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IRC Log for 2015-08-29

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[15:14] * Topic is 'Unofficial RaspberryPi IRC channel but "Blessed" by the Foundation as the ONE channel. Logs @ http://srv.datagutt1.com <> Channel Rules as of 6 May '14: http://tiny.cc/h7za1w <> Getting help on IRC: http://tiny.cc/p9za1w'
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[15:19] <Tachyon`> btorch, also, check handshaking isn't turned on
[15:19] <Tachyon`> as I don't think the pi has handshaking lines
[15:19] <Tachyon`> I think setting flow control to none will do the trick in most terminal apps
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[15:21] <btorch> ah it was the sdcard .. I grabbed another one
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[15:24] <btorch> haven't used raspberry Pi in ages :)
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[16:24] <woshty> Is there a current minimal image for the 1b somewhere? I do not need a GUI ..
[16:25] <eennaam> http://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv6/raspberry-pi
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[16:29] <woshty> eennaam: thx, I will give that a try
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[16:29] <Berg> got my tank level pi working ultrasonic distance analog to digital
[16:30] <Berg> minibian
[16:31] <Berg> https://sourceforge.net/projects/minibian/
[16:31] <Berg> tiny image
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[16:35] <Berg> eennaam: is that the lastest version?
[16:36] <Berg> 1b is old pi?
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[16:36] <eennaam> it says wget http://archlinuxarm.org/os/ArchLinuxARM-rpi-latest.tar.gz , it is for model 1 rpi
[16:37] <eennaam> http://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv7/broadcom/raspberry-pi-2 is for model 2
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[16:37] <Berg> they dont update the model one os?
[16:37] <eennaam> i dont know about that
[16:38] <Berg> hmm ok
[16:38] <teclo-> the 1 has an armv6 and the 2 an armv7 I think
[16:38] <Berg> yes
[16:38] <eennaam> you can run pacman -Syu
[16:38] <Berg> rpi2 has 7
[16:39] <teclo-> model name: ARMv7 Processor rev 5 (v7l)
[16:39] <teclo-> and I think modern Linux distros support ARMv7 and not armv6
[16:39] <teclo-> for instance Debian 8 supports armv7 and not armv6
[16:40] <teclo-> so it's "difficult" to have an image for Debian 8 for the armv6
[16:40] <teclo-> well you probabley need to backport and cross-compile stuff
[16:40] <teclo-> that' not easy
[16:40] <teclo-> especially if you need to compile on the Raspberry Pi 1
[16:41] <teclo-> the limitations in speed and memory will probably make compiling very slow
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[16:42] <The_Borg> yeah i just compiled mongo
[16:42] <The_Borg> took 4 hours
[16:42] <The_Borg> <--berg
[16:42] <Karlton> takes about 1 week on the rpi1 to build a basic GNU/Linux OS from scratch
[16:43] <teclo-> indeed it seems it's pretty slow Karlton , thanks for your input :)
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[16:44] <Karlton> that includes building a toolchain to bootstrap and everything
[16:46] <Karlton> http://www.intestinate.com/pilfs/
[16:46] <btorch> one can do a dist-upgrade from a raspbian 7.1 to 7.8 latest right ?
[16:46] <btorch> just like a regular upgrade
[16:47] <teclo-> from 7.1 to 7.8 it's aptitude upgrade
[16:47] <teclo-> or apt upgrade
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[16:51] <btorch> teclo-: yes sorry
[16:51] <btorch> thanks
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[16:57] <teclo-> btorch: np
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[17:30] <at0m> teclo-: re: compiling on Raspberry Pi 1: distcc solves all that
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[17:32] <teclo-> at0m: ah, ok :)
[17:32] <teclo-> hmm... what is going on ? ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted
[17:33] <at0m> a clue from nmap i had: "Warning: You are not root -- using TCP pingscan rather than ICMP"
[17:34] <teclo-> at0m: ah...
[17:34] <at0m> apparently it takes root to icmp ping
[17:35] <teclo-> at0m: well I use Debian on powerpc, sparc, i386 and amd64 and you never need to be root to icmp ping
[17:35] <fred1807> I am using Hello_video.bin to play a .h64 movie file... It freezes on a frame near the end.. Funny thing is, if I run it with --loop option (this is adafruit fork https://github.com/adafruit/pi_hello_video) It loops the video ... What is wrong here? Me h264 encoding? Or can we update something on hello_video.c code? I really need hello_video to play the video all the way and quits at the end of it, so I can script some art presentation
[17:36] <at0m> teclo-: i have no idea, either ping's behaviour changed or it's became verbose about it. loads of people mentioning the warning recently/
[17:36] <teclo-> at0m: ah, ok... I'm gonna investigate that later on
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[17:40] <methuzla> fred1807 that codes looks to be specialized for looped playback of a single file, but it sounds like you are trying to do single playback of multiple files
[17:41] <fred1807> methuzla: exactly! But single videos are freezing with firmware's hello_video too... Some small files plays entire , some longer videos freezes near the end...
[17:42] <fred1807> methuzla: for example, this h264 video files (very short) freezes everytime, at the same frame, using firmwares hello_video, or adafruit fork... https://www.dropbox.com/s/xlyaflmmij4unms/2menu.h264?dl=0
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[17:42] <methuzla> fred1807 have you tried omxplayer?
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[17:43] <fred1807> methuzla: Yes, it plays 100% , but it is not lightningh fast to load videos like hello_video.c Without hello video I can change between mutiple files without gaps
[17:44] <fred1807> *with
[17:44] <Berg> web poage run with data from ultrasonic distance measure http://gallery.anotherpower.com/main.php/v/bergs+place/Untitled.jpg.html
[17:45] <Berg> <---having fun
[17:45] <methuzla> so you have a tight tolerance on seamless, you want no perceivable lag (gap) between videos
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[17:49] <fred1807> methuzla: yes.. and hello_video can do it... wonder why some videos freeze with ti
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[17:53] <methuzla> fred1807: yeah, don't know. but maybe do some searching for "digital signage" and see what others have done
[17:54] <fred1807> methuzla: I have found a wonderful code... Based on hello_video.. it plays a folder seamsly percet, and all my videos work... Problem is, I want to make some art presentation now, and I want to script the videos sequence my own way...
[17:54] <fred1807> I dont understand why single hello_video.bin player freezes, while loop works, and while this code folder folder play works too
[17:55] <methuzla> what is the code that works? why can't you use it?
[17:57] <fred1807> methuzla: because it loads the folder, and play the sequence, it is not detached from the player... I dont know C but I can see the hello_video.c code is builtin inside it
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[18:02] <methuzla> fred1807: still don't understand why you can't use that (whatever it is), sounds like what you're trying to do
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[18:03] <fred1807> because my goal is to use bash scripts and start stops the videos I want, it is for a presentation.. I will not play and loop 1 folder
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[18:12] <methuzla> fred1807 could you just organize your videos into folders, and use some kind of naming convention, and then play with the code that works?
[18:13] <fred1807> live presentation, and interaction with controlers...
[18:13] <niston> bought a magazine today, "Raspberry Pi geek"
[18:13] <niston> it cost 20 quid and is basically a bunch of advertainment articles
[18:14] <niston> and on the backside they promote their own products which they wrote about
[18:14] <ozzzy> you paid 20 quid for a magazine?
[18:14] <niston> yeah
[18:14] <niston> but hey, it came with a DVD that has Raspbian on it! xD
[18:16] <niston> ozzzy: even a regular ct issue costs 7 bucks here
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[18:16] <niston> in zee germany, it costs EUR 4.50
[18:16] <ozzzy> 20 pounds is what... about 30 dollars?
[18:16] <methuzla> fred1807 ohhhhh. interaction. that makes it more tricky. i thought you were just trying to set up a stand alone video play back.
[18:16] <niston> not pounds but CHF
[18:16] <ozzzy> ahhh
[18:16] <niston> but yeah 1 CHF is about 0.93 USD
[18:16] <ozzzy> when you said 'quid' I assumed GBP
[18:17] <fred1807> methuzla: I just need hello_video.c to play the movie file entire, to the end, and quits... the bash scripts for interaction are done
[18:17] <niston> quid, bucks, schotter, kohle, kies, dough, bling bling
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[20:21] <fred1807> hello_video.c is crashing in the middle of some videos.... old versions form github crash in different parts
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[20:26] <teclo-> Hi, on a Raspberry Pi 1 to find out the temparature the command is /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd
[20:26] <teclo-> ... on a Raspberry Pi 2 this command ins't there
[20:29] <SCDias> teclo-: try https://github.com/MilhouseVH/bcmstat
[20:30] <ShorTie> it's /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp
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[20:31] <biberao> hi
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[20:33] <methuzla> teclo- what about: /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp
[20:33] <methuzla> teclo- just cat it and divide by 1000 for temp in C
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[20:34] <biberao> any you guys made a digital signage system?
[20:35] <Bilby> connected to a computer display / tv, yes
[20:35] <Bilby> I think others in here have done LED matrices as well
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[20:36] <biberao> like
[20:36] <biberao> i want to play videos
[20:36] <biberao> and maybe iptv
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[20:36] <biberao> since i cant get it connected to a tv setop box
[20:36] <biberao> i cant get the tv channels so iptv might be the way
[20:37] <Bilby> ah
[20:38] <biberao> ideas?
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[20:38] <SCDias> biberao: Try http://openelec.tv/
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[20:39] <biberao> i got that SCDias
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[20:39] <biberao> but i want a digital signage system
[20:39] <biberao> i want to play videos in a large part of the screen
[20:39] <biberao> while having live in the rest
[20:40] <NedScott> you want two types of video playing at the same time?
[20:40] <biberao> ye
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[20:41] <biberao> understand what i meant?
[20:43] <potatohh> Can someone help me figure out some video output problems?
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[20:44] <biberao> NedScott: ideas?
[20:44] <NedScott> none
[20:44] <biberao> damn
[20:45] <biberao> SCDias: ?
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[20:46] <SCDias> No idea for that biberao
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[20:47] <biberao> damn it
[20:47] <biberao> :|
[20:47] <SCDias> I don't know if there is some extension for it on openelec.
[20:47] <SCDias> just searching
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[20:47] <NedScott> you can't play two different videos at once in Kodi
[20:48] <biberao> ya
[20:48] <biberao> i know
[20:48] <biberao> html5 player it goes
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[20:51] <potatohh> how can I get video out of the 3.5mm jack for the rp2?
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[20:53] <Bilby> potatohh composite video is one of the conductors. you need to buy or make an adapter
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[20:54] <potatohh> I have an adapter, i just can't get it to work
[20:55] <biberao> potatohh:
[20:55] <biberao> you need a 4 something cable
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[20:56] <Bilby> potatohh, yellow cable to yellow jack on tv? do you have composite selected as the video output or it set to auto with HDMI unplugged?
[20:58] <potatohh> yup yellow to yellow Bilby, I don't know where to select the video output. i am runnign retropie btw
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[20:58] <potatohh> This is the cable i have:http://www.amazon.com/Parts-Express-3-5mm-Plug-Cable/dp/B0007V6JCK
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[20:59] <Bilby> pinout's wrong. first question: http://www.amazon.com/forum/-/Tx1KR8OKFQBZO8Y/ref=ask_dp_dpmw_al_hza?asin=B0007V6JCK
[21:00] <Bilby> http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2014/07/raspberry-pi-model-b-3-5mm-audiovideo-jack/
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[21:00] <potatohh> Ok. Thanks. at least i know its not some software problem right now
[21:00] <Bilby> if you cut the yellow wire and reverse the wires it should work
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[21:01] <biberao> Bilby:
[21:01] <biberao> how do i know my 4 pole cable
[21:01] <biberao> is correct?
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[21:02] <potatohh> reversing the wires would work? would pluging them in differenly into the tv work too?
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[21:03] <Bilby> biberao the question i liked to has the pinout on your cable, and it's TRRS => Audio Left, Audio Right, Video, Ground
[21:03] <pksato> buy/make a propper cable. Or you can damange TV or RPi.
[21:03] <Bilby> you need Audio Left, Audio Right, Ground, Video
[21:03] <Bilby> thus, the Video and Ground wires are reversed. If you cut the yellow wire and reverse the wires in it, you'll correct that and get a signal
[21:04] <biberao> Bilby: mine has a audio left right video
[21:04] <Bilby> the video signal is on the right connector, it's just reversed
[21:04] <biberao> and its supposed to be a 4 pole
[21:04] <Bilby> Left, Right, Video, Ground
[21:04] <Bilby> 4 poles :)
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[21:05] <potatohh> oooooh. Thanks for your help, off to my big box o' cables to see what else i've got
[21:05] <Bilby> there's a table on the second link i posted that explains
[21:05] <Bilby> hah
[21:06] <Bilby> you'd need a 4-pole 1/8 jack of some sort, and you can test it with a multimeter if you have one
[21:06] <biberao> mine has 4 poles
[21:06] <Bilby> right
[21:06] <Bilby> but wiring is wrong
[21:06] <biberao> like in the pic
[21:06] <biberao> but how do i know the wiring is wrong?
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[21:07] <Bilby> in the amazon listing, in the questinos area, in the first answer someone posted the pattern to yours
[21:07] <Bilby> do you have a multimeter with continuity?
[21:07] <biberao> guys
[21:07] <biberao> Bilby:
[21:07] <biberao> check this out
[21:07] <biberao> my cable came from this
[21:07] <biberao> The connections provided are HDMI (for picture and sound), component video, stereo audio and video (Red white yellow connectors) and digital audio (via a single RCA cable).
[21:08] <biberao> its an iomega screenplayer HD
[21:08] <biberao> -er
[21:08] <Bilby> ah
[21:08] <biberao> i also have
[21:08] <biberao> a cable with color green
[21:08] <biberao> blue
[21:08] <biberao> and so on
[21:08] <biberao> i dont have it near mea
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[21:09] <Bilby> I can't find a pinout, then
[21:09] <biberao> http://static.highspeedbackbone.net/pdf/Iomega_34650_ScreenPlay_Director_DS.pdf <- the back of my device
[21:09] <biberao> green blue red
[21:09] <Bilby> do you have a multimeter?
[21:09] <biberao> ?
[21:10] <biberao> me?
[21:10] <biberao> ya
[21:10] <biberao> my cable seems to work
[21:10] <biberao> like
[21:10] <biberao> if it says via a single rca cable
[21:10] <biberao> its a 4 pole
[21:10] <biberao> agreed?
[21:11] <Bilby> biberao, 4 connectors but may be wired differently
[21:11] <Bilby> like i can wire mine Left Right Video Ground
[21:11] <Bilby> and you can wire yours Right Video Ground Left
[21:11] <biberao> like
[21:11] <biberao> iomega one
[21:11] <biberao> might be the same
[21:11] <biberao> how do i test?
[21:11] <biberao> multimeter?
[21:11] <Bilby> take your multimeter, and check if the shield is connected to the center pin on the yellow RCA
[21:12] <biberao> you mean the yellow pinout?
[21:12] <Bilby> yes
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[21:13] <biberao> ok
[21:13] <biberao> ill do it tomorrow
[21:13] <Bilby> dot dot dot
[21:13] <biberao> dont have it near me
[21:13] <biberao> the multimeter
[21:13] <Bilby> ah, drat
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[21:14] <pksato> use RPi as continuity tester.
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[21:15] <biberao> ?
[21:15] <biberao> i didnt test it on mine
[21:15] <biberao> lol
[21:15] <biberao> i want to test it on someone's else
[21:15] <biberao> my pi is a rpi1
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[21:16] <Bilby> if you have an LED and a AA battery you can test with that...
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[21:17] <biberao> led
[21:17] <biberao> you mean in which way
[21:17] <biberao> a led light
[21:17] <biberao> ?
[21:18] <biberao> an AA battery matters size?
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[21:18] <Bilby> just low voltage
[21:18] <Bilby> connect + on battery to shield and see if completing the circuit works with the pin on the yellow cable
[21:19] <biberao> i dont have leds either here lol
[21:19] <biberao> used to
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[21:25] <fred1807> anyone know a bit of C and hello_pi examples?
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[21:28] <biberao> thanks Bilby
[21:28] <Bilby> welcome :)
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[21:32] <H__> fred1807: of course, i bet a lot here do. but what is your real question ?
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[21:34] <fred1807> hello_video.c ... Is freezing in the middle of many h264 videos I have... Without knowing C I started to test the code, by trial and error.. I know this part, deals with file ending: if(!data_len) break; I removed the "break" and now all the videos play entire... Problem is, I need the application to quit, so hello_video will work inside the scripts I am creating to control video emission
[21:34] <fred1807> H__:
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[21:36] <fred1807> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/raspberrypi/userland/master/host_applications/linux/apps/hello_pi/hello_video/video.c
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[21:58] <fred1807> loop works but 1 single play cuts in the middle
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[22:02] <biberao> Bilby: ?
[22:02] <Bilby> eh?
[22:02] <biberao> could you link me
[22:02] <biberao> rpi2's 4 pole
[22:02] <biberao> cable?
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[22:07] <biberao> found it
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[22:21] <Encrypt> Hi!
[22:21] <Encrypt> Is it worth it to underclock the Raspberry Pi 2?
[22:22] <Encrypt> People said it isn't for the Raspberry Pi "1"
[22:22] <t3chguy> Encrypt: for what purpose?
[22:22] <t3chguy> to save power?
[22:22] <Encrypt> t3chguy, To make it cooler
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[22:22] <Encrypt> And save power, yes
[22:22] <t3chguy> it runs pretty cool as it is
[22:22] <t3chguy> probably better to shut down cores
[22:22] <biberao> i wonder why
[22:23] <t3chguy> less of a performance loss in most applications and better power saving
[22:23] <biberao> playing movies on the pi is better quality than displaying the pi's desktop over rca
[22:23] <biberao> ?
[22:23] <H__> fred1807: interesting hack you made. i'm not familiar with the reason for that break there
[22:23] <t3chguy> for x in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/online; do
[22:23] <t3chguy> echo 0 >"$x"
[22:23] <t3chguy> done
[22:23] <t3chguy> Encrypt: the above snippet would turn your Pi 2 back into a single core
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[22:24] <fred1807> H__: without the break, it plays the whole video, but hangs in the end... So I am out of luck yet, because my script wont work while the hello_video is frozen
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[22:28] <fred1807> H__: From the exact point the video used to freeze (when with the "break" on the code) the cpu usage goes crazy...
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[22:33] <H__> fred1807: sounds like the vid stream has an error right there which makes the player program 'unhappy'
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[22:33] <fred1807> H__: this is happening with almost every video...
[22:33] <H__> form the same source ?
[22:34] <H__> anyway, i'm guessing here. Hope someone else can follow up.
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[22:37] <fred1807> H__: Are you on raspberry? could you test hello_video playing 1 video ?
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[22:42] <H__> yes i am on raspberry but no cannot test; all my pi's are headless :)
[22:42] <H__> (I'm mostly interested in the GPIO)
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[22:46] <Encrypt> There is something I don't understand
[22:46] <Encrypt> My Raspberry Pi shows:
[22:46] <Encrypt> Mem: 973M total, 873M used, 99M free
[22:47] <Encrypt> But there is no program consuming that much memory! (O.o)
[22:47] <t3chguy> Encrypt: run "free -h"
[22:47] <t3chguy> Linux uses RAM for caching
[22:47] <t3chguy> Encrypt: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[22:47] <Encrypt> Cached: 725M?
[22:48] <t3chguy> Encrypt: that means that files are using 725MB of your RAM to prevent needing to access the SD
[22:48] <Encrypt> Ah, ok
[22:48] <Encrypt> Oh, great
[22:48] <t3chguy> its just caching, its pretty handy
[22:48] <Encrypt> I didn't know that
[22:48] <t3chguy> but as soon as the RAM is needed, it'll get freed
[22:48] <t3chguy> so don't worry about it
[22:48] <Encrypt> \o/
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[22:48] <Encrypt> Now I understand the "cached" line :)
[22:49] <Encrypt> That's really super clever
[22:49] <t3chguy> :)
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[22:50] <Encrypt> t3chguy, Nice link btw :)
[22:50] <t3chguy> Encrypt: I should add it to my macro list of links to be fair
[22:50] <t3chguy> comes up more often that I'd like
[22:51] <t3chguy> 36 Physical Macro buttons and I'm currently using 5 xD
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[23:06] <Encrypt> t3chguy, I've also discovered /dev/disks/by-uuid this evening :D
[23:06] <Encrypt> While I was configuring my Raspberry Pi 2
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[23:52] <des804> Hello
[23:52] <slikts> is there a raspbian version based on debian 8?
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[23:55] <fred1807> can I start 2 instances of omxplayer??
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[23:56] <t3chguy> fred1807 I think they'd clash
[23:56] <t3chguy> since it takes direct control of the GPU
[23:56] <t3chguy> but its worth a try
[23:56] <t3chguy> could end horribly xD
[23:57] <fred1807> I am starting videos at the press of a button, from keyboard.... But videos takes somes eternal 2 seconds to start... Any ideais on how to make it faster, or cut this gap?
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[23:58] <Karlton> rewrite omxplayer
[23:58] <t3chguy> overclock the pi
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[23:59] <ozzzy> run 2 pis
[23:59] <t3chguy> run Intel Compute Sticks

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