#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2015-08-19

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[0:18] <freezevee> can someone please help ?
[0:18] <freezevee> https://github.com/TMRh20/RF24Network/issues/54
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[0:23] <Karlton> That's like saying i'll stop owning slaves when someone picks my cotton for free :D
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[0:25] <Karlton> and of course you have to bring kids into the arguement to make yourself sound less selfish
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[0:26] <Karlton> my kids aren't going to eat unless someone picks my cotton for free
[0:27] <Karlton> You wouldn't want my kids to starve, would you?
[0:27] <Karlton> because those are the only options in my life...
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[0:51] <chars6> hey, i was just on #xbian looking for help. i'm gonna copy/paste my first few questions
[0:51] <chars6> about 2 weeks ago i came home and my RPi2 seemed broken
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[0:51] <chars6> i'd get alternating flashing red and green lights, so i ordered another one
[0:52] <chars6> he new one comes in the mail today, i load XBian on a microsd card and plug it in
[0:52] <chars6> and my tv reads no signal, with the RPi having a flashing green light
[0:52] <chars6> so now i think... maybe it was the sd card? i flash a new microsd and try that. same flashing green with no signal
[0:52] <chars6> thing is, i have a RPi1 which works fine using all the same cables
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[0:52] <chars6> and before i plugged in the newest RPi2, i tried it one last time and instead of alternating red and green i was only getting green, like the new one is doing
[0:54] <chars6> in summary, that's 2 RPi2's not working, (green blinking ACT led) and 1 RPi1 works fine, same everything
[0:54] <NedScott> Are you using the Pi2-specific image?
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[0:55] <chars6> soemthing else i just noticed a mintue ago, with the RPi2's. if i plug them in without an sd card, the new one does nothing different, just same green blink, but the old one, after a few blinks, gives me a steady red and green led
[0:56] <chars6> NedScott: yea, i think earlier i got the wrong version trying to download the latest, but since then i've been using an old img i had saved from before
[0:58] <chars6> i have 2 microsd cards. the one i was using before my first RPi2 "broke" (not too sure about that anymore) and a fresh one i just opened today. different manufacturers
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[1:00] <chars6> oh, turns out the broken one doesn't stop at a steady red/green when i turn it on without an sd card, it does other weird blinking shit afterwards
[1:01] <chars6> i tried installing OpenElec too. same issues
[1:02] <NedScott> weird
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[1:18] <lee> I have a (low bandwidth, keypad) I2C device that I want to have a reasonable distance away from the Pi (maybe two metres), what physical cable would you use? CAT6? cut up a serial cable?
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[1:19] <Kamilion> chars6: and you've tried the most recent rasbian images from may, I think it was?
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[1:20] <Kamilion> I assume it was working at one point, as you describe returning to find it 'broken'.
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[1:21] <Kamilion> have you tried a different power adapter? (Making an assumption here that you overloaded your powerbrick for a bit too long and one of the solder joints weakened or something)
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[1:21] <chars6> Kamilion: i've tried XBian and OpenElec so far
[1:22] <Kamilion> I got a pi2 not too long ago and was messing with uboot for a while, so I've gotten a bit familiar with it's behavior
[1:22] <chars6> Kamilion: the adapter i was using was .7A i swapped it out for a 2A one and no difference. i did only try it once though and i forget the specifics of which OS/sd card i was using
[1:23] <Kamilion> yeah, -- I was using a samsung phone charger
[1:23] <Kamilion> had all kinds of weird problems
[1:23] <Kamilion> went and bought a 10 watt power brick from centralcomputers for $10 and all the problems went away
[1:23] <Kamilion> says 2.1 amps on one port and 1 amp on the other
[1:23] <chars6> Kamilion: from what i have read, ACT led deals with sd card problems, but i don't see an entry anywhere for what continuously blinks green means
[1:24] <Kamilion> though I'm pretty sure it's just a 3A 5V switching regulator
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[1:24] <Kamilion> so you're seeing the GPU wiggle some pins there as it goes through it's bootloader
[1:25] <Kamilion> and that's correct -- normally when it can't find the SD or something, it blinks a few times, goes solid for about two seconds, then goes out and doens't come back until it's power cycled.
[1:25] <chars6> Kamilion: i'm downloading latest raspbian right now
[1:25] <Kamilion> so the blinking is probably indicating some kind of internal problem, which doesn't sound good
[1:26] <chars6> yeah, if i don't figure this out by tomorrow i guess i return it
[1:26] <Kamilion> got anything to do power monitoring?
[1:26] <chars6> i'm not sure what broke the last one. i was away for a few days and the power went off. everything else i own survived though
[1:26] <chars6> Kamilion: not really
[1:26] <Kamilion> ahhhhhh
[1:27] <Kamilion> Hm. You should be on hydroelectric power up there
[1:27] <chars6> i have 3 now. the original version 1, then my old 2 and the 2 i got in the mail today
[1:27] <Kamilion> which is normally pretty tightly regulated
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[1:28] <chars6> Kamilion: no, it was some renovation in the apt above me that killed the electricity
[1:28] <Kamilion> Hm... breakers getting flipped shouldn't toast anything normally
[1:28] <Kamilion> and something like that normally doesn't cause a surge on reconnect
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[1:29] <chars6> Kamilion: plus, i turn it off by unplugging it half the time anyway
[1:29] <Kamilion> got it on a surge protected power strip, at least?
[1:29] <chars6> how many amps should the power adapter put out, ideally?
[1:29] <Kamilion> those things are really only good for lightning strikes
[1:29] <chars6> yeah, it's on a surge protector
[1:29] <Kamilion> so, there's a couple specs there
[1:30] <Kamilion> USB 1.1 and 2.0 specify 500ma
[1:30] <Kamilion> apple went and did some magic with the inner two data pins being pulled to some paticular value with resistors
[1:30] <Kamilion> which signals 1A and 2.1A availability
[1:30] <Kamilion> other manufacuturers followed suit like samsung
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[1:31] <Kamilion> so far as I know, 2.1A is probably the spec you want, and as it's easily found as 'ipad charger', it's common to run across everywhere.
[1:31] <Kamilion> but, uh, if you really want a brute
[1:32] <chars6> Kamilion: wait.. is this for the pi1 or pi2? https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/
[1:32] <Kamilion> http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Desktop-Charger-PowerIQ-Technology/dp/B00GTGETFG <--- everyone I've gotten these for has loved them and refuses to give them up
[1:33] <Kamilion> chars6: Both, it contains a pi2 kernel as well as a pi1 kernel, and the rootfs is built for a pi1's armv6, which the armv7 in the pi2 has no issues with executing.
[1:33] <chars6> Kamilion: oh, nice
[1:33] <Kamilion> it's really the kernel that's doing the work, on a pi2, the CPU spec is new enough to meet most distro's minimum requirements of an ARM7.
[1:33] <chars6> that's handy
[1:33] <Kamilion> the pi1 did not, that's why rasbian's around
[1:33] <Kamilion> a build for the arm6 specifically.
[1:34] <Berg> i use something similar to this from this aussie stor http://www.bunnings.com.au/deta-single-power-point-with-dual-usb-charger_p4331192
[1:34] <Kamilion> also why you see a lot of arch being used
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[1:34] <Berg> hi im berg and i eat mango's from my tree you can see from space
[1:35] <Kamilion> chars6: the more annoying thing is that most of the big distros that have ARM builds have an arm7 minimum requirement. Like ubuntu. So, the pi1 won't run any of the ubuntu images...
[1:35] <Kamilion> https://ubuntu-mate.org/raspberry-pi/ <--- but the pi2 runs them fine. :)
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[1:36] <Kamilion> there's probably a bunch of RPM based distros too, but I don't like RPM so I don't track them at all.
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[1:39] <Kamilion> chars6: http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#Green_LED_blinks_in_a_specific_pattern and the blinking does not stop at all?
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[1:40] <chars6> Kamilion: yeah, i found that page. it just keeps blinking green at a steady pace
[1:41] <chars6> raspbian is done, about to write the image
[1:41] <Kamilion> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00S2HJAUE/ <--- I highly suggest having something like this around
[1:41] <chars6> i looked for the Micron logo, couldnt find it
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[1:48] <mattrichardson> Should any HDMI switch work for switching a monitor between my MacBook Pro and Raspberry Pi?
[1:48] <mattrichardson> Looks like some are just 1080p, so I guess not.
[1:49] <Kamilion> anything that's hdmi 1.2a compliant
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[1:49] <Kamilion> I'd suggest the monoprice switchers.
[1:49] <Kamilion> they have one or two "3D/4K" switchers
[1:50] <chars6> i think i ran dd on a non-existing file and i'm too scared to cancel it
[1:50] <mattrichardson> thanks Kamilion
[1:50] <mattrichardson> It would throw up an error if you did it on a non-existing file
[1:51] <chars6> mattrichardson: yeah, that's the thing. i tab autocompleted, but i don't see the file in that directory
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[1:51] <Kamilion> mattrichardson: I've got their 4x2 matrix switcher and it's been lovely, but I'm only doing 1200p
[1:51] <chars6> mattrichardson: hmm, it shows up from ls in the terminal, just not in the GUI file browser
[1:51] <Kamilion> f5 to reload the view?
[1:51] <chars6> Kamilion: i tried that
[1:52] <chars6> i'll just let it finish and see what happens
[1:52] <chars6> maybe, say if it isn't done in another 10 mins, cancel te command
[1:52] <mattrichardson> Kamilion thanks for the reco. I'll check it out.
[1:53] <Kamilion> http://www.monoprice.com/Product?p_id=6415
[1:53] <Kamilion> I think this is the good one
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[1:56] <Kamilion> http://www.monoprice.com/Product?p_id=5312 <--- and this is the one I have.
[1:56] <Kamilion> I like it cause it can be controlled from a serial port.
[1:58] <Kamilion> http://www.monoprice.com/Product?p_id=6166 <--- also cause they sell replacement remotes for like $2
[1:58] <mattrichardson> Kamilion thanks again. I'm wondering how my laptop would behave with it. I presume if I switch the input away from the laptop, it would be seen by the laptop as unplugging (so it would move all my windows to the main screen).
[1:59] <Kamilion> nope, ONLY if you assign the input to the second output
[1:59] <mattrichardson> Kamilion OK, good to know.
[1:59] <Kamilion> then the display EDID changes and windows freaks out and redetects everything
[2:00] <Kamilion> the box will clone the EDID of the monitor on each output when it powers up
[2:00] <mattrichardson> I guess they thought of my very concern.
[2:00] <Kamilion> this is important to note because if you disconnect the monitors and connect other ones without a power cycle, everything freaks out
[2:00] <mattrichardson> That totally makes sense.
[2:01] <Kamilion> yeah, there's been a specification in monitors since the VGA ports to dedicate two pins, one for 5V100ma power, the other for i2c communication. In practice, there's a 512 byte rom chip in every monitor that contains the table of resolutions it supports, called the EDID, Enhanced Display Identification
[2:02] <Kamilion> your pi also does this too
[2:02] <chars6> nope. trying out raspbian did not help. i'll have to return this pi
[2:02] <Kamilion> chars6: sucks. better luck with the next one.
[2:03] <chars6> Kamilion: yeah, thanks for trying
[2:03] <Kamilion> because of that 5V pin on VGA/HDMI, the rom chip in the monitor can be 'active' even when the rest of the display isn't plugged into power at all.
[2:04] <Kamilion> and the PC still knows 'I have a samsung SDH3000-2034b connected on HDMI2 supporting 720P'
[2:04] <mattrichardson> Kamilion Ah! OK, that totally makes sense. I wondered about that before.
[2:05] <Kamilion> there's also a neat trick you can do to PCs if you don't want to plug in a monitor and it won't start up without one
[2:05] <Kamilion> one of those little rom chips costs about 15 cents, and a VGA connector with pins is about a dollar.
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[2:06] <Kamilion> you can use a raspberry pi to program an EDID table into the chip, wire three pins to the VGA shell, and instant fake monitor.
[2:06] <Kamilion> lots of people need something like this when they do 3D rendering on a bunch of PCs at home, for instance
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[2:06] <Kamilion> they sell commercial things that do this on ebay and amazon for between $20 and $100
[2:07] <Kamilion> because nobody realizes how simple it actually is. :)
[2:07] <mattrichardson> Good trick to know!
[2:07] <Kamilion> http://www.amazon.com/CompuLab-4K-Display-Emulator-fit-Headless/dp/B00JKFTYA8/
[2:08] <Kamilion> here's one of the less expensive ones that says it supports high resolutions.
[2:08] <Kamilion> Great for remote desktop
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[2:09] <Kamilion> so the trick with windows remote desktop -- set up autologin so the computer gets to the desktop (with a real 3D GPU backing Aero) then remote desktop and join that session with remote desktop. All the 3D programs will still work.
[2:10] <Kamilion> if you just leave the PC sitting at the login screen and try to use remote desktop, it will make a new 'fake' desktop without a GPU behind it
[2:10] <Kamilion> and then kick you off when the person at the PC tries to log in
[2:10] <Kamilion> Computer quirks, man. I tell ya.
[2:10] * Kamilion wipes off his brow in an exaggerated motion
[2:11] <Kamilion> incendentally, if you want to use your pi as a really fast remote desktop client, you'd have to do the above to get good performance on like youtube and games and stuff.
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[2:12] <mattrichardson> All of this is very good to know. Thanks again.
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[2:55] <NedScott> hmmm
[2:55] <NedScott> I need to make nubs
[2:55] <NedScott> joystick nubs
[2:55] <NedScott> the normal ones on the 3DS and PSP joysticks are slightly too tall
[2:56] <NedScott> heck, I guess I could just glue a circle of something on there
[2:56] <NedScott> maybe a button so it's concave
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[3:04] <exonormal> ask niston, he cud give you good hints
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[3:14] <Berg> if you add a command to rc.local does it need sudo?
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[3:15] <Flynnn> I hacked a usb cable to be plug into 5v and gnd pins on a breadboard
[3:15] <Flynnn> I'm wondering, what is the maximum voltage I can supply this way?
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[3:16] <Flynnn> It's a raspberry pi 2
[3:17] <abnormal> as long as you don't go over 5V, period.
[3:18] <Flynnn> abnormal: ahh, darn
[3:18] <Flynnn> right, here's my problem:
[3:18] <Flynnn> when I supply exactly 5v, the raspberry pi refuses to boot up
[3:18] <Flynnn> well, sometimes it boots up
[3:19] <Flynnn> but the red light flickers and it turns on and off
[3:19] <abnormal> how are you feeding the supply?
[3:19] <Flynnn> through breadboard, which is probably why I'm losing some voltage
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[3:19] <abnormal> yes, not a wise way to do it
[3:20] <Flynnn> so I'm gonna need to solder up a direct power unit, and plug that into my 12V supply?
[3:20] <abnormal> always get the correct PSU for the pi.. always...
[3:20] <abnormal> no, 12 V will fry the pi
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[3:20] <Flynnn> I'd be running it through a 12V->5VDCDC switching reg
[3:21] <abnormal> ahh.. ok... hea... no, not wise to do it that way... too risky
[3:21] <Flynnn> only way to do it
[3:21] <Flynnn> this is an embedded project
[3:22] <abnormal> I see... then you need niston
[3:22] <Flynnn> no keyboard, mouse, anything, just i2c, ethernet, and power
[3:22] <Flynnn> what is niston?
[3:22] <abnormal> he's a pi guru
[3:22] <Flynnn> ahh
[3:22] <abnormal> he's in here
[3:22] <abnormal> !ping niston
[3:22] <Flynnn> !ping Flynnn
[3:23] <Flynnn> I'm gonna try directly connecting my pi to 5v not through the breadboard
[3:23] <Flynnn> using alligator clips, but oh well
[3:23] <abnormal> wise decision
[3:23] <Flynnn> well I can't do it permanently
[3:23] <Flynnn> I'm just gonna find out what the actual cutoff voltage is for stability
[3:25] <Flynnn> weird thing is that the whole system used to work
[3:25] <abnormal> well, the pi only needs 700mA, but you need to supply it alone... (no interference from outside supplies)
[3:25] <Flynnn> but I was probably getting lucky with marginal voltages
[3:25] <Flynnn> oh, hmm, I have a multitude of other devices on the same 5v supply
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[3:26] <abnormal> you want the pi to have at least 4.8 to max of 5.2V
[3:26] <abnormal> under load
[3:26] <Flynnn> ahh, see, my supply gives exactly 5.0
[3:26] <Flynnn> which seems to be below the cutoff
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[3:28] <abnormal> I always keep pi supply separate from other things that need supply.. I have a Uno and a QuickStart. so I supply each one separately.. it makes the pi safe.
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[3:28] <Flynnn> yikes, I dunno if I have enough space for three converters
[3:29] <Flynnn> right, well, it runs fine on 5V directly
[3:29] <abnormal> one of my pi's has a piface hat.
[3:29] <Flynnn> so, it must be the breadboard
[3:29] <Flynnn> that or other devices
[3:29] <abnormal> yes
[3:29] <Flynnn> I'm gonna run some voltage tests right at the pi when powered from the board,
[3:29] <abnormal> I can't see what you doing so I don't know.
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[3:30] <Flynnn> Arduino atmega2560, raspberry pi, a multitude of sensors, some i2c stuff, and a PWM signal generator
[3:30] <abnormal> ok you got a load of stuff there.. lol
[3:30] <Flynnn> yeah heh
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[3:30] <Flynnn> I wouldn't think any of them would create any interference though
[3:31] <abnormal> if it was me, I'd get the piface to protect the pi
[3:31] <Flynnn> not to mention, the DCDC converter has filter caps
[3:31] <abnormal> or the Gertboard
[3:31] <Flynnn> so any kind of noise in the line should be dealt with
[3:31] <Flynnn> Yeah, I have barely enough room for just a bare pi
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[3:32] <abnormal> what I am worried about is backfeed from all that stuff
[3:32] <Flynnn> what do you mean by backfeed?
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[3:33] <abnormal> well if you got something hooked to 12V and using pi to signal whatever you are connected to, it could backfeed in to pi unexpectedly
[3:33] <abnormal> and will brick the pi
[3:33] <WACOMalt> Hey, anyone currently using the wolfson audio card on a Pi2? I cant seem to get it to work
[3:33] <abnormal> oh you bought one?
[3:33] <WACOMalt> yeah
[3:34] <Flynnn> are you talking about overdraw, noise, reverse voltage?
[3:34] <abnormal> ok you need to do the apt-get update, WACOMalt
[3:34] <Flynnn> I mean, I suppose that these chips could frack with my switching regulator, though I hope not
[3:34] <WACOMalt> oh ok
[3:34] <abnormal> yeh, Flynnn
[3:34] <WACOMalt> it will detect it and get what it needs automatically?
[3:34] <Flynnn> it's got signal filtering, so, it should be good on that front
[3:35] <abnormal> yes, WACOMalt
[3:35] <abnormal> ok, Flynnn
[3:35] <abnormal> just be very careful, Flynnn
[3:35] <Flynnn> Reverse voltage is impossible, noise is not going to do anything the raspberrypi doesn't cause, only thing I am at risk for is overdraw, but I believe I selected the right max current draw
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[3:35] <abnormal> ok
[3:36] <abnormal> I am not there to observe what you are doing.
[3:36] <sasha> Hai, having a bit of a problem with how my Pi interoperates with physics
[3:36] <sasha> When I hook up a switch like this (http://raspi.tv/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/RasPi.TV-RPi.GPIO-input-output1_bb-1024x746.png), it keeps the switch always pushed/closed
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[3:37] <abnormal> prolly need a resistor
[3:37] <sasha> However when I don't use any resistor, there aren't any issues - what do I do? I checked the resistors and they are of the right resistance. My circuit also looks like it's hooked up correctly.
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[3:37] <sasha> abnormal: I am observing this behaviour with the resistors as shown in that image
[3:38] <Flynnn> sasha: sounds like your puller resistors are fighting
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[3:38] <abnormal> ok, then the ans is I do not know
[3:38] <Flynnn> sasha: I believe the pi has pull-ups enabled by default, let me check your diagramn
[3:38] <sasha> Flynnn: could they be in the wrong ordeR?
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[3:38] <abnormal> maybe
[3:38] <Flynnn> sasha: order? almost certainly not, but polarity? yes
[3:38] <sasha> Of resistors?
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[3:39] <Flynnn> Yeah, you have a pull down right there
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[3:39] <sasha> Oh and another thing I just noticed, I'm using 3v3 instead of 5v for the source - is this still ok?
[3:39] <Flynnn> You're almost certainly fighting the pi's builtin pull-up
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[3:39] <abnormal> in most cases, correct
[3:39] <Flynnn> though, I find it interesting that it works fine when disconnected
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[3:40] <Flynnn> Yeah, using 5v is actually dangerous for input pins, so 3.3v is the way to go
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[3:40] <sasha> (just checked with 5 - same result)
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[3:41] <Flynnn> sasha: what's your code?
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[3:42] <sasha> Flynnn: http://pastebin.com/JRhyFjBP
[3:43] <Flynnn> oh, you specifically set it to pullup mode
[3:43] <sasha> oh
[3:43] <sasha> well I just copied some code from somewhere
[3:43] <Flynnn> the circuit shouldn't work at all in pullup mode
[3:43] <Flynnn> when you disconnect your pulldown resistor, it should go unresponsive
[3:43] <Flynnn> can you try that for me real quick?
[3:44] <sasha> when I disconnect the 10k resistor, it goes unresponsive
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[3:44] <Flynnn> good
[3:44] <Flynnn> very very good
[3:45] <Flynnn> okay, just making sure we aren't breaking the laws of physics hehe
[3:45] <sasha> hehe
[3:45] <Flynnn> keep your resistor removed and just change "GPIO.PUD_UP" to GPIO.PUD_DOWN"
[3:45] <Flynnn> that'll fix your circuit
[3:45] <Flynnn> or, it should, anyways
[3:45] <sasha> nop
[3:46] <Flynnn> awe
[3:46] <sasha> Tried it both with and without the 10k resistor
[3:46] <sasha> But is it that horrible to use it without resistors?
[3:46] <Flynnn> it won't work at all without resistors
[3:46] <sasha> Well empirical evidence proved otherwise
[3:46] <Flynnn> you are interpreting the evidence wrong
[3:46] <Flynnn> there are always resistors
[3:47] <Flynnn> they are just usually builtin
[3:47] <sasha> hmm
[3:47] <Flynnn> I actually *want* you to remove the resistor and change the builtin resistor to pullup mode
[3:47] <Flynnn> can you please make a new diagram of your circuit without the 10k resistor, and show me your updated code?
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[3:49] <sasha> interesting
[3:49] <Flynnn> now, if you are working with integrated circuits, resistors often aren't needed
[3:49] <sasha> this works http://sprunge.us/dWDh without the 10k resistor
[3:49] <sasha> (note the change from false to true)
[3:50] <Flynnn> change the true back to false
[3:50] <Flynnn> you'll see it still responds
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[3:50] <Flynnn> it just notices when the button is up instead of down
[3:50] <Flynnn> otherwise, that code should work!
[3:50] <Flynnn> since you have GPIO.PUD_DOWN, it is now using its builtin pulldown resistor
[3:51] <sasha> but do I still need the 1k resistor?
[3:51] <Flynnn> weeeelllll
[3:51] <Flynnn> I don't know actually
[3:51] <Flynnn> depends on the equivalent circuit diagram of GPIO pins one sec
[3:51] <Flynnn> http://www.mosaic-industries.com/embedded-systems/_media/microcontroller-projects/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-circuit-gpio-input-pins.png
[3:52] <Flynnn> hmm, never noticed there was hysteresis on that, I'll have to try it out
[3:52] <Flynnn> yes, you want to keep your resistor, there are no series resistors in that
[3:52] <Flynnn> now, it might be using FET technology, in which case the resistors aren't needed
[3:52] <Flynnn> but if it's using TTL, then no resistor will fry your everything
[3:52] <sasha> ok, and so now the 10k resistor is definitely not needed?
[3:53] <Flynnn> it *is* needed, but it's builtin :)
[3:53] <Flynnn> so, the real answer is, no, not needed
[3:53] <Flynnn> specifically, you don't need to add it yourself
[3:53] <Flynnn> raspberry pi already adds it
[3:53] <sasha> So, 1k = needed, 10k = not needed
[3:53] <sasha> Is this correct?
[3:53] <Flynnn> yes
[3:53] <sasha> Wünderbar
[3:53] <sasha> And is this safe for productionish use?
[3:53] <Flynnn> the 1k is needed in series to prevent over-current to your input pin.
[3:54] <Flynnn> and, I mean, honestly, the likelihood of RPi using TTL is slim
[3:54] <Flynnn> in fact, actually, it can;t possibly be using TTL
[3:54] <sasha> By that I mean I won't have pull requests with people telling me how stupid I am for wiring something this way
[3:54] <Flynnn> if it were using TTL, then you wouldn't need the pull down
[3:54] <Flynnn> I think you can get away with not having the resistor there
[3:54] <Flynnn> (the 1k)
[3:55] <Flynnn> I don't know which would be viewed as stupid, not having a resistor, or having one
[3:55] <Flynnn> might even depend on the electrical engineer you talk to
[3:55] <sasha> So tldr of last 20 minutes: yes and no
[3:55] <Flynnn> pretty much
[3:56] <Flynnn> 10k tldr: Actually yes, but with programming, no.
[3:56] <Flynnn> 1k tldr: technically not, but good practice is debatable
[3:56] <sasha> So with my current programming it's a no?
[3:56] <sasha> Ok I'll leave it in then
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[3:56] <Flynnn> with your current programming, you don't need the 10k
[3:57] <Flynnn> your programming doesn't change whether or not you need the 1k
[3:59] <WACOMalt> abnormal, I did sudo apt-get update, but nothing seems different
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[4:00] <WACOMalt> also I got "W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/vivid/universe/binary-armhf/Packages 404 Not Found"
[4:01] <abnormal> ok, do apt-get update fix--missing
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[4:02] <WACOMalt> E: The update command takes no arguments
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[4:03] <WACOMalt> just tried upgrade --fix-missing
[4:03] <WACOMalt> nothing to update it says
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[4:04] <abnormal> ok, wake up [Saint] or niston, they can help you with it... look in the pi forums...
[4:04] <WACOMalt> roger
[4:04] <WACOMalt> thanks for trying to help
[4:05] <abnormal> yw
[4:05] <abnormal> I'm sure there is a solution to that, but I do not know it...
[4:05] <WACOMalt> oh god
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[4:05] <WACOMalt> it sounds like the wolfson card is only for model A and B
[4:05] <abnormal> now what?
[4:05] <WACOMalt> T_T
[4:05] <abnormal> oh ooooo
[4:05] <abnormal> sorry
[4:06] <WACOMalt> which means I'm out $50+
[4:06] <WACOMalt> sonuva... youd think that would be on the TOP of the product description... not the bottom
[4:06] <abnormal> send it to me and I'll give yo the funds
[4:06] <WACOMalt> yeah?
[4:06] <WACOMalt> I thought the consistent GPIO pins on all models were the same pins?
[4:06] <abnormal> told you there was two models of that board
[4:07] <abnormal> no
[4:07] <WACOMalt> I can only find one wolfson
[4:07] <WACOMalt> there's some Cirrus logic and some others
[4:07] <abnormal> look in the forums
[4:08] <Flynnn> I love how the raspberry pi 2 is still "on sale" for 35
[4:08] <abnormal> somewhere in the pi forums shows the pin layout difference... then you can compare.
[4:08] <abnormal> lol
[4:08] <abnormal> me too
[4:08] <abnormal> lol
[4:09] <WACOMalt> would this work if I were to reorder and resolder the header?
[4:09] <WACOMalt> or is this a lost cause
[4:09] <abnormal> it's a lost cause if you removed the header.
[4:09] <Flynnn> WacoMalt: well, you still need to get drivers, etc
[4:09] <Flynnn> and it sounds like you are having issues with that bit
[4:10] <WACOMalt> well I'm probably having issues with the whole thing. pinout is different
[4:10] <WACOMalt> screw it. I'll just cut my losses and overnight a PiDAC+
[4:10] <Flynnn> as opposed to this fancy audio driver?
[4:10] <WACOMalt> I do regret paying the fastest possible shipping overseas for the wolfson T_T
[4:11] <abnormal> wow......... sorry
[4:11] <Flynnn> yikes :(
[4:11] <WACOMalt> Flynnn, eh?
[4:11] <Flynnn> wolfson
[4:11] <Flynnn> your next message answered my question
[4:11] <WACOMalt> I mean. if its feasible to make this one work... without re building the whole board
[4:12] <WACOMalt> but I think it really isnt an option
[4:12] <Flynnn> well, just thinking about the effort involved in that
[4:12] <Flynnn> how much is the pidac+?
[4:12] <WACOMalt> $50
[4:12] <Flynnn> with or without shipping?
[4:12] <WACOMalt> without
[4:13] <Flynnn> damn
[4:13] <WACOMalt> Looks like the wolfson one got bought out by Cirrus logic
[4:13] <WACOMalt> and that new board is the new wolfson basically
[4:13] <WACOMalt> for B+ and Pi2
[4:13] <Flynnn> okay, so
[4:13] <Flynnn> for $50, you get:
[4:13] <Flynnn> Updated board which is *known* to be compatible with latest technology, and likely has a far more active userbase online for help
[4:14] <WACOMalt> which one is that? the Cirrus?
[4:14] <Flynnn> wait, what? oh dear
[4:14] <Flynnn> what I am trying to say is this:
[4:14] <Flynnn> is $50 worth the effort you will likely put in to fix this wolfson
[4:14] <Flynnn> especially if the wolfson is outdated tech
[4:15] <WACOMalt> well, knowing my skill it would be a lost cause anyways
[4:15] <WACOMalt> I'll just see if I can get a return. if not.. whatever
[4:15] <abnormal> send it to me.. I have use for it
[4:15] <Flynnn> not al ost cause, a learning experience :) but if you are not confident in this thing, then it will take you probably many days
[4:15] <Flynnn> and, it may or may not be possible without months of work, depending upon driver compatibility
[4:15] <WACOMalt> yeeeeah
[4:16] <WACOMalt> no thanks :/
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[4:16] <Flynnn> then 50 dollars to save days, likely weeks, possibly months, and perhaps even years of time!
[4:16] <WACOMalt> dang though... I also have an enclosure shipping for this
[4:16] <Flynnn> gee
[4:16] <WACOMalt> I wonder if the cirrus (newer and easily compatible wolfson for Pi2) has the same footprint
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[4:18] <WACOMalt> hmmm if I opt for the newer wolfson/cirrus then it may actually fit my enclosure. I think its cheaper too
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[4:27] <WACOMalt> oh. well... cirrus isnt compatible with Pi2 either
[4:27] <WACOMalt> PiDAC+ it is
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[4:35] <Flynnn> well, finally found an issue
[4:36] <Flynnn> the arduino is somehow seriously downdrawing my voltages...
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[5:00] <abnormal> is it hooked to it's own PSU?
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[5:20] <abnormal> that's pretty absurd nick you got there, omfgtora
[5:20] <abnormal> this is a family oriented channel
[5:20] <omfgtora> yeah, i had a few HDD problems
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[5:22] <omfgtora> fsck is a good command to get to know
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[5:24] <Apocx> is it possible (feasible?) to have an ssh server with thousands of different public/private key pairs? i.e. everytime a new device (raspberry pi) is setup, the server generates a new unique key pair for it so it can communicate with the server via ssh? or would that cause issues you think
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[5:27] <Apocx> nevermind I think I'm going about it the wrong way
[5:28] <Pwnna> where do you guys get your raspis in canada?
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[5:32] <WACOMalt> I cant find any place that has PiDAC+ in stock. Anyone know where else to look? I hope its not discontinued :(
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[5:34] <OneM_Industries> Heyo! New user here, what OS would you recommend for an old 2011 Pi that I was given?
[5:34] <warpie> Raspbian
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[5:39] <WACOMalt> or perhaps arch if you are a new user to Pi, but not to linux
[5:39] <WACOMalt> as its very very optimized
[5:39] <WACOMalt> Does arch do pi builds any more?
[5:41] <warpie> yes
[5:43] <warpie> hmmm that's funny, even PiDAC+ don't show in the pi site, sheesh
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[5:47] <WACOMalt> where would it show?
[5:47] <WACOMalt> do they list all available accessories?
[5:48] <warpie> dunno... first I have heard of it... can't find it
[5:51] <warpie> good nite, gotta go.
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[8:07] <freezevee> can anyone please help https://github.com/TMRh20/RF24Network/issues/54 ?
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[8:46] <freezevee> anyone here ?
[8:46] <freezevee> anyone into RF24's ? https://github.com/TMRh20/RF24Network/issues/54
[8:46] <SyncYourDogmas> I am
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[8:47] <freezevee> you're obviously here but have you any idea about RF24s?
[8:48] <SyncYourDogmas> Networking in general yes rf24s no sorry
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[8:48] <SyncYourDogmas> May I suggest checking on the CLI
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[8:53] <ShorTie> is that your base.cpp from scratch like ??
[8:53] <freezevee> ShorTie: what do you mean ?
[8:53] <ShorTie> did you write it
[8:54] <freezevee> yes
[8:54] <freezevee> I migrated from arduino(base)<=>arduino(node) to rpi(base)<=>arduino(node)
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[8:54] <freezevee> the arduino/arduino communication is tested and working 100%
[8:55] <freezevee> something I should have missed in the migration or (less possibly) to be a bug
[8:55] <ShorTie> how does the rf24 hook up to the arduino/rpi, by spi ??
[8:55] <freezevee> ShorTie: http://blog.carr3r.com/post/raspberry-pi-b-and-arduino-talking-through-nrf24l01-modules/
[8:56] <freezevee> only used the schematic from here
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[8:57] <ShorTie> whelp, ya that is spi
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[8:58] <freezevee> ShorTie: have you been working with nRF24s ?
[8:58] <ShorTie> nop, just some rfm69hw's
[9:00] <ShorTie> but the way i see it, you need some wiringpi/spi incorporated into your base.cpp
[9:00] <freezevee> ShorTie: it seems that it's being done here RF24 radio(RPI_V2_GPIO_P1_15, RPI_V2_GPIO_P1_24, BCM2835_SPI_SPEED_8MHZ);
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[9:02] <ShorTie> where is that ??
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[9:04] <ShorTie> did you enable spi in raspi-config and have it start at boot ??
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[9:09] <freezevee> ShorTie: hmmm what ?
[9:09] <freezevee> ShorTie: I have no idea
[9:09] <freezevee> ShorTie: isn't it enabled by default ?
[9:10] <ShorTie> No
[9:10] <freezevee> ShorTie: the thing is that the module works and it scans the 2.4 range for other clients so I suppose everything works fine
[9:10] <freezevee> from a hardware perpective
[9:10] <freezevee> the problem seems to be on the authentication of the packets
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[9:10] <freezevee> someone did setAutoAck set to false and it worked for him, which I didn't try yet
[9:11] <ShorTie> do a 'lsmod', is there a spi in there ??
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[9:15] <ShorTie> like 'BCM2835_SPI' or sumfin
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[9:21] <freezevee> ShorTie: snd_bcm2835 21247 0
[9:22] <ShorTie> no, that is sound, see the snd
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[9:23] <freezevee> spi_bcm2708 8865 0
[9:23] <freezevee> this is the only one with an "spi" in front
[9:24] <ShorTie> �k�� ��K��
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[9:27] <SyncYourDogmas> Have you tried packet sniffing?
[9:28] <freezevee> SyncYourDogmas: how ? Wireshark won't work
[9:28] <freezevee> SyncYourDogmas: that could be perfect If I was able to
[9:28] <SyncYourDogmas> Monitor mode from a different machine
[9:29] <ShorTie> you using a rpi2 by chance ??
[9:29] <SyncYourDogmas> You could run tcpdump, surely?
[9:30] <freezevee> an RPI B+
[9:30] <freezevee> SyncYourDogmas: I don't know how to do this but I would love to
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[9:31] <freezevee> SyncYourDogmas: but how could I monitor nRF24's traffic ? It's different from Wifi
[9:32] <tenemu> The 'channel rules' and 'getting help' links don't work. I'm gonna ask questions without reading the rules!!
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[9:33] <tenemu> Question: How do I know how many inputs a 'multi input' touchscreen can handle?
[9:33] <SyncYourDogmas> You can just measure all link layer stuff. Is it standard protocol's?
[9:33] <freezevee> SyncYourDogmas: I suppose so
[9:34] <freezevee> SyncYourDogmas: can Wifi monitor the nRF24 packets ?
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[9:35] <SyncYourDogmas> Tcpdump -any src net not -XXX -w captures
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[9:36] <freezevee> I didn't know this existed
[9:36] <freezevee> and thanks for the knowledge share
[9:37] <SyncYourDogmas> You can read it back from wireshark. No worries. Not entirely sure what nRF24 is tbh..
[9:39] <SyncYourDogmas> tcpdump -i any -U -XXX -s0 not src net -w - | tee -a /mnt/ssdtera/allCaptures.pcap | tcpdump -r - >> /mnt/ssdtera/allIncoming.txt
[9:39] <SyncYourDogmas> Is what I use fwiw
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[9:48] <freezevee> SyncYourDogmas: thank you
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[9:51] <SyncYourDogmas> Ty for introducing me to nrf
[9:54] <freezevee> SyncYourDogmas: it's a great device
[9:55] <freezevee> I measured about ~40m between 2 of them
[9:55] <freezevee> running on 2.5V
[9:55] <freezevee> the cheapest ones
[9:55] <freezevee> and 250Kbps
[9:56] <freezevee> SyncYourDogmas: shouldn't I see an spi device inside /dev ?
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[9:57] <SyncYourDogmas> 40m is great
[9:58] <SyncYourDogmas> This is on a pi yeah?
[10:00] <freezevee> while it was on two arduinos
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[10:00] <freezevee> now it's an arduino and a rPi B+
[10:00] <freezevee> which I am trying to connect
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[10:00] <SyncYourDogmas> You should though yeah. Cat /var/log/syslog | grep
[10:01] <SyncYourDogmas> Spi
[10:01] <SyncYourDogmas> To possibly find device name..
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[10:06] <SyncYourDogmas> Why not use adhoc WiFi?power concerns?
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[10:12] <SyncYourDogmas> Or just it's about the hardware aspect of it...
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[10:15] <freezevee> SyncYourDogmas: yes, I have calculated that with 2*AA batteries it will last for more than a year
[10:15] <freezevee> wifi is much power thirsty
[10:16] <freezevee> anyone with nRF24 experience that could help ? http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/34593/raspberry-pi-does-not-receive-nrf24-payload
[10:16] <SyncYourDogmas> That's really bloody impressive
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[10:17] <ShorTie> hmmm, you know current goes up as voltage goes down
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[10:18] <freezevee> SyncYourDogmas: it's interesting :
[10:18] <ShorTie> your saying a nrf24 will last a year on 2 AA batteries ??
[10:18] <freezevee> Aug 19 06:06:22 raspberrypi kernel: [ 410.880737] spi_master spi0: DMA transfer timed out
[10:18] <freezevee> Aug 19 06:06:22 raspberrypi kernel: [ 410.880800] spi_master spi0: failed to transfer one message from queue
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[10:19] <freezevee> ShorTie: I suppose you have seen that https://maniacbug.wordpress.com/2011/10/19/sensor-node/
[10:19] <SyncYourDogmas> freezevee: sounds like the buffer in Linux is too big
[10:20] <freezevee> ShorTie: I have it sending data every 30 seconds and in 7 days the power consumption has gone from 2.58 to 2.57Volts measured with a multimeter
[10:20] <SyncYourDogmas> It's waiting for more data, and timing out
[10:20] <freezevee> SyncYourDogmas: Aug 19 06:06:22 raspberrypi kernel: [ 410.881108] fb_ili9340 spi0.0: fbtft_update_display: write_vmem failed to update display buffer
[10:20] <freezevee> and then goes on again
[10:22] <SyncYourDogmas> You can flush sockets, can you do similar to this? Or perhaps close the file handle to device
[10:23] <SyncYourDogmas> Forcing OS to send....?
[10:23] <freezevee> no idea what that means
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[10:23] <freezevee> seems like a bug of the driver ?
[10:24] <SyncYourDogmas> Could be yeah
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[10:26] <SyncYourDogmas> But also kernel buffer might be waiting for more data until it sends it..if you close reference to device might force it to send data that's waiting. Although tbh this is more low level than I like (sockets)
[10:26] <sasha> Is there a way to loop over a bunch of GPIO pins to catch events without having to individually write out a function for each GPIO?
[10:27] <sasha> here is a pastebin of something that I'm trying to do http://sprunge.us/OeCX
[10:27] <ShorTie> sounds like the spi stuff is not right in that rf24 library
[10:28] <SyncYourDogmas> sasha: dictionary?
[10:29] <sasha> hmm and how would I do that?
[10:31] <SyncYourDogmas> I don't know gpio pins well..but what's the input and output?
[10:31] <sasha> SyncYourDogmas: the input are just some buttons connected to the gpio
[10:32] <sasha> The output will eventually be fed into a tornado webserver, but now it's just printing it
[10:33] <SyncYourDogmas> map = dict.fromlist(pins)
[10:34] <SyncYourDogmas> Function = map[pin]?
[10:34] <SyncYourDogmas> Sorry that's bollocks
[10:35] <SyncYourDogmas> You just want to know which of pin was pressed?
[10:36] <sasha> Which ones get pressed in real time
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[10:38] <SyncYourDogmas> Pass input as key to dictionary, value can be a function. Constantly loop checking for input
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[10:41] <SyncYourDogmas> Or write an event handler that checks which pin it was. For multiple, turn into sets and take difference?
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[10:44] <SyncYourDogmas> I'm overcomplicating things. Why not just
[10:45] <SyncYourDogmas> If input_state:
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[10:47] <SyncYourDogmas> For p in pins: Pin = pins.index(p)
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[10:48] <SyncYourDogmas> So position 4 in list is pin 13 say.
[10:53] <SyncYourDogmas> I need to sleep. p would be the pin anyway.
[10:54] <SyncYourDogmas> Sasha
[10:55] <SyncYourDogmas> What's wrong with your code you showed?
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[11:09] <sasha> It crashes after the first button is pressed, and it also doesn't appear to pick up every button push
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[11:09] <sasha> Also appears to use a lot of cpu
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[11:14] <SyncYourDogmas> If you want to save CPU it needs threads I think
[11:15] <SyncYourDogmas> While not input: wait()
[11:16] <SyncYourDogmas> If input: print pin[map] of pin positions to names
[11:17] <SyncYourDogmas> But you are going to have to poll at some point I imagine
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[11:18] <SyncYourDogmas> Put the while true before the for p in pins
[11:18] <SyncYourDogmas> I. Need to do this stuff myself shortly
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[11:35] <DrunkenDwarf> Hi all. Im working on a pi shoutcast radio (not orriginal i know, but i use net radio a lot) ... I know the line-out isn't particularly high quality or high power audio, but is it good/powerful enough to run headphones fairly well?
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[11:36] <Trigraph> how can i list the linker file that gcc uses ?
[11:36] <SyncYourDogmas> Lsof
[11:37] <SyncYourDogmas> Grep GCC
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[11:38] <Trigraph> err Grep gcc ???
[11:38] <Trigraph> you mean strings gcc ?
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[11:39] <Trigraph> all junk nothing useful
[11:39] <SyncYourDogmas> Strings would be lots
[11:39] <SyncYourDogmas> I meant lsof | grep GCC.
[11:40] <Trigraph> okay
[11:41] <Trigraph> prints nothing
[11:41] <Trigraph> is it to list the set of files opened by gcc ?
[11:43] <SyncYourDogmas> Yeah
[11:43] <SyncYourDogmas> With the process flag?
[11:43] <Trigraph> but that means i need to keep gcc running
[11:44] <Trigraph> that's something i cnat do it would end immediately when compilation ends
[11:44] <Trigraph> perhaps before lsof completes ?
[11:45] <SyncYourDogmas> Lsof should be faster..
[11:46] <SyncYourDogmas> Is there not an option in GCC to tell you?
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[11:52] <Kamilion> Trigraph: sysdig can capture syscall events and replay them.
[11:52] <Kamilion> http://www.sysdig.org/ <--- there's already an older build in the debian and ubuntu repositories.
[11:53] <Kamilion> sysdig -w mycapturefile.scap, do your GCC thing
[11:53] <Kamilion> csysdig -r mycapturefile.scap
[11:54] <SyncYourDogmas> Ah excellent to know cheers
[11:54] <Kamilion> csysdig, the curses interface, is relatively new, as of a month or two ago
[11:55] <Kamilion> it's in ubuntu 15.10, but I don't think it's in earlier versions, so you may have to use the .deb from the site to actually look at a capture file with csysdig
[11:56] <Kamilion> http://puu.sh/jGMHH/936707fcf1.png
[11:56] <Kamilion> there's a look at the csysdig interface to drill down into a capture file
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[11:56] <Kamilion> That's a 1.2GB capture file that I made while trying to debug systemd mounts and building fresh ISOs
[11:57] <Kamilion> it grabbed the whole system state
[11:57] <Kamilion> i can look at any of the processes that were running at the time
[11:58] <SyncYourDogmas> Kamilion: I've been meaning to chat to you
[11:59] <Kamilion> http://puu.sh/jGMPu/4cd6c3d202.png here's an example of the syscalls the mksquashfs process was doing.
[11:59] <Trigraph> i suspect the ld files are embedded in gcc
[11:59] <Trigraph> because i dont see any .ld file on the filesystem :\
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[12:00] <Kamilion> yeah, sysdig can figure out which process made them, which other processes accessed them, and which process deleted them.
[12:01] <Trigraph> oh let me check
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[12:03] <Kamilion> SyncYourDogmas: You have my attention...?
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[12:05] <SyncYourDogmas> Remember how you kindly explained rainbow wires? Well mine finally came from China. Still no clue . sooo
[12:06] <Trigraph> ah dint need anything
[12:06] <Trigraph> ld --verbose gives me what i needed
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[12:06] <SyncYourDogmas> I went to a local hackspace last night and joined
[12:07] <SyncYourDogmas> It's like a Qs laboratory, the projects they're doing are mad
[12:07] <Trigraph> whats Qs laboratory ?
[12:08] <SyncYourDogmas> If you happen to live in London or south east England, I highly recommend
[12:08] <SyncYourDogmas> Q as in James bond
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[12:10] <Trigraph> ohj okay
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[12:12] <SyncYourDogmas> Anyway Kamilion thought you'd want to know you inspired me!
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[13:38] <freezevee> hi all! can anyone please help with this issue http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/34593/raspberry-pi-does-not-receive-nrf24-payload ?
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[14:39] <emilio189> Hi all
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[14:40] <emilio189> I updated from Raspbian wheezy to jessie and it installed gnome related things
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[14:41] <emilio189> Could i remove them using apt-remove gnome*
[14:41] <emilio189> ?
[14:41] <SyncYourDogmas> And autoremove
[14:41] <emilio189> SyncYourDogmas: yes
[14:42] <emilio189> SyncYourDogmas: is it the right way?
[14:42] <emilio189> Or should I have done a purge?
[14:42] <SyncYourDogmas> Yeah , worked for me
[14:42] <SyncYourDogmas> Purge too
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[14:43] <emilio189> SyncYourDogmas: thank you for your help
[14:43] <SyncYourDogmas> Removes config stuff I think?
[14:43] <emilio189> Yes
[14:43] <emilio189> I just used remove
[14:44] <emilio189> This way could I disable X from running on startup?
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[14:45] <emilio189> And do you have any other tweak to tell me after the upgrade?
[14:45] <emilio189> Any optimization
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[14:48] <SyncYourDogmas> Sure
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[14:49] <SyncYourDogmas> Are you using ssh?
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[14:56] <SyncYourDogmas> Running a headless server?
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[14:58] <emilio189> SyncYourDogmas: i lost my connection
[14:59] <emilio189> SyncYourDogmas: yes i'm using ssh
[14:59] <emilio189> The link with the rules is broken
[15:00] <SyncYourDogmas> And something like screen?
[15:00] <emilio189> Yes
[15:00] <emilio189> I use screen
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[15:02] <emilio189> Because so i'm able to let program run in background
[15:02] <emilio189> Even those with an interface
[15:03] <emilio189> How can I control the DE it's starting for default?
[15:03] <emilio189> Like a .xinit
[15:03] <SyncYourDogmas> Yeah. Good for split screens too
[15:04] <SyncYourDogmas> .xinitrc
[15:04] <SyncYourDogmas> In your home
[15:04] <emilio189> Where I find this file in raspbian?
[15:04] <emilio189> I think it isn't there
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[15:05] <emilio189> No it's not in my home
[15:05] <emilio189> Maybe I need to create it
[15:05] <SyncYourDogmas> Yeah
[15:06] <SyncYourDogmas> Also remove ldm
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[15:06] <emilio189> SyncYourDogmas: what is ldm?
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[15:08] <SyncYourDogmas> Or whatever the display manager is called
[15:08] <Kake_Fisk> Is 5V/2A power supply a good choice?
[15:09] <emilio189> Yes
[15:10] <emilio189> Mmm ok
[15:10] <b3nn1> yes Kake_Fisk
[15:10] <emilio189> I don't know what display manager I have
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[15:11] <emilio189> Lightdm
[15:11] <emilio189> Is it possible?
[15:11] <shiftplusone> Kake_Fisk: depends on whether it's actually a 5v 2A supply... so on voltage regulation and losses in the leads.
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[15:12] <shiftplusone> and yes, it's lightdm + lxde
[15:12] <emilio189> So in my .xinitrc I can just write
[15:12] <emilio189> exec lxde
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[15:13] <SyncYourDogmas> With & I think
[15:14] <emilio189> To run in background?
[15:14] <SyncYourDogmas> Can't check arm
[15:14] <SyncYourDogmas> You can put whatever you want there
[15:14] <SyncYourDogmas> Yeah
[15:15] <emilio189> Ok
[15:15] <SyncYourDogmas> .xinitrc is what the startx command uses
[15:15] <emilio189> Oh ok
[15:15] <emilio189> I was reading about it on wikipedia
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[15:15] <SyncYourDogmas> Pstree is useful
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[15:16] <SyncYourDogmas> And so is service --status-verbose
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[15:18] <emilio189> With them I can see the services running?
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[15:19] <mazert> hello ! Making an auto monthy backup with cron, of the whole SD card to an external usb device is good ?
[15:19] <Kake_Fisk> emilio, benni, shiftplusone: thanks :)
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[15:20] <emilio189> Kake_Fisk: you're welcome
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[15:21] <emilio189> Kake_Fisk: i'm not really of help
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[15:22] <SyncYourDogmas> emilio189: yeah, and their status
[15:23] <SyncYourDogmas> Or services not running
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[15:23] <SyncYourDogmas> mazert: great idea
[15:24] <emilio189> SyncYourDogmas: ok, thank you:)
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[15:26] <mazert> SyncYourDogmas, ok and when the pi is running, it is better to shutdown some damons (like apache,ssh, auto-upgrade..) cause dd will use lot of cpu and I dont want files to be modified during the backup.
[15:26] <mazert> I guess that
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[15:27] <SyncYourDogmas> emilio189: what's it for out of interest?
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[15:29] <SyncYourDogmas> mazert: hmm, I would personally use rsync to copy. DD yeah, not sure actually
[15:29] <SyncYourDogmas> E
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[15:30] <emilio189> SyncYourDogmas: I'm using it to control the water level of a tank
[15:30] <SyncYourDogmas> Less stuff running the better, you're right
[15:30] <emilio189> With a plotly script in python
[15:31] <emilio189> And also a web server for showing other variables
[15:32] <emilio189> It's connected over internet with a mobile data sim
[15:32] <emilio189> Accessible remotely
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[15:35] <SyncYourDogmas> emilio189: ahh cool, sounds really Interesting
[15:36] <emilio189> Yes but I'm not really expert
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[15:36] <SyncYourDogmas> You'll wanna harden ssh..and how do you measure the level?
[15:37] <emilio189> SyncYourDogmas: I'm using an ultrasonic distance sensor
[15:37] <SyncYourDogmas> Got a link? The pi isn't meant for experts :)
[15:37] <emilio189> SyncYourDogmas: like an HC-sr
[15:37] <emilio189> SyncYourDogmas: hc-sr04
[15:38] <SyncYourDogmas> Yeah that's the best way imo.
[15:38] <SyncYourDogmas> I would be lazy and use the webcam
[15:38] <emilio189> http://www.modmypi.com/blog/hc-sr04-ultrasonic-range-sensor-on-the-raspberry-pi
[15:38] <emilio189> That is raspberry related
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[15:39] <emilio189> It's very easy and cheap
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[15:39] <SyncYourDogmas> I meant for your project ;)
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[15:39] <Kake_Fisk> Do you guys use the rpi for electronic projects that don't require an OS?
[15:39] <SyncYourDogmas> Yeah I'm just useless hardware wise
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[15:43] <JK-47> Kake - the term OS can be very loose. call it firmware or what ever you want.
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[15:44] <JK-47> ive seen many use a realtime embeded os
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[15:45] <SyncYourDogmas> On a rpi it's overkill though?
[15:45] <emilio189> SyncYourDogmas: i'm trying to get the link
[15:45] <emilio189> Kake_Fisk: can't you use an arduino?
[15:46] <emilio189> SyncYourDogmas: https://plot.ly/~emilio189/752
[15:47] <Kake_Fisk> emilio189: Of course. I was just wondering if people did use rpi for small electronic projects. I think I would rather use an arduino
[15:47] <emilio189> SyncYourDogmas: that's is the plot. Now it in fron of a wall
[15:47] <emilio189> SyncYourDogmas: it's*
[15:48] <emilio189> I would recommend an arduino because It's able to measure analog value too
[15:48] <emilio189> Kake_Fisk: really usefull in electronics projects
[15:48] <SyncYourDogmas> emilio189: only accept one host for SSH then... And change port etc. Looks nice, what's the tank for?
[15:48] <Kake_Fisk> yeah :)
[15:49] <SyncYourDogmas> I love all things water related
[15:49] <emilio189> It's a big tank for public water
[15:49] <emilio189> Like 12 meters x 6 meters x 3 meters
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[15:51] <freezevee> can anyone please help ? http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/34593/raspberry-pi-does-not-receive-nrf24-payload
[15:51] <SyncYourDogmas> Pretty stable
[15:51] <SyncYourDogmas> freezevee: ##networking will know
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[15:51] <freezevee> SyncYourDogmas: I don't think so
[15:51] <freezevee> SyncYourDogmas: it's mostly an "RF" device
[15:51] <SyncYourDogmas> It's just whether they'll tell you or not
[15:52] <freezevee> and the problem is related to the rPi driver
[15:52] <freezevee> I 'll try it
[15:52] <SyncYourDogmas> There's some smart arseholes in there
[15:53] <freezevee> :D
[15:53] <Apocx> I don't recall doing anything special to get my RPI and Arduino communicating via RF24
[15:53] <SyncYourDogmas> Focus on networking side though, code scares them, mostly :p
[15:54] <emilio189> Guys I have to go
[15:54] <emilio189> Thank for the help!
[15:54] <emilio189> SyncYourDogmas: thank you
[15:54] <emilio189> Bye all
[15:55] <SyncYourDogmas> emilio189: no worries :)
[15:56] <SyncYourDogmas> freezevee: did you try running tcpdump BTW?
[15:56] <freezevee> I tried with wireshark
[15:56] <freezevee> but I am a bit inexperienced for that
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[15:57] <SyncYourDogmas> It'll narrow your problem down. Filter by your MAC address
[15:58] <SyncYourDogmas> You'll know exactly what's happening
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[15:59] <Apocx> freezevee, do you never call network.startListening()?
[16:00] <Apocx> your Pi is receiving right?
[16:00] <freezevee> ys
[16:01] <freezevee> yes
[16:01] <freezevee> I believe this is included in the RFNetwork
[16:01] <freezevee> startListening is only needed for ad-hoc connections with the RF24
[16:01] <Apocx> ah ok
[16:01] <freezevee> however tbh I tried it
[16:01] <Apocx> yeah I didn't use RFNetwork
[16:01] <freezevee> no problem
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[16:38] <NullMoogleCable> hi
[16:39] <JK-47> hi
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[16:43] <breakingmatter> So I've seen some projects before where people remove the LCDs from various devices and rewire them so they can connect to RPI's/Arduinos/etc. Anyone know how they do that?
[16:43] <freezevee> anyone please http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/34593/raspberry-pi-does-not-receive-nrf24-payload ?
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[16:47] <shiftplusone> breakingmatter: you need to know stuff in order to do that... stuff that you wouldn't be asking about if you knew it. Basically what controller those LCDs have and whether the device you're interested in is able to talk to that controller.
[16:48] <breakingmatter> That's what I'm asking.. How can they know the details of those controllers are if they weren't involved in the manufacturing?
[16:48] <JK-47> looking at part number or product spec sheets
[16:50] <shiftplusone> indeed... it's often a pain to try to find out.
[16:50] <shiftplusone> A mix of google and a little bit of reverse engineering
[16:50] <breakingmatter> Is that information generally available? I mean, I don't feel like spec sheets would normally be floating around for, say, the Kindle e-ink screen
[16:51] <shiftplusone> Do you have a link to where someone uses the kindle e-ink screen without having the kindle talk to it itself?
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[16:52] <breakingmatter> No, I've never found one that didn't use the USB connection. I was just using it as an example.
[16:53] <breakingmatter> I've seen videos for the PSP screen with the RPI, and was just curious why it isn't common to see people reuse screens like the Kindle's
[16:53] <shiftplusone> Well, there you go. I didn't say that you can get all the info about every screen. That's where reverse engineering comes in.
[16:53] <breakingmatter> I understand there can be differences in the hardware of the screen controller itself.
[16:54] <breakingmatter> Oh okay
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[16:54] <shiftplusone> But quite often you can look at the pcb and find a controller part number, google it and find that it's an SPI thing you can just talk to relatively easily
[16:54] <shiftplusone> like the pitft screens
[16:54] <nid0> if you're using something as well known as a kindle you could readily get the part number by googling "*product* teardown", ifixit et al commonly rip new consumer devices like that down as soon as theyre released and publish a full parts list
[16:56] <shiftplusone> not that you're guaranteed to be able to find a publicly accessible datasheet though.
[16:56] <shiftplusone> plus most screens would probably be lvds and very difficult to hook up to a pi (impossible for most people)
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[16:59] <Bilby> *yawn*
[16:59] <freezevee> anyone please http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/34593/raspberry-pi-does-not-receive-nrf24-payload ?
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[17:04] <Bilby> sorry freezevee, I'm no cpp user. Others should be around if you're patient ;)
[17:04] <angrywombat> hi guys
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[17:15] <freezevee> Bilby: I am.. patience's all I've got
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[17:28] <SyncYourDogmas> Is python version same?
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[17:30] <SyncYourDogmas> Uses same library I mean
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[17:32] <traeak> something with a usb3 port would be nice though
[17:32] <traeak> doh i hate it when i scroll lock
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[17:53] <coolstar-pc> hi, I'm planning to get a Raspberry PI. Is it possible to use the raspberry pi to do EHCI debug?
[17:54] <coolstar-pc> I'm looking for something I can use to reflash SPI or do EHCI debug on an x86-64 laptop (as I'm doing stuff on coreboot)
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[17:55] <freezevee> after a downgrade the rpi stopped booting. How can I get my files from the SD ?
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[17:57] <angrywombat> this channel sucks
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[17:57] <Berg> why?
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[17:58] <Berg> must have left
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[18:01] <Berg> freezevee: you could put the sd card in a card reader and see if you can access the files
[18:01] <freezevee> I can access the boot but not the files partition
[18:01] <freezevee> it doesn't mount in osx
[18:02] <Berg> i dont know about osx do you have any other os to use?
[18:02] <Berg> i corrupted my sd card and could read it on linux
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[18:05] <ShorTie> does osx support ext4 ??
[18:05] <ShorTie> that is what you need to read the rest of the sdcard
[18:06] <freezevee> ha ok
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[18:06] <freezevee> I'll put it in a linux machine
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[18:08] <Berg> my rpi2 and program are running on my solar charge system now for 7 days very stable
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[18:20] <SpeedEvil> :)
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[18:28] <SyncYourDogmas> Nice, what country?
[18:28] <at0m|c> i bought this lil battery pack w solar built-in
[18:29] <at0m|c> so small it takes 4 days to charge itself then provides ~single phone charge eh
[18:29] <at0m|c> probably better installation at Berg's :)
[18:30] <Berg> australia
[18:30] <Berg> i did post this before but here is a gallery of random images of what i been doing
[18:31] <Berg> http://gallery.anotherpower.com/main.php/v/bergs+place/?g2_page=1
[18:32] <Berg> there is a few images of diff parts the last image is the pi in a cupboard testing as is now
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[19:15] <freezevee> http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/34593/raspberry-pi-does-not-receive-nrf24-payload anyone please ?
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[19:34] <freezevee> http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/34593/raspberry-pi-does-not-receive-nrf24-payload anyone please ?
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[19:43] <freezevee> anyone there ?
[19:44] <TheLostAdmin> nope
[19:45] <normalra> https://xkcd.com/979/
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[19:46] <freezevee> heh
[19:47] <freezevee> "anyone" helps me always
[19:48] <freezevee> *help*
[19:49] <pksato> fengling: I can not help you. But, that is fb_ili9340?
[19:49] <freezevee> what is this ?
[19:49] <pksato> use same SPI of nrf24?
[19:50] <freezevee> yes
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[19:51] <Bilby> hah
[19:51] <GenteelBen> Bilby Baggyns
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[19:53] <freezevee> I've uploaded also an image with both configurations
[19:53] <freezevee> please wonderful people, help a poor man
[19:53] <freezevee> http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/34593/raspberry-pi-does-not-receive-nrf24-payload
[19:53] <pksato> freezevee: and each connected to individual CE GPIO pin?
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[19:54] <freezevee> pksato: that's the schematic http://blog.carr3r.com/content/public/upload/raspberry-nrf24_0_o.png
[19:55] <pksato> and how TTF display is connected?
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[20:06] <freezevee> pksato: what ?
[20:06] <freezevee> there is no TTF display
[20:06] <freezevee> hmm
[20:06] <freezevee> you're asking because of the log
[20:07] <freezevee> there was a piTFT which is disconnected for a long time now
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[20:08] <pksato> from, point of view of RPi, have a ttf display.
[20:08] <pksato> not working, but have.
[20:08] <freezevee> pksato: I re-imaged the SD card
[20:08] <freezevee> and removed the log lines from the http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/34593/raspberry-pi-does-not-receive-nrf24-payload
[20:09] <freezevee> just an hour ago
[20:09] <freezevee> that's the truth
[20:09] <freezevee> I am dying over a rPi
[20:09] <freezevee> I've been searching for a solution for the last three days
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[20:10] <freezevee> I tracked it down to a bug in the spi driver, then restored the latest rspberry.org raspbian image
[20:10] <freezevee> and I can see the /dev/spidev0.0 and 0.1 in the /dev directory
[20:11] <freezevee> lsmod also gives me spi_bcm2708 and I 've checked If it's blacklisted
[20:11] <freezevee> I've also ran the raspi-config and enabled SPI module load at boot
[20:11] <freezevee> what do I miss ?
[20:12] <pksato> I dont know. I told early, I can not help you.
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[20:16] <freezevee> pksato: np
[20:16] <freezevee> thanks for your time
[20:16] <freezevee> anyone else please ?
[20:16] <Apocx> freezevee, have you tried using the helloworld_tx and helloworld_rx programs and seeing if at least those work?
[20:17] <Apocx> I never had any issues getting the RF24 stuff working, but then again I didn't use the RFNetwork class
[20:18] <freezevee> Apocx: I did
[20:18] <freezevee> the rpi seems to send packets
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[20:18] <freezevee> arduino seems to receive them
[20:18] <freezevee> and then rpi says "failed"
[20:18] <Apocx> hm
[20:18] <freezevee> but you see the packets are being send
[20:18] <freezevee> sent*
[20:18] <eni23> is there any release date for raspian jessie?
[20:18] <Apocx> is the arduino receiving valid data from the rpi?
[20:18] <Apocx> like have you looked at the packet data
[20:19] <freezevee> Apocx: I don't know
[20:19] <shiftplusone> eni23: nope, sorry.
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[20:19] <freezevee> says package received or something like that
[20:19] <freezevee> if you disconnect any of them
[20:19] <shiftplusone> eni23: but if you want to try your luck https://vk5tu.livejournal.com/54182.html
[20:19] <freezevee> the communication fails
[20:19] <freezevee> Apocx: so there is communication but something else fails
[20:19] <Apocx> so it says "Received packet" yes?
[20:19] <Apocx> on the arduino side
[20:20] <freezevee> Apocx: I don't remember exactly to be honest
[20:20] <freezevee> yes on the arduino side
[20:20] <Apocx> it should say Received packet on one line, then the key, then ------------------------, then going to sleep, etc.
[20:20] <Apocx> based on the code you linked
[20:21] <freezevee> I am talking about the helloworld examples you said
[20:21] <freezevee> in the code I linked yes
[20:21] <Apocx> ah ok
[20:21] <freezevee> I would wonder that my connections aren't right but I triple checked them
[20:21] <eni23> shiftplusone: thx, i allready upgraded to jessie but it kinda feels like a frankendebian now
[20:21] <freezevee> and also I am getting the configuration when printDetails()
[20:21] <Apocx> if the arduino is receiving anything then they're probably right
[20:21] <Apocx> and the pictures you posted for the init text look ok
[20:22] <freezevee> Apocx: I saw some people having set the AutoAck to false
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[20:22] <freezevee> I also tried that
[20:22] <freezevee> both false and both true
[20:22] <freezevee> nothing changed
[20:23] <freezevee> I just moved my "base" code from arduino where it is working 100% ok to cpp in the rpi
[20:23] <freezevee> it's the exact same things
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[20:29] <Apocx> can you setup the pi to run this: https://github.com/TMRh20/RF24Network/blob/master/RPi/RF24Network/examples/helloworld_tx.cpp
[20:30] <Apocx> and the arduino to run this: https://github.com/TMRh20/RF24Network/blob/master/RPi/RF24Network/examples/helloworld_rx.cpp
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[20:31] <Apocx> might make it easier to diagnose
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[20:46] <freezevee> they don't
[20:47] <Apocx> the arduino isn't receiving packets from the pi?
[20:47] <Apocx> or it isn't compiling
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[20:59] <monsti> is pi gentoo worth the trouble?
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[21:00] <hosler> monsti: no, but it's fun
[21:00] <monsti> xcompiler or native compiler?
[21:00] <hosler> oh wait. mesa-9999 has vc4 now. im gonna try it out this week
[21:00] <hosler> what is xcompiler?
[21:00] <monsti> crosscompiler on x86/x54
[21:00] <hosler> oh
[21:01] <hosler> i do crossdev+distcc
[21:01] <hosler> and that makes it OK. calculating deps is still painful
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[21:02] <KittenTheEpic> Hey
[21:02] <hosler> hi
[21:02] <KittenTheEpic> do I have to get a micro SD card + reader for the RPi 2 for NOOBS?
[21:02] <hosler> yeah
[21:02] <KittenTheEpic> i'm (hopefully) getting a RPi 2 for christmas, and I love to plan ahead
[21:02] <KittenTheEpic> Can't I just get a normal SD card and put noobs on that?
[21:02] <hosler> yeah
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[21:03] <KittenTheEpic> I half-expect a raspberry pi 3 or a raspberry model 2 B+ to be out by then
[21:04] <rknLA> hi, does anyone know of any professional quality audio i/o projects for the pi besides HiFiBerry? I can't seem to find anything that has high quality inputs too
[21:04] <KittenTheEpic> and does the WiPi require a USB Hub?
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[21:10] <traeak> many usb dongles are very clean audio wise
[21:11] <traeak> and tehre's of course the ability to wire a dac directly in yourself
[21:11] <traeak> umm
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[21:13] <traeak> samplerbox has some hardware suggestions
[21:13] <traeak> http://www.samplerbox.org/
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[21:33] <freezevee> anyone please ? http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/34593/raspberry-pi-does-not-receive-nrf24-payload
[21:34] <KittenTheEpic> also
[21:34] <KittenTheEpic> would a case protect the RPi 2 from the photoflash bug?
[21:35] <monsti> that's no "bug"
[21:35] <nid0> does the pi 2 even suffer from that?
[21:35] <KittenTheEpic> isn't the RPi 2 the first one to HAVE it?\
[21:37] <nid0> maybe i'm thinking of a different device that used to suffer from it, the whole xenon-flash-switching-the-device-off problem is something I came across somewhere 2-3 years ago, i'd associated it with the original pi b
[21:37] <shiftplusone> KittenTheEpic: you have a lot of xenon flashes around?
[21:37] <KittenTheEpic> no
[21:38] <monsti> it's no bug - they used a cheap version of a chip and didn't protect it from some sort of light
[21:38] <KittenTheEpic> I'm getting an RPi 2 (hopefully) for christmas w/ my christmas money
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[21:38] <shiftplusone> monsti: 'cheap'... that's a little misleading htere.
[21:38] <KittenTheEpic> but, with my luck, if I do order, a RPi 3 or 2 B+ will come out the day after I order it. :P
[21:38] <monsti> there is a youtube video for that
[21:38] <shiftplusone> it's just designed to be used inside things like phones, so it's exposed silicon
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[21:39] <monsti> yes
[21:39] <shiftplusone> which is common and standard practice, not a cost cutting measure on the foundation's behalf.
[21:39] <shiftplusone> more of an oversight, I guess, heh.
[21:39] <b3nn1> the rpi ist not that expensive that I would care about a new rpi after I bought the old one
[21:39] <monsti> some transistors also "suffer" from that issue if you remove the protections - but it's no bug
[21:40] <b3nn1> and as soon as there is a new one, it wont have such a huge support like guides
[21:40] <b3nn1> and you cant plug n play rpi1/2 stuff
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[21:47] <KittenTheEpic> I tried to make some sort of 'info hub' for the RPi yesterday in node.js
[21:47] <KittenTheEpic> but I ragequit because of how dumb nodejs was being
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[21:53] <eni23> KittenTheEpic: you should never blame the tools for failed work..
[21:53] <TheLostAdmin> but you should not use nodejs either.
[21:54] <eni23> i like it
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[21:54] <eni23> and a lot of others too :)
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[21:55] <Chernobyl_Ant> Hey guys!
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[21:56] <KittenTheEpic> eni23, well i did.
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[21:56] <niston> weeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[21:56] <niston> I mean hi.
[21:56] <Chernobyl_Ant> Quick Pi question...
[21:57] <Chernobyl_Ant> I have an RPi A here on my TV with XBMC.... works ok...
[21:57] <_jamesl> is anyone here experienced with Linux Infrared Remote control?
[21:57] <Chernobyl_Ant> worth an upgrade ?
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[22:00] <traeak> what does "works ok" mean ?
[22:01] <Chernobyl_Ant> never freeze
[22:01] <Chernobyl_Ant> doesn't restart
[22:01] <Chernobyl_Ant> plays mkv and other media
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[22:01] <freezevee> anyone please ? http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/34593/raspberry-pi-does-not-receive-nrf24-payload
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[22:02] <lee> I have a (low bandwidth, keypad) I2C device that I want to have a reasonable distance away from the Pi (maybe two metres), what physical cable would you use? CAT6? cut up a serial cable?
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[22:04] <mattrichardson> freezevee: Did you get the helloworld examples working, as suggested by Apocx?
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[22:04] <SyncYourDogmas> USB
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[22:04] <freezevee> yes
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[22:04] <freezevee> I am getting half the payload
[22:04] <freezevee> Got payload size=4 value=ABCD
[22:04] <freezevee> RF24 HARDWARE FAIL: Radio not responding, verify pin connections, wiring, etc.
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[22:05] <freezevee> then I run it again
[22:05] <freezevee> Got payload size=30 value=ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ7890
[22:05] <freezevee> RF24 HARDWARE FAIL: Radio not responding, verify pin connections, wiring, etc.
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[22:09] <eni23> KittenTheEpic: imho node is great for creating cheap and dirty "webapps", since client side allways is javascript too.. creating an express app is much easier than creating an django app
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[22:12] <superbia> hi, can i power my pi2 through the gpio pins ?
[22:12] <SyncYourDogmas> freezevee: send me a .pcap file?
[22:12] <traeak> yes but there's no protection
[22:13] <b3nn1> no protection means?
[22:13] <freezevee> SyncYourDogmas: from wireshark ?
[22:13] <SyncYourDogmas> Make sure no passwords etc
[22:13] <superbia> so is it safer to just find an old microusb cable, cut it in half, and solder my 5V on red, and ground on black wire, and than just connect that to microusb port of the pi ?
[22:13] <SyncYourDogmas> Or TCP dump
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[22:17] <freezevee> it captures nothing
[22:17] <freezevee> it doesn't have an ip
[22:18] <freezevee> or protocol
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[22:19] <eni23> superbia: yupp. or you solder a wire directly behind the microusb port, then you have protection
[22:19] <superbia> eni23: nah, i just am asking about the microusb
[22:19] <superbia> do i need to make something with D- D+ lines
[22:19] <superbia> on the microusb cable
[22:20] <Apocx> no you just need power
[22:20] <superbia> or just provide 5v and 0V ?
[22:20] <b3nn1> still asking myself what kind of protection is added by the port
[22:20] <superbia> sweet, also does pi have smoothing, reverse voltage protection ?
[22:20] <superbia> in case i drink too much coronas
[22:20] <SyncYourDogmas> There is a dissector for nRF24
[22:20] <Apocx> there are fuses and such when you put power through the microUSB
[22:21] <Apocx> if you go through GPIO it bypasses them
[22:21] <superbia> is there a schematic you have bookmarked ?
[22:21] <SyncYourDogmas> Raw packets will do though
[22:21] <b3nn1> http://i.stack.imgur.com/T5bRL.png
[22:21] <b3nn1> I wanted to wire it like that
[22:21] <Apocx> honestly I think more boards should have VIN/GND for power supplies on their GPIO, with power protection
[22:21] <eni23> superbia: just power it with an smartphone charger which has about 2a...
[22:22] <Apocx> but I have yet to see any that do
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[22:22] <superbia> i dont have such charger
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[22:22] <superbia> what vendor has 2a ?
[22:22] <superbia> so that i can buy psu cheaper
[22:22] <b3nn1> almost every vendor
[22:22] <b3nn1> like amazon basic for 8€
[22:22] <superbia> what is a goot vendor?
[22:22] <superbia> i also need to shop locally
[22:22] <b3nn1> as long it it says 5V/2A it should be fine
[22:22] <b3nn1> +as
[22:26] <eni23> superbia: i never saw my pis use more than 1200ma alltough, so 1,5 should be fine too..
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[22:27] <superbia> yep
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[22:28] <superbia> does anyone know if only 5v and 0v on the microusb jack on the pi are soldered ?
[22:28] <superbia> are d- and d+ not connected to the pi ?
[22:31] <shauno> they're not, no. https://www.adafruit.com/datasheets/pi2schem.pdf
[22:31] <shauno> they're probably soldered simply for structural reasons, but they're not connected to anything
[22:32] <eni23> https://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/gerbers2.png no...
[22:32] <superbia> sweet thanks
[22:34] <b3nn1> can a breadboard handle 3V/3A (9W)?
[22:35] <superbia> is samsungs 5.3v 2a over the limit ?
[22:35] <superbia> b3nn1: it cant
[22:35] <superbia> look the amps, not volts
[22:35] <superbia> and 3a is a hella lot of current
[22:36] <superbia> b3nn1: http://www.ehow.com/list_7653183_breadboard-specifications.html
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[22:37] <b3nn1> meh
[22:37] <b3nn1> but thanks
[22:37] <b3nn1> http://www.avc-shop.de/WebRoot/Store15/Shops/64272905/54CA/1048/FDA9/A235/F34B/C0A8/2BBC/0A2D/PBS-5X7_1.jpg
[22:38] <b3nn1> will these work with thick lines?
[22:38] <b3nn1> dont know if I will make a PCB for my project
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[22:39] <superbia> that is fine for 3a
[22:39] <superbia> just use good solder
[22:39] <b3nn1> got a lot of sensors and at the end it will sum up to 3A (worst case)
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[22:40] <monsti> what type of ethernet cable do i need for connecting the pi to my laptop? do i need a crossed cable?
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[22:40] <CoJaBo> monsti: Only if the laptop was made in 1990
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[22:41] <monsti> omg :( fuck - made in 20^5 ... no ethernet :))))))
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[22:41] <CoJaBo> rofl
[22:41] <CoJaBo> yeh, that's another problem xD
[22:41] <monsti> i have a usb 2 wlan adapter from my wii ;)
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[22:42] <monsti> usb2rj45 sry
[22:42] <danmurf> Hello peeps :)
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[22:44] <danmurf> I'm just setting up a LAMP server on my RPi and wondered if anyone's had php 5.5 running on theirs (Raspbian)?
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[23:04] <freezevee> anyone please ? http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/34593/raspberry-pi-does-not-receive-nrf24-payload
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[23:08] <superbia> freezevee: debug
[23:08] <superbia> first try sending a simple mesage
[23:08] <superbia> then build from it :)
[23:08] <superbia> i have studied the nrf24 protocole, and it has a lot that can go wrong, and alot that you can do with it
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[23:09] <freezevee> superbia: actually I tried the helloworld tx/rx examples
[23:09] <freezevee> and the first package sent from rpi to the arduino says Got payload size=30 value=ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ7890
[23:09] <freezevee> the second and over RF24 HARDWARE FAIL: Radio not responding, verify pin connections, wiring, etc.
[23:10] <freezevee> so they communicate and send/receive but something other happens in between
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[23:10] <freezevee> in arduinos I can control what's being sent and received but in rPi its way too difficult
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[23:11] <freezevee> I double and triple checked all the connections, the capacitor is in its place between the 3v3 and the gnd so I actually copied all the code from my arduino to the rpi
[23:11] <freezevee> any ideas will be appreciated very much
[23:11] <freezevee> I am struggling over 3 days with this
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[23:16] <SyncYourDogmas> freezevee: send me a packet dump
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[23:18] <freezevee> SyncYourDogmas: tell me how
[23:20] <SyncYourDogmas> tcpdump -i any -U -XXX -s0 not src net -w - | tee -a /mnt/ssdtera/allCaptures.pcap | tcpdump -r - >> /mnt/ssdtera/allIncoming.txt
[23:20] <SyncYourDogmas> But changed
[23:20] <SyncYourDogmas> Hang on
[23:21] <SyncYourDogmas> -s2000
[23:21] <freezevee> nRF24s doesn't have an IP address
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[23:21] <SyncYourDogmas> Skip IP paet
[23:21] <FrankFromHR> Anyone on here using syncthing?
[23:21] <SyncYourDogmas> And change file paths
[23:22] <SyncYourDogmas> Tcpdump -K run first
[23:22] <SyncYourDogmas> To get devices
[23:22] <freezevee> no suitable device found
[23:22] <freezevee> oh wait
[23:22] <SyncYourDogmas> As root?
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[23:23] <freezevee> ok I got many things
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[23:24] <SyncYourDogmas> Find your interface
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[23:25] <SyncYourDogmas> Or show me the list
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[23:25] <freezevee> what do I look for ?
[23:27] <SyncYourDogmas> Not wlan0 presumably? Ifconfig dev0
[23:27] <freezevee> says listening on eth0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 65535 bytes on the top
[23:27] <SyncYourDogmas> Will give you more information
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[23:27] <freezevee> ifconfig has only eth0 and lo for loopback
[23:27] <SyncYourDogmas> Cat the .txt file?
[23:28] <Apocx> I don't think the RF24 stuff operates at an OSI layer that tcpdump can read does it
[23:28] <Apocx> though maybe the RFNetwork stuff adds it
[23:29] <SyncYourDogmas> There's a module for it
[23:29] <SyncYourDogmas> It will. Do wc
[23:29] <SyncYourDogmas> To see file changes
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[23:30] <SyncYourDogmas> Or file or ls -l or whatever
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[23:31] <SyncYourDogmas> It will get the raw hex anyway
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[23:32] <freezevee> which .txt file ?
[23:33] <freezevee> I am losing track
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[23:33] <SyncYourDogmas> The above command makes two files, one .pcap and one plain text
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[23:34] <SyncYourDogmas> The allIncoming.txt one
[23:35] <SyncYourDogmas> Or whatever you named it
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