:27] <Gadgetoid> Negatory, no eeprom- it's just a very, very dumb constant current LED driver chip
[23:27] <Gadgetoid> You could pair it with a cheap Arduino board, I wrote a quick-n-dirty Piglow Arduino driver years ago
[23:29] <nid0> bummer, thanks - unless arduinos have changed a bit in the years since I last used one pairing it with one won't really help, i'm looking for some easy and uncomplicated board that'll begin running a defined led display the instant it gets power
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[23:29] <nid0> and obv arduinos do have a boot time :)
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[23:37] <SyncYourDogmas> nid0: would a startup script not work?
[23:37] <SyncYourDogmas> Ah board not fullblown pi?
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[23:40] <t3chguy> nid0: a PIC chip sounds like what you want
[23:41] <nid0> SyncYourDogmas: basically what i'm after is some kind of visual indicator that the pi is booting, that literally just runs from the time the pi gets power to the time its done booting, so anything pi controlled is no good :)
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[23:42] <nid0> t3chguy: yeah i'm aware I can go down the manual route, i'm not (yet) desperate enough to do so though and have been vaguely hoping to come across a built board thatll do it for me
[23:42] <t3chguy> lol
[23:42] <t3chguy> I need help
[23:42] <t3chguy> I've been staring at this NeoPixel ring for hours
[23:42] <t3chguy> its become an addiction
[23:43] <nid0> when I started looking I genuinely didn't think some kind of led countdown circuit that doesn't rely on an external controller would be that rare
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[23:46] <Gadgetoid> nid0: could use a raw AVR and program it from a Pi, no bootloader, no delay
[23:46] <Gadgetoid> Actually, I believe some AVRs boot straight up into the main program code instead of the bootloader- the 32u4 used on the Leonardo for example
[23:47] <SyncYourDogmas> nid0: short of editing init itself....do you boot to level 5 or whatever x11 uses? You could run a script in an earlier run level
[23:47] * Gadgetoid replugs his 32u4 board just to be sure
[23:47] <Gadgetoid> It's all about that sweet, sweet, boot reset vector
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[23:48] <SyncYourDogmas> Although not entirely accurate I suppose
[23:48] <nid0> SyncYourDogmas: I'm using systemd but this total boot time is only 5.3 seconds so even waiting the ~2 secs for the kernel to load then starting it up first then kinda defeats the point
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[23:49] <nid0> Gadgetoid: cheers, would be handy to know for reference if I do go that route
[23:49] <t3chguy> where to put these damn Raspberry Pi stickers
[23:49] <t3chguy> hmm
[23:49] <SyncYourDogmas> My final silly thought software wise would be to point a webcam at a voltmeter, and detect the jump im voltage. I really need to learn some ee
[23:50] <t3chguy> lol
[23:50] <t3chguy> surely you mean Ammeter?
[23:51] <SyncYourDogmas> Yes
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[23:51] <SyncYourDogmas> Lol, I know that much when pressed to think
[23:53] <t3chguy> a few Pimoroni reviews to write tomorrow :)
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[23:54] <SyncYourDogmas> If there beginner orientated point me. Typical programmer, code amything, useless with wires though
[23:57] <t3chguy> hmm Gadgetoid do you happen to know if http://shop.pimoroni.com/products/hook-up-wire-spool-set is solid core or stranded?
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