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IRC Log for 2015-08-11

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[0:00] <Kamilion> http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ <--- and I have no idea if gnash does video decode and playback at all
[0:01] <SpeedEvil> It is not reliable, is often very slow
[0:01] <teclo-> well I know gnash has been there for many years, and it's slow and no very efficient
[0:01] <Kamilion> that's just Flash in general.
[0:02] <Kamilion> Flash sucks unless it can talk to hardware accelerators
[0:02] <teclo-> Kamilion: indeed :)
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[0:02] <Kamilion> but HTML5 is pretty much Flash rehashed.
[0:02] <teclo-> well Flash should not have been there, it's proprietary while HTML, CSS are standards
[0:02] <Kamilion> almost everything you could do in Flash, you can do in HTML5 with nothing but CSS and javascript.
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[0:03] <Kamilion> Can't say that -- macromedia flash fufilled a niche after shockwave player.
[0:03] <SpeedEvil> html5 happened a decade after flash
[0:03] <SpeedEvil> more?
[0:03] <Kamilion> there WAS no other competition then
[0:03] <Kamilion> more.
[0:03] <SpeedEvil> realmedia
[0:03] <Kamilion> realmedia didn't do vector motion
[0:03] <Kamilion> that was a pure raster compressor
[0:03] <SpeedEvil> no
[0:04] <SpeedEvil> I mean solely for video
[0:04] <Kamilion> ?
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[0:04] <Kamilion> oh, you mean how 99% of the remaining usages of Adobe Flash on the web are video players?
[0:04] <SpeedEvil> yes
[0:05] <SpeedEvil> Also - java - sort-of
[0:05] <Kamilion> that's just because for most desktops, flash was the easiest way to get to the hardware accelerated video card / GPU features.
[0:05] <Kamilion> we didn't have webgl or canvas.
[0:05] <SpeedEvil> yeah
[0:05] <Kamilion> http://xkcd.com/598/
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[0:06] <teclo-> heh good one Kamilion
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[0:07] <Kamilion> SpeedEvil: Actually, it's been funny, most of the java applets I run into are either generated forms (that could be done with PDF now) or KVM remote control tools
[0:07] <teclo-> you know, earlier with dial-up, there wasn't even a format for pictures... GIF started in 87
[0:07] <nid0> remote consoles are 100% of my use for java
[0:08] <Kamilion> compuserv gif. lol
[0:08] <SpeedEvil> I remember the first site of a category I can't mention showing 'video' at ~160*120 jpegs every 5 seconds.
[0:08] <Kamilion> SpeedEvil: Oh yeah? Long long ago, at Weird Stuff Warehouse, I ran across a copy of Ghost in the Shell on "Video CD" (note, not VCD)
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[0:09] <Kamilion> it sits proudly in the display case at my dad's house next to my unopened copy of CastleVania: Symphony of the Night
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[0:10] <Kamilion> http://www.amazon.com/Ghost-Shell-Movie-CD-Win95/dp/B0002OMXZO <--- wow, someone else still has one, lol... Came in a big plastic 80s-style cassette/cd case
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[0:11] <Kamilion> wow, apparently the "MovieCD" version is pretty rare. I lucked out, lol
[0:11] <Kamilion> google doesn't even have an image of it
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[0:12] <teclo-> that's indeed very rare
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[0:14] <daruma-> man
[0:14] <daruma-> ghost in the shell
[0:14] <daruma-> need to watch it again
[0:14] <teclo-> by the way is there already a Raspbian based on Debian 8.x ? Is this one: http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/raspbian_latest based on 8.x ?
[0:15] <Kamilion> nah, that's wheezy. But you can upgrade to jessie.
[0:15] <teclo-> Kamilion: ouch ! I'd rather make a clean install
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[0:15] <Kamilion> teclo-: http://linuxconfig.org/raspbian-gnu-linux-upgrade-from-wheezy-to-raspbian-jessie-8
[0:16] <teclo-> I'm a long-time Debian user and I have the tradition to always clean install and never upgrade... I find that much more clean....
[0:16] <Kamilion> running a pi2 or a pi1?
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[0:16] <Kamilion> a pi2 will run debian directly
[0:16] <teclo-> well I got Raspbian on my Pi1, but I've just ordeered a Pi2, on which I'd like to install a 8.x Debian
[0:16] <Kamilion> a pi1 needs rasbian because debian's minimum is ARMv7, and pi1 is ARMv6
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[0:17] <Kamilion> pi2 is ARMv7, so just about any distro's armhf rootfs will work if you have a kernel built from the pi foundation's github
[0:18] <Kamilion> but the rasbian wheezy -> jessie upgrade is the only way I know of to keep all the pi-specific tools
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[0:19] <teclo-> Kamilion: well I've read about the upgrade to jessie and indeed, it's pretty straightforwoard
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[0:20] <Kamilion> a little timeconsuming, but you can make your own image when you're done.
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[0:24] <teclo-> hmm well... I guess I'm gonna clean install Debian 8.x then...
[0:24] <teclo-> but... ah, how do I boot on my CD/DVD from the Raspberry Pi 2 ?
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[0:26] <Kamilion> teclo-: https://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPi
[0:26] <ShorTie> my_pi_os does the clean install preaty easily
[0:26] <Kamilion> ShorTie: got a link? I was just pulling down wheezy to do an upgrade myself.
[0:26] <ShorTie> https://github.com/ShorTie8/my_pi_os
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[0:27] <Kamilion> ShorTie: run it on the pi, or run it on an amd64 for an image?
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[0:28] <Kamilion> ah, n/m, looking at the bash script itself, I see all the variables.
[0:28] <linuxuz3r> can raspi 2 power a usb 3 hdd?
[0:28] <Kamilion> Depends on the current draw of the harddrive.
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[0:29] <Kamilion> if it's over 500mA, it's possible to trip a polyfuse; but if it's a modern 2.5" or 1.8" it should be at something like 430mA startup and ~300mA running
[0:29] <Kamilion> if it's a 3.5" drive, you'll definitely need to feed it 12V somehow.
[0:29] <linuxuz3r> does a raspi 2 board come with a power adapter
[0:30] <fluffet> no, it doesnt, linuxuz3r
[0:30] <fluffet> you have to buy one
[0:30] <linuxuz3r> ok
[0:30] <Kamilion> It has a USB micro charge port, just like a cellphone. No cable, no charger.
[0:30] <fluffet> I use my old phone charger to power it ^^
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[0:30] <Kamilion> if you already have an android phone, generally you can use the cable and charger
[0:30] <fluffet> works great
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[0:31] <Kamilion> I prefer using iphone power bricks, they're tiny and they seem very stable.
[0:31] <linuxuz3r> raspi support microsdcard but will it support 32gb card
[0:31] <fluffet> yeah I use an s4 brick
[0:31] <fluffet> yes
[0:31] <Kamilion> supports anything the linux SD driver will
[0:31] <fluffet> i have a 32gb card in mine
[0:31] <Kamilion> so SDXC is supported, all the way up to 256GB, I think.
[0:31] <Kamilion> and I doubt the linux driver is actually limited by that LBA count
[0:31] <linuxuz3r> ok
[0:32] <Kamilion> likely it should be able to address 2TB or more
[0:32] <linuxuz3r> how much space will the os take?
[0:32] <linuxuz3r> snappy core and winiot core
[0:32] <Kamilion> which OS? there's like at least fifty.
[0:32] <Kamilion> I dunno, however much space your installed packages take up, then
[0:32] <linuxuz3r> default
[0:32] <Kamilion> uh
[0:33] <Kamilion> default of what?
[0:33] <linuxuz3r> how ever many package comes with the distro
[0:33] <Kamilion> snappy's not package based
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[0:33] <Kamilion> it's layered
[0:33] <Kamilion> so it depends on which layers you have turned on.
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[0:34] <Kamilion> and the Windows 10 IoT edition image is less than a gigabyte, but doesn't seem to be dual-bootable, so you'll need two SDs.
[0:34] <linuxuz3r> Kamilion: what do you mean by layers
[0:34] <linuxuz3r> yes i need 2 sds
[0:34] <Kamilion> ... Exactly as I said?
[0:34] <Kamilion> Snappy isn't package based. It doesn't use packages.
[0:35] <Kamilion> It uses layers. Stacked layers.
[0:35] <linuxuz3r> i got to read up on that
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[0:35] <Kamilion> snappy doesn't even have apt
[0:35] <linuxuz3r> is java supported on snappy core and iot core
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[0:36] <Kamilion> uh
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[0:36] <Kamilion> I have no idea how you'd get the source to java to build it for win10 IoT
[0:36] <Kamilion> but I'm not seeing an independant java layer for snappy
[0:36] <Kamilion> chances are you'll need to specify the application that depends on it and snappy will pull in the proper layer if it exists
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[0:37] <Kamilion> http://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/filesystem-layout/
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[0:38] <Kamilion> http://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/architecture/
[0:38] <Kamilion> Snappy will pull in whatever 'framework' is needed to satisfy the application's defined requirements in the .yaml infomation for a snappy layer.
[0:39] <linuxuz3r> thanks
[0:39] <Kamilion> the bigger problem is that snappy's so new, there's not a whole lot of layers built yet. So you'll have to define your own applications mostly.
[0:39] <Kamilion> http://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/packaging-format-apps/
[0:39] <linuxuz3r> do you know if there is fedora for raspi
[0:39] <Kamilion> which pi
[0:39] <linuxuz3r> raspi 2 b
[0:39] <Kamilion> the pi2 can run any ARMv7 rootfs as long as a proper kernel's booted.
[0:40] <Kamilion> so to answer your question, yes, you can absolutely run fedora's armhf rootfs.
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[0:40] <Kamilion> the easiest to get started would be ubuntu-mate though. https://ubuntu-mate.org/raspberry-pi/
[0:40] <linuxuz3r> Kamilion: which is better fedora or snappy
[0:40] <Kamilion> Better how?
[0:41] <linuxuz3r> yes
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[0:41] <Kamilion> fedora is an utter trashpile to me, I hate RPM, hate hate hate RPM. Will not tolerate it.
[0:42] <Kamilion> snappy's also a failure in my opinion, so I'll have to say "Neither"
[0:42] <linuxuz3r> which distro is better with lots of packages
[0:42] <Kamilion> Whichever distro you like.
[0:42] <Kamilion> I dislike most of them due to technical reasons
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[0:43] <Kamilion> just use NOOBS and try a bunch until you find one you like.
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[0:43] <teclo-> well Debian has over 43000 packages....
[0:43] <teclo-> but other distros have lot of a packages too
[0:43] <Kamilion> https://ubuntu-mate.org/raspberry-pi/ <--- this is going to be the least hassle
[0:44] <Kamilion> also, you're probably assuming you'll get a desktop on Win10 IoT, sorry to break your mind, but there's no desktop. HDMI output is enabled, but only if you write a .net application.
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[0:45] <linuxuz3r> yes
[0:45] <linuxuz3r> metro apps
[0:45] <Kamilion> there's just a status page, you can reboot it or shut it down. Everything else must be done from a real windows 10 desktop PC (IN developer mode, with visual studio 2015 and the IoT Watcher pack)
[0:46] <fluffet> Anyone good with apache configs here?
[0:47] <nid0> probably a fair few of us
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[0:47] <fluffet> I can get my rutorrent page with xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/rutorrent (as in, entering ip directly) but not mydomain.com/rutorrent
[0:48] <nid0> post your vhost somewhere and provide your domain and IP
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[0:48] <fluffet> well the thing is
[0:49] <fluffet> my domain is hosted with flask in wsgi
[0:49] <fluffet> so I figure I just need to add one line somewhere that is my domain/rutorrent to ignore wsgi
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[0:49] <linuxuz3r> can you hotspot with android using raspi
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[0:53] <fluffet> Yep, I successfully rerouted but now it doesnt require htaccess :D
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[0:54] <fluffet> that's not very good for a torrent client
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[0:57] <linuxuz3r> what programming languages are supported in arm linux
[0:58] <fluffet> lots.
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[0:59] <fluffet> since C works, every interpreted language built on C (which is like, all of them) work
[0:59] <fluffet> and if you run one language you can usually transpile it to whatever you want, should a language not be supported ^^
[1:01] <Kamilion> fluffet: O_o why in the world are you trying to use apache instead of nginx for serving flask?
[1:01] <fluffet> i dunno someone said i should
[1:01] <Kamilion> linuxuz3r: all of them
[1:01] <Kamilion> actually, I dunno about apple's swift
[1:01] <Kamilion> not sure if they released the runtime or not
[1:02] <Kamilion> fluffet: huh. How strange. Cause nginx has a uwsgi_pass command built right in for me.
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[1:03] <fluffet> i have to say getting it to run was a bit tricky
[1:03] <Kamilion> I'll bet
[1:03] <Kamilion> how much ram did apache try to use? 400MB? more?
[1:03] <fluffet> how can i see that? ^^
[1:03] <Kamilion> htop ?
[1:03] <fluffet> no command found :|
[1:03] <Kamilion> install it then.
[1:03] <Kamilion> or just use free
[1:04] <Kamilion> http://puu.sh/jwQAY/6cacf0c834.png <--- but I think you'll prefer htop.
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[1:07] <fluffet> every instance uses like 5mb res
[1:07] <Kamilion> http://puu.sh/jwQMa/5ce5006898.png <--- these are the view settings I use. Your taste may vary
[1:07] <Kamilion> 5M resident isn't too bad
[1:07] <fluffet> no :)
[1:07] <Kamilion> how much in Virt?
[1:07] <fluffet> 42 mb but virt doesn't matter?
[1:07] <fluffet> it's just how much memory apache thinks it has?
[1:08] <Kamilion> yjsy
[1:08] <Kamilion> sorry, sneezed while typing
[1:08] <HtheB> push the tempo pushe iweuhf we879wiuf ebiwebcwegy eihuewoiuehwiuwehf wiufhif cc viwbf9wg asiy gsifyg FYUIFYg weiufgyAUKFYg
[1:08] <Kamilion> yeah, virt is # of bytes allocated, res is # of bytes resident (in memory, right now), shr is how many unique bytes are shared
[1:09] <HtheB> sorry, was listening (and watching) to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_SJfF6-JJ8
[1:09] <Kamilion> virt can get paged out if you have swap
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[1:11] <Kamilion> ugh, comcast modem has started it's evening disconnect-me-every-5-minutes schpiel.
[1:11] <fluffet> yeha swap is kinda essential for the rpi ^^
[1:11] <Kamilion> avoiding swap is essential, fluffet
[1:11] <fluffet> yeah but thats kinda hard with 1 gb ram
[1:11] <Kamilion> not really?
[1:12] <fluffet> sometimes what you do just requires more ram
[1:12] <Kamilion> I'm hosting 9 websites in 279MB of ram on that VM I screenshotted.
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[1:13] <fluffet> that's not what i meant
[1:13] <fluffet> of course you want to avoid swap, but eventually you'll run into situations where you can't do that because what you do requires more ram
[1:13] <Kamilion> and an ircd, and a mailserver, redis, rethinkdb, mysql, a time server, and postgresql.
[1:14] <Kamilion> oh, and a mumble/murmur VoiceChatOverIP server too.
[1:14] <Kamilion> still, 279MB :)
[1:14] <Kamilion> although 282MB has been sitting in swap for apparently months
[1:15] <Kamilion> fluffet: yeah, and swap still isn't the answer. If you're running something that large, chances are it's something you've built yourself (eg, with flask or something)
[1:15] <Kamilion> and you're better off writing some state out to flash and throwing away the data you have in memory than letting it go to swap
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[1:16] <fluffet> problem is i just got rutorrent to work with apache ._.
[1:17] <Kamilion> but really, I've not found much besides java, PHP and a couple large large ruby apps like redmine will need more than 1GB
[1:17] <Kamilion> i saved the most amount of memory just getting rid of PHP from my stack entirely
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[1:17] <Kamilion> hey, I'm not insisting you change
[1:17] <Kamilion> just pointing out something that would probably fit your resources better
[1:18] <fluffet> i use 301mb atm
[1:18] <Kamilion> also, because .htaccess sucks, imho
[1:18] <fluffet> but apache uses a chunk of that
[1:18] <Kamilion> pretty good -- flask only, or PHP too?
[1:19] <fluffet> both
[1:19] <fluffet> rutorrent is php-based whereas my site flask
[1:19] <Kamilion> php5-fpm?
[1:19] <fluffet> no idea
[1:19] <fluffet> it was a dependency, and i hate php :D
[1:20] <fluffet> though mysql seems to run in like 12 instances
[1:20] <fluffet> wtf is the deal with that
[1:20] <Kamilion> php5-fpm is the wsgi-worker-maker-magic-balance thingy
[1:20] <Kamilion> same process ID? threads. Different process id? maybe a problem.
[1:20] <fluffet> different PID's
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[1:21] <Kamilion> hm, yeah, i only have the one mysqld process, 667MB virt, 6260 bytes resident
[1:22] <fluffet> Yeah 17 instances of mysql with 40816 res each, i have no idea what that means
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[1:23] <Kamilion> not sure
[1:23] <Kamilion> I honestly don't use mysql or postgresql anymore
[1:23] <Kamilion> I have them around for a couple legacy apps that almost never get touched
[1:23] <Kamilion> all my modern stuff uses http://www.rethinkdb.com/
[1:24] <fluffet> i thought that was just for games
[1:24] <Kamilion> (and yes, they do support arm&pi, and have a couple pi2s in their office)
[1:24] <Kamilion> what? rethink?
[1:24] <fluffet> yeah
[1:24] <fluffet> or like immediate data to several users at the same time
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[1:25] <Kamilion> never heard of any games using it yet
[1:25] <fluffet> someone told me agar.io used it but im not so sure
[1:25] <Kamilion> oh, it might
[1:25] <Kamilion> i've played agario once or twice
[1:25] <Berg> mongo
[1:25] <Kamilion> ah
[1:25] <Kamilion> yeah, I'm not really a fan of mongodb personally
[1:26] <Kamilion> I like the idea, but the implimentation is... um...
[1:26] <Kamilion> how do I put this nicely?
[1:26] <Berg> :)
[1:26] <Berg> I love it
[1:26] <Kamilion> horsemanure.jpg
[1:26] <Berg> its easy for me as i have never used any other db
[1:26] <Kamilion> i got really REALLY sick of having huge mongo queries
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[1:27] <Kamilion> and having to pull an entire document just to pluck one field from it
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[1:27] <Berg> you dont have to do that
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[1:27] <Kamilion> I did with the mongo ORM that I was using.
[1:27] <Berg> you can pull jkust one item from one doc
[1:27] <Berg> well there ya go
[1:27] <Kamilion> but it's fine, because mongo doesn't do the things I need done
[1:28] <Berg> anyway its still good for me
[1:28] <Kamilion> aye
[1:28] <Kamilion> won't argue there :D
[1:28] <Kamilion> when it's deployed properly, it's pretty tough too.
[1:28] <Kamilion> er wait
[1:28] <Kamilion> sorry
[1:28] <Kamilion> sorry
[1:28] <Kamilion> mixing up mongo and redis
[1:28] <Berg> the bonus is i havre never used any other system so if you have never tasted chocolate you dont miss it
[1:28] <Kamilion> redis is the one I don't like
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[1:29] <Berg> mongo sad
[1:29] <Berg> telegram for mister mongo
[1:29] <linuxuz3r> what is noobs1.4?
[1:29] <Kamilion> anyway, rethinkdb is pretty much feature-par with mongodb in most places where it counts
[1:30] <Kamilion> linuxuz3r: the menu to install other OS images with.
[1:30] <linuxuz3r> dont you install the os to the sdcard
[1:30] <Kamilion> i don't mean to be a jerk, but d'you mind doing a bit more googling?
[1:30] <linuxuz3r> ok
[1:30] <Kamilion> lemme see if I can find you a link or two to help start you off
[1:31] <Berg> does rethink have a python methods?
[1:31] <Berg> or lib
[1:31] <Kamilion> yeah, it's not optimized yet though
[1:31] <Berg> hmm
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[1:31] <Kamilion> linuxuz3r: you seem like you might benefit from video more than reading, so check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4GOG4P-4tY
[1:31] <Berg> see thats where i like mongo but it took a while to be python happy too
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[1:32] <Kamilion> Berg: they're pretty much the same thing, arbitrary depth json document; but the magic is in the query language
[1:32] <Berg> you tube is a very good education tool
[1:32] <Kamilion> rethink is basically an ORM right out of the box
[1:32] <Berg> yeah
[1:32] <Kamilion> mongo is a little more annoying since you can't chain it's methods as easily
[1:32] <Kamilion> and mongo is definitely more mature
[1:32] <Kamilion> rethinkdb's 2.1 release will be the first to have proper failover using SWIM
[1:33] <Berg> well im using mongo for a ranking web based system for players and there profiles
[1:33] <Kamilion> I'm using rethink in like... 30 projects... lol
[1:33] <Berg> so the data is not huge
[1:33] <Kamilion> check out one of my Flask models
[1:33] <Berg> it would prolly be too complex for me to understand
[1:34] <Kamilion> https://github.com/kamilion/mcubed-web/blob/master/pages/pagesmodel.py
[1:34] <Berg> like i said i have used nothing else
[1:34] <linuxuz3r> Kamilion: does the os reside in sdcard?
[1:34] <linuxuz3r> can home reside in sdcard
[1:34] <Kamilion> linuxuz3r: Everything must be on the SDcard initially
[1:35] <Kamilion> once you have a running system you can edit /etc/fstab and add USB or network attached storage.
[1:35] <Kamilion> but an SD card is *REQUIRED* for the GPU to start up (and the GPU is what starts up the CPU)
[1:35] <Berg> i like the comments
[1:35] <Kamilion> so there's no way to run without an SDcard in place, as far as I'm aware.
[1:35] <linuxuz3r> ok thanks
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[1:36] <Kamilion> Berg: my 'tickets' model using the Remodel library is even simpler. https://github.com/kamilion/kaizen/blob/master/tickets/ticketsmodel.py
[1:36] <Berg> thats where i fail i forget comments
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[1:36] <Kamilion> https://github.com/kamilion/kaizen/blob/master/auth/authmodel.py <--- mixing scrypt and rethinkdb for an auth system
[1:37] <Kamilion> you might like to read that one
[1:37] <Kamilion> the comments are pretty clean
[1:37] <Berg> you wona come work on warzone
[1:37] <Berg> hehehe just joke
[1:37] <Kamilion> warzone 2100?
[1:37] <Kamilion> not really, sorry
[1:37] <Berg> yeah
[1:37] <Kamilion> TA was never really my bag
[1:37] <Berg> you been there?
[1:38] <Berg> TA and warzone are not the same fish
[1:38] <Kamilion> I had warzone on my amiga, I'll put it that way
[1:38] <Berg> that was a very very very
[1:38] <Kamilion> not really looking forward to stepping back 15 years
[1:38] <Kamilion> especally not with stuff like C&C generals
[1:38] <Berg> I dint know it ran on commodore
[1:39] <Berg> its ok i got it you only like data bases
[1:39] <Berg> hehehe
[1:39] <Berg> <---funny guy
[1:39] <Kamilion> eh, not really
[1:39] <Kamilion> I just got really sick of stuffing json into a sql column
[1:40] <Kamilion> felt dirty doing it *every time*
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[1:40] <fluffet> I did some research
[1:40] <Kamilion> finally I asked the right question... "why the #$##@$^ am I using sql for this anyway?"
[1:40] <Berg> i like json
[1:40] <fluffet> Apache runs in several instances as well as the mysql processes, and it's just a way of performance threading
[1:40] <Kamilion> fluffet: round robin
[1:41] <Berg> i use bottle for a web server
[1:41] <Berg> <---funny guy
[1:41] <Kamilion> more than just API?
[1:41] <Berg> i dont like apache
[1:41] <fluffet> Bottle goes well with Flask I guess? :D
[1:41] <Berg> yes
[1:41] <Kamilion> no, bottle and flask are competitors
[1:41] <fluffet> oh
[1:41] <Berg> its the same thing
[1:41] <Berg> same same
[1:41] <Kamilion> bottle is one-file-web-app, "Great for REST APIs"
[1:41] <fluffet> i've only heard about flask
[1:41] <fluffet> oh
[1:41] <fluffet> i see
[1:42] <Kamilion> flask is 'extensions' and everything
[1:42] <fluffet> yes
[1:42] <fluffet> I love flask
[1:42] <Kamilion> https://github.com/kamilion/kaizen/ <--- this is my stack of flask stuff
[1:42] <Berg> see every time i pick the wrong side
[1:42] <Berg> poor me
[1:42] <Kamilion> flask, flask-classy, flask-login, flask-bouncer, and flask-plugins
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[1:43] <Kamilion> y'mean the side of not writing readem.txt and duckumentations.rtf? ;)
[1:43] <Berg> did you do a mailer?
[1:44] <Kamilion> yeah
[1:44] <Kamilion> https://github.com/kamilion/kaizen/blob/master/app/mailer.py
[1:44] <fluffet> is it that smart to host a mail server on a rpi?
[1:45] <Kamilion> https://github.com/kamilion/kaizen/blob/master/tickets/ticketsform.py#L54
[1:45] <Kamilion> fluffet: what part of a mailserver?
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[1:45] <fluffet> inbox
[1:45] <Kamilion> MTA, MUA, or MDA?
[1:45] <fluffet> I would love to run a domain mail on google apps
[1:45] <fluffet> so that I know it has 100% uptime
[1:45] <fluffet> it should be possible with altering @ dns records right?
[1:46] <Kamilion> MTA deals with mail transport, IE, SMTP, SMTPS
[1:46] <Kamilion> MDA deals with user mailboxes but not transport
[1:46] <fluffet> yeah but I dont want to host any of that on a rpi
[1:46] <Kamilion> IE, pop3, IMAP4
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[1:46] <Berg> i just use gmail all the time
[1:46] <fluffet> just because if one important mail is lost it can have consequences
[1:46] <Kamilion> why not? msmtp works fine
[1:46] <fluffet> such as; isp has temporary outtage
[1:46] <Kamilion> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Msmtp <--- best msmtp setup instructions.
[1:46] <fluffet> or your rpi psu breaks and you don't notice your rpi is offline for 2 hours
[1:47] <Kamilion> scroll down to #Gmail
[1:47] <Kamilion> personally I prefer having a real mailqueue like postfix
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[1:47] <Kamilion> msmtp as a -> gmail forwarder is simple and easy, but not always robust
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[1:48] <Kamilion> the problem is, many applications will still try to use the 'sendmail' binary instead of making an outgoing SMTP connection themselves. msmtp has a sendmail-compatible shellscript to do so.
[1:48] <Kamilion> I didn't want to deal with all that bunk
[1:49] <Kamilion> https://github.com/kamilion/kaizen/blob/master/app/mailer.py <--- so when I wrote the wrapping around my mailer, I set it up to speak SMTP (and made sure to test it against gmail and MS Exchange 2010)
[1:50] <Kamilion> you'll see stuff like the comment on line 38 - https://github.com/kamilion/kaizen/blob/master/app/mailer.py#L38 - mailserver.login(SMTP['username'], SMTP['password']) # username format for exchange: 'domain\username'
[1:51] <Kamilion> and other weirdness such as dealing with the double EHLO to open a TLS session
[1:52] <Kamilion> afk for a while.
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[1:57] <Berg> :)
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[2:04] <Berg> http://pastebin.com/Pw9UZTT2
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[3:29] <stagnator> you can still run domain name husing google apps for FREE
[3:29] <stagnator> http://www.labnol.org/internet/google-apps-free/26926/
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[3:33] <Kamilion> good to know
[3:34] * Kamilion signed up for Apps for your Domain about as soon as it was available... 50 users for free :)
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[3:52] <Kamilion> ah, wonderful. Just got an email from microsoft, IoT's gone public: http://ms-iot.github.io/content/en-US/Downloads.htm
[3:53] <Kamilion> http://ms-iot.github.io/content/en-US/win10/ReleaseNotes.htm
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[3:58] <Karlton> eww, keep that away :)
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[4:02] <exonormal> yeh, I won't use windows on a pi... defeats its original purpose...
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[4:05] <Karlton> useless anyway, microsoft will not have C11 compiler until 2021 probably
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[4:08] <exonormal> hope not..
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[4:10] <exonormal> I've given up on windows... it's so irritating anymore, even at work where I have to use it daily... wow... it's getting worse everyday...
[4:10] <stagnator> Actually, Windows 10 isn't half bad
[4:10] <exonormal> not going to try it, Linux is it...
[4:11] <exonormal> Linux is for the people, not the companies
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[4:13] <Karlton> well GNU is for the people, Linux is just mostly
[4:14] <Karlton> Although the issue isn't the company, it is what he company does
[4:15] <Karlton> For example I would never accept a privacy statement like this: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=506737
[4:16] <Karlton> it should be called an anti-privacy statement :)
[4:17] <exonormal> wow, I guess so, lol.... holy moly... what is they thinking?
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[4:20] <Karlton> It works well for Google, so probably will work well for Microsoft too
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[4:23] <Karlton> "Examples of data we may collect include your name, email address, preferences and interests; location, browsing, search and file history; phone call and SMS data; device configuration and sensor data; voice, text and writing input; and application usage." So bacially a statement of no privacy :(
[4:24] <Karlton> s/bacially/basically/
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[4:25] <exonormal> same as facebook
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[6:14] <rxMokka> has anyone observed an option for utilizing GPIO in the current library without full sudo privs? I'm looking for something along the lines of a restricted pam or sudo solution that only allows access to non-system areas of the mem devices
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[6:51] <Xark> rxMokka: My understanding is there is also a character based GPIO device (e.g., echo 55 > /sys/class/gpio/export \n echo out > /sys/class/gpio/gpio55/direction \n echo 1 > /sys/class/gpio/gpio55/value )
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[6:54] <rxMokka> Xark: yea, I've used that for bash scripted I/O, and it works fine from what I've seen. But I'm wanting to work with some higher level python programs and libraries that rely on the RPi.GPIO library which accesses the /dev/mem directly (from what I understand)\
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[6:55] <Xark> rxMokka: Yeah. Well, AFAIK, you can't give access to just a bit of /dev/mem.
[6:56] <rxMokka> Xark: that's kinda the impression I've seen so far
[6:56] <rxMokka> Xark: however, I've been thinking about things like Apparmor that give fairly finite control over very low level permissions, or possibly some of the more obscure PAM stuff
[6:57] <rxMokka> but I hate working with PAM
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[9:42] <theraspberry> Hey guys, I have been having a problem with my Wifi Adapter for about 5 months now, I know that wifi questions arn't the most well received here but I have tried and tried and I honestly think my chip is dead.
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[9:42] <theraspberry> I have tried using it on 2 other machines and it just doesn't work
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[9:43] <theraspberry> The thing is, it shows up on lsusb. So I have been hanging on for ages lol
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[9:46] <theraspberry> when I iwlist wlan0 scan it just's hangs the terminal or "No scan results" me
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[9:49] <ShorTie> lsusb doesn't really tell much except it is reconized on the usb bus
[9:49] <ShorTie> have you looked in dmesg at all ??
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[9:49] <theraspberry> I have previous times, but not this reinstall
[9:51] <ShorTie> "2 other machines" what os is on them ??
[9:51] <theraspberry> Mint and on a spare windows machine
[9:52] <theraspberry> On mint it would show up as a wireless iface and but when I would go turn it on it would just not work.
[9:53] <theraspberry> I didn't spend much time with it though
[9:53] <ShorTie> does it need some firmware maybe ??
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[9:53] <theraspberry> I did look up that, and I had all of it pre-installed.
[9:54] <theraspberry> Sometimes like now the led on the chip lit up
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[9:54] <theraspberry> It had worked once
[9:54] <theraspberry> ONCE
[9:55] <ShorTie> what chipset is it ??
[9:55] <theraspberry> oh btw, you think this might have a problem with it?
[9:55] <theraspberry> [ 1334.005748] ieee80211 phy20: rt2800usb_tx_sta_fifo_read_completed: Warning - TX status read failed -71
[9:55] <theraspberry> its the RT5370
[9:55] <theraspberry> btw
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[9:56] <theraspberry> This showes up in dmsg when I plug it in http://pastebin.com/DRi8BnTj
[9:57] <skylite> im trying to build python 3.4.3 on my raspberry pi, the make says: "Python build finished successfully!" but the make test fails: "Warning -- multiprocessing.process._dangling was modified by test_multiprocessing_spawn Test suite interrupted by signal SIGINT." Should I run make install or is there something wrong?
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[9:58] <theraspberry> don't you just sudo apt-get install python3 instead of downloading it?
[9:58] <theraspberry> skylite:
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[9:58] <skylite> theraspberry no that will only give me python3.2.3
[9:59] <theraspberry> skylite: Oh I'm sorry you need a newer version, didn't pay attention to that haha sorry.
[10:00] <skylite> :) yea
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[10:10] <theraspberry> It shows up ion iwconfig too, but never connects to the AP I told it to
[10:10] <ShorTie> l00ks like you need stretch or better for 3.4.3
[10:12] <ShorTie> you using wicd or trying to edit interfaces to connect ??
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[10:36] <t3chguy> ShorTie:
[10:36] <ShorTie> Yes
[10:37] <t3chguy> I stumbled upon your Arduino_IDE repo
[10:37] <ShorTie> Cool
[10:37] <t3chguy> I'm trying to program my Due from my Pi, will https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=92662 work for me?
[10:37] <t3chguy> the Repo's version of the IDE doesn't have a board manager
[10:38] <ShorTie> after you upgrade to jessie it should work, or it does for me
[10:38] <t3chguy> Well
[10:38] <t3chguy> thats the other problem
[10:39] <t3chguy> I'm on the other side of the tree
[10:39] <t3chguy> I'm on Ubuntu Mate
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[10:39] <ShorTie> ya, that is like a no go, sorry
[10:39] <t3chguy> ah crap
[10:40] <ShorTie> Ubuntu is still runnin like wheezy
[10:40] <t3chguy> why is Vivid running like Wheezy o_O?
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[10:40] <ShorTie> sorry, not hip on all the Ubuntu names
[10:41] <t3chguy> Vivid is the one before their current testing platform
[10:41] <t3chguy> 15.04
[10:42] <ShorTie> i say like wheezy because Vivid does not have all the stuff needed to get the IDE running, just like wheezy
[10:43] <t3chguy> ah right
[10:44] <t3chguy> lol the Arduino site says
[10:44] <t3chguy> "All Ubuntu versions (old and new) can get the newest packages from Debian Sid"
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[10:46] <ShorTie> there you go
[10:47] <ShorTie> i'm not much on mix-matching stuff like that, i just went and found a jessie image for my C1
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[10:47] <t3chguy> Odroid?
[10:47] <t3chguy> ShorTie: how would you compare it to the Pi (2 if you have one), I'm wanting to get a C1
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[10:49] <ShorTie> depends on what cha l00kin for, some things better and somethings are not as good
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[10:56] <t3chguy> for actual use as a computer device
[10:56] <t3chguy> like to watch Youtube or whatever
[10:56] <t3chguy> can it actually playback youtube without struggling in a web browser ShorTie ?
[10:56] <ShorTie> why are you so hung up on "Ubuntu Mate", you know Mate is just another desktop
[10:56] <t3chguy> I do know Mate is just a DE
[10:56] <ShorTie> �k�� ��K��
[10:57] <ShorTie> not sure about youtube, not my thing
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[10:57] <t3chguy> fair enough
[10:57] <t3chguy> are they the same size?
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[10:57] <t3chguy> just wondering case-wise, not many C1 cases exist
[10:57] <ShorTie> but video is 1 of the things i don't think is quit is good, at least with the overscan
[10:58] <ShorTie> i bolt my stuff to a piece of 3" channel, so not much into cases either really
[10:58] <t3chguy> lol
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[10:59] <ShorTie> tend to move around less, for me atleast
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[11:06] <t3chguy> I might finally get around to rebuilding my SD with BerryBoot and then run Jessie on that solely for Arduino IDE
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[11:07] <ShorTie> i believe BerryBoot is old and unsupported any more
[11:08] <ShorTie> i'd just get another sdcard if it twas me
[11:08] <t3chguy> I have a 64GB Card that I'll never use up
[11:08] <t3chguy> and last time I tested it, it worked
[11:09] <t3chguy> ShorTie: it had an update 3 days ago
[11:09] <t3chguy> although before that it was almost a year xD
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[11:10] <ShorTie> i spent my $$'s on quanity not size, i have like 12 8gb sdcards
[11:10] <t3chguy> I didn't buy it
[11:10] <t3chguy> it was a gift and had no other use for it
[11:11] <ShorTie> it's hard to fill up 8gb with Linux .. :/~
[11:11] <t3chguy> lol yeah
[11:11] <t3chguy> watching youtube through youtube-dl and omxplayer helps out though
[11:11] <t3chguy> especially since I watch it in 1080p60 in DASH format
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[11:12] <ShorTie> i use my Arm boards for the gpio pins, not much into the video thing to tell the truth
[11:13] <t3chguy> I use my Pi for a bit of everything
[11:13] <t3chguy> have a spare monitor (4th) that I just plug into the Pi and play music/video
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[11:15] <t3chguy> ShorTie: how long does your Arduino IDE normally take to compile on the Pi O_O
[11:15] <t3chguy> its taking mine a WHILE
[11:15] <t3chguy> well, to compile and buildpackage
[11:16] <ShorTie> the IDE it's self, it does take a little bit, but not as long as getting all the dependancies
[11:17] <t3chguy> I'm trying my luck on Ubuntu Vivid
[11:17] <t3chguy> its sat on "dpkg-deb: building package `arduino-core' in `../arduino-core_1.6.5_all.deb'."
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[11:25] <ShorTie> you might want to try that other Thread-HiJacking method, but i don't support it
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[11:26] <ShorTie> wish the mods would do thier jobs and get rid of that junk really, as i have asked a few times
[11:26] <ShorTie> most likely, till they do, there is no more forums there in my life, lol.
[11:26] <t3chguy> wait, as the OP you can't remove posts within the thread?
[11:27] <ShorTie> i'm no op there
[11:27] <t3chguy> OP -> Original Poster
[11:28] <t3chguy> hmm ShorTie running your instructions directly, except manually pulling deps from apt, seems to be working
[11:28] <t3chguy> still not finished though
[11:28] <t3chguy> unpacking arduino-core over the 1.0.5 ver
[11:28] <ShorTie> that is why i moved it off the forums and onto github
[11:28] <ShorTie> there will be no new releases on the forums, just github, lol.
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[11:29] <t3chguy> lol
[11:31] * ShorTie hopes shiftplusone is reading this .. :/~
[11:37] <t3chguy> :o
[11:37] <t3chguy> no errors
[11:37] <t3chguy> time to try start arduino
[11:38] <t3chguy> ShorTie: it worked xD
[11:38] <t3chguy> so much for it won't work on Ubuntu!
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[11:38] <ShorTie> might want to start it from the cl not the icon, to see any errors
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[11:38] <t3chguy> yeah I launched it over ssh
[11:38] <t3chguy> and am viewing it over X Forwarding
[11:39] <t3chguy> ooh I like how the SAMD Due boards are already installed :)
[11:39] <t3chguy> thanks ShorTie, without that It'd have taken me much longer to get that damn thing working
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[11:41] <ShorTie> *darn
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[11:41] <ShorTie> there are other ways to discribe stuff then the use of those words Pleaze
[11:42] <Armand> ?!?
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[11:46] <ShorTie> Sorry, I am old fashion, I as boy was not allowed to use that d word, so i find it not fitting for a family friendly channel
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[11:47] <Armand> I find the needless pedantry for an inoffensive word quite unnecessary.
[11:47] <ShorTie> then leave
[11:48] <Armand> I think you should consider your own advice if you find the big, bad world to be 'offensive'.
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[11:50] <Lina> o/
[11:51] <NedScott> There was a time when people thought "hell" was just as bad. Words only have meaning if we give them meaning.
[11:51] <NedScott> sorry, I mean h. e. double-hocky-sticks
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[11:52] <Armand> NedScott: Indeed.. Such an opinion, if it is that, is utterly redundant.. Some people just need to grow up and realise the world isn't all soft-touch and wrapped in cottonwool.
[11:52] <Armand> One silly word doesn't bring the world crashing down.
[11:52] <Armand> Except 'war', maybe? :P
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[11:53] <NedScott> sure, but on the flip side, ShorTie is entitled to feeling the way he does and can ask that people not use that language, without the world crashing down :)
[11:54] * NedScott shrugs
[11:54] <Armand> And I'm sure that people are entitled to /ignore. ;)
[11:55] <NedScott> what's really upsetting is youtube's new volume icon. Absolutely horrible, IMO.
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[11:55] <NedScott> okay, maybe not upsetting
[11:55] <Armand> LMAO
[11:55] <NedScott> but a bad design decision
[11:55] <NedScott> it looks like a lamp
[11:55] <NedScott> most speakers and even wifi/radio icons make their "waves" more distinctly waves
[11:55] <Armand> I have to say, I find the constant updates to Facebook on mobile far more annoying.
[11:55] <NedScott> I think it's the nearly half circle part that really kills it
[11:56] <NedScott> oh man, I can't even use facebook anymore because of that stuff
[11:56] <NedScott> I don't mind keeping up with people, but I shouldn't have to relearn how to do so every 4 days
[11:57] <Armand> That's the thing... What the hell are they changing?? They don't even detail the updates!!
[11:57] <NedScott> and what's up with the whole "top stories" concept on facebook? Why can't I see the most-recent updates by default? how does facebook know what stories my aunt posted is interesting or not?
[11:57] <Armand> OH lawd.. That's just utter ****
[11:57] <Armand> MOST RECENT!! By default!! >_<
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[11:58] <Armand> Many are the colourful metaphors.
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[12:16] <Berg> i got toast that looks like jesus
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[12:18] <Armand> You put your toast up on a cross ?!?
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[12:25] <Berg> yeah
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[12:26] <Berg> its on ebay if you wona buy it
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[12:50] <Armand> Berg: I'm good.. Thanks. :P
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[12:53] <marble_visions> hi all, i am trying to emulate an RPI with qemu and was wondering why do I need a kernel-qemu to boot
[12:53] <marble_visions> i am following this guide:
[12:53] <marble_visions> http://linux-mitterteich.de/fileadmin/datafile/papers/2013/qemu_raspiemu_lug_18_sep_2013.pdf
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[13:01] <XpineX> Sorry if this is a bit off topic, but I was wondering if it is possible to use a single wifi nic as both access point and wifi nic at the same time ?
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[13:03] <marble_visions> XpineX: short answer -- you can't
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[13:03] <XpineX> Thanks, that's what I thought
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[13:12] <danieel> hello.. does anybody know why does the RPi's edidparse add a mandatory VGA mode? And even that I explicitly indicate a custom preferred timing, the VGA wins with higher score? http://pastebin.com/HtwUsp9g
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[13:29] <Nixola> oh this is the right one
[13:29] <Rar9> HI, I'm new and look for some help to get start to write a possible convert to revice and send UDP. and hints where to look for information? https://gist.github.com/silv3rm00n/5678933
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[13:31] <Nixola> hi, I'm using alarm (Arch Linux ARM) on my pi2 and I'd like to use wayland and maybe maynard, but I can't build the latter, I get this: http://niix.ga/makeMaynard.log
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[13:57] <guanpa> hi, do you use ESD-protection mats when playing with your RasPi?
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[14:01] <SpeedEvil> I use ESD protection mats when playing with everything
[14:01] <SpeedEvil> More seriously - with any non-boxed electronics, you should use an ESD dissipative surface.
[14:02] <SpeedEvil> While the circuit may be designed to take some ESD on its inputs and outputs, nodes in the middle are often less protective
[14:02] <SpeedEvil> protecrted
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[16:21] <nid0> interesting, just had my first ever experience of genuinely awful usb cables causing problems
[16:22] <nid0> bought 2 cables from a chinese amazon seller out of neccessity, on the very first use of both of them they immediately fizzed and began pouring smoke from the USB A end
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[16:23] <lemonzest> my usb cables (PL2303) both worked fine :)
[16:23] <lemonzest> got them from aliexpress
[16:23] <lemonzest> for about a quid (1 GBP)
[16:23] <nid0> these were £1.42 for 2 and both duff
[16:23] <lemonzest> ahh
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[16:24] <lemonzest> dont connect red lead, its 5v
[16:24] <lemonzest> board needs 3v3 for the uart
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[16:29] <lemonzest> green is rxd, white is txd, black is gnd
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[16:29] <lemonzest> i think, been a week or so since i used a uart cable
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[16:34] <Encrypt> nid0, Wow
[16:34] <Encrypt> What's the point of buying cables to chinese manufacturers?
[16:35] <Encrypt> A cable isn't that expensive
[16:35] <nid0> in this case, no choice other than going to the hassle of making my own. I need microusb cables that have sockets as small as possible at both ends, which means buying ones with right-angled connectors
[16:36] <nid0> and I haven't been able to find a single one produced by a reputable manufacture, theyre all cheapo ones from chinese sellers
[16:37] <nid0> http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0122JGPY6 are what I got - open to suggestions on where to get hold of anything that small but properly made
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[16:37] <nid0> plus, i've never really had problems with cables themselves before - obviously cheap wallwarts can be awful, but a cable's a cable
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[16:38] <lemonzest> oops, though you was talking uart usb serial cable, you talking about usb for power?
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[16:39] <nid0> lemonzest: yeah, just a normal microusb power cable
[16:39] <lemonzest> ahh
[16:39] <lemonzest> well hopefully someone will find my advice useful :P
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[16:41] <lemonzest> http://www.adafruit.com/product/954
[16:41] <lemonzest> this was what i was talking about
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[16:41] <nid0> ah :)
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[16:42] <obbs> neat, I remember always having to keep an old computer around with a serial port
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[16:42] <DelphiWorld> hi raspians
[16:42] <DelphiWorld> anything i could play with using raspberrypi and bluetooth through my phone?
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[16:46] <DelphiWorld> do RPi include bluetooth connectivity?
[16:47] <pksato> Yes, just plug a bt dongle.
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[16:47] <DelphiWorld> pksato: ok, i have one. but any suggestion what i could play with?
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[16:48] <pksato> bluez ?
[16:49] <DelphiWorld> bluez is installed
[16:49] <DelphiWorld> but any specific usage i can do
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[16:51] <pksato> I dont have much experience with bluetooth.
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[17:28] <fluffet> I have a disk that's completely unallocated. I want to use it to extend my RPi; what format should it be? NTSF is Windows right?
[17:29] <ThinkingofPython> _| ̄|○
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[17:50] <Encapsulation> I passed data structures =D
[17:52] <mgottschlag> \o/
[17:52] <mgottschlag> now on to more interesting topics :p
[17:54] <ctrlshftn> lol
[17:54] <fluffet> I liked my data structure course :D
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[17:54] <fluffet> but OS course... i'd rather drink bleach
[17:54] <mgottschlag> data structures are incredibly important, but... interesting? no.
[17:54] <mgottschlag> also, OS courses ftw.
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[17:55] <fluffet> i have to implement parts of an operating system called PintOS :<
[17:55] <fluffet> it's really tricky
[17:56] <fluffet> or well, it's not that much code you have to add.. but the where, when and how it should work takes really long to figure out
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[17:59] <Encapsulation> pintos.... interesting
[17:59] <Encapsulation> probably something like this in the near future for me
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[18:06] <fluffet> hopefully you'll enjoy it more than me
[18:06] <fluffet> it's the biggest time sink there is, and you just see the work in your other courses pile up ^^
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[18:20] <SyncYourDogmas> fluffet: ext4 works well for my terabyte ssd, only Linux though
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[20:00] <NedScott> what exactly to the magnets do in the raspberry pi ethernet jacks?
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[20:02] <Xark> NedScott: https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/27756/why-are-ethernet-rj45-sockets-magnetically-coupled
[20:03] <NedScott> ha, I'm reading that right now
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[20:09] <NedScott> I still have no idea what they said
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[20:19] <MonkehParade> Hello ^^,
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[20:22] <MonkehParade> The room is dead :c
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[20:26] <ctrlshftn> yes
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[20:26] <ctrlshftn> MonkehParade o/
[20:26] <MonkehParade> ctrlshftn, o/
[20:26] <MonkehParade> :3
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[20:26] <ctrlshftn> Whats up?
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[20:27] <MonkehParade> Just wanted to ask somebody if I could use a PATA cable to extend my GPIO ports
[20:27] <ctrlshftn> Yes you can
[20:29] <NedScott> just make sure it's 40 wire and not one of those goofy 80 wire ones
[20:31] <ctrlshftn> And if youre working with a breadboard i suggest you get the pi cobbler. no messy wires
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[20:39] <MonkehParade> Yeah, I heard that you can fry your pi with a 80 wire ones
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[20:43] <H__> how so ?
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[20:44] <ctrlshftn> 80 wires wont fit
[20:44] <H__> inductive capacitance ?
[20:44] <H__> oh
[20:44] <H__> ok :)
[20:44] <ctrlshftn> pi has 40 pins
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[20:53] <NedScott> the 80 wire version still has a 40 pin connector, but it shorts ground wires that are safe to short on a normal PATA connection, but end up shorting GPIO pins on a Pi
[20:53] <NedScott> in other words, 80 wire cables have their 40 pins not totally isolated from each other
[20:54] <NedScott> which doesn't make any sense to me. Adding more wires to short the connections together...
[20:54] <NedScott> I'm sure there's some science reason, but meh
[20:56] <ali1234> whut?
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[20:57] <ali1234> hmm so PDIAG is grounded ont he 80 way cable
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[20:58] <ali1234> that's pin 34. which is GND anyway on a raspberry pi
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[20:59] <ali1234> or it you plug the cable backwards it's GPIO 4, which should not cause damage
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[21:00] <ali1234> hmm i see, all the ground pins are connected together too
[21:00] <ali1234> that's not good
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[21:08] <SyncYourDogmas> Would there be any performance increase at all, If I ran squid on a b 2 and proxied my phone,tablet,desktop and another pi
[21:09] <SyncYourDogmas> Ethernert to router,I have great wifi adapters
[21:09] <SyncYourDogmas> I'm worried about the ethernert interface, is it still really usb?
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[21:16] <zeroquake> Curious , are there sensors out there which can be connected to x86 boards like your old laptops
[21:17] <ctrlshftn> zeroquake yes. I have a Temp Sensor connected to my motherboard.
[21:18] <zeroquake> Where can i find information on such ? i dont seem to find any posts utilizing old laptops hardware etc
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[21:19] <ctrlshftn> Dunno
[21:21] <SyncYourDogmas> ##hardware perhaps
[21:21] <zeroquake> thank you
[21:21] <SyncYourDogmas> Np
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[21:45] <exobuzz> http://blog.petrockblock.com/2015/08/11/retropie-3-0-is-released/
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[23:19] <fluffet> I'll be damned! playing movies from an external drive -> pi -> samba over network to windows pc works flawlessly
[23:19] <fluffet> why do people say things like this shouldnt work? :P
[23:20] <Kamilion> circumstances.
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[23:21] <fluffet> playing a 16gb movie, even :)
[23:21] <fluffet> im really impressed, didnt think it would work at all
[23:22] <Lina> until you don't play h.265 movies it's ok
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[23:24] <fluffet> why? is h.265 not decoded on my pc?
[23:24] <fluffet> i thought the pi just forwarded the data in the file
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[23:26] <Lina> yeah, don't play it on the PI. if you a have a good CPU on your desktop it's ok
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[23:41] <Karlton> I wish mplayer had GPU accel for the pi :(
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[23:44] <CoJaBo> fluffet: If your PC is fast enough, you can transcode on the fly; probably not nearly as feasible for h.265 tho (it works for MPEG2 -> MP4 on my laptop)
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[23:45] <Karlton> Omxplayer uses 3 things I hate: dbus, boost, and C++ :(
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