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IRC Log for 2015-08-31

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[0:05] <[Saint]> In what way?
[0:05] <[Saint]> Just because a client is headless doesn't mean you won't what to export an X session over ssh at some point.
[0:06] <[Saint]> Just don't run a displaymanager (which in turn won't start X) by default.
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[0:06] <[Saint]> Disabling lightdm (yet still eaving it, and X, available) is trivial.
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[0:23] <Smasher> aha, i knew freenode has such channel! :D
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[0:27] <Apocx> Personally I don't need X at all even over SSH so I use NoX to save some space
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[0:29] <Apocx> I'm using a compute module so I only have 4GB to work with. I'll probably use something even smaller eventually but NoX works for now. Uses about 500-600MB
[0:29] <JK-47> Either way… big SD is cheap.
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[0:29] <Apocx> No big SD on compute
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[0:30] <Berg> good morning happy campers
[0:30] <Berg> and others
[0:30] <Smasher> hi )
[0:30] <JK-47> that the sodimm one?
[0:30] <Apocx> Yep
[0:31] <Dave666> Hi, anyone know how to mount a samba share at boot? I've added an entry to /etc/fstab, but it doesn't mount automatically. If I switch to root and mount the directory the entry in fstab does work. Added the _netdev option to wait for network, but doesn't help
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[0:49] <mumixam> crontab? ifup?
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[1:26] <Dave666> mumixam: I did try using the automounter, but that doesn't seem to work. So using a dumb cronjob every minute that blindly attempts to mount the samba share. Bit inefficient but works
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[1:27] <M3OW> would using a VNC server to turn my pi into a game controller cause input lag?
[1:31] <NedScott> yes
[1:31] <NedScott> or rather, very likely
[1:31] <NedScott> at least with VNC
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[1:36] <M3OW> I was thinking of making something like this, is that reasonable? http://en.virgoo.me/
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[1:42] <t3chguy> Dave666: bind to ifup
[1:42] <t3chguy> Fstab gets read before your network is up so you can't bind a network share at that point
[1:42] <Berg> hahah too funny reporting live from mars
[1:43] <Berg> oops
[1:43] <Dave666> t3chguy: I'm checking why automount is broken at the moment. Pretty sure I followed the docs ok, but doesn't seem to work on the pi
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[2:09] <[Saint]> t3chguy: doesn't mounting with netdev specifically wait for network interfaces to be up before mounting?
[2:10] <[Saint]> IIUC, that's almost entirely why that mount flag exists.
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[2:56] <fred1807> who is the service/deamon that auto updates /etc/resolv.conf with dns servers ?
[2:57] <JK-47> dhclient?
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[2:58] <fred1807> is this the same that makes possible for the raspberry to auto get ip when ethernet cable , that was not inserted, is then, inserted? Because I need to disable the resolv.conf dns udpate, but keep the auto dhcp query
[2:58] <JK-47> chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf
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[3:01] <fred1807> isnt bad pratice to make the file read only, and leave the service trying to write it everytime ?
[3:01] <fred1807> shouldnt I actually disable such behavior of the service?
[3:03] <JK-47> no
[3:03] <JK-47> you could. but i wouldnt
[3:03] <JK-47> since every update may reverse your change
[3:03] <fred1807> ok
[3:03] <JK-47> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/dhclient-etcresolvconf-hooks/
[3:04] <[Saint]> I would consider that bad practice personally. It's just using a brutal method for lack of understanding the real activities involved.
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[3:08] <[Saint]> You can make static addittions to resolv.conf
[3:10] <[Saint]> install resolvconf; run your favorite editor with root; edit either /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head to prepend, or /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail to append; make edit(s); run resolvconf with the -u flag to apply.
[3:10] <[Saint]> fred1807: JK-47: ^
[3:10] <[Saint]> The "right" way to do this.
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[3:13] <JK-47> Or the right right way would be a config in dhclient-enter-hooks.d.
[3:13] <JK-47> but, my way works and is easy.
[3:14] <[Saint]> dhclient-enter-hooks isn't necessarily going to catch this.
[3:14] <[Saint]> since networkmanager is entirely capable of sidestepping dhclient here.
[3:15] <[Saint]> but resolv.conf.d will make your appends/prepends whenever resolv.conf gets touched by anything.
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[3:53] <fred1807> btw, I fixed the problem with hello_video.bin crashing with longer files
[3:55] <Berg> nice
[3:56] <Berg> I fixed my ultrasonics distance webpage display too i made py6thon write the data to the web page before displaying it
[3:56] <Berg> thatr was fun
[3:56] <fred1807> glad to know
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[4:05] <Berg> yep me too
[4:05] <Berg> so many things you can make
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[4:09] <fred1807> I dont have this command in my system "chvt" .. how can I install it?
[4:10] <Berg> chvt command stands for CHange Virtual Terminal. It takes one option which is a number which tells it the virtual terminal to switch to.
[4:10] <fred1807> i write, chvt 6, and i get "-bash: chvt: command not found"
[4:10] <Berg> do you have multi desktops?
[4:11] <fred1807> guess not...
[4:11] <Berg> looks like no
[4:11] <Berg> your teasing right?
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[4:11] <fred1807> no, I am no cmd line only
[4:12] <Berg> berg@berg-G31-M7-TE ~ $ chvt
[4:12] <Berg> usage: chvt N
[4:12] <Berg> your teasing me
[4:13] <fred1807> what? no, I want to folloe this example: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=40880
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[4:15] <Berg> hmm
[4:15] <Berg> interesting
[4:15] <Berg> so im clueless
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[4:36] <fred1807> how can I remove DHCPDISCOVER from the boot, and start it after the login screen?
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[4:43] <fred1807> When I switch on my Pi, it searches for an ethernet connection for a long time, It repeatedly spits out the result...DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval......over and over again for about 1-2 minutes, before booting normally. Whilst this isn't a problem per se, it is annoying and simply slows me down. Seeing as I'm trying to use the Pi in a very portable configuration, this is a bit of a nark. Does anybody know how to stop this
[4:43] <fred1807> happening at boot? BTW, I still need the automatic DHCP discover behavior over ethernet, I just cant wait for it during boot (can I make it to the backround with an &?)
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[4:55] <JustaPie> Hey.
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[10:54] <pabed> how can i read lm35 temp sensor by raspberry pi b+?
[10:57] <ShorTie> l00ks like a re-branded b18s20, so with 1-wire and a little code maybe .. :/~
[11:00] <t3chguy> looks like you'll need an ADC
[11:00] <Berg> LM35 | Analog Output | Local Temperature Sensors ...
[11:00] <ShorTie> not for 1-wire
[11:00] <Berg> yes analog to digital
[11:00] <t3chguy> https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=34642
[11:00] <t3chguy> that post agrees also
[11:00] <Berg> how can one wire be digital
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[11:02] <pabed> raspberry does not have A2D?
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[11:02] <t3chguy> not built in, no
[11:02] <t3chguy> things like Arduinos do though
[11:02] <ShorTie> sorry, after l00kin more at the spec's, guess you do need a adc
[11:03] <pabed> can i pwm for sensing temp?
[11:03] <Berg> :)
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[11:03] <Berg> use smbus lib
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[11:04] <pabed> and is there any gpio that give me ?
[11:04] <pabed> 5 volt
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[11:05] <ShorTie> pi has no adc, so some other hardware is required
[11:07] <DoctorD90> ShorTie: sorry, that rf module how does it work?
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[11:07] <ShorTie> preatty good
[11:07] * ShorTie not real sure what your asking
[11:08] <DoctorD90> some daya ago you poste me your used rf module :)
[11:08] <ShorTie> Yuppers ... :)
[11:08] <ShorTie> rfm69hw
[11:09] <DoctorD90> rfm69hw
[11:09] <DoctorD90> yes that one
[11:09] <ShorTie> it hooks up by the spi bus
[11:09] <DoctorD90> being not my actual living word, may i ask you some feedback about that one?
[11:10] <ShorTie> i like it, i picked it because it has a 433mhz version
[11:10] <DoctorD90> spi was the flat cable, or gpio? i dont remember....
[11:10] <DoctorD90> (that means....??)
[11:11] <ShorTie> you get better signal propagation with a lower frequency
[11:11] <DoctorD90> ah ok
[11:11] <ShorTie> gpio pins
[11:11] <DoctorD90> and you can send command to it with? just 2 of them?
[11:12] <DoctorD90> 1 send command to other?
[11:12] <t3chguy> SPI is normally 3 pins + power
[11:12] <ShorTie> sure, can send anything you want in a packet
[11:12] <t3chguy> MISO, MOSI, CLK, (RST), Vcc, GND
[11:13] <DoctorD90> there are settings to do? if another rf module is near to it, it goes in contrast?
[11:13] <ShorTie> best to stay under like 61 bytes so the inherent crc works
[11:13] <t3chguy> thats a cool little module
[11:13] <DoctorD90> so, nothing about video streaming :P
[11:13] <ShorTie> it goes by network and node id
[11:13] <t3chguy> I bought 4 2.4GHz Radio modules yesterday
[11:13] <DoctorD90> thx t3chguy :)
[11:14] <ShorTie> oh no, no video streaming
[11:14] <t3chguy> NRF24L01+
[11:14] <t3chguy> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291029588078?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
[11:14] <t3chguy> gonna have fun with those
[11:15] <mgottschlag> t3chguy: I bet not even one of those modules will be a genuine NRF24L01+ :p
[11:15] <mgottschlag> (which isn't that problematic though given that the chinese clones perform equally well in most cases)
[11:15] <t3chguy> mgottschlag: I don't really care as long as it works as a proof of concept
[11:15] <t3chguy> range will probably not be fantastic but it'll work
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[11:15] <t3chguy> and if not I'll just get myself a refund and no chance will they ask me to send it back
[11:16] <ShorTie> i'm using it for sensor reading and wanted/need some range of the signal
[11:16] <DoctorD90> ShorTie: so i can set up "my network", assign them an ID and send data to them :) ....for a quadcopter they seems good as way to control it.....range?
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[11:17] <DoctorD90> they are sender/receiver both rigth?
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[11:18] <ShorTie> your gonna use a pi for a quadcopter ??
[11:18] <t3chguy> a Pi isn't real-time enough for a quadcopter lol
[11:18] <DoctorD90> t3chguy: cant be shipped in italy that link xD
[11:18] <t3chguy> get a microcontroller
[11:18] <mgottschlag> DoctorD90: you'll get NRF24L01+ modules *everywhere*
[11:18] <DoctorD90> yes ShorTie ...still waiting money to purchase all need stuff from adafruit
[11:18] <mgottschlag> and yeah, a pi is either overpowered or underpowered for a quadcopter, depending on what you want to do :)
[11:19] <t3chguy> if you want automated flight, underpowered
[11:19] <t3chguy> if you want manual flight, overpowered
[11:19] <ShorTie> man, your gonna need a 2000 dollar quadcopter to get the pi off the ground for any length of time you know
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[11:19] <DoctorD90> mgottschlag: yes, i haventnsearch tehm, i was just telling " that seller sends over all the world..less than italy"m:P
[11:19] <mgottschlag> or is there any proper support for image recognition frameworks on the pi's gpu now?
[11:19] <t3chguy> xD
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[11:20] <DoctorD90> ShorTie: what do you mean? o0
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[11:21] <mgottschlag> DoctorD90: smaller quadcopters can only lift <100g
[11:21] <ShorTie> have you l00ked for a battery yet ??
[11:21] <mgottschlag> the pi will be pretty heavy
[11:21] <t3chguy> a pi uses a relatively large amount of energy too
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[11:22] <mgottschlag> hm, I always assumed the motors need much more
[11:22] <ShorTie> and then the motors that have enough power to lift those, the pi and the frame to hold it all together ??
[11:22] <DoctorD90> mgottschlag: from what i have seen, from a local store, fpv/fvp, as they are named, they can grab over 1kg :P
[11:23] <t3chguy> well yes mgottschlag but if you don't want to impact the flight time, you'll need to bring on board an extra battery, which isn't light
[11:23] <DoctorD90> ShorTie: xD i still have to code all the stuff xD .....im waiting for those stuffs......one moment i grab link....
[11:23] <ShorTie> you will have 300-500 in just a battery
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[11:24] <ShorTie> better to just go buy a bubble bee and have fun, imho
[11:24] <Berg> use a petrol motor
[11:25] <Berg> zoom zoom
[11:25] <DoctorD90> http://www.adafruit.com/wishlists/368367
[11:25] <DoctorD90> Berg: if i'd know how to control it, i'd do it xD
[11:26] <Berg> :)
[11:26] <ShorTie> petrol motor, add a seat and have real fun ..
[11:26] <ShorTie> :)~
[11:26] <Berg> yepo
[11:26] <t3chguy> a servo on the carb
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[11:26] <Berg> if your sitting in it you use a cable no remote
[11:26] <DoctorD90> the gps for local automatic fligth, 11dof, for geting data XYZ, i2c 16bit to controll esc
[11:27] <Berg> would you pre program a flight plan?
[11:27] <DoctorD90> ShorTie: it would be very funny! ....but im not a mechanic :P ..so i havent tools to mount it :P
[11:27] <Berg> then you dont need to have a remote control
[11:27] <DoctorD90> (unfortunatly)
[11:28] <DoctorD90> Berg: yes, as in case of loosing control....or pre-setted fligth....
[11:28] <Berg> interesting idea
[11:28] <DoctorD90> like foolow me, and take control when i want....smart stuff like that....
[11:28] <Berg> have it fly home
[11:28] <DoctorD90> to put out garbage xD
[11:28] <ShorTie> lol, i was just thinking that
[11:29] <Berg> most folks wona mount guns on them
[11:29] <DoctorD90> with >1kg of load, it can go to do it
[11:29] <DoctorD90> berg.....be real.....only a rail gun has sense on it u.u
[11:29] <DoctorD90> xD
[11:29] <ShorTie> like t3chguy said, the pi is not real time enough for a good quadchopter
[11:29] <t3chguy> a gun would send it flying
[11:30] <DoctorD90> only 1 hit...but funny xD
[11:30] <Berg> jet propeled in revers
[11:30] <t3chguy> like the amount of computing power dedicated to balancing it would be insane to make a regular gun viable
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[11:31] <Berg> what do they use in a already built one?
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[11:31] <DoctorD90> xD give me time xD i will show you one day the video u.u .....
[11:31] <DoctorD90> of its crash on ground xD
[11:31] <Berg> what does u.u mean?
[11:32] <t3chguy> its an emoticon
[11:32] <Berg> ooo
[11:32] <at0m> ._.
[11:32] <DoctorD90> oh sorry...i like ascii style.....
[11:33] <Berg> its ok im new to style
[11:33] <DoctorD90> ooo the women with 3 boots in film with harnold schwartz negger u.u
[11:34] <Berg> some things should never be let off the planet mars
[11:34] <DoctorD90> btw.....im only not realy sure about i2c 16bit board module for control esc
[11:34] <DoctorD90> due to i have to understand better esc controlling
[11:35] <Berg> well i have a light diode conn ected to my pi
[11:35] <Berg> its on a board thats already adc
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[11:35] <Berg> anaolog to digital
[11:36] <Berg> http://gallery.anotherpower.com/main.php/v/bergs+place/SDC10530.JPG.html
[11:36] <Berg> it has temp light and power to digital
[11:36] <Berg> the bottom module
[11:36] <ShorTie> DoctorD90, you need to find a hobby shop, a place that sells that type of stuff locally, and go talk to them about it before you buy a bunch of junk online, imho
[11:37] <Berg> true
[11:37] <t3chguy> Berg: I ordered one of those Ultrasonics yesterday
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[11:38] <Berg> PCF8591 AD / DA Conversion of Analog to Digital /Digital to ...
[11:38] <Berg> i got mine working but im not sure about me code yet
[11:38] <Berg> i have it running now collecting data
[11:38] <t3chguy> imma use it with Arduinos so I'm sure there's a lib somewhere for me xD
[11:39] <Berg> that only needs a rpi.gpio lib
[11:39] <Bhaal> How come there seems to be no v4l2-ctl for DRC ?
[11:40] <DoctorD90> ShorTie: done....but they are ...*******...... they only be able to say "purchase from us controller xdiejdi393839je connect to pc, run gui, set dimension of rotor, disconnect, links cables, let's fly"......i asked them "esc use pwm rigth? mayni use i2c?" - asnwer "what is pwm? what is i2c?" - me "*closing door sound*"
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[11:40] <Berg> joke right?
[11:41] <DoctorD90> nope....
[11:41] <Berg> i hate i2c i dont understand it
[11:41] <Berg> it hates me too
[11:41] <Berg> :)
[11:41] <t3chguy> i2c is really nifty
[11:41] <t3chguy> two wires to connect many devices to a host
[11:42] <t3chguy> using addressing
[11:42] <ShorTie> it's your money, but the pi is not the right thing to use, imho
[11:42] <t3chguy> is so damn useful
[11:42] <DoctorD90> ah! rigth! what kind of rude man...i have said "bye" before exit u.u forgot to write...
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[11:42] <Berg> well i spose its there for me to leanr gee im glad i have a pi top learn offer
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[11:43] <ShorTie> good example Berg, l00k at a pi-top and compare it to a laptop and what you get
[11:43] <Berg> the ultra sonic distance module works on delay of return signal and thickness or viscosity of air how do you work out the exact time for exact distance with just one module
[11:43] <DoctorD90> ShorTie: they are anyway usefull modules :) and they are compatible with arduino too :)
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[11:44] <DoctorD90> but before buy, i want understand better pwm with esc
[11:44] <ShorTie> other then for fun of building, a pi-top is about useless as a laptop, imho
[11:44] <Berg> nar its good for coding on a laptop is wasted spoace
[11:44] <Berg> space
[11:45] <Berg> i have a pi-top
[11:45] <Berg> over there --->
[11:46] <Berg> so how do you work out the time laps to get the exact distance with ultrasonic module
[11:46] <Berg> :)
[11:46] <Xark> But what a great Kickstarter campaign, huh? :)
[11:46] <t3chguy> DoctorD90: everything that works on a Raspberry Pi, you can use on an Arduino
[11:46] <DoctorD90> about video streaming? any idea? i dont think that that rf module can provide a good one streaming too :(
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[11:46] <DoctorD90> t3chguy: yes, for this :P they are usefull btw :D
[11:47] <t3chguy> I have a Due and a few Micros
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[11:47] <t3chguy> got an Uno on the way
[11:47] <t3chguy> just for shield compatibility
[11:47] <DoctorD90> sensor motion, gps..tehy are good...
[11:47] <ShorTie> it's more like, anything that works on a Arduino will work on a pi too...
[11:47] <Berg> so its all invertable
[11:47] <Berg> heheh
[11:48] <ShorTie> just some code porting is all
[11:48] <DoctorD90> id have to purchase a pi case -.- grrr
[11:48] <ShorTie> not really, things start with the Arduino and morf out to others
[11:48] <DoctorD90> pi moroni bow <.<
[11:48] <t3chguy> ShorTie: Pi doesn't have built in ADCs so not directly
[11:48] <Berg> i actualy use my python cod to write html on the fly so no reason you can do the same with the aduino stuf?
[11:49] <t3chguy> and some things ShorTie won't work, if they have a very strict timing protocol
[11:49] <t3chguy> like NeoPixels barely work, and they break analog audio functionality on a Pi
[11:50] <t3chguy> well by break, they inhibit it due to requiring it for the communication
[11:50] <Berg> how much you pay for your ultasonic module t3chguy
[11:50] <t3chguy> Berg: I think it was like £1.50
[11:50] <t3chguy> from UK
[11:50] <Berg> hmm mine cost 90cents au
[11:50] <t3chguy> I could have bought them for £0.99 from HK
[11:51] <Berg> postage free
[11:51] <t3chguy> but then delivery takes a week or two
[11:51] <t3chguy> postage was free on mine also
[11:51] <Berg> im patient
[11:51] <t3chguy> I thought, 50p more, I might as well buy from UK
[11:51] <Berg> i thought if it works good and breaks ok ill buy better quality later
[11:51] <ThinkingofPython> I'm in HK right now :D
[11:52] <ThinkingofPython> could have sent them to ya
[11:52] <t3chguy> lol ThinkingofPython
[11:52] <t3chguy> I should have ordered them all to you
[11:52] <t3chguy> for you to box up into a single box
[11:52] <ThinkingofPython> heh
[11:52] <Berg> me too
[11:52] <t3chguy> and then Express ship to me :P
[11:52] <Berg> we wasted good assets t3chguy
[11:52] <ThinkingofPython> Coulda shoulda woulda!
[11:52] <t3chguy> xD
[11:52] <Berg> did you get your back pack solar panel ThinkingofPython
[11:52] <DoctorD90> may i ask you this sensor's link?
[11:53] <ThinkingofPython> However though, when like 90% of sellers say they're from HK, they're not.
[11:53] <ThinkingofPython> They're from China.
[11:53] <DoctorD90> on adafruit they want many many useless money <.<
[11:53] <ThinkingofPython> It's a huge issue here which govt is cracking down on
[11:53] <ThinkingofPython> Berg I haven't yet, as I've had some money troubles.
[11:53] <Berg> i just lookedf on ebay
[11:54] <Berg> well when you get it set up dont forget pics
[11:54] <Berg> im interested in how much poower you get on a hike
[11:55] <Berg> DoctorD90: DO A EBAY SEARCH FOR 'PCF8591 AD / DA Conversion'
[11:55] <Berg> OOPS SORRY MY KEYBOARD IS DEAF
[11:55] <Berg> :)
[11:56] <Berg> coffee time
[11:56] <t3chguy> Jeez
[11:56] <ThinkingofPython> :D will do
[11:57] <t3chguy> just realised how many things I'm still waiting on from China/etc
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[11:59] <Berg> get it before they crash and they need obama to fix the economy
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[12:00] <t3chguy> NeoPixel strip, Breadboard, OLED Module, Bag of PC Jumpers, Dual Row pin headers, another Micro, RFID Tags, Small "NeoPixel" controller, IR Receivers, Arduino Uno, NRF24L01+, Ethernet Shield for Arduino, 5V to 3V3 stepdowns, DS18B20 Thermal Probe, IR PIR Motion Sensor, I2C Level Converter, Ultrasonic Range Finder
[12:00] <t3chguy> oh and this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301584651363
[12:01] <t3chguy> now the waiting game begins
[12:01] <Berg> :)
[12:01] <Berg> i want i want
[12:02] <Berg> i cant say i dontr want but have to wait on coins
[12:03] <Berg> I think i want most of all is a few more pi's
[12:03] <Berg> i have so many ideas and not enough pi;s
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[12:04] <t3chguy> I prefer Arduinos currently
[12:05] <Berg> well when i was looking for something to control my solar i look at arduino and it was a new language so i took up rpi as it can be controled with python
[12:05] <Berg> <---very old and new tyhings are hard to learn
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[12:05] <t3chguy> lol
[12:06] <Berg> its truth
[12:06] * Berg shrugs
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[12:08] <DoctorD90> bergs!! yep! i wrong! not dac/adc module, ultrasonic range sensor :D
[12:09] <DoctorD90> for a smart quadcopter know object distance is good :P
[12:09] <Berg> ooo
[12:10] <Berg> thats cheap too
[12:10] <DoctorD90> not on adafruit xD
[12:10] <Berg> you need good error catching otherwise it will not read every time and mess your code
[12:11] <Berg> if i wave mine around the room halkf the time it dont read or is out of range
[12:11] <t3chguy> would be useful for a landing sensor
[12:11] <Berg> i think the ones i got only work to 4m
[12:11] <Berg> yes
[12:12] <Berg> around 400 mm they very accurate
[12:12] <DoctorD90> Berg: what do you mean? 0o
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[12:12] <ShorTie> they can not see that far
[12:12] <Berg> reask your question i8 dont understand
[12:13] <ShorTie> not enough power to get the sound wave to travel very far
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[12:13] <DoctorD90> they have a range, on adafruit they sell many kind of range sensor...10cm, to 1m more ore less....
[12:13] <DoctorD90> ah!! understood now!
[12:14] <Berg> i point m,ine at a object 2m away it works
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[12:14] <DoctorD90> and for object position sensor what do you suggest? excluding ultrasonic sensor?
[12:14] <Berg> radar?
[12:14] <ShorTie> 1m is worthless for a quadchopter, by the time it see something and tries to react to it, you will have crashed into it, imho
[12:15] <Berg> how would you compensate for a surface that dont refleck a sound say on a angle surface it cant read that
[12:15] <DoctorD90> yes ShorTie ...fr this i'd need a more ranger sensor
[12:15] <DoctorD90> Berg: something like that..a radar +or- xD
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[12:17] <DoctorD90> my code, often is modular.....so i will just edit "radar_sensor" proc, and change device....i would start with easy tasks...but knowing this issue, i'd like to pirchase another kind of sensor
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[12:19] <Berg> 6: Detection distance: 2cm-450cm
[12:19] <Berg> http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Ultrasonic-Module-HC-SR04-Distance-Transducer-Sensor-For-Arduino-Robot-/171072011934?hash=item27d4afbe9e
[12:19] * ShorTie hopes your pocket book is nigger then your dreams
[12:20] <Berg> bigger
[12:20] <t3chguy> XD
[12:20] <ShorTie> bigger*
[12:20] <t3chguy> dat typo though
[12:20] <Berg> 99 cents is evil cost
[12:20] <t3chguy> also ShorTie than*
[12:20] <ShorTie> i flunked spelling and grammer in school .. :/~
[12:20] <Berg> that one is what i got and its spects say 4.5m
[12:21] <t3chguy> I'm not even English :)
[12:21] <Berg> me either
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[12:21] <t3chguy> Polish here
[12:21] <Berg> australian
[12:21] <Berg> :)
[12:21] <ShorTie> and i've never read a book, lol.
[12:21] <Berg> i cant read
[12:21] <Berg> ner ner
[12:22] <Berg> i think the polish guy wions though
[12:22] <Berg> *wins
[12:22] <t3chguy> haha
[12:23] <Berg> Kamilion: here ?
[12:23] <Berg> hmm
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[12:26] <Berg> its bad when i get to looking at ebay my wallet cant afford my mind
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[12:33] <DoctorD90> but this is ultrasonic...you said that ultrasonic may get bad feedback on not reflecting surface...or i have misunderstood?
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[12:34] <t3chguy> Radar wouldn't be any better
[12:34] <t3chguy> its all Light waves
[12:34] <t3chguy> Radar, Light, Ultrasonic, Sound
[12:34] <t3chguy> they both need a reflection
[12:35] <t3chguy> well, its a "LIGHT" Wave
[12:35] <t3chguy> just not visible light
[12:35] <t3chguy> I guess I should say Electromagnetic Wave
[12:35] <t3chguy> but thats just a pain to write
[12:35] <DoctorD90> uhm...i may combine all of them *_*
[12:36] <t3chguy> if something doesn't reflect you'll still get no readings xD
[12:36] <t3chguy> regardless of how many you have
[12:37] <DoctorD90> but i increase probabylity....
[12:38] <DoctorD90> ex: light may be not reflected on a glass...but ultrasonic may
[12:38] <DoctorD90> ligth may reach higher distance... i may get a pre-signal :D
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[12:40] <t3chguy> s/light/EM/
[12:40] <t3chguy> to get the best object detection you'd need 2-3 cameras and some image recognition
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[12:40] <t3chguy> with some smart flying algorithms, fly a few cm to one side and the cameras will see how objects move differently
[12:40] <t3chguy> you can then judge space and distance
[12:42] <DoctorD90> ......image recognition is not at my actual level xD .....so i understand your explaination, and i will try to reach it :P
[12:43] <ShorTie> go for the real gusto and solar power it
[12:44] <DoctorD90> i have now to solve issue about esc/pwm, normal camera or nigth vision camera....
[12:44] <DoctorD90> ah...and streaming way for video :P
[12:45] <DoctorD90> rf mayb isnt the best streming way.....it may be good just for commands
[12:45] <t3chguy> probably an xbee for streaming video
[12:45] <t3chguy> xbee apparently have 1 mile range even on the lowest power one (215mA)
[12:45] <t3chguy> the 900 series are actually only 210mA and have 6 mile range xD
[12:45] <t3chguy> https://www.sparkfun.com/pages/xbee_guide
[12:46] <DoctorD90> i was seeing about esp8266 ....esp13 is at last 2$
[12:46] <DoctorD90> lol xD i can go to put out garbage at main seed point xD ahahahah
[12:46] <t3chguy> Xbees are good enough for streaming video though
[12:47] <t3chguy> DoctorD90: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqhaMaKGTQ4
[12:49] <ShorTie> you know you gotta mount that vertical not horizontal right ??
[12:53] <DoctorD90> ShorTie: if it hasnt antenna, yes....btw...on a quadxopter...i think would be difficult to keep it vertical :P
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[12:54] <DoctorD90> btw....now i have to see specs between xbee and esp :P ...video streaming solved at 50%
[12:55] <DoctorD90> still remain decision between day/nigth camera :P infrared, or not infrared?
[12:55] <DoctorD90> this is the problem
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[13:18] <Berg> your making a new life form being god is hard work
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[14:04] <annoymouse> Can a RPi serve as a viable means of hosting a Twitter bot?
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[14:11] <mgottschlag> most likely
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[14:33] <Bhaal> How come there seems to be no v4l2-ctl for DRC ?
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[15:17] <annoymouse> mgottschlag: How should I do that?
[15:18] <t3chguy> annoymouse: you write a twitter bot in a Linux friendly language
[15:18] <annoymouse> t3chguy: I already wrote one in Python
[15:18] <annoymouse> I need to host it now
[15:18] <t3chguy> then copy it to the Pi and execute it?
[15:18] <t3chguy> Pi has Python installed by default
[15:18] <annoymouse> Which OS should I use?
[15:18] <t3chguy> Whichever you're most comfortable with
[15:19] <t3chguy> and you mean Distro
[15:19] <t3chguy> as the OS is Linux regardless
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[15:19] <annoymouse> ^
[15:19] <ozzzy> well.. the kernel is Linux
[15:19] <annoymouse> I guess I'll give Raspbian a shot
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[15:20] <t3chguy> depends on how deep you define operating system
[15:20] <t3chguy> as you can use the kernel for a minimal operating system on its own
[15:20] <t3chguy> practically
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[15:47] <knob> Good morning!
[15:47] <knob> Quiet in here
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[15:54] <knob> Odd question... I bought a piFace about 1 year ago (or more). When I went to finally use it yesterday, it didn't fit the newer rPis with the extended GPIO rack. What would you do?
[15:54] <knob> Is there some type of extenders for the GPIO pins? Or should I hack something together? Something like the "Pi Gobbler"?
[15:56] <IT_Sean> 6It should still fit.
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[15:56] <knob> IT_Sean, it does fit... yet one of the "PCB corners" of the piFace hits/interrupts the "new" USB block
[15:57] <knob> so the piFace doesn't "sit in" all the way in the GPIO pins...
[15:57] <IT_Sean> Ah.
[15:57] <IT_Sean> Do the pins make contact?
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[15:57] <knob> This isn't critical... beacuse I hadn't used it until yesterday. Just wondering what to do
[15:57] <knob> Well, they do make contact, yet because the piFace is at an angle... some make full contact, and the last ones are non-contact
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[15:57] <IT_Sean> no need "hack something together"... just get a GPIO ribbon cable from Adafruit or similar.
[15:57] <mgottschlag> you can easily solder a pin header and a pin socket together
[15:58] <knob> I saw in the piMagazine that there's a company in the UK that makes stackable "rPi shields"
[15:58] <knob> ahhh
[15:58] <knob> nice
[15:58] <mgottschlag> so that the height of the connector is increased by 1cm
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[16:05] <thegorn> "channel rules" link and "getting help on irc" link in topic both don't work
[16:05] <thegorn> lmao
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[16:06] <t3chguy> thegorn: its symbolic of there being no rules and no one being helpful, only kidding
[16:07] <thegorn> :) maybe
[16:07] * IT_Sean is fixing it now. thanks for reminding me.
[16:07] <thegorn> IT_Sean: cool. honestly I would normally have never clicked on it, but i thought, hmm, maybe there really is something especially specific about rules in here
[16:08] <IT_Sean> urf... Google Docs (where we keep the rules) is being a jerk this morning. :/
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[16:09] <thegorn> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Z8B_0WVSFobWv-ZxpupAJ43Bz7QWpAxbefDJ2tD5MT -- i think this is it
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[16:09] <IT_Sean> https://goo.gl/h5qPhz <-- there you go
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[16:10] <thegorn> i find the small print part especially lol-worthy since generally you would only have a link to the rules after joining the channel
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[16:11] <thegorn> but whatever, i guess it sounded good to whoever wrote it
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[16:11] * IT-Sean changes topic to 'Unofficial RaspberryPi IRC channel but "Blessed" by the Foundation as the ONE channel. Logs @ http://srv.datagutt1.com <> Channel Rules as of 6 May '14: https://goo.gl/h5qPhz <> Getting help on IRC: http://tiny.cc/p9za1w'
[16:11] <IT-Sean> There... Rules URL fix'd
[16:11] <thegorn> IT_Sean: might want to use a link that goes to the view rather than edit url
[16:12] <IT_Sean> You shouldn't be able to edit it
[16:12] <thegorn> also the getting help on irc link is broken too
[16:12] <IT_Sean> I haven't got that doc, so...
[16:12] <IT_Sean> one of the other Ops 'll hafta fix that one
[16:13] <thegorn> yea, i can't edit, i'm assuming even people that can edit don't want to go directly into edit mode on clicking link, but whatever, it is your link
[16:13] <Bilby> haha that small print is both redundant and unnecessary
[16:13] <IT_Sean> you are both redundant and unnecessary, Bilby
[16:13] <IT_Sean> :p
[16:14] <Bilby> that's not what your mom s... eh, i haven't had enough coffee to verbally spar :P
[16:14] <IT_Sean> Don't go there, Bilby.
[16:14] <IT_Sean> you will loose that game.
[16:14] <thegorn> it actually does just come off as really non-professional
[16:15] <t3chguy> IT_Sean: lose*
[16:15] <IT_Sean> that too
[16:15] <ozzzy> professional? on IRC?
[16:15] <thegorn> (the small print portion, your mom jokes are acceptable professionally everywhere)
[16:15] <thegorn> ozzzy: cringe-y?
[16:15] <Bilby> lool
[16:15] <thegorn> read it and tell me you don't roll your eyes a little bit
[16:16] <IT_Sean> thegorn: we're all volunteers here... not professionals. Perhaps, one of these days, when I don't have eleventy binquillion tickets open, and a to-do list a mile long, i'll get 'round to re-writing it
[16:16] <Bilby> all you really have to do is remove that "rule"
[16:16] <thegorn> well, i'm pretty sure you have the edit link as previously discussed, just drop the last section
[16:16] <IT_Sean> but untill then, it is what it is. mmm'kay?
[16:16] <thegorn> Bilby++
[16:16] <Bilby> since a) it's not a legally-bindign document anywawy and b) if the rules above it don't apply until that's said... why does that rule apply?
[16:17] <Bilby> but i digress, unless someone wants to get me a coffee
[16:17] <ozzzy> the good thing about IRC is that the guy with the +f get's to make the rules
[16:17] <annoymouse> Should I use NOOBS or just install Raspbian directly?
[16:17] <ozzzy> I've done both... both work
[16:18] <Bilby> annoymouse, NOOBS is great if you want to experiment because it makes things very easy to start from scratch or try another distro
[16:18] <Bilby> direct gives you a litle more space on the SD and less initial configuration
[16:18] <annoymouse> Bilby: Can I multiboot with it?
[16:18] <Bilby> both operate fine ~~
[16:18] <ozzzy> sure... just swap SD cards
[16:18] <annoymouse> No, with NOOBS, not the RPi
[16:19] <Bilby> I'm not sure but I would assume so. NOOBS is more a preloader than a multi-boot system
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[16:19] <ozzzy> nope
[16:19] <ozzzy> one distro at a time
[16:19] <Bilby> but i would assume you can edit the grub file or something
[16:19] <annoymouse> Do you know if Berryboot is still being maintained?
[16:19] <Bilby> right you can only do one distro at a time in NOOBS but you can install NOOBS along side other distros
[16:19] <ozzzy> but... if you just keep a handful of SD cards around you can just boot whatever you want
[16:20] <Solarbaby> berryboot is not maintained
[16:20] <annoymouse> alright I think I'll just go direct then
[16:20] <Solarbaby> berryboot still works though. It's not a good experience.
[16:20] <annoymouse> Thanks guys
[16:22] <Solarbaby> btw if you want my opinion my best experience yet on the pi has been Arch
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[16:22] <Solarbaby> I'm absolutely brand new to using arch and it's fantastic on the pi
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[16:23] <thegorn> yea, i was pretty happy with arch but ran into some issues (this was quite a while ago) with getting ipv6 going
[16:23] <Solarbaby> thegorn: I wish I could say whether it's improved or not but I've not tried it.
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[16:37] <jancoow> hi guys
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[16:38] <fred1807> hi
[16:39] <IT_Sean> Ahoy
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[16:41] <jancoow> im gonna build and programm a home made quadcopter all by my self, using a raspberry pi a+
[16:41] <jancoow> just for learning how such things work and because its cool
[16:41] <jancoow> does someone has any tips for searching the parts?
[16:42] <jancoow> or other building tips?
[16:42] <IT_Sean> Google is usually a good place to start.
[16:42] <jancoow> yes i know i have found a lot of information on it
[16:43] <jancoow> but maybe someone has experience and could check if i order the right parts
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[16:43] <Bilby> jancoow the most common mistakes with motor / robotic connections are voltage and amperage
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[16:44] <Bilby> double check that your signal path and power path is correct for any voltage changes and provides sufficient current to motors and drivers
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[16:46] <jancoow> well, 1 lipo battery is enoufh for the motors and raspberry pi i think
[16:46] <jancoow> but i do need to read the voltage with the raspberry pi for a warning when the battery gets low
[16:46] <jancoow> (otherwise lipo will damage)
[16:46] <Bilby> you need a battery controller of some sort
[16:46] <Bilby> what voltage does the LiPo put out?
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[16:47] <t3chguy> Solarbaby: BerryBoot had an update a few weeks back
[16:48] <jancoow> 11,1 volt and i have a (cheap) auto charger that converts 12 volt to 5 volt for raspberry pi
[16:48] <Solarbaby> t3chguy: I used berryboot recently and it was very broken. unstable.
[16:48] <t3chguy> Solarbaby: I've used it 5 times now and had 0 issues, Pi1 or 2 and what sort of issues?
[16:48] <Solarbaby> t3chguy: if you choose regret, choose berryboot
[16:49] <Solarbaby> the OS would crash all the time
[16:49] <t3chguy> I never had that issue
[16:49] <Solarbaby> cool
[16:49] <Solarbaby> I did. I don't remember doing anything wrong.
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[16:49] <t3chguy> I blame PEBKAC
[16:50] <Bilby> jancoow, you definitely need a LiPo controller to handle battery charge state. What are you using for a motor controller?
[16:50] <Solarbaby> t3chguy: I bought a 64 gig micro sd card just for berryboot
[16:50] <Solarbaby> t3chguy: it pissed me off that I didn't get full use out of it. like I said unstable.
[16:51] <t3chguy> Solarbaby: i just used the 64GB MicroSDXC (I) card I already had
[16:51] <Solarbaby> t3chguy: maybe I'll give it another shot sometime soon
[16:51] <jancoow> bilby: should we talk in a private chat about that or do you wanna talk here?
[16:51] <Solarbaby> t3chguy: I'd love to be able to switch between Desktop and Kodi
[16:52] <Bilby> eh ~~ either way
[16:52] <Bilby> the chat's not that busy
[16:52] <t3chguy> Solarbaby: you could always just manually swap the conf files in your boot parittion
[16:52] <t3chguy> s/parittion/partition/
[16:52] <t3chguy> to point at two seperate userspace partitions
[16:52] <IT_Sean> Solarbaby: please mind your language, as per the channel policy.
[16:52] <jancoow> Bilby: oke ;p. Im using this one as ESC http://www.banggood.com/ZTW-Spider-Series-30A-OPTO-Brushless-Speed-Control-ECS-p-85722.html
[16:53] <jancoow> Bilby: well, i want to buy 4 of that one
[16:53] <Solarbaby> IT_Sean: I must be tired. I will be mindful of the rules.
[16:53] <jancoow> Bilby: and then a kinda PWM bord
[16:53] <IT_Sean> Thank you.
[16:53] <Solarbaby> np
[16:53] <jancoow> Bilby: So i can have 4 hardware pwm signals with a PI
[16:54] <Bilby> you've verified the controller works at 3.3v? I can't find any documentation
[16:54] <jancoow> Bilby: nope, didnt did that. I though you can send just pwm to it on any voltage but im going to check it now
[16:54] <Solarbaby> t3chguy: if I did that would I be able to avoid using berryboot?
[16:55] <t3chguy> sure Solarbaby
[16:55] <Bilby> You need a specific voltage - generally a 5V PWM would read a 3.3V signal as "high" but not always
[16:55] <Solarbaby> t3chguy: I read somewhere that berryboot was slower. so You're recommendation is a pretty good idea.
[16:56] <t3chguy> Solarbaby: https://mzeyrek.wordpress.com/2014/09/10/raspberrypi-tutorial-for-dual-boot/
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[16:56] <Solarbaby> t3chguy: thank you
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[16:58] <jancoow> Bilby:  Also, keep in mind that all opto ESCs require 5V power and gnd from your BEC or FCB or Rx. They do not draw circuit power from the battery connection, so each ESC requires a 3-wire connection (to the FCB for example). So i think the 3 wires are for: ground, 5v, 5v pwm signal right?
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[17:01] <Bilby> yes
[17:01] <jancoow> nice!
[17:02] <Bilby> Lika dis http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/reviews/976/BEC1.gif
[17:02] <jancoow> yes!
[17:03] <Bilby> So in this case you'd replace receiver with RasPi, and you'll probably want a level shifter of some sort
[17:03] <Bilby> you could try it on the bench without
[17:03] <jancoow> well, i think adding a seperate PWM chip that talks over I2C to the pi would be a better solution then software PWM
[17:04] <jancoow> or do you think the software pwm is fine?
[17:05] <Bilby> Hmm, I'm not sure
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[17:10] <jancoow> oke well i think its better to use a external one for cleaner PWM signals
[17:10] <jancoow> and what do you think about the lipo battery controller?
[17:10] <jancoow> im quite new to lipo battery's and i read a lot about it
[17:11] <jancoow> temperature and voltage are really important ;p
[17:11] <IT_Sean> yeah... they go BANG if mistreated.
[17:12] <jancoow> what should be the best way to monitor this, that my quad copter wouldn't do BANG? xD
[17:12] <jancoow> is there a board for the raspberry pi?
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[17:12] <IT_Sean> keep the voltage and temp in spec for the battery.
[17:12] <t3chguy> I had to revive a LiPo the other day
[17:12] <t3chguy> it was at 0.3v
[17:12] <IT_Sean> you will need a battery controller for that.
[17:12] <t3chguy> managed to get it functional again
[17:13] <t3chguy> its battery controller refused to function, thinking the battery was missing
[17:13] <jancoow> well, the charging will i do with a external battery charger
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[17:13] <jancoow> but could someone suggest me a battery controller for the pi?
[17:15] <t3chguy> jancoow: http://www.modmypi.com/raspberry-pi/breakout-boards/pi-modules/ups-pico
[17:15] <t3chguy> you can plug a LiPo right into that little HAT
[17:17] <jancoow> well, problem, lipo is 11.1 v
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[17:25] <jancoow> someone other suggestions?
[17:25] <jancoow> i can't really find any information
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[17:27] <ShorTie> 11.1v, your gonna need a buck converter to get to +5, from there ....
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[17:27] <jancoow> yes i want to use a cheap auto charger that contverts 6- 12 volt to 5 volt
[17:28] <jancoow> but i need to monitor the real voltage from the lipo, not the stepped down voltage
[17:28] <pentiumone133> i have a simple python script to set a GPIO pin 7 as output, set it high, then low, then high again...but when i run it, the program gets to the point where it should set the pin low, and it complains it has not been defined as an output
[17:28] <pentiumone133> i have "GPIO.setup(7, GPIO.OUT)" in the script
[17:28] <pentiumone133> im not sure why its complaining about it not being an output pin
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[18:03] <jancoow> in the mean time, could someone please help me with monitoring a lipo battery?
[18:04] <jancoow> or could i just hook up some resistors to pull down the voltage and read it with a ADC ?
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[18:12] <jancoow> https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10617
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[18:16] <jancoow> pentiumone133: could u show the whole script
[18:16] <t3chguy> jancoow: that only supports up 4.5V
[18:16] <t3chguy> http://cdn.sparkfun.com/datasheets/Prototyping/MAX17043-MAX17044.pdf
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[18:18] <jancoow> oh damn
[18:18] <jancoow> thanks
[18:18] <jancoow> stil couldnt find any method to monitor the lipo battery :O
[18:18] <t3chguy> just monitor the voltage
[18:18] <jancoow> but how?
[18:18] <t3chguy> make sure to never let it go below its rated minimum
[18:18] <jancoow> and is the temperature not important?
[18:18] <t3chguy> unless you're heavily loading it, it won't heat up
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[18:20] <jancoow> is a voltage divider something im looking for?
[18:20] <t3chguy> not really
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[18:20] <jancoow> what do you suggest?
[18:20] <t3chguy> you can't pull much current through a voltage divider
[18:20] <t3chguy> what are you trying to do?
[18:20] <t3chguy> monitor a LiPo battery without it being used or what?
[18:21] <jancoow> well, im planning to build a drone. So need to monitor the lipo voltage
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[18:21] <jancoow> so i though a voltage divider + mp3008
[18:21] <jancoow> or a chip with less analog inputs
[18:21] <t3chguy> if you use a voltage divider you'll need really high W rated Resistors to get much current through them
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[18:22] <jancoow> well, it shouldn't use nearly any power usage from the lipo
[18:22] <t3chguy> you need a buck converter to step it down to whatever voltage
[18:22] <t3chguy> and the monitor should monitor the source voltage
[18:22] <t3chguy> the load provided by the rest of the drone should be enough to monitor the voltage reliably using an ADC
[18:23] <giddles> hello
[18:23] <giddles> google drive does not accept my pi :(
[18:23] <giddles> 400 error
[18:23] <giddles> why?
[18:23] <giddles> anyone with experience that could Halp me?
[18:24] <jancoow> t3chguy: mm,, buck converter does convert the voltage down to a safe voltage to measure?
[18:24] <t3chguy> jancoow: you need to measure the source voltage
[18:24] <t3chguy> buck converters will provide a stable voltage
[18:24] <t3chguy> so you won't be able to measure that
[18:24] <jancoow> indeed
[18:24] <t3chguy> you could use some diodes to drop the voltage
[18:25] <t3chguy> it should be a reliable drop and that way you can bring it into the range of your ADC
[18:25] <t3chguy> or better yet
[18:25] <jancoow> could you give me an example of a circuit?
[18:25] <t3chguy> a 12V ADC
[18:25] <jancoow> does they exist?
[18:25] <jancoow> i'm not very good with electronics and with building a drone i would really like to learn so much more
[18:25] <t3chguy> I'd expect them to
[18:26] <t3chguy> You could use a voltage divider I guess but you do lose some accuracy
[18:26] <jancoow> mm
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[18:32] <giddles> is there a google development channel?
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[18:34] <jancoow> http://www.banggood.com/Wholesale-7_4V-14_8V-RC-Lipo-Battery-low-voltage-Alarm-Indicator-p-25595.html maybe a stupid solution but if i remove the buzzer, let the voltage from the buzzer be 3.3 volt and just measure it with a digital port on the pi, it should work xD
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[19:02] <Blaxto> Hello guys, I have a question regarding power on raspi 2 model B, I bought my first pi today and I only had a 5.35v 2A PSU lying around, i know 5v is the limit but could the extra 0.35v be enough to damage my system?
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[19:03] <giddles> try it? my rpi fall down from 2 metre height to creamic floor :) and still works
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[19:03] <pksato> Blaxto: 0.1V out.
[19:04] <pksato> And, have some loss on cable.
[19:04] <Blaxto> so it should be fine, right?
[19:04] <IT_Sean> Blaxto: the Pi is safe from 4.75v to 5.25v. the extra .1 will be lost on the cable. You will be fine.
[19:04] <pksato> I think, is ok to use.
[19:04] <Blaxto> awesome, thanks for the help
[19:04] <giddles> but no guarantee
[19:04] <giddles> .D
[19:05] <giddles> warranty
[19:05] <giddles> ?
[19:05] <giddles> use the manual specs ^^
[19:05] <pksato> 5.35 is on label?
[19:05] <giddles> i have no manual
[19:05] <pksato> or is a measured value?
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[19:05] <giddles> my dealer wanted to save transportation cost?
[19:05] <giddles> :D
[19:05] <Blaxto> it's on the label http://i.imgur.com/SwUNqgq.jpg
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[19:07] <pksato> Blaxto: have a USB port?
[19:07] <Blaxto> yep
[19:07] <pksato> on psu
[19:07] <pksato> ok. fine.
[19:08] <Kamilion> Someone pinged me?
[19:09] <Blaxto> I was also thinking on perhaps getting an external HDD so I can use it as a media server but I'm not really sure which to get, either a 2.5" and plug it directly to the pi or a 3.5" and power it externally
[19:10] <Blaxto> I would've liked to use a 2.5" since it would use less power and make less noise and I've seen some people do it but using a command to remove the limiter on the usb port, is this really safe to do?
[19:10] <Kamilion> Berg: what'dja need?
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[19:15] <IT_Sean> Blaxto: you are trusting your drive (and the data it contains) to a $35 device made by the lowest bidder. Define "safe".
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[19:17] <Blaxto> it not catching fire in the middle of the night might be reasonable :)
[19:18] <IT_Sean> in that caase, you will be fine.
[19:18] <NedScott> IT_Sean: The Raspberry Pi is not made by the lowest bidder
[19:18] <NedScott> it's made by Sony in the UK
[19:18] <IT_Sean> that's even worse!
[19:18] <giddles> hmm
[19:18] <IT_Sean> I trust the lowest bidder!
[19:18] <IT_Sean> but SONY!!!!
[19:18] <IT_Sean> (i'm kidding, of course)
[19:18] <t3chguy> Blaxto: if you want it to be less likely to be dangerous
[19:18] <t3chguy> use the thinnest MicroUSB cable you can find
[19:19] <giddles> An error occured creating Drive client: 0AuthError: updateToken: unexpected HTTP status 400 bad request <-- anyone who have any idea?
[19:19] <giddles> the others work fine, no difference in method of execute
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[19:22] <pksato> giddles: 400 bad request can be any error. no clue.
[19:22] <giddles> thanx
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[19:23] <giddles> ^^ so no offene i mean, thanx for response
[19:23] <pksato> ralated to connection procedure.
[19:23] <giddles> i expected this answer :(
[19:23] <pksato> can e https request on http connection
[19:23] <pksato> or inverse
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[19:23] <pksato> a wrong method.
[19:24] <giddles> i cant change methodis ;)
[19:24] <giddles> i even dont understand how this token works
[19:24] <giddles> ^^
[19:24] <pksato> not valid ssl key.
[19:24] <giddles> but i have a last idea
[19:24] <pksato> etc...
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[19:31] <giddles> hmm
[19:32] <Kamilion> t3chguy: that's somewhat bad advice; the thinner the wire, the more it will heat up when current flows through it.
[19:32] <giddles> is there another option to change keymap? it did not work @ sudo rpi-config
[19:33] <Kamilion> Blaxto: Get a good casing and a solid power source, the Pi is well built for it's price and size.
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[19:34] <Kamilion> Blaxto: your best bet is something like a Western Digital Blue-series or Green-series, as low RPM as you can find. 5400rpm or 4300rpm -- USB is not a speedy data bus, don't overspend.
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[19:49] <biberao> hi
[19:51] <t3chguy> Kamilion: better the wire heating up than the Pi's voltage regulator
[19:52] <biberao> t3chguy: are you the t3chguy omxplayer --win?
[19:52] <t3chguy> biberao: I was at one point in time
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[19:53] <knob> The rPip is made by Sony?
[19:53] <knob> News to me!
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[19:54] <nid0> https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/made-in-the-uk/
[19:54] <biberao> t3chguy: in a pal screen
[19:54] <biberao> using rca
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[19:54] <biberao> i dont know te coordinates
[19:54] <biberao> to split the screen since its not 1080
[19:57] <knob> nid0, nice link... good info too.
[19:57] <t3chguy> biberao: I've never used AV/RCA out of a Pi
[19:57] <t3chguy> always HDMI
[19:57] <biberao> my tv doesnt have hdmi
[19:57] <biberao> so im trying to split
[19:57] <biberao> cant you still help me out?
[19:58] <Kamilion> t3chguy: current is drawn; only the resistance of the wire would change that factor. The regulator will heat up exactly the same.
[19:58] <Kamilion> the only difference might lie in the voltage drop from the length of cable.
[19:59] <t3chguy> Kamilion: yes but the higher the resistance, the higher the voltage drop over the wire
[19:59] <t3chguy> which will put him more into the safe region dropping from 5.35
[19:59] <t3chguy> which is outside of the USB Spec of 5V +/- 5%
[19:59] <Kamilion> The easier solution is simply using a 'data only' cable that doesn't have the power conductors, and connecting to a powered USB hub.
[20:00] <Kamilion> rather, missing the positive power conductor, I believe the ground is still supplied
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[20:00] <t3chguy> you do realise he was on about his RPi's input power source
[20:00] <t3chguy> so trimming Vcc would prevent the Pi from booting
[20:00] <Kamilion> he already had that part taken care of.
[20:00] <t3chguy> its not about a USB Hub
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[20:01] <t3chguy> Kamilion: "18:04:25 @IT_Sean ‖ Blaxto: the Pi is safe from 4.75v to 5.25v. the extra .1 will be lost on the cable. You will be fine."
[20:01] <Kamilion> yep, he's quite right about that.
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[20:02] <Kamilion> it was your suggestion of a thin conductor that was the issue
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[20:02] <Kamilion> that would be fine if it was a data-only cable
[20:02] <Kamilion> but as for power; an inexpensive monoprice cable with low-loss connectors is probably the best.
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[20:04] <t3chguy> Kamilion: if the cable was of a high guage, then the voltage drop might be sub .1 and then the Pi would be outside of its rated voltage at which point it would be void of warranty
[20:04] <Kamilion> in his case; that wouldn't be the greatest idea, as IT_Sean mentioned. That's also a pretty beefy supply current, so the pi's ~300-500ma really isn't going to generate much of a voltage fluctuation over time
[20:04] <biberao> t3chguy: so nope?
[20:05] <IT_Sean> Guys... we're talkin about a tenth of a volt here... Use good cables, and stop worrying.
[20:05] <Kamilion> and there's always the question of aluminum conductor, copper coated aluminum conductor, or pure copper conductor.
[20:05] <Kamilion> in a related note, do not mix pure copper and pure aluminium. bad bad bad.
[20:05] <thegorn> i agree that the .1 probably won't matter, don't agree that it will be "lost on the cable"
[20:06] <jancoow> mm,, im now searching for a good flight controller for the rpi
[20:06] <jancoow> http://www.banggood.com/Flysky-FS-T6-V2-2_4GHz-6CH-Transmitter-For-V959-Syma-X1-Mode-2-p-73199.html
[20:06] <jancoow> could this one be programmed?
[20:06] <Kamilion> I had a battery fire in my electric scooter because the previous owner replaced one of the cables with "really good automotive wire" but used aluminium connectors.
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[20:06] <Kamilion> (the factory wiring is all aluminum)
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[20:29] <Apocx> hm
[20:29] <Apocx> you think this receiver could be used without its transmitter and instead receive wireless doorbell signals at 433.88MHz? : http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00M2CUALS
[20:29] <Apocx> I'm pretty sure it can but maybe I'm wrong
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[20:31] <ItsVoid> Hello
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[20:32] <ItsVoid> I'm new to this whole raspberry pi stuff
[20:32] <ItsVoid> I might buy one for some fun stuff
[20:33] <ItsVoid> would it be something for kids too?
[20:33] <ItsVoid> I know a few kids in my family that might be interested
[20:34] <mattrichardson> ItsVoid: Yes, Raspberry Pi is great for kids. In fact, it was created with kids in mind.
[20:34] <ItsVoid> Now thinking of it, I think it would be great to combine a raspberry pi with Minecraft Pi so those kids could learn Python
[20:34] <ItsVoid> Ahah
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[20:35] <ItsVoid> When buying a RPi (or I win a RPi), do I have to watch out for something
[20:35] <mattrichardson> Minecraft Pi is a great way to get kids into coding. I presume you've already seen this resource? https://www.raspberrypi.org/learning/getting-started-with-minecraft-pi/
[20:35] <ItsVoid> and is it HDMI only?
[20:35] <ItsVoid> Yup
[20:35] <mattrichardson> HDMI and composite video output.
[20:36] <ItsVoid> Hmm
[20:36] <mattrichardson> One day there will be an official screen that attaches to a dedicated connector on the board as well.
[20:36] <ItsVoid> Oh actually, I do have an hdmi port
[20:36] <ItsVoid> Thats great
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[20:38] <ItsVoid> I like it, small but powerful.
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[20:43] <ItsVoid> Anything else I need to know before buying a RPi?
[20:43] <ItsVoid> Kits?
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[20:43] <thegorn> i usually buy a kit to get the case/power supply/sd card, but can go either way
[20:44] <JK-47> ItsVoid: what do you want to use it for?
[20:44] <ItsVoid> Programming
[20:44] <ItsVoid> I already know stuff about linux etc
[20:44] <ItsVoid> But I'm interested in playing with Python
[20:44] <ItsVoid> and other stuff
[20:44] <ItsVoid> Aaaaaand maybe a replacement for my desktop
[20:44] <ItsVoid> don't do any gaming anyway
[20:44] <mattrichardson> ItsVoid: There are a lot of different kinds of kits. You might already have everything you need to get started: power supply, microSD, monitor, keyboard, mouse
[20:44] <ItsVoid> Power supply, what about that
[20:44] <ItsVoid> and I use wifi
[20:44] <ItsVoid> Wifi is pretty much a pain in the ass with some adapters
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[20:45] <IT_Sean> then you'll need a wifi adapter as well
[20:45] <ItsVoid> Wasn't there a Pi Wifi adapter made for Pi's
[20:45] <IT_Sean> ItsVoid: please mind your language. The channel language policy is linked in the topic.
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[20:45] <ItsVoid> Already got a wifi adapter by the way
[20:45] <IT_Sean> I dunno about "made for".... there are many that work with the Pi
[20:45] <ItsVoid> MicroSD
[20:45] <mattrichardson> ItsVoid: yes: http://swag.raspberrypi.org/collections/frontpage/products/official-raspberry-pi-wifi-dongle
[20:45] <ItsVoid> I got an 8gb microsd
[20:45] <ItsVoid> and a 2gb SDHC
[20:45] <IT_Sean> as for a power supply, you will want a 5v power supply, capable of delivering ~2a
[20:45] <ItsVoid> Mhmph
[20:45] <ItsVoid> Don't think I have one
[20:46] <ItsVoid> actually
[20:46] <ItsVoid> Is it a micro usb or one of those round ones
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[20:46] <IT_Sean> any decent USB phone or tablet charger should do.
[20:46] <thegorn> micro usb
[20:46] <mattrichardson> ItsVoid: MicroUSB
[20:46] <IT_Sean> the powah input on the Pi is a micro_usb port.
[20:46] <ItsVoid> Alright
[20:46] <thegorn> for wifi i bought one of these http://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-Wireless-Micro-Adapter-TEW-648UBM/dp/B004D41ECW
[20:46] <ItsVoid> Definitely have one then haha
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[20:46] <mattrichardson> ItsVoid: just make sure that it's a good one... provides at least 2A
[20:46] <thegorn> and it works fine, and is < $10, I bought it for $7 at microcenter actually
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[20:47] <ItsVoid> Looks like my tablet charger should work
[20:47] <ItsVoid> provides the exact same thing it needs
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[20:47] <ItsVoid> 2A
[20:47] <ItsVoid> 5V
[20:47] <IT_Sean> perfect.
[20:47] <mattrichardson> ItsVoid: Sounds like you're in good shape so far.
[20:48] <ItsVoid> For wifi, I think my adapter might work with it
[20:48] <mattrichardson> There's a good chance it will. Worth giving it a shot.
[20:48] <IT_Sean> Sounds like you have most everything you need.
[20:48] <ItsVoid> I have a wireless keyboard and mouse
[20:48] <IT_Sean> USB?
[20:48] <ItsVoid> It uses a usb adapter yes
[20:48] <ItsVoid> Worked in Ubuntu
[20:48] <IT_Sean> That'll work then
[20:49] <ItsVoid> I got everything what I need I guess
[20:49] <ItsVoid> haha
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[20:49] <ItsVoid> Hmm
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[20:49] <ItsVoid> Looks like I need a bigger sd card
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[20:51] <mattrichardson> ItsVoid: 8gb would be fine.
[20:51] <ItsVoid> Actually, I just need an sd card adapter
[20:52] <ItsVoid> Hmm
[20:53] <ItsVoid> I don't really have an sdcard reader
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[20:55] <IT_Sean> you will need one
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[20:56] <ItsVoid> Raspberry Pi or the 2
[20:57] <ItsVoid> Can't really choose
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[20:57] <k_j> hi
[20:57] <k_j> can rpi2 support 6,4V?
[20:57] <ShorTie> No
[20:57] <IT_Sean> no... the input voltage is 4.75 - 5.25v on any Pi
[20:57] <k_j> even if you overclock?
[20:58] <ShorTie> No
[20:58] <IT_Sean> you do NOT need to increase input voltage to overclock. Doing so will kill the Pi.
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[20:59] <k_j> what battery packs would you suggest?
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[21:25] <t3chguy> k_j: any voltage with a reliable step down
[21:25] <t3chguy> or a USB Power Bank
[21:25] <t3chguy> since they are made for the purpose of powering USB Powered devices
[21:26] <Bilby> *yawn*
[21:26] <IT_Sean> *yawn*
[21:27] <IT_Sean> darnit man... those are contagious!
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[21:27] <NedScott> breaking apart a USB backup battery seems like the most economical choice for pi projects that need battery power
[21:28] <IT_Sean> t3chguy: I would go with a USB power pack. This way it's alreday the right voltage, and has all the regulation and charge management built in.
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[21:28] <t3chguy> the only con about those is
[21:28] <t3chguy> 99% of them can't be charged whilst being used
[21:28] <NedScott> 99%?
[21:28] <IT_Sean> I wouldn't say 99%.
[21:29] <IT_Sean> That's a gross overestimation.
[21:29] <NedScott> all mine can be used while charging
[21:29] <NedScott> makes for a nice "UPS" too
[21:29] <IT_Sean> True, SOME of them cannot be, but many can.
[21:29] <jancoow> jup mines to
[21:29] <jancoow> works great with rpi
[21:29] <IT_Sean> Pretty sure my Anker USB battery pack can.
[21:30] <IT_Sean> And I know it'll run my Pi, as I've treid it.
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[21:31] <t3chguy> I've had over 80 different models of USB Power Bank over the years and none of them could
[21:31] <t3chguy> so its barely an overestimate in my sample
[21:32] <IT_Sean> 80?
[21:32] <IT_Sean> really?
[21:32] <IT_Sean> I find that hard to believe.
[21:32] <IT_Sean> Either that, or you are spending a LOT on battery packs.
[21:32] <t3chguy> I'd say only 30 I've owned personally
[21:32] <t3chguy> the other 50 at work or friends/family
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[21:36] <t3chguy> IT_Sean: got a link for that Anker one? Interested in one I can use as a UPS
[21:36] <t3chguy> well, sort of UPS, that doesn't power down the Pi
[21:36] <IT_Sean> t3chguy: I do not... Just look on Amazon for Anker USB battery. They make a bunch, in varying capacity.
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[21:49] <turtlehat> how much current can i safely draw from the 5v pin on the header?
[21:50] <turtlehat> would 200mA be ok for instance?
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[21:50] <turtlehat> (hello=
[21:50] <turtlehat> )
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[21:50] <t3chguy> AFAIK the 5V Rail is passed straight from the MicroUSB Port
[21:51] <t3chguy> so the limit is Limit of supply - use of the pi
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[21:51] <t3chguy> 200mA is likely okay
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[21:52] <turtlehat> i have a 2.1A supply for the rpi2
[21:52] <t3chguy> the MicroUSB Cable and thickness of circuit traces in the Pi are factors
[21:52] <t3chguy> also the trigger point of the polyfuse
[21:53] <turtlehat> im running the pi2 headless, with some ssh activity and network activity (sometimes with full blast on all cores)
[21:53] <t3chguy> the processor doesn't vary that much in current use
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[21:53] <t3chguy> its mostly peripherals
[21:53] <t3chguy> like Wireless USB normally uses quite a bit
[21:54] <turtlehat> ah, so i should be fine, right?
[21:54] <t3chguy> You should be yes
[21:54] <turtlehat> nice
[21:54] <turtlehat> thanks
[21:54] <t3chguy> nothing bad can happen from it
[21:54] <t3chguy> the worst is your polyfuse is tripped and you need to wait for it to heal
[21:54] <turtlehat> except for sd card corruption
[21:54] <turtlehat> hehehe
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[21:54] <t3chguy> well from a bad shutdown yeah, I guess
[21:54] <t3chguy> if you use a journalling file system it shouldn't hurt you much
[21:55] <turtlehat> pretty sure its ext4
[21:55] <biberao> t3chguy: so you have no idea to help me?
[21:55] <t3chguy> biberao: I don't use AV output so no, sorry
[21:55] <t3chguy> I don't even use my Pi or omxplayer that much lately
[21:55] <biberao> :|
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[21:58] <giddles> yeh it works!
[21:58] <giddles> @ google drive rpi
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[21:58] <giddles> only god or *** or whoever knew why..
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[21:59] <biberao> giddles: what wer eyou doing
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[22:02] <giddles> ow i upload jpegs to google drive if some movement on my pinoircam happen
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[22:28] <biberao> t3chguy: it seems it wasnt you
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[22:42] * Keanu73 sits back and relaxes
[22:43] <Keanu73> the nice smell of a freshly new installed Raspbian :)
[22:43] <Keanu73> I smell pis
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[22:45] <giddles> hmm
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[22:45] <giddles> 3m coolant connector glue smells like..
[22:45] <giddles> china?
[22:45] <PerJr> as in several Pi's?...since "pis" is piss in danish... just..fyi :)
[22:45] <giddles> piss is in german also not nice ;)
[22:46] <giddles> http://img.planespotters.net/photo/312000/original/HB-JAL-Crossair-Embraer-ERJ-145_PlanespottersNet_312085.jpg in arabia :) ... also not nice so...
[22:46] <Keanu73> well
[22:46] <Keanu73> I'm talking about
[22:46] <Keanu73> Pis
[22:46] <Keanu73> not that stupid **** word
[22:47] <Keanu73> You know, Raspberry Pis
[22:47] <Keanu73> :D
[22:47] <PerJr> yah, thought so :)
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[22:47] <biberao> Keanu73: you use omxplauyer
[22:47] <biberao> giddles: ?
[22:47] <biberao> PerJr: ?
[22:47] <PerJr> biberao: ?
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[22:47] <Keanu73> mhm
[22:47] <Keanu73> I do use omxplayer
[22:47] <biberao> you guys use omxplayer
[22:48] <Keanu73> I do
[22:48] <biberao> https://www.bitpi.co/2015/03/18/raspberry-pi-surveillance-monitor/
[22:48] <biberao> trying to mimic these
[22:48] <biberao> but for a smaller screen
[22:48] <biberao> the math seems hard
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[22:49] <Keanu73> d.. wat
[22:49] <Keanu73> really
[22:49] <Keanu73> you can hack into camera
[22:49] <Apocx> what math?
[22:49] <Keanu73> s
[22:49] <biberao> Apocx:
[22:49] <biberao> the window size
[22:49] <Apocx> that's like, simple subtraction/division
[22:49] <biberao> Apocx: its a sdtd
[22:49] <biberao> Apocx: its a sdtv
[22:49] <biberao> i have
[22:50] <biberao> help me out
[22:50] <biberao> setup atleast 6 windows
[22:50] <Apocx> and they aren't hacking anything, just getting the camera stream
[22:51] <biberao> Apocx: can you help
[22:51] <biberao> ?
[22:52] <Apocx> not really no. unless you know what resolution your display is
[22:52] <biberao> its a sdtv
[22:52] <Keanu73> dangit
[22:52] <biberao> pal
[22:52] <Keanu73> Wish I had a RPi camera.
[22:52] <Keanu73> parents won't buy me one :C
[22:52] <Apocx> right so that doesn't help me any
[22:52] <biberao> Apocx: why
[22:52] <giddles> no Keanu73
[22:53] <giddles> i have RpiNoIR camera
[22:53] <giddles> thats what you want
[22:53] <giddles> :)
[22:53] <giddles> common 840nm ir works
[22:53] <giddles> perfect
[22:53] <Apocx> how bout you connect your pi to your tv and determine what resolution it reports in raspbian. and go from there.
[22:54] <Apocx> most sdtvs I know are like 720 x 480 or smaller
[22:54] <biberao> Apocx: how do i do that
[22:54] <biberao> lol
[22:54] <k_j> i would really like to know why exactly 1 time of 2 my tplink usb wifi card fails to get the ip from the dhcp
[22:54] <biberao> i have the pi connected to the tv
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[23:01] <biberao> Apocx: the size is 720x576
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[23:03] <Apocx> so 720 / 3 = width of each window and 576 / 2 = height of each window for a total of 6 windows (3 top, 3 bottom)
[23:04] <Apocx> or you can do 2 across and 3 tall for a setup like the one you linked
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[23:18] <Keanu73> Does Raspbian use a vulnerable version of ntpd?
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