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IRC Log for 2015-08-10

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[0:01] <faLUCE> ShadowJK: http transfers through owncloud
[0:01] <ShadowJK> hm.
[0:01] <ShadowJK> faLUCE, kinda makes no sense how that would be an issue. rpi would, at most, fill its ram from HD, and when full, would start sending over wifi.
[0:02] <faLUCE> ShadowJK: I agree
[0:02] <ShadowJK> Default settings don't allow for any readahead though
[0:02] <ShadowJK> Well almost
[0:02] <ShadowJK> So I don't see why it would be an issue...
[0:02] <ShadowJK> Anything exciting happening in the output of 'dmesg' command when you encounter the issue?
[0:03] <sockofleas> what version of linux is raspbian?
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[0:03] <sockofleas> the name
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[0:04] <exonormal> Wheezy Raspbian
[0:04] <H__> derived from debian
[0:04] <exonormal> look in www.raspberrypi.org.
[0:04] <faLUCE> sockofleas: jessie
[0:05] <sockofleas> ah, thank you
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[0:10] <jancoow> hi guys
[0:11] <jancoow> i'm looking for a way to play normal audio tracks in java on a raspberry pi
[0:11] <jancoow> when i'm using a normal clip i get a heap space problem because i think it's saving the whole song to a bytes array in the backgrounjd
[0:11] <jancoow> does someone know a better way?
[0:12] <ShadowJK> Whenever I've used java, the java vm has defaulted to some silly maximum heap by default
[0:12] <ShadowJK> Anyway, as for how to not load the entire song into ram, you're better off asking some java related channels, I would think
[0:14] <jancoow> mm, thanks anyways i will try to increase the heap space
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[0:15] <ShadowJK> That might solve it for small audio tracks, but for largers ones you just need to have a less stupid way of playing them.
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[0:16] <jancoow> true!
[0:16] <jancoow> this is really stupid indeed
[0:16] <jancoow> and its very sloww
[0:17] <jancoow> also stupid to do it in java, but my c++ skills aren't... uhm good ;p
[0:17] <ShadowJK> Unfortunately the last time I was seriously using java was back in the j2me days, when I tried to make streaming audio work by downloading .5 megabyte chunks at a time and playing them pack. While this worked beautifully in a non-java environment, the j2me environment was very unhappy in dealing with mp3s that had been cut at arbitrary places.
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[0:19] <jancoow> j2me? never heard of haha
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[0:20] <ShadowJK> micro edition
[0:20] <[Saint]> Does anyone know the raspbian-ua-netinst guy's IRC nick and/or if he's in here?
[0:20] <ShadowJK> around 1999 until the iphone came out, this was the more supported of "the big two" ways to write apps for cellphones.
[0:21] <jancoow> anyways, thanks for helping. I really have to go it's very late and in about 4 hours i have to go to work
[0:21] <jancoow> have a good night!
[0:21] <jancoow> sorry for cutting of your sorry
[0:21] <jancoow> bye!
[0:21] <jancoow> story*
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[0:36] <Berg> i just heard a rumor start trek is no real
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[0:38] <ShadowJK> Berg, I see.
[0:38] <Berg> do you?
[0:38] <ShadowJK> Well, according to star trek, world war 3 was a couple of years ago, and I didn't notice it? Did you?
[0:39] * Berg rolls into the fetal position
[0:39] * Berg stops responding
[0:39] <ShadowJK> And before world war 3, interstellar travel became a thing, in a way.
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[0:39] <ShadowJK> And before that, or at the same time as, the eugenics wars happened. I didn't notice.
[0:39] * Berg goes deaf
[0:39] * Berg goes blind
[0:40] * [Saint] puts a whale in an aluminium tank
[0:40] * Berg is not in denial
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[0:40] <ShadowJK> In the revised timeline, first contact takes place in the aftermath of WW3
[0:40] <Berg> see through aluminium
[0:40] <[Saint]> Also, Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!
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[0:41] <Berg> if star trek is not real how do you explane time travel?
[0:41] <ShadowJK> transparent aluminium? That's called sapphire, and Apple is rumoured to use it on current or future devices
[0:42] <[Saint]> It's not a rumour.
[0:42] <[Saint]> It's a fact.
[0:42] <Berg> and the delorian
[0:42] <ShadowJK> Ok
[0:42] <ShadowJK> delorean, you mean
[0:42] <Berg> i spell it how i want
[0:42] <ShadowJK> I saw a delorean for sale in my counter a few years ago. I am sad that I didn't buy
[0:42] <ShadowJK> country*
[0:42] <[Saint]> DegLorpalorpian.
[0:42] <ShadowJK> Now we're even with spelling.
[0:42] <Berg> not many around
[0:43] <ShadowJK> Yeah
[0:43] <ShadowJK> Made by an upstart, I would expect them all to have rusted by now
[0:43] <[Saint]> The ones that are are in truly terrible condition.
[0:43] <ShadowJK> as even established manufacturers can't figure out rust proofing
[0:43] <Berg> depends
[0:43] <[Saint]> Honestly, they're a really crap car.
[0:43] <[Saint]> They just look cool.
[0:43] <Berg> we have cars here that dont rust
[0:43] <ShadowJK> Well, sure
[0:43] <[Saint]> Engine, drivetain, interior...all terrible.
[0:43] <[Saint]> Like, really terrible.
[0:43] <Berg> but we dont put salt on our roads
[0:43] <ShadowJK> Diesel powered merceded from the 80s are impervious to rust
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[0:44] <[Saint]> See also: Jeeps
[0:44] <Berg> we haver cars here that run on rust
[0:44] <Berg> heheh
[0:44] <Berg> dont kick any panels
[0:44] <ShadowJK> Sometime around early 90s they stopped being rustproof though.
[0:44] <ali1234> RoHS strikes again?
[0:45] <[Saint]> It's one of those truly and painfully obvious "planned obsolescence" things that people just gleefully accept.
[0:45] <[Saint]> It's bonkers.
[0:45] <ShadowJK> Berg, Unfortunately here we have to present cars every year to an annual inspection. The inspection officer goes around with a screwdriver and pokes at things to see if there is rust.
[0:45] <[Saint]> It costs like a few bucks to make a tonne of steal (literally) impervious to rust.
[0:45] <Berg> same here
[0:45] <[Saint]> Yet...they don't.
[0:45] <[Saint]> *steel
[0:45] <Berg> its not unusual to want worthy cars on the road
[0:45] <ali1234> how?
[0:45] <[Saint]> How what?
[0:46] <Berg> throw in some nickel
[0:46] <ali1234> how do you make steel impervious to rust?
[0:46] <Berg> learn metalurgy
[0:46] <[Saint]> Berg has it.
[0:46] <Berg> its easy
[0:46] <[Saint]> Existing cars can also be treated electrically after the fact for a truly exorbitant cost that's a terrible shakedown.
[0:47] <Berg> you can also electro plate panels to never rust
[0:47] <ali1234> stainless isn't exactly impervious to rust though...
[0:47] <[Saint]> hahaha - snap Berg
[0:47] <Berg> great minds [S
[0:47] <ali1234> and plating wears off
[0:47] <Berg> yead
[0:47] <Berg> yes
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[0:47] <ShadowJK> I am told, that good importers of good cars drill little holes into the beams, and fill the empty space with wax, then seal the hole with water-rejecting sealant. Then they spray the underside of the car with a very thick oil, mixed with fine sand, to create a coating
[0:47] <Berg> this is a topic i know well i spent my life working with all metals
[0:48] <ShadowJK> Importers of cheap korean cars do none of this, and regardless of how good the metal is treated in KOrea, the cars succumb to rust quite quickly.
[0:48] <ali1234> ShadowJK: what does that do? the wax?
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[0:48] <Berg> have a aluminium smelter in my garden
[0:48] <ShadowJK> ali1234, "permanent" water displacement
[0:48] <Berg> why buy korean cars then?
[0:48] <ShadowJK> It's not really permanent though, it has to be renewed every 10 years
[0:49] <ShadowJK> Berg, obviously the cheap prices attract
[0:49] <Berg> not obvious
[0:49] <ali1234> the wax keeps the water out of the holes? why drill the holes in the first place? i don't get it :S
[0:49] <ShadowJK> WHen you can get a brand new car for 20 grand, and a toyota corolla costs 25 grand
[0:49] <Berg> logic dictates buy a good car
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[0:49] <ShadowJK> ali1234, it is assumed that the beams are not air tight, and that temperature changes will cause condensation
[0:50] <ali1234> oh, like hollow beams?
[0:50] <ShadowJK> Yes
[0:50] <ali1234> fill them up entirely with wax?
[0:50] <ali1234> i see
[0:50] <ali1234> i was thinking like solid beams
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[0:50] <Berg> fill them with argon
[0:50] <ShadowJK> Solid beams are obviously not an issue :)
[0:50] <Berg> sheesh man
[0:50] <Berg> you need oixigen to rust
[0:51] <ShadowJK> Because if they're solid, you can allow quite alot of corrosion before htey become an issue for structural integrity.
[0:51] <Berg> remove oxigen form the roads
[0:51] <ali1234> then you get vacuum tunnel trains
[0:51] <Berg> yeah tunnel
[0:51] <Berg> no rust
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[0:52] <Berg> if you wona have passengers therer is a issue with breathing but thats not important
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[0:52] <ali1234> or just make everything out of plastic
[0:52] <Berg> I am impressed that here in australia we do not have much issue with rust like we used to
[0:53] <Berg> climate will play a lot in the rust department
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[0:56] <ShadowJK> Man, I can't find any now, but usually swedish car magazine use to publish annual rust statistics
[0:56] <ShadowJK> And they also do rust protection reviews
[0:57] <ShadowJK> Berg, up here in the Nordics, car usable lifespan is limited by rust
[0:57] <Berg> i understand that
[0:58] <Berg> i contributingt factor is salt on or sand on the roads
[0:58] <ShadowJK> I scrapped my previous car, because rust repairs were approaching 1000 bucks a year
[0:58] <ShadowJK> And I never drove on salted roads
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[0:58] <Berg> so each summer they wash and polish the roads to remove all the salt?
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[0:58] <Berg> you will have salt
[0:59] <ShadowJK> We don't really... The local authorities are too poor to use salt, and, salt is only useful in relatively warm temperatures hovering around -5 to 0 Centigrades
[0:59] <Berg> :)
[1:00] <Berg> ok
[1:00] <ShadowJK> The only road I traverse that would be considered a target for salting, because it's heavily trafficked, is off limits for salting, because it's a groundwater area with several pumping stations
[1:01] <ShadowJK> At best we get sanded corners and hills :)
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[1:01] <ShadowJK> If temp goes close to 0, that is
[1:01] <ShadowJK> otherwise, cold ice is considered "normal winter driving conditions"
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[1:03] <ShadowJK> Snowclearing threshold is defined in terms of transverse clearance
[1:04] <ShadowJK> that is, if your put your wheels in the lowest tracks in the road
[1:04] <ShadowJK> and your front grille/spoiler starts plowing snow
[1:04] <ShadowJK> And your car has more htan 30cm ground clearance
[1:04] <ShadowJK> then road maintenance has officially fucked up
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[1:05] <ShadowJK> (but if they've deployed and are busy at work, they don't get a reprimand)
[1:06] <ShadowJK> In my Toyota Avensis (Corolla-ish), I've dealt with snowbanks higher than the hood of the car :-D
[1:08] <ShadowJK> Though cmofortably I would prefer to not go through snow depths deeper than tyres, so 40 cm or so
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[1:21] <exonormal> where is this at? ShadowJK
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[1:21] <ShadowJK> Sorry, I was disconnected. WHat is your exact question?
[1:21] <exonormal> where is this at? ShadowJK
[1:21] <ShadowJK> Road conditions? Finland
[1:22] <exonormal> ahh.. nice
[1:22] <exonormal> that's where they do winter snow racing
[1:22] <ShadowJK> Well, yeah
[1:23] <exonormal> my Dad used to buy the Saab 95 & 99s
[1:23] <ShadowJK> The world record for fastest tractor was also doone in the north of Finland
[1:23] <exonormal> cool
[1:24] <ShadowJK> You have triggered me. I will now tell tales of me in highschool.
[1:24] <exonormal> lol
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[1:24] <exonormal> sorry aboutthat
[1:25] <ShadowJK> One early morning, when the weather was unusually warm, and I was on the schoolbus, about halfway to school (it was a one hour journey),
[1:25] <ShadowJK> we encountered a hill that hadn't been sanded
[1:26] <exonormal> wow, one hour... wow
[1:26] <ShadowJK> Our driver was amazing, with the real wheel drive bus he attempted to kick the "arse" out to the sides of the road where there was snow, to "kick" speed by the added traction snow offered above ice
[1:26] <exonormal> yes and?
[1:27] <ShadowJK> But eventually even with the frighteningly high speed out of a turn that he entered the hill, and with the added "tricks" of bouncing left and right across the road to hit roadside snow, we came to a halt mid hill
[1:27] <exonormal> oops
[1:28] <exonormal> time to get the kids out and push the bus, lol
[1:28] <ShadowJK> The driver, your typical laid back almost hippy type declared "Well, this is it. I'll go on foot to find a phone, you guys go out and have fun in the snow!"
[1:28] <ShadowJK> There was no chance at all of pushing the bus, lol
[1:28] <exonormal> lol
[1:28] <exonormal> I bet
[1:29] <exonormal> no nearby farmer with a tractor?
[1:29] <ShadowJK> Like, the some kids slid down all of the hill and couldn't walk up by the road, too slipper, and they had to go via the woods to walk up
[1:29] <ShadowJK> Anyway!
[1:29] <exonormal> or even a group of horses?
[1:29] <ShadowJK> Me and some others had made it up to the top of the hill
[1:29] <exonormal> lol
[1:29] <exonormal> talk about misery
[1:30] <ShadowJK> ALong with the driver, who offered us cigs (I was like 14, and declined, lol)
[1:30] <exonormal> wow
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[1:30] <ShadowJK> At the top of the hill, he managed to get a signal on his analog 450 Mhz phone
[1:30] <exonormal> cool
[1:31] <ShadowJK> The local government dispatched a rescue vehicle to come get us out :D
[1:31] <exonormal> no kidding... wow
[1:31] <ShadowJK> At the top of the hill, there was straight and level road for like half a kilometre
[1:31] <ShadowJK> Sufficiently close to half a mile for your US guys ;)
[1:31] <exonormal> yes
[1:32] <exonormal> not far
[1:32] <ShadowJK> We could see the sanding truck appraoch in the distance and make the final curb with minor skidding
[1:32] <exonormal> can walk it in few mins
[1:32] <ShadowJK> He was only going like 30km/h or so
[1:32] <exonormal> I bet
[1:33] <ShadowJK> He started braking at that point, alternating snowchained wheels locked and steering
[1:33] <exonormal> oh wow... that slippery
[1:33] <ShadowJK> Us young kids were like "pussy! Why are you braking, get over here FAST we wanna get out of here!!!!"
[1:33] <exonormal> lol
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[1:34] <exonormal> I bet many yrs later they all realized why he did that
[1:34] <ShadowJK> A MINUTE later, he was still alternating locking wheels for braking and steering, and managed to come to a halt just at the top of the hill
[1:35] <exonormal> now that's just pure ice
[1:35] <ShadowJK> Yeah!
[1:36] <SpeedEvil> It gets that cold here. For a week every 20 years.
[1:36] <exonormal> very hard frozen smooth ice.
[1:36] <SpeedEvil> :)
[1:37] <exonormal> probably could be clear enough to see through it to see the road center lines...
[1:37] <ShadowJK> The rescue truck driver had everyone walk up to the top of the hill, via the woods, and from there we formed a chain, holding hands, descending down the hill
[1:37] <exonormal> no kidding, wow
[1:38] <ShadowJK> This "human centipede" distributed sand by passing it from the top to the bottom and distributing :)
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[1:38] <ShadowJK> And the rescue truck reversed and put like half a ton of sand at the very top of the hill
[1:38] <exonormal> I bet.. one distinguished process
[1:38] <ShadowJK> and then connected a towline :)
[1:39] <ShadowJK> We only arrived 2 hours later than planned :D
[1:39] <exonormal> lol
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[1:39] <exonormal> I bet but you made it and not sorry
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[1:40] <ShadowJK> Not sorry at all, I missed math and biology. I was happy. :)
[1:41] <exonormal> lol
[1:41] <exonormal> well.. I barely made it through high school.
[1:42] <ShadowJK> ANOTHER TIME, I am still triggered, when I was older and could drive car, I was driving to school for a very important exam.
[1:42] <ShadowJK> It has snowed heavily the night
[1:42] <ShadowJK> Coming down some hills, the nose dived into heavy snow banks, the snow went over the hood of the car and flowed onto windshield
[1:42] <exonormal> some 20 yrs later I got laid off work and went back to school.. took me 7 yrs to get 2 year degree...
[1:43] <exonormal> yup done that many times
[1:43] <ShadowJK> I was the first driver who had droven the roads after the snowfall, and the wind had made everything absolutely smooth
[1:43] <ShadowJK> impossible to see snow depths at all
[1:43] <exonormal> I bet
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[1:44] <ShadowJK> At one point I thought I was fucked, there was more of a THUD than so far
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[1:44] <ShadowJK> and the winshield was covered iwth snow from bottom to top and car stopped completely
[1:44] <exonormal> you need to set up a pi to do depth scanning while you drive
[1:44] <ShadowJK> However, I was able to reverse out of it and punch it another time and get through :D
[1:45] <exonormal> lol
[1:45] <ShadowJK> Amazingly, I've never had to use shovel :D
[1:45] <exonormal> thrill seeker, eh?
[1:45] <ShadowJK> Not really.
[1:45] <exonormal> lol
[1:46] <ShadowJK> It was a very important exam, so extremely important that no amount of snow would have excused me not being there
[1:46] <exonormal> I see.. destined to make the trip no matter what...
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[1:48] <ShadowJK> yep
[1:48] <ShadowJK> exonormal, out of interest, you said you barely made it out of high school, what did you work with after that?
[1:48] <ShadowJK> after high school
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[1:50] <exonormal> I was a factory worker, at NCR on many jobs for almost 20 yrs
[1:50] <ShadowJK> What does NCR mean?
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[1:51] <exonormal> I did punch press, plating, assembly, inspection, etc. it was National Cash Register Co.
[1:51] <exonormal> now I am an High Power Lab engineer
[1:51] <hamrove> dayton?
[1:52] <exonormal> no, Ithaca, NY
[1:52] <ShadowJK> After highschool, I went to university, and well, burned out completely and utterly, and dropped out. Through some amazing stroke of luck, I was hired a factory. To be honest, if I had been in charge, I wouldn't have hired me.
[1:52] <hamrove> ah
[1:52] <exonormal> Dayton was the headquarters
[1:52] <hamrove> oh right, they left dayton
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[1:52] <hamrove> put a lot of locals out of work there (i'm not from there; just 4yrs at the base)
[1:52] <exonormal> no, it was a division of main co.
[1:52] <hamrove> but i remember locals were very upset
[1:53] <exonormal> yup
[1:54] <hamrove> Delphi, the auto industry company, put them out of work around the same time. perfect storm I guess.
[1:54] <ShadowJK> Eventually, my lust for knowledge, progress, improvement, and shit returned, and I was recognized my factory management.. I'm now a "fake electrician" in maitenance/repairs/R&D, and $work is going to sponsor me getting a proper degree
[1:54] <exonormal> lol
[1:55] <exonormal> been in that area in NCR.. didn't like it cuz of union in the factory
[1:55] <sockofleas> what caused you to burn out, you think?
[1:55] <ShadowJK> Unions, sigh.
[1:56] <ShadowJK> The US way of unions sounds so suck
[1:56] <exonormal> I don't like unions
[1:56] <exonormal> they are dictatorships
[1:56] <ShadowJK> If I have understood it correctly, once half of works in some place agree to union, everyone is forced to union?
[1:56] <exonormal> yes
[1:56] <exonormal> no matter what.
[1:57] <taza> The New California Republic
[1:57] <taza> The Mojave desert makes you wish for a nuclear winter...
[1:57] <ShadowJK> Over here, as a worker, you can be non-union even if 99.9% of other workers are union
[1:57] <sockofleas> ShadowJK: what caused you to burn out, you think?
[1:57] <exonormal> lucky
[1:57] <exonormal> brb
[1:58] <ShadowJK> So, in my current workplace, there are about 60% union members. If union decides on a strike, there will still be 40% left working.
[1:58] <ShadowJK> And these 40% will get, if needed, fucking military escort
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[1:59] <sockofleas> okay then
[1:59] <ShadowJK> I think it's a much fairer system
[2:01] <ShadowJK> I often feel disgusted by the "socialists"/"communists" at work
[2:02] <ShadowJK> Their general opinion of "X has already so much, we should be lazy"
[2:02] <ali1234> nobody is forced to be in a union in the UK
[2:02] <ShadowJK> My life philosophy is to always improve
[2:03] <ShadowJK> And these guys are like "What level is adequate?"
[2:03] <ShadowJK> It's not about adequate
[2:03] <ShadowJK> it's about constant improvement!
[2:04] <ali1234> yeah if you want constant improvement you're going to have to constantly improve my salary
[2:04] <ShadowJK> Salary improvements come through productivity improvements :)
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[2:05] <ShadowJK> I used to read union <-> employer agreements back when I wasn't a member, because for some reason those agreements still applied
[2:05] <ShadowJK> All pay raises were always dependent on productivity increases
[2:06] <ShadowJK> Not something unions ever tell their members.
[2:06] <ali1234> yes, in other words you benefited from the existance of a union despite not being a member
[2:07] <ShadowJK> In a macroeconomical context it makes perfect sense. If you want more money, you have to be more efficient than everyone else.
[2:07] <ShadowJK> sure
[2:07] <ali1234> collective bargaining is more efficient
[2:08] <ShadowJK> And I can use my free choice of being a member, or not being a member, to influence the union, ever so slightly, in the direction I agree with
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[2:09] <ShadowJK> If the union is, in my opinion, demanding too much, I can quit, and keep working
[2:10] <ShadowJK> If the employer is, in my opinion, demanding too much, I can remain member of union, get union cash for striking
[2:11] <ShadowJK> I know that in the UK, among other places, union workers will attack people who choose to work, but that doesn't really happen here. If you choose to work, that choice is respected.
[2:11] <[Saint]> We recently had union employees strike over a pay rise here.
[2:12] <[Saint]> ...I'll never understand union mentality.
[2:12] <[Saint]> I don't mean they had a strike over not getting a pay rise.
[2:12] <Broly> probably because they want the company to be sustainable
[2:12] <[Saint]> They got exactly what they wanted, and then struck.
[2:12] <sockofleas> ali1234: i talked to you before i think about the software on linux
[2:12] <Broly> and probably the increase in salary made them fear it'd teeter towards instability
[2:12] <Broly> and tehy don't want to risk the long term health, even if it may be a marginal one
[2:12] <sockofleas> ali1234: its obvious now that i probably will not be able to use wine
[2:13] <sockofleas> ali1234: do i have any other options though?
[2:13] <ShadowJK> lol what
[2:13] <[Saint]> They demanded a pay rise and struck when they got it.
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[2:13] <ali1234> ShadowJK: that hasn't happened on a large scale since the 80s
[2:13] <[Saint]> I think they're just retarded to be honest.
[2:13] <Broly> so they wanted a raise, got the amount they wanted, and struck?
[2:13] <ShadowJK> ali1234, what has not happened since the 80s?
[2:13] <[Saint]> Yep.
[2:13] <Broly> lol
[2:13] <Broly> is this in america?
[2:13] <ali1234> ShadowJK: strikers attacking people who choose to work
[2:13] <[Saint]> New Zealand, making it particularly odd.
[2:13] <Broly> indeed!
[2:13] <Broly> i was going to say "oh well that explains everythign"
[2:13] <Broly> because i expected you to say yes
[2:14] <[Saint]> Heh. :)
[2:14] <Broly> dairy industry?
[2:14] <ShadowJK> ali1234, ah
[2:14] <ali1234> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_miners%27_strike_%281984%E2%80%9385%29
[2:14] <Broly> i know some NZ farmers really wanted TPP because tehy could farm their milk out across the ocean
[2:14] <ShadowJK> Ah, general strikes :)
[2:15] <ShadowJK> We had some of them in the 80s
[2:15] <ali1234> sockofleas: the zip file you posted looks like the software is .NET so you might be able to run it in mono, maybe
[2:15] <Berg> I dont want tpp because it would make BO hyappy
[2:15] <ShadowJK> I remember them even though I was a child
[2:15] <Broly> i don't either
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[2:15] <Broly> i love all commonwealth realms
[2:15] <Broly> was jw what industry would have workers strike after their demands are met
[2:15] <sockofleas> ali1234: what is mono?
[2:15] <ali1234> sockofleas: .NET for linux
[2:15] <sockofleas> that's an app?
[2:15] <ali1234> sort of yeah
[2:15] <ali1234> you can think of it like java
[2:16] <ali1234> except it's not java
[2:16] <ali1234> it's a runtime
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[2:16] <ShadowJK> TV was playing some generic melody on repeat, radio was playing the same melody on repeat, banks were closed, however, my parents were dairy farmers, and the dairy had prepared by obtaining enormours amounts of cash, and when the milk truck came to collect the milk, it left a big envelope of cash
[2:17] <ali1234> ShadowJK: we still have general strikes, especially with the trains. but they are relatively peaceful now
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[2:17] <sockofleas> ali1234: so if i install .net it will work?
[2:17] <ali1234> sockofleas: if you install mono it might work
[2:17] <ShadowJK> I don't even know what that stike was about
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[2:17] <[Saint]> Broly: we have precisely zero problems exporting dairy products in NZ already, it's one of our major exports - TPP wouldn't really change that.
[2:17] <ShadowJK> I thinki t was before the nineties recession
[2:18] <[Saint]> Broly: also - no, it was cashier staff
[2:18] <[Saint]> They wanted a raise, negotiated $0.30/h increase, got it, and then struck because it was "measely"
[2:19] <[Saint]> The employer "should have offered more than the negotiated value"
[2:19] <[Saint]> ...hilarious.
[2:20] <ShadowJK> The nineties recession resulted in about 25% unemployment and 40% GDP fall out of the blue :/
[2:21] <[Saint]> Mostly because of people freaking out and causing bank runs and then the banks having to do on-spot recalls
[2:21] <[Saint]> People /thinking/ there's a recession will almost always actually cause one.
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[2:21] <[Saint]> It's an interesting dynamic.
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[2:21] <ShadowJK> yes
[2:21] <Berg> self sufficient people dont use banks
[2:22] <Broly> [Saint]: whoa they got greedy
[2:22] <Broly> lol
[2:22] <Broly> surprised
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[2:22] <Broly> yeah i know milk is already doing well, but the farmers wanted TPP to flood other markets
[2:22] <Broly> hehe
[2:22] <Broly> interrupting other countries' local equilibria
[2:22] <Berg> take a tribeman in africa he has no money therefore no need of banks
[2:22] <[Saint]> A huge body of our milk products already go to China, the US, the UK, and large swathes of the EU.
[2:22] <Berg> send them milk?
[2:23] <Berg> what country [Saint]
[2:23] <Broly> i dunno i can see a future where commonwealth realms produce separate things and import big amounts between eachother. it seems like a way better approach than TPP or any of these other outsourcing type deals that involve the world's biggest moochers (US)
[2:23] <ali1234> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-33840815
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[2:23] <Berg> the empire is dead
[2:23] <Berg> heheh
[2:24] <[Saint]> TPP is dead in AUstralia, and on it's last gasping breates here in NZ.
[2:24] <SpeedEvil> The commonwealth doesn't work, as UK is a member of the EU, and commonwealth countries aren't.
[2:24] <[Saint]> Thankfully.
[2:24] <[Saint]> It's a woefully stupid idea.
[2:24] <Berg> good
[2:24] <Broly> yea canada doesn't want it either
[2:24] <SpeedEvil> this means that outside-EU importers face tarrifs coming into the EU, even if they're part of the commonwealth
[2:24] <Berg> we dont want the USA dictating costs to us
[2:24] <Broly> personally i think produce from NZ/AU etc should be our primary source, aside from whatever we can grow/use on our coasts
[2:24] <[Saint]> WHich is hilarious, because that's three of "the big five"
[2:25] <Berg> evil barraCK obAMA
[2:25] <[Saint]> AU/NZ/UK/US/CA
[2:25] <Broly> commonwealth ain't EU unfortunately. not saying there won't be relaxed rules for participation, but surely it's not the focus
[2:25] <[Saint]> "the five eyes"
[2:25] <Broly> already got migrant issues coming pu and that shit pisses me off
[2:25] <SpeedEvil> The content creation industry makes FIFA look sparkling white in terms of legislative influence.
[2:25] <Broly> it's all rothschild
[2:25] <Berg> THE EVIL NAME
[2:26] <Berg> they all in bred anyway
[2:26] <exonormal> ahh, we used to have a Rothchilds' store here, lol
[2:26] <Berg> dont let it out of the family
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[2:27] <Broly> they are
[2:27] <Broly> well they fucked up half the world trying to prolong their ponzi
[2:27] <Broly> it's unbelievable they've resorted to massive human trafficking
[2:27] <Broly> rumour is that subway is used as a vehicle for trafficking as well, which wouldn't surprise me given that their mascot was a sick pedo fuck
[2:28] <ali1234> okay that's totally not suitable for this channel
[2:28] <Broly> it's true
[2:28] <ali1234> maybe, still not suitable
[2:28] <Broly> jared from subway paid a 16 year old girl 100 dollars to have sex
[2:28] <Broly> ok
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[2:29] <Berg> lets get back to talking about milk
[2:29] <Broly> no prob
[2:29] <ShadowJK> So
[2:29] <ShadowJK> Chickens
[2:29] <Berg> i like milo
[2:29] <ShadowJK> I am told that all USA chickens have salmonella
[2:29] <Berg> actualy the kiwi's have huge dairies here
[2:30] <ali1234> duh. that's why you have to cook them...
[2:30] <Berg> they showing how its done right to aussies
[2:30] <ShadowJK> I am also told by USAians, that salmonella is "an unvoidable part of chicken breeding"
[2:30] <ShadowJK> however
[2:30] <ShadowJK> in Finland, salmonella is eradicated, and the population has never been exposed to salmonella
[2:31] <Berg> is calling asian chickens salmonella racist?
[2:31] <ShadowJK> indeed, I had a classmate who visited belgium and ate "normal" chicken and got infected
[2:31] <ShadowJK> he was in a wheelchair for 12 months
[2:31] <ali1234> finland is a tiny country though, compared to USA...
[2:31] <Berg> yeah but thats what they saying about the rio olympics if you not used to the water you gona get very ill
[2:33] <ali1234> also http://www.thepoultrysite.com/poultrynews/17409/salmonella-epidemic-in-finland-worsens/
[2:33] <Berg> heheheh
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[2:34] <ShadowJK> Yeah the differnece is that in the US, there are no checks, and nobody cares
[2:34] <Berg> eventualy we will either erraticate all desceases and die from a unknow strain or we will have epidemic after epidemic
[2:34] <ShadowJK> Because it's considered "unavoidable"
[2:35] <ali1234> i'm sure there are examples of the reverse
[2:35] <Berg> and man will be the survival of the fitterst again
[2:35] <ali1234> can't think of any...
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[2:36] <Berg> this insultation from nature is a bad thing man will die out inb one huge hit
[2:36] <ali1234> like i'm sure there's some food that can't e imported from the EU because it doesn't reach american standards
[2:36] <SpeedEvil> ali1234: Kinder surprise eggs.
[2:36] <ali1234> *exported.... i think it's maybe cheese?
[2:36] <Berg> its fungus
[2:36] <ali1234> like all american cheese has to be pasteurized because of bacteria
[2:36] <ali1234> but in europe nobody cares
[2:37] <Berg> only poreple of culture can eat cheese
[2:37] <Berg> people
[2:37] <Berg> ok my work is done here
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[2:38] <ali1234> then there was the whole horsemeat scandal
[2:38] <ali1234> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_meat_adulteration_scandal
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[2:46] <SpeedEvil> That was massively spun as unsafe due to licencing issues that horse painkillers aren't OK for humans
[2:46] <SpeedEvil> while neglecting that humans are actually taking the same stuff for arthritus at levels thousands of times higher
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[2:52] <ali1234> i didn't hear anything about that, the news spun it as "no threat to human health" here
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[3:18] <SpeedEvil> ali1234: yes - the implication was it was a human health issue - while saying in small print it was not
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[3:30] <exonormal> you guys should listen to this person, he's really good... http://www.ted.com
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[3:41] <NedScott> I don't think "Ted" is actually a single person..
[3:42] <exonormal> no, but there's a lot of good info in those "talks"
[3:45] <CoJaBo> rofl
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[4:11] <hosler> lol pi2 emulation on qemu is slow than actual pi it feels like
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[4:17] <[Saint]> If you CPU doesn't have HW virtualization support that is highly likely
[4:17] <[Saint]> *your
[4:17] <[Saint]> qemu can be fairly resource intensive
[4:18] <[Saint]> But, actually, even if it does have HW virtualization I'm not sure if that would help a bunch emulating ARM.
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[4:23] <hosler> someone said it would be faster than using distcc and i believed them
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[4:30] <[Saint]> Distcc isn't going to make a significant difference unless what you're working with is primarily C anyway.
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[5:07] <linuxuz3r> whats a powerful raspberry pi model
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[5:07] <SyncYourDogmas> B 2
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[5:09] <exonormal> and it's a good one too.. wow
[5:09] <linuxuz3r> what is the spec of b2 and b
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[5:10] <SyncYourDogmas> Powerful being relative
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[6:16] <linuxuz3r> does bluetooth reciever works with rpi
[6:17] <exonormal> yes
[6:18] <exonormal> like a mouse wireless dongle
[6:18] <exonormal> any bluetooth dongle will work on the pi
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[6:19] <exonormal> you have to plug it in then reboot it and if not found, have to update it then maybe do upgrade
[6:20] <exonormal> then reboot so it loads
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[7:07] <kenrestivo> i am wondering if i am the only person on earth trying to get initramfs to work with device tree kernel on pi2
[7:08] <kenrestivo> problem is: putting initramfs in config.txt doesn't actually run the initramfs. only by turning device tree off does the initramfs load.
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[7:37] <linuxuz3r> whats the largest capacity of micro sd can raspberry pi use
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[8:24] <fydel> hi! I am having a problem with my raspi 2. it does not scale up from 600 to 900 mhz
[8:25] <fydel> I changed /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ondemand/up_threshold to 1 but no change in cpu speed under load
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[9:03] <Lina> o/
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[10:29] <t3chguy> Gadgetoid: you around yet :P?
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[12:05] <dtscode> hey guys... I was hoping someone could help me with setting up my network card on my rpi?
[12:07] <H__> in raspbian ? in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[12:07] <ShorTie> doesn't the router do that with dhcp ??
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[12:08] <dtscode> or hrmmm never mind. I forgot I could use a direct connection
[12:09] <dtscode> sorry for the interruption :D
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[12:46] <ftonello> Hey guys, anyone here building images using yocto?
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[13:15] <doomlord> anyone know of something to decompile arm binaries into C source or LLVM
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[13:23] <xubun2> whats the latest stable firmware version for rpi-update?
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[14:26] <freezevee> IS it possible to simulate a network connection via usb (for those who are into BBB also)
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[14:27] <freezevee> that means I can ssh from my host machine to an ip on rPi while only USB is connected to the host ?
[14:28] <pksato> only normal cable? no. both are host type.
[14:29] <pksato> usb need a host (computer) and a guest (device) to work.
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[14:31] <shiftplusone> you could maybe set up some sort of very slow network connection over serial to usb adapter, but.... don't.
[14:32] * niston is building an IKEA LackRack (tm)
[14:33] <t3chguy> lol
[14:33] <t3chguy> the LackRack looks cool
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[14:33] <niston> freezevee: http://www.linux-usb.org/usbnet/
[14:34] <Armand> niston: We're planning on making two. :D
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[14:35] <freezevee> niston: thank you I found that http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/3867/ssh-to-rpi-without-a-network-connection from your link
[14:36] <freezevee> perfect
[14:37] <niston> Armand: http://imgur.com/M89Nw12
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[14:39] <freezevee> has anyone ever worked with GPIO and ruby ?
[14:39] <freezevee> is it possible ? or is it just python ?
[14:39] <niston> can you call C stuff from ruby ?
[14:39] <freezevee> never done that
[14:40] <freezevee> can you call C stuff from python? Is it how python works on rPi ?
[14:40] <niston> if you can call the wiringpi library from ruby, then your problem is solved
[14:40] <shiftplusone> I am sure you can use gpio from ruby
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[14:40] <niston> for a cheap trick, you could also use the "gpio" utility via shell execute
[14:40] <niston> or rather, whatever the equivalent of shell execute is on linux :p
[14:41] <shiftplusone> You can use GPIO from any language that can do file io... so... all of them.
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[14:41] <shiftplusone> for example, https://github.com/jwhitehorn/pi_piper
[14:42] <niston> ah yes
[14:42] <freezevee> interesting
[14:42] <Armand> niston: Something like that :)
[14:43] <freezevee> I wonder If there's an implementation more professional for ruby
[14:43] <freezevee> a gem or something
[14:43] <freezevee> there are some things however but I am not sure If they've been used
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[14:47] <niston> hmm
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[14:47] <niston> I wonder if you could use usbnet with something like http://www.xilinx.com/products/zynq-7000/linux.htm
[14:48] <niston> and then connect raspis by USB
[14:48] <niston> instead of ethernet
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[14:49] <niston> or even just with an FPGA instead of the zynq SoC
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[14:50] <freezevee> I have a beaglebone and I just connected it via usb and then added the usb to serial drivers to my osx
[14:50] <niston> could make for an interesting cluster controller if it offered two gigE ports or so as well
[14:50] <ThinkingofPython> shiftplusone Im sad that the edu fund has dissapeared from the Pi site :P
[14:50] <ThinkingofPython> sadface.dll
[14:50] <freezevee> and it worked so easy that I wanted to find out how could rpi do the same
[14:51] <ThinkingofPython> I figure it's canceled or something like you mentioned, shiftplusone
[14:51] <shiftplusone> ThinkingofPython: no idea
[14:52] <ThinkingofPython> Atleast the CEO message isn't there anymore when I load the page xD
[14:52] <ThinkingofPython> No worries, making discussion. What's new with you man?
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[14:52] <shiftplusone> Not much... the todo list is overflowing, so I'll be pretty quiet today.
[14:53] <ThinkingofPython> ah damn eh
[14:53] <ThinkingofPython> A busy workday is a good workday
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[14:55] <yaronr> hi everyone
[14:55] <yaronr> How can I verify that I installed the mpeg2 license correctly?
[14:55] <ThinkingofPython> I've been busy too. On a 1 month vacation in Hong Kong, eating, getting fat (yey), and working on my other side business :)
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[15:43] <tronko> is this a good camera module and does it work with Raspberry2? http://www.electrokit.com/kamerakort-for-raspberry-pi.50881
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[15:45] <Encrypt> tronko, It seems to be the official one :)
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[15:47] <tronko> Encrypt: ok, and it works with the RP2?
[15:48] <SpeedEvil> All Pi-compatible camera modules are made with the same camera chip - there are no knock-offs.
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[15:48] <SpeedEvil> The PCB may vary somewhat on the clones - but if it works - and there are no lens issues - it's exactly teh same performance
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[15:52] <tronko> if they work with A/B they work with 2?
[15:53] <tronko> whats the best way to watch the camera feed live, can i just hook the RP2 to my computer and stream the video?
[15:53] <SpeedEvil> yes
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[15:53] <SpeedEvil> There is no simple 'webcam' way to do it, over USB if that's what you mean
[15:53] <SpeedEvil> Unfortunately, the pi USB socket doesn't support that
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[16:00] <tronko> SpeedEvil: for the camera, i dont need any connector? i just buy the RP2 and the camera and they connect directly?
[16:00] <SpeedEvil> yes
[16:01] <SpeedEvil> the camera lead plugs into a little connector on the Pi (1 or 2)
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[16:02] <Encrypt> tronko, Have a look: http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/images/product/Pi%20Camera_04.jpg
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[16:16] <DrunkenDwarf> Hi all. Got a quick little question, don't have my pi here to test. When you plug headphones into the line-out socket, does it cut audio from the HDMI like plugging headphones into a computer?
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[16:21] <shiftplusone> DrunkenDwarf: nope, it's not able to detect that
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[16:23] <DrunkenDwarf> shiftplusone: poop :( ..... okay, thankyou :)
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[16:27] <NedScott> so I'm making a portable pi using a gameboy DSi XL, and I thought I would put a keyboard on the lower half were the bottom screen used to be
[16:27] <NedScott> and I've been hunting for possible keyboards, not finding any that would fit that small size
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[16:28] <NedScott> then I found this: http://www.newsdownload.co.uk/pages/RPiGpioXBoxChatPad.html
[16:28] <NedScott> god bless this man
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[16:28] <NedScott> it works with just four pins
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[16:30] <t3chguy> 4 pins is a lot NedScott
[16:31] <t3chguy> considering a USB Keyboard only uses 2 contacts for data transmission
[16:31] <NedScott> well, two GPIO pins, and then ground and power
[16:31] <t3chguy> ah, so same as USB then
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[16:31] <NedScott> sort of
[16:31] <t3chguy> in amount
[16:31] <t3chguy> not in implementation
[16:31] <NedScott> I figured it would have been more, since it connects to the xbox controller normally
[16:32] <t3chguy> oh lol its a chatpad
[16:32] <NedScott> so I figured they just had the chatpad as the basic buttons and nothing else
[16:32] <NedScott> but this is even better
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[16:36] <tronko> is it necessary with installation cables (as opposed to patchcables) in real environments?
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[16:39] <NedScott> is it weird that I want to have Ben Heck's babies?
[16:39] <NedScott> http://www.element14.com/community/community/experts/benheck
[16:39] <ThinkingofPython> < knows Ben Heck and Palmer Luckey personally
[16:39] <ThinkingofPython> lol
[16:39] <NedScott> nice
[16:39] <ThinkingofPython> Been a part of the Console Portablizing community since early 2000's ;)
[16:40] <ThinkingofPython> benheck forums, moderetro, etc
[16:40] <ThinkingofPython> :3
[16:40] <NedScott> oh cool
[16:40] <ctrlshftn> Whoa youre lucky ThinkingofPython
[16:40] <ctrlshftn> I respect the shit out of Ben Heck
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[16:40] <ThinkingofPython> lol not lucky enough to be rich and well known ;)
[16:41] <ThinkingofPython> I'm well known in the console hacking, and retro game development (gbdev, n64dev, nesdev) communities
[16:41] <ThinkingofPython> but not nearly as much as Ben or Palmer
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[16:41] <ThinkingofPython> I make games for Gameboy now though. Went from hardware to software
[16:41] <NedScott> maybe you might know this, then. I'm looking for some low-profile joysticks. Internet seems to think PSP replacement joysticks are the way to go. I'm not sure if there's anything better, at least for use with a Pi.
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[16:41] <ThinkingofPython> and now trying to get back into hardware with my Pi. It's been way too long since I've used a soldering iron
[16:42] <ThinkingofPython> Hmm, how low profile? Like PS2 style
[16:42] <ThinkingofPython> or are you really wanting something like a PSP one?
[16:42] <ThinkingofPython> You *could* use a nub
[16:42] <ThinkingofPython> like on the newer 3ds
[16:42] <ThinkingofPython> but it all depends on how sensitive, accurate and size you want
[16:42] <NedScott> I'm modding a gameboy DSi XL case for a Pi 2
[16:43] <NedScott> so whatever will fit in there, lol
[16:43] <ThinkingofPython> Hmm
[16:43] <NedScott> maybe in the space where the bottom screen sits
[16:43] <ThinkingofPython> A nub would for sure
[16:43] <ThinkingofPython> or yeah, a psp analog (or the same style of analog joystick thats on the 3ds)
[16:43] <ThinkingofPython> The old 3ds has a similar but more comfortable joystick
[16:44] <ThinkingofPython> the new one has that and a nub (like a small rubber dot for control)
[16:44] <ThinkingofPython> both would work for what you're doing
[16:44] <NedScott> I also wondered about trying two thinkpad nipples :D
[16:44] <ThinkingofPython> Yeah, those are nubs.
[16:44] <ThinkingofPython> :)
[16:45] <ThinkingofPython> I would suggest the 3ds analog over the psp one
[16:45] <ThinkingofPython> the psp one isn't too comfortable
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[16:46] <NedScott> awesome, that's the kind of thing I was looking to hear about
[16:46] <NedScott> thanks
[16:47] <ThinkingofPython> No worries man :)
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[16:47] <ThinkingofPython> I suggest the 3ds one over the psp one, only because it's concaved
[16:47] <ThinkingofPython> so your thumb will fit right into it
[16:47] <ThinkingofPython> and it's rubber ontop, rather than plastic
[16:47] <ThinkingofPython> But a nub/nipple(lolololll) will also work (but isn't as comfortable for good for longtime use. They get chewed up easily)
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[16:49] <SpeedEvil> you can buy many nipples for a pound
[16:51] <t3chguy> out of interest, who here has access to a laser cutter?
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[16:51] <SpeedEvil> That depends how you define access
[16:52] <SpeedEvil> I have CO2, and a suitable tube that might work.
[16:52] <SpeedEvil> Also a 2W blue LED
[16:52] <SpeedEvil> ^LASER diode
[16:53] <t3chguy> lol
[16:53] <t3chguy> I meant more of a commercial/hobbyist rather than handheld/makeshift
[16:53] <ThinkingofPython> heh
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[16:54] <SpeedEvil> There are many cutting services that'll do small things and pop them in the post
[16:54] <t3chguy> not cheap though :/
[16:54] <ThinkingofPython> If you want 3d printing, that's do-able by post as well
[16:54] <ThinkingofPython> What're you trying to achieve?
[16:54] <t3chguy> £15+VAT/TAX for two layers of a PiBow
[16:54] <t3chguy> well, not actually a PiBow
[16:54] <t3chguy> since its just rectangles with no holes
[16:54] <t3chguy> holes are extra
[16:54] <t3chguy> so I'd be looking at £30+
[16:54] <t3chguy> whereas the whole PiBow is £7
[16:55] <ThinkingofPython> Expensive. Have you tried reddit?
[16:55] <ThinkingofPython> There's some subreddits for this type of thing
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[16:55] <t3chguy> ThinkingofPython: where do you suggest I search p_P
[16:55] <ThinkingofPython> you may find someone that could do it cheap
[16:55] <ThinkingofPython> lol
[16:55] <t3chguy> all I want is a Damn PiBow with Heatsink holes xD
[16:55] <ThinkingofPython> I know the 3d printing subreddit has a section where people can ask for something printed
[16:55] <ThinkingofPython> and get it done for real cheap
[16:55] <ThinkingofPython> so there may be one for cutting. Check /r/DIY
[16:55] <t3chguy> or I could buy http://wickedaluminum.com/products/pi-holder-bplus-case?variant=1107183964
[16:56] <t3chguy> but thats £60 with Post :/
[16:56] * shiftplusone gives t3chguy a dremel and hopes it's the right type of acrylic for cutting without melting.
[16:56] <ThinkingofPython> there's some home improvement subreddits too
[16:56] <t3chguy> shiftplusone: dremel cuts look shite
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[16:56] <shiftplusone> could clean them up
[16:56] <ThinkingofPython> dremel + file + sanding
[16:56] <ThinkingofPython> = woop woop looks good
[16:56] <shiftplusone> or go to a hacker space and use the laser cutter
[16:56] <ThinkingofPython> large grit, then small grit
[16:56] <ThinkingofPython> that too
[16:57] <t3chguy> shiftplusone: closest hackerspace is 2 hours away and charge £30 a month for membership
[16:57] <ThinkingofPython> t3chguy reddit.
[16:57] <ThinkingofPython> You could probably have one done for cheap
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[16:57] <ThinkingofPython> or free + shipping
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[16:57] <Encrypt> t3chguy, Eh eh :p
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[16:57] <Encrypt> That's a nice case indeed
[16:57] <t3chguy> Encrypt: tis but pricy as fuck
[16:57] <Encrypt> Yep
[16:58] <t3chguy> includes heat pipes for all 3 of the Pi 2's ICs though which is very cool
[16:58] <Encrypt> t3chguy, I have the model B one
[16:58] <t3chguy> neat
[16:58] <Encrypt> All 3? (<.<)
[16:58] <ThinkingofPython> t3chguy Hmmm, I could check China.
[16:58] <Encrypt> You mean two, right?
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[16:58] <ThinkingofPython> I live in China, this type of thing here is usually a dime a dozen
[16:58] <t3chguy> Encrypt: the Pi 2 has 3 large heat generating ICs
[16:58] <t3chguy> 2 on the top and RAM on the bottom
[16:58] <Encrypt> Ah
[16:58] <shiftplusone> t3chguy: tone down the language a bit. family friendly channel and all that.
[16:58] <Encrypt> The RAM chip, right
[16:59] <t3chguy> ah yes, forgot
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[16:59] <ThinkingofPython> t3chguy Check made-in-china and globalsources.com
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[16:59] <Encrypt> t3chguy, But the heatsink is not perfectly aligned with the CPU of the Pi 2
[16:59] <ThinkingofPython> I work part time for an aluminum exporter
[17:00] <t3chguy> Encrypt: thats sucky
[17:00] <ThinkingofPython> they do cutting and such. I could ask if you want?
[17:00] <Encrypt> t3chguy, There is also the FLIRC case which is a nice case
[17:00] <Encrypt> But it only cools the CPU
[17:00] <t3chguy> Encrypt: I saw that but the heat spreader is hollow
[17:00] <t3chguy> it'll barely pull any of the heat out
[17:00] <t3chguy> I guess I could put a cooled liquid into the air-space lol
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[17:01] <Encrypt> :D
[17:01] <biberao> hi
[17:01] <Encrypt> t3chguy, Why not oil-cool your Pi? :P
[17:01] <biberao> anyone using openelec or kodi?
[17:01] <t3chguy> I'm currently using a dremelled foundation case
[17:01] <t3chguy> lol Encrypt
[17:01] <t3chguy> I want to access the GPIO and use HATs
[17:01] <Encrypt> Well
[17:01] <Encrypt> With gloves, that would be easy :>
[17:01] <t3chguy> lol
[17:01] <ThinkingofPython> just use a cardboard box
[17:02] <Encrypt> ThinkingofPython, Not hipster enough
[17:02] <biberao> like im asking because
[17:02] <ThinkingofPython> lolol
[17:02] <ThinkingofPython> beer box
[17:02] <ThinkingofPython> :D
[17:02] <t3chguy> nah, might see if my College has a Laser Cutter I'll be able to use when summer ends
[17:02] <t3chguy> then I could just buy a PiBow Coupé and laser out bits of it
[17:02] <biberao> with openelec seems to be possible to have an openelec access point
[17:02] <biberao> cant i do the same with kodi?
[17:02] <biberao> on openelec doesnt work properly with my wifi card
[17:03] <Encrypt> That's fun to see that the english languages has included french words... such as "coupé" :D
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[17:03] <Encrypt> language*
[17:03] <ThinkingofPython> resume
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[17:04] <ThinkingofPython> < Speaks English, French and Cantonese
[17:04] <ThinkingofPython> yay canada
[17:04] <Encrypt> :D
[17:04] <SyncYourDogmas> France invaded, last people to in the UK I think
[17:04] <ThinkingofPython> well, Quebecois Francais :P
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[17:58] <t3chguy> oooh
[17:58] <t3chguy> razorlab.co.uk seems not bad
[17:59] <t3chguy> looks like £5 for two basic pieces of acrylic
[17:59] <t3chguy> no idea how much they charge for delivery though
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[18:58] <Abyx> Anyone have suggestions for best browser to run for javascript intensive pages?
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[19:00] <amiiboh> Abyx, I've seen big performance increases with Ghostery installed to block a lot of the totally unnecessary crap
[19:00] <amiiboh> On any browser.
[19:00] <Davespice> Check this out everyone: https://twitter.com/astro_pi/status/630765399492173824 (Astro Pi in the columbus mockup module being tested)
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[19:02] <TheLostAdmin> what is the astro pi?
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[19:02] <Abyx> amiiboh, that would only be useful if i'm browsing pages that have ads right? Right now I only want to render my own pages (that have no ads)... it's just a javascript intensive page so it tends to come to a crawl during the rendering process
[19:02] <amiiboh> Ahh, I gotcha. I thought you meant on things that were loaded up with tracking cookies, Disqus, share buttons, etc. etc.
[19:03] <TheLostAdmin> if your own page renders slowly due to excessive javascript, it might be time to rethink the javascript.
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[19:05] <shiftplusone> TheLostAdmin: a few pis with science experiments written by kids going onto the ISS.
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[19:05] <shiftplusone> (based around the Sense HAT)
[19:06] <TheLostAdmin> thanks
[19:07] <shiftplusone> np
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[19:09] <TheLostAdmin> Oh (found the Pi foundation page about it). cool. I'm not sure I understand the value of the 8x8 LED display.
[19:09] <Davespice> TheLostAdmin: google is your friend :) basically Pis on the International Space Station
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[19:09] <Davespice> that pic is from a Columbus mock up module in Germany where they are testing the on orbit procedures
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[19:10] <t3chguy> TheLostAdmin: its to entertain the Astronauts (DUH)
[19:11] <TheLostAdmin> Does it work with any of the LCD screens you can get for the Pi?
[19:11] <t3chguy> LED and LCD Screens work rather differently
[19:11] <t3chguy> also there are different types of LED matrices
[19:11] <TheLostAdmin> I suddenly feel the need to channel my inner geek and make my own star-trek-esque tricorder with one of those thing.
[19:11] <t3chguy> NoePixel ones are very different to traditional RGB
[19:12] <t3chguy> TheLostAdmin: shop.pimoroni.com/products/unicorn-hat
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[19:13] <TheLostAdmin> I mean more like the sense hat and a PiTFT from adafruit with a battery to make a portable science-thing.
[19:14] <t3chguy> wouldn't be as blindgly bright as the Unicorn
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[19:14] <t3chguy> I've had to permanently attach a light diffuser to it to prevent blindness when testing people's scripts that I haven't looked over to fit a brightness control into
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[19:18] <faLUCE> hello.with model b I have a speed of 4MB/s for read and write on an external fat32 usb drive. is this correct or is it too low?
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[19:33] <floris> check on another PC
[19:35] <faLUCE> floris: and then? what if the speed on another pc is faster?
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[19:36] <t3chguy> give it its own power supply
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[19:36] <t3chguy> overclock your pi
[19:36] <t3chguy> get a pi2
[19:36] <t3chguy> any/all of the above
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[19:43] <faLUCE> t3chguy: it has its own power supply. what if I overclock the pi? how much faster could it run usb?
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[19:44] <t3chguy> the USB Chip itself is dedicated, but the CPU might be busy doing other stuff when it could have more cycles to send data
[19:45] <faLUCE> t3chguy: how much faster can the overclock improve usb r/w ?
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[19:45] <shiftplusone> on a pi 2, not at all.
[19:45] <shiftplusone> well, maybe it would, I doubt it, but it wouldn't have anything to do with USB speed itself.
[19:46] <faLUCE> shiftplusone: then, there are not other solutions? I am forced to have 4MB/s ?
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[19:46] <shiftplusone> I am sure I am getting better speeds than that
[19:46] <shiftplusone> let me check
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[19:48] <faLUCE> shiftplusone: thanks
[19:48] <shiftplusone> http://pastebin.com/F7GK3aaV
[19:49] <shiftplusone> 22.6 write
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[19:49] <faLUCE> shiftplusone: where can be the issue? my usb hd is self powered
[19:49] <faLUCE> shiftplusone: it is FAT 32
[19:50] <shiftplusone> I don't know, what do you get when you use the same sort of command I used?
[19:50] <shiftplusone> 25.2 read
[19:50] <floris> filesystem isn't the problem
[19:50] <floris> USB 1 ? 2 ? 3 ? technology ? model ? conception ?
[19:51] <faLUCE> shiftplusone: wait
[19:51] <shiftplusone> using random instead of zero and it seems to be taking much longer
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[19:52] <faLUCE> floris: 5.6MB/S
[19:53] <faLUCE> shiftplusone: how can I check that params?
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[19:53] <shiftplusone> I think you have your people mixed up
[19:54] <t3chguy> lol
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[19:55] <faLUCE> shiftplusone: I mean, how can I check if it is usb 1 or 2 ?
[19:55] <shiftplusone> check how it enumarates... lsusb -v, I guess.
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[19:56] <shiftplusone> But you should be asking the guy who suggested it
[19:56] <shiftplusone> For what it's worth, I am using a USB2 self powered WD external drive
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[19:58] <shiftplusone> If I repeat the test with urandom, I am only testing how fast a single core can generate random data, so it's pinned to 100% and I am only getting a few MB out per second.
[19:58] <shiftplusone> so zero should be good enough to measure the actual IO speed without other complications
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[20:01] <faLUCE> shiftplusone: http://pastebin.com/RE6fLcTU
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[20:02] <shiftplusone> I am sure some of that means something
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[20:03] <shiftplusone> looks like usb 2.0 to me
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[20:04] <shiftplusone> and looks similar to what I am getting, except mine is WD and yours is some random thing. Was it $5 on ebay? That could be a part of it
[20:05] <shiftplusone> you could use top to check if there are any procs/threads eating up CPU time when you do the speed test
[20:05] <t3chguy> could be lack of drivers for the USB->Sata/IDE thing thats on the other end of the wire
[20:06] * ThinkingofPython gives channel operator status to shiftplusone
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[20:07] * ChanServ sets mode +o shiftplusone
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[20:07] <shiftplusone> fixed that for you ;)
[20:07] <ThinkingofPython> hahah
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[20:07] <ThinkingofPython> ooo you're an OP?
[20:07] <ThinkingofPython> ;)
[20:08] <shiftplusone> Everyone he is an op if they know the command to enter
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[20:08] <shiftplusone> *here
[20:08] <ThinkingofPython> lol
[20:08] <ThinkingofPython> :o
[20:08] <t3chguy> xD
[20:08] <ThinkingofPython> !up
[20:08] <giddles> really? :D
[20:08] <ThinkingofPython> lol
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[20:08] * shiftplusone wonders how many people are trying to get OP now.
[20:08] <shiftplusone> (no, not really)
[20:08] <ThinkingofPython> !flags
[20:09] <giddles> [20:08:47] -ChanServ- You are not authorized to (de)op giddles on #raspberrypi.
[20:09] <t3chguy> trying to stress my Pi out a little
[20:09] <giddles> :(
[20:10] <shiftplusone> t3chguy: tell it you want to put a heatsink on it.
[20:10] <giddles> well fuck that heatsinks
[20:10] <t3chguy> shiftplusone: it already has two xD
[20:10] <giddles> pardon for my not family friendly language
[20:10] <shiftplusone> giddles: >=/ language, sir.
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[20:10] <giddles> but its true
[20:10] <giddles> this cheap rpi heatsinks contact metalls
[20:11] <t3chguy> I'm actually comparing out of case temp to in foundation case temp
[20:11] <giddles> that made me freakout
[20:11] <shiftplusone> t3chguy: then you've crushed it's spirit and it won't get stressed by anything.
[20:11] <t3chguy> shiftplusone: lol
[20:11] <giddles> i dont like to saw alu..
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[20:12] <giddles> cancer risk... i have no fabric with aircontrolunit..
[20:13] <giddles> so rpi officials
[20:13] <giddles> when did soc with sata and usb 3.0 is comming?
[20:13] <giddles> i buyed 8 rpis :P
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[20:16] <t3chguy> stressing out my CPU Cores on Pi seems to have brought me up to 55C out in the air with small copper heatsinks
[20:17] <t3chguy> CPU heatsink is very uncomfortable to the touch
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[20:19] <shiftplusone> giddles: you forgot to threaten to buy banana pis, tell us how you hate us that you wasted 10 years of your life on the pi and that it's absolutely useless without open source firmware.
[20:19] <t3chguy> Banananana Pi has USB3?
[20:20] <ThinkingofPython> thats true
[20:20] <ThinkingofPython> ya bananapi and orangepi are much better
[20:20] <ThinkingofPython> much much better
[20:20] <shiftplusone> I am sure there's some rpi copy with USB3.0
[20:20] <t3chguy> ThinkingofPython: the community isn't though
[20:20] <ThinkingofPython> they have like no community, it's so cool that theres like no community
[20:20] <ThinkingofPython> it makes my projects standout more
[20:20] <t3chguy> Bannana dual core 1GHz, 1GB Ram, SATA, , GigE
[20:20] <ThinkingofPython> love it!!!!
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[20:20] <t3chguy> I think Imma buy an Odroid C1
[20:20] <ThinkingofPython> shiftplusone Any reason why the Pi doesnt fight back against these clones?
[20:20] <ThinkingofPython> Whether it be legal action, or more buffed specs (like SATA and such)
[20:21] <ThinkingofPython> or because the Pi2 is already so sexy ;)
[20:21] <shiftplusone> ThinkingofPython: they all miss the point of what makes the pi special. It was certainly never the specs.
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[20:22] <t3chguy> the Odroid C1 looks so much like the Pi
[20:22] <t3chguy> its weird
[20:22] <ThinkingofPython> Ah good point :)
[20:22] <ThinkingofPython> That's true
[20:22] <ThinkingofPython> The community, the open-ness, the non-profit charity, etc make the Pi better :D
[20:22] <ThinkingofPython> It just sucks that nothing legal can be done
[20:22] <shiftplusone> well, I don't know about open-ness
[20:22] <ThinkingofPython> I thought "namePi" was copyrighted
[20:22] <t3chguy> ThinkingofPython: I think its a good thing that more than just Pi exist
[20:22] <t3chguy> like Arduino
[20:23] <ThinkingofPython> so they couldnt use pi, just like companies cant use 'i-device'
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[20:23] <shiftplusone> closed firmware, limited schematics and so on... some people have problems with that.
[20:23] <t3chguy> Arduino thrives on the idea, the software and the community
[20:23] <ThinkingofPython> same t3ch, but I dont like how they copy the name
[20:23] <t3chguy> the clones do things better and cheaper
[20:23] <ThinkingofPython> RaspberryPi
[20:23] <ThinkingofPython> OrangePi
[20:23] <ThinkingofPython> BananaPi
[20:23] <t3chguy> Lemon Pie
[20:23] <t3chguy> nom
[20:23] <ThinkingofPython> It sucks that they can just steal the name like that D:
[20:23] <t3chguy> idek
[20:24] <t3chguy> ThinkingofPython: think of how much money the foundation could lose if the court wasn't to go in their favour
[20:24] <ThinkingofPython> Yeah, that's true
[20:24] <ThinkingofPython> I was considering this :P
[20:24] <ThinkingofPython> It just sucks D:
[20:24] <t3chguy> my Foundation case has made a 2C difference on fully stressed temps
[20:24] <t3chguy> wonder how much removing the heatsinks and fitting it into a PiBow coupe will do :/
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[20:35] <biberao> elinux.org says RTL8188CUS doesnt support nl80211
[20:35] <biberao> but i tried on another box and it works fine
[20:35] <biberao> not on rpi though
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[20:38] <biberao> weird stuff
[20:41] <Kamilion> shiftplusone / ThinkingofPython : I would honestly start rabble-rousing if the foundation suddenly started throwing sueballs all over, and probably try to convince people to take their business elsewhere. Like if Arduino.cc started flipping out about their 'pinout' being propritary. That would put a big ol' DO NOT WANT stamp in red ink on it. :)
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[20:44] <Kamilion> one of the reasons the pi has a such a wonderful community is because it's generally inclusive, not exclusive. "How do i get my arduino working with pi" ends up resulting in "here's how to do it with the pi GPIO and here's how to do it over Wiring" instead of "ask somewhere else"
[20:44] <biberao> Kamilion: help me
[20:44] <Kamilion> biberao: with what?
[20:45] <biberao> why on x86 for the same wifi card nl80211 works and on Pi doesnt
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[20:46] <Kamilion> uh, as far as I know, the pi only supports USB devices. Is it some kind of SDIO card? Or am I just mistaking your general language for actual specifics?
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[20:47] <Kamilion> do you have the netlink configuration support enabled in the kernel menuconfig?
[20:47] <Kamilion> do you have libnl around, and it's dev package?
[20:48] <t3chguy> lol with a giant PC fan pointed out my Pi my temps dropped 12C
[20:49] <biberao> Kamilion: its an usb dongle
[20:49] <biberao> im not sure if its enabled on kernel
[20:49] <biberao> the sdcard is tiny
[20:49] <biberao> 2gb
[20:49] <biberao> so i chose crippled raspbian
[20:50] <Kamilion> t3chguy: if you REALLY have a need to cool your PI, you can use 3M scotchweld to coat the entire bottom of the PCB and fit it to a much larger extruded aluminium heatsink.
[20:50] <t3chguy> Kamilion: I'm actually just messing around with it
[20:50] <t3chguy> and stress testing all 4 cores
[20:50] <Kamilion> oh, pi2
[20:50] <t3chguy> yeah
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[20:50] <Kamilion> yeah, i wouldn't do that to a pi2, due to the DDR3 on the bottom
[20:50] <t3chguy> why?
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[20:51] <t3chguy> oh wairt
[20:51] <t3chguy> wait*
[20:51] <t3chguy> Scotchweld is more of a resin?
[20:51] <Kamilion> well, on the original pi board, the memory was mounted package-on-package on top of the CPU core. Most of the heat sinking will be done through the ball grid array to the PCB
[20:51] <t3chguy> plastic adhesive
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[20:51] <Kamilion> so there wasn't anything much on the bottom of the board
[20:52] <t3chguy> Kamilion: I have a large tube of Arctic Silver Ceramique 2
[20:52] <t3chguy> I could coat the whole bottom in that :P
[20:52] <t3chguy> no conductivity
[20:52] <Kamilion> that's just thermal compound, right? not thermal adhesive?>
[20:52] <t3chguy> and great thermal performance
[20:52] <t3chguy> well it is just compound but it has some ceramic properties
[20:52] <Kamilion> thermal adhesive will be a permanant bond
[20:52] <t3chguy> where the outside of it hardens
[20:52] <t3chguy> its hard to pry a heatsink off a CPU with it on
[20:53] <t3chguy> but not impossible
[20:53] <Kamilion> thermal compound will still be seperable if you spritz it with something like citric acid
[20:53] <t3chguy> sure yeah
[20:53] <t3chguy> I'm just saying, it'd work well
[20:53] <t3chguy> especially since removing it would be a feature xD
[20:53] <Kamilion> so yeah, that'd be pretty good.
[20:53] <t3chguy> I could stick my H80 closed loop cooler on it xD
[20:53] <Kamilion> especally if you screwed the board down
[20:54] <Kamilion> but yeah, honestly though, it's not really possible for the pi's on-PCB circuits to run at more than 10 watts of thermal dissipation
[20:54] <t3chguy> its funny seeing my Unicorn HAT Demo program struggle while stress -c 4 is running
[20:54] <Kamilion> that's about as much as you can get out of a fast-charge USB port
[20:55] <t3chguy> Kamilion: considering my Pi isn't even pulling more than an AMP xD
[20:55] <t3chguy> 5W total power usage, so a little less than that dissipated
[20:55] <Kamilion> on it's own, without USB devices, it's under half an amp
[20:55] <t3chguy> I have a Unicorn HAT sat on it though
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[20:55] <Kamilion> otherwise you wouldn't be able to fire it up from an average 500ma fused USB port
[20:55] <t3chguy> those neopixels can take 60mA each and there's 64 of them :P
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[20:56] <shiftplusone> Kamilion: I am sure the negative image of suing people was a part of it, but that obviously doesn't concern engineers, so I know nothing about why there were no lawsuits thrown around.
[20:56] <t3chguy> obviously not all running at full brightness
[20:57] <ThinkingofPython> shiftplusone You make a very good point.
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[20:57] <ThinkingofPython> :)
[20:57] <Kamilion> shiftplusone: Almost all of the publicity has been positive, save for a small minority.
[20:57] <Kamilion> especally bringing RiscOS back.
[20:58] <Kamilion> that got a very nice buzz going on between my acquintances that enjoy classic computing
[20:58] <shiftplusone> heh, cool.
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[20:58] <Kamilion> also, the fact that retropie users are greeted nicely here and sent on their way with proper info insteas of "emulation's illegal *crossed arms* >:O "
[20:59] <shiftplusone> the RiscOS guys are wizards. They optimized memory copy routines to be about 10x faster by using carefully crafted asm.
[20:59] * Kamilion remembers lots of communities like that, before Steam started selling Sega Classics Collection and the Wii Virtual Console
[20:59] <Kamilion> but there's not many weirdos like me that keep old arcade PCBs around
[21:00] <shiftplusone> Well, I don't know about emulation being illegal, but if I saw somebody linking to ROMs, I'd have to ask them to stop.
[21:00] <Kamilion> emulation isn't illegal
[21:00] <Kamilion> but that was one of those excuses communities used to use before it became common to do
[21:00] <shiftplusone> of course not... Sega might like it to be, but no thank you
[21:00] <Kamilion> nah, they got over that
[21:00] <shiftplusone> ah okay
[21:00] <Kamilion> and it was sony
[21:00] <Kamilion> sony vs bleem! inc
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[21:01] <Kamilion> nee Connectix (y'know, the people who used to make webcams before logitech took that market over)
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[21:01] * Kamilion still proudly has his Bleem! psx emulator key-cd
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[21:01] <Kamilion> even though you havn't actually been able to download the software in ~17 years
[21:03] <Kamilion> I've actually been dealing with emulation for a loooooooooooooong time. All the way back to the PC Ditto II 8086 simulator for m68k ataris, and VSMC, the first working super nintendo emulator that could play Super Mario World.
[21:04] <ThinkingofPython> shiftplusone I could link you to my Gameboy roms
[21:04] <Kamilion> Never got the itch to write one myself though
[21:04] <ThinkingofPython> because they're games I've made myself ;)
[21:04] <t3chguy> hmm
[21:04] <t3chguy> I might seal a PiBow and fill it with mineral oil
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[21:04] <Kamilion> there's actually a very large number of homebrew roms for various game consoles.
[21:04] <shiftplusone> .... O_O
[21:04] <ThinkingofPython> Kamilion: I make gameboy games, and I dump cartridges (I take retail cartridges, and convert them to .roms)
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[21:05] <ThinkingofPython> So I have a library of games that I've made for Gameboy, and a library of games that I've dumped/created roms from the cart
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[21:05] <Kamilion> ThinkingofPython: yeah, I used to make cartridge dumpers as well, started with the original gameboy too.
[21:05] <ThinkingofPython> chances are, you've played one of my roms ;)
[21:05] <ThinkingofPython> Nice.
[21:05] <nid0> I don't get the fascination with cooling pis
[21:05] <ThinkingofPython> I'll link my gameboy game site because it's all original work, no illegal stuff
[21:05] <ThinkingofPython> www.booyadev.com
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[21:05] <Kamilion> ah yeah, I definitely know who you are.
[21:05] <ThinkingofPython> I use GBDK - ASM + ANSI C
[21:05] <TheLostAdmin> nid0, my theory is they are trying to get the Pi to run at 4 Ghz.
[21:05] <ThinkingofPython> Kamilion xD How so?
[21:06] <Kamilion> I know someone who uses your diagnostics .gb
[21:06] <ThinkingofPython> Ah, you're probably mistaking it with the Official diagnostics cart
[21:06] <ThinkingofPython> Mine isn't out yet
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[21:06] <Kamilion> hm, maybe so then
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[21:06] <ThinkingofPython> But anyone who has ever downloaded and played a rom on an emulator of Metroid, Super Mario Bros, etc
[21:07] <ThinkingofPython> has probably played my dump
[21:07] <ThinkingofPython> :D
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[21:07] <Kamilion> tosec's [!] ?
[21:07] <ThinkingofPython> Not gonna say, nyah nyah nyah
[21:07] * ThinkingofPython flies around
[21:08] <Kamilion> so that's an implicit yes then. Tosec's just a list, it's other people on the darkwebs who make TOSEC collections.
[21:08] <ThinkingofPython> lol
[21:08] <ThinkingofPython> I'll just say that my name here is not the name I used for that portion of life
[21:08] <Kamilion> besides, most things nintendo has made have checksums
[21:08] <ThinkingofPython> But I've been in the "game" for a longgg time
[21:08] <ThinkingofPython> But t3chguy whyyyy
[21:08] <ThinkingofPython> Whyy mineral oil cooled :P
[21:09] <ThinkingofPython> Wont it get all mucky after a while?
[21:09] <t3chguy> ThinkingofPython: noooo not cooled
[21:09] <t3chguy> there'd be no pump
[21:09] <t3chguy> or anything
[21:09] <Kamilion> know whatcha mean. I used to deal with psx modding for homebrew.
[21:09] <t3chguy> it'd be more of an aquarium
[21:09] <ThinkingofPython> yeah, just sealed in it
[21:09] <t3chguy> of pi
[21:09] <ThinkingofPython> wont it get mucky after a year or something?
[21:09] <ThinkingofPython> and need a good cleaning
[21:09] <Kamilion> unlikely
[21:09] <t3chguy> if its completely sealed and the board aint s**t quality, no
[21:09] <ThinkingofPython> kamilion I miss my NET Yaroze
[21:09] <Kamilion> bingo
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[21:10] <Kamilion> I never had a yaroze, but I did hack my SCPH-1001 to run the yaroze binaries.
[21:10] <ThinkingofPython> nice
[21:10] <Kamilion> using the pro action replay 3 cartridge
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[21:10] <Kamilion> me and a friend built a tool able to reflash it, and it was directly on the main CPU's bus
[21:10] <ThinkingofPython> I still enjoy my N64 + N64DD
[21:10] <ThinkingofPython> and my PS2 TOOL :D
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[21:11] <Kamilion> most of the other expansion cartridges had a 25 pin parallel bus connector on the back, to be connected to a special ISA card
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[21:11] <Kamilion> this one was set up to be connected to an LPT printer port, specifically. So in comparison, it was a joy to play with
[21:12] <ThinkingofPython> Kamilion You'd fit in well over at EFnet's #gbdev, #n64dev, #nesdev, I think there is a psdev as well
[21:12] <Kamilion> plus we eventually got a whole debugger working to dump the ram state and look at it
[21:12] <Kamilion> eh, I don't honestly have the time for that sort of thing anymore
[21:12] <ThinkingofPython> Currently, I'm working on the iQue Player, as you can see on my site xD
[21:12] <Kamilion> I <3 it
[21:12] <ThinkingofPython> ooo youre missing out heh
[21:12] <Kamilion> but I'm too busy dealing with python
[21:13] <ThinkingofPython> mm python
[21:13] <ThinkingofPython> hence my name
[21:13] <Kamilion> now -- if you'd spend a little time wrapping micropython to run...
[21:13] <Kamilion> that MIGHT spur my interest *laughs*
[21:13] <ThinkingofPython> xD
[21:13] <Kamilion> honestly, it's probably not hard
[21:13] <Kamilion> they got it to work on the esp8266 very quickly
[21:14] <Kamilion> i don't think it'd work on the classic z80, and the Advance didn't have very much in the way of SRAM
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[21:14] <Kamilion> so it does seem like kind of a pipedream, or at the very least 'why bother'
[21:14] <Kamilion> but I've always loved the Advance's ext-port bootup feature
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[21:16] <ThinkingofPython> mmm the z80
[21:16] <ThinkingofPython> such a nice CPU
[21:16] <ThinkingofPython> asm for it is a breeze
[21:16] <ThinkingofPython> there is gbunix ;)
[21:16] <Kamilion> oh yeah, I've got the source code to the gamecube starfox game demo around here somewhere
[21:16] <Kamilion> can't share it, obviously
[21:16] <ThinkingofPython> nice
[21:17] <Kamilion> but I can definitely say that all of the official n64 tools are 'out there'
[21:17] <ThinkingofPython> I have Chrono Trigger Resurrection Source code
[21:17] <Kamilion> a friend of mine's dad worked on that starfox demo
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[21:17] <Kamilion> I ended up inheriting a box of stuff from my friend with a bunch of CDRs with some amazing stuff like that :D
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[21:29] <Kamilion> biberao: http://blog.sip2serve.com/post/48420162196/howto-setup-rtl8188cus-on-rpi-as-an-access-point seems like that USB device has been used with nl since 2013
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[21:37] <faLUCE> could it be that the usb speed is slower for an external SATA hd connected to raspberry through a sata to usb interface?
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[21:42] <t3chguy> faLUCE: sure, if you are missing drivers for the chip that interfaces SATA to USB
[21:42] <biberao> Kamilion: im buying a remote
[21:43] <faLUCE> t3chguy: how can I check drivers? by id provided by lsusb?
[21:43] <Kamilion> t3chguy: USB Mass Storage is a class interface, there's no drivers
[21:43] <Kamilion> faLUCE: You might see increased speeds if your SATA to USB bridge supports UAS (USB Attached SCSI)
[21:43] <Kamilion> er
[21:43] <faLUCE> Kamilion: how can I check?
[21:44] <Kamilion> t3chguy: USB Mass Storage is a class interface, there's no individual drivers
[21:44] <Kamilion> faLUCE: well, is it USB 2.0?
[21:44] <t3chguy> Kamilion: I didn't assume it was USB Mass Storage
[21:44] <t3chguy> I give it the benefit of the doubt
[21:44] <faLUCE> Kamilion: yes, usb 2.0
[21:44] <Kamilion> faLUCE: you're maxxing the bus interface.
[21:45] <Kamilion> you will never see performance above 21MB/sec over USB 2.0
[21:45] <faLUCE> Kamilion: ?
[21:45] <Kamilion> use USB3.0 or eSATA
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[21:45] <faLUCE> Kamilion: it would be good if it is more than 6MB
[21:45] <faLUCE> 6MB/S
[21:46] <Kamilion> that's generally going to be the fault of the drive you're using -- what's gnome-disk-tool's benchmarks say about it's performance?
[21:46] <faLUCE> now it is 6MB/sec.... is there a way to improve that?
[21:46] <Kamilion> depends on if it's due to latency and random access
[21:46] <Kamilion> or bad sectors and retries
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[21:47] <faLUCE> Kamilion: I have to install that util. I checked with dd and it says 6MB
[21:47] <Kamilion> ...
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[21:47] <biberao> Kamilion: the link you gave me
[21:47] <Kamilion> did you set a block size or leave it at the default sector size of 512 bytes per transfer?
[21:47] <biberao> says it doesnt support nl*
[21:47] <Kamilion> use dc3dd instead
[21:47] <faLUCE> Kamilion: on another pc its speed is good
[21:47] <Kamilion> it'll automatically detect a proper block size instead of defaulting to a single classic sector
[21:48] <Kamilion> or pass the blocksize=1M flag to DD
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[21:49] <Kamilion> such as dd if=/dev/sdc2 bs=1M, if you don't have dc3dd
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[21:49] <faLUCE> Kamilion: 6MB/sec
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[21:50] <Kamilion> faLUCE: rasbian?
[21:50] <faLUCE> Kamilion: yes. jessie
[21:50] <Kamilion> hm, not sure if that has udisks2 or not
[21:50] <Kamilion> try 'udisksctl status'
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[21:51] <Kamilion> did it print a short list of all attached disks?
[21:52] <faLUCE> Kamilion: Hitachi HUA722020ALA330 0200 FFFACFF0FF000000FF11C1FAF5FF7F sda
[21:52] <Kamilion> great, just what I needed. One moment.
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[21:52] <faLUCE> Kamilion: thanks
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[21:53] <Kamilion> 2TB 7200RPM SATA-II (3.0Gbit/sec) drive.
[21:53] <t3chguy> hmmmmmm
[21:53] <Kamilion> that should definitely be saturating the USB interface
[21:53] <t3chguy> Kamilion: you're bound to know, on the Pi's microSD Card, what would be a GOOD Write speed?
[21:54] <Kamilion> t3chguy: how much did you spend on your SD card?
[21:54] <t3chguy> got it as a gift
[21:54] <Kamilion> okay, brand?
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[21:55] <faLUCE> Kamilion: so, 6MB/sec is too slow for that dev
[21:55] <t3chguy> Sandisk Ultra, 64GB MicroSDXC (I) (Class 10)
[21:55] <faLUCE> where can be the issue ?
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[21:56] <Kamilion> t3chguy: that should negotiate at full SDXC 8-bit @ 50Mhz spec, so about 16-22MB/sec. I don't think the Pi can really DMA more than that at a time
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[21:56] <t3chguy> Kamilion: I'm getting 9.7MB/sec write :/
[21:56] <Kamilion> oh, write?
[21:56] <t3chguy> Yeah
[21:57] <Kamilion> 10MB/sec. It's a class 10.
[21:57] <t3chguy> heh
[21:57] <Kamilion> class 4 would be 4MB/sec
[21:57] <t3chguy> so near-full speed
[21:57] <t3chguy> didn't realise classes were the write speed
[21:57] <Kamilion> that's what the class-X designation means
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[21:57] <Kamilion> write speed in mb/sec
[21:57] <t3chguy> Kamilion: whats the best way to measure read?
[21:57] <Kamilion> UHS-1 is different
[21:57] <Kamilion> hooooooo.... that's a good question.
[21:58] <Kamilion> Honestly? gnome-disk-tool.
[21:58] <t3chguy> would that work stand-alone?
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[21:58] <t3chguy> or does it depend on the rest of the gnome crap?
[21:58] <Kamilion> depends on gtk
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[21:58] <Kamilion> http://puu.sh/jwD41/c0bcad8f9c.jpg
[21:59] <Kamilion> see that 'benchmark' option?
[21:59] <t3chguy> that is neat
[21:59] <faLUCE> Kamilion: what do you think about the issue described before?
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[22:00] <Kamilion> t3chguy: http://puu.sh/jwD9c/8dfe42f406.jpg A test in progress
[22:00] <t3chguy> neat
[22:01] <t3chguy> I hate being used to extremely powerful cloud servers
[22:01] <Kamilion> http://puu.sh/jwDd7/10e48c87cb.jpg And the resulting scatter plot -- you can see two spots where vmware esxi took 1.5 seconds to reply with data
[22:01] <t3chguy> I need to get used to a System that takes 3-4 seconds to read package lists xD
[22:01] <Kamilion> ignore the erroneus read speed
[22:01] <Kamilion> esxi hit a section that was SSD cached
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[22:02] <Kamilion> but you get the idea
[22:02] <Kamilion> that's just plain ol' lubuntu
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[22:02] <t3chguy> Kamilion: not got a gnome-disk-tool in my repos :/
[22:02] <Kamilion> er, gnome-disks-tool ?
[22:02] <t3chguy> likewise
[22:02] <Kamilion> huh.
[22:02] <t3chguy> got a gnome-disk-utility
[22:02] <Kamilion> rasbian or ubuntu-mate/pi2?
[22:02] <t3chguy> Mate
[22:02] <Kamilion> yeah, that's the one
[22:02] <Kamilion> lol
[22:02] <Kamilion> sorry
[22:03] <t3chguy> apt-cache search to the rescue :P
[22:03] <Kamilion> wajig search, for me
[22:03] <Kamilion> or in my case
[22:03] <Kamilion> wajig
[22:03] <t3chguy> what on earth is wajig
[22:03] <Kamilion> >>> search gnome-dis
[22:03] <t3chguy> only 3 missing dependencies
[22:03] <t3chguy> s/3/4/
[22:03] <Kamilion> wajig's a nice console front end for apt
[22:03] <t3chguy> ah neat, got a link handy?
[22:03] <Kamilion> if you run it with no parameters, you get a console
[22:04] <t3chguy> I sorta like apt, ubuntu's wrapper for apt-get
[22:04] <Kamilion> http://wajig.togaware.com/ <--- waaaaaaaaaaaay out of date
[22:04] <t3chguy> lol thanks
[22:04] <Kamilion> that's debian's actually
[22:04] <t3chguy> well, it still exists in Ubuntu :P
[22:04] <Kamilion> ubuntu just inherited it recently
[22:04] <Kamilion> 14.04 or 14.10
[22:04] <t3chguy> lol
[22:05] <Kamilion> but yes, it's very nice, especally the progress bars
[22:05] <t3chguy> got gnome-disks showing over X forwarding
[22:05] <Kamilion> it's the one thing I wish I could get from wajig
[22:05] <t3chguy> gonna run a test
[22:05] <t3chguy> Yeah I like those :P
[22:05] <Kamilion> but what I love about wajig?
[22:05] <Kamilion> run it as a user.
[22:05] <Kamilion> it asks you to sudo instead of throwing an error.
[22:05] <t3chguy> on all my clouds I run root everywhere
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[22:05] <t3chguy> I have to get used to not doing so on my pi haha
[22:05] <Kamilion> well, for all the other apt stuff
[22:05] <Kamilion> it's always sudo this, sudo that, ERROR YOU NEED TO SUDO TO RUN THIS, crap, i forgot...
[22:06] <t3chguy> Kamilion: what params should I feed the Benchmark settings?
[22:06] <Kamilion> wajig's just "oh, hey, I know you need to be superuser, go head and authenticate, and I'll deal with it"
[22:06] <Kamilion> uhh
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[22:06] <Kamilion> i use the defaults (but uncheck 'write test' because it'll scribble on the disk)
[22:06] <t3chguy> LOL
[22:07] <t3chguy> not authorized to perform operation
[22:07] <t3chguy> udisks-error-quark, 4
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[22:07] <Kamilion> gksudo gnome-disks
[22:07] <Kamilion> you can change the policy yourself too.
[22:08] <faLUCE> no idea of how to solve that issue? :-( . I don't understand why data are written through my sata-usb converter only at 6MB/sec
[22:09] <Kamilion> faLUCE: I'm not sure either.
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[22:09] <Kamilion> faLUCE: can you determine the chipset ID of the adapter?
[22:09] <Kamilion> lsusb can get it's vendor_id and product_id
[22:10] <Kamilion> t3chguy: /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.udisks2.policy
[22:11] <Kamilion> personally, i change 'auth_admin' to 'yes'
[22:11] <Kamilion> because I have physically secure consoles
[22:12] <Kamilion> the other settings are "auth_admin_keep" or "no"
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[22:12] <t3chguy> oh god
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[22:13] <t3chguy> pulling gksudo full screen login prompt over X forwarding was unexpected xD
[22:13] <Kamilion> auth_admin forces you to authenticate every time, auth_admin_keep will prompt you once every ~15 minutes, yes won't prompt, no will deny the action no matter what
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[22:13] <t3chguy> and worse, is unusable xD
[22:13] <Kamilion> yes, I really dislike X forwarding
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[22:14] <Kamilion> i much prefer x2go and having a rooted window: http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php
[22:14] <t3chguy> Start Benchmarking...
[22:14] <t3chguy> ffs
[22:14] <Kamilion> "what's x2go?" long story short: X Server -> Compressing proxy -> internet/lan -> Compressing proxy -> Client
[22:14] <t3chguy> error seeking to offset 2554580992 (g-io-error-quark, 13)
[22:14] <Kamilion> not just x forwarding
[22:15] <t3chguy> Kamilion: any ideas?
[22:15] <Kamilion> t3chguy: honestly? No. I've always had problems with gnome-disks in some way or another
[22:15] <Kamilion> in 13.10 it wouldn't erase disks
[22:15] <t3chguy> erm
[22:15] <Kamilion> in 14.04 it was working mostly
[22:15] <t3chguy> apparently it got a 19.2 Average read
[22:15] <t3chguy> it was the access time it failed on
[22:16] <Kamilion> [12:56:26] <Kamilion> t3chguy: that should negotiate at full SDXC 8-bit @ 50Mhz spec, so about 16-22MB/sec. I don't think the Pi can really DMA more than that at a time
[22:16] <Kamilion> so about what I said, good.
[22:16] <t3chguy> lol
[22:16] <t3chguy> weird how access time fails
[22:16] <t3chguy> now to try my USB3.0 Drive jammed into my Pi and see how it fares
[22:16] <t3chguy> SanDisk Cruzer Extreme
[22:16] <Kamilion> SD might not support that ATAPI command
[22:17] <Kamilion> it'll do 14.8MB/sec
[22:17] <t3chguy> LOL
[22:17] <t3chguy> 35.4MB Read
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[22:17] <t3chguy> 32MB Write
[22:17] <Kamilion> I use those as boot sticks for my appliances
[22:17] <Kamilion> that wasn't sustained, it was burst
[22:17] <t3chguy> Access Time failed again
[22:17] <Kamilion> and also semi-impossible
[22:17] <t3chguy> the only other thing I have on my USB Bus is Ethernet
[22:17] <Kamilion> since 35.4MB/sec exceeds the USB 2.0 480mbit bandwidth ;)
[22:18] <t3chguy> 1k samples this time
[22:18] <t3chguy> is that sustained enough Kamilion :P?
[22:18] <Kamilion> in theory that should carry 60MB/sec, but there's a large overhead for USB2.0 framing
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[22:19] <t3chguy> I wonder how fast it does on my somewhat-USB3.0 friendly PC
[22:19] <Kamilion> in excess of 70MB
[22:19] <t3chguy> got 35.2MB and 30.5MB
[22:19] <t3chguy> so it seems sustainable
[22:19] <Kamilion> i got like 157MB or something crazy like that
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[22:19] <t3chguy> Kamilion: know any great disk benchmarking tools on Windows other than just copying a 64GB Pi Image onto it?
[22:20] <Kamilion> crystaldiskmark
[22:20] <t3chguy> oh lol how could I forget about that
[22:21] <Kamilion> http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra-Low-Profile-Flash-SDCZ43-016G-G46/dp/B00LLEN5FQ/
[22:21] <Kamilion> these are the ones I use all over
[22:21] <t3chguy> I saw those, they look neat
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[22:21] <Kamilion> and the only USB 3.0 compatible drive that WILL BOOT ON USB 1.1 ONLY BOARDS
[22:21] <t3chguy> http://www.sandisk.co.uk/products/usb/drives/extreme/
[22:21] <t3chguy> I use those
[22:21] <Kamilion> this is stupidly important for old servers that use the bios to start up at USB 1.1 and then let grub/kernel take over with real full USB 2.0 speeds
[22:22] <t3chguy> theretical 245/100
[22:22] <t3chguy> theoretical*
[22:22] <Kamilion> the other good one... *sec, looking for link*
[22:23] <Kamilion> http://www.amazon.com/Patriot-Micro-sized-Flash-Drive-Housing/dp/B00C980Z2O/
[22:23] <Kamilion> these will only boot on USB 2.0 compatible BIOSes
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[22:24] <Kamilion> old dells and stuff won't see them as valid boot devices :<
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[22:24] <t3chguy> Kamilion: read 218.9
[22:25] <Kamilion> yeah, genuine sandisk never sucks unless it's rated to (eg, class 4)
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[22:25] <t3chguy> lol
[22:25] <Kamilion> and they're generally very careful with their internal microcontroller
[22:25] <Kamilion> and have support for SD specifications as well as MMC and SPI fallback
[22:25] <t3chguy> although I've had a fluke result
[22:26] <t3chguy> 218.9, 13.00, 220.2
[22:26] <Kamilion> when a lot of other manufacturers will ignore SPI compatibility or non-SDHC fallbacks
[22:26] <t3chguy> oh wait no
[22:26] <t3chguy> Crystal's order is just weird
[22:26] <t3chguy> it does sequentiels in the even rows
[22:26] <t3chguy> sequentials*
[22:27] <t3chguy> Kamilion: its exceeding the theory max write for this size
[22:28] <t3chguy> the 32GB should be 245/100, mine got 220/101 haha
[22:28] <Kamilion> fun, huh? :D
[22:28] <t3chguy> 1 whole MB!
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[22:28] <Kamilion> yeah, that's actually really common for sandisk
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[22:28] <t3chguy> oh ****
[22:28] <t3chguy> my pi seems broken
[22:28] <Kamilion> the class 4 cards will do about 5.02MB/sec I've found
[22:28] <t3chguy> my fish shell is spitting out errorrrrrrrrssss
[22:28] <Kamilion> the class 10 cards will do about 11MB/sec
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[22:28] <t3chguy> Error while searching for command /sbin/92
[22:29] <Kamilion> so I think sandisk tests them until they exceed specs by 1MB
[22:29] <t3chguy> it be borked
[22:29] <t3chguy> I hope my HDMI Hotplug is enabled
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[22:30] <Kamilion> colonel panic, meet major pain and marshall tackinbutt
[22:30] <t3chguy> Argh
[22:30] <t3chguy> no graphics output
[22:30] <t3chguy> can't spawn another ssh connection
[22:30] <t3chguy> go no USB->Serial
[22:30] <t3chguy> hmmmm
[22:30] <t3chguy> what doth I do
[22:31] <t3chguy> oh wait
[22:31] <t3chguy> HDMI just came to life
[22:31] <t3chguy> in severe low-res
[22:31] <t3chguy> like 800x600 xD
[22:31] <Kamilion> Abort, Retry, Flail? [A/R/F]?
[22:31] <t3chguy> managed to get it to power cycle
[22:31] <t3chguy> without pulling the plug
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[22:32] <Kamilion> fun with sysrq and REISUB
[22:32] <t3chguy> no HDMI output again
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[22:33] <t3chguy> even though the pi booted with HDMI plugged in
[22:33] <t3chguy> and the Monitor sees something giving SOME Signal
[22:33] <Kamilion> i had a lot of problems with different HDMI cables.
[22:33] <t3chguy> this has worked all the time in the past
[22:33] <t3chguy> aaaargh
[22:33] <t3chguy> Port 22 connection refused
[22:33] <t3chguy> looks like I blew an image xD
[22:33] <Kamilion> so far the one that's worked the best has been the "Amazon Basics HDMI High Speed With Ethernet"
[22:33] <Kamilion> doesn't like my monoprice cables for whatever reason *shrugs*
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[22:34] <Kamilion> maybe it can't drive the redmere chip, I dunno.
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[22:35] <t3chguy> hmm
[22:35] <t3chguy> any idea Kamilion on getting this image back alive?
[22:35] <Kamilion> not off the top of my head, other than persistance
[22:35] <t3chguy> okay
[22:35] <t3chguy> forcibly power cycling
[22:35] <t3chguy> I atleast have kernel output now
[22:35] <t3chguy> no Fails
[22:36] <t3chguy> all Green OKs
[22:36] <t3chguy> to be fair
[22:36] <t3chguy> i want to rebuild the card with BerryBoot
[22:36] <t3chguy> and Mate is once again alive
[22:36] <t3chguy> wtf happened xD
[22:36] <t3chguy> Fish is again operational too
[22:36] <t3chguy> What on earth xD
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[22:36] <t3chguy> its like it heard me wanting to obliterate it
[22:37] <Kamilion> heh, yeah, some silicon exhibits charactaristics like that to me too
[22:37] <t3chguy> xD
[22:37] <t3chguy> it has a soul!
[22:37] <Kamilion> i eventually track it down to bad power or bad ram
[22:37] <t3chguy> I had to plug in my very power hungry keyboard into my Pi lol
[22:38] <t3chguy> damn Logitech illuminated gaming thing xD
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[23:18] <saadq> Hey all, newbie here. I know you can use Python, C, and Scratch with the RaspberryPi, but can you use something like Node.js?
[23:18] <fluffet> yes of course :)
[23:18] <t3chguy> use it for what?
[23:18] <fluffet> I don't know about performance though
[23:18] <t3chguy> for things like GPIO, sure you'd just need to find a GPIO lib for it
[23:18] <hosler> saadq: you can do anything on pi you can do with normal computer
[23:19] <hosler> except fast stuff
[23:19] <fluffet> ^what he said
[23:19] <t3chguy> hosler: or killing someone due to the mass
[23:19] <saadq> hosler: Oh that's good to know lol
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[23:19] <saadq> okay thanks guys
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[23:19] <hosler> t3chguy: well if you spin it like a sharuken then mass*acceleration would hurt
[23:20] <t3chguy> that is a fair point
[23:20] <t3chguy> but apply that same final velocity to a desktop computer and observe the damage
[23:21] <fluffet> but rpi has better range
[23:21] <fluffet> like hosler said, you can throw it at a distance
[23:21] <hosler> just hook some sidewinders via gpio
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[23:21] <hosler> now you have killbot
[23:21] <t3chguy> lol
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[23:21] <hosler> yes the possibilites are limitless with pi
[23:22] <fluffet> yes! just attach some c4 and use a gpio for detonator
[23:22] <t3chguy> lol
[23:22] <fluffet> that makes the rpi way better
[23:22] <fluffet> just throw it as some kind of grenade
[23:22] <hosler> is 3.3v enough for c4?
[23:22] <fluffet> you can just use a remote power source ^_^
[23:22] <hosler> or is it current
[23:22] <hosler> i dunno enough about c4 explosives
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[23:23] <fluffet> well afaik you just use it to trigger a portable detonator which definitely has enough current in it to activate it
[23:23] <hosler> ok i get it now
[23:23] <fluffet> but i dunno, i don't want to make IEDs :D
[23:23] <hosler> c4 is hardly improvised
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[23:24] <hosler> c4 would be ED instead of IED
[23:24] <fluffet> valid point
[23:24] <fluffet> so saadq to answer your question, you'd have to weigh the cons and pros
[23:24] <hosler> ahaha
[23:25] <hosler> ok bye
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[23:28] <saadq> yeah got it fluffet
[23:28] <saadq> if you guys dont mind sharing, what kind of things have you done with the rpi?
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[23:29] <fluffet> I use it as my IRC client, so I can ssh in from lots of computers and it's always online :)
[23:29] <fluffet> i also use it to host my personal website, although it's not finished yet
[23:29] <fluffet> and i plan on making it a r/rutorrent seedbox for torrentleech as well
[23:30] <saadq> so you basically don't have to pay a hosting company for your website?
[23:30] <fluffet> nope, only the domain which is like $10/year
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[23:31] <fluffet> keep in mind it requires a decent connection
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[23:31] <saadq> thats pretty cool, I'd like to do something like that. I have a personal website too and it would be kind of cool to not need hosting
[23:31] <fluffet> i have 100/10 which is enough for a personal site ^^
[23:31] <fluffet> yeah
[23:31] <fluffet> with the rpi you can write it in the backend you want, most cheap hosting sites only support PHP
[23:31] <fluffet> but with the raspberry pi, it's like a server computer
[23:32] <saadq> but would the server be "strong"? not prone to crashing and stuff
[23:32] <fluffet> so my website runs flask for example
[23:32] <fluffet> well that depends on the coder :)
[23:32] <saadq> haha true
[23:32] <saadq> thanks for the info fluffet
[23:32] <fluffet> you're welcome
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[23:32] <Encrypt> saadq, Files, web, mail and printer server
[23:32] <Encrypt> saadq, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19626172/RPi.jpg
[23:33] <Encrypt> Soon more, I've just bought a RPi 2 \o/
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[23:33] <fluffet> I just bought a HDD case :D
[23:33] <fluffet> Didnt think of buying a mount station like that one
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[23:34] <Encrypt> fluffet, It's useful since there is a hub at the front
[23:34] <Encrypt> I power my Pi thanks to this hub
[23:34] <fluffet> oh
[23:34] <Encrypt> So, I only have one power adapter
[23:34] <fluffet> that's cool :)
[23:34] <Encrypt> Yep :)
[23:34] <fluffet> saadq: one tip, if your desktop is a windows computer
[23:34] <fluffet> you can install Samba server on your RPi
[23:35] <Encrypt> I'll add a GSM gateway with my new Pi
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[23:35] <Encrypt> I've just bought a 3G USB modem
[23:35] <saadq> fluffet: on a mac
[23:35] <fluffet> and the entire contents of the pi is like a networked computer, so you can edit files/whatever using your windows desktop and never booting into the RPi GUI at all
[23:35] <fluffet> oh
[23:35] <fluffet> it should still work I think ^^
[23:35] <saadq> lol ill look into it, but that sounds pretty cool
[23:35] <fluffet> it's really good; i hate using the terminal for managing my files
[23:35] <Encrypt> The GUI eats a lot of ressources
[23:35] <fluffet> yep
[23:36] <Encrypt> The Pi you've seen on the photo is a 256 MB model B one :D
[23:36] <Encrypt> Chinese edition ©
[23:36] <fluffet> Encrypt do you serve movies and stuff with it?
[23:36] <Encrypt> Nope
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[23:36] <fluffet> using Plex or something?
[23:36] <fluffet> just files?
[23:36] <Encrypt> fluffet, I sync my files on it
[23:36] <fluffet> oh
[23:36] <fluffet> like Owncloud? :P
[23:36] <saadq> Encrypt: that's a sweet setup
[23:37] <Encrypt> Also, thanks to hdparm, the hard drive spins off after 15 minutes of inactivity
[23:37] <Encrypt> So that's an "almost cold" storage
[23:37] <saadq> btw what's that spherical thing on your desk
[23:37] <Encrypt> Just a decoration :p
[23:38] <Encrypt> fluffet, Barracudadrive in fact
[23:38] <Encrypt> https://barracudadrive.com/
[23:38] <Encrypt> Owncloud is too heavy
[23:38] <fluffet> ah
[23:38] <fluffet> well I think the RPI2 can run it just fine
[23:38] <Encrypt> Yes
[23:38] <fluffet> talked to somebody here a couple of days ago that ran it
[23:38] <Encrypt> With 4x more RAM compared to my current Pi \o/
[23:39] <fluffet> don't forget more cores :p
[23:39] <Encrypt> But I'm not sure it's worth it
[23:39] <Encrypt> The less ressources I will use, the happier I will be :D
[23:39] <fluffet> why wouldn't it be? it's like $25
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[23:53] <teclo-> hi, how can I play a Adobe Flash live streaming on a Raspberry Pi ? I guess the answer is "no Adobe Flash content for arm"...
[23:53] <Kamilion> PHP & owncloud are hungry hungry. probably better to deal with ajenti instead.
[23:54] <Kamilion> teclo-: youtube-dl and vlc?
[23:54] <Kamilion> plays flv fine
[23:54] <teclo-> Kamilion: ah ?
[23:54] <teclo-> Kamilion: but I mean, something which is live and not on youtube ?
[23:54] <Kamilion> what, is it on a site youtube-dl doesn't support?
[23:55] <Kamilion> find the link to the FLV stream and connect directly then.
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[23:55] <Kamilion> Shumway might wory
[23:56] <Kamilion> gnash might as well
[23:56] <teclo-> well it's a live auction I'd like to watch on my HDMI TV
[23:56] <Kamilion> http://mozilla.github.io/shumway/
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[23:57] <Kamilion> teclo-: looks like pepper-flash might work.
[23:57] <Kamilion> http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/a/30058/28901
[23:57] <Kamilion> But it's all software decode on the CPU so you'd better have a pi2
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[23:58] <teclo-> thanks a lot Kamilion I'm writing that down and I'm gonna try that on the next auction ;)
[23:58] <Kamilion> teclo-: shumway will try to play back a .swf using html5 spec
[23:59] <Kamilion> pepper-flash is an implimentation of flash 12 or 15, it looks like.
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