#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-08-09

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[1:15] <fr0nk> hi
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[1:17] <fr0nk> I've been setting up an emulationstation (retropi distribution) on a raspi 1. The snes emulator is super laggy. Is this behaviour common?
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[2:00] <biberao> if it has composite out
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[2:00] <biberao> ive never seen it
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[2:02] <biberao> wow
[2:02] <biberao> it does
[2:02] <biberao> in the jack
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[2:12] <ScottO_> hello
[2:13] <ScottO_> i have a pi 2 v1.1 and im seeing that the GPIO defaults to input on boot. I'm attempting to follow a guide on changing the defaults with dtc and the filenames its providing dont exist.
[2:13] <ScottO_> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/pin-configuration.md
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[2:15] <ScottO_> i do see a bcm2709-rpi-2-b.dtb file located in /boot however
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[3:18] <mattwj2002> hey guys
[3:18] <mattwj2002> :D
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[3:24] <abnormal> syug yeh
[3:25] <mattwj2002> hey abnormal
[3:26] <abnormal> hello
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[3:26] <abnormal> what's new?
[3:26] <mattwj2002> abnormal: has anyone ever told you that you don't look normal.....you look abnormal :P
[3:26] <mattwj2002> not too much
[3:26] <mattwj2002> i thinking about building a cool project with gps and maybe gps with gsm
[3:26] <abnormal> oh yeah.. I am just plain abnormally abnormal...
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[3:27] <abnormal> cool
[3:27] <abnormal> go for it
[3:27] <mattwj2002> https://www.cooking-hacks.com/documentation/tutorials/geolocation-tracker-gprs-gps-geoposition-sim908-arduino-raspberry-pi
[3:27] <mattwj2002> :d
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[3:28] <abnormal> cool
[3:29] <abnormal> I have Arduino Uno on one of my pi's
[3:31] <mattwj2002> how is that working?
[3:31] <abnormal> I also have two Parallax Quick Start boards
[3:31] <abnormal> wonderful
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[4:00] <ScottO_> apparently the dts file supplied on this page causes problems...
[4:00] <ScottO_> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/pin-configuration.md
[4:00] <ScottO_> how can i remove a dtb file? is there a recovery mode where i can access /boot to mkake the changes?
[4:03] <ScottO_> it set the default states for my GPIO, but it seems to have broken soemthing else
[4:03] <ScottO_> because all lights on the board turn off
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[4:04] <ScottO_> 480 people in this channel and none active... :(
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[4:27] <be_> does anyone have a link to a working QEMU kernel image?
[4:27] <be_> for the original B
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[4:56] <warpie> well... anyone that is active, are busy with normal lifestyles... so they may be logged in but not at keyboards or those who are at keyboards may not know the answers and don't respond...
[4:58] <ScottO_> i need to delete a dtb file from boot
[4:58] <ScottO_> :(
[4:58] <ScottO_> and i cant figure out how to now
[4:58] <ScottO_> wish i could get command line or some kind of safe mode into raspian
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[4:59] <[Saint]> ScottO_: what's wrong with ssh?
[5:00] <[Saint]> 'sudo rm /boot/name_of_file_you_wanna_delete"
[5:00] <[Saint]> boom, done.
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[5:00] <ScottO_> from what?
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[5:00] <ScottO_> raspian wont boot
[5:00] <[Saint]> Alternatively, just take the card out of the pi and mount it under any other host with a card reader.
[5:01] <ScottO_> all lights on the board turn off once it tries to start raspian
[5:01] <[Saint]> /boot is FAT32, so, any host can mount it.
[5:01] <ScottO_> and i get nothing
[5:01] <ScottO_> weird, its not showing in windows
[5:01] <[Saint]> then see the secondary advice
[5:01] <[Saint]> Oh. I guess it's all sorts of screwed then.
[5:01] <ScottO_> i can see RECOVERY
[5:01] <[Saint]> Ah. Oh God. This is NOOBS...
[5:01] <ScottO_> and if i installed extfs in windows, i can see root and SETTINGS
[5:01] <ScottO_> yep
[5:01] <[Saint]> Yeah...that's...yeah.
[5:01] <ScottO_> crap
[5:01] <ScottO_> :(
[5:02] <[Saint]> I know precisely nothing about the layout of NOOBS sorry.
[5:02] <ScottO_> im starting to regret that
[5:02] <[Saint]> Other than it being more than slightly retarded.
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[5:02] <ScottO_> wondering why there is no commandline option in noobs
[5:03] <[Saint]> It's not going to help you if it can't boot even if there were.
[5:03] <ali1234> get a serial cable
[5:03] <ali1234> that always works, unless you disable it
[5:04] <[Saint]> ali1234: it still relies on it being able to boot.
[5:04] <[Saint]> which, it apparently isn't.
[5:04] <[Saint]> so...
[5:04] <ali1234> it doesn't actually
[5:04] <ScottO_> no serial port on 2 B
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[5:04] <ali1234> it will output kernel messages up to whatever point it crashes
[5:04] <ScottO_> i wish i could have noobs just rewrite the boot directory
[5:04] <[Saint]> ScottO_: serial over GPIO
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[5:05] <[Saint]> I think jumping to serial is honestly a fairly big potential waste of time though.
[5:05] <ali1234> the NOOBS menu is also running on a linux kernel iirc
[5:06] <ali1234> so you could access a shell there over serial, probably
[5:06] <[Saint]> IFF it's even getting that far.
[5:06] <ScottO_> the GPIO ports are all wonly becuase of the bad dtb file i added :P
[5:06] <ScottO_> i added the file from the link https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/pin-configuration.md
[5:06] <ScottO_> file at the bottom of that page
[5:07] <ScottO_> now all my GPIO turn ON and everything else on the board turns off
[5:07] <[Saint]> How deep into configuring the image were you? Are you gonna be heartbroken if you lose it?
[5:07] <ali1234> that's a dts file
[5:07] <ScottO_> i wasnt too far, im just upset to have to redo everything
[5:07] <ScottO_> yes i created the DTB from that
[5:07] <[Saint]> Wellp...may as well use the opportunity to kiss NOOBS goodbye.
[5:08] <ScottO_> yeah im thinking about it
[5:08] <ali1234> how did you manage to figure out how to build a device tree blob, but can't delete a file from an SD card?
[5:08] <ScottO_> you cant delete a file that you cant see
[5:08] <ScottO_> ive never dealt with NOOBS before
[5:09] <ScottO_> seems REALLY weird
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[5:09] <[Saint]> It boggles me that it's the recommended install option.
[5:09] <[Saint]> It's plainly convoluterd.
[5:09] <ali1234> https://github.com/raspberrypi/noobs/wiki/NOOBS-partitioning-explained
[5:09] <[Saint]> *convoluted
[5:09] <ScottO_> i have debian experience
[5:09] <ScottO_> normally id mount /boot and take care of what i need to
[5:09] <ScottO_> with NOOBS, that wont work it seems
[5:10] <[Saint]> And it's mostly to solve the issue of "writing an image to an sdcard is like...hard work, man..."
[5:10] <ali1234> read that wiki, it explains where all the files are
[5:10] <[Saint]> WHich, if it is "hard work", a pi is probably not gonna be your friend.
[5:10] <ScottO_> that wiki is a horrible read
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[5:10] <ali1234> i read it once, and afterwards i understood noobs
[5:10] <ScottO_> the explanations are not easy to read
[5:11] <ali1234> but then i forgot what it said
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[5:11] <ali1234> what exactly did you do?
[5:11] <ali1234> how did you get the dtb in there in the first place?
[5:11] <ScottO_> when raspian was booted
[5:11] <ali1234> does the noobs menu still work?
[5:11] <ScottO_> noobs still works
[5:12] <Willchill> Does anybody know where I could get a cheap domain name registration?
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[5:12] <ScottO_> but the noobs menu isnt very useful
[5:12] <ali1234> okay so the boot files you are looking for are in a partition in the extended partition
[5:12] <ScottO_> which im guessing wont be viewable in extfs on windows, it seems i can only access primary partitions
[5:13] <ScottO_> im tempted to reboot and load up knoppix livecd
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[5:13] <ali1234> yes, or just use virtualbox usb passthrough
[5:13] <ScottO_> sometimes i regret going back to windows
[5:13] <ScottO_> hrmm.. never tried that one
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[5:14] <ScottO_> but why wont NOOBS menu let me get into command line so i can do what i need?
[5:14] <ScottO_> seems silly
[5:14] <ali1234> clue is in the name...
[5:14] <[Saint]> I'd just nuke it and install an image with a sane partition layout that you can recover directly from any host if it falls over.
[5:14] <[Saint]> Just sayin'.
[5:14] <ali1234> but seriously though, it will, on serial
[5:15] <ScottO_> its getting too late for me
[5:15] <ScottO_> i was trying to find 'clue' in the name 'NOOBS'
[5:15] <ScottO_> :(
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[5:16] <[Saint]> In my mind NOOBS was built to address a silly meta problem that didn't exist in the first place.
[5:16] <ScottO_> this all started with my sainsmart LEDs being half lit before noobs or raspian load
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[5:16] <warpie> ScottO_: go to www.raspberrypi.org and download the raspbian OS only.
[5:16] <ScottO_> and me thinking that it would turn on my relays
[5:17] <[Saint]> I'm sure someone out there feels good about themselves and feels like they had a meaningful life because of it though.
[5:17] <[Saint]> *nix is filled with people fixing problems that don't exist
[5:17] <[Saint]> ...and creating more that do.
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[5:18] <ScottO_> raspian OS gets flashed to the SD card like any embedded system right?
[5:18] <ScottO_> flash then boot and everythings grand
[5:18] <warpie> yes
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[5:19] <[Saint]> Yup. It's just am .img file with two partitions.
[5:19] <[Saint]> *an
[5:19] <ScottO_> i feel silly for dealing with NOOBS then
[5:19] <warpie> very straight forward
[5:19] <ScottO_> well this is my first time with raspberry pi
[5:19] <warpie> congrats
[5:19] <ScottO_> glad i ahvent gotten too far
[5:19] <[Saint]> NOOBS seems to exist entirely because "imaging an sdcard and creating backups is like...hard work"
[5:19] <[Saint]> It's silly.
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[5:19] <[Saint]> If it is hard work, you got problems.
[5:20] <ScottO_> i gutted a APC UPS and im putting this in there
[5:20] <ScottO_> gonna have a smart power strip
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[5:20] <warpie> I learned the hard way, imaged the SD cards in windows.
[5:20] <ScottO_> whys that a problem?
[5:20] <ScottO_> ive done that plenty
[5:20] <warpie> no, it's easy
[5:20] <[Saint]> I have no idea.
[5:20] <[Saint]> See above.
[5:21] <[Saint]> Fixing meta-problems that never existed.
[5:21] <warpie> NOOBS is for ppl who don't want to learn the hard way.
[5:21] <ScottO_> ok ill chalk this up to lesson learned
[5:21] <[Saint]> I did a GIGANTIC eye roll when NOOBS was announced.
[5:21] <ScottO_> haha
[5:21] <ali1234> [Saint]: you'd hate wubi
[5:22] <warpie> what's that?
[5:22] <[Saint]> warpie: which I find silly, as they'll damn well learn the hard way as soon as it boots an they want to interact with it an any meaningful non-GUI fashion.
[5:22] <ScottO_> so why are my sainsmart LEDS being lit when the raspberry pi is just turned on?
[5:22] <ScottO_> *half lit
[5:22] <ali1234> a method of installing linux (specifically ubuntu) into a loopback file on a windows system
[5:22] <[Saint]> warpie: wubi is a deprecated Windows/Ubuntu dual-boot mess.
[5:22] <ScottO_> why is GPIO sending voltage across my outputs?
[5:22] <[Saint]> Canonical even hates it themselves.
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[5:22] <warpie> I see.. ok
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[5:23] <ali1234> it's massively over-complicated, fragile, and suffers from a complete lack of support due to the fact that it was designed for noobs so only noobs used it
[5:23] <[Saint]> It's been deprecated for years.
[5:23] <[Saint]> years and years and years.
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[5:23] <ali1234> yeah i know
[5:23] <ali1234> it was still a terrible idea
[5:24] <warpie> lol
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[5:30] <ScottO_> what do you guys use to write the img in windows?
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[5:35] <warpie> win32imgr
[5:35] <warpie> free download
[5:35] <[Saint]> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/installation/installing-images/windows.md
[5:35] <[Saint]> short answer is...I don't.
[5:35] <[Saint]> but, that's what others use.
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[5:38] <warpie> sweet... this antique pi sure has some umph and works well
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[5:42] <biberao> damn the shipping for the pi is awful
[5:42] <[Saint]> It's a ~$30 educational board, you could spend $30 in shipping and STILL get a bairgain.
[5:42] <[Saint]> Jeez.
[5:42] <[Saint]> People constantly amaze me.
[5:43] <warpie> where is this at?
[5:44] <warpie> I get stuff from Amazon and is fairly decent shipping
[5:44] <[Saint]> RS shipped to me from the UK for like $8 in 3 days.
[5:44] <[Saint]> ...to New Zealand.
[5:44] <[Saint]> I'm not complaining.
[5:45] <warpie> that's cheap
[5:45] <warpie> I pay close to $15 for shipping
[5:45] <TeknoJuce> anyone know how to reload the framebuffer after you mess it up with some pygame code
[5:45] <TeknoJuce> basically just a black screen
[5:45] <TeknoJuce> so far the only way I know how is to reboot which is annoying
[5:46] <biberao> [Saint]:
[5:46] <biberao> i pay a lot more
[5:46] <TeknoJuce> tried swapping terminals alt ctrl f1, f2 etc doesnt work
[5:46] <warpie> oh?
[5:46] <[Saint]> That's nice biberao.
[5:46] <TeknoJuce> ctrl D doesnt work
[5:46] <biberao> so if you can pay 60bucks
[5:46] <biberao> hurray for you..
[5:46] <TeknoJuce> I can ssh in and kill the TTY but its still a black screen
[5:46] <biberao> lets sing together
[5:46] <biberao> lalalala
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[5:47] <TeknoJuce> would I have to reload the hdmi driver or something
[5:47] <[Saint]> It's probably your locale adding duties taxation that neither the vendor or the RPF have any control over.
[5:47] <[Saint]> Some locales add an insane amount of duties taxes.
[5:48] <biberao> see?
[5:49] <biberao> you can be smart too
[5:49] <[Saint]> I'm not sure why it's the RPF's or raspi's problem, though.
[5:49] <biberao> :P
[5:49] <[Saint]> It's your broken locale.
[5:49] <[Saint]> Can't fix that.
[5:49] <biberao> i complained
[5:49] <biberao> agains raspi guys?
[5:49] <biberao> i just complained about the shipping price..
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[5:50] <[Saint]> Sorry. It made it seem to me as though you thought it was a universal truth. Shipping to locales that don't suck is cheap and fast.
[5:51] <[Saint]> No one can really control how much absurd taxes a given locale wants to apply.
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[5:51] <biberao> i know different countries
[5:51] <biberao> atleast outside EU
[5:51] <biberao> dont have much higher taxes
[5:51] <biberao> for shipping
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[5:52] <[Saint]> I don't think I pay duties on electonic imports under $200 unless it's a parralel import, but even then it's only a few bucks and customs has to actually notice it happening.
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[5:53] <[Saint]> and/or dispute the value.
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[6:38] <ScottO_> ok now i have a proper install of raspbian
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[6:41] <abnormal> congrats
[6:41] <abnormal> does it boot now?
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[6:50] <ScottO_> yep
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[6:50] <abnormal> well congrats
[6:50] <ScottO_> so why does my relay board LEDs get lit halfway before boot?
[6:51] <ScottO_> thats what started my whole prolbem
[6:51] <ScottO_> was trying to change default states
[6:51] <ScottO_> because i was cocnerned that they were getting voltage and were triggering the relays
[6:51] <ScottO_> they probably arent
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[6:51] <abnormal> I'd disconnect the board before booting the pi, after booted up then connect the board
[6:52] <ScottO_> every time?
[6:52] <ScottO_> not all the LEDs are 50% lit
[6:52] <ScottO_> the rest are not lit
[6:52] <abnormal> maybe, I do not know that kind of issue.. the one to ask is niston
[6:52] <ScottO_> running my python script where i setup the GPIO, clears those 50% lit LEDs
[6:53] <ScottO_> it could be sending a 3v signal for inputs
[6:53] <abnormal> could be, I am not experience it that field..
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[6:54] <abnormal> *in
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[7:05] <biberao> [Saint]:
[7:05] <biberao> here
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[7:06] <biberao> they charge atleast the double of the product
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[7:07] <ScottO_> now i need to find some PWM music code
[7:07] <[Saint]> Like I said before if your locale wants to add insane import taxation there's literally nothing anyone can do about it.
[7:07] <ScottO_> id like to play some tones with pwm for auditory indicator
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[7:24] <Peppi> hello
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[7:25] <abnormal> olleh
[7:26] <Peppi> so trying to install transmission on the PI
[7:26] <Peppi> following this:
[7:26] <Peppi> http://www.techjawab.com/2014/08/how-to-install-transmission-on.html
[7:26] <Peppi> the issue is setting up the RPS passowrd
[7:26] <Peppi> how do you do that?
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[7:46] <ScottO_> weird
[7:47] <ScottO_> shutdown of raspian does not disable GPIO, it leaves it in the state it was
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[7:51] <ppq> that's because the pi can't really turn off itself
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[8:04] <[Saint]> You can easily schedule a task that clears GPIO state on shutdown/reboot
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[8:07] <TeknoJuce> has anyone seen anyone modify a raspi B into a 40pin header B+
[8:09] <abnormal> lol
[8:09] <ShorTie> not really possible
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[8:11] <[Saint]> It's not just not really possible.
[8:11] <[Saint]> It's not even remotely possible. ;)
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[8:13] <Berg> so we just order 4 light sensetive modules 4 analog to didgital models and 4 altrusonic censors
[8:13] <Berg> <---crazzy
[8:13] <ppq> altruistic censors? :p
[8:13] <Peppi> hey will ps -e -f show what user is runnign a process?
[8:13] <Berg> the ultra sonic work of time laps right they are not analog
[8:14] <ppq> Peppi, yes
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[8:14] <Peppi> hmmm
[8:14] <ppq> -f will do that
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[8:14] <[Saint]> Electronic censorship?
[8:14] <[Saint]> huehuehue
[8:14] <Berg> yeah
[8:15] <Peppi> weird... I installed transmission... what user should it be?
[8:15] <Berg> its gona test you
[8:15] <ppq> usually the one you ran it as, Peppi
[8:15] <Berg> im gona try and make a water tank level machine
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[8:15] <[Saint]> Peppi: that depends on how you installed it.
[8:15] <Berg> like time wasrp without time
[8:15] <[Saint]> If you used root, root, if you used sudo - the user you invoked sudo as...etc.
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[8:16] <[Saint]> hint: don't use root.
[8:16] <Peppi> I did: apt-get install transmission-daemon
[8:16] <[Saint]> pretty much never use root.
[8:16] <Berg> never
[8:16] <[Saint]> there's practically never a good reason to EVER be the root users.
[8:16] <Berg> ever
[8:16] <Peppi> [Saint]: ooops I used root
[8:16] <Berg> you c ant install unles your root or use sudo
[8:17] <[Saint]> Just remove it, 'apt-get remove --purge transmission'
[8:17] <Berg> as root
[8:17] <[Saint]> then set up an appropriate user account.
[8:17] <Peppi> [Saint]: why not install it as root?
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[8:17] <[Saint]> because it'll absord the permissions of the user that installed it.
[8:18] <Peppi> [Saint]: so?
[8:18] <[Saint]> *absorb
[8:18] <[Saint]> EVerything should be installed to a user with the lowest amount of permissions required.
[8:19] <Peppi> [Saint]: sure... but is there anything wrong with installing it as root?
[8:19] <Berg> i can never make the red brick fit in tetras
[8:21] <[Saint]> I just do "apt-get install sudo && useradd username && adduser username sudo" for properly managing user creation with appropriate permissions personally.
[8:21] <[Saint]> quick and easy.
[8:22] <[Saint]> (where username == the username you desire for the given account)
[8:22] <[Saint]> It'll prompt for realname, etc.
[8:23] <Berg> is there usermod?
[8:23] <[Saint]> Generally speaking I don't like installing anything as root unless I absolutely have to (initial setup) because there's no telling if a given package is going to do something highly stupid.
[8:23] <[Saint]> ANd if it has permission to walk the entire filesystem...well..yeah.
[8:24] <[Saint]> Also from a security aspect, if the system is compromised, as root, you're basically handing over the keys to the kingdom.
[8:24] <[Saint]> Not A Good Thing (TM).
[8:25] <[Saint]> I create a new user with sudo access and then lock the root account immediately.
[8:26] <[Saint]> 'sudo passwd -l root'
[8:26] <[Saint]> (-l flag is lock)
[8:26] <[Saint]> How much this matters to you is subjective, I personally think it's never wise to be lax about system security and permissions.
[8:27] <[Saint]> always use the least amount of permissions required.
[8:28] <[Saint]> I really should write up some documentation for new users on system hardening.
[8:28] <Berg> adding users?
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[8:29] <[Saint]> I did an ssh hardening and optimization writeup a while back. I should dig that back up and expand on it.
[8:29] <Berg> the command line in root methods would be handy
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[8:30] <[Saint]> Berg: not necessarily for adding new users, though I would cover that - more of a why to do or not do particular things and the repercussions of not doing or doing said things.
[8:30] <[Saint]> ssh hardening is something I'm particularly passionate about.
[8:30] <[Saint]> My ssh is like a goddamn fortress.
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[8:31] <Berg> well i was having issues adding a user and i had to instal the users groups program to achive what i needed cause i kept mesing up the command line
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[8:31] <[Saint]> useradd can do group management
[8:31] <Berg> i find my pi is safe cause its on the lan only
[8:32] <[Saint]> (note, not adduser, useradd)
[8:32] <Berg> see
[8:32] * Xark upgraded his SSH password from "123456" to extra strong "0123456789abcdef". :)
[8:32] <Berg> good thinking
[8:33] <[Saint]> That's a classic fallacy I like to address. Never assume that your LAN is a non-hostile environment.
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[8:34] <[Saint]> If someone gets into one machine, you don't want to hand them _all_ the rest.
[8:34] <TeknoJuce> should all usb displaylink adapters work if you recompile the raspbian kernel to support it?
[8:34] <TeknoJuce> is it basically like a universal standard
[8:34] <[Saint]> It /should/ be.
[8:38] <Peppi> [Saint]: ok I uninstalled transmission and installed it on another user
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[8:39] <Peppi> [Saint]: when I do a ps -e -f I see the transmission-daemon running as user 103 does that make any sence?
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[9:05] <oquidave> hello, I want to connect to a specific wireless ssid from the commandline. I've already setup two wireless networks using wpa_supplicant via /etc/wpa_supplicant. I've read around and I can see people suggesting I use wpa_supplicant -B -iwlan0 -c/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dwext. But this doesn't enable me to select the wireless network I wish to connect to
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[9:41] <Berg> Peppi: is the user you made called 103?
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[9:42] <pbase> what is the general octane score for pi2 ?
[9:42] <[Saint]> Berg: no - it'll be the PID
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[9:43] <Berg> yeah i did that command and go the user name then function
[9:43] <Peppi> Berg: no it's not
[9:43] <Berg> ps -e -f
[9:43] <Peppi> hmmm?
[9:43] <[Saint]> It's just the process ID - nothing to see here.
[9:43] <[Saint]> Carry on.
[9:43] <Berg> berg 2512 2339 0 09:58 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus
[9:43] <Berg> berg 2515 1 0 09:58 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with
[9:43] <Berg> thats part of list
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[9:44] <Berg> \hmm
[9:44] <Peppi> [Saint]: no it's not the PID it's the UID
[9:44] <Berg> \what could p[ossibley go wrong
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[9:46] <Peppi> Berg: do you use transmission?
[9:46] <Berg> i dont know
[9:46] <Peppi> you don't know?... ok
[9:47] <Berg> noi i dont
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[9:49] <Peppi> [Saint]: so I'm trying to get transmission to work. I mounted a share using cifs.
[9:50] <Peppi> [Saint]: but am getting file permission errors when I try to download
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[9:58] <Peppi> weird it looks like it does make a user call 103.... weird
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[10:56] <NedScott> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2340692/GBDSiXL/Pi_2_hair_cut.jpg
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[11:03] <[Saint]> Holy carp!
[11:06] <[Saint]> http://i.imgur.com/FGbrLZB.jpg
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[11:07] <[Saint]> NedScott: did you just put it on a belt sander? 0_o
[11:07] <NedScott> nah, I used a dremel
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[11:08] <NedScott> the bottom two ports still work, and I can solder to the "pins" left over from the top two ports
[11:08] <NedScott> and for this project (gameboy-type portable thing) I don't need ethernet
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[11:09] <NedScott> I guess I could have desoldered things and tried to make it look nice, but meh
[11:10] <NedScott> me have hammer. me smash.
[11:10] <[Saint]> you done did engineeringed it goodly.
[11:11] * [Saint] nods
[11:11] <[Saint]> If it works, I can't fault the approach. Well done.
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[11:11] * NedScott puts the pi in his mouth and nods
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[11:27] <t3chguy> that Pi is massacred
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[11:28] <ShorTie> kinda like it was burnt and the top scraped off .. :/~
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[11:30] <t3chguy> You could always give it ethernet since the pins are still visible lol
[11:31] <t3chguy> I would never be able to do something like that to a piece of hardware
[11:31] <t3chguy> had a hard enough time making myself dremel out bits of the Official Foundation Case yesterday xD
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[11:43] <holgersson> Hey guys (girls included ;)!
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[11:50] <holgersson> I'm running into trouble upgrading my kernel on a RPi B+. I build my kernel myself from github sources and run currently still 3.18.14. https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux shows 4.1.y as current branch and clones that one to me. Anyway, if I take my 3.18.14-config and build the new kernel with it, run imagetool-uncompressed and then boot with the new kernel, I don't even get to the point mounting the main rootfs. I guess it's a kernel panic, but
[11:50] <holgersson> currently I have no way of really testing this out (serial cable is still on the way and I don't own a HDMI cable).
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[11:51] <holgersson> So my question is: Does someone here run 4.1.y from github at an RPi "1" and might help in any way? :)
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[12:10] <holgersson> (I'm n/a for a while but back in some hours.)
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[13:11] <Lina> o/
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[13:30] <t3chguy> o/
[13:30] [t3chguy VERSION]
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[13:57] <faLUCE> hello, if I transfer files (with scp) from an ethernet host to ethernet raspberry pi (1 model B+) I have a speed of about 3,4MB/S. It seems too slow, isn'it ?
[13:57] <faLUCE> how can I improve?
[13:57] <faLUCE> I'm using raspbian jessie
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[14:01] <nid0> is the file being stored to SD or a usb disk?
[14:02] <Lina> class 4 SD cards are pretty slow
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[14:08] <faLUCE> nid0: sd
[14:09] <faLUCE> Lina: so, it is a normal speed for class 4 sd ?
[14:09] <nid0> is the card any good? As Lina mentioned, cheap/slow cards can be very slow
[14:09] <nid0> if you're using a class 4 card, the speed you're seeing is about right
[14:09] <faLUCE> maybe it is 4 card
[14:10] <nid0> for a Pi you really want to be using class 6 at the barest minimum, but ideally you should be using a good quality fast card which will usually be rated to class 10
[14:10] <Lina> yeah it's normal
[14:10] <Lina> I use a kingston class 10 / 16GB works well for my freebsd server under RPI2
[14:10] <nid0> (thats not to say "just buy a class 10" because a cheapo class 10 is still gonna be slow, you need a good quality card and those just usually end up being class10)
[14:11] <faLUCE> ok, another question is: with wifi I obtain about 1,5MB. what can I check for better performances?
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[14:12] <faLUCE> maybe it is acting as "g" and not as "n"
[14:12] <faLUCE> how can I check?ù
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[15:02] <xreal> I've bought a 2,5" SATA case ($7) for my 10-year-old Fujitsu HDD (5 V @0.5 A) one month ago. RPi v1 is running like a charm. No instability, no extreme heating... I'm happy!
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[15:45] <holgersson> re
[15:47] <holgersson> faLUCE: About your ethernet speed: I think this is normal and more determined by the Mbit-Ethernet plus a quite slow CPU, which is another bottleneck through the encryption of you ssh stream. When you try out plain network testing tools like iperf you should get full speed.
[15:48] <holgersson> faLUCE: I have same values with my RPi ("1") B+ and x86-Host aswell as scp to or from other raspis at my parents home.
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[15:54] <holgersson> Raspi boots now. It seems I just broke my config.
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[16:23] <emilio189> hi to all
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[16:32] <SyncYourDogmas> Hey
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[17:28] <turtlehat> does anyone know about using i2s/dma with c++ on the pi and could point me to some relevant reading .. ive given it some googling, but its a little opaque to me
[17:29] <turtlehat> im using raspbian if that makes a difference
[17:29] <turtlehat> on an rpi2
[17:30] <turtlehat> perhaps if someone could just explain it in a nutshell that would help me understand what i need to do :)
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[17:33] <shafire> hi
[17:34] <shafire> where do I find rtc on the rpi?
[17:35] <turtlehat> i dont think it has an rtc
[17:35] <shafire> I see
[17:35] <xenkey> it doesn't have an RTC
[17:35] <xenkey> Mine thinks it's 1970 when it starts up
[17:35] <xenkey> Rather funny actually
[17:35] <shafire> do you run ntpd as fast as possible?
[17:35] <xenkey> Huh
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[17:36] <xenkey> "as fast as possible"
[17:36] <xenkey> Are we talking speed or precision?
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[17:36] <turtlehat> early in the boot sequence i imagine
[17:36] <shafire> yes
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[17:37] <xenkey> right
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[17:38] <ShorTie> 1970 is when time stated
[17:38] <ShorTie> 1970 is when time started
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[17:38] <turtlehat> just run it somewhere between 1970 and 2015 then
[17:38] <turtlehat> : p
[17:38] <SyncYourDogmas> Unix epoch, this is true
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[17:39] <xenkey> it can be 1970 if I want it to be 1970
[17:39] <turtlehat> <disco>
[17:39] <shafire> i32 :D
[17:39] <shafire> until 2031 or so?
[17:39] <skyroveRR> shafire: you an either rely on ntpd or make your own.
[17:40] <ShorTie> back with the Brady Bunch and Partridge Family
[17:40] <skyroveRR> I mean, your own RTC.
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[17:40] <turtlehat> attaching an rtc isnt much complicated
[17:41] <skyroveRR> ^
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[18:14] <ThinkingofPython> So, I wonder where the education fund went lol
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[18:27] <emilio189> hi all
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[18:28] <emilio189> if I have a bash script inside a folder i.e. ~/scripts/script.sh
[18:28] <ShorTie> Yesss....
[18:29] <emilio189> is it correct to start it like this: ~/scripts/./script.sh
[18:30] <ShorTie> depends on where you are, but should work i guess
[18:30] <emilio189> ok
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[18:30] <cconstantine> Hey everyone. I'm trying to make a video to playback on my raspbery pi 2 and all I'm getting is green with weird artifacts around the mouse. The video plays back fine on my desktop. Is there a resource for greating videos that play on the rasbperry pi or a place I can find logs of what went wrong (I've searched `dmesg` and syslog)
[18:30] <emilio189> ShorTie: thank you
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[18:31] <ShorTie> No Problem
[18:31] <emilio189> cconstantine: what is the player?
[18:31] <cconstantine> I'm using ffmpeg and x264
[18:31] <cconstantine> oxmplayer
[18:31] <cconstantine> but it's behaving exactly the same in my openframeworks program
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[18:32] <emilio189> ShorTie: i started it like this, then i check its execution with: ps aux | grep script.sh and i found the script two times
[18:33] <emilio189> cconstantine: I think I can't help you
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[18:33] <cconstantine> yay!
[18:33] <cconstantine> oh wait.. can't... boooo
[18:34] <emilio189> cconstantine: ahahah yes I'm new to all these things
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[18:34] <emilio189> cconstantine: you can playback all other kinds of videos, right?
[18:35] <cconstantine> I have a youtube video I've downloaded that I can playback
[18:35] <cconstantine> I've even modified it with ffmpeg (to strip audio and resize it), and those play alright
[18:35] <emilio189> cconstantine: ok so I think the player is working good and the hardware too
[18:36] <cconstantine> yeah, and the video is ok because it'll play on my desktop. it's something about the video that the rpi2's hardware doesn't like
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[18:36] <emilio189> cconstantine: have you tried the -r flag?
[18:37] <cconstantine> -r ?
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[18:38] <cconstantine> oh, yes. I originally tried 60 fps, then let ffmpeg do the default 25
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[18:40] <John[Lisbeth]> I can't think of what project I want to do.
[18:40] <nownot> im looking to have my raspberry pi control audio on my ipad using avrcp. looking I see that bluez has this in their latest build, but not really finding much on installing bluez or how to get my pi up and running with avrcp. any suggestions?
[18:41] <John[Lisbeth]> This is not completely related but have you jailbroken your ipad?
[18:41] <nownot> John[Lisbeth]: i have not, I can but haven't had a reason to.
[18:42] <emilio189> cconstantine: i'm out of ideas .. try changing something in ffmpeg
[18:42] <John[Lisbeth]> Well jailbreaking it gives you access to tools that are not normally present in the device. On android you can get shell tools this way, and I think you porbably can on ipad, too.
[18:42] <cconstantine> I've done that a bunch... without an error message it's really hard to know what knob to twittle
[18:43] <nownot> to complete my thought, my goal is to get this working, then tie it in to my stearing wheel controls. tie the volume buttons and skip track buttons to io pins on the pi and control my audio this way
[18:43] <emilio189> cconstantine: there is not a verbose mode on omxplayer?
[18:44] <John[Lisbeth]> So you are going to have a dedicated pi for your car, then?
[18:44] <nownot> yeah. i already have an ipad installed in the dash, but looking for ways to control the audio playback via steering wheel controls. thought a pi would fit the bill if I could get it working
[18:45] <cconstantine> doesn't appear to be
[18:45] <cconstantine> and I think the player is under the impression that everything is going well
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[18:45] <John[Lisbeth]> That's what I am saying is that if you hack into your ipad, you can do much better than the GPIO pins. You could just use USB to go diretly into the ipad.
[18:45] <emilio189> cconstantine: I think it too :D
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[18:46] <nownot> John[Lisbeth]: the usb is going to be tied up for digital output to a dsp
[18:46] <John[Lisbeth]> DSP?
[18:46] <nownot> audison bit ten, digital signal processor.
[18:47] <John[Lisbeth]> Is that like an audio device for the ipad. I just don't know what to picture.
[18:48] <cconstantine> https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/issues/340 !!! this looks like it
[18:48] <emilio189> cconstantine: have you tried to run omxplayer as root?
[18:48] <nownot> ipad in dash, cable from ipad -> pure i20 with optical out -> dsp -> amps - > speakers
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[18:49] <nownot> basically im looking to make this, https://navtv.com/products/NTV-KIT455/steerblue.html, that cost 300 but think I can make it cheaper with the pi
[18:49] <emilio189> cconstantine: so you can solve
[18:50] <emilio189> cconstantine: using yuv420p?
[18:50] <John[Lisbeth]> What if you send the audio over wifi to the pi, and then that frees up data in the cable.
[18:50] <cconstantine> :/ maybe... I don't know how to tell ffmpeg to do that
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[18:51] <John[Lisbeth]> At those distances a wifi signal should be very strong, with everything jammed in the dash.
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[18:51] <nownot> do to the quality, im pretty set in stone on the setup.
[18:52] <John[Lisbeth]> Oh well. I'm just the kind of guy who likes to play in shells.
[18:52] <John[Lisbeth]> I want to see if I can get powershell working on this.
[18:52] <cconstantine> I might have it
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[18:59] <emilio189> cconstantine: great
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[18:59] <John[Lisbeth]> What has been your guys' experience with using arch on the pi?
[19:00] <cconstantine> reencoding to test
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[19:00] <emilio189> John[Lisbeth]: never tried arch linux
[19:01] <emilio189> John[Lisbeth]: is it different from debian based distro?
[19:01] <emilio189> John[Lisbeth]: and why to prefer it?
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[19:01] <John[Lisbeth]> Yeah. For one thing, by default, arch only comes with a minimal shell.
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[19:01] <ShorTie> arch is ok/good, but raspbian has all the special sauce for the pi
[19:02] <John[Lisbeth]> I was also thinking about going the gentoo route.
[19:02] <emilio189> ShorTie: I was thinking it too
[19:02] <ShorTie> pi to slow for Gentoo if you value your time at all, imho
[19:03] <emilio189> ShorTie: have you read about my second question?
[19:03] <cconstantine> but but but... once gentoo has compiled (3k years later) it'll be 1% faster because native compile!!!!
[19:04] <John[Lisbeth]> That sounds fun to me, though. Plus I'd learn the linux filesystem.
[19:04] <ShorTie> ??
[19:05] <cconstantine> but srsly. gentoo is great at learning how the system actually works. it will take a *lot* of time though
[19:05] * holgersson had several segfaults with arch at the RPi (B+ model).
[19:05] <emilio189> ShorTie: i started the bash script with:./script.sh then checking its execution with: ps aux | grep script.sh
[19:05] <holgersson> My RPi runs 24/7 and compiles every week one or two days for the normal backups^^
[19:05] <emilio189> ShorTie: it appears two times there
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[19:07] <ShorTie> ya, 1 is the search process searching for it and the other is the actual script runnin i would guess
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[19:07] <John[Lisbeth]> Isn't it really dangerous to compile super often though, on account of flash storage?
[19:08] <emilio189> i see two times: /bin/bash ...... script.sh
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[19:08] <emilio189> I don't know why
[19:09] <emilio189> But because i'm feading sensors values i don't want two istances running
[19:09] <emilio189> *reading
[19:09] <cconstantine> emilio189, it worked!
[19:10] <emilio189> cconstantine: nice done:)
[19:10] <cconstantine> thanks for the help :)
[19:10] <emilio189> cconstantine: yea without me you would never solve
[19:10] <emilio189> ahahahah
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[19:11] <emilio189> cconstantine: sorry for the bad english too
[19:11] <cconstantine> oh, I probably won't have solved it. your english is fine :)
[19:12] <emilio189> cconstantine: nice done so, the important is to solve
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[19:13] <emilio189> i'm running irc client on my ipad, so I could loose the connection very easy
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[19:20] <emilio189> bye all
[19:20] <emilio189> I need to go
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[19:45] <trewq> I need to add about 8 IO pins to the rpi. Does anyone have any recommendations on the I/O expander board that they have personally used?
[19:45] <Davespice> hey folks
[19:45] <Davespice> Astro Pi featured on the Orbital Mechanics podcast: http://www.theorbitalmechanics.com/show-notes/astro-pi
[19:46] <Davespice> out bit is from around 40 minutes onwards
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[19:48] <ctrlshftn> .latency
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[21:07] <fluffet> is Git in any way tied to a hardcoded location or can I just move the folders as I wish, as long as I bring the .git?
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[21:57] <t3chguy> fluffet: the .git contains all the meta
[21:57] <t3chguy> as long as you move the entire repo, you'll be fine
[21:57] <t3chguy> well
[21:57] <t3chguy> unless its a submodule
[21:57] <t3chguy> or something relies on it
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[22:22] <t3chguy> Gadgetoid: you around?
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[22:30] <ali1234> what microcontroller dev boards have a USB-A connector?
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[22:30] <ali1234> here is an example: http://www.ck3.co.uk/images/D/SKU1.jpg
[22:30] <[Saint]> ali1234: possibly hard to find now new- but, mini2440.
[22:31] <[Saint]> Actually, a lot of the FriendlyARM boards do.
[22:31] <[Saint]> (mini2440 is a bit of a beast for it's age)
[22:31] <ali1234> plug not socket :)
[22:31] <ali1234> see example image ^
[22:31] <t3chguy> ali1234: http://shop.pimoroni.com/products/espruino-pico
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[22:32] <ali1234> t3chguy: yes, i was just looking at that. know any more?
[22:32] <t3chguy> nope
[22:32] <t3chguy> I'm new to this whole scene
[22:32] <ali1234> £22 is kinda... pricey
[22:32] <t3chguy> ali1234: I bought an Arduino Due the other day
[22:32] <t3chguy> like double that :P
[22:32] <ali1234> the minimus (pictured above) was like £5
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[22:32] <ali1234> it;s also exactly the same chip as the modern arduinos
[22:33] <t3chguy> I doubt its the same chip as the Due :P
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[22:33] <ali1234> no, it's not
[22:33] <t3chguy> the Due's Atmel chip is HUGE
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[22:33] <t3chguy> almost the size of a modern CPU lol
[22:34] <ali1234> using an ARM core as a microcontroller is kind of silly anyway
[22:34] <t3chguy> gotta say
[22:34] <t3chguy> it works hella well
[22:34] <ali1234> how so?
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[22:35] <t3chguy> fast and powerful
[22:35] <t3chguy> lots of IO
[22:35] <ali1234> yeah but what is it good for?
[22:35] <t3chguy> Currently?
[22:35] <Xark> ali1234: For low cost, perhaps http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/181646002872
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[22:35] <t3chguy> ali1234: to make pretty patterns on a Neopixel ring
[22:36] <t3chguy> wow that's truly tiny
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[22:36] <ali1234> you could do that with the cheapest slowest 8 bit AVR...
[22:36] <t3chguy> I know
[22:36] <t3chguy> I just mean what I'm using it for ATM
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[22:37] <ali1234> hmm... digispark clones from china?
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[22:37] <ali1234> heh, the digispark is ATTINY85
[22:37] <[Saint]> ali1234: aha - hmmm...no idea man.
[22:37] <sockofleas> how can i get a piece of light windows software to run on the RPI B+?
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[22:38] <[Saint]> light windows software?
[22:38] <[Saint]> oxymoron much?
[22:38] <[Saint]> lol
[22:38] <sockofleas> lol
[22:38] <sockofleas> seriously, there isn't a single image in it
[22:38] <ali1234> you compile wine with support for ARM host and then run it
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[22:39] <sockofleas> this will work on the B+
[22:39] <sockofleas> ?
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[22:39] <ali1234> if you are patient enough
[22:39] <ali1234> i don't see why not
[22:39] <sockofleas> like how patient lol
[22:39] <t3chguy> or you just run Windows IoT edition on your Pi
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[22:39] <ali1234> http://wiki.winehq.org/ARM
[22:40] <ali1234> https://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=17701
[22:40] <[Saint]> Wine is probably gonna send a B+ spiralling down into a swapping IO mess of doom and sorrow though.
[22:40] <[Saint]> Just sayin'.
[22:40] <t3chguy> [Saint]: Most things tend to
[22:40] <ali1234> unlikely
[22:40] <SyncYourDogmas> What's the software?
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[22:40] <ali1234> if the program really is "light" we're talking a few kb of executable code and nothing else
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[22:41] <sockofleas> t3chguy: what is windows IO?
[22:41] <[Saint]> Sure, but Wine is very very very non-light.
[22:41] <[Saint]> And has some pretty crazy IO at times.
[22:41] <ali1234> also no
[22:41] <H__> C64-style :)
[22:41] <t3chguy> sockofleas: Windows IoT is the Free Windows Edition for Pi
[22:41] <ali1234> remember "wine is not an emulator"
[22:41] <ali1234> all it does is catch DLL calls and redirect them
[22:41] <sockofleas> t3chguy: isn't that only for the 2?
[22:42] <sockofleas> SyncYourDogmas: https://www.dropbox.com/s/je6aci9j0r52q3r/TH1000.zip?dl=0
[22:42] <t3chguy> sockofleas: I'd assume so
[22:42] <[Saint]> If you think Wine is light, you and I have very different definition of what 'light' entails my boy.
[22:42] <ali1234> running the whole mess through qemu might be a problem though
[22:42] <sockofleas> t3chguy: i have the b+
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[22:43] <t3chguy> Fair enough
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[22:50] <SyncYourDogmas> sockofleas: there's no readmes in that and I don't have windows
[22:50] <SyncYourDogmas> What does it do,?
[22:52] <sockofleas> its a thermocouple reader
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[22:52] <sockofleas> so is there nothing i can do?
[22:52] <sockofleas> i have to run wine?
[22:53] <ali1234> yes
[22:53] <t3chguy> well, or write it in a *nix-friendly lang
[22:53] <ali1234> 32MB?
[22:53] <ali1234> lol
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[22:55] <sockofleas> why do u say lol?
[22:55] <ali1234> because that is huge
[22:56] <sockofleas> how is that huge?
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[22:58] <ali1234> "light" windows executables run to a few hundred kb
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[23:07] <ali1234> here's wine's resource usage when running a real "light" WIN32 app: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12043231/
[23:08] <ali1234> under 10MB virtual and under 50kb physical memory used
[23:08] <ali1234> if wine is using too much memory, blame the software you're running in it
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[23:49] <faLUCE> hello, is there a way to assign a percentage of usb total bandwidth for the wifi usb interface?
[23:50] <CoJaBo> ..why?
[23:50] <xenkey> ^
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[23:53] <ShadowJK> faLUCE, no.
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[23:54] <faLUCE> ShadowJK: the problem is that my usb HD sucks too much bandwidth... how can I correct that, so that also the wifi dongle has enough bandwidth?
[23:54] <ShadowJK> no idea :D
[23:54] <ShadowJK> (I'm so helpful)
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[23:56] <exonormal> faLUCE: are you using a power USB hub?
[23:56] <ShadowJK> In principle, it's not an issue if you're doing hd<->wifi, and the circumstances in which you read or write to HD with such speed because of data produced or consumed by the CPU are somewhat rare
[23:56] <faLUCE> exonormal: no
[23:56] <faLUCE> but a powered usb HD
[23:56] <exonormal> then that is the answer
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[23:57] <exonormal> you need a powered USB hub... it will make a big diff
[23:57] <faLUCE> exonormal: but the usb drive is powered
[23:57] <ShadowJK> That's the same as a powered usb hub.
[23:57] <exonormal> so, that don't make any diff, still need the powered hub
[23:58] <faLUCE> exonormal: let's try, thanks for the hint
[23:58] <ShadowJK> The power consumption through USB, by a powered usb harddrive, is going to be approximately zero.
[23:58] <exonormal> it helps the wifi dongle get it's full power for full bandwidth
[23:58] <ShadowJK> faLUCE, what exactly are you doing when HD saturates USB?
[23:59] <ShadowJK> Oh I've actually seen usb wifi dongles exceed power delivery capability of rpi just on their own, in special cirucmstances..
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