#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2015-09-04

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[0:56] <KB3VGW> everyone is fired hand over your boards and your addon hardware .comeback on monday to see who gets thier hardware back
[0:57] <KB3VGW> lol
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[1:40] <Berg> RIGHT
[1:40] <Berg> i dont have *A* board
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[2:00] <Encapsulation> niston, how is everything?
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[2:35] <pksato> IBM 1401 http://www.righto.com/2015/08/examining-core-memory-module-inside.html
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[2:39] <Encapsulation> where is medical advice channel?
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[2:47] <SyncYourDogmas> Not sure if joking but there's non emergency hot lines
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[4:39] <The_Borg> Honey I'm home
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[4:42] <ozzzy> did you have a hard day?
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[4:43] <pksato> nrf24l01 to track wifi interfernce?
[4:45] <The_Borg> No I drank beer and lazed about with naked females
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[4:53] <The_Borg> I need c ode that shows me how to get info outa my pcf8591in python with the right addresses that show temp and light sensor
[4:53] <The_Borg> any help?
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[4:58] <ozzzy> c code in python
[4:58] <ozzzy> what?
[4:58] <methuzla> c code in python?
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[4:59] <methuzla> i think you mean Java in VBA using PHP extensions
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[4:59] <The_Borg> python
[5:00] <methuzla> talking about this? http://www.nxp.com/documents/data_sheet/PCF8591.pdf
[5:01] <The_Borg> The actual module with light temp and voltage sensors in one unit
[5:01] <The_Borg> on sec
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[5:02] <The_Borg> i can get the light sensor to diplay a varying output but the temp seems to be related to light output
[5:02] <The_Borg> http://www.ebay.com/itm/PCF8591-AD-DA-converter-module-analog-to-digital-to-analog-conversion-Arduino-/170934293952?hash=item27cc7a55c0
[5:02] <The_Borg> this
[5:03] <The_Borg> i have been looking at this but i dont understand its output
[5:03] <The_Borg> http://blog.chrysocome.net/2013/03/programming-i2c.html
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[5:06] <The_Borg> I have this code but this is like the temp is tied to the light secsor
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[5:09] <methuzla> The_Borg ever done any i2c programming?
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[5:10] <The_Borg> not
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[5:10] <The_Borg> i been looking at stuff for i2cdetect etc but i cant work out what address holds what values on that module
[5:11] <methuzla> did alice1101983 supply a schematic?
[5:12] <The_Borg> ???
[5:12] <The_Borg> who is alice
[5:13] <The_Borg> http://doc.chipfind.ru/pdf/philips/pca8591.pdf
[5:13] <The_Borg> its the oops
[5:13] <The_Borg> wrong
[5:13] <methuzla> the owner of ebay page you linked
[5:14] <The_Borg> thats just the module they give no data sheet
[5:14] <The_Borg> i have one just a sec
[5:15] <methuzla> not a data sheet for the PCF8591
[5:15] <methuzla> a schematic for the board you bought that has that and other stuff on it
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[5:17] <The_Borg> none
[5:17] <The_Borg> it only has schematic for chip
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[5:18] <methuzla> good luck
[5:18] <The_Borg> thats why i asking here
[5:18] <The_Borg> im having no luck
[5:18] <The_Borg> http://blog.chrysocome.net/2012/12/i2c-analog-to-digital-converter.html
[5:19] <methuzla> talking to the PFC8591 via i2c is one thing
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[5:19] <methuzla> making sense of the results based on what's been attached to it is another
[5:20] <The_Borg> yeah
[5:20] <The_Borg> i understand
[5:20] <The_Borg> i have suggested code but its failing
[5:20] <The_Borg> the one in paste bin actions temp out put when light level is changes
[5:20] <The_Borg> i have the wrong addresses
[5:20] <The_Borg> simple
[5:22] * The_Borg rolls about in the mud getting protection from bugs
[5:22] <The_Borg> ok back later
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[5:29] <methuzla> The_Borg that last link you sent seems somewhat useful. were you able to get any of that to work?
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[5:33] <methuzla> The_Borg maybe schematic: https://brainfyre.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/clip_image0023.jpg
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[5:40] <methuzla> The_Borg google "pcf8591 python" to see how others have interface via python
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[5:48] <The_Borg> i got info outa the last link on how to read the output but not what the output means
[5:48] <The_Borg> methuzla:
[5:49] <The_Borg> ILL JUST TRY THAT SEARCH
[5:49] <methuzla> it's the 8 bit value in hex
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[5:55] <The_Borg> found some interesting code with your keyword search methuzla
[5:55] <The_Borg> https://github.com/jacotronix/net.jacotronix.python.PCF8591P/blob/master/PCF8591P/PCF8591P.py
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[10:56] <FireGaming> So uhm
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[10:57] <fnurl> anybody here got any experience with pinet?
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[10:57] <fnurl> i'm having trouble (for a few days now) connecting the thin clients to a network printer
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[11:08] <FireGaming> Is there any alternative to berryboot for multiple OSs? I want to dual boot between Rasplex and RetroPi, but BerryBoot has issues with my WiFi dongle. Like...major issues. And I can't get an ethernet cable to that part of the house and powerline isn't an option because all the rooms are on different circuits.
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[11:36] <at0m> FireGaming: "noobs" maybe?
[11:37] <FireGaming> Can you install custom OSs with noobs or are you limited to what they offer on the menu?
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[11:40] <fennesz> Hello everyone ! Can someone tell me what the best way AC voltage present on a circuit might be ?
[11:41] <Stanto> fennesz: what?
[11:41] <fennesz> Stanto, yes sorry . didn t type correctly
[11:42] <fennesz> I would like to monitor the presence of AC Voltage on a circuit . And give this as an input to rpi
[11:42] <FireGaming> at0m: see above
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[11:43] <ShorTie> relay
[11:43] <fennesz> i was thinking of using a ac relay on the high power circuit that would energize the coil once the voltage is present.
[11:43] <fennesz> Would that be a good way of doing this ?
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[11:44] <fennesz> would the high power circuit interfere with the low power one ? E.g. inducing noise on the circuit ?
[11:45] <at0m> FireGaming: no idea.
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[11:47] <ShorTie> it should isolate things well enough
[11:47] <ShorTie> if wired right
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[11:48] <FireGaming> *sigh* I suppose I'll have to buy another SD and swap them around all the time
[11:48] <ShorTie> that is the best way to do multi boot
[11:49] <ShorTie> or just get another pi all together
[11:49] <FireGaming> also the most expensive :D
[11:49] <FireGaming> oh well
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[11:52] <FireGaming> lol this was supposed to be a budget system now its everything but that :D
[11:53] <ShorTie> welcome to the real world of play .. :/~
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[11:56] <fennesz> ShorTie, thank you !
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[12:01] <ShorTie> Your Welcome
[12:01] <ShorTie> No Problem
[12:02] <fennesz> one more question . Is there a way I can measure the inrush current of a relay coil using AC Voltage?
[12:02] <fennesz> or calculate it somehow
[12:03] <ShorTie> you could try a multi-meter
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[12:04] <ShorTie> but current inrush like that is fast, so don't really think you will see the peak
[12:05] <ShorTie> on a relay coil, i would not think it would be much to worry about though
[12:05] <ShorTie> more worry about that with motors
[12:06] <Stanto> "FireGaming> *sigh* I suppose I'll have to buy another SD and swap them around all the time" or learn more about linux and set it up yourself?
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[12:07] <ShorTie> booting a pi and boot linux not real close, otherwise why would they not use like grub
[12:12] <fennesz> Thank you ShorTie
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[12:17] <timothy> hi, is there any way to see the undervoltage or overtemperature warning via ssh or dmesg?
[12:18] <Stanto> ShorTie: fennesz your loss :)
[12:18] <Stanto> oops fennesz sorry didn't mean to tab you in :)
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[12:28] <FireGaming> Yeah if i could dual boot it with normal linux methods i would've
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[12:33] <Night-Shade> FireGaming: I use u-boot on my pi
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[12:33] <Night-Shade> works very well for multiple OS loading
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[12:33] <Night-Shade> gives you full control over the kernel cmd line etc and can read ext2/3/4 and vfat
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[12:34] <FireGaming> I'm assuming it is quite difficult to set up
[12:34] <Night-Shade> not really
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[12:34] <Night-Shade> 10 mins for me
[12:34] <FireGaming> Ah okay cool I'll look into it
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[12:35] <Night-Shade> I've blogged about it here: https://blog.night-shade.org.uk/2015/05/booting-a-raspberry-pi2-with-u-boot-and-hyp-enabled/
[12:35] <Night-Shade> you can ignore the bits about hyp mode
[12:35] <Night-Shade> unless you want to play with QEMU on the pi
[12:35] <Night-Shade> but that's how I setup booting a pi with u-boot
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[12:37] <FireGaming> I'm assuming I'll have to do this on my Debian server
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[12:38] <Night-Shade> you can compile uboot on the pi
[12:38] <Night-Shade> it'll be a bit slow thou
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[12:38] <FireGaming> I also need to figure out how to do serial console. fun
[12:39] <Night-Shade> serial console is easy
[12:39] <Night-Shade> buy a serial cable from one of the pi suppliers
[12:39] <Night-Shade> plug it in
[12:39] <Night-Shade> run screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200
[12:39] <Night-Shade> done
[12:40] <FireGaming> can I do it at all over ethernet?
[12:40] <Night-Shade> https://learn.adafruit.com/downloads/pdf/adafruits-raspberry-pi-lesson-5-using-a-console-cable.pdf
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[12:43] <Night-Shade> http://elinux.org/RPi_U-Boot for more detailed instructions, I think there is ethernet support for the Pi in uboot but not tried it
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[12:44] <FireGaming> oh man I'm stupid at linux this stuff is going over my head :D If there wasnt step by step instructions I'd be SOL
[12:46] <Night-Shade> easiest way to dual boot in that case might be to buy 2 RPis
[12:47] <Night-Shade> I gave up on multi booting the pi and just brought another one, not worth the hours of tinkering to get it working right when they are so cheap
[12:49] <FireGaming> I mean Berryboot does it pretty well if only it wasn't for the one single compatibility issue
[12:49] <FireGaming> They aren't so cheap here though, not since our exchange rate went to heck so buying another is a sizable investment. But I'll see
[12:49] <Night-Shade> ah fair enough
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[12:52] <Night-Shade> if it was me I'd dual boot with u-boot and swap the env file about from the OS to control what booted next
[12:52] <Night-Shade> so have 2 env files on the vfat partition at the start of the SD card
[12:52] <Night-Shade> and when you want boot to the other os swap them from the running os and restart
[12:55] <FireGaming> Thing is this Pi is going to be used by people who aren't neccesarily very linux literate, I would like for it to just be able to reboot and bring up a boot selection thing
[12:55] <Night-Shade> hmm that cuts out u-boot console then
[12:56] <FireGaming> i guess I'm just going to try to make berryboot work
[12:56] <FireGaming> if all else fails I'll just buy another SD card
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[12:58] <Night-Shade> unless you can add a button that says "boot the other OS" can calls a script to move the files about
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[13:00] <bstarek> hello all
[13:00] <bstarek> anybody knows about next-gen raspberries?
[13:00] <bstarek> hardware specs
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[13:00] <ShorTie> ttisn't any
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[13:52] <knob> Good morning!
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[13:53] <Armand> Dafternoon.
[13:54] <shiftplusone> o/
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[13:55] <Armand> I need to find some game devs. :/
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[13:57] <shiftplusone> for?
[13:57] <ozzzy> developing games I'd guess
[13:57] <Armand> I've had a tabletop game sat in my archives for years.. I wanted to make a PC version, but PCs weren't really up to it at the time.
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[13:58] <shiftplusone> A PC that couldn't handle a tabletop game?
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[13:58] <Armand> We were talking about mad-level physics.
[13:58] <Armand> Best I had then was an Athlon XP. :P
[13:59] <shiftplusone> I get the impression that tabletop simulator could be used for something like that
[13:59] <Armand> It would be an RTS/FPS hybrid.
[14:01] <Armand> The level of detail I want would have been a struggle for most PCs back then.
[14:01] <Armand> Very realistic physics.
[14:01] <Armand> velocity, material density, etc.
[14:02] <ozzzy> I can't imagine any game back then tasking an Athlon XP
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[14:03] <Armand> ozzzy: I think I would sum it up as comparable to running a current title on a 486. :P
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[14:05] * ozzzy owned a few Athlon XPs.... they were pretty good processors
[14:05] <Armand> I had one, the XP 2400+ at 2.4GHz
[14:05] <ozzzy> and you think it wouldn't play a table game of that era?
[14:05] <Armand> Not tabletop, *Based* on a tabletop game..
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[14:06] <Armand> As I said, more like an RTS/FPS hybrid.
[14:06] <ozzzy> well... if it wouldn't work on an Athlon XP it probably won't work on a raspbi
[14:06] <Armand> I think it's very doable now, but I don't know the first thing about coding/dev stoofs.. I'm a Systems Tech.
[14:07] <Armand> I very much doubt it would..
[14:10] <shiftplusone> Armand: so... what would be the advantage of using actual physics rather than the usual stats and dice roll approach?
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[14:15] <DelphiWorld> hi raspians
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[14:16] <DelphiWorld> anyone using uv4l?
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[14:22] <shiftplusone> not moi
[14:23] <Armand> shiftplusone: Just the way I want it to work.. Actual results of velocity over density, rather than a game of chance.
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[14:34] <shiftplusone> Curious about how the actual tabletop version works. Got a manual/rulebook somewhere?
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[14:35] <Armand> shiftplusone: I do, but it's stashed away at home.
[14:35] <shiftplusone> ah
[14:35] <Armand> If you've ever played Necromunda/Gorkamorka, it's very similar.
[14:36] <Armand> Much more detail in the character development and weapons/upgrades.
[14:36] <shiftplusone> *blank stare*
[14:36] <Armand> lol
[14:36] <ozzzy> never heard of either of those
[14:36] <Armand> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necromunda
[14:37] <shiftplusone> I have a few friends who always try to get me into tabletop games... I usually zone out about 20 seconds into them trying to explain the rules. It's like my brain just goes 'nope' no matter how hard I try to pay attention.
[14:37] <shiftplusone> The only one I got was blood bowl
[14:37] <Armand> That's me, when people talk about anything codey. :P
[14:37] <Armand> "huh?"
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[14:37] <shiftplusone> heh
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[14:38] <Armand> The basic premise is simply a tabletop skirmish game.
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[14:38] <Armand> Movement/shooting ranges, dice rolls, injuries, etc.
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[14:42] <shiftplusone> That I can understand... kind of.
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[14:43] <shiftplusone> I prefer those sorts of things on PC, since otherwise I have to refer to the rulebook for everything. Much rather it showed me the probabilities or actions and did the calculations in the background
[14:44] <shiftplusone> So we ended up playing blood bowl on FUMBBL and there's also a proper PC version... think there's a new version coming out, but I'm not really as committed as they are, so... I'll be passing.
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[15:07] <Armand> shiftplusone: I guess there could be an assessment of probability built-in, but I really don't know how I'm going to push the game dev.
[15:07] <Armand> I suppose I need to sit down with a few gamers and discuss how the game should go together.
[15:07] <shiftplusone> Oh, I'm sure people who actually like these games wouldn't want to know the chances, since it seems like you're trying to make it a game of skill rather than an RNG
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[15:08] <shiftplusone> I'm just talking about dummies like myself
[15:08] <Armand> lol
[15:08] <Armand> I don't like the whole random chance thing..
[15:09] <Armand> I'd rather know that if my character is firing a high-powered rifle at a wooden board, it's going through.. where-as a heavy steel door would deflect the impact.
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[15:12] <shiftplusone> Sure, but even with physics, there's an element of probability. You could represent the thickness and density of the things it's going through and model how it would get deflected or when it would be stopped using the traditional approach
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[15:13] <Armand> Yeah.. so, at least more realistic than rolling a D6. ;)
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[15:21] <shiftplusone> Well... better make it run well on the pi then.
[15:21] <Armand> Sure.. I can cluster about 500 of them to make the back-end servers. ;)
[15:23] <DelphiWorld> shiftplusone: lol, not vous!
[15:24] <SyncYourDogmas> shiftplusone: quantum events are true randomness, though
[15:24] <Armand> Yeah, too much. :P
[15:25] <shiftplusone> SyncYourDogmas: or do we just not have enough information? Or does 'true randomness' illusory altogether? Or is it actually a well defined mathematical concept and? (Hint, it's the last one)
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[15:28] <SyncYourDogmas> It's certainly not well defined, whether or not it may turn out to be deterministic
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[15:30] <shiftplusone> In mathematics... sure it is... there are all kinds of randomness and resulting distributions.
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[15:33] <SyncYourDogmas> I mean true randomness, total unpredictability
[15:34] <shiftplusone> there's a difference between randomness and unpredictability, but it sounds like you're talking about philosophy rather than.... things that matter =P
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[15:40] <SyncYourDogmas> That's how it was explained in cryptography. Of course I am :p does anyone run any bots on their pis, low bandwidth like Irc or reddit?
[15:41] <Armand> We have one IRC bot on a Pi, but I have no clue how it's done.
[15:41] <Armand> Don't even have access to it.
[15:42] <DoctorD90> shiftplusone: thx for case/hat video ;)
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[15:42] <DelphiWorld> anyone have a small buildroot image?
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[15:42] <shiftplusone> DelphiWorld: for what? I have a few, but they're customized to do things...
[15:43] <DelphiWorld> shiftplusone: any one, just to boot it up and see
[15:43] <shiftplusone> DoctorD90: You're welcome, kind sir. I've tried it out since and can confirm that it works well
[15:43] <ozzzy> I wonder how random random.org's generator is
[15:43] <shiftplusone> DelphiWorld: NOOBS is a buildroot image.... Boot into noobs, press ctrl-alt-f1 and you're in a minimal environment.
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[15:43] <shiftplusone> ozzzy: judging by the name, probably pretty random.
[15:43] <DoctorD90> uh great! so i can purchase it...when i will get $$ xD ....many thx :)
[15:44] <DelphiWorld> shiftplusone: you have one with kodi?
[15:44] <shiftplusone> DelphiWorld: nope, but that's kind of what openelec is... not really buildroot, but similarly lean.
[15:44] <shiftplusone> I think they've added systemd and stuff now, but it should still be pretty minima.
[15:44] <shiftplusone> *minimal
[15:45] <DelphiWorld> shiftplusone: yes but i hate it. very limited
[15:45] <shiftplusone> I don't think buildroot is the answer if you don't want to be limited
[15:45] <ozzzy> ahh... they're using atmospheric noise as a seed
[15:45] <nid0> you want a minimal buildroot but not limited?
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[15:46] <DelphiWorld> nid0: i could use opkg to build my own packages, or get from openwrt repo
[15:46] <DelphiWorld> but openelec is closed you can't even compile something
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[15:46] <DoctorD90> i will not purchase hat of rpi btw...it is more expensive than singular piece on adafruit :P
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[15:47] <DelphiWorld> shiftplusone: debian is my loved distro, but love to play
[15:47] <shiftplusone> Linux From Scratch.... fun for the whole family. Go build your Kodi distro that wya.
[15:47] <shiftplusone> *way
[15:48] <shiftplusone> See you in a few months
[15:48] <DoctorD90> kodi distro?
[15:48] <DelphiWorld> oh lfssssssssss! :p
[15:48] <DelphiWorld> :P
[15:48] <DelphiWorld> :P
[15:48] <DelphiWorld> shiftplusone: seriously if you have a buildroot image push me let me try
[15:49] <shiftplusone> NOOBS....
[15:49] <DoctorD90> im building my own debian version :) once i will do it as i need, i will test to do it, for rpi too! ^^
[15:49] <shiftplusone> https://github.com/raspberrypi/noobs
[15:50] <shiftplusone> or https://downloads.raspberrypi.org/NOOBS_lite_latest
[15:50] <DelphiWorld> shiftplusone: i want to try buildroot cause i was playing with openwrt dayly
[15:50] <shiftplusone> The other image I have is for testing sense hats, so I'd rather not send that one out, heh.
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[15:51] <SpeedEvil> Fortman mason
[15:51] <SpeedEvil> oops
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[15:51] <DelphiWorld> lol
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[15:53] <nid0> now i'm curious about the context and whether the name being wrong was intentional
[15:54] <DelphiWorld> nid0: name of?
[15:54] <nid0> I assume he meant Fortnum & Mason
[15:54] <DelphiWorld> LOL
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[15:56] <DelphiWorld> shiftplusone: NOOB look pretty amazing
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[15:57] <shiftplusone> Not sure, if amazing is the right word... people are quite divided on it
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[15:58] <DelphiWorld> for a beginer yes is it pretty cool
[15:59] <shiftplusone> Except for when you ask people what distro they are running and they say 'noobs' or you ask them whether they used noobs and they tell you they run raspbian.
[15:59] <DelphiWorld> lol shiftplusone
[16:00] <TheLostAdmin> I never used noobs. Just downloaded the raspbian image and burned it to an SD card.
[16:01] <shiftplusone> That's what I do too. But I do find the mechanism NOOBS uses to boot from different partitions useful sometimes.
[16:01] <shiftplusone> So I have a microsd card with multiple distros without NOOBS and I can boot into different ones when I need to do different things.
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[16:03] <Tenkawa> hi all
[16:04] <shiftplusone> Hello sir
[16:04] <Tenkawa> hey.. whats new?
[16:05] <shiftplusone> Armand thinks he needs to model the universe for a tabletop game on PC. DelphiWorld is fascinated by NOOBS... I had some tea....
[16:05] <shiftplusone> all exciting things...
[16:05] <Armand> hehehe
[16:05] <Tenkawa> haahaa
[16:05] <shiftplusone> Another guy just says 'Fortman mason' with no context.... there was some discussion about that.
[16:05] <Tenkawa> more games!!!!
[16:05] <TheLostAdmin> I wasn't aware that NOOBS could be configured like a boot manager. That could actually be quite handy. Can it be configured to use different kernels?
[16:06] <shiftplusone> TheLostAdmin: yes, different kernels AND/OR firmware
[16:06] <shiftplusone> It switches the partition start.elf and the rest of the files are loaded from.
[16:06] <nid0> my (nearly) finished pi project is also new
[16:06] <shiftplusone> Just bootcode.bin has to be the same across the distros.
[16:06] <TheLostAdmin> I think I'll have to take a look. Now for the BIG question. Can it be configured to use a sort of fall-back option (like boot partition 2, if it fails, boot partition 1?
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[16:07] <shiftplusone> TheLostAdmin: Nope, but you can get into a recovery environment from it if you mess things up.
[16:07] <TheLostAdmin> I ask because I'm leaning towards setting up my pi to use NFS root and it would be handy to have a fallback if the NFS server is down.
[16:07] <Tenkawa> I'm still torn between making all of my rpis debian or mixing a few slackware installs in
[16:08] <shiftplusone> TheLostAdmin: you could configure that, but it would require a little script on your 'NFS' distro.
[16:08] <TheLostAdmin> recovery environment with SSH support by chance? I run headless. Maybe I should go read some docs on NOOBS.
[16:08] <shiftplusone> TheLostAdmin: if it fails, write to the reboot partition register the 'fallback' and reboot.
[16:08] <shiftplusone> I don't think it has SSH (yet?). Not sure though.
[16:08] <Tenkawa> dropbear would be nice and small to add onto noobs I'd think
[16:08] <TheLostAdmin> I can handle scripts.
[16:09] <DelphiWorld> yep dropbird is very small
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[16:10] <shiftplusone> TheLostAdmin: alright, sec....
[16:11] <shiftplusone> TheLostAdmin: /sys/module/bcm2709/parameters/reboot_part
[16:11] <shiftplusone> Write the /boot partition number you want in there and reboot.
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[16:15] <DoctorD90> shiftplusone: sorry about question but: if i debootstrap an arm enviorenment, chroot it, set it...then what i have to do to run it on a rpi?
[16:16] <DoctorD90> do you know who may help me to learn that step?
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[16:17] <shiftplusone> DoctorD90: You'll need to make sure your first partition is fat32 and that you have the kernel and firmware there
[16:17] <shiftplusone> kernel7.img for the pi2, kernel.img for the pi1.
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[16:18] <shiftplusone> DoctorD90: take a look at raspbian-ua-netinst or spindle
[16:18] <DoctorD90> so i have probably to compile kernel bynmy self?
[16:18] <DoctorD90> i go to google!
[16:18] <shiftplusone> DoctorD90: nope. Which repo do you intend to use?
[16:18] <shiftplusone> Is this plain debian?
[16:19] <Tenkawa> for plain debian the raspbian kernels can be used right?
[16:19] <shiftplusone> yes, but you'll want to be careful about how you grab them
[16:19] <DoctorD90> atm, im buildint/testing with a 686pae debian, using official repo. My intent is to grab my "distro" for rpi too
[16:19] <Tenkawa> indeed
[16:19] <shiftplusone> Raspbian, foundation or rpi-update kernels are options.
[16:20] <Tenkawa> ansd make sure to grab all of the /lib/modules stuff
[16:20] <Tenkawa> and depmod
[16:20] <DoctorD90> atm, for 686pae im using official debian repo. for rpi...i dont know :P
[16:20] <shiftplusone> The easiest would be to use rpi-update, but you don't get the packaging goodness.
[16:20] <Tenkawa> indeed
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[16:21] <DoctorD90> yes Tenkawa :P during first steps, i got kernel panic, due to i didnt update depmod
[16:21] <Tenkawa> yeah i've done that before heehee
[16:22] <DoctorD90> really? oh great :)
[16:22] <DoctorD90> i have followed "will haley custom debian" guide, but i have to fix many stuff, due to it was outofdate
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[16:25] <DoctorD90> Tenkawa: add that i do all from a live system, so i got error about update-initramfs :P heheh..fortunally i have fixed it ^^
[16:25] <DoctorD90> shiftplusone: what repo should i use for rpi?
[16:25] <shiftplusone> Up to you
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[16:25] <DoctorD90> official repomi found in sources.list on rasbian?
[16:26] <shiftplusone> Each one has it's upsides and downsides.
[16:26] <shiftplusone> Hell, you could base it on ubuntu
[16:26] <DoctorD90> i want not create a my own personal repo, i would use official repo only :) because i want not to create a diferent packaging or something else :)
[16:29] <DoctorD90> 1.why? id like "stability" of debian :P 2.what are pro/contro of official raspbian repo for example?
[16:31] <shiftplusone> Raspbian is optimized for the pi1. Although Debian isn't really 'optimized' for anything and you won't see any performance difference, you could argue it's more suited for the pi 2.
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[16:31] <shiftplusone> But raspbian provide their own kernel and firmware packages (which are out of date somewhat)
[16:31] <Tenkawa> debian works great on my pi2's
[16:34] <shiftplusone> But I would argue that no better than raspbian would've
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[16:34] <Tenkawa> shiftplusone: yeah a lot of it is personal preference
[16:34] <Tenkawa> thats a lot of the reason i still run slackware a lot
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[16:34] <shiftplusone> Oh dear
[16:35] <shiftplusone> I got in on linux after the slackware days, so I don't really know what the fuss is.
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[16:35] <Tenkawa> yes I'm ancient
[16:35] <shiftplusone> More ancient that [Saint]? Is that possible?
[16:36] <Tenkawa> i started on linux in 93
[16:36] <Tenkawa> unix in the 80's
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[16:38] <DelphiWorld> shiftplusone: maybe stupid question, but any recomandation for a home media center distro except of openelec?
[16:38] <shiftplusone> So I would've been five... I think I was just playing prince of persia in DOS at the time.
[16:38] <DoctorD90> oh, well....so i'd provide a generic arm version with debian repo. and for rpi, using raspian repo...good to know!
[16:38] <shiftplusone> DelphiWorld: The only suggestion I have sounds like shnopenschnelec.
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[16:38] <Tenkawa> heeheheh nice game
[16:38] <KB3VGW> ok I have a question
[16:39] <Tenkawa> Myst ftw....
[16:39] <DelphiWorld> Lol ShadowJK
[16:39] <KB3VGW> on the pi-2
[16:39] <DelphiWorld> lol shiftplusone
[16:39] <KB3VGW> why did they not put the 2x4 hearder for i2s
[16:39] <KB3VGW> http://blog.koalo.de/2013/05/i2s-support-for-raspberry-pi.html reaading this
[16:40] <KB3VGW> but I have no 2x4 pin holes on the board and my board is only 2 months old
[16:40] <DoctorD90> may i will purchase rpi v2 in next months, or a new updated version is scheduled? :P
[16:40] <KB3VGW> the pi-2 is nice for what you get
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[16:43] <KB3VGW> I am hoping the pi-3 gets upto 1.5 ghz
[16:43] <KB3VGW> and a way to attach a emmc module
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[16:46] <KB3VGW> I have serveral
[16:46] <Armand> eMMC, for sure. :D
[16:47] <KB3VGW> I have a u3/3 c1/1/c1+ / 1 xu3/ and will be ordering a xu4
[16:47] <KB3VGW> u3/3 is really 1 u2 and 1 u3
[16:47] <KB3VGW> and I had a x2 but gave it to a friend for use as a desktop machine
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[16:48] <Armand> I have a single U3, but I'm planning to buy a set of the XU4s. :)
[16:49] <KB3VGW> I like odroids . the only thing I am doing with the pi-2 is our openrepeater project
[16:49] <DelphiWorld> KB3VGW: you are a ham radio?
[16:49] <KB3VGW> and trying to get the wm8731 wich I find should be support but I cant find the overlay file for it
[16:49] <KB3VGW> yes this is my call sign
[16:50] <DelphiWorld> KB3VGW: welcome from 7X2SW
[16:50] <KB3VGW> I am a Ham Operator not a Ham Radio
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[16:50] <DelphiWorld> lol KB3VGW just error history completion:P
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[16:51] <shiftplusone> When you hams start talking, I get hungry =(
[16:51] <DelphiWorld> KB3VGW: anything good to use with rpi & ham?
[16:51] <KB3VGW> so we have a board in dev that uses the wm8731
[16:51] <Tenkawa> a rpi tnc combo would be cool
[16:51] <DelphiWorld> CQ 7X2SW here
[16:51] <KB3VGW> right now only developing our repeater project on it
[16:51] <KB3VGW> well get developing
[16:51] <Tenkawa> heheehh
[16:51] <DelphiWorld> i wish to have a tn
[16:51] <DelphiWorld> tnc
[16:52] <DelphiWorld> Tenkawa, KB3VGW: a rpi controlled TS2000 would be awesome for me as a blind person
[16:52] <Tenkawa> indeed
[16:52] <DelphiWorld> Tenkawa: then flite or espeak to speak out the actual freq
[16:53] <KB3VGW> http://www.cnx-software.com/2015/05/20/lemon-pi-board-is-a-35-raspberry-pi-2-alternative-powered-by-actions-semi-s500-soc-crowdfunding/
[16:53] <KB3VGW> lol
[16:53] <Tenkawa> wow that would be very neat
[16:53] <DelphiWorld> lol
[16:53] <Tenkawa> DelphiWorld: i wish i was still in hardware design
[16:53] <DelphiWorld> Tenkawa: :)
[16:54] <DelphiWorld> Tenkawa: components here are pretty rar
[16:54] <Tenkawa> the other project i had thought of was bringing wefax type functionality
[16:54] <DelphiWorld> or should i say pretty lzma2:)
[16:54] <Tenkawa> DelphiWorld: not xz?
[16:54] <DelphiWorld> lol
[16:54] <Tenkawa> i assume you were talking the compression algorithms yes?
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[16:55] <DelphiWorld> Tenkawa: i say electronic component is very rar
[16:55] <DelphiWorld> then joked by switching from rar to lzma
[16:55] <DelphiWorld> :)
[16:55] <Tenkawa> ok i was thinking right.
[16:55] <Tenkawa> thought thats where you were going with the lzma switch
[16:55] <DelphiWorld> lol
[16:55] * Tenkawa tries to remember crc details from the early 80's
[16:56] <KB3VGW> I think its funny how many arm boards are still being developed that are still only dual core when you can get a quad
[16:56] <Tenkawa> heheheh
[16:56] <Tenkawa> KB3VGW: a lot of time theres no need for the cores or the scheduler overhead of 4
[16:56] <DelphiWorld> Tenkawa is old while i'm pretty younger
[16:56] <Tenkawa> DelphiWorld: heheheheheheheh
[16:57] <DelphiWorld> KB3VGW: without doing a whois lookup on your ip, is your ISP AOL?
[16:57] <KB3VGW> maybe
[16:57] <KB3VGW> no
[16:57] <Tenkawa> DelphiWorld: i still remember when ncr was a player in unix
[16:57] <DelphiWorld> ok
[16:57] <KB3VGW> TMobile right now
[16:58] * KB3VGW is living in company bunkhouse and there is no internet here right now
[16:58] <Tenkawa> KB3VGW: good luck with the repeater project btw
[16:58] <DelphiWorld> i remember the entire 172.X.X.X ip pool was with aol
[16:58] <KB3VGW> so I lve on my phone ap
[16:58] <Tenkawa> DelphiWorld: those were the days
[16:58] <DelphiWorld> lol
[16:58] <KB3VGW> I miss compuserve
[16:59] <Tenkawa> haahaa
[16:59] <Tenkawa> good ole compuserve
[16:59] <KB3VGW> ok what dir are the hardware overlays in
[16:59] <KB3VGW> aka the device tree overlays
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[17:01] <KB3VGW> I need to find the wm8731 overlay
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[17:01] <KB3VGW> or the proto board overlay
[17:04] <Tenkawa> just a sec
[17:04] <shiftplusone> KB3VGW: https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/blob/rpi-4.1.y/arch/arm/boot/dts/overlays/rpi-proto-overlay.dts
[17:04] <shiftplusone> is that what you're after?
[17:04] <Tenkawa> yeah there
[17:04] <Tenkawa> they should get copied over to /boot
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[17:04] <Tenkawa> after dtbs are generated
[17:06] <KB3VGW> ok
[17:06] <KB3VGW> looking but I dont see it on the /boot
[17:06] <Tenkawa> you can use dtc to compile them manually i think
[17:07] <Tenkawa> compiled or non-compiled versions?
[17:07] <KB3VGW> its there
[17:07] <Tenkawa> ok cool
[17:07] <KB3VGW> ok so now I jut have to add it to the boot config.txt
[17:07] <shiftplusone> /boot/overlays/rpi-proto-overlay.dtb
[17:08] <KB3VGW> yes
[17:08] <Tenkawa> shiftplusone: thanks
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[17:08] <Tenkawa> dont have a box handy to look it up
[17:08] <KB3VGW> tryiny to get the codec proto board working
[17:08] <Tenkawa> didnt bring any of them with me today
[17:08] <KB3VGW> http://www.mikroe.com/add-on-boards/audio-voice/audio-codec-proto/
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[17:09] <KB3VGW> the other thing I would like to see the pi do is like the bbblack
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[17:09] <Tenkawa> what aspect?
[17:09] <Tenkawa> i have many bbb's too
[17:09] <KB3VGW> make the microusb socket a power and network interface
[17:09] <Tenkawa> i still need to get a odroid-c1
[17:09] <Tenkawa> ahhh
[17:09] <KB3VGW> now a c1+
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[17:09] <Tenkawa> oooh
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[17:10] <KB3VGW> that way you can take the pi and work on it in the field with out having to use the seriel interface
[17:10] <Tenkawa> nod
[17:10] <KB3VGW> and fight to keep the wires in place
[17:11] <KB3VGW> but I dont know if te usb interface is just power on the pi-2 or if its a full interface
[17:12] <KB3VGW> shiftplusone, using the proto setup should enable this board correct
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[17:13] <KB3VGW> http://www.mikroe.com/add-on-boards/audio-voice/audio-codec-proto/
[17:13] <shiftplusone> I am not familiar with I2S
[17:13] <shiftplusone> Is the 'reg' property right for you?
[17:14] <KB3VGW> http://www.mikroe.com/add-on-boards/audio-voice/audio-codec-proto/
[17:14] <KB3VGW> this looks liek they did the work
[17:14] <KB3VGW> so it shoul dbe
[17:15] <shiftplusone> Are I2S devices addressable?
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[17:15] <shiftplusone> actually, nvrm...
[17:15] <KB3VGW> thats for the pi 2x4 header thats not on the pi-2
[17:15] <shiftplusone> Looks like the address is for I2C coms
[17:16] <KB3VGW> This driver adds support for digital audio (I2S)
[17:16] <KB3VGW> for the BCM2708 SoC that is used by the
[17:16] <KB3VGW> Raspberry Pi. External audio codecs can be
[17:16] <KB3VGW> connected to the Raspberry Pi via P5 header.
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[17:16] <KB3VGW> i wounder if they plan to put that header on the pi-2
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[17:17] <at0m> nothing
[17:17] <at0m> oops was pgup'd
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[17:17] <KB3VGW> is there plans to add i2s to the next pi-2
[17:18] <KB3VGW> or pi2.1
[17:18] <shiftplusone> I am a little confused... What are the BCM pin numbers you need for I2S?
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[17:20] <shiftplusone> 18-21 or 28-31, I gather
[17:21] <DelphiWorld> shiftplusone: i'm more confused thant you, i couldn't even connect a single relay
[17:21] <KB3VGW> not sure just found the artical abotu the i2s pinout onthe pi boards
[17:21] <DelphiWorld> shiftplusone: i need a sighted person to help
[17:22] <KB3VGW> DelphiWorld, they make a har that you plug on
[17:22] <KB3VGW> to the pi
[17:22] <KB3VGW> look for the relay hat
[17:22] <shiftplusone> I see that GPIO18-21 Are available on the standard header ont he B+ and pi2
[17:23] <shiftplusone> So you do have I2S there...
[17:23] <KB3VGW> http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/83-16519?t=2&utm_expid=8634549-27.0czCl7fSQamjILoiAH9mgA.1&utm_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Felectronics.mcmelectronics.com%2Felectronics%2FRaspberry-Pi-Hat
[17:23] <KB3VGW> ok
[17:23] <KB3VGW> ok cool
[17:24] <shiftplusone> Lol.... why would they take a photo with the extender header having bent pins
[17:24] <KB3VGW> lol dont know but just helping by showing the board for DelphiWorld to read about
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[17:28] <KB3VGW> ok well now I have to figure the proto board connection to the pi2
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[17:35] <KB3VGW> O need 1 board now
[17:35] <KB3VGW> the 40 pin breakout to bread board adapter
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[17:36] <KB3VGW> i have 1 for the c1 but the markings are diff
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[17:36] <annoymouse> How much do you think it would cost in electricity to run a Raspberry Pi server for a month?
[17:36] <Tenkawa> brb
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[17:37] <KB3VGW> 3 bucks
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[17:38] <Tenkawa> much better
[17:38] <KB3VGW> less if you put it on a deep cycle marine battery
[17:38] <KB3VGW> and make a 12v to 5v inverter
[17:38] <Armand> Wouldn't that be a regulator, not inverter ?
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[17:39] <KB3VGW> and if your not using any usb/gpio then you can cut it lower amp wise to mi
[17:39] * Armand is not an EE. :P
[17:39] <KB3VGW> yes sorry
[17:39] <KB3VGW> 12v to 5 v down verter
[17:39] <JK-47> a Pi with keyboard @ $0.07/kwh is $0.09/mo or $1.14/yr
[17:39] <KB3VGW> you can buy them on ebay
[17:39] <Armand> I power mine from solar, so the cost is relative to the cost of the equipment.
[17:40] <JK-47> more you plug into it, itll raise up, though not alot
[17:40] <KB3VGW> yes
[17:40] <KB3VGW> so you have a solar panel and a 12v batt with downverter
[17:41] <KB3VGW> I have been working on a setup like this
[17:41] <KB3VGW> but using a odroid c1
[17:41] <KB3VGW> we are making a portable repeater box
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[17:41] <KB3VGW> that will have solar panel and batt and a on board radio board
[17:42] <KB3VGW> that will be in a pelican case
[17:42] <KB3VGW> but the bigger issue is poweringthe 2 handhelds and the c1/pi2 from 1 batt
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[17:42] <KB3VGW> it kills it alot faster
[17:43] <KB3VGW> but we are looking at the arduino board and working to convert it to our board
[17:43] <KB3VGW> as out board is only a interface board right now
[17:44] <KB3VGW> https://www.google.com/search?q=openrepeater+interface+board&rlz=1C1AVNE_enUS650US650&espv=2&biw=1600&bih=785&tbm=isch&imgil=LnJzWE-Ihq-VDM%253A%253B92MlQZGneEk6zM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fopenrepeater.com%25252Fblog%25252Fa-sneak-peak-at-the-future-of-openrepeater&source=iu&pf=m&fir=LnJzWE-Ihq-VDM%253A%252C92MlQZGneEk6zM%252C_&usg=__SQnqXR5EsRR1CJasWiWUWuPiq2E%3D&ved=0CCsQyjdqFQoTCOKNp7Hc3ccCFZFOkgodPxYIAg&ei=WLzpVeKBEJGdyQS_rKAQ#imgrc=LnJzWE-Ihq-
[17:44] <KB3VGW> VDM%3A&usg=__SQnqXR5EsRR1CJasWiWUWuPiq2E%3D
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[17:44] <KB3VGW> lol
[17:45] <KB3VGW> http://openrepeater.com/blog/a-sneak-peak-at-the-future-of-openrepeater
[17:45] <KB3VGW> better point
[17:45] <KB3VGW> lol
[17:45] <at0m> clean urls ftw
[17:46] <KB3VGW> the first one was a bad link
[17:46] <KB3VGW> sorry
[17:46] <shiftplusone> Hmm.... If you somehow run your pi at 2A (you won't) 24/7 for a year, it will use 10% of the energy an average clothes drier would've over that time.
[17:46] <KB3VGW> and juan and I spent 3 months deving the board
[17:47] <shiftplusone> http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=5v+*+2A+*+%28hours+in+a+year%29
[17:47] <shiftplusone> http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=87.6+kilowatt+hours
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[18:05] <KB3VGW> how do you add a overlay to config.txt
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[18:07] <shiftplusone> KB3VGW: https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/device-tree.md
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[18:11] <KB3VGW> cool book marked it
[18:11] <KB3VGW> thanks shift trying to get this proto board up and tested
[18:11] <KB3VGW> so I can duplicate it whe we get our board done
[18:11] <KB3VGW> now I have to get the pinout right
[18:11] <shiftplusone> It will have an eeprom, right?
[18:12] <KB3VGW> the chip has one
[18:12] <KB3VGW> the 8731 has a eprom
[18:12] <KB3VGW> ?
[18:12] <KB3VGW> why
[18:13] <KB3VGW> o to load the dtb onto so when plugged on it autoloads
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[18:13] <KB3VGW> thats in the plans
[18:13] <shiftplusone> yup
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[18:15] <KB3VGW> at the min the proto board has no eprom
[18:15] <KB3VGW> epprom
[18:15] <KB3VGW> so I have to put it in the config.txt
[18:15] <KB3VGW> now to get the pin out
[18:16] <shiftplusone> Well yeah, I'd leave programming the eeprom till last, since you'll probably want to make a few changes before you're ready to release it.
[18:16] <KB3VGW> yeah
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[18:23] <KB3VGW> looking for the wm8731 to i2s pinout
[18:23] <KB3VGW> thats next
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[18:27] <KB3VGW> i2s or i2c but not finding a pinout to proper layout
[18:27] <KB3VGW> for this board
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[18:28] <KB3VGW> almost there thou
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[18:29] <KB3VGW> shift thanks thus far I just want o make sure we get this working correct for our board
[18:30] <shiftplusone> Best of luck. Seems like it will be a handy board.
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[18:34] <KB3VGW> yeah ok 5 of the 7 connections are done
[18:34] <KB3VGW> ok where is the i2s pinout list
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[18:36] <KB3VGW> seem to be missing 2 pins
[18:36] <KB3VGW> adcl or dacl
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[18:36] <KB3VGW> the board does not id
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[18:54] <Flerb> So I decided to use my Pi as an alarm clock that plays a daily recorded wake up message, reads out the titles of the emails I've received overnight, tells me my school timetable for that day, then plays the BBC News bulletin for that day.
[18:54] <Flerb> Probably be quite a cool project
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[18:54] <mattrich_> Flerb: Cool, looking forward to seeing it!
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[18:55] <Flerb> mattrichardson: any ideas as to the TTS engine to use?
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[18:55] <Flerb> It'd be nice if there were free naturally sounding ones
[18:55] <Flerb> With APIs
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[18:58] <mattrichardson> Flerb: I was a technical editor on this project, which did TTS locally: http://makezine.com/projects/make-42/universal-translator/ I can't remember what engine was used.
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[19:03] <Flerb> mattrichardson: looking at the source code, think it uses the google translate API
[19:04] <mattrichardson> Flerb: Oh does that offer TTS as well?
[19:04] <Flerb> appears to
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[19:05] <KB3VGW> shiftplusone, http://pastebin.ca/3152105
[19:05] <KB3VGW> I have 2 wires not set because I dont know where to pug them
[19:05] <KB3VGW> adcl/dacl pins
[19:05] <shiftplusone> no idea... haven't played around with any of that specific hardware
[19:06] <mgottschlag> KB3VGW: adcl/dacl do not sound like i2s or i2c
[19:06] <KB3VGW> ok
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[19:07] <KB3VGW> hmm
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[19:07] <KB3VGW> well I was trying i2c first
[19:07] <mgottschlag> hm, which part was this? wm8731?
[19:08] <mgottschlag> the datasheet does not have any such pin
[19:08] <mgottschlag> so you might want to look the pins up in your module's datasheet and see what they really are
[19:09] <mgottschlag> there are adclrc and daclrc pins, which are the left/right clock pins (or word clock pins, or whatever)
[19:09] <KB3VGW> http://www.mikroe.com/add-on-boards/audio-voice/audio-codec-proto/
[19:09] <KB3VGW> thats the board i am working with
[19:11] <KB3VGW> and its not coming up on i2c I have it wired to the pins
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[19:12] <KB3VGW> ok and where do the connect
[19:14] <KB3VGW> just working to get this chip tested before the board is done
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[19:18] <KB3VGW> mgottschlag, any imput
[19:19] <KB3VGW> http://pastebin.ca/3152120
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[19:20] <mgottschlag> look at that board's schematics and see how those lines are connected to the WM8731, I bet those are the LR clock
[19:20] <mgottschlag> but that should not matter w.r.t. I2C
[19:21] <mgottschlag> that chip responds even without anything on the I2S lines
[19:21] <mgottschlag> I happen to have one where I have tested I2C, but didn't get to anything else yet
[19:21] <KB3VGW> http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~sedwards/classes/2008/4840/Wolfson-WM8731-audio-CODEC.pdf
[19:21] <mgottschlag> so, how did you wire the board to the pi?
[19:22] <mgottschlag> both lines need to be connected to LRCLK
[19:22] <KB3VGW> I have the breakout board
[19:22] <mgottschlag> (probably, didn't look at the datasheet)
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[19:22] <KB3VGW> ok and what pin is the lrclk
[19:22] <mgottschlag> you know how I2S works?
[19:23] <KB3VGW> trying i2c first
[19:23] <mgottschlag> lrclk does not have anything to do with i2c
[19:23] <KB3VGW> http://www.tjaekel.com/T-DAC/files/RPi-Bplus_guideline.pdf
[19:24] <teclo-> hi there, I connected a USB thumb drive in my Raspberry Pi and it didn't automount... ?
[19:24] <KB3VGW> thats the i2s setup
[19:25] <KB3VGW> but this is confusing
[19:25] <KB3VGW> ok trying spi sorry
[19:26] <mgottschlag> huh?
[19:26] <mgottschlag> spi?
[19:26] <KB3VGW> he device is controlled via 2 wire (I2C) or 3 wire (SPI) serial interface.
[19:26] <mgottschlag> what I'd suggest is that you take e.g. WiringPi and write a short program which manually tries to communicate with the chip
[19:26] <mgottschlag> to see whether the wiring is bad, or whether the driver just does something stupid
[19:27] <mgottschlag> the board does not look as if it supports SPI
[19:27] <KB3VGW> ok but I have to get the pins righ t
[19:27] <KB3VGW> says it does
[19:27] <mgottschlag> the pins labelled as MISO/MOSI/SDK are most likely I2S instead
[19:27] <KB3VGW> ok
[19:27] <KB3VGW> sck
[19:28] <mgottschlag> but really, try to find the schematics of that board
[19:28] <mgottschlag> or you will be just guessing how to wire it
[19:29] <KB3VGW> http://www.mikroe.com/downloads/get/1463/acodec_manual_v100.pdf
[19:29] <mgottschlag> GND/3.3V/SDA/SCL should be all you need for now though
[19:29] <KB3VGW> is the only schemaic i find
[19:29] <mgottschlag> and then "what I'd suggest is that you take e.g. WiringPi and write a short program which manually tries to communicate with the chip"
[19:29] <mgottschlag> yeah, MISO/MOSI are connected to the I2S outputs/inputs of the chip
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[19:31] <KB3VGW> ok
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[19:39] <KB3VGW> so they goto the mosi miso ports on the breakout right
[19:39] <mgottschlag> hm?
[19:39] <KB3VGW> wish someone had documented this board and how they got it working
[19:40] <KB3VGW> all I found is that some one did but did not document it
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[19:45] <KB3VGW> trying to learn but never had to wire a board up before
[19:45] <KB3VGW> dontt get mad
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[19:47] <KB3VGW> http://blog.koalo.de/2013/05/i2s-support-for-raspberry-pi.html
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[19:47] <KB3VGW> is what I am following also
[19:48] <mgottschlag> did you test with a multimeter whether your I2C lines have the right level in idle?
[19:49] <CarpeMofo> Hello, I'm having trouble with the RCA out on my Raspberry PI running retropie. I think maybe for some reason it's outputting PAL when I need NTSC but I don't know how to change that setting.
[19:49] <mgottschlag> if they have proper pullups, and it still does not work, then you will have to dig deeper and play with the raw device (with raw C WiringPi programs) to see what's wrong
[19:49] <mgottschlag> or, if there are existing programs to scan the I2C bus, you can use those
[19:52] <KB3VGW> the thing is there is no pin to pin document for it and I am doing my best I have just started my side of learning to get into hardware
[19:52] <fred1807> anyone knows C ? Could help me find where is the image position set in this pngviwer? Right now it is centered
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[19:53] <KB3VGW> from what I read all the code is there and there its a dtb overlay
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[19:53] <KB3VGW> and that some one else got it working but did not full document it
[19:54] <KB3VGW> this is what I hate itf you get it working document it for others
[19:54] <mgottschlag> when you integrate a module like this, you *always* end up with it not working, and then you have to start looking for errors
[19:54] <mgottschlag> and you won't get it to work unless you do so systematically and step by step
[19:56] <mgottschlag> KB3VGW: try http://www.raspberry-projects.com/pi/programming-in-python/i2c-programming-in-python/using-the-i2c-interface-2 first
[19:56] <mgottschlag> remove your DT overlay and try those steps and see whether you can detect the codec on the I2C bus
[19:57] <mgottschlag> and if not, describe your current wiring between pi and codec board (detailed!)
[19:57] <KB3VGW> I just pulled all the wires
[19:58] <KB3VGW> the issue is knowing what wiregoes where . I have sda going to sda on the breakoutboard header
[19:58] <KB3VGW> then the scl going to scl
[19:59] <KB3VGW> miso and msoi to thier pins on the breakout header
[19:59] <mgottschlag> which miso pin, which mosi pin?
[19:59] <mgottschlag> (on the pi?)
[19:59] <mgottschlag> also, SDA/SCL with a pullup resistor on these wires, or did you enable those in the pi?
[19:59] <KB3VGW> and I have the 3.3 v and pi-2
[20:00] <mgottschlag> I2C needs pullup resistors on both wires, although the pi can be configured to use the internal pullups
[20:00] <mgottschlag> ... and you probably connected ground, right?
[20:00] <KB3VGW> yes and 3.3v
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[20:00] <mgottschlag> https://learn.adafruit.com/using-the-bmp085-with-raspberry-pi/configuring-the-pi-for-i2c
[20:02] <fred1807> guys, pls, help me find where is the image position set in this png view tool: https://github.com/AndrewFromMelbourne/raspidmx/blob/master/pngview/pngview.c
[20:02] <KB3VGW> ok i2cdetect is not on here where do I pull it
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[20:05] <KB3VGW> i jusy did a pkg search containing i2cdetect and it shows no pkgs where do I get i2cdetect
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[20:06] <mgottschlag> any other similar i2c tools available?
[20:06] <KB3VGW> got it
[20:06] <KB3VGW> the i2c-tools was not installed
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[20:08] <KB3VGW> turned off overlay
[20:10] <KB3VGW> i2cdetect -y 0
[20:10] <KB3VGW> Error: Could not open file `/dev/i2c-0' or `/dev/i2c/0': No such file or directory
[20:10] <shiftplusone> try 1
[20:10] <KB3VGW> ok it got something
[20:10] <KB3VGW> 10 /a 1a
[20:10] <shiftplusone> i2c0 is 'reserved' for the firmware
[20:11] <KB3VGW> ok
[20:11] <shiftplusone> i2c1 is what's free for the arm
[20:11] <KB3VGW> ok
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[20:12] <KB3VGW> ok so it is getting info back from the board
[20:12] <KB3VGW> if I unplug the miso and mosi it gets nothign back
[20:13] <KB3VGW> so the board is responding
[20:13] <mgottschlag> miso and mosi? wtf
[20:13] <mgottschlag> eh
[20:13] <mgottschlag> sry
[20:14] <shiftplusone> all good
[20:14] <mgottschlag> but only sda/scl should be used
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[20:14] <mgottschlag> also, is 0x1a the expected address?
[20:14] <KB3VGW> ?
[20:15] <KB3VGW> this is the first time I have touched this board
[20:15] <mgottschlag> well, what does the documentation of the wm8731 say?
[20:15] <mgottschlag> (w.r.t. I2C address)
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[20:17] <KB3VGW> i2c-1 i2c 3f804000.i2c I2C adapter
[20:17] <CarpeMofo> I'm having trouble with the RCA out on my Raspberry PI could someone please help me?
[20:17] <biberao> pi2?
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[20:18] <KB3VGW> the docs are not saying
[20:18] <KB3VGW> the docs for this oard sucks
[20:18] <KB3VGW> biberao, ?
[20:18] <biberao> KB3VGW: i meant CarpeMofo
[20:19] <CarpeMofo> biberao: Yes, it's a Pi 2 running Retropie.
[20:19] <biberao> whats the problem
[20:19] <mgottschlag> KB3VGW: you might want to practice reading datasheets :)
[20:19] <mgottschlag> the WM8731 datasheet mentions an I2C address, I am pretty sure
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[20:19] <CarpeMofo> biberao: I'm trying to use the RCA out, but the image is all gray and weird looking, I think maybe it's running in PAL rather than NTSC, I'm not sure though. Either way, I don't know how change it.
[20:20] <biberao> you need to change cmdline.tct
[20:20] <biberao> you need to change cmdline.txt
[20:20] <CarpeMofo> biberao: Can I do that through SSH or do I need to put the SD card into my PC and change it that way?
[20:21] <biberao> i believe cmdline is on mount not sure
[20:21] <biberao> or you can edit it on another p
[20:22] <CarpeMofo> So being on Mount means it can't do it through SSH?
[20:23] <biberao> you can i believe
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[20:24] <KB3VGW> not finding it in the data sheet
[20:24] <lambdak0re> what's the easy way to control an continuous servo with RPi?
[20:24] <lambdak0re> I tried some code but the servo does not move as it should
[20:26] <mgottschlag> KB3VGW: page 43, "2-Wire MPU Interface Address Selection"
[20:26] <mgottschlag> but looks as if the device you saw wasn't just random noise (I had that situation already)
[20:27] <mgottschlag> so go ahead and connect all I2S lines, and try again with your proper I2S drivers
[20:27] <mgottschlag> also connect the LRCLK lines
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[20:30] <KB3VGW> ok thius is where I am still lost on the pin out
[20:32] <KB3VGW> thats the thing they dont give the pinout for i2s for the board
[20:32] <KB3VGW> that I find and I have been hunting docs all day
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[20:32] <mgottschlag> then look at the schematics, and look up the corresponding pins of the WM8731 chip
[20:32] <KB3VGW> sorry this is learnign I get it but not documenting it is a pain
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[20:32] <mgottschlag> that one's documentation has proper I2S names
[20:33] <mgottschlag> or at least a description
[20:33] <KB3VGW> the issue is the bouard has a 8 pin header
[20:34] <mgottschlag> http://www.mikroe.com/downloads/get/1463/acodec_manual_v100.pdf <- e.g. ACD-MISO is connected to DACDAT on the WM8731 chip
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[20:34] <mgottschlag> so you can look into the datasheet to look up *that* pin
[20:34] <mgottschlag> *DAT are the data lines, *LRC are the LRCLK line, *SCK is the BCLK line
[20:35] <mgottschlag> oh, actually, there *is* a description on page 3 of that document
[20:35] <mgottschlag> below "The function of pins:"
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[20:36] <KB3VGW> which doc you one
[20:37] <KB3VGW> on I have 5 open
[20:37] <KB3VGW> http://www.mikroe.com/downloads/get/1463/acodec_manual_v100.pdf
[20:37] <KB3VGW> this one
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[20:37] <mgottschlag> yes
[20:38] <KB3VGW> ok
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[20:39] <KB3VGW> ok so I nave to go out to in and in to out
[20:40] <KB3VGW> on the mosi miso ports
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[20:41] <KB3VGW> sorry I guess I am to brain dead t grasp this at the min
[20:41] <KB3VGW> I am following the doc and the pin out
[20:42] <KB3VGW> but nit getting the i2s oins
[20:42] <KB3VGW> pins
[20:42] <mgottschlag> if you want me to check anything, you'd have to draw what you wired together
[20:42] <mgottschlag> well, what did you wire together now?
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[20:43] <KB3VGW> I am using the 40pin pi sda to sda scl to scl
[20:44] <KB3VGW> miso to miso and msio to msio
[20:44] <KB3VGW> and 3.3 to 3.3 and gnd to gnd
[20:44] <CarpeMofo> biberao: Ok, I still can't get it to work, do you happen to know where I can find the relevant information? I've seen a site before that I think has the info I need but I can't find it.
[20:44] <milk_base> KB3VGW: this is the part where you and I have consentual sex.
[20:44] * milk_base rapes KB3VGW
[20:45] <KB3VGW> why
[20:45] <mgottschlag> KB3VGW: the pi's miso/mosi do not have anything to do with i2s
[20:45] <milk_base> you're into that kind of stuff, slut. You liked that. It's your fault, you're dressing like a slut.
[20:45] <mgottschlag> milk_base: seriously? -.-
[20:45] <mgottschlag> shiftplusone: ping
[20:45] <KB3VGW> mgottschlag, ok so then
[20:45] <mgottschlag> you need to use the I2S data pins instead
[20:45] <milk_base> mgottschlag: racist.
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[20:46] <mgottschlag> Davespice: ping
[20:46] <KB3VGW> ok so
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[20:46] <mgottschlag> alright, thx
[20:46] <shiftplusone> mgottschlag: thanks
[20:47] <KB3VGW> pin 35/38/40
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[20:48] <IT_Sean> wow... damn dude.
[20:49] <IT_Sean> Nice kill shiftplusone. I was in another chan
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[20:50] <shiftplusone> booted into orbit
[20:52] <KB3VGW> mgottschlag, ok so mosi msio goto pin 20/21
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[20:53] <KB3VGW> othats done
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[20:56] <KB3VGW> and dacland adcl goto lrclock right
[20:59] <mgottschlag> probably
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[20:59] <KB3VGW> ok then this should be wired up
[21:00] <KB3VGW> sck goes to sclk
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[21:02] <KB3VGW> no you saidsck goes to the bclk
[21:03] <KB3VGW> ok
[21:03] <KB3VGW> then it shows up uu
[21:04] <KB3VGW> https://hifiduino.wordpress.com/2014/11/13/raspberry-pi-b-digital-audio/
[21:04] <KB3VGW> based on this page
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[21:05] <Raspberry> hi, i have a problem in raspbian, i cannot play videos on youtube site :(
[21:05] <KB3VGW> 10/a is now uu
[21:05] <DoctorD90> epiphany browser (add)
[21:06] <Raspberry> yes i use epiphany
[21:07] <mgottschlag> huh, that's weird, that means that the device did not respond properly on I2C anymore?
[21:08] <Raspberry> DoctorD90 i can't understand english well... what did mgottschlag sayd?
[21:08] <mgottschlag> Raspberry: sorry, I meant KB3VGW
[21:08] <Raspberry> ok
[21:08] <DoctorD90> Raspberry: it wasnt for you
[21:09] <Raspberry> however, i played 2 videos but i cannot play any other video on youtube
[21:11] <KB3VGW> ok it seems loading up the overlay changes it to uu
[21:11] <KB3VGW> but if I disable the overlay i get 1a
[21:12] <Raspberry> sometimes i display that i miss plugin... but why? i already played 2 videos but any other videos still not playing
[21:12] <mgottschlag> ah, then that maybe means that the regular driver occupies the device
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[21:12] <mgottschlag> so not necessarily bad news
[21:13] <Raspberry> so? what can i do? :(
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[21:14] <KB3VGW> so then I have to load up the drivers and not the over lay
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[21:15] <KB3VGW> as I load up the overlay and it still does not find the board
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[21:18] <KB3VGW> http://pastebin.ca/3152274
[21:20] <DoctorD90> shiftplusone: sorry mate, may you help raspberry with epiphany youtubr issue?
[21:21] <shiftplusone> Nope
[21:21] <shiftplusone> (Not because I wouldn't, I just can't)
[21:21] <KB3VGW> [ 5.446507] wm8731 1-001a: Assuming static MCLK
[21:21] <KB3VGW> that shows its finding the device
[21:22] <DoctorD90> i have same issue, but i cant how to fix it
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[21:26] <KB3VGW> mgottschlag, ok I dont know at this point I have it wired to i2s
[21:27] <KB3VGW> but loading up the overlay it goes from 1a to uu
[21:27] <KB3VGW> and the device is not found
[21:27] <mgottschlag> yeah, what does dmesg say?
[21:29] <KB3VGW> with just loading the ko nothign
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[21:29] <KB3VGW> I loaded up the kernel modules in /etc/modules and booted and nothing comes up
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[21:30] <KB3VGW> and I posted the pastebin of the output with the overlay
[21:30] <KB3VGW> http://pastebin.ca/3152274
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[21:34] <mgottschlag> so that still looks the same? no idea then
[21:36] <KB3VGW> ok looking at the dts file the reg is 1a
[21:37] <KB3VGW> http://pastebin.ca/3152281 thats the raspi-proto-overlay.dts
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[21:38] <KB3VGW> reg = <0x1a>;
[21:38] <KB3VGW> is that wron
[21:38] <KB3VGW> as its showing up as 10/a 1a
[21:39] <KB3VGW> with i2cdetect
[21:39] <mgottschlag> no idea
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[21:39] <mgottschlag> I don't know what that means, but looks as if it could be right :)
[21:40] <KB3VGW> ok
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[21:44] <KB3VGW> [ 5.868293] wm8731 1-001a: Assuming static MCLK
[21:44] <KB3VGW> [ 5.875861] wm8731 1-001a: Failed to issue reset: -5
[21:44] <KB3VGW> [ 5.882949] wm8731 1-001a: ASoC: failed to probe component -5
[21:44] <KB3VGW> grrr
[21:45] <KB3VGW> this should be workign at this point
[21:45] <KB3VGW> unless I have to add the ptg
[21:46] <KB3VGW> resister its it a dtg ot utg
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[21:52] <IT_Sean> how, precisely, is that a "hand crafted" IRC client? Did the author use a magnatized needle and a very steaady hand to write the 1s and 0s to a bare harddrive platter before compiling?
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[21:54] <SpeedEvil> I wrote one in awk once
[21:54] <IT_Sean> I wrote one once too. But it was crap.
[21:54] <SpeedEvil> using named pipes, and a bash script to inject 1/s pulses as a timer
[21:54] <IT_Sean> lol
[21:55] <SpeedEvil> Also used it as a mud client
[21:55] <IT_Sean> I eventually ripped mine apart and ducttaped it back together as a simple IRC bot. ...which was also crap.
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[21:58] <niston> o/
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[22:01] <Flerb> I want to have my Pi accessible on the LAN without using its IP address, but I really don't want to open up mopidy (which has v. weak security) to the wide internet.
[22:01] <Flerb> What can i do
[22:02] <traeak> firewall on router
[22:03] <IT_Sean> ^ that
[22:03] <KB3VGW> ok thnaks for the help mgottschlag
[22:03] <KB3VGW> at this point I am stumped
[22:04] <Flerb> So I'd have DDNS set up and only allow access to those ports on the router locally?
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[22:04] <KB3VGW> woundering if the header might not have all the pins soldered
[22:04] <KB3VGW> I will have to take it to lab
[22:04] <traeak> you have a more secure system inside that you can ssh to directly?
[22:05] <Flerb> Sorry, what? I don't quite understand what I'm doing here
[22:06] <Flerb> So as it stands with no firewall on my router nothing inside the network is directly accessible from the outside, so I can't SSH to my Pi from outside?
[22:06] <traeak> I want to have my Pi accessible on the LAN without using its IP address,
[22:08] <Flerb> So what I'd want to do is set up port forwarding on the router, then set the router to only accept connections from inside the network, then use DDNS to access the router, hence the Pi?
[22:08] <traeak> you mean internally? i know with tomato, openwrt, etc as long as the machine uses dhcp to get an address its name gets registered with your router and you can access it via name as long as it has acertificate
[22:08] <Flerb> Yeah.
[22:08] <Flerb> Oh OK, didn't know I could do that
[22:08] <traeak> that's how i get to my rpi2
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[22:08] <traeak> i only run those custom firmwares on my router so i dn't know what "normal" routers do
[22:10] <Flerb> traeak: ah ok
[22:10] <Flerb> Not sure i can access by name only
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[22:11] <Flerb> I have this list of clients
[22:11] <Flerb> http://puu.sh/jZXjb/543914b786.png
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[22:16] <Flerb> but can't seem to get to them by hostname
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[22:16] <at0m> Flerb: get an account on afraid.org. get a subdomain there. get the crontab wget script onto your rpi. in your router, only port-forward the ssh port. set ssh to only allow pubkey auth. ssh portforward what ports you need to your remote client.
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[22:16] <Flerb> at0m: would I even have to port forward anything?
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[22:16] <at0m> Flerb: on your router, at least the pi's ssh port
[22:17] <Flerb> wait no, I'd have to have it set up to port forward to the server locally but block it from external ips
[22:17] <at0m> then on the pi whatever else you need
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[22:18] <at0m> say, you could use ssh to forward mopidy control and stream ports. or samba shares, or router's config page, etc
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[22:18] <Flerb> at0m: I am using mopidy which hasn't really any auth
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[22:19] <at0m> Flerb: i use mpd, i guess they're alike. i use ssh to forward the control port, but the stream port is forwarded by the router. idk for people listening to my music. some friends do eh.
[22:19] <at0m> *do listen
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[22:24] <Flerb> at0m: sorry, didn't mean to leave. so raspberrypi.local, why might that not work?
[22:24] <Flerb> sorry
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[22:24] <Flerb> my connection is playing up here
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[22:26] <at0m> Flerb: cos rpi.local cannot be resolved from the internet.
[22:27] <Flerb> at0m: so not on my LAN?
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[22:27] <at0m> on the lan that'd work
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[22:28] <KB3VGW> ok calling it a day everything else is working in our install nos
[22:28] <KB3VGW> nos/now
[22:29] <KB3VGW> just have to get audio tested and working
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[22:30] <Flerb> at0m: it doesn't.
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[22:30] <Flerb> I'm not getting ping responses to it
[22:30] <Flerb> I changed it to local.local just to make it easier to remember
[22:31] <Flerb> still doesn't work
[22:31] <at0m> ? you can't remember the hostname of a pi?
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[22:31] <Flerb> at0m: doesn't make any actual difference though, right
[22:32] <at0m> or an ip? what LAN are you on eh
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[22:33] <Flerb> at0m: it's definitely connected to my LAN, and definitely has the hostname 'local' but pinging local.local doesn't work for whatever reason
[22:33] <Flerb> I can access it via it's IP
[22:33] <Flerb> http://puu.sh/jZYID/6b842e23e5.png
[22:33] <Flerb> *its
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[22:33] <Berg> :)
[22:33] <Berg> hello world
[22:34] <ctrlshftn> Flerb: are you accessing it from the net?
[22:34] <Flerb> ctrlshftn: no, just a local computer
[22:34] <Flerb> on the same LAN
[22:34] <ctrlshftn> hmmm
[22:34] <at0m> Flerb: tbh i give my lan machines static IP's, and insert the ip's and a hostname in their hosts file
[22:35] <at0m> also on Windows it's in some */etc/hosts file iirc
[22:35] <Flerb> at0m: right
[22:35] <Flerb> I don't quite get why this doesn't work though, it should allow me to access it through local.local from anywhere on my lan
[22:35] <Berg> ifconfig
[22:35] <Flerb> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Y32rzWuv/
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[22:37] <Berg> 192.168.1.117
[22:37] <Berg> :)
[22:37] <at0m> grep 192 /etc/hosts | wc -l returns ~30. and if not for tabcompletion of hostnames, i could do w their IP's.
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[22:38] <Flerb> hm?
[22:38] <Flerb> Berg: what?
[22:38] <at0m> i think it's mdns that uses zeroconf/avahi. machines will broadcast their hostname and others would pick that up
[22:38] <Flerb> at0m: yeah
[22:39] <Berg> if that ip is you pi use that to connect
[22:40] <Flerb> Berg: but I want to be able to use the hostname
[22:40] <Flerb> locally
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[22:40] <Berg> ha ok
[22:40] <Flerb> it's so much easier to tell people a hostname to go on
[22:40] <Berg> so what host name did you give your pi?
[22:40] <Flerb> Berg: local
[22:41] <Flerb> so it should be at local.local
[22:42] <Flerb> now it works
[22:42] <Flerb> installed itunes
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[22:42] <Berg> so it works your all fine
[22:43] <Flerb> Berg: can't resolve on my android phone
[22:43] <Flerb> not sure I can do much
[22:43] <Flerb> Bonjour is the only implementation IIRC
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[22:45] <Flerb> I'mma have to do the thing where I port forward
[22:45] <Flerb> and firewall it so I can only access it locally
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[22:50] <at0m> Flerb: if you're behind a router, all inbound is 'firewalled' unless you forward ports or put an ip in DMZ
[22:50] <at0m> so no need to firewall anything, by default.
[22:54] <traeak> flerb: can you ping them by name?
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[22:55] <traeak> ping by name, ping by ip...etc anyways
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[22:55] <at0m> by ip, yes, not by name
[22:56] <at0m> he'd need a local dns server set in his dhcpd
[22:56] <traeak> when i do dhcp my router ends up in the resolv.conf
[22:57] <at0m> traeak: yes, and the DNS ip's set in the router. could add another ip there for local DNS
[22:57] <traeak> i configure my router to uniformly handle all the name resolution crap
[22:57] <traeak> one thing that got me mad recently...might be dhcp's fault, or osmethig else in the kernel. static leases based on MAC broke on me
[22:58] <at0m> i got static DNS set, and router static leases on MAC confirming those/as backup
[22:58] <at0m> err *static ip
[22:58] <traeak> my chromebooks had no problem, android okay but thelinux box refuses to get an IP address and just bails
[22:59] <at0m> traeak: /etc/network/interfaces, Network-Manager or wicd on the linux box?
[22:59] <traeak> then again dhclient also busted so i can't say and my "hack" solution was to just kill the static lease and use the dhcp assigned ip in the ip forwarding
[22:59] <traeak> the dynamic lease is pretty stable on what ips it issues
[23:00] <traeak> at0m: wicd
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[23:00] <traeak> its wireless which always seems to complicate things
[23:01] <at0m> wicd on laptop, too. i tried setting same ip for wlan0 and eth0 (cos both don't come up at the same time) but that didn't go too well
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[23:02] <at0m> so i shifted all the wifi ip's 100 up
[23:02] <traeak> i'm not super pleased with those tools on linux
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[23:23] <Flerb> Wait, could I make a domain just resolve to a local IP if I wanted it to?
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[23:24] <Flerb> So if I own the domain I could set it to point at a 192.168.x.x IP and it'd just go wherever that is for whoever goes on it?
[23:24] <teclo-> uhhh yes
[23:25] <teclo-> there are actually services for that
[23:25] <teclo-> you'll have a fqdn that will point to some IP
[23:26] <teclo-> there's dyndns but they switched from free to expensive
[23:26] <teclo-> there's still no-ip.com which is free
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[23:41] <Flerb> teclo-: so if I set up no-ip with my router, and port forward, firewalling the non-passworded http server to local addresses only, could I set it up such that, via no-ip I can access the raspberry pi on port 80, because my router's control panel is on port 80 of my router atm, but only internally, would setting 80 as the external service port to access
[23:41] <Flerb> another internal ip work?
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[23:45] <Berg> look at your router help files to set a ip to be forwarded to
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[23:54] <Solarbaby> AT&T provided me with a motorola router that labeled port forwards as pinholes. that took me a few minutes to figure out what a pinhole was.
[23:54] <Solarbaby> not the worst router I've ever used or anything either.
[23:55] <at0m> Flerb: isn't that what i explained in one line, when i started?
[23:57] <at0m> Solarbaby: lol pinholes. they had a meeting "dont use tech speech" and confused their whole userbase in doing so
[23:57] <at0m> idgaf about ISP routers. use your own and put it in DMZ. ftw.
[23:58] <Flerb> at0m: yeah
[23:58] <Flerb> looks like it
[23:58] <at0m> recently, new routers here have to be configured via ISP account page. huh!?
[23:59] <at0m> the horror, thinking i'd have to go to ISP site to set up /my/ security

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